[Senate Hearing 117-889, Part 1]
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                                                S. Hrg. 117-889, Pt. 1

               DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR 
                APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 
                AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM
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                                HEARINGS

                               BEFORE THE

                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

                                   ON

                                S. 2792

     TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 FOR MILITARY 
ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND FOR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION, 
TO PRESCRIBE MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTHS FOR SUCH FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR 
                             OTHER PURPOSES

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                                 PART 1

                       U.S. INDO-PACIFIC COMMAND

            U.S. SOUTHERN COMMAND AND U.S. NORTHERN COMMAND

         U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND AND U.S. CYBER COMMAND

         U.S. EUROPEAN COMMAND AND U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND

             U.S. STRATEGIC COMMAND AND U.S. SPACE COMMAND

              U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND AND U.S. AFRICA CAMMAND

                  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BUDGET POSTURE

                              ARMY POSTURE

                           AIR FORCE POSTURE

                              NAVY POSTURE

THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATIONON 
                    ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

                   JACK REED, Rhode Island, Chairman
                   
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire		JAMES M. INHOFE, Oklahoma
KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York		ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut		DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii			TOM COTTON, Arkansas
TIM KAINE, Virginia			MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine		JONI ERNST, Iowa
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts	        THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
GARY C. PETERS, Michigan		DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia		KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois		RICK SCOTT, Florida
JACKY ROSEN, Nevada			MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee
MARK KELLY, Arizona                  	JOSH HAWLEY, Missouri
                                     	TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama
                                 
 		Elizabeth L. King, Staff Director
  		John D. Wason, Minority Staff Director

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                            C O N T E N T S
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                             march 9, 2021

                                                                   Page

United States Special Indo-Pacific Command.......................     1

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................     1

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................     3

                           Witness Statements

Davidson, Admiral Philip S., USN Commander, United States Indo-
  Pacific
  Command........................................................     5

Questions for the Record.........................................    61

                             march 16, 2021

United States Southern Command and United States Northern
  Command........................................................    83

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................    83

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................    85

                           Witness Statements

Faller, Admiral Craig S., USN Commander, United States Southern      86
  Command.

VanHerck, General Glen D., USAF Commander, United States Northern    96
  Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................   147

                             march 25, 2021

United States Special Operations Command and United States Cyber    171
  Command.

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   171

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   173

                           Witness Statements

Maier, Christopher P., Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense For    174
  Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict.

Clarke, General Richard D., USA Commander, United States Special    180
  Operations Command.

Nakasone, General Paul M., USA Commander, United States Cyber       186
  Command; Director, National Security Agency; and Chief, Central 
  Security Service.

Questions for the Record.........................................   224

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                             april 13, 2021

                                                                   Page

United States European Command and United States Transportation     233
  Command.

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   233

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   235

                           Witness Statements

Wolters, General Tod D., USAF Commander, United States European     236
  Command/North Atlantic Treaty Organization Supreme Allied 
  Commander
  Europe.

Lyons, General Stephen R., USA Commander, United States             246
  Transportation Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................   288

                             april 20, 2021

United States Strategic Command and United States Space Command..   307

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   307

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   308

                           Witness Statements

Richard, Admiral Charles A., USN Commander, United States           309
  Strategic Command.

Dickinson, General James H., USA Commander, United States Space     323
  Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................   372

                             april 22, 2021

United States Central Command and United States Africa Command...   387

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   387

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   389

                           Witness Statements

McKenzie, General Kenneth F., Jr., USMC Commander, United States    390
  Central Command.

Townsend, General Stephen J., USA Commander, United States Africa   400

  Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................   438

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                             june 10, 2021

                                                                   Page
The Department of Defense Budget Posture.........................   447

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   447

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   449

                           Witness Statements

Austin, The Honorable Lloyd J., III, Secretary of Defense........   450

Milley, General Mark A., USA Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of        462
  Staff.

Questions for the Record.........................................   533

                             june 15, 2021

Army Posture.....................................................   549

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   549

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   551

                           Witness Statements

Wormuth, The Honorable Christine E., Secretary of the Army.......   551

McConville, General James P., USA Chief of Staff of the Army.....   553

Questions for the Record.........................................   590

Appendix--Army Fiscal Year 2022 Budget Overview..................   610

                             june 17, 2021

Air Force Posture................................................   623

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   623

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   624

                           Witness Statements

Roth, The Honorable John P., Acting Secretary of the Air Force...   626

Brown, General Charles Q., USAF Chief of Staff of the Air Force..   644

Raymond, General John W., USSF Chief of Space Operations.........   645

Questions for the Record.........................................   683

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                             june 22, 2021

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Navy Posture.....................................................   703

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   703

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   705

                           Witness Statements

Harker, The Honorable Thomas W., Acting Secretary of the Navy....   706

Gilday, Admiral Michael M., USN Chief of Naval Operations........   715

Berger, General David H., USMC Commandant of the Marine Corps....   727

Questions for the Record.........................................   783

                             june 24, 2021

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The Department of Energy and National Nuclear Security              811
  Administration on Atomic Energy Defense Activities.

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   811

Statement of Senator James M. Inhofe.............................   812

                           Witness Statements

Granholm, The Honorable Jennifer M., Secretary of Energy.........   813

Questions for the Record.........................................   848

Appendix--Special Report
  Meeting Medical and Research Needs for Isotopes Derived from      854
  Uranium-233.

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 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         TUESDAY, MARCH 9, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                   UNITED STATES INDO-PACIFIC COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Peters, Manchin, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Ernst, 
Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and 
Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order.
    This morning the Committee will receive testimony from 
Admiral Davidson, the Commander of the United States Indo-
Pacific Command. Admiral, I understand this is likely to be 
your last appearance before the Committee prior to your 
retirement, and I want to thank you and your family for your 
decades of service to the country. We also ask that you extend 
our thanks and gratitude to the men and women under your 
command who each day sacrifice and serve the Nation. Thank you 
very much, sir, for your distinguished service.
    Due to the coronavirus pandemic, you have not appeared 
before the Committee since February 2019. There have been many 
regional developments since that time, and we look forward to 
your updates.
    At his confirmation hearing, Secretary Austin accurately 
described China as the ``pacing threat'' for the Department of 
Defense (DOD). Under President Xi Jinping, China has moved away 
from greater integration with the liberal world order and 
instead created a style of authoritarian capitalism that it now 
seeks to export throughout the region and the world. 
Additionally, China seeks to co-opt into national institutions 
or create parallel organizations to supports its strategic 
interests.
    The challenges posed by China require a truly whole-of-
government approach, but the Department of Defense and Indo-
Pacific Command (INDOPACOM), in particular, play a key role in 
seeking to deter increasingly aggressive behavior by the 
Chinese military.
    China seeks to use its superior military power to suppress 
smaller countries' sovereignty claims in key regions. Nowhere 
is this more evident than in the South China Sea, which is why 
international freedom of navigation operations, including 
regular passage by United States warships through strategic 
waterways, are essential for maintaining internationally 
recognized transit routes and pushing back against China's 
excessive claims.
    Recognizing the challenges posed by China, on February 
10th, President Biden announced the establishment of a China 
task force to examine the Department's strategy, operational 
concepts, technology and force structure, posture, 
intelligence, United States alliances and partnerships, and 
other matters relating to China. Admiral Davidson, I look 
forward to hearing your thoughts on this task force and the 
wide range of issues it is considering.
    Deterrence is key to avoiding an unnecessary and costly 
armed conflict with China. Unfortunately, as has been widely 
recognized by national security leaders and scholars alike, the 
foundations of United States deterrence in the Indo-Pacific 
have steadily eroded over time. That is why this Committee led 
the way in the creation of the Pacific Defense Initiative, or 
PDI, in last year's National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). 
We created the PDI to better focus DOD resources on key 
military capabilities necessary to deter China, reassure United 
States allies and partners, and send a strong signal to the 
Chinese Communist Party that we are committed to defending 
United States interests in the Indo-Pacific. Maintaining 
momentum behind the PDI will be a key focus of this Committee 
as we begin work on this year's NDAA. Admiral Davidson, we look 
forward to hearing your assessment of the PDI, how it is being 
implemented, and what additional requirements you have 
identified for the upcoming fiscal year and beyond.
    At the same time, we must guard against treating the 
Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) and China as ten feet 
tall. As an emerging power, China faces a number of challenges 
that it must contend with, both domestically and 
internationally. Deterring aggressive military action should 
certainly be our objective, but we must also seek to exploit 
China's weaknesses in other areas, including by exposing its 
suppression of human rights at home and lack of alliances and 
partners abroad. The world is rightly alarmed by Chinese human 
rights abuses and threats to democratic movement.
    Earlier this year, the State Department appropriately 
labeled the wide-scale abuse of Uyghur and other predominantly 
Muslim ethnic minorities by Chinese security forces as a 
genocide. Additionally, Chinese anti-democratic crackdown in 
Hong Kong signals an increasing willingness by the Chinese 
Communist Party to impose its will through force. These 
actions, coupled with continued rhetoric and aggressive 
military exercises directed at Taiwan, should give us pause.
    While I expect to hear separately from the Commander of 
United States Forces Korea in a few weeks, it is important to 
note the near-term threat posed by North Korea to the region, 
and potentially the United States. Many observers believe Kim 
Jong Un may seek to test the Biden administration with 
provocative actions in the coming weeks or months. The 
challenge posed by North Korea can only be addressed through a 
unified strategy with our allies, and particularly with South 
Korea and Japan.
    We must also seek to coordinate, to the extent possible, 
with China, if possible, and that is something we should 
investigate. Admiral Davidson, I look forward to hearing your 
assessment of the security situation in the Korean Peninsula 
and your assessment of what more can be done to effect a change 
in North Korea's course.
    Perhaps most importantly, our network of regional allies 
and partners is critical to confronting the challenges posed by 
China and North Korea. The Biden administration is rightly 
focused on re-invigorating our alliances with Japan, South 
Korea, Australia, the Philippines, and Thailand. These 
alliances certainly are not without challenges but remain 
indispensable to our efforts to ensure a stable and open Indo-
Pacific region. At the same time, we must continue growing 
sustainable partnerships with India, Indonesia, Singapore, 
Vietnam, and others. These allies and partners are our 
comparative advantage in the region and will be critical to 
protecting and advancing our collective interests in the coming 
years.
    I would also like to take a moment to stress my concern 
about the recent military coup and ongoing violent security 
crackdown in Myanmar. President Biden has made clear that 
respect for human rights will be a centerpiece of United States 
foreign policy, and I strongly support efforts to achieve a 
return to democratic governance, peace, and rule of law in 
Myanmar as soon as possible.
    Finally, the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and climate 
change will continue to shape INDOPACOM's operations in the 
region and engagement with partners and allies for the 
foreseeable future. We are interested in hearing more about how 
each of these challenges is impacting INDOPACOM activities in 
the region today and how you are working to prepare the command 
to better prepare and address them in the future.
    Again, Admiral Davidson, thank you for your service, and we 
look forward to your testimony.
    Senator Wicker, please.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Davidson, 
Senator Inhofe has duties in Oklahoma this morning and wanted 
me to enter a statement on his behalf. He also wants me to 
thank you for your decades of service and leadership that you 
have provided for the Department of Defense, and also to 
observe that this may be your last appearance before the 
Committee. From my standpoint, I hate to see you go, and I 
think these will be big shoes to fill.
    This is Senator Inhofe's statement:
    The Senate Armed Services Committee's top priority over the 
last 3 years has been to ensure the effective implementation of 
the National Defense Strategy (NDS). To implement the NDS, 
Secretary Austin and Deputy Secretary Hicks said China is the 
pacing threat for the Department of Defense, and General Milley 
said the Pacific is the number one regional priority for the 
United States military. Competition with China is our top focus 
and has overwhelming bipartisan support.
    As Commander of INDOPACOM, you are on the front lines of 
military competition with China. Your job is to ensure that 
there never comes a day when the Chinese Communist Party 
leadership concludes it can achieve its goals through the use 
of military force.
    However, even with the progress our military has made over 
the past 4 years to rebuild readiness, the reality is that the 
conventional military balance of power in the Indo-Pacific is 
getting worse, not better. General McMaster told us last week 
that since the Cold War, China has undertaken the largest 
peacetime military buildup in history.
    At the same time, America grew more complacent. For 
example, under Obama, from 2010 to 2015, while Chinese military 
spending grew by 83 percent, we decreased our military spending 
by 25 percent. As China invested in military capabilities, many 
Americans naively assumed that China's entry into the World 
Trade Organization (WTO) and the global integration of its 
economy would somehow make the Chinese Communist Party more 
friendly and open to the West.
    The result now is America's military advantage and the 
credibility of our deterrent is eroding. That is why the 2021 
NDAA was the toughest bill on China ever, with several national 
security committees involved, and that is specifically why this 
Committee put the Pacific Deterrence Initiative, or PDI, into 
last year's NDAA, to stop aggression from the Chinese Communist 
Party.
    In Europe we have made a lot of progress on posture through 
the European Defense Initiative, or EDI, by investing over $20 
billion in the last 5 years. We need to apply a similar level 
of focus, effort, and resources to our posture in the Pacific 
through PDI. We know we need advanced capabilities like 
hypersonics and artificial intelligence (AI), but that is not 
enough. It is clear we need the right posture to ensure our 
forces can be in the right place, at the right time, with the 
right stuff. This is what PDI was designed to accomplish.
    In reading your assessment of what we need PDI to do, some 
other focus areas include integrated air and missile defense, 
hardened and dispersed bases, expanded training ranges, 
improved joint exercise, and increased security cooperation 
with the allies and partners. Admiral Davidson, we hope you 
will expand on this today and give us details of exactly what 
you need and where we must invest.
    It is a dangerous time in the world but especially in the 
Indo-Pacific. For example, at last week's hearing, General 
McMaster told us that ``Taiwan may represent the most dangerous 
flashpoint for war.'' That is a quote. Admiral Davidson, we 
must win this competition for the security of our Nation as 
well as our partners and allies.
    I look forward to hearing from you about strengthening 
deterrents and regaining the advantage in the Indo-Pacific. So 
thank you very much for your attendance and your leadership and 
your great service to the United States of America, and thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker.
    Admiral Davidson, you are recognized for your testimony.

STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL PHILIP S. DAVIDSON, USN, COMMANDER, UNITED 
                  STATES INDO-PACIFIC COMMAND

    Admiral Davidson. Chairman Reed, Senator Wicker, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to appear before you to discuss the Indo-Pacific 
region today.
    Today I am joined by Indo-Pacific Command's senior enlisted 
advisor, Command Sergeant Major Shane Shorter, a Special Forces 
warrior with decades of experience in the Indo-Pacific Theater, 
operating and training alongside our most critical allies and 
partners.
    I can report that Indo-Pacific Command is laser-focused on 
the Secretary of Defense's immediate five priorities, beginning 
with the initiatives centered on the health and well-being of 
our people. Indeed, investing in our most critical and 
resilient resource, our people, is a national security 
imperative.
    For the past 12 months, we have worked to support the 
protection and sustainment of our Joint Force readiness while 
mitigating the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic. Additionally, 
our team has worked extensively with local, state, and national 
leadership to help defeat the disease and minimize the impact 
on our ability to perform our missions. We also remain deeply 
focused on cultivating a safe environment for our DOD 
professionals to learn, to thrive, to execute their mission, 
and to fulfill their oath to the Constitution.
    In doing so, we must also work to eliminate sexual assault, 
sexual harassment, racism, and extremism, which have no place 
within our ranks. Such abhorrent behaviors are inconsistent 
with our values and the principles we are sworn to defend. Our 
greatest military strength is our people. Therefore, operating 
in an environment free of discrimination, free of hate or 
harassment, while accomplishing our mission, is paramount to 
our success. Indeed, it is paramount to ensuring we can 
accomplish our mission to meet the greatest challenges of the 
21st century.
    The Indo-Pacific is the most consequential region for 
America's future and remains the United States' priority 
theater. The region itself contains four of the five priority 
security challenges identified by the Department of Defense--
China, Russia, North Korea, as well as violent extremist 
organizations. The Indo-Pacific region also experiences 
frequent natural and man-made disasters--the negative impacts 
of climate change, rapid population growth, drugs and human 
trafficking, and, of course, disease and pandemics.
    That said, the region accounts for 60 percent of the 
world's current gross domestic product, and it contributes more 
than two-thirds to the present global economic growth. In 10 
years, the region will host two-thirds of the world's 
population and two-thirds of the global economy.
    Our nation's vision for a free and open Indo-Pacific serves 
as an important reminder to all nations that the United States 
remains committed to free, fair, and reciprocal trade, shared 
access to global markets, good governance, and human rights and 
civil liberties.
    Now, if you would, let me focus my remarks on the greatest 
long-term strategic threat to security in the 21st century, 
China. In stark contrast to our free and open vision, the 
Communist Party of China promotes a closed and an authoritarian 
system through internal oppression and external aggression. 
China's pernicious approach to the region includes a whole-of-
party effort to coerce, corrupt, and collapse governments, 
businesses, organizations, and the people of the Indo-Pacific.
    As China continues to increase the size of the People's 
Liberation Army and advance their own joint capabilities, the 
military balance in the Indo-Pacific is becoming more 
unfavorable for the United States and our allies. With this 
imbalance, we are accumulating risk that may embolden China to 
unilaterally change the status quo before our forces may be 
able to deliver an effective response.
    The greatest danger the United States and our allies face 
in the region is the erosion of conventional deterrents, vis-a-
vis the People's Republic of China. Absent a convincing 
deterrent, China will be emboldened to continue to take action 
to supplant the established rules-based international order and 
the values represented in our vision for a free and open Indo-
Pacific.
    Our deterrence posture in the Indo-Pacific must demonstrate 
the capability, the capacity, and the will to convince Beijing, 
unequivocally, the costs of achieving their objections by the 
use of military force are simply too high. Indeed, we must be 
doing everything possible to deter conflict. Our number one job 
is to keep the peace, but we absolutely must be prepared to 
fight and win should competition turn to conflict.
    I want to thank this Committee for your deep commitment to 
defending United States values and interests in the Indo-
Pacific through your efforts to establish the ground-breaking 
Pacific Deterrence Initiative, or PDI. PDI provides the 
foundation for establishing a forward-deployed, defense in-
depth posture that defends the U.S. Homeland and our interests 
abroad, deters aggression, assures our allies and partners, and 
provides the flexible response options should deterrence fail.
    So on behalf of the men and women of the United States 
Indo-Pacific Command, I thank you for your time today, for your 
continued support, and for your desire to improve the 
prosperity and security of the Indo-Pacific, indeed, the most 
critical region on the planet. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Davidson follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Admiral Philip S. Davidson
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you to 
discuss the Indo-Pacific Region. The Indo-Pacific is the most 
consequential region for America's future and remains the Department of 
Defense's priority theater. This region contains four of the five 
priority security challenges identified by the Department of Defense 
and includes frequent natural and man-made disasters, the negative 
impacts of climate change, rapid population growth, and of course, 
disease and pandemics.
    The Indo-Pacific accounts for 60 percent of the world's current 
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and contributes more than two-thirds to 
the present global economic growth. Trade and investment in this 
dynamic region are vital to the security and prosperity of the United 
States and reflective in more than $1.9 trillion in two-way trade with 
the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), serving as the 
number one destination for United States foreign direct investment 
(FDI). In 10 years, the region will host two-thirds of the world's 
population and two-thirds of the global economy.
    Our Nation's vision for peace and prosperity in a Free and Open 
Indo-Pacific continues to resonate in the region and serves as an 
important reminder to all nations that the United States remains 
committed to free and fair trade, shared access to global markets, good 
governance, and human rights and civil liberties. The region's economic 
prosperity and security are inextricably linked and part of the 
competitive landscape.
    The greatest danger for the United States in this competition is 
the erosion of conventional deterrence. A combat-credible, conventional 
deterrent posture is necessary to prevent conflict, protect U.S. 
interests, and to assure our allies and partners. Absent a convincing 
deterrent, the People's Republic of China (PRC) will be emboldened to 
take action to undermine the rules-based international order and the 
values represented in our vision for a Free and Open Indo-Pacific. The 
combination of the PRC's military modernization program and willingness 
to intimidate its neighbors through the use, or threatened use of 
force, undermines peace, security, and prosperity in the region.
    United States Indo-Pacific Command's approach for addressing Great 
Power Competition centers on advancing a Free and Open Indo-Pacific by 
focusing on four critical areas:
      1.  Increasing Joint Force Lethality
      2.  Enhancing Design and Posture
      3.  Strengthening Allies and Partners
      4.  Modernizing our Exercises, Experimentation, and Innovation 
Programs
    In 2019, I reported to this Committee we had lost a quantitative 
advantage and our qualitative advantage was shrinking across several 
domains as the People's Liberation Army (PLA) fields higher quality 
systems.
    However, with this Committee's efforts to establish the Pacific 
Deterrence Initiative (PDI), along with resourcing our advanced 
undersea warfare capabilities and 5th generation fighters, I am 
optimistic you have created the opportunity to Regain the Advantage, 
but we must remain diligent. PDI provides the foundation for 
establishing a forward-deployed, defense-in-depth posture that defends 
our interests abroad, deters aggression, assures allies and partners, 
and provides flexible response options should deterrence fail. PDI also 
provides the requisite budget transparency and oversight to ensure 
resources are prioritized appropriately. Thank you for your continued 
support.
    On top of PDI support, investing in our most critical and resilient 
resource--our people--is a national security imperative. USINDOPACOM is 
staunchly committed to promoting the health and well-being of our 
teammates. In addition to providing necessary warfighting tools, we 
remain deeply focused on cultivating a safe environment for our DOD 
professionals to thrive, execute their mission, and fulfill their oath 
to the Constitution. We must take deliberate action to protect and 
sustain the force to meet the demands of strategic competition. Indeed, 
our Defense-wide priorities--dedicated to combating COVID-19, 
extremism, and sexual assault and sexual harassment within our force--
are at the foundation of our efforts to Regain the Advantage.
    For the past twelve months, protecting and sustaining joint force 
readiness began with our efforts to mitigate the effects of the COVID-
19 pandemic. We have worked extensively with the local, state, and 
national leadership to combat this contagion and successfully minimized 
the impact on USINDOPACOM's ability to perform its mission in the short 
term. However, COVID-19 has had a moderate effect on the readiness and 
budgets of our allies and partners. We will continue to support their 
efforts to maintain readiness and minimize any further negative impact.
    USINDOPACOM conducted a Headquarters-wide Stand-Down to address 
extremism within the ranks of our force in line with guidance from the 
Secretary of Defense (18 Feb). The program included virtual training 
modules featuring subject matter experts, presentations by our most 
senior leaders, and facilitated small-group discussions to build 
awareness and help prevent actions associated with extremist behaviors 
that go against the fundamental principles of our oath. The message 
provided a clear reminder that we are required to obey all lawful 
orders, support civil authorities to protect lives and property, and 
ensure public safety in accordance with the law. There is more to be 
done in our endeavor to eradicate extremism and the corrosive impact it 
has on our entire force. The senior leaders at USINDOPACOM will 
continue to host regular one-on-one listening sessions with volunteers 
from across the Headquarters to perpetuate this meaningful dialogue. We 
will capitalize on well-established, routine activities to broadly and 
frequently communicate/interact with our workforce to better educate 
our team about the scope of this problem and to develop sustainable 
solutions. Indeed, operating in an environment free of discrimination, 
hate, and harassment while accomplishing our mission is paramount to 
our success.
    USINDOPACOM is fully committed to the prevention of sexual assault 
and sexual harassment--something we absolutely must get right and 
cannot afford to fail. Over the past 3 years, we have improved our 
sexual assault and sexual harassment prevention efforts through a 
number of initiatives based on feedback received from several Command-
wide surveys. To fully back-up this leadership imperative, I committed 
Headquarters resources and established a fully dedicated, on-site 
Sexual Assault Prevention Response (SAPR) program and a newly created 
Equal Opportunity (EO)/Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) program. This 
novel approach is unique to USINDOPACOM and it transforms the 
traditional design--which relies on individual services to provide 
external SAPR and EO/EEO support to combatant command personnel--into a 
more immediate, more insightful, and more involved response mechanism. 
As a result of these initiatives, we have built trust, credibility, and 
awareness in these vital programs throughout the Headquarters. We 
continue to seek every opportunity to combat, prevent, and eliminate 
sexual assault, harassment, and violence to keep safe all those who 
keep America safe.
    For the future, combat credible deterrence depends on our ability 
to achieve four specific outcomes: 1) develop an agile and distributed 
Joint Force designed to deter and deny our adversaries of their 
objectives in the first and second island chains; 2) regain positional 
advantage by evolving our posture and balancing key capabilities across 
South Asia, Southeast Asia, and Oceania resulting in a more dynamic and 
distributed presence; 3) establish a network of compatible and 
interoperable allies and partners who are willing and able to protect 
their sovereignty from coercion; and 4) reassure our allies and 
partners of our commitment by revealing the capacity to conduct complex 
operations and concealing capabilities that provide a decisive 
advantage. A strategy of deterrence supported by a command climate that 
places the dignity and respect of each individual as a vital aspect in 
how we train, maintain, and sustain the force is an imperative for the 
Joint Force's ability to deploy and perform assigned missions.
                     increase joint force lethality
Integrated Air and Missile Defense
    For the past 3 years, I have repeatedly stated the most important 
action we can take to increase the joint force's lethality is to 
introduce a 360-degree, persistent, air and missile defense capability 
on Guam (Guam Defense System (GDS)). This system and the associated 
architecture must be robust enough to address the emerging threats, 
including hypersonics and the ability to integrate existing weapon 
control systems within this decade.
    The GDS could be established cost effectively with mature Programs 
of Records consisting of Aegis Baseline (B/L) 10, solid-state radar 
(SPY-6 or SPY-7 variant), MK-41 VLS, Aegis Ashore, and SM3/SM6. This 
system is critical for defending the Homeland, including our most 
important American operating location in the western Pacific. America's 
day begins in Guam, and it is not only a location we must fight-from, 
but one we must also fight-for given the threats we face in the near 
term and the foreseeable future.
    NDAA-2016 directed the Missile Defense Agency (MDA), Army, and Navy 
to evaluate Aegis Ashore (A.A.) capabilities and costs worldwide to 
provide the Homeland's adequate protection. The MDA report identified 
several Indo-Pacific locations where fixed and persistent integrated 
air and missile defense (IAMD) are desired. Of the four sites 
identified, one is a test site (Hawaii), two are facilities in Japan, 
and the fourth site is Guam.
    Any recommendations for additional studies, including a requirement 
for only mobile systems, disregard the immediacy and complexity of the 
threat (2026) and the absolute need to integrate fires across the 
region from a forward multi-domain command and control node west of the 
International Date Line (IDL).
    The GDS would provide a foundation for a joint solution to this 
warfighting problem. No individual service can include decentralized 
architecture, automated processes using standard fire control functions 
across the Joint Force, and a force-wide perspective in managing 
resources. In January 2021, the MDA was directed by the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense to reprogram up to $29 million in fiscal year 2021 
RDT&E funding to begin the architecture design for the GDS. The 
critical metric of success is the ability to shrink the decision-to-
execution cycle for U.S. Forces fighting inside--or close to--the 
enemy's traditional safe-havens, thus improving the joint force's 
survivability.
    The Army's Integrated Air and Missile Defense Battle Command System 
(IBCS) and the Air Force's Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS) are 
not yet fully developed and do not currently enable joint 
interdependencies or satisfy the requirement to integrate fires across 
domains, services, or weapon platforms.
    Funding provided by Congress in 2021 for Homeland Defense Radar-
Hawaii as a fixed sensor capability supports the best-programmed 
solution to enable a credible, in-depth, under layer defense for our 
forces in Hawaii. This perspective is consistent with independent 
assessments from the MDA and supported by U.S. Northern Command 
(NORTHCOM) and requires sustained funding throughout the FYDP.
    The persistent Tactical Multi-Mission Over-the-Horizon Radar 
(TACMOR), located in Palau will dramatically increase our air domain 
awareness by providing persistent, long-range, detect and track 
capability of air and surface targets in the western Pacific and 
increase our ability to ``shoot the archers.''
Long Range Precision Strike
    In addition to Homeland defense in Hawaii and Guam, USINDOPACOM 
requires highly survivable, precision-strike fires featuring increased 
quantities of ground-based missiles and improved air and long-range 
naval fires capable of ranges over 500 km. These fires must be 
supported by electronic warfare, space, cyber, and over-the-horizon 
radar capabilities. They must also be operationally decentralized and 
geographically distributed to provide a credible, offensive, and 
conventional deterrent to assure U.S. freedom of action.
    Our adversaries continue to field advanced Anti-Access Area Denial 
(A2AD) systems, aircraft, ships, space, and cyber capabilities that 
threaten the U.S. ability to project power into the region. Increasing 
joint force lethality means developing and fielding systems and 
capabilities to ensure U.S. freedom of action or access to vital 
waterways and airspace, while preserving our critical asymmetrical 
advantages to deter aggression and prevail in armed conflict should 
deterrence fail.
Joint Fires Network
    The advances being made in long-range, precision fires are 
significant and will require an integrated cross-service/cross-system 
network architecture to exploit the full spectrum of capability these 
programs provide the Joint Force. The desired end state is a combined/
joint-integrated environment where ubiquitous battle management and 
automated engagement decision-making using standard target, track-
quality, control functions, and a joint force approach for managing 
weapons resources can occur.
    A network of sensors that fuse information using actionable and 
distributed fire control data must support Integrated Air Missile 
Defense (IAMD) and long-range, precision-strike weapons systems. This 
Joint Fires Network enables any sensor from any platform (air, land, 
sea, space, and cyberspace) to provide targeting guidance to any 
weapon.
    USINDOPACOM requires a warfighting architecture that fuses the 
maritime, land, air, cyber, and space domains to enable timely and 
actionable delivery of our emerging weapons. This capability, coupled 
with the lethality of current and future munitions, underpins 
conventional deterrence and provides the Joint Force with the necessary 
distributed lethality to maintain combat credibility in a contested 
environment.
                    enhance force design and posture
    Our enhanced force design must enable the convergence of 
capabilities from multiple domains, and our posture must create the 
virtues of mass without the vulnerability of concentration. This 
scenario is accomplished by distributing a forward-deployed, joint 
force across the battlespace while balancing lethality and 
survivability. It requires a deterrent posture that possesses the 
sustainment and force protection to be resilient, survivable, and 
supportable.
    Persistent presence through forward-based and rotational joint 
forces is the most credible way to demonstrate our commitment and 
resolve to potential adversaries while simultaneously assuring allies 
and partners.
    A force posture and joint force laydown west of the IDL correctly 
positioned to defend in-depth while possessing the capabilities and 
authorities is needed to decisively respond to contingencies across the 
region. More distributed combat power increases survivability, reduces 
risk, and ensures our ability to Fight and Win.
    Infrastructure projects must enhance resilience and support multi-
domain, joint operations vice service-prioritized activities. U.S. 
ground formations must have long-range weapons in the western Pacific 
to include SM6 and Maritime Strike Tomahawk. Additionally, the Army and 
Marine Corps should employ High Mobility Artillery Rocket System 
(HIMARs) outfitted with Precision Strike Missiles (PSM) and Naval 
Strike Missiles (NSM) specifically for the Army and Marine Corps, 
respectively.
    The ability to deploy an integrated Joint Force capable of 
employing the full spectrum of capabilities across all domains remains 
the joint requirement. The repositioning of Marines from Okinawa, Japan 
is ongoing and must ensure a preponderance of combat power remains west 
of the IDL. Continuing the Defense Posture Realignment Initiative 
(DPRI), while understanding how USMC modernization will affect its 
foundations, should proceed without delaying execution based on the 
dynamic nature of the theater.
    Additionally, forward-based air and naval forces need to be able to 
disperse to expeditionary airfields and ports as part of a distributed 
force posture. This requires adequate command and control, munitions, 
and fuel distribution to create temporary windows of localized air and 
maritime superiority to enable maneuver, while amphibious and ground 
forces create and exploit temporal and geographic opportunities to 
impose costs.
    The critical investments necessary to provide adequate dispersion 
to preserve deterrence options include:
      United States Territories. Key strategic locations to 
project power, deter adversaries, and respond to crises across the 
Indo-Pacific. Investments are focused on divert and dispersal locations 
as part of a distributed joint force laydown and new training 
facilities.
      Oceania and the Pacific Island Countries (PIC). 
Investments focused on alternative facilities for training and 
dispersion opportunities that increase airpower capacity.
      Southeast Asia. Investments focused on alternative 
facilities to support modernized and dispersed power projection 
airfields, sustain forward forces, and enhance logistics capability 
with prepositioned stores and infrastructure.
    These specific requirements are outlined in USINDOPACOM's 
Independent Assessment directed by the Committee report accompanying 
Section 1251 of NDAA-21.
              strengthening allies and enhancing partners
    Strong alliances and partnerships represent the most essential 
components of U.S. national power beyond our Nation's economic and 
military strength. One of the significant advantages these 
relationships provide is a common foundation based on the core 
principles of a Free and Open Indo-Pacific. This foundation fosters 
long-term mutual trust, understanding, respect, interoperability, 
information sharing, and a common view of the regional security 
landscape.
    Our relationships are the building blocks for establishing an 
enhanced, networked security architecture that promotes 
interoperability and coordination from the strategic to tactical 
levels. The critical investments necessary to strengthen our alliances 
and enhance our partnerships to enable this increased interoperability 
include:
      Mission Partner Environment (MPE). In fiscal year 2021, 
PDI authorized $50M as the critical investment for providing resilient 
and redundant joint/multinational command and control that delivers the 
same functionality of a data center and hosts multiple, unique mission 
sets. MPE provides universal battle management and automated decision-
making by accessing a multi-domain sensor network. This environment 
uses cloud-based technologies, integrated systems, and secure access 
controls to command, control, and communications (C3).
      Fusion Centers. In fiscal year 2021, PDI authorized $2M 
for partial funding of the fusion centers needed to improve information 
sharing and build trust. We are amplifying these resources to one of 
three fusion centers identified by USINDOPACOM as part of Regain the 
Advantage. Each of these fusion centers is a crucial enabler for 
strengthening our alliances, enhancing partnerships, and utilize MPE 
for contextual analytics and computing model assessments to extrapolate 
conclusions and identify patterns of life associated with transnational 
threats and other pernicious behavior.
      -  Southeast Asia (Counter Terrorism Information Facility, CTIF), 
hosted by Singapore, represents USINDOPACOM's first participation in an 
operational partnership in Southeast Asia to identify trends and 
anomalies that could lead to a terrorist event or other transnational 
threat. The multi-lateral facility has commenced operations and has 
brought together like-minded countries to share information and provide 
early warning, monitoring and analysis capabilities in a centralized 
and coordinated manner.
      -  Indo-Pacific Maritime Coordination. Navy is exploring 
additional concepts with allies and key partners to increase 
situational awareness in the maritime domain across the Indo-Pacific 
and Indian Oceans.
      -  Oceania Fusion Center represents an initiative to provide 
Pacific Island nations, including the Freely Associated States--the 
Republic of Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM), and the 
Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI)--a means to improve common 
understanding of challenges such as climate change; illegal, 
unregulated, and unreported (IUU) fishing; transnational crime; and 
other specific Oceania-based challenges.
    For almost 36 months, I have spent much of my time focused on 
strengthening our current alliances and enhancing our emerging 
partnerships across the region. This effort begins with the five 
bilateral treaty alliances where we have mutual defense 
responsibilities:
      Japan. The United States-Japan Alliance is the 
cornerstone of peace and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific Region. The 
alliance reassures the region by setting the example through our 
operations and collaborative efforts to build partnership capacity with 
other like-minded partners. As the most recent National Defense Program 
Guidelines (NDPG) indicate, Japan has embarked on expanding its 
military capabilities to better align United States and Japanese 
defense strategies by liberalizing rules for military equipment export, 
expanding the scope of possible Self Defense Force (SDF) missions to 
facilitate integration and interoperability, and advancing the DPRI. 
Increased defense spending purchasing some of our most advanced systems 
is a clear indication Japan seeks to improve its national defense 
posture and the United States-Japan alliance.
      Republic of Korea (ROK). The United States and ROK 
alliance remains the linchpin in maintaining a stable, security 
environment and ready to address the North Korean regime's threats. The 
ROK's purchase of advanced platforms and munitions, such as F-35A, 
Global Hawk, P-8A, and upgraded PAC-3 missiles improves our combined 
interoperability and enhances ROK's defense posture. Seoul has made 
progress toward transitioning wartime operational control (OPCON) to a 
Future-Combined Forces Command led by a ROK Commander. The United 
States and ROK are currently addressing a lapse in the Special Measures 
Agreement (SMA), which we expect to be finalized in the near term. The 
lack of an SMA negatively impacts USFK's ability to ``fight tonight.''
      Australia. Australia is a critical ally, partner, and 
leader contributing to international efforts promoting a Free and Open 
Indo-Pacific. Australia actively supports U.N. Security Council 
Resolution (UNSCR) enforcement operations to curb illicit North Korean 
activity while making substantial efforts to improve relations with 
India and increase engagement to build open and resilient societies in 
ASEAN. Under its ``Pacific Step-Up'' policy, Australia is enhancing its 
assistance and infrastructure investments in Fiji, Papua New Guinea, 
and the Solomon Islands. They also assist the United States in 
maintaining a strong force posture, hosting the seventh Marine 
Rotational Force-Darwin (MRF-D) deployment and Enhanced Air 
Cooperation, where we reached the agreed upon deployment number in 2019 
(2500) and a reduced target in 2020 (1290) due to COVID-19. This has 
provided the U.S. Marine Corps opportunities to train and integrate 
while displaying significant combat power west of the IDL. In July 
2020, Canberra released two major national security documents that 
complement U.S. national security objectives: the 2020 Defence 
Strategic Update and the 2020 Force Structure Plan. Along with the 
subsequent release of the classified Defence Planning Guidance, these 
documents confirm our strategic alignment, highlight the challenges in 
competition, and place greater emphasis on deterrence across the Indo-
Pacific.
      The Philippines. The Republic of the Philippines remains 
a strategic treaty ally and partner. The Government of the Philippines' 
decision to temporarily suspend the termination of the Visiting Forces 
Agreement (VFA) presents opportunities to address mutual concerns and 
reinvigorate joint and interoperability training opportunities as we 
seek full reversal of the VFA termination process, which would 
facilitate deeper military cooperation and integration. The AFP is 
committed to investing in high-quality U.S. defense equipment as they 
modernize their force and conclude a General Security of Military 
Information Agreement (GSOMIA). The Philippines are partnered with the 
Guam and Hawaii National Guards in the State Partnership Program.
      Thailand. The United States-Thai alliance has the 
opportunity to expand in substantial ways since a democratically 
elected government took seat in 2019, as outlined in the United States-
Thai co-signed ``Joint Vision 2020.'' To modernize its force, Thailand 
has purchased more than $2.5 billion in United States foreign military 
sales with over 200 active foreign military sales cases. Additionally, 
the reinstatement of international military education and training 
funding (IMET) encourages increased mil-mil engagements as our 
militaries train and exercise side-by-side. Our exercise program 
provides an opportunity to explore new access agreements as part of our 
bilateral and multilateral exercises such as COBRA GOLD, HANUMAN 
GUARDIAN, COPE TIGER, and Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training 
(CARAT). Even during COVID-19, U.S. Army Pacific (USARPAC) conducted 
Exercise COBRA GOLD 2020 supporting readiness training for 
approximately 6,560 U.S. troops along with 26 participating nations. 
Thailand is also partnered with the Washington State National Guard in 
the State Partnership Program.
    Enhancing multilateralism is a critical aspect of USINDOPACOM's 
engagement in the region. We operate with Australia and Japan 
extensively during multilateral exercises and are working diligently to 
expand this collaboration to other like-minded nations to increase 
their level of interoperability and cooperation.
    We also continue to advance strategic partnerships with India and 
Singapore:
      India. The current state of the United States-India 
relations presents a historic opportunity to deepen ties and solidify 
what I consider the ``defining partnership of the 21st century.''We 
concluded several agreements, including the Communications 
Compatibility and Security Agreement (COMCASA) in 2018, which has 
greatly enhanced information sharing and interoperability; the 
Industrial Security Annex (ISA), signed in December 2019 that allows 
for the transfer of technologies in support of defense production; the 
Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement (BECA) to share unclassified 
geospatial information; and the agreement on Navy-to-Navy Information 
Sharing in October 2020. The United States and Indian navies are now 
securely sharing information, and India has substantially increased its 
acquisition of United States defense equipment. Defense sales are at an 
all-time high with India operating United States-sourced platforms such 
as P-8s, C-130Js, C-17s, AH-64s, CH-47s, Precision Guided-Excalibur 
Munitions, and M777 howitzers. In February, India agreed to acquire 
Apache and MH-60R multi-mission helicopters worth $3.1 billion and is 
considering other United States systems. The United States strongly 
supports India's establishment of an information fusion center focusing 
on maritime domain awareness, which will improve maritime security in 
the Indian Ocean Region and Bay of Bengal. USINDOPACOM defines the 
security relationship with India as a strategic imperative. We expect 
substantial progress on interoperability and information sharing, 
service-level and joint military-to-military cooperation and exercises 
like TIGER TRIUMPH and MALABAR, and an increase in quadrilateral 
collaboration between India, Australia, Japan, and the United States as 
the relationship continues to mature.
      Singapore. Military to military relations with Singapore 
are excellent, with an average of 300 Distinguished Visitor engagements 
and 40 operations, activities, and investments (OAIs) taking place 
annually. Over the last 20 years, no other Southeast Asian country has 
done more to facilitate United States presence in the region. In 
December 2019, the United States and Singapore announced the 
establishment of a permanent Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) 
fighter detachment on Guam and foreign military sales exceeding $7 
billion, including Singapore's request to purchase F-35s. Singapore and 
the United States worked together multilaterally with five other ASEAN 
nations, Australia and New Zealand, to establish a fusion center 
focused on countering terrorism. In 2019, the United States and 
Singapore reinforced their commitment to this partnership when they 
renewed the Memorandum of Understanding regarding Facilities' Use in 
Singapore. The combination of continued support for a United States 
presence in Southeast Asia, a deep and broad defense relationship based 
on shared principles, and a strong desire for continued defense 
diplomacy enables the United States and Singapore to focus on shared 
regional challenges.
    Other Indo-Pacific Nations (Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom, 
France). USINDOPACOM is working with the FVEY-Plus (United Kingdom, 
Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and France) to explore how we can build 
on bilateral and multilateral relationships to align our various 
efforts to assist Oceania in addressing the transnational challenges 
that present a significant threat to their way of life.
      Canada. Canadian policy in the Indo-Pacific focuses on 
expanding cooperation and partnership building throughout the region. 
Through consistent engagement with its regional partners and allies, 
Canada is advancing relationships in the region, especially with the 
other FVEY-Plus construct participants to assist in Oceania and 
Vietnam. Ongoing support and troop contributions to the Republic of 
Korea and North Korea-focused UNSCR enforcement operations remain 
priorities for Ottawa.
      New Zealand (N.Z.). New Zealand remains a steadfast and 
key partner that continues to increase investment, foreign assistance, 
and infrastructure support in the South Pacific. Wellington's ``Pacific 
Reset'' policy highlights a reinvigorated focus in the Southwest 
Pacific. These efforts provide valuable leadership and expertise to the 
region. New Zealand also provides ongoing support to North Korea-
focused UNSC Reinforcement operations in the region. We are committed 
to deepening our partnership to advance the vision for a Free and Open 
Indo-Pacific.
      United Kingdom (U.K.). The U.K. remains committed to the 
region as a champion of the Free and Open Indo-Pacific. They continue 
to sustain a healthy defense posture in the region, having renewed the 
Brunei Garrison Agreement to maintain around 700troops in the Sultanate 
(at H.M. Sultan's expense) since September 2019 and establishing a 
Royal Navy presence with HMS Enterprise. The U.K. also continues to be 
a primary contributor of personnel and assets for North Korea-focused 
UNSC Reinforcement operations. This year, the U.K. will deploy a 
Carrier Strike Task Group spearheaded by its new aircraft carrier, HMS 
Queen Elizabeth, with United States Marine Corps F-35s embarked, 
joining an international group of ships that includes the Five Eyes 
Defense Arrangement, Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Republic of Korea, 
and Indonesia.
      France. France has increased operational activities 
across the Indo-Pacific under their own Indo-Pacific strategy 
emphasizing rule of law and freedom of movement. It is a pivotal 
contributor to FVEY-Plus multilateral efforts on IUU fishing; drug and 
human trafficking; and community resilience related to natural 
disasters and climate change. France maintains an active role in 
regional security, protecting fisheries, and countering transnational 
crimes, including narcotics destined for Australia and New Zealand. 
Additionally, France exercises and operates in the South China Sea and 
supports North Korea-focused UNSCR enforcement activities.
      Germany. In 2020 Germany adopted new guidelines for 
engagement in the Indo-Pacific region. These guidelines include a 
willingness to support the international rules-based order. In the most 
visible demonstration of this commitment, the German Ministry of 
Defense announced the 2021 to 2022 deployment of a German frigate to 
the region. This frigate will support UNSCR sanction enforcement 
activities against North Korea and cooperate with the United States 
Navy.
      Oceania. Oceania is critical to ensuring a Free and Open 
Indo-Pacific, as it contains strategic sea lines of communication 
linking us with our allies and partners in the Oceania region and Asia. 
We prioritized key leader engagements during the pandemic to offer 
assistance to Pacific Island Countries (PICs) and ensure coordination 
on pressing challenges including IUU fishing; drug and human 
trafficking; addressing the effects of climate change; natural 
disasters; and a range of health issues that plague these nations. We 
have also used security cooperation programs, such as Woman, Peace, and 
Security (WPS) assistance, to build resilience across the region. In 
contrast, the PRC is actively engaged in coercive economic and 
diplomatic tactics in Oceania. These predatory activities undermine 
good governance and promote corruption. While we continue to strengthen 
our bilateral relationships with countries that have militaries (Fiji, 
Tonga, and Papua New Guinea), our engagement begins with the Freely 
Associated States (FAS)--the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM), the 
Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI), and the Republic of Palau 
(heretofore Palau), with which the United States has signed Compacts of 
Free Association (COFA). We are also working on an additional 
multilateral effort with like-minded nations (FVEY, France, and Japan) 
to synchronize and improve the alignment of our security cooperation 
efforts across Oceania.
      Compacts of Free Association. The FAS are small island 
countries located along our strategic lines of communication and are 
critically important to the U.S. ability to project power, sustain 
forward presence, conduct commercial trade, defend the Homeland, and 
ensure access. The 2019 meeting between the United States President and 
the Presidents of Palau, Marshall Islands, and the Federated States of 
Micronesia, and the subsequent visits by several cabinet members and 
senior United States officials to these countries, demonstrate the 
importance our Government places on these relationships and our 
commitment to greater cooperation to ensure a Free and Open Indo-
Pacific.
      Papua New Guinea (PNG). USINDOPACOM's engagement with PNG 
improves regional posture and demonstrates the U.S. commitment to the 
region. PNG plans to grow its defense force from 3,600 troops to an end 
strength of 10,000 by 2030. The USINDOPACOM team and State Partnership 
Program (SPP) partner (Wisconsin National Guard) will help the PNGDF 
achieve this goal by identifying force development, enlisted training, 
and education opportunities.
      Fiji. We are expanding the defense relationship with Fiji 
through exercises, ship visits, defense dialogues, and the ongoing 
discussions with the Nevada National Guard to formalize a State 
Partnership Program relationship. United States and Fijian forces are 
collaborating with Australia and New Zealand to develop the Black Rock 
Integrated Peacekeeping Center to help advance the capabilities of 
Fiji's armed forces. United States support to Fiji includes helping to 
build a more capable, resilient force by supporting the State 
Department's provision of Foreign Military Financing (FMF) for small 
patrol boats and dive equipment. Additionally, DOD established two 
seats each at West Point and Annapolis for Fijian candidates, expanded 
the Defense Attache Office and the Office of Defense Coordination in 
Suva, and added a Ministry of Defense Advisor. In 2019, USINDOPACOM 
hosted a defense dialogue with Fiji in Suva to solidify our defense 
relationships and provide guidance for security cooperation efforts 
over the next 5 years. In 2020, Fiji co-hosted the USINDOPACOM Chief of 
Defense (CHOD) Conference, held virtually, and will co-host the 2021 
CHOD Conference in Suva.
      Tonga. In 2019, USINDOPACOM hosted the first formal 
Trilateral Defense Talks between the United States, Tonga, and Fiji. 
Both Tonga and Fiji expressed a clear desire for increased United 
States engagement tailored to their needs, scaled to their capacity, 
and coordinated with Australia and New Zealand. Tonga is partnered with 
the Nevada National Guard in the State Partnership Program.
      Southeast Asia. We must strengthen the region's ability 
to deny adversaries' attempts to dominate or disrupt the gateway 
between the Pacific and Indian Oceans. The DOD defines Southeast Asia 
as the ten Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) member 
states, plus Timor Leste. The ASEAN member states under Brunei's 
leadership in 2021 continue to seek ways to improve multilateral 
security engagements and advance stability in the Indo-Pacific. 
USINDOPACOM participates in ASEAN exercises, key leader engagements, 
and practical multilateral cooperation related to the spectrum of 
shared transnational challenges such as the ASEAN-United States 
Maritime Exercise conducted in 2019. USINDOPACOM also co-chairs, along 
with Thailand, the ASEAN Defense Ministers' Meeting-Plus Experts' 
Working Group on Maritime Security from 2020 through 2023. We continue 
to express our concern over the PRC's pressure on ASEAN members to 
conclude negotiations on the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea in 
a way that contradicts international law and accedes to Beijing's 
territorial and maritime claims, and pressures ASEAN member states to 
limit activities with third-country partners. We are working with the 
State Department on the United States-Mekong Partnership to address 
environmental degradation and the related concerns with water and food 
insecurity caused by upstream damming operations. Our engagement with 
Southeast Asia and with ASEAN strengthens relationships and conveys the 
United States' commitment to the region.
      Burma. The United States stands firmly with the people of 
Burma in their aspirations for democracy, peace, and respect for human 
rights. We are alarmed regarding the military's coup against the 
democratically elected government in Burma, and the detention of State 
Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi, President Win Myint, and other government 
officials, as well as political leaders, journalists, human rights 
activists, and members of civil society. Prior to the military coup, 
USINDOPACOM had minimal interaction with Burma's military due to a 
number of restrictions based on Burma's human rights record, and 
USINDOPACOM will continue to monitor the developing situation, and 
specifically how the Burma military responds to the peaceful protests.
      Indonesia. Indonesia's status as the globe's third-
largest democracy, the world's largest Muslim population, the fourth 
most populous country, and its significant economy all underscore its 
essential role in the regional security architecture. USINDOPACOM is 
committed to enhancing its partnership with Indonesia through robust 
exercise and training programs that take advantage of our shared 
interests and common platforms. We continue to support the Indonesian 
military's focus on external threats to national defense, particularly 
maritime domain awareness and security regarding Beijing's excessive 
maritime claims around Natuna Island. USINDOPACOM is well-positioned to 
support increased demand for enhanced military-to-military bilateral 
cooperation and emerging multilateral training opportunities in 2021. 
Indonesia is partnered with the Hawaii National Guard in the State 
Partnership Program.
      Laos. After decades of stagnation in the bilateral 
relationship following the Vietnam War, we have seen some signs of 
progress since the United States and Laos signed a Comprehensive 
Partnership. Engagements focus on unexploded ordnance clearance, POW/
MIA recovery, and military medicine. Laos actively supports the DPAA in 
the search for 286 missing United States servicemembers to conclude war 
legacy issues honorably, and aims to address unexploded ordnance issues 
by 2030. In October 2020, the United States Government delivered Laos' 
first FMF case for field ambulances, building trust and confidence in 
the relationship. To continue building trust, we will focus on English 
language training and work to expand security cooperation.
      Malaysia. Last year marked our 35th iteration of the 
Bilateral Training and Consultative Group discussions between 
USINDOPACOM and the Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF). This forum continues 
to serve as the bedrock for security cooperation between our two 
militaries. USINDOPACOM continues to execute essential exercise and 
training opportunities with Malaysia. We have a robust security 
cooperation relationship with over $850 million in ongoing U.S. foreign 
military sales cases. USINDOPACOM engagements in Malaysia focus on 
maritime security, counterterrorism, Humanitarian Assistance / Disaster 
Relief (HA/DR), peacekeeping, transnational crime and border 
protection, and educational exchanges such as the International 
Military Education and Training program (IMET). We support OSD and the 
Malaysian Ministry of Defense's effort to develop a Memorandum on 
Defense Cooperation and future opportunities to support the new 
administration's security priorities. Malaysia is partnered with the 
Washington State National Guard in the State Partnership Program.
      Cambodia. In early 2017, Cambodia suspended all military-
to-military exercises with the United States. However, USINDOPACOM 
continues to cooperate in: humanitarian mine clearance actions, medical 
research, and MIA personnel accounting engagements through the DPAA. 
During these limited engagements, the command reaffirms the importance 
of Cambodia strengthening its democratic institutions and maintaining 
an independent foreign policy. In September 2020, Cambodia razed a 
United States-built facility on Ream Naval Base that served as the 
headquarters for the National Committee on Maritime Security, 
reportedly in order to make way for a PRC naval base. The United States 
and other countries in the region are concerned about the expansion of 
PRC influence in Cambodia and its implication for regional security.
      Vietnam. USINDOPACOM's defense partnership with the 
Vietnamese military is among the most substantial aspects of our 
growing bilateral relationship. In 2019, USINDOPACOM and the Vietnam 
Ministry of National Defense (MND) agreed to renew our terms of 
reference; update our 2011 Memorandum of Understanding; and finalize 
negotiations for our GSOMIA. Our military-to-military engagements 
prioritize enhancing Vietnam's maritime capacity to include the 
delivery of 24 Metal Shark boats, the upcoming delivery of the Scan 
Eagle unmanned aerial system, and the imminent completion of the Region 
3 Coast Guard center. Vietnam sent a cadet to the Air Force Academy who 
will graduate in 2024 as the first-ever Vietnamese cadet to attend a 
Service Academy. Vietnam shares our concern with PRC actions in the 
South China Sea, and remains a vocal supporter of United States Freedom 
of Navigation operations. Vietnam is partnered with the Oregon National 
Guard in the State Partnership Program.
      Timor-Leste. While not a part of ASEAN, Timor-Leste 
remains strategically located as a bridge between Southeast Asia and 
the Pacific. The Government of Timor-Leste has formally requested 
United States co-development of Baucau Airfield, which will offer the 
opportunity to build partner capacity with Timor-Leste to support its 
nascent air component and maritime security capabilities. To date, 
funding for project scoping, approval, and global training and 
equipment has been allocated to support the completion of minor 
improvements. Timor-Leste was selected for the State Partnership 
Program and is assisted by the Rhode Island National Guard. The SPP 
will help Timor-Leste build capacity to address transnational threats 
and counterterrorism, as well as help them to provide maritime 
security, and deliver HA/DR.
      Northeast Asia. Northeast Asia continues to benefit from 
long-term economic growth, and this prosperity remains dependent upon 
free trade, free navigation, and open communication. At the same time, 
Northeast Asia is at a crossroads where historical and geopolitical 
forces weigh on mutual security cooperation. As the region becomes more 
stable, we will encourage Japan and South Korea to take a more 
significant role in the alliances related to their security and 
contribute to the broader security efforts across the Indo-Pacific 
region.
      Mongolia. Mongolia is a strong partner and contributor to 
United States regional and global policy objectives. Mongolia supports 
missions in Afghanistan and other regions of the world through United 
Nations Peace Keeping Operations (UNPKO), making Mongolia a model for 
emerging democratic countries that want to be more active globally. 
Ulaanbaatar's ``Third Neighbor Policy'' intends to balance Russian and 
PRC influence by developing relationships with the United States and 
other like-minded countries. In the past two decades, more than 50 
percent of Mongolia's senior leadership attended International Military 
Education and Training courses creating an influential cadre of United 
States educated officers. USINDOPACOM components and Mongolia held 
inaugural Land Forces Talks and Airman-to-Airman Talks, while also 
developing a five-year security cooperation plan. The United States is 
helping Mongolia improve its special operations forces, peacekeeping 
operations, and air mobility. Mongolia is partnered with the Alaska 
National Guard in the State Partnership Program.
      Taiwan. The United States and Taiwan maintain a 
substantive relationship consistent with the One China Policy, based on 
the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA), three United States-China Joint 
Communiques, and the Six Assurances. Taiwan's values reflect our own--
an open economy with a free and democratic society that respects human 
rights and the rule of law. The United States continues to support the 
peaceful resolution of cross-Strait issues in a manner consistent with 
the wishes and best interests of the people of Taiwan. The United 
States provides Taiwan defense articles and services in such quantity 
to allow Taiwan to main sufficient self-defense capabilities---and in a 
manner commensurate with the threat that Taiwan faces. To help 
accomplish this, USINDOPACOM focuses on improving the Taiwan military's 
joint interoperability, training, readiness, and professional 
development. Beijing is pushing across the globe to diplomatically 
isolate, economically constrain, and militarily threaten Taiwan. Taiwan 
has only fifteen diplomatic partners remaining, recently losing 
Kiribati and Solomon Islands in 2019. General Secretary Xi Jinping's 
2019 New Year's speech made it clear that Beijing is focused on 
achieving unification as a part of the PRC's national plan of 
rejuvenation, stating ``We do not promise to renounce the use of force 
and reserve the option to use all necessary measures.'' The United 
States has a deep and abiding interest in peace and stability in the 
Taiwan Strait and welcomes steps from the PRC to reduce tensions and 
improve cross-Strait relations. The cross-Strait situation is of 
increasing concern given the harsh rhetoric from Beijing toward Taipei. 
Taiwan is strengthening its reserve forces and continues to fund 
foreign and indigenous acquisition programs and near-term training and 
readiness.
      South Asia. USINDOPACOM's goal in South Asia is to 
identify and seize opportunities to broaden critical partnerships and 
ensure that shared domains remain free of coercion and open to all. In 
conjunction with India's contributions to regional security and the 
free and open international-based order, United States actions are 
aimed to prevent adversaries from establishing an adequate military 
presence in the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) and the Bay of Bengal.
    USINDOPACOM will continue to help these nations develop 
economically, resist threats to their sovereign interests, provide 
sufficient security to their land borders and maritime boundaries, and 
contribute to global peace and stability.
      Bangladesh. Bangladesh is an important security partner 
with the potential to enhance regional stability and advance United 
States interests in South Asia on maritime security, counterterrorism, 
HA/DR, and support to UNPKO. Over the past decade, steady and 
significant economic growth has enabled more foreign military sales as 
it pursues middle-income status by 2024. Transnational terrorism and 
crime remain internal security issues, as evidenced by five ISIS-
claimed IED attacks in 2019. In August 2019, Bangladesh took receipt of 
the first of five C-130J aircraft from the United Kingdom. Bangladesh 
also signaled its interest in buying advanced United States military 
aircraft in the near future. Over the next year, there is potential to 
expand United States-Bangladesh maritime security cooperation through 
navy-to-navy engagement and security cooperation programs that enhance 
Bangladesh's maritime domain awareness. We intend to deepen our 
interoperability with Bangladesh once our two countries move forward on 
two important foundational agreements: a General Security of Military 
Intelligence Agreement (GSOMIA) and an Acquisition and Cross Services 
Agreement (ACSA). These would strengthen our bilateral relationship, 
deepen defense cooperation, and generate opportunities for 
interoperability. Bangladesh is partnered with the Oregon National 
Guard in the State Partnership Program.
      The Maldives. The Maldives sits along crucial sea lines 
of communication. A highly dispersed population spread across 200 
islands and an immense exclusive economic zone (twice the size of 
California) make the Maldives vulnerable to transnational threats and 
illicit trafficking. The United States executed nascent security 
cooperation activities and engagements with the Maldives from 2015 to 
2018, and the PRC substantially increased economic and security 
investments during this time. The Solih Government is a strong 
supporter of upholding the international rules-based order and desires 
improved relations with the United States, especially related to 
addressing transnational crime. USINDOPACOM's areas of interest for 
engagement include counterterrorism, maritime domain awareness, IUU 
fishing, counternarcotics, and combatting human trafficking. In 
September 2020, we signed the ``Framework for United States Department 
of Defense-Maldives Ministry of Defense and Security Relationship'' 
setting forth both countries' intent to deepen engagement and 
cooperation in support of maintaining peace and security in the Indian 
Ocean. The most significant United States-Maldives military interaction 
occurs during the Joint Combined Exchange Trainings that take place 
twice a year to enhance Maldives' ability to respond to terrorism.

      Nepal. The United States maintains a robust and growing 
relationship with Nepal's security apparatus. Internal unrest 
continues, owing in part to unresolved grievances from the 1996 to 2006 
Maoist insurgency. PRC influence is growing, with Nepal agreeing to 
become a member of China's Belt and Road Initiative. Also, natural 
disasters such as earthquakes, flooding, and melting glaciers threaten 
the livelihood of this democracy. USINDOPACOM orients our programs 
against these challenges. The Nepal Army continues to improve its 
institutions and professionalize its force. Through capacity-building 
programs from the DOD and USINDOPACOM, the Ministry of Defense, 
historically separate from the Army but now responsible for it, is 
growing its ability to lead and improve civil-military relations. 
USINDOPACOM's primary focus areas for engagement remain HA/DR capacity 
building, peacekeeping operations (PKO), and strengthening the military 
and civil security institutions. Nepal is the world's sixth-largest 
contributing nation to United Nations Peacekeeping, deploying over 
5,600 troops to 13 different missions. Nepal hosts an UN-certified 
international PKO training center, primarily funded by the State-DOD 
Global Peace Operations Initiative. In December 2019, the State 
Department delivered the first two C-146J Skytrucks to Nepal, a small, 
fix-winged cargo aircraft that immediately improved their HA/DR 
capacity. Nepal is partnered with the Utah National Guard under the 
State Partnership Program.
      Sri Lanka. Maintaining, and in certain areas expanding, 
military-to-military engagement with Sri Lanka will continue to be an 
area of USINDOPACOM focus. Sri Lanka shows a continued willingness to 
seek security cooperation with the United States; however, the 
bilateral defense relationship will encounter challenges, particularly 
given allegations of senior military officers' involvement in gross 
violations of human rights during the country's civil war. The United 
States must continue its defense cooperation with Sri Lanka and assist 
in professionalizing its military and further building its maritime 
security capacity. There is potential to increase collaboration with 
maritime and air forces on various issues, including counterterrorism, 
counter narcotics, human trafficking, HA/DR, and maritime domain 
awareness. The transfer of an excess United States Coast Guard cutter 
to Sri Lanka in August 2018 and additional platforms from the United 
States, Japan, and India, provides the Sri Lankan Navy greater 
capabilities to contribute to regional maritime domain awareness 
initiatives. Sri Lanka is partnered with the Montana National Guard in 
the State Partnership Program.
           modernize exercises, experimentation, & innovation
    Currently, the Joint Force lacks the training capacity to integrate 
Service recommended weapons and capabilities into a warfighting concept 
that deters the adversary and aligns positional advantage. U.S. Forces 
must be capable of fighting in highly contested environments against 
technologically advanced opponents while also preserving our freedom of 
action across all domains. We must continue to expand the capability of 
our ranges the same as we advance our platforms and weapons.
    NDAA-21's $2 million authorization for the Pacific Multi-Domain 
Test and Experimentation Capability (PMTEC) clarifies the requirements 
for the development of the necessary, fully--instrumented, live-virtual 
training areas throughout the Indo-Pacific by networking the test and 
training ranges from the west coast of the United States, across the 
Pacific, to Japan and Australia.
    This capability begins the process to develop the training capacity 
to integrate Service recommended weapons and capabilities into a joint 
warfighting concept that deters the adversary and trains our most 
capable warfighting force while expanding the breadth and scale of 
experimentation.
    Many of the ranges in the Indo-Pacific have the potential for 
addressing USINDOPACOM's requirements:
      Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex (JPARC), Elmendorf, 
Alaska, U.S. Air Force--allows for all domain integration.
      Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF), Barking Sands, 
Kauai, Hawaii, U.S. Navy--the world's largest instrumented multi-
environmental range complex capable of supporting surface, subsurface, 
air, and space operations simultaneously.
      Pohakuloa Training Area (PTA), Hawaii Island, Hawaii, 
U.S. Army--provides a quality joint/combined arms facility that 
supports company level live-fire and battalion level maneuver training. 
If we prioritize further investments here, PTA could support battalion-
sized live-fire, brigade maneuver, and most importantly provide a 
training environment for a Division to synchronize joint and multi-
domain effects.
      Kwajalein Ranges, Kwajalein Atoll, United States Army--
provides missile and missile-interceptor development, space 
surveillance, and satellite tracking.
      Combined/Joint Military Training (CJMT) Commonwealth of 
Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI), United States Marine Corps--would 
allow company size units to conduct training. We continue to work with 
key CNMI leaders to develop a way ahead.
    PDI also authorized $128 million in fiscal year 2021 for 
USINDOPACOM's Joint Exercise Program that will begin to transition into 
Operation Pacific Resolve--a series of coalition and joint exercises 
deliberately linked over time and space in the western Pacific to 
provide a persistent presence in the form of an Integrated Joint Force.
    Operational Pacific Resolve will provide the platform to integrate 
the existing ranges, training areas, and test facilitates to support a 
coherent Joint Exercise Program. This platform will generate force 
readiness, test emerging capabilities, and drive theater-appropriate 
requirements in a fully instrumented live-virtual training area.
Special Enablers and Authorities.
      Building Partner Capacity (BPC) Authorities. USINDOPACOM 
relies on these authorities to support security cooperation initiatives 
or activities, such as counterterrorism and bolstering our partners' 
land, maritime, and air forces to resist coercion and protect their 
people's critical information. We also rely on State Department 
authorities such as FMF, IMET, and the Global Peace Operations 
Initiative (GPOI) to meet capacity-building requirements that promote 
the tenets of a Free and Open Indo-Pacific.
      Title 10, Section 333--Global Man, Train and Equip. In 
fiscal year 2021, USINDOPACOM received $254.6M for building partner 
capacity for our allies and partners. This amount accounted for 
approximately 26 percent of the total funding for global Title 10 
(Section 333) activities. While the United States is still the 
preferred partner of choice for the vast majority of countries, PRC's 
soft power will continue to negatively influence Indo-Pacific 
governments without additional direct investment. Congress' continued 
advocacy, support, assistance, and constructive oversight are critical 
for these tools to be used to their maximum potential.
      Maritime Security Initiative (MSI). MSI continues to be 
one of the most popular enablers with partner nations and is currently 
over prescribed based on the associated progress partner countries are 
now making. Security cooperation in the maritime domain remains one of 
our highest priorities. MSI is our primary tool for building 
partnership capacity with governments to advance our allies and 
partners' ability to sense a threat, share the information, and 
contribute to a coordinated interagency and sometimes multilateral 
responses.
      Joint Interagency Task Force--West (JIATF West). 
Transnational organized crime (TOC) has strategic implications for 
United States national interests and for our allies and partners. I am 
concerned about the destabilizing impact of organized crime, its impact 
on our Nation, and indications that China is using TOC to 
surreptitiously advance its agenda across the region and beyond. In 
response to the growing TOC threat in the Indo-Pacific, JIATF West has 
expanded its counter narcotic operations and activities and is well-
positioned to carry out broader counter TOC activities. Through the 
Section 1022 authorities, JIATF West works with an interconnected 
network of U.S. and foreign partners to counter networks that traffic 
illicit drugs, goods, and commodities, to include precursor chemicals. 
However, I am concerned with the potential lapse of DOD's Section 1022 
authority, which will expire at the end of fiscal year 2022. This 
authority allows our counter-threat finance analysts at USINDOPACOM to 
continue helping our law enforcement partners disrupt the finances of 
terrorist groups and transnational criminal organizations, including 
those that operate in Asia and the Pacific. Congress has provided 
annual extensions of the Section 1022 authority ever since it first 
provided the authority in the fiscal year 2004 NDAA.
      China's unwillingness to address the illicit trade and 
distribution of fentanyl into the United States represents a clear and 
present danger to our national security. JIATF West is now using new 
processes that analyze, illuminate, and identify threat networks for 
U.S. and foreign law enforcement for action. The drug trafficking and 
transnational crime supply routes pass through multiple countries in 
Southeast Asia and across the vast Oceania region before reaching 
destinations in Mexico and the United States. JIATF West is a vital 
instrument in aligning a significant interagency effort--not only to 
counter drugs--but to fine-tune our ability to disrupt transnational 
criminal networks that are inflicting immense harm on our country.
      Center for Excellence on Disaster Management (CFE-DM). 
USINDOPACOM works with other nations to build partnership capacity to 
engage where our unique military capabilities can help develop our 
partners' military capacity in the area of HA/DR. A U.S. Agency for 
International Development (USAID) Mission Civilian-Military Coordinator 
is paired with our Security Cooperation Officers to ensure security and 
development activities are aligned in each country they operate in. 
Infectious diseases like the novel Coronavirus (COVID-19), Tuberculosis 
(the most significant global killer), Dengue Fever, and Measles are 
examples of growing threats to stability in the region. USINDOPACOM's 
efforts in health security promote the U.S. Government's commitment to 
the Global Health Security Agenda for promoting community health and 
capacity through numerous engagements and interactions.
      Natural & Man-made Disasters. The Indo-Pacific remains 
the most disaster-prone region in the world. More than 75 percent of 
the earth's volcanoes and 90 percent of earthquakes occur in the ``Ring 
of Fire'' surrounding the Pacific Basin. The U.N. estimates economic 
losses in the region due to disasters could exceed $160 billion 
annually by 2030. Other regional and global threats, including climate 
change, pandemics, and IUU fishing, further threaten our precious 
shared natural environments and economic sustainability. Many countries 
across the region still lack sufficient capability and capacity to 
manage large-scale disasters; however, some have made steady progress 
building capacity to deal with small-scale events. USAID leads federal 
responses to international disasters and preparedness and mitigation 
efforts. A key element of USINDOPACOM's global engagement strategy in 
the region, through the Center for Excellence in Disaster Management 
and Humanitarian Assistance, is building capacity with our allies' and 
partners' militaries to improve their resilience capability to conduct 
their HA/DR.
      Women, Peace, and Security (WPS) Program. USINDOPACOM is 
grateful for Congress' continued support for WPS programming, and 
USINDOPACOM remains committed to integrating WPS goals into 
USINDOPACOM's framework for security cooperation. From conflict 
prevention, stabilization, peacekeeping, to HA/DR, WPS is a unique 
smart power asset that advances a Free and Open Indo-Pacific. In 
support of the DOD's WPS Strategic Framework and Implementation Plan, 
USINDOPACOM's Office of WPS promotes a gender perspective across our 
theater plans, programs, and policies to develop security strategies 
inclusive of the entire population. WPS builds resilience capacity, 
particularly through civil-military disaster response planning, 
coordination, and response. USINDOPACOM and partner nations highlight 
the significance of a gendered security approach to both steady state 
and emergency operations through programs such as the Women's 
Mentorship Program and the Rural Women Changemakers Program. These 
programs emphasize the unique protection needs of women, children, and 
other vulnerable populations but also underscore women's distinctive 
contributions to strengthening disaster preparedness and response. 
Furthermore, USINDOPACOM continues to engage with our Pacific Island 
Nation Partners through WPS and recently held a virtual summit focused 
on the nexus of gender, climate, and disaster risk and resilience 
through a Pacific lens. WPS promotes the values and norms desired by 
all people: dignity, human rights, and equality under the law. The 
meaningful inclusion of women in peace processes has led to longer 
lasting peace agreements, and factoring the perspectives and needs of 
an entire population into INDOPACOM's security cooperation framework 
ensures a sustainable and practical approach to achieving lasting 
security outcomes.
      COVID-19 and Infectious Disease Response. Natural and 
man-made disasters do not recognize national boundaries, as evidenced 
by the measles outbreak in Samoa, an outbreak of Dengue Fever in the 
Freely Associated States in 2020, and the global COVID-19 pandemic. 
These events remind us how interconnected and dependent the world is 
and the need to work together to solve some of our most challenging 
humanitarian problems.
    We continue to carefully evaluate all operations, exercises, and 
training events to ensure we can safeguard our personnel, maintain the 
joint force's readiness, and conduct our defense support to civilian 
agencies and foreign humanitarian assistance missions. The proactive 
actions of the USFK and USFJ commanders' led to the mitigation of risks 
commensurate to their circumstance. Our forward-deployed personnel work 
closely with national and local governments to coordinate definitive, 
enforceable actions to combat the Coronavirus spread. Within the 
Department and across the Department, we have taken many far-reaching 
measures to slow the virus's spread by closing schools, restaurants, 
and on-base businesses. We implemented preventive measures to restrict 
the virus's spread with a telework program and flex schedules, modified 
meeting protocols, and increased sanitation in communal areas. We have 
also implemented aggressive quarantine measures that range from 
individual Restriction of Movement procedures to hospitalization in a 
local treatment facility if a servicemember tests positive. To date, 
our forward stationed troops in Korea and Japan are maintaining 
appropriate levels of readiness.
    This is an unprecedented effort, and we remain flexible to meet the 
evolving challenges the spread of this virus presents. Lab-testing was 
established in Tripler Army Community Hospital (Hawaii), Brian Allgood 
Community Hospital (South Korea), United States Naval Hospital (Japan), 
and the Armed Forces Research Institute of Medical Science (Thailand). 
We will continue to proactively mitigate the negative impacts of this 
and all future cases.
    The COVID-19 outbreak is a staunch reminder a ready medical force 
should not be exclusively designed to manage traumatic injuries; 
indeed, even in armed conflict, disease, and non-battle injuries still 
comprise the most significant number of casualties.
                       key adversarial challenges
    As we pursue a Free and Open Indo-Pacific, we face significant 
challenges from four key adversaries. The PRC represents our greatest 
strategic threat. Its rapidly advancing capabilities and increasingly 
competitive posture underscore its drive to become a regionally 
dominant, globally influential power. Beijing is growing increasingly 
confident, and PRC leaders have demonstrated a willingness to accept 
friction to pursue a more expansive set of political, economic, and 
security interests. This growing assertiveness is particularly acute 
concerning sovereignty disputes, as Beijing seeks to steadily and 
incrementally shift the regional status quo to their advantage.
    The United States' other great power competitor, Russia, also seeks 
to assert itself as a significant military, economic, and diplomatic 
power in the Indo-Pacific Region. Moscow pursues broad regional 
engagement, including military engagement, to advance its strategic 
interests and oppose, challenge, and thwart United States and allied 
interests.
    Meanwhile, until the nuclear situation is resolved on the Korean 
Peninsula, North Korea will remain our most immediate threat. Pyongyang 
continues to develop Weapons of Mass Destruction and asymmetric 
capabilities-- including nuclear weapons and associated delivery 
systems, as well as advanced cyber operations--that threaten our allies 
and the United States Homeland.
    Finally, the regional threat from terrorism and violent extremism 
continues to evolve with global conditions. Global networks such as the 
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) inspire attacks motivated by 
ISIS' ideology or tactics remain a significant concern.
    People's Republic of China. The PRC is pursuing rapid, 
comprehensive military modernization across land, sea, air, space, 
cyber, and information domains, with a clear focus on systems intended 
to expand its anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) envelope across the 
region and enhance the country's force projection and strategic 
deterrence. This far-reaching strategy aligns with the stated goals for 
People's Liberation Army (PLA) modernization, which PRC leaders remain 
highly resolved to achieve. In October, Beijing announced it would seek 
to accelerate military modernization initiatives in time for the PLA's 
100th anniversary in 2027, advancing the PRC's progress toward its 
previously-stated milestones of completing military modernization by 
2035 and transforming the PLA into a ``world-class'' military by the 
end of 2049. The PLA is pursuing several initiatives toward this end, 
including developing highly capable, advanced weapons systems, 
enhancing its training and exercise program's scope and complexity, and 
expanding the breadth of its operational space across the Region.
    PLA Modernization. The PRC focuses particular attention on PLA Navy 
(PLAN) and PLA Air Force (PLAAF) modernization, which it sees as key to 
projecting power and achieving great power status. The PRC maintains 
the world's largest naval force, which has tripled in size over the 
past two decades. The PLAN commissioned more than 25 major ships in 
2020 alone, including combatants, amphibious warfare ships, and two 
nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines.
    The addition of these new platforms--which include two new classes 
of modern warships, the RENHAI guided-missile cruiser, and the LUYANG 
III MOD guided-missile destroyer--provides the PLAN greater 
maneuverability and flexibility to perform a diverse set of missions, 
ranging from littoral warfare to far-seas operations. Meanwhile, the 
PLA has operationally fielded its first 5th generation stealth fighter, 
the J-20. It is advancing the development of its first aerial-
refuelable bomber, the H-6N, which will complete the country's nuclear 
triad's final leg. The PLAAF's Y-20 heavy-lift transport aircraft also 
conducted its first overseas missions in 2020, advancing the PLA's 
ability to quickly deploy forces and sustain operations across multiple 
fronts.
    PLA Long Range Weapons Development. The PRC is simultaneously 
developing several modern, long-range weapons intended to strengthen 
the PLA's standoff precision strike and nuclear deterrence and 
counterattack capabilities. The PRC is pursuing a range of advanced 
weaponry, including electromagnetic railguns, hypersonic glide 
vehicles, and land-attack and anti-ship supersonic cruise missiles, and 
the PLA Rocket Force conducts more ballistic missile live-fires every 
year than the rest of the world combined. The PRC is also expanding and 
maturing its space and counterspace programs. Beijing continues to grow 
its space-based intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) 
constellation and is developing reusable launch vehicle and heavy space 
lift capabilities that facilitate the insertion of more and larger 
satellites into orbit. The PLA is also pursuing counter-space 
technologies such as satellite jammers and directed-energy and direct-
ascent kinetic weapons. Significantly, the PRC's Beidou-3 global 
satellite system reached full operational capability in June 2020, 
providing the PLA an indigenous system for global positioning, 
navigation, and timing coverage. Collectively, these developments--
particularly as they reduce the PRC's reliance on the United States' 
space-based infrastructure--facilitate the militarization of space and 
increase the threat that the PRC will employ counter-space weapons that 
deny the U.S. and allied access to space during a conflict or crisis.
    PLA Training and Exercises. Notably, the PRC is not merely 
developing advanced weapons systems but is increasingly employing them 
in training and exercise scenarios to hone PLA warfighting skills and 
send an unmistakable message to regional and global audiences. In 
August 2020 for example, the PRC conducted coordinated DF-21D missile 
launches into the South China Sea. These mid-range, anti-ship ballistic 
missiles are capable of attacking aircraft carriers in the western 
Pacific, and their employment during a large-scale PLA exercise 
demonstrates the PLA's focus on countering any potential third-party 
intervention during a regional crisis. Likewise, the PLA conducts joint 
amphibious landing and maritime strike training to simulate a Taiwan 
invasion scenario and performs large-force maneuvers to demonstrate its 
ability to intervene in a Korean peninsula crisis. Through complex, 
realistic training and exercises that emphasize joint tactics and 
incorporate advanced technologies, the PLA continues to refine 
organizational and process changes initiated as part of 2015's sweeping 
reforms. These reforms compensate for the lack of recent combat 
experience, both critical steps as the PLA prepares for modern warfare.
    PRC Threats in the Region. The PRC has adopted an increasingly 
assertive military posture to exert pressure and expand its influence 
across the region. This is particularly stark concerning Taiwan. Over 
the past year, Beijing has pursued a coordinated campaign of 
diplomatic, informational, economic, and--increasingly--military tools 
to isolate Taipei from the international community and if necessary, 
compel unification with the PRC. Throughout 2020 the PLA has amplified 
its force posturing near and around Taiwan, to include using H-6 
bombers to circumnavigate the island and conduct Taiwan Strait 
centerline crossings and flying military aircraft into Taiwan's air 
defense identification zone (ADIZ) at the highest rate in nearly 25 
years. Over the past 2 years, the PRC has incorporated highly-
publicized amphibious assault training into national-level exercises, 
almost certainly to exert pressure and signal resolve.
    Beijing's authoritative messaging has also grown increasingly 
confrontational and has linked the PLA's military activities near the 
Taiwan Strait to ``separatist'' activities in Taiwan. On the diplomatic 
front, Beijing continues to impede Taiwan's meaningful participation in 
international organizations. In 2020 for example, Taiwan was blocked 
from participating as an observer in the annual World Health Assembly 
despite its success in managing the COVID pandemic. Such consistent 
employment of pressure tactics undermines the Chinese Communist Party 
claims that it desires a peaceful unification with Taiwan.
    Hong Kong experienced a significant decline in autonomy following 
the PRC's imposition of the Hong Kong National Security Law in June 
2020. At Beijing's behest, Hong Kong authorities used mass arrests to 
silence pro-democracy activists and curb further dissent by eroding the 
pro-democracy movement's political power, weakening Hong Kong's free 
press and promoting pro-Beijing education in Hong Kong's schools. 
Meanwhile, PRC security organizations have established an official 
presence in the city under the auspices of the Office for Safeguarding 
National Security, enabling Beijing to closely monitor Hong Kong 
residents and enforce the National Security Law. Through these heavy-
handed efforts to impose authoritarian control over Hong Kong affairs, 
the PRC has demonstrated the hollowness of its ``one country, two 
systems'' model.
    The PRC's expansionary territorial ambitions are also on display 
along its western border, where the PLA has been engaged in a standoff 
with Indian forces along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) since May 
2020. The standoff was predicated by clashes over construction 
activities near the disputed border PLA ground maneuver and support 
elements subsequently forward-deployed roughly 50,000 soldiers along 
the LAC, leading to a counter-deployment by the Indian Army.
    The PLA has not yet withdrawn from several forward positions it 
seized following the initial clash, and the consequent escalation of 
tensions between the PRC and India has resulted in casualties on both 
sides. This large-scale PLA mobilization--which is particularly notable 
considering the elevation, terrain, and distance involved--has stoked 
regional concerns that the PRC will increasingly use force to achieve 
desired outcomes.
    The South China Sea (SCS) situation remains unsettled in light of 
the PRC's provocative behavior and expansive and unlawful maritime 
claims. The PRC continues to militarize the region, deploying new 
equipment to its artificial outposts in 2020 and using forward 
airfields to support a growing level of military operations by heavy 
transport, intelligence, and anti-submarine aircraft. The PLA also 
conducts large-scale exercises in the SCS with an emphasis on 
amphibious landing, joint fires, and maritime strike scenarios. PLA 
ships and aircraft maintain a consistent SCS presence and are augmented 
by an armada of China Coast Guard ships, fishing boats, and other para-
military forces that serve as force multipliers. These actions--which 
are inconsistent with President Xi Jinping's and Defense Minister Wei 
Fenghe's assurances that the PRC would not militarize the SCS--threaten 
our allies and partners' autonomy, jeopardize freedoms of navigation, 
overflight and other lawful uses of the sea, and compromise regional 
peace and stability.
    Meanwhile, the PRC continues to use intimidation to inhibit other 
claimant nations' access to offshore resources. Beijing maintains its 
excessive and unlawful maritime claims over a massive area in the SCS, 
contrary to international law as reflected in the 1982 Law of the Sea 
Convention. The PRC sought to further bolster its unlawful maritime 
claims last April, unilaterally renaming over 80 SCS geographic 
features and establishing two administrative districts with alleged 
jurisdiction over the region. The PRC is also attempting to solidify 
its claims by imposing domestic laws across the disputed waters of the 
SCS. In April, its Coast Guard led an eight-month campaign-- dubbed 
``Blue Sea 2020''--that seized nearly 700 vessels for violations of PRC 
laws, and in early 2021, the PRC passed legislation that expanded the 
Coast Guard's legal authority to use force against foreign vessels and 
destroy other countries' economic structures in disputed areas. 
Moreover, PRC ships and aircraft continue to harass and disrupt other 
nations' commercial fishing and resource exploration and extraction 
activities, even when conducted in areas where China cannot assert a 
lawful maritime claim within the respective countries' exclusive 
economic zones (EEZs). The PRC's pursuit of excessive maritime claims 
at the expense of neighboring states' EEZ rights negatively affects the 
economies of Southeast Asian nations and threatens to weaken the 
effectiveness of international laws and norms.
    Beijing similarly seeks to advance its territorial ambitions in the 
East China Sea (ECS), and consistently uses its Air Force, Navy, and 
Coast Guard to press its sovereignty claims vis-a-vis the Japanese-
administered Senkaku Islands, test Japanese and United States resolve, 
and ratchet up tensions in Northeast Asia. China Coast Guard vessels 
routinely enter the territorial waters of the Senkaku Islands to assert 
PRC sovereignty, despite lacking international standing on the dispute. 
PRC ships conducted presence operations in the contiguous waters around 
the Senkakus for a record 333 days in 2020, an increase of nearly 20 
percent from 2019. In a reprise of its earlier SCS maneuvering, in June 
2020, Beijing unilaterally renamed 50 geographic features in the East 
China Sea, a number of which are near the Senkaku Islands. The PRC's 
simultaneous employment of military and administrative measures to 
pursue its ECS claims is indicative of its broader efforts to steadily 
and incrementally shift the regional status quo in Beijing's favor. 
Beijing is increasingly using all instruments of national power to 
fundamentally remake the rules-based international order into one more 
aligned with, and amenable to, the PRC. Its signature ``One Belt, One 
Road'' (OBOR) strategy, is predicated on building a global economic 
system that enforces PRC preferences and ideologies while eschewing 
transparency and internationally-accepted investment practices. Beijing 
utilizes loans, grants, and monetary gifts to establish economic 
dependence, corruptly capture elite allegiance, and in some cases, 
consolidate control. The PRC also leverages OBOR projects and economic 
pressure as part of a broader strategy to develop overseas PLA bases 
and support facilities; the naval base currently under redevelopment at 
Ream, Cambodia, is the latest example of the PRC's global basing 
ambitions.
    To foster a Free and Open Indo-Pacific, the United States, 
alongside our allies and partners, must stand up to Beijing's coercive 
economic strategies while providing viable assistance and alternatives 
to borrowing countries.
    Russia is building a better, more capable force in its Far East 
that is increasingly active across the Indo-Pacific Region. Ongoing 
Russian Federation Navy improvements include new platforms with 
advanced weapons systems, and we expect the Russian Pacific Fleet will 
add its first Kalibr cruise missile-capable ships and submarines to its 
inventory in 2021, giving it substantially increased anti-ship 
capabilities and the ability to conduct long-range strikes against land 
targets for the first time. Russia is also modernizing its Eastern 
Military District capabilities with air defense and land-based anti-
ship cruise missiles, advanced fighters, and upgraded bombers capable 
of delivering improved and longer-range strikes. These improvements are 
designed to restrict access to regions of the Pacific Ocean near 
Russia's coast, while simultaneously expanding Russia's ability to 
project power across the Region and into the Arctic.
    In the Arctic, Russia seeks to increase and routinize its presence 
through exercises and increasing military deployments. During Naval 
exercise Ocean Shield 2020, Russia tested its ability to defend the 
Eastern Arctic via amphibious landing training and a series of coastal 
defense cruise missile and artillery live-fire events. Russian 
strategic bombers regularly conduct long-range flights off the Alaskan 
coast and across Russia's northern periphery. In mid-2020, it flew for 
more than 25 hours in the most prolonged continuous bomber operation 
over the Arctic.
    By late 2020, Russia deployed MiG-31 fighters and associated 
infrastructure to Anadyr airfield in the far northeast, enabling a 
continuous air defense, alert, and duty posture in the Arctic. This 
dynamic military posture underscores Moscow's determination to 
establish itself as the preeminent Arctic power, capable of controlling 
foreign access to Arctic resources and transportation routes.
    Russia is pursuing military, political, and economic engagement 
across the Indo-Pacific Region, though the PRC is increasingly Russia's 
most important partner. This relationship has grown steadily closer 
since 2019, when the pair agreed to pursue a ``comprehensive strategic 
partnership for a new era.'' In late December, Presidents Putin and Xi 
reaffirmed their desire to maintain strong bilateral ties in 2021, 
which marks the 20th anniversary of the pair's ``Treaty of Good-
Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation.'' The PRC and Russia conducted 
a combined bomber patrol over the Sea of Japan and East China Sea in 
late 2020, representing the second such mission for the two countries, 
following an initial patrol in July 2019. In mid-2020, the PLA also 
participated in Russia's capstone strategic exercise for the third 
consecutive year, demonstrating both countries' commitment to messaging 
bilateral military ties despite COVID concerns. Notwithstanding these 
symbolic engagements, we have yet to see true integration between 
Russian and PLA elements. We have no evidence Moscow and Beijing seek 
to build an interoperable military capability, and both nations have 
stated publicly they do not intend to create a formal, mutual defense 
alliance. Instead, we expect Russia and the PRC to continue pursuing 
limited, coordinated military operations that support both nations' 
interests.
    North Korea poses a significant security risk to the United States 
and our partners in the Indo-Pacific Region. The country has taken no 
meaningful steps toward denuclearization, despite promising signs of 
de-escalation in 2018, and it continues to advance its strategic 
weapons program. Pyongyang maintains a diverse and growing missile 
inventory, and North Korea unveiled several new ballistic systems 
during military parades in late 2020 and early 2021, including two 
SLBMs and an ICBM. Meanwhile, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has re-
adopted a bellicose posture toward the United States. In December 2019, 
Kim declared he was no longer bound by a self-imposed moratorium on 
nuclear and long-range missile tests. In early 2021 he characterized 
the United States as the North's biggest or principal enemy as he vowed 
to strengthen its nuclear arsenal. Kim also identified several new 
weapon modernization goals in early 2021, to include developing 
tactical nuclear weapons and hypersonic glide vehicles and improving 
the readiness and accuracy of North Korea's ICBMs. Pyongyang's missile 
research and development efforts, coupled with its ongoing pursuit of 
nuclear material and technology, are consistent with the regime's 
stated objective of being able to strike the United States Homeland.
    Kim Jong Un has historically shown a willingness to undertake 
provocative, escalatory behavior that foments persistent regional 
tensions. In 2020, Pyongyang increased its bellicose rhetoric and 
posturing by destroying the inter-Korean Joint Liaison Office and 
threatening further retaliation for perceived South Korean 
transgressions. North Korea pursued a more moderated approach later in 
the year as it diverted attention toward flood recovery and COVID 
mitigation efforts.
    Nonetheless, it continues to develop new--and upgrade existing--
conventional weapons systems that threaten our regional partners' 
safety and security. At its October 2020 military parade, North Korea 
unveiled an anti-tank guided missile system, self-propelled artillery, 
a new SAM system and accompanying radar, and large-caliber rockets/
missiles. Further, Kim continues to call for unilateral South Korean 
adherence to the 2018 Comprehensive Military Agreement--and has 
reiterated a reduction of United States-South Korean military ties as a 
precondition of improved inter-Korean engagement--while maintaining a 
provocative stance toward the South.
    In defiance of the United Nations Security Council Resolution 
(UNSCRs), North Korea continues to import refined petroleum through 
illicit ship-to-ship transfers and unreported direct deliveries by 
foreign-flagged vessels. USINDOPACOM supports UNSCR enforcement and 
works closely with our partners and allies to disrupt the illicit ship-
to-ship transfers.
    Unfortunately, Pyongyang has been able to mitigate this effort's 
effects due to Beijing and Moscow's relatively lax sanctions 
enforcement. Pyongyang's sanctions-evasion strategy relies heavily on 
PRC shipping networks, and many of the illicit transfers occur in or 
near PRC territorial waters.
    Further, North Korea mitigates the effect of UN-imposed sanctions 
through a variety of other illicit evasion tactics. Pyongyang exports 
coal in contravention of U.N. prohibitions, and North Korean laborers 
continue to work around the world, including in the PRC and Russia--
either illegally or through visa loopholes--beyond the December 2019 
repatriation deadline provided in UNSCR 2397. Additionally, malicious 
cyber activity remains a significant source of revenue for the regime. 
Through cyber-enabled financial theft, extortion campaigns, and 
cryptojacking--wherein North Korea uses compromised computing resources 
to mine digital currency--North Korea raises illicit revenue to support 
its weapons development programs.
    Violent Extremist Organizations (VEOs). The Islamic State of Iraq 
and Syria (ISIS) remains the most active and deadliest terrorist threat 
in the region, with branches in the Philippines and India and networks 
of supporters in Indonesia, Maldives, Bangladesh, Malaysia and Sri 
Lanka. The group's Philippines-based branch, ISIS East Asia, has 
conducted several high-profile attacks in recent years, including 
August 2020 twin suicide bombings in Jolo that killed at least 15 
people. However, the group lacks the operational capability to plan 
sophisticated attacks, and its
    loss of key leaders caused it setbacks in 2020. Notably, these 
disparate ISIS and ISIS-inspired groups are not cohesive; they do not 
collaborate or fall under the same command and control structure. They 
lack substantial connections to the ISIS core in Iraq and Syria. 
Although ISIS is the most pervasive VEO in the region, al Qaeda (A.Q.) 
has historical ties to and followers in several countries. However, the 
group's priorities remain concentrated in Afghanistan, and regional 
A.Q. supporters mostly refrain from operational planning due to limited 
capabilities and a focus on facilitation and recruitment activities. 
Local groups--such as Indonesia-based Jemaah Anshorut Daulah (JAD) and 
Jemaah Islamiyah (J.I.), who are aligned to ISIS and A.Q., 
respectively--continue to operate in the region, but pose a limited 
threat to United States interests.
    However, self-radicalized, ISIS- or AQ-inspired extremists remain a 
cause for concern.
    Meanwhile, regional counterterrorism (CT) capabilities continue to 
improve. Several countries have modernized their CT legislation, 
empowering law enforcement to conduct more arrests that lead to 
convictions. Additionally, in places like the Philippines, host-nation 
security forces have maintained consistent pressure on extremist 
networks, further degrading the groups and disrupting planning and 
attacks. Looking ahead, regional cooperation initiatives, such as the 
Singapore-based Counterterrorism Information Facility (CTIF), will be 
critically important to lessening the threat from violent extremism on 
a multilateral basis.
                      conclusions and implications
    The greatest danger for the United States is the erosion of 
conventional deterrence. Without a valid and convincing conventional 
deterrent, the PRC will be emboldened to take action in the region to 
supplant United States interests. As the military balance in the Indo-
Pacific becomes more unfavorable to the United States, we are 
accumulating additional risk that may embolden our adversaries and 
competitors to attempt unilaterally changing the status quo.
    USINDOPACOM's focus is to ensure access, freedom of maneuver, and 
our ability to project power in the shared domains, which enables 
USINDOPACOM to deter and deny our adversaries' and competitors' ability 
to engage in acts of aggression, coercion, or other malign behavior 
towards our allies and partners along the First Island Chain. 
Ultimately, the steps we take must convince our adversaries and 
competitors they simply cannot achieve their objectives with force.
    PDI provides a pragmatic and economically viable approach for 
implementing a deterrence strategy for defending U.S interests in the 
Indo-Pacific while mitigating risk and avoiding escalation. Funding 
levels in PDI for fiscal year 2021 equates to seven-tenths of 1 percent 
of the DOD's Total Obligating Authority in fiscal year 2021, and just 
two-thirds the amount spent on the European Defense Initiative in 
fiscal year 2020 ($5.9 billion).
    USINDOPACOM must field an integrated Joint Force with precision-
strike networks along the First and Second Island Chains; an integrated 
air and missile defense in the Second Island Chain; and an enhanced 
force posture that provides the ability to preserve regional stability, 
and if needed, disperse and sustain combat operations for extended 
periods.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral. Before we begin 
questions let me remind everyone how we will proceed with 
remote participants. Since it is impossible to know exactly 
when our colleagues who will be joining via the computer 
arrive, we will not be following our standard early bird timing 
rule. Instead, we handle the order of questions by seniority, 
alternating sides, until we have gone through everyone. Once we 
reach the end, if there is anyone we missed we will start back 
at the top of the list and continue until everyone has had 
their turn.
    We will do the standard five-minute rounds. I ask my 
colleagues on the computers, and at their desk, to please keep 
an eye on the clock, which you should see on your screens.
    Finally, to allow for everyone to be heard, whether in the 
room or on the computer, I ask all colleagues to please mute 
your microphone when not speaking.
    Admiral, again, thank you for your service and thank you 
for your testimony. As you indicated, one of the principal 
initiatives of this Committee over the last several years was 
the PDI, and I would ask you, in your view, how is the 
Department, and in particular the services, responded to the 
establishment of PDI?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you, Senator, for the question. I 
am quite encouraged, as you know, the budget for fiscal year 
2022 alone is under review by the new administration, and I was 
quite encouraged by the Deputy Secretary of Defense's memo of 
two weeks ago, where she articulated that the PDI was 
absolutely a priority that would be addressed during the budget 
review.
    I think the Pacific Deterrence Initiative, funded in fiscal 
year 2021 for about $2.2 billion, was a good first start. I 
recognize that the Committee has put a cap of $5.5 billion on 
the fund going forward. I understand from the draft budgets 
that there is certainly recognition of the funds that need to 
go into PDI. I have been encouraged by much of the draft 
material I have seen, but there is a long way to go before the 
budget is finalized, and we'll continue to engage with the 
Department to see it through.
    Chairman Reed. Let me shift focus. How have our allies and 
partners responded to PDI?
    Admiral Davidson. I think quite positively. Our allies and 
partners in the region are looking for the surety that the 
United States is a reliable partner in the region and is here 
to stay. The investments that we make specifically towards the 
PDI will be recognized, and I think are being recognized, at 
least as we have talked about them, in their own advances and 
their own defense budgets, where you see Japan, Korea, and 
Australia, for example, all increasing their defense budgets.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you, Admiral. In your 
independent assessment, you suggested a $4.7 billion Federal 
funding level. Would that be sufficient for all your needs?
    Admiral Davidson. As we have articulated for fiscal year 
2022, sir, if that was to be fully resourced it would assess 
our needs to put in place the deterrent posture that I am 
advocating for.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. One of the big 
challenges, not just in the Pacific but across the military 
services is joint capabilities, particularly secure and 
uninterrupted communication. I do not think it takes a lot of 
expertise to understand that the first wave of assault will 
probably be cyberattacks on communications and other sensitive 
instruments. We have problems getting our services jointly 
connected, and you can allude to them, but our greatest 
comparative advantage in the Pacific is our allies, and so not 
only do we have to solve the problem of joint communications 
with our forces, we have to extend that to our allies. If we 
do, that investment, I think, would probably be the most 
fundamental one we could make, because a fully integrated force 
that can fight together is probably the greatest deterrent in 
the Pacific.
    Can you comment on that, sir?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you, Senator. Indeed, I agree. One 
of the things that we have advocated for in the PDI and our 
1251 assessment that we submitted last week is the need for a 
mission partner environment, which is information technology 
that is available to us today, that extended to our allies and 
partners in the region would give us confidence in the 
cybersecurity of all those systems and the resiliency against 
attack, and it would greatly enhance our ability to plan, our 
ability to collaborate in operations and planning, certainly in 
peace time but then in crisis and conflict as well.
    Chairman Reed. Is that your number one priority?
    Admiral Davidson. After the defense of Guam, Mission 
Partner Environment (MPE), and then advancement for our ranges, 
absolutely, sir. Those are the three big requirements I have 
for this fiscal year.
    Chairman Reed. Just a final question and a quick response. 
Most of our relationships, going back several decades, have 
been bilateral in the Pacific, and we have to move to a 
multilateral approach. Is there any progress in that direction?
    Admiral Davidson. I am quite encouraged by the potential 
power of an organization like the Quad might bring. In my view, 
India, Japan, Australia, and the United States, that is a 
diamond of democracies that could bring so much more, not only 
to the region but to the globe, not in terms of security alone, 
but in terms of how we might approach the global economy, 
critical technologies like telecommunications and 5G, 
collaboration on the international order. Just much to be done 
diplomatically and economically, and I have great hope that our 
ministerial-level meetings with the Quad, as it is known and 
returned, will build into something much bigger for the sake of 
the globe.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Admiral. Senator 
Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much, and at this, Mr. 
Chairman, I want to enter into the record three unclassified 
documents which amount to Appendix 1 of the 1251 report.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The information referred to follows:]
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    Senator Wicker. Basically, Admiral, we talked about this 
earlier, it shows, in an unclassified way, the balance between 
the communist Chinese and the United States in 1999, currently, 
and projected for 2025, four short years from now. With regard 
to the projected 2025, it shows that at that point, China will 
have three aircraft carriers to our one in the region. Is that 
correct?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir.
    Senator Wicker. With regard to amphibious assault ships, it 
is projected in 2025 that they will have six to our two.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir.
    Senator Wicker. Then with regard to modern multi-warfare 
combatant ships, 54 to our 6. Is that correct?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir.
    Senator Wicker. What is the significance of that last 
figure, Admiral?
    Admiral Davidson. Really, the three charts work together, 
Senator, one to show the change in capability and capacity that 
the Chinese have undertaken during the course of the 21st 
century, and the relatively static nature of our own forward-
positioned forces. As I described, our effort to do a 
deterrence, to sustain a deterrence posture in the region is so 
important on our ability to respond in time, and without 
question, you know, as an old novel in the 1970s used to say, 
the importance of United States presence forward is incredibly 
important. Perfect speed is being there. It is to show that if 
we do not make changes in our posture forward, it will 
demonstrate that the Chinese have much greater capacity than we 
have.
    Senator Wicker. Now let's look at it on a little brighter 
side. If you take everything projected that our allies in the 
area will have, and also you consider what we have in Alaska, 
which is not west of the International Date Line but it is 
still fairly close, can you tell us what that does, say, to the 
amphibious assault ships, which is projected to be six Chinese 
and two for us?
    Admiral Davidson. Certainly that gap closes with us and the 
Japanese, with our ambition, but the important factor here is 
time. It takes almost 3 weeks to respond from the West Coast of 
the United States and 17 days to respond from Alaska, to get 
all the way to the first island chain and to conduct operations 
within the second island chain.
    Senator Wicker. Now----
    Admiral Davidson. So--go ahead, sir.
    Senator Wicker. No, go ahead.
    Admiral Davidson. But clearly, Japan brings amphibious 
capability. They have combatant capability, fighter aircraft, 
maritime patrol aircraft. To me, the Japanese are the number 
one ally in the region and they are critically important to the 
security of the region as well.
    Senator Wicker. Can you supply us then with another map, 
taking those considerations that I mentioned into account?
    Admiral Davidson. Absolutely.
    Senator Wicker. You will do that for the record?
    Now the Chinese are projecting a 6.8 percent defense budget 
increase for the next fiscal year. Is that correct?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir.
    Senator Wicker. We are not prepared to match that, are we?
    Admiral Davidson. Not from what I have heard so far, sir.
    Senator Wicker. So we are going to have to spend our money 
smarter.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir.
    Senator Wicker. I am afraid to get what you say you need in 
the PDI, we are going to have to take money from somewhere else 
in the defense budget, at this point. Is that correct? Is that 
your assessment?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. The way the PDI is constructed, 
it will have to come out of the base budget, yes.
    Senator Wicker. With regard to the PDI, I think you are 
telling us there are three things that are yet unfunded in the 
budget plan. Is that correct?
    Admiral Davidson. Again, sir, the budget is not final, it 
is undergoing a review, but I am certainly advocating for Aegis 
Ashore in Guam, the mission partner environment as well as the 
Pacific Missile Test Center (PMTC)--the Pacific Missile--excuse 
me, the Pacific Range improvements that I seek for our 
structure in Alaska, Hawaii, Guam, and so forth.
    Senator Wicker. In a nutshell, how do you feel about our 
ability, right now, to defend Taiwan?
    Admiral Davidson. Well, sir, as I articulated in my opening 
comments, I think our conventional deterrent is actually 
eroding in the region, and it is because of the vast advances, 
on the charts that you were just looking at, that the Chinese 
have undertaken in both terms of capacity over the last 20 
years, and then in the next few years, the improvements they 
will make in their capabilities as well. We need to work more 
forthrightly.
    We have described, in that 1251 assessment that you 
referenced, which is reflective of our regaining advantage 
brief, that improvements in capability, our joint lethality out 
there, enhancements in our design and posture, where we are, 
our ability to operate from more dispersed places, a 
strengthened, allied and partnered network, and improvements in 
our exercises, experimentation, and innovation will make vast 
improvements for really less than 1 percent of the defense 
budget, going forward, and help regain the advantage for us, 
put that conventional deterrent in the field, and prevent 
Chinese designs on its neighbors.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you so much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Now, via Webex, 
Senator Shaheen is recognized.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hopefully you can 
hear me at this point.
    Chairman Reed. We can hear you, Senator.
    Senator Shaheen. Great. Admiral Davidson, thank you for 
your testimony this morning and for your amazing service to the 
country.
    I would like to change the topic a little bit and talk 
about information and the challenges that information warfare 
presents. In Europe, disinformation, cyber hacking has been so 
important in Russia's ability to make inroads that North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) has developed a center to 
respond to that.
    Can you talk about what you are seeing in the Indo-Pacific 
region with respect to cyber warfare and disinformation, from 
both Russia and China, and how INDOPACOM is responding to that?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you very much for that question, 
Senator. Without question, China has a vast disinformation 
machine. They use both regular media and social media, and have 
nearly a million people in their propaganda machine, to 
undermine United States interests, to capture the narrative to 
their own benefit, and to, as I mentioned in my opening 
remarks, you know, corrupt the environment in a way that 
creates doubt amongst our allies and partners in the 
reliability of the United States.
    Russia, in the region, acts much more like a spoiler. As 
opposed to putting forth their own vision, they look to deny 
the visions of others, and are very active as well, especially 
in the diplomatic space but in social media. We see the same 
kind of effects that, you know, the rest of the globe has seen 
from the Russian machine.
    In terms of our INDOPACOM capability and return, you know, 
we are highly dependent on what is a military function, the 
Military Information Support Operation (MISO) operations. We 
are engaged deeply with the State Department on the kind of 
messaging that would reinforce what the United States does in 
the region, and as opposed to providing disinformation, would 
highlight the ills that others have in the region. I think 
that's supportive of the kind of normalized information needs 
that any nation has. Back to you.
    Senator Shaheen. So as you are talking about the effort 
that is underway, do we need to do more? Should there be more 
collaboration with the State Department? You and Senator Reed 
discussed the Quad as being one of the multilateral potential 
institutions that could respond to particularly the Chinese 
threat. Is this something that the Quad should take up in a 
major way, as we look at the threats? Because as you describe 
it, our threats are not just from conventional weapons. They 
are also from that cyber warfare and disinformation space.
    Admiral Davidson. To your point, Senator, you know, 
disinformation is part of the new geostrategic fabric that is 
making the competition so difficult. So a return of capability, 
to the State Department primarily, but certainly to the 
interagency, and what it's able to message across the globe I 
think is critically important. It has immense power, just as a 
historical example, back during the Cold War. I am not trying 
to imply that this is--and I don't want you to infer that this 
is a Cold War advocacy again. But truth, as it moves around the 
globe, is critically important in everything we do and should 
be part of this competition that is being articulated from the 
White House. Back to you.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you very much. I am out of 
time. But thank you also to INDOPACOM for your support for the 
Women, Peace, and Security Act. I hope we will hear more about 
next steps in that area.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Let me recognize 
Senator Fischer via Webex.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Admiral, for your dedicated service to this country and your 
constant vigilance in defending our security and keeping us 
safe.
    Last year, the Strategic Forces Subcommittee authorized an 
additional $77 million to begin fielding a persistent air and 
missile defense on Guam. Unfortunately, this funding was 
removed in conference and replaced with language requiring the 
Department to study the issue. Can you walk us through the need 
for this system?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for the question. I 
am a key advocate for persistent, fixed, 360-degree air and 
missile defense that would be capable of meeting cruise missile 
threats, ballistic missile threats, certainly anything to be a 
cruise missile launched from a bomber, from the land, from the 
sea, and from the air in the region. The structure that is out 
there right now, the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense 
(THAAD) radar, is not capable of meeting the current trajectory 
of threats from China, as I have articulated, nor the size of 
those raids. A persistent capability, given what we are 
observing in the theater, advancements in Chinese capability, 
are critically important, and it must be delivered in a 360-
degree fashion to protect from the kind of activities we are 
seeing China conduct, which is circumnavigations of Guam, the 
Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana, et cetera.
    Most importantly, we all have to understand, Guam is a 
United States territory. We have 170,000 United States citizens 
living on Guam. Their defense is homeland defense. We have 
21,000 U.S. service men and women and DOD employees as well, 
plus their families. It is a deep-water strategic port, major 
fuel stores, munitions stores, command and control. It is a 
major power projection airfield for us in the region. It has 
been evidenced, by me, and displayed by the Chinese, in a 
propaganda video of their own bomber forces attacking Andersen 
Air Force Base on Guam.
    Guam is a target today. It needs to be defended and it 
needs to be prepared for the threats that will come in the 
future, because it is clear to me that Guam is not just a place 
that we believe that we could fight from, as we have for many 
decades. We are going to have to fight for it in order to be 
able to do that.
    Senator Fischer. We've already developed systems that can 
meet this need. Is that right? We are not talking about any 
kind of new development program here, are we?
    Admiral Davidson. In partnership with the Missile Defense 
Agency, we believe that the Aegis Ashore system, as is being 
put to sea right now, and has been constructed previously in 
Romania and Poland, delivers the kind of capabilities that 
would meet the threat that is extant here, by mid-decade, and 
will help us pace the threat into the future. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. We always talk about missile defenses as 
having a deterrence by denial effect. Do you see that applying 
here, and would this make the conflict less likely by 
undermining the adversary's confidence that they could achieve 
their goals?
    Admiral Davidson. Absolutely. We have to demonstrate that 
any ambition that China might have, and any threat it might put 
forth towards Guam, would come at cost, and that would be 
really by the collection of not only this defensive capability, 
which I think is so critical because it prevents a cheap shot, 
but also the rest of the capabilities that I have described in 
the 1251 assessment, which includes some offensive 
capabilities, to let China know that the costs of what they 
seek to do are too high and to give them doubt in their 
success.
    Senator Fischer. Admiral Davidson, in 2018 you testified, 
quote, that ``PACOM only has about a quarter of the 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) it needs 
in the area of responsibility (AOR)''. Does that remain the 
case today? I can say that in visiting with all of our 
combatant commanders there is never enough ISR to meet the 
needs in your area. Is that true? Can you compare what we have 
to the investments that China is making in their ISR?
    Admiral Davidson. We have a continued need for ISR to 
monitor the day-to-day activities in the region, certainly, but 
also to understand Chinese designs in the region, what they are 
doing in the training sphere, and things like that. My ISR 
posture has improved slightly since 2018. There has been some 
action taken in just the last few months to restore some of 
that ISR capability. But if Indo-Pacific Command is indeed the 
priority theater, we need to continue to look at our total 
intelligence apparatus--signals intelligence, communications 
intelligence, our imagery that comes from space, for airborne 
assets and all that we gather there--to make sure that we have 
the warning that is required to get our forces to respond, 
alert our allies and partners, and prevent any kind of Chinese 
external attack in the region.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Admiral. Thank you for your 
service. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Let me recognize 
Senator Gillibrand via Webex.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral, the 
Department of Defense has recently outlined China's military 
strategy known as Military-Civil Fusion, aka Civil-Military 
Integration, to develop the PLA into a world-class military by 
2049. The 2019 DOD report on China stated that, quote, ``China 
uses a variety of methods to acquire foreign military and dual-
use technologies, including targeted foreign direct 
investments, cyber theft, in expectation of private Chinese 
nationals' access to these technologies, as well as harnessing 
its intelligence service, computer intrusions, and other 
illicit approaches.''
    Because these efforts by China will certainly affect 
business and people across the region, what would you recommend 
we work with, with our allies, to counter this strategy while 
maintaining the principles of a free and open Indo-Pacific?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you for your question, Senator. To 
your point, the Chinese Military-Civil Fusion approach, which 
is underpinned by Chinese law that says any state or commercial 
business enterprise with concerns in China must provide any 
information that the state seeks for its benefit. That has made 
for particularly, you know, complex global engagement and 
global economic scenario, I think, for not only the United 
States, but as you said, our allies and partners.
    It has been very important that, you know, laws like 
Foreign Investment Risk Review Modernization Act (FIRRMA), the 
Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) 
process that has been established in the United States, is 
meant to help deny that fusion within China. I know that many 
of our allies and partners in the region have begun to pass 
laws in that direction and are debating them as well.
    Senator Gillibrand. Well, related, in last year's NDAA we 
included language requiring the DOD to look into better 
cooperation with our allies in the Pacific. Specifically, we 
recognized our cooperation is to, quote, ``enhance through more 
proactive planning and cooperation with allies and partners 
that capitalize on each country's comparative strengths.'' The 
study requires determining what comparative advantages our 
allies have and what barriers exist to fully realize them.
    So what barriers did you face in working with our allies, 
and what could Congress to do facilitate these relationships?
    Admiral Davidson. Well, one, there has to be not just an 
explanation from the security side but on the economic side as 
well, you know, complete clarity in what China's military-civil 
fusion threat does to partnered multinational companies and 
things like that, that might have a presence or subsidiaries in 
China. So I think there needs to be, you know, clear dialogue 
about that.
    Transparency and the kind of laws we have passed and the 
rationale for them, like CFIUS and FIRRMA, and we need to drive 
understanding with our allies and partners that this threat is 
real and that if we do not see change from our allies and 
partners that we may have to determine whether many of our 
technologies can be shared with them, to prevent their just 
outright conveyance to China alone.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. I also want to continue on 
this line of question from Senator Shaheen. As new technologies 
have been developed rapidly, and nontraditional threats such as 
COVID and climate change begin to bear greater relevance, it 
has been crucial that we are able to work in a proactive manner 
to coordinate and respond to their allies. What lessons would 
you say the COVID-19 pandemic has taught INDOPACOM about 
coordinating with allies in the face of emerging nontraditional 
and transnational threats? Further, do we balance our approach, 
or how do we balance our approach to these particular threats 
in contrast to the traditional ones that we face in the Indo-
Pacific?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you, Senator. I absolutely agree 
there's opportunity for deepened relationships with our allies 
and partners on transnational issues. This is a whole-of-
government opportunity for us, because, you know, there are 
economic components of the government, law enforcement, health 
and human services, et cetera, when combined with some of the 
capabilities we can bring to deliver, add capacity in 
diagnosing and delivering vaccines, for example, collaborating 
with our allies and partners in the region for those nations in 
need is hugely powerful. I think there should be deepened 
relationships across the whole U.S. Government with their 
counterparts in these other countries.
    I am finding, just, you know, in the transnational threat 
alone, that some nations have legal means and relationships 
with countries that would be incredibly effective to help 
undermine things like Chinese corruption on the Belt and Road 
Initiative, for example. So deepening partnerships there with 
our allies and partners across our whole-of-government I think 
is a key part of the competition that we are all talking about.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Senator 
Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Admiral Davidson, thank you for your 
appearance again here today. Thanks for your service to our 
Nation. I want to talk a little bit about the balance of power 
in the Western Pacific when it comes to missiles. For decades, 
the United States belonged to something called the 
Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, which 
prohibited us and Russia, the only two parties, from building 
ground-based, intermediate-range missiles, roughly speaking 
like 300 to 3,000 miles of range.
    China was never a party to this. That is why they have 
stockpiled thousands of these missiles that, as you have 
testified, can threaten not only our allies in places like 
Taiwan and Japan and South Korea, but also our own troops and 
citizens in places like Guam and other islands in the Western 
Pacific.
    We finally left the INF Treaty a couple of years back, in 
part because Russia was cheating on it for years, in part 
because of this imbalance of power. How important is it that 
the United States continues to build up our missile forces so 
that we can hold China, you know, in deterrence and at risk in 
the Western Pacific?
    Admiral Davidson. I think it is very important, Senator. I 
think a wider base of long-range precision fires, which are 
enabled by all our terrestrial forces, not just sea and air but 
by land forces as well, is critically important to stabilizing 
what is becoming a more unstable environment in the Western 
Pacific.
    I have been encouraged by the enthusiasm by the Army and 
the Marine Corps to embrace some of the capabilities that Navy 
and Air Force have already developed. I think that is a low-
cost way to quick capability that can be fielded potentially in 
the region and I think we ought to stay after it.
    I say to people all the time, missile defense is the 
hardest thing we do, and if I am the manager of a baseball 
team, you know, I could have the best defenses in the world, 
but if I cannot score some runs I cannot win the game. We have 
got to have offensive capabilities that threaten--you know, 
that cause a potential adversary to think twice about any 
malign activities that they might take in the region, 
militarily, and that is where offensive fires come into play.
    Senator Cotton. To drive this home again, the importance of 
ground-based precision fires. The Navy and the Air Force have 
great capabilities, but you can only put so many missiles on a 
ship or on an aircraft. Ground-based fires allow you to build 
up a stockpile, the same way China has done on its mainland, 
where they have thousands of missiles aimed at Taiwan or Japan 
or Guam, and that is one reason why it is so important to 
continue to build up those ground-based fires. Is that correct?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, Senator. The U.S. fights as a joint 
force, and long-range precision fires delivered to the ground 
force I think are critically important to enhance the maneuver 
and positional advantage of U.S. forces in the theater.
    Senator Cotton. Let's turn from missiles to payloads. Do 
you agree with Admiral Richard at Strategic Command that China 
could triple or even quadruple its nuclear weapon stockpile in 
the years ahead?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir, I do.
    Senator Cotton. Presumably, if they are going to build all 
those nuclear warheads they are also going to build the 
delivery systems for those warheads as well. Correct?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. They have quadrupled their 
nuclear capability since the turn of the century and they will 
at least double it during the course of this decade, and I have 
seen the same estimates that Admiral Richard is talking about.
    Senator Cotton. Whereas the United States, because we just 
gave a no-strings-attached extension to the New Strategic Army 
Reduction Treaty (START), is limited to 800 deployed nuclear 
weapons. So China, unconstrained by this treaty, if they triple 
or quadruple their stockpile, could possibly have nuclear 
overmatch against the United States before the end of this 
decade. Is that correct?
    Admiral Davidson. If they were to quadruple their 
stockpile, yes, sir.
    Senator Cotton. When you combine the strategic forces of 
both Russia and China, then they certainly would have overmatch 
against the United States when it comes to our nuclear arsenal.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. It is very expensive and hard work to win 
an arms race, but it is much better to win an arms race than to 
lose a war.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator 
Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that 
the thrust of this hearing and your testimony is to emphasize 
the ongoing and increasing threat and danger of Chinese 
military buildup and potential aggression. We have been 
talking, I guess, mainly about the conventional threats and 
nuclear threats, but recently the Chinese launched a 
cyberattack on this country. What should the American public 
know about that attack involving Microsoft, recently disclosed?
    Admiral Davidson. I am sorry. I will have to take that one 
for the record, sir. I have not had direct conversations with 
Microsoft about that.
    Senator Blumenthal. Would you agree that China represents a 
threat in the cyber domain?
    Admiral Davidson. Oh, absolutely.
    Senator Blumenthal. Would you agree also that what you just 
said about nuclear capacity applies to cyber as well, namely 
that defense is not enough. You need offense and you need to 
draw lines so that adversaries will know what they cannot do, 
lines they cannot cross, and offense is necessary to deter them 
from crossing those lines.
    Admiral Davidson. I absolutely agree, Senator. China is 
advancing its cyber capability in leaps and bounds. I do not 
think I could articulate it in a quantified manner like the 
discussion we just had with Senator Cotton. But they are vastly 
improving that cyber capabilities, and we are witnessing some 
of that malign activity amongst our own capabilities here in 
the country, as you implied.
    Senator Blumenthal. Do you continue to believe, as you said 
in 2019, shifting to another domain, the undersea domain, that, 
quote, ``Continuing to build submarines is critically 
important,'' end quote, and, quote, ``It is our most 
significant advantage in all domains right now,'' end quote, 
referring to submarines.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. Our advantage in the undersea, 
our submarine force, absolutely. But also what we can do in 
what we call anti-submarine warfare to deny other nations use, 
and that is the use of maritime patrol aircraft, that is the 
kind of sonars and sensors we put on our surface ships, we have 
to absolutely sustain that advantage going forward.
    Senator Blumenthal. So you would strongly endorse, I hope, 
the continued construction of two Virginia-class submarines a 
year, and the continued development and construction of the 
Columbia-class as well?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. The Virginia-class, what is 
coming with the Virginia payload module, I think are critically 
important to continue U.S. deterrence in the theater, and there 
is no doubt that the strategic deterrent needs to be 
recapitalized, and the Columbia is the way to do that for our 
Ohio-class submarines.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. You know, I would like to 
turn to a nontraditional source of concern, first of all, the 
COVID pandemic. I understand that the ship, the USS Theodore 
Roosevelt has had several coronavirus cases recently, following 
the outbreak that occurred. Is that true? To what extent is 
COVID a continuing danger in your command?
    Admiral Davidson. Thanks for that, Senator. Yes, a few 
weeks ago the Theodore Roosevelt identified three positive 
cases out of their normal surveillance testing. Those three 
positive cases were sent ashore in Guam. There were some 40-odd 
close contacts that were in quarantine. They have continued to 
test negative in that time frame, and the ship remains at sea, 
and continues at sea. In the meantime, we have tested the whole 
of the crew and there are no other positive cases.
    Senator Blumenthal. So it is a relatively contained, 
isolated outbreak.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. Yeah, the three positive cases 
are off the ship and ashore at this point.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, and in the closing short 
time I have left, do you regard climate change as a security 
threat in the command that is under your control?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. It is something I hear about 
quite frequently from my peers, particularly in the Pacific 
Island chain, who can describe for you, during the course of 
their own lifetimes, you know, the changes that they observe 
and have observed in their island nations.
    Much of what we do at Indo-Pacific Command helps enable 
their ability to combat some of the ill effects that are 
immediately manifested, whether it is severe storm. We have an 
organization called the Center for Excellence in Disaster 
Management that helps train not only our military folks, 
certifying my own military folks to do disaster management, but 
we make it available to non-governmental organizations as well 
as other governments, and we do it virtually, we do it in 
person, we bring them to Hawaii, all kinds of methods. It is 
very important for us.
    Senator Blumenthal. I thank you for your testimony today 
and for your service to our Nation. I am not going to be able 
to follow up now on the climate change question but I will 
submit more for the record. Thank you, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
Admiral, for your service. You mentioned about deterrence 
eroding in the region, and in your testimony this morning in 
the classified session and then also in this focused on the 
Pacific Deterrence Initiative. That was a bipartisan initiative 
that came out of this Committee, actually. So I think most of 
the Members of this Committee, Democrats and Republicans, are 
certainly supportive.
    So is it your testimony today that you need full funding of 
that $4.6 billion as something that can help with regard to 
this eroding deterrence? Can you explain about that a little 
bit more?
    Admiral Davidson. I would say absolutely yes, sir. I think 
it fulfills what the law has asked for in the entablement of 
the PDI.
    Senator Sullivan. That was in last year's NDAA, so we all 
agreed to it.
    Admiral Davidson. In last year's NDAA, and meets the 
strategic vision that I have in the theater to present a 
conventional deterrent that would give China pause from any 
malign military activity that they would undergo against any of 
our allies and partners in the region.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, I really appreciate that. If there 
was one kind of takeaway from this hearing, you have the Indo-
Pacific Commander, the entire Armed Services Committee, the 
NDAA, all pushing for this. I certainly hope the Biden 
administration is focused on this hearing and recognizes that 
they should fully fund the PDI, which is what most of us wanted 
and what we all voted for last year when we passed the NDAA.
    Let me next talk about the issue of the force posture in 
the region. You know, I just started my second term here as a 
senator and I was asked, 6 years ago, by our former chairman of 
this Committee, Senator McCain, to really focus on this issue 
of force posture, which I have been doing a lot. I just got 
home from Alaska, so that is actually being out in the region, 
as you know, when I am home in the great state of Alaska.
    One of the things I have noticed is that our force posture 
seems to be somewhat, I would say, stale, when you look at 
where our forces are--Okinawa, Korea, Guam--because they have 
been there for so long, and we have this issue that you have 
talked about, first and second island chain, the 
vulnerabilities. What is the right mix as you look at dispersal 
of forces, wanting them to be there quickly, in the region, but 
also the vulnerabilities that you have, first, second island 
chain?
    I will give you an example. Alaska will soon have over 100 
fifth-generation fighters stationed there. If you have the 
right mix of tankers, those assets could be in, for example, 
the South China Sea or Taiwan Strait within hours, with the 
right tankers. How do you think about dispersal of forces and 
the different vulnerabilities that we have when it comes to 
force posture?
    Admiral Davidson. Thanks, Senator. I think about it much 
like I have described in the Regain the Advantage, that a more 
dispersed design and posture in the region is going to be 
required in order to achieve the positional advantages that we 
seek. That is done through permanently based forward-deployed 
forces--Japan, Korea, Guam, and elsewhere in the theater--and 
the use of contiguous United States-based forces, Hawaii and 
Alaska forces, that will rotate through the theater.
    That combination of rotating presence and permanent 
presence has to be robust enough in order buy us the time to 
deny any quick action going forward. That is a mix of 
capabilities, and certainly the fifth-gen fighters, I would 
tell you, are the backbone of any of our planning for a crisis 
forward in the theater, and would be needed at dispersed 
locations within the first and second island chain.
    But it also means maritime forces, it means ISR, you know, 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance forces, things 
like that, that have to be made available as well.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask, you know, when I talk to 
officials, and I would love your view on this, our intel 
community, the common theme I hear with regard to China's 
actions under Xi Jinping's leadership is alarm. That is a 
phrase that is used a lot--alarm, and they point to things, 
just within the last year, the COVID outbreak and the non-
cooperation that China has had with the rest of the world; the 
border conflict with India, and cyberattacks that were probably 
launched by China against India, major cyberattacks; an 
economic embargo against one of our most important allies in 
the region, Australia; crushing dissent in Hong Kong; very 
aggressive military actions in the Taiwan Strait, South China 
Sea; Japan's exclusive economic zone (EEZ). Do you agree these 
are alarming maneuvers? This is within the last year.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir.
    Senator Sullivan. What does this kind of do to your 
timeline if you are extrapolating out with regard to any 
potential conflict or timeline in the Taiwan Strait, when you 
look at how aggressive Xi Jinping's leadership has been?
    Admiral Davidson. I think our concerns are manifest here 
during this decade, not only on the development, the numbers 
of, you know, ships, aircraft, rockets, et cetera, that they 
have put in the field, but the way they are advancing those 
capabilities as well, in combination with everything that you 
just cited--Hong Kong, Xinjiang, and Tibet, and the Line of 
Actual Control, and the South China Sea and the East China Sea. 
I worry that they are accelerating their ambitions to supplant 
the United States, and our leadership role in the rules-based 
international order, which they have long said that they want 
to do that by 2050, I am worried about them moving that target 
closer. Taiwan is clearly one of their ambitions before then, 
and I think the threat is manifest during this decade, in fact, 
in the next 6 years.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Admiral. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Let me 
recognize Senator Hirono via Webex.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Davidson, 
welcome. This is probably going to be the last time that you 
will be testifying before our Committee, so I want to add my 
thanks to you for your service, and, of course, we will miss 
you in Hawaii.
    Admiral Davidson, do you support Homeland Defense Radar-
Hawaii as an important part of the region's layered missile 
defense system to protect Hawaii from long-range missiles fired 
from rogue states such as North Korea?
    Admiral Davidson. Absolutely, Senator. It raises the 
confidence of any employment of a ground-based interceptor, and 
will help as any advancement in North Korean capabilities might 
put forth. It is critically important to the overall defense of 
the country.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. You focused on two areas in your 
recent PDI report that, in my opinion, are vital to our 
national security strategy in the Indo-Pacific area. One, 
strengthening our allies and partners, and two, funding joint 
coalition military exercises and updating and networking our 
tests and training ranges in this area of responsibility, 
including two major training areas in Hawaii, the Pacific 
Missile Range Facility, or PMRF, and the Pohakuloa Training 
Area, PTA.
    I noticed that you significantly increased the requested 
amount from last year's PDI report to this year's report to 
strengthen our allies and partners over the next 5 years in the 
region, from over $300 million to about $2.8 billion. Can you 
discuss your rationale for this significant increase and what 
that additional funding is intended to do, or where will it go?
    Admiral Davidson. Well, you highlighted the key aspects, 
ma'am. It is to enhance and make improvements in our joint 
exercise program, and that is principally because not only the 
United States but our key allies and partners--Japan, Korea, 
Australia, as just three examples--are buying important 
capabilities that match ours--integrated air and missile 
defense, for example, fifth-generation fighters like the F-35. 
They are being actually delivered in the theater.
    We have got to advance our exercise program in a way that 
allows us to exercise those capabilities deliberately. That is 
going to require not only changes in our joint exercise 
program, and I will come back to that in a minute, but also 
changes in our range structures, to make sure that we can put 
forth the threats in a live, virtual, constructive format, that 
will stress the force and stress a coalition force, if it were 
to come about.
    But additionally, that joint exercise program needs to be 
improved to do precisely what Senator Sullivan was talking 
about, to help us put more robust forces quickly in the field, 
to test them under concepts like contested logistics, in which 
we might have our cyber connectivity restricted and things like 
that. We have really got to advance from what I view as kind of 
20th Century exercises into the 21st century capabilities and 
concerns we need to be worried about.
    Senator Hirono. I assume that some of the money that you 
are requesting to enhance or exercise capabilities will, of 
course, go to PMRF and PTA in Hawaii.
    News reports have indicated that around 15 percent of the 
persons involved in the recent riots at the Capitol had 
military experience, either currently or were on active duty, 
retired, or recently separated. Secretary Austin recently order 
a 60-day stand-down to address troubling reports of extremism 
in the ranks, and the DOJ IG is currently investigating violent 
extremism within the armed forces after myself and several of 
my colleagues sent a letter asking for action.
    As you finish over 35 years of service, Admiral Davidson, 
in your opinion, are there steps, other steps that the DOD 
should take to root out violent extremism in the ranks?
    Admiral Davidson. Well, I think certainly, Senator, the 
stand-down was intended just to be the first step on this. 
There is absolutely no place for extremism in the United States 
military.
    I can tell you, at my own headquarters, we have already 
conducted the stand-down. We came together not only to have the 
leadership discuss what our expectations are, which is, you 
know, well guided by DOD instruction alone, you know, beyond 
the oath, but also to bring in other experts. We even had the 
Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI's) Joint Terrorism Task 
Force come in to talk to us about the kind of behaviors we 
might see, as leaders and as peers, and as subordinates and 
others, that might indicate extremist behaviors. We also 
recommitted to our oaths, and then we broke down to small 
groups.
    We are going to have to continue to communicate on this 
with the force, to make sure that our expectations are well 
known. There is just absolutely no place for that in the United 
States military.
    Senator Hirono. I am considering legislation to create a 
standalone punitive article in the Uniform Code of Military 
Justice to address violent extremism in the ranks, and to send 
a message of deterrence that this kind of conduct will not be 
tolerated in the military. Do you think that this kind of 
legislation is warranted?
    Admiral Davidson. I think it should be certainly part of 
the discussion to examine. You know, I would have to defer to 
the Department, ma'am, about the approaches that we would take 
going forward.
    Senator Hirono. Yeah. I just want to note that there are 
certain entities such as the Oathkeepers who actively recruit 
from the military to join their extremist ranks.
    I think I am out of time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Let me recognize 
now Senator Tillis.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Davidson, 
thank you for being here and for your years of service. Just a 
question, and I apologize. I have three hearings going on at 
the same time, so if someone has covered this it probably still 
bears repeating.
    Talking specifically about protection of U.S. troops and 
bases in Indo-Pacific and our low-density, high-demand 
rotational capabilities are what we are relying on today. So if 
China were to initiate a kinetic operation somewhere in the 
Indo-Pacific, do you believe the relatively short notice and 
the warning timelines would make it particularly either very 
difficult or virtually impossible to defend critical locations 
like Guam?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. One of the reasons that we have 
made a point of advocating for sufficient ISR--intelligence, 
surveillance, reconnaissance--that buys us that warning in 
order to respond, is critically important. We have capacity 
needs there, and our war gaming has shown that if it is 
insufficient we cannot respond in time.
    Senator Tillis. In the INDOPACOM report, section 1251 of 
the fiscal year 2021 NDAA, you all state, ``The most important 
action the U.S. can take to increase joint forces' lethality is 
to introduce a 360-degree persistent and integrated air defense 
capability in Guam. Guam is our most crucial operating location 
in the Western Pacific and its defense remains the number one 
unfunded priority.'' I think you are requesting somewhere 
around $350 million for that purpose.
    Can you explain how China's missile arsenal threatens 
Taiwan and why Guam is so important to defend, and how a 
missile defense system permanently stationed in Guam, would 
help towards that end?
    Admiral Davidson. I think the most visible means that we 
have seen is China's own air force has put out a propaganda 
video showing their H-6 bomber force attacking Andersen Air 
Force Base at Guam, and distributed that quite publicly. We are 
seeing Chinese naval deployments of surface task groups and 
submarines that make circumnavigations of Guam and the 
Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, and, of course, you 
know, we see the vast asymmetry, the very large ballistic 
missile force that China has.
    As one component of our deterrence strategy, but again, my 
number one priority, because it has been unfunded and I think 
critical to our needs, is a defensive system that would defend 
against all those threats. In our work with the Missile Defense 
Agency, only one system can do that, meet the threats as they 
will be evident in mid-century, and help us leap to the future 
as well, and that is an Aegis Ashore-like system there on Guam.
    You know, I am not Pollyanna-ish about this. It is not the 
sole solution. We had discussions about offense capabilities, 
earlier warning, the ability to disperse fighter aircraft--all 
that is critical components as well. But I have been very 
encouraged by the individual services' transformation 
approaches, what their support is in the theater, but one of 
the key shortcomings is not having this defensive system, and 
we need it going forward.
    Senator Tillis. Maybe in my time remaining you can talk a 
little bit about the need for permanently stationed forces in 
the region. Do you think it is adequate now? I think the answer 
is no, but what does it look like if we were at some level of 
critical mass with actually personnel west of the International 
Date Line?
    Admiral Davidson. Because so much dialogue would have to 
happen with allies and partners in the region, sir, although 
there is one modification in effect that would result in more 
troops, Marines, actually relocating from Japan to Guam and 
elsewhere, I am pretty satisfied with the permanent stationing 
of forces in the region right now.
    If situation were to avail us, I think more capabilities in 
Southeast Asia and South Asia would be a priority. But in the 
meantime, what is achievable is to help with dispersal 
locations and with the accommodation of rotational forces 
within U.S. territories and the freely associated states in the 
region, principally, as well as our key allies in the region.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Admiral.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and Admiral Davidson, 
I want to echo Senator Hirono's comments. We will miss you. I 
have really enjoyed working with you, being on this Committee, 
and in your various capacities.
    You answered a number of great questions this morning in 
our classified briefing that my colleagues put on the table and 
so I am not going to repeat those.
    In your military judgment, would it be in the United 
States' security interest if we were to ratify the U.N. 
Conference on Law of the Sea?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. I am on record saying that that 
would be good for us. I think you would be hard-pressed to find 
a Navy admiral that's said otherwise.
    Senator Kaine. The convention would allow us to assert, for 
example, defensive claims in international tribunals to Chinese 
island-building or Russian activity in the Arctic, and it would 
also allow us to assert some offensive claims to, for example, 
mineral rights in the Arctic, that we cannot currently do. I 
would hope that the Committee might revisit whether we should 
finally do this, to try to gain a better footing in the 
INDOPACOM and elsewhere.
    Second, with respect to China and the competition with 
China, as much as they are worried about any innovation, 
weapons system that the United States is developing, wouldn't 
you say that in some way their greatest worry about the U.S. is 
the network of allies and alliances we have, in their region 
and elsewhere?
    Admiral Davidson. Absolutely. I think the network of 
alliances, the partnerships that we have, not only in the 
region but across the globe, are hugely powerful, and the 
potential of deepening relationships strategic to defense 
partnership with a country like India, or in a multilateral 
formation like the Quad--India, United States, Japan, and 
Australia--I think is a key strategic opportunity for the 
United States, and those three other countries. But it could be 
so much more than just a security apparatus, and I think we 
ought to be thinking about it in terms of all the capabilities 
that it might help the globe with.
    Senator Kaine. It is interesting because I think China and 
Russia, though very different nations, both are very afraid of 
the United States' network of alliances, and they have not yet 
been able to cobble together the kinds of alliances that are 
based upon mutual regard and mutual work. You know, China uses 
debt diplomacy to get folks in hock to them, but that is not 
the same thing as a significant alliance, and Russia uses, you 
know, availability of natural gas in sort of the same way. But 
the networks of alliances, they just are not anywhere near 
where we are.
    So I hope as we are trying to maintain strategic match or 
overmatch in tactical weapons systems, we never lose sight of 
the fact that strengthening alliances is ultimately about the 
best guarantee we have against aggression by China.
    The last question I will ask you is this. Sometimes on this 
Committee, and in Congress generally, we get into a mindset 
where we think about the defense budget as very different than 
the non-defense budget, and on budgetary matters we assume that 
the sort of non-defense budget is not as critical in national 
security as the defense budget. I was struck by your testimony 
in the classified setting this morning--this is not classified. 
Again and again you said it is not just defense. If we are 
going to be strong in the INDOPACOM, vis-a-vis China, it has 
got to be defense, and diplomacy, and humanitarian aid, and 
trade, and economic aid. These are items that are not included 
in the defense budget but I gather you think they are every bit 
as important to maintaining a robust American presence and 
leadership in the INDOPACOM, they are as important as the 
defense budget.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir. When I engage with any of the 
countries in the region, whether they are an ally or it is part 
of the partner network, their assessment of U.S. reliability is 
not based on the military presence alone. It is based on our 
interactions, diplomatically, in the information sphere, where 
we are economically, our foreign direct investment, our trade. 
All those elements is how the allies and partners want to 
engage with the United States and how they view our 
reliability.
    Indeed, to do a competition like we are talking about with 
China, it is going to take a whole-of-nation approach, not just 
a whole-of-government approach, and all of those elements come 
into play.
    Senator Kaine. One program that I was not really aware of, 
but I am sure other Members of the Committee were, the 
Department of Interior has a program that provides financial 
assistance to American Samoa, Guam, Virgin Islands, 
Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands, and the freely 
associated states of the Federated States of Micronesia, 
Republic of Marshall Islands, and Palau. The compact with Palau 
will expire in 2024. These are non-defense budget items within 
Interior, but they can have a significant effect upon this 
question that you mentioned, our reliability, which is really, 
really important.
    So as if we did not have enough work to do on this 
Committee, we have to also pay attention to the non-defense 
budgetary items that are strong evidence of America's desire to 
be a leader in the region.
    Again, thank you, Admiral Davidson. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Let me recognize 
Senator Cramer via Webex.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Admiral, for your service and for being with us today. This has 
been most interesting.
    I am going to drill down maybe a little bit on some of the 
things related to the allies and their trust in us and how we 
build a stronger alliance of free people that are concerned 
about China. I do not think there is any question China is the 
topic of the day in lots of places, not just here. But I also 
know that a lot of these matters get out there on the fringe a 
little bit, sometimes things we may not think about.
    So I want to ask you specifically, there was a recent 
Reuters story that said Iran has quietly moved record amounts 
of crude oil to its top client, of course, China, in recent 
months, at the same time that India, India's state refineries 
added Iranian oil to their annual import plans on the 
assumption that the United States is going to lift their 
sanctions.
    Does INDOPACOM, do you guys track Iranian oil shipments 
within your area of responsibility, and if so, does that 
information get back to the Pentagon, the White House, 
decision-makers that are making lots of big decisions about 
things domestically and around the world that might have an 
impact on our relationships?
    Admiral Davidson. Certainly, Senator. We track the Iranian 
trans-shipment of oil across the theater. You know, the 
interactions with China are indicative of China's willingness 
to ignore sanctions and international norms to do that kind of 
thing.
    Senator Cramer. But with regard to India, then, do you see 
a risk if we lift the sanctions on Iran, that they are able to 
now sell oil to an important ally, I mean, obviously very much 
in the region. I am just, again, thinking about all of the 
relationships and all of the factors that enter into the 
relationship. I know I am asking you now to probably opine on a 
policy question as opposed to whether or not you are tracking 
it. But it seems to me that these decisions, things like 
lifting sanctions on Iran, could have ramifications that we 
maybe have not thought of yet. If you want to comment, you can. 
Otherwise, I can move on.
    Admiral Davidson. No. Sir, it is an important policy issue 
for the United States. Iran is, no doubt, a net exporter of oil 
and it will have to be considered.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you. I want to follow up on a line of 
questioning that Senator Fischer asked as well, about ISR and 
the importance of it, and I will probably just skip some of the 
easy stuff that she was asking about, easy for me, not 
necessarily for you.
    I will just ask this. Adding on to her line of questioning, 
do you think that the sale of ISR platforms to allies in the 
region might help our ISR needs in the region? In other words, 
I know that there have been some restrictions, there are some 
sales pending, there is, I know, a lot of desire by both allies 
and some of our American contractors. Could we help the ISR 
picture a little bit by opening up sales, maybe speeding them 
up a little bit to allies in the region?
    Admiral Davidson. I would say it depends on some of the 
exact capabilities that we are talking about. But I will tell 
you, broadly, we share information with our allies in the 
region and many, many partners. They benefit from the 
information that we generate. I can tell you, in the East China 
Sea, in the South China Sea, we, the United States benefit from 
much of what our allies and partners do there as well.
    So it would certainly add capacity to the picture, and as 
we deepen our information-sharing agreements, which is 
dependent on a lot of factors, we will share that information 
amongst us. It is going to make us better.
    Senator Cramer. I do not know if you are hearing me but I 
stopped hearing you suddenly. I will ask one more question, in 
case you are listening and can hear it, and it is a pretty 
basic one. Do you consider China a developing country or a 
developed country? That is a question I just started exploring. 
What is the difference, whether we consider it developing or 
developed?
    Admiral Davidson. Sir, I imagine economists, you know, have 
a standard for that description. I mean, certainly they have 
lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty just since 
the turn of the century, but I would say that they still have 
hundreds of millions to go. But I would have to defer to an 
economist to give you the exact characterization.
    Senator Cramer. Yeah, and you are right. There are some 
standards that economists use relating to, you know, gross 
versus net and all these economic points. They are relevant--do 
not get me wrong. But what I am more concerned about is how the 
rest of the world treats a developing nation versus a developed 
nation, and I guess I would submit to you whether they are 
considered developed or in transition, they are, as the 
chairman said in his opening comments, an emerging threat and a 
near-peer ally prepared for some pretty serious confrontations.
    So anyway, all of that said, again, thank you for your 
service and thank you for being with us today, and I see my 
time is up, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer. Let me recognize 
Senator King.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral, you spent a 
lot of time in this region in the last several years. You have 
thought a lot about China, as you have indicated today. Here is 
a kind of mind-reading question. Why are they militarizing? Why 
are they suddenly spending so much money? Is it because of 
paranoia about being attacked or is it because of preparing for 
aggression? Do you see the difference?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, sir, absolutely. I appreciate the 
question. That is exactly the issue at hand. I see them 
developing systems, capabilities, and a posture that would 
indicate that they are interested in aggression, and what they 
have committed, in their nearest abroad--Hong Kong, Line of 
Actual Control, Xinjiang, the kind of pressure they are putting 
on Tibet and others in the region--I think it is dramatically 
misplaced. The West has greatly assisted in the development of 
China, to the last conversation that we have had, over the 
course of the last 35 years or so. I cannot, for the life of 
me, understand some of the capabilities that they are putting 
in the field unless it is an aggressive posture, and frankly, I 
think they have told us that with their ambition to supplant 
the rules-based international order and replace it with one 
with Chinese characteristics, which they said they intend to do 
by mid-century.
    Senator King. I think that is a key question we have to 
continue to examine--what does China want?
    Next question. What do you see, strategically, militarily, 
technically, in terms of cooperation between Russia and China? 
In the '50s and '60s, they were considered a monolith. Then 
they split. Are they moving toward a greater degree of 
cooperation? Is that something we should be concerned about?
    Admiral Davidson. In a tactical and operational space I 
have seen some collaboration there. China has participated in 
Russia's Pacific/Eastern Military District capstone exercise 
for three straight years. We have seen co-bomber flights as 
recently as last fall, where Chinese and Russian bombers joined 
on each other and flew through the Sea of Japan, East China 
Sea, and into the Philippine Sea. We are seeing some exchanges 
like that.
    I think that there is less cooperation, although frequent 
discussion, at the strategic level. Through all of it, I view 
it with some alarm. While we could consider some of the 
tactical and operational cooperation nascent, they are building 
towards improvement. There is no doubt in my mind.
    Senator King. Which it seems to me, if that continues is a 
matter of serious concern.
    Admiral Davidson. I would agree, absolutely.
    Senator King. Developing a higher level of cooperation.
    Speaking of alliances, I spent some time in Asia a few 
years ago and met, bilaterally, with a whole range of countries 
in that region. I came away with the conclusion, we have 
allies; China has customers. One of my questions is, you have 
mentioned India several times. India has always been a neutral 
country, if you will. Are we developing a stronger alliance 
with them? You mentioned them as part of the Quad. Do they 
consider themselves a member of something of that nature?
    Admiral Davidson. India has long had an approach called 
strategic autonomy, you know, a non-aligned approach with 
others. But I think certainly the activities along the Line of 
Actual Control with China has opened their eyes to what 
cooperative effort with others might mean for their own 
defensive needs. We have provided some information to India in 
that crisis--cold weather closing, clothing, some other 
equipment, some things like that--and over the last several 
years we have been deepening our maritime cooperation.
    I think you will see India, in the very near term, you 
know, remain committed to their non-aligned approach, but I 
think they will deepen their engagement with the Quad, and I 
think that is a key strategic opportunity for us, Australia, 
and Japan.
    Senator King. That would be a geopolitical major 
development if India were closely aligned with those other 
countries.
    One final short question. My concern is accidental 
conflict. A destroyer is in the South China Sea. A Chinese 
pilot miscalculates and runs into the destroyer. There is 
escalation from there. What do we have in place in the way of 
mil-to-mil contact or other mechanisms for defusing accidental 
conflict? Some very serious worldwide conflicts have begun with 
accidents.
    Admiral Davidson. Thanks, Senator, for that. You know, 
first, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and all of our service 
chiefs, as well as the Secretary of Defense, have routine 
communications with their counterparts in China. There is no 
doubt about it. But I would assure you that, you know, 99.xx 
percent of the encounters we have with the Chinese, at sea and 
in the air, are safe and professional. That goes down all the 
way to the communications that transpire between our two 
nations when we are occupying the same tactical space. Those 
remain safe and professional.
    The repeated narrative of miscalculation, you know, was 
really borne from China, because I hear it through diplomatic 
means. They are threatening other nations of a miscalculation 
in order to deter us from doing what is rightfully the 
international operations that we do in the East China Sea and 
South China Sea. We will continue to endeavor to keep our 
aviators and our mariners properly informed of the risks that 
were out there. But make no mistake about it, our expectation 
is that China conduct themselves safe and professionally at 
sea, and should going forward.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Admiral.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Scott, 
please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman Reed. Admiral, thank you 
for your service and the men and women you command for what 
they do every day to defend the freedom of this country.
    My first question is about Taiwan. I think you agree that 
we have got to prevent Communist China from controlling Taiwan. 
It is a strategic necessity for the United States, and the loss 
would devastate our ability and the ability of Japan to counter 
China's aggression. You agree with that, right?
    Admiral Davidson. As a combatant commander out there in the 
Indo-Pacific, I have an obligation to support the Taiwan 
Relations Act, and in a geostrategic sense I think it is 
critically important to the United States' global status, yes.
    Senator Scott. I introduce the Taiwan Invasion Prevention 
Act to end the United States strategic ambiguity about Taiwan. 
I think it is time for the United States to state clearly that 
we are not going to allow Communist China to invade and subdue 
Taiwan, and that both in Taiwan and the United States we have 
got to invest the right resources--weapons, training, and 
dialogue--to ensure that General Secretary Xi understand that 
he is not going to gain anything.
    So what are your thoughts on that?
    Admiral Davidson. Sir, I wake up every day, you know, 
trying to assess the dynamic nature of the geostrategic 
environment, and, you know, frankly, we ought to be thinking 
about these things every day. I would submit that we have got 
more than 40 years of the strategic ambiguity has helped keep 
Taiwan in its current status. But, you know, these things 
should be reconsidered routinely. I would look forward to the 
conversation.
    Senator Scott. Do you feel comfortable that both the United 
States and Taiwan are moving forward in a manner that they are 
going to be able to defend, with our support, if there was an 
invasion?
    Admiral Davidson. I think it takes our continued support, 
Senator, and key to that is consistent and persistent arms 
sales to Taiwan in order for them to continue their capability 
going forward.
    Senator Scott. How much effort or time do you put into 
Indonesia, and can they be a check on Communist China's 
aggression?
    Admiral Davidson. I am sorry. Could you say the question 
again?
    Senator Scott. On Indonesia, can they be much of a check on 
Communist China's aggression?
    Admiral Davidson. I have cooperative efforts with 
Indonesia, in the maritime especially, and a deepening 
relationship. We do a number of exercises together. I would say 
Indonesia is very concerned about Chinese activities, 
particularly when they infringe in or around the waters of 
Indonesia going forward, and I think that Indonesia is an 
opportunity for the United States to deepen our relationship 
with. With China, it is just one of the things we need to be 
thinking about together.
    Senator Scott. How well is the ability to communicate being 
done with our allies there, whether it is Taiwan or South Korea 
or Japan? I mean, like what Senator King was talking about, the 
chance that there would be an inadvertent mistake, and is there 
the ability to, even on our side, share information well enough 
to help prevent something?
    Admiral Davidson. We proposed, in our 1241 assessment for 
the PDI, a multi-partner environment, which is information 
technology (IT) that I think would raise the surety of the 
cybersecurity of what we transmit back and forth between our 
allies and partners in the region. It would enable us to, as 
well, not only protect information but deepen collaboration on 
key strategic and military issues like this as well, yes.
    Senator Scott. How well is Huawei or other companies, 
Chinese companies, been able to infiltrate the communications 
systems in these countries that we rely on as allies? Or are we 
giving China the ability to be able to shut down communications 
pretty easily, which would impact our own ability for our 
military to discuss things with our allies?
    Admiral Davidson. That is certainly something that we have 
to be on the lookout for. We have been deeply engaged over a 
couple, 3 years about the vulnerability that Huawei equipments 
would present in any kind of allied structure. To be frank, 
given what I know of the threat I would want to withhold any 
information-sharing or equipments that would rely on that.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Let me now call on 
Senator Peters via Webex.
    Senator Peters. Admiral, thank you for being with us today. 
Thank you for your continued service to our country, as well. I 
appreciate all of your efforts.
    Admiral, Chinese hostility towards Taiwan and of aggression 
in the South China Sea and certainly the military growth that 
we are seeing from the Chinese requires a conventional 
deterrent. But unrestricted warfare also requires comprehensive 
deterrence, as you know. I think Admiral Mullen described it as 
``two challenges and one fleet.''
    So to my question to you, Admiral, is, where do information 
warfare and low-intensity conflict fit into your priorities 
within your command? I ask because the PDI does not appear to 
project growth for the Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific (JTFIP), 
and the question, is it simply a low-cost endeavor or does it 
reflect a more limited role in the overall strategy that you 
are pursuing?
    Admiral Davidson. Well, it is not meant to be a limited 
role at all, Senator. I do think it is a low-cost effort. That 
said, much of what we have accomplished with Joint Task Force 
Indo-Pacific, looking backwards, in the years past, has been 
taken out of hide in order to properly man it and equip it. I 
am trying to round out the investments there so that the 
shortcomings I have taken in the rest of the portfolio, you 
know, that JTFIP does not come at that expense into the future. 
But I think it is actually key to our deterrent approach going 
forward.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Admiral. You know, a partner of 
government that shares our view on regional security landscape, 
that may not necessarily reflect the majority view of its own 
society, even when it is combined with security cooperation, so 
a constant tension for those governments. So my question is 
related to how INDOPACOM can actually bridge this gap through 
civil-military initiatives. So my question for you, Admiral is, 
to what extent do you see initiatives such as Pacific Angel and 
the Embassy Civil-Military Support elements playing a role in 
your command strategy towards China, specifically?
    Admiral Davidson. I think they are key efforts as well, 
Senator. We were talking earlier about a whole-of-nation 
approach to meet these challenges, and those two organizations 
you highlighted help knit together multi-agency efforts in that 
particular regard.
    Senator Peters. So a U.S. Army Pacific element, Task Force 
Oceana, has a continuous presence on ten Pacific islands, using 
two-person augmentation teams that kind of shape the physical 
and the informational environments in those places. How do you 
believe we can better enable these units to make sure that our 
strategic message is having the impact that we would like it to 
have?
    Admiral Davidson. Well, it is an element in my 1251 request 
for the PDI. We call it Operation Pacific Resolve writ large. 
But the proper resourcing of it is to do precisely what you 
have asked for, to deepen, first, our interagency 
relationships, and then, as well, to deepen our partnerships 
with other nations on matters of concern to those other 
nations, because that is really the basis of our relationships 
across the region. The Army's involvement, and indeed, all the 
service components have an approach out here that is very 
similar. Their execution of it is critical to our overall 
strategy in the region, and frankly, it is the day-to-day 
connectivity with counterparts on the ground, in the air, and 
in the maritime, and all those places.
    Senator Peters. Well, thank you, Admiral. I appreciate 
those responses. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Peters. Now let 
me recognize Senator Blackburn via Webex.
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    Chairman Reed. It appears that we have some communications 
issues, and I will recognize Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral, thank 
you for your testimony today. I am glad to hear you call it 
Indo-Pacific. You know, I am sure China would prefer we not use 
that word because of a democracy and how big of an ally they 
are for us. I have heard several people, even in this building, 
call it something else.
    But, you know, we heard for years the United States needs 
to turn its attention to the Indo-Pacific, and the U.S. has 
invested $20 billion since 2014 in the European Deterrence 
Initiative, but we have not done much in the Pacific.
    Here are my questions. Explain very briefly, the Aegis 
Ashore system. Could you explain that, explain the Aegis Ashore 
system? Could you explain that?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you for the question, Senator. 
Aegis Ashore is a system that has, in fact, already been 
developed. We have built and are employing one actually already 
in Romania, and there is one building and imminently 
operational in Poland as well, and it is to help NATO with the 
defense of Europe. It is, essentially, a radar. The command and 
control, the information technology, communications 
connectivity, and the interceptors, missiles, that are capable 
of defeating ballistic missile, cruise missile threats in and 
around today.
    You know, an Aegis Ashore system on Guam, a fixed site on 
Guam, would enable 360-degree defense of Guam from any military 
attacks from China, whether they come by sea, by air, or by 
ballistic missile, in the future. It is technology that is 
available today. We have built it ashore, we have built it at 
sea, and it is our number one priority for funding in Guam.
    Senator Tuberville. I am sure Putin is real fired up about 
us putting one in Poland, but that is all right. That is one of 
your priorities. Is that still going to be your priority for 
Guam?
    Admiral Davidson. We need to have a mix of operational and 
defensive capability out there, and in my own analysis and my 
work with the Missile Defense Agency it is the key shortcoming 
for the defense of Guam at this point.
    Senator Tuberville. Yeah. Thank you, Admiral. I yield.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Tuberville. I 
will now call upon Senator Manchin. Senator Manchin, please.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Admiral, for your service, and I am sure you are looking 
forward to your retirement. That has to be good for your 
family, but I know we will be seeing more of you in a different 
light, I am sure.
    Sir, basically on Japan, has Japan changed its position on 
Aegis?
    Admiral Davidson. Japan has reconsidered its pursuit of two 
Aegis Ashore sites. It has already committed funds to it. They 
are still working their way through really a base of 
alternatives that I think include both a disaggregated posture 
between land and sea as well as sea and land options.
    Senator Manchin. Was it mostly from just public opinion, 
public discourse with it, more so than military decisions?
    Admiral Davidson. The reason to roll it back?
    Senator Manchin. Uh-huh.
    Admiral Davidson. The siting of the initial Ashore sites 
that they established I think ran into some local political 
concerns that had not been worked through before they made the 
decisions, so they are trying to work through those local 
politics.
    Senator Manchin. Beyond the Aegis Ashore system in Guam, 
what further missile defense capabilities do we need in the 
Pacific, and where do you believe they should be located?
    Admiral Davidson. You know, for fixed sites, I mean, that 
is the one I am advocating for. You know, one of the benefits 
it provides us is it frees up our sea-based assets, our 
destroyers, to move with the maneuver forces, protect the 
carriers, protect the amphibious forces, and to protect more 
widely dispersed land sites that we might be operating from, on 
behalf of the Air Force, the Army, the Marines, et cetera. That 
is why I am pursuing that, and that is the sole major structure 
at this point.
    We do have existing capabilities, as do our allies and 
partners, when it comes to some shorter-range air defense 
threats.
    Senator Manchin. Hypersonic weapons may be one of the 
biggest threats, based on Russian and Chinese development and 
the lack of defenses against these types of weapons. 
Acknowledging that we are not in the classified portion of our 
hearing, which we were this morning, can you tell us, are 
United States capabilities in hypersonic weapons sufficient, 
based on the capability of Chinese defenses against our 
conventional assets? How are we able to defend ourselves 
against hypersonics?
    Admiral Davidson. If you do not mind, Senator, I would like 
to take that one for the record and do it in a classified way, 
so that it is clear.
    Senator Manchin. So I do not know whether this might be in 
the same category. How vulnerable are we to Russia and Chinese 
hypersonic weapons in the Pacific theater, and are you 
satisfied with the capabilities being developed to counter the 
threat? Do we consider that a threat in the Pacific theater, 
and are we developing anything that we can help protect in that 
area?
    Admiral Davidson. Both China and Russia are developing 
hypersonic weapons. We are in the research and development 
(R&D) stages of development as well, and much more work needs 
to be done to provide for the defenses, you know, an 
operational system that would provide for the defenses. 
Frankly, it is going to take a mixture of what we put on land 
and at sea as well as what we can put in space to actually 
defend against those going forward.
    Senator Manchin. According to the World Economic Forum, by 
2030, your area of responsibility, or that you have had, your 
area of responsibility, will be home to many of the world's 
megacities, that will continue to present vast, complicated 
governance issues, and my fear is that these governments will 
look to an authoritarian China as a model, rather than the 
United States. So my question would be, from a military 
perspective, what are some meaningful steps that can be taken 
to help leaders in India, Indonesia, Japan, and the Philippines 
so that they don't start looking at authoritarianism as the way 
to go?
    Admiral Davidson. I think we have to recognize we are in a 
competition here, Senator. China's Belt and Road Initiative 
actually has a component that is trying to enable smart cities 
globally, where all cyber connections would lead back to China, 
which we have to highlight the threat that that presents to 
others. Again, a whole-of-government approach--have to be 
willing to compete in that environment to help the 
infrastructure and advances in these other cities, even if it 
is only advice.
    Senator Manchin. Where do we need to expand the programs to 
ensure allies are capable and that we have appropriate 
interoperability in the case of a conflict in the Indo-Pacific 
region?
    Admiral Davidson. My key objective in this year's budget is 
to pursue this mission partner environment, to help raise the 
information technology connections between our allies and 
partners in the region, build collaborative efforts in 
operations and planning, highlight concerns to these individual 
nations, and have the kind of resiliency in the networks that 
we need.
    Senator Manchin. Has any thought been given to increasing 
those programs with India and our partners in the Indo-China 
peninsula, to provide a barrier and distraction to China's 
efforts in the South China Sea?
    Admiral Davidson. Absolutely. That is at the core of our 
effort.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Admiral.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin. Now I would like 
to recognize Senator Blackburn via Webex.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Admiral, 
thank you for your time this morning. I know that we are 
talking a lot about the Indo-Pacific and China and the problems 
that we have there, and I am going to stay kind of with the 
same line of questioning that you have had with Senator 
Manchin.
    Our nuclear triad, do you agree that we should be 
modernizing, that that would be a valid and convincing 
deterrent?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, absolutely, ma'am.
    Senator Blackburn. Taiwan, let's talk a little bit about 
that. I know you mentioned that earlier, in one of your 
responses. What should we be doing to increase our bilateral 
military exercises with Taiwan, or multilateral exercises with 
others in the region or professional military development?
    Admiral Davidson. You know, to your last point first, 
ma'am, I think there is opportunity to help in professional 
development when it comes to Taiwan. We think that they have 
some specific issues that could help provide for their defense, 
you know, better reserve corps, for example, better response. I 
can tell you, Sergeant Major Shorter, who is sitting behind me 
here, has had a longstanding professional development dialogue 
with his counterparts in Taiwan as well.
    When it comes to exercises, we at U.S. Indo-Pacific 
Command, we do periodically provide--actually, it is annually 
provide some exercise support to Taiwan's major exercise, Han 
Kuang, during the course of the year. We help provide some 
observers to help understand how Taiwan thinks about their 
defense, what their exercises exercise, you know, what that 
exercise contribution is to the advancement in their doctrine 
within Taiwan, and then to deepen our relationships as well.
    Senator Blackburn. On the fusion centers, I had included 
some language in the 2021 NDAA to support an increased funding 
for these regional fusion centers. I would like for you to talk 
just a little bit about what opportunities arise for China if 
we do not continue an aggressive support for these, and then if 
you want to highlight the changes that you think we should be 
making as we look at the Indo-Pacific region in helping to 
strengthen our allies using these fusion centers.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for the question. 
Setting China aside, which really is not at the core of these 
fusion centers, what we envision in the region is three 
collaboration networks, one focused mostly on the Indian Ocean, 
one focused on counterterrorism and centered in Southeast Asia, 
and then one to be sited somewhere in the Pacific as well. But 
it is really to knit together--as we have articulated earlier, 
we do not have a multilateral alliance network. We have a 
series of bilateral alliances and partnership, and some of the 
concerns of the Nations that would be involved in these 
individual centers, you know, there is kind of a common concern 
that would enable dialogue and cooperation.
    So, you know, just speaking of the Counter-Terrorism 
Information Facility (CTIF) in Singapore, the Counter-Terrorism 
Information Facility, they are concerned about Islamic State of 
Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in East Asia, ISIS in the Philippines, 
the potential of some ISIS foreign fighters returning to that 
area. It is just an opportunity for military and civilian 
entities in Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, Brunei, 
with United States and Australian support, to come together and 
speak about it.
    In the Pacific, as just one other example, it is really to 
focus on illegal, unregulated, unreported fishing and other 
trafficking threats in the region, like narco-trafficking and 
human trafficking and things like that, and to provide a 
reliable network where multiple bilateral partners can come 
together and speak in these area.
    You know, because of the very bilateral nation-to-nation 
nature of the region, finding areas of common cause I think are 
critically important, and we are trying to fill that need.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn, and now let me 
recognize Senator Duckworth via Webex.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral 
Davidson, it is good to see you again. I am sorry I was not 
able to come visit in 2020, but hopefully 2021 I will be back 
in the Indo-Pacific region.
    I don't have to tell you about the unique challenges, the 
tyranny of distance in the Indo-Pacific's geography and great 
power competitors and what they present to our supply chain and 
logistics enterprises. I know we have to invest in long-range 
fires and other critical capabilities, but I hope that you 
share my concern that we will not be able to build a combat-
credible deterrence if we do not have the logistics capability 
and capacity to realistically support our complex military op 
plans.
    Admiral Davidson, please elaborate on your request for 
funding for a Pacific movement and coordination center. What 
would this funding provide for you and why is it critical for 
achieving your objectives in the Indo-Pacific region?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you very much, Senator. We had 
hoped to see you out in the Indo-Pacific as well.
    You have laid the basis for this quite well. We have added 
a fifth pillar into the 2022 budget because we did not think 
that joint logistics and sustainment was getting the requisite 
focus as we talked about all these other issues.
    So the movement center, in and of itself, is to enable our 
ability to work with the tyranny of distance, have more 
resiliency in all the multiple processes that go into 
logistics, from multiple sources. Some are governmental, some 
are commercial, et cetera, and then to start to deal in the 
contested environment, the kind of threats that we might see 
disrupting our logistics writ large.
    So we have highlighted it in the 1251 report for this year 
and we will keep joint logistics on there as a pillar that we 
need to focus on, going forward.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. So let's go further into 
this. How can the military services and other DOD agencies play 
a role in developing the logistics systems capabilities and 
capacity required to support these op plan? You know, I am 
thinking of everybody can play a part in this. Can you speak a 
little bit to what the other agencies can do? What can we do 
right now to address these issues?
    Admiral Davidson. Well----
    Senator Duckworth. I speak to things like, you know, U.S. 
Transportation Command (TRANSCOM), and we do not have enough 
tanker aircraft, we do not have enough hulls in the water, that 
sort of thing.
    Admiral Davidson. Yeah, no, you have got it exactly right. 
I mean, there is deep need to recapitalize the military sea 
lift and anything that--plus those assets, not anything, those 
assets that Maritime Administration provides. I think 
recapitalization there is necessary. We are closely partnered 
with TRANSCOM on the tanker network around the globe. I think 
writ large you will see the Air Force and TRANSCOM working 
together, trying to figure out where new capability like the 
KC-46 should be added, what is the best positioning for it in 
order to make its availability and sustainability sound while 
contributing to the overall transportation network as well. You 
know, that needs to be recapitalized--excuse me, examined. The 
posture needs to be examined as it goes forward as well.
    There is a deep focus on the issue of contested logistics 
as well. It is one of the doctrinal concepts that the Joint 
Staff is trying to advance. We are deeply involved in that 
conversation and look forward to its output here during the 
course of this year.
    Senator Duckworth. Could we carry out the op plans for the 
Indo-Pacific region without the fifth pillar that you are 
proposing?
    Admiral Davidson. Oh, ma'am, all the combatant commands 
depend highly on logistics. In our theater, I do not have the 
benefit of internal lines of communication. We have got to be 
able to protect these external lines of communication, you 
know, deliver some actually to our allies and partners in the 
region as well, and then defend it all in order to maintain the 
posture that we have out there in the region.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Duckworth. Let 
me recognize Senator Hawley via Webex.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Admiral, 
thank you for being here and congratulations on your many 
decades now of outstanding service. On behalf of your fellow 
Missourians I just want to say thank you for all that you have 
done for the country, and we are very proud of you in the state 
of Missouri, so thank you for your service.
    Let me ask you a question that I posed to Deputy Secretary 
of Defense Kathleen Hicks in her testimony a couple of weeks 
ago. She testified that it is essential for the United States 
to maintain the ability to defeat a Chinese fait accompli 
against Taiwan in order to strengthen deterrence against China. 
Do you agree with Deputy Hicks on this point?
    Admiral Davidson. Absolutely.
    Senator Hawley. Do you agree with Deputy Hicks that a 
strategy of denial is essential for deterring Chinese 
aggression?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, and that is core to our approach in 
the 1251 report.
    Senator Hawley. Yes, it is. Let me just give you a second 
to explain to the Committee why it is important you think to 
strengthen our forces west of the International Date Line in 
order to effectively achieve deterrence by denial.
    Admiral Davidson. Thanks, Senator. You know, our posture in 
the region must be demonstrative of the capabilities that the 
United States could and would bring to bear in a crisis--its 
capacity, numbers, and the will of the United States to prevent 
the fait accompli that you highlighted.
    We fulfill that not only through--and this goes back a 
little bit to what Senator Duckworth had to say--not only 
through people focused so much on fires and platforms, but it 
is the whole of the apparatus that makes that sound. It is the 
logistics, it is the intelligence and warning, it is all that 
stuff that buys you the time in order to present options to the 
national security apparatus here, and the Nation, should the 
day-to-day competition turn to crisis.
    Importantly, what we are trying to do is every day that 
China gets out of bed and peels back the curtain and sees the 
United States and its allied and partner network out there in 
the Western Pacific, assuring its own access, that it thinks I 
do not want to mess with that capability and that capacity and 
what I know to be the will, and closes the curtains, and is not 
going to fight. You know, that is what we are trying to 
achieve.
    Senator Hawley. Yeah, let me just ask you about the window 
of conflict with regard to China. Some are saying that we do 
not really need to worry about potential conflict with China 
until 2035, or even later. You said last week China could 
achieve military overmatch in the region as soon as 2026, and 
that if it does--and I am quoting you now--it could like choose 
to forcibly change the status quo in the region.
    Can you just elaborate on those comments?
    Admiral Davidson. Yeah. We have indication that the risks 
are actually going up. I have to be a little delicate here, 
Senator, because of the classified nature of some of the 
material, but I think, demonstratively, what you are seeing 
China do in the region--in Hong Kong, in the South China Sea, 
and the East China Sea, some of the malign military actions 
that have taken in and around Taiwan and elsewhere in the East 
China Sea and South China Sea, are indicative that China's pace 
is quickening, and we need to be postured to prevent that 
quickening from happening.
    Senator Hawley. You also said that if China does succeed in 
changing the status quo that that change would likely be 
permanent. Tell us what you meant by that.
    Admiral Davidson. Well, they have made it quite plain that 
they would wish to supplant U.S. leadership around the globe. I 
am seeing a whole-of-government effort in trying to fulfill 
that ambition, and they are trying to do that by mid-century. 
They are knocking down waypoints that they think stand in their 
way of achieving that. I would say the most waypoint that they 
have knocked down is the establishment of the--or the 
revocation of the national security law in Hong Kong, and the 
obliteration of one country and two systems there. That, 
fundamentally, is, you know, I think sending a chill across the 
region about what Chinese ambitions might be and who might fall 
ill of Chinese design.
    Senator Hawley. I have got just a few seconds here. Let me 
ask you--actually, give you the opportunity actually to comment 
about the Guam defense system. You have spoken about the need 
for this on a number of occasions. Just give us a sense of what 
will happen to our ability to deter Chinese aggression if we do 
not strengthen Guam's air and missile defense systems.
    Admiral Davidson. It is the key piece that we are missing 
that signals to the region that the U.S. is a reliable and 
committed security partner, that we are there to defend not 
only U.S. territory but our interests abroad, and in 
combination with other capabilities. A more distributed 
posture, a higher level of lethality in our air and maritime 
and ground forces that might be rotating or present in the 
region puts forward that total deterrent posture that helps the 
deter-by-denial objective, that they cannot knock Guam out with 
an easy shot and keep us out of the fight to present that fait 
accompli that Deputy Secretary Hicks talked about.
    Senator Hawley. Great. Thank you, Admiral. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Now via Webex I 
would like to recognize Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Admiral, for being here, for your service, you and your team, 
all the work that you have done.
    I would like to focus today a little bit on how using 
technology can potentiate our strategic planning and, of 
course, the Pacific Deterrence Initiative. So let's talk about 
regional data-sharing for a moment. America's longstanding 
advantage in the Indo-Pacific relies on our network of 
alliances with regional democracies. These partnerships are the 
cornerstone of promoting a free and open region. As part of the 
mission partner environment, U.S. INDOPACOM seeks to develop an 
integrated architecture to expand data-sharing amongst like-
minded nations through the use of information fusion centers, 
joint centers where allies can share information using cloud-
based technologies, integrated systems, and secure access 
control.
    So, Admiral Davidson, can you outline your plans to 
establish an interoperable, digital network in the Indo-
Pacific, and how does an integrated IT architecture strengthen 
our ability to share information and really fight together with 
our allies and partners?
    Admiral Davidson. Thank you for the question, Senator, very 
much. We have described the MPE in our 1251 assessment, and we 
hope it will be resourced by the PDI initiative. It is 
technology and capability that is actually evident, you know, 
now. It is not new development that we need to do.
    But sharing with our allied and partner network around the 
region would do a few things, to your last point. One, raise 
the cyber resiliency of the information that we share and 
others share with us and with each other, and then, in turn, 
provide reliable connectivity for us to collaborate, to 
cooperate, to plan, to highlight threats in the region to the 
level of concern that the Nations participating would have, all 
the way from illegal, unregulated, and unreported fishing on to 
the higher threat concerns in the region with other partners. 
But it would give us the assurance that the information that 
were being shared couldn't be disrupted or could not be shared 
outside the confines of the network as well.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I would like to move to, and we 
spoke about this a little bit earlier, but virtual military 
exercise, because we have to overcome the challenge of joint 
training across long distances in the Indo-Pacific. So U.S. 
INDOPACOM, I know that you are seeking to initiate Pacific 
Multi-Domain Training and Experimentation Capability, or PMTEC. 
This initiative would include creating virtual coalition 
training complexes, linking together testing and training 
ranges in the United States, like Nellis Air Force Base and 
Fallon Range Training Complex in my home state of Nevada, with 
allies like Japan and Australia.
    So can you talk a little bit about how the virtual training 
environment can transform the way U.S. Forces train with allies 
in the region, how it allows us to model and try different 
things out in a virtual setting with our allies and partners, 
and maybe even increase the frequency of these training 
missions.
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, ma'am. Thank you very much. As our 
own joint force has brought in now what we call multi-domain 
capabilities, meaning space and cyber capability as well as 
what we see in the terrestrial environment, right--air, land, 
and sea--as well as adapt the capabilities, or modernize the 
capabilities in the terrestrial environment, fifth-generation 
fighters like the F-35 and the F-22, integrated air and missile 
defense like our Aegis ships, THAAD radars, and things like 
that. We need to be able to stress the joint force in a dynamic 
training range in a way that cannot occur in what was 20th 
century-developed ranges.
    Each one of these ranges that we have talked about--Alaska, 
what you have highlighted in Nevada at Fallon and Nellis, what 
we have in Hawaii, for example, at PTA and PMRF in Kauai, and 
what we hope for at the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana 
Islands, Joint Military Training Initiative (CJMT), the 
training range out in Guam, and Commonwealth of Northern 
Mariana Islands (CNMI)--we want to deliver some connectivity, 
range to range, and the ability to inject, you know, computer-
generated, virtual and constructive, as we call it, 
capabilities in there so that we can more widely stress the 
joint force, test it, train it, and, oh, by the way, if we 
wanted to keep anything secret that we did not want a satellite 
or an intelligence-gathering ship to observe, do it in an 
entirely virtual environment.
    We need to extend PMTC as we have developed it to these 
ranges. We think it is transportable, we think it is sharable 
between these ranges, and we think it will bring a much higher 
level of fidelity of training to the very disparate forces we 
have over vast areas, from Alaska to California to Hawaii and 
westward, going forward.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that. I look forward 
to working with you on developing all the new skill sets that 
our military needs to perform these operations. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Now let me 
recognize Senator Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Admiral, for joining us today. I have got a couple of questions 
here about command and control and communications, and we rely 
heavily on satellites to do that.
    In January of 2007, China conducted an anti-satellite test 
against one of their own nonoperational weather satellites with 
a kinetic kill vehicle, and it has been reported that in the 
years since China has an operational capability that can attack 
satellites in low-earth orbit and that they are developing the 
capability that goes all the way out to geosynchronous orbit.
    So how does this affect the strategic balance of power in 
the region, from your perspective?
    Admiral Davidson. Thanks for that, Senator. Yes, both China 
and Russia have demonstrated capability to disrupt satellites, 
you know, testing capabilities on their own assets in the past, 
as you have articulated. It clearly, I think, demonstrates that 
space, which we have long considered a domain in which would be 
unthreatened for the United States, the potential is there, 
actually, for it to be threatened.
    We have to build resiliency into our space apparatus. That 
happens with other space assets, it happens with creating 
airborne and other terrestrial alternatives to fulfill that, 
and it changes the calculus in space as well. We have to 
recognize that, again--and this goes back to some earlier 
comments I made about deterrence theory. We are not going to be 
able to play defense alone in this particular regard. If we 
cannot demonstrate to others that their capabilities in space 
might be at risk, then we run the risk of a deterrence failure.
    That said, the space layer is critically important to how 
we sense in the strategic nuclear deterrent, how we communicate 
across the joint force, and even how we sense and distribute 
information to the conventional forces as well. Its resiliency 
is incredibly important to us.
    Senator Kelly. As you are gaming out scenarios with the 
PLA, do you consider this capability that they have obtained?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, absolutely.
    Senator Kelly. Okay, and then do you have sufficient 
intelligence and surveillance capability to keep up with the 
changes that they are making with regards to their space 
systems now?
    Admiral Davidson. I would have to allow General Raymond at 
the Space Force and General Dickinson to respond at Space 
Command (SPACECOM) as well. But writ large, over all the 
capabilities that we see China developing there is a need for 
more intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance of their 
test and development, in particular, and then, you know, 
observing what they are doing in the training and exercise 
realm as well, writ large. I would be surprised if General 
Raymond and General Dickinson did not agree that that was 
necessary in space too.
    Senator Kelly. All right. Thank you. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kelly. Admiral 
Davidson, thank you again for your distinguished service in the 
Navy and the Nation, to your family who endured as much as you, 
in many cases, and once again, please convey our appreciation 
and profound respect for the men and women under your command. 
Thank you, Admiral Davidson. This is the end of the hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 11:50 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

           Questions Submitted by Senator Richard Blumenthal
                               submarines
    1. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, how important is it for 
your forces to have the most advanced technological capabilities in the 
undersea domain?
    Admiral Davidson. It is critical for USINDOPACOM to remain on the 
leading edge of advanced undersea technology. The Virginia and 
Columbia-class submarines ensure the United States maintains its 
advantage in undersea warfare for the foreseeable future. The Virginia-
class represents our most advanced asymmetrical advantage in countering 
the PRC's anti-access area denial strategy, guaranteeing the United 
States ensures access to the sea-lanes of communication in the first-
island chain. The Virginia-class submarine's advanced technology is 
difficult to detect and has the offensive capability to hold any 
maritime or terrestrial target at risk.
    Meanwhile, the Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine provides 
the most survivable leg of the nuclear triad and provides an invaluable 
multi-mission platform as a replacement for the aged Ohio-class 
submarine.

    2. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, what has China been doing, 
that you are aware of, to close the technological gap in undersea 
capabilities with the United States?
    Admiral Davidson. China recognizes the importance of the undersea 
domain and is pursuing a range of capabilities to close the gap. China 
is fielding and integrating dedicated anti-submarine patrol aircraft 
and surface ships, installing and operating undersea monitoring 
systems, and investing heavily in unmanned I autonomous sensors to 
improve situational awareness. Many modem PLA Navy multirole surface 
warships feature advanced anti-submarine weapons and sensors. 
Additionally, the PLA Navy continues to field improved submarines, such 
as the Type 039A/B Yuan-class diesel-electric air-independent-powered 
attack submarine, and will add its first guided-missile nuclear attack 
submarine by the mid-2020s. In combination, these developments provide 
the PRC with improved undersea awareness, more lethal anti-submarine 
warfare capabilities, and a greater offensive strike capability.

    3. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, do we have the capability 
to counter these emerging threats from China?
    Admiral Davidson. Based on current threat reporting, USINDOPACOM is 
poised to counter the emerging threats from China provided we fulfill 
our current requested force requirements within the AOR. Currently, 
United States Anti-Submarine platforms are more technically advanced 
and provide the ability to counter Chinese submarine emerging threats. 
The United States must continue to resource all Anti-Submarine warfare 
platforms, including submarines, cruisers, destroyers, and maritime 
patrol aircraft. The United States must also maintain funding for new 
platforms such as the Virginia-class submarines to ensure adequate 
margin as new Chinese threats emerge.
               non-traditional national security threats
    4. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, what steps would you 
recommend the Department of Defense (DOD) take in the Indo-Pacific to 
swiftly respond to emerging nontraditional national security 
challenges, including global health and climate change issues?
    Admiral Davidson. The United States should leverage DOD 
capabilities as an important player to address the global health 
security issues we currently face. While DOD can provide unique 
capability for rapid response to a global threat, this must be 
carefully regulated with our capacity to maintain the readiness of the 
joint force. This requires the United States to leverage existing 
global health security mechanisms such as the Global Health Security 
Agenda (GHSA) and the Global Partnership Against the Spread of Weapons 
and Materials of Mass Destruction with U.S. national security 
priorities.

    5. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, in your view, are the 
installations in your area of responsibility (AOR) prepared to face 
non-traditional threats such as extreme weather due to climate change?
    Admiral Davidson. Our installations need work to mitigate the 
impacts from natural disasters and extreme weather. In particular, the 
DOD must invest in critical infrastructure that is used to store and 
maintain our most critical weapon systems and platforms.

    6. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, DOD's 2019 Climate Change 
report mentioned that ``at Naval Base Guam, recurrent flooding limits 
capacity for a number of operations and activities . . . that support 
mission execution.'' How does this flooding jeopardize U.S. Indo-
Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) operations?
    Admiral Davidson. The 2019 DOD Climate Change Report states that 
recurrent flooding impacts operations and activities in Guam not only 
at the Naval Base, but also at Andersen Air Force Base.
    Degraded mission capacity can affect submarines, air mobility and 
combat aircraft, security forces, and communication units. Guam is a 
critical element for United States Homeland defense in terms of 
deterrence, crisis planning, and response to potential adversary 
actions. Climate change mitigation, protection, and preparedness 
measures are essential in supporting DOD mission assurance and 
minimizing the impact to INDOPACOM operations.

    7. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, do you require additional 
resources to effectively combat the effects of climate change?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes. The Indo-Pacific region experiences frequent 
natural and manmade disasters, including the negative impacts of 
climate change. Our Center for Excellence and Disaster Management 
collaborates with our partners throughout the Inda-Pacific to increase 
disaster resilience, to include climate change resilience, through 
humanitarian assistance and disaster response (HADR). I welcome 
additional resources to expand science and technology (S&T) in areas 
such as food, water, environmental security, waste treatment, marine 
environmental management, renewable energy, and HADR.

    8. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, what can be done to 
further increase that resiliency of critical installations, such as 
those in Guam?
    Admiral Davidson. To increase resiliency, the DOD must fund 
critical infrastructure projects on installations consistent with 
service-prioritized installation MILCON requirements. In addition, the 
DOD must leverage Energy Savings Performance Contracting (ESPCs) and/or 
Utility Energy Service Contracts (UESC). These services enable budget-
neutral facility improvements options that build resilient base load 
co-generation power plants to sustain critical mission loads in the 
event of outages.
                                 china
    9. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, recently the Chinese 
launched a large scale cyber-attack on Microsoft's email service, what 
should the American Public know about that attack and what does that 
tell you about China's ability and intent to attack the United States?
    Admiral Davidson. [Deleted.]

    10. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, you recently stated that 
by 2026 the Chinese military could reach the point of ``strategic 
overmatch'' with the United States--what do you think needs to be done 
to counter that projection?
    Admiral Davidson. My 1251 assessment lists five focus areas to 
counter PRC ``strategic overmatch'':
    1)  Increase joint force lethality, including investments in 
integrated Air and Missile Defense, like the Guam Defensive System, 
which is my number one priority; long-range precision fires; and ISR 
augmentation.
    2)  Enhance design and posture, including investments in strategic 
locations to project power, and dispersal locations to distribute 
forces.
    3)  Strengthen our allies and partners, principally by increasing 
interoperability and information sharing.
    4)  Modernize exercises, experimentation, and innovation to 
integrate Service recommended weapons and capabilities that deters 
adversaries and trains the force.
    5)  Improve joint logistics and sustainment, including munitions 
provision, fuel distribution, recapitalization of lift assets, and 
command and control of those capabilities.

    11. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, how can we prepare to 
counter the potential threat of Chinese aggression in all domains, 
including less kinetic domains such as cyber and disinformation?
    Admiral Davidson. Great Power Competition requires USINDOPACOM to 
compete across multiple domains simultaneously, and none are more 
competitive than the information and cyber domains. This requires 
USINDOPACOM to provide a resilient, secure, adaptable, and 
interoperable information architecture for the United States and its 
Allies and Partners. This can be achieved by fully resourcing the 
Mission Partner Environment and accelerating the pursuit of information 
advantage to include, but not limited to: technologies and concepts 
that embrace artificial intelligence (AI), machine learning (ML), 
quantum computing, and more discretion with regard to executing 
Military Information Support Operations (MISO).
                    f-35 and strategic capabilities
    12. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, when you look at the 
strategic challenges in the INDOPACOM area of responsibilities, is a 
5th generation fighter capability like the F-35 is critical to mission 
success?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, 5th generation fighters, in particular the 
F-35, are critical for USINDOPACOM to deter its adversaries. 4th 
generation fighters do not provide the capabilities needed in combat 
against a near peer adversary or the multi-domain superiority required 
in the Western Pacific. The integration of stealth and advanced sensors 
provided by 5th generation fighters is essential in an Anti-Access/Area 
Denial (A2/AD) environment. Additionally, 5th generation fighters 
contribute to the necessary multi-domain superiority and increased 
interoperability with allies and partners.

    13. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, do you believe the Joint 
All-Domain Command and Control concept is going to be the most 
effective way to counter China's emerging technology and enhanced 
defense posture?
    Admiral Davidson. The DOD is still developing the Joint All-Domain 
Command and Control concept and Services are rapidly developing 
required capabilities. However, the joint force will likely not fully 
implement the concept by 2026, which is when China could achieve 
military overmatch within the region. Regardless of system, USINDOPACOM 
requires the capability to sense, make sense, and act at all levels 
across all domains with allies and partners to maintain an advantage 
over adversaries.

    14. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Davidson, what role does the Air 
Force play in strategic deterrence, including within the Pacific 
Deterrence Initiative?
    Admiral Davidson. The Air Force plays a significant role in 
strategic deterrence, most notably in the context of the nuclear triad. 
Within the context of the Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI), the 
requirements I identified in my Independent Assessment enhance key 
strategic power projection locations, and improve survivability through 
divert locations that enhance a distributed force posture. The 
Independent Assessment also identifies improvements to ranges in the 
Indo-Pacific that will provide fully instrumented, live-virtual 
training areas that will enhance all domain integration and improved 
functional ranges.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                  free and open indo-pacific strategy
    15. Senator Hirono. Admiral Davidson, China's navy has rapidly 
grown in recent years--they currently have two operational aircraft 
carriers in their fleet with a third under construction. At the same 
time, they have undertaken increasingly provocative actions in the 
South China Sea, after decades of building artificial islands there. 
Can you talk about the importance of routine freedom of navigation 
operations in the South China Sea to support our ``Free and Open Indo-
Pacific'' strategy?
    Admiral Davidson. Implemented in 1979 to protect U.S. navigation, 
overflight, and related interests on, under, and over the seas against 
excessive maritime claims, the Freedom of Navigation (FON) program 
combines diplomatic action and non-confrontational, operational 
assertions of navigation and overflight rights to maintain U.S. 
operational flexibility around the globe. FON operations, including 
regular passage by U.S. warships through strategic waterways, are 
essential for maintaining internationally recognized rights at sea. 
U.S. national security and commerce depend upon the freedoms of 
navigation and overflight of the seas and international law. A 
significant number of coastal states assert maritime claims that are 
inconsistent with international law, which-if left unchallenged-could 
evolve into customary use and thereby limit navigational freedoms that 
are vital to U.S. national security and global economic prosperity.
                     pacific deterrence initiative
    16. Senator Hirono. Admiral Davidson, in what ways does the Pacific 
Deterrence Initiative (PDI) incorporate environmental security issues 
into its relationships with key regional allies and partners?
    Admiral Davidson. PDI requirements incorporate environmental 
security objectives in the Significant Security Cooperation Initiatives 
(SSCI) with our key regional allies and partners. SSCis include 
capacity building activities as the primary vehicle to inform and 
educate the intended audience. Typically these activities consist of 
symposiums, training forums, and subject matter exchanges. PDI 
requirements will also include fusion centers that promote advanced 
information sharing and interoperability intended to address common 
security challenges, including environmental issues.

    17. Senator Hirono. Admiral Davidson, how would proposed PDI 
spending address the range of environmental challenges facing the 
United States and our allies and partners, to include sea level rise, 
coastal erosion, destructive invasive species, and illegal, unreported, 
and unregulated fishing in the AOR?
    Admiral Davidson. According to the NDAA, the PDI intends to enhance 
deterrence and defense posture in the Indo-Pacific. Current 
requirements identified in my 1251 Independent Assessment include a 
networked architecture of fusion centers to address common challenges, 
such as the effects resulting from climate change and illegal, 
unregulated, and unreported (IUU) fishing. Reinvigorating funding for 
the Defense Environmental International Cooperation (DEIC) and aligning 
within PDI would enhance and strengthen our Environmental Security 
Program that influences partner nations in the competition sphere. DEIC 
has been without funding since 2017 causing our Environmental Security 
Program to compete with Security Cooperation efforts under the Asia 
Pacific Regional Initiative.

    18. Senator Hirono. Admiral Davidson, thank you for emphasizing the 
importance of our allies and partners in the AOR--as a follow-up to 
your answer during our colloquy on this subject in the hearing, can you 
also discuss in detail how the PDI funding you are requesting would 
support the Freely Associated States (FAS) and why our FAS partners are 
so critical to our collective security in the region?
    Admiral Davidson. The Freely Associated States (FAS) are 
strategically located across our economic and defense sea lines of 
communication. The requirements I identified for PDI effecting the FAS 
include the Tactical Multi-Mission Over-the-Horizon-Radar (TACMOR) and 
multiple facilities at airfields and ports. Identified PDI requirements 
will improve information fusion and data-sharing initiatives that 
address the effects of climate change; illegal, unregulated, unreported 
(IUU) fishing; human and narcotics trafficking; transnational crime; 
and other security threats that are key security challenges for our 
regional partners. Finally, identified PDI requirements will provide 
for Security Cooperation programs to build ally and partner 
capabilities.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
                      intermediate range missiles
    19. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, you recently submitted a 
report of your investment priorities for the INDOPACOM theater that 
included $3.3 billion for ``highly survivable, precision-strike fires'' 
with a range greater than 500km. You were recently asked at the 
American Enterprise Institute about access to allied territory west of 
Guam for these missiles and you said, ``there would have to be a policy 
interaction to do these things going forward.'' I recognize that the 
State Department would be formally responsible for leading these 
negotiations, but have you had any discussions, formal or informal, 
with your counterparts amongst our Western Pacific allies and partners 
specifically on their willingness to host a new class of intermediate 
range missiles? Based on your experience working closely with our 
allies and partners, do you believe that there are any who will be 
willing to host this new missile system(s)?
    Admiral Davidson. Expanding ground-based fires helps to enable the 
maneuver of our maritime and air forces in the Western Pacific, deters 
our adversaries, improves the stability in the region, and, 
operationally, forces our adversaries to work harder to find, fix, and 
finish our maneuver forces. Any formal negotiations to posture ground 
based long-range precision fires west of Guam is Department of State 
led. USINDOPACOM routinely conducts military-to-military consultations 
with allies and partners and welcomes conversations about specific 
posture initiatives in the Western Pacific. Japan's leadership is 
anticipating approval of a new missile defense policy that might open 
the door to increased deterrence cooperation with the United States. It 
is too early to determine if Japan will host United States missiles; 
however, any increase in opportunities with Japan for bilateral 
defense, deterrence, and combined capability development supports 
efforts to ensure a free and open Indo-Pacific.

    20. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, among possible ground-
launched missile options with a range beyond 500 km, do you believe 
that missiles with a longer-range and higher speed capable of striking 
deep within China would be more contentious with allies than shorter-
range anti-ship missiles?
    Admiral Davidson. For allies and partners potentially interested in 
hosting missile strike capability, short-range anti-ship systems are 
less contentious because these largely represent coastal defense - 
defending a nation's territory and territorial waters. My 1251 
Independent Assessment does include the requirement for long-range 
strike capabilities to establish a credible deterrent in the Indo-
Pacific. Long-range precision strike capabilities, when combined with 
defensive capabilities, reassures our allies and partners and gives our 
adversaries pause.
                                 china
    21. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, during your testimony you 
asserted that China ``quadrupled their nuclear capability since the 
turn of the century and they will at least double it during the course 
of this decade.'' You also said that if China were to ``quadruple their 
stockpile'' they could possibly have nuclear overmatch over the United 
States by the end of this decade. The United States maintains a total 
of approximately 3,800 nuclear warheads in its active stockpile 
according to open source estimates, approximately 1,500 of which are 
deployed in accordance with New START [Strategic Arms Reduction 
Treaty]. According to last year's China military power report, China 
currently has an operational nuclear warhead stockpile in the ``low 
200s''. Can you clarify what you meant in stating that China has 
``quadrupled their nuclear capability since the turn of the century''? 
Has China quadrupled the size of its warhead stockpile? Has China 
quadrupled the number of nuclear or nuclear-capable delivery systems? 
Has China quadrupled the number of intercontinental ballistic missiles 
(ICBM) that can target the United States Homeland?
    Admiral Davidson. China has at least tripled and probably 
quadrupled its nuclear warhead stockpile since 2000, from 70 to 200-
300. According to a Congressional Research Service report, in 2000 the 
PRC had approximately 70 nuclear warheads. The China military power 
report estimate of ``low 200s'' would represent a three-fold increase. 
United States Strategic Command estimates the PRC has up to 300 nuclear 
warheads, representing a four-fold increase.
    China has tripled the number of nuclear delivery systems since 
2000, from 70 to 210. The same CRS report estimated China had 
approximately 70 delivery systems (50 silo-based nuclear-capable ICBMs 
and 20 mobile nuclear-capable MRBMs). Since then, the PRC has greatly 
expanded the number of mobile missile launchers and added ballistic 
missile submarines. The China military power report states China's 
current nuclear arsenal includes all of its land-based ICBMs, some 
nuclear-capable IRBMs and MRBMs, and JIN-class SSBNs. This equals an 
estimated 210 delivery systems.
    China has doubled the number of ICBMs that can target the Homeland 
since 2000, from 50 to 100.
    During my Senate Armed Services Committee appearance, the terms 
``stockpile'' and ``delivery systems'' were used, sometimes 
interchangeably. To clarify, over the next 10 years, the PRC will 
substantially increase both its nuclear stockpile (i.e., warheads) and 
delivery systems. However, it is only in the latter category that China 
could exceed the United States.
    Stockpile (Warheads): If China quadruples its warhead inventory 
(800-1200), it would remain below the U.S. total of 1500 deployed 
warheads under New START.
    Delivery Systems: If China quadruples its inventory of delivery 
systems (840), it would exceed the United States total of 675 deployed 
systems under New START by 165.

    22. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, do you believe that China 
intends to at least double the size of its warhead stockpile? If so, 
why do you assess that leaders in Beijing feel the need to pursue a 
larger store of nuclear warheads?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, I agree with DOD estimates that China will 
at least double its nuclear capability over the next decade. This is 
part of Beijing's broader focus on expanding and diversifying its 
nuclear force, to include developing a nuclear triad with land-, sea-, 
and air-based delivery platforms. These developments highlight China's 
strategic intent to maintain a survivable nuclear force as a global 
power and may portend a shift away from what it has previously termed 
as a ``minimum deterrent'' capability.
    Beijing's lack of transparency regarding the scope and scale of its 
nuclear program should be a concern to all nations. I strongly support 
continued efforts to encourage Chinese participation in nuclear arms 
control discussions.

    23. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, given your assessment of 
China's nuclear force plans over the next decade, do you believe the 
United States should increase the number of nuclear warheads in its 
stockpile? If so, how do you think leaders in Beijing would respond?
    Admiral Davidson. Any reduction in U.S. nuclear delivery 
capabilities to include reduction from a triad, stagnation of the 
development of modern delivery systems, or reductions in the United 
States nuclear stockpile could prompt China to question our commitment 
to safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent capabilities. As the 
threat and associated defenses evolve, our capabilities to defeat those 
targets must evolve as well.
    Beijing believes the United States is pursuing a strategy of 
containment, and will evaluate any change to U.S. strategic force 
posture, placement, or quantity through this lens as it determines 
whether and how to reconfigure its own nuclear forces. Regardless of 
U.S. actions, China will continue its nuclear modernization 
initiatives.

    24. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, you have repeatedly said, 
including in your hearing testimony, that the greatest danger to the 
future of the United States continues to be an erosion of conventional 
deterrence with respect to China. In its fiscal year 2021 Budget 
Request, the Trump administration proposed to cut the Navy's 
shipbuilding account--in particular a second Virginia-class attack 
submarine--to fund an unplanned, multi-billion dollar cost overrun for 
the National Nuclear Security Administration's nuclear weapons program. 
Did you support that decision?
    Admiral Davidson. Maintaining the build rate for the Virginia-class 
submarine should remain one of the United States' top DOD priorities. 
The Virginia-class submarine provides significant conventional 
deterrence through its capability to help control the seas and project 
power in a highly contested environment and has a high rate of 
survivability, which is absolutely necessary in an Anti-Access/Area 
Denial (A2/AD) environment. These innovations must be balanced with 
other top DOD priorities such as the erosion of the United States' 
nuclear deterrence capability.

    25. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, you believe that mitigating 
an erosion of conventional deterrence with respect to China should be 
the Defense Department's top priority?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, I do. The erosion of conventional deterrence 
is the greatest danger for the United States in its strategic 
competition with the People's Republic of China (PRC). History shows 
that the People's Liberation Army typically undertakes military 
operations when it has a size and capability advantage. As we see U.S. 
conventional deterrent erode, the PRC will likely take on more risk to 
challenge the United States and its allies in the region.

    26. Senator Warren. Admiral Davidson, do you believe that the 
United States can safely mitigate an erosion of conventional deterrence 
by relying more heavily on nuclear weapons?
    Admiral Davidson. No, the United States needs to reestablish its 
conventional deterrence capacity. A conventional deterrent posture is 
necessary to prevent conflict, protect U.S. interests, and to assure 
allies and partners. The PRC has a growing nuclear arsenal. The 
expansion and modernization of their nuclear arsenal carries with it a 
growing risk of inadvertent escalation, underscoring the need to 
maintain and improve conventional deterrence. To simply rely on nuclear 
deterrence could effectively remove all other options short of nuclear 
exchange, should conflict occur.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe
                  role of f-35 in indopacom scenarios
    27. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, some Members of Congress have 
recently expressed skepticism on the need for and value of 5th 
generation fighter aircraft--specifically the F-35. Meanwhile, China 
has established a formidable integrated air defense network, 
particularly across the Taiwan Strait, and has operationally fielded 
its first 5th generation stealth fighter, the J-20. Your written 
testimony highlighted 5th generation fighters as helping create the 
opportunity to ``Regain the Advantage'' vis-a-vis China. Given China's 
expanding anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) capabilities, can you tell us 
what you've seen in the intelligence estimates and/or war game results 
when 4th generation vice 5th generation aircraft attempt to operate 
inside of the A2/AD bubble. In your estimation, how important are 5th 
generation aircraft like the F-35 to deterring Chinese aggression?
    Admiral Davidson. In war-gaming, 5th generation fighters 
exceedingly out-perform 4th generation fighters in an Anti-Access/Area 
Denial (A2/AD) environment and suffer significantly less losses. The 
lack of advanced sensors and stealth in 4th generation fighters makes 
them vulnerable in the A2/AD environment. 5th generation fighters, 
specifically the F-35, are therefore vitally important in deterring 
Chinese aggression. Furthermore, Japan, Korea, Australia, and Singapore 
have all purchased F-35s, which will inevitably increase 
interoperability with the United States and the ability to share 
information in time of crisis.
                     pacific deterrence initiative
    28. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, Secretary Lloyd Austin, 
Deputy Secretary Kathleen Hicks, and General Mark Milley have all said 
the Indo-Pacific is the priority theater. If that is true, you would 
expect the Biden administration budget to fully fund the $4.6 billion 
PDI request for fiscal year 2022 as outlined and justified in the 
section 1251 report you submitted this year. In your opinion, if the 
President's budget request for fiscal year 2022 in early May does not 
reflect the priorities you've said you need for PDI, does that 
undermine the policy that the Indo-Pacific is the ``priority theater''?
    Admiral Davidson. I am encouraged by the Armed Services Committees' 
efforts to establish and resource the PDI. I am equally encouraged that 
the Deputy Secretary of Defense articulated that PDI is a priority and 
that the Department will address this initiative during the budget 
review. I provided recommended capabilities and a funding profile in my 
Independent Assessment to inform PDI. We will continue to provide the 
prioritized requirements for PDI to inform the fiscal year 2022 budget. 
I anticipate that the Department will take deliberate action to 
resource the needed investments.

    29. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, some Members of Congress have 
publicly commented they are undecided about what, if any, additional 
investments need to be made to improve U.S. military posture in the 
Indo-Pacific. The worry expressed is that improving our posture in the 
Indo-Pacific overemphasizes that the only way to deal with China is to 
build a military large enough to dominate them, which is 
``unnecessarily provocative'' and impossible in the modern era of 
warfare. Meanwhile, the Associated Press (AP) reported that China 
announced last week an increase in defense spending by 6.8 percent. How 
do you answer the question from skeptics that we don't need PDI to 
improve our posture in the Indo-Pacific?
    Admiral Davidson. PDI requirements focus on vital military 
capabilities needed to deter China. Deterrence is the combination of 
will and capability, communicated in such a way that the adversary 
assesses the cost of initiating hostilities outweighs potential gains. 
PDI requirements modernize capabilities required for 21st century 
warfare and communicate the United States' dedication to the region. 
The investment cost is much less than the costs should deterrence fail 
and conflict result. Diplomatic leaders must be able to rely on the 
strength of the U.S. military and collective militaries of allies and 
partners as a credible last resort to complement diplomacy, 
development, and economic statecraft.

    30. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, if we maintain our status quo 
posture rather than improving, in your opinion, does that make military 
conflict more likely or less likely?
    Admiral Davidson. Maintaining our status quo posture makes military 
conflict more likely because we will cede the initiative to our 
competitors and adversaries in the region and fail to deter aggression.
    Conversely, increasing our persistent presence through forward-
based and rotational joint forces inside the first island chain is the 
most credible way to demonstrate our commitment and resolve to 
competitors, deter unwanted aggression, and assure allies and partners.
    Current capacity and capability gaps related to force protection, 
homeland defense, joint force lethality, long range fires, ISR, 
training, and logistics enablers should be a part of our future efforts 
to make military conflict less likely in the Pacific.
                          guam defense system
    31. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, the top item on your unfunded 
requirements list is missile defense capability for Guam, which you 
call the ``Guam Defense System''(GDS) and that you requested $350 
million to begin acquiring in fiscal year 2022. Can you please explain: 
A) why protecting Guam is important to defending allies and partners 
like Taiwan; B) how China's missile arsenal threatens Guam, and C) how 
the Guam Defense System would provide protection?
    Admiral Davidson. A) Guam is a United States Territory and is part 
of the United States Homeland. Guam provides the most capable and 
important force projection and logistics capabilities in the Western 
Pacific. Guam enables our ability to mitigate the tyranny of distance 
in the Indo-Pacific' s geography as a critical hub in our supply chain 
and logistics enterprise. It also provides a deep-water strategic port, 
major fuel stores, munitions stores, command and control, and is a 
major power projection airfield for the United States in the region. 
Guam is essential to deterring China's aggression and assuring United 
States allies and partners in the region.
    B) China understands the importance of Guam to the United States' 
ability to project power in the Westem Pacific and has developed a 
credible missile force capable of attacking Guam and all of the United 
States' major allies in the region. In September 2020, the PRC 
showcased this capability in a propaganda video of their own bomber 
forces attacking Anderson Air Force Base in Guam.
    C) The nucleus for the Guam Defense System is the Aegis Combat 
System (ACS). ACS provides point and area defense. It can integrate 
Navy and Army current Programs of Record land-based sensors, 
interceptors, and command and control systems to provide 360-degree 
defense of Guam from the full range of PRC threats.

    32. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, your Fiscal Year 2021 
National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) section 1251 report proposes 
to use a version of Aegis Ashore as the solution to defend Guam against 
Chinese ballistic, cruise, and advanced cruise missiles. What are the 
reasons you selected the Aegis Ashore system over other options?
    Admiral Davidson. The solution I recommend represents the only 
capability within our current inventory of systems that will meet a 
2026 delivery timeline.

    33. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, the cost of the Guam Defense 
System as proposed in the Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA section 1251 report is 
about $1.65 billion over the Future Years Defense Program (FYDP), $350 
million of which would be in fiscal year 2022. What components of a 
full missile defense capability does the cost include (e.g. does it 
include the interceptors, launchers, and other components)?
    Admiral Davidson. The Guam Defense System (GDS) initial 
configuration, includes Aegis Baseline (B/L) 10, solid state radar 
(SPY-6 or SPY-7 variant), MK-41 VLS, Aegis Ashore, and SM3/SM6 missiles 
to mitigate known defensive and offensive gaps for the defense of Guam. 
It also incorporates a separate elevated sensor, Naval Integrated Fire 
Control-Counter Air (NIFC-CA) capability, and Cooperative Engagement 
Capability (CEC) that provides a baseline architecture to set the 
'standards and protocols' for a 21st century Joint Fires Network (JFN).
                                 taiwan
    34. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, Xi Jinping has been clear he 
does not rule out the use of force as a potential means of achieving 
the unification of Taiwan. Oriana Mastro, a respected scholar on China, 
recently wrote that ``For the first time in Chinese history, Xi will 
have at his disposal a military capable of forcing unification.'' She 
goes on to say that while many Western observers think China will able 
to take the island in the next 5 to 8 years, Chinese military leaders 
have told her that they will be ready within a year. When does the 
Communist Party leadership in Beijing believe the Chinese military will 
be ready to invade and successfully occupy Taiwan?
    Admiral Davidson. We do not know when Xi or other Party leaders 
believe the PLA will be ready; however, they are clearly pressing the 
PLA to be ready ``sooner'' rather than ``later.'' The recent 
announcement that 2027 is a new milestone for PLA modernization may be 
a reflection of increased urgency. 2027 is a notable year because it 
will mark the centennial of the PLA and the end of Xi Jinping's 
presumed third term. Xi also stated that they cannot prolong the Taiwan 
issue indefinitely, and the only acceptable resolution is unification.
    PLA leaders are undoubtedly looking at all aspects of the problem--
capacity, capability, readiness, level of training, and will to fight 
for the PLA, Taiwan, and the United States--to determine when 
conditions are likely to lead to PLA success. Under certain 
circumstances, the PRC would almost certainly order military action 
immediately, regardless of assessed risk, such as a Taiwan declaration 
of independence.

    35. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, how is China using its 
exercises to prepare for a Taiwan conflict?
    Admiral Davidson. China focuses much of its training on preparing 
for a military contingency against Taiwan. PLA leaders, especially 
those in the Eastern Theater Command--which is responsible for Taiwan--
design exercises to rehearse and improve critical aspects of a Taiwan 
contingency, including amphibious landings, air and missile support, 
maritime interdiction, electronic warfare, and space and cyber support. 
Many of these exercises occur in the Taiwan Strait or nearby for 
realism and to familiarize PLA forces with the operational environment. 
China attempts to amplify such training with heavy media coverage, 
touting PLA proficiency and overmatch against Taiwan. PRC state media 
said a September 2020 event was ``not a warning, but a rehearsal for a 
Taiwan takeover.''

    36. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, as General H.R. McMaster said 
last week at a hearing on global security challenges, ``Taiwan may 
represent the most dangerous flashpoint for war''. He then went on to 
say because of that very real threat, ``it is immensely important to 
keep forward positioned capable forces [in the Indo-Pacific]''. As Co-
Chair of the Taiwan caucus, I'm worried that a Chinese invasion of 
Taiwan would present a hard test for United States military response 
times. Can you talk about why United States forward positioned forces 
are so important, and what you mean by forward positioned--where do 
those forces need to be?
    Admiral Davidson. Forward positioned forces includes permanently-
based and rotational joint forces that are west of the International 
Date Line. The combination of forward-based and rotational forces 
provides persistent presence that is the most credible way to 
demonstrate U.S. commitment and resolve to potential adversaries while 
simultaneously assuring allies and partners. In the event of crisis or 
conflict, forward forces are able to respond more quickly.

    37. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, at a Senate Armed Services 
Committee hearing last week on global security challenges, General 
McMaster said ``There's a race ongoing right now to help Taiwan harden 
its defenses to make itself indigestible prior to the period of . . . 
greatest danger which is from 2022 onwards, based on the conclusion of 
the Beijing Winter Olympics and based on the Communist party 
congress.'' The Trump administration removed many obstacles to 
cooperation and engagement with Taiwan. It's now up to the Biden 
administration to build on this new opportunity. What kind of 
activities and arms sales should be pursued to help Taiwan ``make 
itself indigestible''?
    Admiral Davidson. Consistent with the Taiwan Relations Act, the 
United States provides Taiwan defense articles and services to allow 
Taiwan to maintain sufficient self-defense capabilities commensurate 
with the threat that Taiwan faces. Given the growing disparity in the 
cross-Strait balance of military power, we encourage Taiwan to purchase 
large quantities of asymmetric systems that are highly mobile, lethal, 
and survivable, to include coastal defense cruise missiles (CDCMs), 
short-and medium range air defenses, and sea mines. I also believe 
Taiwan needs to modernize and sustain critical conventional 
capabilities like F-16V; Patriot missiles; and modem ships, submarines, 
and aircraft. We also encourage Taiwan to expand Reserve Forces 
integration, improve irregular warfare capabilities, prioritize service 
interoperability, and develop and implement joint doctrine and a 
professional non-commissioned officer corps.
                     indopacom security assistance
    38. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Davidson, on 4 February 2021, President 
Biden said ``our alliances are our greatest asset'' and that they have 
``atrophied'' over the past few years. One of the primary PDI lines of 
effort is to strengthen allies and partners. As I understand it, you've 
requested about $425 million for security assistance in fiscal year 
2022 to help strengthen allies and partners. We have been ``pivoting to 
the Pacific'' for many years now. There is bipartisan support for the 
statement that ``allies and partners are our asymmetric advantage'' 
against China. But somehow the percentage of security assistance that 
goes to Indo-Pacific to strengthen allies and partners has, at best, 
remained level. Do you agree it ought to be growing? Why do you think 
it hasn't?
    Admiral Davidson. USINDOPACOM works closely with our allies and 
partners on proposals and potential solutions that address their 
security concerns in an achievable and maintainable way. The annual 
requested amount for USINDOPACOM security assistance increases at a 
measured rate year to year, in keeping with what our allies and 
partners can take on, and what USINDOPACOM can reasonably execute in 
one to two fiscal years. As our ally and partner political, military, 
and/or logistics infrastructure situations improve, USINDOPACOM 
requests will increase commensurate with the security challenges.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Roger F. Wicker
graphic depicting force laydown of united states and pacific allies vs. 
                                 china
    39. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, Appendix 1 to Enclosure (1) 
of your section 1251 report includes a graphic comparing Chinese forces 
and United States Forces (stationed west of the International Date 
Line). Can you provide a similar graphic that contrasts Chinese forces 
with both United States and Pacific ally forces?
    Admiral Davidson. I provided the requested graphic to SASC staff on 
16 March 2021. They will control or disseminate the document in 
accordance with the appropriate procedures for the applicable 
classification.
                                 taiwan
    40. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, your third command focus area 
is ``strengthening allies and partners.'' A key strategic partner who 
shares our interest in deterring Chinese aggression is Taiwan. Although 
they benefit from foreign military sales, we do not conduct bilateral 
training exercises or personnel exchanges with Taiwan that we do with 
other important partner nations. Admiral, would you like to see greater 
official coordination between our military and Taiwan?
    Admiral Davidson. USINDOPACOM will continue to advise Taiwan on 
military capabilities, interoperability, readiness, and professional 
development through security cooperation and foreign military sales in 
accordance with the Taiwan Relations Act. Greater official coordination 
between the United States and Taiwan through bilateral or multilateral 
military exercises could prove beneficial. I would look forward to the 
discussion.

    41. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, what measures do you think 
could be taken in the near term to strengthen the United States-Taiwan 
military partnership?
    Admiral Davidson. Consistent with the Taiwan Relation Act, in the 
near term USINDOPACOM will provide Taiwan defense articles and services 
that allow Taiwan to maintain sufficient self-defense capabilities. 
Given the growing disparity in the cross-Strait balance of military 
power, we encourage Taiwan to purchase large quantities of asymmetric 
systems that are highly mobile, lethal, and survivable, to include 
coastal defense cruise missiles (CDCMs), short- and medium-range air 
defenses, and sea mines. I also believe Taiwan needs to modernize and 
sustain critical conventional capabilities like F-16V; Patriot 
missiles; and modem ships, submarines, and aircraft. We will also focus 
on improving the Taiwan military' sjoint interoperability, readiness, 
and non-commissioned officer corps professional development through 
subject matter expert exchanges, key leader visits, steering groups and 
working groups.
                          amphibious warships
    42. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, the Marine Corps is shifting 
their operational concepts to focus on smaller, more distributed 
forces. Part of their proposal includes building large numbers of what 
is being called the Light Amphibious Warship--a much smaller, lightly 
armed ship than our current amphibious classes. I'm concerned that 
these shorter range vessels, in addition to being less survivable, will 
create a need for more forward bases. These forward bases would 
themselves be vulnerable to attack, especially by ballistic missiles. 
This vulnerability seems to be exactly one of the concerns the Pacific 
Deterrence Initiative (PDI) is trying to address. Are you comfortable 
with your ability to protect these widely dispersed Marine Corps 
forces?
    Admiral Davidson. With the right investments we can protect our 
forward-based and rotational forces. Operating from dispersed locations 
requires a sophisticated balance of distributed locations to sustain 
the Joint Force. A more distributed, smaller footprint is better to 
defend against adversary efforts to find, fix, track, and ultimately 
target our forces operating from large, fixed bases in contested 
environments.

    43. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, what role do you foresee the 
larger amphibious classes of ships playing in future competition with 
China?
    Admiral Davidson. U.S. amphibious ships are key enablers. They 
provide a specific capability that can be used both during peacetime, 
such as to enable Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Relief 
operations, and in armed conflict, to provide a rapidly deployable 
forcible entry capability and visible deterrent. Based on the large 
number of island and archipelago nations in the AOR, the large 
amphibious ships will support operations across the spectrum of 
conflict. The United States must continue to procure new large 
amphibious ships, while also modernizing our existing platforms.
                               destroyers
    44. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, you have established the Guam 
air and missile defense system as your top priority for PDI funding. I 
understand that at present we rely on the DDG 51 class ships to provide 
much of the missile defense in that area. The terrible collisions 
involving the destroyers USS Fitzgerald and the USS John S. McCain in 
2017 highlighted how hard we are working those ships and their crews. 
With the quantitative imbalance growing every year between our naval 
forces and China's, have we been able to reduce the operational demands 
on the crews of our forward deployed ships?
    Admiral Davidson. The Comprehensive Review on USS Fitzgerald and 
USS John S. McCain collision led to an Optimized Fleet Response Plan 
Japan (OFRP-J) for the Forward Deployed Naval Force Japan (FDNF-J) 
ships assigned to Commander, U.S. Pacific Fleet. OFRP-J mandates 
dedicated time for maintenance, training, and certification prior to 
operational employment. OPNAV has issued updated PERSTEMPO I OPTEMPO 
policy for all operational units to include FDNF-J ships. The OFRP-J 
and PERSTEMPO I OPTEMPO Policy supports the overall readiness of an 
FDNF-J ship that is sustainable. However, it does not reduce the 
overall operational demand for ships.
    The deployment of a fixed Guam Defense System would help alleviate 
the operational demands that ships now undertake in their ballistic 
missile defense of Guam mission, and the three likely required during 
any conflict.

    45. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, do you have enough DDGs to 
carry out your missions today?
    Admiral Davidson. No. We have some shortfalls in availability, and 
there are challenges to scheduling because of worldwide requirements.
                    electronic warfare improvements
    46. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, what is the importance of the 
Navy Growler to the survivability of our forces and the fielding of the 
Next Generation Jammer to the Indo Pacific Theater?
    Admiral Davidson. The Navy EA-18G Growlers are a critical part of 
our airborne electromagnetic attack (AEA) capability supporting 
Operation Plan (OPLAN) and scheme of maneuver survivability. The 
complex threat of emitters produced by near-peer competitors contest 
freedom of maneuver in the electromagnetic spectrum (EMS). The Growler 
and Next Generation Jammer (NGJ) are required AEA capabilities for the 
foreseeable future, to include supporting 5th and 6th generation 
aircraft. To maintain U.S. military overmatch in the EMS, NGJ provides 
new capabilities to ensure spectrum dominance.

    47. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, are you concerned about the 
extended use of the legacy jammer system (ALQ-99)?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes, I am concerned. The sole Airborne 
Electromagnetic Attack Tactical Jamming System replacement -Next 
Generation Jammer (NGJ) -must not fall behind in fleet delivery. NGJ
    will provide new capabilities to the fleet to ensure spectrum 
dominance. The Airborne Electromagnetic Attack community has been 
relying on the ALQ-99 Tactical Jamming System for decades but is facing 
material and technological obsolescence that cannot counter all current 
threats.

    48. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, is there an acceptable level 
of risk between continuing to operate the legacy system and 
accelerating new technology deliveries like the ALQ-249 mid band pod?
    Admiral Davidson. There is always a balance between fiscal 
realities and developing/fielding advanced capabilities. Our current 
schedule for the ALQ-249 (Next Generation Jammer [NGJ]), if it remains 
on-plan, will balance the risk against our adversary's pace of 
technological development and our advantage in airborne electromagnetic 
tactical jamming capability. The Engineering and development for the 
NGJ includes three increments: #1 mid-band, #2 low-band, #3 high-band. 
The three increments take into account assessed capabilities of 
developing threats, shortfalls of the legacy system, and risk 
mitigation.

    49. Senator Wicker. Admiral Davidson, would you support a more 
accelerated and cost effective solution to field the high band 
technology?
    Admiral Davidson. Yes. I would support a cost-effective approach 
that accelerates the timeline for the Next Generation Jammer increment 
#3 high-band capability. I do not support changing the order of 
increments, delaying the current schedule, or reducing capability of 
mid-band or low-band to accelerate high-band. While the high-band 
capability remains a priority to cover a portion of the threat, mid-
band and low-band remain the preeminent capability to cover the most 
critical threats.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                              force design
    50. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, noted China scholar Oriana 
Skyler-Mastro postulates that ``if Beijing thinks the U.S. will 
intervene on Taiwan's behalf, then time becomes crucial. Chinese 
military strategists believe that if you let the United States fight 
the way it is used to, which includes time to mobilize and amass 
firepower in theater, then victory is unlikely.'' Given that Chinese 
strategists do not intend to let the United States build up military 
power in the Indo-Pacific if they decide to use military force in the 
region, how important are U.S. Forces west of the international 
dateline and can you defend those forces as currently postured?
    Admiral Davidson. My primary responsibility is to deter adversary 
aggression and prevent conflict. Persistent presence through forward-
based and rotational joint forces is the most credible way to 
demonstrate our commitment and resolve to potential adversaries and 
deter aggression. With the right investments we can protect our 
forward-based and rotational forces. In the most austere environments, 
forces may rely more on inherent capabilities and passive defensive 
measures. In more established environments, forces may rely on a 
balanced mixture of passive defensive measures, active defenses, and 
hardening of critical infrastructure. Finally, we are implementing many 
measures to allow for more agile and distributed operations from 
multiple smaller locations to increase survivability.

    51. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, the Department of Defense is 
prioritizing contested logistics as part of the forthcoming Joint 
Warfighting Concept. From your seat as commander of INDOPACOM, how big 
of an issue is contested logistics and can you give us some examples of 
how investments could improve our ability to conduct contested 
logistics operations?
    Admiral Davidson. Current INDOPACOM posture and Joint Logistics 
Enterprise capabilities are neither agile nor resilient enough against 
a peer competitor, such as the PRC. The Indo-Pacific is a vast, 
archipelagic theater with long lines of communication (LOC). We must 
transition from an obsolete North East Asia-heavy posture to a more 
forward, lethal, distributed and robust presence throughout the region, 
ideally including the Philippines and Oceania. This will require 
significant investments in basing infrastructure especially at key 
ports of debarkation.
    We must invest in intra-theater airlift, sealift, and land-based 
distribution that utilize an array of capabilities to include a mix of 
autonomous, shallow draft, and surface and submersible vehicles, as 
well as the ability to rapidly and selectively self-discharge. Intra-
theater sealift must be able to swiftly facilitate cargo transfers to 
other vessels, and ground transports.
    These vessels also must be able to onload and offload in degraded 
or non-existent infrastructure and must have resilient, secure 
communication and navigation suites to mitigate cybersecurity 
vulnerabilities. Finally, more flexible and responsive bulk fueling 
capabilities is required. Refueling vessels must conduct fast 
replenishment at sea, and delivery to port fuel terminals and units 
over the shore.

    52. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, Marine Corps Force Design 
would possibly reduce the number of F-35 Joint Strike Fighters per 
squadron from 16 to 10. There has been no official change to the 
program of record, however, General David Berger is signaling to the 
industry that we have to be prepared to adjust as the operating 
environment adjusts. Facilitation of contested logistics depends 
largely on operational enablers that allow maneuver within the 
battlespace. One such enabler in the region is the 5th generation 
fighter, specifically Marine Corps F-35s. Service level force design 
initiatives look to reduce the number of Marine Corps F-35s per 
squadron. Can you address how this reduction in aircraft may affect 
operations within your area of responsibility?
    Admiral Davidson. USINDOPACOM maintains the requirement for the F-
35, in all its variants. 5th generation aircraft provide the most 
advanced ability to access, maneuver, and survive in Anti-Access and 
Area-Denial (A2/AD) environments. We incur severe risk to executing 
joint operations without 5th generation capability.
                ground-based long-range precision fires
    53. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, one of your top unfunded 
priorities is ground-based, long-range precision fires. Can you discuss 
why this is a key priority and explain some of the specific 
capabilities you believe the new system will need to have?
    Admiral Davidson. Long-range Chinese air-to-air, air-to-surface, 
and surface-to-surface weapons currently challenge United States 
freedom of maneuver. Ground-based, precision fires will help enable 
maneuver in the air and maritime domain. New capabilities must include: 
anti-ship capabilities; survivable ISR that can track large numbers of 
mobile targets; resilient Joint All Domain Command and Control (JADC2); 
new, Joint, advanced, distributed battle management systems with rapid 
sensor-to-shooter timelines; and a range of land, sea, and air deployed 
long-range weapons able to target ships and mobile and fixed land 
systems.

    54. Admiral Davidson, which of the current service long-range 
precision fire research and development (R&D) programs do you believe 
hold particular promise in meeting your combatant command requirements?
    Admiral Davidson. We support all the Services' R&D efforts for 
long-range and hypersonic weapon systems. Critical for the Army and 
USMC long-range fires capability is the development of Tomahawk and SM6 
missiles, capabilities advocated for by USINDOPACOM since the 
introduction of Regain the Advantage. USINDOPACOM's priority for 
hypersonic systems include Air-launched Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW), 
Navy Conventional Prompt Strike (CPS), and Long Range Hypersonic Weapon 
(LRHW). Other systems of interest in development are the Hypersonic 
Air-launched Cruise Missile (HACM); Southern Cross Integrated Flight 
Research Experimentation (SCIFiRE), a bilateral partnership with 
Australia; Ground Based Anti-Ship Missile (GBASM); and Contender 
Torpedo. In addition to R&D programs, we are strong proponents for our 
Pacific Multi-Domain Test and Experimentation Capability (PMTEC) to 
enable advanced experimentation, testing, training, and coupling of 
capabilities.
             defense posture realignment initiative (dpri)
    55. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, DPRI is the program of record 
negotiated with the Government of Japan, which also provided $3.1 
billion, to relocate Marine Corps Forces from Okinawa to Guam. The 
executive summary of the INDOPACOM report for section 1251 of the 
Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA indicates that getting INDOPACOM's force design 
and posture `` . . . begins with completing the Defense Posture 
Realignment Initiative (DPRI), the current program of record enables 
sustainment operations and provides the necessary lift for Marine 
forces scheduled to relocate from Okinawa to Guam.'' Japan is providing 
$3.1 billion in contributions (in fiscal year 2012 dollars) or about 1/
3 of the estimated cost. On 6 January 2021, the Navy awarded $990 
million of Government of Japan funded multiple award construction 
contract for work primarily in Guam. INDOPACOM has indicated that 
forward-based forces within the second island chain are important to 
deterring Chinese aggression, and if necessary, responding to it. From 
your interaction with the Japanese, how important is the execution of 
the DPRI program as negotiated with and partially funded by the 
Government of Japan--how closely are they watching the execution of 
this program?
    Admiral Davidson. The Government of Japan (GOJ) strongly supports 
the DPRI program's relocation of Marines from Okinawa to Guam, and has 
committed significant financial contributions toward this end. Since 
its inception, successive GOJ administrations have prioritized 
execution of the DPRI program. The GOJ views DPRI's moves as critical 
to improving local support for the Alliance in Okinawa. The GOJ works 
collaboratively with all USG execution and planning agencies to include 
United States Forces Japan, Naval Facilities Command, U.S. Army Corps 
of Engineers, and Marine Corps Installations Command, among others.

    56. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, there are some concerns about 
the ability of Marine Corps to train for full spectrum combat when they 
are moved to Guam. Does the program of record adequately addresses this 
concern and mitigate potential issues from your perspective?
    Admiral Davidson. Relocating Marines from Japan to Guam requires 
significant investment in training ranges for full-spectrum training. 
Those requirements include all forms of training, from static small 
arms to aerial gunnery and convoy live fire. To address these 
requirements, USINDOPACOM developed the Combined Joint Marianas 
Training (CJMT) concept and the Pacific Multi-Domain Test and 
Experimentation Capability (PMTEC). These two efforts, when resourced 
and complete, combined with training in Northwest Australia provided by 
Marine Rotational Forces-Darwin (MRF-D), will adequately meet the full-
spectrum training requirements for the Marines in Guam.

    57. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, so the Committee can better 
understand some of the tradeoffs involved, what would be the impact, in 
your opinion, of moving those 5,000 marines and their dependents to 
locations east of the international date line rather than putting them 
in Guam on: a) deterrence, b) their ability to do full spectrum 
training, and c) the confidence of our partners and allies in the 
region?
    Admiral Davidson. Time and lift capacity are critical for enabling 
the Joint Force with a Marine force capable of responding to a crisis. 
Allies and partners would likely interpret moving the Marines and their 
dependents east of the International Date Line as a lack of United 
States commitment to the region given the distances to the South and 
East China Sea. Meanwhile, our adversaries could be emboldened by 
decreased United States presence. Keeping expeditionary training in 
Guam while maintaining a solid footprint in Japan provides for 
responsible, politically stable, and timely options to maneuver inside 
the First Island Chain during crisis. Presence matters--both permanent 
and rotational.

    58. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, what is the current status of 
Futenma base relocation, the current challenges as you see them, and 
how worried are you that the construction won't be successfully 
completed?
    Admiral Davidson. The 2013 Okinawa Consolidation Plan designates 
the target date for completion of the Futenma Replacement Facility 
(FRF) program as 2022 or later. In 2020, the Okinawa Defense Bureau 
estimated completion in 2032, but that is a best-case estimate given 
current progress and anticipated obstacles. Currently, the FRF has 
approximately 10 percent of an estimated 206 projects complete. Another 
13 projects (6 percent) are currently under construction. Approximately 
4 percent of the total landfill required is complete. The Government of 
Japan is also resolving local construction and engineering issues. We 
are confident in the Government of Japan's ability to complete the 
project and the Government of Japan has repeatedly and publicly 
committed to doing so.

    59. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, what would be the impact if 
the project is not completed?
    Admiral Davidson. The FRF will have significant deterrence 
capability in the AOR and will also provide for enhanced defense of 
Japan. This FRF gives USINDOPACOM a substantial power projection 
platform for Marine forces. Any barriers to completion inhibit United 
States treaty obligations with Japan and negatively impact credible 
deterrence in the region.
                                 taiwan
    60. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, due to People's Liberation 
Army's (PLA) escalating military coercion against Taiwan over past 
years, this Committee has strongly supported maintaining the stability 
and prosperity across the Taiwan Strait. Moreover, the exchange of 
senior officers and military personnel in all levels between the United 
States and Taiwan are critical to the development of Taiwan's 
asymmetric defense strategy and capability. Does INDOPACOM plan to 
support future personnel exchanges?
    Admiral Davidson. USINDOPACOM will continue engagements with Taiwan 
that focus on improving joint interoperability within Taiwan's 
military, enhancing Taiwan training and exercises, improving Taiwan's 
readiness, and supporting Taiwan's military professional development. 
Current and planned engagements include virtual key leader engagements, 
senior leader visits, institutional dialogues and steering groups at 
the Flag/General Officer level; academic and professional military 
education exchanges; subject matter expert working groups; conferences 
and symposia. Taiwan personnel also attend a variety of United States 
intermediate and senior service schools and enlisted professional 
military education courses.
                         5th generation fighter
    61. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, can you confirm that 5th 
generation airpower is a requirement for your mission in INDOPACOM, and 
can you explain how 5th generation aircraft, like F-22 and F-35, meet 
that requirement?
    Admiral Davidson. The F-35 and F-22 aircraft are vital to our 
USINDOPACOM mission to counter a near-peer's highly advanced, multi-
dimensional, integrated defense networks. Stealth technology, combined 
with other formidable 5th generation capabilities, increases 
survivability and effectiveness in an A2/AD environment. The F-35 
combined with the F-22's air dominance allows the US the ability to 
achieve air superiority in a contested environment.

    62. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, many of our key allies in the 
Indo-Pacific region are participants in the F-35 program. In your 
opinion, has the F-35 program had a positive impact on both military 
and diplomatic relations with these key allies?
    Admiral Davidson. The F-35 program demonstrates the positive 
impacts of working with allies and partners on modem weapon platforms. 
The F-35 program has allowed the United States to increase its level of 
collaboration and interoperability, which is also increasing ally and 
partner willingness to be net security providers. Furthermore, this 
level of shared technology improves interoperability with our allies 
and partners, which will enhance our combined exercises, training, 
operations, and ability to enhance coalition and joint force readiness.

    63. Senator Tillis. Admiral Davidson, China's advanced air defenses 
and fighter capabilities are rapidly increasing in capability and 
capacity. These capabilities are pushing 4th generation aircraft to 
greater stand-off ranges, often times beyond the targeting ranges of 
their weapons and sensors. Can you explain the importance of stand-in 
capabilities, such as 5th generation aircraft, and what advantages they 
provide if an engagement with China were to occur?
    Admiral Davidson. 5th generation fighters provide deterrence and 
operational capabilities like stealth and advanced avionics 
specifically designed to operate in an Anti-Access and Area-Denial (A2/
AD) environment. 5th generation capabilities allow for better 
detection, targeting, and jamming of threats to achieve air 
superiority, suppression of enemy air defenses, and precise air-to-
surface targeting. All of these requirements are essential to minimize 
losses if an engagement with China were to occur.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                   operating in an a2/ad environment
    64. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, the People's Republic of 
China has the capability, capacity and reach to employ thousands of 
missiles within the first island chain and hundreds of missiles in the 
second. This vast, asymmetrical arsenal will likely increase over the 
next several years. With that in mind, what do you consider to be the 
right mix of forward, blunt forces west of the International Date Line 
(IDL) and surge forces east of the International Date Line?
    Admiral Davidson. The force posture recommendations identified in 
the Section 1251 Independent Assessment provide the foundation for 
fielding an integrated joint force west of the IDL and a sophisticated 
improvement in interoperability with our regional allies and partners. 
The permanent forces currently located in Japan; rotational forces 
sequenced through viable locations in the Philippines and the Ryuku 
islands; and command and control, logistics, integrated air missile 
defense and Marine Littoral Combat Regiments in Guam provide the 
foundation for blunt forces needed west of the IDL.

    65. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, considering the robust Anti 
Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) environment of the Indo-Pacific, and the 
over 100 combat coded 5th generation fighter aircraft postured in 
Alaska, does it not makes sense to also base the next generation tanker 
(e.g. KC-46) in that state to serve as an air bridge to rapidly surge 
those fighters to the forward edge of a conflict in the Indo-Pacific?
    Admiral Davidson. USINDOPACOM needs the most modem, capable 
platforms strategically positioned to best support forces west of the 
International Date Line to ensure a ready and responsive deterrent 
force posture. This includes a distributed force posture that ensures 
rapid employment and survivability of joint forces. Given the force 
posture and robust training activities in Alaska, which will be further 
enhanced by the Pacific Multi-domain Training and Experimentation 
Capability (PMTEC), the need to distribute logistics capability as well 
as the 5th generation fighters also exists.

    66. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, what concerns do you have 
regarding our ability to resupply and sustain operations--especially 
across a distributed posture--in an A2/AD environment?
    Admiral Davidson. The tyranny of distance requires a distributed 
capacity to sustain the Joint Force across the islands and archipelagos 
of the first island chain and the Pacific Island Nations in the second 
and third island chains. The right composition of logistics platforms, 
nodes, ports, and supplier networks, along with appropriate protection 
is critical. The Joint Force must have sufficient visibility and 
interoperability within the network to prioritize and sustain the Joint 
Forces. We must achieve the same level of integration and 
interoperability with our allies and partners to conduct anticipatory 
logistics sustainment in every domain.

    67. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, what recommendations do you 
have to mitigate those concerns?
    Admiral Davidson. PDI requirements provide the foundation for 
establishing a distributed posture designed to deter aggression, assure 
our allies and partners, and if needed, transition to crisis or combat 
operations. We should continue to increase our joint force lethality by 
fielding systems and capabilities such as highly survivable, precision-
strike networks along the first island chain, 5th generation F-35 
capabilities, resilient and redundant joint/multinational command and 
control networks, enhance logistics capability with prepositioned 
stores and Service agnostic infrastructure, and investments to re-
posture fuel in the theater at point of need. These investments are key 
to ensuring U.S. freedom of action or access to vital waterways, 
airspace, and other lines of communication in an A2/AD environment.

    68. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, what concerns do you have 
regarding operational concepts--such as agile combat employment--the 
Services are developing to achieve a theory of victory in the region?
    Admiral Davidson. I am encouraged by the Service operational 
concepts but concerned with the ability of the Joint Force to integrate 
the Service-specific capabilities. The three functional areas we must 
address to close the gaps and make these Service operational concepts 
viable include the need to address the joint iterdependencies in the 
areas of command and control, integrated fires (offensive and 
defensive), and theater logistics.

    69. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, what risk are we assuming 
provided the services cannot execute those concepts for a sustained 
period of time today?
    Admiral Davidson. As the Indo-Pacific's military balance becomes 
more unfavorable, the United States is assuming significant risk of an 
outcome that is unfavorable to the United States and our allies and 
partners.
             defense posture realignment initiative (dpri)
    70. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, DPRI is the program of 
record negotiated with the Government of Japan, which provided $3.1 
billion or about 1/3 of the estimated cost, to relocate Marine Corps 
Forces from Okinawa to Guam. The executive summary of the INDOPACOM 
report for section 1251 of the Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA indicates the 
force design and posture effort: `` . . . begins with completing the 
Defense Posture Realignment Initiative (DPRI) . . . '' From your 
interaction with our host nation counterparts, how important is the 
execution of the DPRI program to the Government of Japan?
    Admiral Davidson. The Government of Japan (GOJ) strongly supports 
the DPRI program's relocation of Marines from Okinawa to Guam, and has 
committed significant financial contributions toward this end. Since 
its inception, successive GOJ administrations have prioritized 
execution of the DPRI program. The GOJ views DPRI's moves as critical 
to improving local support for the Alliance in Okinawa. The GOJ works 
collaboratively with all USG execution and planning agencies to include 
United States Forces Japan, Naval Facilities Command, U.S. Army Corps 
of Engineers, and Marine Corps Installations Command, among others.

    71. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, there are some concerns 
about the ability of Marine Corps to train for full spectrum combat 
when they are moved to Guam. Can you outline what shortfalls currently 
exist if the move were to occur today?
    Admiral Davidson. Relocating Marines from Japan to Guam requires 
significant investment in training ranges for full-spectrum training. 
Those requirements include all forms of training, from static small 
arms to aerial gunnery and convoy live fire. To address these 
requirements, USINDOPACOM developed the Combined Joint Marianas 
Training (CJMT) concept and the Pacific Multi-Domain Test and 
Experimentation Capability (PMTEC). These two efforts, when resourced 
and complete, combined with training in Northwest Australia provided by 
Marine Rotational Forces-Darwin (MRF-D), will adequately meet the full-
spectrum training requirements for the Marines in Guam.

    72. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, does the current DPRI 
program of record adequately address these shortfalls?
    Admiral Davidson. The current DPRI program includes development of 
the CNMI Joint Military Training (CJMT) complex. The Government of 
Japan is contributing approximately $300M (33 percent cost sharing with 
the United States) to the development of CJMT. Upon completion, CJMT 
will provide the joint force its most robust, multi-domain training 
capability in the Western Pacific. In an unprecedented way, it will 
build readiness while simultaneously retaining viable deterrent forces 
west of the International Date Line. CJMT will address forty-two joint 
training opportunities, to include amphibious assault, combined arms 
maneuver, and individual skills training, including military operations 
in urban terrain. This training, along with the lift capabilities 
described in my 1251 report, will improve current-training capabilities 
and will introduce all-new joint and multi-national training 
opportunities in the Western Pacific.

    73. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, so that I can better 
understand some of the tradeoffs involved with respect to: a) 
deterrence, b) ability to do full spectrum training, and c) the 
confidence of our partners and allies--what would be the impact, in 
your opinion, of moving those 5,000 marines and their dependents to 
locations east of the International Date Line--say for instance, 
Alaska?
    Admiral Davidson. Time and lift capacity are critical for enabling 
the Joint Force with a Marine force capable of responding to a crisis 
or conflict. It would take approximately 15 days to move 5,000 Marines 
from Alaska to East Asia by sea compared to approximately five days 
from Guam. Allies and partners would likely interpret moving the 
Marines and their dependents east of the International Date Line (IDL) 
as a lack of United States commitment to the region given the distances 
to the South China Sea. Meanwhile, our adversaries could be emboldened 
by decreased U.S. presence. Keeping expeditionary training in Guam 
while maintaining a solid footprint in Japan provides for responsible, 
politically stable, and timely options to maneuver inside the First 
Island Chain during crisis or conflict. Presence matters -both 
permanent and rotational.
       north korea missile capabilities and cooperation with iran
    74. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, in your statement for the 
record, you highlight: `` . . . North Korea will remain our most 
immediate threat.'' You go on to state: ``Pyongyang maintains a diverse 
and growing missile inventory, and North Korea unveiled several new 
ballistic systems . . . including two SLBMs [submarine-launches 
ballistic missiles] and an ICBM.'' Finally, you conclude that: 
``Pyongyang's missile research and development efforts . . . are 
consistent with the regime's stated objective of being able to strike 
the U.S. Homeland.'' Can you broadly discuss how North Korea's missile 
program has advanced over the course of your assignment as the 
INDOPACOM commander?
    Admiral Davidson. When I assumed command in May 2018, the tensions 
that had spiked in 2017 when North Korea conducted a series of long-
range missile launches had subsided greatly. However, at no time did 
Kim Jong Un reduce his support for his missile program or continued 
ballistic missile development. North Korea resumed short-range missile 
tests in mid-2019, likely for research and development purposes and to 
remind the international community of the North's capabilities. During 
parades in October 2020 and January 2021, North Korea displayed several 
previously unseen new missiles, including several short-range missiles, 
two submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and a larger, possibly 
longer-range ICBM, as well as several previously tested missiles. In 
all, North Korea paraded 10 ballistic missile systems, all of which 
they have developed in the past 5 years.

    75. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, how would you characterize 
North Korea's missile program advancement--in terms of risk--to both 
our regionally based forces and the U.S. Homeland?
    Admiral Davidson. North Korea's missile program is a clear threat 
to the region and a growing threat to United States Homeland, including 
Guam, Hawaii, and the continental United States. The risk to regionally 
based United States Forces and our allies and partners has increased in 
recent years with the testing and fielding of short-, medium-, and 
intermediate-range ballistic missiles. North Korea has demonstrated 
improved mobile missile launch tactics, improved missile accuracy, and 
rapid-fire capabilities. Kim Jong Un maintains modest, but almost 
certainly growing, inventories of theater-strike missiles. His 
intercontinental-range missile program is still only partially proven, 
but Kim Jong Un is committed to developing a nuclear-armed ICBM capable 
of threatening the continental United States.

    76. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, provided you are able to 
answer in this forum--how long would you estimate until North Korea's 
missile capability and range can reach the continental United States?
    Admiral Davidson. North Korea is committed to developing a nuclear-
armed ICBM capable of posing a direct threat to the continental United 
States. Pyongyang conducted its inaugural series of ICBM flight-tests 
in 2017, marking a significant developmental milestone, and during an 
October 2020 military parade unveiled a new and larger ICBM that has 
not yet been flight-tested.
    ICBMs are complex systems that require multiple flight tests to 
identify and correct defects and ensure the survivability and 
operational performance of the reentry vehicle and warhead. As such, 
while we lack confidence in the reliability and accuracy of North 
Korea's ICBMs, we must assume that they are capable of reaching the 
continental United States and plan accordingly.

    77. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, the United Nations provided 
a report to the Security Council in February that confirmed North Korea 
and Iran resumed cooperation on development of long-range missiles last 
year. This reporting followed shortly after North Korea showcased their 
largest ICBM, believed capable of carrying a nuclear warhead across the 
United States. To me this is exceptionally concerning as both countries 
would greatly benefit from the leveraged gained in being able to strike 
our Homeland. In your personal opinion, are we doing enough to develop 
and field both regional/homeland missile defense systems?
    Admiral Davidson. The ballistic missile threat facing United States 
interests in Northeast Asia remains significant and we are well 
postured to protect against existing threats from North Korea. However, 
we must prioritize investments in capabilities that address the 
aggregated challenges in the Indo-Pacific. Guam Defense System, an 
integrated air and missile defense capability on Guam, is required to 
defend against both North Korea and PRC missile threats. The Homeland 
Defense Radar-Hawaii is the most capable sensor available to defend 
Hawaii against North Korea's advanced long-range ICBM.

    78. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, how would you suggest we 
blunt the corrosive cooperation between these rogue nations?
    Admiral Davidson. The best way to blunt this sort of cooperation is 
to strengthen and expand the security architecture with our allies and 
partners to expose malign behavior and coercive tactics. These efforts 
increase information sharing and reinforce the common understanding of 
the regional security landscape.
              india: high-altitude, cold-weather training
    79. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, the U.S. Army will host 
Indian forces in Alaska this year to exercise high-altitude, cold-
weather combat skills. A Chinese military expert recently claimed that 
the Indian Army: ``has the world's largest and most experienced troops 
trained for high-altitude battles''. From my understanding, the same 
exercise will occur in the Himalayas in 2022. First, let me commend the 
efforts of INDOPACOM and U.S. Army in Alaska (USARAK) for cultivating 
this strategic partnership. Second, how can we advance it further to 
continue rebuilding robust Arctic capabilities that have atrophied 
significantly over the past decade?
    Admiral Davidson. We have much to learn from the Indian Army, which 
has a long history of operating at high altitudes and in extremely cold 
conditions. In 2018, for example, USARAK deployed personnel to visit 
the Indian High Altitude Warfare School (HAWS), the primary training 
institution for the Indian Army in cold and mountainous regions. 
Opportunities such as these allow United States and Indian forces to 
exchange best practices and lessons learned, improve interoperability, 
and further develop the United States-India bilateral relationship. We 
intend to seek similar exchanges and training in the future to improve 
our capabilities in austere mountainous environments.
               fostering indo-pacific military expertise
    80. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, given the Department of 
Defense's shift in priorities from violent extremist organizations in 
U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) to great power competition in 
INDOPACOM--as laid out in the 2018 National Defense Strategy and 
expressed by incoming DOD officials in the Biden administration--do you 
think Service Academies and other DOD educational institutions are 
adequately focused on educating our military officers and enlisted 
members to best understand and operate in the Indo-Pacific region? If 
not, in your personal opinion, how do we get after this knowledge and 
expertise shortfall?
    Admiral Davidson. The 2018 National Defense Strategy acknowledged a 
gap in professional military education (PME). In May 2020, The Joint 
Chiefs published ``Developing Today's Joint Officers for Tomorrow's 
Ways of War,'' and the Service Academies and other DOD educational 
institutions have been adjusting and aligning PME and talent management 
systems to further develop our military leaders for 21st century 
challenges.
    I believe there is still more to be done. Military leaders require 
more education on topics such as deterrence theory, innovation and 
experimentation, and a deeper understanding of the logistical and 
sustainment challenges operating in the Indo-Pacific Theater.
                 section 1251 report and range upgrades
    81. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, in your section 1251 
report, you identified range investments--which included the Pacific 
Multi-Domain Training and Experimentation Capability (PMTEC)--with the 
objective of creating a fully instrumented, live-virtual constructive 
(LVC) training areas throughout the Indo-Pacific. How would upgrading 
ranges--like the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex--with a Secure, 
Synthetic Inject to Live LVC (SITL LVC) air combat training capability 
help INDOPACOM meet its requirement to provide forces capable of 
fighting in highly contested environments against technologically 
advanced opponents?
    Admiral Davidson. PMTEC is critical for developing the training 
capacity to integrate Service-recommended weapons and capabilities into 
a joint warfighting concept that deters the adversary and trains our 
most capable warfighting force while expanding the breadth and scale of 
experimentation.
    LVC is integral to PMTEC and will offer the Joint Force more 
effective, realistic, all-domain training and experimentation training 
at the tactical and operational levels. Fully modem range complexes and 
analytical tools will provide the foundation of the Joint Fires 
Network.

    82. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Davidson, how would providing SITL-
LVC at the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex, or other ranges, help 
increase overall readiness and combat capability of both INDOPACOM and 
allied forces?
    Admiral Davidson. LVC capability is critical to large scale, 
distributed training and enables our warfighters to train in a threat-
representative environment. LVC simulates the highly contested threat 
environment of a near-peer conflict or operation. LVC is a must for 
enabling real threat emulation and live force-on-force training and 
provides the efficient means to increase and improve threat-
representative, high-end training.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                        china's nuclear capacity
    83. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Davidson, in testimony you said that 
``China has quadrupled their nuclear capability since the turn of their 
century, and they will at least doubled it during the course of this 
decade.'' Assuming no nuclear modernization and no additional 
production, when would you approximate a credible Chinese nuclear 
overmatch?
    Admiral Davidson. At its current pace of development, China's total 
nuclear arsenal will remain below United States levels over the next 
decade. However, China's improvements to effectiveness, reliability, 
survivability, and technical performance-including hypersonic 
capabilities--of nuclear forces, coupled with Beijing's lack of 
transparency, underscore the threat China's capabilities pose to the 
United States and our allies and partners.
    When considering the issue of overmatch, it is important to assess 
more than just the number of warheads. China continues to make rapid 
progress in training, command and control, operations, doctrine, and 
strategic intent while also increasing the number of warheads and 
launchers.
                         independent assessment
    84. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Davidson, you mentioned that 
``Taiwan is the immediate ambition of the Chinese'' and that this would 
be a problem ``within the next 6 years''. What components of your 
Independent Assessment would prioritize addressing this ambition?
    Admiral Davidson. To address the Chinese ambitions, the most 
important action the United States can take is increase Joint Force 
lethality by introducing a 360-degree persistent and integrated air 
defense capability in Guam (Guam Defense System). This system must be 
able to integrate existing weapons control systems and must be robust 
enough to address emerging threats, including hypersonics. The defense 
of Guam remains USINDOPACOM' s number one unfunded priority.

    85. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Davidson, as aptly stated in your 
testimony, ``Partner Forces' assessment of U.S. reliability is not 
based on the military presence alone . . . It's going to take a whole 
of nation approach.'' How are we pursuing concentric lines of effort 
with other Federal Agencies in a ``whole-of-government approach''?
    Admiral Davidson. USINDOPACOM coordinates and leverages the unique 
expertise from 60 interagency and intra-DOD Liaison Officers embedded 
in the USINDOPACOM Headquarters. We routinely integrate interagency 
representatives into steady-state operations, joint military operations 
and strategic planning, the USINDOPACOM Joint Exercise Program, and 
contingency and crisis response. We also conduct outreach to the 
interagency teams embedded in each U.S. Embassy in the Indo-Pacific and 
in the National Capital Region for those agencies who do not have 
Liaison Officers in the Pacific.
                             law of the sea
    86. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Davidson, can you please frame what 
ratification of United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea 
(UNCLOS) would mean for you generally as the INDOPACOM Commander and 
what it would enable the joint force to do in that AOR?
    Admiral Davidson. Accession to UNCLOS will put the Joint Force in a 
better position to fly, sail, and operate wherever international law 
allows, including throughout the Indo-Pacific. China is asserting its 
interests off its coast and in the South China Sea in ways that 
threaten foundational standards for the world's oceans as reflected in 
UNCLOS. China's attempts to restrict the rights, freedoms, and lawful 
uses of the sea available to commercial and military naval and air 
traffic is inconsistent with customary international law as reflected 
in UNCLOS. Accession to UNCLOS would help our position legally across 
the globe and would do nothing to limit our military operations in the 
manner in which we're conducting them now.
                          logistics/ mobility
    87. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Davidson, with respect to rotational 
forces under your command; do you assess the current amount of intra-
theater mobility to be adequate?
    Admiral Davidson. No. USINDOPACOM requires new, smaller, and more 
distributed intermediate staging bases across the theater. Doing so 
allows for sea and air trans-loading to smaller intra-theater platforms 
that are more survivable and readily available.

    88. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Davidson, are we resourced to 
maximize bi-lateral and multi-lateral engagement opportunities in the 
AOR given our current connectors?
    Admiral Davidson. No. By law, approximately 75 percent of Security 
Cooperation funds go to USCENTCOM for Israel and Egypt, leaving the 
other five geographic combatant commands to compete for the remaining 
25 percent. To supplement, USINDOPACOM leverages Asia Pacific Regional 
Initiative (APRI) resources and the National Guard's State Partnership 
Program with 15 Indo-Pacific nations to further enable military-to-
military and military-to-civilian activities in the region.

 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        TUESDAY, MARCH 16, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

   UNITED STATES SOUTHERN COMMAND AND UNITED STATES NORTHERN COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:31 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Manchin, 
Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, 
Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and 
Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order. Good 
morning. Today the Committee will receive testimony from 
General VanHerck, Commander, United States Northern Command and 
North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, and from 
Admiral Craig Faller, Commander, U.S. Southern Command. General 
VanHerck is appearing for his first posture hearing in his 
current command, and Admiral Faller is returning to testify as 
Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) Commander, and this could be your 
last hearing before the Committee, Admiral. Thank you for your 
dedicated service to the Nation and the Navy. We appreciate it 
very much.
    I want to thank both of you, indeed, for your decades of 
service and also, obviously, thank your families for the 
sacrifices that they have made to support you. On behalf of the 
Committee, I also want you to thank the men and women under 
your commands for their selfless dedication and service to the 
Nation.
    The security environment we face today is fundamentally 
different than even a decade ago. Near-peer competitors China 
and Russia have significantly narrowed the technological 
advantages that the United States military previously enjoyed, 
and they threaten to contest our military operations across all 
domains, including land, sea, air, cyberspace, and space. The 
2018 National Defense Strategy shifted our defense priorities 
to focus foremost on strategic competition with China and 
Russia, but we need to better define what our objectives are 
for out-competing our adversaries in this geopolitical rivalry.
    General VanHerck, you are responsible for protecting the 
Homeland, and over the last year that mission has centered on 
the response to the COVID-19 pandemic. At the request of the 
Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Northern Command 
(NORTHCOM) has deployed more than 2,200 personnel at part of 25 
vaccination support teams at 17 sites in nine states, 
administering more than 50,000 doses daily. I understand that 
FEMA has discussed with you ramping up to 100 vaccination 
support teams, with the capacity to vaccinate over 400,000 
people per day. This is in addition to the more than 30,000 
National Guard members supporting civil authorities across 46 
states and 3 territories. General VanHerck, I hope you will 
share your views on the challenges in scaling up this effort 
and any lessons learned regarding what we need long-term for 
addressing future pandemic threats to our Nation's health 
security.
    NORTHCOM is also tasked with operating our Homeland 
ballistic missile defense, the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense 
system, to protect the United States against an 
intercontinental ballistic missile attack from rogue states. 
The threat from North Korea has only grown in recent years, and 
I would be interested in hearing your assessment of what 
additional steps can be taken to better integrate our domain 
awareness and modernize our missile defense systems, including 
plans for the Next Generation Interceptor, and the so-called 
``underlayer'' of missile defense protection for the Homeland.
    NORTHCOM is designated as the advocate for capabilities in 
the Arctic, and plays a leading role in bringing together the 
combatant commands that share responsibilities for this 
increasingly critical region. As Russia and China become more 
assertive in the Arctic, it is essential that we develop a 
unified response across combatant commands and across the 
interagency, as well as in coordination with our allies and 
partners. General, I would appreciate any updates you can 
provide on this critical region.
    The situation along our southern border has implications 
for both NORTHCOM and SOUTHCOM. Despite President Biden's 
termination of the declaration of a national emergency along 
the border, and ending of the diversion of funds for the border 
wall, roughly 3,600 military personnel remain deployed in the 
region in support of the Customs and Border Patrol. This raises 
questions about what the Defense Department's role should be in 
a whole-of-government response to the situation at the southern 
border. In addition, recent weeks have seen an increase in the 
number of unaccompanied children arriving at the southern 
border seeking to escape instability and violence in their home 
countries. While these children need to be cared for in a human 
and safe manner on a case-by-case basis, I also believe we need 
to address the migration problem at its source, including the 
conditions causing adults and children to seek asylum at our 
border. Admiral Faller, I would be interested in your thoughts 
on how the Department can use security cooperation 
strategically to build partner capabilities and institutional 
capacities to counter the drivers of instability in Central 
America.
    SOUTHCOM's traditional mission has focused on countering 
the scourge of narcotics and the threat from transnational 
criminal organizations. The growing influence of China and 
Russia, however, threatens to further destabilize the region, 
as these geopolitical rivals take advantage of corrupt 
governance in the region to advance their own strategic 
interests. China's malign financial influence, and Russian 
disinformation amplified on Russian-controlled Spanish language 
media outlets, threatens to undermine democratic governments. 
In Venezuela, the Maduro regime, propped up with external 
support from Russia, China, and others, has caused millions of 
Venezuelans to flee into neighboring countries, with Colombia 
bearing the brunt of this exodus. Admiral Faller, I am 
interested in your assessment of the threat from near-peer 
competitors in the SOUTHCOM area, and how we might work 
strategically with partners in the region to build resilience 
to China and Russia's malign activities.
    I want to thank you again for being here this morning and I 
look forward to your testimony. I also just want to note, for 
my colleagues, that there will be an informal classified 
briefing by Admiral Faller in SVC-217 immediately following 
this session, until 12:30, when we must cease, and the subject 
will be the increasing Chinese influence in the SOUTHCOM area.
    With that, let me recognize Senator Inhofe.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 
calling this important hearing. I want to also thank our two 
witnesses, NORTHCOM and SOUTHCOM. As you know, my top priority 
remains ensuring the effectiveness and implementation of the 
National Defense Strategy--we have all agreed this is our 
roadmap. This is what we are supposed to be doing. It is as 
true today as it was 2 years ago--which identifies competition 
with China and Russia as the central challenge to the United 
States' prosperity and security.
    However, the growing influence of China and Russia is not 
limited to Europe and the Indo-Pacific. Most people, when they 
think about that they talk about the South China Seas and other 
places where there are problems. Both countries have shown 
their way that they view the Western Hemisphere as critical 
terrain for fulfilling their global ambitions in challenging 
the United States. Admiral Feller, China and Russia are 
expanding their access and influence in your area of 
responsibility (AOR), through increasing arms deals, military 
deployments, and economic and diplomatic coercion.
    At the same time, much of the drugs poisoning American 
cities are coming from Latin America through the vast illicit 
networks operated by multi-billion-dollar criminal 
organizations. General VanHerck, you have operational 
responsibility for the defense of the United States Homeland. 
We are facing a lot of challenges from the growing Chinese and 
Russian missile capabilities, including advanced cruise 
missiles and hypersonic missiles. I hope you will discuss any 
emerging gaps you foresee in our Homeland defense and offer 
your recommendations for addressing these challenges. 
Specifically, I am interested in your views on whether waiting 
another decade for a new ground-based interceptor makes any 
sense or if we need to act sooner, given the growing threat 
from our adversaries.
    Meanwhile, we are seeing a new crisis brewing on the 
southwest border. According to The New York Times, 
approximately 78,000 immigrants tried to cross the border in 
January. That is double the number that were there from the 
year before. So we know that is happening. We know that his 
increasing. We do not have the numbers yet of the--I tried to 
get them this morning--of February. We do not have those 
numbers yet, but we will get them, and we see that this thing 
is getting worse.
    I have always said border security is a national security, 
and my visit to the border in August of 2019 confirmed this 
belief. These new statistics are alarming, so I hope you will 
address whether NORTHCOM's border support mission is sufficient 
and what we can do to better ensure that our laws are enforced.
    You know, we talk around this thing, and nobody wants to 
talk about it. No one wants to admit it. We have got a new 
President now and the new President has a different mission. 
You know, he wants everyone to love him, and I understand that. 
I have a picture here that I want to be made part of the 
record. This is all these people coming across illegally, 
wearing their Biden t-shirts. Now this is going on, you guys. 
Do not act like it is not. Anyway, we need to face this 
problem.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe, and now 
let me recognize Admiral Faller for his testimony.

 STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL CRAIG S. FALLER, USN, COMMANDER, UNITED 
                    STATES SOUTHERN COMMAND

    Admiral Faller. Good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, distinguished Members of the Committee. I thank you for 
the opportunity to testify before you today. I am honored to be 
here with my friend and shipmate, General Glen VanHerck from 
the United States Northern Command.
    Now more than ever, I feel a sense of urgency about the 
global threats we face here in our neighborhood, this region, 
our home. This neighborhood is our home. It is a shared 
neighborhood. It is a hemisphere which is of vital national 
interest to the United States.
    Two of the most significant threats we face are China and 
transnational criminal organizations. The Chinese Communist 
Party, with its insidious and corrupt influence, seeks regional 
and global economic dominance, in its own version of a rules-
based international order. Our strategic competition with China 
is global, not just in the Taiwan Strait or the South China 
Sea. China is quickly growing its influence here, in our 
hemisphere, working on over 40 port deals, dishing out 
significant loans for political and economic influence, pushing 
for information technology (IT) structure, and engaging in 
predatory practices like illegal, unregulated, and unreported 
fishing. We have seen many of these tactics in Asia and Africa, 
and we cannot let them prevail here in our neighborhood.
    Transnational criminal organizations pose a direct threat 
to our national security. They traffic in arms, humans, drugs, 
and they claim tens of thousands of lives in America every 
year. These murderous tactics have resulted in 43 of the 50 
most violent cities in the world being here in this hemisphere, 
and they drive illegal migration and they allow bad actors like 
China to gain influence.
    COVID-19 has hit this hemisphere hard. According to the 
International Monetary Fund (IMF), the economies of Latin 
America and the Caribbean shrunk 7.4 percent in 2020. The 
impacts of the pandemic, like a perfect storm, will alter the 
hemisphere for years to come.
    In the midst of all this, two back-to-back hurricanes 
devastated Central America, causing even greater instability. 
The pandemic and these unprecedented storms struck on top of 
this already vicious circle of threats, creating strong push 
factors for people in the region seeking a better life, seeking 
security, to come with their families to the United States. 
Despite an economy in a tailspin, more than five million 
refugees have fled Venezuela and the illegitimate Maduro 
regime. Maduro continues to cling to power with the support of 
Cuba, Russia, Iran, and China.
    We cannot face such daunting challenges alone. The only way 
to counter these influences, these threats, is to strengthen 
partnerships. That is how we will in the strategic competition.
    I have been impressed with nations who have worked 
shoulder-to-shoulder with us, despite the pandemic, to counter 
threats. Nations like Colombia, whose professional forces have 
stepped up in the midst of the pandemic to conduct counter-
transnational criminal organizations with dozens of other 
nations, and nations like Brazil, who sent their airborne 
company to our high-end training with the United States Army at 
Fort Polk, Louisiana.
    Good neighbors are here when you need help, and that is 
what the United States did in SOUTHCOM when COVID hit. We 
stepped up with our humanitarian assistance program, 
contributing over 450 projects in 28 countries. Overall, the 
United States is the leader in humanitarian assistance in COVID 
in Latin America and the Caribbean.
    SOUTHCOM works every day to build readiness with our 
trusted military and security partners. We do this through 
security cooperation. This includes institution capacity-
building, legal training, education, international military 
education and training (IMET), and exercises. We focus on 
developing professional military forces that know how to fight 
and use the lawful use of military force. We focus on human 
rights training, Women, Peace, and Security programs, and non-
commissioned officer (NCO) development. Modest investments in 
these programs and intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance, and our presence, our posture, go a long way in 
this hemisphere and will help our partners counter these global 
threats.
    Finally, our success would not be possible without the men 
and women of our SOUTHCOM team. We are taking proactive steps 
to protect them from unacceptable behaviors, like sexual 
assault and harassment, racism and extremism. We take these 
threats seriously. They are a cancer to our readiness, and it 
is the right thing to do.
    Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member Inhofe, on behalf of the 
SOUTHCOM team thank you for the trust you place in us, and I 
look forward to our discussion and questions today.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Faller follows:]

             Prepared Statement by Admiral Craig S. Faller
    Over 2 years ago, you entrusted me with the great responsibility of 
leading the men and women of the United States Southern Command 
(USSOUTHCOM) in working with our partners to secure our hemisphere. At 
the time, our region faced a seemingly insurmountable crisis of illicit 
drugs killing tens of thousands of Americans every year, institutional 
instability and corruption in the region, and external state actors 
(ESA), like the People's Republic of China (PRC), looking to exploit 
the conditions posed by these threats. I committed to tackling these 
challenges by building trust with the Nations of this region and within 
our own interagency--by being the best partner we can be and by 
strengthening and complementing U.S interagency and partner nation 
capabilities to address these threats together. With your support, we 
have made notable strides, but much work remains to be done. I welcome 
this opportunity to discuss the significant national security 
challenges and opportunities we still face in Latin America and the 
Caribbean. This region is our neighborhood, directly tied to us in 
every domain. A threat to our neighbors is a threat to the United 
States; and an opportunity for our neighbors is an opportunity for us 
to make our neighborhood stronger together.
    In fact, after 2 years in this position, I feel an incredible sense 
of urgency. This Hemisphere in which we live is under assault. The very 
democratic principles and values that bind us together are being 
actively undermined by violent transnational criminal organizations 
(TCOs) and the PRC and Russia. We are losing our positional advantage 
in this Hemisphere and immediate action is needed to reverse this 
trend. The intervention goes well beyond economic influence, the PRC's 
strategic outlook with over 40 ports in progress, significant loans 
that are used as political leverage and predatory practices 
demonstrated in illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing are 
weakening democratic institutions and leveraging the future of this 
Hemisphere. We have seen many of these same tactics in Asia and Africa 
over the last few decades and we are well aware of the results. We must 
act now to avoid those same results in our own hemisphere.
                         strategic environment
    The National Defense Strategy (NDS) identifies defending the 
Homeland as a critical defense objective and recognizes that our 
Homeland cannot be safe without a stable and secure Western Hemisphere. 
USSOUTHCOM's primary mission is to keep our neighborhood safe from 
those seeking to do us harm so that our home remains secure. The 
threats in the Western Hemisphere are persistent, they're real, and 
they represent a formidable risk to our national security. Perhaps most 
urgently, this region has been one of the hardest hit by COVID-19; the 
health, economic, and social impacts of which will alter the hemisphere 
for years to come. In the midst of this pandemic, two back-to-back 
major hurricanes devastated Central America creating even greater 
economic strain. The pandemic and these unprecedented storms struck on 
top of an already challenging vicious circle of threats that jeopardize 
a secure, stable, and democratic Western Hemisphere. These threats 
include ESAs like the PRC, Russia, and Iran that actively seek to take 
advantage of the nascent, fragile democracies in this region and look 
to exploit the region's resources and proximity to the United States; 
TCOs that run all forms of illicit activities to turn a profit, at the 
expense of the rule of law, and more importantly, of the lives of all 
who are impacted along the way; and malign regional state actors--those 
countries within our own neighborhood, like Cuba, Venezuela, and 
Nicaragua, that perpetuate corruption and challenge freedom and 
democracy by opening the door to ESAs and TCOs at the expense of their 
own people. TCOs are a direct threat to the United States Homeland. We 
cannot face such daunting challenges on our own. The only way to 
counter these threats is to strengthen our partners in the region--we 
must build OUR team to win this strategic competition. If our neighbors 
are stronger, we're all stronger.
                       threats and opportunities
    COVID-19 and Fragility in the Hemisphere. There is an accelerating 
spiral of instability gripping the region as the pandemic has increased 
the region's fragility. Latin America and the Caribbean have suffered 
among the highest COVID-19 death rates in the world, and during my 
trips to the region, I witnessed the profound physical and emotional 
strain nations are experiencing. With only about 8 percent of the 
world's population, Latin America and the Caribbean are 
disproportionately impacted with nearly one fifth of global cases. 
Though nothing compares to the toll on human life, there will also be a 
significant socioeconomic impact on our neighbors for years to come. 
According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), per capita income 
in Latin America will not recover from the pandemic until 2025--later 
than any other region in the world. Coming on the heels of widespread 
public protests against governments throughout the region at the end of 
2019, these COVID-19 losses coupled with longstanding socioeconomic 
grievances and corruption have created the conditions for even greater 
instability and unrest among our partner nations. These conditions 
create a more fragile region that serves as fertile ground for our 
competitors to advance their own interests, both malign and legitimate, 
making this challenge even more complex. Even some of our strongest 
partners are at risk of instability due to this confluence of factors.
    Our partners' military and security force budgets are facing 
extreme pressure as governments use their limited resources to address 
the pandemic. Security forces are increasingly focused on the very 
near-term need for tactical items such as fuel, food, personal 
protective equipment (PPE), and vaccines at the expense of security 
operations. They are concerned that TCOs will gain even more freedom of 
action in their countries as conditions for corruption and illicit 
activity grow.
    In order to gain more access, presence, and influence in the 
region, the PRC and Russia are taking advantage of the pandemic, 
deploying medical diplomacy and disinformation campaigns--often 
overpromising and under delivering. The PRC is offering $1 billion in 
loans to the region for their COVID-19 vaccine and improvements to 
medical infrastructure, securing agreements with Argentina, Brazil, 
Peru, and Venezuela. This will further indebt the region to the PRC, 
which already holds $165 billion in loans. The PRC aims to enhance 
medical exchange programs, exploiting the pandemic to advance its One 
Belt One Road (OBOR) initiative in trade, technology, and 
infrastructure. Beijing is also using COVID-19 as a pretext to donate 
Huawei technology that integrates with its 5G networks and Safe City 
programs--touting its social monitoring model as an effective and 
inexpensive contact tracing solution.
    Russia, too, is seizing the pandemic as an opportunity to increase 
its influence in countries where it previously had limited access. 
COVID-19 has also provided Russia with another avenue by which to 
expand its campaign to outcompete the United States in the information 
domain, pushing narratives about United States mismanagement of COVID-
19 and claiming United States Government sanctions are choking the 
Venezuelan people at their most vulnerable time.
    What we're doing about it: Good friends are consistent and 
committed. While maintaining force health protection as a priority, 
USSOUTHCOM immediately responded to the needs of our partners in this 
crisis by providing humanitarian assistance to alleviate the burden on 
health systems throughout the region. Since April 2020, USSOUTHCOM has 
executed over 485 of these projects in 28 countries, with a total 
investment of more than $56 million, in addition to the humanitarian 
assistance delivered by State and USAID. Our efforts range from 
deploying field hospitals to providing critical PPE. \1\ The U.S. 
Government has delivered $226 million worth of aid, with an additional 
$35 million on its way, which is more than double what the PRC has 
donated. As part of overall U.S. Government humanitarian efforts, DOD's 
humanitarian assistance program is making an important difference in 
these nations and helping to build trust and bring stability to the 
region. In every conversation with my counterparts in the region, they 
lead with ``your assistance has been critical as we face COVID-19.'' If 
the U.S. wants to be the partner of choice--that means being first to 
respond in a crisis. Missions like the 2019 deployment of the USNS 
Comfort provided world-class medical care to over 68,000 people in 12 
countries and enhanced the medical readiness of our U.S. and partner 
medical personnel. We work closely with State and USAID to find 
innovative ways to deliver this kind of relevant and timely support to 
our partners and demonstrate our commitment to the region.
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        external state actors (esas) and malign regional actors.
    People's Republic of China. The NDS's central idea of ``expanding 
the competitive space'' must be applied globally, not only in the 
Pacific, but also in our own neighborhood. The NDS requires us to 
``sustain our advantages in the Western Hemisphere'' and maintain a 
favorable balance of power in this region, while bolstering partners 
against coercion.
    The PRC continues to increase its self-serving activities to gain 
global influence and leverage across all domains in the USSOUTHCOM AOR: 
cyber, space, extractive and energy industries, transportation hubs, 
roads, infrastructure, telecommunications, legal and illegal fishing, 
agriculture, and military training--Spanish and Portuguese-language 
military education modeled after United States professional military 
education. The PRC is also ``gifting'' security supplies and equipment 
as a way to gain access and win favor with regional security forces. As 
already discussed, COVID-19 has brought on a new era of medical 
diplomacy that the PRC seeks to leverage to its advantage. All of these 
overtures, to include the OBOR initiative, are part of a concerted 
effort by Beijing to indebt fragile countries in the region, impinge on 
our partners' and allies' sovereignty, and use its influence to extract 
concessions when needed. The PRC also thrives on and enables the 
corruption and lack of transparency in business and political deals 
exhibited in some of the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean. 
Beijing pairs these engagements with aggressive information operations 
that spread disinformation--emblematic of how the PRC's actions are 
guided by different values than those of the United States and our 
regional partners.
    The PRC is rapidly advancing toward their goal of economic 
dominance in the region within the next ten years. In 2019, the PRC 
surpassed the United States as the leading trade partner with Brazil, 
Chile, Peru, and Uruguay and is now the region's second-largest trading 
partner behind the United States. From 2002 to 2019, PRC trade with 
Latin America soared from $17 billion to over $315 billion, with plans 
to reach $500 billion in trade by 2025.
    The PRC is also seeking to establish global logistics and basing 
infrastructure in our hemisphere in order to project and sustain 
military power at greater distances. Outside our region, Beijing 
consistently abuses commercial arrangements at host country ports to 
support military functions and obfuscate the true purpose of its 
overseas installations.
    Chinese Illegal, Unreported, and Unregulated (IUU) fishing just 
outside or within the outer limits of South American Economic Exclusion 
Zones (EEZ) is another predatory practice that poses a threat to the 
livelihood of coastal nations. The Chinese Government admittedly 
subsidizes this activity and is reluctant to curtail it because of its 
importance to PRC's food security and economy, with IUU fishing costing 
the region about $2.7 billion in lost revenue annually. In August, 
activity of a fleet of approximately 350 Chinese operated vessels posed 
a threat to the Galapagos Marine Reserve and endangered species 
resulting in an international outcry, exposing this malign activity.
    Russia. Russia is increasingly asserting itself in Latin America 
and the Caribbean, pursuing a strategy intended to grow Moscow's 
influence and undermine United States leadership in the region over the 
long term. Russia is actively engaging in this region to counter what 
it views as the United States meddling in its near-abroad. Expanding 
air and sea access to project military power, it has agreements with 
Venezuela and Nicaragua that allow Russian warships to visit on short 
notice. Moscow has executed three strategic bomber deployments to the 
region since 2008 and made more than 40 port calls since 2010. Russia 
doubled its naval deployments in this region, going from five (2008-
2014), to 11 (2015-2020). Russia is trying to make inroads in the 
hemisphere by providing security training and has conducted $2.3 
billion in weapons and military equipment sales in the last 10 years. 
At the same time, Moscow is working to discredit the United States by 
flooding the region's information space with disinformation, to include 
hundreds of articles distorting United States security actions. In 
2020, Russian Spanish-language media outlets more than doubled their 
social media followers from 7 million to over 18 million.
    Iran. Iran uses both formal and informal instruments to expand its 
influence in Latin America and the Caribbean and prepare for any 
potential contingencies. Tehran seeks to expand its economic ties to 
the region, and leverages its security expertise and well-established 
diaspora in the region to expand trade and its overall influence. The 
Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force, Tehran's primary external 
operations unit for exporting the Islamic Revolution, maintains 
operatives in foreign embassies, charities, and religious and cultural 
institutions to enhance ties globally. In the past year, Iran has 
expanded economic and security cooperation with Venezuela on fuel 
transfers, food staples, and military assistance, possibly expanding 
the Qods Force's presence in the region. Tehran also relies on a system 
of Iranian state-sponsored and non-state facilitated media outlets to 
shape the information domain to generate empathy for Iran and Shia 
Islam and diminish Western influence in the hemisphere. Tehran 
maintains a Spanish-language channel that reaches 17 countries in the 
region.
    Venezuela. The Venezuelan people continue to suffer under the 
illegitimate Maduro regime. They lack basic services, clean water, 
food, and health care. The impacts of COVID-19, gas shortages, 
increasing levels of unemployment and inflation (at over 3000 percent), 
and human rights violations all compound one of the most severe 
humanitarian crises in the history of this hemisphere. The illegitimate 
regime is even struggling to provide basic services within Caracas, to 
which it previously diverted most of its resources to avoid threats to 
its control. Venezuelan migration continues to destabilize the region, 
straining the health systems and economies of Venezuela's neighboring 
countries. As of December 2020, approximately 5.5 million refugees and 
migrants from Venezuela were displaced globally, with some 4.6 million 
remaining in Latin America and the Caribbean. Venezuela is also the 
primary foothold and access point in the region for ESAs, enables TCO 
activities, and gives refuge to regional terrorist groups.
    Cuba. Cuba remains a regional corrosive influence that enables and 
inspires autocratic regimes in the hemisphere and is the primary 
supporter of the illegitimate Maduro regime in Venezuela. Cuba is the 
entry point for ESA influence in the region and its reach extends 
beyond this hemisphere. Like the PRC, Cuba uses medical diplomacy to 
build international goodwill and gain back door access to undermine 
fragile democracies. Havana has fully exploited the COVID-19 pandemic 
to reinvigorate its medical outreach, a key revenue generator for the 
island at a time when it is desperate for income.
    Nicaragua. Nicaragua's current political crisis that began in 2018 
continues, with President Ortega's policies still leading to calls for 
his resignation. We are already seeing a concerning suppression of the 
opposition, in advance of this year's election. Managua maintains close 
ties with Moscow, whose security assistance to Nicaragua focuses on 
Professional Military Education, donations, and the provision of 
humanitarian assistance in a strategy to subjugate the Nicaraguan 
Government and counter United States regional goals. Over the past 
decade Russia built a joint counternarcotic training center in 
Nicaragua, trained at least 500 Latin American and Caribbean officers, 
and conducted multiple maritime and air deployments to the country.
    What we're doing about it. We work to effectively posture U.S. 
Forces to ensure we can achieve NDS objectives. USSOUTHCOM remains 
committed to maintaining our advantage and to our allies and partners 
to protect and advance mutual security interests. We, along with State 
do this through a wide range of security cooperation and assistance 
activities aimed at building partner capacity such as DOD's Joint 
Exercise and Humanitarian Assistances Programs and State's Foreign 
Military Financing (FMF) and International Military Education Training 
(IMET) programs, as well as information and intelligence sharing. To 
put it simply, we outcompete bad guys by being the good guys. While our 
adversaries look for opportunities to extract, we look for ways to 
build up. We work with partners to understand where their capability 
gaps are and how we can help fill those in--stronger partners are 
better equipped to secure our hemisphere, our neighborhood. Our 
training is responsive to the needs of our partners, it's the highest 
possible quality, and includes emphasis on professionalism to include 
values like respect for human rights and the rule of law as an inherent 
element of professional military and security forces. It emphasizes the 
importance of a strong non-commissioned officer corps and empowering 
women as part of the entire force. At USSOUTHCOM, we are committed to 
integrating gender perspectives into all of our activities, and we 
encourage our partners to create structural changes in their militaries 
to allow for the same through our Women, Peace and Security in the 
Western Hemisphere Initiative. For a nation's defense and security 
forces to be sustainable, legitimate, and respected, the meaningful 
inclusion of women is imperative. Our Human Rights Office, the only 
such program at any Combatant Command, actively promotes building 
stronger military human rights programs with partner nation militaries.
    Our exercise program is designed to counter threats, build 
readiness, and enhance our partners' capabilities, interoperability, 
and domain awareness. This is a vital component of our strategy, 
allowing us to conduct multi-domain exercises with our partners and 
build interoperability and readiness that improve our collective 
ability to secure the region.
    Being on the field, with a presence at Cooperative Security 
Locations in El Salvador, Colombia, and Curacao, and a Forward 
Operating Site in Honduras, home of Joint Task Force Bravo (JTF-Bravo), 
enables us to answer the call and build trust, when our neighbors ask 
for help in a crisis, as they did following the back-to-back major 
hurricanes that devastated Central America late last year. In the 
aftermath of Hurricanes Eta and Iota, our forces at JTF-Bravo, with 
support from our components and allies, responded immediately, 
conducting search and rescue operations and delivering lifesaving aid 
to areas isolated by the storms, delivering over 1.2 million pounds of 
life-saving humanitarian aid and rescuing 852 people. There is no 
better way to demonstrate U.S. commitment to the region than to respond 
to our neighbors' needs in times of crisis.
    Through our security cooperation program, we focus on building our 
partners' capacity to conduct ground and maritime interdiction, defend 
their cyber networks, secure their borders and sovereignty, and 
maintain domain awareness. The Near Coastal Patrol Vessel (NCPV) 
program is a USSOUTHCOM initiative to address selected Caribbean and 
Central American partners' requirements for a maritime patrol vessel 
with the capacity to conduct sustained Maritime Interdiction 
Operations. Fielding these vessels in key partner nations will increase 
interoperability and regional ability to counter regional threats, the 
nefarious activities of which pose an existential threat to many of our 
partners.
    Another important capability to outcompete our adversaries in the 
region is intelligence-driven--we must gather information across all 
domains and share it as widely as possible with our partners. We shine 
a light on the PRC's predatory and corrupt actions so our partners can 
recognize the PRC's malign activities and make well-informed decisions 
on engaging Beijing. We continue to convey to our partners and allies 
that Beijing and Moscow seek to undermine their national sovereignty 
and fosters instability that allows TCOs a foothold within their 
borders. We also highlight that partnering with the PRC requires 
turning a blind eye to malign behavior that ranges from corruption and 
human rights abuses to environmental degradation and natural resource 
depletion.
   transnational criminal organizations (tcos) and violent extremist 
                         organizations (veos).
    TCOs. TCOs are violent and they pose a national security threat to 
the United States Homeland. They share the goal of PRC, Russia, and 
other malign actors to advance their self-interests at the expense of 
our partners' sovereignty. TCOs engage in a wide array of illegal 
activities including drug and weapons trafficking, human smuggling and 
trafficking, and money laundering. TCOs make up an approximately $90 
billion a year life-threatening enterprise through cocaine profits 
alone and are responsible for thousands of deaths in the United States 
each year, forging a trail of violence, corruption, and instability 
through our region in route to our Homeland. In many cases, TCOs are 
better funded than partner nation security forces. In 2020, drug 
traffickers likely attempted to move an estimated 2,300 metric tons of 
cocaine, departing from the source zone toward the United States, 
Europe, and other markets. Their efforts persist despite combined 
security operations and COVID quarantine measures (such as border and 
port closures), indicating these traffickers are bent on undermining 
security and prosperity for us, our allies, and partner nations all for 
the sake of profit. The COVID-19 environment has caused some 
traffickers to stockpile cocaine, and complicated coca eradication 
operations in the Andean Ridge. Traffickers have adapted to the COVID 
environment, cocaine flow has increased and rebounded to pre-pandemic 
levels. We must remain ready with increased U.S. and partner nation 
presence and pressure to stem this flood.
    Narcotrafficking is a scourge throughout the hemisphere and TCOs 
aren't the only ones who benefit--the Maduro regime is heavily involved 
in trafficking narcotics, overtly supporting narcoterrorism while the 
innocent citizens of Venezuela continue to suffer under extreme 
oppression and grinding poverty. From 2015 to 2019 the known drug flow 
out of Venezuela increased by 145 percent. Over the last few years, the 
illegitimate Maduro regime has collaborated with National Liberation 
Army (ELN) and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia Dissidents 
(FARC-D) to move hundreds of metric tons of cocaine from Colombia 
through Venezuela via non-commercial aircraft and commercial cargo 
ships. This relationship also extends to illicit gold mining, a 
critical commodity that Maduro uses to sustain his illegitimate regime 
and military loyalty at the expense of the Venezuelan people.
    Regional Terrorist Organizations. The Revolutionary Armed Forces of 
Colombia Dissidents (FARC-D) and National Liberation Army (ELN) are the 
two main organized armed terrorist groups and drug trafficking 
organizations in the region whose actions pose a direct threat to our 
Homeland and partners. The FARC-D is composed of remnants of the FARC, 
who traffic drugs and engage in extortion and illegal mining to 
generate revenue. The FARC-D targets Venezuelan nationals for 
recruitment, using money, food, and safe passage to encourage or coerce 
desperate Venezuelan migrants to support their cause. The ELN also 
remains committed to fighting the Colombian Government and does so 
violently through the use of improvised explosive devices and vehicle-
borne explosives. This group fundraises primarily through the drug 
trade and illicit mining, as well as by imposing ``war taxes'' on drug 
labs and other businesses in its control. The ELN and FARC-D benefit 
from unchallenged freedom of movement and protection in Venezuela, with 
much of their leadership operating with impunity from within Venezuelan 
borders. Venezuela has become a paradise of impunity for 
narcotraffickers, while the Venezuelan people are forced to endure a 
nightmare of insecurity.
    Al Qaeda and ISIS maintain some sympathizers in the region. After 
ISIS's intense propaganda campaign from 2014 to 2017, as many as 200 
Trinidadians left the Caribbean islands to join the fight in Iraq and 
Syria. Several family members who traveled with the fighters are still 
in the Middle East and seek to return to the region, which will 
challenge the region's security services at a time when they are 
already overstretched due to the pandemic. Hizballah leverages the 
region's Lebanese diaspora throughout Latin America and the Caribbean 
for fundraising, recruiting, and logistical support. Operationally, 
Hizballah's Islamic Jihad Organization (IJO), its external operations 
arm, is responsible for at least three high-profile attacks in the 
region and three other planned operations that were disrupted.
    Special Interest Aliens (SIAs). In 2020, United States and partner 
law enforcement, with support from the intelligence community, arrested 
66 Latin American human smuggling facilitators involved in moving non-
United States citizens who potentially pose a national security risk to 
the United States or its interests. These facilitators move SIAs from 
countries like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen--
areas with pronounced VEO activity--through Latin America and toward 
the United States for fees ranging from $10,000 to $50,000 per person. 
This business is dangerous, but lucrative, generating between $150 to 
$350 million a year for the facilitators.
    What we're doing about it. Our regional partnerships are vital to 
security and prosperity in this hemisphere and to our collective 
ability to confront global challenges including ESAs, TCOs, and VEOs. 
The men and women of USSOUTHCOM work hard every day alongside our 
strong interagency and international partners to disrupt and degrade 
these adversaries, while maintaining U.S. presence, access, and 
influence in our hemisphere. The Joint Interagency Task Force-South 
(JIATF-S) in Key West, conducts our statutorily-directed mission to 
detect and monitor illicit narcotics, delivering a high return on 
modest investments. Last year, this international and interagency 
``team of teams'' helped keep 264 metric tons of cocaine off U.S. 
streets. JIATF-S-facilitated interdictions historically account for 
almost four times the cocaine seized by all domestic and border 
enforcement efforts combined. In an operating area that is 11 times 
larger than the United States, JIATF-S provides the best bang for the 
taxpayer buck when it comes to keeping drugs from arriving on our 
shores.
    Last year, recognizing the seriousness of the TCO threat to the 
United States Homeland, the Secretary of Defense authorized an all 
domain enhanced counternarcotic operation to reduce the flow of illicit 
drugs, degrade TCOs, and increase interoperability and readiness. In 
the past year, the U.S. Navy stepped up, providing more ship presence 
and maritime patrol aircraft. These assets have achieved significant 
return on investment as well as provided readiness building 
opportunities for our Fourth Fleet and Navy crews. This initiative 
included an increase in surface and air platforms, other intelligence 
assets, and a Security Forces Assistance Brigade to work with our 
partners. We are putting these assets to good use, integrating with 
interagency and international partners across all domains to ensure 
long-term success. Through the employment of these additional assets we 
increased the targeting of known air and maritime illicit trafficking 
events by 65 percent. Our whole of Government and partner nation 
approach has disrupted over 240 metric tons of cocaine and almost 
100,000 pounds of marijuana. We have detained over 700 suspected drug 
smugglers, denied almost $6 billion of profits to TCOs, and most 
importantly, saved the lives of more than 2000 Americans. A Security 
Forces Assistance Brigade is currently training Colombian and Honduran 
forces to more effectively fuse their intelligence to inform manual 
eradication and lab destruction efforts----helping to stop the drug 
threat closer to the source, before it begins its journey to the United 
States. We plan on expanding this effort into other nations in Central 
America with a focus on capabilities to counter TCOs.
    With this increase of U.S. all domain presence and pressure--a sign 
of U.S. leadership and commitment to the region--our partner nations, 
who could have easily turned inward to focus on the COVID-19 crisis, 
instead stepped up their participation to counter TCOs, demonstrating 
their commitment to countering this threat. Key partners like Colombia, 
Costa Rica, Panama, Guatemala, El Salvador, and others have been 
involved in almost 60 percent of drug disruptions during this 
operation. Years of sustained security cooperation with our partners 
throughout our hemisphere is really paying dividends--we have helped 
build the capability of these nations to operate with us to disrupt 
drug shipments before those loads enter the Homeland.
    We have very willing partners in this hemisphere, and they 
demonstrated their commitment throughout the year, despite the 
increased challenges of COVID. Colombia kicked off Operation Orion V in 
April 2020, just as COVID was beginning to impact their country, 
stating that if the United States is committed to the drug fight during 
COVID, they would stand with us. Operation Orion V was a multi-national 
(26 countries), all-domain operation that resulted in 50 metric tons of 
cocaine disrupted, 72 drug labs destroyed, and $1.5 billion in profits 
denied to TCOs. The U.S. provided maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) and 
analyst support to this operation. Colombia just concluded the follow-
on Operation Orion VI, in which this coalition disrupted another 76.5 
metric tons of cocaine and detained over 400 traffickers. This is just 
one example of the large return on investment gained by combining a 
willing and able partner with a committed United States presence in the 
Western Hemisphere.
    While the Secretary of Defense agreed to continue sourcing this 
mission with traditional military assets, this mission also benefits 
from non-traditional resources. Congressional support to the 
counternarcotic mission has been instrumental in the success of these 
operations. We are filling capability gaps through innovative solutions 
like the Multi Mission Support Vessel (MMSV). The MMSV has supported 
the disruption of almost 8 metric tons of cocaine and 15,000 pounds of 
marijuana, denied over $180 million in profits to TCOs, and detained 48 
drug traffickers, while also keeping three low profile vessels carrying 
tons of narcotics from reaching our shores. It also extends the reach 
of our partner nation interdiction vessels as they launch in support of 
these counterdrug operations. We are applying commercially-available 
technology like unmanned aircraft systems to increase the MMSV's 
ability to conduct detection and monitoring and provide information to 
partner nation interdiction assets.
    SOUTHCOM employs less than 1 percent of DOD Intelligence, 
Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) resources to counter ESAs and 
TCOs in this region. To meet the mission, we are pushing the envelope 
with innovative techniques, focusing on a 21st century, non-traditional 
approach to intelligence that integrates publicly available 
information, advanced analytics, artificial intelligence and machine 
learning, and open collaboration with allies and partners to disrupt 
threats. These emerging tools offer persistent, AOR-wide coverage 
without risk to personnel at a relatively low cost and puts us in a 
position to better compete against adversaries. Our Technical Network 
Analysis Cell (TNAC) and Asymmetric Target Acquisition Center (ATAC) 
are just two examples of our approach. For an investment of $1.2 
million the TNAC at JIATF-S denied TCOs of $817.1 million in revenue by 
providing actionable intelligence, in cooperation with our law 
enforcement partners, that is shared with partner nations and 
interagency partners leading to numerous disruptions. The ATAC, run by 
our Special Operations Command South (SOCSOUTH), is supporting law 
enforcement efforts to counter TCOs. The Congressional support we have 
received for ISR has been critical to sustaining the innovative 
capabilities that support our unique mission, making our non-
traditional approach to ISR possible. USSOUTHCOM ISR activities are 
optimized for return on investment with a mix of traditional platforms, 
purpose-built sensors, and increasingly non-traditional collection 
methods. USSOUTHCOM will continue to work with the Department to ensure 
we can meet our vital mission to disrupt transnational criminal 
organizations, as well as work in concert with regional partners to 
confront shared threats.
    While we are making strides, we are but one part of the solution. 
This problem set requires a whole-of-government and whole-of-society 
solution to address both the supply and demand sides of this threat. 
Drugs have killed 840,000 Americans since 1999, \2\ and continue to 
kill 70,000 Americans a year. Drugs cost our Nation billions each year 
in criminal justice, healthcare, and productivity losses--in addition 
to the suffering caused by shattered and lost lives. We must continue 
and further enhance the tremendous interagency and international 
cooperation we have fostered over recent years against this common 
enemy.
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    As the U.S. Coast Guard provides the bulk of our counterdrug 
forces, the acquisition and deployment of their Offshore Patrol Cutter 
will be critical to keeping drugs off our streets and countering TCOs. 
Each additional force package (maritime patrol aircraft, flight deck 
capable ship, embarked helicopter, small boat (US Coast Guard over-the-
horizon boat or U.S. Navy 11 meter RHIB), and law enforcement 
detachment) enables the disruption of 35 more metric tons of cocaine 
and the strong presence reinforces to our partners that we are all-in 
with them--building trust.
    On the counterterrorism (CT) front, our Special Operations 
Command--South (SOCSOUTH) maintains persistent presence in several 
countries in the region, working and training with partner militaries. 
Our focus is on improving partner nation CT response capabilities, 
interoperability, and information sharing. The DOD Rewards Program has 
again provided tremendous return on investment in the fight against 
terrorism. In 2020, USSOUTHCOM paid $979,000 in rewards to 54 
informants that resulted in the neutralization of a record 107 
individuals who were terrorists or force protection threats and seizure 
of 26 weapons/explosive caches and $952,000 in cash. Although this is a 
counterterror and force protection program, it also yielded significant 
counternarcotic effects including the seizure of 14 metric tons of 
cocaine and the destruction of 12 drug labs. We also continue to focus 
efforts on assessing the financial underpinnings of national security 
threats in the region and have deepened our counter-threat finance 
related collaboration with the U.S. Treasury Department and interagency 
partners. This includes providing direct analytic support to the 
development of sanctions against Central and South American-based 
transnational organized crime groups that launder money, traffic drugs, 
and corrupt government officials in the region. An area requiring more 
emphasis is TCO network mapping and holistic interagency and partner 
nation efforts to dismantle key TCO centers of gravity such as 
logistics and finances.
    USSOUTHCOM also takes a total force approach to these challenges, 
taking full advantage of the Reserve component, composed of Guard and 
Reserve Forces. With fewer apportioned forces and a smaller budget than 
most regional combatant commands, I have a great appreciation for the 
importance and critical support they provide to our interagency and 
international partners. The ability of the National Guard, to work 
directly with host nations and local institutions through the State 
Partnership Program is a force multiplier for engaging our partners. 
Over one third of those State partnerships are in our AOR, 
strategically complementing our security cooperation efforts.
    Joint Task Force Guantanamo Bay (JTF-GTMO). JTF-GTMO continues to 
conduct safe, legal, and humane detention operations. In an effort to 
do so in a more efficient manner, the JTF has taken steps to right-size 
its force and consolidate operations. To date, we have safely reduced 
military personnel by over 20 percent. This is part of an ongoing 
effort to continually assess all USSOUTHCOM operations to ensure we are 
maximizing use of resources.
                   what more can be done/what we need
    Quality of Life. People are our most important resource and our 
absolute priority. None of the initiatives described above would be 
possible without the tremendous work of our men and women. South 
Florida, including Miami and the Florida Keys, is a high cost-of-living 
area that poses many challenges to our personnel. The housing market is 
so competitive that personnel pay upwards of $10,000 of up-front fees 
in order to secure a rental unit. We are working with the supportive 
local community to find immediate relief options for our servicemembers 
and civilians on housing and other factors that contribute to the high 
cost of living. We are also appreciative of the Department of the 
Army's support to find a permanent, cost effective housing solution 
here in Miami. We have also established TEAM SOUTHCOM, a family 
readiness group, to support all of our families, especially as they 
transition to this high-cost area and a non-standard military 
installation.
    Congressional Support. We appreciate your support of our security 
cooperation program in the USSOUTHCOM AOR as a continued recognition of 
the importance of these programs in our hemisphere. We also appreciate 
the increased flexibility that Congress included in the Fiscal Year 
2021 Consolidated Appropriations Act by increasing the percentage of 
333 funds that may be used over 2 years. Greater funding flexibility 
increases our ability to plan and execute multi-year programs to build 
partner capacity. Congress also continued support to USSOUTHCOM's ISR 
program and the MMSV--two investments that will increase our domain 
awareness and ability to stop threats bound for our Homeland.
    Infrastructure. The Fiscal Year 2021 National Defense Authorization 
Act authorized planning and design funding for a new Command and 
Control Facility for JIATF-S, recognizing what the U.S. Army Corps of 
Engineers determined was a compelling need to replace its current 
1950's constructed facility. We appreciate this support and are working 
to complete the design for a resilient facility built to enable 
interagency and international collaboration for this critical mission. 
USSOUTHCOM is also working closely with the Defense Health Agency to 
replace the hospital at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay (NSGB), which is 
experiencing severe structural deterioration. This medical treatment 
facility (MTF) is the only strategic medical hub to support the full 
spectrum of mission personnel operating in the USSOUTHCOM AOR! It is 
also the only MTF for personnel at NSGB, as there are no civilian 
options available. It is also important to note that NSGB is a 
strategic asset as the only U.S. base in the USSOUTHCOM AOR.
    Supporting our Partners. The U.S. military has established programs 
that help our partners develop diverse and inclusive militaries that 
respect the rule of law and human rights. These are the characteristics 
of a professional force that has legitimacy in the eyes of its 
population. Consistent engagement with our partner militaries and 
security forces through programs like our human rights training and 
women, peace, and security programs, as well as through the range of 
security cooperation and assistance programs, is essential to our 
ability build their institutional capacity and resiliency to the range 
of threats we all face together.
                               conclusion
    The security threats in the Western Hemisphere, our shared 
neighborhood, demand a sense of urgency. TCOs threaten our United 
States Homeland. We also see the rise in the PRC's leverage and 
influence is not just a South China Sea problem, it is a global 
problem, and it requires a solution that includes our partners and 
allies. When our neighborhood is strong, so is our national security. 
We no longer have two oceans to keep our adversaries at bay--their 
malign activity is knocking on our door, creating instability in an 
already fragile region, enabling TCOs to take hold in an attempt to 
weaken democracies and perpetuate corruption. We must stand by our 
partners.
    We hold ourselves to a high standard. We have strong values as 
Americans. We ensure our partners respect human rights; we train them 
on the responsible use of military equipment; we help build the 
institutional capacity to maintain professional military and security 
forces; and we operate transparently and in accordance with civilian 
leadership, international norms, and the rule of law. U.S. security 
cooperation with our partners ultimately bolsters our own national 
security and has done so for over 70 years. Investing in our 
neighborhood is an investment in national security and we are at a 
critical juncture where focus and attention are essential to 
maintaining positional advantage.
    I look forward to discussing our efforts to capitalize on the 
opportunities for shared security that exist in strengthening our 
partnerships.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral. General VanHerck, 
please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL GLEN D. VANHERCK, USAF, COMMANDER, UNITED 
 STATES NORTHERN COMMAND AND NORTH AMERICAN AEROSPACE DEFENSE 
                            COMMAND

    General VanHerck. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
the distinguished Members of the Committee, it is a privilege 
to testify with you here today. I am honored to serve as the 
Commander of the United States Northern Command and North 
American Aerospace Defense Command, and I am grateful to appear 
alongside Admiral Faller, as SOUTHCOM is a crucial partner in 
Homeland defense.
    USNORTHCOM and NORAD are separate commands charged with the 
critical mission of defending the United States and North 
America, respectively. USNORTHCOM is the United States 
geographic combatant command responsible for the defense of the 
Homeland, defense and support of civil authorities, and theater 
security cooperation for Canada, the Bahamas, and Mexico. NORAD 
is the bi-national command that provides aerospace warning, 
airspace control, and maritime warning for the United States 
and Canada.
    USNORTHCOM and NORAD's servicemembers and civilians are 
executing the Secretary of Defense's top priority by standing 
watch to defend our Nation against all threats, whether posed 
by competitors, natural disasters, or a pandemic. Over the last 
year, NORAD fighters, tankers, and airborne early warning 
aircraft responded to multiple incursions into our Air Defense 
Identification Zones, multiple ships sortied under USNORTHCOM 
Operation Control to defend our maritime approaches, and 
USNORTHCOM synchronized the Department of Defense's support to 
lead Federal agencies as thousands of servicemembers deployed 
within the USNORTHCOM area of responsibility to aid states and 
local communities in the fight against coronavirus.
    Today, thousands of servicemembers are providing lifesaving 
vaccinations to our citizens. No matter the threat, we are 
always ready to defend the lives of our citizens and our 
Homelands.
    Right now, as we confront the scourge of this pandemic, the 
threats we face and the pace of change in the geostrategic 
environment continue to advance. We have entered an era of 
renewed global competition, and this time we are facing two 
peer competitors, both nuclear armed. We must adapt to the 
challenges posed by this reality.
    Since the first Gulf War, the United States military has 
focused on projecting power forward to confront rogue regimes, 
violent extremist organizations, and other potential 
adversaries who threated American interests. We trusted in our 
nuclear deterrent and an assured power project capability, as 
well as the blessings of geography, to prevent an attack on our 
soil.
    In parallel, our competitors expanded the definition of 
competition into economic and informational areas, and have 
aggressively advanced their own military capabilities to hold 
our Homelands at risk, both kinetically and non-kinetically. 
Those efforts were predominantly focused on long-range strike, 
improved delivery platforms, cyber capabilities intended to 
circumvent our defenses from all directions and in all domains, 
and exploiting a perceived gap between our foundational nuclear 
deterrent and our conventional Homeland defense deterrent 
capabilities.
    Concurrently, the rise of transnational criminal 
organizations and the subsequent strains on governance and the 
instability they create has created additional opportunities 
for our competitors that they are working to exploit today.
    We must outpace our competitors by accelerating our own 
efforts to transform our culture, investing in our people to 
grow both talent within the ranks and counter extremist and 
destructive behaviors anti-ethical to our values. We must 
invest early and often in relationships with allies and 
partners to develop a global team of like-minded nations, and 
we must factor Homeland defense into every strategy, plan, 
force management, force design, as well as all aspects of 
acquisitions and budget, so we deter in competition, de-
escalating crisis, and defeat in conflict. To do this both 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD are concentrating efforts on building our 
capability to deter, and, if needed, defend against 
increasingly advanced all-domain threats.
    Together with the Canadian Armed Forces we are in the early 
stages of NORAD modernization and building additional military 
capabilities in the Arctic. In coordination with the Missile 
Defense Agency, United States Strategic Command, and United 
States Space Command (SPACECOM) we are maintaining and 
improving our ballistic missile defense capability.
    In order to balance our readiness for crisis and conflict, 
while also staying in global competition, we are placing 
significant emphasis on left-of-launch framework. This 
framework will increase decision space, uncovering more 
deterrents and de-escalation options vice end-game defeat. We 
are advocating for investment in all-domain awareness, to 
generate a layered sensing grid and a layered defense approach 
that emphasizes the use of an open sensor data architecture and 
machine-enhanced processing in order to achieve information 
dominance and decision superiority. Through information 
dominance, we will grant decision-makers increased decision 
space and build flexible response options to deter, deny, and 
defeat every threat to the United States and Canada.
    I am grateful for the trust that you place in United States 
Northern Command and NORAD, and both commands take solemn pride 
in our responsibility to defend our Homelands. We will forever 
have the watch.
    Thank you for your support and time, and I look forward to 
answering your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General VanHerck follows:]

              Prepared Statement by General Glen Vanherck
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee: Thank you for the opportunity to testify today, and for 
allowing me the honor of representing the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, 
Marines, Guardians, Coast Guardsmen, and civilians of United States 
Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) and North American Aerospace Defense 
Command (NORAD). I am especially privileged to represent the members of 
the Canadian Armed Forces who are a vital and essential part of the 
NORAD team.
    USNORTHCOM is the U.S. geographic combatant command responsible for 
defense of the United States Homeland. USNORTHCOM is also tasked with 
providing defense support of civil authorities and engaging in theater 
security cooperation with regional allies and partners. NORAD is a 
distinct, bi-national command responsible for three missions in defense 
of the United States and Canada: aerospace warning, aerospace control, 
and maritime warning. Canadian Armed Forces personnel, to include my 
three-star NORAD Deputy Commander, are essential to our NORAD missions.
    Since I assumed command of USNORTHCOM and NORAD, each day has 
afforded me the opportunity to lead a workforce of dedicated, 
innovative, and resilient warfighters and public servants. That 
fundamental commitment to our vital missions is clearly evident as 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD have kept the watch and defended our Nations in 
what is certainly the most dynamic and complex strategic environment I 
have encountered in my 33 years in uniform.
    Our competitors continue to take increasingly aggressive steps to 
gain the upper hand in the military, information, economic, and 
diplomatic arenas. USNORTHCOM meets each of those challenges head-on--
and we have done so while supporting whole-of-government efforts to 
safeguard our citizens through the coronavirus pandemic and 
historically severe hurricane and wildfire seasons, and also 
simultaneously synchronizing the deployment of troops to support 
federal law enforcement personnel on the southwest border. The 
cascading events of the past year placed unprecedented strain on our 
people, our interagency partners, and our institutions, and I am proud 
that we overcame each of those challenges and emerged more resilient.
    That steadfast commitment is more important than ever as our 
competitors continue to target the Homelands through multiple means in 
all domains. Defending our Nations, our citizens, and our way of life 
requires constant vigilance, and USNORTHCOM and NORAD have demonstrated 
time and again that our commands remain determined, focused, and ready. 
But we must keep moving forward. Looking to the future, we will 
continue to pursue innovative new capabilities and strategies to 
detect, deny, deter, and, if necessary, defeat the mounting threats 
posed by peer competitors, rogue nations, transnational criminal 
organizations, and foreign and domestic violent extremists. No matter 
the challenge or circumstance, this Committee should rest assured 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD are always on guard.
                                threats
    The global geostrategic environment continues to evolve rapidly. 
While the United States has spent the last 30 years projecting power 
forward to combat rogue regimes and violent extremists overseas, our 
global competitors pursued capabilities to circumvent our legacy 
warning and defensive systems and hold our Homeland at risk. Peer 
competitors like Russia and China are undermining the international 
rules-based order and challenging us in all domains. Further, rogue 
states like North Korea and Iran are also pursuing capabilities to 
nullify our military advantages, threaten our networks with cyber 
weapons, and--in the case of North Korea--develop nuclear weapons. 
Meanwhile, violent extremist organizations continue to devise plots to 
attack our citizens and our way of life.
    During the Cold War, we were overwhelmingly focused on defending 
the United States and Canada from a single nation-state threat. After 
the Soviet collapse, Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and later the September 
11, 2001 attacks shifted our focus to non-state and rogue actors. 
Today, we don't have the luxury of focusing regionally or on only one 
threat at a time. In the last decade, we've seen a sharp resurgence in 
the Nation-State threat as our global competitors deploy increasingly 
sophisticated capabilities to hold the United States and Canada at risk 
and limit our options in a crisis. Concurrently, the terrorist threat 
continues to evolve in ways that challenge our Homeland defense 
capabilities. As a result, today's threat environment is likely the 
most complex we have ever faced, as potential adversaries threaten us 
in all domains and from all vectors.
Russia
    Russia presents a persistent, proximate threat to the United States 
and Canada and remains the most acute challenge to our Homeland defense 
mission. Russian leaders seek to erode our influence, assert their 
regional dominance, and reclaim their status as a global power through 
a whole-of-government strategy that includes information operations, 
deception, economic coercion, and the threat of military force.
    In peacetime, Russian actors conduct sophisticated influence 
operations to fan flames of discord in the United States and undermine 
faith in our democratic institutions. In crisis or conflict, we should 
expect Russia to employ its broad range of advanced capabilities--non-
kinetic, conventional, and nuclear--to threaten our critical 
infrastructure in an attempt to limit our ability to project forces and 
to attempt to compel de-escalation. Offensive capabilities Russia has 
fielded over the last several years include advanced cyber and 
counterspace weapons and a new generation of long-range and highly 
precise land-attack cruise missiles--including hypersonics. These 
capabilities complicate our ability to detect and defend against an 
inbound attack from the air, sea, and even those originating from 
Russian soil.
    Russia also continues to modernize all three legs of its nuclear 
triad. In December 2019, Russia fielded the world's first two 
intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) equipped with a hypersonic 
glide vehicle payload that will challenge our ability to provide 
actionable warning and attack assessment. In the coming years, Russia 
hopes to field a series of even more advanced weapons intended to 
ensure its ability to deliver nuclear weapons to the United States. 
These include the Poseidon transoceanic nuclear torpedo and the 
Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile, which--if perfected--could 
enable strikes from virtually any vector due to its extreme range and 
endurance.
    Finally, Russia continues to conduct frequent military operations 
in the approaches to North America. Last year, NORAD responded to more 
Russian military flights off the coast of Alaska than we've seen in any 
year since the end of the Cold War. These Russian military operations 
include multiple flights of heavy bombers, anti-submarine aircraft, and 
intelligence collection platforms near Alaska. These efforts show both 
Russia's military reach and how they rehearse potential strikes on our 
Homeland. Last summer, the Russian Navy focused its annual OCEAN SHIELD 
exercise on the defense of Russia's maritime approaches in the Arctic 
and Pacific. The multi-fleet exercise, intended in part to demonstrate 
Russia's ability to control access to the Arctic through the Bering 
Strait, included amphibious landings on the Chukotka Peninsula opposite 
Alaska, as well as anti-submarine patrols and anti-ship cruise missile 
launches from within the U.S. Exclusive Economic Zone.
China
    China continues to pursue an aggressive geopolitical strategy that 
seeks to undermine United States influence around the globe and shape 
the international environment to its advantage. In the USNORTHCOM area 
of responsibility, China has made deliberate attempts to increase its 
economic and political influence with our close partners in Mexico and 
The Bahamas. While the United States remains the economic and military 
partner of choice in the region, China is seeking to grow its trade and 
investment in Mexico and, over the past few years, has invested in The 
Bahamas' vital tourism sector through marquee infrastructure projects. 
Militarily, China is rapidly advancing a modernization program that 
seeks to erode our military advantages and deter us from intervening in 
a regional conflict.
    China remains among the world's most capable and brazen cyber 
actors, stealing volumes of sensitive data from United States 
Government, military, academic, cleared defense contractors, and other 
commercial networks each year. In a crisis, China is postured to 
transition rapidly from cyber exploitation to cyber attack in an 
attempt to frustrate our ability to flow forces across the Pacific, and 
globally. China also continues to advance its counter-space 
capabilities that could threaten our space-based communications and 
sensors. In the foreseeable future, China will likely be able to 
augment its cyber-attack capabilities with a new family of long-range 
precision-strike weapons capable of targeting key logistical nodes on 
our West Coast that support United States mobilization and sustainment.
    China also continues to expand and modernize its strategic nuclear 
forces to rival those of Russia and the United States in 
sophistication, if not in numbers. Over the last decade, China fielded 
dozens of road-mobile ICBMs and several ballistic missile submarines 
designed to enhance the survivability of China's nuclear deterrent and 
ensure its ability to retaliate following any attack. In the next 
decade, China will deploy a new generation of advanced weapons--some of 
them hypersonic--that will further diversify their nuclear strike 
options and any attack. In the next decade, China will deploy a new 
generation of advanced weapons--some of them hypersonic--that will 
further diversify their nuclear strike options and any attack. In the 
next decade, China will deploy a new generation of advanced weapons--
some of them hypersonic--that will further diversify their nuclear 
strike options and
North Korea and Iran
    The Kim Jong-un regime has achieved alarming success in its quest 
to demonstrate the capability to threaten the United States Homeland 
with nuclear-armed ICBMs, believing such weapons are necessary to deter 
U.S. military action and ensure his regime's survival. In 2017, North 
Korea successfully tested a thermonuclear device--increasing the 
destructive potential of their strategic weapons by an order of 
magnitude--as well as three ICBMs capable of ranging the United States. 
In October 2020, North Korea unveiled a new ICBM considerably larger 
and presumably more capable than the systems they tested in 2017, 
further increasing the threat posed to our Homeland. The North Korean 
regime has also indicated that it is no longer bound by the unilateral 
nuclear and ICBM testing moratorium announced in 2018, suggesting that 
Kim Jong-un may begin flight testing an improved ICBM design in the 
near future.
    Iran continues to advance its military technologies and threaten 
the security of United States Forces and allies throughout the Middle 
East. Iran adheres to a self-imposed range limit on its ballistic 
missile force that prevents it from directly threatening the United 
States. Nonetheless, Iran is developing and testing ICBM-relevant 
technologies through its theater missiles and space launch platforms--
including its first successful orbit of a military satellite in April 
of 2020--that could accelerate the development of a Homeland-
threatening ICBM should Iran's leaders choose to pursue such a system. 
Iran retains the ability to conduct attacks via covert operations, 
terrorist proxies, and its growing cyber-attack capabilities, which it 
has already employed against United States financial institutions.
Violent Extremist Organizations
    The terrorist threat has grown more diffuse, typified by simple 
attacks inspired from afar and carried out by individuals or small 
networks that are difficult for our law enforcement partners to detect 
and interdict. Foreign terrorist groups remain committed to attacking 
the United States, either directly or by inspiring homegrown violent 
extremists (HVEs) to act in their stead. Despite their territorial 
losses over the last several years, ISIS leaders--along with their more 
patient counterparts in al-Qa'ida--remain highly adaptive foes who are 
largely immune to traditional means of deterrence. Commercial and 
general aviation persist as preferred targets due to the 
disproportionate economic and psychological impact of such attacks. 
Meanwhile, foreign terrorists and HVEs continue to target U.S. military 
personnel both on and off base, as exemplified by the December 2019 
shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola.
Transnational Criminal Organizations
    Transnational Criminal Organizations undermine the security of the 
United States, and that of our allies and partners, through 
increasingly violent and destabilizing activities that threaten the 
rule of law and our shared democratic institutions. These organizations 
have increased their collaboration with criminal groups beyond North 
America, which has increased their resilience. In our interconnected 
Western Hemisphere and globally, we must minimize the negative effect 
of organized criminal activity by aligning strategies, policies, plans, 
and authorities with the associated personnel and resources--across the 
United States Government and with allies and partners--to significantly 
diminish this proximate threat. All of this requires a coordinated 
whole-of-government effort to understand and manage these networks, as 
well as shared domain awareness across our government, allies, and 
partners. This national security imperative is integral to contesting 
peer competitors.
                         defending the homeland
    USNORTHCOM's defense of the Homeland provides the foundation for 
the full spectrum of the Department of Defense's worldwide missions and 
supports the missions of every other combatant command. The ability to 
deploy forces overseas, support allies, deliver humanitarian 
assistance, and provide presence and reassurance around the globe 
relies on our ability to safeguard our citizens, as well as national 
critical infrastructure, transportation nodes, and leadership. As 
competitors field highly advanced and agile long-range weapons systems 
and seek to act on growing territorial ambitions, we are adapting our 
thinking, evolving our own capabilities, and enhancing our operations 
and exercises to accurately reflect a changing world while remaining a 
relevant force.
    The United States has long relied on our nuclear arsenal to serve 
as the strategic deterrent against an attack on our Homeland. In 
today's threat environment, strategic deterrence remains foundational 
to our national defense. A safe, secure, and effective nuclear force 
remains the most credible combination of capabilities to deter 
strategic attack and execute our national strategy. The U.S. strategic 
deterrent has helped to maintain a careful balance between nuclear 
powers and remains the bedrock of our national defense, as the 
longstanding doctrine of deterrence by punishment makes clear to 
potential adversaries that a large-scale attack on the United States or 
our allies would result in an overwhelming and devastating response.
    However, over the last decade, our competitors have adapted new 
techniques and fielded advanced weapons systems with the potential to 
threaten the Homeland below the nuclear threshold. Simply stated, the 
missiles and delivery platforms now in the hands of our competitors 
present a significant challenge to our legacy warning and assessment 
systems and defensive capabilities. Advanced systems posing threats to 
the Homeland have already been fielded in large numbers, and our 
defensive capabilities have not kept pace with the threat. The notion 
that the Homeland is not a sanctuary has been true for some time, and 
that will remain the case for the foreseeable future. Therefore, we 
must ensure effective nuclear and conventional deterrents are in place 
to defend the Homeland and ensure our ability to project power where 
and when it is needed.
    Highly advanced cruise missiles, hypersonic missiles, and stealthy 
delivery platforms provide our competitors with the ability to hold 
targets in the Homeland at risk with conventional weapons. That fact 
has led us to emphasize improved all-domain awareness and the 
development of a layered sensing grid to provide warfighters and 
decision makers at the strategic, operational, and tactical levels with 
increased awareness and decision space.
    The reality of a vulnerable Homeland and the risks associated with 
rising global competition are driving our commands to collaborate with 
interagency and industry partners to find and deliver smarter, more 
affordable technology. To outpace our competitors, we cannot be 
satisfied with incremental steps; instead, we must continue to increase 
the pace and tempo of our technological advancements. This work is 
essential, and we are proud of our close collaboration with a host of 
interagency and industry partners and international allies as we work 
together to outthink our competition, outpace threats, and defend what 
we hold most dear. That global focus and cooperation is also reflected 
in our growing wargaming capacity, including major Homeland defense 
exercises such as VIGILANT SHIELD and our participation in the Large 
Scale Global Exercise series.
                    the path to decision superiority
    I believe our future success in USNORTHCOM, our fellow U.S. 
combatant commands, and NORAD requires all-domain awareness, 
information dominance, and decision superiority. Our competitors have 
invested heavily in weapons systems that can be launched against 
distant targets with little to no warning, as well as stealthy delivery 
platforms specifically designed to evade detection by existing sensors. 
As a result, the successful execution of USNORTHCOM and NORAD missions 
in the digital age relies on significantly improving global all-domain 
awareness through the development of a fused ecosystem of networked 
sensors extending from space to the seafloor.
    This network will pull data from an array of repurposed systems, 
legacy sensors enhanced through low-cost software modifications, and a 
limited number of new sensors to provide robust indications and warning 
and persistent tracking of the full spectrum of potential threats to 
the Homeland from the seafloor to on orbit. Integrating and sharing 
data from this global sensor network into common platforms will allow 
leaders to observe potential adversaries' actions earlier in the 
decision cycle, providing more time and decision space at all levels.
    That decision space is where the true value of improved domain 
awareness resides. Harnessing the capability of distributed multi-
domain sensors, machine learning, and artificial intelligence will 
provide military leaders, the intelligence community, and senior 
civilian officials with the information necessary to anticipate, rather 
than react to, competitors' actions.
    All-domain awareness is the first critical step on the path to 
decision superiority, and USNORTHCOM and NORAD require and have 
prioritized capabilities that improve our domain awareness and global 
integration with our fellow warfighters. Sensors and systems such as 
Over the Horizon Radars, polar satellite communications, Integrated 
Underwater Sensor Systems, and space-based missile warning and tracking 
sensors are essential to our missions. While the benefits to 
continental defense are clear, these capabilities will also help every 
U.S. combatant commander around the world while enhancing USNORTHCOM 
and NORAD's collective ability to defend the United States and Canada.
    In September 2020, just after I assumed command of USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD, the commands partnered with the United States Air Force and 
United States Space Command in the second onramp demonstration of the 
Air Force's Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS). This large-scale 
joint force demonstration established a network with embedded machine 
learning and artificial intelligence to rapidly detect, track, and 
positively identify a simulated cruise missile threat, while providing 
a common operating picture and all-domain awareness for commanders at 
multiple levels.
    The ABMS onramp demonstration provided a brief but exciting glimpse 
into the future of USNORTHCOM and NORAD. By creating potential pathways 
for accessing and distributing data in ways that allow leaders to 
think, plan, and act globally rather than relying on outdated regional 
approaches, we are significantly amplifying the capability of the joint 
force. Through these and other efforts, USNORTHCOM and NORAD are 
actively working to deliver information dominance by fusing new 
technologies to increase decision space for commanders and senior 
civilian decision makers. Ultimately, our objective is to enable 
leaders and commanders all over the world to quickly assess any 
situation and take the steps necessary to stay well ahead of an 
adversary's next moves in order to deter and deny in competition, de-
escalate in crisis, and defeat in conflict.
    The prototype Pathfinder data analytics project provides another 
example of how USNORTHCOM and NORAD are working to leverage existing 
but stovepiped data streams to the benefit of both operational and 
strategic decision makers. In our ongoing prototype efforts, Pathfinder 
gathers data from multiple distinct military and civilian air domain 
sensors and, through automation and machine learning models, produces a 
fused common operating picture to improve the reliability of the data 
and increase the decision space that will someday soon be available in 
real time to our assessors and watch-standers. This low-cost, rapidly 
developed system will have long-term benefits for our domain awareness 
and has already shown some of the advantages that information dominance 
will provide to warfighters around the world.
    Information is power, but only if it is accessible, sharable, and 
actionable. Unlocking the enormous potential of the data currently 
being collected by a global layered sensor grid will allow us to gain a 
decisive advantage over competitors and potential adversaries. 
Currently, vast quantities of data are trapped by incompatible systems 
and antiquated organizational structures. Breaking down these 
stovepipes is achievable, but doing so will require innovation and 
coordination across various agencies, to include technology that allows 
for timely exploitation of the massive volume of data collected by our 
sensor networks. More importantly, it will also depend on breaking away 
from a culture that favors compartmenting and isolating information, in 
order to fully realize the full potential of our capabilities--
including those that reside with our allies and partners. As the 
defense and intelligence communities connect systems and sensors, 
consideration of national electromagnetic spectrum management policies 
is needed to ensure that necessary connections and bandwidth are 
accessible.
    As our competitors rapidly develop and deploy advanced capabilities 
with clear intent to overcome the U.S. technological advantage, the 
Department of Defense and the U.S. Government as a whole must also 
modernize our requirements and acquisition processes to stay ahead. 
Given the current pace of technological advancement, the limitations of 
the 2-year budgeting process and protracted acquisition timeframe 
simply do not allow us to take full advantage of the forward-thinking 
solutions our industry partners can offer. To succeed in this era of 
Great Power Competition, it is essential to rapidly deliver 
capabilities to the warfighter by streamlining the processes for 
prototyping, testing, and moving promising technologies into 
production.
    The success of USNORTHCOM and NORAD's Pathfinder program, along 
with much of the work done by DOD's Defense Innovation Unit, show what 
is possible when we provide innovators and technical experts the 
resources and flexibility to tackle even the most daunting challenges. 
The same approach should also be applied to software development and 
acquisition. Success in competition and in conflict will increasingly 
depend on the ability to field software-based capabilities faster than 
our adversaries. For that reason, I am encouraged by the new model 
championed by the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for 
Acquisition and Sustainment that will enable the Department of Defense 
to acquire software through modern development practices and deliver 
needed capability at the speed of relevance.
    Armed with timely and accurate information, equipped with modern 
sensors and software, and backed by a flexible and responsive 
conventional deterrent that provides defeat mechanisms below the 
nuclear threshold, commanders will achieve decision superiority with 
the options and time necessary to allocate resources wherever needed to 
deny or deter aggression in competition, de-escalate potential crises, 
and defeat adversaries should conflict arise.
                            missile defense
Ballistic Missile Defense
    The need for a robust and modern ballistic missile defense system 
has been strongly reinforced over the past year. Despite United States 
efforts in 2020 to reach an agreement with Kim Jong-un, North Korea 
continued its development of ICBMs capable of striking targets in the 
United States. As North Korea continues its pursuit of advanced long-
range strategic weapons--including the new systems displayed during 
their 10 October 2020 parade--USNORTHCOM remains committed to 
maximizing the capability and capacity of our ballistic missile defense 
systems.
    USNORTHCOM is focused on developing and fielding advanced sensors 
capable of tracking potential missile threats and providing improved 
discrimination capability to our warfighters and assessors. 
Simultaneously, USNORTHCOM is collaborating with our partners in the 
Missile Defense Agency (MDA) to ensure that the Next Generation 
Interceptor (NGI) is fielded and operational as soon as possible. Of 
note, USNORTHCOM worked hand-in-hand with MDA to ensure all of our 
operational requirements are addressed in the NGI acquisition process. 
When fielded, NGI will add 20 interceptors to the current inventory, 
and will provide greater reliability and capability.
    As competitor missile technology advances, USNORTHCOM is also 
working with MDA toward a layered missile defense capability that will 
allow for a more flexible and responsive defense of the Homeland 
against both ballistic missile and cruise missile threats. The 
successful engagement of an ICBM-class target by an SM3-IIA interceptor 
on 16 November 2020 was an historic achievement and a critical step 
toward establishing this layered capability. Defending the United 
States Homeland against the ballistic missile threat remains a complex 
and technically challenging endeavor, and I am grateful to the 
Committee for your continued support as we take the steps necessary to 
ensure the success of this critical mission.
Cruise Missile Defense
    NORAD is devoting significant attention and resources toward 
mitigating the current and emerging threat presented by advanced, long-
range cruise missiles. These sophisticated weapons are difficult to 
detect and can be launched from significant distances against targets 
in the United States and Canada from launch sites on Russian soil and 
by long-range bombers, attack submarines, and surface vessels. Whether 
subsonic or hypersonic, these missiles can range targets in the 
Homeland and present a very real challenge for our defensive 
capabilities. Russia has already amassed an inventory of both nuclear 
and conventional variants, while China is expected to develop similar 
capabilities in the next decade.
    The proliferation of these systems creates all the more incentive 
for focused investments in improved sensor networks, domain awareness, 
and information dominance capabilities. Those investments, coupled with 
the development of layered denial, deterrence, and defeat mechanisms 
capable of addressing current and emerging threats, are fundamental to 
the defense of our Homeland.
                               the arctic
    The Arctic provides an avenue of approach to North America as well 
as a representation of the changing physical and geostrategic 
environment that is actively shaping our future plans and requirements. 
The escalation of Russian activity and Chinese ambitions in the region 
demonstrates the strategic importance of the Arctic. Competition will 
only increase as sea ice diminishes and competition for resources 
expands. Now and into the future, meeting the full scope of our mission 
requirements will require USNORTHCOM, our Service and fellow combatant 
command partners, and NORAD to devote attention, resources, and 
capabilities to the Arctic.
    Improving our domain awareness, communications systems, and our 
ability to conduct and sustain multi-domain operations in the high 
north are all important priorities for both USNORTHCOM and NORAD. We 
are fortunate to be able to draw on the experience and expertise of the 
Arctic warriors found in the Canadian element of NORAD, as well as the 
soldiers and airmen of Alaskan Command and the Alaska National Guard. 
Multi-command Arctic exercises like ARCTIC EDGE, ICEX, and NORTHERN 
EDGE provide valuable experience and lessons learned for conducting 
multi-domain operations in the high north, while the Joint Pacific 
Alaska Range Complex (JPARC) offers expansive and demanding training 
opportunities for the Total Force.
    USNORTHCOM and NORAD are expanding our knowledge base and ensuring 
that warfighters and partners are developing the skills and experience 
needed to overcome the significant challenges presented by the extreme 
climate and physical environment of the high north. We are also moving 
forward with our Canadian partners to fulfill mutual objectives to 
modernize NORAD by leveraging industry advances in infrastructure and 
expeditionary capabilities that will strengthen our ability to sustain 
operations in and through the Arctic.
    Every successful military endeavor is dependent on reliable 
communications. USNORTHCOM and NORAD are working closely with United 
States Space Force, each of the other military Services, United States 
Space Command, and industry partners to establish space-based 
communications networks that will provide greater reach, more 
flexibility, and the ability to communicate with every element of the 
joint force operating in the high north.
    I want to thank the Committee for your support for improving Arctic 
communications though a commercial constellation of proliferated low 
earth orbit communication satellites. This effort is well underway and 
will dramatically improve communications for military users in the 
Arctic, as well as for civilians in remote, high latitude communities. 
The capability will pay lasting dividends for all users and will 
enhance our defense of the Homeland, as well as our ability to provide 
defense support of civil authorities.
                              partnerships
    Our successes as a nation have long been due in large part to close 
collaboration with partners and allies. With history as our guide, 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD are building and fostering the critical 
interagency, interdepartmental, and international relationships that 
are so vital to any strategic endeavor. Just as we are knocking down 
stovepipes that impede the flow of critical data between organizations, 
we are also striving to expand our collaboration and communication with 
our partners.
    Canada remains our essential ally in the defense of North America. 
For over 62 years, the extraordinary and irreplaceable relationship 
between the United States and Canada has been demonstrated through the 
constant vigilance of the world's only bi-national command, NORAD. That 
bond remains as vital as when the command was first established in 
1958. Meeting NORAD's crucial missions to provide aerospace warning, 
aerospace control, and maritime warning in the United States and Canada 
has required the command to adapt and evolve to address new challenges 
and emerging technologies that threaten our Homelands. Canada remains a 
true and trusted partner in our common defense and continues to share 
the economic and manpower costs associated with sustaining and 
modernizing vital NORAD capabilities.
    Over the past year, our competitors repeatedly tested NORAD, but we 
have stood firm in our resolve and capability to defend the United 
States and Canadian Homelands. The year 2020 saw Russian military 
aircraft entering the Canadian and Alaskan Air Defense Identification 
Zones (ADIZ) on multiple occasions to measure our responses to 
increasingly complex operations. As Russia continues to modernize its 
bomber fleets and improve the proficiency of its long-range aviation 
units, NORAD must maintain the ability to detect and respond to all air 
domain competitors.
    In addition to our aerospace control mission, NORAD provides 
warning of potential maritime threats to the United States and Canada. 
This critical mission requires uninterrupted contact with U.S. 
geographic combatant commands, the intelligence community, and NATO 
partners to detect and track maritime vessels of interest well before 
they cross into the NORAD area of operations.
    The importance of this mission was illustrated in September 2020 
when Russia conducted portions of its Exercise OCEAN SHIELD in the 
Bering Sea off the coast of Alaska. NORAD (and USNORTHCOM) monitored 
the exercise, noting that although the Russian vessels remained in 
international waters, they were in close proximity to United States 
civilian fishing boats operating in the United States Exclusive 
Economic Zone. That Russia would conduct a complex military exercise so 
close to our shore demonstrates the necessity for a robust and capable 
NORAD today and well into the future.
    As further evidence of both the global nature of the threat and the 
implicit trust in our bi-national command, NORAD is developing the 
requirements for the defense of the United States and Canada against 
advanced cruise missiles. In this capacity, NORAD works closely with 
the U.S. Military Services, the Canadian Joint Operations Command, and 
a host of other dedicated DOD and Canadian Defence Ministry partners to 
share costs and ensure a clear, common understanding of the threat and 
what will be required to mitigate the risk to our Nations.
    Mexico is a vital partner in our cooperative defense, and the 
USNORTHCOM relationship with our Mexican military partners remains 
robust. While the COVID pandemic has forced both countries to cancel a 
number of in-person engagements and planned training events, USNORTHCOM 
and our Mexican military counterparts have ensured we maintain routine, 
close contact through virtual engagements. From leaders at the tactical 
level, to the Mexican military liaison officers assigned to our 
headquarters, and up to the Secretaries of National Defense (SEDENA) 
and the Navy (SEMAR), USNORTHCOM is proud of the military-to-military 
cooperation and the personal relationships fostered over the years with 
our Mexican counterparts. Through well-established forums such as the 
Bilateral Military Cooperation Roundtable, USNORTHCOM and our Mexican 
partners have remained in close contact throughout the pandemic, and we 
continue to make substantive progress toward mutual security goals. The 
Mexican military faces significant challenges from violent drug cartels 
and from the effects of the pandemic, but USNORTHCOM and our Service 
components will continue to stand by our partners and work to enhance 
our domain awareness in the common defense of North America.
    The Bahamas is an important partner that has faced extraordinary 
challenges over the last 18 months. The Bahamas continues to address 
the severe economic impacts resulting from Hurricane Dorian in 2019 and 
markedly decreased tourism resulting from the coronavirus pandemic. 
Even so, we continue to work closely with our Royal Bahamas Defence 
Force (RBDF) partners to improve regional maritime security in the 
southeast approaches to the United States. USNORTHCOM directly supports 
RBDF efforts by enhancing their domain awareness with maritime 
surveillance system radars currently being deployed across The Bahamas 
island chain. USNORTHCOM is firmly committed to our lasting 
collaboration with the RBDF and will continue to support our neighbors 
and valued partners.
    USNORTHCOM has also worked with our partners in Mexico and The 
Bahamas to address our shared challenges in responding to the impacts 
of COVID-19. Since April, USNORTHCOM has been actively supporting 
response efforts to COVID-19, using Overseas Humanitarian Disaster 
Assistance and Civic Aid funds approved by Congress. To date, we have 
conducted 63 projects in support of the Mexican and Bahamian COVID-19 
response, totaling $7.29 million. A portion of that amount consists of 
reprogrammed CARES Act funds which Congress approved for that purpose. 
USNORTHCOM and United States Embassy support to Mexico and The Bahamas 
solidifies our position as the partner of choice for these nations and 
is critical to countering nation states, especially China, which 
continues its attempts to make inroads in both countries through offers 
for COVID-19 medical support, large-scale economic investments, 
information campaigns, and material support for infrastructure 
projects. Our relationships with Mexico and The Bahamas enhance 
regional security and stability and directly strengthen our ability to 
defend the Homeland through continued close cooperation with these key 
partner nations.
                  defense support of civil authorities
    USNORTHCOM provided defense support of civil authorities at an 
unprecedented pace in 2020, and many of those support missions continue 
today. As the Commander of USNORTHCOM, I serve as the DOD synchronizer 
for the federal pandemic response led by the FEMA and the Department of 
Health and Human Services. In that role, we remain tightly integrated 
with the interagency effort to assist health care providers and our 
fellow citizens around the country. As we have supported our federal 
interagency partners throughout this difficult national effort, members 
at every level of our command have demonstrated extraordinary 
commitment to meeting every mission requirement while diligently 
safeguarding the health of our own civilian and military workforce.
    The 2020 hurricane season saw 11 hurricanes make landfall in the 
United States, impacting countless Americans, while catastrophic 
wildfires ravaged millions of acres and displaced entire communities in 
multiple western states. The Commander of USNORTHCOM was designated as 
the DOD synchronizer for the federal responses to each of those 
disasters, and the Command stood ready to support FEMA and the National 
Interagency Fire Center with title 10 assets.
                               conclusion
    As USNORTHCOM and NORAD look to a future marked by rapid shifts in 
the geopolitical environment and technological advancement, we are 
guided by the lessons of the past. Key among those is that we cannot 
overcome challenges in isolation. By viewing changing conditions and 
competitor actions from a global perspective, our problems become more 
solvable and the solutions more affordable. USNORTHCOM and NORAD will 
continue to build our partnerships, collaborate with fellow 
warfighters, and work toward overcoming shared problems rather than 
continuing to focus on point solutions to isolated threats.
    To that end, I look forward to working with the Committee and with 
all of our innovative industry and interagency partners as we move 
quickly to develop and field the systems required to defend our Nations 
now and well into the future. Together, I believe we can eliminate 
outdated barriers that only serve to stifle information sharing, and 
simultaneously foster a mindset that favors creative, forward-looking 
approaches over unproductive reliance on legacy systems.
    Finally, and perhaps most importantly, we will continue to 
prioritize our most vital asset: our people. With that in mind, I would 
like to take this opportunity to publicly recognize the select group of 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD personnel responsible for standing the operational 
watch 24 hours a day, every day. Their mission is crucial to our 
defense, and these military and civilian watch-standers have spent much 
of the last year under strict but necessary isolation protocols to 
mitigate the risk of a COVID outbreak. They and their families have 
endured long periods of separation during an already difficult time, 
and they have done so without any expectation of public recognition. I 
am honored to lead men and women of such selflessness and 
professionalism, and our citizens should rest assured these 
extraordinary defenders have the watch.

    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, General, and 
before we begin I want to remind my colleagues of the 
procedures.
    Since it is impossible to know exactly when our colleagues 
who will be joining via the computer arrive, we will not be 
following our standard early bird timing rule. Instead, we 
handle the order of questions by seniority, alternating sides, 
until we have gone through everyone. Once we reach the end, if 
there is anyone we missed we will start back at the top of the 
list and continue until everyone has had their turn.
    We will do the standard five-minute rounds. I ask my 
colleagues on the computers, and at their desk, to please keep 
an eye on the clock, which you should see on your screens or 
right before you.
    Finally, to allow for everyone to be heard, whether in the 
room or on the computer, I ask all colleagues to please mute 
your microphone when not speaking. Thank you.
    Admiral Faller, again, thank you for your distinguished 
service over many years. The Northern Triangle--Guatemala, 
Honduras, and El Salvador--is a particular unstable region, and 
many of those who are seeking relief and moving towards our 
border are coming from this area. Security and human rights 
have deteriorated there significantly, increased violence by 
criminal organizations and narcotics distributors. We can 
continue to provide security assistance to these countries, yet 
corruption remains rampant and international efforts to build 
capabilities are not effective.
    In Honduras, in particular, the corruption appears to have 
reached the highest level of the government. The criminal trial 
in the Southern District of New York of the Honduran 
President's brother unearthed evidence of the Honduran 
President and other senior officials taking millions of dollars 
in bribes from drug traffickers. Honduran security forces are 
also documented as having engaged in gross human rights 
violations for years.
    Given all of this, Admiral, do we need to reconsider 
whether our approach to security assistance in the Northern 
Triangle countries is achieving our national objectives?
    Admiral Faller. The perfect storm of conditions that you 
outlined, Senator, of violence, the impact of the pandemic, the 
impact of the hurricanes has created untenable security for the 
citizens, and that is why we are seeing this flood of migrants 
to our borders.
    Our focus at SOUTHCOM should and remains in support of U.S. 
Government hold efforts. Our diplomats in our embassies, and 
that security cooperation is a long-term investment on the 
professional militaries. So institutional capacity-building, we 
have a longstanding human rights training program that has been 
effective in developing forces that know how to use force in a 
professional manager.
    Our Women, Peace and Security Program (WPS) has proven to 
be a game-changer. Those nations want to model and emulate our 
success. Our NCO development, our IMET, there is an appropriate 
place, moving forward, Senator, for our long-term engagement 
with our partners. They model their professionalism after us, 
and I can trust elements of the Honduran and Guatemalan forces. 
We vet them. We work with our interagency.
    Chairman Reed. It seems, in those areas, and other areas 
around the world, we have invested a great deal in the 
military, and we have developed effective military forces, but 
so much of this is a law enforcement issue and a judicial 
issue. Again, this is outside your lane, but a whole-of-
government approach would seem to need more of an investment in 
training police, in providing judicial remedies that are 
actual, not fictitious. Is that your view also? Do we need more 
help through our other agencies?
    Admiral Faller. One of the successes I have seen is 
watching our other agencies actually engage in judicial 
training programs and moving that forward. One of our own 
programs is the Defense Legal Security Cooperation Program, the 
Defense Institute of International Legal Studies (DIILS) 
program, out of Newport, Rhode Island, where we work with 
partners on how they can develop and effective judicial system.
    I think these programs are effective, Senator. It takes 
time to see the results of that effectiveness. But in the past 
year, when there was a lot of opportunity for our partner 
militaries to commit human rights violations because they were 
deeply involved in helping with internal security, they stayed 
on the field in a professional manner, and they did model their 
professional behavior after the training that we have been able 
to provide.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. General VanHerck, I am sorry, I 
have but a few minutes, but could you give us quickly sort of 
your takeaways from the COVID virus situation, what fundamental 
changes we might have to make?
    General VanHerck. Chairman, absolutely. COVID has given us 
great opportunity to reflect and learn on our planning, as we 
were ready. What we have done is continued to adapt. What we 
have found is that the support functions, the emergency support 
function process through the interagency is crucial, working 
with local and state authorities to ensure that we are synced 
up to provide that response. We worked closely with Department 
of Homeland Security (DHS). We worked closely with Health and 
Human Services (HHS), public health services, to ensure we are 
ready.
    In addition to that, we are going back and changing and 
updating our global pandemic and infectious disease plan to 
ensure that we are ready and have adapted the lessons learned, 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, General. Thank 
you both for your service.
    Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You know, there is 
a crisis on the border. I think we all know that. The number of 
migrants trying to cross more than doubled in January 2021 from 
the year prior to that, and the number of migrant children in 
custody has tripled.
    Now we have come a full circle. We do not like to talk 
about it. We had weak enforcement of our immigration laws under 
President Obama, and strong enforcement under President Trump, 
and now the expectation of a weak enforcement under President 
Biden is driving a surge of illegal migrants. That is where I 
have this picture here. They are all coming across the border, 
you know, they are coming fast, and they are all wearing Biden 
t-shirts.
    So we have got a problem down there, and I just have to ask 
the question. Admiral Faller, do you agree that a strong 
enforcement of the immigration laws serves as a deterrent 
against illegal migration?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, all nations deserve secure 
borders, and our focus has been on the heinous insecurity in 
Central America, caused by transnational criminal organizations 
that have no respect for the rule of law, rain violence on 
their population. They market in drugs and people and guns and 
illegal mining, and one of the prime sources that underwrites 
their efforts is Chinese money-laundering.
    So our focus has been on the source, working with----
    Senator Inhofe. Okay, but just a specific question. Do you 
agree that strong enforcement of immigration laws serves as a 
deterrent against illegal migration?
    Admiral Faller. The number one deterrent that I hear, when 
I speak to all our partner nations, is the United States 
judicial system. I agree, Senator.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay, and do you agree with that also, 
General? Simple question.
    General VanHerck. Chairman, as previously stated, border 
security is national security. I agree that we must consider 
our laws that are in place. What we are doing right now is we 
are supporting the lead Federal agency from NORTHCOM, which is 
Homeland Security, that allows them to enforce the laws that 
are on the book. We are providing support in the form of 
aviation support, ground support through detection and 
monitoring as well.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. But you do agree then----
    General VanHerck. I do----
    Senator Inhofe.--strong enforcement of those laws. You can 
have all the laws on the books you want but if you do not 
enforce the laws, it is not going to work. Do you agree with 
that?
    General VanHerck. I do agree with that.
    Senator Inhofe. Very good, and Admiral Faller, I am a 
little concerned about something in terms of resources down 
there. In your opening statement, or it was in the written 
statement, I guess it was, you said that you only receive less 
than 1 percent of all Department of Defense (DOD) intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR), only 1 percent of all 
DOD ISR. Is that right?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, intelligence drives everything. 
That allows us to have the domain awareness that General 
VanHerck spoke about, so we can then inform our other 
interagency partners what the threats are up to, and we have 
less than 1 percent of the ISR.
    Senator Inhofe. You know, I read that some time ago, and we 
had a visit. I tried to figure out how that could be. Maybe I 
am missing something here. Less than 1 percent of ISR comes 
into that area, and I do not understand. That is not adequate, 
right?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, we are short in ISR, in 
intelligence assets and security cooperation, and we have, in 
general, our posture is thin. We have got to be on the field to 
compete, Senator.
    Senator Inhofe. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree with that.
    You know, I know the border. Back in the days when I was 
enjoying life I can remember I was a builder and developer down 
there. People on the East Coast do not understand this, but 
there is an island down there called South Padre Island. It is 
actually--now do not leave because you need to hear this--the 
island down there is 140 miles long and one block wide. I was a 
builder and developer down there. I know the border, and they 
talk about the tough border security and what is necessary.
    So I just want you to know I am familiar with that down 
there, and I think it is doing a disservice not to talk about 
it. We need to enforce the border, and I do want to have this 
picture made a part of the record at this point.
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    Senator Inhofe. With that I will yield the floor.
    Chairman Reed. Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
both of you for your service and for being here this morning.
    Admiral Faller, I want to start with you because I find the 
maps that you have given us and the statistics on these 
alarming, to say the least. On the map that shows Chinese 
influence, if you were going to give us a map that said 
``United States influence,'' how many, for example, countries 
could we site that are hosting American infrastructure 
projects, and how many countries are enjoying training and 
military support or other economic support from the United 
States, and how many heads of state meetings could we cite 
since 2015?
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    Admiral Faller. Senator, our influence is eroding, and that 
margin is shrinking, and we would be best able to show that 
with arrows that have downward trends. It is important that we 
remain engaged in this hemisphere. It is our neighborhood that 
proximity matters, and as you pointed out, the Chinese see 
that.
    We hosted a conference last week at SOUTHCOM with our 
allies--United Kingdom (U.K.), Canada, France, and the 
Netherlands--who have significant interest in ensuring a 
stable, secure neighborhood. One of the foreign participants 
said that the region is in a lifeboat and it is sinking in the 
violence and it is sinking in Chinese influence.
    What I hear from my partners is, ``We hear you, Admiral 
Faller. We know that the United States military is the best. We 
want to partner with you, but when you are drowning and you 
need a life ring, you are going to take the life ring from 
whoever throws it.''
    Senator Shaheen. That is disappointing. I appreciate what 
you are saying and that was my reason for the question, because 
it is very clear that we are not keeping up in the way that we 
should in terms of influence and support in Latin America.
    Can I ask, when you talk about--Senator Inhofe raised the 1 
percent of resources that you have for SOUTHCOM, and one of the 
operations that you are responsible for is counternarcotics 
operations. In New Hampshire we have been dramatically impacted 
by the opioid epidemic, and obviously drugs coming in across 
our southern border come up Interstate 95 all the way to New 
Hampshire and northern New England. If you were going to define 
what percentage of your operations are counternarcotics, can 
you describe that, and if you had more resources would you be 
able to address more of what is happening with the 
transnational criminal organizations?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, I would like to start by thanking 
the New Hampshire National Guard, our state partner for El 
Salvador, a critical partner, and National Guard across our 
region. That is our number one force provider. They have stayed 
engaged despite the pandemic in a way that builds trust and 
partners, and helps train them. What our real goal is here is 
to train our partner nations to take care of their own security 
problems.
    We cannot interdict our way out of the narcotics problem. 
We have got to get our partners in the game, and this past 
year, despite a pandemic, they actually increased their 
performance, their involvement up to 60 percent of all our 
disruptions.
    But that is still not enough. We have got to focus on the 
source and the destination. One of the key areas that needs 
more emphasis--and we have really worked hard this past year 
with our partners--is in countering the money supply. I talked 
about the importance of that, really getting to break the back 
of these organizations. I would that, in that regard, the Drug 
Enforcement Agency (DEA) has cited Chinese money-laundering as 
the number one underwriter of transnational criminal 
organizations.
    So it has got to be a whole-of-government effort, and we 
have got to work to build our partners' capacity.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you, and thank you for your 
nice comments about the New Hampshire National Guard. I agree, 
they have had an excellent partnership with El Salvador.
    General VanHerck, I only have a little bit of time left, 
but I wanted to ask you about the impact that you are seeing 
from climate change on the Arctic, which we know is melting a 
lot of the ice there and opening up routes through the Arctic. 
What potential impact is that having on our national security, 
and what do we need to do to respond?
    General VanHerck. Senator, environmental change is having a 
significant impact, as it creates opportunities and it also 
creates vulnerabilities. The question is, are we postured to 
seize on opportunities and to defend against potential 
competition and vulnerabilities. This creates access, access to 
resources. Twenty-five percent of Russia's gross domestic 
product (GDP) is dependent upon resources in the Arctic, and 
both Russia and China are trying to establish new norms and 
rules and behavior for international law.
    I understand the time is out here. I would love to talk 
more to you about this subject.
    Senator Shaheen. I would love to hear that, and I would bet 
if we joined the Law of the Sea Treaty we might be able to 
better address some of the influences that China and Russia are 
doing. You do not need to respond to that.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Wicker, 
please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Faller, 
could you supplement, on behalf of Senator Shaheen and me, the 
three charts that she mentioned? There is a Chinese influence, 
Russian influence, and Iranian influence. Can you get back on 
the record and just do one that says ``U.S. influence"?
    Admiral Faller. The U.S. remains a partner----
    Senator Wicker. No. Will you supplement, on the record, a 
chart? I am asking you to do that.
    Admiral Faller. Yes, Senator.

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    Senator Wicker. Okay. Very good. Let me ask you then, 
Admiral, about the involvement of the Coast Guard in what you 
do. I am also on the Commerce Committee where we have oversight 
there, and I have grown concerned that the Coast Guard is not 
sufficiently resourced to conducts its own missions, much less 
support what seems to be a growing demand for having Coast 
Guard units supporting DOD missions to SOUTHCOM and other AORs.
    Do I have correct information there? How much do you rely 
on the Coast Guard not just to counter drug and illegal fishing 
missions but also for theater engagement with us and our 
allies?
    Admiral Faller. The Coast Guard is a tremendous asset for 
us, and they are on the field in a meaningful way. They are a 
top priority for all our partners, building capacity and 
countering the threats. Despite the pandemic, the national 
security cutters, the fast response cutters, these are well-
manned, well-trained ships, making a difference, day in, day 
out, including their aircraft. We could not do our mission 
without the United States Coast Guard. They are a principal 
source to counter threats in this hemisphere.
    Senator Wicker. Do we have enough ships to meet your 
theater requirements?
    Admiral Faller. We do not. We do not have sufficient Coast 
Guards or Navy ships to meet the requirements. We need 
additional assets and planes.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. General VanHerck, let's transition 
then to NORTHCOM, and once again I have the same interest as 
Senator Shaheen about the Arctic. I was pleased that the 
previous administration released an updated strategy for the 
Arctic. I am afraid that we lag behind our peers, particularly 
Russia. Is that correct?
    This year the Coast Guard begins construction of the first 
of a new class of icebreakers, the Polar Security Cutter. Six 
total ships have been authorized, a vast improvement over the 
two aging ships we have, but a far cry from Russia's fleet of 
40.
    Can you explain why icebreaking capability is so critical, 
and do you believe it is important to advocate for a larger 
fleet of Coast Guard cutters and icebreakers?
    General VanHerck. Senator, yes, thank you, and I agree with 
your assessment. We are lagging behind. Why it is so important 
is you have to be on the field to play. It is about 
persistence. Not only do we need to have access through 
persistence to break ice, to ensure that we can have Coast 
Guard cutters or potentially Navy destroyers or cruisers in the 
area, we have to have communications as well for persistence.
    I am thankful to the Committee for $46 million that got us 
started with polar communications. North of 65 latitude it is 
really tough to communicate. That will get us an initial start. 
But I also have a require for fuel north of Dutch Harbor, 
Alaska, which will also contribute to the persistence of 
competing in the Arctic.
    This is about persistence. We are in competition, as I said 
in my opening statement, and to be competitive with Russia and 
China, specifically in the Arctic, you have to be part of the 
on-the-field, if you will. So it is crucial that we do that and 
continue producing capabilities that will allow us to be in the 
Arctic.
    Senator Wicker. So fuel capabilities and communications 
capabilities are not where they ought to be. Last year the Navy 
was investigating the possibility of establishing a new base in 
the Arctic. Have you been involved in any discussions with the 
Navy regarding establishing a permanent base in the Arctic, and 
how could a Navy base improve your ability to execute U.S. 
Arctic strategy?
    General VanHerck. Senator, to answer your question directly 
I have not been involved in any discussions with the Navy. I am 
aware of the study that was done for a potential port, 
specifically with regards to Nome, Alaska, which will get after 
the requirement for fuel north of Dutch Harbor. That report was 
completed by the Army Corps of Engineers and submitted for 
congressional awareness.
    Senator Wicker. Would this be helpful?
    General VanHerck. Yes.
    Senator Wicker. Do you have an opinion?
    General VanHerck. It would be helpful to meet my 
requirement to have fuel for that persistence to compete with 
the Nations that are interested in the Arctic.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Now via Webex, 
Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral 
Faller, as you noted in your written testimony, Russia has 
eagerly flooded online communities in Latin America with 
disinformation intended to undermine faith in democratic 
institutions and in the United States. Separately, China is 
investing heavily in information technology that can be easily 
manipulated by the Chinese Government through discretion for 
espionage or cyber intrusions.
    Do you feel that SOUTHCOM is adequately equipped to do its 
part to handle the separate but overlapping risks posed by 
these efforts?
    Admiral Faller. Recently, in a visit to one of our partner 
countries, I had the leader of that country lean over and say, 
``How do I get rid of the Chinese information technology that 
was sold to get after the violence in the city, but then oddly 
appears outside the United States Embassy and other places, 
which are in the most secure parts of the city?'' These efforts 
have got to require a whole-of-government, whole-of-world 
approach where we offer safe technology and safe, affordable 
solutions, moving forward.
    For our part, we have really participated with U.S. Special 
Operations Command in standing up appropriate information 
capabilities to counter in the information space, and I think 
that effort is nascent. It is having some effect, but is very 
small scale, given the volume. In Russia alone, they had over 
17 million disinformation hits last year in social media. 
Outside Russian language, their Spanish language social media 
is their biggest effort, and they increased it three-fold last 
year, particularly trying to discredit everything the United 
States did to help our partners recover from the pandemic.
    Senator Gillibrand. Admiral, as you pointed out earlier, 
while China's economic coercion practices are only one element 
of its strategy to exert influence in the region, it is 
certainly an important one. Is there a way for SOUTHCOM and 
other U.S. entities to facilitate opportunities for economic 
engagement, where we can highlight the benefits of working with 
the United States as opposed to China?
    Admiral Faller. There are some great efforts that Congress 
has championed, the Developmental Finance Corps and others, in 
support of that. I think it is incumbent on all professionals 
like myself to learn as much about the economic elements as 
power as possible.
    But then to focus on what we do best, which is working with 
our partner militaries, supplying them professional training, 
professional education, and exercise programs. They want to 
partner with us. That is their North Star, and we have got to 
have the right security conditions so that we can have 
sustainable economics. Businesses are fearful when they cannot 
invest in a safe environment.
    Senator Gillibrand. Understood. General VanHerck, as the 
Admiral noted, it is clear that one of our biggest challenges 
in the Western Hemisphere will be China's technological 
engagement that threatens our security. Are we beginning to see 
any signs that China's growing technological presence in the 
SOUTHCOM region is forcing NORTHCOM to rethink its strategy of 
how it defends its domain, given the close proximity between 
the two regions?
    General VanHerck. Senator, we look closely at China's 
influence. They are absolutely in the NORTHCOM AOR, attempting 
to influence in the Bahamas, working through 5G, for example, 
the same thing in Mexico. We continue to defend all domains. 
NORTHCOM defends our critical cyber infrastructure with 
allocated cyber protection teams, and we work closely with 
Cyber Command (CYBERCOM) and National Security Agency (NSA) as 
well. We are the disc synchronizer for cyber if there is a need 
to provide defense support of civil authorities. We continually 
work with civil authorities as well to assess the needs for 
homeland security, as well as other agencies across the 
government.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. In your written statement 
you indicated Russia and China had developed hypersonic and 
nuclear warhead-tipped cruise missiles. North Korea is also 
advancing its intercontinental ballistic missile program. These 
weapons put our allies and our own national security at risk. 
The current missile defense is based at the Ground-Based 
Interceptor, or GBI, which was fielded 16 years ago.
    Since that time we have improved the system and grown the 
size of the available arsenal. Last year, we appropriated money 
for the Next Generation Interceptor, the NGI system, to improve 
our defenses.
    While I am clear-eyed about the threat posed by enemy 
states' missiles, it is currently a time of competing 
priorities, particularly in light of COVID. In your opinion, 
can we still rely on the GBI for the foreseeable future, and 
two, assuming we need to push back on the NGI system, how long 
can we rely on the current arsenal?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I am comfortable with my ability 
to defend the Homeland, including Hawaii, against a limited 
state actor such as Democratic People's Republic of Korea 
(DPRK), which the system is designed for, for the foreseeable 
future. The key thing is to maintain the timeline of no later 
than 2028 for NGI, to ensure that we maintain capacity and 
capability to defend against a ballistic missile threat.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Now via 
Webex, Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General VanHerck, 
I appreciated our discussion last week and I would like to 
revisit our conversation on the NGI. Senator Gillibrand was 
just touching on some points of that as well.
    When you talk about the threat that we are facing and the 
advancing threat that we are seeing, do you believe that the 
additional capabilities that NGI will provide the warfighter 
over our current interceptor fleet are absolutely necessary?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I do. It gives us extra capacity 
to go against threats that are developed that could exceed our 
current GBI inventory. In addition to that, it will give us 
capability, because the threat continues to advance their 
capabilities, such as decoys and diversion with that 
capability. So the NGI is crucial to give us that capability. 
It also provides us a foundation for our deterrence. It 
provides deterrence by denial. The nuclear deterrent is the 
foundation, but the NGI and the GBI give us deterrence by 
denial, Senator.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir. Also, you and I discussed 
the increasingly capable cruise missile arsenals that our 
adversaries possess and the very real threat they pose to the 
Homeland. In your opening statement you talk a lot about the 
concept of domain awareness. Can you talk about what that means 
for you, how it relates to the threats that are posed, say, by 
cruise missiles?
    General VanHerck. Senator, yes. Thank you for the 
opportunity. Cruise missiles challenge our legacy warning 
system significantly. They have generated very long-range 
capabilities. They can actually shoot cruise missiles--they, 
being Russia--today from over their homeland, which will 
challenge our legacy systems.
    We do not want to be in a situation, my personal opinion, 
where end-game defeat is our only option. We need to get 
further left, and that starts with domain awareness, left of 
the archer, if you will, before they take off, whether that be 
in a submarine, whether that be in a sea vessel, or whether 
that be in a bomber, to have decision space for our senior 
leaders.
    Decision space starts with that domain awareness. Once you 
take that domain awareness, whether that be from undersea, to 
space, to cyberspace, and everything in between, and you use 
machine learning and artificial intelligence capabilities, what 
I call information dominance, now we are able to get further 
left and give our decision-makers deterrence capabilities 
beyond the foundation, which is our nuclear deterrents, and an 
end-game kinetic attack, which would require a response, very 
escalatory in either one, Senator.
    Senator Fischer. You know, you are using all sorts of 
technologies now that you are applying on your demonstrations 
that NORTHCOM has conducted in this area. Do you have other 
examples you can share with us?
    General VanHerck. Absolutely, Senator. So we have a program 
called Pathfinder that we have moved out on over the last year, 
that takes information data. I am a believer that the future of 
competition, crisis, and conflict, he or she with the data and 
the information will win.
    What we have taken is an example. So you will remember, in 
2015, when the gyrocopter actually flew down from north here in 
the National Capital Region and landed on the Capitol lawn, 
that situation, none of the sensors in the area, whether they 
be the NORAD sensors that we have or other sensors alone 
detected that target. But when we took the Pathfinder 
capability and we analyzed the information, we took information 
that was left on the cutting room floor that was not previously 
analyzed, there that gyrocopter was.
    That is what I am talking about, information today that 
exists in stovepipes in government agencies, even within the 
Department of Defense, that is not shared more broadly. We have 
to take advantage of data and information going forward, 
Senator.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General.
    Admiral Faller, Nebraska's RC-135s are frequent guests in 
your part of the world, and we know that the Air Force is doing 
what it can, but there are shortfalls. Last year, you told the 
Committee you only have 20 percent of the ISR that you need, 
and the bulk of that amount comes from Customs and Border 
Protection assets.
    As a commander, you said that only 8 percent of SOUTHCOM's 
overall ISR need is met by military assets. Is that still the 
case?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, compounding that 8 percent figure 
we received a 46 percent cut to our ISR-related budget this 
year, in year, so that will significant challenge our ability 
to understand the threats of all types in the hemisphere. 
Intelligence drives everything.
    Senator Fischer. So what gets left on the table as a result 
of your inability to get that ISR coverage?
    Admiral Faller. A significant amount of movement of 
transnational criminal organizations, our understanding of what 
our competitors are up to--Russia, China, Iran. A lot gets left 
on the table that is contributing to this violence, that is 
driving the instability here in the United States and in our 
partner nations.
    Senator Fischer. We see their presence growing in your 
combatant command area, so I understand the need for that. 
Thank you, Admiral. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Senator 
Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for your service and for being here today. As you know, the 
COVID-19 pandemic has hit the Caribbean and South America very 
hard. I am concerned that we need to continue to stay vigilant 
against attempts by Russia, and most especially China, to 
exploit the suffering of our neighbors to the south to increase 
their influence in the region.
    Admiral Faller, in your posture statement you stated that 
China and Russia are using the COVID-19 pandemic to gain 
greater influence in South America. Can you explain how that is 
occurring, and what would you recommend the United States do to 
maintain American influence in the region in the face of that 
public health threat during that time?
    Admiral Faller. The conditions that the pandemic has caused 
in Latin America and the Caribbean rival those of the Great 
Depression here in the United States. It will take years for 
the region to recover. The IMF has estimated it as the region 
with the longest recovery time.
    We have seen, and there was a New York Times article today 
on this, China particularly move in with a heavy-handed mask 
and vaccine diplomacy, that they are using the vaccines to 
leverage deals for their IT, their 5G, and they are using it to 
try to drive a wedge between some nations like Taiwan and 
others in the region. This is indicative of Chinese global 
coercive, insidious behavior. We are seeing it play out. We 
need to stay on the field, with a whole-of-government effort, 
and once we have taken care of the United States, be first with 
a concerted plan to take care of our neighborhood with the 
vaccines here.
    Senator Blumenthal. I hear you saying that we need a much 
more aggressive and, frankly, humanitarian effort in this part 
of the world, our neighboring region, in fact, part of the 
Western Hemisphere family, to take care of people in our own 
enlightened self-interest.
    Admiral Faller. Senator, to date I have been very proud of 
the U.S. Government effort in personal protective equipment 
(PPE) and other COVID-related supplies. We are not taking much 
credit for it, but by far and away the single donator in this 
hemisphere, and the Department of Defense using our 
humanitarian assistance authorities, we moved out with small 
projects at speed, over 400 projects, $54 million, and it made 
a real impact. But the next phase is going to be in vaccines 
and long-term recovery, and we have got to be as aggressive and 
forward-leaning in that phase, I would say particularly in this 
hemisphere, because the proximity here matters to the security 
of the United States.
    Senator Blumenthal. It is not only a public health crisis, 
it is really a very deep-seated economic crisis linked to the 
pandemic, I hear you saying.
    Admiral Faller. Senator, in October I traveled with my 
Civilian Deputy Commander, Ambassador Jean Manes, a wonderful 
diplomat, great civ-mil relationship, in our headquarters. We 
went on our first multiple-day trip. We traveled to Central 
America, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Costa Rica. The 
hollow look in the eyes of our partners, they are struggling to 
fill their gas tanks and find food for their security forces, 
because of the stress the pandemic, and the violence, has 
placed. This creates real opportunities for our competitors who 
are more than willing to step into that violent sauce and take 
advantage of it for their own interests.
    Senator Blumenthal. It has ramifications in terms of 
generating flow of migrants, the drug trade, all kinds of other 
ramifications that are disruptive to our country, potentially.
    Admiral Faller. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Admiral Faller, I want to speak about the 
legal conditions on the ground in the Northern Triangle--
Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. Do the governments of 
those three countries systematically persecute their own 
citizens on the basis of race, ethnicity, sex, political views, 
religious beliefs, or other such categories?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, when I go I am lockstep with our 
embassies, and we have got great diplomats. We do not see a 
systematic exploitation. I work with the militaries, and the 
elements we work with are vetted and trusted, and I find they 
are doing the right thing, whether it is Honduras, Guatemala, 
or El Salvador.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. I think that is a very important 
point. The governments of Honduras and El Salvador and 
Guatemala do not persecute their own citizens systematically on 
the basis of race, sex, ethnicity, religion, or political 
views, which is the basis for asylum and refugee status under 
our laws. An economic migrant is not eligible for asylum. They 
are not eligible for refugee status. Asylum is designed for 
people, let's say, a Hong Konger whose student visa expires and 
does not want to return to Hong Kong now that the Chinese 
Communist Party has cracked down on that country.
    The reason we have a crisis at our border is because 
President Biden and his administration opened the border and 
ended the policies of the Trump administration that made it 
clear you could not make the very dangerous journey across 
Mexico, you could not pay smugglers and traffickers thousands 
of dollars to get to our southern border and then expect to be 
let in. If you let them in, more will come. That is why we have 
a crisis at the border.
    General VanHerck, we have been supporting the Department of 
Homeland Security at the border for some time now with DOD 
personnel. The most major adjustment of numbers was in 2018. Is 
that right?
    General VanHerck. That is correct. In 2018 and this year we 
are up to nearly 4,000, total numbers.
    Senator Cotton. Has the status of the border changed from 
2018 to March of 2021?
    General VanHerck. When you say ``status of the border,'' 
can you clarify?
    Senator Cotton. The conditions there and whether or not we 
are closer to having a secure border or do we have a less 
secure border now than we did when this major personnel change 
first started.
    General VanHerck. I would defer to Homeland Security for 
the security of the border. We are in direct support of 
Homeland Security for that mission. I can tell you the numbers 
of migrants coming across had dramatically increased here in 
recent months.
    Senator Cotton. What kind of strain does that put on our 
personnel at the border?
    General VanHerck. Our personnel being DOD?
    Senator Cotton. DOD personnel.
    General VanHerck. DOD continues to provide support to 
Homeland Security and Customs and Border Protection, mainly in 
the detection and monitoring. Total number of 4,000 does not 
place an incredible strain on the force, and has not shown 
significant strategic readiness of our ability to accomplish 
our missions.
    Senator Cotton. I have seen some media reports that suggest 
in addition to economic migrants, who are not eligible for 
asylum, showing up at our border from Latin America, that we 
are now beginning to see foreign nationals from other countries 
in Africa and Asia. To you knowledge, is that correct?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I am aware of intelligence 
reports that corroborate exactly what you just said.
    Senator Cotton. What kind of threat does it pose to our 
country that persons might be traveling from the old world to 
the new world to join these migrant flows?
    General VanHerck. I believe that we must continue to 
monitor anybody who has nefarious desires for our country. 
Homeland defense, border security is national security which 
equals Homeland defense. There will be people take advantage of 
the opportunity to come across that border.
    Senator Cotton. Yeah, I could not agree more, General 
VanHerck. I mean, if our border is open, anyone from around the 
world could get to Mexico and try to cross our border, not just 
to seek a better life here but to harm or ultimately try to 
kill our own people. I go back to this simple point: if you let 
them in, more will come.
    All the controversy you see in the media are misplaced, 
talking about how faster we are processing migrants through 
these detention facilities, or whether they have enough showers 
or beds or cots. If you do not let them in in the first place, 
you do not have to worry about the conditions in the detention 
centers.
    The Biden administration has to reverse course. There are 
three simple solutions. First, it should reapply the public 
health declaration under title 42 to all foreign nationals, to 
include minors, just like the Trump administration did, as the 
Biden administration still does for adults. Second, it should 
renegotiate a new migrant protect protocol with Mexico, which 
it tore up for no reason on its first days in office. Third, it 
should re-enter a safe third country agreement with Guatemala. 
If you are seeking asylum at our border, there is no reason you 
cannot seek asylum in Guatemala. That was the lesson of the 
last administration. Those three things alone will solve our 
crisis at the border, and they could all be done tomorrow.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and Admiral Faller, I 
want to follow up on the comments made about the border crisis. 
It is a crisis and there are important things that we must do. 
I want to puncture the partisan finger-pointing that has been 
done, because it is a crisis, I think that we all have to 
solve. The notion that this was bad under the Obama 
administration, fine under the Trump administration, and now 
bad again is just not realistic.
    During the Obama administration, we worked together in 
Congress on a comprehensive immigration reform bill that would 
have poured tens of billions of dollars into border security. 
It was bipartisan in the Senate. It could go nowhere in a 
Republican-dominated House. It would not even get a Committee 
hearing.
    During the Trump administration, we came up with a plan 
that was bipartisan in February of 2018, that would have 
protected Dreamers and put $25 billion into border security, 
every penny that the President had asked for, and when the bill 
was introduced with 16 co-sponsors--8 Democrats, 8 
Republicans--the Trump administration, having said that they 
would sign the bill--"You put it on my desk, I will sign it,'' 
is what the President told many of us--they decided, within a 
day, that they so did not like Dreamers that they were willing 
to turn away $25 billion in border security.
    We missed an opportunity in 2013 to put about $40 billion 
into border security because of a Republican House. We missed 
an opportunity in 2018 to put $25 billion into border security 
because the President did not like Dreamers.
    Now I do not say that to suggest that the problem at the 
border is the fault of one party or another. It is a challenge, 
we all have to deal with it, and we have to find solutions. I 
share my colleagues' views that one of the solutions is putting 
some tough laws in place and enforcing them. I think the asylum 
rules maybe need to be tightened up.
    I want to correct my colleague. He asked you a question 
about asylum rules, and asked if there was persecution for 
another reason, but he left out persecution based on political 
status. I can assure you, in the Northern Triangle, having 
lived there, there is significant persecution in the Nations in 
the Northern Triangle against political dissidents, against 
journalists, against environmental activists, and there has 
been a history of persecution against indigenous people. There 
are some other groups--my colleague is right. They are not 
being persecuted directly now, but political opponents are.
    In Honduras, where I lived, the Organization of American 
States (OAS) said, after the last presidential election, that 
the election should be re-run because they were so corrupt. 
Instead, the U.S. recognized the corrupt government and then 
cut off aid to the corrupt government, and then what we see 
today, as you said, Admiral Faller, is sort of a perfect storm. 
If we do not invest in security and economics there will be 
economic refugees, and my colleague is right, an economic 
refugee is not entitled to asylum status. But nevertheless, if 
we are not working to promote security and economic 
improvement, there is a natural consequence to that.
    So we need tougher border security, we need to increase 
investments in security assistance in the region, and we need 
to hold authoritarians accountable rather than turn a blind eye 
to their misdeeds. These are things that we can do and we can 
do together.
    General VanHerck, I want to ask you a question. Canada is a 
pretty good ally of the United States militarily, aren't they?
    General VanHerck. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Kaine. In my conversations with the Canadian 
Foreign Minister and the Canadian Minister of Defense, it has 
been a sore point with them that the U.S. uses national 
security waivers against them to impose tariffs. We have trade 
disputes with Canada over milk, over lumber products, over all 
kinds of things. That is not unusual given the sizeable border 
that we share. But they expressed to me a particular concern 
when the previous administration labels them a national 
security threat, and they point out, ``Hey, we fight with you 
in every war. We are side by side with you in military 
hospitals, at Landstuhl and elsewhere.''
    Have you heard a similar concern expressed, dissatisfaction 
from the Canadian side about United States using national 
security, labeling them a national security threat in order to 
impose tariffs?
    General VanHerck. Senator, my discussions with the Minister 
of National Defense, the Deputy, and also the Chief of the 
Defense Staff, I have not been engaged or had that discussion.
    Senator Kaine. Okay. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you, 
Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Now via Webex, 
Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, good 
morning. I thank you for both of your continued dedication to 
our country and for your previous service.
    Let me begin. I would like to start with Admiral Faller. 
Understanding and combatting Russian and Chinese influence 
operations truly is critical to our national security. Senator 
Gillibrand began this discussion with you a little while ago, 
talking about what is happening in our southern regions. 
Admiral Faller, I would like to talk a little bit about what 
our options are, what the tools are that are available to you 
to counteract that misinformation, and what tools you may need 
right now, or what additional assistance you need, in order to 
be able to counteract some of the misinformation that currently 
is occurring.
    Admiral Faller. I cannot stress enough the full-court press 
that China has on to gain their economic dominance in their 
version of a world order globally and in this hemisphere, which 
I look at this hemisphere as the front line of competition, and 
we have to approach that as such, as a United States 
Government, across all elements of power, with the diplomats 
and in the lead, clearly.
    Military plays a role. Our principal method to block 
Chinese military interests, the People's Liberation Army (PLA), 
is by staying engaged with our partners in our exercise 
program, our IMET program. These are world class. China has 
tried to copy them. They have tried to replicate Leavenworth in 
Spanish and Portuguese. We need to remain the best at what we 
do and ensure we provide the volume that is needed to allow our 
hemisphere partners to be professional and partner with us.
    In the IT space, we have to stay engaged to understand what 
they are up to. That goes back to intelligence resources.
    So I would sum this up by saying additional intelligence 
assets, continued security cooperation, and increased volume of 
IMET and exercises, and then enough assets to stay on the 
field. That includes our small special operations force teams, 
which are very effective. Last year we received great support 
from the United States Army to put some small security force 
assistance teams in places like Colombia and Honduras, which 
are having great effect, to train, and it is only training, not 
accompany, our partners.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Admiral. General VanHerck, right 
now you have got, on a day-to-day basis, you clearly have more 
individuals trying to cross the border into the United States. 
There is no question about that, and clearly that is something 
which most certainly, in your supporting role, will take up a 
fair part of your day. But at the same time you have one of the 
most critical responsibilities out there, defending the 
Homeland against those possibilities of strategic attack.
    Today we have this discussion going on about the need for 
the triad, the continuation of our triad, and also the need to 
provide specific defense protection against incoming weapon 
systems. Can you talk about the connectivity, or the connection 
between having all three legs of a triad available and also 
needing to still have the ability to defend the Homeland, and 
if we were to take away any one of the legs of the triad what 
that would do, in terms of increasing the challenge for you of 
defending the Homeland with missile systems set up to protect 
against incoming weapon systems?
    General VanHerck. Sure, Senator. First, the nuclear 
deterrent and the triad remains the foundation of homeland 
defense. I would defer to Admiral Richard on specifics about 
the triad. I know that the triad today was designed for 
specific capabilities to basically take the calculus of any 
threat and create deterrence options because of the flexibility 
that the triad creates. The most reactive forces are 
intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), the most flexible 
force is the bombers, and certainly the most survivable force 
is the submarines. Each of those contributes significantly to 
homeland defense. We have not had a great power conflict since 
World War II, and the triad and the nuclear deterrent has been 
part of that.
    With that said, our competitors today are trying to 
circumvent the nuclear triad and have developed, and stated 
intent, to attack the Homeland because they assume they can be 
successful to destroy our will, below the nuclear threshold. I 
am concerned about having the ability to give decision-makers 
key decision space in that realm, but not all end-game defeat.
    So deterrence by denial is what I talk about, and that is 
giving options to senior leaders to create doubt in a 
competitor or adversary's mind about their ability to achieve 
their objectives with a strike on the Homeland, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. My time has expired. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Now let me 
recognize Senator King via Webex.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and General, I would 
like to follow up on a comment made at the end of her question 
by Senator Shaheen, and ask in your professional military 
opinion, would it be in the interest of the United States to 
accede to the Law of the Sea treaty?
    General VanHerck. Senator, yes, it would be. It gives us a 
better posture, a seat at the table, more credibility when we 
work many of the issues that we have to work around the globe 
with allies, partners, and potential competitors.
    Senator King. That is particularly true in the Arctic, 
isn't it? That is where the Russians are staking claims as we 
speak.
    General VanHerck. Senator, I agree with your assessment, 
and as Russia takes over the Arctic Council in May, it has 
never been more crucial for us, with our like-minded nations 
and allies and partners that we come to agreement to not allow 
Russia and China to exploit any seams and gaps.
    Senator King. Thank you. I would like to turn for a moment 
to the immigration question and the crisis at the border, which 
everyone recognizes. Admiral Faller, I think at the beginning 
of your testimony you pointed out that there were significant 
what I call push factors as well as the change of 
administration, which is a pull factor. But the combination of 
the impact of COVID, the two major hurricanes, and the 
transnational gangs is making life intolerable for people in 
those Northern Triangle countries. Is that not also true?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, I have met with folks who have 
walked all the way to the border and come back, and their drive 
was the violence, the fear for their life, their lack of food 
for their families, the insecurity. In this past year, we have 
had that perfect storm of additional factors, COVID and then 
back-to-back major hurricanes. The region is fragile, the 
conditions are on par with our Great Depression, and our 
engagement is critical to help our partner nations overcome 
this challenge.
    Senator King. It strikes me that whatever we do on border 
security, and I am fully supportive of a secure border, as long 
as we have these three countries near our border that are in 
such terrible shape, people are going to continue to try to 
find ways to escape. I have heard the term ``we need a Marshall 
Plan'' for that region in order to try to stabilize these 
countries in terms of their own internal security, their own 
economies. Does that ring any bells for you?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, I think a Marshall Plan would be a 
wonderful model as we look at the entire hemisphere, really, 
and look at the sources of instability across the hemisphere. 
In addition to Central America, we see Haiti, Cuba, and 
Venezuela, all sources of illegal migration to the United 
States, and Venezuela alone, five million migrants now have 
swelled out of their borders. We need the big ideas. We need 
the sustained engagement of the all-of-nations and whole-of-
government of the United States, and the Department of Defense 
plays a role, particularly in that professionalism and 
institutional capacity-building so their security forces do the 
right thing and contribute to overall sustainable security.
    Senator King. You mentioned in your testimony the Russian 
and Chinese disinformation campaigns in these countries. Are 
they also encouraging migration as a way to undermine the 
United States? Do they see this as a weapon, just as they did 
with the Syrian migration into Europe several years ago?
    Admiral Faller. The disinformation by Russia seeks to 
discredit every act of goodness, and we do many that the United 
States provides in the hemisphere, and to the extent that 
drives migration there is no doubt. China seeks their own 
influence, their own economic dominance, and they seek clients 
while we seek friends and partners. I think their information 
campaign, best exhibited by a recent visit to a country where I 
was asked about the illegal and unregulated, unreported fishing 
in the region, and I cited the example of Chinese involvement 
off of Ecuador, where their fleets would, for great periods of 
time, go silent and sweep into the ecological preserve. Then 
within minutes after my facts-based statement, which is based 
on various credible sources, the Chinese proceeded to attack me 
and the media. That is just typical of their disinformation 
globally, Senator.
    Senator King. Well, I am out of time, but I think your 
testimony that you (a) do not have adequate ISR resources, and 
(b) there are not enough ships to interdict the drugs that are 
coming and killing Americans, including more than one a day in 
my home state, is very powerful, and that is within our 
control. That is a matter of allocation of resources, and I 
hope this Committee can bring some pressure on the 
administration to allocate adequate resources for ISR and for 
interdiction, because we are not even interdicting the drug 
shipments we know about, let alone finding ones that additional 
ISR could provide. So that is something that I hope this 
Committee can work on.
    Gentlemen, thank you both for your testimony. It has been 
very illuminating today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Let me recognize 
Senator Ernst.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and gentlemen, thank 
you so much for being here today and for your service to our 
great nation and the men and women within your commands. We 
truly appreciate everything they do for us every day.
    Admiral Faller, we had a great conversation last week, and 
you really stressed to me the importance of our neighborhood, 
and I want to continue visiting about that today because we do 
need to be very aware, and I think this Committee is, but that 
we have a lot of nefarious influencers within our own 
neighborhood, and I would like to talk a little bit about those 
transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) as well as those 
that maybe influencing those TCOs and where that is coming 
from.
    You have provided the placemats for us today--China, Iran, 
Russia. They are all influencers in our neighborhood, and they 
are all operating. We see the TCOs as well. They are operating 
to our south, and they are bringing about $90 billion of 
revenue annually. That is very concerning to me. Then the 
increase of movement across our borders is something troubling, 
that we have all been talking about today, and we have to make 
sure that we are defending that border and pushing back against 
these influencers.
    So let's talk a little bit about the TCOs and what they are 
doing in the SOUTHCOM AOR, and are they working alongside 
China, Russia, and Iran?
    Admiral Faller. The transnational criminal organizations 
are just murderous, violent organizations. They are murdering 
people, driving migration, and they are fueled on corruption, 
and so when I look at the interconnection of these 
organizations and the China-Russia players in our hemisphere, I 
look at corruption as a common element. It fuels both. Then we 
look at lack of regard for human rights, and there is a 
commonality there. Then we look at lack of regard for rules-
based international order, or rules in general, and there is a 
commonality there. So there is an interconnection.
    The money-laundering connection is the most significant, 
where Chinese money-laundering underwrites TCOs a significant 
portion, and that is something that we are tracking as part of 
all interagency effort here in the United States. This 
corrosive influence undermines our democracies and contributes 
to the fragility and the security concerns we have right in 
proximity to the United States. Location, location, location 
drives everything, and that location is so important in this 
neighborhood.
    Senator Ernst. So Senator Shaheen was asking about Chinese 
influence. So there is above-the-board operations going on with 
China, where they may be engaging in legal activities. But then 
you are saying they engage in these criminal activities as 
well, and under the radar type of criminal organizations.
    Admiral Faller. So the National Defense Strategy and our 
Secretary's guidance cites China as the pacing challenge, and I 
side with what the Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) commander 
said. It is the most significant threat we face in the 21st 
century. We want this competition to work out peacefully and 
not end in conflict and not be adversarial. But Chinese, in 
addition to the illegal, unreported, unregulated fishing is 
involved in illegal mining, illegal logging. They are at least 
tacitly supporting the money-laundering. They are using COVID 
and vaccines as a hammer to further Chinese Communist Party 
interests, particularly to get better deals for Huawei and 5G, 
and to try to drive a wedge between the remaining countries 
that support Taiwan, and the majority of those are here in this 
hemisphere.
    So yes, Senator, their corrosive, insidious influence is 
being felt right here in our neighborhood.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Admiral, and I appreciate our 
discussion to that effect last week. General VanHerck, in the 
remaining time that I have, we have had a number of our own 
troops working the southern border, which I think has been 
extremely important. They have been supporting United States 
Customs and Border Patrol. Are they still playing a vital role 
in the defense of our Nation at our southern border?
    General VanHerck. Senator, probably answered by customs and 
border protection (CBP) and DHS. My recent visit would tell you 
that we are playing a role to enable them to do their law 
enforcement role by providing support.
    When I look at the challenges the transnational criminal 
organization create on the border, the symptoms that we are 
seeing are the migration, the human trafficking, the 
counternarcotics. From a homeland defense perspective, Mexico, 
being in the United States NORTHCOM AOR, and two major 
transnational criminal organizations with the Sinaloa and New 
Jalisco, we have a national security imperative with regards to 
the instability that they create, the tragedies they create, 
and the opportunities they create for nefarious actors such as 
China or Russia, right on our own southern border, to have 
access and influence, and so it concerns me very much, Senator.
    Senator Ernst. Yeah. Thank you, gentlemen, very much, and I 
appreciate you safeguarding our neighborhood.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Let me recognize 
Senator Warren via Webex.
    Senator Warren. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and 
thank you to Admiral Faller and General VanHerck for being here 
today. We appreciate the work that you are doing.
    General VanHerck, COVID-19 vaccinations are well underway 
all across our country, and the DOD is helping people get 
vaccinated. Each day, millions more Americans are receiving 
hope in the form of these vaccines as we move closer to 
defeating this pandemic.
    But the data show that the vaccines are not reaching every 
community equally. Death rates for Black Americans and Native 
Americans, Native Alaskans are nearly twice as high as the 
death rates in white communities. But the vaccines have 
disproportionately gone to white Americans. Although vaccine 
demographic data are incomplete at this point, it appears that 
only about 7 percent of the 65 million administered doses have 
gone to Black Americans.
    So, General VanHerck, several thousand of the troops you 
command have been deployed to assist the Federal Government's 
vaccination efforts. Can you explain how Northern Command made 
decisions about the deployment of vaccine teams to ensure that 
communities of color are getting the vaccines that they 
desperately need?
    General VanHerck. Senator, absolutely. The United States 
Northern Command does not make the decision where teams go. 
That is done through the FEMA process, and we answer to their 
mission assignment and go to the locations determined by that 
interagency process.
    Senator Warren. Fair enough. Do you know if FEMA is 
prioritizing communities of color?
    General VanHerck. In my discussions with the Acting 
Director, Mr. Fenton, they do take all considerations in, from 
state and local officials, governors that are asking for 
support, and factoring in those specifics, and based on the 
need of where the transmission rates are the highest they do 
take all that in, from my discussions.
    Senator Warren. Well, it is hard then to explain why we are 
down at 7 percent vaccination rate for Black Americans. Can I 
ask you to commit that in future discussions, as you are 
talking about how to deploy these teams, that you will support 
making sure that we are making adequate vaccination efforts in 
communities of color?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I commit to you that I am 
agnostic with regards to where we provide support, and I will 
work closely with the FEMA team to make sure we do that.
    Senator Warren. Well, I would like to hear that you are not 
agonistic but that you are really committed to helping in the 
communities of color that are being hit hardest, and where we 
are seeing the highest death rates.
    General VanHerck. I apologize----
    Senator Warren. I am sorry. Go ahead.
    General VanHerck. I apologize. I am fully committed. I 
thought I said that, the second part.
    Senator Warren. Okay.
    General VanHerck. Absolutely.
    Senator Warren. I hope so. I am also concerned about 
reports of Russian misinformation campaigns against the vaccine 
that are aimed at reducing the number of Americans willing to 
get vaccinated. Can you just say a word about what strategies 
is Northern Command using to combat this misinformation?
    General VanHerck. Senator, it is an information and 
education campaign, primarily within our own forces. I am happy 
to report to you that we have approximately 85 percent 
acceptance rate within the command. In my discussions with the 
Secretary of Defense and within the interagency we have talked 
and shared the lessons learned about how to educate and also 
exploit or expose the disinformation. So I think that is 
crucial to combine both the education aspect and exposing the 
disinformation.
    Senator Warren. Well, thank you. This pandemic has not 
affected all Americans equally. Black and brown communities 
have disproportionately suffered from COVID-19, and its effects 
will likely be felt for years. Northern Command and the Federal 
Government's vaccination efforts must prioritize the hardest 
hit communities, and I hope that you will continue to work hard 
to ensure that the vaccine goes to those who need it most.
    Thank you very much, and thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Senator Tillis, 
please.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for your decades of service.
    General VanHerck, I want to go back and just finish, or 
make sure I understood, with respect to any DOD resources 
supporting local mission objectives around vaccine 
dissemination. You are there to basically provide personnel 
support after the decisions about where to administer the 
vaccines, which populations should be prioritized. You are not 
actively involved in that prioritization process. Is that 
correct?
    General VanHerck. Senator, that is exactly correct.
    Senator Tillis. Okay. Thank you. Admiral, I had just maybe 
an addendum to the request that Senator Wicker made, following 
on to Senator Shaheen's comments. This one graphic that shows 
China influence, I think what would be helpful in there is just 
to show American influence but also to show the trend lines. My 
guess is based on a comment you made, they are trending in the 
wrong direction. So I think it would just be helpful, when you 
provide that graphic, to show us the heat map on where we 
really need to muster more resources.
    On the TCO graphic, you all summarized the disruption in 
terms of narcotics, I think 313 metric tons in fiscal year 
2020. How does that compare to fiscal year 2019, and what are 
the trend lines for fiscal year 2021?
    Admiral Faller. In overall amounts, Senator, it is 
comparable. But what is significant about fiscal year 2020 is 
the impact of the global pandemic. So we know that, for a time, 
the narco traffickers went to ground and did not push as much 
of their product, and then when they did, because a lot of 
border controls were tighter and the methods of delivery were 
harder because economies had shut down, they ride their 
traffics on the backs of the economies so they were having 
difficulty getting precursor chemicals and so on. When they did 
start pushing it, it was in smaller loads, in different routes.
    What is significant about the DOD's performance, and as 
part of the whole-nation effort, really what we do is we detect 
and monitor and pass that off to law enforcement is that we 
never step back. We stepped up on the face of pandemic. We 
accounted for a significant increase of the amount that we 
targeted. So while the total amount was the same, our 
percentage of getting at effective targets was up, and that was 
because we did have a modest increase in resources throughout 
the year. The United States Navy stepped up, at the direction 
of the Sec-Def, with Navy ships, additional P8's, and the Coast 
Guard sustained their always excellent support. What we saw is 
when the U.S. stayed on the field, our partners stayed on the 
field.
    So overall we held the line, as part of the effort. We will 
never interdict our way out, but we have got to keep pressure 
on that part of the supply chain. The Colombians did their 
part. They had a record eradication year. Where we need to go 
next is in the finances, into their data, into that source of 
their power, and really break the center of gravity of these 
organizations, and I think we can do that more effectively with 
a better, effective targeting and whole-of-government approach 
here in the U.S., and training our partners to do the same.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. Something that would be helpful, 
if you do not have it available I would also be interested in a 
similar update on human trafficking disruption. If we could 
just get that submitted for the record I would appreciate it.
    At the southern tip of your area of responsibility, General 
VanHerck, and Admiral, the northern, what is the change in 
posture? What is the environment like now as compared to, say, 
this time last year? I mean, military presence--I know even at 
the southern border, the southwest border of the United States, 
we had stepped up Mexican military presence. How would you 
summarize that today, and then also the southern Mexico border 
and our border states, what is their posture there, trying to 
manage flow of immigrants moving across those borders, now 
compared to a year ago?
    General VanHerck. I will go first. From Mexicans' 
perspective, they are tremendous partners. We have a fantastic 
military----
    Senator Tillis. Are they maintaining the same sort of 
operations tempo that they have for the past year or so?
    General VanHerck. They are. They have been great partners.
    Admiral Faller. Same for Guatemala. They are committed, 
they are committed to doing the right thing here, but they are 
stressed with COVID and the other insecurity by the 
transnational criminal organizations. So their ability to surge 
more in the migrant problem set is limited.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. As we move forward with funding 
and National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) this year I would 
also be interested in maybe you submitting for the record key 
funding flow that are trending in the wrong direction that we 
should focus on when we get back to appropriations discussions, 
and any sort of authorities you may need in the NDAA. Thank you 
very much.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Let me recognize 
Senator Manchin.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank both of 
our panelists for their service to our country, and we 
appreciate very much you being here today.
    Admiral Faller, I do not think it is possible to overstate 
the threats are adversaries are posing in your area of 
responsibility and Africa Command (AFRICOM), because they know 
whatever investments they make in South America and Africa are 
cheap and will pay dividends in the future.
    At the end of February, United States Army South finished 
pre-deployment training for Operation Alamo Shield, to prepare 
1st Security Force Assistance Brigade personnel for future 
missions in Colombia, Honduras, and Panama. In addition to our 
state partnership program's ongoing training and advising, 
operations like this one are crucial for promoting 
interoperability and relationship-building in your area of 
responsibility.
    So my question would be, what specific training programs in 
SOUTHCOM are you going to develop to increase the capabilities 
and the capacity and to further combat the growing concern for 
corruption within the ranks of our partners, and especially 
with the migration that we have going on right now? Can't they 
play a bigger role in that, sir?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, I would like to commend the West 
Virginia Guard, which does fantastic work through the state 
partnership program with Peru, and has been an active 
participant in our exercise program. You cited the security 
force assistance teams that the United States Army has 
developed. That is exactly the right capability. It is small. 
It is small teams that focus on training, think four or five 
people, and our partners want to emulate the professionalism of 
the United States Army, the United States Navy, the Coast 
Guard, Air Force, Marines, and that is the way forward, staying 
engaged on the team, on the field, with the small teams that 
train our partners' trainers in the professional use of force, 
that involve Women, Peace, and Security training, that involve 
human rights training. This is the way to go, and we continue 
to emphasize and strengthen those programs, Senator.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, sir, and to General VanHerck, 
our current major ballistic missile defense assets around the 
globe include the ground-based midcourse defense (GBMD), 
thermal high altitude area defense (THAAD) batteries, Aegis 
systems, and PAC-3 missile capability. As China and Russia 
continue to increase their influence abroad I am concerned that 
their objectives provide them with the ability to deny us 
access, break apart our relationships, further corrupt 
governments, and ultimately place threats closer to the United 
States.
    However, as we begin to think in terms of hypersonic 
threats, geographical location does not mean much anymore, and 
the importance of early detection and coordination between the 
combatant commandments becomes an even more crucial concern.
    So my question is, as we continue to develop space-based 
sensor layers, what role do you see for NORTHCOM and NORAD in 
tracking threats in North America as well as interfacing with 
other combatant commands to track threats such as hypersonics?
    General VanHerck. Senator, wearing my NORAD hat, we are 
directly responsible for integrated threat warning and attack 
assessment, so that is crucial. We will continue to play a 
crucial role for assessment of threats to the Homeland, 
specifically from missile threats. I am concerned about the 
ability going forward to track and assess hypersonics, and so 
we must go to space, and in my recent discussion just this 
Friday, talking with Jon Hill at the Missile Defense Agency, 
they are moving out.
    What we have to provide is space-based capabilities to 
track hypersonics, especially as they maneuver, and those 
space-based capabilities have to provide fire control 
capability data to systems that will be able to engage 
hypersonics. That is crucial for that deterrence by denial 
aspect that I mentioned earlier, that also contributes to 
overarching deterrence.
    Senator Manchin. Is there a requirement for [inaudible] at 
each of our combatant commands that represents the other 
commands in order to build situational wellness to coordinate 
the efforts?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I believe homeland defense 
starts forward, and that means all combatant commands must be 
engaged and part of the overarching solution for homeland 
defense and missile defense.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, General. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin. Let me now 
recognize Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for your service. Good to see both of you again. Admiral, 
it has been a while. Thank you for all you are doing down 
south.
    General, I want to focus on some issues I know that have 
already been mentioned. First, on missile defense. One, I 
think, a good news story, that does not make a lot of press. 
But in the last few years this has been a strong bipartisan 
support in this Committee, in this Congress, on building up our 
missile defense I think, in part, because of the threats from 
North Korea. However, there have been challenges. Right now we 
have 20 empty silos at Fort Greely, which makes no sense. Some 
estimates are it is going to be 10 years before we have 
missiles in there.
    Can you talk to me about that, and why in the world aren't 
we filling those silos as soon as possible?
    General VanHerck. Senator, my goal would be to have 
additional capability and capacity as soon as possible. I 
continue to work closely with Jon Hill at the Missile Defense 
Agency. My top priority is to stay on timeline, to field 
additional capabilities against ballistic missiles that could 
attack our Homeland.
    Senator Sullivan. Isn't that in part because there is intel 
that given the rate of what North Korea is producing in terms 
of nukes and intercontinental ballistic missiles that their 
capability could overwhelm our capabilities as early as 2025?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I would like to have that 
conversation in a classified environment. I remain extremely 
concerned about the capacity of the ballistic missile defense 
system going forward.
    Senator Sullivan. Would quickly fielding the NGI help with 
addressing that challenge?
    General VanHerck. The sooner we can field the NGI, the 
better for addressing that challenge.
    Senator Sullivan. There was an article in a defense media 
news source recently saying that the NGI decision is on the 
Deputy Secretary of Defense's desk and yet it is being delayed. 
Some are thinking that she might kind of use this as a budget-
cutting tool to say maybe we do not need it. Is that a good 
idea to delay this and have the Pentagon say we do not need NGI 
right now?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I will stay out of the policy 
aspect of that.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, you kind of are already dumped into 
it, so let me get your personal opinion on that. Is that a good 
idea for the Deputy Secretary, or the Secretary, to say let's 
figure out where we can cut the budget. Let's cut the budget on 
the system that protect the entire United States of America 
from a clear and growing threat. Is that a good idea?
    General VanHerck. Again, that is a policy decision. My 
perspective is about the risk, and I remain very concerned 
about the risk of having a capable ballistic missile defense 
system against future capacity changes and capability changes 
by threats.
    Senator Sullivan. Would the risk increase if we cut the NGI 
program----
    General VanHerck. My assessment----
    Senator Sullivan. In your personal opinion?
    General VanHerck. In my opinion, cutting that would reduce 
our capability to defend against increased capacity and 
capability of any threats.
    Senator Sullivan. Mr. Chairman, this is a huge issue and I 
think we, as a Committee that has been very bipartisan, need to 
send a message to the Pentagon, like, hey, fund this now. It is 
clear it would be a risk to the country.
    Let me turn to the Arctic. I know there has been a number 
of discussions already. The good news is, in his confirmation 
hearing, Secretary Austin, Deputy Secretary Dr. Hicks, both 
said they were committed to this Committee to fully fund new 
Arctic strategies--I think the Army is going to introduce it 
today--with regard to fully funding the different service-
oriented strategies.
    Senator Wicker talked about icebreakers. It is good we are 
finally building them. It is taking too long. There is this 
leasing option that the Trump administration was looking at, at 
the end of the administration, and now the Biden administration 
is looking at. Do you think that is a good idea to close this 
icebreaker gap with the opportunity to lease icebreakers, get 
them homeported in America's Arctic, which is Alaska? What is 
your thought on that?
    General VanHerck. Senator, that is a policy decision. I 
have a requirement for capability. I am agnostic to what 
provides that capability.
    Senator Sullivan. But you think we need the capability.
    General VanHerck. Absolutely.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. So do I. So does this Committee, by 
the way.
    Let me ask one final thing. There is going to be a high-
level meeting between our diplomats and Chinese diplomats in 
Anchorage Thursday and Friday. We talk about Alaska in terms of 
the Arctic, but as you know, General, Alaska also is critical 
for the Asia-Pacific, particularly as we look at dispersing of 
our forces. We had the Pacific Command (PACOM) commander here 
last week talking about challenges, perhaps in the Taiwan 
Strait, as early as 5 to 6 years from now.
    Now important is it, do you think, that the Chinese, when 
they come to Alaska, see that there is, within the end of this 
year, going to be over 100 fifth-generation fighters based in 
Alaska, that can get to the Taiwan Strait probably in 6 hours?
    General VanHerck. Senator, Alaska is a strategic location. 
It is a strategic location for homeland defense, something that 
we must preserve and preserve that capability. I think it is 
important that they see our capabilities. It is part of our 
overarching deterrence.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Let me 
recognize Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and, gentlemen, 
thank you for your testimony here today and for your service 
every day.
    General VanHerck, a seldom-discussed area of the civil 
support mission is chemical, biological, radiological, and 
nuclear response, and this is good considering the subject 
matter, but as long as supporting units are resourced 
appropriately we can be more assured.
    So my question to you, sir, is, the Command and Control 
Chemical, Biological, Radiological, and Nuclear (CBRN) Response 
Element B has experienced a cumulative 25 percent decrease in 
funding over the past 3 years, and I understand these are title 
32 funds, and I know that you do not control those funds. But 
the effect should at least be of concern to you because the 
unit augments Northern Command for CBRN, and Defense Security 
Cooperation Agency (DSCA), more broadly.
    So my question to you, General, is, does the decrease for 
the Guard and Reserve C2 element reflect your priorities or 
those of the Army North and Joint Task Force Civil Support?
    General VanHerck. First I would say I remain confident in 
my ability to provide support in case there is an incident--
chemical, biological, radiological--in the continental United 
States, and with regards to the specific prioritization, I 
would say that I need to get further detail on the cut for 
title 32. I am not tracking that. But we are well integrated 
with state and local authorities and have our capability ready 
to go, some of it on an hour's notice, others on a day's 
notice. So I am confident in my ability to perform that 
mission.
    Senator Peters. Well, I appreciate that, and you are 
willing to take a look at that and get back to us? We could 
follow up with you?
    General VanHerck. I will.
    Senator Peters. I appreciate that. Thank you.
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    General VanHerck. Well, first, I would say I remain confident in my 
ability to provide support in case there's an incident chemical, 
biological, radiological, in the continental United States. With 
regards to the specific prioritization, I would say that I need to get 
further detail on the cut for title 32. I'm not tracking that, but 
we're will--well integrated with state and local authorities in have 
our capability ready to go some of it on hours' notice others on days' 
notice. I'm confident in my ability to perform that mission.

    I understand that National Guard Title 32 funding for Chemical, 
Biological, Radiological, and Nuclear Response Element B (CBRN Response 
Element B) has been slightly reduced, but I maintain full confidence in 
the National Guard's ability to perform this critical mission. 
USNORTHCOM is in routine contact with the Department of the Army and 
the National Guard Bureau regarding CBRN Response Element B's mission 
and associated requirements, and I will continue to place heavy 
emphasis on ensuring their ability to respond quickly and effectively.

    Admiral Faller, the Southern Command takes a nontraditional 
approach to intelligence, integrating public information with 
advanced analytics, artificial intelligence, and machine 
learning. My question is, is this in-house research, 
development, test and evaluation (RDT&E) effort unique to the 
Southern Command?
    Admiral Faller. The nontraditional efforts that you speak 
of, through our special operations force, looks at big data and 
what the enemy is doing in big data's commercially available 
information and machine learning, artificial intelligence. It 
is a unique effort that is now being replicated, and it is a 
key area that we need to emphasize in our intelligence efforts 
going forward, appropriately working within the U.S. whole-of-
government.
    This data, it is data that my shipmate, General VanHerck, 
talks about, and stovepipes in that data that we create with 
our own policies have to be broken down so we can leverage that 
to understand what the threat is doing. Certainly our malign 
actors that are working in this hemisphere, China and Russia, 
they do not respect laws when they look at exploiting that type 
of data for their own benefit.
    Senator Peters. You mentioned some of that is being 
replicated. Are you aware of some similar successful methods 
with other combatant commands or the intelligence community?
    Admiral Faller. We have a pilot program that we have 
worked, to look at cryptocurrency. In this hemisphere, with 
only 8 percent of the world's population, 60 percent of the 
cryptocurrency is being leveraged, and that is because of the 
plethora of transnational criminal organizations that are 
wreaking violence in the hemisphere. So that is a concern.
    So how do we get at that center of gravity to break the 
backs of these threats, working with Treasury and other 
partners, in support of. We are not looking to take the lead 
here. We are looking to play the appropriate role. So there are 
efforts, and those efforts are, frankly, funded every year on 
the unfunded request or through additional support from 
Congress. So we need to appropriately sustain that going 
forward.
    Senator Peters. Thank you. On Thursday, NORTHCOM will begin 
Global Information Dominance exercise, and I understand that 9 
of the 11 combatant commands are planning to participate in 
this exercise, which is meant to prototype and test a set of 
artificial intelligence (AI) tools, and I know there was some 
discussion about Pathfinder earlier. But the intent is to 
support joint all command and control implementation.
    So my question for you, General, is, can you explain why 
these types of exercises are absolutely critical to our 
modernization and readiness efforts and why NORTHCOM is leading 
this initiative?
    General VanHerck. Absolutely, Senator. From the NORTHCOM 
and NORAD perspective, we view data and information as a 
strategic asset. So we are conducting these exercises to bring 
everybody together to show the true value and importance of the 
strategic ability that we can utilize information and data. So 
we look forward to continuing to partner with the combatant 
commands, the services, and bringing them together to 
demonstrate capabilities that can not only help us in conflict 
but, more importantly, help us de-escalate in crisis and to 
deter in competition.
    Senator Peters. Great. Thank you, General.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator Cramer, 
please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank both of 
you for being here. I appreciate your service, Admiral and 
General.
    I am going to start with you, Admiral, because early on, in 
a response to a question from Senator Inhofe, you had cited the 
fact that you only get 1 percent of the ISR, and that was 
fairly stunning to me, especially since the Air Force has been 
trying to retire their RQ-4's and cut the production of the MQ-
9's, two systems that we are very familiar with in North 
Dakota, of course. They are operated quite effectively out of 
our state, one by the Air Force and the other by our Guard in 
Fargo.
    One of the reasons that they use for wanting to cut 
production or retire, and realizing some of it is that they 
want to save money for new systems, and that is noble. We need 
to make some tough decisions about that. But one of the reasons 
they use is these platforms are not survivable in near-peer 
competition.
    So my question to you, Admiral, is could you use our RQ-4's 
and MQ-9's in your theater, and is there significant threat to 
the survival of these platforms in SOUTHCOM?
    Admiral Faller. As you mentioned, Senator, we receive less 
than 1 percent of the DOD ISR, and it is a prioritization, and 
there are global challenges and I recognize how that plays out. 
But this is a good environment in SOUTHCOM for unmanned. We 
have had, for the first time ever, an MQ-9 through the past 
year, and we have Customs and Border Protection MQ-9 as well. 
They have proven their utility because they can stay on station 
for a long time and stare at the threats. They can also learn, 
in general, about the environment beyond the transnational 
criminal organization threat, so we have the understanding that 
we need to ensure that we are appropriately postured moving 
forward.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Admiral. General, thank you for 
our discussion last week. I enjoyed it very much. I found it 
very interesting, and I learned a lot, as is often the case, 
and one of the things that you and I talked about, of course, 
was the fact that NORAD and NORTHCOM participated with the Air 
Force Research Laboratory in an over-the-horizon study that 
included some testing at Camp Grafton, North Dakota, our 
National Guard Camp. That is part of the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense (OSD) Coalition Warfare Program-funded 
Arctic high frequency (HF) surveillance program. We were told, 
of course, that the results exceeded expectations.
    My question to you is, do you still the need for an over-
the-horizon radar system and capability, and do you expect 
further, more advanced testing any time soon?
    General VanHerck. Senator, my focus and top priority is 
domain awareness, and over-the-horizon radar would certainly 
contribute to domain awareness. My understanding is right now, 
with regards to the test that you are talking about, the 
current Northern Strategic Approach's study is with the Air 
Force. We are waiting for that to come out. I talked to General 
Brown on Friday about that. Once that report comes out we will 
in a better position to see, on the way forward, with the 
Research Lab, or however we are going to pursue that. But 
domain awareness is at the top of my integrated priority list.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you for that and thanks for that 
answer, and thanks for following up with General Brown.
    One other question for you, General VanHerck. There is a 
lot less military presence between Michigan and Montana, 
obviously along the northern border, than there used to be 
during the Cold War, even though, I mean, one could argue that 
there are more threats in the Arctic and from missiles coming 
over the Arctic even than there were during the Cold War.
    If there was a threat coming over the Pole, through 
Saskatchewan, say, do have enough fighters, tankers, missile 
warning, missile defense systems to meet that threat?
    General VanHerck. Senator, day to day I am confident in my 
ability to defend against the threat that we have. Day to day, 
I am postured primarily against a 9/11-type of response. If 
indications and warning or a crisis evolved, I would go ahead 
and ask for additional forces. At that time, if I was allocated 
additional forces or not I would have to make a broader 
assessment in my ability to defend.
    Senator Cramer. Well, and as you mentioned, obviously 
domain awareness is the critical aspect of being prepared. Is 
the radar coverage for that area modern enough to track any 
threat reliably, do you believe?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I remain concerned about domain 
awareness in the north, with the legacy North Warning System. 
If we apply capabilities such as Pathfinder, that will increase 
my capability. But more broadly, we need to get after it with 
more modern systems, systems not designed to go after a 
stovepipe, single domain, single threat. We need systems 
capable of going after everything from small counter-unmanned 
aircraft systems (UAS) to ballistic missiles, that are able to 
be efficient and effective.
    Senator Cramer. Excellent. Thank you. You are both awesome. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer. Now I would like 
to recognize Senator Rosen via Webex.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed, and I want to 
thank the witnesses for being here and for your great service 
to our Nation. I would like to speak a little bit about 
Hezbollah in the Western Hemisphere, because for decades Iran's 
proxy has long maintained an active presence in the Western 
Hemisphere, engaging in terrorist activities, drug trafficking, 
and money-laundering. In 1994, Iran and Hezbollah bombed Jewish 
community center in Argentina, killing 85 civilians and 
injuring more than 300. The Treasury Department has sanctioned 
numerous Hezbollah-linked operatives and entities in the 
Western Hemisphere for links to transnational organized crime.
    So, Admiral Faller, in your written testimony you stated 
that Hezbollah's external operations are responsible for at 
least three high-profile attacks in the region and three other 
planned operations that were disrupted. Can you elaborate on 
the threat that Hezbollah poses to United States interests in 
the Western Hemisphere, and if its presence is growing where do 
you see it growing?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, these threats go right back to 
Iran, the single largest state sponsor of terror in the world 
and the long arm or Iranian malfeasance is felt globally and in 
this hemisphere. Significant Lebanese diaspora. Lebanese 
Hezbollah receives funding support, and they are intertwined 
with Iranian state-sponsored terrorist in ways that undermine 
global security and security in this hemisphere.
    We have seen an increase in presence of Iran activities in 
Venezuela to support the illegitimate Maduro regime, increasing 
the readiness of some of their defense systems, and we have 
seen the continued involvement with the diaspora and economic 
fundraising particularly down in the tri-border region, 
neighboring Paraguay, Argentina, and Brazil.
    Senator Rosen. Well, you know, you are speaking of the 
diaspora that is extremely important. So how can we improve 
information sharing with our regional partners to identify and 
disrupt Hezbollah's activity in Latin America?
    Admiral Faller. One of the very positive things that I have 
seen over the last couple of years is the extent to which we 
have increased our information sharing with key partners, 
Brazil and Colombia. We rely on them, they are like-minded 
democracies, to share information so that we understand the 
threat. We have expanded that information sharing significant 
this year. It is key to moving forward and it is built on 
longstanding trust that we have, that is borne out of 
professional military education.
    We have security cooperation programs that work to build 
professional intelligence services. We do this through our 333 
program, and sustaining those programs are very important.
    During the past year we have been able to expand, modestly, 
those programs in cybersecurity, and that will really be 
critical to understanding both the threat that is posed by Iran 
and their state-sponsored terrorist organizations and other 
nation-state actors like China.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I would like to move on and ask 
General VanHerck a little bit about our COVID response and 
support. You have been so terrific. You have deployed Navy 
hospital ships at the start of the pandemic. You have cared for 
coronavirus patients at Army field hospitals. Now, of course, 
President Biden is directing states to open up vaccination 
appointments to all American adults by May 1st.
    So I am curious what your role may be in this new mission. 
How is NORTHCOM generating and deploying forces to support the 
vaccine distribution and administrative mission, and 
specifically, as members of the military and their families get 
vaccinated, and once military installations are covered, do you 
have coordinated plans or have you had preliminary 
conversations with local civil authorities to leverage the 
capacity you have on the bases and refer to local communities 
to get the vaccines deployed?
    General VanHerck. Senator, we work with not only the local 
communities, state authorities, and our local bases to ensure 
that we follow the DOD's published guidelines along with the 
Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as well. I am 
confident going forward that we will continue to provide that 
support. We have worked with the Department. I have put in a 
request for 100 teams, 50 Type 1 teams, the most capable, 
capable of delivering about 6,000 shots per day, and also 50 
Type 2 teams. As far as sourcing those, the Joint Staff works 
with the services and the departments to calculate and come up 
with sourcing solutions. The Secretary approves those and 
allocates them to me, and we work through Federal Emergency 
Management Agency (FEMA) for the actual location and mission 
assignment on how we are going to continue executing President 
Biden's mission to get where he needs to be on 1 July.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator Scott, 
please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman Reed. Admiral Faller, 
thank you for the conversation last week. As we all know, the 
fundamental problem in our hemisphere is Cuba. They are the 
root of all the instability in Latin America. They terrorize 
their own citizens, they steal from their own citizens, and 
they support dictators in Latin America, such as Maduro in 
Venezuela and Ortega in Nicaragua.
    How important is it, in your role, for the Cuban regime to 
not have resources, to do everything we can as a country to 
make sure that the Castro regime does not have the resources to 
terrorize their own citizens and be involved in these other 
countries?
    Admiral Faller. In addition to the nefarious activity you 
cite, Senator, Cuba and Russia and China are actively engaged 
just miles from our home state, and it is concerning as we see 
that relationship going forward. So to the extent to which we 
can prevent those kinds of relationships from developing and 
from Cuba enhancing its capabilities, it is very important. One 
of our assets, one of our real strategic toeholds in that 
effort is our naval station at Guantanamo Bay.
    Senator Scott. Is it important that they do not have 
resources?
    Admiral Faller. I think it is extremely important that we 
prevent the Cubans and the communists from doing what they are 
doing in Venezuela, where they are keeping Maduro in power, and 
where they are undermining. We see them actively undermining 
free and fair elections in democracies across the hemisphere. 
So yes, Senator.
    Senator Scott. What is their involvement in Venezuela now, 
and are they part of provoking Venezuela's aggression against 
Guyana?
    Admiral Faller. Cuba's Praetorian Guard keeps Maduro in 
power. They are there in the thousands. They own the 
intelligence service alongside Russia primarily, and Iran, and 
China to a lesser extent. They are supporting, maintaining 
Maduro's defense systems and security forces, and undoubtedly 
that then gives Maduro the capacity and capability to rattle 
the saber and threaten the neighbors, and also, frankly, allows 
a safe haven for narco traffickers and narco terrorists, which 
is what Venezuela has become. It is hell for its citizens and 
it is heaven for the terrorists.
    Senator Scott. So what can your command do to confront the 
reports of illegal shipping activity out of Venezuela?
    Admiral Faller. We are actively involved with all of our 
interagency partners to track that and learn as much as we can 
about it, and then provide that information to our diplomats 
who can call it out and come up with solutions that support the 
whole-of-government efforts to shift Venezuela to a democracy.
    Senator Scott. Have you or our government through sanctions 
been able to do much to stop the flow of oil from Venezuela to 
Cuba?
    Admiral Faller. The pressure has worked. The Maduro regime 
has been denied resources. But in any of these things they are 
very clever. When you have no regard for rule of law and 
corruption fuels everything you do and you are supported by 
nation-state actors like Russia and China, you can circumvent 
rules and laws, and they have been able to keep the follow up 
just enough to maintain their economy, particularly the 
regime's grip on that economy and its people on life support.
    Senator Scott. Can you talk a little bit about the 
humanitarian crisis, both in Cuba and in Venezuela, as a result 
of the Castro and Maduro regimes?
    Admiral Faller. Well, the United Nations Human Rights 
Report lays it out. The atrocities that the regime has 
committed on the people are beyond compare in this hemisphere, 
and they have created the largest migrant crisis this 
hemisphere has ever seen, some five million migrants that have 
swelled the services, of all the social services. That is why 
we deployed Hospital Ship Comfort twice in a year's period 
prior to the pandemic. It is a credit to Colombia and Brazil 
and other democracies that they have been able to handle it as 
effectively. I commend them.
    Similarly, in Cuba, we have had past migrant crises and we 
have a mission set to prepare with Homeland Security for that. 
We have seen a slight uptick this year in migrants coming out 
of Cuba. We are watching it very closely, and undoubtedly, 
again, it is due to the brutal economic conditions and the 
repression that we see. We study that intensely in our 
intelligence and information-sharing efforts.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Admiral Faller. Thank you, 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Let me recognize 
Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Faller, you 
and I had an extended discussion last week about activity in 
the region as well as some of the push factors contributing to 
migration flows that are exacerbating the challenging situation 
at the southern border. I would like to focus on the strength 
of criminal organizations in the region.
    A recent report by the Center for Strategic and 
International Studies found that the countries of the Northern 
Triangle lose more than 3 percent of their GDP to organized 
crime each year. These TCOs also contribute to outsized 
homicide rates and undermine governance and security in the 
region. The bottom line is they are, in some ways, better 
resourced than state actors, and have proven capable of 
trafficking guns, money, drugs, and people. It is a major 
problem.
    Given these dynamics, do you feel you have the authority 
necessary to conduct operations that will effectively disrupt 
their activity in the long term?
    Admiral Faller. As you mentioned, Senator, they control 
territory. They are well funded. They have a strength of close 
to 200,000 when you look across the region, which is on par 
with all the police and military forces in total. So a powerful 
enemy to host nations' democracies and direct impact on our 
homeland defense here in the United States.
    Our role is appropriately in support, detection, and 
monitoring, which means we find out as much as we can, and 
where we have authorities we pass that off to law enforcement 
to interdict, and then we work at building our host nation 
partners' capacity. We are short in intelligence assets. We 
have less than 1 percent of those assets. We need additional 
capacity to build our partners so that they can take care of 
this problem themselves. We have received about the right 
amount of presence, but it is important we stay on the field.
    An example of that is our Joint Task Force-Bravo, which is 
a small team of about 700 soldiers and airmen and Marines at 
Soto Cano, Honduras, that can support law enforcement with 
lift, with some intelligence, but more importantly can rapidly 
respond. We saw it this past fall with two back-to-back 
hurricanes, major hurricanes, and we saved hundreds of lives 
rapidly. What that does is it builds trust and actually helps 
us build the case for these partnerships in sustainable 
security long term.
    Senator Kelly. Earlier you stressed, and you did again, 
that the 1 percent of ISR funding goes to SOUTHCOM. Is that 
correct?
    Admiral Faller. It is 1 percent of the overall----
    Senator Kelly. Of the overall.
    Admiral Faller.--assets and capabilities, Senator.
    Senator Kelly. But beyond that, if you wanted to ramp up 
the effectiveness of disrupting their activity, what other 
resources would you need?
    Admiral Faller. Senator, we have got to come up with a more 
effective whole-of-government effort in the United States and 
really get at mapping these networks. We are doing that but it 
is nascent. It needs more effort, and then finding the center 
of gravity, what is key to each organization, and then going 
at, disrupting, defeating or deterring that. Most of that is 
law enforcement or judicial or a partner nation effort with 
SOUTHCOM in support. So we play a critical role but it has got 
to be more holistically designed in the U.S. We cannot 
interdict our way out of this.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you, Admiral. General VanHerck, 
you mentioned in your testimony the Pathfinder program as a 
complement to the work done by the Defense Innovation Unit, and 
also the importance of being able to rapidly field capabilities 
of the future. As Chair of the Emerging Threats and 
Capabilities Subcommittee, this is something I have been 
thinking a lot about.
    Are you looking into technologies like artificial 
intelligence to asset in processing the increasingly large 
volumes of data that come from our sensor systems?
    General VanHerck. Senator, absolutely. As a matter of fact, 
Pathfinder does exactly that, uses machine learning and 
additional capabilities. We must go down that path to operate 
in a timely and efficient and effective manner.
    Senator Kelly. Any sense if our adversaries are doing the 
same thing, using these technologies?
    General VanHerck. Absolutely, Senator, especially China. 
They are actively moving forward with artificial intelligence.
    Senator Kelly. Then finally, are there any research gaps 
that you see that you think we should be investing more in?
    General VanHerck. Not specific to research. I would say we 
must go to space sooner, and space-based capabilities that give 
us persistent domain awareness. That is where I would be 
focusing my efforts right now.
    Senator Kelly. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Let me recognize 
Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
gentlemen, for being here.
    General VanHerck, let me start with you, and let me thank 
you on behalf of all Missourians. It is great to see a fellow 
Missourian here, as before, and we are very proud of you and 
your service, so thank you for being here.
    Let's come back to this question of the border. Customs and 
Border Patrol issued a new batch of operational statistics last 
week that showed that CBP had encountered more than 100,000 
persons attempting entry across the southern border in 
February. That is about a 200 percent increase over this time 
last year. They also show that the number of unaccompanied 
minors attempting to cross our border--that is children--has 
doubled since January, and the number of family units has more 
than doubled from January to February.
    Give us a sense of how this surge of migrants is helping or 
hindering the cartels' operations along the border.
    General VanHerck. Senator, I am not aware of necessarily 
how it hinders or helps. I think it is a symptom of the 
transnational criminal organization problem that we actually 
see. As Admiral Faller pointed out, you know, hurricanes, 
transnational criminal organizations, all the murders, 
contribute directly to what we are seeing on the border, which 
includes the migration that you are alluding to.
    Senator Hawley. I think it is today that the Secretary of 
Homeland Security said that we are on pace now for a 20-year 
high in border encounters, a 20-year record, which is pretty 
astounding considering some of the previous surges we have 
seen, for instance in 2014. Is it fair to say that we have got 
a crisis now at the southern border, General?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I will stay out of the politics 
of whether it is a crisis or not. It is absolutely a homeland 
defense issue that I am concerned about. I am concerned because 
it creates opportunities, it creates vulnerabilities, and we 
have to be postured for each of those. The vulnerabilities that 
it creates for us is instability, and it creates instability in 
governance, it creates instabilities in the rule of law, if you 
will, in neighboring countries. Those will be exploited by 
countries such as China, Russia, and Iran. So for me it is a 
Homeland defense and a national security imperative to take a 
look at that.
    Senator Hawley. Yeah, I think you are absolutely right. It 
is also a humanitarian crisis, and I, for one, am not afraid of 
the word ``crisis.'' I cannot understand why this 
administration is afraid of the word ``crisis.'' Given the 
unbelievable humanitarian issues we are seeing at the border 
and record surge that we are on pace for, I think this 
administration's inability to admit that their own policies are 
causing this crisis, and the effect it is having in terms of 
emboldening the cartels, as you are saying--we know that nobody 
crosses that southern border without the permission and indeed 
without the profit of the cartels. Nobody. It is a wholly run 
criminal enterprise on the southern end of the border, and this 
administration's inability to grapple with that and do 
something about it I think is frankly astounding. We are seeing 
it just day on day on day grow worse and worse.
    Let me ask you this, General. We sent billions of dollars 
in security and money, security assistance, to the Mexican 
Government over the past 14 years, yet we are seeing, as you 
just alluded to, escalating violence. Even more drugs headed 
northward. Those drugs make their way into every state of the 
union, including our home state, my home state of Missouri. In 
your assessment, why has our security assistance to Mexico 
fallen so short of its security objectives? I mean, why have 
not we been able to achieve more, considering the prodigious 
sums that we have invested?
    General VanHerck. First, I would talk to Homeland Security 
about the problem. It is a law enforcement issue, much of it 
coming across the border. But I would tell you that the Mexican 
military, we have an incredibly close partnership and they are 
doing incredible things down there.
    With that being said, I think, as Admiral Faller alluded 
to, we need a whole-of-government strategy. You know, the arms 
that are arming these transnational criminal organizations come 
right here from the United States of America and they flow 
south. In addition to that, the money that they are creating is 
being generated by precursors coming from Asia, from China 
businesses and industry, if you will, that flows in there.
    So we have to take a broader approach to get after this, 
which includes a whole-of-government effort and prioritizing 
and putting resources to the problem.
    Senator Hawley. Speaking of China, Admiral, let me come to 
you in just the little bit of time I have got remaining. You 
wrote in your testimony that China is seeking to establish 
global logistics and basing infrastructure in our hemisphere in 
order to project and sustain military power. What kind of 
presence do the Chinese forces maintain in the Western 
Hemisphere today, that we ought to be concerned about?
    Admiral Faller. We have to ask ourselves the question, why 
is China trying to achieve deep-water ports in the Dominican 
Republic, Jamaica, El Salvador, Panama--Panama Canal is a key 
strategic ground--Argentina. They are using economic influence 
and access to set the conditions for the blue-water navy that 
they have built.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. I think we are going to have 
closed session, aren't we, Mr. Chairman?
    Chairman Reed. We are planning that, yes.
    Senator Hawley. Okay. I will have a few more questions for 
you then. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Now let me 
recognize Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for being here today and what you have done for our Homeland 
and our hemisphere. General, it has been 20 years since we have 
had an attack on our Homeland. Thank you for that, and 
everybody at NORTHCOM, the hard work that you have done. I very 
much agree with you, what you said about outpacing our 
competitors. I am proud to say that in Alabama we are working 
to leap ahead in the area of hypersonics. We are working very 
hard on that, and right now the world's largest and fastest 
hypersonic wind tunnel is under construction in Huntsville, and 
I know they are working at a fast pace.
    Admiral, I enjoyed our conversation last week and I enjoyed 
your straight talk. I hope the American people will start 
getting a sense of urgency. You have your hands full in 
SOUTHCOM, no doubt about it. Between transnational criminal 
organizations and Russia and China you are a busy man.
    I do believe, for a moment, that the People's Republic of 
China (PRC)'s plan in our hemisphere are benign, and I hope 
that it will not take a Chinese aircraft carrier sailing 
between Florida and the Bahamas for Americans to wake up to the 
fact that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) wish to dominate 
the world stage. I hope it does not take something like that.
    You know, the work that both of you have done for SOUTHCOM 
and NORTHCOM for our Nation is incredible, important to 
maintaining our strategic military objectives. Many of the 
items for both of you in the areas of responsibility strongly 
impact my home state of Alabama.
    Admiral, following the 2018 National Defense Strategy is 
something I personally believe in a good way to position our 
forces to thinking towards the future. Can you explain how 
SOUTHCOM is important to this strategy, and specifically, how 
would you describe China's strategic objectives in a 5- or 10-
year timeline?
    Admiral Faller. Well, I think China seeks economic 
dominance globally, and their strategic objective is to be the 
dominant global power, unquestionably, and they will do that in 
whatever way possible to ensure they have the preeminence of 
the Communist Party.
    In this hemisphere it is across all fronts. It is not just 
economics. Typically we think about that and we have this 
fallacy that it is just economics. In the military realm, they 
have recognized that partners in this hemisphere cannot afford 
a lot of equipment, so they have upped the game in gifts. When 
they do offer military equipment it is often through corrupt 
deals that we cannot compete with.
    They have replicated our professional military education. 
They have ubiquitous IT solutions. They have created 
engineering and cyber scholarships for military personnel that 
goes beyond the kind of education and training that we offer in 
our IMET programs. They have expanded their defense attache 
presence. They have at least turned a blind eye to a range of 
illegal activity, unregulated fishing, unreported fishing, 
illegal mining and logging. All this is done in an environment 
fueled by corruption, with no regard, or little regard for 
human rights, in trying to write their version of the rules of 
the game.
    We have got to stay on the field to compete. We do that 
well. No one is better than the United States military, 
Department of Defense. But we have got to work hard and 
tirelessly, with a sense of urgency that you mentioned, to stay 
number one in the game and to be the best.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. General, in regards to our 
southern border security we hear all the negatives. What do you 
think has improved the most in the last four years, and then 
what worries you most looking forward at the southern border?
    General VanHerck. I think the coordination between the 
Department and the interagency with regards to since 2018, has 
been probably the biggest improvement. With regards to what 
worries me most, it is about having domain awareness and the 
opportunities and vulnerabilities that I already talked about, 
in our own Western Hemisphere, for state actors such as China, 
Russia, or Iran, in our own neighborhood, due to instability, 
due to ungoverned areas and spaces. So I am significantly 
concerned about what is going on right here in our own 
hemisphere and neighborhood.
    Senator Tuberville. Do you think we need a wall?
    General VanHerck. I will stay out of the politics of a 
wall. Border security----
    Senator Tuberville. Not politics. Do you think we need one?
    General VanHerck. Border security is national security. We 
need to ensure that we have policies in place, laws are 
enforced to ensure that homeland defense does not become a more 
strategic issue from the borders.
    Senator Tuberville. Yeah. One thing I noticed coaching for 
40 years and being in education is just the influx of drugs. 
You know, just take away everybody coming across the border, it 
is just the influx of drugs are killing our kids. We are losing 
60,000 a year to overdose. I mean, that right there should be 
just an alarm that we have got to have something different.
    General VanHerck. Senator, I agree with you. Actually, I 
believe the number this past year was approximately 80,000. 
That is unsatisfactory, and we have to get after that, and that 
is a symptom of that broader problem that I talked about, 
transnational criminal organizations, that we can apply 
priority and resources to, to get after it.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Now let me 
recognize Senator Blackburn via Webex.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We so 
appreciate having the hearing today and getting the update, and 
Admiral Faller, thank you for the time that you spent with me 
on the phone last week.
    General VanHerck, I want to go back to your statement on 
Pathfinder, the prototype Pathfinder data analytics project. 
This is the kind of project that I think attacks two primary 
concerns with DOD data streams. One is the stovepiping and the 
other is the need for modernization, and many times I sound 
like a broken record, if you will, by talking about what has 
happened with DOD through the years as things have become so 
stovepiped, and the need for this modernization, because 
information is power. We all know that. But you have to be able 
to analyze to share and to make actionable that data.
    So my question for you is, how could the Pentagon better 
utilize some of these emerging technologies such as artificial 
intelligence, such as the data that we are getting via ISR, and 
the AI that is used by Pathfinder to really make that 
information accessible, sharable across platforms and 
divisions, and actionable when you are looking at how you 
implement plans for the future, how you change plans based on 
the information that you are getting?
    General VanHerck. Senator, first I would tell you that I am 
encouraged by the joint warfighting concept, which also has a 
supplement for information advantage that will help us move 
down this.
    As far as utilizing the data, I agree, it is a strategic 
asset, if you will, data. We can utilize it to not only 
dominate in conflict but to create deterrence day to day. So, 
for example, as an operational commander, this data that is 
available to me, if I utilize it, with applying artificial 
intelligence and machine learning, and then disseminate it to 
key decision-makers, I am able to position forces ahead of a 
competitor or adversary's actions, which creates deterrence. It 
is deterrence by denial.
    But we must go faster in the Department. Thirty years ago, 
the Department led the way with innovations. Today, I think 
that paradigm has flip-flopped to where much of industry and 
Silicon Valley is leading the way forward, especially with 
regard to data, and so we need to take a look at our 
acquisition processes, our modernization processes, and 
potentially flip the paradigm to stay competitive.
    Senator Blackburn. Do you feel like that the Pentagon 
itself is flexible and agile enough to make these changes, 
utilize this data, make a change in a game plan immediately, 
and apply what they are learning from that intel?
    General VanHerck. I believe that the Pentagon has proven, 
over history, to be incredibly successful in adapting when we 
need to. It has not always been as fast, and that is one of the 
reasons I talk about it. We have to have some culture change.
    I would also tell you this may require some looks at 
policy. It may even require some looks at law, to utilize data 
differently as we go forward. What we do not want to do is 
create capabilities that we can utilize, and the policies that 
we have and the laws that we have do not allow us to be 
successful with the data and the information that is available.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you for that. I may come back to 
you for some specifics.
    Admiral Faller, we have talked a lot about China this 
morning and the transnational organizations. But as you look at 
dealing with China, whether it is through fentanyl and drugs or 
Belt and Road or great power competition, what do you not have 
access to in SOUTHCOM that you need?
    Admiral Faller. As we have discussed, China is a global 
threat and we have got to address that challenge holistically 
across the United States Government. In the SOUTHCOM AOR we 
have to be appropriately postured, so we need the right 
footprint of forces, working with our embassies and our 
interagency team to stay engage with our partners. So 
additional locations for presence, not permanent, but access is 
really critical moving forward.
    Senator Blackburn. So it is the teamwork concept with our 
allies. Correct?
    Admiral Faller. Correct, Senator.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Thank you all for that. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator, very much, and 
gentlemen, thank you for your testimony and your service to the 
Nation. Let me remind my colleagues that upon adjournment we 
will immediately move to SVC-217 for a classified briefing by 
Admiral Faller about increasing Chinese influence in the 
SOUTHCOM area. There also is a vote scheduled for noon, so we 
will accomplish both. I will see you shortly over there, 
Admiral Faller, and General, thank you for your distinguished 
service at NORTHCOM.
    No further business before the Committee, I will adjourn.
    [Whereupon, at 11:58 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                    women, peace and security (wps)
    1. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, as your command continues the 
promotion of gender inclusion with allies and partner nations, can you 
share the overall impact you have witnessed across the region?
    Admiral Faller. As we have started holding gender-focused 
roundtables and events in Colombia, Honduras, and El Salvador, and 
numerous other countries, leaders from across the region have seen how 
powerful it is to integrate gender perspectives and are requesting that 
we collaborate and assist them with gender integration. We have seen 
more women fulfilling key roles and positions and they have achieved 
greater presence in decision-making spaces as a result. Notably, we 
have seen more female International Military Education and Training 
(IMET) graduates taking leadership roles within their countries.

    2. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, how has implementation of the 
program contributed to the advancement of U.S. Southern Command's 
(SOUTHCOM) long term mission within the region?
    Admiral Faller. Part of our mission within the region is to work 
with our partner nations to build professional military and security 
forces that are legitimate in the eyes of their populations. This 
includes fostering respect for human rights, the rule of law, and the 
importance of integrating all perspectives--to include NCOs and women. 
A legitimate and professional force will be resilient to any threats it 
faces--transnational criminal organizations, corruption, violence, and 
meddling from external state and non-state actors.

    3. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, what gender programs have you 
seen be successful, and what has been learned from those successes?
    Admiral Faller. In addition to creating standalone WPS events, 
SOUTHCOM demonstrates its commitment to WPS by ensuring it is part of 
every key leader engagement in the region. We seek ways to collaborate 
with, and assist, partners in their own efforts to advance WPS, such as 
our support to Colombia as they work to meet NATO WPS standards.
    One key success that stands out is our new ``Breaking Barriers'' 
podcast, hosted by our Civilian Deputy to the Commander, Ambassador 
Jean Manes. The purpose of this podcast is to amplify WPS principles 
and recognize women leaders in defense and security forces across our 
Hemisphere. The most senior woman in the Trinidad and Tobago Defense 
Force, Lieutenant Colonel Jozette McLean was the first guest featured 
on the podcast. In addition to the regional partners, SOUTHCOM has 
strengthened academic partnerships as well. In collaboration with the 
William J. Perry Center, SOUTHCOM published a book called ``Twenty 
Years, Twenty Stories: Women, Peace, and Security in the Western 
Hemisphere,'' which included essays from 25 authors from 13 countries 
in our hemisphere. Themes from the book included cyber security, 
peacekeeping, and humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. I have 
personally distributed this book to Ministers and Chiefs of Defense 
across the region. SOUTHCOM uses all social media platforms to 
regularly highlight the achievements and contributions of women across 
the Western Hemisphere, part of the overall effort to ``make the 
invisible, visible.'' We are also working toward increasing the number 
of women participating in the IMET program and in our multilateral 
exercises.
    Breaking Barriers Podcast: https://www.southcom.mil/Lines-of-
Effort/Strengthen-Partnerships/SOUTHCOMs-Women-Peace-and-Security-WPS-
Program/?audioid=6 5826

    4. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller and General VanHerck, WPS is 
intended to not only foster foreign and defense policies that proscribe 
the incorporation of women for partner countries, but it is also 
designed to ensure that our own systems, chains of command and 
decision-making processes include gender-oriented considerations. The 
2021 defense appropriations act included funding for full-time gender 
advisors across the combatant commands (COCOM). Can you discuss how you 
are utilizing those funds?
    Admiral Faller. SOUTHCOM elevated this program and made it a 
strategic priority under the leadership of AMB Jean Manes, Civilian 
Deputy to the Commander. We allocated a field grade officer to lead the 
program and a contractor, who is a lawyer, to assist with its 
implementation.
    SOUTHCOM has three WPS priorities for fiscal year 2021: 1) Train 
our force; 2) Increase women participation in IMET; and 3) Integrate 
WPS into exercises. For example, in January 2021, WPS was injected into 
Exercise MERCURY conducted by JTF-Bravo and the Panamanian National 
Border Service. WPS is also being integrated into exercises TRADEWINDS 
and UNITAS, hosted by Guyana and Peru, respectively.
    SOUTHCOM has received $250,000 for fiscal year 2021. This funding 
is directed to pay for one full-time gender advisor as well as the 
development of training and strategic messaging initiatives.
    General VanHerck. Funding for Women, Peace, and Security (WPS) in 
fiscal year 2021 enabled USNORTHCOM to hire a full-time contract WPS 
subject matter expert, while also supporting the training of a network 
of military and civilian gender advisors who are responsible for 
Command implementation of the WPS Act and DOD WPS Strategic Framework 
and Implementation Plan. In addition to these efforts, USNORTHCOM 
utilized fiscal year 2021 WPS funds to conduct a WPS-focused analysis 
of USNORTHCOM mission sets, sponsor WPS events tied to USNORTHCOM 
missions, promote training and awareness regarding how WPS informed the 
USNORTHCOM responses to COVID-19, and develop WPS training content in 
collaboration with our partners in Canada and Mexico. USNORTHCOM is 
also proud to have partnered with eCornell University and USSTRATCOM on 
training that resulted in over 20 military and civilian personnel 
receiving a certificate in Gender and Women in Leadership. Finally, the 
funding is providing the opportunity for USNORTHCOM to begin WPS data 
collection and reporting.

    5. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck, how has U.S. Northern Command 
(NORTHCOM) incorporated gender advisors into the structure of decision-
making and the chain of command?
    General VanHerck. In December 2020, I signed WPS implementation 
guidance for USNORTHCOM that established a gender network of 20+ 
formally appointed representatives from USNORTHCOM directorates and 
component commands. These advisors, called Gender Focal Points, also 
include a NORAD volunteer, and are trained and empowered to advance 
implementation of WPS principles and approaches in all areas and 
functions. In March 2021, USNORTHCOM's WPS leadership team, with 
support of the Joint Staff, delivered the Level 100 Operationalizing 
WPS course throughout our USNORTHCOM WPS network. This network convenes 
monthly to discuss initiatives, identify opportunities and 
requirements, and also to track and implement WPS guidance; it provides 
progress reports to me semi-annually.
    counter-narcotics and transnational criminal organizations (tco)
    6. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller and General VanHerck, given the 
scope and persistent nature of the drug trafficking threat, how are 
your combatant commands prioritizing its limited enforcement resources 
to effectively target the trafficking activity that may be most 
detrimental to U.S. interests?
    Admiral Faller. SOUTHCOM works hard to make sure that 1+1=3. This 
means we look for innovative approaches to acquire information and 
intelligence on transnational criminal organization (TCO) activities, 
applying advanced analytics, artificial intelligence and machine 
learning techniques. We then share that information as quickly as 
possible with our strong and willing partners--both U.S. Law 
Enforcement Agencies and partner nations--to target the greatest 
threats. We also focus our limited assets in areas where the 
preponderance of drugs are flowing toward the US, currently the Eastern 
Pacific. We know that we will never be able to interdict our way out of 
the drug crisis, so we also focus on understanding the TCOs themselves 
so we may work with law enforcement to dismantle the organizations that 
will traffic in any commodity to turn a profit at the expense of 
American lives.
    General VanHerck. In a support role to federal partners, USNORTHCOM 
prioritizes resources based on law enforcement partner requests and 
assessments of significant threats. At this time, Mexican cartels are 
increasingly focused on trafficking synthetic drugs such as fentanyl 
that are fueling record numbers of drug overdoses in the United States. 
In response, I directed our Joint Task Force North and Special 
Operations Command North to support law enforcement and regional 
partners by identifying new approaches, in coordination with law 
enforcement, to reduce the trafficking of illicit synthetic drugs. To 
fully get after the resourcing process, I believe the United States 
needs a whole-of-government strategy with directed prioritization to 
enable optimum resource application of limited resources.

    7. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller and General VanHerck, can you 
discuss how your combatant command coordinates with the Department of 
Homeland Security (DHS), civil law enforcement, State governments and 
other Federal Agencies to respond to an evolving drug threat that 
requires aggressive enforcement to interdict illicit narcotics and root 
out TCOs?
    Admiral Faller. USSOUTHCOM works very closely with the interagency 
on the counternarcotic mission, as this is a true team effort. DHS, and 
specifically the US Coast Guard (USCG), working with Joint Interagency 
Task Force-South (JIATF-S), is our primary law enforcement partner for 
drug interdictions at sea. The USCG regularly provides USSOUTHCOM with 
surface and air assets for this mission, with their medium endurance 
and fast response cutters being critical to this fight. In return, 
USSOUTHCOM provides regular support to USCG movements and Panama Canal 
transits through designated authorities. We have increased our support 
to US and partner nation law enforcement by sharing information and 
intelligence to help develop law enforcement target packages aimed at 
dismantling the TCOs and their leadership. We supported the State 
Department Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement (INL) 
Affairs with the movement of 13 helicopters to Colombia and Peru, moved 
80 MTs of cocaine from Costa Rica to a destruction site in Florida in 
support of the Drug Enforcement Agency, airlifted four INL interdiction 
boats for delivery to Guatemala, and moved the Customs and Boarder 
Protection Unmanned Aircraft System into Panama to support regional 
counter narcotics, detection and monitoring efforts. We also continue 
to focus on efforts to assess the financial underpinnings of national 
security threats in the region and have deepened our counter threat 
finance support with the Department of Treasury Office of Foreign 
Assets Control (OFAC) with intelligence analysis as they work to impose 
sanctions on drug kingpins.
    While we must continue to prevent as many drugs from entering our 
Homeland as possible, we must also look toward a whole-of-society 
approach to address this scourge. For our part, USSOUTHCOM can directly 
impact the supply side by continuing to work with our partners to stop 
the TCOs who will traffic in any commodity to turn a profit. It's not 
just about stopping the flow of drugs, we must go after their logistics 
chains, their profits, and all sources of their power.
    General VanHerck. At the national level, I engage with my DHS and 
law enforcement (LE) counterparts through regular personal meetings and 
through semi-annual meetings of The Interdiction Committee (TIC). This 
senior interagency forum provides opportunities to discuss and resolve 
issues related to drug interdiction efforts from an interdepartmental 
perspective. At the Command level, USNORTHCOM hosts liaison officers 
(LNOs) at USNORTHCOM headquarters and also embeds LNOs across the 
interagency community. These open lines of communication assure my team 
understands DHS and LE requirements, and that DHS and LE in turn fully 
understand the support UNORTHCOM can provide. It is only through a 
whole-of-government approach that identifies transnational criminal 
organizations (TCOs) as a priority and National Security imperative 
that the United States can successfully counter TCOs and their illicit 
activities.

    8. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller and General VanHerck, despite 
decades of interdiction and diligent enforcement efforts by military 
forces and Federal Agencies, the drug threat has gotten worse not 
better. Do you believe we need any new and innovative capabilities and 
strategies to address this problem?
    Admiral Faller. As I stated earlier, we will never interdict our 
way out of the drug crisis. TCOs are constantly innovating and changing 
their tactics to avoid disruption. Theirs is a lucrative business with 
almost limitless resources. TCOs make approximately $90 billion a year 
so we must continue to innovate--looking for non-traditional ways to 
crush their money. Capabilities like our operation Mortal Mint 
(artificial intelligence/machine learning program for foreign adversary 
financial targeting) that focuses on following the money, Asymmetric 
Target Acquisition Center that looks to harness publicly available 
foreign information and Technical Network Analytics Cell that uses data 
analytics for actionable intelligence are low-cost, high-return 
activities in which we should be investing more.
    General VanHerck. Yes. I believe countering transnational criminal 
organization (TCO) activities and their influence is a national 
security imperative because of the impact on U.S. citizens and the 
pressures they create in partner nations, as well as the opportunities 
they create for exploitation by our strategic competitors. TCOs 
continually adapt their tactics, techniques, and procedures, which 
undermine U.S. Government and USNORTHCOM efforts to degrade them, and I 
believe the U.S. Government must become more agile and adaptable to 
meet this challenge. Existing tools and applied resources are not 
enough, and it is increasingly necessary to leverage emerging 
technologies and non-traditional partners, such as the U.S. Postal 
Inspections Service to track and identify illicit drug shipments, as 
well as to leverage local law enforcement interdiction of precursor 
materials or supplies originating in the United States. We must have 
unity of effort across defense, law enforcement, and policy 
organizations to effectively address the TCO threat to the Homeland.
    I also believe the United States needs a whole-of-government 
strategy with directed prioritization to enable optimum resource 
application of limited resources. This will enable the Federal 
Government to go after the TCOs and their network enablers that are the 
true source of the problem, rather than a focus on drugs, human 
trafficking, and migration challenges that are just symptoms.

    9. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck, similarly, do you think there 
is an opportunity to partner more closely with the Federal Bureau of 
Investigation and the Department of Justice broadly to track the money 
that funds these operations?
    General VanHerck. Yes. Closer partnerships with the FBI and other 
federal law enforcement agencies are critical to defending our 
Homeland, but that is only part of the answer. I view countering 
transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) from a homeland defense 
perspective and also as a national security imperative, and I believe a 
whole-of-government strategy addressing illicit TCO funds and the TCO 
activities generating those funds is absolutely essential. This effort 
requires a single lead organization that can bring the whole-of-
government together to prioritize and manage requisite resources to 
tackle Transnational Organized Crime, as USNORTHCOM and the Department 
of Defense in a support role cannot do this alone. I am encouraged by 
the plan to establish the U.S. Council on Transnational Organized Crime 
(USCTOC) to streamline and align law enforcement requests with 
available DOD support. USCTOC, once formalized, could provide a whole-
of-government approach to denying criminal organizations the proceeds 
of their illicit activities while simultaneously helping to counter 
their activities and influence.

    10. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, what are some of the 
capabilities or authorities that you think would allow your combatant 
command in partnership with DHS and others to stem the flow of illicit 
narcotics?
    Admiral Faller. SOUTHCOM is pursuing non-traditional approaches to 
go after TCOs' money and logistics. Working closely with our partners 
in this hemisphere is also critical to stemming the flow of illicit 
narcotics--both to prevent them from ever beginning the journey north, 
as well as to stop them once they're already on the high seas. SOUTHCOM 
leverages the security cooperation program to increase the capacity of 
our partner nations to operate alongside us and counter our shared 
threats. Our significant security cooperation initiatives focus on 
developing critical functional areas that include improving maritime 
domain awareness and information sharing; increasing interoperability 
between partner nations and U.S. Forces, and building institutional 
capacity through professional military education. Programs like those 
commonly referred to as section 333 are key to increasing our partners' 
capacity and capability, making them force multipliers in our 
counternarcotic efforts and integrating them seamlessly into our 
operations. As an example of how we can successfully integrate our 
partners into our operations, at the end of March, a United States 
maritime patrol aircraft detected a suspect vessel 15 nautical miles 
from the Costa Rican and Panamanian border. JIATF-S notified the Costa 
Rican and Panamanian Coast Guard, who then launched maritime vessels in 
pursuit. Panamanian forces intercepted the vessel with Costa Rican 
support. Panama seized 900 kgs of cocaine and detained 3 persons.
    While one might expect to see a decrease in partner nation 
participation in counternarcotic operations due to increased domestic 
demands created by COVID-19, our partners have stayed in the drug fight 
with us. The modest increase in DOD resources and assets during our 
enhanced CN operations last year demonstrated US leadership in the 
region and our partners responded to that by increasing their presence 
as well. Key partners like Colombia, Costa Rica, Panama, Guatemala, El 
Salvador, and others have been involved in 60% of drug disruptions 
during the operation.
    In order to ensure our trusted partners in the region are able to 
continue to support to our enduring Counter Transnational Criminal 
Operation, I believe we will need to provide additional economic 
support to those countries that are still willing to conduct counter-
narcotics operations while experiencing economic pressures imposed by 
COVID-19. In order to stay on pace with China and other authoritarian 
regimes who are increasing their investments in the region, we will 
look to strengthen our already solid relationships by providing 
resources to the security sectors, enabling them to conduct all-domain 
operations with the equipment (Boston Whalers, Maritime Patrol 
Aircraft, Midnight Express boats, helicopters) that have been donated 
or procured through the United States Foreign Military Finance system.
                           russian influence:
    11. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, Russia received a positive 
review of their vaccine by Britain's leading medical journal, ``The 
Lancet'' and Russia is a provider of COVID-19 ``SPUTNIK V'' vaccines to 
Latin America. Six countries across the region--Argentina, Bolivia, 
Mexico, Nicaragua, Paraguay, and Venezuela--have authorized use of the 
Sputnik V vaccine and others are considering authorization requests. 
What consequences does this have as we approach a post-pandemic world, 
and how does it impact our overall influence in the region?
    Admiral Faller. We are rightly focused on getting our own 
population vaccinated to the greatest extent possible. However, once we 
offer all Americans the vaccine, we, too, should offer our partners 
help, because it's the right thing to do. Countries like Russia and 
China offer vaccines to gain advantage. Since our partners are 
desperate to protect their populations against COVID, they will turn to 
Russia and China for help and perhaps become beholden to them once the 
pandemic is behind us. If we can provide vaccines, we can prevent 
Russia and China from gaining undue influence here in our hemisphere. 
This is about being a good neighbor.

    12. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck, you stated that, ``Russia 
presents a persistent, proximate threat to the United States and Canada 
and remains the most acute challenge to our Homeland defense mission.'' 
I am in agreement with that statement. You also shared that, ``Last 
year, NORAD responded to more Russian military flights off the coast of 
Alaska than we've seen in any year since the end of the Cold War.'' Are 
we postured with the necessary capabilities to anticipate and 
effectively defend against Russian hostilities?
    General VanHerck. I am concerned about my ability to defend the 
Homeland as our competitors continue to develop capabilities to hold 
the Homeland at risk. Specifically, during crisis or conflict, 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD will require significant additional capabilities 
to defend North America and our Homeland. Many of these capabilities 
are the same as those that would be sought out by other combatant 
commanders for operations overseas, creating an internal competition 
for resources within the Department. Additionally, as Russian and other 
competitors' capabilities grow, it will be increasingly important to 
establish global all-domain awareness and increase our sustainable 
presence in the Arctic. These capabilities will allow us to achieve 
information dominance and decision superiority to provide leaders at 
all levels with the options, time and space necessary to deter 
competitors in competition, de-escalate in crisis, and if necessary, 
defeat in conflict.

    13. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck, have our defensive 
capabilities kept pace with the threat? If not, what are the primary 
concerns with our legacy warning and assessment systems and defensive 
capabilities?
    General VanHerck. No. The Department's warning, assessment, and 
conventional defense systems have not kept pace with the threat. In 
particular, legacy systems are challenged by competitor advancements in 
systems designed to avoid detection, including low radar cross section, 
long-range cruise missiles and bombers, and a new generation of very 
quiet submarines. While nuclear deterrence remains the cornerstone of 
homeland defense, the challenges posed by competitor conventional 
advances have created a growing gap between U.S. nuclear and 
conventional deterrent capabilities that could be exploited by our 
competitors to hold the Homeland at risk below the threshold of nuclear 
war.
    Investments in persistent homeland defense and deterrent 
capabilities are needed to close the gap between the United States' 
nuclear and conventional capabilities, which will force competitors to 
question the efficacy of their strategy, and ultimately to change their 
calculus. DOD homeland defense investments must begin with improving 
domain awareness sensors in the approaches to North America from below 
the surface of the ocean to space, and in the cyber domain.
    Investments must then continue with development of artificial 
intelligence networks enabled by machine learning to fuse data from 
military, intelligence, partner nation, and commercial sources in order 
to create information dominance and provide awareness of competitor 
intent and action much sooner than today. Through all-domain awareness 
and information dominance, military commanders and senior civilian 
decision makers will gain decision space and the ability to employ a 
greater range of options to deter in competition, de-escalate in 
crisis, and deny and defeat in conflict.
    While USNORTHCOM and NORAD are responsible for defending certain 
non-DOD assets and infrastructure in the United States, designating and 
prioritizing potential targets that must be defended with kinetic 
systems must be determined through an interagency process that is not 
solely a DOD responsibility. To ensure that our commands' defensive 
planning accurately reflects national priorities, USNORTHCOM and NORAD 
have requested Department policy guidance and are seeking unity of 
effort within the interagency regarding vulnerable critical assets. The 
commands are working to ensure that those defensive requirements are 
appropriately resourced to ensure continuity of operations and a 
deterrent effect.
                       north warning radar system
    14. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck, during your confirmation 
hearing last July we discussed the importance of new technologies that 
can improve our military's ability to operate in cold weather 
environments. A few years ago, I had the opportunity to visit with then 
NORTHCOM commander General Lori Robinson in Colorado and I was briefed 
on the North Warning System. I was pleased that section 1651 of the 
Fiscal Year 2021 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) requires a 
report to Congress that includes an assessment of the North Warning 
System, including the operational integrity of its infrastructure and 
of its current technology compared with technology deemed necessary, as 
well as a plan for mitigating vulnerabilities and modernizing the 
capabilities of the North Warning System. Can you speak to the 
importance of the North Warning System in the defense of the United 
States and the need to develop modernization plans outlined in the 
report required by the NDAA?
    General VanHerck. NORAD is the United States and Canadian bi-
national command charged with the missions of aerospace warning, 
aerospace control, and maritime warning for North America. These 
missions require air and maritime domain awareness to detect and track 
potential air and maritime threats, including Russian long-range 
bombers and cruise missiles. NORAD's legacy North Warning System 
provides radar coverage of the northern approaches to North America in 
support of aerospace warning and aerospace control missions. However, 
the current architecture is a Cold War-era design with radars that are 
limited to line-of-sight range coverage with minimal capability to 
detect or track small radar cross section, low-altitude, long-range 
maneuverable weapons and their associated delivery platforms.
    A modernization plan for all approaches to North America is 
critical to achieve all-domain awareness against the advanced threats 
we face today. NORAD is aggressively working within the DOD, along with 
Canada and other partners, to assess and identify new capabilities to 
provide domain awareness. Capabilities include over-the-horizon-radars 
that may complement terrestrial, airborne, and space-based technologies 
to improve early warning capabilities against current and future 
threats. NORAD looks forward to continuing efforts to achieve the 
modernization required in support of NORAD missions.

    15. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck, can you discus the need to 
utilize new technologies that can operate more efficiently and cost 
effectively in cold environments, such as new composite radomes, which 
are protective covers that house the actual radars?
    General VanHerck. NORAD requires continuous domain awareness in 
support of our aerospace warning, aerospace control, and maritime 
warning missions. The current North Warning System utilizes radar 
surveillance and has radomes designed to withstand harsh climates that 
are regularly inspected and evaluated for integrity and necessary 
repairs to meet mission requirements. Cold environments provide unique 
radome challenges and NORAD strongly supports ongoing industry efforts 
to develop new compounds for increased sustainability and resiliency of 
legacy North Warning System radars and for the development of future 
capabilities.
                countering russian and china influence:
    16. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, your maps of Russian and 
Chinese influence in Latin America asserts that Moscow is executing 
military training assistance, port calls, strategic operations and 
engagements with head of states in regional countries. Is United States 
influence across the Latin American region increasing or declining in 
comparison to previous years, in particular prior to COVID-19?
    Admiral Faller. Although the United States still maintains a 
stronger relationship with most nations in the region than China and 
Russia, some metrics show US influence waning. For example, US trade 
with the region declined from a high point of 354 billion in 2012 to 
$270 billion in 2019. Conversely, trade between China and Latin America 
was up from $188 billion in 2015 to $254 billion in 2019. Overall, I 
assess our strategic advantage and influence in this region is eroding.

    17. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, what strategic actions are 
being taken to not only deter Russian and Chinese influence across the 
region, but also enhance United States influence?
    Admiral Faller. United States leadership, presence, and time are 
absolutely critical in countering Russian and Chinese influence and 
strengthening our own relationships in the region. I have personally 
been engaging with regional leaders, emphasizing the risk of dealing 
with countries who do not share like values and principles. To maintain 
connectivity in the COVID environment, our Command has been resourceful 
using methods commonly available such as video teleconferencing and 
even instant messaging to reinforce our regional relationships. Now 
that vaccinations are becoming more common and testing is readily 
available, I've traveled more in the AOR visiting partners and seeing 
for myself the positive impact we are having. SOUTHCOM has used the 
Humanitarian Assistance Program to provide donations to help fill 
critically needed shortages with PPE, ventilators and field hospitals 
at the speed of relevance to our partners. To date, we have executed 
498 projects, in 28 countries, totaling $72 million. This is saving 
lives and winning hearts and minds.
    SOUTHCOM's joint exercise program enables the U.S. to maintain 
access, presence, and influence in the region, not just during the 
execution of these events but throughout the entire planning process 
that spans 12 to 18 months. Our exercises are critical in building 
readiness, interoperability, domain awareness, and enhance our ability 
to share information and intelligence with our partners. Over the last 
6 months we have been able to demonstrate that we can operate in a 
COVID environment through the execution of our UNITAS, CENTAM GUARDIAN, 
and RESOLUTE SENTINEL exercises. The commitment to planning and 
executing in this challenging environment is a testament to the resolve 
and resiliency of the U.S. and our partners. Over the next few months 
we plan to fully execute our remaining exercises to include TRADEWINDS, 
PANAMAX, FUERZAS COMANDO, FUSED RESPONSE, and second UNITAS exercise. 
These events will train thousands of United States, Partner Nation 
forces and regional organizations sending a strategic message to Russia 
and China that we stand ready with our partners even during the most 
difficult of times.

    18. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Faller, please provide an updated map 
of United States influence in Latin America noting humanitarian 
assistance, military training assistance, medical diplomacy, WPS 
Engagement, port calls and visits to head of state.
    Admiral Faller. Below is an updated map of U.S. influence focused 
on recent humanitarian assistance to the region to include COVID 
response; military education and training; equipment sales and 
transfers; and women, peace, and security engagements. Because port 
calls can many times involve minimal engagement with the host nation, 
we have included information on assistance provided by hospital ships, 
to include the USNS Comfort. These naval deployments have made a 
significant impact in the nations visited. We have also include 
security agreements as an indication of the level of cooperation and 
partnership with the nations of this hemisphere.

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           Questions Submitted by Senator Richard Blumenthal

                    DOD ROLE AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER

    19. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, why do we still 
have active duty military personnel and National Guardsmen 
deployed to our Southern Border?
    General VanHerck. DOD personnel are deployed to the 
southwest border in fiscal year 2021 in response to a request 
from the Secretary of Homeland Security that was subsequently 
approved by Secretary of Defense authorization for up to 4,000 
total DOD personnel on the border. All are currently National 
Guard members in title 10 status providing support to the 
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S Customs and 
Border Protection's (CBP) homeland security mission, enabling 
DHS and CBP personnel to focus efforts on law enforcement.

    20. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, what is the 
criteria for withdrawal of troops from the border?
    General VanHerck. I defer to the Secretary of Defense 
regarding criteria for ending the current title 10 DOD mission 
on the southwest border.

    21. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, what feedback are 
you getting from subordinate Commanders on the impact of border 
deployments on mission readiness and concurrent deployment 
commitments?
    General VanHerck. Service assessments indicate a slight 
reduction in unit readiness at the tactical level. This is 
likely due to individual members of some units operating below 
unit level across a large geographic area, whereas previously 
most units were able to deploy together. Unfortunately, the 
unique requirements for southwest border support somewhat limit 
the opportunity for units to operate together and conduct 
recurring training on unit-level mission essential tasks.

                           FOREIGN INFLUENCE

    22. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Faller and General 
VanHerck, in both of your testimonies, you note that China and 
Russia are increasingly competing with the United States for 
influence in your areas of operation. Do you believe military 
partnership programs can be a cost-effective tool to counter 
the spread of Russian and Chinese ideology and influence?
    Admiral Faller. I absolutely do believe military 
partnership programs can be a cost-effective tool to counter 
Russian and Chinese in the region. I believe that the best way 
to counter Chinese and Russian influence is to always model 
what ``right'' looks like and strive to be a good partner. That 
means working with partner nation military and security forces 
to build their institutional capacity and resilience against 
all threats, to include external malign influence. At 
USSOUTHCOM, we strive to be the partner of choice (or trusted 
partner) for the nations of the Western Hemisphere. Security 
cooperation and assistance programs are our main battery in 
that effort. Programs like those commonly referred to as 
section 333 aimed at building partner nation capacity enable us 
to train and equip our partners to counter regional and 
external threats, to include cyber and disinformation threats 
that are increasingly becoming a concern for our partners, 
especially those with upcoming elections. International 
Military Education and Training (IMET) is also a critical 
program for building and strengthening long-term military 
partnerships. When a foreign officer or NCO attends a U.S. 
school, they learn more than just military strategy; they learn 
our democratic values and take that back to their countries. 
These programs are all low-cost, high-return tools that 
strengthen our partners' democratic institutions and ability to 
counter malign influence and ideology.
    General VanHerck. Yes. I believe effective military 
partnership programs are a low-cost and highly effective means 
to counter the growing influence of global competitors. I 
regularly engage with the military leadership of Canada, Mexico 
and The Bahamas to advance shared military objectives. Our 
commands also conduct military exercises with allies and 
partners in the USNORTHCOM area of responsibility and NORAD 
area of operations to enhance interoperability, hone common 
operational skills, and send a strong signal to our competitors 
regarding the strength and durability of the relationships we 
have with our closest neighbors.
    The United States Professional Military Education (PME) 
program is another effective tool for countering Russian and 
Chinese ideology and influence in the region by integrating 
future senior international leaders into United States Service 
war colleges, staff colleges, and senior enlisted courses. Most 
courses run for an entire academic year, thus creating lasting 
friendships between future senior military leaders and 
fostering greater mutual understanding of participating 
countries and cultures. International PME programs also permit 
our partners to bring their families to the United States, 
where they often form strong bonds with both military families 
and within the local community. These programs pay lasting 
dividends and allow us to demonstrate our values, 
professionalism, and commitment to our allies and partners.

    23. Senator Blumenthal. Admiral Faller and General 
VanHerck, what can Congress do to support your efforts to 
compete with Russia and China in the realm of military exchange 
and education programs?
    Admiral Faller. Security cooperation and assistance 
programs truly are the key to building military partnerships 
and strengthening our partners against external influence. 
Increasing support to these programs in the Western 
Hemisphere--the front line of competition--would be critical to 
preserving our competitive advantage. A little goes a long way 
in this region. Modest investments in section 333 and IMET, as 
well as in multilateral exercises and training would pay 
dividends in our efforts to compete with Russia and China.
    General VanHerck. Congress can continue to support programs 
and funding associated with military exchange and education 
programs as we balance priorities in this new era of strategic 
competition. As competitors seek to increase their influence 
globally, especially in the western hemisphere, USNORTHCOM's 
theater security cooperation (TSC) mission plays a key role in 
ensuring that the United States remains the partner of choice 
for nations in our area of responsibility. Military exchange 
and education programs supplement our TSC efforts by fostering 
personal relationships between international participants, 
exposing attendees to outside cultures and perspectives, and 
demonstrating the widespread national benefits of inclusive, 
rules-based societies and governments. These programs are 
crucial to maintaining trusted relationships and demonstrating 
the United States' commitment to regional safety, security, and 
cooperation. Continued congressional support is vital to 
efforts to deny competitors influence and access in the 
approaches to our Homeland.

                           RUSSIAN AGGRESSION

    24. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, in your posture 
statement you stated that North American Aerospace Defense 
Command (NORAD) has responded to more Russian military flights 
off the coast of Alaska than we've seen in any year since the 
end of the Cold War--can you speak to the nature of these 
flights and the associated responses?
    General VanHerck. In the last year, Russian military 
flights off the coast of Alaska involved heavy bombers, anti-
submarine aircraft, and intelligence assets. The Russians 
frequently penetrate the Alaskan Air Defense Identification 
Zone and they have demonstrated increasingly integrated and 
sophisticated operational tactics including multi-axis 
approaches. NORAD forces consisting of ground-based radars and 
aviation assets--including fighters, tankers, and Airborne 
Warning and Control Systems--detect, monitor, identify, and 
intercept these aircraft at the time and place of our choosing 
in accordance with my stated guidance.

    25. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, what do you think 
the strategic advantage is for Russia's growing investment in 
the Arctic?
    General VanHerck. More than 20 percent of Russia's gross 
domestic product is derived from the Arctic, making the region 
of critical strategic importance to Russian leaders. 
Diminishing Arctic sea ice could lead to faster and more 
efficient shipping routes; access to the region's largely 
untapped hydrocarbon, mineral, and protein resources; and 
greater operational maneuver space for maritime forces. As 
such, Russia continues to invest in capabilities and 
infrastructure--both defensive and offensive in nature--to 
secure its 13,000-nautical mile Arctic coastline and conduct 
influence activities throughout the region, including potential 
military operations directed toward North America.
    The ability to regulate activity in the Arctic has long 
been a challenge given its extreme environment and the lack of 
established rules and adopted norms for the region. Russian and 
Chinese activities in the Arctic, including the recent increase 
in Russian military aircraft incursions into the United States 
and Canadian Air Defense Identification Zones, Russian bomber 
missions into the Arctic Ocean, Russian maritime exercises that 
have included operations within the United States Exclusive 
Economic Zone, and deployment of Chinese icebreakers to the 
Arctic Ocean--are a concerted effort to shift these norms and 
patterns of behavior to demonstrate Russian and Chinese intent 
to compete in the northern approaches to North America.
    On 21 May 2021, Russia will assume the Chair of the Arctic 
Council, an official multi-lateral body that attempts to 
establish a set of international measures and standards in the 
Arctic region. Russia's continued military build-up in the 
northern region, its intent to claim a considerable expanse of 
the Arctic seabed, and its desire to increase the influence of 
observer states like China with the Arctic Council, leaves me 
very concerned that Russia will seek to introduce security 
initiatives via the Arctic Council and potentially drive a 
wedge between Arctic allies and partners. Such actions could 
alter the strategic balance in the region and shift the 
advantage toward our strategic competitors.

    26. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, what would you 
recommend that the United States be doing to support NATO 
[North Atlantic Treaty Organization] activity in the Arctic?
    General VanHerck. The asymmetric advantage the United 
States has over Russia and China is our network of allies, 
partners, and like-minded nations. NATO operations in the 
Arctic are critical to demonstrating the alliance's capability 
and commitment to deter and respond to regional threats. 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD are fully integrated with NATO member 
operations, activities, and investments in this vital region. 
One of the major tenets of my recently published USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD Strategy is that our commands strengthen Arctic 
partnerships to include NATO members, interagency partners, and 
Indigenous peoples and governments by building Arctic 
awareness; enhancing Arctic operations, capabilities and 
infrastructure; and ensuring a credible defense presence. 
Improved interoperability and timely information sharing with 
allies and partners is critical to establishing global all-
domain awareness, information dominance, and decision 
superiority. As such, USNORTHCOM and NORAD will continue to 
partner with NATO in pursuit of a global approach to an 
integrated and layered homeland defense that starts abroad. 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD also routinely collaborate with NATO 
members on strategic messaging to ensure alliance intent is 
clear and to reduce the likelihood of misunderstanding or 
miscalculation.

                                 CYBER

    27. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, how does NORTHCOM 
and NORAD see itself in our common mission to defend the 
Homeland against cyber security threats?
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM is the designated Department 
lead for defense support of civil authorities. I see the 
primary common mission for USNORTHCOM as working with the 
whole-of-government to determine priorities for critical 
infrastructure defense and, if needed, responding in support of 
civil authorities in support of crisis or contingency 
management. On a daily basis, USNORTHCOM's two allocated Cyber 
Protection Teams defend USNORTHCOM and NORAD cyber terrain and 
mission systems against cyber threats to provide mission 
assurance for both Commands, and also closely coordinate with 
USCYBERCOM and the Canadian Forces for additional support if 
required.

    28. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, how does the DOD 
ensure that our geographic COCOMs, especially NORTHCOM, are 
coordinated on cyber security threats and defending COCOM 
infrastructure?
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM and USCYBERCOM coordinate 
daily on potential cybersecurity threats to ensure that we are 
at the ready to defend DOD and United States infrastructure 
whenever needed. In addition, USNORTHCOM has USCYBERCOM 
personnel embedded in our headquarters to further align our 
collective cyber threat response actions. USCYBERCOM's 
Cyberspace Operations Integrated Planning Element is resident 
in our headquarters and synchronizes with USCYBERCOM multiple 
times daily on cyber threats to aid in the defense of 
USNORTHCOM cyber terrain and command and control 
infrastructure. Finally, USCYBERCOM facilitates cyber threat 
discussions several times a week with all of the combatant 
commands to ensure cyber threat visibility.

    29. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, you stated in 
your posture statement that you were deeply concerned about the 
development of Chinese capability in transitioning from cyber 
exploitation to cyber-attack--what do you think is the relative 
threat level of additional Chinese cyber-attacks on the United 
States Homeland?
    General VanHerck. We have seen the impact cyber-attacks can 
have on our domestic critical infrastructure in crisis or 
conflict, and I believe the threat level of additional cyber-
attacks on the U.S. Homeland and North America is high. Today, 
China routinely conducts cyber espionage against United States 
military, government, corporate, and academic networks to steal 
sensitive data and aid its weapons programs, inform its 
diplomacy, and advance its online influence operations. In a 
crisis or conflict, China almost certainly will launch cyber-
attacks on military and civilian infrastructure in an attempt 
to delay or disrupt a United States response and to destroy 
United States will and public support for intervention.

    30. Senator Blumenthal. General VanHerck, what are we 
currently doing, and what do we need to be doing in order to 
successfully counter and deter this threat?
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM continues to employ allocated 
cyber forces to defend our cyber terrain and critical mission 
systems. In addition, if a lead federal agency requests DOD 
support, as the Defense Support of Civil Authorities 
Synchronizer I will provide DOD capabilities as needed to 
support whole-of-government efforts to defend U.S. critical 
infrastructure. In order to do this, I need a whole-of-
government approach to prioritize U.S critical infrastructure 
so I can employ allocated forces needed to protect and defend 
critical non-DOD assets against cyber threats. In addition, I 
believe cybersecurity and cyber threat information sharing must 
continue to increase between the Federal Government and private 
sector. Although some progress has been made, improved 
information sharing will provide all-domain awareness to 
support a whole-of-government approach to countering and 
deterring the cyber threat.

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             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono

      INTELLIGENCE, SURVEILLANCE, AND RECONNAISSANCE (ISR) ASSETS

    31. Senator Hirono. Admiral Faller, in your statement to 
the Committee you point out that SOUTHCOM employs less than 1 
percent of DOD's ISR resources to counter external state actors 
(ESAs) and transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) in the 
Region, and then go on to mention your team's embrace of 
increasingly non-traditional intelligence collection efforts to 
bolster these efforts. In an era of increasingly constrained 
DOD resources, are there any additional procurement authorities 
or support Congress could grant you in the area of ISR to 
increase your collection capabilities, especially via non-
traditional means?
    Admiral Faller. We will be submitting a UFR list to 
Congress shortly after the President transmits the fiscal year 
2022 budget to Congress that will include both traditional and 
non-traditional ISR capabilities.

         COUNTERING CHINA, RUSSIA, AND OTHER ESAS IN THE REGION

    32. Senator Hirono. Admiral Faller, you highlight all the 
additional malign activities China, Russia, and other ESAs are 
taking in the area of responsibility (AOR) to undermine United 
States credibility and partnerships in the Region. With that, 
and similar to ongoing efforts with the European Deterrence 
Initiative (EDI) and Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI), 
should Congress consider a similar approach to focus lines of 
effort and align a whole-of-government approach to address 
increasing security threats in your AOR?
    Admiral Faller. As I have testified to my increasing 
concerns about the challenges in our own hemisphere, various 
Members of Congress have raised this concept of a regional 
initiative for the Western Hemisphere. Given the perfect storm 
of threats I see facing our neighborhood, I would agree that 
it's time for a big idea for this region. The President has 
publicly voiced concerns about the root causes of migration--
the violence, corruption, and instability in Central America--
and has pledged to work with those countries to address those 
challenges.
    Many of those root causes are driven by transnational 
criminal organizations (TCOs) that traffic in drugs, humans, 
arms, and any other commodity that will turn a profit for them. 
The corruption, instability, and human suffering that is 
fostered by these illicit organizations opens the door for 
competitors like China to leverage the dire circumstances in 
these countries for their gain. TCOs are violent--43 of the 50 
most violent cities in the world are in this hemisphere. With 
the added pressure that COVID-19 and two back-to-back major 
hurricanes have placed on the region, a whole-of-government 
strategy that includes all U.S. elements of national power will 
be critical to ensuring security and stability in the Western 
Hemisphere--our shared home.

         DOD'S ROLE IN ADDRESSING IMMIGRATION ISSUES IN THE AOR

    33. Senator Hirono. Admiral Faller, President Biden 
introduced the United States Citizenship Act recently, which if 
passed, would include $4 billion over 4 years to address root 
causes of migration in the Northern Triangle countries of El 
Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. How might DOD be involved in 
this?
    Admiral Faller. I believe that DOD does have an important 
role to play in such an initiative, in support of greater 
diplomatic and development efforts. Any strategy aimed at 
stability and prosperity will require basic security in order 
to be successful. One of the primary root causes of migration 
from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras is the violence and 
insecurity facing that region, created mostly by the murderous 
TCOs that operate with impunity in those countries. TCOs also 
use the incredible profits they earn from trafficking in 
humans, drugs, and arms to foster corruption and instability 
that drives people from their homes in search of a safe place 
for their families.
    The military brings capabilities to the table that are 
critical to building our neighbors' institutions and resiliency 
to the threats they are facing. DOD has established programs to 
help partner nations develop diverse and inclusive militaries 
that respect the rule of law and human rights. Our programs 
help develop the professional forces necessary to secure and 
stabilize our hemisphere. Our security cooperation programs 
include institutional capacity building in which we assist our 
partners in strengthening their basic security institutions to 
plan and manage resources. Our exercise program develops 
readiness, interoperability, and the ability to respond 
regionally to counter these threats. USSOUTHCOM also has the 
only Human Rights Office among Combatant Commands and has over 
25 years of experience working with partner nations to 
institutionalize respect for human rights in military and 
security forces. Through professional military education, we 
teach our partners what ``right'' and professional forces look 
like. If the U.S. military is not present to model the values 
of a strong democracy and respect for civilian authority, 
others, with less desirable values, will step in.

    34. Senator Hirono. Admiral Faller, has your office done 
any pre-planning on the U.S. Citizenship Act?
    Admiral Faller. USSOUTHCOM has not been part of the 
planning effort for this initiative. However, the work we do 
every day in this hemisphere--our shared home--is completely 
aligned with the goal of addressing root causes of illegal 
migration. Our efforts could easily be incorporated into a 
whole-of-government effort to assist our neighbors as they face 
the perfect storm of threats all colliding in our hemisphere--
violent TCOs fostering corruption, China and Russia taking 
advantage of that corruption, the long-term economic impacts of 
COVID-19, and two back-to-back devastating hurricanes. 
USSOUTHCOM stands prepared to play a supporting role in this 
important effort.

             SECURITY COOPERATION WITH ALLIES IN THE REGION

    35. Senator Hirono. Admiral Faller, thank you for 
emphasizing the importance of our allies and partners in the 
AOR--you specifically mention the flexibility to spend a 
greater share of title 10 section 333 funds over multiple years 
as an important tool to continue building partner capacity. Are 
there any other legislative changes that would further assist 
you in the important area of marshaling a stronger coalition of 
allies and partners in the Region to counter ESAs and TCOs in 
the AOR?
    Admiral Faller. USSOUTHCOM is working within current 
authorities and will engage the Congress if we find a need for 
further legislative changes.

                     SERVICEMEMBER QUALITY OF LIFE

    36. Senator Hirono. Admiral Faller, I am pleased you 
mention in your posture statement a continued focus on quality 
of life challenges directly affecting the force like finding 
adequate, affordable housing in the Miami area for SOUTHCOM 
servicemembers. Can you expound upon some of the efforts you've 
taken to combat this issue, including outreach with the local 
community, and the status of the Army's efforts to find a 
permanent, cost-effective housing solution in Miami?
    Admiral Faller. While Miami is a wonderful home for 
SOUTHCOM, it is a high cost of living area, which presents 
challenges for Servicemembers and civilians alike. Housing in 
the local area has been particularly challenging, with some 
landlords requiring 3-months rent up front, totaling 8$10,000. 
We are working with local communities to create exemptions to 
these high up-front costs for Servicemembers. While we work to 
alleviate the immediate financial burden, we are also working 
closely with the Department of the Army to find a low-cost, 
long-term housing solution near our Headquarters on already 
federally-owned land.
    In addition to these efforts in direct support of lowering 
housing costs, we also pursuing other quality of life 
initiatives to further mitigate financial burdens on our 
Servicemembers. This includes working closely with the Army on 
initiating a review of Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) rates 
for our local area as well as participating in a DOD cost of 
living allowance data collection to ensure our Servicemembers 
are receiving adequate compensation for this area. Finally, we 
are working with the State of Florida to seek tollway relief 
for those Servicemembers who are priced out of living near our 
headquarters and instead must commute over 20 miles each way to 
work via tollways.

         CLOSING THE DETENTION FACILITY AT GUANTANAMO BAY, CUBA

    37. Senator Hirono. Admiral Faller, the New York Times 
reported in the last year or so that keeping detainees at 
Guantanamo Bay costs approximately $13 million per detainee per 
year, or over $500 million per year total to house 40 
detainees--compare that to the $78,000 per year the United 
States spent in 2012 to hold individual prisoners at the ADX 
`Supermax' Facility in Florence, CO. Should we finally close 
down Guantanamo Bay and use those funds for additional 
operations to combat drug traffickers and TCOs in your AOR, 
thereby saving hundreds or even thousands of American lives per 
year?
    Admiral Faller. USSOUTHCOM and JTF-Guantanamo are 
responsible for the safe, legal, and humane care and custody of 
law of war detainees. Closing the detention facility at 
Guantanamo Bay would be a policy decision, as would be any 
decision on how best to use any money saved if it were to be 
closed.

                      CYBERATTACKS ON THE HOMELAND

    38. Senator Hirono. General VanHerck, you talk about the 
increasing sophistication of cyberattacks on our networks and 
infrastructure from a variety of adversaries, particularly 
Russia and China. You coordinate Defense Support to Civil 
Authorities (DSCA) in this area for the Homeland--are you 
confident your command has the authorities and tools necessary 
to ensure our state and local partners are protected from the 
increasing threats posed by nation-state cyberattacks?
    General VanHerck. I have the authorities and tools 
necessary to execute my role as the DSCA Synchronizer to ensure 
that DOD responds appropriately to any approved Request for 
Assistance we receive from lead federal agencies. I remain 
concerned about whole-of-nation preparedness for attacks from 
peer competitors or adversaries in a future crisis or conflict. 
We need a whole-of-government approach to prioritize U.S 
critical infrastructure in order for me to employ allocated 
forces to defend critical non-DOD assets against cyber threats 
that place mission assurance at risk. We are also working with 
USCYBERCOM to identify where new capabilities may be needed; 
for example, the interagency-approved standardized information 
template that facilitates rapid sharing of critical information 
from state and local levels to the DOD about possible threats 
to elections infrastructure is now a core element of our 
toolkit.

    39. Senator Hirono. General VanHerck, cyberattacks blur the 
line between traditional offensive military operations and 
operations short of war. What steps is NORTHCOM taking, in 
partnership with U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM), to continue to 
convey to our adversaries how we view cyberattacks and, 
specifically, what our significant responses might be in order 
to deter future attacks?
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM closely coordinates with 
USCYBERCOM to ensure our strategic messaging efforts and target 
audiences are aligned, and to assess possible competitor 
reactions and repercussions. We are unlikely to completely 
deter all malicious cyber activities, but the Department's 
``Defend Forward'' and CDRUSCYBERCOM's ``Persistent 
Engagement'' strategies are specific responses that signal that 
malicious cyber activities against the United States cannot be 
conducted without cost. Even so, Russian and Chinese cyber 
activity against the Homeland in the competition phase remains 
a significant concern.
    I believe national-level policy engagement, beyond DOD, 
with Russia and China is needed to establish rules and norms of 
expected behavior in cyberspace to reduce the potential for 
unintentional escalation or failure of strategic deterrence. 
USNORTHCOM and USCYBERCOM are not in the lead for cyber defense 
and response, but both commands provide policy inputs regarding 
cyber rules and norms to key agencies in the U.S. Government. 
The Cyber Response Group--with participation from federal 
departments and agencies such as the Department of State, the 
Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Homeland 
Security, and the Department of Justice--leads policy and 
strategy development, coordination, and implementation 
procedures for responding to significant cyber incidents.

                       BALLISTIC MISSILE DEFENSE

    40. Senator Hirono. General VanHerck, while I realize 
Hawaii technically falls within the geographic bounds of U.S. 
Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM), can you talk about the 
importance of getting the Homeland Defense Radar-Hawaii (HDR-H) 
operational to support our overall layered ballistic missile 
defense system?
    General VanHerck. I believe an operational HDR-H could 
contribute to an overall layered defense capability as one of 
several potential options that could be considered to provide 
additional capacity and capability--in this case, a layered 
defense specific to Hawaii--pending a Department decision on 
layered defense. I am confident I can defend all of the United 
States, including Hawaii and Alaska, with the missile defense 
system capability that we have today against a limited number 
of intercontinental ballistic missile threats from rogue 
nations. I remain concerned about my ability, specifically 
regarding future capacity and capability, to provide ballistic 
missile defense as the threats continue to adapt and evolve.

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             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe

                     HOMELAND DEFENSE RADAR--HAWAII

    41. Senator Inhofe. General VanHerck, during your 
testimony, you highlighted the increasing risks posed by North 
Korea's advancing intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) 
program, and the importance of continuing to update and evolve 
Homeland missile defenses in order to meet this threat. 
However, in its fiscal year 2021 budget request, DOD proposed 
eliminating funding for the Homeland Defense Radar--Hawaii. 
While Congress ultimately restored this funding, could you 
explain the impact to Homeland missile defense capabilities 
should the radar ultimately not be completed?
    General VanHerck. Please see response to #40.

                       MISSILE DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY

    42. Senator Inhofe. General VanHerck, in your written 
testimony, you outlined the growing threat to the United States 
Homeland posed by Russia's and China's investments in large 
numbers of long-range precision strike weapons, and North 
Korea's continued development of larger and more complex ICBMs. 
While you highlighted the range of efforts your command and DOD 
are taking to address these issues, are you concerned that we 
may be on the wrong side of the cost curve, especially since 
these countries can produce strike systems faster and cheaper 
than we can produce defensive interceptors?
    General VanHerck. Yes, a bullet-for-bullet strategy to 
kinetically defeat precision strike and ballistic missile 
threats to the Homeland is fiscally challenging. Although 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD require effective defensive capabilities 
to address threats faced by USNORTHCOM and NORAD today, my 
belief is that the focus should not solely be on kinetic kill 
capabilities. Policy makers must determine what USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD must defend with kinetic capabilities, as it is neither 
affordable nor realistic to defend every potential target in 
the Homeland.
    It is my belief we need to change our perspective beyond 
kinetic kill to emphasize deterrence by denial. We do this by 
drawing attention left of enemy launch by identifying adversary 
delivery platforms and preconditions for actions. As part of 
this strategy, USNORTHCOM and NORAD are pursuing a globally 
integrated defense approach that emphasizes the use of domain 
awareness sensors, data and information, and an open data 
architecture utilizing machine enhanced processing and 
artificial intelligence. This approach is designed to move 
decision space left and provide military commanders and senior 
civilian decision makers time to assess and act well ahead of 
our competitors.

    43. Senator Inhofe. General VanHerck, are there defensive 
technology areas where you would like to see greater 
investment--areas where progress might help the United States 
offset the cost imbalance without sacrificing operational 
effectiveness?
    General VanHerck. Yes. I recommend investments in multi-
mission, all-domain awareness capabilities and capitalizing on 
modern processing (machine learning and artificial 
intelligence) that is commercially available today to provide 
civilian decision makers and military commanders with 
information required to quickly assess situations and if 
needed, take action. I have communicated my integrated priority 
list to the Department, which emphasizes investment in these 
priorities. The ability to deter in competition, de-escalate in 
crisis, and deny or defeat in conflict requires all-domain 
awareness, information dominance, and decision superiority.

                  MISSILE DEFENSE POLICY AND STRATEGY

    44. Senator Inhofe. General VanHerck, in response to 
questions posed during his confirmation, Secretary of Defense 
Lloyd Austin committed to conducting a review of missile 
defense policies as part of the administration's overall 
defense strategy development. In the context of such a review, 
what would you consider your top three most critical capability 
shortfalls that DOD should work to address over the next 
several years?
    General VanHerck. Our ability to deter in competition, de-
escalate in crisis, and deny or defeat in conflict requires 
significant improvements in all-domain awareness, information 
dominance, and decision superiority--these are my top three 
critical capability shortfalls. A capable and persistent 
defense at home is a prerequisite to projecting power to a 
globally integrated forward fight. The integration and sharing 
of data for a global, layered sensing grid will provide 
warfighters and decision makers at strategic, operational, and 
tactical levels with increased awareness and decision space 
needed to make timely, well-informed decisions. It is my 
recommendation that such a missile defense review be part of an 
overall strategic deterrence review. Missile defense is 
integral to overall strategic deterrence and should be aligned 
with the nuclear posture review. If conducted independently, 
separate reviews will lead to separate solutions or decisions 
that have broader implications, and thus should be considered 
as part of overarching strategic deterrence.

           INTEGRATED TACTICAL WARNING AND ATTACK ASSESSMENT

    45. Senator Inhofe. General VanHerck, over the past several 
years, DOD has clearly articulated the urgent need to modernize 
and replace all aspects of the Nation's nuclear triad, as well 
as the associated nuclear command, control, and communications 
systems. However, a critical component that supports our 
strategic deterrent, the Integrated Tactical Warning and Attack 
Assessment (ITW/AA) system, is often overlooked. Could you 
provide us your assessment of the condition of the ITW/AA 
system?
    General VanHerck. The ITW/AA system provides strategic 
warning and attack assessment as originally designed against 
legacy threats. However, even with the current and future 
planned improvements to the ITW/AA system, my ability to 
provide threat warning and attack assessment in the future lags 
behind our adversaries' rapid development of low radar cross 
section, high-speed, maneuverable, long-range weapon systems. 
As our competitors' capabilities continue to improve, 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD require timely and accurate information 
across all domains to counter their advancements in weapons 
systems, global influence, and actions.

    46. Senator Inhofe. General VanHerck, are there portions of 
the ITW/AA system that you believe are in urgent need of 
modernization in order to ensure its continued effectiveness?
    General VanHerck. Yes, I believe the ITW/AA system has a 
pressing need to enhance all-domain awareness through 
integrating already-available sensor data. In addition, the 
Department must continue investments in service-life extensions 
of aging, but still-viable capabilities; development of new 
capabilities to include capabilities to hold hypersonics at 
risk; and inclusion of non-DOD capabilities to ensure 
effectiveness against current and future threats.

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             Questions Submitted by Senator Roger F. Wicker

     GRAPHIC DEPICTING U.S. INFLUENCE IN THE U.S. SOUTHERN COMMAND 
               (USSOUTHCOM) AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY (AOR)

    47. Senator Wicker. Admiral Faller, you submitted graphics 
depicting Chinese, Russian, and Iranian influence in the 
SOUTHCOM AOR. Please provide a similar graphic that shows U.S. 
economic and diplomatic engagement in your AOR.
    Admiral Faller. Attached is an updated map of U.S. 
influence focused on recent humanitarian assistance to the 
region to include COVID response; military education and 
training; equipment sales and transfers; and women, peace, and 
security engagements. Because port calls can many times involve 
minimal engagement with the host nation, we have included 
information on assistance provided by hospital ships, to 
include the USNS COMFORT. These naval deployments have made a 
significant impact in the nations visited. We have also include 
security agreements as an indication of the level of 
cooperation and partnership with the nations of this 
hemisphere.

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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan

                            MISSILE DEFENSE

    48. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, the National 
Defense Strategy articulates the top defense objective as: 
``defending the Homeland from attack;'' a vital component of 
meeting this is robustly investing in our Nation's missile 
defense capabilities. Unfortunately, we are trending in the 
wrong direction regarding this issue: North Korea and Iran 
continue to expand the quantity, range, and lethality of their 
arsenals, as do our top great power competitors. Yet, as these 
threats trend upward, the budget allocated to missile defense 
trends flat or downward. In your personal opinion, how soon do 
you think the missile capabilities of rogue nations -North 
Korea and Iran--will outpace NORTHCOM's ability to defend the 
Homeland?
    General VanHerck. There are many variables that challenge 
my ability to pinpoint a specific time when our ballistic 
missile defenses might be outpaced. While I currently have the 
ability to defend against a limited number of ballistic missile 
threats from these rogue nations, I am very concerned about 
their ability to exceed my defensive capacity and capability in 
the near future. My intelligence team keeps me continuously 
apprised of North Korean and Iranian efforts to advance their 
missile programs. Without improvements to our current system--
such as fielding of the Next Generation Interceptor, on time or 
sooner, and a Department decision about a layered missile 
defense capability--our defensive capacity will remain 
constant, while the threat continues to grow, eventually 
exceeding my defensive capacity and capability.

    49. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, in a 2020 House 
Armed Services Committee hearing, former Under Secretary of 
Defense for Policy (USD-P) John Rood agreed with the NORTHCOM 
assessment that North Kora's ballistic missile threat could 
challenge the capability of the ground-based midcourse defense 
(GMD) system as soon as 2025. Unfortunately, the Next 
Generation Interceptor (NGI) is not expected to be fielded 
until 2030 on the current timeline. How important is it that we 
field the NGI?
    General VanHerck. While ultimately this will be a policy 
decision, I believe that it is extremely important to field the 
NGI. My top priority as I work with VADM Hill at the Missile 
Defense Agency is to maintain the schedule, and if possible, 
seek ways to accelerate the fielding of the NGI to provide much 
needed capacity and additional capabilities to maintain or 
outpace adversary capability development.

    50. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, what level of risk 
does NORTHCOM (and by extension our Nation) take on if the 
current timeline is not accelerated to keep up with the missile 
capability, capacity and reach of rogue nations?
    General VanHerck. My top priority for ballistic missile 
defense is to maintain or accelerate the fielding of the Next 
Generation Interceptor (NGI). While today USNORTHCOM can defend 
against a limited number of intercontinental ballistic missile 
threats from rogue nations, without NGI, current capability or 
capacity could be exceeded in the future and the risk to our 
Nation, and overall strategic deterrence failure, will increase 
as countries like North Korea continue to advance their missile 
programs. The DOD is continuing to evaluate additional options 
to mitigate potential capability challenges prior to the NGI 
being fielded.

    51. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, the missile 
capabilities possessed by rogue nations--North Korea and Iran--
continue to rapidly evolve. The New York Times recently 
reported that North Korea showcased the country's ``largest-
ever'' ICBM just over a month ago, and revealed a new 
submarine-launched ballistic missile even more recently. 
Provided the presence of these very real and capable threats to 
our Nation's Homeland, are the 44 ground-based interceptors 
(GBI) currently postured enough to present a credible defense 
of the American people?
    General VanHerck. I defer to OSD and the SECDEF on the 
overall policy for the total number of ground-based 
interceptors. Although I maintain the capability to defend the 
Homeland against the current threat today, I remain very 
concerned about USNORTHCOM's ballistic missile defense capacity 
and capability being exceeded in the future as rogue nations 
continue to develop ICBM technology.

                          POLAR COMMUNICATIONS

    52. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, in your statement 
for the record, you highlight NORTHCOM's focus on improving 
Arctic communications through a commercial constellation of low 
earth orbit (LEO) satellites. You describe this effort's 
ability to: `` . . . dramatically improve communication for 
military users in the Arctic, as well as for civilians in 
remote, high latitude communities.'' Congress appropriated $50 
million of the $130 million requested for this program in 
NORTHCOM's Unfunded Priority List. Can you describe for me the 
current status of this program and why LEO satellites--in 
support of polar communications--are so important,and, what the 
impact would be to NORTHCOM if unfunded?
    General VanHerck. I am grateful to the Committee for the 
funding authorized in the fiscal year 2021 National Defense 
Authorization Act for improved polar communications. In early 
May 2021, the Air Force awarded contracts to two commercial 
vendors, presenting the opportunity for competition to test 
Arctic capability between two different contract providers. 
This will enable initial testing of commercial Arctic 
communications capabilities, with the testing likely to 
commence by late summer 2021. In coordination with the Air 
Force Research Laboratory, USNORTHCOM and NORAD have already 
deployed terminals to Arctic locations and will begin testing 
as soon as the commercial satellite providers are ready. My 
expectation is to have reliable capability from multiple 
commercial vendors with near-24/7 Arctic coverage in the spring 
2022 timeframe.
    Commercial proliferated low earth orbit (LEO) satellite 
constellations are essential to the Homeland defense mission 
due to their high data rates, low latency, and expected lower 
costs--particularly in the polar region where there is 
currently little to no communications capability. Low latency, 
which can only be achieved using satellites in LEO orbits, is 
critical to fusing data from the North Warning System, applying 
advanced analytics via artificial intelligence/machine learning 
capabilities, and maximizing the detection capability of the 
system used to protect the United States and Canada. When I 
talk about domain awareness and information dominance, and 
being able to perceive and respond to complex threats, this 
system enables USNORTHCOM and NORAD to achieve those 
objectives. If unfunded, extremely limited SATCOM accessibility 
and bandwidth will continue to hinder Arctic persistence and 
military operations by restricting the ability to provide early 
warning and other important communications to USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD command and control systems.

                          ARCTIC CAPABILITIES

    53. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, in your statement 
for the record, you identify: ``Improving our domain awareness, 
communications systems, and our ability to conduct and sustain 
multi-domain operations in the high north are all important 
priorities for both NORTHCOM and NORAD.'' With this in mind--in 
your personal opinion, what capability gaps presently exist 
that inhibit your ability to effectively 1) project and sustain 
power in the Arctic, 2) compete with Russia and China in the 
northern latitudes, and 3) implement the National Defense 
Strategy?
    General VanHerck. My capability gaps related to 
establishing a persistent, sustainable presence in the Arctic 
include maritime fueling capability north of Dutch Harbor, 
which is necessary to expand the Navy's and Coast Guard's 
operational reach; improved infrastructure for our air assets 
(e.g. fighters, tankers, and ISR platforms); reliable, 
resilient communications systems; and modernized high-north 
domain awareness systems developed in coordination with our 
Canadian allies.
    Additionally, USNORTHCOM and NORAD must have a dedicated 
allocation of Arctic-trained forces and Arctic-proven 
capabilities via the Global Force Management (GFM) process in 
order to effectively implement the National Defense Strategy 
and successfully execute the commands' assigned missions in the 
Arctic. Recent USNORTHCOM and NORAD exercises in the Arctic 
have been accomplished through support of units volunteering 
for the training opportunity and expending Military Personnel 
Appropriation (MPA) days, instead of being supported through 
assignment by the GFM process. In order to deliberately build 
capability in the Arctic, the Department must increase the 
prioritization of homeland defense and Arctic exercises and 
training against other requirements within the larger GFM 
process. We cannot execute the Strategy without adequately 
trained, equipped, and allocated forces.

    54. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, what level of 
resourcing would you need to close these gaps?
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM and NORAD's collaboration with 
the Services and industry partners shows we can achieve 
affordable but significant capability advancements and 
innovative solutions to our most pressing challenges. In a key 
recent example, I am grateful for the Committee's support for 
initial efforts to operationalize emerging commercial space 
internet systems. However, I still require concurrent, 
coordinated binational, bilateral, and unilateral investments 
by the United States and Canada in NORAD warning systems to 
meet current and future threats, as well as NORAD modernization 
efforts focused on all-domain awareness in support of achieving 
information dominance and decision superiority.

    55. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, in your personal 
opinion, do we have the necessary infrastructure--like 
Strategic Arctic Ports and expeditionary airfields--to project 
power and effectively compete in the Arctic?
    General VanHerck. No. USNORTHCOM and NORAD do not have the 
necessary infrastructure to execute the National Defense 
Strategy and Canadian Defence Strategy, compete with peer 
competitors day-to-day, or respond in crisis and conflict. Fuel 
is necessary for persistence and to support maritime power 
projection and sustainment. I am agnostic about what solution 
mitigates that capability gap. I do know that if the Port of 
Nome expansion as recommended by the 2019 U.S. Army Corps of 
Engineers feasibility study comes to fruition, it will increase 
Navy and Coast Guard reach and persistence in the Arctic. In 
addition, testing and developing Arctic Expeditionary Air Base 
Sets are also essential to meeting force laydown and shelter 
requirements. Finally, it is also necessary to fix 
deteriorating infrastructure in the high north (e.g. hangars, 
runways, distribution facilities, and storage for petroleum, 
oil, and lubricants) and update communications systems to 
modern standards.

    56. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, what risk do we 
assume if we continue to forego adequate investments in these 
types of infrastructure?
    General VanHerck. Access to adequate infrastructure in the 
Arctic is critical to our ability to effectively defend the 
Homeland by deterring adversaries in competition, de-escalating 
in crisis, and defeating threats in conflict. Our competitors 
are making national investments in their Arctic operational 
capabilities; we must make similar smart, targeted investments 
to ensure the Joint Force's continued ability to operate 
effectively in this critical region while continuing to invest 
in training, personnel, and equipment readiness to operate in 
this challenging environment.

    57. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, in your personal 
opinion, do we have the right mix of U.S. Navy surface ships to 
visibly contest illegal maritime claims, provide maritime 
warning and defense, and ensure a free and open maritime domain 
YEAR-ROUND--with surface freedom of navigation operations 
(FONOP)--in the Arctic? If yes, please explain how this could/
will be executed with the current inventory.
    General VanHerck. I defer to the Navy and DOD regarding 
specific Naval force structure. With that said, I believe the 
Arctic continues to be an emerging global area of interest with 
many unique challenges which require us to constantly review 
and improve our technologies, tactics, techniques and 
procedures. The demand for future global naval capacity is 
likely to increase, not decrease.

                     INTEGRATING ARCTIC STRATEGIES

    58. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, the Department of 
Defense released its Arctic Strategy in June 2019, the Air 
Force followed suit with its own strategy in July 2020, the 
Department of the Navy published their Arctic Blueprint in 
January 2021, and the Army's Arctic Strategy was released just 
this week. Can you describe to me--as the advocate for Arctic 
capabilities and one of two combatant commands with primary 
responsibility for Arctic military operations--how you are 
integrating these strategies and ensuring their implementation?
    General VanHerck. My USNORTHCOM and NORAD Strategy covers 
the Commands' entire area of responsibility, including the 
Arctic, and aligns with objectives identified in the Interim 
National Security Strategic Guidance, the National Defense 
Strategy, and the 2019 DOD Arctic Strategy. It directs 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD elements to defend the United States and 
Canada in and through the Arctic with allies and partners, 
including Indigenous peoples and governments, by building 
Arctic awareness; enhancing Arctic operations, capabilities, 
and infrastructure; and ensuring a credible defense presence.
    This Strategy will be implemented through the forthcoming 
USNORTHCOM Combatant Command Campaign Plan, which adds fidelity 
to my strategic guidance. The Combatant Command Campaign Plan 
includes specific objectives and tasking for USNORTHCOM Service 
components regarding development and implementation of Arctic-
related Service capabilities and concepts, including 
operational test and evaluation for Arctic operations. Because 
these objectives and tasks align with, and are enabled by, the 
implementation of Service Arctic strategies, USNORTHCOM will be 
able to advocate more effectively for resourcing Arctic 
requirements.

    59. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, do you believe each 
Service is assigning adequate attention and focus toward the 
Arctic?
    General VanHerck. Yes, for now, I am encouraged by the 
Services' development of Arctic strategies and attention toward 
the Arctic. However, I look forward to reviewing the Services' 
Program Objective Memoranda (POM) and the fiscal year 2022 
President's Budget to gain a better sense of how the Services 
plan to resource those strategies.

                 RUSSIA'S ``DEFENSIVE'' ARCTIC POSTURE

    60. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, several senior 
defense officials and nominees have recently characterized 
Moscow's approach in the Arctic as: ``largely from a 
territorial defense perspective.'' Yet, Russia has increased 
its incursions of the Alaska Air Defense Identification Zone 
markedly over the last year. In fact, the average number of 
intercepts of Russian aircraft from 2007 to 2019 was six to 
seven. In 2020--through October--there were a total of 14. 
Further, Russia has also increased the frequency and scale of 
military exercises in the region. Last August, the Russian navy 
conducted a major exercise consisting of more than 50 warships 
and 40 aircraft in the Bering Sea; which, also encompassed them 
expelling United States fishing fleets from our own exclusive 
economic zone. Do you view these activities as defensive in 
nature?
    General VanHerck. No. The Arctic is key terrain for both 
Russia and the United States, and Russian military forces 
regularly conduct exercises in the region that are likely 
designed to accomplish multiple objectives--including training 
in the harsh Arctic environment and directing strategic 
messaging at the United States, NORAD, and the North Atlantic 
Treaty Organization. More specifically, Russian heavy bombers 
are inherently offensive platforms, so I view any of their 
flights near Alaska as Russia messaging that it can hold North 
America at risk with its inventory of advanced air-launched 
cruise missiles. Further, Russia's naval exercise in the Bering 
Sea in August 2020 was its first such exercise in that area in 
decades and included launches of anti-ship and coastal defense 
cruise missiles against targets near the Russian coastline. I 
believe these activities are primarily intended to demonstrate 
the Russian Pacific Fleet's ability to destroy naval surface 
platforms in the North Pacific in the event of escalation of 
conflict with the United States.

    61. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, what, in your 
opinion, would constitute military activity in the Arctic that 
could be characterized as offensive?
    General VanHerck. In my role as the Commander of USNORTHCOM 
and NORAD, I view actions that threaten the United States and 
Canadian Homelands as potentially offensive in nature--
including those in the Arctic. In recent years, Russia has 
developed and demonstrated advanced air-, sea-, and ground-
launched land-attack cruise missiles, and I see any military 
activity that simulates the employment of these systems in the 
Arctic as demonstrating offensive capability. This includes 
flights by Russian heavy bombers into the Alaska Air Defense 
Identification Zone and the Canada Air Defense Identification 
Zone. I see large-scale demonstrations of offensive assault 
capabilities using airborne or amphibious troops and activities 
that threaten to sever or significantly restrict legitimate 
access to the Arctic in a similar light.

                           TED STEVENS CENTER

    62. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, last year Congress 
appropriated $10 million for the Department of Defense (DOD) 
Ted Stevens Center for Arctic Security Studies which was 
authorized in the Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA. The Ted Stevens Center 
will be the first DOD regional center in the Arctic and will 
seek to support defense strategy objectives and policy 
priorities through an academic forum, while also fostering 
strong international networks of security leaders. As the 
advocate for United States Armed Forces capabilities in the 
Arctic, how do you see this center supporting NORTHCOM 
objectives in the Arctic and what topics would you like to see 
the center focus on?
    General VanHerck. I see a Center for Arctic Security 
Studies as having the potential to support USNORTHCOM's 
homeland defense objectives by improving cooperation with 
allies and partners, promoting shared understanding of Arctic 
security challenges, and facilitating international 
collaboration on matters of common interest. A center could 
also provide significant value in research and development of 
software and systems that advance my top priority of providing 
global all-domain awareness, improving information sharing with 
allies and partners, and creating open architectures for Arctic 
sensor and data feeds. Finally, it could also be helpful for 
such a center to analyze environmental, strategic, and economic 
issues in the region; foster international cooperation; and 
promote the value of the Arctic as an international commons.

               WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH IN THE ARCTIC

    63. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, the Arctic 
encompasses a wide range of government institutions to include 
the U.S. State Department's role on the Arctic Council and 
coordination with allies, the U.S. Intelligence Community's 
role in maintaining Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance operations, and the numerous Federal Agencies 
involved in research, infrastructure, commerce, and natural 
resource development in the Arctic region. Would you agree with 
me that the United States must use a whole-of-government 
approach to address issues in the Arctic? If so, how would you 
suggest the DOD better include other Government agencies in 
their approach to Arctic issues?
    General VanHerck. Yes. A whole-of-government approach is 
critical to success in the Arctic, and I believe the United 
States must implement all elements of national power to keep 
pace with the rapidly evolving strategic and environmental 
situation in the region. To ensure success, the DOD must work 
with partners from across the interagency, and with our allies 
and partners, to develop a whole-of-government framework for 
rising to the challenges of strategic competition, which would 
certainly include challenges in the Arctic. Further, continued 
interagency participation in international forums such as the 
Arctic Council, Arctic Coast Guard Forum, and the Arctic 
Security Forces Roundtable, along with close coordination 
between the State Department, the DOD, and the intelligence and 
scientific communities, are necessary to maintain unity of 
effort, consistent messaging, and consensus among our Arctic 
allies and partners.

                    ARCTIC FORCES COMMAND STRUCTURE

    64. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck, as you know, 
NORTHCOM is the advocate for capabilities in the Arctic, United 
States European Command (EUCOM) contains much of the threat in 
the Arctic, and INDOPACOM is assigned the forces that operate 
in the Arctic. In your personal opinion, given its convoluted 
nature, what changes would you recommend, if any, to improve 
the organization of the command structure to better address 
threats in the Arctic? Please elaborate.
    General VanHerck. I believe current command structure and 
relationships require adjustment to maximize the Joint Force's 
ability to operate under a globally integrated construct and 
provide effective military options in the Arctic during periods 
of competition, crisis, and conflict. In order to develop and 
field a modernized defense design for the continent and our 
Homeland, USNORTHCOM and NORAD are developing a series of 
focused table top exercises and senior leader seminars to 
examine the current command and control structure and its 
effectiveness in supporting Arctic operations. I have also 
directed USNORTHCOM and NORAD to examine and modify our 
internal command and control constructs wherever possible under 
current authorities. Once that analysis is complete, I intend 
to convene a series of discussions with USINDOPACOM, USEUCOM, 
the functional combatant commands, the Services, and the Joint 
Staff to examine options for adjusting the current construct.
    I would add that I welcome opportunities to explore 
potential benefits associated with Service retention of Alaska-
based forces to ensure timely and effective employment of 
assets wherever they might be needed globally in the event of a 
crisis or contingency. My intent is to better support the Joint 
Force's ability to conduct integrated operations across the 
Arctic region, which, as you note, involves the operational 
interests of three geographic combatant commands.

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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn

                     MODERNIZATION AND STOVEPIPING

    65. Senator Blackburn. General VanHerck, what specific 
policy changes would be required for the Department of Defense 
(DOD) to improve its efforts to leverage emerging 
technologies--e.g., the artificial intelligence used by 
Pathfinder--to make data accessible, shareable, and actionable?
    General VanHerck. I believe acquisition policies that can 
accommodate innovative software and cloud-native approaches 
will be increasingly important as technology rapidly improves. 
Pathfinder showed us that current acquisition policies, which 
are oriented to fielding physical systems, inhibit the agile 
development and evolution necessary to fuse data from many 
sources and provide the warfighter with actionable information. 
As a Department, I believe we can improve the ways in which we 
approach security, acquisition, development, and costing in 
order to capitalize the strength of cloud-native approaches.
    I would also note that USNORTHCOM and NORAD have made huge 
strides in our modernization efforts by utilizing direct hiring 
authority for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics 
(STEM) positions. By using this authority, our Pathfinder 
effort mirrors the hiring standards of industry, allowing the 
team to rapidly hire information technology experts from 
outside the Department and embed those personnel with the 
warfighter. As a result, the work on data feed integration and 
artificial intelligence that was originally scheduled to take a 
year was completed in less than six months.

    66. Senator Blackburn. General VanHerck, what specific 
culture changes would be required for DOD to improve its 
efforts to leverage emerging technologies--e.g., the artificial 
intelligence used by Pathfinder--to make data accessible, 
shareable, and actionable?
    General VanHerck. I believe the Department should stop 
developing a DOD data standard and instead re-vector efforts 
towards DOD data governance. The time it takes industry 
partners to decode and parse data is measured in days, hours, 
and minutes, vice the weeks and months that it often takes 
within the Department. Industry has an agnostic approach to 
data format and so should the Department--it is what gives 
industry their speed and agility. The Department should 
standardize governance across the combatant commands and 
Services to ease restrictions on data transfer, usage, access, 
and sharing.
    A two-pronged approach is needed to affect culture change: 
top-down and bottom-up. For the top-down effort, combatant 
commanders need to work closely with Department support 
agencies to articulate how important global integration is to 
approaching our greatest threats. Few threats stop at a 
geographic boundary or are contained within a domain. This type 
of thinking must infuse policy guidance. For the bottom-up 
effort, Airmen, Soldiers, Sailors, Guardians, and Marines need 
to participate in cloud-native development environments, 
allowing and encouraging them to explore and experiment without 
over-burdensome rules, to leverage technology and deliver 
warfighting capability at the speed of relevance.

    67. Senator Blackburn. General VanHerck, does DOD have the 
knowledge base necessary to optimize modernization through 
emerging technologies? Please explain your answer.
    General VanHerck. Yes. The DOD continues to grow its 
knowledge base of emerging technologies through partnerships 
with commercial, private, and academic groups to ensure the 
Department stays abreast of promising developments. Examples 
such as the Defense Innovation Board; Defense Innovation Unit; 
Space Development Agency; Defense Advanced Research Projects 
Agency; and Service innovation centers, labs, and sponsored 
groups like AFWERX help optimize modernization throughout the 
DOD.

    68. Senator Blackburn. General VanHerck, what immediate 
actions could Congress take to enhance the roles of public-
private partnerships, our national and defense labs, and the 
National Guard in supporting DOD's modernization efforts--
especially those relating to emerging technologies and data 
science? Please explain your answer.
    General VanHerck. Immediate actions Congress could take are 
to ensure sufficient research and development funding for 
emerging technologies and data science developments, while 
continuing to create opportunities for partnerships between DOD 
and outside experts. Also, Congress can help to create and 
support a culture where failure, when properly managed, is okay 
and a natural part of accelerating capability development--the 
Department learns the most from failures. Those collaborative 
efforts are critical to achieving all-domain awareness, 
information dominance, and decision superiority. As threats 
continue to advance, it is increasingly important to foster 
public-private partnerships, as well as collaboration with 
national and defense labs and the National Guard to outpace our 
competitors.

                          INFLUENCE CAMPAIGNS

    69. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Faller, how is SOUTHCOM 
especially adept at ``doing more with less'' to implement the 
National Defense Strategy?
    Admiral Faller. SOUTHCOM continues to learn how best to 
leverage capabilities that are not within DOD programs of 
record or assets/capabilities in order to stay innovative. We 
have very willing partners in this hemisphere, who with a 
little assistance via security cooperation become an integral 
part of our regional approach to counter regional threats. Our 
partners have proven to be an integral part of regional 
security--having been critical participants in 60% of our TCO 
disruptions over the last year. Our efforts through programs 
like section 333 have demonstrated clear return on investment, 
building interoperability and operational capacity of our 
partners to operate shoulder-to-shoulder with us.
    SOUTHCOM will look to continue expanding and investing in 
non-traditional ISR utilizing 21st century social media 
tradecraft as a means of illuminating and limiting 
disinformation/misinformation in a whole-of-government approach 
that includes engaging with industry to best compete in a 
competitive information environment.

    70. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Faller, which of these high-
return-on-investment activities are most effective in 
countering Chinese influence campaigns in the SOUTHCOM AOR?
    Admiral Faller. Intelligence drives everything. Small 
investments in our non-traditional intelligence programs can 
help inform us and, just as important, our partner nations, on 
the activities of the PRC in this region. With capabilities 
like COGINT (Commercial + Open Geointelligence) and Open Source 
Intelligence, we are able to understand the impact Chinese 
influence campaigns are having in the SOUTHCOM AOR and do so 
rapidly, leveraging automated machine learning. For instance, 
we have a better understanding of which Chinese companies and 
vessels are conducting illegal, unreported, and unregulated 
fishing, and are constantly monitoring patterns of activity. 
This information is key to help strengthening relationships and 
for maritime sovereignty and security throughout the region.
    IMET and other International Training Programs build 
professionalism and trust, which helps ``box out'' the 
competition. The opportunity to bring our partners to the 
United States for training provides an invaluable experience 
for them and their families and build lifelong friendships with 
future regional leaders.
    The National Guard State Partnership Program is a low-cost 
program that is a tremendous force multiplier for SOUTHCOM. We 
have the most State Partners of any region in the world, 
recognizing the power of the long-term, habitual relationships 
and engagements that this program brings to the table.
    The tools available through Security Cooperation allow for 
maximum engagement with our partner nation military and 
security forces. These tools include Key Leader Engagements, 
Subject Matter Expert Exchanges, Conferences, Workshops, Mobile 
Training Teams, and Institutional Capacity Building at the 
Ministry level, to name a few. A little bit goes a long way in 
this theater, time invested through engagements whether in 
person, virtual, or a hybrid are invaluable.

                            MISSILE DEFENSE

    71. Senator Blackburn. General VanHerck, the Strategic 
Homeland Integrated Ecosystems for Layered Defense (SHIELD) 
will employ repurposed legacy systems and newer technology in 
tandem. How do you assess the desirability of combining these 
systems to address threats from strategic competitors and rogue 
regimes?
    General VanHerck. I believe the ability to get more 
capability out of legacy systems while folding in new 
technology is key to the overall capability and affordability 
of proposed architectures in a credible layered defense against 
strategic competitors and rogue regimes. The architectures 
developed must capitalize on current systems to address current 
threats, but must also be adaptable to integrate new and 
developing systems to counter evolving threats across the full 
spectrum of conflict from the tactical to strategic level, from 
peer nations to rogue actors. Our nation can no longer afford 
stove-piped capabilities that cost billions of dollars and take 
decades to deliver. Several current technologies can be 
modified or improved to help create a persistent, capable area 
defense at home, while also preserving the Department's ability 
to contribute to the forward, globally integrated fight. 
Building upon our existing legacy systems allows the Services 
to maintain current programs of record, as well as increasing 
their interoperability with new technology to address the 
evolving threats.

    72. Senator Blackburn. General VanHerck, are there 
additional roles or niche areas in which Canada could take a 
more offensive role within the SHIELD ecosystem--e.g., non-
kinetic disruptive capabilities in the cyber domain? If so, 
please identify them and explain their desired impacts.
    General VanHerck. The United States and Canada have 
complementary roles in homeland defense. In the near term, 
systems improving all-domain awareness are the top priority for 
NORAD modernization, and Canada plays a key role in that 
effort. For example, Canada is the leader in polar over-the-
horizon radar (POTHR) research, and recently began work on a 
prototype system in the Canadian Archipelago. When fielded, 
POTHR will provide an ability to detect approaching aircraft 
and missiles at extremely long ranges, closing gaps in our 
current legacy warning and assessment systems, and denying the 
Arctic as an avenue of approach.

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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley

          CHINA'S MILITARY PRESENCE IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE

    73. Senator Hawley. Admiral Faller, you wrote in your 
testimony that China seeks to ``establish global logistics and 
basing infrastructure in our hemisphere in order to project and 
sustain military power.'' Are you worried that China may one 
day seek to establish a more regular or permanent military 
presence in the Western Hemisphere?
    Admiral Faller. Examples exist around the world of the PRC 
establishing dual-use facilities that it initially touted as 
strictly commercial, but later used for government/military 
purposes. Likewise, the PRC is moving out methodically on its 
stated goals in the Western Hemisphere--to expand trade, 
presence, and influence--goals that will increase investments 
in this region in critical infrastructure like deep water ports 
and space tracking facilities.

    74. Senator Hawley. Admiral Faller, what would it mean for 
United States national security if China were able to regularly 
deploy or permanently station forces in the Western Hemisphere?
    Admiral Faller. From experience in other regions, when the 
PRC comes to town it is rarely ``just economic'' and the PRC 
envisions dual use capability. Greater port access will provide 
strategic locations for future military presence. We are 
currently seeing PRC influence across the full spectrum in this 
hemisphere - political, economic, and military.
    As the Department's most recent report to Congress on 
military and security developments related to China notes, the 
PRC is working to establish a robust global network of overseas 
bases and logistics nodes to allow its military, the People's 
Liberation Army (PLA), to project and sustain military power 
globally. A persistent PLA presence in the Western Hemisphere 
would present both a broad challenge to U.S. access, presence, 
and influence in our own neighborhood and a threat to the 
ability of the Department to operate in our own neighborhood.

    75. Senator Hawley. General VanHerck, Admiral Faller 
testified that China seeks to ``establish global logistics and 
basing infrastructure in our hemisphere in order to project and 
sustain military power.'' Are you worried that China may one 
day seek to establish a more regular or permanent military 
presence in the Western Hemisphere?
    General VanHerck. Yes. I am concerned China will attempt to 
establish a permanent military presence in the Western 
Hemisphere. Over the past decade, Chinese naval ships visited 
regions very distant from China's shores, including multiple 
countries in the Western Hemisphere. The Chinese actively 
compete with the United States in this Hemisphere for influence 
and economic advantage, pursuing investments in natural 
resources and energy to meet demands at home and to finance 
interests abroad. China uses its One Belt-One Road initiative 
to modernize port facilities worldwide to ostensibly support 
trade, and could leverage an expanded presence in this 
Hemisphere to deepen its regional influence and to broaden its 
security cooperation relationships.

    76. Senator Hawley. General VanHerck, what would it mean 
for United States national security if China were able to 
regularly deploy or permanently station forces in the Western 
Hemisphere?
    General VanHerck. From a homeland defense perspective, a 
permanent or semi-permanent Chinese military presence in the 
Western Hemisphere would be a significant concern. It would 
erode and undermine U.S. global leadership, constrain our 
options in crisis, and create significant challenges during a 
conflict. Moreover, it would amplify the influence China has 
gained through trade and investment by offering an alternative 
to United States security guarantees.

    77. Senator Hawley. General VanHerck, you wrote that China 
is augmenting its offensive cyber capabilities with ``a new 
family of long-range precision-strike weapons capable of 
targeting key logistical nodes'' in the continental United 
States. What should the United States prioritize doing in the 
next five years to strengthen deterrence against Chinese 
attacks, kinetic or otherwise, on our critical infrastructure?
    General VanHerck. To deter competitors like China, it will 
be increasingly important to prioritize our protection of 
critical capabilities for homeland defense and power 
projection. Our current doctrine of deterrence by denial will 
be increasingly challenged by competitors that possess the 
capability to strike the Homeland from multiple avenues of 
approach and in multiple domains. To outpace these advanced 
threats, we must get ahead of our competitors' decision making 
by establishing global all-domain awareness and working toward 
information dominance and providing our leaders at all levels 
with decision superiority.

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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 25, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

   UNITED STATES SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND AND UNITED STATES CYBER 
                                COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Peters, Manchin, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, 
Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and 
Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order. Just to 
make everyone aware, we have four votes scheduled to begin at 
10:45, so we will have to be, yeah, we will be very flexible.
    But let me make my opening remarks, and then recognize 
Senator Inhofe, and then recognize our panel.
    Good morning. Today, the Committee meets to receive an 
update on the readiness and posture of both the U.S. Special 
Operations Command (SOCOM) and the Cyber Command.
    Our witnesses are Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, Christopher 
Maier; Commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, General 
Richard Clarke; and Commander of U.S. Cyber Command, National 
Security Agency Director, and Chief of the Central Security 
Service, General Paul Nakasone.
    Both Special Operations Command, or SOCOM, and Cyber 
Command, are at the forefront of addressing the asymmetric 
information and technical challenges that transcend the 
boundaries of the geographic combatant commands. I hope our 
witnesses will convey our appreciation to the men and women you 
represent and their families, for their dedication and 
sacrifice in carrying out many of our Nation's most difficult 
and complex missions.
    In 1986, when Congress created SOCOM, to ensure the 
readiness of Special Operations Forces, or SOF, it also 
established the position of the Assistant Secretary of Defense 
for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, or ASD SO/
LIC, to be the service-like secretary tasked with day-to-day 
advocacy and oversight of SOF.
    In recent years, Congress has sought to further empower the 
ASD SO/LIC and optimize the partnership with the commander of 
SOCOM through the annual National Defense Authorization Act. 
Unfortunately, the Department has not made sufficient progress 
in implementing these reforms, particularly with respect to 
hiring appropriate personnel and establishing a strong role for 
the ASD SO/LIC and all decisions relating to the organization, 
training, equipping, and readiness of SOF.
    We are pleased Mr. Maier is joining us today as the acting 
ASD SO/LIC and look forward to receiving a nominee so the 
Department can have a fully empowered, Senate-confirmed 
civilian in this important position.
    Mr. Maier and General Clarke, I hope you will provide your 
assessment of how this Committee can help to ensure that the 
SO/LIC reforms are both, fully implemented and effective, in 
their ultimate goal of supporting the SOF enterprise.
    In recent years, there have been several incidents and 
allegations of misconduct involving special operators that, as 
General Clarke has noted, jeopardized the trust placed in SOF. 
I applaud SOCOM for taking a hard look in the mirror by 
completing a comprehensive review of SOF culture and ethics 
last year.
    Among other things, the review concluded that SOCOM 
disproportionately focused on SOF employment and mission 
accomplishment at the expense of training and development of 
our force. In some cases, this imbalance has set conditions for 
unacceptable conduct to occur due to a lack of leadership, 
discipline, and accountability.
    General Clarke, I am interested in hearing more about the 
specific actions you have taken to address the findings of the 
comprehensive review and what more must be done.
    Turning to Cyber Command, General Nakasone, you have been 
working to mature the cyber force, ensuring their readiness, 
and overseeing the development of capabilities to conduct 
defensive, offensive, and supporting intelligence operations. I 
understand there are positive trends in all of these areas, but 
the threat to our cybersecurity may be advancing at an even 
faster rate.
    Indeed, recent disturbing cyber intrusions and attacks, 
likely conducted by Russia and China, will command attention in 
today's hearings.
    In the SolarWinds incident, hackers conducted a 
sophisticated operation that installed a backdoor and a 
software update that left approximately 18,000 enterprises 
vulnerable to exploitation and attacks, including many 
government agencies and companies that provide essential goods 
and services. We have recently learned that a Chinese entity 
exploited multiple previously unknown vulnerabilities in the 
software running Microsoft Exchange email servers and there are 
hundreds of thousands of these servers around the world. After 
Microsoft announced the breach and issued methods to protect 
it, multiple Chinese Government-sponsored hacking groups rushed 
to compromise thousands of vulnerable servers before they could 
be patched.
    A third event that merits attention is the reporting that 
China attacked the power grid in India during recent physical 
clashes the Himalayan border regions.
    General Nakasone, in the first two events, paid actors 
exploited vulnerabilities to steal data. While some may 
consider this tolerable and expected behavior from a competitor 
nation, others view the scope and scale of these operations as 
reckless and a different class that merits a sharp response, 
and I am interested in your views in this matter.
    In the matter of China's attack on the Indian power grid, 
which followed multiple Russian cyberattacks on Ukraine's power 
grid, there is a sense of growing willingness of adversaries to 
attack critical infrastructure in any serious confrontation; 
again, I am interested in your perceptions on this matter and 
if we need to be concerned about our Nation's critical 
infrastructure.
    I, again, want to thank the witnesses for their service and 
willingness to be here today, and I look forward to your 
testimony.
    Senator Inhofe, please?

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Great 
statement. I appreciate that and for calling this important 
hearing to examine the posture of the U.S. Special Operations 
Command and the U.S. Cyber Command.
    I also want to thank our witnesses for being here with us 
today. They are the right guys for this hearing.
    My top priority continues to be ensuring the effective 
implementation of the National Defense Strategy. We have been 
talking about that at almost every meeting that we have. It 
prioritizes competition with China and Russia, while 
maintaining pressure on global terrorist groups like ISIS, and 
I will have some specific questions on that at question time.
    As I said on the floor on Tuesday, we need to match the 
budget with strategy. It takes at least 3 to 5 percent real 
growth in the defense budget above inflation. It doesn't look 
like it is going to be easy to get to that point. We are going 
to have to keep trying.
    Military advancements and the expanding global ambitions by 
China and Russia pose new and increasingly complex challenges 
to our national security. In addition to growing their 
conventional military capabilities, China and Russia are 
expanding their use of irregular warfare tactics, involving 
cyber disinformation, proxy forces, and economic blackmail 
around the world.
    They have proven these tactics are effective in places like 
Ukraine, in Syria, in the South China Sea, and now they are 
exporting them to Africa and to the Western Hemisphere. As we 
discussed before, this reality makes implementation of the 
irregular warfare annex to the National Defense Strategy (NDS) 
critically important. It also requires that Special Operations 
Forces are organized, trained, and equipped to compete in this 
domain of warfare.
    At the same time, ISIS [the Islamic State of Iraq and 
Syria] and al Qaeda have proven resilient and still pose a 
threat. History has shown us that without sustained pressure, 
that threat will grow. I think we all understand that.
    I understand that President Biden is reviewing the U.S. 
counterterrorism policy, and according to media reports, has 
issued interim guidance, requiring the White House to sign off 
on operational military decisions that were previously 
delegated to the DOD [Department of Defense]. Let me be clear, 
I have serious concerns with the decision to return to the 
Obama era policies that tied the hands of our military 
commanders and made it harder to keep pressure on ISIS and al 
Qaeda. I expect this Committee will be consulted often during 
the administration's review. I have talked to the President 
about this and I believe that is going to happen.
    Another critical component of implementing the NDS is 
developing robust capabilities to counter growing threats in 
cyberspace. The 2018 Cyber Strategy provides a roadmap on how 
we are going to do this. Significant efforts have occurred in 
recent years across the DOD to implement the strategy and to 
build the capabilities of Cyber Command and the cyber mission 
forces.
    Today, I look forward to our witnesses' testimony in 
addressing these critical problems that are out there, and we 
are going to do all that we can to try to solve that. So, I 
appreciate this hearing and I think we will all benefit from 
it.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Mr. Maier, please?

 STATEMENT OF CHRISTOPHER P. MAIER, ACTING ASSISTANT SECRETARY 
  OF DEFENSE FOR SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND LOW-INTENSITY CONFLICT

    Mr. Maier. So, good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, and distinguished Members of the Committee. Thank you 
for the opportunity to testify on our global posture for 
America's Special Operations enterprise.
    I would also like to thank Congress and especially this 
Committee for its strong support for the SOF community and its 
mission. I am honored to testify alongside General Clarke and 
General Nakasone, who have dedicated their careers to 
safeguarding our Nation from complex and unconventional 
threats.
    I would like to begin by acknowledging the service and 
sacrifice of our special operations soldiers, sailors, airmen, 
marines, and civilians. Although SOF make up only about 3 
percent of the joint force, over the past 2 years, this 
community that has bore over half of all U.S. combat 
casualties. Many more have sustained life-altering injuries and 
suffer psychological trauma.
    As we look forward, Secretary Austin has outlined his three 
principle priorities for the Department of Defense. Those are: 
defend the Nation, take care of our people, and succeed through 
teamwork. The SOF community will measure ourselves against 
these priorities.
    Representing just 2 percent of the overall DOD budget, SOF 
played an essential role within the joint staff in advancing 
multiple strategic priorities for the Department and the 
Nation. We continue to adapt the unique capabilities and 
problem-solving expertise of our special operators through the 
challenge of great power competition with Russia and China, 
while strengthening the alliances and partnerships that enhance 
our ability to compete.
    As we innovate to compete more effectively below the level 
of armed conflict, we recognize that our counterterrorism 
operations, while still critical to protect Americans from the 
likes of ISIS and al Qaeda, must become even more sustainable 
and focused on the most pressing threats to our citizens and 
interests.
    Enhancing the readiness and resilience of our SOF warriors 
and their families remains a top priority. Despite the COVID-19 
pandemic, SOF have continued to maintain a high level of 
operational readiness. We remain focused on, and are making 
progress in, easing the strain of high rates of overseas 
deployments.
    I look forward to working with you and your staff to 
collectively continue to build the resiliency and culture of 
this community that has given so much in protecting us for 
nearly a generation.
    I also remain concerned about incidents of serious moral 
and ethical failings within the SOF community, a concern I know 
General Clarke shares. I commend him and Special Operations 
Command for leading a comprehensive review of SOF culture and 
ethics last year.
    Civilian-military partnership on all of these issues 
remains a key priority for me and my team. In response to 
Secretary Austin's challenge to us, we are also committed to 
enhancing diversity within the SOF community. As we compete 
against different and more capable adversaries, a more diverse 
force empowers us to draw upon broader perspectives, different 
lived experiences, and new ideas.
    Finally, we recognize the strong interest in Congress in 
empowering civilian leadership in the Department. We appreciate 
legislation in the most recent National Defense Authorization 
Act to codify and strengthen ASD SO/LIC's role. It is our 
collective duty to ensure these reforms meet your intents and 
serve the interests of the Department and the men and women of 
our SOF community.
    Mr. Chairman, I would like to conclude by thanking the 
Committee, again, for its strong support for our Special 
Operations team. Thank you for the opportunity to testify. I 
look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Maier follows:]

             Prepared Statement by Mr. Christopher P. Maier
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and other distinguished 
Members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify on 
our global posture for DOD's Special Operations Forces (SOF) 
Enterprise. As Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense (ASD) for Special 
Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict (SO/LIC), my remarks will focus 
on ASD SO/LIC's statutory responsibilities for administrative oversight 
of U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). I am honored to testify 
alongside General Clarke and General Nakasone. I greatly appreciate 
their decades of leadership and service in protecting the Nation's 
national security interests.
    I would like to begin by acknowledging the service, sacrifice, and 
success of our Special Operations soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, 
and civilians. U.S. SOF have played a critical role in every major 
conflict since the Second World War, and they remain in the fight 
today--conducting operations against ISIS, al Qaeda and its affiliates; 
working alongside partners and allies; and providing our Nation's 
leaders with flexible and rapid response options to a wide range of 
national security emergencies. Since the terrorist attacks of September 
11, our SOF community has established a remarkable record of 
achievement. From the overthrow of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan in 
December 2001, to the complex operations targeting the world's most 
notorious terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden, and to the 
extraordinary effort to eliminate the ISIS caliphate in Syria and Iraq, 
we owe our SOF community our deepest gratitude.
    Despite recent reductions in deployments, SOF remain at the 
forefront of U.S. combat operations, often operating in remote and 
hostile environments. Over the past 2 years, 15 members of the SOF 
formation were killed in combat operations. Although SOF make up only 
approximately three percent of the Joint Force, they have endured more 
than half of U.S. combat casualties during that period. Many more have 
sustained life-altering injuries or suffer from psychological trauma. 
The service and sacrifice of these men and women challenge us to live 
up to the high standards they embody.
    I would also like to thank Congress for your strong support of the 
SOF community as well as your predecessors and their foresight in 
recognizing the need to build and sustain special operations 
capabilities to respond to an increasingly complex threat environment. 
The Nunn-Cohen amendment that established USSOCOM and the position of 
ASD SO/LIC in 1986 was prescient in recognizing that future conflicts 
would be fought by both state and non-state actors and often through 
unconventional and irregular means. The authors of these reforms 
rightly understood that dedicated resources for Special Operations-
specific purposes were essential to promoting and sustaining these 
capabilities within the Department.
    My statement this morning will focus on how the SOF community is 
supporting Secretary Austin's three principal priorities as outlined in 
his March 3, 2021, ``Message to the Force''--1) Defend the Nation, 2) 
Take Care of Our People, and 3) Succeed through Teamwork. In the nearly 
two decades following the terrorist attacks of 9/11, SOF have continued 
to develop new technologies and capabilities to become the most 
effective counterterrorism (CT) force in history. Today, the SOF 
Enterprise is in the midst of a critical period of transition as the 
National Defense Strategy (NDS) and the Interim National Security 
Strategic Guidance (INSSG) challenges us to conduct counterterrorism 
operations more sustainably as we also adapt to the challenges of great 
power competition. At the same time, I am pleased to report that we 
have continued to improve the readiness of the force and reduce the 
strain of deployment on our SOF warriors and their families. Your 
leadership and support and have been, and will continue to be, 
essential in this effort.
                           defend the nation
    Representing approximately two percent of the DOD budget, SOF play 
a crucial role within the Joint Force in support of multiple DOD 
priorities, and the SOF community continues to make progress in 
adapting its capabilities to the challenge of great-power competition 
with Russia and China. I emphasize the word ``competition'' because 
just as the National Defense Strategy calls on us to develop 
traditional military capabilities to deter and respond to threats, we 
are also called to strengthen alliances, innovate, and compete more 
effectively below the level of armed conflict. Revisionist powers, 
rogue states, and non-state actors are actively pursuing 
unconventional, irregular, and asymmetric strategies to undermine U.S. 
strategic interests, erode democratic institutions, and destabilize and 
re-shape the post-WWII world order to their advantage, without 
provoking a U.S. conventional military response. Indeed, as the 
Department continues to strengthen our traditional military 
capabilities, we can expect that our adversaries will increasingly 
employ indirect and irregular approaches to achieve their strategic 
objectives to capitalize on asymmetries that work to their advantage.
    Thus, winning the competition is essential to achieving our near-
term strategic objectives, and to precluding a major conflict. This is 
not a theoretical battle to prepare for in the future. This is today's 
fight, and the SOF capabilities we have nurtured over the past 30 years 
are essential to successfully competing--and winning--in today's 
unconventional and irregular battlespaces. In close coordination with 
the Joint Staff, Services, and Combatant Commands, including USSOCOM, 
my office is leading the implementation of the Irregular Warfare (IW) 
Annex to the NDS to institutionalize the Department's approach to IW 
throughout the Joint Force and to operationalize it for great power 
competition and resource-sustainable counterterrorism. The IW Annex 
directs the Joint Force to embrace the potential for irregular warfare 
to shape great power competitors' behavior proactively to our 
advantage, create dilemmas to deter future aggression, and strengthen 
alliances and partnerships.
    As we adapt to meet the challenges of great power competition, we 
remain focused on ensuring CT operations are sustainable and focused on 
the most relevant threats to United States national security interests 
such as ISIS and al Qaeda and their affiliates that continue to pose a 
threat to Americans and United States interests around the globe. 
Continued U.S., allied, and partner nation pressure has helped prevent 
these groups from attacking the Homeland.
    Within this strategic context, and consistent with the INSSG, we 
continue to adapt our global posture and develop SOF-unique 
capabilities that enable our operators to compete and win in a wide 
variety of contingencies, including CT, crisis response, competition 
below the level of armed conflict, and as a force multiplier to the 
Joint Force if deterrence fails. Although our adversaries increasingly 
employ irregular warfare tactics, SOF support can ensure the
    Department does not depend only on high-end warfighting and 
deterrent capabilities. Today, approximately 40 percent of SOF deployed 
forces are tasked with countering malign influence of our great-power 
adversaries.
    Central to our irregular warfare efforts is a suite of legislative 
authorities that underpin our efforts to address these challenges 
alongside our international and interagency partners. We appreciate 
Congress's support for the extension and expansion of ``Section 1202'' 
authority to conduct irregular warfare operations and for the 
establishment of a new Title 10 funding authority for operational 
preparation of the environment activities in the National Defense 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021. Authorities such as these and 
Section 127e of Title 10 are cost-effective, agile ways for the United 
States to advance our security interests working by, with, and through 
partners.
    We continue to invest in technologies and capabilities to empower 
SOF to operate in denied areas and conduct high-risk operations in 
remote and austere environments, operate seamlessly with our general 
purpose force counterparts, and produce scalable precision effects. For 
instance, USSOCOM is developing next-generation Intelligence 
Surveillance and Reconnaissance capabilities to enhance situational 
awareness for the SOF warfighter, even in contested areas. Similarly, 
we are making investments to enhance SOF maritime capabilities, 
including surface combatant craft, submersibles, and unmanned 
underwater vehicles, and working with the Department of the Navy to 
ensure integration of SOF operational concepts and capability 
investments related to great power competition.
    USSOCOM is pursuing technological advancements designed to enhance 
network interoperability, enable secure communications for command and 
control, and employ data analytics, artificial intelligence (AI) and 
machine learning (ML) to enable our SOF to operate more effectively. In 
close collaboration with the Joint Artificial Intelligence Center, 
USSOCOM is adapting and employing AI to streamline a wide range of 
activities, such as intelligence analysis and operational functions. 
For instance, USSOCOM is leveraging AI/ML to optimize preventive 
maintenance for aircraft of the Army's 160th Special Operations 
Aviation Regiment (SOAR) that has demonstrated significant potential 
for increasing the operational readiness rate of the unit's fleet of 
aircraft.
    USSOCOM has also employed innovative acquisition pathways, 
including mid-tier acquisitions to execute tailored acquisition 
strategies and to streamline capability delivery to the warfighter. 
Additionally, USSOCOM is leveraging public-private partnerships and 
deepening relationships with academic institutions and non-traditional 
partners, including through its pilot project to expand small business 
participation in technology development to enhance SOF warfighting 
capabilities.
                        take care of our people
    Consistent with the clear priorities outlined in the NDS and the 
INSSG, we continue to invest in the readiness of the force and the 
resiliency of our SOF warriors and their families. Despite the unique 
challenges associated with the COVID-19 pandemic over the past year, 
SOF have continued to maintain a high level of operational readiness in 
support of strategic priorities. COVID-19-related restrictions on CONUS 
and OCONUS movements have reduced flight hours and training 
opportunities, particularly alongside our overseas partners. Although 
the number of forces deployed overseas is down approximately 15 percent 
over the past year, nearly 5,000 SOF are currently deployed to 62 
countries.
    In the years following the terrorist attacks of September 11, the 
high demand for SOF resulted in a near-constant cycle of deployments 
for some capabilities. To address the strain caused by that operational 
tempo, we have taken a hard look at the forces that we can responsibly 
and sustainably provide to support global demand amid multifaceted and 
simultaneous mission requirements. Over the past several years, we have 
made considerable progress toward meeting the Department's requirement 
of a 1:2 deployment-to-dwell ratio across the force, meaning that a 
typical service member would expect to spend twice as much time at home 
station as on deployment. We continue to make progress toward achieving 
this target with now more than 90 percent of the force at a 1:2 ratio 
or better.
    The additional dwell time spent at home station is not only 
contributing to increased predictability for the force and improved 
work-life balance, it is also enabling additional time for training, 
screening, rest, refit, and reintegration. USSOCOM has also continued 
to meet the Department's goal of fewer than five percent non-deployable 
military personnel.
    In addition to monitoring metrics of SOF readiness, we are closely 
evaluating how SOF posture relates to our ability to sustain CT and 
crisis response operations along with high-priority missions. We are 
also focused on limiting SOF deployments to those that require SOF-
specific capabilities and training. For instance, the establishment of 
the Army's Security Force Assistance Brigade has provided a capable 
General Purpose Force option for training and mentoring foreign 
security forces. The combination of these efforts has helped ease the 
strain of a high and unsustainable rate of overseas deployments for SOF 
personnel.
    In addition to reducing the strain on the force due to high 
operational tempo, the SOF Enterprise is further enhancing readiness by 
taking a holistic approach to caring for SOF warriors and their 
families. With the strong support of Congress, USSOCOM has continued to 
develop its Preservation of the Force and Families (POTFF) program to 
address SOF-unique challenges and to optimize physical, psychological, 
social, and spiritual performance. The POTFF program leverages a 
combination of USSOCOM, Service, and DOD resources to meet the needs of 
the various SOF components and individual unit commanders. These 
programs include injury prevention/strength training, performance 
nutrition, rehabilitative care, improved access to behavioral health 
and suicide prevention, family and community programs, promoting 
healthy living, and reinforcing resiliency and spiritual fitness.
    Participation in the POTFF human performance program and 
neurocognitive baselining are now mandatory for all USSOCOM personnel. 
Our SOF warriors recognize POTFF as an invaluable resource for their 
readiness and career longevity, and data collected from our SOF 
commanders indicates that the program is having a significant and 
positive impact on the mission readiness of their units. SO/LIC is 
currently collaborating with the command to develop standardized and 
quantitative outcome metrics to help inform future resourcing 
decisions, and we look forward to working closely with the Committee to 
ensure we are achieving a solid return on this investment in our 
personnel.
    Similarly, USSOCOM's Warrior Care program continues to provide 
specialized care for soldiers who have suffered physical or 
psychological trauma by providing SOF members and their families 
support through recovery, rehabilitation, and reintegration. We have no 
greater responsibility than to care for our SOF warriors and to provide 
them with a path to return to service and/or transition to civilian 
careers following their years of service. We appreciate the strong 
support of Congress for each of these efforts.
    I remain concerned about instances of moral and ethical failings 
within the SOF community, and I know General Clarke shares this 
concern. Incidents such as these have no place in the military or our 
Department, and if not tackled head-on can erode morale and undermine 
trust and our moral authority with our partners and allies. I commend 
General Clarke for his initiative in directing a comprehensive review 
of SOF culture and ethics beginning in August 2019. The review was 
directed to address shortfalls and limitations of multiple previous 
studies and to build upon them to address enterprise-wide issues and to 
analyze data from across the SOF Enterprise.
    SO/LIC strongly supported this effort, and SO/LIC personnel 
actively participated in the review, which entailed conducting in-depth 
interviews with approximately 2,000 personnel of all ranks within more 
than 50 SOF commands. Although the comprehensive review did not 
identify evidence of a systemic ethics deficiency, it did note that 
``in some instances USSOCOM's cultural focus on SOF employment and 
mission accomplishment is to the detriment of leadership, discipline 
and accountability,'' and it outlined concrete recommendations. My 
office is now helping to guide the Comprehensive Review Implementation 
Team, established to drive implementation of the review's 
recommendations. These recommendations address training and 
organization of the force, leader development, and the prevention of 
over-exertion on the force that we believe contributes in part to 
ethical lapses.
    As we address challenges related to SOF culture and ethics, 
Secretary Austin has placed special emphasis on combatting sexual 
assault and addressing actions associated with extremist or dissident 
ideologies within the Department. The men and women who make up the SOF 
Enterprise deserve nothing less than a safe and supportive work 
environment--free from intimidation, harassment, and racial and 
cultural bias of any kind. We recognize that extremist ideology exists 
within our military, and we must ensure that our service members honor 
the oaths they have taken to uphold and defend our Constitution against 
all enemies--foreign and domestic. For this reason, Secretary Austin 
directed a Department-wide stand-down to allow senior leaders to 
discuss the importance of our oath of office, impermissible behaviors, 
and procedures for reporting extremist behaviors. I am committed to 
working hand-in-hand with General Clarke in leading this effort on 
behalf of the SOF community, ensuring that our efforts are closely 
aligned with top-level guidance and actions and policies taken by the 
Department and the Military Services.
    We recognize that many of the solutions have not yet been fully 
implemented and that true cultural change will require a sustained and 
focused effort over many years. I look forward to working with you and 
your staff as we strengthen the foundation of our culture and ethics 
throughout the SOF Enterprise. SO/LIC will continue to support this 
effort by focusing on those actions that fall within our administrative 
role overseeing the organization and training of SOF personnel and 
ensuring these efforts are adequately resourced. Working closely with 
USSOCOM and each of the Services, we will continue to develop and 
sustain a SOF culture of personal accountability that is worthy of the 
men and women that constitute our force.
    We are similarly focused on enhancing the diversity within our SOF 
formation. As it stands today, our force is not adequately reflective 
of the American people. In addition to the moral imperative of 
addressing this challenge, we recognize that a more diverse force makes 
us more effective operationally by allowing us to draw upon diverse 
perspectives and talents and new ideas to enable us to prevail in the 
global contest for influence and legitimacy we are faced with today. 
Enhancing diversity within the force will become increasingly important 
as the Department places greater emphasis on operations in the 
information environment against foreign disinformation and malign 
influence.
    Over the past year, ASD(SO/LIC) served on the Executive Working 
Group as part of the Department of Defense's Board on Diversity and 
Inclusion. A SOF officer on my staff sat on the DOD Board on Diversity 
and Inclusion to ensure that special operations-unique issues were 
reflected and considered as part of the overarching DOD efforts. Last 
year, SO/LIC, in partnership with USSOCOM's Commander and Senior 
Enlisted Leader, issued a memorandum to all SOF personnel emphasizing 
that diversity and inclusion is a strategic imperative to the mission 
of SOF. I co-chair, along with the USSOCOM Vice Commander, the SOF 
Executive Committee on Diversity and Inclusion to oversee and drive the 
development and execution of the USSOCOM Diversity and Inclusion 
Strategic Plan. I am pleased that USSOCOM has recently hired its first 
Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer, and I look forward to working 
with the command as we collectively address this challenge.
    In addition to addressing racial and cultural diversity within the 
SOF formation, we are also working to ensure that all SOF career fields 
are open to all who have the desire and meet the rigorous standards. 
Women have filled vital roles within the SOF community for many years, 
and we are proud that in the past year, two women have for the first 
time successfully completed the Special Forces Qualification Course and 
are currently serving as Green Berets. Although we recognize that we 
have much more progress to make in this area, these talented soldiers 
have blazed a path that we expect many others will follow.
    Addressing each of these challenges will require a multifaceted, 
sustained approach, with a clear strategy, concrete objectives, and 
measurable benchmarks. Additionally, the continued institutionalization 
of ASD(SO/LIC)'s role in the administrative chain of command will 
provide additional avenues to highlight policy and resource issues 
affecting SOF, including diversity, ethics, and accountability. For 
instance, regularly occurring readiness briefings from USSOCOM to 
ASD(SO/LIC) now address sexual assault and harassment prevention and 
response, domestic violence, suicide prevention, COVID-19 vaccination 
rates, and accession/promotion by sex and ethnicity. SO/LIC brings 
unique perspective to these challenges, and you have my commitment that 
we will remain fully engaged.
                        succeed through teamwork
    Secretary Austin's Message to the Force challenges us to join 
forces with our partners and allies; work in partnership across U.S. 
Departments and Agencies, with Congress, and with private industry; and 
to build unity of effort and missions throughout the Department, 
including strengthening civil-military cooperation. The men and women 
of the SOF community excel in building strong and lasting partnerships, 
including with our foreign, interagency, and private industry partners. 
SO/LIC and USSOCOM continue to deepen our civilian-military 
collaboration across a wide range of issues, including SOF personnel 
and readiness, budget and acquisitions, special access programs, and 
legislative affairs.
    Civilian control of the military is a bedrock principle of our 
democracy, and strengthening civilian institutions within the 
Department is a key priority of Secretary Austin. As the Secretary 
testified before this Committee in his confirmation hearing, ``the 
safety and security of our democracy demands competent civilian control 
of our armed forces . . . the subordination of military power to the 
civil.'' We also recognize and appreciate the Congress's strong 
interest in empowering civilian leadership, both within the Special 
Operations community and throughout the Department.
    The continued institutionalization of the ASD(SO/LIC)'s role in the 
administrative chain of command, as codified in Title 10, is one of 
many examples where the Department is making progress in empowering 
civilian leadership, oversight, and advocacy within the Department's 
decision-making mechanisms. Over the past year, we have made progress 
in strengthening civilian oversight of SOF, but we recognize that more 
remains to be done to realize the full intent of recent legislative 
reforms to strengthen the ASD(SO/LIC)'s role and to establish the 
Secretariat for Special Operations. Recent actions include designating 
ASD(SO/LIC) as a Principal Staff Assistant to the Secretary of Defense 
for Special Operations administrative matters, establishing a position 
of Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense to lead the Secretariat and to 
assist the ASD with those responsibilities. The ASD(SO/LIC) also has 
been added to numerous senior Departmental decision-making bodies, in 
many instances marking the first time the SOF Enterprise has had 
representation and a voice in these discussions and decisions.
    Enhanced civilian leadership and oversight are essential to 
advocating for SOF within the Department and tackling key issues 
affecting the SOF Enterprise. These elements also help ensure an 
independent and objective assessment of military capabilities and 
policy issues. Further institutionalization of the ASD(SO/LIC)'s 
administrative chain of command responsibilities will require continued 
close coordination with senior DOD leadership, USSOCOM, and Congress. I 
fully embrace this role, and I also recognize that there is more work 
ahead as we fulfill Congress's intent. As these efforts mature, I look 
forward to working with you, General Clarke, and other DOD senior 
leaders to ensure that these reforms meet the intent of Congress and 
serve the interests of the Department and the men and women of our SOF 
community.
                               conclusion
    Mr. Chairman, I would like to conclude by thanking the Committee 
again for its strong support for our special operations personnel, who 
serve as a critical linchpin in safeguarding our national security--in 
wartime and peacetime. As an integral component of the Joint Force, SOF 
bring unique capabilities that complement and strengthen those of our 
general purpose forces as well as our interagency and international 
partners.
    I thank the Committee again for the opportunity to testify, and I 
look forward to your questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Maier.
    General Clarke, please?

STATEMENT OF GENERAL RICHARD D. CLARKE, USA, COMMANDER, UNITED 
               STATES SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND

    General Clarke. Chairman Reed, Senator Inhofe, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity, and I am honored to testify with Mr. Chris Maier 
and General Paul Nakasone. Also joining me is Chief Greg Smith, 
my command senior enlisted leader. Greg marked his thirty-first 
year in uniform this month and I am thankful for his continued 
counsel and leadership as he represents the almost 50,000 
enlisted operators in our force.
    USSOCOM, our structure, our authorities, and our purpose 
are the direct outcome of Congress and, in particular, this 
Committee. We strive to honor Congress' vision by training and 
employing the world's finest Special Operations Force, a team 
that is inclusive and professional, supremely competent and 
trusted, and reflective of American diversity and values, and 
most of all, committed to our constitutional oath.
    The incredible women and men of this command employ their 
unique skills globally, fully integrated with the joint force, 
and aligned with national priorities. SOF continue to deter and 
disrupt persistent threats by terrorist and extremist 
organizations. Twenty years of this fight have honed our 
capability and, most importantly, our resolve.
    We remain oriented on these threats with approaches that 
are both, effective and sustainable, to defend the Homeland and 
our American people; additionally, we are well-postured within 
the joint force to compete against malign state influence. SOF 
provide unique value in this critical endeavor.
    Below the level of armed conflict, SOF teams support a wide 
range of United States policy objectives and generate options 
to counter China, Russia, and other competitors. Often, our 
activities to counter violent extremist organizations have 
tangible, derivative value to counter terrorist, extremist 
organizations.
    As SOF forged partnerships and built partner capacity, we 
gain access, placement, and influence in contested regions. 
Should future conflicts arise, our modernization priorities 
will provide interoperable forces that are able to win as part 
of the joint war-fighting concept.
    Your continued support and the vital trust of the American 
people allow this command to support the Nation now and prepare 
for the challenges of tomorrow. Today, as we sit here, nearly 
5,000 special operators stand vigilant in almost 60 countries. 
Their commitment to American security and prosperity is 
inspirational, and their enthusiasm to learn, adapt, and serve 
is infectious.
    It is my honor to lead them and I look forward to answering 
your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Clarke follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Richard D. Clarke
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, thank you for providing this opportunity to discuss the 
posture of the U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). I am proud to 
testify alongside Mr. Christopher Maier, Acting Assistant Secretary of 
Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict (ASD(SO/
LIC)), and General Paul Nakasone, Commander of U.S. Cyber Command 
(USCYBERCOM).
    The unwavering support of Congress, particularly this Committee, 
has ensured that our Nation's special operations forces (SOF) are the 
most capable in the world. Your support remains essential to our 
efforts to defend the Nation, care for our people, and strengthen 
alliances and partnerships. Your SOF remain engaged globally, ensuring 
violent extremists have no respite, while setting advantageous 
conditions across all domains to compete with adversaries. We are ready 
to meet today's requirements, while adapting to address tomorrow's 
challenges.
    Today, I present an account of USSOCOM priorities, activities, and 
investments to provide the Nation with peerless SOF talent, tactics, 
and technologies. Each of you are keenly interested in how we are 
building a professional force, caring for our people, defending our 
Nation forward, and modernizing for the future. I will address each of 
these concerns.
    The current strategic landscape comprises a complex set of problems 
presented by nation-state competitors and violent extremist 
organizations. Overmatch in strategic deterrence, conventional military 
force, and space and cyberspace capabilities are unequivocal 
necessities. However, our overmatch compels competitors to seek 
asymmetric avenues to attack, erode, or undermine the advantage and 
interests of the United States, our allies, and partners. Many of these 
challenges take place in the information space, with disinformation 
employed as a political weapon at unimaginable speed and scale without 
regard for geopolitical boundaries. These concerns are further 
amplified by disruptive, destabilizing impacts of climate change, 
diminished influence of international institutions, and shifts in 
global power dynamics.
    SOF are problem solvers, and their enduring value resides in their 
ability to adapt and combat asymmetric threats; employ precision and 
surprise to achieve strategic effects in conflict or crisis; and build 
access, placement, and influence through sustained partnership with 
foreign forces--all providing discrete options when conventional action 
is impractical. Our team extends beyond operators in the field, to a 
wide array of military and interagency support, as well as our 
unassailable partnership with ASD(SO/LIC). The oversight, policy 
guidance, and advocacy within the DOD provided by ASD(SO/LIC) are 
essential for the modernization, readiness, and wellbeing of SOF and 
their families.
    The COVID-19 pandemic challenged our readiness in unexpected ways. 
Disciplined enforcement of DOD risk mitigation strategies has largely 
protected our uniformed, civilian, and contractor populations. The 
postponement of several major exercises and a majority of fiscal year 
2020 Joint Combined Exchange Training events has been unfortunate, but 
barring long-term disruption, our joint interoperability and 
multinational partnerships remain strong. We appreciate the CARES Act 
funding from Congress that enabled us to reduce immediate risk through 
distribution of protective equipment and improved telework systems.
    To address current and future strategic challenges, SOF are aligned 
with the priorities set forth in the 2018 National Defense Strategy 
(NDS) and newly published Interim National Security Strategic Guidance. 
The full range of USSOCOM's operational and institutional efforts 
coalesce within three broad objectives: strengthen our force and their 
families, enable the Joint Force to compete and win globally, and 
innovate to transform for the future.
                   strengthen our force and families
    The primacy of our people is central to the success of every 
endeavor. These competent and creative men and women stand ready to 
adapt and evolve to be the SOF the Nation needs to meet any challenge. 
Our commitment to advancing professionalism, improving policy to 
acquire and groom the right talent, and caring for the health and 
welfare of our teammates underpins every organizational decision.
               advancing professionalism and credibility
    Last year, USSOCOM and ASD(SO/LIC) provided Congress the results of 
our Comprehensive Review which identified opportunities to improve our 
force and address lapses in leadership, accountability, and discipline. 
Our Comprehensive Review Implementation Team used that assessment to 
make institutional adjustments that promote active and engaged 
leadership at all levels accountable for force governance, leader 
development, sustainable tempo, and behavior reflective of 
Constitutional and Service values. Our forthcoming report submission to 
Congress will provide details on each of our actions thus far. This is 
a long-term, institutional approach, and we will see this process 
through to make our force better.
    Furthermore, the urgent need to remove the scourges of sexual 
assault and extremism within the force has our full attention. USSOCOM 
supports DOD and Service policies on sexual assault and harassment that 
have improved reporting processes and victim advocacy. With maturing 
response and victim support systems, we are applying focused leadership 
toward prevention. Our SOF components are implementing tailored 
programs to promote a climate and culture intolerant of these abuses, 
committed to identifying and removing predators, and able to rapidly 
identify and address shortfalls.
    Extremist and dissident ideologies conflict with our Constitutional 
obligations and corrode cohesion, discipline, and public trust. USSOCOM 
is fully engaged in DOD's effort to remove behaviors that promote 
discrimination, hate, or harassment. We are working closely with the 
DOD and Services to engage service members at all levels to ensure the 
force is undivided in their commitment to defend the Constitution 
against all enemies foreign and domestic.
                 managing and welcoming diverse talent
    In 1999, a RAND study identified barriers to the participation of 
women and minorities. Since that study twenty-two years ago, we have 
made limited progress in fully opening those doors. The past few years 
have provided the momentum and support to correct this problem for 
future generations. We continue to see positive movement with the 
contributions of women leaders in all four Service Component Commands 
and the selection of the first African American officers to command a 
Navy SEAL Team and a Ranger Battalion. However, these steps are not 
sufficient as we envision a force that better reflects the society it 
defends.
    We need men and women of all ethnicities and races along with a 
diversity of backgrounds and beliefs in our formation. Improving 
diversity and inclusion in our force is an operational imperative. In a 
force charged with solving multifaceted problems in a complex global 
environment, service members who are included, respected, and empowered 
are more ready to deter aggression and win wars. We developed a five-
year Diversity and Inclusion Strategy and hired a Chief Diversity and 
Inclusion Officer. Together, USSOCOM and ASD (SO/LIC) chair the SOF 
Executive Committee on Diversity and Inclusion ensuring senior leader 
oversight and engagement to keep us accountable for tangible progress 
over time. We are absolutely committed to finding and removing barriers 
where they exist, and welcome all service members who have the desire 
and aptitude to pursue a career in SOF.
    In addition to diversity of background, the current and next era of 
competition and conflict require different skills, specifically in 
artificial intelligence (AI) and digital technologies. In fiscal year 
2020, our AI-Ready Workforce initiative took two steps forward in 
growing data-savvy leaders and technology experts inside SOF. First, in 
collaboration with Carnegie Mellon University and the DOD's Joint AI 
Center, we educated hundreds of senior and midgrade SOF leaders on 
basic AI principles and ethics. Second, USSOCOM welcomed our first 
cohort of data science interns. The program exposes talented students 
and graduates to SOF problems and harnesses their creativity and 
technical skill in developing AI solutions for the force. We are 
working with DOD to expand these programs and find flexible means to 
exchange talent with industry and academia to supplement the organic 
growth of AI-ready service members.
                  growing a healthy and resilient team
    USSOCOM continues to build on the successes of the Preservation of 
the Force and Family (POTFF) initiative and the Warrior Care Program 
(WCP). The POTFF program gained early traction and notice through its 
work with physical readiness; however, 62 percent of the POTFF team's 
manpower now supports the psychological and cognitive performance of 
SOF. Today, the program continues to increase its focus on brain health 
and cognitive performance to address the growing cognitive load on 
operators facing technologically advanced adversaries and information-
rich battlespaces. Not only must we build resilience, we must care for 
those in need, and we have no more sacred duty than to care for our 
wounded, injured, and ill teammates.
    Since 2005, the USSOCOM Warrior Care Program (WCP), also referred 
to as the Care Coalition, has led this vital effort. Over the WCP's 16-
year lifespan, 72 percent of wounded SOF have been retained in military 
service, with 61 percent returning to duty inside their original 
occupational specialty. This remarkable achievement has only been 
possible with Congress's continued support for these programs.
    Lastly, USSOCOM has not diverted our attention from the crucial 
problem of suicide within our ranks. In 2020, we lost teammates to 
suicide and saw teammates hospitalized for suicide attempts. We are 
seeing a slight reduction in suicides among SOF; however, any suicide 
is an unacceptable loss of life. We continue to work closely with DOD 
and the Services to apply engaged leadership, education, and training 
resources to prevent these tragedies.
                        compete and win globally
    Special operations capabilities are essential tools to address both 
violent extremist threats and strategic competition with other states. 
Counterterrorism (CT) and Countering Violent Extremist Organizations 
(C-VEO) remains a priority mission for SOF, but we do not allow these 
missions to prevent us from also responding to the other threats facing 
the Nation. USSOCOM fluidly prioritizes force employment to build 
readiness, strategic flexibility, and apply unique SOF capabilities 
judiciously, in concert with the Joint Force and Interagency, to 
counter and impose cost on the malign activities of adversaries.
    Today, we have nearly five thousand SOF deployed to 62 countries. 
We continue to streamline direct C-VEO investments abroad and rebalance 
SOF to force generation, modernization, and Great Power Competition 
(GPC) activities. Our deployed forces are down 15 percent from last 
year--the lowest since 2001, and in fiscal year 2021, nearly 40 percent 
of our deployed forces will focus on GPC requirements. In the coming 
year, we expect to achieve a sustainable balance of deployed forces 
across both C-VEO and GPC mission sets and reach the DOD's directed 1:2 
deployment-to-dwell ratio for all SOF.
                       sustainable c-veo pressure
    Violent Extremism remains a threat to our national interests and 
the safety of our people. Drivers of extremist violence exist in deep, 
multigenerational ideological divisions that cannot be overcome quickly 
or with military force. This problem will persist, and USSOCOM is 
committed to a sustainable approach to C-VEO focused on threats that 
exhibit both intent and capability to export violence transregionally, 
specifically against the Homeland, while building burden-sharing 
partnerships that enable local and regional leaders to manage others. 
Additionally, USSOCOM fulfills our role as the DOD's Coordinating 
Authority for C-VEO by producing a quarterly VEO threat assessment that 
uses our inherently global outlook C-VEO engagement across multiple 
Geographic Combatant Commander (GCC) areas of responsibility (AORs) to 
inform department-wide policy, priorities, and activities.
    Over the past year, USSOCOM has assumed moderate but acceptable 
risk to C-VEO capacity as we rebalance the force for modernization, 
readiness, and strategic competition. Despite these constraints, our 
unified action with joint, interagency, and multinational partners 
continues to illuminate terrorist attack planning, track illicit 
financing, and sustain pressure on transregional networks, all while 
meeting directed reductions in troop presence across multiple theaters. 
In Afghanistan, our forces continue to dismantle remnants of al-Qaeda 
(AQ) and Islamic State (ISIS) leadership and support the ongoing peace 
process. In Iraq, we continue to support multinational pressure on 
pockets of ISIS leaders and fighters while building the capacity of our 
partners in the Iraqi Security Forces. The information sharing model of 
Operation Gallant Phoenix continues to enable allies and partners to 
prosecute violent extremists. While we realize success on multiple 
fronts, challenges linger.
    Capable terrorist leaders continue to operate in portions of 
Afghanistan. Despite losing territory and momentum, ISIS has avenues to 
reconstitute and spread transregional violence if pressure is abated. 
Violent extremism among internally displaced persons is a major 
security concern in the Middle East. In east Africa, VEOs remain a 
destabilizing force, reliable local partners are limited, and remotely 
delivering sustainable, effective pressure is problematic. In many 
remote areas, intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance (ISR) and 
close air support assets are stretched thin and come at high cost, and 
we continue to work with DOD to address this issue.
                      sof in strategic competition
    Competition among states remains a constant strategic consideration 
across multiple regions, and we must adapt to maintain advantage. Since 
their inception, modern SOF have contributed to this contest through 
the aperture of irregular warfare. These capabilities are as relevant 
today as they were at the onset of the Cold War. USSOCOM continues to 
rebalance SOF training, activities, and investments to better enable 
the Joint Force to compete below the threshold of armed conflict. For 
SOF, this requires us to reinforce core competencies in irregular 
warfare, foreign partner capacity building, clandestine activities, and 
information operations.
    As the United States seeks to reinvigorate and modernize our 
alliances and partnerships to counter China, Russia, and other powers, 
SOF will play a central role. The ``by, with, and through'' approach 
inherent in SOF operations, coupled with our global C-VEO partnerships, 
information operations, and Counter Threat Finance authorities and 
expertise, present opportunities to maintain advantage. Our C-VEO 
activities provide cross-cutting value as SOF illuminate adversary 
activities, interests, and illicit finances and inform U.S. strategy 
and whole-of-government efforts. With U.S. SOF as the partner of choice 
for C-VEO, we will continue to capitalize on these investments that 
build credible partners and gain access and influence abroad to counter 
competitor ambitions and malign activities.
    Information technology is another instrument used by our 
competitors, allowing countries like China and Russia to exploit and 
manipulate populations across the globe. As the DOD's Joint Proponent 
for Military Information Support Operations (MISO) and Coordinating 
Authority for Internet-based MISO, USSOCOM is positioning our 
psychological operations forces for today's environment. The Joint MISO 
WebOps Center (JMWC) is our flagship effort to coordinate MISO 
conducted via the internet and actively engage foreign audiences to 
expose, counter, and compete with hostile propaganda and disinformation 
online. In 2021, we will incorporate our first foreign partners and 
interagency liaisons.
    The collaborative, mutually supporting relationship among the 
functional combatant commands is essential to maintaining U.S. 
advantage. These commands have global perspective and are well-
positioned to observe our competitors' regional activities and goals 
across all domains. One example is USSOCOM's role as DOD's Coordinating 
Authority for Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction (CWMD), in which 
we focus on improving Joint Force readiness to mitigate risk posed by 
WMDs and supporting unified approaches to countering proliferation of 
WMDs and related technologies, materials, and expertise.
    Finally, we are grateful for a range of authorities granted by 
Congress that allow SOF to have outsized impact across multiple mission 
sets. Operations conducted under 10 USC Sec.  127e (CT) provide 
flexible options to apply CT pressure in otherwise inaccessible or 
contested areas, and operations under fiscal year 2018 NDAA Sec.  1202 
(Irregular Warfare) are essential for applying SOF capabilities to 
illuminate and impose cost on malign actors. Additionally, authorities 
under 10 USC Sec.  127f (Intelligence / Counter-Intelligence) and 
fiscal year 2020 NDAA Sec.  1057 (Clandestine Operational Preparation 
of the Environment) replaced the Emergency and Extraordinary Expense 
authorization allowing application of SOF capability with greater 
efficiency and transparency.
                         innovate to transform
    Our SOF must modernize to compete and win. Guided by DOD priorities 
and operating concepts, SOF are divesting of legacy platforms that fail 
to provide increased value across GPC and C-VEO mission sets. Over the 
last five budget cycles, USSOCOM has realigned 14 percent (roughly $9B) 
of its Total Obligation Authority to modernizing SOF. We are focused on 
capability development improvements, digital age changes, and business 
administration reforms.
          modernizing capability development and acquisitions
    The acquisitions authorities given to USSOCOM by Congress are 
indispensable in modernizing SOF capabilities. Our SOF Acquisitions, 
Technology, and Logistics team works tirelessly to improve the 
lethality, survivability, and sustainment of our operators and special-
operations-peculiar equipment. Our research, development, and 
acquisition priorities center on adapting emerging technologies to 
empower hyper-enabled operators and teams. Our initiatives seek to 
accelerate gains in our ability to provide power, protection, and force 
projection at the tactical edge.
    Over the years, SOF have been an incubator and testbed for new 
technology, and USSOCOM continues as a pathfinder for select 
capabilities. In fiscal year 2020, we achieved notable returns across 
multiple programs, including modernization of AC-130 and MC-130 
platforms, fielding of next-generation software-enabled tactical 
radios, and successful combat tests of suitable Precision Strike 
missile prototypes. For future combat platforms, USSOCOM is working 
closely with the Services to introduce SOF requirements into the 
development process. Our collaborative work with the U.S. Army's Future 
Vertical Lift initiative is an exceptional example. By synchronizing 
requirements early, SOF will receive next generation systems that 
require minimal modification, and the Joint Force will save on 
sustainment and upgrade costs.
    Critical SOF capability gaps still exist, and Congressional support 
is essential in delivering these assets to reduce risk for our 
operators and bolster SOF's ability to complement conventional 
capabilities in competition. To provide sustainable support to C-VEO 
operations, we are working with the U.S. Air Force to develop the Armed 
Overwatch program. This program will provide cost-effective, 
multipurpose aircraft to support operations in remote, austere areas 
for the foreseeable future. Additionally, we are working with the U.S. 
Navy to modernize Naval Special Warfare undersea warfare capabilities 
central to GPC. These include wet and dry submersibles, unmanned 
options, and offshore delivery solutions to provide coastal subsurface 
clandestine activities and access.
                    modernizing a digital age force
    To compete in the current environment, we need world-class talent 
enabled by cutting-edge data management, software, and AI. USSOCOM is 
committed to serving as a vanguard for the integration of AI in mission 
command, intelligence analysis, and operations processes. Our newly 
published strategies for data and digital network architecture align 
with DOD's vision and advance a path toward greater data processing, 
network interoperability, and security in contested environments. 
Digital transformation, multi-domain data search and discovery, and 
cross-domain data solutions are USSOCOM critical priorities. 
Incorporating these capabilities with AI at the tactical edge within a 
secure, reliable cloud-computing framework is essential for competing 
with our adversaries across multiple domains. We are working closely 
with USCYBERCOM, DOD leadership, and the Services to develop and 
implement these solutions.
    We are building a wide range of partnerships to explore the 
potential of data-driven technologies. Our work with the DOD's Project 
Maven and multiple service-led initiatives have expanded our 
understanding of data collection and algorithm development to support 
the warfighter and lay the initial groundwork for future AI 
integration. Some of our newest partnerships focus on using AI to study 
cognitive performance and brain health. We are investing in AI 
technologies with goals to boost intelligence analysis and reduce 
overhead for ISR processing, exploitation, and dissemination; 
accelerate identification and response to online disinformation; 
improve reporting and decision making at the tactical level; enhance 
predictive maintenance and logistics; and optimize human performance.
                  modernizing business administration
    USSOCOM is steadfast in improving efficiency, costs, and 
transparency in business administration, auditability, and capability 
development. In fiscal year 2020, we completed our third financial 
statement audit and developed a roadmap aligned with DOD and Service 
plans to obtain a clean audit opinion by fiscal year 2028. 
Additionally, USSOCOM continues to reduce low-return activities and 
reallocate funds toward SOF, Joint Warfighting, and DOD strategic 
competition priorities.
    We have also taken action to balance the SOF portfolio to address 
national priorities and SOF capabilities that will remain in high 
demand. In depth reviews of deployed forces and regionally aligned 
headquarters are reducing pressure on the force and allowing our teams 
to focus on priority tasks to build long-term readiness, assist the 
joint force in competition, and experiment for greater 
interoperability. Most importantly, these reviews are now integrated 
with the DOD's routine force management processes. These changes better 
posture USSOCOM to meet the full range of national priorities.
    Our acquisitions team continues to be a defense leader in applying 
Middle Tier Acquisitions and Other Transactional Agreement authorities 
provided by Congress, and we have had continued success in leveraging 
our SOFWERX platform via a Partnership Intermediary Agreement. SOFWERX 
enhances USSOCOM's ability to collaborate and connect with a diverse 
network of small, non-traditional companies, labs, scientists and 
academia. The fiscal year 2020 NDAA Sec.  851 authorization to use this 
platform to improve our interactions with Small Businesses through the 
Small Business Innovation Research pilot program has been especially 
effective. Since the pilot implementation, we have awarded 17 contracts 
with results that matter to both DOD and industry: a 200 percent 
increase in small business participation, 80 percent reduction in total 
contracting time, and 60 percent decrease in the time from initial 
award to prototype delivery.
                               conclusion
    In closing, USSOCOM is committed to providing the best trained and 
equipped SOF to support the Nation. We are actively realigning our 
operations, activities, and investments to align with NDS priorities 
and the operational needs of the GCCs, maintaining sustainable pressure 
on priority C-VEO threats while enabling the Joint Force to maintain 
advantage in competition, respond in crisis, and win in conflict. We 
are modernizing and innovating for the future, updating our 
organizational structures and processes for improved performance and 
affordability. Most importantly, we are staying true to our first SOF 
Truth--``Humans are more important than hardware''--by investing in our 
people, ensuring a trusted, capable, diverse, and committed force that 
is ready to meet any challenge. We are thankful to Congress for the 
foresight in creating USSOCOM many years ago, for trusting and 
sustaining this command as we developed a peerless force, and for your 
continued support for this truly special cohort of men and women who 
volunteer to undertake the most complex, challenging, and dangerous 
missions in defense of our great nation.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Clarke.
    General Nakasone, please?

STATEMENT OF GENERAL PAUL M. NAKASONE, COMMANDER, UNITED STATES 
 CYBER COMMAND; DIRECTOR, NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY; AND CHIEF, 
                    CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE

    General Nakasone. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, I am honored to be here 
and to testify beside Acting Assistant Secretary Maier, and my 
good friend, General Rich Clarke. I am joined today by 
CYBERCOM's senior enlisted leader, Command Sergeant Major 
Sheryl Lyon.
    Entering our Army as an Arab linguist, Command Sergeant 
Major Lyon's 30-year career with airborne, special mission, and 
intelligence and cyber units makes her uniquely qualified to 
serve as USCYBERCOM and NSA's senior enlisted leader.
    Over the past year, I emphasized the importance of 
defending the election against foreign interference. We did 
this through the Election Security Group, a combined team from 
U.S. Cyber Command and the National Security Agency. We built 
on the lessons from earlier operations and honed partnerships 
with the Federal Bureau of Investigations and Department of 
Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security 
Agency, sharing information with those who needed it as fast as 
possible.
    We also worked with the National Guard Bureau to create a 
mechanism that enabled Guard units to share information about 
incidents quickly, easily, and uniformly.
    U.S. Cyber Command conducted more than 2 dozen operations 
to get ahead of foreign threats before they interfered or 
influenced our elections in 2020. Three points stand out to me. 
First, U.S. Cyber Command must be, and is, able, ready, and 
willing to act. Second, USCYBERCOM's partnership with NSA 
remains the foundation of our success, and thirdly, we enable 
our domestic industry allies and partners by providing 
critical-threat information and insights which improve their 
ability to act under their unique authorities.
    I am proud of the work the command and the Election 
Security Group performed as part of a broader government effort 
to deliver a safe and secure 2020 election.
    CYBERCOM is building on a recent guidance from the 
Department seeking to promote readiness, improve training, and 
attract and retain high-end talent. Regarding readiness, 
CYBERCOM is improving its ability to monitor the status of 
forces provided by the services down to the team, mission 
element, and even individual levels.
    CYBERCOM is expanding, enhancing the training that our 
personnel receive.
    As the trailblazer for the Department of Defense's Cyber 
Excepted Service, the Command benefits from flexible hiring 
authorities to recruit civilian talent. Even with COVID-19 
impacts and lengthy security-clearance timelines, that impact 
to the entire Department, CYBERCOM has offered and was able to 
attract a number of high-end talent to our force.
    Diversity is what makes us better. Extremism can tear us 
apart. Last week at Cyber Command, we held a Secretary of 
Defense-directed stand-down day. Extremism has no place in the 
Armed Services and must not be allowed to affect our cohesion 
or impact the security of the United States.
    At CYBERCOM, I have strived to cultivate an environment 
where personnel are empowered to report abuses and reject 
participation in activities that demean or harass their co-
workers or neighbors. We owe it to ourselves, our workforce, 
and our Nation to set and be the example.
    In closing, the cyberspace environment has changed 
significantly over the past 10 years. Adversaries are 
demonstrating a changed risk calculus. They are undertaking 
malign activities in cyberspace at greater scope, scale, and 
sophistication. They desire to take on the U.S. cyberspace 
below the level of armed conflict.
    To defend our security and our interests in this 
environment, U.S. Cyber Command must continue to adapt, 
innovate, partner, and succeed against such adversaries. The 
men and women at Cyber Command are truly grateful for the 
support this Committee and Congress has given to our command.
    Again, thank you for your support, and I look forward to 
your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Nakasone follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General Paul M. Nakasone
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, I am honored to appear before you today and to represent 
the men and women of United States Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM). 2020 
presented some unique challenges to USCYBERCOM that will inform our 
actions over the next year. Indeed, 2021 is offering opportunities for 
USCYBERCOM to build upon.
    USCYBERCOM was established in 2010 and became a unified combatant 
command in 2018. Our mission is to plan and execute global cyberspace 
operations, activities, and missions to defend and advance national 
interests in collaboration with domestic and international partners 
across the full spectrum of competition and conflict. We direct, 
synchronize, and coordinate cyber planning and operations. Our three 
enduring lines of operation are as follows:
      Provide mission assurance for the Department of Defense 
(DOD) by directing the operation and defense of the Department of 
Defense Information Networks (i.e. the DODIN) and its key terrain and 
capabilities;
      Defeat strategic threats to the United States and its 
national interests; and
      Assist Combatant Commanders to achieve their missions in 
and through cyberspace.
    In January 2021, our Cyber Mission Force (CMF) comprised roughly 
6,000 service members and civilians out of an authorized a total of 
6,187 positions. This includes Guard and Reserve personnel on Active 
Duty serving at our headquarters and on our CMF teams. For comparison, 
the 2018 DOD Cyber Posture Review counted about 238,000 personnel in 
the Department's cyberspace operations forces, including the CMF, 
USCYBERCOM's subordinate command elements, cybersecurity service 
providers (CSSPs), special capability providers, and specialty units.
    The DOD depends on USCYBERCOM and its performance. Every 
operational plan and every mission across the Department builds from 
the assumption that we will be able to assure that the bandwidth and 
data that military forces require will be accessible and trustworthy.
A Look Back at 2020
    In 2020, USCYBERCOM made progress in the face of significant 
challenges.
    Operationally, we helped to lead the successful defense of the 2020 
elections and played a key role in the Government-wide response to the 
SolarWinds breach. We also gained Departmental commitments to enhanced 
resources and a better alignment of cyberspace responsibilities and 
authorities for the Command (including the Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA 
elimination of the $75 million cap on funds available for acquisition 
activities).
    We saw increasingly capable cyber adversaries target the United 
States via influence operations, efforts to compromise sensitive data, 
and attempts to gain access to our weapons systems. Adversaries still 
seek to exploit gaps and seams between our organizations and 
authorities:
      China is a sophisticated cyber adversary. Beijing 
conducts effective cyber espionage and other operations and has 
integrated cyber activities into its military and national strategy. 
Despite public exposure and indictments of Chinese cyber actors, China 
remains focused on shaping the global narrative and exploiting American 
networks and cyber systems.
      Russia is a sophisticated cyber adversary. It has 
demonstrated its ability to conduct powerful influence campaigns 
utilizing the medium of social media. Moscow conducts effective cyber-
espionage and other operations and has integrated cyber activities into 
its military and national strategy. Despite public exposure and 
indictments of Russian cyber actors, Russia remains focused on shaping 
the global narrative and exploiting American networks and cyber 
systems.
      North Korea has demonstrated the capability and intent to 
strike the United States in cyberspace. Its regime sponsors cyber 
exploitation of international finance via cyber means to evade United 
Nations sanctions.
      Iran has demonstrated both the capability and intent to 
strike the United States in cyberspace. Iranian cyber actors are 
growing adept at exploiting systems as well as delivering disruptive 
and destructive attacks, and have attempted to execute a series of 
influence campaigns.
      Finally, non-state actors and criminal cartels remain 
threats to us and our interests, whether by financing, recruiting, and 
advertising violent extremist tactics, or through the exploitation of 
data for theft or ransom.
    All of these actors felt the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic - as 
did we. Fortunately, we saw their operational tempo briefly diminish at 
roughly the same time that we had to restrict access to our facilities. 
COVID-19 mitigations remain in full effect across our enterprise, and 
we are vaccinating our personnel as fast as vaccine supplies and local 
conditions allow. Overall, I am pleased that the pandemic has not 
limited the force's readiness or posture to fulfill its missions.
    Last year, I emphasized the importance of defending the election 
against foreign interference, in part through the Election Security 
Group (ESG), a combined team from USCYBERCOM and the National Security 
Agency (NSA). The ESG ensured that intelligence informed whole-of-
nation efforts to harden defenses and prevent or disrupt threats to the 
U.S. elections. We built on lessons from earlier operations and honed 
partnerships with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the 
Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), sharing 
information with those who needed it as fast as possible. We also 
worked with the National Guard Bureau to create a mechanism that 
enabled Guard units to share information about incidents quickly, 
easily, and uniformly. We called it the Cyber 9-line, given the nine 
lines of information a reporting entity would complete. As the election 
approached, every state had joined this program. I am proud of the work 
the Command and the ESG performed, as part of a broader government 
effort, to deliver a safe and secure 2020 election.
    USCYBERCOM conducted more than two dozen operations to get ahead of 
foreign threats before they interfered with or influenced our elections 
in 2020. Three points stand out for me:
      First, USCYBERCOM must be ready and able to act. Threats 
can arise rapidly, and opportunities can be fleeting. Our ability to 
operate successfully in cyberspace is a function of streamlined 
processes, mission readiness, and the trust of our various mission 
partners.
      Second, USCYBERCOM's partnership with NSA remains the 
foundation of our success. Working together under one leader again 
demonstrated the ability of both organizations to operate with speed 
and agility to achieve outcomes for the Nation.
      Third, we enable our foreign allies and partners, just as 
they remain crucial to our ability to act. Operating with allies and 
partners allows each to magnify each other's unique strengths. Our 
efforts over the last year highlight the value of not only operating 
but training together as well.
    USCYBERCOM supported the combatant commands with a wide range of 
other operational accomplishments over the last year. Counterterrorism 
operations in cyberspace are continuous, helping to protect the force 
and prosecute targets in Afghanistan and other regions on behalf of 
USCENTCOM and USSOCOM. We are also shifting JTF-Ares' focus (though not 
all of its missions) from counterterrorism toward heightened support to 
great power competition, particularly in USINDOPACOM's area of 
responsibility. Finally, we are working across the board to ensure that 
the data links that our warfighters rely on are protected and 
resilient.
    In recent months our priority has been mitigating the threat to 
federal systems from malicious cyber actors compromising widely-used 
SolarWinds software and exposing thousands of public and private 
systems to targeted exploitation. The U.S. Government learned of the 
compromise in December 2020. As an immediate response to this threat, I 
directed the creation of a combined USCYBERCOM-NSA team in support of 
the U.S. Government's efforts, through the Unified Coordination Group, 
to mitigate the compromise. To date, we have yet to identify any 
compromise of DOD information networks in the unclassified or 
classified domains.
    My teams have provided almost 100 days of continuous support to the 
whole-of-government mitigation effort. I have organized our efforts 
across three lines of effort:
    1. Bound the Problem. Using both automated and manual processes, we 
worked to determine the scope of SolarWinds Orion software products 
employed across the DODIN. Each instance was immediately isolated and 
disconnected from DOD networks. Meanwhile, NSA worked to understand the 
adversary's intent and illuminate additional tradecraft and 
infrastructure to inform threat detection and asset response 
activities. Finally, we prepared to support and assist other federal 
departments and the Defense Industrial Base in bounding their 
respective problems.
    2. Expel the Adversary. This is a continuous process driven by 
USCYBERCOM's Joint Force Headquarters-Department of Defense Information 
Networks (JFHQ-DODIN), which has directed network administrators to 
enumerate, isolate, and remediate all affected systems before they are 
reconnected to the DODIN. We have yet to find any adversary presence on 
the DODIN as a result of the SolarWinds compromise. We continue to work 
with federal partners to share best practices and expertise to expel 
the adversary from affected systems.
    3. Impose Cost. USCYBERCOM and NSA are both planning and informing 
the whole-of-government response options to the SolarWinds supply-chain 
compromise and the adversary's associated campaign. Policymakers are 
considering a range of options, including costs that might be imposed 
by other elements of our government.
    The SolarWinds incident occurred because highly skilled, 
sophisticated actors inserted a malicious cyber capability into a 
commercial product that was then downloaded and installed world-wide. 
The nature of the tradecraft employed by this actor reinforces the 
imperative for government and industry to collaborate in detecting and 
responding to malicious cyber activity. We in the U.S. Government, 
together with our industry partners, must improve our defensive posture 
to prevent and minimize the impacts and the cost in time and money of 
remedying such vulnerabilities and incidents, and we must rapidly 
expose and respond to malicious cyber activity in the future.
Our Focus for 2021
    My focus for the coming year is to broaden the foundation for 
operational progress. In particular, we are building on recent guidance 
from the Department, seeking to promote sustainable readiness; to 
improve training; and to attract and retain high-end talent across our 
military, civilian, Active Duty, and Reserve workforces.
    Cybersecurity and defensive cyberspace operations mean mission 
assurance for the DOD and thus are integral to our Nation's security. 
For 2021 and the years ahead, there are several areas where USCYBERCOM 
plans to improve. Our growth to date has highlighted certain 
misalignments between the responsibilities I have as Commander and the 
resources and authorities to execute those responsibilities. The 
following initiatives reflect the Department's guidance to align 
mission, responsibility, and accountability for the Command:
    Accountability: The Secretary of Defense in late 2020 issued a 
directive emphasizing accountability by aligning cybersecurity efforts 
with operational risk decisions.
    USCYBERCOM will improve risk management while also holding 
commanders and directors accountable for their risk decisions.
    Budget Control: USCYBERCOM's fiscal year 2021 budget is roughly 
$605 million, which covers the headquarters staff and the Cyber 
National Mission Force. Meanwhile, 27 different components shape the 
Department's overall Cyber Activities Budget, which averages about $10 
billion a year. USCYBERCOM is working with the Services and the Office 
of the Secretary of Defense to direct CMF funding in a more 
collaborative effort while allowing for informed tradeoffs (across the 
Services) based on operational needs.
    Team Realignment: The CMF's original force structure was set in 
2012, and several teams were originally aligned to support the counter-
terrorism fight. With the return of great power competition, USCYBERCOM 
is realigning some teams to focus on key nations.
    Force Growth: Recent demand across DOD has demonstrated that the 
original 133 teams in the CMF are not enough. The strategic environment 
has changed since the original CMF was designated in 2012. Added forces 
will ensure USCYBERCOM can fulfill its responsibility as both a 
supported and a supporting command.
    Training: USCYBERCOM is centralizing the provision of advanced 
training. The Army will serve as the executive agent for advanced 
cyberspace training. This will ensure that each Service presents well-
trained personnel to USCYBERCOM who can contribute to our missions as 
soon as they arrive in the Command.
    Sustainable Readiness: We are improving our ability to monitor the 
status of forces down to the team, mission element, and even individual 
levels in order to identify and remedy challenges to gaining and 
maintaining necessary readiness. We are working to better provide 
commanders with the situational awareness they require to assess risks 
and make informed decisions, not just in operations but also in 
maintaining the force as a whole. I am pleased with the progress here, 
but more needs to be done.
    Domestic and International Partnerships: Such ties collectively are 
a force multiplier when it comes to cyber operations. USCYBERCOM is 
enhancing its existing relationships and forging new ones based on U.S. 
Government priorities. We have been sending teams to ``hunt forward'' 
at the invitation of foreign governments, helping them find adversary 
malware on their governmental systems. Such persistent engagement in 
cyberspace lets the Command deliver outcomes in competition with 
adversaries, both by enabling our partners and by acting when called 
upon.
    Realigning Cyber Protection Teams: USCYBERCOM is working with the 
combatant commands to ensure they have dependable defensive support for 
their missions while we retain forces to deal with global challenges to 
the DODIN.
    USCYBERCOM executes its operations employing the Joint Cyber 
Warfighting Architecture (JCWA), which is a cyber capabilities 
architecture that enables us to act against our adversaries in 
competition, crisis, and conflict in cyberspace. When fully realized, 
JCWA will provide unified capabilities for Cyberspace Operations 
Forces, integrating the data from offensive and defensive cyberspace 
operations in ways that help commanders gauge risk, make timely 
decisions, and act.
    To help drive operational needs and capability development, 
USCYBERCOM activated a JCWA Capability Management Office (JCMO). This 
promoted unity of effort across the Command, the Services, and 
Department in building the many and varied components that together 
comprise the JCWA. Those components include:
      Improved operational architectures that give our forces 
the ability to operate at-scale from multiple locations;
      Data sharing and analytics (the Unified Platform) that 
provide insight for offensive and defensive operations;
      Command and control features that display the readiness 
of our forces as well as operational status. One tool in this suite, 
Project IKE (soon to be Joint Cyber Command and Control), has ensured 
we can measure readiness down to the individual level while informing 
exercises, training, recruiting, and even retention;
      Tool development capabilities that are responsive to 
operational needs and increasingly able to focus talents and 
innovations when and where they are needed most;
      Realistic collective training (via the Persistent Cyber 
Training Environment, or PCTE) that lets us rehearse missions and even 
exercise with Reserve Component and foreign partners.
    Last year's operational successes would not have been possible 
without the Department's Total Force, which includes the National Guard 
and the Reserves. Before the 2020 elections, the Guard provided local 
connectivity and insight on key events like Super Tuesday. They also 
played vital roles during the pandemic. For example, the National Guard 
and Reserve provided cyber forces in response to a Defense Support to 
Civil Authorities (DSCA) request from the Department of Homeland 
Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in support 
of Operation Warp Speed, providing cybersecurity support to the 
pharmaceutical industry as it developed COVID-19 vaccines in record 
time.
    Finally, the Reserve Component's ability to hire qualified cyber 
warriors who decide to leave Active Duty upon completion of their 
service commitment has proved invaluable. Members of the National Guard 
and Reserve have relevant private-sector experience in fields of strong 
interest to the Department, and many of them work for some of the 
Nation's top-tier technology companies. The Air National Guard, for 
example, has built both offensive and defensive cyber units in which 
members departing Active Duty can transfer to part-time status while 
they pursue careers in the civilian sector.
    As the trailblazer for the DOD's Cyber Excepted Service (CES) 
personnel authority, the Command benefits from flexible hiring 
authorities in filling civilian vacancies and recruiting top cyber 
talent. Even with COVID-19 impacts and security clearance timelines 
that continue to challenge the whole Department, USCYBERCOM offered 
competitive compensation and incentives to our best candidates. We are 
also partnering with the National Security Innovation Network (NSIN), a 
Defense Innovation Unit program office, to conduct a virtual hire-a-
thon that runs through this month. The most recent hire-a-thon garnered 
more than 260 resumes from people eager to join our team, and similar 
events are planned for the future. Civilians continue to play an 
important role for USCYBERCOM, providing vital continuity in several 
areas.
Conclusion
    USCYBERCOM is actively engaged in addressing the Nation's 
challenges from sophisticated and evolving adversaries in cyberspace. 
The Command supports other combatant commanders in every geographic and 
functional area of responsibility, while implementing the Department's 
Defend Forward strategy and enhancing our capabilities.
    For the year to come our priorities are set. We will focus on great 
power competition through persistent engagement, especially in support 
of USINDOPACOM, and particularly through improving the efficiency and 
effectiveness of DODIN operations and defensive cyberspace missions. To 
prepare for the approved growth in the CMF, we will enhance our control 
over resources for the force, improve its readiness (including the 
metrics we require in doing so), and consolidate CMF training. We will 
integrate the development efforts ongoing in support of the JCWA. We 
will also improve recruitment and retention of top military and 
civilian performers. All of these measures will enhance the proficiency 
of USCYBERCOM and boost its ability to provide defensive security 
assurance and options for policymakers and commanders at the senior 
levels of the government and the Department of Defense.
    The men and women at USCYBERCOM are grateful for the support this 
Committee and Congress in these efforts. I thank you for that support 
in the important work that we have undertaken together, and now I look 
forward to your questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Nakasone.
    Let me make a few points as reminders. Again, at 10:45, we 
are scheduled to have four votes and we will continue the 
hearing as we go back and forth and vote. There is a closed 
session after this hearing in SVC-217 and we will, as soon as 
we conclude, go to SVC-217.
    This is a hybrid hearing, so the questions will be by 
seniority, not by arrival time, 5-minute standard questions, 
and please mute your mics so that we can have no disruption of 
the questioning.
    Mr. Maier, again, what is the status today of the 
Department's efforts to empower ASD SO/LIC and what additional 
resources or authorities do you believe we need from the 
Congress?
    Mr. Maier. Thank you, Chairman.
    So, the current status is one that is SO/LIC, as a 
standalone organization, both its policy components and its 
service secretary-like our 922 component outside of Office of 
the Secretary of Defense (OSD) Policy, Secretary Austin and 
Deputy Secretary Hicks are re-looking that to see if that 
continues to make sense. I think one of the potential options 
is to determine a way to better integrate the policy components 
that were removed from SO/LIC towards the end of the last 
administration, back more integrated into policy, but under no 
circumstances, am I aware of any Courses of Action (COAs) that 
are being discussed that would remove the service secretary-
like responsibility from remaining a principal staff assistant 
and a direct-report up to the Secretary of Defense. So, I think 
your legislation has been very clear on that point.
    As to progress to date, we continue to make progress, I 
think, on building the capability, in many cases, in the form 
of expertise and people, on the components in that 
administrative chain of command. So, the SSO, or Secretariat 
for Special Operations, that was explicitly directed in the 
2021 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is something we 
built to about 40 people at this point and it includes a cross-
section of experts from the budgeting world, the legislative 
world, the acquisitions world, really, the, if you will, the 
nascent or core group of people that will perform that service 
secretary-like function.
    But we are not at the point, Chairman, of irreversible 
momentum at this point and we are not at the point of having 
something that is probably sufficient to do the roles that have 
been described in multiple NDAAs at this point.
    The last thing I will say is, I do think the relationship 
with Special Operations Command is very strong. One of the 
things that General Clarke and I benefit from is having worked 
together on multiple occasions in the past, and I think that 
leadership connection helps to ensure our staffs are proceeding 
in that direction of collaboration, partnership, and civilian-
military relationships.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    General Clarke, let me, again, commend you from conducting 
the review of culture and ethics. These are issues that every 
organization and, particularly, military organizations have to 
confront. Sixteen recommendations were generated by the panel. 
Without going into detail on every recommendation, can you 
highlight the key ones and the overall status of those 
recommendations, implementation-wise.
    General Clarke. Yes, sir, I can, if I can get the mic 
working. Sir, the primary finding, as you pointed out, was, in 
fact, that the focus on overemployment and mission 
accomplishment led to the detriment in leadership 
accountability and discipline. To that end, with those 16 
recommendations and the findings from that, our focus, first, 
was to the overall employment and how many forces were deployed 
as we looked at, and we conduct our own zero-baseline review of 
forces employed. Through that, have reduced the approximate SOF 
employment by about 20 percent.
    But we also, probably most importantly, have reduced the 
amount of headquarters that were forward that put leadership 
forward, therefore, you didn't have the leadership that was 
back during the force generation so that the leadership was not 
engaged and present.
    The other specific aspects that we have looked at is the 
training of our forces as they go through the various 
pipelines, but also our assessments to improve those. But at 
the end of the day, Senator, it's about engaged leadership to 
reduce the amount of incidents that SOF has had in the past.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General.
    General Nakasone, SolarWinds, the Microsoft hack, they 
don't appear to be the garden-variety type of back-and-forth 
that we have seen from nation states.
    Are we into a new era in which our adversaries are 
conducting more and more aggressive attacks that are designed 
to be just short of a redline that would trigger some type of 
conventional response? Are we in new terrain?
    General Nakasone. Chairman, I think that, as you point out, 
what we have seen from both, the SolarWinds and the Microsoft 
intrusions, is an increasing level of sophistication. This is a 
scope, a scale, a level of sophistication that we hadn't seen 
previously. This isn't, simply, you know, email phishing 
attempts; this is the use of supply chain or this is the use of 
vulnerabilities we hadn't seen before.
    In terms of this changing risk calculus for our 
adversaries, their intent, obviously, we continue to monitor, 
but for us, I think it is the clarion call for us to look at 
this differently. How do we ensure we have, as a nation, both 
the resiliency and the ability to act against these types of 
adversaries?
    Chairman Reed. We have structurally a gap between our 
civilian authorities and our military authorities that is being 
exploited by our adversaries?
    General Nakasone. Chairman, for both of the intrusions, 
what we have seen, I think I would point out would be two 
critical areas that we need to address as a nation. First of 
all, as you point out, it is not the fact that we can't connect 
the dots; we can't see all of the dots. So, my authorities and 
my responsibilities, both as the commander of U.S. Cyber 
Command and as the director of the National Security Agency, 
are rightly outside of the country.
    But in terms of internal to our Nation, our adversaries 
understand our policies and our laws and the timing to be able 
to use our infrastructure to achieve access to these companies 
and have an impact.
    Thank you very much, General.
    Senator Inhofe?
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I am going to go back to a couple of things that I referred 
to in my opening statement, and I know that, Mr. Maier, in your 
opening statement, you addressed this. I would like to have a 
little more detail and maybe aim this at both General Clarke 
and at you.
    We all understand what history has taught us, that if we 
take our pressure off of the terrorist groups, they are going 
to rebuild and threaten and all that, so things have to be done 
at the same time. The two things that I am concerned with 
still, and specifically getting into resources and 
capabilities, trying to balance the NDS, and of course we know 
what we are supposed to be doing there, the requirements to 
modernize our forces to compete with China and Russia, that is 
on one hand, but against the need to maintain the pressure on 
ISIS and al Qaeda, especially in places like Africa.
    Do you really think that you have the resources necessary 
to accomplish both of these?
    This is a place where you would want to come to, because if 
you don't, we need to know about it. Would you respond to that 
in some detail.
    Mr. Maier. Ranking member, yes, I very much agree with the 
idea that we have got to be able to do both and as I think 
General Clarke referred to, in some cases, we can do both with 
the same forces, but in a lot of cases, we can't.
    I mean, in the case of Somalia, there were, as you know, a 
lot of changes made over the last few months, including moving 
forces out and there is a policy-review underway now, looking 
at not only that decision, but how we ultimately posture our 
forces to ensure we have the right capabilities there and in 
other places.
    I think one of the benefits of the beginning of a new 
administration is, there are a number of posture reviews and a 
lot of assumptions are underway. One of the key elements of 
that is just as you described, how do we weigh the need to 
continue to protect the American public, citizens, our 
interests against the al Qaedas, and ISIS, and their affiliates 
that are still out there, even as we look to, in some cases, 
change our capabilities or our posture or our focus towards the 
peer competitors that we face.
    So, this is something that I think I would be happy to 
drill down in more specifics as we go issue by issue or place 
by place, but I think my take on this is the counterterrorism 
fight is not over. The NDS says that, and I think that has been 
reinforced in the early reviews coming out of these policy 
reviews.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. Now, General Clarke, do you 
essentially agree with this?
    General Clarke. Senator, I----
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. Well, I think we have a mic problem 
there.
    But let me go back. You brought up Somalia. Now, this 
taking some of our resources out of Somalia, going into Kenya 
and some other areas, that was actually a policy of the 
previous administration and I disagreed with it at that time.
    Now that we have already done this, Mr. Maier, what is your 
feeling now, was that the right move or was that not the right 
move? What kind of results are we getting now?
    Mr. Maier. Ranking Member, I think we have a review 
underway right now that is weighing all of this. I think from 
my perspective, there are probably significant downsides to the 
pull-out from the perspective of cost and effectiveness, but 
that is my initial look, and this will have to be an 
interagency look, but that is something that is being looked at 
both, from the counterterrorism perspective and the broader, 
regional objectives we have in the Horn of Africa.
    Senator Inhofe. Well, I would like to be in on that because 
I was pretty outspoken when that decision was made and I would 
like to see how we are doing on that.
    This was brought up already by the Chairman, the Russian 
SolarWinds cyberattack to the Chinese hack into Microsoft, and 
all that. We know those problems are there.
    DOD began building a total of 133 CMF teams in 2012 and 
reached full operational capacity with over 6,200 cyber 
personnel in May of 2018.
    General Nakasone, SolarWinds and Microsoft Exchange 
cyberattacks demonstrate we are vulnerable, we have 
vulnerabilities out there. What authorities or resources do you 
need, again, it is kind of the same question I asked Mr. Maier, 
what resources do you need to accomplish what we have to 
accomplish, because this is the place you go to for resources.
    General Nakasone. Ranking Member, thank you very much for 
the question.
    I think, first of all, just taking a step back, we as a 
nation right now, are taking a very hard look at both of these 
intrusions. I think there are two gaps that are being addressed 
right now that have to be addressed and one of them is this 
idea of information sharing. These attacks took place within 
the United States, these intrusions, and there are, right now, 
legal barriers and disincentives for the private sector to 
share information with the Government.
    We have a difficulty, as a government, understanding the 
totality of the actual intrusion, so that is being worked. The 
second piece is, as I mentioned to the chairman, we have an 
inability to see everything. So, we, as U.S. Cyber Command or 
the National Security Agency may see what is occurring outside 
of the United States, but when it comes into the United States, 
our adversaries are moving very quickly. They understand the 
laws and the policies that we have within our Nation, and so 
they are utilizing our own infrastructure, our own internet 
service providers to create these intrusions.
    The resourcing of U.S. Cyber Command right now to include 
the 133 teams has been instrumental in us being able to have an 
ability to act. Certainly, we are looking as a department, if 
further growth is necessary, we will come back to the Committee 
if that is a requirement.
    But I would say the first two pieces, being able to 
identify and being able to fix those areas, are part of the 
resilience of the Nation that has to be addressed.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay. That is very good.
    My time has expired, but we are interested and is it a 
work-in-progress right now and you are making headway, I 
assume.
    Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Shaheen, please?
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
each of our witnesses.
    General Nakasone, I want to congratulate you on the work 
that Cyber Command did on the elections in 2020 and your also 
mentioning of the National Guard. The Guard in New Hampshire 
were very helpful in securing our election there.
    But as you point out, we still have challenges ahead and 
the Defense Intelligence Agency's defense intelligence officer 
for Cyber, James Sullivan, recently asserted that Russia right 
now is clearly ahead and the more aggressive and practiced 
operator in information operations.
    So, how should we, do we need more authorities to allow 
Cyber Command to respond to what is happening in Russia?
    You talked about the gaps between the private sector and 
the public sector. Do we need a cyber security czar, someone 
who is going to coordinate the activities on both, the defense 
side and the private sector side?
    What else do we need to do in order to respond to this 
threat?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I think there are two pieces 
that are really important for us to continue to focus on 
regarding the threat. First of all, as I mentioned, the 
resiliency piece. We can have all the capabilities that we 
want, all the teams that we want, but if there is a hole in the 
bucket, and we are filling water, and the water is coming out 
faster than we can fill it in, there is a problem. That is the 
analogy I would use in terms of our resiliency right now. We 
have to be able to see what is happening in terms of the broad 
depth of our Nation.
    The other piece is that we should understand what our 
adversaries are doing. They are no longer just launching their 
attacks from different parts in the world. They understand that 
they can come into the United States, use our infrastructure, 
and there is a blind spot for us not being able to see them. 
Those are critical pieces.
    The other piece that I would come back to, in terms of your 
information operations question, that is something that both 
General Clarke and myself have taken on, and I think that you 
rightly point out that there is work that we have to do here. 
We have done a tremendous amount in terms of understanding and 
operating against adversaries to our election, but now we are 
in the area of great power competition. Is it the ability for 
multiple combatant commands, not just U.S. Cyber Command, but 
our geographic commands like European Command and U.S. Indo-
Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) and U.S. Special Operations Command 
to harness the abilities that we have collectively against 
adversaries that are using information against us.
    Senator Shaheen. So we have had, I remember several years 
ago we had a discussion in this Committee about whether 
cyberattacks were an act of war and at what point we should 
consider them an act of war and we never resolved that 
discussion.
    Is that a discussion we should get back to and should we 
change policy, with respect to cyberattacks on the United 
States?
    General Nakasone. So, that is obviously a policy question 
that I would leave to, you know, the policy experts in the 
Department of Defense and the administration.
    In terms of my role in being able to ensure that the Nation 
has capabilities and capacities, what we are focused on is 
ensuring we understand our adversaries, understand what our 
adversaries are attempting to do, and having the capabilities 
and the capacity to be able to get after those adversaries.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    I would argue, Mr. Chairman, that we should revisit that 
discussion in this Committee.
    General Clarke, there is a lot of debate right now about 
whether according to the agreement we made in Afghanistan with 
the Taliban, that we should withdraw our troops by May 1 and I 
have been an opponent of doing that because I question whether 
we have the capacity right now within the Afghan forces to be 
able to respond to the Taliban.
    Can you give us an update on where you think the Afghan 
security forces are in terms of their ability to respond to the 
threat.
    General Clarke. Senator, I was recently in Afghanistan and 
met with the head of their new, what they have stood up as a 
joint special operations command. While progress has been made, 
and I found a very dedicated commander in General Aziz, I think 
the capabilities that the United States provides for the 
Afghans to be able to combat the Taliban and other threats that 
reside in Afghanistan are critical to their success.
    Senator Shaheen. I find it particularly troubling that 
violence has increased on the part of the Taliban and in the 
last couple of months, we have had directed assassinations 
against civil society leaders in the country in a way that is 
clearly designed to take out the potential for leadership in 
the country if western forces withdraw.
    Do you think that presents an added risk to Afghanistan?
    General Clarke. Senator, it is clear that the Taliban has 
not upheld what they said they would do and reduce the 
violence. While, on the positive side, they have not attacked 
U.S. forces, it is clear that they took a deliberate approach 
and increased their violence since the peace accords were 
signed.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Now, via Webex, Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
gentlemen, for being here today.
    General Nakasone, I recall the 2015 Rose Garden 
announcement with President Obama and President Xi that a 
common understanding had been reached to halt China's state-
sponsored cyber theft of intellectual property. Over 5 years 
later, how would you assess that commitment and has China's 
actions matched its words?
    General Nakasone. Senator, based upon what I have seen over 
the past several years that I have been in command of United 
States Cyber Command and as the director of the National 
Security Agency (NSA), I have seen the Chinese continue to 
utilize cyber activities below the level of armed conflict to 
steal our intellectual property, to steal our personal 
identification, and at times, attempt to influence our 
populous.
    Senator Fischer. More specifically, did this agreement have 
any impact on cyberattacks against our defense industrial base?
    General Nakasone. Senator, if I might, I would like to take 
that question for the record just because we are learning 
things every single day and I want to make sure that it is a 
fulsome answer.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you.
    What lessons have you learned from the experience, 
especially on how we can reduce this hostile cyber activity 
that we are seeing in cyberspace?
    General Nakasone. I think the first lesson is that we 
should all take this as a wake-up call. That this is not 
business as usual, as the chairman had mentioned.
    These are adversaries that are operating with increased 
sophistication, scope, scale, and I mentioned sophistication of 
what they are doing.
    The second piece is that this is about partnerships for us 
as a nation. How do we drive a better partnership between what 
the public needs and what the private sector can offer?
    That information sharing that I mentioned is really 
critical for us to have success in the future.
    Then the last piece is that we truly need to look at the 
ability for us to see ourselves and right now it is difficult 
for us to see ourselves because we have adversaries that are 
coming into our Nation and being able to utilize our 
infrastructure very timely and very effectively against us.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General.
    General Clarke, your predecessor testified that, quote, our 
effectiveness over the last 15 years does not necessarily 
equate to success against near-peer competitors. We also 
require urgent investments in capabilities necessary for denied 
battlefields of the future. This includes submersibles, 
terrain-following avoidance and all-weather radar, advanced 
electronic attack capabilities, countermeasures, and precision 
munitions. We must enhance our effectiveness in partnership 
with these services, end quote.
    Do you agree with that?
    General Clarke. Senator, I do agree with that and I will 
tell you since General Thomas, my predecessor, made those 
remarks, SOCOM has been on that path to, in fact, ensure that 
we are cementing things in place that will allow our force to 
modernize for both, competition and for future conflict.
    Senator Fischer. What progress has SOCOM made in developing 
these higher-end capabilities?
    General Clarke. Senator, both team with both, academia and 
with industry. We are making sure, first, that we are not 
procuring capabilities that can't be used in a sustainable 
extremist fight, but that can also be used in near-peer, and we 
are focused very highly on next-generation, ISR, mobility, and 
putting a significant amount of effort into data and our 
networks to ensure that we have precision strike and effects 
into the future.
    Senator Fischer. In light of the priorities that have been 
laid out in the NDS, how is SOCOM balancing its investments to 
operate against those near-peer competitors, like China and 
Russia, with efforts to fulfill its global counterterrorism 
requirements?
    I would like to know where, if you could answer that, and 
then let me know where you are willing to accept risk.
    General Clarke. Senator, first, on the acceptance of risk, 
intel drive ops, and where we put our focus on are those most 
virulent threats that could actually come back to our Homeland 
and the persistent threat against threats like al Qaeda and 
ISIS and those networks.
    But then as we have looked at those sustainable 
capabilities against those threats, what else can come back, 
and that goes with both access and placement in other countries 
around the globe where counterterrorism can also equate to 
great power competition in someplace like the Philippines where 
our access and placement in helping the Filipinos fight ISIS 
allows us, also, to be involved in great power competition.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General. Thank you both very 
much.
    Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Now, let me recognize Senator Gillibrand via Webex.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First, for General Clarke, we entrust the special 
operations community with some of our most important missions 
and they have truly been the tip of the spear over the last 
decade. I wonder if these units are not being overtaxed or 
undersupervised. In recent years, we have heard troubling 
stories about SEALs [Sea, Air, Land] and Marine Raiders, a 
murder of a Green Beret, and allegations of war crimes by Navy 
SEALs.
    So, first, should we be more concerned about good order and 
discipline problems in this community and, second, even if 
these cases are being prosecuted appropriately, are we taxing 
the operators with too heavy a load?
    The chronic stress of these missions lead to post-traumatic 
stress, anxiety, and other mental health challenges.
    Third, are you adequately resourced to provide the 
necessary mental health treatment for these servicemembers and 
their families?
    General Clarke. Senator, the items that you bring up are 
exactly why I directed last year a comprehensive review to look 
at our forces, and while, yes, I do believe that we are 
overfocused on employment and mission accomplishment, I do 
believe that through that comprehensive review, we have taken a 
hard look at ourselves and are making the corrective steps to 
ensure, I think most importantly is that we have the engaged 
leadership present throughout the force at the right time to 
reduce those incidents from occurring that have been 
highlighted.
    I think one specific area that you mentioned which is 
important, is in the resources in our preservation of the force 
and family, which Congress allocates to us, today, more than 40 
percent of our manpower that is associated with that is 
actually going to the cognitive and, most importantly, the 
psychological efforts to ensure that our special operators and 
their families are cared for.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    Mr. Maier, as you know, the current special operations 
force structure is largely derived from counterterrorism and 
foreign internal defense operations in Iraq, in Afghanistan.
    Do you think that this structure has created gaps in 
Special Operations capabilities to win against global rivals 
like Russia or China?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I think it has and I think that has 
been recognized, and I think that is where we are laser-focused 
on closing that gap. Whether that gap is, as General Clarke 
alluded to, having higher-end capabilities that is more data-
driven, more technology, more cutting-edge, but also at the 
same time, as has already been highlighted, being able to do 
our counterterrorism mission in a sustainable fashion and reap 
some of the benefits of those partnerships that give us, 
frankly, an asymmetric advantage over our peer adversaries, 
because we do work with so many countries in so many different 
ways.
    So, this is absolutely something that I think the NDS has 
highlighted for us and within the SOF enterprise, continue to 
be very focused on.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    General Nakasone, I really appreciate your leadership, and 
it was great to see you last week. I want to talk a little bit 
about sort of where we are, because in February 2020 when you 
were at a hearing, you said that you were understanding our 
adversaries better than our adversaries understand themselves. 
Well, obviously, we just had the SolarWinds hack. Experts 
estimate that maybe a thousand software engineers executed that 
operation.
    What did we get wrong? What do we need to do to make sure 
we don't miss those kinds of assaults in the future, and what 
do you propose to address long-term concerns?
    Specifically, we talked a lot about cyber workforce, about 
how to make sure we have the best and the brightest working for 
us so that we don't have intelligence gaps like this in the 
future.
    General Nakasone. Senator, with regards to our adversaries 
and understanding them, the comment I was making there was in 
reference to what we are seeing with their election influence. 
But I agree with you, we have to understand our adversaries 
better, particularly, given the recent intrusions that are 
ongoing.
    Part of understanding our adversaries, though, is being 
able to see our adversaries, So, again, if we have a problem 
where we only see our adversaries when they operate outside of 
our country and we don't see them when they operate inside our 
country, it is very difficult for us to be able to, as I say, 
connect those dots.
    That is something that the administration and obviously 
others are addressing right now. In terms of what we are doing 
at U.S. Cyber Command, we are very much focused on how do we 
ensure that our capacity, our capability remains the best in 
the world, and that gets back to your point on people what we 
have learned over the past couple of years is that the services 
bring in incredible talent for us. We are able to see these 
young soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, coast guardsmen come 
into our force, train them, but then our great challenge is, 
how do we retain them?
    That is something that certainly I give a lot of attention 
to every single day, and it is retaining the best of the people 
that we are able to bring in. Now, we have been able to 
leverage a number of the authorities that this Committee has 
been able to generate for us, and so that is one of the areas 
that we are focused on right now, so as we continue to improve 
being able to see the adversary in its totality, we have the 
people that are able to apply, obviously, the capacity and the 
capability to defend the Nation.
    Senator Gillibrand. I would like to work with the Committee 
on getting you those authorities.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Gillibrand.
    Let me recognize Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, good morning, and I thank you all for your 
service to our country. I would like to thank your families, as 
well, for their sacrifice, as you continue that service.
    General Nakasone, I want to work through this issue a 
little bit more about whether or not we see our adversaries, 
and I would like to just have a discussion with you. I 
understand that you have always made it very clear in all of 
our discussions that you are not here to tell us how to do 
public policy, but in order to make the public policy, we 
really do need your professional advice in terms of what is 
working and what is not.
    You have alluded to it a couple of times today and I would 
really like to flush this out. Right now, we have provided the 
ability for Cyber Command to use cyber activities as 
traditional military activity, and so you can work outside of a 
war zone, as long as it is not within the United States. Our 
country has always said that our Armed Forces are not designed 
to be utilized within our country; they are designed to be used 
outside and to defend our country.
    Yet now, we face cyberattacks where adversaries, near-peer 
adversaries, Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, have figured out 
that because of the laws that we have in place to protect our 
personal privacy, that they are using internet connections to 
literally get into the United States and then to launch attacks 
probably from systems that are found within the United States.
    It seems to me that most Americans would suggest that if we 
have the ability or we have a desire to stop those attacks, we 
either have to be able to defend forward, to go on out to find 
them and to literally provide a very active cyber defense 
outside in an offensive capability, or we have to have the 
ability, as I think you are suggesting, to be able to see 
inside of our own country and to find where they are actually 
launching those attacks at.
    I want to take a few minutes here and just allow you to 
expand on that and to share with us a little bit so that we 
have a better understanding of what the public policy 
challenges are that limit your ability to be able to see our 
adversaries here within the country.
    General Nakasone. Senator, thank you.
    So, in terms of my authorities as both, the commander of 
U.S. Cyber Command and the director of the National Security 
Agency, I operate outside the United States, our forces do. It 
is not just a matter of policy; it is also law in terms of we, 
as a nation, rightly so, have a very, very determined balance 
between privacy and security. So, the authorities within the 
United States reside with the Federal Bureau of Investigations 
and others to do that type of surveillance.
    What I am identifying right now, though, is our adversaries 
understand that they can come into the United States and 
rapidly utilize an internet service provider, come up and do 
their activities and take that down before a warrant can be 
issued, before we can actually have surveillance by a civilian 
authority here in the United States. That is the challenge that 
we have right now.
    Now, I would, again, would offer that there are probably a 
number of different ways that we can look at this: whether or 
not it is greater public-private partnership; whether or not it 
is, you know, laws in terms of private sector, understanding 
who their customers are. But these are all areas that I think 
we, as a nation, have to be able to address.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General Nakasone.
    I just really think it is important that we share with the 
American public, this is not a case of where we are not 
technically adept. This is a case of where we have made laws 
that we think are correct and that we don't use our resources, 
our military uses within the United States, but we do expect 
that our other law enforcement capabilities are able to 
coordinate and to rapidly assist you so that you can go on out 
and find and take these folks out before they do it again, so 
to speak.
    Is that a fair way of looking at it?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I would offer this is at the 
heart of our Fourth Amendment, and so being able to obviously 
look at that in terms of why it is so important that we have 
that right balance between privacy and security that is 
maintained, so being able to address that, obviously, is the 
challenge that we have going forward.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Maier, I just want to bring up an issue that I think is 
really important. Secretary Mattis implemented a close-combat 
lethality task force in 2018. This was an organization 
dedicated to providing resources and policy solutions to the 
force who have accounted historically for nearly 90 percent of 
all the casualties, yet constitute only 4 percent of the force, 
and receive only 1 percent of institutional investments.
    This has been and will remain a very important legislative 
priority for my office. Nevertheless, despite its noble goals, 
this task force has floundered in the bureaucracy over the last 
year and I would like to see it get back on track.
    Can you give me your perspective on the need for an 
effective cross-functional team, such as this task force, that 
would be focused on our special operations forces, as well as 
Army and Marine infantry units and their enablers.
    I know that I am 30 seconds over my time allotted, so I am 
asking the question now, but I would ask if you would respond 
for the record to that request.
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I would be happy to.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    Mr. Maier. I fully support enhancing the lethality, 
mobility, and situational awareness of our tactical forces that 
most directly engage with the enemy, those being U.S. Special 
Operations Forces (SOF) and infantry. The U.S. Army has 
partnered with the U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) and U.S. Special 
Operations Command (USSOCOM) representatives since the former 
Secretary of Defense directed the transfer of the CCLTF to the 
U.S. Army in March 2020, culminating in a 1-star general 
officer/flag officer steering committee. Going forward, the 
CCLTF will operate as a U.S. Army-led cross-functional team, 
with joint governance maintained through the U.S. Army-USMC-
USSOCOM Tri-Service Chairs under the direction of the Secretary 
of the Army, with reporting requirements to the Secretary of 
Defense. This effort is critical to accomplishing our strategic 
priorities, minimizing casualties, and increasing combat 
effectiveness; particularly among SOF personnel who often 
operate in remote, austere, and hostile environments. My team 
continues to engage directly with the CCLTF to develop, 
evaluate, and recommend improvements to SOF and other squad-
level close-combat formations to ensure an advantage in close 
combat. Maintaining an appropriately resourced and effective 
cross-functional team ensures that innovative and tailored 
technology is fielded to meet these warfighter-unique 
requirements.

    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Now, let me recognize Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and Ranking Member 
Inhofe.
    It is great to have these great public servants before us. 
General Nakasone, I would like to begin with you. First, just 
congratulations. I just have been so impressed with the work of 
Cyber Command over my time on this Committee both, in the 2018 
election cycle and the 2020 election cycle, I think that you 
have just done a magnificent job and I just wanted to state 
that up front.
    Here is a concern that I have. I am on the foreign 
relations committee and I am the chairman of the subcommittee 
that oversees the Western Hemisphere. We had a hearing 
yesterday on sort of democracy backsliding in the Western 
Hemisphere, and one of the areas of concern is that the next 
two years, 2021 and 2022 are kind of, I think one of the 
witnesses described it as sort of an avalanche of elections or 
a tsunami of elections in Central and South America in nations 
where we are partners.
    I spoke to the Colombian ambassador to the United States 
recently and he talked about increasing cyberattacks that they 
are suffering to delegitimize elections, to promote chaos and 
division. Most of these cyberattacks seem to emanate from 
Venezuela, from probably Cuban or Russian actors in Venezuela, 
and other nations in the region that are aligned with the 
United States, are seeing the same thing. The Colombian 
ambassador to the United States asked if SOUTHCOM and CYBERCOM 
could be of assistance in this significant wave of elections in 
the next couple of years.
    I wanted to ask you, we had our posture hearing with 
SOUTHCOM last week, what are you doing or what might Cyber 
Command do, together with SOUTHCOM, to try to help our allies 
in the region, avoid this escalating trend of disinformation 
that destabilizes democratic elections?
    General Nakasone. Senator, let me begin by, first of all, 
thanking the Committee. What you refer to our successes in 2018 
and 2020 are based upon the work that this Committee did in the 
fiscal year 2019 NDAA to identify cyber as a traditional 
military activity. That allowed us to operate outside of our 
networks. It allowed us to do things like hunt-forward 
operations, of which, we did 11 hunt-forward operations in nine 
different countries for the security of the 2020 election.
    In terms of working with Admiral Faller and SOUTHCOM, both 
the admiral and I have discussed a series of countries that are 
coming up. We have worked together to identify teams that can 
assist these countries to provide advice. We know a lot about 
what our adversaries are doing in terms of influence and 
interference when it comes to elections. So, we want to make 
sure that we share that with our allies as well.
    Senator Kaine. I think the U.S. has played a good role. 
United States European Command (EUCOM) has played a good role 
with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and European 
nations with, you know, cyber defense. It is often centered in 
Estonia, a great center there of cyber defense, and I hope that 
we might explore what we can do in the Americas, as well. Thank 
you for that.
    Senator Shaheen asked some questions about war powers that 
we have to grapple with and I am going to have one question for 
each, General Nakasone and General Clarke.
    In the War Powers Resolution, basically, it requires, and 
there is some confusion and some good faith argument about the 
legality of portions of the 1974 War Powers Resolution, but it 
requires notice from the administration to Congress when the 
U.S. military is engaged in hostilities or situations that can 
lead to hostilities.
    One of the things I have noticed on the Committee is over 
time, even recently, we will get a notice letter from the 
administration, for example, about the strikes that were 
carried out in Syria. If my memory is not playing tricks on me, 
I don't believe we have ever gotten a notice letter about a 
cyber, an offensive cyber action carried out by Cyber Command.
    Am I right about that?
    General Nakasone. So, we do have a very strict 
congressional notification that we do adhere to. I think we had 
just recently had published a congressional notification for 
the Committee. I will go back and check, though, just to make 
sure on that, Senator.
    Senator Kaine. Okay. It may be that it goes to some on 
intel or other committees and may not go to all the Members of 
this Committee, but I would like to explore that.
    Secondly, to General Clarke, the War Powers Resolution does 
have a reporting exception for deployments which relate solely 
to the supply, replacement, repair, or training of forces in a 
foreign nation. So, if we deploy forces to do those things, 
there is not a reporting requirement under the War Powers 
Resolution and yet sometimes those activities, as in the sad 
case of the loss of four servicemembers in Niger, I think it 
was in 2017, they can lead to military action and even loss of 
United States life, and that is something, again, I just think 
we need to grapple with.
    The notion of what hostilities are might be quite a bit 
different than it was in 1974 when Congress drafted the 
resolution and passed it, and it may require that we sort of 
get into what is the current nature of hostilities and warfare 
and grapple with that a bit.
    Last, I will just say to you, General Clarke, not a 
question, but thank you to you and Secretary Maier. The special 
forces community is a really important and valued portion of 
our commonwealth and we thank you for the work that you do.
    I will yield back, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    I would like to recognize Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, gentlemen, for your testimony.
    General Clarke, on January 20, President Biden and his 
national security advisor, Jake Sullivan, issued a derivative 
that withdrew authority to conduct certain military operations 
outside of Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, from our combatant 
commanders and reserved it to the White House, itself.
    Has that affected Special Operations Command, or is that 
simply affecting our regional geographic combatant commands?
    General Clarke. Senator, I am aware of that, as it was 
reported in the open-source. I would respectfully submit or 
request that we talk about that in a closed hearing.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. It has been confirmed by the National 
Security Council on the record, but I understand the 
hesitation.
    Maybe I will ask Mr. Maier, do you know the problem that 
that decision was designed to solve, because it is not apparent 
to me what problem was raised by having combatant commanders or 
their subordinate commands make the decision to conduct 
military operations outside of Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq. 
Let's just get down to brass tacks here, we are talking 
primarily, I think Yemen, Somalia, and the African Sahel.
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I think it is meant to be an initial 
review of this administration in the use of a series of 
different actions that, again, we should probably talk about it 
in closed session. But I think like a lot of the reviews that 
are underway, I already alluded to everybody on the Committee 
certainly knows about Afghanistan, Somalia, the posture 
hearings and reviews that are underway, those are all part of 
an overall series of looking at what has been done and whether 
this administration would continue to proceed with those.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. We will discuss it in the closed 
session. Again, this has been reported and confirmed by the 
National Security Council.
    To make a point, I will relay a story the past President 
told me. I don't think he will be offended if I share his 
thoughts. He said early in his administration, he was doing 
some reading late one night and he got a call from an action 
officer about approving a strike and his response was, well, 
what do they expect me to know about it? Don't they have some 
captain on the ground near this country that has been following 
this target and knows that this is a bad guy and that we should 
conduct this strike?
    I agree with that sentiment.
    General Clarke, I have the highest confidence in you and in 
General McKenzie in Central Command and General Townsend in 
Africa Command to know whether or not we should smoke a bad guy 
overseas. That doesn't need to be decided by civilians at the 
White House.
    General Clarke, I want to turn to Special Operations 
Command and something we discussed in our visit yesterday, and 
I just want you to elaborate for us on the record here.
    What specific changes in force design and capabilities do 
you believe are necessary to attain the force that you need to 
accomplish your mission going forward and what do you believe 
are the most pressing of those needs?
    General Clarke. Senator, in order for us to compete 
effectively in the future, we have to modernize both, our 
precision strike and ISR. We particularly have to look at data 
and data management so that the most specific requirements 
enabled at the tip of the spear where our operators are, so 
that they can quickly see and sense the battlefield that they 
may have to be fighting in, into the time of crisis.
    Then we also have to have encrypted and electronic warfare 
capabilities so that our forces that could be forward in a 
joint war-fighting capacity, reduce the probability for them to 
be targeted. So, we are looking at all of these, Senator.
    I, personally, changed our modernization priorities and 
restructured some of our funding to modernize those 
capabilities.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you.
    General Nakasone, in the time we have remaining, I want to 
ask a question that may seem to be a boring bureaucratic matter 
to some people watching, but it is an important question that 
this Committee has addressed in the past and that the 
intelligence committee has addressed, as well, and that is the 
so-called dual-hat. In addition to being the commander of the 
Cyber Command, you are also the director of the National 
Security Agency; is that right?
    General Nakasone. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. That is the so-called dual-hat that you 
command this military combatant command and also that you run 
an intelligence agency.
    What do you think are the positive things that result from 
wearing that dual-hat?
    General Nakasone. Senator, over the past 3 years, what I 
have learned as being both, the commander of U.S. Cyber Command 
and the National Security Agency is that the ability for myself 
to operate in both roles provides the Nation, speed, agility, 
and flexible responses to adversaries that are increasingly 
modernizing, getting quicker, and getting more sophisticated.
    We operate in a domain that changes rapidly and this change 
is measured in weeks, perhaps months. Being able to rapidly 
react to that, as we have been able to prove in such things as 
securities of elections in 2018 and 2020, is empowered by that 
relationship.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. Thanks, gentlemen. I will see 
you in the closed session.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Let me now recognize Senator King via Webex.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Nakasone, a couple of quick questions about your 
staffing. Would it help, in terms of recruitment and retention 
if you had the authority, as part of this process, to forgive 
student loans, would that be a factor that you think might be 
effective in helping to retain and bring on the people that you 
need?
    General Nakasone. Senator, certainly, that would.
    The services have that power as they recruit talent for our 
force. We have utilized it also with our civilians, but that is 
one mechanism that we get feedback that is very attractive to 
our workforce.
    Senator King. The second specific question, we have had a 
real backup problem in the past with the security-clearance 
process. Is that improving or has that been a barrier?
    I have heard of people that just get so discouraged they 
move on even though they have been accepted for a position.
    General Nakasone. Senator, it has improved and it has 
improved significantly over the past couple of years. I applaud 
the work that has been done by the Department toward that, but 
even with that said, for those that operate at U.S. Cyber 
Command, it does require a full security investigation. So, 
there are times that there are a fraction of our workforce that 
takes longer than others.
    Senator King. I think that is something we have to continue 
to work on, because we don't want to lose good people who are 
making the commitment but can't set their lives aside for a 
year or more for that process to carry-forward.
    You used the term at one point, to change the subject, you 
used the term ``risk calculus.'' You have used the new 
authorities very effectively in the elections of 2018 and 2020 
in terms of defending forward and engaging with the adversaries 
in their systems.
    Has that had a deterrent effect that you have observed, do 
you believe that the adversaries are thinking twice about some 
of the things they may be planning against us because they know 
of the capacity that you have demonstrated?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I continue to see our 
adversaries operate rapidly in terms of being able to try to 
operate below the level of armed conflict. We have effectively 
gone from being a very static to a very active force, as you 
refer to, ``defend forward'', the Department's cyber strategy 
of 2018 and our instantiation at U.S. Cyber Command of 
persistent engagement, how do you both, enable your partners 
and act?
    We continue to do that. We are operating in a space where 
our adversaries are not going to stop. They are going to 
continue to look for ways to steal our intellectual property, 
to steal our identification, and to try to influence our 
populous.
    We, at the same time, have to be forward. We have to be 
operating, and we have to be engaged with our adversaries, and 
that is what has been my focus over the past couple of years.
    Senator King. Well, would you agree that we need to develop 
a cyber doctrine, if you will, of declared deterrences, 
because, as you say, they are going to continue to do this 
until they have a risk calculus that tells them that there will 
be a price to be paid that they are not willing to undertake.
    General Nakasone. So, certainly, Senator, the policymakers 
continue to look at this type of doctrine and I know that is 
being worked. From my perspective or my responsibilities, I am 
very, very focused on operationally how do we ensure that we 
can operate against these adversaries that continue to try to 
operate below the level of armed conflict.
    Senator King. I think there is one point that has been 
discussed repeatedly today that really bears a lot of policy 
discussion, and that is the gap that you have identified where 
you aren't able, either in Cyber Command or NSA, to operate 
within the United States, but our Vice President Harris have 
learned that if they can hop and use a server or an internet 
service provider (ISP) in the U.S., they can evade your 
surveillance, and then we have the Federal Bureau of 
Investigation (FBI), as you mentioned. We are dealing with the 
fundamental issue of protection of privacy.
    But would you agree that this is a serious issue?
    SolarWinds is a perfect example where they operated in this 
country for something like a year, 9 months to a year, and were 
picked up by the private sector, not by our services.
    So, I take it from your prior discussion, this is something 
we really need to focus upon; isn't that correct?
    General Nakasone. I do think we need to focus on it, 
Senator. The only alteration I would make to it, it is not 
necessarily that it is U.S. Cyber Command or the National 
Security Agency that needs to be doing this. I am saying that 
the Nation needs an ability to be able to see what is going on 
within the United States.
    Senator King. I agree. I am not saying that it is your job, 
necessarily, but what I am saying is this gap is an issue that 
we have to address and SolarWinds points it out.
    I think one other point, and my time is expired, but that 
needs to be emphasized is the relationship with the private 
sector. You have already mentioned that and that is something 
that we are going to be working on, I hope, in this session of 
Congress. That is a key part of cyber defense.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator King.
    Let me now recognize Senator Ernst.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Gentlemen, thank you very much for being here today and for 
your command teams and, as well, the men and women within your 
commands.
    General Clarke, certainly, our Special Operations Force is 
probably the most capable military element on the face of the 
planet, and as well, General Nakasone, the men and women within 
Cyber Command have proven essential to us over the past number 
of years. So, thank you very much for being here today.
    Mr. Maier, I appreciate the opportunity to sit down with 
you recently and discuss our SO/LIC forces. We think it is 
really important and General Clarke, as well. I will start the 
questioning with you. I appreciate you sitting down a couple of 
weeks ago and visiting about our shared commitment to the men 
and women of SOF, so thank you.
    Senator Inhofe and Senator Fischer touched a little upon 
some of the gray zone activities where our SOF covers down and 
we know how important that is. As we have seen counterterrorism 
actions in the past, and as we move to, you know, the near-peer 
competition under the guise of our National Defense Strategy, 
we understand there needs be a little shift, but if you can, 
just reinforce how important it is that we continue not only to 
adjust to that near-peer competition with our special 
operators, but also to continually focus on counterterrorism 
efforts.
    General Clarke. Senator Ernst, as you know, SOCOM has to 
enable the joint force in both, crisis, competition, and if 
necessary, conflict. In this space, there will remain that 
persistent threat and we have to prioritize towards that 
persistent threat and that would be groups like al Qaeda and 
ISIS.
    But there are SOCOM and SOF unique capabilities that can be 
used in competition that the rest of the joint force doesn't 
have, and that could be things like undersea, seabed warfare 
and only we provide, the strategic reconnaissance that our 
forces are extremely capable of. So, as we look at that 
competition area and as we look to modernize our force for the 
future, those are the specific capabilities that we will 
continue to work with this Committee to move forward on.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, sir.
    Just as a reminder to this Committee, as we are looking at 
potentially flat budget for DOD in the future, we just need to 
understand the role that SOF plays, that SOCOM has around the 
globe, and that we do get a lot of bang for our buck when it 
comes to the men and women within your command.
    You know quite well that my heart and soul is behind 
Preservation of the Force and Family (POTFF) and how important 
it is, and I know, sir, the fifth pillar of your command 
philosophy is health of the force, but we go back to the SOF 
truth that humans are more important than hardware. So, this is 
something that I have long been involved in.
    If you could, please explain a little bit about what your 
focusing on in the area of brain health.
    General Clarke. Thanks, Senator.
    I think it is important that the entire Committee 
understands when we started POTFF, we focused on the physical, 
our men and women who were physically wounded where you could 
see the wounds, and in the last couple of years, we have 
refocused those efforts towards cognitive and the 
psychological, as we saw suicides go up. But then we looked at 
the health of our force for 20 years of engaged combat, and now 
we have put more than 40 percent of our resources and our 
capability specifically to the brain health and the cognitive 
domain and the psychological domain to be able to ensure that 
our operators are both, physically and mentally capable. So, we 
baseline all of our operators with their cognitive piece, so if 
there are reductions in their capabilities, if they actually 
have some type of concussive event, we can then go back later. 
We are working with industry academia and even elements like 
the National Football League in this space so we can make sure 
that we take care of our operators.
    Senator Ernst. Right, and I think it is just important to 
stress that the investment into these activities is extremely 
important for, again, the preservation of our force. I have had 
the opportunity to visit a number of those types of activities 
in Coronado with Admiral Green a number of years ago, as we 
kind of dove into behavioral health activities, as well as 
spiritual activity is very important for our force, but then 
also the Tactical Human Optimization Rehabilitation and 
Reconditioning (THOR3) facilities that are available for our 
men and women of the force and making sure that they are 
physically strong and capable of what is expected of them by 
the American people.
    Again, I will continue advocating on behalf of SOCOM and I 
certainly appreciate your wonderful efforts.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Let me recognize Senator Blackburn, via Webex. Senator 
Blackburn?
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Clarke, thank you for the time and the conversation 
yesterday. We talked about 40 percent of SOCOM's forces are 
aligned to support the great power competition fight. That is a 
big increase. So, for the record today, I would like for you to 
talk about the resourcing standpoint of what do you need from 
this Committee in terms of authority; advocacy, what do you 
need to engage in near-peer competition from Beijing; and then 
let's talk a little bit about the posture that SOCOM has to 
counter these nefarious activities from the Chinese Communist 
Party (CCP) and where you are positioned there.
    I think you can really do more with a lower dollar amount 
than the regular force, so I would love to just get your 
comments for the record.
    General Clarke. Senator, thank you.
    You know, as pointed out, with about 2 percent of the 
Department of Defense budget, I think we are a very good return 
on our investment, with about 3 percent of the force.
    The continued resourcing, specifically, you know, for SOCOM 
so that we can modernize in this area, where we can provide 
unique capabilities for our forces is critical.
    We have to balance both, operations, readiness and 
modernization, and the continued support of this Committee 
remains critical.
    You specifically asked about our employment and our 
capacity at 40 percent. That is exactly right. We have, in 
fact, adjusted our forces to a sustainable presence against the 
persistent terrorist threats, while, at the same time, 
rebalancing those forces across the globe. Some of our 
competitors are now global threats and not necessarily specific 
to Europe or INDOPACOM, and so we continue to look at where our 
forces are located across the globe so they can counter, you 
know, those specific threats.
    Then the last thing I would hit in this area is the 
specific authority for our forces to conduct unconventional 
warfare in this space.
    While I can take specific points in closed session, that 
authority that allows us to work with partner forces to 
increase both, the resistance and resilience, working in the 
information space, is absolutely critical.
    So, Senator, thank you.
    Senator Blackburn. Yes, and we talked a little bit about 
the term that you and Admiral Davidson use about slowing down 
China's clock. I would like for you to hit just quickly on what 
that means and then what we have, what we can do with 
operations within that gray zone.
    General Clarke. Senator, as you are well aware, we 
established the joint task force, Indo-Pacific. It is the first 
task force that went and is actually west of the International 
Date Line that we developed with INDOPACOM to ensure that we 
work with like-minded partners in the Indo-Pacific. I think 
part and parcel of that is that that element is focused on the 
information operations so that China, who works very well in 
the space of creating false narratives and not always being up 
front with the messages that they send, that we actually are 
able to tamp down some of the disinformation that they 
continuously sew, and that is an important part to SOCOM and to 
CYBERCOM, is working in this information space.
    Senator Blackburn. With the time remaining, we talked a 
little bit about Operations Tempo (OPTEMPO) and the changes 
there and the comprehensive review from 2019. Where have you 
seen holistic improvement across the force and where would you 
like to continue to see improvement?
    General Clarke. Senator, through our comprehensive review, 
we have now ensured that by this year, all of or forces will be 
above a 2:1 deployment to dwell ratio. That will be the first 
time that that has happened since September 2001. We continue 
to strive toward meeting the 3:1 dwell ratio for all of our 
forces, and some of our forces already there and we will 
continue to strive in that.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, sir.
    General Clarke. Thank you.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Blackburn.
    Before I recognize Senator Hawley, I will depart for the 
vote. Senator Inhofe will preside, and I will return, and we 
will switch off.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, gentlemen, for being here. It is good to see you 
again.
    General Nakasone, let me start with you. Many companies use 
Chinese hardware like printed circuit boards in their 
information systems they provide to the Department of Defense, 
including systems that are used to store and to transmit 
information. At the same time, DOD and others have warned that 
the Chinese Government might be able to tamper with these 
Chinese-made products in order to create cyber vulnerabilities 
that they can exploit and use against us.
    My question is, do you think it is important for the 
Department to at least know which systems contain Chinese-
printed circuit boards so that it can address potential cyber 
vulnerabilities and contain any exposure or any danger that is 
identified?
    General Nakasone. Senator, in light of the recent 
SolarWinds intrusion, I think this is, as you point out, an 
area that we, as a Department, continue to look at very hard. 
There are procedures and processes that the Department utilizes 
to verify this, but I agree that this is an area that we have 
to obviously shine a light on in the future.
    Senator Hawley. Do you agree that further steps would be 
useful in order to identify vulnerabilities here and, as you 
just said, shine a light on this?
    General Nakasone. So, Senator, I am a person that every 
single day is worried about the vulnerabilities that our 
adversaries might exploit, so you can well-imagine that this is 
an area that I have a great deal of, you know, focus on right 
now.
    Senator Hawley. Good. Well, I look forward to working with 
you on that.
    General Clarke, let me come to you. The Baltic nations have 
spent some years honing their ability to conduct irregular 
warfare in the event that Moscow attempts to seize a Baltic 
territory, so it won't be able to hold it. It has become a key 
part of their deterrent strategy, as you know, in the Baltic 
region.
    What I am asking about this is, do you wonder, do you think 
that the Baltic model could be applied in Taiwan; in other 
words, would helping Taiwan improve its irregular warfare 
capabilities help it deter potential Chinese aggression?
    General Clarke. Senator, bottom line, yes.
    We have worked closely with the Baltics. I have met with 
every Baltic SOF commander personally and we have been engaged 
in the Baltics for a long time, but we also, and I can talk 
more specifically in closed hearing, we remain close with 
capabilities for Taiwan.
    Senator Hawley. Do you think that it would be helpful to us 
and should we be prioritizing helping Taiwan develop its 
irregular warfare capabilities?
    General Clarke. Yes, Senator, I do think we should help 
them.
    Senator Hawley. Let me, still with you, General Clarke, but 
switching topics. President Obama's former acting special 
representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan recently wrote 
that, and I am quoting now, for the long term, the United 
States will need a counterterrorism capability in that region 
that doesn't depend on a permanent United States military 
presence in Afghanistan, which I completely agree with.
    My question is, what options has SOCOM provided to the 
secretary to allow us to achieve counterterrorism objectives in 
Afghanistan without a permanent military presence in the 
country?
    General Clarke. Senator, we will always provide options. As 
you well know, al Qaeda and ISIS are not just in Afghanistan, 
but they are a global threat, and we will always provide the 
secretary and the Department and the National Command Authority 
with options so that if there is a threat, that we can actually 
deter or actually disrupt or defeat that threat.
    Senator Hawley. Specifically, you are saying, and we can 
discuss this more in closed session, as appropriate, but just 
to be clear, you are working on providing options to deal with 
the counterterrorism threat and with--for counterterrorism 
measures that do not rely on a permanent standing military 
presence in country; is that right?
    General Clarke. Senator, there has been no decision made 
for Afghanistan, so I think it would be, you know, a 
hypothetical to know what we are going to do at this time, but 
we will always provide options, you know, for the Department of 
Defense.
    Senator Hawley. Good. Well, I look forward to following up 
with you more on that.
    General Nakasone, I am going to come back to you here in my 
few remaining seconds. The People's Liberation Army (PLA) in 
their writings often refer to cyber capabilities as the 
strategic commanding heights of future warfare.
    I am wondering how the PLA's emphasis on information 
operations and maintaining the information advantage influences 
CYBERCOM strategy for detering China.
    General Nakasone. Senator, I think this whole discussion in 
terms of where our adversaries are going and in the influence 
spaces is among the most important areas that we are taking on 
at Cyber Command, and I know General Clarke is addressing at 
U.S. Special Operations Command.
    This is really the competition that we are involved with 
today where our adversaries are, again, trying to influence 
ourselves and our people through a number of different means. 
So, we have work ongoing today, ongoing both, in our commands 
and with other commands trying to address that, as well.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. I will look forward to following 
up with you on that, as well.
    Thank you, gentlemen, for your testimony.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Senator Hawley.
    Senator Kelly is recognized.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Senator.
    I understand that in January of 2020, nine combatant 
commanders, including you, General Clarke, sent the letter to 
the Director of National Intelligence requesting more 
assistance from the intelligence community in being able to 
publicly illuminate, malign influence, and coercive activities 
by China and Russia.
    So, to all the witnesses, starting with General Clarke, 
what, if anything, has been done in response to this request 
from the nine combatant commanders?
    General Clarke. Senator, from that request, SOCOM, with the 
other combatant commanders, continues to look specifically in 
the information space and where we can best effect to provide 
capacity against our adversaries. I think that specific memo 
led to some sort of concurrence requirements being lifted for 
the Department.
    Senator Kelly. In your view, would the illumination of 
these malign activities help to dissuade or deter China and 
Russia?
    General Clarke. Senator, at this point, I cannot point to 
specific deterrents or detraction of that. I would tell you we 
would continue to look, but I think it is most important that 
we continue to develop the capacity required to work in the 
information space.
    Senator Kelly. General Nakasone?
    General Nakasone. Senator, to your second point there, I 
think that is a really important question. In terms of what our 
adversaries are doing today, our most effective response is 
being able to respond to what they are doing. We have a number 
of different ways upon which we respond. Sometimes we respond 
to other means of the power in our government, whether or not 
it be diplomatic or sanctions or other ways, but I think it 
begins with the idea that we are competition right now and our 
adversaries are operating below the level of armed conflict in 
a matter of trying to influence us.
    Senator Kelly. But in downgrading the classification of 
this intelligence, is that helpful in meeting the goal of 
dissuading more aggressive action from China or Russia?
    General Nakasone. I think we have to think broader than 
that, Senator. I think that it is more than just writing to 
release or perhaps even downgrading.
    It is as General Clarke alluded to, there are other means 
upon which we gather intelligence these days. How do we take 
the best tools, the best techniques, not only from our 
Government, from also from the private sector, to look at what 
is occurring and being able to shine that spotlight.
    I think a lot of times we look and just say, hey, we will 
simply go ahead and downgrade intelligence and provide that 
rapidly. Sometimes the better answer is, okay, where are the 
other streams of information, how can we use that most 
effectively with an audience.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you, General.
    To Mr. Maier, so, Section 1202 of the Fiscal Year 2018 NDAA 
sought to provide a new tool to counter these challenges by 
authorizing the Secretary of Defense to provide support to 
regular forces, the regular forces, and individuals supporting 
U.S. special forces, but that irregular warfare operation part, 
last year's NDAA raised the annual cap on funding for this 
authority from ten to $15 million.
    Mr. Maier, how would you characterize the demand for this 
authority across the geographic combatant commands?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, that is a, I think, a very important 
tool we have that we haven't yet talked about in the great 
power competition. The demand is high. It takes some time, as 
you can understand, to build those partnerships to be able to 
operate in that partnership-driven approach.
    We view this very much as the successful 127 Echo or the 
1208 program, where there is a crawl, walk, run element to it, 
and I think that started very small. As the progress, and in 
many respects, the high return on investment in terms of 
dollars and deployments in dwell and impact started to become 
apparent to the Geographic Combatant Commanders (GCCs), and 
became more and more in demand, we see a similar model for 
1202, sir.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you.
    I yield back.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Sullivan?
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, good to see you again. Thanks for all your work.
    General, let me start with you. General Clarke, how are you 
feeling, with regard to the resources that you have for your 
no-fail mission, you have a lot of no-fail missions, but your 
Counter-Weapons of Mass Destruction (C-WMD) mission that SOCOM 
was, a couple of years ago, given that mission, as well. It is 
not like you didn't have a lot of missions on your plate. That 
is a big one.
    A number of us, myself, in particular, were concerned that 
the Special Operations Command does a lot of things right, 
really well, but being given the lead on that one was a whole 
other area that is really, really important, but also needs 
resources. Are you resourced enough for that mission?
    That is a mission that, of course, there is no doubt, you 
can't fail on.
    General Clarke. Senator, the bottom line is we do have 
sufficient resources to do that. The resources from United 
States Strategic Command (STRATCOM), that had that coordinating 
authority for C-WMD were moved from STRATCOM over to SOCOM. I 
will continue to assess if additional resources are required 
going forward, but as you point out, the WMD threat is 
something that we must pay continuous attention to, because if 
we don't, we do it at our own peril.
    Senator Sullivan. As I know you know, and you and I have 
discussed this, we are reorienting. I think it is the 
appropriate orientation for our military and national security 
to great power competition with China as a rising threat, but 
the WMD threat continues regardless of great power competition 
and that could be from violent extremist organizations, which 
clearly want to get their hands on that. It could be from North 
Korea, who is a well-known proliferator. Pakistan.
    Are there any areas, in particular, that you are focused 
on, as it relates to the Counter-WMD that is not in the 
headlines, but we should be sure we are focused on here, as 
well?
    General Clarke. Senator, one thing that we put some strong 
recommendations for is that is ensuring that our joint forces 
actually train to work in a contested environment, so that our 
adversary is well aware that they will be denied the benefit of 
use of these capabilities. That deterrent principle, I think is 
critical.
    As you and I discussed yesterday, there are those that 
would like to wish this problem away, but we don't think we can 
and we have to be prepared for its potential use.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask another issue, which I think 
this Committee is very focused on.
    You know, the SOCOM enterprise, our Special Operations 
Forces have been very focused, appropriately, Post-9/11 in the 
Middle East. They have done a great job, a heroic job. Many 
have lost their lives in their service to their country.
    How are we starting the transition from the focus there, 
which we still need to do, but we need to also start focusing 
on China and the Asia Pacific and the INDOPACOM region. Are we 
doing enough there? Do we have enough experience with special 
operators?
    It is a very different battlefield, as you know. It is 
probably less kill and capture and more gray zone operations. 
What is your thinking on that, General?
    General Clarke. Senator, this is going back to the future 
for SOF. Many of our forces were regionally aligned prior to 9/
11 that had both, the cultural and language understandings and 
now as we have actually reduced forces in the places that you 
have named, some of these forces are going back to where they 
do have that understanding and those capabilities.
    So, we have aligned, in one case, I think important for the 
employment of our forces, but I think the second and really key 
aspect from a SOCOM perspective is that we have actually 
reallocated our budget for the modernization towards the 
capabilities that are required. So, I have adjusted 14 percent 
of my budget in modernization towards great power competition 
for those unique SOF capabilities.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. That is good to hear.
    General Nakasone, I just want to compliment you, sir. I 
think you have been doing a phenomenal job. You probably don't 
get complimented enough because you can't talk about what you 
do, but in my own experience here, I am just starting my second 
term in the Senate, there was a hearing that I really remember 
in 2015, 2016. It was the Cyber Command. It was some of the 
others who were, I called us the cyber punching bag of the 
world. The witnesses admitted that we don't retaliate when we 
are attacked from a cyber perspective.
    I don't think we are the cyber punching bag of the world 
anymore and I think it is because of your work. You can't talk 
about a lot of that work, but can you just let the American 
people know that whether it is on elections or other 
cyberattacks, we are not just taking blows; we are going on 
offense, we are preemptive. I think it is really important for 
people to know that.
    That was not the posture 5 years ago. We were just getting 
pummeled and we wouldn't do anything about it. Can you talk a 
little bit about that, to the extent that you can, in an 
unclassified session.
    General Nakasone. Senator, I appreciate the question and, 
importantly, I appreciate the support of this Committee, 
because as I was mentioning, really, 2018 was a watershed year 
for us, as we had looked at the future to a midterm election 
and knowing that we did not want to experience what we had 
experienced two years previously, the ability for this 
Committee to pass the NDAA that year that allowed us to operate 
outside of our networks, cyber as a traditional military 
activity. Moved us from being a static to an active force.
    This idea of persistent engagement, always being involved 
with your adversaries, whether or not you are enabling our 
partners or acting against our adversaries is critical in 
underlying to our support in 2018, 2020, and today.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, General.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    Let me now recognize Senator Duckworth via Webex.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I do join my colleague, the senator from Alaska, in his 
admiration for the work that we have done, especially under 
your leadership, General Nakasone.
    General Clarke, I appreciate our call yesterday and I 
wanted to express my support for Special Operations Command's 
diversity and inclusion strategic plan. As we discussed on our 
call, bringing more people from diverse backgrounds into the 
Special Operations community will make it stronger. By infusing 
teams with different ideas and perspectives and enabling them 
to engage more effectively around the world.
    I agree with you that greater diversity in the Special 
Operations community is an operational imperative. That is why 
I sponsored the ELITE Act in last year's NDAA to identify and 
remove barriers to underrepresented groups' participation in 
elite communities of the Armed Forces.
    I am glad to see that you have taken on the challenge of 
increasing diversity and inclusion in Special Operations 
Command and it is an important first step in strengthening our 
military, and I really look forward to working together with 
you on this issue in the future.
    My first question, I believe that being able to tap into 
the full talent of every perspective of our population makes 
our military stronger. I also believe that in order to build 
the most capable military possible, we need to capitalize on 
the natural advantage of our National Guard and Reserve forces, 
namely, that those servicemembers are highly trained in their 
civilian jobs, as well as their military jobs.
    If we viewed this as a strength, we can benefit from the 
expertise that our Guardsmen and Reservists bring from civilian 
life, especially infuse in fields that require advanced 
technical skills like cyber.
    General Nakasone, can you please describe how the National 
Guard and Reservists like members of the Illinois National 
Guard who are currently working the 176th Cyber Protection Team 
are contributing to your mission at U.S. Cyber Command.
    General Nakasone. Senator, thank you, and thank you for the 
question. The 176th Cyber Protection Team is a team well-known 
to us at U.S. Cyber Command. They mobilized, came on Active 
Duty, and did a tremendous job in protecting our 
infrastructure, the actual capabilities, upon which we utilize 
every single day to engage our adversaries, led by, you know, 
Major Jaime Marlock, who is the Cyber Protection Team leader.
    Really, it starts at the top with the Illinois National 
Guard, in general, Brigadier General Neely, who has been 
instrumental in being out front, being very supportive of our 
efforts, and I think key to your point, attracting those that 
leave Active Duty service and continue to want to serve. So, 
the 176th is a great example of our partnership with the Guard.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    How will increasing National Guard and Reserve components 
participation in cyber operations improve our national 
readiness and capacity to combat cyberattacks and how can 
Congress support this effort to increase the Reserve forces 
participation in our cyber activities?
    General Nakasone. Senator, if I might use just an example, 
and I would say it is from the state of Connecticut. As we were 
operating with the Connecticut National Guard in the early fall 
of 2020, on the 2nd of September, Connecticut faced a 
ransomware attack on their public school systems. Operating 
with the Connecticut National Guard, they provided us 
information via a capability that we called a Cyber 9-Line. 
That is utilizing a common ID card, being able to obviously 
share that and unclassified with us back at U.S. Cyber Command, 
we could use the power that we have at U.S. Cyber Command and 
at the National Security Agency to look at this malware and to 
rapidly provide assistance.
    But at the end of the day, it was the Connecticut National 
Guard that did the work and, you know, taking an ability to 
look at a situation where your school has been shut down 
because of ransomware and then in a matter of days, being able 
to bring that back up, I think it shows the power of the Guard 
and the power of the partnership between the private and the 
public sector.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    When I think of complex cyber missions, I do think, in 
particular, about the challenges that U.S. Transportation 
Command faces in securing its network and safeguarding 
sensitive information about our troops, our capabilities, and 
our postures, and movement plans while also working with 
numerous commercial partners, whether it is ocean-going or 
within the aviation community.
    General Nakasone, please describe your current work with 
U.S. Transportation Command and explain why it is important 
that Congress fully resource and support this and future 
initiatives like it.
    General Nakasone. Transportation Command is really a unique 
capability for our Nation. It provides us global logistics. We 
are perhaps the only nation that can do that so readily and so 
well.
    Under General Lyons' leadership at U.S. Transportation 
Command, he approached us and said, hey, we operate primarily 
off of the private sector with unclassified networks. How can 
you help?
    There has been a partnership ongoing for the past year and 
a half where both, U.S. Transportation Command, U.S. Cyber 
Command, and the National Security Agency have taken a look at, 
how do we improve that public-private partnership, how do we 
ensure the security of the data that is being transmitted, and 
then, also, how do we look to the future?
    Thank you, Senator.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    I am out of time.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Duckworth.
    Let me recognize Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, gentlemen. Thanks for being here today. General 
Nakasone, Space Force has already taken great steps in 
advancing U.S. national security. In order to provide the 
effectiveness needed, it is going to continue to need a strong 
backing from our cyber intelligence community.
    What role will the cyber mission force and CYBERCOM play in 
Space Force?
    General Nakasone. Senator, it has been an early and active 
role already. General Dickinson has been out to U.S. Cyber 
Command to talk about how do we secure the networks upon which 
he operates. How do we work, obviously, as we take a look at 
our overhead constellation, what are the threats that 
USSPACECOM is going to approach in the future, and so, we have 
been actively engaged with him over a period of several months 
to identify those.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    General Clarke, section 922 of the 2017 NDAA, which was 
signed into law by President Obama, made clear that the 
administrative chain of command for the Special Operations 
community runs from the President to the Secretary of Defense, 
to ASD SO/LIC, and then to you, the SOCOM commander.
    Prior to conducting congressional engagements, do you 
obtain approval from ASD SO/LIC?
    General Clarke. The secretary, we work very closely with 
ASD SO/LIC in that administrative chain of command for 
oversight, particularly for our budget, and acquisition.
    Mr. Maier and his predecessors provide that oversight. But 
it also clear that my chain of command, and Secretary Austin 
made this very clear to me, that my chain of command as a 
combatant commander runs from the Secretary of Defense to the 
President.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    That is kind of my next question. Do you support the 
implementation of the law and, specifically, ASD SO/LIC's 
absolute control over administrative matters, such as 
legislative engagements, budgetary resource decisions, 
acquisitions, public affairs, personnel, legal accountability, 
and other related authorities held by the traditional military 
service?
    General Clarke. Senator, what I believe is a key role for 
ASD SO/LIC is actually to be an advocate for SOCOM within the 
Department. So, when decisions are made about services and 
service budgets and service personnel decisions, I think ASD 
SO/LIC in the room to be able to be that advocate for us, to 
me, is the most important aspect that ASD SO/LIC can do for 
SOCOM.
    It goes back to the old adage if you aren't at the table, 
you become the lunch, and having ASD SO/LIC in and at that 
table, which has occurred, has been very helpful.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    Mr. Maier, I noted a moment ago the law mandates that the 
administrative chain of command for SOCOM passes from the 
President to Secretary of Defense, ASD SO/LIC, SOCOM commander. 
In light of the clear chain of command, have you met with the 
Secretary of administrative matters related to SOCOM?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, yes, I have, and I participate in the 
Secretary's regular service secretary meetings. I also 
participate, or my staff participate, in the series of 
governance meetings that the Deputy Secretary runs in order to 
do, just as was already said by General Clarke, to both 
advocate, but for the administrative chain of command.
    We are responsible for both, setting direction and ensuring 
execution and implementation, consistent with the law.
    Senator Tuberville. How often do you all meet, do you 
think?
    Mr. Maier. The service secretaries meet at least twice a 
month. Obviously, a new administration, so a different series 
of meetings, but every day, sir, there are meetings that I am 
representing ASD SO/LIC in that service secretary-like hat with 
the Secretary, Deputy Secretary, or their direct reports.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    Thank you for your service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thanks to each of our witnesses here today.
    Mr. Maier, in General Clarke's words, if I may use your 
words here, General Clarke, they are good words, he says SOF, 
quote, strengthens alliances and creates diplomatic options.
    These strategic effects ultimately, clearly begin with 
actions undertaken by people in those areas. It is our number-
one assets.
    I would like to hear from you how you are modernizing 
professional development in a way that really reflects this 
very unique role of your personnel, how you are basically 
bridging the gap between direct action and working in an 
embassy across the span of training and education, a very 
obviously complex set of skills that are necessary.
    Specifically, my question is, how are you broadening mid-
level SOF leaders and how much of that focus is on senior-
enlisted personnel?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, that is a very important part of this 
pivot, as we described it from being able to still do the 
counterterrorism missions that we have been involved in for the 
last, really, generation to be able to do that both, and then 
be competitive at that level below armed conflict.
    A critical component of that, as we have talked about 
already, is not only the ability to speak languages and really 
engage at the right level of cultural awareness, with not only 
the adversaries, but also those third parties, third countries 
that those adversaries are attempting to influence.
    A lot of that happens in the information space, social 
media, as we know. So, a critical component of a professional 
military education, but even more specifically, the operational 
imperatives that we have to evolve that force. This is the key 
part of this.
    It was alluded already at the opening statement of General 
Clarke, that over 50,000 members of Special Operations Command 
are enlisted members. That is where the rubber meets the road. 
These individuals, especially in the SOF world, are often 
called upon to do things well above what their conventional 
counterparts, whether that is operating embassies, 
participating on interagency teams, or engaging with partners. 
So, we see that as really the crux of progress and where we are 
going to be successful in this great power fight.
    Senator Peters. So, Mr. Maier, does the SOCOM talent 
management then emphasize regional experience, is that 
something that you are really seeking out and trying to develop 
further?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, yes, sir, and I think, specifically, 
evolving to those great power concerns, we often forget at 
times that a lot of what we have been doing over the last years 
in the counterterrorism fight was really focused on fairly 
narrow set of adversaries. So, I think as we look more broadly 
and diversely at the adversaries we are going to confront, and 
in some cases, more importantly, those entities that they are 
trying to influence, it is important for us to be able to 
engage in those languages with that cultural awareness.
    Senator Peters. Yeah, absolutely. Well, that is good to 
hear.
    General Nakasone, on Tuesday, I asked Admiral Aquilino how 
he plans to align security assistance in INDOPACOM with the 
nature of our competition with China and Russia and if he 
believes that security assistance should include cybersecurity 
assistance to help our partners protect their critical 
infrastructure or enhance their resilience against information 
warfare.
    My question to you, sir, is, do you believe that security 
assistance to partner nations should include cybersecurity and 
information warfare measures, first off, and second, do you 
believe we should pursue these types of relationships outside 
of the traditional Five Eyes nations that we have talked about 
mostly?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I believe that in terms of the 
theater engagement that you discuss right there, our most 
effective means is to begin with the discussion with the 
combatant commander. So, if confirmed, we will look forward to 
obviously working very closely with Admiral Aquilino.
    I do take your point on the idea of a broader partnership. 
We do need broader partnerships. We have tremendous 
relationships with our Five Eyes. It is a critical capability 
that we have as a nation, but we are also looking at how do we 
expand those partnerships to bring a degree of competitive 
advantage against our adversaries in the future.
    Senator Peters. Great. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    Senator Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you for your service, all three of our witnesses 
today.
    General Nakasone, I appreciated our discussion before this 
hearing about the contributions of the National Guard in 
Connecticut and you were mentioning them in your testimony. 
Across the country, the National Guard have really been 
integral to many of our cyber efforts. Before this last 
election, the Connecticut National Guard, in particular, was a 
really invaluable resource to many local officials in 
preventing cyberattacks and taking action to deter them, and 
then more recently, as you know and we discussed it, the 
National Guard was an immense resource to Connecticut in 
responding to ransomware attacks against Hartford schools and 
in preparing for responses to particular attacks, but also, 
again, detering them.
    I am also very expedited about the grant that the 
University of New Haven received to train more National Guard 
members on cybersecurity skills under Project Ironclad. Not 
only will the University of New Haven help us train more 
cybersecurity talent in New Haven and Connecticut, but it could 
also help create a national pipeline to recruit and retain the 
expertise in our country that we so desperately need.
    Could you explain how the University of New Haven's Project 
Ironclad training program fits with our need for more 
cybersecurity talent.
    General Nakasone. Certainly, Senator, but let me take a 
step back and just talk a little bit about the work of the 
Connecticut National Guard, because I think that in my previous 
statement, I wasn't specific enough on how big a deal this was.
    So, if you think about it, a ransomware, and as I 
indicated, ransomware on the 2nd of September that is impacting 
the school system, but it is also impacting fire, and police, 
and emergency medical services. Think about that, if you are 
losing that from a capability within your community, 
Connecticut National Guard, 24 hours, working with us at U.S. 
Cyber Command and National Security Agency, utilizing a 
capability called the Cyber 9-Line where they are able to 
leverage our expertise back at Fort Meade, and then being able 
to deal with the problem.
    This is the Connecticut National Guard though that is 
solving the problem. They are just getting a bit of assistance 
from us. That is a huge deal and I think it is really a great 
exemplar of how powerful the National Guard can be not only in 
a situation like this, but also, I want to point out the work 
that they did during the 2020 election in ensuring its success.
    Also, most importantly, and I don't think it is well-known, 
their work with the Department of Homeland Security in ensuring 
the security of Operation Warp Speed, our ability to bring a 
vaccine for COVID-19 to the American populous. This is the work 
that the National Guard has done over the past 9 months and I 
think it is critical.
    In terms of New Haven, this is really a great news story 
and being able to, again, generate interest, generating 
context, generating an ability for those that have, you know, a 
desire, a knowledge, an inkling of what they want to do in the 
future and bringing them with the capability to train and then 
being exposed to cyber for the future.
    Senator Blumenthal. I think that your points are so well 
taken. Our National Guard has been such a critical resource in 
Connecticut in the elections, in countering ransomware, in 
building the kind of intellectual infrastructure that we need. 
As I remarked to you in our conversation, the National Guard 
draws on the expertise of citizen soldiers who are in civilian 
jobs involving information technology (IT). They are experts in 
major corporations and they are providing their expertise now 
to not only our Nation's military, through the National Guard, 
but also to civilian election officials, to local education 
efforts to deter ransomware, and I think your point about the 
University of New Haven is so well taken, the Ironclad project 
offers tremendous promise of recruiting, training, and 
retaining the talent that we need in our military, as well as 
in our civilian lives for cybersecurity and cybersecurity is 
our future.
    I thank you for the work that you are doing and that you 
are encouraging and promoting by the National Guard. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal.
    Now via Webex, let me recognize Senator Rosen.
    I thank Senator Kelly for his patience.
    Senator Rosen?
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed.
    Thank you to our witnesses for your service and, of course, 
always for being here today.
    As a former computer programmer, I am interested in 
learning how DOD's cyber strategy can really strengthen our 
Nation's ability to withstand and respond to cyberattacks.
    I would also like to recognize today, the role that Nellis 
Air Force Base plays in supporting SOCOM mission in the 
battlefield. It is really, really important and I am proud of 
our men and women there at Nellis Air Force Base.
    But I want to talk about information warfare. Despite an 
unprecedented level of foreign influence campaigns, we know 
they are targeting the United States and other democracies. We 
lack a clear strategy to combat information warfare.
    As the National Security Strategy makes clear, our 
autocratic adversaries are using aggressive, aggressive 
information warfare tactics to interfere in our democratic 
elections around the world, exploit the pandemic, and erode 
trust in the rules-based international order.
    So, General Nakasone, and then General Clarke, what is the 
appropriate role for the military to play in this environment 
of heightened information warfare?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I think the appropriate role is 
the role that we have begun playing since 2018, which is the 
perspective of how do we defend forward. The idea of operating 
outside of the United States, being able to both, enable our 
partners with information and act when authorized.
    This is an active approach to our adversaries. It has been 
most effective, as we have seen, with the 2018 and 2020 
elections with adversaries attempting to influence us, 
attempting to interfere, but not being able to do that. That is 
based upon the strategy of defend forward and the instantiation 
of persistent engagement. That is the start of it.
    As I mentioned earlier today, I also think there is a 
broader piece that is being worked right now by the 
administration in terms of how do we improve the further 
resilience of the United States as we look at adversaries 
continuing to avoid our laws and policies and try to use our 
own infrastructure in their own attempts.
    This is a continual effort that we have to be at. This is 
not going to be episodic. This is something that U.S. Cyber 
Command and the other combatant commands need to continue to 
work at.
    Senator Rosen. So, perhaps, General Clarke, you can speak 
to this. I want to add one more thing to this question now that 
you talk about defend forward.
    How do we deter our adversaries' cyber aggression by 
changing their cost-benefit analysis? How do we make it not 
worth their while to attack us and what policies are we doing 
there? When you speak about defend forward, isn't that part of 
this equation, too?
    General Clarke. Senator, you raised a great point.
    Number one, I think we have to work closely with our 
Department of State and other agencies in this space. Number 
two is that while General Nakasone talks about forces forward, 
which I agree with, we also have SOCOM forces for it that are 
absolutely the MISO [Military Information Support Operations] 
professionals that work closely with the embassies and with 
foreign partners, and that ties this ecosystem of forward all 
the way back to the capabilities and capacities that exist in 
the U.S.
    I think by working closely with those partners to ensure 
that our adversaries or competitors are not getting that free 
pass and to recognize what is truth from fiction and continue 
to highlight that through using our intel communities is 
critical.
    General Nakasone. Senator, if I might add on to that, to 
your point with regards to imposing costs, this is not just the 
Department of Defense. As General Clarke rightly points out, 
this is a Whole-of-Government effort. This is what the power of 
Treasury brings to it, the Federal Bureau of Investigations, 
Justice, Department of Homeland Security. This is the lesson 
that we have learned is that we have to operate together, 
because the partnership is where the power is.
    Senator Rosen. Well, that is great.
    I want to continue on that. We do have a Cyber Strategy. We 
have had a lot of cyber espionage.
    How often should our cyber strategy be updated to reflect 
current threats and the current challenges? How often do you 
envision that we need to do that in order to stay relevant?
    If it is 2 years old, 3 years old, it is not being 
responsive, and so I was wondering what you think would be 
appropriate for these kinds of cyber strategy reports to be 
updated.
    General Nakasone. So, we have an interim National Security 
Strategy guidance that is out, that the administration has put 
out, that has been very effective for us to start our guideline 
with it. It talks about cybersecurity as a key enabler in that. 
That is an important piece of what our Nation needs to do.
    Senator Rosen. Yeah, but actual threats, how do we let 
people stay up to date on actual threats?
    General Nakasone. Obviously, that is through the continuing 
dialogue in terms of what our intelligence community is talking 
about, obviously, what our Government is talking about, and 
also, really importantly, what the private sector is talking 
about, because they are seeing so many of these threats, 
Senator.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I believe my time has expired, 
Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rosen.
    Gentlemen, thank you for your service to the Nation and 
thank you for your testimony today.
    This will conclude the open portion of the hearing. We will 
reconvene in SCV-217 as quickly as possible.
    Thank you very much, again. The open hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:39 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

                Questions Submitted by Senator Jack Reed
         civilian oversight of u.s. special operations command
    1. Senator Reed. General Clarke, at the hearing, you stated, ``What 
I believe is a key role for [the Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Special Operations/Low-Intensity Conflict] (ASD SO/LIC) is actually to 
be an advocate for [Special Operations Command] (SOCOM), you know, 
within the department, and so when decisions are made about services 
and service budgets and service personnel decisions, having ASD SO/LIC 
in the room to be able to be that advocate for us, to me is the most 
important aspect that ASD SO/LIC can do for SOCOM.'' Do you also 
support the ASD SO/LIC's role as the ``service secretary-like'' 
civilian responsible for the oversight of SOCOM? If so, why?
    General Clarke. I absolutely support the intent of Congress for 
civilian oversight of USSOCOM from across the Department, including 
from the ASD(SO/LIC) for those Special Operations-peculiar 
administrative matters relating to the organizing, training, and 
equipping of Special Operations Forces (SOF).
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                  department of defense cyber strategy
    2. Senator Rosen. General Nakasone, to address the challenge of 
establishing deterrence in cyberspace, the Department of Defense's 
(DOD) 2018 Cyber Strategy outlined the ``defend forward'' approach--
meaning identifying our adversaries' cyber campaigns early on and 
engaging in offensive operations to disrupt the attacker's 
infrastructure. How often should U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM) be 
assessing DOD network vulnerabilities to ensure that fixes have been 
made in a timely and adequate fashion?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    3. Senator Rosen. General Nakasone, the 2018 DOD Cyber Strategy 
calls for retaining the current cyber workforce and finding talented 
new people to recruit. Legislation that I introduced authorizing a 
Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps science, technology, 
engineering, math, and cyber program was included in last year's 
National Defense Authorization Act. More needs to be done if we are to 
remain competitive on the global stage. Would you support the 
establishment of a civilian cybersecurity reserve to cultivate a 
qualified cyber workforce that supports the DOD mission?
    General Nakasone. Although that is a question for policy makers, I 
support any national initiatives that better leverage existing cyber 
talent in defense of the Nation or contribute to the expansion and 
further development of the Nation's cyber workforce. A talented cyber 
workforce is essential to maintaining our competitive edge and our 
Government should be proactive in its development.

                    cyber collaboration with allies
    4. Senator Rosen. General Nakasone, our allies are essential to 
enhancing U.S. cybersecurity. We rely on our partners to conduct threat 
hunting, enable early warning, and harden our collective defenses. How 
are you collaborating with our allies to use their unique cyber 
capabilities to support our military cyber operations, and use those 
capabilities to our collective advantage?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    5. Senator Rosen. General Nakasone, how will you enhance 
information-sharing and cooperation with NATO partners to prevent, 
mitigate and recover from cyberattacks?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                           illicit drug trade
    6. Senator Rosen. Mr. Maier and General Clarke, through the illicit 
drug trade, transnational criminal organizations are fueling 
instability in the Western Hemisphere by crippling the rule of law 
through corruption, eroding good governance, and hindering economic 
development, which also can serve as root causes of migration in the 
region. To counter these threats, I am curious what more U.S. Special 
Operations Command (SOCOM) can do to counter the illegal drug trade. 
What are the largest gaps in U.S. efforts to reduce the foreign supply 
of illicit drugs, and does SOCOM have the adequate resources to 
effectively supplement present interdiction operations?
    Mr. Maier. U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) supports U.S. 
law enforcement partners' efforts to interdict illicit drugs, disrupt 
the flow of illicit revenue to criminal networks, and counter other 
forms of transnational organized crime in the Western Hemisphere, 
including human trafficking and smuggling and illicit mining. USSOCOM 
provides this support by use of the Department of Defense's counterdrug 
authorities and appropriated funds for such purposes. In addition to 
providing intelligence analysis support to U.S. law enforcement 
partners to illuminate illicit threat networks, U.S. special operations 
forces regularly support U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) and U.S. 
Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM) efforts in the region by conducting 
training of, or alongside, partner-nation units that are responsible 
for combatting drug trafficking and transnational organized crime that 
fuel violence and instability in the region.
    USSOCOM is currently resourced appropriately to continue providing 
intelligence analysis and other support in the Western Hemisphere. 
However, I want to highlight that Section 1022 of the National Defense 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004, which authorizes USSOCOM's 
counterdrug-funded support to counter terrorism and other forms of 
transnational organized crime, is set to expire at the end of fiscal 
year 2022, if not reauthorized before then.
    General Clarke. USSOCOM assists in countering illegal drug trade by 
providing analytical support to U.S. law enforcement (LE) agencies 
through U.S.C. title 10 sect 284(b). Within USSOCOM, Counter Threat 
Finance (CTF) analytical resources can shift from supporting current 
National Defense Strategy threats to countering drug trafficking 
organizations, if directed.

    7. Senator Rosen. General Clarke, can you describe how cooperation 
with our partner nations supports our mission to weaken transnational 
criminal organizations? How can we increase the interoperability with 
our partner nations?
    General Clarke. USSOCOM supports respective Geographic Combatant 
Command Theater Campaign Plans to include approved Security Cooperation 
and Security Force Assistance activities (Sec. 333) with our partner 
nations. These activities promote interoperability with partner nations 
and increase their institutional capability and capacity to weaken 
transnational organized crime. Through support to law enforcement 
(Sec. 284), combined training (Sec. 321/322), and continued and 
enhanced focus on regional interoperability and institutional capacity 
building (Sec. 332), USSOCOM assists in enabling our partners to 
identify, generate, lead and sustain operations, in coordination with 
U.S. Forces, regional partners, or unilaterally.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe
                        hunt forward operations
    8. Senator Inhofe. General Nakasone, how do ``Hunt Forward'' 
Operations complement cooperation with our allies and partners?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    9. Senator Inhofe. General Nakasone, how are these operations 
aligned with the Pacific Deterrence Initiative and European Deterrence 
Initiative?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                                 china
    10. Senator Cotton. General Nakasone, when you appeared before this 
Committee in 2019 you said that you saw Artificial Intelligence as a 
critical enabler of CYBERCOM operations and there should be no doubt 
that our competitors also recognize the importance of Artificial 
Intelligence for their own military use. Can you describe how the 
People's Liberation Army is currently militarizing Artificial 
Intelligence and Machine Learning, and explain any significant areas we 
are already lagging behind China in those technologies?
    General Nakasone. As Commander of USCYBERCOM, I would defer to the 
Intelligence Community's China and AI experts to provide specific 
answers to this question. However, speed, agility, and the ability to 
adapt rapidly are critical to operational effectiveness in cyberspace. 
China's advances in AI are therefore a significant concern.

    11. Senator Cotton. General Nakasone, China has historically been 
willing to sell military technology, which in the future will include 
artificial intelligence (AI) and AI-enabled weapons, to state actors 
with authoritarian aspirations and to non-state actors with anti-
American views such as ISIS. What potential issues do you see the 
United States having to contend with from a national security 
perspective over the next decade, both strategically and ethically?
    General Nakasone. Although I must defer to those elements of the 
Department of Defense more closely involved with threat assessment, 
policy development and acquisition of autonomous weapons, I do see this 
as a significant area of interest, particularly when U.S. cyber 
capabilities could be employed as a remediating response.

    12. Senator Cotton. General Nakasone, the Chinese military (PLA) 
currently recognizes several areas where it lags behind the US, two of 
which are technical expertise and semiconductor manufacturing. As the 
Chinese Communist Party shores-up these capability gaps, how big a risk 
is it to the United States that the industrial base providing us with 
the most advanced semiconductor technology is located within range of 
PLA weapons?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    13. Senator Cotton. General Nakasone, China has declared their 
desire to become the World's leader in AI by the year 2030. What would 
that mean for the United States' future should Beijing surpass our own 
abilities to develop, field, and responsibly control the use of AI?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                          commercial industry
    The recent Sunburst and Hafnium hacks have exposed programs that 
are clearly operating in a seam in between commercial and governmental 
networks and property. We know you have made major progress sharing 
with commercial industry.
    14. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, what more can be done, and 
what legislation is needed, to make sharing with the commercial 
industry more effective?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                              capabilities
    15. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, do you need more human 
capital to execute your mission?
    General Nakasone. Yes, the strategic environment has changed since 
the Cyber Mission Force was designed in 2012. In summer 2020, 
USCYBERCOM conducted a force growth study as part of the Secretary of 
Defense Combatant Command Review. The Command has made recommendations 
for.force growth, which were approved by the Department of Defense. 
Specific details can be released after the President's Budget is 
approved.

    16. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, if so, how many more people 
would you need in order to meet your operational goals?
    General Nakasone. Yes, the strategic environment has changed since 
the Cyber Mission Force was designed in 2012. In summer 2020, 
USCYBERCOM conducted a force growth study as part of the Secretary of 
Defense Combatant Command Review. The Command has made recommendations 
for force growth, which were approved by the Department of Defense. 
Specific details can be released after the President's Budget is 
approved.

    17. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, what avenues do you recommend 
we pursue to get you more long-term forces to execute your missions?
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM and the Services have made progress in 
recruiting and retaining the talent we need to deliver joint force 
objectives for the Nation. At this time, we are moving forward to 
source and field additional teams as approved in the Department's 2020 
Combatant Command Review.

    18. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, some suggest that ``cyber vs 
cyber'' actions do not work. What do you say to that?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    19. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, if we refrain from acting in 
a ``cyber vs cyber'' framework to disincentive these behaviors, what do 
you think we should be doing?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

    20. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, how do you see the balance 
between collection opportunities in cyberspace and the need to use 
cyberspace for defensive or deterrent activity?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                         persistent engagement
    The Cyber Strategy lays out an ambitious vision for the Cyber 
National Mission Force in particular: disrupting adversary 
cyberattacks, providing indication and warning to potential targets at 
home, and engaging with adversaries below the level of armed conflict 
on a daily basis.
    21. Senator Tillis. General Nakasone, nation state actors are 
becoming bolder and more destructive within cyberspace. What do you see 
as the right strategy to stop these acts?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]

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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
       special operations command as a model for the joint force
    22. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, I understand that the JAIC 
and SOCOM are working together to deliver AI-enabled predictive 
maintenance capabilities. Can you describe that partnership, and 
whether it has proven effective?
    General Clarke. USSOCOM and the JAIC formed the USSOCOM Incubator 
in fiscal year 2019 consisting of technical experts from the teams at 
the JAIC Joint Logistics Mission Initiative and the 160th Special 
Operations Regiment's (SOAR) Digital Integrated Maintenance Environment 
(DIME). The USSOCOM Incubator enables rapid development of AI-enabled 
capabilities in an agile environment where warfighters and developers 
work collaboratively together.
    The USSOCOM Incubator orchestrates testing, evaluation, 
operationalization, and retraining of AI-enabled capabilities, as well 
as developing extensive Technical Solutions documents in support of a 
broader playbook within the DOD for AI development. The Work Unit Code 
(WUC) Corrector is an example of a powerful AI capability that uses 
Natural Language Processing (NLP) to analyze user-generated text within 
maintenance records to assign an appropriate WUC to each record. More 
than 3 million records have been processed by the WUC Corrector and 
routed through the reliability business intelligence (BI) tools, 
focusing engineering services to the highest priority issues.
    Additionally, the Model at the Edge (MaTE) Kit is designed for 
units operating in locations with limited bandwidth networks for all 
communications. The MaTE Kit was developed as an ``all-in-one'' 
solution to enable AI and analytics at the edge, including moving large 
aviation maintenance data sets across a network. The MaTE Kit is a 
specialized laptop computer running the required processes and services 
to conduct data collection, processing, storage, prediction, and a 
visualization of the AI-enabled predictions in a custom browser-based 
user interface. This capability provides leadership with near real-time 
predictions to make timely maintenance decisions that decrease 
maintenance downtime, while increasing both capital efficiency and 
aircraft readiness. The MaTE Kit was developed to support current AI 
models and future AI-enabled capability development. All processes and 
services within the MaTE Kit are government-owned and developed by 
USSOCOM.

    23. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, as a proof of concept, do 
you think this is something that could be applied to the joint force?
    General Clarke. Yes. The predictive maintenance partnership between 
USSOCOM and the JAIC demonstrates the value of collaboration to solve 
complex problems that are designed to scale. The capabilities developed 
to address maintenance challenges at the 160th SOAR have numerous 
applications and both USSOCOM and the JAIC are committed to scaling 
these capabilities to the larger joint enterprise.
    The JAIC selected the MH-60 platform as the initial focus area for 
predictive maintenance because variations of that platform are used 
extensively across USSOCOM, Army, Navy, Air Force, and the Coast Guard. 
The software and models developed for USSOCOM's MH-60 are just one 
example of joint proofs-of-concept with potential to scale across the 
global DOD Enterprise. Internally, USSOCOM is already leveraging some 
of these scalable AI-enabled capabilities within Air Force Special 
Operations Command to develop software and models applied to the CV-22 
aircraft while concurrently exploring similar capabilities for ground, 
sea, and surface vehicles.
    USSOCOM and the JAIC are also pursuing transition from the USSOCOM 
Incubator at the 160th SOAR to a production ready, globally scalable 
AI-enabled capability available to the entire Department. The intent of 
the USSOCOM Incubator is to rapidly develop AI-enabled capabilities 
that scale in a joint environment. The Technical Solutions documents 
serve to guide other DOD organizations down the path to a successful 
predictive maintenance program.

    24. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, how do you see AI predictive 
maintenance applications changing the role of asset management within 
some of our technical and man-hour intensive platforms?
    General Clarke. Asset management across the Department will 
transform significantly through the broad application of predictive 
applications. Maintenance issues on our technical and man-hour 
intensive platforms are often more reactive than predictive, at times 
resulting in significant costs to repair and impacts to downtime. 
Simply following a prescribed schedule of maintenance based on time is 
no longer sufficient. The more effectively and accurately USSOCOM can 
leverage data, analytics, and AI-enabled capabilities, the greater the 
opportunity to minimize expenditure and increase readiness. Predictive 
maintenance is becoming an integral part of USSOCOM's asset management 
strategy, especially for complex and technically intensive platforms 
where repairs are cheaper and faster when identified earlier than when 
a part or system had already failed.
 special operations command talent retention and work force development
    25. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, do those personnel that 
comprise ``non-SOF support'' generally receive SOF-specific training to 
enable them to perform their support role? What about pay and 
entitlement incentives that exceed what their conventional force 
counterparts?
    General Clarke. USSOCOM ``non-SOF support'' personnel receive SOF-
specific training tailored to support various SOF missions in their 
respective units and based on their assignments. Additionally, these 
members may receive monetary compensation beyond their conventional 
force counterparts depending on assignment location. A few examples are 
in U.S. Army Special Operations Command and Air Force Special 
Operations Command, where qualified ``non-SOF support'' NCOs receive 
Special Duty Assignment Pay or reenlistment bonuses based assignment 
location, and Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command, where 
Specialty Operator Capability Specialists receive $150 in Assignment 
Pay based on their role on the tactical team.

    26. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, when recycled back into the 
conventional forces after their SOCOM tour is done, do you believe 
these types of personnel are inclined to remain in service and why?
    General Clarke. USSOCOM nor its Service Components have the ability 
to determine whether personnel returning to conventional forces are 
inclined to remain in service. However, we encourage all who have 
served in the Special Operations enterprise to continue to serve our 
Nation and to share and employ the skills they have acquired during 
their tenure with USSOCOM.
           unconventional warfare in great power competition
    27. Senator Blackburn. General Clarke, does SOCOM have the 
resources and authorities necessary to pursue the application of 
unconventional warfare measures in countering China?
    General Clarke. USSOCOM has the forces and authorities available to 
conduct congressionally funded and authorized operations such as 1202 
projects, Section 333 Security Cooperation / Build Partner Capacity 
efforts, and some Military Information Support Operations initiatives. 
However, most of our operations conducted by SOF are funded through 
USSOCOM Major Force Program-11. As far as the authorities to apply 
unconventional warfare measures are concerned, I assess USSOCOM has the 
needed authorities to operate within the recently released Interim 
National Security Strategic Guidance and current National Defense 
Strategy guidelines. USSOCOM would require the commensurate authority 
to expand our efforts should the environment change to allow expanded 
measures in countering China.
  assistant secretary of defense for special operations/low-intensity 
                                conflict
    28. Senator Blackburn. Mr. Maier and General Clarke, what have been 
the effects of ASD SO/LIC serving in a ``service secretary-like'' role?
    Mr. Maier. The Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special 
Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict (ASD(SO/LIC)) provides oversight 
of the SOF enterprise through the administrative chain of command for 
USSOCOM. ASD(SO/LIC) oversight has been particularly important in 
addressing complex challenges related to special operations forces 
(SOF) personnel and the development, resourcing, and sustainment of 
SOF-unique capabilities. Senior civilian leadership that is outside a 
uniformed chain of command provides an independent voice to the 
Secretary of Defense, with DOD senior leadership in the Pentagon, and 
with USSOCOM leadership and staff.
    Since the Secretariat for Special Operations was established in 
2018, the office of the ASD(SO/LIC) has deepened its relationship with 
USSOCOM at all levels and has made progress in gaining membership in 
senior Departmental policymaking bodies, including participation in the 
bi-weekly Military Department Secretary meeting with the Secretary of 
Defense. The Department is currently updating relevant guidance 
regarding ASD(SO/LIC)'s oversight and management of SOF-related 
administrative matters, through which the office reports directly to 
the Secretary of Defense as a Principal Staff Assistant, and ASD(SO/
LIC)'s role as a policy advisor to the Under Secretary of Defense for 
Policy and to the Secretary of Defense for special operations, 
counterterrorism, and irregular warfare matters.
    These efforts strengthen the authorities of the office of ASD(SO/
LIC) and help ensure civilian oversight of the most critical issues 
facing the SOF enterprise, including diversity and inclusion within the 
SOF community, SOF culture and ethics, and investments in technologies 
and capabilities that will enhance our ability to compete more 
effectively with great-power adversaries and conduct counterterrorism 
operations more sustainably.
    General Clarke. The inclusion of ASD(SO/LIC) allows SOF equities to 
maintain readiness and ensure SOF is linked with the Joint Force in 
support of national strategic objectives. ASD(SO/LIC)'s voice in the 
development of national defense strategic guidance will ensure the 
inclusion of SOF's unique capabilities as part of the Joint Force. 
Likewise, ASD(SO/LIC)'s participation in Service-level fora on the 
Department's priorities for countering extremism, prevention of sexual 
harassment and assault, and diversity and inclusion enhance USSOCOM's 
actions in these areas. Longer-term, I foresee enhanced readiness of 
SOF with ASD(SO/LIC)'s inclusion in Department-level fora discussing 
joint capabilities given SOF's reliance on the Services as partners in 
developing our unique organizations, training, and equipping.
                        critical infrastructure
    29. Senator Blackburn. General Nakasone, what exercises and 
activities do you assess to be most important to the success of the 
Guard's provision of cybersecurity assistance?
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM conducts extensive exercises to 
prepare for Total Force support to civil authorities and responses to 
cyber incidents of national consequence. For example, USCYBERCOM has 
partnered with the National Guard in a broad span of exercises--Cyber 
Flag, Cyber Guard, and Cyber Shield--for almost a decade. Such 
exercises are designed to ensure the cyber Total Force, both Active 
Duty and National Guard, are trained to the same standard, able to 
share best practices, and are prepared to work in mutual support and 
collaboration in defense of the Nation's critical infrastructure. 
USCYBERCOM also sets the training standards and has leveraged the 
National Guard in critical real-world missions, such as securing 
critical cyber infrastructure and defending the 2020 elections from 
foreign interference.

    30. Senator Blackburn. General Nakasone, in what way could the DOD 
better develop common architectures, tool suites, and practices for the 
National Guard and Cyber Mission Forces to provide cybersecurity 
assistance to critical infrastructure companies?
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM is focused on ensuring that forces 
across the Total Force are interoperable. Active duty and Reserve 
Component Cyber Protection Teams operate within similar mission 
platforms and with similar tool suites. Additionally, we also worked 
with the National Guard Bureau to create a mechanism that enable Guard 
units to share information about cyber incidents quickly, easily, and 
uniformly (the Cyber 9-line). We work in conjunction with sector-
specific agencies to understand requirements and prepare for responses 
to appropriate requests for support to civil authorities when required.
                            defense forward
    31. Senator Blackburn. General Nakasone, what good is CYBERCOM's 
Cyber National Mission Force doing for the private sector?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                              afghanistan
    32. Senator Hawley. General Clarke, since you took command in March 
2019, has SOCOM provided the Secretary of Defense with options for 
pursuing United States counterterrorism objectives in Afghanistan 
following the withdrawal of all United States and Coalition forces from 
Afghanistan, including in the event of Afghan state collapse?
    General Clarke. USSOCOM is a supporting command to United States 
Central Command (USCENTCOM) for the conflict in Afghanistan, and 
USSOCOM would assist Commander, USCENTCOM to provide options to the 
SECDEF. USSOCOM has worked and continues to work closely with the Joint 
Staff, OSD, Interagency and fellow Combatant Commanders to develop 
United States counterterrorism options in Afghanistan post-withdrawal 
of all United States and Coalition forces.

 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        TUESDAY, APRIL 13, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                   UNITED STATES EUROPEAN COMMAND AND
                  UNITED STATES TRANSPORTATION COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:32 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Peters, Manchin, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, 
Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, 
Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order.
    This morning, the Committee will receive testimony from 
General Wolters, Commander, United States European Command 
(EUCOM), and North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR), and General Lyons, 
Commander, United States Transportation Command, TRANSCOM.
    Thank you both for the many decades of military service and 
please extend our appreciation to the men and women serving 
under your command.
    General Lyons, this is likely your last hearing before the 
Committee and on behalf of my colleagues, I want to thank you, 
and your family, for a lifetime of dedication and service to 
the Nation, which continues with your son, who is now a cadet 
at West Point. So, the tradition goes forward. Thank you.
    The security challenges in the EUCOM area of responsibility 
grow more complex each year. Russia continues to subvert the 
rules-based international order, including using military force 
to intimidate and coerce its neighbors and to undermine their 
sovereignty. Russia is also engaged in an ongoing hybrid 
warfare campaign just below the threshold of conflict that 
would provoke a military response, including disinformation 
campaigns targeting democratic processes and formenting 
discourse, extensive cyber espionage efforts, and the continued 
use of proxy groups to further Russian interests in numerous 
countries around the world. Combating the Russian hybrid threat 
requires a whole-of-government effort.
    General Wolters, I will be interested to hear your views on 
the military means required as part of that whole-of-government 
effort, as well as what support we can provide our allies and 
partners as they seek to counter Russian malign influence.
    Last week EUCOM raised its watch condition level in Ukraine 
from ``possible crisis'' to ``potential imminent crisis'' in 
response to significant Russian military activity in Ukraine 
and across Europe. The Committee will benefit from your 
assessment of the current security situation and an update on 
EUCOM's engagements with partners and allies in response to the 
Ukrainian situation.
    Consistent with the 2018 National Defense Strategy, EUCOM 
continues to refine the operational concepts, plans, and 
programs necessary to counter Russia in the strategic 
competition that defines this theater. The United States must 
ensure a combat-credible military deterrent against Russia's 
ambitions to threaten the sovereignty of our allies and 
partners.
    General Wolters, the Committee would like to hear your 
views on the posture and investments necessary to attain and 
maintain deterrence.
    Turning to TRANSCOM, the men and women of TRANSCOM perform 
duties that sustain the whole of the Department of Defense, in 
protecting our Nation's security. With the competitive edge in 
its ability to deploy and sustain America's armed forces, 
TRANSCOM provides Department of Defense (DOD) with unique 
capabilities that we have come to expect and, perhaps too 
frequently, take for granted. TRANSCOM forces are busy 
supporting all of the combatant commanders every day, and 
without them, the United States would be at a significant 
disadvantage almost everywhere in the world.
    General Lyons, last year you were adamant about retaining 
air fueling capability because you felt that TRANSCOM was at 
the minimum acceptable levels for meeting peacetime demand for 
tanker capacity. This year, I understand the Air Mobility 
Command believes that TRANSCOM can rely on some contribution of 
the KC-46 tankers, even though the KC-46 is not able to conduct 
unrestricted operations. I would be interested in any 
information you can share on this situation.
    Our global transportation capability, owned or managed by 
TRANSCOM, has been one of our asymmetric advantages for many 
years now. However, we cannot assume that potential adversaries 
will allow us free rein in this area in the future. Two years 
ago, the Committee decided that the Department needed to 
continue the analytical effort to identify requirements because 
the studies presented at that time did not reflect 
implementation of the National Defense Strategy. General Lyons, 
perhaps you could give us an update on where TRANSCOM stands in 
updating this analysis.
    General Lyons, you have initiated a program to contract out 
management of the Defense Personal Property Program (DP3) that 
handles the movement of household goods for DOD.
    Under this plan, a contractor team would be responsible for 
issuing contracts to individual movers and carriers, rather 
than the U.S Government.
    After a competition last year, TRANSCOM awarded the 
contract, but the losing bidders protested the award, and 
Government Accountability Office (GAO) upheld the protest. 
General Lyons, I would be interested in hearing about the 
status of this program.
    Finally, TRANSCOM also faces a unique set of cyber threats 
because of the command's extensive work with private-sector 
entities in the transportation and shipping industries. General 
Lyons, the Committee would appreciate an update on TRANSCOM's 
effort to improve its cybersecurity posture.
    Again, thank you both again for being here this morning, 
and I look forward to your testimony.
    Before I turn it over to Senator Inhofe, I would just note, 
for my colleagues, that there will be an informal classified 
briefing immediately following this session in the Senate 
Security Building Office in the Capitol.
    Senator Inhofe, please?

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I would just acknowledge both of our witnesses as very good 
friends and I would say to General Lyons, it is not too late to 
change your mind.
    As stated, many times before, this Committee's top priority 
is to ensure the effective implementation of the NDS, the 
National Defense Strategy, which focuses on China and Russia as 
the primary threats to our national security.
    That means that we have to ensure that our combatant 
commands have what they need to address the challenges in this 
strategic competition. We are going to be talking about that 
with both of our witnesses, and you have got to be really, and 
I am sure you will be, very straightforward with some of the 
reductions that, as I see, are not going to be desirable.
    I want to highlight that Russia's recent activities 
regarding Ukraine are very concerning. At the same time, Russia 
and Chinese threats are converging in Europe with an ever-more 
aggressive China seeking influence and threatening security 
through the economic coercion.
    These growing threats, there are three that highlight the 
value of our 2018 NDS and, secondly, they illustrate why we 
should not be reducing defense spending, and, thirdly, 
demonstrate the critical need for more advanced capabilities 
like the F-35, to deter Russia, particularly since there have 
been some controversy over that from some of the leadership of 
this administration.
    TRANSCOM is focused on a full-spectrum mobility operations 
to meet requirements needed to combat both, Russia and China, 
as well as support any other global engagements, from training 
to force projection to forward deployed forces.
    I encouraged to hear the administration's voice's strong 
support for NATO, but, you know, the rhetoric is easy. We want 
to make sure we have the resources to support those statements 
that are being made.
    General Wolters, I look forward to hearing about the 
priorities for the European Deterrence Initiative and where 
else we need to bolster our defenses to address threats you see 
growing every day.
    General Lyons, I would like to know the status of our 
refueling capability that the chairman has always addressed, as 
well as, he has addressed the global household goods contacts. 
We have some specific questions about that.
    Finally, whether this morning or in our classified session, 
I would like to hear from both of you as to how this contested 
environment impacts mobility operations.
    General Lyons, you have been a friend for a long time, and 
as I said, it is not too late.
    Mr. Chairman?
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe.
    Now, let me recognize General Wolters for your opening 
statement.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL TOD D. WOLTERS, USAF, COMMANDER, UNITED 
  STATES EUROPEAN COMMAND/NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION 
                SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER EUROPE

    General Wolters. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, on behalf of the men, 
women, and families who serve the Nation in the Euro-Atlantic, 
we want to thank you one more time for your steadfast support. 
It remains a privilege to serve alongside these patriots and 
our like-minded allies and partners.
    It is great to be lying abreast with our distinguished 
USTRANSCOM commander, General Steve Lyons. He has led with 
distinction for the last 2\1/2\ years in his capacity and over 
the last year, he has been pivotal in not allowing the pandemic 
to transform into a security crisis, and we thank him for his 
blood, sweat, and tears to the Nation.
    We would also like to pass our condolences to those 
impacted by COVID-19. The battle against the virus continues 
and we must remain vigilant.
    We are fully aligned with Secretary Austin's priorities to 
defend the Nation, take care of our people, and succeed through 
teamwork. Via NATO, we work closely with our allies and 
partners to address the evolving challenges posed by our 
adversaries to secure peace, and protect our interests abroad. 
NATO remains the strategic center of gravity and the foundation 
of deterrence and assurance in Europe.
    Everything we do is about generating peace. We compete to 
win. We deter, and if deterrence fails, we are prepared to 
respond to aggression with the full weight of the Transatlantic 
Alliance.
    The United States' relationships with European allies and 
partners remains a key, strategic advantage and we must defend 
it. We live in an increasingly complex and contested world. 
Political uncertainty, energy competition, and diffusion of 
disruptive technology are stressing the established rules-based 
international order. Threats and challengers seek to take 
advantage of these conditions through aggressive action using 
all instruments of national power and they are backed by 
increasingly capable military forces. Adversaries amplify these 
malign activities and foster instability with disinformation.
    Success in 21st century warfare demands that we embrace 
competition and all of its associated activities below the 
level of armed conflict. This is actually as critical as our 
preparation for crisis or conflict, themselves. We are in an 
era of strategic competition and winning in this era is all 
about ensuring that strategic competition does not morph into a 
global conflict.
    One notable example of operations, activities, and 
investments contributing to competition and deterrence, it is 
our robust exercise program. This summer, when we execute our 
Defender series exercises, composed of USEUCOM's Defender 
Europe, and NATO's steadfast defender, 30,000 United States 
servicemembers, allies, and partners from all warfare domains, 
will demonstrate their ability to lift and shift massive forces 
over large swaths of territory at speed, and at scale, from the 
Atlantic, to the eastern periphery of the European continent. 
Once our troopers are on station, they will sharpen their 
responsiveness, resiliency, and lethality.
    Our current security posture is strong, yet challenged, as 
evidenced by actions in the vicinity of Ukraine. We possess 
combat-credible capability across all domains: air, land, sea, 
space, and cyber. We will maintain and work to hone this 
capability to deter our adversaries and defensive partners in 
our interests.
    The soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, coast 
guardsmen, and civilians of USEUCOM, appreciate your support to 
defend the Homeland forward and preserve peace for the one 
billion citizens living in the Euro-Atlantic.
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, thank you, again, for 
this opportunity, and I look forward to fielding your 
questions.
    [The prepared of General Wolters follows:]

 Prepared Statement by General Tod D. Wolters, United States Air Force
    Armed Services Committee, on behalf of the dedicated men, women, 
and their families preserving peace in the European theater, it is an 
honor to testify before you today a second time as United States 
European Command (USEUCOM) Commander. It is a privilege to continue to 
serve alongside our dedicated patriots in a mission essential to 
national security. Their selfless service and determined commitment is 
an inspiration. Together, with likeminded allies and partners, our 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, coast guardsmen, guardians, and 
civilians work tirelessly to deliver peace and secure the United 
States' interests.
    For the last eight decades, many European nations have been key 
allies and partners for the United States and today they collectively 
serve as exporters of global peace and security. The interim National 
Security Strategy articulates how a free, and prosperous Europe, 
defended by Allied nations and a credible North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization (NATO) Alliance, remains foundational to our security in a 
competitive geopolitical environment. USEUCOM aligns operations, 
activities, and investments to meet the challenges of Strategic 
Competition with Russia and the People's Republic of China. Through our 
strategy, we compete for long-term sustainable advantage, deter attacks 
from potential aggressors, and prepare our Allies and Partners to 
respond decisively. Standing alongside our Allies and Partners, USEUCOM 
remains ready, should deterrence fail, to fight now and win. We value 
the collaborative work across the Joint Force to implement this 
strategy and express gratitude for continued Congressional interest and 
support.
    In Europe, political uncertainty, energy competition, malign 
activity, and the global pandemic stress the rules-based international 
order and strain European states' resources. Strategic competitors seek 
to exploit these conditions using all instruments of their national 
power to gain advantage and create instability. This nexus challenges 
national governments and multi-national institutions like NATO and the 
European Union (EU). To address these issues, USEUCOM strategy 
prioritizes supporting NATO's deterrence and defense of the Euro-
Atlantic United States global operations.
    Risks and Challenges in the USEUCOM Area of Responsibility (AOR)
    The USEUCOM AOR encompasses 51 countries and territories, including 
Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, and the Caucasus. It contains significant 
maritime domains, encompassing the Arctic Region, the North and Central 
Atlantic, and the Mediterranean Sea. COVID-19 has presented challenges 
for nations across the globe, including those in Europe, and our 
deepest condolences are offered to all those impacted by this pandemic. 
In USEUCOM, we continue working diligently alongside Allies and 
Partners to ensure this health crisis does not become a security 
crisis. Thus far, our collective team has been successful, and we are 
buoyed through recent developments in vaccine production and 
distribution across the USEUCOM AOR.
                                 russia
    Russia's nuclear arsenal and strike capability provides Russia an 
opportunity to remain an enduring, existential threat to the United 
States, our Allies, and our Partners. A central concern is Russia's 
non-strategic nuclear weapons stockpile and the Kremlin's potential to 
use these weapons in crisis or conflict. President Biden agreed with 
President Putin to conduct a Strategic Stability Dialogue, which will 
allow the United States to raise our concerns about Russia's nuclear 
forces and doctrine. Beneath this threshold, Russia engages in malign 
activities across the globe, attempting to create instability, 
undermining the rules-based international order, and failing to meet 
obligations under international agreements. These activities continue 
despite widespread international condemnation and economic sanctions. 
Russian President Vladimir Putin and his regime's coercive and 
aggressive policies suggest Russian leadership will take risks to 
maintain power, counter Western influence, and seize international 
opportunities to increase the perception of Russia as a great power.
    Russia seeks to maintain a sphere of influence by retaining and 
employing capabilities above and below the level of armed conflict to 
coerce neighboring sovereign nations and fracture its responsibilities 
under the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, and retains an 
active presence on sovereign soil in Ukraine, Moldova, and Georgia 
against the will of those countries. To support their efforts at 
political subversion and economic intimidation, Russia employs 
unconventional tools, ranging from disinformation campaigns, malicious 
cyber activities, and the use of private military companies. These 
tools support a range of semi-covert, malign actions to intimidate, 
weaken, and divide our Allies and Partners in the European theater and 
beyond. By probing Western response thresholds to expand the space 
below the level of armed conflict, Russian leadership habitually risks 
misinterpreting warnings and creating unintended escalation.
    Over the past decade, Russia consistently remained among the 
world's top five military spenders. Despite a forecasted decrease in 
Russian Gross Domestic Product due to the pandemic, Russia will 
continue its military modernization efforts. These robust capabilities 
and modernized forces have been displayed during operations in Ukraine, 
Syria, and Libya. As a result, the Kremlin has growing confidence in 
its military leadership and menu of hybrid, conventional, strategic, 
and non-strategic nuclear capabilities needed to underwrite its 21st 
century security approach. Today, Russia underpins its military force 
posture with Integrated Air Defense Systems (IADS), cyber and 
electronic warfare systems, counter-space, and long-range precision 
fires capabilities; all critical to seizing and maintaining the 
initiative across the competition to conflict spectrum.
                    people's republic of china (prc)
    The PRC's aggressive economic and diplomatic activities in the 
USEUCOM AOR signal Beijing's desire to build influence in Europe and 
challenge the established rules-based international order with an 
alternative model. Beijing pursues economic leverage over targeted 
nations through bilateral deals to build infrastructure, and secures 
agreements to its advantage in global trade and market access. Chinese 
foreign direct investment and government-backed business ventures 
provide Beijing an avenue to assert influence at the expense of 
enduring United States, Allied, and Partner interests. Seventeen 
Central and Eastern European nations participate in the China-led, 17+1 
Cooperation Framework though there are indications that participants 
are more skeptical about its merits. Many European countries, including 
the 17+1, take part in China's One Belt One Road Initiative.
    The PRC is focused on seizing the ``high ground'' in critical and 
emerging technology sectors with military application, including 
Artificial Intelligence, advanced robotics, quantum technologies, and 
hypersonics. In addition, the PRC's efforts to expand 5G networks into 
Europe through state-backed firms like Huawei and ZTE pose security 
risks. These networks place intellectual property, sensitive 
technology, and private personal information at heightened risk of 
acquisition and exploitation by the Chinese Government. This ongoing 
initiative, coupled with China's growing interest and investment in 
European ports and critical infrastructure, complicates steady state 
and contingency operations. We articulate this risk to our European 
defense counterparts and highlight shared values, interests, and 
equitable business practices that distinguish the United States as a 
partner of choice. European nations are becoming increasingly aware of, 
and concerned about, the risks associated with Chinese capital and 
investment from the PRC. We must hold the PRC accountable for its 
predatory and unfair practices and make sure that our technologies are 
not facilitating the PRC's military buildup or human rights abuses.
                         poland and the baltics
    Poland and the Baltics remain a strategic focal point. For NATO, 
this region remains at risk of Russian aggression based on historical 
grievances and geographic position. Polish and Baltic geopolitical 
alignment with the West reminds the Kremlin of its limited sphere of 
control, isolation of its Kaliningrad exclave, and NATO's appeal to 
regional states. The Kremlin considers the Baltic's ethnic Russian 
population as justification for intervention. Russia actively targets 
this population with extensive propaganda and malign influence 
operations, while also conducting cyber operations to weaken Alliance 
resolve. Because Russian forces in the Western Military District and 
Kaliningrad hold a geographic and numerical advantage over regional 
NATO forces, it is critical that timely indications and warnings are 
available to position combat-capable forces to deter and, if deterrence 
fails, blunt attack.
    Regional Allies continue to demonstrate their commitment to 
collective defense. Enhanced Forward Presence bolsters NATO's posture 
in the east with four multinational battle groups in Estonia, Latvia, 
Lithuania, and Poland. NATO air and missile defense forces reinforce 
collective security and stability through Baltic air policing 
operations and air defense exercises. Poland demonstrates resolve to 
meet Alliance commitments through defense budget increases, burden-
sharing with the United States via the Enhanced Defense Cooperation 
Agreement, and ongoing modernization efforts, to include Patriot and F-
35 weapon system acquisitions. Poland also hosts the United States 
Army's V Corps forward headquarters in Poznan, Poland, providing a 
needed level of command and control to synchronize United States Army, 
Allied, and Partner nation tactical formations operating in Europe.
                            black sea region
Ukraine
    Following the purported annexation of Crimea in 2014, Russia and 
its proxies continue to undermine Ukrainian defense, economic, and 
political sectors, attempting to pull Ukraine back into the Kremlin's 
sphere of influence and obstruct its integration with Western 
institutions. The ongoing conflict in the Donbas region, instigated by 
Russia, continues to destabilize Ukrainian security. Ceasefire 
violations occur often despite the established Minsk agreements. Russia 
continues to subvert the Ukrainian Government through malicious cyber 
activities, supports illegitimate elections in Eastern Ukraine, and 
remains postured for the use of force in the Black Sea and Sea of Azov. 
Contrary to Russia's intent, these coercive actions energize Ukrainian 
society and reinforce aspirations to membership in Euro-Atlantic 
institutions. Ukraine continues to fight corruption and enact defense 
reform to meet conditionality requirements associated with the Ukraine 
Security Assistance Initiative (USAI).
Turkey
    Despite political tensions and disagreements, Turkey remains a 
strategic United States Ally, critical to NATO and United States 
interests in Europe, Eurasia, North Africa, and the Middle East. Turkey 
possesses the second largest military in NATO and borders a volatile 
region. In addition to hosting thousands of United States personnel at 
sites across Turkey, the Turkish Armed Forces contribute to NATO 
missions in Afghanistan, Kosovo, and the Mediterranean Sea. United 
States forces in Turkey also support NATO ballistic missile defense and 
facilitate regional counter-terrorism operations.
    Ankara continues to view the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK), the 
Democratic Union Party (PYD), and Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) as 
security threats. United States support for the SDF remains an area of 
difficulty in our bilateral security relationship. Turkey's purchase of 
the Russian produced S-400 air defense system ended Turkey's F-35 
acquisition, further integration into NATO's IAMD Command and Control 
network, and resulted in sanctions for conducting significant 
transactions with Russia's defense industry through the Countering 
America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act.
    However, Turkey retains a pivotal role in countering Russia. 
Ankara's relationship with Moscow remains competitive and 
transactional, with Turkish engagement often aimed at constraining 
Russian behavior. Both nations view the Black Sea region within their 
natural spheres of influence, and each continues to oppose the other in 
Libya. Turkey can best counter Russia through bilateral cooperation 
with the United States and multilateral cooperation with NATO.
                             south caucasus
    The Kremlin exerts influence over South Caucasus countries through 
the manipulation of regional tensions and unresolved military 
conflicts. The Kremlin believes chronic instability in this area 
enables Russian regional hegemony. Russia maintains leverage over 
Georgia by occupying Abkhazia and South Ossetia, blocking free movement 
of people and goods within Georgia's territory, detaining and harassing 
civilians living in and near occupied areas, and undermining Georgia's 
NATO membership aspirations. After brokering a ceasefire arrangement 
between Armenia and Azerbaijan in November 2020, Russia increased its 
military presence in the region by deploying 2,000 troops to Nagorno-
Karabakh as peacekeepers. Russia continues to sell military systems and 
hardware to both sides in the Nagorno-Karabakh.
                                balkans
    The Balkans remain a strategically significant region where 
Russian, and now Chinese, malign influence and existing ethnic tensions 
foster instability. Russia uses social and political tensions to impede 
Euro-Atlantic alignment and integration. China's emergence as an 
alternative patron for economic and defense cooperation, under suspect 
terms, further disrupts the region. Nonetheless, North Macedonia's NATO 
accession in March 2020 is a regional success story.
    Despite Kosovo declaring independence in 2008, Russia, China, and 
other states (including some EU and NATO members) have yet to recognize 
its sovereign nation status. Kosovo and neighboring Serbia have yet to 
normalize relations. We encourage both parties to maintain dialogue 
towards a peaceful solution. Kosovo's principal stabilizing force 
remains NATO's Kosovo Force (KFOR), which includes a small, but 
significant United States contribution that bolsters United States 
political leverage in the region. KFOR enables the security conditions 
required for normalization of Serbia-Kosovo relations and the planned 
10-year transition of the Kosovo Security Force from 2018 to 2028.
    Serbia seeks balance between East (Russia and China) and the West, 
but finds its EU ambitions hindered by Russian-stoked internal 
corruption, structural and economic challenges, EU-Russia sanctions, 
and the requirement to normalize Kosovo relations. Bosnia and 
Herzegovina continues to face political and ethnic instability. Fueled 
by Russian influence, obstructionists seek greater autonomy for Bosnia 
and Herzegovina's Serb-majority political entity, Republika Srpska, to 
weaken state authorities and frustrate further alignment with Western 
institutions. Nationalist politics and entrenched ethnic divisions 
between Bosniaks, Bosnian-Croats, and Bosnian-Serbs challenge Bosnia 
and Herzegovina's ability to chart a path of lasting stability and 
eventual NATO membership.
    Chinese investments focus on large-scale transportation, energy, 
and information infrastructure. USEUCOM is concerned about Chinese 
motives as these initiatives expose EU and NATO member states to 
coercion and adversely affect the security of critical infrastructure. 
Furthermore, China continues to expand its defense and security ties 
with Serbia, particularly via high-level visits, unmanned aerial 
vehicle technology dependency, and joint exercises.
                 central atlantic and the arctic region
    The Central Atlantic encompasses the maritime approaches to the 
Homeland and the transatlantic Sea Lines of Communication. Rarely 
navigated by Russia since the 1990's, advances in its submarine fleet 
and expanding maritime strategic goals have reinvigorated Russia's 
access to the broader Atlantic Ocean. As a global common, the Atlantic 
Ocean must remain open and free to facilitate commerce between Europe, 
the United States, and other international markets. It is imperative 
that we maintain our competitive advantage in the Central Atlantic 
through bolstered U.S. and Allied presence to defend the Homeland 
forward and maintain free and open transatlantic sea lines of 
communication.
    We ensure these vital sea lines of communication remain open by 
securing the Greenland, Iceland, and United Kingdom gap, enabling 
access between the Atlantic and Arctic. USEUCOM coordinates with 
USNORTHCOM in these regions to provide a comprehensive approach to 
regional and homeland security. In the Arctic, Russia continues to 
militarize the region by introducing offensive capabilities that pose 
risks to United States and Allied forces and limit regional access. 
Collaborating with Allies and Partners, we work to enhance 
interoperability and proficiency, while demonstrating collective 
resolve to counter malign behavior. The Arctic remains a geopolitical 
zone of competition, driven by the opening of commercial shipping 
routes and increased access to resources including energy, minerals, 
and fisheries. We expect these activities and region focus to increase 
as the effects of climate change continue to be realized.
    The existing rules-based order benefits all Arctic nations by 
facilitating sustainable economic development, fostering cooperation, 
and ensuring a stable conflict-free region. As a strategic corridor, a 
more open and active Arctic region will increasingly connect the United 
States Homeland, Europe, and the Indo-Pacific. China, declaring itself 
a ``near-Arctic'' power, invests in both Russian energy and the 
Northern Sea Route and seeks economic footholds among Arctic nations to 
gain influence over regional governance. In concert with our Allies and 
Partners, via a whole-of-government and whole-of-nations approach, 
USEUCOM must continue to maintain a credible Arctic deterrence to 
ensure that growing competition in this dynamic region does not lead to 
conflict.
                 violent extremist organizations (veo)
    We continue to support United States interagency counter-VEO 
initiatives. These organizations remain a transnational threat with 
decentralized command and control, finance, and facilitation networks 
spreading from conflict zones into Europe. In particular, VEOs threaten 
to attack the
    United States and European Allies, including through weapons of 
mass destruction. Extremists exploit instability in North Africa, Iraq, 
and Syria to husband resources in the face of coalition counter 
efforts. VEO inspired and organized attacks in Europe further 
complicate integration efforts, potentially isolating refugee and 
migrant communities and making some members of these populations more 
vulnerable to recruitment. Despite diminished capabilities, the Islamic 
State of Iraq and Syria and other VEOs desire to conduct external 
operations, requiring global vigilance to prevent a resurgence and 
preclude future attacks against the United States Homeland, Europe, and 
our Allies and Partners.
                                 israel
    Israel remains a critical United States partner facing complex and 
evolving security challenges. Iran continues to expand its regional 
influence, to provide lethal support to regional partners including 
Lebanese Hezbollah and Palestinian militant groups, and to develop 
options to threaten and attack Israel. Iran and its partners have made 
significant gains in asymmetric capabilities, including advanced 
ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and armed unmanned aerial systems. 
Tehran remains committed to modernizing its military and continues to 
improve the range, lethality, and accuracy of its ballistic missile 
systems. However, Tehran's malign influence also presents opportunities 
as regional actors find common ground with Israel in the face of a 
common adversary. Recent bilateral agreements with the United Arab 
Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan represent notable progress in 
normalizing relations and improving the regional security environment.
    In compliance with the 2020 Unified Command Plan, we continue close 
coordination within the Department of Defense to ensure an orderly and 
deliberate transfer of the operations, activities, and investments 
focused on Israel to USCENTCOM. Ongoing initiatives include a robust 
series of exercises, senior leader engagements with the Israeli Defense 
Forces (IDF), coordination with the IDF to maintain Israel's 
qualitative military edge over any military threats to Israel, and 
naval support to defend Israel against growing Iranian ballistic 
missile threats. This assistance demonstrates the United States' 
unwavering commitment to Israel, enhances regional stability in the 
Levant, and deters the Iranian ballistic missile threat. Ultimately, 
our focus on a seamless transition will support United States interests 
and assist in the defense of Israel.
     USEUCOM OPERATIONS, ACTIVITIES, INVESTMENTS, AND OPPORTUNITIES
                        strategy implementation
    Along with Allies and Partners, USEUCOM confronts challenges by 
competing to secure long-term sustainable advantage, deterring 
potential aggressors, and preparing to respond decisively. As the 
coordinating authority for the Russia Problem Set, USEUCOM advises the 
Secretary of Defense on force structure, resources, and synchronization 
of Department of Defense activities to deter Russia and counter its 
global malign activities. We work tirelessly with Allies, Partners, and 
the U.S. interagency to address the evolving challenges posed by our 
adversaries. Despite the COVID-19 global pandemic, we display vigilance 
in this complex security environment, and--should deterrence fail--
should deterrence fail--remain ready to respond with lethal and 
resilient force in all domains.
    Congress provides critical support to the USEUCOM AOR through the 
European Deterrence Initiative (EDI). EDI enhances our theater posture 
to deter adversaries and compete in a contested logistics environment, 
while assuring Allies and Partners. Increases in forward-stationed and 
rotational forces strengthen our contact, blunt, and surge layer 
capabilities, providing us the ability to compete and win in a multi-
domain crisis or conflict. EDI investments improve our response using 
more robust theater infrastructure and prepositioned stocks. Funding 
for exercises, training, and building partner capacity bolster the 
readiness and interoperability of U.S. and Alliance forces. Together, 
these advances enable our deterrence and defense efforts through rapid 
deployment and sustainment of forces. Support NATO's Deterrence and 
Defense of the Euro-Atlantic Area
    USEUCOM's primary mission is to compete, deter, and respond to 
aggression with the full weight of the NATO Alliance. NATO continues 
adapting to meet the challenges and complexities of our dynamic 
security environment. Together, we continue improving our speed, 
posture, transparency, and alignment. Through new strategic concepts, 
establishing new commands, continuing investment in critical military 
capabilities, implementing enhanced readiness, and pursuing a robust 
array of operations, missions, and activities, we demonstrate our 
combined ability to deter and defend. The cohesion of these efforts has 
not waned during our collective response to the global pandemic.
    In 2020, NATO released the Concept for the Deterrence and Defense 
of the Euro-Atlantic Area (DDA), NATO's first deterrence and defense 
concept since 1967. Nested with the 2019 NATO Military Strategy, this 
concept guides Alliance approaches towards threats from Russia and 
international terror groups. To support this effort, NATO bolstered 
deterrence efforts in the space and cyberspace domains by establishing 
a cyberspace operations center at the Supreme Headquarters Allied 
Powers Europe in Mons, Belgium and integrating its Space Center into 
Allied Air Command at Ramstein Air Base, Germany.
    Two new commands, Joint Forces Command Norfolk and the Joint 
Support and Enabling Command, enhance Alliance adaptation to the 
dynamic geopolitical environment. These headquarters focus on 
transatlantic lines of communication and coordinating support 
functions, enabling the deployment and sustainment of NATO forces 
during crisis or conflict. The EU, NATO, and USEUCOM continue to 
sustain progress improving infrastructure and transit permissions 
facilitating the rapid movement of forces and logistic support across 
the Euro-Atlantic.
    NATO nations continue to invest in critical military capabilities, 
contributing to common defense and supporting the Alliance. For the 
past six years, European NATO nations consistently increased defense 
expenditures and future projections remain positive despite the COVID-
19 pandemic. NATO is increasing interoperable combat power through 
major acquisitions to include cyber capabilities across the Alliance; 
High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) long range fires 
capability in Romania; fourth and fifth-generation aircraft in 
Bulgaria, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, and Poland; along with embarking 
the United Kingdom's aircraft carrier, HMS Queen Elizabeth.
    NATO's ability to compete and win through crisis and conflict 
continues to improve with implementation of the Readiness Action Plan 
and NATO Readiness Initiative. This effort provides an improved ready, 
responsive, and reinforced posture. Complementing the NATO Response 
Force, the Readiness Initiative provides additional ready forces able 
to respond rapidly to aggression by designating 30 battalions, 30 air 
squadrons, and 30 naval combat vessels for potential use in 30 days.
    NATO members contribute to theater anti-submarine warfare 
operations and provide critical host nation support to forward-
stationed U.S. Forces across the region. Allies and Partners contribute 
forces to ongoing NATO and United States-led coalition missions 
advancing our common interests in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Iraq, and Syria. 
Furthermore, Allies and Partners underwrite infrastructure investments 
and defray costs of U.S. military construction through the NATO 
Security Investment Program. Additionally, we expect improvements by 
individual European nations and the EU to enhance military mobility, 
increasing their responsiveness and combat capability. The EU, in 
consultation with NATO, projects to invest 1.69 billion euros over the 
next 7 years for civilian and military dual-use transportation 
infrastructure improvements across the continent.
    Our Allies responded in solidarity to alleviate suffering during 
the COVID-19 pandemic, providing airlift, field hospitals, medical 
expertise, ventilators, and other critical supplies. The Alliance 
established a NATO Pandemic Response Trust Fund to stockpile medical 
equipment and supplies necessary during the second COVID-19 wave in 
Europe. Multiple Allies received critical ventilators and medical 
supplies from this initiative in late 2020.
    USEUCOM plans to demonstrate joint capabilities during the upcoming 
United States-led exercises DEFENDER-Europe and ASTRAL KNIGHT. These 
multi-domain exercises directly complement NATO-led exercises such as 
STEADFAST JUPITER that maintain maritime air defense, antisubmarine 
warfare, and maritime interdiction capabilities. Ongoing enhancements 
to multinational information sharing systems enable USEUCOM execution 
with NATO and non-NATO partners. Ultimately, military exercises with 
our Allies remain an integral part of demonstrating Alliance readiness, 
interoperability, and capability.
    The participation of USEUCOM forces in NATO operations and 
activities demonstrates U.S. commitment to the Alliance. Our soldiers 
serve in Poland as part of NATO's enhanced Forward Presence mission in 
one of four battlegroups deterring Russian aggression in Poland and the 
Baltics. United States Air Forces in Europe support NATO Enhanced Air 
Policing missions, safeguarding the sovereignty of Allied airspace 
against Russian incursions. We plan to support Standing NATO Maritime 
Group Two in 2022 with U.S. naval capability to counter maritime 
challenges in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, and the Baltic Sea. 
Operation ATLANTIC SENTRY, conducted by United States Aegis destroyers 
based in Rota, Spain, and the Aegis Ashore system in Romania provides 
the foundation of NATO's ballistic missile defense capability.
    We leverage Dynamic Force Employment (DFE) to demonstrate 
operational unpredictability to adversaries, improve deterrence, and 
support our Allies. Recent DFE operations include posturing USS 
Roosevelt to the High North, Bomber Task Force missions throughout the 
AOR, a combined arms battalion deployment for DEFENDER Europe 20, and 
an F-35 deployment to exercise with Allies. Additionally, USS 
Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group presence in European waters this spring 
is a tremendous message to Allies and Partners about our commitment to 
deter and a critically important interoperability and training 
opportunity. Each force presence and operation demonstrates our ability 
to generate significant combat power across the AOR, while improving 
posture and warfighting readiness. This operational flexibility 
enhances cross-combatant command coordination and resource sharing, 
allowing for seamless transition and handover across Unified Command 
Plan boundaries to quickly deploy forces for emerging requirements.
    Rotational Army, Marine, and Special Operations Forces (SOF) 
maintain a presence in strategic locations across the theater. These 
forces work alongside Allies and Partners to deter aggression, counter 
malign activities, build host nation defense capability, and enhance 
interoperability. For example, in Eastern Europe a rotational armored 
brigade combat team and combat aviation brigade participate in 
Operation ATLANTIC RESOLVE to hone Alliance warfighting skills. 
Additionally, rotational Marine Forces in Norway reinforce NATO's 
Northern periphery while training in Arctic conditions with our 
Norwegian allies. Rotational forces are critical to our ability to 
deter Russia and assure Allies.
            counter russian activities and malign influence
    Every day, USEUCOM and NATO compete to deter the increasingly 
capable military underwriting Russia's power and counter the malign 
behavior that guides efforts to enhance perceptions the Kremlin is a 
responsible actor. Aside from USEUCOM's own capabilities, weleverage 
our Allies and Partners and the unique attributes our U.S. interagency 
team brings to deterrence and defense.
    As long as nuclear weapons exist, NATO must remain a nuclear 
Alliance. NATO's nuclear capability preserves peace, prevents coercion, 
deters aggression, and instills confidence in the transatlantic bond. 
The Alliance's strategic forces guarantee security and backstop United 
States operations in Europe. NATO continues to adapt its nuclear 
posture to ensure these capabilities remain credible, resilient, and 
adaptable. USEUCOM fully supports modernization and recapitalization of 
our nuclear forces. Sustained Congressional funding for these programs 
demonstrates commitment to our operations and solidarity with NATO.
    In the ground domain, we expect to establish a U.S. division-sized 
capability through the combination of forward-stationed forces, 
rotational forces, and Army Prepositioned Stocks (APS). APS equipment 
facilitates increased agility and lethality by enabling rapid 
integration of rotational combat units into operations. During Exercise 
DEFENDER-Europe 20, United States Army Europe and NATO Allies 
successfully exercised at the battalion and brigade levels, and we plan 
to assemble a divisional formation on NATO's Eastern flank in Exercise 
DEFENDER-Europe 24, the first since the end of the Cold War.
    In the maritime domain, Carrier Strike Group and amphibious 
presence are key elements of a lethal and agile theater posture. U.S. 
Sixth Fleet provides maritime command and control capability across the 
USEUCOM AOR, while U.S. Second Fleet complements and contributes to 
reinforcing NATO's Western, Northern, and Southern flanks. Last fall, 
the guided missile destroyer USS Roosevelt completed a 50-day patrol in 
the High North where it joined five other nations in NATO's Allied 
Maritime Command-led anti-submarine warfare exercise DYNAMIC MONGOOSE 
20. Additionally, United States and U.K. warships conducted exercises 
in the Barents Sea, the first of its kind since the mid-1980s. While 
Russia attempts to impose costs with increased out of area deployments 
not witnessed since the Cold War, the reality is our crews are gaining 
invaluable real-world operational experience, demonstrating operational 
flexibility, and developingtactical undersea warfare advances for the 
next generation of sailors. The $539 million EDI investments in wide 
area search systems, new sonobouy capabilities, and improved 
communications systems are enhancing our competitive advantage. This 
enables the U.S. and Allies to meet Strategic Competition objectives in 
the maritime environment and improve our overall maritime domain 
awareness.
    In the air domain, we are improving our mix of fighter aircraft to 
enhance Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD), support Allies' 
efforts to enhance their air defense systems, and increase long range 
strike capability for deterrence. For example, Exercise ASTRAL KNIGHT 
20 integrated United States air and missile defense capabilities with 
the Polish Air Force. In Bomber Task Force missions, U.S. bombers 
launched from bases in the United States and Europe, fly vast distances 
across the AOR while integrating with NATO and partner nation forces. 
We seek to enhance current posture, complicate adversary decision-
making and impose costs while assuring our NATO Allies via Agile Combat 
Employment. Agile operations supported by Combined Joint All Domain 
Command and Control, and domain awareness capabilities with improved 
communications infrastructure, demonstrate a credible combat deterrence 
force network from potential airfields across the continent. This 
expansion of European contingency air operation and deployable air base 
sets enhances the survivability of our forces.
    We remain laser focused in space, a domain whose importance to 
USEUCOM, NATO, and the globe cannot be overstated. Leveraging U.S. 
Space Command capabilities, we ensure our ability to plan and execute 
multi-domain operations. Additionally, we work with the U.S. Space 
Force, allies, and partners to further integrate space capabilities 
into joint and combined operations and activities.
    In the cyber domain, USEUCOM's Joint Cyber Center coordinates with 
Joint Forces Headquarters Cyber and United States Cyber Command to 
counter Russian malign cyber activities and enhance our Allied and 
Partner capabilities. Recognizing the worldwide cyber capabilities of 
China, Iran, and North Korea, we work with other combatant commands and 
interagency partners to enhance global cyber defenses and our ability 
to impose costs on malicious adversary behavior. In the information 
environment, the Russian Influence Group (RIG) provides a key platform 
for competing with Russia. We co-chair this effort with United States 
Department of State's Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs. 
Congressional funding for these unique cybersecurity and hybrid warfare 
programs (i.e. electronic warfare, special operations, and information 
domain operations), particularly through the State
Department's Countering Russian Influence Fund--Foreign Military 
Financing (CRIF-FMF), enables the RIG to challenge adversary narratives 
and disinformation. Congressional funding for these unique information 
operations enables USEUCOM to challenge adversary narratives and 
disinformation.
    Our Special Operations forces work with European Allies and 
Partners to build capacity, counter malign activity, and improve 
resilience. These unique capabilities enable USEUCOM to identify, 
attribute, and counter Russian malign influence. Furthermore, our 
Special Operations personnel provide invaluable contributions in 
sensing the operational environment, enhancing our ability to deter 
through enhanced indications and warnings.
    Along Russia's border, key United States partners see a brighter 
future to the West and resist Moscow's efforts to hold them in the 
Russian sphere of influence. Ukraine seeks a closer partnership with 
the United States despite an ongoing Kremlin-sponsored malign influence 
campaign and violence by Russian supported forces in the Donbas region. 
The United States supports the Ukrainian Armed Forces through 
mentorship and advice from the Joint Multinational Training Group-
Ukraine and with military and civilian advisors embedded across 
Ukraine's defense sector. With Ukraine a recognized operational partner 
to NATO, Allies and Partners also assist Ukraine's defense efforts, 
including the U.K.'s Operation Orbital and Canada's Operation Unifier. 
The United States, U.K., Canada, Denmark, Lithuania, Poland, and Sweden 
comprise the Multinational Joint Commission, which coordinates Allied 
and Partner FMF and USAI security cooperation funding. This funding, 
along with the Joint Military Training Group-Ukraine effort, help build 
Ukrainian military capability, competence, and interoperability. 
Continued USAI and FMF funding enables Ukraine to defend its 
sovereignty against well-armed Russian-backed forces. Department of 
State and Department of Defense continue working closely on resource 
coordination.
    As part of a whole-of-government approach, our Joint Interagency 
Counter Trafficking Center supports interagency efforts to combat 
Russian malign activities, primarily by assisting federal law 
enforcement activities. This initiative provides USEUCOM with 
additional areas for competition. Through these partnerships, USEUCOM 
leverages a range of interagency driven effects including criminal 
investigations and convictions, seizures, sanctions, and designations.
    Our approach in competition considers escalation management and 
control to maximize deterrence and defense. In conjunction with this 
emphasis, we make extensive use of authorized military-to-military 
channels with Russia to safely deconflict activities, when necessary, 
and maintain strategic stability.
             advance and strengthen strategic relationships
    Our strong bilateral and multilateral ties with European Allies and 
Partners enable advancement of our shared interests. Our military-to-
military relationships across the Euro-Atlantic area remain strong, 
signaling the resilience of our collective defense.
    Turkey remains a key United States and NATO Ally. We recognize 
Turkey's leadership role as a strategic NATO ally. Turkey hosts United 
States servicemembers conducting a wide array of NATO, bilateral, and 
unilateral missions including radar and tanker support to ongoing 
operations. Additionally, Turkey contributes forces to NATO missions in 
Afghanistan, Kosovo, and Standing NATO Maritime Group 2 in the 
Mediterranean Sea. In 2020, Turkey supported a United States Bomber 
Task Force with tanker and fighter assets.
    In the South Caucasus, Georgia remains a steadfast partner and 
contributor to global security. Georgia's commitment of approximately 
860 soldiers to the Resolute Support Mission, the largest non-NATO 
contributor to NATO's Afghanistan mission, indicates the enduring 
strength of our strategic partnership. We assist Georgian forces in 
preparing for this mission through the Georgia Deployment Program. 
Georgia hosted NOBLE PARTNER 20--a Georgian Defense Force and United 
States Army Europe exercise--to entrance Georgian, regional partner, 
and United States force readiness and interoperability in a realistic, 
multinational training environment. We support Georgia's efforts to 
generate and sustain capable defense forces through the Georgia Defense 
Readiness Program, which enables Georgia to defend its sovereignty and 
territorial integrity.
    In the Arctic, changing environmental conditions present new 
opportunities for exploration, trade, and interaction. USEUCOM supports 
whole-of-government efforts to preserve the region, address shared 
challenges with other Arctic nations, and secure United States 
interests. We leverage close relations with European Arctic nations and 
our coordination with USNORTHCOM to build awareness while strengthening 
the call for open and non-invasive impacts in the region. These 
bilateral and multilateral strategic relationships enhance Alliance 
efforts to deter Russian aggression and advance shared interests.
    We strengthen our strategic relationships through security 
cooperation initiatives. U.S. National Guard forces maintain vibrant 
relationships and unique access with Allies and Partners through the 
State Partnership Program (SPP). With more than 500 engagements through 
22 active programs annually, the SPP cultivates regional expertise and 
strengthens personal relationships to improve readiness and alignment 
across the AOR. Programs such as the Black Sea Maritime Initiative and 
enhancing Baltic IAMD represent potent, regionally-focused components, 
of a resilient theater posture.
                 enable united states global operations
    Europe and the United States remain the foundation for upholding a 
free and open international order. Our unique geographic location 
enables global operations, including United States interagency and 
multinational operations, through synchronization and agreements for 
access, basing, and overflight permissions within Europe. We work 
within the whole-of-government approach to maintain these permissions 
under bilateral agreements and to resist Russian and Chinese strategic 
investments. Absent these agreements, the United States could not meet 
treaty obligations or effectively protect vital national interests. The 
shared values, trust, civilian leadership of the military, and 
longstanding relationships we have in Europe enable the United States 
to generate coalitions for worldwide operations in support of shared 
national interests.
    Last year, Allies and Partners proved essential in our efforts to 
deter Iranian aggression. European support enabled the rapid posture 
shift of United States forces in response to potential contingencies in 
the Levant. Key partners provided indispensable access, basing, and 
overflight permissions enhancing our protection of American citizens 
and diplomats. This highlights how allies and partners enable U.S. 
global operations that preserve and defend our national interests.
                               conclusion
    Maintaining a capable United States presence in Europe strengthens 
our national security by encouraging peace, unity, and cohesion between 
Europe's individual nations. Competitors, notably Russia and China, 
present formidable, enduring challenges to preserving a Europe that is 
free and peaceful. United States servicemembers in Europe continue to 
generate global peace alongside our Allies and Partners in the face of 
these obstacles. Our strategy addresses the dynamic security 
environment by ensuring we effectively compete for long-term 
sustainable advantage, deter attacks from potential aggressors, and 
prepare our Allies and Partners to respond decisively.
    We appreciate Congressional interest in these challenges and your 
continued pledge to meet them through engagement, funding, and 
authorities; particularly your efforts to support the European 
Deterrence Initiative and International Security Cooperation Programs. 
These authorities enhance U.S. and alliance readiness and posture to 
respond in crisis or conflict. We sit in a strategically significant 
part of the world and the dedicated men and women of the command 
continually remember the trust our Nation places in us. Together with 
the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, coast guardsmen, guardians, and 
civilians of USEUCOM, your support demonstrates our Nation's continued 
commitment to defend the Homeland forward and preserve peace for the 
one billion people living in the Euro-Atlantic region.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Wolters.
    Now, let me recognize General Lyons.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL STEPHEN R. LYONS, USA, COMMANDER, UNITED 
                 STATES TRANSPORTATION COMMAND

    General Lyons. Chairman, can you hear me okay?
    Chairman Reed. Great. Yes, sir.
    General Lyons. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, it is my distinct 
pleasure, once again, to represent the members of the United 
States Transportation Command that are operating around the 
globe every day, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
    I have the privilege today to be joined by our new senior 
enlisted leader, Fleet Master Sergeant Myrick, and it is great 
to have him onboard.
    Let me just say again that our enduring purpose at TRANSCOM 
is to project and sustain military forces globally at our time 
and place of choosing. Providing our national leadership with 
the strategic comparative advantage and a wide range of options 
to enable the advancement of U.S. national interests, assure 
our allies and partners, and if necessary, respond with a 
decisive force to win.
    Given the unprecedented challenges amid the COVID-19 global 
pandemic, I could not be more proud of the men and women of 
TRANSCOM, who have continued their impressive support to the 
joint force and support to whole-of-government efforts to help 
American citizens at home.
    I would particularly like to highlight our air component's 
rapid fielding capability to move highly infectious patients, 
which was nation prior to the pandemic.
    I appreciate the Committee's continued support on important 
global mobility issues, including sealift recapitalization, 
aerial refueling, defense personal property, as well as your 
acknowledgment of the future challenges and logistics 
operations under all domain persistent attack.
    Today, I am absolutely honored to join General Tod Wolters 
and pleased to play a supporting role in his wide-ranging 
European defense initiatives. Thank you for your leadership and 
support for our impressive TRANSCOM teammates, and I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Lyons follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General Stephen R. Lyons
                         strategic environment
    The Interim National Security Strategic Guidance acknowledges an 
increasingly complex global security environment, characterized by 
overt challenges to the free and open international order and the 
reemergence of long term strategic competition between nations. These 
changes require a clear eyed appraisal of future threats, the changing 
character of warfare, and how the Department of Defense (DOD) will 
retain the ability to project forces globally to advance security 
interests and respond decisively to win if necessary.
                       delivering for our nation
    TRANSCOM's enduring purpose is to project and sustain military 
forces anywhere on the globe at the time and place of our Nation's 
choosing. Our ability to rapidly move forces transoceanic distances is 
a strategic comparative advantage, providing a wide range of options in 
support of the National Defense Strategy (NDS) while creating multiple 
dilemmas for our adversaries. As 1 of 11 Combatant Commands, TRANSCOM 
is responsible for operating the Defense Transportation System and 
integrating the Joint Deployment and Distribution Enterprise (JDDE). 
Our Unified Command Plan tasks are executed through three assigned 
component commands (U.S. Army's Military Surface Deployment and 
Distribution Command, U.S. Navy's Military Sealift Command, and U.S. 
Air Force's Air Mobility Command) and one major subordinate command 
(Joint Enabling Capabilities Command). Our key mobility mission areas 
include airlift, air refueling, aeromedical evacuation, sealift, and 
domestic rail and motor freight, all of which are enabled by a global 
posture that provides the U.S. with positional, temporal, and 
psychological advantage to respond across the operational spectrum.
    The DOD's ability to project military forces is inextricably linked 
to commercial industry, which provides critical transportation capacity 
as well as global networks to meet day-to-day and wartime requirements. 
TRANSCOM manages several emergency preparedness programs that call on 
industry to specifically support wartime requirements. They include the 
Civil Reserve Air Fleet (CRAF), Voluntary Intermodal Sealift Agreement 
(VISA), Strategic Seaport Program, Strategic Corridor Rail Network and 
the Strategic Highway Network. On behalf of the Department, TRANSCOM 
spends approximately 7 billion dollars with industry partners each year 
in transportation services to execute DOD mission requirements.
                             year in review
    The COVID-19 pandemic posed significant challenges to TRANSCOM's 
continual efforts to project and sustain the joint force. At the 
beginning of last year, TRANSCOM rapidly deployed a Brigade Combat Team 
of the 82d Airborne Division to United States Central Command, 
delivering 800 soldiers within 18 hours of notification to deter 
Iranian aggression. In total, the Brigade of 3,000 soldiers closed in 
under five days. This no-notice deployment underscored the impressive 
capability of the Global Mobility Enterprise. In the year that ensued, 
TRANSCOM transported 33 brigade-sized units overseas in support of all 
six geographic combatant commands. TRANSCOM operated from all seven 
continents, delivering over 95 million gallons of fuel during air-to-
air refueling operations resupplying nearly 60 thousand aircraft and 
directly supporting 38 Bomber Task Force missions. On short notice, our 
Joint Enabling Capabilities Command (JECC) established a JTF command 
post in support of Special Operations Command--Africa to reposture 
forces from Somalia. Additionally, TRANSCOM transported over 790,000 
passengers, 315,000 tons of cargo and 24.2 million barrels of DOD 
petroleum products, all while complying with COVID-19 preventative 
measures, testing and restrictions.
    TRANSCOM aeromedically evacuated 6,324 patients (71 having 
sustained battle injuries), 350 of whom were COVID-positive. Given the 
emergence of the COVID-19 pandemic, we are grateful for the exceptional 
efforts of the USAF, industry, and academia to deliver a material 
solution within 90 days to safely airlift highly infectious patients. I 
am extremely proud of the resilience and ingenuity of the aeromedical 
evacuation enterprise to meet these challenges this past year.
    In support of the whole-of-government response to COVID-19, 
TRANSCOM repatriated 3,915 American citizens stranded worldwide and 
facilitated movement of over 2,000 ventilators, 4.4 million COVID test 
kits, 150 million needles and syringes, and continues to support 
vaccine distribution to DOD beneficiaries. TRANSCOM collaborated with 
the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, USAF, and United Airlines 
to perform aerosol testing onboard commercial passenger airframes to 
determine the transmission risk of COVID-19 between passengers. The 
findings revealed a 99.7 percent reduction in aerosolized pathogens 
through aircraft ventilation and HEPA filtration systems thereby 
informing decisions on cabin occupancy, seating assignments, and 
contact-tracing procedures for the Patriot Express contracted rotator 
flights.
    Throughout the pandemic, TRANSCOM frequently consulted with 
industry partners to assess their viability to support National Defense 
requirements. Cargo partners within the surface, sealift, and airlift 
industries appear to be on the path to recovery. However, the airline 
passenger industry will likely take many years to recover given 60 
percent reduction in volume, resulting in over $30 billion in lost 
revenue, as well as the divestment or parking of over 20 percent of 
aircraft inventories.
                     transcom warfighting framework
    The success of DOD's power projection capability is contingent on 
three critical elements of TRANSCOM's organizational warfighting 
framework: Global Mobility Posture; Global Transport Capacity; and 
Global Command, Control, and Integration.
Global Mobility Posture
    Global Mobility Posture is the foundation of power projection, 
enabled by a robust network of allies and partners, which includes 
access to global networks maintained by industry to support our 
Nation's ability to mobilize and deploy. Diplomatic alignment with our 
allies and partners enables access, basing, and overflight for mobility 
forces, critically important to the rapid deployment of personnel and 
equipment across the globe. Our robust and resilient network also 
provides the U.S. positional advantage to rapidly advance our national 
security interests, deter adversaries, and when necessary, win 
decisively.
    On the domestic front, TRANSCOM works closely with the U.S. 
Department of Transportation on numerous domestic transportation 
programs to include the administration of three National Defense 
Programs: Highways, Railroads, and Ports for National Defense. In order 
to ensure national security needs are recognized in civil highway 
policies and programs, TRANSCOM is working with the Federal Highway 
Administration to encourage investment to enhance infrastructure 
critical to national security.
Global Transport Capacity
    Our Global Transport Capacity includes conveyances and platforms to 
move troops, supplies, fuel, and equipment through global 
transportation networks. These include rail, motor transport, sealift, 
air refueling, and airlift. More than 60 percent of TRANSCOM's organic 
transport capacity resides in the Reserve Components, underscoring our 
reliance on the Total Force.
    Mobility force sizing and shaping are informed by Mobility 
Capability Requirements Studies (MCRS). TRANSCOM is conducting the 
Fiscal Year 2020 NDAA-directed MCRS-20 to assess airlift force 
sufficiency, as well as air refueling and sealift capacities to meet 
NDS missions. In addition, we are conducting a concurrent study to 
determine requirements for U.S. flagged fuel tanker vessel capacity and 
to assess the necessity of assured access provided by the Fiscal Year 
2021 NDAA-authorized Tanker Security Fleet. We will submit reports on 
these studies by June 2021.
Transport Capacity Modernization Priorities
  Sealift
    We are pleased with the progress over the past year working with 
OSD, USN, and the Maritime Administration (MARAD) on codifying a viable 
strategy to recapitalize the Department's sealift fleet. 33 of 50 USN 
Roll-On/Roll-Off sealift ships are forecasted to retire in the next 10 
years. DOD, USN, and TRANSCOM endorse a strategy to acquire used 
sealift vessels from the open market. The Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA, 
authorizes the procurement of the first four used ships, decoupled from 
a requirement to build new ships. We are working with MARAD on 
selecting a Vessel Acquisition Manager and plan to procure the first 
used vessel in CY 2021.
  Aerial Refueling
    TRANSCOM is aligned with the USAF on the way ahead for the air 
refueling portfolio. The fleet is critical to rapid global mobility and 
the lifeblood of the joint force's ability to deploy and employ the 
immediate and surge forces across all NDS mission areas. The current 
air refueling fleet is comprised of the aging KC-135 and KC-10 
aircraft, and the new KC-46. We support the USAF's plan to adjust its 
force structure in order to meet day-to-day and crisis requirements.
Global Command, Control, and Integration
    Global Command, Control, and Global Integration remains central to 
our ability to align scarce mobility resources consistent with the 
highest strategic priorities. Enabled by a portfolio of information 
technology systems, our ability to control mobility forces is 
contingent on secure networks and continuous modernization efforts to 
retain the competitive edge against our adversaries in the cyber 
domain.
    TRANSCOM is pursuing several initiatives in the area of cyber 
resiliency and digital modernization to mitigate the rapidly evolving 
threat in the cyber-contested environment. Mitigation initiatives 
include increasing cyber hygiene to harden our terrain and decrease 
adversary attack vectors, modernizing and optimizing our IT portfolio 
by taking advantage of technical advancements such as cloud services, 
and investing in critical data encryption to create trusted 
transactions. Additionally, we partnered with the U.S. Cyber Command to 
implement a DOD proof of principle using, ``Zero Trust'' on our network 
environment to further bolster defenses from capable adversaries. We 
also continue to collaborate with our commercial transportation 
providers, sharing information as able and facilitating the performance 
of annual cybersecurity self-assessments based on National Institute of 
Standards and Technology guidelines.
             defense personal property program (dp3) reform
    TRANSCOM, on behalf of the Department, is leading a number of 
efforts to improve the relocation experience for DOD and Coast Guard 
personnel and their families. Together with the Services, TRANSCOM 
implemented COVID-19 protection protocols to keep families safe while 
relocating; enacted common-sense rule changes to address customer 
priorities `at the curb,' and published a strategic plan to guide our 
collective action in the years ahead. TRANSCOM is currently addressing 
the issues the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) highlighted 
regarding the award of the Global Household Goods Contract (GHC), and 
will re-award the contract no earlier than September 2021. While 
TRANSCOM has charted a clear path to restructure its relationship with 
the moving industry, we are also taking initial steps to restructure 
our relationship with storage providers.
    At the close of 2020, TRANSCOM recorded a 96 percent customer 
satisfaction rate--five points above 2018's score and above the 
Department's target of 95 percent. While I am pleased with this initial 
progress, there is still much work to do and it is still early in our 
journey to reform the $2.5 billion Defense Personal Property Program. 
This initial progress is the product of incredible work from DOD 
personnel around the globe, from an active network of military family 
volunteers, and from many of our moving and storage providers. However, 
the foundation of this progress is leadership. I believe the program's 
multi-billion dollar value, consequential impact on servicemembers and 
their families, and continual interface with Congress, industry, and 
the Services warrant sustained executive leadership to ensure the 
success of the reform effort and deliver the quality and accountability 
military families deserve.
                             space mobility
    As we look to the future, TRANSCOM has established Cooperative 
Research and Development Agreements with leaders in the space industry 
to explore the delivery of cargo and personnel via space anywhere on 
the globe in less than an hour. While rocket cargo will not replace 
current mobility capacity, it has the potential to offer unique and 
disruptive capability in the areas of rapid force deployment and 
humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. We look forward to 
continued development of space mobility and logistics in the coming 
year.
                               conclusion
    TRANSCOM provides the DOD the ability to project and sustain 
military forces at a time and place of the Nation's choosing; a 
strategic comparative advantage that allows us to achieve national 
security interests. By maintaining favorable global posture, sufficient 
transportation capacity, and the ability to command and control global 
mobility operations, DOD retains the ability to project immediate and 
surge forces required to compete, deter, respond, and win in order to 
meet U.S. strategic objectives. We continue to evolve and adapt to a 
rapidly changing security environment and address cyber security 
challenges. I thank Congress for the staunch and continued support of 
the U.S. Transportation Command and the Joint Deployment and 
Distribution Enterprise as together we work to defend the Nation and 
advance American interests.
    Underwritten by our dedicated soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, 
coast guardsmen, civilians, and commercial partners performing 
TRANSCOM's mission, I am confident in our ability to deliver, and am 
proud to stand with them in commitment to our Nation's defense.
                        Together, We Deliver!

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Lyons.
    Before we begin the questioning, let me just remind my 
colleagues, due to the nature of the hybrid format we are using 
today, we will handle the order of questions by seniority, 
alternating sides until we have gone through everyone, and if 
there is anyone we have missed we will go back.
    We will use the standard 5-minute rounds. I am going to ask 
my colleagues to keep a watch on the clock.
    Finally, if you aren't engaged, please keep your 
microphones muted. Thank you very, very much.
    General Wolters, today, it was reported that Secretary 
Austin announced an additional 500 troops going into Europe, 
which seems to be a reversal of the Trump administration's 
proposals to reduce forces in Europe.
    Can you comment on this increase in forces.
    General Wolters. I can, Chairman.
    We are very excited. They are part of the previous tranche 
of forces that were nest underneath DP2, Decision Program 2, 
and its focus is to deliver a multi-domain task force in a 
joint-theater spy organization to Wiesbaden, Germany, and that 
will be approximately 500 soldiers. That will improve our 
ability, in all domains, to bring fires from the surface-to-
surface dimension to increase our ability to deter.
    Chairman Reed. From your first review of the proposed 
budget, do you feel that you will have adequate resources to 
meet all of your obligations?
    General Wolters. We do, Chairman, but as you well know, we 
are always interested in working to increase our competitive 
advantage. But we do have the adequate resources.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    General Lyons, as I indicated in my opening remarks, we 
have asked for the mobility requirement study. It is still in 
the works. When will we see that report and can you give us 
some initial reactions to date as to what your prognostication 
is about the report.
    General Lyons. Chairman, let me first say thank you for 
your continued advocating and support, as you have directed 
multiple Mobility Capabilities and Requirements Study. The 2020 
study is due to be delivered in June, mid-June.
    I can tell you, you know, as a task for the study, it was 
to assess the program force. We are looking at that in the 
context of our current demands in terms of war plans, but also 
in future concepts. As we look at that, there are some areas we 
see will require some work in some areas of elevated risk.
    I would just ask for your continued support for example, 
for sealift modernization, which this Committee has been very 
supportive in our efforts to do so, thus far.
    Without getting too far ahead of the analysis, because I 
want the analysis to drive the conclusions, that report is due 
to you soon, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, sir.
    One of the issues, and it represents the transition from 
benign areas of operations, particularly for logistics to 
contested operations, is the problem of potential attrition 
during wartime.
    Do you feel that that will be adequately addressed in the 
study?
    General Lyons. Senator, we certainly are looking at 
contested environments. There is no question that we can't 
assume that we can deploy when we want, and how we want, where 
we want, perhaps as we have been able to do in the last several 
decades.
    But as we look to attrition, per se, in terms of force-
sizing, as a departmental policy, we don't include attrition in 
the force-sizing construct, but we do understand the 
implications for contested environments on our ability to 
support a particular combatant command (COCOM) or the 
Department's priorities, and so, we will see that in elevated 
risk.
    I would just offer, though, that and often is the case, the 
solution may not be in more capacity, in mobility capacity, but 
may come in better integration of our warfighting functions, 
like protection, fires, intelligence, sustainment, et cetera.
    So, as we look to the future, we know we have to move in 
that direction, and I am very pleased to see the chairman and 
the Department, you know, identifying that as a major line of 
effort in our joint warfighting concept.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you.
    General Wolters and also General Lyons, this goes to a 
point of our effective connectivity that every part of the 
operation can talk uninterruptedly and hopefully encrypted.
    Is that something that you and General Nakasone are working 
on with others, General Wolters?
    General Wolters. We are, Chairman.
    One of our key pillars in our overall campaign to 
effectively win in competition is to continually improve our 
command and control and communications, and to do so in all 
domains. We are really pleased to report that with General 
Nakasone being the sole military commander in United States 
military cyber domain. The direction and guidance has been much 
clearer over the course of the last 24 months and we have been 
able to make improvements in Europe, with respect to our 
ability to command and control.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you.
    General Lyons, quick comments, please.
    General Lyons. Yes, sir. I would just reenforce cyber 
resiliency continues to remain a top priority for the command.
    General Nakasone, the National Security Agency (NSA), Cyber 
Command (CYBERCOM) has been extraordinarily supportive; in 
fact, we are his test bed for Zero Trust principles, and we 
have taken many other initiatives to buy down cyber risk.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, sir.
    Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Wolters, I would just like to ask, I have three 
questions that I am going to try to get around in this short 
period of time.
    In the book, and we have all been talking about this now, 
ever since 2018 when this came out, the recommendation said it 
is going to take 3 to 5 percent real annual defense spending 
growth to implement the NDS and I really believe that is true.
    Now, the current budget doesn't even keep even, keep up 
with inflation. Now, this is kind of an ``if'' question, 
General Wolters. If the defense budget shrinks and the European 
Deterrence Initiative gets cut, what would be the impact to 
your efforts in Europe, just off the top, if that happens.
    General Wolters. Senator, it would slow down our campaign 
momentum that we have been able to sustain for the last 4 years 
in improving our indications and warnings, our command and 
control, and our readiness.
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much.
    Now, General Wolters, I also mentioned, you and I talked 
about this in my office, it is unfortunate, but a lot of people 
in this administration are talking about the F-35 and some 
don't think it is worth the resources that it is detracting 
from other areas.
    I am so thankful that I have the memory of what happened 
back in, actually, it started out when I was in the House of 
Representatives, on The House Armed Services Committee, on the 
F-22. The F-22 and the F-35 are the only two vehicles out there 
in the fifth generation. So, the F-22 was the first one.
    We started out with, the goal was 700 copies were going to 
come and they started whittling down. It started, actually, 
when I was still over in the House side, and it went down to, 
from 700 to, incrementally reduced to, ultimately, it got down 
to, what was it, 187 F-22s. We knew that was a mistake at that 
time, and the reason I bring that up is that right now we have 
Russia and China pursuing their own fifth generation programs 
like the J-20 and the Su-57.
    How concerned are you about our great power competitors' 
fifth generation capabilities, and how important is the F-35 to 
deter these threats in Europe?
    General Wolters. Senator, the F-35 is very important.
    As I mentioned in my opening comments, our disposition, 
from the military perspective, is strong, yet challenged, and 
part of that challenge is the evolution of the Su-37, fifth-
generation aircraft, on behalf of the Russians, and we, in the 
United States, need F-35s in Europe, which will begin to show 
up in the fall of 2021, to ensure that we have the competitive 
advantage necessary to protect our sovereign territory.
    Senator Inhofe. All right. That is good.
    During last year's posture hearing, General Lyons, you 
testified that the Air Force's divestment of the KC-135 and the 
KC-10 would put TRANSCOM below its minimum requirements, and 
that is in light of the fact that the KC-46 didn't come out the 
way we wanted it to, and yet, it took action from the National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) from 2021 to reverse the 
number of those divestments to ensure that TRANSCOM has enough 
refueling capacity to meet the requirements.
    Now, I would have to say, and you may want to elaborate on 
this maybe for the record, but I look at this and say, what is 
wrong with our requirements process when Congress has to step 
in to ensure they have enough tanker aircraft to stay the 
mission ready.
    I mean, your observation was right, that it took us action 
to make sure that that happened in our Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA.
    Does anything come to your mind as in terms of why it is 
necessary for us to do this and why this couldn't have been 
done before our action was necessary?
    General Lyons. Well, Senator, first, I want to thank you 
for your support on the issue of aerial refuel, which is such a 
critical force element, and basically the lifeblood for the 
joint force, in terms of our weapon systems.
    Last year, you asked the question, what was the 
implications operationally to delay the Boeing KC-46 delivery?
    Based on the retirement profile, the war implications, and 
the Active Duty component to respond to day-to-day crisis, I am 
happy and pleased to report to you this year that we are in a 
much better position. We have a very good alignment between the 
Department, between Air Force, and TRANSCOM. The Air Force has 
stepped forward with interim capability with the KC-46.
    We still have a long way to go, but I am very, very 
comfortable with where we are with the Air Force. The Air Force 
has really stepped into position.
    Senator Inhofe. So, you think that that has been corrected?
    General Lyons. I do, sir. It has been.
    Senator Inhofe. All right. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Chairman?
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    Thank you to both of you, General Wolters and General 
Lyons, for your service and for being here this morning.
    General Wolters, I specially appreciated our conversation 
yesterday, and one of the things you mentioned in your opening 
remarks that we discussed briefly, is the buildup of Russian 
forces on the border of Ukraine.
    Do you have any view about what Russia is doing, are they 
preparing for potential offensive? Is this consistent with past 
Russian posturing? What are they doing?
    General Wolters. Senator, we have categorized their actions 
into four separate categories and I would enjoy the opportunity 
at a different security environment to be able to address that.
    But what I can say is, number one, there has been an inject 
of a very sizable ground domain force on behalf of the 
Russians, a notable Air Force injection, and a notable maritime 
force injection. It is of the size and scale and scope that is 
of great concern, and it mirrors the size and scope and scale 
of the infiltration of forces that occurred back in 2014.
    So, we are remaining very, very vigilant, keeping as many 
options open as possible, and obviously very concerned.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I look forward to hearing your 
comments in the classified session.
    As the administration considers the best way forward in 
Afghanistan, can you tell us what you think would be the most 
significant impact of the withdrawal of American troops by May 
1 or shortly thereafter. How would that influence both, NATO's 
role and what we might expect on the ground in Afghanistan?
    General Wolters. Senator, our number one concern at 
USEUCOM, and my number one concern with my NATO head at SACEUR 
is the force protection considerations for all of our U.S. 
servicemembers and all of our NATO servicemembers in whatever 
transaction that we engage in.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I would, again, urge NATO and 
everyone who is part of our mission, to include women at the 
negotiating table, because we know that has a positive impact 
on the stability of negotiations.
    General Lyons, last spring, this is really to follow-up on 
Senator's Inhofe's comments about the KC-46, because last 
spring, you expressed real concerns about the retirement of 
legacy refueling tankers, due to the delays with the KC-46, and 
you had a brief exchange just know about that. But it sounds 
like you may begin to assign KC-46 air crews to operational 
missions as early that has summer.
    So, what has changed and why do you feel like we should 
begin doing that as early that has summer?
    General Lyons. Ma'am, a couple of things have changed since 
we talked about this last year. The first and probably most 
important is that Boeing acknowledged and agreed that they had 
the responsibility to fix the category (CAT) 1 deficiencies on 
the jet on the weapons system.
    So, in that context, the Air Force has gone to work to 
deliver interim capability. It will be fully operational, but, 
again, certainly conduct missions. They have presented that 
capability over time, so that is important. Plus, with an 
additional plus-up of Reserve Guard augmentation in a slight 
adjustment in the retirement profile against the KC-10, I am 
comfortable that we are in a good position, based on the work 
the Air Force has done to support day-to-day and crisis 
operations today.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I think that is very good news. That 
is, obviously, welcomed news to all of the KC-46 crews, 
including those at the Pease National Guard Base, where we were 
the first recipients of the KC-46. But I want to ask you, 
because I understand there is an issue that I had not heard 
about with respect to the transportable gallery lavatory 
system; essentially, the bathrooms that make missions 
problematic.
    Is this a new problem or have we known about this and what 
is the prospect to fix it?
    General Lyons. Ma'am, on those kinds of issues, I don't 
want to get in front of the Air Force. I will defer the program 
manager.
    There is a range of category deficiencies that are being 
worked by both, the Air Force and Boeing. I don't know enough 
to comment on that particular issue.
    Senator Shaheen. Will it impact our ability to fly missions 
with the KR-46 as early as this summer as you are hoping?
    General Lyons. I am not aware of any impact on initial 
capability release, but that doesn't mean that there aren't a 
wide range of deficiencies that still need to be remedied you 
know, by Boeing, before the jet is fully operational and 
capable.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    General Wolters, in a question from Senator Shaheen about 
Russia, you mentioned they were increasing their ground, air, 
and maritime efforts. In light of that, do you continue to 
support the additional two destroyers based in Rota?
    General Wolters. I do, Senator.
    As you well know for the last 12 months, the activity of 
the four destroyers that we have had access to, have been 
pivotal in securing deterrence.
    We also see increased maritime activity in the Arctic, in 
the Barents, to the central portion of the Atlantic Ocean, and 
the need for two additional destroyers in the area of 
indications and warnings and command and control, as well as, 
the lethality that they bring is what we need to continue to 
work for to have that competitive edge to ensure that we can 
continue to deter effectively.
    Senator Wicker. Let's expand on the Arctic.
    Now, China is an issue for us there, is it not, and can you 
elaborate on that.
    General Wolters. They are, Senator. Their investments in 
ports is significant.
    Senator Wicker. Do we have the capabilities we need to 
deter Russia and China in the Arctic presently?
    General Wolters. We do, and they are adequate, but our 
growth isn't matching theirs.
    Senator Wicker. Yeah, I heard you say adequate, in response 
to Senator Inhofe's question, also, and you mentioned an answer 
to a question that the recent budget numbers will slow down 
readiness.
    Let me just emphasize that we have in front of us the 
leading expert in this area of the world and that sort of 
merely adequate response and slow-down readiness is of concern, 
I think, to members on both sides of the dais here.
    One more thing. General Wolters, with regard to the Coast 
Guard, they have a statutory mission, but, also, they are very 
vital in assisting you with our national defense requirements; 
is that correct?
    General Wolters. It is, Senator. As you know, the Coast 
Guard actually recently produced an Arctic strategy.
    I will tell you as the commander of USEUCOM, there were 
many identifications in that strategy that were very, very 
helpful for future security in the Arctic region.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much.
    Let's, then, shift, General Lyons, to military sealift and 
let you elaborate on an answer that you gave to Senator Reed. 
The GAO reported last year that, ``the U.S. flag, fleet 
shipyards and workforce have been in decline and the industry, 
as a whole, faces significant economic sustainability 
challenges.''
    Do you agree with this assessment and can you discuss how a 
diminished maritime industry impacts sealift during both, 
peacetime and conflict.
    General Lyons. Senator, thanks for the question, and more 
importantly, thanks for being a strong advocate for sealift 
modernization and the acknowledgment of how important sealift 
is to deliver decisive force.
    I think you know that 33 of 50 of our roll-on/roll-off 
ships will reach end of life over the next 10 years. Industrial 
base is absolutely of critical importance and, you know, we 
have advocated for an acquired-use strategy, largely based on 
cost. There is a significant difference in cost differential, 
but there is also work required in conversion. So, we work 
closely with the Navy. I think the Navy has got the best pulse 
on the industrial base with regard to sealift.
    Senator Wicker. How helpful in your judgment, are the 
maritime security programs, stipends, and cargo-preference laws 
in supporting the maritime industry?
    General Lyons. Senator, I think they are critically 
important. We must maintain a U.S. flag that is reliable and 
accessible to support the Defense Department needs. So, those 
are critical programs.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, gentlemen.
    Mr. Chair, I would yield back 23 seconds.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. We will 
put that on your account.
    Now, via Webex, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. For General Wolters, I want to just 
continue along the questions that Senator Wicker and Senator 
Shaheen asked about Ukraine.
    The United States began providing lethal aid to Ukraine 
based on a 2014 authorization, The Support for Sovereignty, 
Integrity, Democracy, Economic Stability of Ukraine Act of 
2014. Do you believe that this lethal aid has helped Ukraine to 
deter Russian aggression and what changes would you make to our 
current lethal and non-lethal assistance to Ukraine to help 
further a deterrence?
    General Wolters. Senator, I think those contributions have 
been very helpful. The other very notable change that has 
occurred in the environment was the establishment of the 
Multinational Joint Commission, which provided us an 
architecture to be able to take an all-domain, whole-of-
government approach to some of the challenge that has occurred 
in Ukraine. From that, we were able to establish the Joint 
Military Training Group Ukraine that has afforded the Nations 
that are signators to the Multinational Joint Commission, and 
many NATO allies and partners, to contribute military training 
teams to episodically enter Ukraine and help train some of 
their forces to better defend their sovereign soil.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    In the EUCOM domain and in many other places, we have seen 
over the last decade, an increase in the strength and 
engagement with illiberal political forces, including the rise 
of totalitarianism, authoritarians, increasing popularity of 
far-right political groups and leaders, and we have seen 
significant democratic backsliding.
    How do you see these forces affecting our efforts to 
effectively deter Russia, strengthen our allies, and protect 
the values we have shared with our European allies for decades?
    General Wolters. They are an impact, Senator, and think we 
have to take a whole-of-government, whole-of-alliance, whole-
of-nation approach, and I think inside of NATO, we have done a 
better job with that. Number one, we are responsible, given our 
support to democratic values to tell the truth and we continue 
to profess the truth in the information environment and we are 
gaining campaign momentum with nations that want to be part of 
the alliance of NATO.
    Senator Gillibrand. For example?
    General Wolters. Precisely what is going on today in 
Ukraine with President Zelensky's open comments with respect to 
his desire to look westward and assist towards NATO.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    General Lyons, I want to ask a question about COVID. In the 
early stages of the pandemic, some of the early problems were 
faced were supply chain issues, including getting personal 
protective equipment (PPE) distribution, early-stage vaccine 
distribution.
    Based off your testimony, TRANSCOM has been instrumental in 
ensuring vaccine distribution was able to ramp-up through a 
functioning supply chain. As we continue vaccine distribution, 
what are some lessons learned that we can apply to, improve our 
success to prepare for another pandemic or other world 
emergency?
    General Lyons. Ma'am, thanks for the question.
    I have to say a large portion of the credit goes to General 
Perna and the lead at Warp Speed and the Federal Government 
effort. They worked through most of those issues. We were a 
supporting effort where they needed additional support.
    I think there is a task force now, looking from a national 
security perspective, that supply chain and implications to 
national security and national defense, and I think that is a 
worthy effort just to understand the source of many of the 
critical manufacturing and supplies and where they come from 
and where that supply chain might be vulnerable.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    Another question on supply chain. TRANSCOM is the largest 
user of oil for the Federal Government and President Biden's 
interim national strategic guidance lists the climate crisis as 
one of our primary national security threats. From increased 
major weather events to migration crisis, due to climate 
change, fossil fuels should be at the front of our minds for 
strategic planning.
    What is TRANSCOM doing to mitigate these massive 
expenditures of fossil fuels?
    General Lyons. Well, ma'am, I first stated, to your point, 
I think the Department clearly understands, we all understand 
that climate is a driver of instability. Where there is 
instability, there is potential implications for the Department 
of Defense and for TRANSCOM.
    The Secretary has been clear. He is focused on climate as a 
priority and has stood up, a lead in that area. I think most of 
the efforts, to date, you know, you can appreciate the level at 
the installation, base level.
    I think in the operational energy realm, the sheer 
consumption of liquid energy is going to be a challenge for us, 
but it is something that we are going to have to take a look 
at.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand.
    Now, let me recognize Senator Fischer, via Webex.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, gentlemen, for being here today.
    General Wolters, as you know, the 55th Wing is 
headquartered in my state and the [inaudible] 135s and their 
crews provide a valuable contribution to EUCOM's mission from 
their base in Mildenhall. These planes provide a unique 
capability, but I am concerned that our overall demand for 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) is greater 
than the capability that we currently possess.
    For that reason, I believe that it is essential that we not 
only continue investing in new ISR networks, but also that we 
maintain and modernize the high-end capabilities that we 
currently have in the RC-135 fleet.
    In light of that, how does the RC-135 fit into your current 
need for ISR, and if you could tell me overall what the 
percentage of EUCOM's ISR requirements are currently being met.
    General Lyons. Senator, the RC-135 is pivotal in our 
campaign with respect to indications and warnings and what it 
does from an intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance 
standpoint to see the environment. As you pointed out, and we 
discussed yesterday, I think the concern we all have is when 
legacy systems go out and new systems come onboard, it has the 
potential to create a vacuum that the enemy can exploit. We 
have to be rock-solid in that transition to ensure that we have 
the requisite ISR to be successful.
    At USEUCOM, we have been very, very pleased over the course 
of the last several years with the improvement of the 
percentage of ISR that we have received. A lot of that is due 
to this Committee and the support through the European Defense 
Initiative (EDI).
    Right now, we are hovering at about 33 to 35 percent of our 
requirements being supported and compared to my brothers and 
sisters in other geographical COCOMs, we are in good shape.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you.
    General Lyons, in prior testimony, you said, ``we expect 
power projection will be contested in all domains.''
    Your mission is uniquely challenging to perform in 
contested spaces. Given that fact, what steps are you taking to 
make TRANSCOM more resilient to these threats?
    General Lyons. Senator, thanks for the question.
    We fully acknowledge that the way we deployed in the past 
isn't the way that we will deploy and sustain the force in the 
future, and that we must be prepared to operate under all 
domain persistent attack. In that realm, we have looked at a 
wide range, as we look at the global mobility enterprise, we 
look at our potential vulnerabilities and how to buy down that 
risk.
    One such area, of course, is cyber, but there is a full 
range of areas, and to my point earlier about the integration 
of protection and fires and intelligence with the sustainment 
warfighting function will be critical as we, you know, 
understand that the Homeland is no longer a sanctuary.
    I have been very, very pleased with joint staff work on the 
joint warfighting concept. That includes an entire line of 
effort to elevate the importance of joint contested, a joint 
concept on contested logistics.
    Senator Fischer. Do you think it is vital that we a start 
to rethink or continue to rethink some of the fundamentals that 
are out there on how we operate logistics support?
    General Lyons. Senator, I believe that is----
    Senator Fischer. Really, if you could continue on with that 
train on examining the existing platforms and methods that we 
are currently using and looking at what is needed in the 
future.
    General Lyons. Yes, ma'am.
    I think what is critical as we look to the joint 
warfighting concept, so the character of warfare, as it changes 
as we continue to evolve, will drive changes in the character 
of logistics in the way that we are able to deploy and sustain 
the force on a global scale. We have got to continuously adapt.
    As we look at that and we understand those implications, we 
may find ourselves changing the way we fight, and I think, you 
know, in an all-domain set, we will, and that will change the 
character logistics. But we must be able to, as an imperative, 
to be able to project and sustain the force over global 
distances as a strategic comparative advantage.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    General Wolters, one aspect of the previous 
administration's realignment plan announced last year was an 
increase in forces around the Black Sea. I know the broader 
plan is currently under review, but can you talk about the 
importance of the Black Sea region and the rationale for 
increasing our presence there.
    General Wolters. Yes, Senator. We produced a NATO military 
strategy that stresses comprehensive defense and shared 
response in all geographical regions, in all domains, and 
seeking assistance from a whole-of-government, whole-of-nation. 
In Europe, what we discovered is we have, over the course of 
the last 3 years, had placed appropriate interests in the 
vicinity of the Baltics and we needed to make sure that we were 
giving the same due interest in the vicinity of the Black Sea, 
because we had to shore up in all geographical areas.
    So, that has been our approach. It has been successful and 
we will continue to comprehensively defend with shared 
response.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Let me recognize Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you all for your service and thank you for being here 
today.
    Let me ask, first, on the topic of vaccines, I want to 
follow-up on a couple of the questions that have been asked, 
most recently, Senator Gillibrand. Do you know how many of the 
men and women under your command, General, have been 
vaccinated?
    General Wolters. I do. Senator. We have a Tier 1 
vaccination plan; Tier 1 constitutes those in military uniform. 
We are at about 46 percent of that force being completely 
vaccinated, those that needed two shots.
    We are forecasted, based on the arrival of future vaccines, 
that have the entire Tier 1 force, those in military in Europe, 
vaccinated by the middle of July.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    Have you encountered resistance or hesitancy?
    General Wolters. I'm sorry, Senator. I didn't catch all 
your question.
    Senator Blumenthal. Have you encountered resistance or 
hesitancy among the men and women in your command, to being 
vaccinated?
    General Wolters. We have not. We have the traditional 
deferral rate that we have seen across all of DOD, but our 
percentages are within the norms and, actually, slightly less.
    Senator Blumenthal. Let me ask both of you, as you well 
know, the Secretary of Defense ordered that there be a review 
internally of white supremacists and extremist ideology. Could 
you give us your assessment of whether there is evidence of 
that impact or influence or adherence among the men and women 
under your command.
    General Lyons. Senator, I will take that, and I appreciate 
the question, because I think this is a critically important 
issue, not just for today, but into the future.
    Anything, I think, right, that degrades or violates our 
oath to the Constitution is incompatible with good order and 
discipline and military service. I think these first steps that 
the secretary has taken, regarding the stand-down, it may 
represent a very small percentage, and I guarantee it is a very 
small percentage, but it is something that we must contend 
with.
    I think the leadership of the Department is concerted and 
focused to deal with it long term. We are taking early steps 
now, and I think we will continue to persist on this issue.
    Senator Blumenthal. How widespread do you think it is?
    You say it is a small percentage. What is it your evidence?
    General Lyons. Senator, you know, my evidence is just 38 
years in uniform and now on the force. I am not at all 
dismissive of the problem, and I acknowledge that it does 
exist, but I would not characterize it as prevalent.
    We have an incredibly talented force of volunteers, the 
best America has to offer, but even with a small percentage, it 
is worthy of our leader effort to eliminate it from the force.
    Senator Blumenthal. What steps do you think should be 
taken?
    General Lyons. Well, Senator, as I mentioned, the stand-
down, I think, is the first step, but out of that, I know the 
secretary got briefed just this past week on some of the 
insights from the services.
    I think there are other activities in terms of how we do 
selection and recruitment, how we transition military members 
out of the military so they are not susceptible to being 
recruited. I think there is a wide range of activities like 
that, that will develop over time as concerted lines of effort.
    Senator Blumenthal. Do you think recruits or enlistees 
should be taken if they are members of organizations that 
espouse views associated with white supremacy or violent 
extremism?
    General Lyons. Senator, I would say, you know, when you get 
into some of the finer policy issues, there is a lot there. 
There is a lot packed in and I will defer to the policy experts 
on that.
    I do know clearly though, as a commander in the force, it 
is not consistent, an extremist behavior activity is not 
consistent with the values or the good order and discipline of 
what we need as a warfighting organization.
    Senator Blumenthal. I agree that it may be a small 
percentage, under 10 percent, but that is a large percentage in 
terms of its potential impact on the readiness and capability 
of our military and public support for our military.
    I welcome your focus on it and your characterization of it 
as a very important issue of policy.
    So, thank you for being here today and thank you for your 
continuing work on this issue, as well as so many others. Thank 
you.
    General Lyons. Yes, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, let me begin by thanking both of you for your 
service to our country, as well as your family's sacrifices. 
You dedicate your time to our country.
    I would like to begin by just talking a little bit about 
the challenge that we see right now, or the possible 
challenges, with regard to regional conflicts that could occur, 
Let me begin by just pointing out that most recently we have 
seen some very aggressive posturing by both, China, their 
incursions within Taiwan's airspace with larger and larger air 
groups, and second of all, within the European treater and 
Russia's aggression that we have been talking about earlier in 
the Committee meeting.
    Can you describe, briefly, the impact on the ability of 
your command in your professional military judgment, to execute 
its missions, if the United States became engaged in two 
conflicts and was forced to defend friends and allies in the 
Pacific and in Europe simultaneously.
    General Wolters?
    General Wolters. I can, Senator, and it starts with the 
appropriate approach. We have been very aggressive in Europe in 
making sure that we understand the importance of allies and 
partners in the process, and the importance of a comprehensive 
approach to regions, and the importance of not getting myopic 
in one region and forgetting what is happening in another 
region.
    Today, when you ask most military members in Europe if they 
have a concern, for example, about Russia, it will take at 
least 5 seconds to where the follow-on question is, do you have 
a concern about China?
    So, in the military, and in our Nations, we have don't to 
think big and we have to take a whole-of-government, whole-of-
nation, whole-of-alliance approach to the security challenges 
that we face, and we have to be willing to look up and out of 
each one of our areas of responsibility.
    Senator Rounds. General Lyons?
    General Lyons. Sir, I think there should be no question to 
our commitment, as General Wolters mentioned, to our 
longstanding values-based international order, whether that is 
in the East or the West.
    From a TRANSCOM perspective, we assess, continuously, a 
full range of plans and contingencies that we might have to 
respond to. We look within the construct of the planning 
guidance and the plans themselves.
    I would be happy to discuss any of those kinds of questions 
in a closed hearing if you would like, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Both of you would agree that prior planning 
for the appropriate concerns or the different situations is 
critical, fair enough?
    General Lyons. Yes, sir. Absolutely.
    General Wolters. Yes, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Let's talk a little bit about what happens 
if we actually do have conflicts with either Russia or China. 
They would almost certainly attack the ports and the airfields, 
where we would load and unload troops and equipment.
    General Lyons, what are the implications of a contested 
environment on bulk fuel capacity distribution and storage, as 
well as traditional lines of communication. Are we effectively 
working contested logistics in our planning and taking into 
account the attrition into our war games yet?
    General Lyons. Senator, we have begun that journey and I 
appreciate the support of this Committee on that effort. Again, 
I am pleased with the joint staff's work, particularly as a 
concept, a joint concept for contested logistics that is under 
development to address these kinds of issues that we will then 
subsequently, you know, shape forces on, enforce capability 
work down the road.
    We know that we must be able to sustain and project a force 
under all domain persistent attack. That is fundamentally 
different than the way we have operated and integrated 
logistics in the past.
    Senator Rounds. General, the way that you answered my 
question, and I appreciate the way that you positioned your 
answer, saying that we have begun to look at it, I presume that 
would suggest there is a concern about the way that we have 
either done it in the past or that we are improving on our 
planning for that type of a contested environment.
    General Lyons. Well, Senator, I think that is accurate. I 
think, you know, as the character of warfare changes, so should 
the character of logistics and that we have to adapt to be able 
to continue to be successful.
    What made us successful previously won't necessarily make 
us successful in the future, so we have work to do.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    My time has expired. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rounds.
    Let me recognize Senator King, via Webex.
    Senator King. General Wolters, within the last hour since 
this hearing has been going on, a story broke about a leading 
spokesperson for the Russians, who is also known as an advisor 
to Putin, saying that war in Ukraine is inevitable. That it 
will start with a major cyberattack that could extend to this 
country, and that they have overwhelming conventional forces 
and that there is no way that they could be repelled from 
taking over the Donbas, if not, the entire country. I view this 
situation as extremely concerning.
    I guess my first question is, what is your reaction to the 
assertion that a Russian invasion of Eastern Ukraine would be 
unstoppable. Do the Ukrainians have the weapons, the manpower, 
the training, the wherewithal to stop such an attempt at 
annexation?
    I have got to say, I am mightily reminded of 1938 and the 
Sudetenland and the German planes of liberating German-speaking 
people, and very similar things we are hearing from Russia.
    Talk to me about the preparation and the readiness of the 
Ukrainians and our readiness to assist them.
    General Wolters. Senator, as we discussed yesterday in our 
phone conversation, we are very concerned in Ukraine and their 
partners in the region are doing all that they can to improve 
their posture with each and every second as we go forward. So, 
if, in fact, an incursion does occur there, their best position 
for success, not only within their forces, but within their 
partners within the region.
    Senator King. But, do you believe they could repel an 
invasion that started next week?
    General Wolters. I certainly do, over time, Senator.
    Senator King. Well, I think they, let me follow-up a moment 
about the political situation in Eastern Ukraine.
    There are many Russian-speaking people there. What is the 
political mood in terms of loyalty to the country of Ukraine 
versus loyalty to Russia?
    General Wolters. Senator, I would categorize it as high 
loyalty to the country of Ukraine.
    Senator King. So, the claim that Russia would be liberating 
these people from Ukrainian control would not resonate in that 
region?
    General Wolters. I agree, Senator.
    Senator King. Have we communicated to the Russians, the 
fact that this, an invasion of this type would be met with a 
response that would serve as a deterrent?
    It seems to me the only thing we have right now is 
deterrence.
    General Wolters. Senator, I know that our senior civilian 
leadership have had conversations with their colleagues in 
Ukraine and at the senior level with Russia. I am not privy to 
all of the words that were exchanged, but I know that our 
senior leaders expressed deep concern about the robust 
activities in the Donbas and Crimea.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    Let me turn for a moment. We mentioned China and Russia 
numerous times in this hearing. Do you see evidence in your 
area of responsibility (AOR) of increasing relationship 
cooperation, if you will, between Russia and China?
    Traditionally, at least in the recent past, they have been 
adversaries, or at least suspicious of one another. Do you see 
a developing cooperation, which would be inamicable to our 
interests?
    General Wolters. Senator, I see cooperation that is 
superficial at best. I think it is higher at the tactical 
level, soldier-to-soldier, and I think it is pretty close to 
phony at the strategic level.
    Senator King. Well, that is reassuring. I hope that is 
correct.
    General Lyons, you and I had an exchange last year about 
the potential gap in coverage for refueling. You have testified 
this morning that you feel that that is resolved.
    I just want to sort of nail that down, that if called upon, 
whether it is in the next 2 years or the next 5 to 7 years, 
which is, as I recall, the potential gap was identified, that 
we will have sufficient refueling resources to project power.
    General Lyons. Senator, I am comfortable and aligned with 
the Air Force's position on this. I think that we have to be 
clear that Boeing has a long way to deliver a full, 
operational, capable weapon system. But in the interim, I am 
confident with the capability that exists to meet day-to-day, 
competition, and crisis.
    Senator King. I am just about out of time, but does Boeing 
have, do we have a date for final delivery and deployment of 
the KC-46?
    General Lyons. Senator, on that, I will defer to the Air 
Force from a programmatic perspective. The latest estimate was 
in anticipation of at least a remedy for the remote visual 
system, next, which is a [inaudible] sometime in the 2023 time 
frame, at the earliest.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    General Lyons. It would take some time to field the 
capability after that.
    Senator King. Thank you, gentlemen, both for your 
testimony.
    I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Let me recognize Senator Ernst.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Gentlemen, thank you very much for being here today. We 
certainly appreciate your commitment, not only to the men and 
women within your commands, but to the furtherance of our 
objectives.
    So, I will start with you, General Wolters. Thank you very 
much. Let's talk a little bit more about our force posture in 
Europe.
    Senator King had just mentioned Russia and the conventional 
forces that they have available, but beyond just their human 
resources, they have other capabilities. They continue to 
modernize their military. They have a number of advanced 
capabilities like ballistic and cruise missiles; certainly, 
sophisticated air defenses, as we know, antisatellite weapons, 
electromagnetic, and cyberattacks. I could go on and on and on 
in this area.
    But these capabilities do pose a challenge to the United 
States, as well as our allies in that region, and, certainly 
our partners in the EUCOM AOR.
    They also continue with their operations, short of open 
conflict. So, they are operating in that gray zone area.
    So, how are we adapting our forces to those capabilities, 
to those challenges to push back on Russia and what they might 
be able to do in the future?
    General Wolters. Thank you, Senator.
    We are maximizing our focus to win in the competition phase 
and we are doing it through a very deliberate fashion to 
continue to improve our ability to see the environment with 
indications and warnings, our ability to respond with solid 
command and control, and our mission command, which 
characterizes the readiness of our forces forward being able to 
conduct all domain operations that take into account the 
desired effect, at the appropriate time and place of our 
choosing, to ensure that we can be most effective. That 
approach affords us the opportunity to counter many of the 
issues that you just mentioned.
    We are also, in accordance with the National Defense 
Strategy, working very diligently to increase our competitive 
edge in the areas of indications and warnings, command and 
control, and mission command.
    Senator Ernst. So, with that deliberative approach, you are 
working with our allied forces, as well, to make sure that we 
are nested, and each able to lean on one another, our strengths 
and for our weaknesses to provide pushback?
    General Wolters. Absolutely, Senator.
    The strategic alignment that is required is also outside of 
the military dimensions, so from a whole-of-government, whole-
of-nation approach, whole-of-ally approach, we are doing the 
same.
    Senator Ernst. Great, and one thing, of course, being a 
National Guard member and being, of course, very aware and 
supportive of our State Partnership Program, you have mentioned 
the Baltics, but I was heavily involved in the Balkans with our 
State Partnership Program with Kosovo. I would just like to 
hear about how this program has been beneficial through your 
area of responsibility and how we can maybe further strengthen 
those partnership programs.
    General Wolters. Senator, we are very proud of the State 
Partnership Program, essentially yours in Kosovo, and as you 
well know, the 632 members of the United States that we rotate 
into K-4, many come from your state.
    It is a success area in NATO. The NATO secretary general is 
very, very fond to ensure that we keep a laser focus on the 
Balkans. But the biggest challenge that we face, and one that 
we have achieved a success with, is to make sure that the lanes 
in the road are perfectly understood between K-4 and the 
evolving Kosovo security force. The exist on our Kosovo force 
has been instrumental in ensuring that we each understand our 
lanes.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, very good.
    Just very briefly, and thank you, sir, General Lyons, I am 
going to push on the KC-46s, as well. I was able to go out on a 
flight yesterday in a KC-46 with a number of others in a 
delegation, and it was a great opportunity to really see this 
aircraft in motion and work.
    We refueled some F-15s. We have got some great boom 
operators that are training a lot of really wonderful airmen 
out there.
    This is very important to the Iowa National Guard, as well. 
We still have the KC-135s. We are anxious to move into the KC-
46, as soon as Boeing does a little more work.
    How important are your planning moves involving the 
National Guard, are you considering the rotation for the 
Reserves, the National Guards, their deployments, and so forth, 
as we move those 46s into those areas?
    General Lyons. Ma'am, first of all, thanks for taking time 
out on Andrews yesterday on the ramp there; really, it just 
acknowledges what an important capability aerial refueling is.
    I would just say it is largely misunderstood or 
underappreciated how much the Guard, and the Reserve, but 
especially the Air Guard, contributes every single day to the 
output of the aerial refueling force element, whether that be 
overseas or here in the Continental United States on short 
script alert, day-in and day-out.
    I think my own opinion is that the Air Force does this best 
in terms of total force integration. It is completely 
integrated today. It is absolutely seamless to me. When I see 
units out there in the field, I can't tell the difference which 
component they belong to.
    Senator Ernst. Fantastic.
    Gentlemen, again, I appreciate it very much.
    Mr. Chair, I yield back. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Let me recognize, via Webex, Senator Manchin.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Chairman.
    I want to thank both of you for your service and your 
family's commitment and service to allow you to have the 
opportunities you have to serve our country.
    General Wolters, the European Union and Russia have built a 
strategic partnership in trade, energy, climate-change, 
research, education, culture, and security. The crisis in 
Ukraine in Crimea increased sanctions from both, the United 
States and the European Union (EU) for various violations, but 
they seem to have limiting effects.
    So, my question would be, understanding that the EU is 
Russia's biggest trading partner, and Russia is the EU's 
fourth-largest, are sanctions in their current forms, a viable 
solution to shaping Russia's actions?
    General Wolters. Senator, I certainly agree that they 
contribute in shaping Russia's actions. I will also say that 
living in Europe, that there is a high degree of convergence at 
the strategic level between what the EU does and what NATO 
does, and for a military member in charge of military 
operations, I will tell you that the EU contributions in the 
area of transportation are a significant boost in our ability 
to effectively deter.
    Senator Manchin. A threat that I have been essentially 
concerned with the continuing development of the Nord Stream 
Pipelines. Not only do they create a further dependence, they 
inure on Russia gas and oil, but they also bypass transit 
countries like Ukraine and our former Soviet NATO members, 
which could hold them hostage.
    Your thoughts on that?
    General Wolters. I share your concerns, Senator. It is 
disconcerting to see what happens with the Nord Stream 2 
Pipeline and to the countries that it reaches out to, and the 
fact that several of those countries are going to potentially 
be put in the position to where their reliance on Russian fuel 
is far higher than it should be. It is of grave concern to me.
    Senator Manchin. Do you have any thoughts on how you would 
see a potential armed conflict playing out with our allies, 
whose economies are closely tied to Russia?
    General Wolters. Well, I would promote those nations to do 
what we do in the United States, which is to store fuel 
appropriately, and we do with other nations within Europe, to 
ensure that we have the resources within to be able to execute 
whatever it is we need to do to effectively deter and defend.
    Senator Manchin. You all are coordinating with them on 
that?
    General Wolters. We are, Senator.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you.
    General Lyons, the level of coordination, fleet readiness 
in response to combatant commanders in light of the COVID 
pandemic that TRANSCOM provided is nothing short of amazing. 
You all have done an unbelievable job.
    The global threat from rational and irrational states and 
actors is ongoing and the rise of humanitarian support and 
crisis mitigation is enduring.
    What are your concerns, if called today, to support an 
armed conflict, force projection, sustainment, and redeployment 
in a contested environment, while also potentially called to 
support humanitarian missions on opposite sides of the world?
    General Lyons. Senator, thanks for the question.
    We know that the security environment is changing quite 
rapidly. We know that the character of war is changing quite 
rapidly, and so should the character of logistics.
    So, our ability to project the force and sustain the force 
over global distances is a key strategic comparative advantage 
that we all understand that we must maintain. As we look at 
that ability and we look at it from the lens of a potential 
adversary and where there might be vulnerabilities, 
particularly vulnerabilities of consequence, we are, in fact, 
addressing those and buying down the risk associated with 
those.
    I am confident in our ability today to continue to project 
the force and support the force at our time and place of 
choosing. But I do acknowledge that we have work to do, too, in 
anticipation of a more sophisticated adversary.
    Senator Manchin. Let me follow-up on my final question. 
General Lyons, you spoke about the success of the DOD's power 
projection capabilities being contingent on three critical 
elements: global mobility posture, global transport capacity, 
and global command and control integration.
    So, what allied shortfalls currently exist to support these 
critical requirements if called to surge forces in support of 
the EU?
    General Lyons. Senator, I have to say I am very pleased 
with the enormous constellation of like-minded allies and 
partners that support the United States security interests 
abroad. We could not operate the global mobility enterprise 
successfully without the access, base, and overflight that they 
provide in the extension of our broad and far-reaching 
logistics networks. So, I am very pleased with our allies and 
partners and I am very grateful for their continued support.
    Senator Manchin. I know you spoke about Russia's moving on 
Ukraine and Crimea, again, and everything, and we wish all of 
our allies and under your all's leadership the most success, 
because that would be severely critical for all of us if they 
continue to do what they are doing right now.
    But, again, thank you, both, for your service.
    General Lyons. Thank you, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin.
    Now, let me recognize Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, welcome. Thanks for your service.
    I wasn't planning on raising this question, but since it 
came up from Senator Blumenthal, you know, I just got back from 
a week in Marine Corps Reserve training. It is great to serve 
with such fine men and women, but this notion of extremism in 
the military, which is thrown about as if we know numbers, 
Senator Blumenthal thought 10 percent.
    I think that is irresponsible. I have asked from the 
military, data. I want data before we besmirch the entire 
military.
    The under secretary nominee came before this hearing and 
said he was going to, ``stamp out systemic racism within the 
ranks of the military.''
    I asked him, have you ever served in the ranks?
    No.
    Sir, we need to be careful with this. I am just going to 
ask you 2 generals, who have served your whole career, do you 
think that we have this giant group of extremists in the 
military?
    I think it is one of the best group of Americans who aren't 
racist. You have knuckleheads in every organization in the 
world, including the Congress of the United States, by the way, 
but there is this narrative now that we have all these 
extremists in the military. I think it is ridiculous and we 
need to see data before we start throwing out issues like 10 
percent.
    How the hell does he know it is 10 percent?
    What do you think, gentlemen, do you think you serve in the 
military with a bunch of extremists?
    General Wolters. Senator, I concur with you. I don't see a 
giant portion of the population.
    Senator Sullivan. It really makes me mad.
    The Washington Post, U.S. Senators besmirching the whole 
damn force irresponsibly.
    General, what is your experience?
    We have bad people, of course, idiots in any organization, 
but this is getting ridiculous when a U.S. senator is saying 10 
percent. Where the hell did he get that number?
    One in ten, is that your experience, General?
    General Lyons. Senator, let me be perfectly clear. I think 
we have the finest military our world has every known. I think 
we----
    Senator Sullivan. Me, too. I believe that, and I serve with 
them. I just got done serving with them.
    General Lyons. Sir, I appreciate that.
    We have the best that America has to offer. There is no 
question in my mind, after 38 years of service. I believe that 
in my heart. I know it to be true.
    A very small, very small, and----
    Senator Sullivan. Ten percent? Do you think it is 10 
percent?
    General Lyons. Senator, I don't think it is 10 percent.
    Senator Sullivan. Not even close, is it?
    General Lyons. As a matter of fact, I don't think there has 
been any data on the topic. I can just tell you from 
experience, it is extremely small, and even though it is 
extremely small, and it might be less that 1 percent, I don't 
want to be dismissive of----
    Senator Sullivan. No, of course, not.
    General Lyons.--potential degradation in the ranks. But it 
should not characterize the joint force.
    Senator Sullivan. Do you think it is 10----
    General Lyons. We have an enormously powerful and 
professional joint force.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, General.
    Do you think it is 10 percent, General? Anything in your 
experience, in your 30, 40-plus years as a general officer in 
the military?
    General Wolters. Senator, I certainly agree that number is 
too high.
    Senator Sullivan. Yeah. So, here is what I think the 
Secretary of Defense needs to do. Enough of this. We need data. 
We need data, okay, and besmirching the whole damn Force, 
Reserve or Active Duty, whether it is a U.S. senator, the 
Washington Post, which writes a story on this once a day with 
no data, or the under secretary, who wants to be under 
secretary. I hope he is not going to be under secretary for the 
Pentagon.
    We need to start using data and not this BS. That is 
shameful, because I don't even think it is close to 10 percent.
    You know what we are going to do?
    This is going to make people not want to join the military. 
So, anyway, I was not going to even go on this topic, but when 
I hear a U.S. senator throw out 10 percent, it is ridiculous. 
Ridiculous. It is really pissing me off.
    Sorry, Mr. Chairman. I have had enough of this.
    General, can I talk about the Russian Arctic buildup and 
what we need to be doing about it. You know, we have this 
strange scenes of COCOMs.
    The actions in the Arctic, which is kind of EUCOM, but 
Pacific Command (PACOM) owns a lot of the forces. Strategic 
Command (STRATCOM) has a big responsibility in the Arctic, as 
well, with missile defense.
    What is happening there, it is even more than what has 
happened recently, and what should we be doing about it and how 
to think about it?
    General Wolters. Senator, I think the campaign momentum is 
traversing in the correct direction with your great work over 
the source of the last several years, all of the services, 
U.S., DOD, and the NATO military strategy, and the NATO concept 
for deterrence and defense of the Euro-Atlantic, specifically, 
points to the fact that we must have an Arctic strategy of, and 
nations' militaries are constructing strategies that must 
include considerations for activities in the Arctic.
    So, the focus and the architecture and approving the 
resources are growing. As you well know, through your 
initiatives, we were able to house P-8s and F-35s at Keflavik 
for the first time, and most of what they did was contribute to 
indications and warnings (I&W) in the vicinity of the Arctic. 
Getting the NATO nations, not just the ones that are about the 
Arctic, but all involved in the process, is occurring through 
the good work of the secretary general.
    So, I believe that our campaign momentum is going in the 
correct direction from strategy all the way down to 
requirements.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Sullivan.
    Let me recognize via Webex, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I appreciate this hearing, and thank you, gentlemen, for 
your lifetime of service to this nation. We really appreciate 
everything that you do every day and to all of the servicemen 
and women that are under your command.
    I would like to speak a little bit today about 
cybersecurity. Our NATO allies, of course, are essential to 
ensuring U.S. cybersecurity. We rely on our allies to Harden 
our collective defenses against frequent and sophisticated 
cyber threats.
    Cybersecurity has increasingly become an area of focus for 
NATO. They are holding the largest cyber exercise in the world 
to operating a cyberspace operations center in Belgium.
    General Wolters, what are the most significant cyber 
threats that the NATO alliance is facing and can you 
specifically describe to us the cyberthreat our European allies 
are facing from Russia.
    General Wolters. Thanks for the question, Senator. It is a 
great topic.
    I will tell you that I excited about the fact that from a 
U.S. perspective, our force presentation by selecting one 
military commander to lead military cyber, as General Nakasone, 
has allowed us to deliver clear direction and guidance to the 
Nations that assist us in the cyber arena.
    Our manning is much better for all of the organizations and 
the organizations have continued to perpetuate the Nations, the 
importance of improving the Nations' cyber hygiene in the 
network.
    As you well know, we still have a long way to go in that 
area, but nations have to make sure they understand what it 
takes and how to defend their networks, and then they can start 
to get into other areas of cyber deliverance of forces. I am 
very, very pleased to report that the manning across NATO 
nations, with respect cyber activity has improved and the focus 
on improving our cyber hygiene has improved across the European 
nations.
    Senator Rosen. That is terrific, because that was one of my 
next questions. What are you doing to prevent, mitigate, and 
recover from cyberattacks?
    But how can we help you? How should we be coordinating or 
what do you think you need to coordinate better with our allies 
in this realm?
    General Lyons. In Europe, we have had the opportunity to 
lead from the front with respect to the U.S.C. 2 in cyber. We 
have had the opportunity with the assistance of other European 
nations to educate the masses on the appropriate steps forward 
in the cyber domain, and we are getting great support from all 
nations who want to protect their networks.
    I think what we have to do is just continue the campaign 
momentum that we are currently on and continue the advocacy 
from NATO and the EU in the cyber domain.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you.
    General Lyons, I want to kind of continue on this and talk 
a little bit about cloud migration. TRANSCOM was, of course, 
the first DOD organization to move its cyber capabilities and 
command and control applications to a commercial cloud 
environment.
    So, General Lyons, can you provide us with an update on the 
migration to the services to the cloud. Are you experience the 
benefits and what are you feeling about this?
    What are your best practices? Again, what do you think you 
need going forward as you move everything to the cloud and 
begin to work there?
    General Lyons. Well, Senator, thanks for the question, and 
I appreciate the topic here because I think we all acknowledge 
that cyber is a warfighting domain and the adversary does get a 
vote, particularly, across a global mobility enterprise. We 
know we have a very large and sometimes vulnerable attack 
surface, and so we are working very diligently for that.
    One of the areas, as you mentioned, Senator, is our digital 
modernization effort, and part of that is moving to the cloud. 
We have been able to move well over 20 systems into the cloud. 
We are still working on virtualization in some of these areas, 
but we are making progress.
    I think the cloud does offer some capability and some 
security that we don't have today, and so I am pleased with the 
progress we have started, but we still have a ways to go.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that, and I actually 
would like to move on and talk a little bit about TRANSCOM 
COVID-19 operations.
    So, General Lyons, can you describe the short-term and 
long-term impacts that COVID-19 has had on TRANSCOM's 
operations as you are moving forward, and how have you 
supported DOD's mission to respond to COVID-19?
    General Lyons. Thank you, Senator. I have to say I couldn't 
be more proud of the entire TRANSCOM team at the way that they 
have been continuing to operate throughout the entire past 
year, despite COVID, while taking the appropriate mitigation 
measures.
    You know, early on, we really didn't know what we didn't 
know, but I am so proud that the folks were able to continue 
operations. We were able to continue to support the force. 
Things like Defender Europe continued to a lesser degree, in 
supporting General Wolters. We were able to support the whole-
of-government effort. We were able to conduct aerosol testing 
for commercial aircraft, for example, to determine that the 
probability for viral spread aboard a commercial airliner with 
high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filtration and high 
velocity air exchange is extraordinarily low.
    So, we have been able to work a wide range of things to 
include trading capability to move highly infectious patients. 
So, I really am incredibly grateful for the team to be able to 
face that level of adversity and just continue to drive on.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Cramer?
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Senator.
    Thank you, Generals, both for being here, for your service, 
of course.
    Right up front, let me just associate myself with the 
statements and the questions from Senator Sullivan, and I 
appreciate your direct responses.
    It is time for Members of this Committee and leaders 
throughout our Government, as well as, well we can't expect 
much from the media, but to start being accurate in 
representing that you represent the best of us, not the worst 
of us, the absolute best of us, and that is my observation with 
the vast, vast majority of the military men and women that I 
encounter. So, thank you for your service.
    I will pass on asking you, General Wolters, about ISR. I 
appreciate your previous response to that. I have some concern 
about the gap being created between the legacy and new 
programs. I want to be a part of the solution, so I appreciate 
your balanced answer.
    I will ask you about our outstanding nuclear deterrent and 
its role currently, as well as going forward. We know that our 
credible deterrent is our Triad and it is the backstop for most 
of our operational plans around the world.
    My question for you is, if the United States didn't have 
this credible, nuclear umbrella, would that change Europe's 
conventional and nuclear posture?
    General Wolters. Yes, Senator. I think that it would.
    Senator Cramer. What could be the ramifications of them not 
feeling safe under our umbrella?
    General Wolters. I think that is the precise issue. We are 
not certain to the degree that we would be compromising safety 
and security.
    Senator Cramer. If that happens, could we see, as they 
changed their posture, you know, the build-out of more allies, 
of course, I guess?
    General Wolters. That is possible, Senator.
    Senator Cramer. All right. Then, I am going to shift gears 
to a question of energy and ask you, specifically, do you 
believe that completion of Nord Stream 2 would affect the 
leverage that Russia has over our allies in Europe?
    General Wolters. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Cramer. Because one of the other peripheral issues 
that we sometimes get into around here, besides our military 
and posture and lethality and readiness is climate, and these 
aren't unimportant issues. I don't want to make the case that 
they are.
    But I want to give you just one example that concerns me a 
little bit. I have asked many of your peers about the 
monitoring, for example, of Iran's tankers and the movement of 
energy, fossil energy in unsafe parts of the world.
    But in Europe, we know of a situation a few months ago 
where ENGIE Power in France, it made a large contract of 
liquid, natural gas from the United States. The French 
Government intervened in that.
    The French Government used to be a wholly-owned, the sole 
owner of ENGIE Power, now they are just like a 49 percent 
owner, but they intervened and said, no, we want to continue 
buying natural gas from Vladimir Putin. I am not sure that a 
lot of people around here grasp the magnitude of a decision 
like that.
    Now, your issue, of course, is national security, as is our 
Committee's, but for those people who want to sort of transfer 
their climate guilt to other parts of the world, they should 
know that Vladimir Putin's natural gas, sent by pipeline, to 
places like France and other European countries and allies of 
ours, emits about 40 percent more greenhouse gases than liquid 
natural gas produced and shipped from the United States of 
America.
    So, I guess what I would just request, and you give very 
good, direct answers to questions, but we need to help our 
public better understand the ramifications of climate change, 
globally, and the ramifications of hurting America's domestic 
production of fossil fuels that are in high demand around the 
world, and not let our allies, much less adversaries, be 
dependent more on not as clean, and certainly not as secure 
energy resources as the alternatives, the American, clean, good 
energy is.
    So, with that, I thank you and yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer.
    Let me recognize, via Webex, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Lyons, I have a series of questions for you 
regarding sealift recapitalization. In your statement to the 
Committee, you point out that 33 of our 50 roll-on/roll-off 
sealift ships are scheduled for retirement in the next 10 
years.
    In last year's NDAA, Congress took steps to bolster the 
government's ability to purchase additional, used foreign 
vessels currently on the market to augment the ready reserve 
force.
    First question. How do you assess the progress of 
recapitalizing our sealift fleet?
    General Lyons. Senator, thanks for that we.
    We spent a lot of time on this issue with the Secretary of 
Defense over the last year and, in fact, the Cost Assessment 
and Program Evaluation (CAPE) issue team was formed around this 
specific issue. I think we are headed in the right direction. 
We have got good alignment on the strategy. We have good 
support here on the Hill with the authorizations, and we have 
some money in the program by the Navy.
    We are, quite frankly, about a year behind where I wanted 
to be. Where I wanted to be is, at the end of last fiscal year, 
to be able to buy the first two authorized ships. Those ships 
that were authorized by the NDAA a couple of years ago.
    So, due to some GAO protest issues with the Maritime 
Administration, that has been delayed a little bit, but they 
are on track for the end of this year to deliver those first 
two ships.
    Senator Hirono. Same question, General.
    Do the current sealift recapitalization plans sufficiently 
address the potential for attrition during a conflict with a 
near-peer competitor like China or Russia?
    General Lyons. Senator, as we work through the Mobility 
Capabilities and Requirements Study, as directed by Congress, 
one of the things that we are doing is we are considering the 
future joint concepts, as well as the contested environments 
that we know in the future that we will face. We were able to 
assess and do assess some level of elevated risk in terms of 
our ability to deliver the force on the timelines that the 
combatant commanders desire, and so we are evaluating that now.
    By policy, we don't force size based on attrition, but we 
do acknowledge the significant implications of attrition in any 
environment and the need to mitigate that largely through the 
integration of more warfighting effects.
    Senator Hirono. Therefore, is your answer that the 
assessments that you are doing currently address the attrition 
issue that I asked you?
    General Lyons. Senator, we do. We address losses. We do.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you.
    The last question for this series, Section 3511 of last 
year's NDAA provided authority to establish a tanker security 
program, subject to the results of a mobility requirements 
study.
    Do you have sufficient results from the study to determine 
whether the tanker security program needs to be implemented?
    General Lyons. Ma'am, we do. We have looked at this as, 
again, a congressionally directed study in concert with some 
other agencies.
    We do support, and I appreciate the congressional interest 
initiative here to create a tanker security program. We think 
there is value in that. We think it is important that we have 
assured access to U.S. flag tanker capacity in the event we 
have to surge the mobility enterprise and the liquid energy 
enterprise.
    Senator Hirono. Again, General Lyons, I have a question 
relating to the fact that TRANSCOM is working closely with 
industry partners like SpaceX on the viability of using space-
based vehicles to rapidly deliver time-sensitive logistics 
anywhere in the world.
    Now, this technology is a potential game changer, 
especially in the Indo-Pacific AOR where commanders are 
confronted with the [inaudible] of distance and time when 
moving people and parts from one location to another.
    General Lyons, can you provide me with a general overview 
of the progress being made in space mobility and what 
additional authorities you need from Congress to help you 
accelerate this technology.
    General Lyons. Thank you, ma'am, for highlighting this. We 
are working closely with a couple industry partners to include 
SpaceX, as well as the Air Force and the Space Force on this 
particular issue.
    If you think about the possibility, and it is a real 
possibility, to be able to take a C-17 load, let's say 18 short 
tons, and lift it off and deliver it anywhere on the face of 
the global in less than 60 minutes, that is a real possibility 
in the near term.
    Senator Hirono. Uh-huh.
    General Lyons. While we can't scale that to the entire 
requirement of the mobility enterprise, to your point, Senator, 
it offers us great flexibility and I think it creates a 
powerful dilemma for potential adversaries to move very, very 
rapidly.
    Senator Hirono. You will let us know if you need further 
support or authorization to move us on this use of this, 
development of this technology?
    General Lyons. I will, ma'am, and we do not at this time 
but thank you for that.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator.
    Let me recognize Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman Reed.
    General Lyons and General Wolters, thank you for your 
service. Thank you for your willingness to defend the integrity 
of the men and women that put on the uniform and defend the 
freedoms of this country.
    General Wolters, while my primary concern is our military's 
readiness to deal with the threat of Communist China I remain, 
of course, concerned about Russia's attempt to destabilize 
NATO, harbor allies, harm the United States through 
cyberattacks, and catch up to some advanced weaponry, like 
hypersonic weapons.
    I am also aware of the potential for Communist China and 
Russia to cooperate to try and harm us.
    How ready do you believe your command is to deal with these 
threats and do you have all that you need, and are you 
concerned, as I am, about a potential cut to the defense budget 
under President Biden?
    General Wolters. Senator, we are concerned about all of 
those threats. I would certainly agree with every one of the 
categories that you pointed out.
    As a traditional commander, I will tell you that I have a 
force that is getting faster every day and is better postured 
every day, but I am never satisfied with our speed and posture. 
So, in that light, our current resourcing is adequate to 
continue the campaign momentum to improve our indications and 
warnings, our command and control, and our readiness.
    With a reduction in those resources, from a monetary 
perspective, there would be a corresponding degradation in our 
capabilities in those areas, but as we speak, it is adequate 
and my suspicion going forward is we will have adequate 
resources to effectively win in competition, if called upon to 
do so, but we must continue to improve our competitive 
advantage in all of the areas that you point out and I have 
pointed out from an I&W and C2 perspective.
    Senator Scott. So, if you saw a cut in the defense budget, 
where would you, what could you cut? If you had to cut things, 
what would you reduce?
    General Lyons. I would have to take an incremental 
reduction in ISR that supports I&W and an incremental reduction 
in C2 that supports our ability to respond. I would make sure 
that we are adequately resourced in the mission command/
readiness area.
    Senator Scott. How long would you be able to do that before 
you have to say to yourself, you have to say that you are not 
ready?
    General Lyons. It just depends on the magnitude of 
reduction, and I don't have the specifics on what the budget 
looks like, but based off the evidence I have today, I think 
from an adequacy standpoint, we are in good shape for the near 
term, between now and the next 5 years.
    Senator Scott. Thank you.
    General Wolters, it is clear that Turkey and their 
President Erdogan is not our ally and not a helpful member of 
NATO. I met with Erdogan during the Trump Administration, along 
with some of my Republican colleagues to question him about 
Turkey's ongoing relationship with Russia.
    I also introduced legislation calling for sanctions against 
Turkey for purchasing the S-400 air and missile defense system 
for the Russian Federation and questioned their membership in 
NATO.
    It seems like only Erdogan has gotten worse. So, what are 
your thoughts about the value of our relationship, is there any 
value today in that relationship with Turkey, and where do you 
see it going?
    General Wolters. There is, Senator.
    I must tell you, they remain a vital NATO partner, and I 
will tell you from a military perspective, Turkey being the 
second-largest military in NATO, they do assist greatly in the 
area of deterrence and competition.
    One of the reasons we have such trust, mil-to-mil, is the 
fact that the 2300 United States military members that live and 
work each day on Turkish soil are appointed and given 
tremendous force protection consideration on behalf of the 
Turkish military, and that trust, from a mil-to-mil 
perspective, remains very, very high.
    But, as you said, they are no longer part of the F-35 parem 
with the United States. We understand the decisions that they 
made with respect to the S-400. We understand that sanctions 
are working. We will continue to work with our military 
counterparts, but as we move forward, mil-to-mil, they remain a 
very vital NATO military partner.
    Senator Scott. Did you ever understand why they did the S-
400. I mean, does it make any sense to you?
    General Wolters. Senator, it doesn't, unless it was for the 
purpose of an easy way out with respect to money.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you to both of you for your service to our country.
    General Wolters, I would like to begin with Nagorno-
Karabakh and what has happened there. In your opening 
statement, you alluded to the conflict only in the context of 
Russia's role in brokering a cease-fire agreement in November.
    But I would appreciate your thought as the Supreme Allied 
Commander in Europe on some of the broader implications for 
regional stability. Foremost on my mind is the fact that 
Azerbaijan is still reportedly holding an estimated 200 
Armenian prisoners of war and civilian captives.
    Now, I understand that is a diplomatic endeavor, outside of 
your area, but as someone who is in charge of watching that 
area very closely, I would like your view on this unresolved 
issue.
    General Wolters. Nagorno-Karabakh has remained a frozen 
conflict. Obviously, the activities over the course of the last 
90 days were concerning to all.
    One of the things that I will mention, Senator, that I was 
proud to report on was the active involvement of many NATO 
nations on the periphery to assist in calling for 
reconciliation and calming of tensions. When it was all said 
and done, I think most of us believed that this was curtailed 
sooner, rather than later, as a result of the interests of 
nations in the region to be part of the solution in rectifying 
the situation.
    There still is an unfortunate set of circumstances that 
remain with result to the territorial disputes, but there is 
goodness in the fact that observation posts have been created 
jointly by nations in the region and our ability to see the 
environment is greater than it was in the past.
    We still have a lot of work in front of us to make sure 
that from an observation perspective, nations agree that the 
contracts that they signed up to, so that we can achieve more 
productive campaign momentum with respect to achieving peace in 
the Nagorno-Karabakh (NK).
    Senator Peters. Thank you, and from a military perspective, 
Azerbaijan's drone fleet certainly highlighted the 
vulnerabilities of sophisticated weapons systems, tanks, radar, 
surface-to-air missiles. They did not have specific drone 
defenses.
    Has that affected how you prioritize counter-UAS [unmanned 
aircraft system] capabilities in your area of responsibility 
and what more do we need to do?
    General Wolters. I would tell you, Senator, I wasn't 
surprised with any of the actions that took place in the 
vicinity of Nagorno-Karabakh with respect to small UAS, and as 
you know, based off of many of your good efforts in the past, 
we have a dedicated DOD lead with respect to countering small 
UAS. I think the campaign momentum, with respect to 
comprehensive missile defenses improving so that we can counter 
that kind of capability against us.
    So, we are traversing in a productive direction with 
respect to countering small UASes.
    Senator Peters. Well, I had an opportunity to see some of 
that just recently down at the Yuma Proving Ground, where I 
know you are testing those defenses and opening up a process 
from the Department of Army, at large, but clearly, you are 
weighing in heavily in the need for that type of technology to 
be developed and I appreciate that.
    General Lyons, your opening statement reported a 
partnership with Cyber Command to implement Zero Trust on your 
network environment. But TRANSCOM relies heavily on commercial 
shipping, in fact, if I look at the numbers, 95 percent for 
steady state sealift operations, 90 percent for ground steady 
state and contingency operations, and 90 percent for air 
passenger.
    So, my question to you is, how do you ensure that your 
network environments for your commercial partners are secure?
    General Lyons. Yeah, Senator, it is a great question. We 
spend a lot of time both, on the Department of Defense 
information networks (DODIN) and off the DODIN, non-DODIN 
activities that were relied upon to understand the full 
spectrum and potential vulnerabilities of the mobility 
enterprise.
    We work closely with our industry partners. We have 
consistent cyber hygiene language in all of our contractual 
relationships, but more importantly, we are talking to the 
senior leadership of all of these companies. They submit self-
assessments on their own cyber scorecard. We provide insights 
on best practices. We are developing a proof of principle for a 
third-party verification. Basically, this would be a new 
venture for the Department to be able to confirm or deny cyber 
compliance.
    So, a lot of work going on in that area. The industry 
partners are coming along, but I don't want to mislead anybody 
to think that we some magic ability to protect commercial 
partners, you know, from an advanced, persistent threat.
    I would say, though, that it is bigger than cyber. So, 
resiliency is bigger than just the network's piece; it is 
always the physical redundancy that we have to ensure that we 
have many readiness providers. I am confident with our approach 
on that.
    Senator Peters. I realize you facilitate annual self-
assessments based on just guidelines.
    Where do those assessments lead and is there more work that 
we need to do?
    General Lyons. Senator, there is always more work to do. 
They come in at an executive level. We share those assessments. 
You know, for example, a concern might be multi-factor 
authentication from a cyber hygiene perspective. So, we have 
those conversations.
    I find that inside the boardrooms today, they are very 
cyber savvy and committed and want to improve their cyber 
posture. So, we are pushing on an open door.
    Senator Peters. All right. Thank you.
    General Lyons. Yes, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Peters, and 
now, via Webex, Senator Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    To each of you, I say thank you for your service. We are 
greatly appreciative of the work that you do every single day.
    General Lyons, let me stay with you there on the 
cybersecurity issue. TRANSCOM does have a high volume of 
strategic mobility missions on a daily basis. There are varying 
levels of detail, and so as we move personnel and equipment in 
and out of the different theaters, how much of that information 
is communicated across classified versus unclassified networks?
    General Lyons. Senator, I think you are aware that a great 
deal of our information is moved across unclassified networks, 
both inside the DODIN and, of course, outside the DODIN. That, 
unto itself, isn't the risk, as long as we take the proper 
procedures and we take the proper measures of defense and 
encryption. But a large volume of our information does move 
across unclassified networks.
    Senator Blackburn. Yes. I think it would be helpful if we 
had a percentage and kind of a threshold at which we need to 
classify some information for force protection purposes, but 
not others for communicating pertinent details to uncleared 
personnel. That is an area that, in my opinion, would deserve a 
little bit of a deeper dive and a bit more attention.
    General Wolters, the NATO 2030 Report identifies China as a 
full-spectrum systemic rival, and that is something that I 
agree with.
    It is not only, China is not only a security threat, a 
national security threat, they are an economic threat. The way 
they are pushing the belt and road initiative, the way they are 
pushing debt diplomacy, is something that should give us pause, 
because it all feeds in to the civil military fusion that they 
practice and live every single day.
    So, since the last time you were before us at this 
Committee and we discussed this issue, what has, and I am 
quoting now, your comment, expanding the competitive space, 
meant to EUCOM, specifically, for competition with China, and 
how does this affect the work we do, the mobility, 
interoperability with our NATO allies?
    General Wolters. It has a large effect, Senator, and I 
think it is an imperative as a result of the way that China 
conducts activities for us to take a whole-of-government, 
whole-of-nation, whole-of-military, all-domain approach, with 
the activities of China, as they bear on the European 
continent.
    We are obviously very concerned with respect to Huawei 5G. 
We are obviously very concerned with respect to the 
proliferation of their involvement with sea ports and air 
aerial ports, and we are paying very, very close attention to 
all of those areas.
    In the information environment, as a nation who supports 
democratic value as being part of an alliance that supports 
democratic values, we have told the truth about some of the 
sacrifices that nations would make if they continue to endeavor 
in 5G. We have actually seen a little bit of the turning of the 
tied with respect to China and 5G Huawei; nations electing to 
go in different directions.
    As you well know, Senator, the United Kingdom made that 
call recently and ran a position on the European continent 
where several other nations are doing the same. So, vigilance 
remains sky-high and there must be an all-domain approach and a 
whole-of-government, whole-of-nation approach to this 
challenge.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, I agree with you on that, and I 
fully believe that if we look at China as a problem set that we 
need to solve, that we are going to have to have our allies 
working with us as we look at this as a problem set.
    So, talk with me for just a couple of minutes, if you will, 
about any physical roadblocks that may be there or any 
regulatory roadblocks that would prohibit movement of our 
forces within your AOR or participation with NATO allies or 
their working with us on the China issue.
    General Wolters. No roadblocks at this time, but what we 
are anticipating is an increase in our demand to share across 
secret information lines. As you know, Senator, we are working 
very, very hard to make sure that we can open up the aperture 
from a policy perspective with our NATO allies and partners to 
be able to share certain classified information.
    We are achieving success in that area with the assistance 
of this Committee, and I would ask for your continued 
endorsement in that area to make sure that we can you 
adequately share information so that we can make headway 
against malign influence on behalf of China.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, I agree with you on that issue, 
and that goes back to the first question for General Lyons 
about the amounts of information that we are communicating over 
classified and secure versus unclassified and secure networks 
and the dangers that that may put our men and women who are 
currently deployed in various areas, that that may open them 
to.
    Again, we will continue to work with you all on these 
issues. I have got a couple of other questions that we will 
submit for the record.
    But I see Senator Duckworth is there waiting, so I will 
yield back my time and allow her to get her questions in, also.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn.
    Let me recognize, via Webex, Senator Duckworth.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
to my good friend from Tennessee.
    I have discussed a portion of our supply chain and 
logistics enterprise with the Department's civilian leadership 
like Secretary Austin; Deputy Secretary of Defense, Kath Hicks; 
and former Under Secretary of Defense, Ellen Lord.
    I have discussed it with service chiefs like the commandant 
of the Marine Corps and with combatant commanders, like Admiral 
Davidson. I have discussed advancements and we need to make it 
a logistics capabilities in order to face the unique challenges 
of the Indo-Pacific's geography and the threat of real great-
power competitors.
    I have been dogged in my insistence that we will not be 
able to build a combat credible deterrence if we do not have 
the logistics capability and capacity to realistically support 
our complex military operation, no plans.
    My takeaway from all of my conversations with these many 
senior defense leaders is that they do recognize the problem 
and they do agree with me, and yet, it still doesn't seem to me 
like we are adequately investing in Transportation Command and 
our strategic logistics capabilities.
    General Lyons, it is good to see you today. In this 
setting, as much as you can, in this unclassified setting, what 
are your biggest capability and capacity challenges, 
shortfalls, and how can Congress best resource Transportation 
Command to provide the power projection and sustainment 
necessary for our operational plans?
    General Lyons. Senator, let me just say, thank you for your 
strong, unwavering advocacy in understanding the combat 
credible deterrence assurance, and really to be able to respond 
to when, that is so critical in our logistics enterprise. So, I 
really do appreciate that.
    I know you are aware of several ongoing initiatives that we 
are getting support from the Hill on to include sealift 
recapitalization that we talked about. We have alluded to some 
work inside the Department on the joint concept for contested 
logistics.
    I think this begins a very important journey for us across 
the joint force as a Department to fully integrate the 
logistics just the same, a warfighting function amongst all 
warfighting functions that will be critical as we move forward 
and evolve to support both, the changing character of warfare 
and adjust the character of logistics to support the changing 
character of warfare. So, a lot going on there to include some 
of discussions you just heard on cyber.
    So, we are, in fact, getting good support and good 
collaboration across the combatant commands, across the 
services, and inside the Department on the things that I think 
are most important, and we will continue to push on these kinds 
of issues, whether they be mobility or liquid energy to ensure 
that we can continue to project and sustain the force well into 
the future.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    I want to also follow-up on the discussion on cyber that 
you just had with my good friend from Michigan, Senator Peters. 
I would like to take it a little bit further and ask, does 
TRANSCOM currently have systems in place that will evaluate 
compliance with, you know, the cyber requirements in terms of 
your civilian partners, and how do you enforce cybersecurity 
measures with commercial partners?
    General Lyons. Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
    For the commercial partners, which, we have many, and good 
partnerships, that is currently done through a self-assessment 
and self-reporting. We are working a proof of principle for a 
third-party to be able to validate compliance. That is a 
relatively new initiative. We have to work through the 
feasibility of that, but we are working in that regard.
    I would say, though, today, we have a very transparent and 
a good level of coordination with our industry partners.
    As I mentioned, I think we are pushing on an open door when 
it comes to cyber risk and cyber coaching. So, we are getting 
good cooperation, and at the end of the day, we ensure we don't 
have any single points of failure inside of our industry 
networks.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, General.
    By the way, I just want to congratulate you on your 
remarkable career, and I happen to think that leaving from the 
TRANSCOM is a capstone. It is my personal interests, my 
personal, or I consider it critical to our force and I just 
want to thank you for how well you have done there and how well 
you have moved our capacity, both capacity and capability 
forward, when it comes logistics for our national security, and 
I just, you know, can't thank you enough for your dedication, 
and I hope you have a wonderful early part of your retirement, 
where you said you are going to go underground and hide for a 
little while. Enjoy that, but then I am sure that we will see 
you around again sometime soon.
    Thank you so much.
    General Lyons. Thank you, ma'am.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you for your services.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth.
    Now, via Webex, let me recognize Senator Cotton.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, gentlemen, both for appearing in front of us.
    General Wolters, I want to ask you a couple more questions 
about Ukraine. An alumni of your organization, General Ben 
Hodges, recently said in a television interview on a Ukrainian 
television network, that he believes Russia's buildup in the 
Donbas area is not specifically about Donbas, but more about 
control over the Black Sea coast, and, in particular, trying to 
take control of Mariupol and maybe the Sea of Azov to stage 
Russia for further incursions onto the northern Black Sea 
coast.
    Have you seen that interview and, if so, what do you think 
about General Hodges' comments?
    General Wolters. Senator, I haven't seen the interview, but 
I, too, am concerned about the protection of sovereign activity 
in the vicinity of the Black Sea.
    Senator Cotton. This was a concern back in 2015, was it 
not, after Ukraine first made its incursion into the Donbas, 
that they were going to try to establish just a little land 
bridge to Crimea?
    General Wolters. It was, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. That would be deeply harmful, not only to 
Ukraine, but also to American interests in the Black Sea region 
and to Europe, more broadly?
    General Wolters. I concur, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you.
    I know that you were asked a question earlier about the 
Javelin missiles that we had provided to Ukraine, but to be 
very exact, those are in possession of the Ukrainian Armed 
Forces and they are entitled to use those anywhere in their 
country and in any manner that they need to defend their 
territory?
    General Wolters. That is correct, Senator, for defensive 
purposes, to defend their sovereign territory.
    Senator Cotton. The Javelin is, by definition, really, a 
defensive weapon, wouldn't you say?
    General Wolters. I would, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. I will relay one story from the summer of 
2015. I was with the former Chairman of the Committee, Senator 
McCain in Eastern Ukraine, about as close as they would let us 
get to the Donbas, and we met with some troops from there and 
then irregular militia forces that had rallied to come to 
Ukraine's defense. One had been a former tank commander. He was 
a lieutenant in the Red Army and now he was a battalion 
commander of this new unit.
    He was pleading with us at the time to convince the Obama-
Biden administration to provide Javelins, which they never did, 
and he said to us, Mr. Senators, we do not need a hundred 
Javelins to use against Russian tanks. We only need one Javelin 
to use against a Russian tank and then Russian tankers will 
think twice.
    Would you agree with that, is that a folk wisdom, from the 
battlefield, General Wolters, that one Javelin used in Eastern 
Ukraine against a Russian tank would make a lot of Russian 
tankers think twice?
    General Wolters. I would, Senator, and I think you have 
accurately characterized the spirit of the Ukrainian Armed 
Forces.
    Senator Cotton. All right. Thank you.
    Let's move on to another matter about making Russians think 
twice. In the wake of Russia's development of new intermediate-
range nuclear forces capabilities, and also our long overdue 
departure from the intermediate-range nuclear forces treaty, 
how should NATO posture our forces to adapt to Russia's missile 
threat and what, in particular, should we do to focus on 
missile defense and long-range strike capability in the 
European theater?
    General Wolters. Senator, as we talked before, we have to 
continue to improve in indications and warnings and command and 
control so that we can see deeper into the environment and 
respond quicker, and if we will continue to improve those 
areas, with respect to the integrated air and missile defense 
programs that we have in work today, we will keep the campaign 
momentum traversing in a productive direction.
    Senator Cotton. Are our NATO partners comfortable with the 
development of those kind of long-range strike capabilities 
that can hold at risk, Russian targets that previously would 
have been within the INF prohibited range of missiles?
    General Wolters. Senator, I would characterize the 
environment as the Nations are becoming more comfortable as 
they gain greater understanding of the operational environment.
    Senator Cotton. It sounds to me like that is a pretty 
strong asymmetric advantage in our favor, isn't it, unless we 
think that Russia is going to start putting intermediate-range 
missiles in Cuba or the Bahamas or Canada or Mexico, since we 
can put them up against Russia's border, and they have a much 
harder time doing it on our border?
    General Wolters. I concur, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. It seems to me like there should be a lot 
more of them [inaudible].
    Thank you, General.
    Thank you, General Lyons, as well, for your service.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Let me now recognize Senator Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
General Wolters and General Lyons.
    I want to talk a little bit about Defender Europe 2020.
    You know, we trained, so we are prepared to fight and 
prepared to win and, you know, this exercise is one to test our 
power projection. I want to hear directly from the two of you, 
what were the top lessons learned from Defender Europe 2020, 
and then how does that translate into changes in the exercise 
in, well, coming up in this year?
    General Wolters. Senator, the number one lesson learned was 
the value of Army pre-positioned stockpiles and deployable air 
base systems. We have studied this issue for a long time.
    Moving at speed with large formations across the Atlantic 
and getting to point, ultimately, to the appropriately foxhole 
with a ready force member is a challenge. Having those pre-
positioned stockpiles in place was very beneficial, more so, 
than we could have possibly imagined and Defender Europe 2020 
verified that.
    Senator Kelly. General Lyons?
    General Lyons. Senator, thanks.
    It is such a critical exercise. We got a lot out of it. I 
would say a couple of things. It demonstrated, clearly, in my 
own view that we do, as a nation, have the ability to move 
immediately, if required, and as well, as follow it with a 
decisive force.
    Now, as I looked at that operation and I looked at what 
General Wolters was trying to do and our ability to get the 
force to him, I felt very confident in our ability to support 
his efforts and deliver the decisive force, when needed.
    Senator Kelly. So, the sealift capability, was that tested?
    I know we had more Air Force and Navy resources. I assume, 
some Military Sealift Command (MSC) resources involved. Do you 
feel you have the sealift capability you need if this was not 
an exercise, but was, if we wound up in a real fight?
    General Lyons. Senator, I think you are aware, I mean, we 
have a lot of work to do on sealift. On sealift 
recapitalization, we have an aging fleet, a fleet that has some 
readiness challenges, and we have a plan to remedy that over 
the next decade.
    But in this particular exercise with multiple vessels 
underway, some commercial, some organic, some, frankly, being 
integrated in the handoff between the second fleet and the 
sixth fleet in Europe, it was a great test of our ability to 
coordinate the transatlantic crossing, and I think very 
successfully so.
    But, to your point, we have work to do on the broader 
sealift capacity, because in a surge environment, we are making 
quite literally hundreds of turns, as opposed to dozens of 
turns, as in this case.
    Senator Kelly. General Wolters, further, in Eastern Europe, 
the infrastructure was designed for Warsaw Pact, you know, 
nations, Russian tanks, vehicles, troops. That infrastructure 
was designed for things to be travelling east to west.
    Did that come up in part of the exercise in transporting 
our equipment and troops to the east through infrastructure 
that was not designed for this?
    General Wolters. It did, Senator, and with the 
contributions of the European Deterrence Initiative over the 
course of the last 3 years, we have had the opportunity to 
specifically work on road and rail from west to east, Central 
Germany to the Baltics, and down to Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, 
and we have made improvements in those areas, but it is still a 
challenge and it is something we will continue to work on, but 
we were much faster than we had been in the past.
    Senator Kelly. Finally, how, in the remaining minute, how 
would you like to see this exercise change to make sure we are 
as prepared as possible for, you know, real engagements?
    General Wolters. We are in the process of executing 
Defender Europe 2021, and one of the changes that we are making 
is a cyber red team and we want to improve our cyber defensive 
posture for the duration of the exercises involved with 
Defender Europe 2021.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Let me recognize Senator Hawley.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, thank you for being here. Thanks for your 
service.
    General Wolters, let me start with you. Secretary Austin 
has reaffirmed the position from the prior administration that 
China is our pacing threat. Given that, what is your view on 
what you could do in EUCOM to free up military resources that 
the Department can use in the pacing theater.
    General Wolters. Senator, my first response is, what we do 
to effectively compete and deter against the nearest peer 
competitor in Europe, Russia, is effective in deterring China, 
because of the connectivity between the two nations and the 
willingness of both nations to engage in malign influence 
against the United States and against NATO.
    So, those activities that allow us to continue to be 
successful in the competition phase against Russia are also 
helpful against China. Whether it is pointing out the poor path 
that a nation could take with respect to Huawei 5G or whether 
it is pointing out what China is doing, with respect to 
equities in sea ports and aerial ports investment in Europe.
    Senator Hawley. Let me ask you a little bit about NATO. 
There has been a lot of talk about NATO's role in helping 
confront China.
    Wouldn't it be helpful if European allies did more to bear 
the burden of confronting Russia so that we could focus on what 
has been identified as our pacing threat, the pacing theater?
    General Wolters. No argument that here, Senator, and I am 
pleased to report the Nations are. They are very fixated on 
Russia. There is no hesitancy on their part, and I say that as 
a result of producing the first NATO military strategy in over 
six decades. I am finalizing the concept for deterrence and 
defense of the Euro-Atlantic area, all of those codify the 
challenges that we face against a malign Russia, and the 
Nations have been very willing to produce national plans that 
take into account Russia as a malign influencer in the region.
    Senator Hawley. Let me just ask you about our NATO allies 
spending in 2014, I think it was, that NATO members agreed to 
spend 2 percent of their gross domestic product (GDP), 
respective GDPs on defense by uh 2024.
    Now, the world has changed a lot since 2014 and, then, 
particularly, again, our own assessment of what is now our 
pacing threat, from a military standpoint and given the changed 
security environment, do you think that 2 percent is still the 
right target?
    General Wolters. I do, Senator.
    I will tell you that from 2016 to 2020, the 10 nations 
today that meet the 2 percent minimum, all the Nations involved 
have allowed us the opportunity to get our hands on $130 
billion extra and that makes a big difference with our ability 
to effectively compete.
    Senator Hawley. Has EUCOM done any analysis as to that 2 
percent number, why you still that that 2 percent is still the 
right number?
    General Wolters. Sir, EUCOM has done an analysis, Office of 
the Secretary of Defense (OSD) has done analysis, and NATO has 
conducted analysis. The feedback we get is the [inaudible] 
pledge of 2 percent is still viable with respect to our ability 
to build a competitive edge against near-peer competition in 
Europe.
    Senator Hawley. Would you be willing to share that 
analysis, General, in the appropriate setting with this 
Committee?
    General Wolters. Yes, sir.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you very much.
    Let me just ask you before I move to General Lyons about 
ISR, you mentioned in your opening statement that timely 
indications and warning would be key for deterring or blunting 
any Russian attack in the Baltics.
    Of course ISR is a very scarce commodity. Our forces in the 
Pacific also need a timely indication to warnings of possible 
Chinese attacks. They are particularly with regard to Taiwan.
    So, my question is, how do we minimize the amount of 
American ISR that is needed in your AOR so we can monitor 
Russian forces effectively, but also continue to bolster our 
deterrent posture in PACOM?
    General Wolters. Continue to communicate to our allies and 
partners that the criticality of ISR and what it contributes 
and indications and warnings, and what it affords you the 
opportunity to do in the competition phase before you get to 
crisis or before you get to conflict. In NATO, we are having 
success with that.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you.
    General Lyons, in my remaining seconds here, let me ask you 
a logistics question. Admiral Davidson has recently warned that 
China might attempt a fait accompli with regard to Taiwan, much 
sooner than we might otherwise previously have anticipated.
    Just from a logistics standpoint, what do we need to do, 
what do we need to have in place in the Indo-Pacific in order 
to blunt such an offensive as quickly as possible, in your 
view?
    General Lyons. Well, Senator, you know, Admiral Davidson 
has done some great work out there. It still has to continue in 
terms of the posture, not just in the Pacific, but the global 
posture. So, it is so critical that we think of things globally 
and not just Indo-Pacific.
    Our global posture that offers us a physical, a temporal, 
and a psychological advantage to be able to come when we are 
told to come. I have a high degree of confidence that we can do 
that.
    I know that there is still work to be done as we evolve and 
look at the future character of warfare, but I think we are on 
the right path to support Admiral Davidson's initiatives.
    Senator Hawley. Very good.
    My time had expired. I will have another question or two 
for you for the record.
    General Lyons. Thank you.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you both, gentlemen, for your 
service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley.
    Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Real quick, I know we are running out of time, but I want 
to thank you for being here today and your service. Just real 
quick, Redstone Arsenal, you know, we have quite a bit of 
things at Redstone and you have done a great job for the 
American people. It looks like we have a great chance to have 
the Space Command (SPACECOM).
    General Lyons, how important is that, how important is us 
to move up in Space Command? I know we are on the infant ages 
of that, but what do you think about Space Command?
    General Lyons. Senator, I think space is clearly a 
warfighting domain and I think that the creation of SPACECOM, 
as well as Space Force was critically important to the way we 
are going to operate in the future and, you know, the character 
of warfare as we see it.
    I really can't comment on the basing issue, whether it is 
Huntsville or some other location. I will confirm, just being 
an Army officer and knowing what is at Huntsville, how critical 
that installation is to Army operations and other operations 
and such.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    General Wolters?
    General Wolters. I couldn't agree more. Space is a 
warfighting domain. It is a pretty large domain, compared to 
all the others, and it is important that we understand how to 
effectively compete and deter and defend in space.
    Senator Tuberville. What do you think about laser warfare? 
I have seen some examples of that in Huntsville and what we are 
developing.
    Do you see a future for that?
    General Wolters. I do, Senator, and I think we need to 
continue down that path. It is not cheap, but the return on 
investment due to accuracy and lethality is very powerful and 
very compelling.
    Senator Tuberville. General Lyons?
    General Lyons. Senator, I would just say, you know, 
anything that provides us an opportunity to bring lethal 
effects on an adversary to compel them to our will on aware 
national security, that just has to remain on the table.
    Senator Tuberville. Yeah. Thank you very much.
    Just a quick comment about earlier about some things that 
were said in here. I was disturbed a little bit about using the 
word white supremacists.
    You know, I am a football coach in trade and I build teams, 
and that is what you are doing, you are building a team, and we 
have people in here that has never been on a team. They don't 
understand, you recruit people and you make something out of 
them and you bring them together. You fight together. You live, 
you eat, you breathe, and they come from all economic 
backgrounds, every culture in the world.
    Some people don't understand that. They don't understand 
it, and you will eliminate them, as I did when I was coaching. 
If you had somebody that wasn't a teach member, they were gone.
    You do the same thing in the military. We need to stay out 
of that. We need to leave it to the generals, which, to me, are 
the coaches, the people that do it, that get it done, that know 
these young men and women. Because, listening to our people the 
other day that we were interviewing about a draft in the 
future, which, you know, we want to draft women. We think they 
serve a great purpose, and we are going to need it.
    You know, this is a dangerous world. A dangerous world, and 
we can't sit back and try to tear our military down from people 
that really know nothing about it, about building a team. So, I 
want to apologize for that. I mean, that was not a good 
selection of questions, I don't think, for this Committee, 
because we are here to help. We are here to give advice if you 
want advice, but not give you advice so you have to take that.
    You know, I was disappointed in Secretary Austin. You know, 
he is a Army guy, and first thing we do is we stand-down, stay 
out of it, personally.
    In terms of publicly, you know, I know being a coach, there 
are a lot of things you didn't bring up publicly. You kept it 
within, because you have got to build, because you divide if 
you start bringing it up publicly.
    So, we need a killing machine and we are going to need one, 
just looking at what is coming. So, thanks for your service and 
your building, and hopefully, we can keep people out of what 
you all do and do great, because you are the defense of the 
world, not just the defense of this country.
    Thank you very much.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Thank you, gentlemen, for your testimony.
    It is the intention now to adjourn the public hearing and 
quickly move to SVC-217 for a classified session.
    Senator Inhofe. Can I make one?
    Chairman Reed. I will yield to Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Inhofe. Well, let me just thank the coach for his 
comments. Right on.
    Chairman Reed. If there are no further comments, then the 
hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:50 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                             cybersecurity
    1. Senator Hirono. General Lyons, in your posture statement, you 
acknowledged both the advantage of partnering with civilian carriers to 
meet U.S. Transportation Command's (TRANSCOM) missions, but also the 
risks that come from partnering with companies who primarily use 
unclassified networks. What is the current status of TRANSCOM's efforts 
to harden its networks to defend against cyberattacks?
    General Lyons. TRANSCOM has implemented a layered defense-in-depth 
construct to harden our networks. We are focused on quickly mitigating 
critical vulnerabilities across our portfolio and have invested in data 
encryption capabilities to create trusted data transactions, which have 
decreased adversary attack vectors. Additionally, our robust network 
intrusion detection system, continuous network monitoring program, and 
access to third party threat intelligence from industry experts, allow 
our intrusion detection analysts to better deter, detect, and respond 
to incidents.
    In addition, TRANSCOM's continued investment in cloud services led 
to a more robust infrastructure, increased our security posture, and 
improved the resilience of our mobility systems. TRANSCOM, in 
partnership with U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM), is implementing a Zero 
Trust security model that will enhance TRANSCOM network traffic 
visibility and better position the command to secure sensitive data, 
systems, and services. TRANSCOM's efforts are informing the way forward 
for architecture standards, data analytics development, and assessment 
criteria for future Zero Trust security model implementations across 
the DOD.
    To reduce cybersecurity risks with our commercial partners, 
TRANSCOM incorporated the Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation 
Supplement Clause 252.204-7012, Safeguarding Covered Defense 
Information and Cyber Incident Reporting, language in all Readiness 
Transportation Service Provider (TSP) contracts. The contract language 
requires Readiness TSPs to implement National Institute of Standards 
and Technology (NIST) Special Publication 800-171, ``Protecting 
Controlled Unclassified Information in Nonfederal Information Systems 
and Organizations,'' to safeguard covered defense information processed 
or stored on their internal information system or network.
    The contract language also requires each of our Readiness TSPs to 
complete an annual cybersecurity self-assessment of the NIST security 
controls. 2020 marked the third year of contractually requiring our 
Readiness TSPs to submit self-assessments, and self-reporting 
compliance has continued to improve each year. Overall, we assess that 
most of our TSPs are taking cybersecurity seriously and the NIST 
standards will help them improve their security. However, TSPs will 
always be challenged to keep out advanced persistent threat actors.

    2. Senator Hirono. General Lyons, is your command coordinating with 
U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM) on this effort?
    General Lyons. Yes, TRANSCOM is aligned closely with CYBERCOM on a 
wide array of cyber security initiatives designed to harden networks 
against malicious cyber activities. We are partnering with CYBERCOM on 
a Zero Trust security model implementation. In addition, we routinely 
combine efforts on joint defensive cyber operations in response to 
emerging threats. We are also members of various CYBERCOM working 
groups, such as the Comply-to-Connect and the Operationalizing Cyber 
Security Service Providers working groups, focused on improving the 
Department's cybersecurity posture.
                             military moves
    3. Senator Hirono. General Lyons, last November, the Government 
Accountability Office (GAO) overturned DOD's multi-billion dollar 
contract award to move servicemembers' household goods around the world 
because of pervasive errors in the contracting process. Can you provide 
an update on the status of re-awarding that contract?
    General Lyons. [Deleted.]

    4. Senator Hirono. General Lyons, will the delay negatively affect 
any military servicemember and family movements during peak season this 
summer?
    General Lyons. Yes. The contracting delays translate into delays to 
TRANSCOM delivering a more professional, higher-quality moving 
experience than is possible in the current program. Whereas we 
originally intended to begin operating under the GHC in 2021, we now 
don't expect to begin operating under GHC until 2023.
    While we've made some marginal improvements to the current program 
and incorporated many GHC rules into the existing program, our current 
model limits the quality improvements we can make. Our current 
construct is a constraint to innovation, as we are tied to the 
capabilities of `the lowest common denominators' in the program. The 
current model prevents us from capitalizing on existing capabilities in 
industry such as near real-time event status updates as shipments are 
in-transit and mobile applications to provide Families modern tools to 
manage all aspects of the move process (including claims). Indeed, the 
GHC is an opportunity to raise the standard for DOD Families, attract 
additional quality capacity to the program, and incorporate modern 
capabilities (which we take for granted in every aspect of our personal 
lives) into the Personal Property Program.
    So yes--because the delays prevent us from delivering a better 
experience to DOD personnel and their families sooner, I can only 
characterize the delays as having a negative effect.

    5. Senator Hirono. General Lyons, what steps are you taking to 
ensure the contracting errors committed last year don't happen again?
    General Lyons. [Deleted.]
                      vaccinating troops in europe
    6. Senator Hirono. General Wolters, last month, shipping delays to 
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany slowed vaccination efforts 
in U.S. European Command (EUCOM) for servicemembers, DOD civilians, and 
their families. Can you give me an update on the current status of 
vaccination efforts in EUCOM?
    General Wolters. USEUCOM is vaccinating rapidly across the theater. 
Our vaccination efforts are aligned with the Department of Defense 
population prioritization schema and over 46,000 eligible (19%) have 
been fully vaccinated with almost 51,000 (21%) having received their 
first shot.

    7. Senator Hirono. General Wolters, will EUCOM be able to meet the 
April 19th date set by President Biden and offer vaccinations to 
servicemembers, DOD civilians, and adult family members who want one?
    General Wolters. USEUCOM is on pace to meet the 19 April date set 
by President Biden to offer vaccinations to all eligible adult 
beneficiaries. We are also on pace to meet the Department of Defense 
(DOD) milestone to vaccinate 70% of the total eligible DOD population, 
including beneficiaries, by 15 August.
                                 russia
    8. Senator Hirono. General Wolters, Russia has continued engaging 
in malign activities across all parts of Europe. Alarmingly, Russian 
troops are massing forces along the border of Ukraine while Ukrainian 
forces are fighting Russian-backed separatists in the country. 
Furthermore, Russia's Navy has deployed additional warships to the 
Black Sea in its escalation of aggression and is posturing to gain a 
strategic naval advantage in the Arctic. What steps are the U.S. taking 
to counter renewed Russian aggression in and around Ukraine?
    General Wolters. USEUCOM works within the whole-of-government and 
alongside our NATO Allies and Partners to develop response options as 
Russia increased its force posture and aggressive stance towards 
Ukraine. We remain vigilant and focused on activities in the region as 
well as amplify messaging for major exercises. Recent options executed 
included Bomber Task Force flights, destroyers operating in the Aegean 
Sea and Eastern Mediterranean Sea, and a fly-in of High Mobility 
Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) into Romania. We are monitoring Black 
Sea region activities and able to modify and add options as 
environmental changes necessitate.

    9. Senator Hirono. General Wolters, how are EUCOM naval assets 
responding to Russia's recent activity?
    General Wolters. USEUCOM's maritime assets routinely operate across 
the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, Aegean Sea, as well as in the Black Sea 
consistent with the Montreux Convention and international law. Four 
destroyers recently participated in a Romanian-led NATO exercise. The 
USS IWO JIMA Amphibious Readiness Group with the 24th Marine 
Expeditionary Unit embarked will operate with the HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH 
Carrier Strike Group and other maritime nations throughout the theater. 
Through our robust array of operations, missions, and activities with 
Allies and Partners, we demonstrate our combined ability to deter and 
defend. Russia's recent activities underscore the importance of 
conducting these assurance measures, increasing our alignment and 
strengthening relationships with like-minded nations.

    10. Senator Hirono. General Wolters, is anything additional 
required to ensure we can adequately respond to Russian naval 
initiatives?
    General Wolters. Dedicated Carrier Strike Group and amphibious 
presence are key elements of a lethal and agile theater posture. Two 
additional destroyers will enhance our seapower projection and 
deterrence in the Mediterranean and Black Sea, and all the way up to 
the Arctic. Persistent Indications and Warning across the Greenland, 
Iceland, U.K. Gap is critical for high-end subsurface threat detection 
and defense of the Homeland. Increasing our unmanned systems to allow 
us to better surveil critical areas with speed and clarity will 
strengthen our ability to defend and deter across the Euro-Atlantic 
area.

    11. Senator Hirono. General Wolters, in your statement to the 
Committee, you highlighted the importance of your partnership with the 
State Department on the Russian Influence Group (RIG), which is 
designed to counter Russian disinformation. Can you provide additional 
information on this program?
    General Wolters. The Russia Influence Group (RIG) is a United 
States interagency forum focused on taking coordinated actions that 
counter Russian malign influence. It is co-led by the Department of 
State's Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs and USEUCOM. This 
collaborative program supports U.S. national strategy, including 
executive and legislative branch policy and guidance.

    12. Senator Hirono. General Wolters, do you think more funding for 
the RIG program would be beneficial?
    General Wolters. Yes, the RIG is currently funded through July 
2021. USEUCOM has submitted a request for $2 million of the required 
funding to fund the RIG beyond July 2021. This additional funding 
request will expand interagency collaboration and enable the RIG to 
better contribute towards holistic solutions. This program provides 
tremendous value-add towards countering Russian malign influence 
through a whole-of-government approach.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                             cyber security
    13. Senator Rosen. General Wolters, how are you preparing the 
Alliance to better defend its networks and operations against the 
growing sophistication of cyber threats and attacks, and what more 
should the U.S. and our allies be doing?
    General Wolters. NATO continues to adapt to the evolving cyber 
threat landscape. In 2020, NATO released the Concept for the Deterrence 
and Defense of the Euro-Atlantic Area. To support this effort, NATO 
bolstered deterrence efforts in cyberspace by establishing a cyberspace 
operations center at the Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe in 
Mons, Belgium. Integrating cyber and information effects in joint U.S.-
NATO exercises enhances transparency and alignment and advances 
security cooperation. These combined efforts contribute to the 
Alliance's ability to address malicious cyber activity in a 21st 
century security environment.
    The U.S. must continue to support NATO's cyber adaptation efforts 
in order to maintain Alliance relevance in Cyberspace. USEUCOM works 
routinely with the Alliance to normalize cyberspace operations through 
combined exercises that build readiness and a foundation for 
deterrence. USEUCOM delivers support to Allies and Partners who are 
developing their cyber capabilities through ``train, advise, and 
assist'' missions that build cyber capability and capacity. USEUCOM 
also invests in Alliance cooperation in cyberspace. The recent Solar 
Winds attack illustrates the importance of sharing actionable and 
timely information with our Allies to minimize exposure to 
vulnerabilities we know our adversaries exploit.

    14. Senator Rosen. General Wolters, are we providing assistance to 
vulnerable allies to develop and maintain capabilities they could not 
afford to develop or procure alone? If so, can you talk about how the 
vulnerability of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) partners 
impacts U.S. national security?
    General Wolters. USEUCOM trains, advises, and equips Allies and 
Partners through security cooperation programs to bolster our 
collective self-defense across the Alliance, protecting both NATO and 
U.S. national security. For example, USEUCOM assists in provisioning 
defensive cyber capabilities to modernize and harden Ally and Partner 
networks. USEUCOM also provides assistance on critical gaps in cyber 
incident response and cyber workforce recruitment, training, and 
retention which is key to developing and maintaining those delivered 
capabilities.

    15. Senator Rosen. General Wolters, in 2014, NATO made cyber 
defense a core part of collective defense by declaring that a cyber 
attack could lead to the invocation of NATO's collective defense 
clause, or Article 5, meaning that an armed attack against one is 
considered an armed attack against all. What is the threshold for a 
cyber-attack that could lead to invoking Article 5?
    General Wolters. The Alliance stands ready to compete in all 
domains, including cyber. Secretary General Stoltenberg has highlighted 
the negative impact cyber attacks can have on our Allies' security. His 
comments, in light of the increasing threat posed by malign cyber 
actors, continues to drive Allied investment in cyber preparedness. The 
Alliance focuses on improving resourcing, training, and growing 
personnel commitments that enable the collective to compete below the 
threshold of war, deter, and prevail in the cyber domain today. Whether 
a particular cyber attack rises to the level of an ``armed attack'' 
would be decided during Article 4 consultations. The Allies maintain a 
degree of ambiguity with respect to their national level red-lines 
which might invoke an Article 4 request for consultations. In this 
regard, it is worth noting that events must reach a threshold that 
threatens the security of NATO or a NATO Ally individually.
     vaccine distribution to united states servicemembers in europe
    16. Senator Rosen. General Wolters, can you describe the challenges 
with vaccine distribution at our installations in Europe?
    General Wolters. The initial supply-constrained environment 
required USEUCOM to follow the Department of Defense (DOD) population 
schema to maximize vaccine utilization. As the United States and DOD 
increase vaccine supply, we will be able to more rapidly inoculate our 
eligible population. USEUCOM is on pace to meet the 19 April date set 
by President Biden to offer vaccinations to all eligible adult 
beneficiaries. We are also postured to meet the milestone of 70% of the 
total eligible DOD population, including beneficiaries, to be fully 
vaccinated by 15 August.

    17. Senator Rosen. General Wolters, have there been any recent 
delays in vaccine shipments? If yes, can you name the installations 
that have been most affected by such delays?
    General Wolters. There are no current delays in shipments of 
vaccines to the USEUCOM Area of Responsibility.
                              f-35 program
    18. Senator Rosen. General Wolters, can you confirm that 5th 
generation airpower is a requirement for your mission in EUCOM, and can 
you explain how 5th generation aircraft, like F-35, meet that 
requirement?
    General Wolters. The F-35 is the cornerstone of our global fighter 
fleet going forward. This is especially true in Europe as we work 
alongside our five currently equipped F-35 Allies to deter and prepare 
to respond to adversary aggression. The F-35's integrated, battlespace 
information-sharing, and hardened sensors and weapons enable rapid 
decision-making and extend the range of integrated off-board systems 
across the Joint Force. As more Allies and Partners purchase the F-35A, 
with approximately 460 aircraft are expected in theater by 2030, its 
high commonality with the U.S. F-35B and C variants allows USEUCOM to 
leverage common maintenance practices enabling rapid mobility across 
the continent with minimal footprint.

    19. Senator Rosen. General Wolters, has the F-35 program had a 
positive impact on both military and diplomatic relations with these 
key allies?
    General Wolters. As more nations partner to invest in the F-35, it 
broadens our cooperation and strengthens our ties with key Allies in 
Europe. Through this shared platform, maintenance practices, 
intelligence preparation, and alignment of tactics, techniques, and 
procedures, we are stronger, better prepared, and more lethal together. 
The F-35 will reach its full potential, with the inclusion of our 
partners, to enhance our deterrence capabilities and better defend the 
Euro-Atlantic. Seven countries have purchased the F-35, and with even 
more nations within USEUCOM Area of Responsibility expressing interest 
in the program.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe
                                ukraine
    20. Senator Inhofe. General Wolters, you testified that the lethal 
aid the United States has provided to Ukraine through the Ukraine 
Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) has been ``very helpful''. What 
specific elements of USAI have advanced Ukraine's ability to deter 
further Russian aggression?
    General Wolters. USAI enables procuring critical equipment and 
enhancing Ukraine's combat capability and credibility. Ukraine's 
ability to field a combat capable force serves as the greatest 
deterrence against further aggression in the region. Under the category 
of lethal aid, USAI is funding armed Mark VI patrol boats, counter-
artillery radars, sniper capabilities, and Precision Shoulder-fired 
Rocket Launchers. Non-lethal assistance under USAI includes 
capabilities across domains such as secure communications, electronic 
warfare systems, counter-unmanned aerial systems, cyber and information 
technology capabilities, and night vision devices, all of which are 
necessary in 21st century warfare.

    21. Senator Inhofe. General Wolters, what specific elements of USAI 
have supported EUCOM's objectives in the Black Sea Region?
    General Wolters. In the Black Sea region, USAI is improving 
Ukraine's ability to defend against ongoing Russian aggression, most 
notably by funding armed Mark VI patrol boats and armaments for Island 
Class Patrol Boats. This fleet of modernized patrol boats enables the 
Ukrainian navy to improve its maritime patrol capabilities and 
situational awareness, serving as a deterrent to Russian aggression.
                                  f-35
    22. Senator Inhofe. General Wolters, you testified that the F-35 is 
necessary for you to ``have a competitive advantage necessary to 
protect our sovereign territory.'' Please describe in specific detail 
how this platform contributes to that competitive advantage.
    General Wolters. The F-35 is the cornerstone of our global fighter 
fleet going forward. This is especially true in Europe as we work 
alongside our five currently equipped F-35 Allies to deter and prepare 
to respond to adversary aggression. The F-35's integrated sensors and 
ability to share critical information throughout the battlespace enable 
rapid decision making, extend the range of integrated off-board weapons 
systems, and allow greater degree of maneuverability in contested 
environments. The F-35 is a critical enabler of our ability to fight in 
the air and target enemy ground systems that would contest our access 
to any domain we deem necessary. As more Allies and Partners purchase 
the F-35A, with approximately 460 aircraft are expected in theater by 
2030, its high commonality with the U.S. F-35B and C variants allows 
USEUCOM to leverage common maintenance practices enabling rapid 
mobility across the continent with minimal footprint.
                     european deterrence initiative
    23. Senator Inhofe. General Wolters, you testified that reductions 
to the defense budget and to the European Deterrence Initiative (EDI) 
funding would ``slow down our campaign momentum that we've been able to 
sustain for the last 4 years in improving our indications and warnings, 
our command and control, and our readiness. What investments through 
EDI have improved capabilities in each of these?
    General Wolters. EDI enables USEUCOM to meet U.S. national security 
requirements in concert with our Allies and Partners. Stable, 
predictable, and consistent EDI funding is needed to maintain and 
improve our ability to succeed in this strategic competition era.
    An example of success is building and procuring Army pre-
positioning stock equipment sets and Air Force basing equipment to 
increase our speed across the theater to effectively posture at a time 
of need. EDI funds continue to improve our Theater Undersea Warfare 
operations and build Mission Partner Environment (MPE) command and 
control (C2) networks. MPE networks (including the Atlantic Resolve 
mission network, Enhanced Forward Presence mission network, Maritime 
Mission Enclave, and the Maidan network) facilitate coalition multi-
national C2, training, exercises, and execution at the tactical and 
operational levels throughout the USEUCOM AOR.
    USEUCOM continues to improve our indications and warning and 
intelligence sharing with NATO Allies and European Partners across the 
AOR, most recently with Poland and Romania. We are requesting 
approximately $84 million to enhance cross-domain interoperable 
solutions for air and ground operations in support of theater 
requirements. The ability to increase the number of manned and unmanned 
platforms based on the changing environment improves situational 
awareness and support to Joint and Coalition operations.
    An investment of $209 million in European Deterrence Initiative 
exercises and training focused in the southern portion of USEUCOM will 
provide dedicated opportunities to refine Command and Control (C2) 
architecture, increase interoperability, and develop a more ready, 
lethal, combat-capable force.
                        multi-domain task force
    24. Senator Inhofe. General Wolters, you testified that the 
addition of 500 United States troops to Wiesbaden, Germany will be 
focused on a ``multi domain task force in a joint theaters fire 
organization . . . that will improve our ability in all domains, to 
bring fires from the surface to surface dimension to increase our 
ability to deter.'' Could you provide more detail about the elements of 
this task force, their capabilities, and how they will integrate into 
EUCOM planning and operations?
    General Wolters. The Multi-Domain Task Force--Europe (MDTF-E) will 
provide Mission Command of forces, integrate and liaise with applicable 
organizations, conduct targeting, and synchronize efforts in alignment 
with the USEUCOM objectives. MDTF-E will compete for influence and 
access to counter malign actors, prepare the environment, enable 
defense of friendly forces and critical nodes in competition and armed 
conflict, and conduct deliberate targeting. In a conflict, the MDTF-E 
will neutralize enemy forces, defend lines of communication, and 
provide support to dynamic and deliberate multi-domain targeting.
               service budgeting and requirements process
    25. Senator Inhofe. General Lyons, the tanker divestments were a 
very concerning issue last year. What is wrong with our requirements 
process when Congress has to step in to ensure you have enough tanker 
aircraft to stay mission ready?
    General Lyons. Last year, based on KC-46 delays, the Committee 
asked for an assessment of programmed retirements of KC-10 and KC-135 
aircraft. At that time, planned aircraft retirements, combined with KC-
46 delays, resulted in a 30% reduction in Active Component capacity, 
which would be insufficient to meet day-to-day needs across the Joint 
Force.
    This was a change from the USAF initial fleet program position, 
which retained sufficient air refueling capacity to mitigate risk. 
However, in the final days of budget formulation, the USAF was forced 
to absorb a significant reduction in funding. In order to protect 
future programs, the USAF opted to accept risk in the air refueling 
portfolio. This process, as designed, illuminates different risk 
perspectives of Services and Combatant Commanders.
    Since that date, technical solutions emerged and the Department has 
settled on an agreed upon force presentation plan that meets Joint 
Force requirements. Overall, though we have taken some ``lessons 
learned'' from this experience, I assess no systemic deficiencies in 
the requirements process.

    26. Senator Inhofe. General Lyons, why can't the Pentagon seem to 
provide resources for joint mission requirements, and do you have 
similar concerns with any other platforms today?
    General Lyons. Unfortunately, the President's Budget 2021 
submission adjusted air refueling fleet program quantities at the last 
minute, which did not allow for collaboration between stakeholders. 
This was an exceptional case. Generally, the budget process adequately 
balances risk and resources with involvement of relevant stakeholders. 
For the Fiscal Year 2022 President's Budget, the capabilities and 
capacity the Military Departments presented meet our needs, avoid 
significant risk in the near term, and allow for future mobility force 
shaping to meet modernization and operational requirements.
                    global household goods contract
    27. Senator Inhofe. General Lyons, I am concerned about the 
household goods contract because, according to reports, it would have 
cost taxpayers billions more for a ``best value'' Household Goods 
contract. As we have already seen this administration take the first 
steps to cut the defense budget, can you say why TRANSCOM felt these 
additional costs were worth such an increase in contract value?
    General Lyons. As outlined in the cost savings report directed by 
last year's Consolidated Appropriations Act, USTRANSCOM projected $210 
million in savings across the Future Years Defense Program as compared 
to DOD's spending in the current program. Many reports in the public 
domain--to potentially include the reports referenced in the question--
compared prices between bidders and did not consider the more than $2 
billion DOD spends today in a program no one is satisfied with. While 
our first award of the Global Household Goods Contract was not to the 
lowest bidder, it was to the company we assessed most capable of 
delivering the quality improvements we seek for military families at a 
lower cost than DOD spends on today's flawed program. I acknowledge--
and will comply with--the DOD Appropriations language to provide a 
report on the impact of the newly awarded contract to Service budgets.

    28. Senator Inhofe. General Lyons, what measures has TRANSCOM put 
in place to address the concerns that were upheld in the GAO protests?
    General Lyons. Last year GAO sustained 6 unique allegations of the 
75 total allegations made by two protestors. USTRANSCOM is in the 
process of addressing GAO's recommendations, which largely focused on 
better documenting the technical aspects of the proposal analysis 
process. None of the GAO's protest-related recommendations challenged 
the single move-manager construct, nor has GAO recommended any changes 
to the acquisition strategy or timeline.
    The contracting team significantly heightened its documentation of 
proposal evaluations. For instance, USTRANSCOM recorded and transcribed 
the in-person oral presentations to satisfy GAO's recommendation to 
document that aspect of the proposal evaluation process.
    Three offerors submitted new written proposals on 2 December 2020, 
and all three offerors are being evaluated from a ``clean slate,'' 
fully considering all of GAO's recommendations. In addition, three 
periods of ``third party'' peer reviews by Defense Pricing and 
Contracting professionals and the Department of the Air Force Judge 
Advocate General's Acquisition, Fiscal Law, and Litigation Directorate 
are woven into the acquisition's process and timeline. While TRANSCOM 
is disappointed in the protest-related delays, GAO's findings will make 
this acquisition stronger and the protest process underscores 
industry's interest in partnering with DOD to deliver this capability. 
We expect to award the Global Household Goods Contract in October 2021.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                                  nato
    29. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, the ``4 30s by 2020'' NATO 
Readiness Initiative is one of the most important commitments allies 
have made in recent years. How are allies progressing in fulfilling the 
commitments they've made?
    General Wolters. The NATO Secretary General's 2020 Annual Report 
stated, ``Allies delivered on the commitment to having 30 mechanized 
battalions, 30 air squadrons, and 30 combat vessels ready to use within 
30 days or less. Allies are now working on the implementation of the 
initiative by establishing larger formations.''
    NATO Allies have continued to improve their readiness of national 
forces in support of the Alliance's collective defense, enhancing 
NATO's ability to reinforce its Allies with the ``right forces in the 
right place at the right time.''

    30. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, of naval, air, and land 
forces, which readiness commitments are farthest along?
    General Wolters. Across all domains, NATO continues adapting to 
meet the challenges and complexities of our dynamic security 
environment. Since 2020, when all thirty Defense Ministers endorsed 
NATO's concept for the Deterrence and Defense of the Euro-Atlantic Area 
(DDA), we continue to make great strides in driving NATO reform, 
primarily through the NATO Readiness Initiative (NRI). In the last two 
years, the Alliance has nearly tripled its naval and air activities to 
roughly 120 days of operations in the Black Sea region executed by NATO 
flagged forces. In the air domain, five Allied and Partner nations are 
now equipped with the F-35, broadening our cooperation, increasing the 
integration and complexity of national air capabilities into Bomber 
Task Force missions, and enhancing our deterrence capabilities while 
leveraging common maintenance and support enablers. On land, Allies 
deter aggression as part of NATO's four multinational battle groups, as 
does our enhanced forward presence in the Black Sea region. We 
strengthen these 21st century warfare pillars in events like the 
integration of the U.S. DEFENDER and NATO STEADFAST DEFENDER Series 
exercises to demonstrate all domain convergence across land, sea, and 
air. We will bring together 28,000 U.S. Allied and Partner 
servicemembers from 26 countries across 16 nations and for six weeks 
will develop future capabilities, build Alliance readiness, and improve 
our operational and strategic alignment.

    31. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, which do we need to focus on 
more?
    General Wolters. We continue to improve readiness across all 
domains and all regions. There are always some challenges with 
supplying high demand, low density capabilities which have readiness 
implications. Although each nation maintains responsibility for their 
own readiness, USEUCOM works bilaterally, regionally, and through the 
Alliance to increase readiness and interoperability to better deter and 
defend the Euro-Atlantic. We will continue to pursue a robust exercise 
program as funding allows to improve readiness in all domains with 
Allies and Partners.

    32. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, another key initiative from 
the 2018 Summit was to improve NATO's military mobility, which 
addresses physical and regulatory roadblocks to movement of U.S. and 
Allied forces across the area of responsibility (AOR). What more can we 
do, and in what ways can we encourage our allies and European partners 
to do more to facilitate our forces' faster movement across the 
continent?
    General Wolters. Our robust exercise program, including the U.S. 
DEFENDER Europe and the NATO STEADFAST DEFENDER series, ensures that 
our forces are trained, interoperable, and ready to conduct combat-
credible movement across the European continent. Multilateral forums, 
active participation across several NATO committees, and numerous 
Allied and partner bilateral engagements serve as our best means to 
incorporate lessons learned from these exercises and our rotational 
deployments to continue advancing freedom of movement in Europe.

    33. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, allied Ministers of Foreign 
affairs recently directed NATO to address climate change, including 
potentially reviewing the Alliance's operational plans and 
capabilities. How will you balance this against ongoing key efforts to 
deter Russia and address emerging threats from China?
    General Wolters. USEUCOM acknowledges the challenges presented by 
climate change and the guidance from the Secretary of Defense. In 
today's complex security environment, relations with like-minded 
partners across the globe are increasingly important to address cross-
cutting security issues and global challenges, as well as to defend the 
rules-based international order. Our European Allies and Partners will 
be directly affected by instability, resource competition, and 
humanitarian and migration crises caused by climate change. These 
threats add to the security challenges in Europe. Maintaining peace on 
the European continent is USEUCOM's purpose and we must compliment the 
whole-of-government approach to combating climate change.
    We will continue to assess the operational environment to determine 
the security implications of climate change, such as the opening of the 
Arctic Region. USEUCOM will continue to counter aggression by 
demonstrating robust capabilities and through extensive collaboration 
with our Allies and Partners. Our distinct advantage against any threat 
is our unmatched network of Allies and Partners across the European 
region. Addressing climate change together provides an even greater 
opportunity to bring the United States and our European Allies and 
Partners into closer alignment.

    34. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, what allies or regions within 
the Alliance do you see the U.S. military directing more focus?
    General Wolters. USEUCOM continues a balanced focus on security in 
several geostrategic regions including the Arctic / High North, Baltic 
Sea Region, and the Black Sea Region as well as space and cyber. As the 
Arctic continues to open, this region has emerged as a stage for 
political, economic, and military competition. Our initiatives in the 
Baltic Sea Region defend and deter aggression and enhance 
interoperability with our NATO Allies. In the Black Sea Region, we 
continue to support Ukraine's sovereignty and work closely with our 
Allies in the region to bolster regional stability.
                                 turkey
    35. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, as a NATO ally, Washington has 
committed America to come to Turkey's defense if Turkey is attacked. 
This has not only failed to moderate Turkey's behavior, it has allowed 
Turkey's Government to aggressively pursue its own interests at the 
expense of American interests. Are Turkey's national objections counter 
to NATO and its allies? If so, what are EUCOM and NATO doing to deter 
this situation?
    General Wolters. The principle of collective defense, often called 
Article 5, is at the very heart of NATO's founding treaty. Collective 
defense remains a unique and enduring principle that binds NATO 
members, committing them to protect one another, and setting a spirit 
of solidarity within the Alliance. Turkey, like all sovereign nations 
within NATO, pursues its own national interests in addition to those of 
the Alliance. They have a pivotal role in regional security and remain 
a strategic United States Ally and critical to NATO and US interests in 
Europe, Eurasia, North Africa, and the Middle East. They possess the 
Alliance's second largest military and contribute to NATO missions in 
Afghanistan, Iraq, Kosovo, and the Mediterranean Sea.

    36. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, what thoughts do you have on 
United States and the European Union (EU) ``whole-of-government'' 
actions?
    General Wolters. The challenges we face today require a whole-of-
government, whole-of-nation and whole-of-alliance approach. One major 
benefit of democracies working together is how these governments can 
generate peace, both within their borders and abroad. Ultimately, the 
NATO Alliance underpins security for the Euro-Atlantic, the European 
Union, and the United States.
                      nato anti-submarine warfare
    37. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, in your role as NATO's Supreme 
Allied Commander Europe, you have one of the strongest grasps on 
military capabilities of our allies and the threats that we all face in 
the European theater. It is my understanding that adversarial submarine 
threat--in particular from Russia--continues to take significant ally 
and U.S. resources. I also understand that the NATO coalition is 
considering investments in new anti-submarine warfare capabilities, 
which would be a welcome way to relieve some of the burden from U.S. 
efforts. Can you talk about the seriousness of the adversarial 
submarine threat in the European theater, and do you think it would be 
helpful if NATO invested in additional anti-submarine warfare 
capabilities?
    General Wolters. The Alliance actively deters and competes with 
Russia under the sea. Russia has recently demonstrated more significant 
submarine capability than any time in the past 30 years. Many of our 
NATO Allies recognized this threat and responded by investing in their 
anti-submarine warfare capabilities. The United Kingdom and France have 
already deployed significant capabilities while Norway and Denmark 
continue to explore additional opportunities. Iceland routinely 
supports basing of our maritime patrol aircraft. All of this 
contributes to the Alliance's ever-increasing capability to deter and 
respond to threats.

    38. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, the U.S. Navy has a fleet of 
P-8A Poseidons supporting the anti-submarine warfare mission in Europe. 
Are there ways that the U.S. leadership could encourage or support NATO 
investment in a similar capability, either through synergies in 
logistics, basing, or training?
    General Wolters. Many of our Allies support U.S. P-8 operations in 
Europe, most significantly through host-nation support to basing of the 
patrol aircraft. The United Kingdom and Norway have P-8 programs of 
their own and Germany may potentially develop one as well. United 
States leadership and advocacy for European Allied investments in 
maritime patrol and anti-submarine capabilities is always beneficial 
and contributes to campaign momentum within the Alliance.
                      joint strike fighter (f-35)
    39. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, can you confirm that 5th 
generation airpower is a requirement for your mission in EUCOM, and can 
you explain how 5th generation aircraft, like F-35, meet that 
requirement?
    General Wolters. The F-35 is the cornerstone of our global fighter 
fleet going forward. This is especially true in Europe as we work 
alongside our five currently equipped F-35 Allies to deter and prepare 
to respond to adversary aggression. The F-35's integrated, battlespace 
information-sharing, and hardened sensors and weapons enable rapid 
decision-making and extend the range of integrated off-board systems 
across the Joint Force.

    40. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, many of our key allies in 
Europe are participants in the F-35 program. In your opinion, has the 
F-35 program had a positive impact on both military and diplomatic 
relations with these key allies?
    General Wolters. The F-35 program success in Europe has definitely 
made a positive impact. Allied F-35s routinely play a critical role in 
generating peace in the Euro-Atlantic through support to bomber task 
force missions by escorting B-52s and B-2s. These missions increase our 
interoperability, hone our tactics, techniques, and procedures, bolster 
deterrence, and validate our integrated approach.
    In addition to sharing a common airframe, sharing best practices 
and common understanding of employment enhances our transparency and 
alignment to train and operate alongside our Allies and Partners. One 
example of a long term success story is the Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot 
Training Program (ENJJTP), soon celebrating its 40th anniversary, which 
trains over 50 European pilots a year. The specific capabilities of the 
F-35, our partnership with F-35-equipped Allies and Partners, and our 
combined investments allow us to effectively compete and defend in the 
Euro-Atlantic.

    41. Senator Tillis. General Wolters, Russia's advanced air defenses 
and fighter capabilities are rapidly increasing in capability and 
capacity. These factors are pushing 4th generation aircraft to greater 
stand-off ranges, often beyond the targeting ranges of their weapons 
and sensors. In addition, in Europe, we see a threat density that 
creates a far greater capacity requirement for legacy platforms and 
weapons. Can you explain the importance of stand-in capabilities, such 
as 5th generation aircraft, and what advantages they provide if an 
engagement with Russia were to occur?
    General Wolters. The F-35 delivers weapons in highly contested 
environments, opening the door for wider access to other air systems. 
The platform's combined low observable capabilities (most advanced 
fighter aircraft sensor suite) and communication abilities enables the 
F-35 to fuse inputs from across the theater. This enables better 
indications and warning, providing a more cohesive operating picture 
for a whole of alliance action. The strengths the F-35 platform brings 
to the fight enable multi-domain operations elsewhere, including on the 
ground, in space, and at sea.
                          air-to-air refueling
    42. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, the KC-46A Pegasus aircraft has 
yet to achieve full rate production and lacks a remote visual system 
that is fully functional during all light levels. Moreover, a KC-46 
carries only 2,000 lbs more transferable fuel than a KC-135 and carries 
140,000 lbs less than a KC-10. In an effort to reduce cost at the risk 
of mission failure, the Air Force seeks to retire legacy aircraft with 
fully functional and approved fuel transfer systems; specifically, KC-
10s. In your opinion, are cost savings more important than strategic 
mission success? Put differently, should a legacy platform with proven, 
capable systems be maintained and utilized over a future system that 
has yet to meet primary mission requirements?
    General Lyons. While it is true that fully-operational KC-46s are 
not available until fiscal year 2024, the Air Force developed an 
interim capability release (ICR) process that will make KC-46s 
available for tasking as early as this year. This is a critical step to 
advance KC-46 fielding and maintain credible capacity. Further, the 
global strategic environment has significantly changed. As recently as 
2017, USTRANSCOM supported 70 air refueling aircraft deployed to 
USCENTCOM. By 2022, this support will drop to about 35 aircraft. That 
reduction in demand coupled with the recently developed KC-46 Interim 
Capability Release (ICR) process, allows for the measured divestiture 
of KC-10s and KC-135s. This allows aircrews to transition to the KC-46, 
which is a critical step to advance KC-46 fielding and grow capacity in 
that airframe. The KC-135s and KC-10s remain critical as we build 
capacity in the KC-46, and even with the fielding of the KC-46, there 
will remain 300 KC-135s in the air refueling fleet. Our Mobility 
Capability Requirements Study (MCRS)-20 study, which was delivered to 
the Congress on 30 June 2021, clearly shows the air refueling mission 
absolutely is critical to cover every one of the five NDS wartime 
missions, and the air refueling fleet is at elevated risk to performing 
those missions in simultaneous timeframes in contested environments. 
USTRANSCOM agrees with the U.S. Air Force on a retirement profile for 
KC-10s and KC-135s in fiscal year 2022. I assess this is the best 
approach to retain sufficient capacity for combatant command support, 
provide for full-spectrum readiness training, and hasten use of the KC-
46 for those missions it is capable of supporting without increasing 
risk to certain receiver aircraft or high-priority missions.

    43. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, how many KC-46A air-to-air 
refueling missions are being sourced outside continental United States 
(OCONUS) by TRANSCOM?
    General Lyons. The following numbers reflect the number of OCONUS 
sorties flown for each of the last few years. It includes Active Duty 
AMC tails only (not Air National Guard (ANG), Air Force Reserve Command 
(AFRC), Air Education & Training Command (AETC), United States Air 
Forces in Europe (USAFE), Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), Air Force 
Materiel Command (AFMC), or Air Force Special Operations Command 
(AFSOC)) that either took off or landed outside of the United States:
    Calendar Year 2018: 0 OCONUS KC-46 sorties
    Calendar Year 2019: 25 OCONUS KC-46 sorties
    Calendar Year 2020: 123 OCONUS KC-46 sorties
    Calendar Year 2021: 83 OCONUS KC-46 sorties (thru 31 May)

    44. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, how many KC-10 air-to-air 
refueling missions are being sourced OCONUS by TRANSCOM?
    General Lyons. The following numbers reflect the number of OCONUS 
sorties flown for each of the last few years. It includes Active Duty 
AMC tails only (not ANG, AFRC, AETC, USAFE, PACAF, AFMC, or AFSOC) that 
either took off or landed outside of the United States:
    Calendar Year 2018: 4,319 OCONUS KC-10 sorties
    Calendar Year 2019: 4,546 OCONUS KC-10 sorties
    Calendar Year 2020: 2,927 OCONUS KC-10 sorties
    Calendar Year 2021: 983 OCONUS KC-10 sorties (thru 31 May)

    45. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, do you support the Air Force's 
expedited retirement initiative of KC-10s?
    General Lyons. TRANSCOM currently has sufficient capacity to meet 
day-to-day and crisis response demands. I support the KC-10 adjusted 
retirement profile outlined by the U.S. Air Force (USAF) Legislative 
Proposal (FY22), which slows the original retirement profile. With 
exceptional support from the USAF, three additional positive 
developments occurred over the last year, that allowed TRANSCOM to 
retain sufficient capacity to meet mission requirements. First, Boeing 
came to terms with the responsibility to fix the KC-46 Category 1 
deficiencies, enabling the USAF to present a KC-46 Interim Capability 
Release. Second, the USAF funded additional MPA to increase the 
Reserve/Guard air refueling capacity/contributions. Finally, we are 
seeing a reduction in air refueling demand in the CENTCOM AOR.

    46. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, how important is it that 
``warfighters train like they fight'' and prepare for future 
deployments by tanking from platforms that they will encounter overseas 
and in combat?
    General Lyons. USTRANSCOM's top priority is warfighting readiness 
and ensuring our component commands are capable of supporting their 
wartime missions. As such, training for a high-end warfight is an 
absolute necessity. As operational activity decreased in Southwest 
Asia, a greater focus across the entire Mobility Air Force, including 
air refueling forces, shifted to full-spectrum readiness. Since 2015, 
the average daily number of global air refueling missions was 139, and 
by the end of 2020, the average dropped to 100. This created 
opportunity for aircrews to conduct necessary high-end training. Tanker 
crew training is certainly necessary, but receiver pilot training 
presents a priority in order to maintain their combat edge. Looking to 
the future, air refueling workload appears balanced with expected 
capacity, especially with the KC-46 interim capability release process. 
With the projected balanced workload, the air refueling fleet will be 
postured to support global taskings, but also execute the necessary 
training to prepare for potential future contingencies.

    47. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, the Air Force and TRANSCOM have 
previously stated that more than 25,000 hours of aerial refueling 
missions are not being supported annually. Given that the KC-46 is 
still not fully operational, and the Air Force has already begun 
retiring some of the KC-10 fleet, I assume that there is still a 
significant shortfall in TRANSCOM's aerial refueling capacity. What is 
the current shortfall?
    General Lyons. In April 2020, The Secretary of the Air Force 
provided the Congress with a report titled, ``Fiscal Year 2020 NDAA 
Contractor-Operated Aerial Refueling Aircraft.'' That reported 
extrapolated ``as many as 30,000 hours of aerial refueling missions are 
not being supported annually.'' That assessment resonates with the 
Joint Force's insatiable appetite for aerial refueling. However, 
requests for air refueling capability vary in criticality and are often 
unconstrained by resources. That said, the air refueling fleet remains 
stressed. USTRANSCOM manages the tension between available resources 
and requests for capability in order to prevent mission failure.
    The transition to the KC-46 created an air refueling capacity 
bathtub, meaning the air refueling enterprise is at a low point in 
available capacity. However, acceptance of the KC-46 will ameliorate 
this capacity low point. Additionally, as forces withdraw from 
Southwest Asia, air refueling demands also decrease. As recently as 
2017, USTRANSCOM supported 70 air refueling aircraft deployed to 
CENTCOM. By 2022, this will drop to about 35 aircraft. Additionally, 
the KC-46 crew ratio is higher across the Total Force when compared to 
both the KC-135 and about the same as the KC-10. When fully delivered 
and manned in 2029, roughly 160 more air refueling crews across the 
Total Force will exist, providing 10% more taskable aircraft on a daily 
basis than we had in 2019, before any aircraft were retired. While we 
have a shortfall today, the trajectory is improving over time and will 
accelerate as the KC-46 reaches full operational capability.

    48. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, how does this impact training 
for aircrews and tanker availability for combatant command (COCOM)?
    General Lyons. USTRANSCOM's top priority is warfighting readiness 
and ensuring our component commands are capable of supporting their 
wartime missions. As such, training for a high-end warfight is an 
absolute necessity. As operational activity decreased in Southwest 
Asia, a greater focus across the entire Mobility Air Force, including 
air refueling forces, shifted to full-spectrum readiness. Since 2015, 
the average daily number of global air refueling missions was 139, and 
by the end of 2020, the average dropped to 100. This created 
opportunity for aircrews to conduct necessary high-end training. Tanker 
crew training is certainly necessary, but receiver pilot training 
presents a priority in order to maintain their combat edge. While the 
number of tasked air refueling missions was about 100 a day in 2020, 
USTRANSCOM committed an additional 68 aircraft to receiver training. 
Looking to the future, air refueling workload is balanced with expected 
capacity, especially with the relief gained through use of the KC-46 
interim capability release that can support many non-deployed and lower 
priority missions, freeing up fully capable KC-10 and KC-135 units to 
provide necessary support and refocus on training.

    49. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, last year you testified before 
this Committee that the KC-10 and KC-135 legacy tanker retirements 
proposed in fiscal year 2021 would ``create a capacity bathtub with 
significant impacts to Combatant Command (COCOM) daily competition and 
wartime missions, and negatively impact senior leader decision space 
for mobilization when confronted with a crisis.'' Congress prevented 
some, but not all, of these retirements in the Fiscal Year 2021 
National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Given that the KC-46 is 
still not fully operational, and aerial refueling requirements have 
presumably either increased or remained the same, would you support 
efforts to increase tanker capacity in order to meet aircrew training 
and daily COCOM operational requirements?
    General Lyons. USTRANSCOM supports the USAF initiative to employ 
Interim Capability Release (ICR) process for use of current KC-46 
aircraft with some restrictions, adjustments to the KC-10 and KC-135 
retirement profile, and increases to Reserve Component contributions to 
mitigate the air refueling ``capacity bathtub'' identified last year. 
As you recall, last year there was no agreed upon technical solution to 
fix the KC-46 Remote Visual System (RVS) Category 1 Deficiency or a 
path forward on usable KC-46 capacity. Both of these issues have been 
resolved and given these USAF initiatives, I assess sufficient air 
refueling capacity remains to meet global Joint Force demands during 
the transition to a fully operational KC-46. No additional air 
refueling capacity is needed beyond the President's Budget 2022 
position to meet aircrew training and daily Combatant Command 
requirements.

    50. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, I have serious concerns 
regarding the Air Force's desire to retire a significant number of 
legacy tankers prior to the KC-46 becoming fully operational. I am 
particularly concerned by the potential loss of the KC-10, which 
provides significantly more fuel offload than both the KC-135 and the 
KC-46. I understand that the KC-10 fleet has many more years left in 
terms of potential service life, and am concerned that prematurely 
retiring such a strategic asset would result in a loss of warfighter 
capability that cannot be regained for many years to come. Please 
describe the importance of the KC-10 to TRANSCOM's aerial refueling 
capability, and the potential impact to missions for Air Force, Navy, 
and Marine Corps pilots and aircrews if we cut additional KC-10s.
    General Lyons. The KC-10 delivers necessary and relevant capability 
for all NDS wartime missions. Unfortunately, these aircraft are 
expensive to maintain. A value-assessment of air refueling systems must 
incorporate current utility, future capability and cost. USTRANSCOM 
concurs with the USAF decision to divest the KC-10 in order to 
facilitate the fielding of a fully operational KC-46 weapon system, 
which appears to be on track. In the near-term, the USAF is making KC-
46s available for USTRANSCOM missions via the KC-46 Interim Capability 
Release process to ensure sufficient capacity to meet global AR 
demands, in combination with existing KC-10 and KC-135 aircraft.

    51. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, I understand that, although the 
KC-46 has been cleared to conduct some aerial refueling missions, the 
aircraft will not be considered to be fully operational until major 
deficiencies such as the Remote Visual System are resolved, which 
likely won't be until 2023 at the earliest. I was surprised to learn 
that, despite this non- or semi-operational status, the KC-46s being 
delivered are being coded into the Primary Mission Aircraft Inventory 
(PMAI). Please explain why these aircraft are given the same inventory 
status as fully operational KC-10s or KC-135s.
    General Lyons. Aircraft are coded as PMAI to signify the airframe 
has resources to support flying operations, such as weapon system 
support, maintenance and flying crews, and flying hours programmed 
against it. Using the established PMAI criteria, it is appropriate to 
code the aircraft as PMAI especially as the U.S. Air Force looks to 
generate the crew force necessary to operate the aircraft. With the 
U.S. Air Force making limited KC-46 capacity available for USTRANSCOM 
tasking, it is important that weapon system has the resourcing to 
sustain and grow operational capacity over time. A trained crew force 
allows the growth of the KC-46 capacity to execute additional taskings 
to support the Joint Force in the future.

    52. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, I understand that there have 
been conversations regarding possible uses for KC-10 aircraft prior to 
being fully retired and sent to the boneyard. I understand that one 
option is to provide the aircraft to industry, either through sale or 
as Government Furnished Equipment, for use in a commercial air 
refueling program. I understand that the Navy and Marine Corps have 
been successfully utilizing a commercial air refueling program for the 
last 20+ years. What is the status of those discussions?
    General Lyons. As I understand, discussions regarding commercial 
air refueling are ongoing and potential options are currently 
undergoing further study by the Air Force. I would defer to the Air 
Force on the results of their study and whether or not it determines 
commercial air refueling as a viable means to meet USTRANSCOM's air 
refueling requirements.

    53. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, shouldn't KC-10 retirements be 
halted until a decision is made on commercial air refueling?
    General Lyons. No, in coordination with the Air Force, we have 
developed a sustainable way forward that maintains sufficient air 
refueling capacity to meet requirements as we bridge to the KC-46. The 
Air Force Interim Capability Release (ICR) process that makes KC-46 
capacity available for limited USTRANSCOM tasking is a key step forward 
that will help with the transition to that platform. USTRANSCOM 
supports the KC-10 divestment profile submitted by the Department of 
Defense which slows retirement pending KC-46 outcomes.

    54. Senator Tillis. General Lyons, do you believe TRANSCOM and the 
Air Force should be pursuing a commercial air refueling program to 
address current and future aerial refueling shortfalls?
    General Lyons. USTRANSCOM will continue to monitor and evaluate 
operational requirements. However, we would differ to the U.S. Air 
Force, as the force provider, to determine cost-effective, legal, and 
operational credible alternatives to their current air refueling 
construct.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                                 china
    55. Senator Blackburn. General Wolters, what specific 
vulnerabilities--economic, security, or otherwise--is China exploiting 
amongst our European partners and allies that it was not exploiting 
before the COVID-19 pandemic?
    General Wolters. The People's Republic of China's (PRC) aggressive 
economic and diplomatic activities in the USEUCOM AOR signal Beijing's 
desire to build influence in Europe and challenge the established 
rules-based international order with an alternative model. Since the 
onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, China has attempted to exploit needs 
across Europe for critical health supplies and vaccines, which were 
less viable avenues for influence before the pandemic. Beijing has used 
the pandemic to expand exports to the region and attempt to elevate its 
status as a global power. Beijing has delivered COVID-19 vaccines to 
Hungary, North Macedonia, and Serbia, all countries the Chinese Defense 
Minister visited in March. Beijing is also publicly advocating for EU 
approval of its vaccines, which would allow the vaccines to be used 
across the region. China has also paired this economic engagement with 
an aggressive disinformation campaign. Chinese officials used 
disinformation and state-owned media to counter negative press and 
criticism in Europe and are spreading propaganda about its vaccines in 
the region.
    Coupled with China's growing interest and investment in European 
ports and critical infrastructure, these activities complicate our 
steady state and contingency operations. We articulate this risk to our 
European defense counterparts and highlight shared values, interests, 
and equitable business practices that distinguish the U.S. as a partner 
of choice. European nations are becoming increasingly aware of, and 
concerned about, the risks associated with Chinese capital and 
investment from the PRC.

    56. Senator Blackburn. General Wolters, what actions could the 
United States take to achieve better buy-in from European partners and 
allies to cooperatively deter Beijing and to negotiate from a position 
of strength?
    General Wolters. In Europe, we work on multiple fronts through NATO 
to develop a common framework to respond to the challenges posed by 
China, which includes engaging with Allies and Partners on the Indo-
Pacific, and working with Allies and Partners to strengthen resilience 
in the areas like critical technology and infrastructure. We share 
information, discuss common risks, and create a shared understanding of 
the challenges to global security and the rules-based international 
order which increases U.S. alignment with our Allies and Partners.
    In NATO, there is increasing recognition of the impact of China on 
the changing international security environment. The NATO 2030 Report 
notes that ``[NATO] must show political cohesion and remain a platform 
for consultation on China's actions and Allies' reactions; defending 
Allies' values and an international order based on rules.''
    Active United States engagement with European countries has also 
led to a more guarded posture in Europe on 5G and Huawei, balancing and 
limiting Chinese influence in USEUCOM. Multiple European nations 
enacted restrictions last year on the use of equipment by untrustworthy 
Chinese manufacturers in the rollout of mobile networks that use 5G 
technology. We continue to emphasize to European nations that the 
United States is the security partner of choice.

    57. Senator Blackburn. General Wolters, what high-return-on-
investment activities do you identify for the United States and NATO 
allies to deter Chinese aggression?
    General Wolters. In terms of military return-on-investment, our 
first priority is to defend the Euro-Atlantic and deter adversaries. 
Many NATO Allies have taken impactful actions to support a free and 
open Indo-Pacific and to strengthen cooperation with Partners in the 
Indo-Pacific as well. Specifically, France, Germany, and the 
Netherlands sent ships to the Indo-Pacific this year to support a 
rules-based international order and in some cases conduct multinational 
training with the U.S. and Indo-Pacific partners. As part of the UK's 
tilt to the Indo-Pacific, the UK Carrier Strike Group 21 (CSG21), 
headed by the HMS Queen Elizabeth, will deploy to the Pacific with 
stops in India, Japan, South Korea, and Singapore.
    Economically, there is increased awareness among Allies of the 
threats posed by Chinese investment and infrastructure in Europe, with 
industries and governments expressing concerns over doing business with 
China and limiting Chinese commercial transactions that threaten 
national security respectively. The Baltic nations have all signed 5G 
security agreements with the United States, and downgraded their 
participation in the annual 17+1 forum with China this year.

    58. Senator Blackburn. General Wolters, what are the ``lessons 
learned'' from implementing the European Deterrence Initiative that 
could inform implementation of the Pacific Deterrence Initiative?
    General Wolters. EDI funding has allowed USEUCOM and the Services 
to resource key programs needed to deter Russia and support our NATO 
Allies, facilitate planning, and greatly enhance our preparedness. As 
the EDI program matured, we developed a process to repurpose and shift 
funding from contracts or otherwise challenged programs to those that 
were ``ready-to-execute''. The repurposing process requires scrutiny 
from our EDI planners, including a legal and comptroller review prior 
to being sent to the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) for 
approval. This process ensures efficient and effective use of funding. 
The OSD Office of Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation's (CAPE) 
review and oversight of the EDI program heightened its credibility 
within the department and Congress. Additionally, our direct 
coordination with the Services is important, as the majority of EDI 
procurement initiatives for prepositioned equipment sets is executed at 
the Service vice the Component level.

    59. Senator Blackburn. General Wolters, how would you characterize 
the current China-Russia security partnership in your area of 
responsibility? Please explain.
    General Wolters. Ongoing interactions between Russia and China 
suggest the emergence of a partnership of convenience to advance their 
mutual interests, rather than a true alliance such as NATO. The 
expansion of Russian and Chinese influence in the Euro-Atlantic region 
is detrimental to both United States and European interests. Moscow 
continues to sell Beijing high-end fighter aircraft and surface-to-air 
missile systems and has announced plans to develop a joint missile 
warning system despite the historical distrust between them. Russia 
remains sensitive to Chinese activities in the Arctic, Central Asia, 
and Eastern Europe. USEUCOM remains vigilant to any changes in this 
relationship and utilizes a whole-of-alliance approach to deter and 
defend the Euro-Atlantic.
                         nato security threats
    60. Senator Blackburn. General Wolters, in practice, what 
activities must NATO implement to satisfy NATO 2030's recommendation to 
``enhance the fight against terrorism as part of the hybrid and cyber 
conversation''? As necessary, please identify threat assessments, 
exercises, lessons learned, etc.
    General Wolters. NATO 2030 highlights NATO's role globally, which 
is based on working even more closely with like-minded Partners to 
defend our values in a world of increased global competition, to 
include terrorist activity in cyber and hybrid tactics. We must help 
strengthen NATO with building greater cohesion and consultation within 
NATO and among Allies. Increased information and intelligence sharing 
will enhance situational awareness and a common understanding to 
counter terror groups' malign hybrid and cyber actions. A cyber red 
team is currently integrating into exercise DEFENDER Europe 2021 to 
help strengthen our cyber defensive posture.
                         transcom cybersecurity
    61. Senator Blackburn. General Lyons, in what specific ways has the 
implementation of the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC) 
mitigated cybersecurity risks within TRANSCOM's commercial provider 
base?
    General Lyons. Per the interim DFARS case 2019 D-041 Assessing 
Contractor Implementation of Cybersecurity Requirements, DOD 
implemented a phased rollout of CMMC and the requirement for 
contractors to have a current certification for the required CMMC level 
will not start until on or after October 1, 2025.
    To reduce cybersecurity risks with our commercial partners in the 
interim, we have incorporated Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation 
Supplement (DFARS) Clause 252.204-7012, ``Safeguarding Covered Defense 
Information and Cyber Incident Reporting,'' in all Readiness 
Transportation Service Provider (TSP) contracts. The DFARS clause 
requires our Readiness TSPs to implement National Institute of 
Standards and Technology (NIST) Special Publication 800-171, 
``Protecting Controlled Unclassified Information in Nonfederal 
Information Systems and Organizations,'' to safeguard covered defense 
information processed or stored on their internal information system or 
network.
    The DFARS clause also requires each of our Readiness TSPs to 
complete an annual cybersecurity self-assessment of the NIST security 
controls. 2020, marked the third year of contractually requiring our 
Readiness TSPs to submit self-assessments. Self-reporting compliance 
has improved over the last three years, and the process continues to 
prove beneficial in giving us greater insight into our TSPs' 
cybersecurity posture. USTRANSCOM is also in the process of awarding a 
proof-of-principle contract to have a third-party assess our commercial 
partner's compliance with CMMC Level 3 security criteria. This proof-
of-principle will provide an indication of compliance, identify gaps, 
and provide an understanding of our commercial partner's cybersecurity 
posture.
    In conversations with our TSPs, we know our TSPs are aware of the 
DOD's interim rule to amend the DFARS to implement a DOD Assessment 
Methodology and CMMC framework to assess contractor implementation of 
cybersecurity requirements. Our TSPs are very cognizant of the emerging 
requirements and have demonstrated motivation to prepare for the 
compliance assessment.
                              air mobility
    62. Senator Blackburn. General Lyons, with respect to Air Mobility 
Command--specifically, inter-theater lift missions--what percentage of 
the time is TRANSCOM meeting required delivery dates (RDDs) from 
requesting units?
    General Lyons. Numbers broken out by calendar year:
    ULN = Unit Line Number
    2019 All-29,115 ULNs (74.1 percent On-time)
    2019 Deploy Only-16,715 ULNs (80.6 percent On-time)
    2019 Redeploy Only-12,400 ULNs (65.3 percent On-time)
    2020 All-28,115 ULNs (78.3 percent On-time)
    2020 Deploy Only-14,988 ULNs (81.3 percent On-time)
    2020 Redeploy Only-13,127 ULNs (74.8 percent On-time)
    2021 All-12,696 ULNs (78.2 percent On-time)
    2021 Deploy Only-6,731 ULNs (82.6 percent On-time)
    2021 Redeploy Only-5,965 ULNs (73.3 percent On-time)

    63. Senator Blackburn. General Lyons, in instances of missed RDDs, 
what are the headlining trends with respect to mission variables, such 
as weather, maintenance, and crew rest?
    General Lyons. For the one-year period beginning 1 April 2020 and 
ending 31 March 2021, 1,018 of 2,722 (37.4%) of contingency airlift 
missions delivered past the required delivery date (RDD). The top three 
drivers for these were aircraft availability (248), efficient asset 
utilization (224), and a delay based on the customer's request (177). 
Aircraft maintenance accounted for only 109 of the late missions, 
weather 36 missions, and crew rest 15 missions.

    64. Senator Blackburn. General Lyons, does the inventory and 
availability of grey-tail aircraft adequately support the present 
demand for inter-theater transportation?
    General Lyons. Yes, our grey-tail aircraft adequately support the 
present demand for inter-theater transportation. Mobility Capability 
Requirements Study (MCRS)-20 will be delivered at the end of June, 
provides extensive details on this force element when viewed through 
the lens of NDS demands.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                                 taiwan
    65. Senator Hawley. General Lyons, Admirals Davidson and Aquilino 
both warned that China might attempt a fait accompli against Taiwan 
much sooner than previously anticipated, perhaps even before the end of 
this decade. How do the logistics requirements for blunting a Chinese 
fait accompli against Taiwan differ from the logistics requirements for 
fighting and winning a protracted war against China in the Indo-
Pacific?
    General Lyons. Long, contested lines of communications and the 
tyranny of distance in the Indo-Pacific region creates dilemmas that 
will require the integration of logistics planning across all 
warfighting functions to support the joint warfight. The growth in 
demand from increasingly dispersed operations, increasingly complex and 
lethal kinetic platforms, and extended adversary anti-access/area 
denial capabilities place immediate stressors on the Joint Deployment 
and Distribution Enterprise to support forward forces immediately, as 
we rapidly build capacity to deploy a decisive force.
    With the distances involved and geography in the INDOPACOM AOR, the 
core mobility assets remain critical in both instances. Our strategic 
sea and air lift are crucial and allow us to present a sizeable Joint 
Force around the globe. Additionally, air refueling is a key enabler 
that allows this enterprise to deploy fighters and bombers rapidly as 
well as employ those combat aircraft across great distances. Intra-
theater sea and air lift is also critical to sustain and support the 
force across great distances to meet volume and time-sensitive 
requirements for cargo, passengers, and fuel.
    Both the Mobility Capability Requirements Study (MCRS)-20 and POL 
Tanker Study will be submitted to Congress at the end of June and both 
studies provide details on this challenge.

    66. Senator Hawley. General Lyons, what are the most important 
investments we need to make to ensure we have the logistics support 
required to blunt a Chinese fait accompli against Taiwan and then 
prevail in a protracted war, if necessary?
    General Lyons. Two investments come to mind: assets and access. 
With the distances involved and geography in the INDOPACOM AOR, core 
mobility assets remain critical. Our strategic sea and air lift forces 
present a sizeable and credible capability to move Joint Forces around 
the globe. We need to sustain efforts to recapitalize our sealift fleet 
to improve our readiness and capacity to project the Joint Force. 
Additionally, air refueling is a key enabler that allows this 
enterprise to deploy fighters and bombers rapidly as well as employ 
those combat aircraft across great distances. The KC-46 is another key 
investment to recapitalize the aging air refueling fleet. Even when the 
179th KC-46 is delivered, 300 KC-135s at 65 plus years of age will 
remain. Investments in air refueling will remain necessary. Enhancing 
the readiness of our key mobility platforms is crucial to ensure we 
maintain the necessary capacity to deploy and sustain the Joint Force 
around the globe when needed. In terms of access, our regional posture 
enhances the flexibility and warfighting effectiveness of USTRANSCOM 
assets. Investments in partnerships that expand access and support 
adaptive basing initiatives will remain critical for success. Overall, 
we must continue to invest in the readiness of our sealift, strategic 
airlift, and air refueling fleets.
                            china in europe
    67. Senator Hawley. General Lyons and General Wolters, how might 
Chinese investments in European infrastructure, ports, and 
telecommunications impact America's ability to move forces quickly and 
reliably across Europe?
    General Lyons. It is important to note that strategic competition 
with the PRC does not mean confrontation or conflict. The DOD seeks a 
constructive, stable, and results-oriented defense relationship with 
the PLA that helps put US-PRC relations on a path of transparency and 
non-aggression. That said, the DOD remains mindful of the PRC's overt 
challenge to the long standing values-based international order. The 
DOD monitors Chinese infrastructure investments in Europe and does not 
currently assess them to be a significant obstacle to the ability of 
the US to move forces rapidly across Europe. USTRANSCOM intentionally 
maintains many resilient paths and nodes that would enable us to work 
around areas that may be denied or disrupted for any of a wide range of 
reasons.
    General Wolters. In coordination with our regional Allies and 
Partners, United States Forces continue to execute unhindered movements 
to, from, and across Europe in support of collective security.
    We remain vigilant to the risk of non-European ownership or control 
of ports, telecommunications, and critical infrastructure. While these 
foreign investments do not currently impede U.S. and NATO operations 
and activities, if left unchecked they could pose a threat in the 
future. The U.S., in conjunction with our European Allies and Partners, 
must continue to execute an all-domain, whole-of-government, whole of 
nation and whole of alliance approach to this emerging issue.
                            russia and china
    68. Senator Hawley. General Wolters, there are concerns that the 
Russian and Chinese militaries may be growing closer in ways that 
suggest a broader and more enduring alignment between those two 
countries. How would you describe changes in Russian and Chinese 
military cooperation over the last several years?
    General Wolters. Our adversaries have increased their military 
engagements in recent years, both bilaterally and with other partners 
through multilateral partnerships--including members such as the 
Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Notably, China has participated in 
Russia's annual capstone military exercise since 2018, they have flown 
two bomber patrols they characterized as ``combined'' in the Pacific 
region, and the Nations periodically conduct naval maneuvers together. 
These events have been highly scripted and probably did not include 
combined command and control. Even with these developments, however, 
their military integration remains limited and neither Moscow nor 
Beijing currently appears interested in forming a military alliance.
      intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (isr) assets
    69. Senator Hawley. General Wolters, you stated during the hearing 
that the United States must ``communicate to our allies and partners 
the criticality of ISR and what it contributes in indications and 
warnings'' and that ``in NATO, we are having success with that.'' How 
are our European allies contributing to meeting our shared ISR 
requirements in the EUCOM AOR, and how have their contributions changed 
over the last several years?
    General Wolters. NATO Allies and Partners continue to increase and 
improve their theater ISR support to Indications and Warning in the 
USEUCOM area of responsibility (AOR). NATO invested in five Allied 
Ground Surveillance (AGS) aircraft (RQ-4 Block 40 platforms) and 
associated systems to remotely operate this aircraft and analyze the 
associated indications and warning intelligence data collected. These 
AGS aircraft are actively conducting ISR operations and integrating 
direct ISR support and coordination, specifically during focused 
collection events in the AOR. NATO Allies and Partners continue to 
increase theater airborne collection processing, exploitation, and 
dissemination capacity in support of a more federated approach to 
addressing mission requirements while also decreasing reliance on U.S. 
exploitation nodes.

 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        TUESDAY, APRIL 20, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

    UNITED STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND AND UNITED STATES SPACE COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Manchin, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, 
Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and 
Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. Today, the Committee will 
receive testimony from Admiral Charles Richard, Commander, at 
U.S. Strategic Command, or STRATCOM, and from General James 
Dickinson, Commander, at U.S. Space Command, or SPACECOM.
    I want to thank Admiral Richard and General Dickinson for 
their service to our Nation. I would also like to extend my 
thanks to the men and women serving under your commands and 
their families.
    Maintaining our nuclear deterrent or preserving our ability 
operate in space are fundamental to today's great power 
competition with Russia and China. There is a reason that we 
have asked the commanders of STRATCOM and SPACECOM to testify 
together today.
    Until 2019, Space Command was part of Strategic Command. As 
Space Command stands up as an independent command, I would like 
to understand what gaps or seams remain exposed as this 
transition moves forward and ensure these gaps are being 
addressed; in particular, General Dickinson, I would like to 
make sure that SPACECOM is fulfilling the space and ground 
functions you inherited from STRATCOM, with respect to missile 
warning and nuclear command, control, and communications. 
Ensuring we can accurately warn both, Strategic and Northern 
Commands and our senior leadership of a missile attack on the 
homeland is of the utmost priority.
    General Dickinson, I understand that you are also 
responsible for integrating and tasking both, ground and space 
sensors for better space situational awareness. In essence, 
your command has become the DOD's sensor command. I hope you 
will share your vision to integrate this myriad number of 
sensors, which range are radars on the ground and at sea, to 
sensors aboard satellites. Finally, General Dickinson, I would 
like to know how your command is standing up and how you are 
finding and retaining personnel with the specialized skill sets 
associated with the SPACECOM operations.
    Admiral Richard, your command is undergoing an intense 
period of modernization that began with the ratification of the 
new START Treaty. This will be the third modification cycle 
since 1960, as part of each leg of our triad ages out. I look 
forward to your views on modernizing the entire triad and 
implications of altering that plan, especially with respect to 
our near-peer competitors.
    In addition, I would like to know your views on the efforts 
by the National Nuclear Security Administration to recapitalize 
their infrastructure to handle uranium and plutonium. Some of 
these facilities date to the Manhattan Project and are single 
points of failure in supporting your mission. It is essential 
that we understand from you the impacts, if any, on your 
operations. Finally, Admiral Richard, we have been informed 
that STRATCOM will require a submarine warhead in twenty 
thirties to replace one of the two you have now. The 
replacement warhead is a joint program with the United Kingdom, 
as their single warhead begins to age out and it is important 
to our NATO Article V commitments. I hope you will explain this 
system to the Committee.
    Thank you, again, for appearing today and we all look 
forward to your testimony. Before I turn it over to Ranking 
Member Inhofe, I would like to note for my colleagues that 
there will be a classified briefing immediately following this 
session in SVC-217 to continue our discussion.
    Senator Inhofe, please.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I also want to welcome our witnesses and thank them for 
their service. Over the past few years, this Committee's top 
priority has been ensuring to implement the National Defense 
Strategy, which identifies competition with China and Russia as 
the central challenge to United States prosperity and security. 
I agree with that more so today than in 2018 when it was 
established.
    If we are serious about the security of our Nation, we have 
got to maintain the capabilities required to deter China and 
Russia and we need to be realistic about the level of resources 
needed to make that happen, because we have not been in the 
past. Two critical pieces of those objectives are modernizing 
our aging nuclear deterrent and improving our space capability 
in an evolving contested domain.
    Admiral Richard, and commander of the U.S. Strategic 
Command, your primary job is to ensure that our nuclear forces 
continue to deter the most severe threats to the survivability 
of our Nation and the security of our allies'. Admiral Davidson 
told us some pretty worrying things about Chinese nuclear 
expanses just last month. You have been a big supporter of 
nuclear modernization and rightly so. We have delayed critical 
investments in DOD and the NNSA for too long and now we are 
almost out of time.
    General Dickinson, as SPACECOM commander, you are 
responsible for the planning and execution of the global space 
operations and missions. In most DOD war games, the first acts 
of aggression from our adversaries occur in the space domain 
and directly impact outcomes. This makes improving our 
capability to fight and to win in space critical to deterring 
China and Russia.
    Both of you are responsible for missions with zero margin 
for failure, but I am considered that the administration's 
defense budget cuts may undermine your ability to develop those 
capabilities. It would be important for us to hear your best 
military advice as to what resources you need to accomplish 
this mission. I look forward to your testimony.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Admiral Richard, please.

STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL CHARLES A. RICHARD, USN, COMMANDER, UNITED 
                    STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND

    Admiral Richard. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished Committee Members, good morning.
    I am pleased to testify with General Dickinson today and 
appreciate the collaborative efforts our commands undertake in 
the defense of the Nation. I thank the President, Secretary of 
Defense Austin, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Milley for 
their leadership and support to the mission of strategic 
deterrence. I assure you the command is committed to work the 
priorities set forth by the secretary to defend the Nation, 
take care of our people, and succeed through teamwork.
    We succeed each and every day through the teamwork of 
150,000 men and women performing STRATCOM's missions and I will 
remind the command it is our diversity, resilience, and 
professionalism that sets us apart and makes us even stronger. 
It is truly a privilege to represent them here today.
    I also thank the Committee for its enduring support to our 
national defense and active engagement and interest in the 
command's missions.
    Strategic deterrents enables every U.S. military operation 
around the world. Every operational plan in the Department and 
every other capability we possess rests on an assumption that 
strategic deterrence and, in particular, nuclear deterrence is 
holding. If that fails, nothing else in the Department of 
Defense works as planned. STRATCOM sets the most foundational 
of operating conditions to allow the rest of the Joint Force to 
accomplish its mission.
    As a Nation, I would assert, until recently, we have not 
fully considered the implications of engaging in competition 
through crisis or possible direct-armed conflict with a 
nuclear-capable adversary in nearly 3 decades. For the first 
time in our history, the Nation is facing two nuclear-capable, 
strategic-peer adversaries at the same time, both of whom have 
to be deterred differently.
    Chinese and Russian advances are eroding our conventional 
and strategic deterrence. China, in particular, I submit, 
cannot be considered anymore, a lesser-included case in this 
context. The remarkable expansion of nuclear and strategic 
capability is evidence of their drive to be a strategic peer by 
the end of the decade. I would describe this as the strategic 
complement to the conventional capability growth that has been 
reported by INDOPACOM.
    To me, they are at some kind of inflection point and are 
rapidly expanding their strategic capabilities. This has 
happened within the last year. They are well ahead of the pace 
to double their stockpile by the end of the decade, and I would 
further submit that the size of a nation's weapons stockpile by 
itself is a very crude measure of what they can do with that 
capability.
    To fully assess the China threat it is necessary to 
consider the capability, range, accuracy of their delivery 
systems, command and control, readiness, posture, doctrine in 
training. In the very near term, China will possess a credible 
nuclear triad, rapidly expanding road-mobile capability and 
these are intercontinental ballistic missiles on trucks that 
they drive around. It is a big country. They can be hard to 
find.
    They are moving to solid-fuel intercontinental ballistic 
missiles, silo based, very responsive, compared to a liquid-
fueled one. They are deploying a strategic bomber and they 
possess now, six second-generation, Jin-class ballistic missile 
submarines and they are capable of continuous at-sea deterrent 
patrol. Developing a dedicated nuclear command and control 
capability that includes launch under warning and launch under 
attack. By these measures, China is capable of executing any 
plausible nuclear employment strategy regionally now and will 
soon be able to do so at intercontinental ranges.
    I offer for China, it is important to look at what they do, 
not what they say, and where they are going, not where they 
are. I have no choice but to view China as a significant 
strategic threat and share Secretary Austin's assessment, China 
is the pacing threat for the Nation and DOD at large.
    Russia, however, remains the pacing nuclear strategic 
threat, aggressively engaged in conventional and nuclear 
capability development and modernization, and are now roughly 
80 percent complete, while we are at zero. It is easier to 
describe what they are not modernizing, nothing, than what they 
are, which is pretty much everything, including several ``never 
before seen'' capabilities and several thousand non-treaty 
accountable weapons systems.
    They have a nuclear-armed intercontinental ballistic 
missile that has the Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle, 
Poseidon nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed underwater vehicle, 
and the Skyfall nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed cruise 
missiles, examples of asymmetric strategic weapons 
capabilities, designed to deter us and our allies, offset 
perceived conventional inferiority in an effort to terminate 
events on Russian terms.
    So, given all that, we can no longer assume the risk of a 
strategic deterrence failure and crisis or conflict is always 
low. The days of power projection in a permissive operational 
environment without regard to a possible nuclear response are 
over. This is why Secretary Austin testified during his 
confirmation, nuclear deterrence is our highest priority.
    Given that threat, the Nation requires a fully modernized 
strategic force and supporting infrastructure. Every 
presidential administration over the past 60 years has 
reaffirmed a safe, secure, effect nuclear force, most credible 
combinations of capabilities to deter strategic attack, assure 
allies. Each element has unique capabilities, but it is the 
combined elements of the triad that allow us to execute our 
assigned national strategy.
    We are at a point where ``end of life'' limitations and 
cumulative effects of underinvestment in our nuclear deterrent 
and supporting infrastructure against the expanding threat 
leave me no operational margin. The Nation simply cannot 
attempt to indefinitely life-extend leftover Cold War weapon 
systems and successfully carry out the assigned strategy. They 
are at risk of losing credibility in the eyes of our 
adversaries and if they continue to work at all, they will 
likely not be able to pace the threat that they are intended to 
deter.
    I will just end with, in particular, it is the nuclear 
weapons stockpile and supporting infrastructure I think is 
hitting the wall first. Without the recapitalization of the 
existing weapons, we risk obsolescence and we could reach a 
point where no amount of money will adequately mitigate the 
operational risks we will be facing.
    Final point. The Nation has a longstanding, flexible, 
tailored strategy with a ``well thought out'' family of 
policies, capabilities, and postures. I welcome and call for a 
strategic review, but I advise against any individual policy or 
capability decision made, absent a complete understanding of 
the overall effects on that strategy, as it could risk a 
deterrence failure, which is the underpinning of everything we 
do.
    Ladies and gentlemen, I thank you again for the opportunity 
to be here today and I look forward to your questions.
    [The statement of Admiral Richard follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Admiral Charles A. Richard
                              introduction
    United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM) is a global 
warfighting command, and as the Commander, I am privileged to lead the 
150,000 Sailors, Soldiers, Airmen, Marines, Guardians, and Civilians 
who dedicate themselves to the Department of Defense's highest priority 
mission. I thank the President, Secretary of Defense Austin, and 
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Milley for their continued leadership in 
this vital mission area. The command is focused on and committed to the 
Secretary of Defense priorities to defend the Nation, take care of our 
people, and succeed through teamwork. I also thank Congress for your 
continued support to ensure USSTRATCOM is equipped with the required 
resources necessary to achieve strategic deterrence in any situation on 
behalf of the Nation.
    USSTRATCOM enables Joint Force operations and is the combatant 
command responsible for Strategic Deterrence, Nuclear Operations, 
Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications (NC3) Enterprise 
Operations, Joint Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations, Global Strike, 
Missile Defense, Analysis and Targeting, and Missile Threat Assessment. 
Our mission is to deter strategic attack and employ forces as directed, 
to guarantee the security of the Nation and assure our allies and 
partners. The command has three priorities. First, above all else, we 
will provide strategic deterrence for the Nation and assurance of the 
same to our allies and partners. Second, if deterrence fails, we are 
prepared to deliver a decisive response, decisive in every possible 
way. Third, we will do this with a modern resilient, equipped, and 
trained combat-ready force. To execute our assigned responsibilities, 
the men and women of USSTRATCOM operate globally, as a joint force, in 
all warfighting domains, and with our allies and partners to address 
strategic challenges facing our Nation.
    As Congress is well aware, the past year's pandemic challenged us 
in ways we never expected. Within days, the command transitioned from 
approximately 30 teleworking personnel to thousands, without missing a 
beat. I am pleased to report USSTRATCOM remained, and continues to be 
fully mission capable. This is a true testament to the resilience of 
our workforce, our command and control (C2) systems, and the support 
from our base and local community.
    Peace is our profession . . . continues to be the USSTRATCOM motto. 
It serves as an acknowledgement that the Nation leads first with 
diplomacy as military force should be the last resort. The three dots 
are intentional to remind potential adversaries that if tested, the 
command enables the President to lead the Nation from a position of 
strength. Fundamental to our survival as a nation is a safe, secure, 
and effective nuclear triad; a reliable and modern nuclear command, 
control, and communications (NC3) architecture; and a responsive 
nuclear weapons infrastructure. These elements deter adversaries from 
conducting nuclear and non-nuclear strategic attacks against our 
Nation, and assure our allies and partners. As Secretary Austin 
testified, strategic deterrence, and within that nuclear deterrence, is 
the highest priority mission of the Department of Defense.
    Strategic deterrence is the foundation of our national defense 
policy and enables every U.S. military operation around the world. Any 
individual strategic policy or capability decision made absent an 
understanding of the effect on the overall strategy could potentially 
increase the risk of deterrence failure. If strategic deterrence fails, 
little else . . . no plan or capability, works as designed.
    USSTRATCOM will fully support ongoing reviews of strategic and 
nuclear policy with a goal of reducing the role of nuclear weapons in 
our defense strategy while adjusting to the operational implications of 
policy choices. Presidential and Departmental guidance defined by the 
National Defense Strategy (NDS), National Military Strategy (NMS), and 
by our nuclear policy depend on a strategic deterrent required to meet 
the challenges of the changing global security environment. This is not 
possible without stable, consistent, and on-time appropriations and 
support to program modernization by Congress. Sustainment and 
modernization of our nuclear forces, weapons complex, and requisite NC3 
capabilities has transitioned from something we should do, to something 
we must do. Based on current programmatic and acquisition timelines, if 
we find out we were wrong, decisions to divest or delay could take ten 
to fifteen years to recover and render the Nation unable to respond to 
advancing threats. Any decision to delay or defer recapitalization 
requires us to be absolutely sure, for the next 40 years, that we won't 
need that capability to deter threats, many of which we can't predict.
                               our people
    USSTRATCOM's military and civilian professionals are the driving 
force behind Strategic Deterrence. The command is committed to building 
a diverse and inclusive workforce with the needed skills to meet 
current and future security environment demands, as we pursue 
innovative ways to recruit and retain top talent. Workforce 
enhancements through internships, development and mentorship programs, 
academic partnerships, and our Women in Leadership program are just a 
few examples of ways the command attracts software, nuclear 
engineering, scientific, and strategy and policy skill sets into 
service.
    USSTRATCOM works closely with world-class universities and 
education systems, through our Academic Alliance--a partnership of over 
60 institutions. The command advocates to incorporate deterrence 
history and theory, allied perspectives, the importance of treaties and 
alliances, an understanding of capabilities, delivery systems, weapons, 
and C2 capabilities into curriculums. The aim is to enhance 
understanding of our mission and the importance of strategic deterrence 
while further developing the Nation's next generation of national 
security professionals. Together with Professional Military Education, 
this creates a strategic advantage necessary for interoperability 
across Joint and Allied forces.
    Joint Force interoperability is further enhanced through 
USSTRATCOM's joint exercises and wargames. Despite the challenges posed 
by the pandemic, the command completed over 350 events specifically 
designed to produce trained and ready forces capable of operating 
across the spectrum of conflict. Whether done virtually or in person, 
exercises and wargames are critical command enablers to sustaining 
readiness and enhancing our ability to rapidly project national 
military power globally. They are also a primary mechanism in 
strengthening relationships with allies and partners.
                     dynamic strategic environment
    Strategic Competition demands we be ready for any threat, in any 
domain, at any time. Potential adversaries are building advanced 
nuclear capabilities, fielding increasingly capable conventional 
forces, and exploiting seams below the level of armed conflict, in an 
attempt to gain strategic advantages in pursuit of their national 
objectives. China and Russia are challenging our strength through a 
wide array of activities that warrant a concerted and integrated whole-
of-government response. For the first time in our history, the Nation 
is on a trajectory to face two nuclear-capable, strategic peer 
adversaries at the same time, who must be deterred differently. We can 
no longer assume the risk of strategic deterrence failure in conflict 
will always remain low.
    This is not to say strategic competition will end in armed 
conflict; rather, in the event of conflict with a near-peer, nuclear-
armed adversary, the risk of a strategic deterrence failure increases. 
We must maximize our ability to prevent strategic deterrence failure 
and find ways to reduce the risk of miscalculation in a crisis, by 
engaging all elements of national power to effectively communicate our 
resolve to potential adversaries. The command stands ready to support 
diplomatic efforts as a tool of first resort, utilizing innovative and 
reliable ways to deter strategic threats and set favorable conditions 
to shape the global environment.
China
    Under a veil of secrecy, China continues to advance comprehensive 
military modernization programs for the People's Liberation Army (PLA), 
building a robust lethal force with capabilities spanning all domains. 
This modernization includes nuclear weapons and forces, and supports 
longstanding goals to establish regional hegemony, deny U.S. power 
projection in the Indo-Pacific region, and supplant the United States 
as the security partner of choice. While China's nuclear stockpile is 
currently smaller (but undergoing an unprecedented expansion) than 
those fielded by Russia and the United States, the size of a nation's 
weapons stockpile is a crude measure of its overall strategic 
capability. To fully assess the China threat, it is also necessary to 
consider the capability of the associated delivery system, command and 
control, readiness, posture, doctrine and training. By these measures, 
China is already capable of executing any plausible nuclear employment 
strategy within their region and will soon be able to do so at 
intercontinental ranges as well. They are no longer a ``lesser included 
case'' of the pacing nuclear threat, Russia.
    These capabilities bring into question China's stated ``No First 
Use'' policy declaration and implied minimum deterrent strategy. Behind 
a complete lack of transparency, China is rapidly improving its 
strategic nuclear capability and capacity, with rapid growth in road 
mobile production, doubling the numbers of launchers in some ICBM 
brigades, deployment of solid fuel intercontinental ballistic missile 
(ICBM) silos on a potentially large-scale, an added air leg, and are 
well ahead of the pace necessary to double their nuclear stockpile by 
the end of the decade. This is all in keeping with Chinese President Xi 
Jinping's 14th Five-Year Plan's (2021-2025) call to ``strengthen 
strategic forces'' and ``accelerate the creation of high-level 
strategic deterrence.''
    In the very near-term China will possess a credible nuclear triad, 
supported by its growing stockpile and weapon systems capable of 
multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRV). The PLA is 
developing and fielding precision strike nuclear delivery systems such 
as the dual use DF-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) and 
survivable road-mobile ICBMs with the CSS-10 mod 2 (DF-31A) class 
missile capable of striking locations within the continental United 
States. The CSS-20 (DF-41) became operational last year, and China has 
stood up at least two brigades. Enhancing the PLA Air Force's newly 
reassigned nuclear mission, the redesigned H-6N is capable of carrying 
a nuclear capable air-launched ballistic missile (ALBM) and conducting 
air-to-air refueling for greater range and flexibility. China's six, 
second-generation JIN-class ballistic missile submarines (SSBN) with 
JL-2 submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM) provide a viable sea-
based deterrent capable of maintaining continuous at-sea presence.
    While China keeps the majority of its forces in a peacetime status, 
increasing evidence suggests China has moved a portion of its nuclear 
force to a Launch on Warning (LOW) posture and are adopting a limited 
``high alert duty'' strategy. To support this, China continues to 
prioritize improved space-based strategic early warning, and command 
and control as specific nuclear force modernization goals. Their 
networked and integrated platform advancements will enable skip-echelon 
decision-making processes and greater rapid reaction. This shifting 
posture is particularly unsettling, considering the immature nature of 
Chinese strategic forces and compressed timelines needed to assess and 
frame a response, increasing the potential for error and 
miscalculation. Collectively, China's strategic nuclear modernization 
expansion raises troubling concerns and complements the conventional 
capability growth reported by INDOPACOM and other Combatant Commands.
    Their conventional and strategic initiatives across the air and 
missile defense, anti-surface, anti-submarine, cyber, and space 
increase its ability to project counter-intervention and control 
further from their mainland throughout the Indo-Pacific region. To 
deter and deny foreign regional force projection, China is developing a 
range of new ballistic missile defense technologies in support of anti-
access/area denial (A2AD) and tested a mid-course interceptor in 
February 2021. Within the last two years the PLA launched over 400 
ballistic missiles (more than the rest of the world combined for non-
wartime uses) to test and evaluate weapon system performance, and 
improve combat force effectiveness.
    China recognizes the necessity of survivable command and control 
capabilities to more robustly support joint operations, speed of 
decision making, and cyber operations in modern warfare. The PLA placed 
a high priority on modernizing joint C2, logistics, and command, 
control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance (C4ISR) systems in part to resemble Western-style joint 
C2 systems. The PLA Strategic Support Forces (SSF) are taking steps to 
combine and restructure cyber forces into reconnaissance, attack, and 
defense capabilities to better support military operations. Then, while 
Beijing insists that the Chinese military does not engage in 
cyberespionage, continued theft of intellectual property translates to 
significant wealth losses with significant strategic implications.
    My best military advice is to offer caution, observe their actions 
which speak louder than words, take steps to credibly deter armed 
conflict, and reject Chinese policies or actions that threaten the 
international rules-based order or undermine regional and global 
stability. We must remain postured to counter Chinese coercion and 
subversion, assure our regional allies and partners, and protect our 
national security interests as international law allows.
Russia
    Russia continues to seek ways to enhance and reinforce its great 
power status through actions designed to polarize and erode United 
States leadership in international affairs. It continues to pursue a 
sphere of influence over and beyond its periphery and interfere with 
regional states' sovereignty, especially in matters of military 
security and economics. Over the last decade, Russia also focused on 
national preparedness through strategic civil defense readiness 
exercises, demonstrating interoperability between civil and military 
organizations through wartime scenarios.
    Russia pursued a strategic partnership with China through bilateral 
and multi-lateral military exercises such as KAVKAZ-2020, focused 
primarily on improved military-to-military relations at the highest 
levels. Prudence dictates military planners consider and account for 
the complex threat environment, enabled by the strategic cooperation of 
these two nuclear-armed States with global military reach and shared 
multi-domain offensive capabilities.
    Russia's determined military and nuclear modernization campaign 
across its strategic triad and dual-use systems is close to completion. 
Over the last decade, Russia has recapitalized roughly 80 percent of 
its strategic nuclear forces, strengthening its overall combat 
potential with an imposing array of modernization efforts and novel 
weapons programs designed to ensure a retaliatory strike capability by 
all three triad legs. Upgrades incorporate new technologies into 
weapons systems, such as the nuclear-armed ICBM launched Avangard 
hypersonic glide vehicle. Other weapons programs, such as the Poseidon 
nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed underwater vehicle, and the Skyfall 
nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed cruise missile, threaten to redefine 
Russia's nuclear force with asymmetric strategic weapons capabilities 
never before fielded. In October 2020, Russia successfully tested its 
multi-role Tsirkon hypersonic anti-ship missile with land attack 
capability. These new capabilities are specifically designed to thwart 
ballistic missile defenses, challenge deterrence, and target our 
capabilities, increasing risk to allies, partners, and the United 
States Homeland.
    Russia's strategic force includes a broad range of weapons, many of 
which are dual use or multi-role, and can be rapidly modified to be 
nuclear capable. As many as 2,000 nuclear weapons are not captured by 
existing arms control agreements; theater and tactical nuclear weapons 
are entirely outside of any treaty framework. While the extension of 
New START provides helpful transparency and predictability for much of 
Russia's deployed strategic arsenal, a considerable level of 
uncertainty remains regarding the scope and disposition of Russia's 
nuclear arsenal, including non-deployed nuclear weapons and its novel 
systems that are not accounted for under the treaty. This is troubling 
given a robust nuclear weapons production complex capable of producing 
hundreds of warheads per year, enabling Russia to increase its overall 
nuclear stockpile--driven primarily by projected increases in 
unconstrained nuclear weapons--while our production capacity remains 
essentially non-existent. I stand ready to offer my best military 
advice in support of DOD and State Department efforts to make progress 
on follow-on arms control agreements.
    Clearly, nuclear weapons remain a critical element of Russia's 
security strategy and its willingness to contemplate first-use, serves 
as a core strategic consideration. Russia's 2020 nuclear deterrence 
policy declared it may use nuclear weapons in response to a 
conventional attack, if the state's existence is threatened. A 
determined pursuit of non-strategic nuclear capabilities indicates a 
troubling readiness to rely on these weapons in a conventional 
overmatch situation. The aim is to deter the United States and our 
allies by offsetting its conventional inferiority and attempt to 
terminate conventional conflict on terms acceptable to Russia. 
Therefore, our nuclear forces must include a sufficient range of 
capabilities and attributes such that Russia never mistakenly perceives 
any advantage from using nuclear weapons at any threshold of violence.
North Korea and Iran
    North Korea: North Korea remains a security challenge to the United 
States and our allies. It continues conducting activities that threaten 
regional stability and defy international norms. North Korea has tested 
ICBMs designed to strike the entire continental United States and has a 
large inventory of theater ballistic missiles. USSTRATCOM supports DOD 
and State Department efforts to coordinate with regional partners, 
reduce military tensions, and engage diplomatic efforts towards 
achieving the complete denuclearization of North Korea.
    Iran: Iran's policy of arming and employing proxy forces with 
advanced conventional weapons ensures it will remain a destabilizing 
force in the Middle East. Iran possesses the largest ballistic missile 
force in the region. Robust research and development continues to 
extend the range and improve performance of various ballistic missile 
types, several of which can range Israel and the Gulf countries. In 
April 2020, Iran conducted a space launch incorporating and testing 
technology interchangeable with ballistic missiles. It also continues 
to exceed low enriched uranium stockpile limits and resumed enriching 
uranium at higher than acceptable levels. Iran's actions threaten 
global commerce, security, and stability.
                strategic deterrence in the 21st century
    Deterrence fundamentals against such threats have not changed. We 
drive to deny any adversary their aim, or impose a cost greater than 
what they seek, such that the benefit of restraint outweighs the 
perceived benefit of their possible action. These deterrence 
fundamentals apply from gray zone activities through nuclear use. The 
spectrum of conflict today, however, is neither linear nor predictable. 
We must account for the possibility of conflict leading to conditions 
which could very rapidly drive an adversary to consider nuclear use as 
their least bad option.
    To avoid strategic deterrence failure we must reinstitute a 
critical forgotten lesson that deterrence operates continuously from 
peacetime, through the gray zone, worldwide, across all domains, and 
into conflict. It requires an integrated approach from the entire 
Department, across the whole-of-government, and in cooperation with 
allies and partners. USSTRATCOM works with the other Combatant 
Commands, Services, and Allies to integrate deterrence into all plans 
and operations. In 2020, USSTRATCOM executed six combined Bomber Task 
Force (BTF) deployments and included Allied participation in our Tier 1 
Globally Integrated Exercises, giving us the best opportunity to 
strengthen communications, operational relationships, and overcome 
unforeseen issues.
           safe, secure, reliable and effective nuclear force
    USSTRATCOM's requirements are based on what is needed to meet 
Presidential direction. As reaffirmed by every Presidential 
Administration over the past sixty years, a safe, secure, and effective 
nuclear force remains the most credible combination of capabilities to 
deter strategic attack. Current programs of record have been repeatedly 
shown to be the best way to meet those requirements.
    The Nation requires a fully modernized nuclear force and supporting 
infrastructure to ensure the solemn obligation to protect the security 
of the American people is upheld. Each element of our nuclear force has 
unique capabilities, but it is the combined attributes provided by each 
leg of the triad that together allow the command to execute our 
national security strategic guidance. I want to be clear, each piece of 
the triad is essential . . . but they are also complementary, 
underpinning U.S. military operations around the world.
    Every Operation Plan (OPLAN) in the Department and every capability 
assumes that strategic deterrence will hold. Therefore, we must 
recapitalize the triad to ensure the Joint Force can operate when, 
where, and as required to defend our national interests. We have 
reached a point, however, where end-of-life limitations and 
underinvestment in our strategic deterrent and supporting 
infrastructure--coupled with adversaries who are modernizing and 
fielding increasingly capable forces--leave no remaining margin for 
capability replacement. We cannot continue to life-extend our leftover 
Cold War era weapons and systems indefinitely, and successfully prevail 
in strategic competition--their credibility will be questioned. I stand 
ready to offer my best military advice to support Secretary Austin in 
accomplishing strategic and policy objectives, to ensure strategic 
reviews on sustainment and modernization are well informed of the 
impacts to strategic deterrence and stability.
                       land-based triad component
    The nation's ICBM force is and remains the most responsive leg of 
the triad. ICBM geographic dispersion presents an intractable targeting 
problem, complicating adversary strategies. For example, without United 
States ICBMs China becomes a strategic nuclear peer. These missiles are 
capable of holding a wide range of targets, to include emergent and 
time sensitive targets, at risk. They are survivable to all but a 
massive nuclear exchange. They are also the least expensive to maintain 
and possess the highest day-to-day readiness.
Requirement for Minuteman III (MM III) Sustainment
    The MM III continues to provide a highly reliable and secure 
deterrent capability. While Minuteman has successfully served our 
Nation since 1962, delaying needed modernization for the past 20 years 
resulted in aging components, asset attrition, and declining 
infrastructure requiring a comprehensive weapon system replacement.
    Air Force analysis concluded another life extension would be more 
costly than recapitalization and would not address future technical 
challenges and threats. USSTRATCOM supports ongoing sustainment 
programs necessary to keep the MM III viable and effective until its 
replacement, the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD), begins 
fielding in 2028 and reaches full operational capability in 2036.
Requirement for Ground Based Strategic Deterrent
    USSTRATCOM is confident GBSD will meet requirements, reduce 
sustainment costs, and maximize day-to-day readiness. It is the best 
approach to ensure the most responsive leg of the triad remains 
reliable and credible in response to the evolving strategic 
environment. During a recent visit to the GBSD Program Office, I was 
impressed with the Air Force's pursuit of innovative development 
approaches to deploy GBSD on time, as it remains a USSTRATCOM priority.
                       air-based triad component
    Bombers are among the most flexible, visible, and versatile leg of 
our Nation's delivery platforms. Bombers offer both nuclear and 
conventional deterrence and employment options, enhancing force 
availability and execution. As demonstrated by successful BTF missions, 
this stabilizing capability provides a wide variety of deterrence 
options to the President, signals unwavering resolve to our 
adversaries, and assures the Nation's allies and partners.
    Over the past year, USSTRATCOM utilized BTF missions as the iconic 
example of Dynamic Force Employment. In doing so, we dramatically 
increased the operational readiness of the crews, improved integration 
with the Joint Force, Allies and partners, practiced procedures for 
nuclear weapons and supporting infrastructure employment, and regularly 
exercised our NC3 enterprise. Full funding for these strategic 
aircraft, and associated weapons and communications systems is 
imperative, as many approach or are beyond their planned service life.
Requirement for B-52 and B-2 Sustainment
    B52: The B-52H is a 60-year-old platform, projected to remain in 
service for another three decades. To address both maintenance and 
operational challenges, it must undergo critical modernization upgrades 
in response to evolving threats. Its 1960s-era TF-33 engines are 
scheduled for upgrade through the Commercial Engine Replacement Program 
(CERP), enabling longer unrefueled range while eliminating parts 
obsolescence issues plaguing the current engines. The B-52 Radar 
Modernization Program (RMP) will replace its increasingly inoperative, 
legacy radar with a digital phased array system to allow continued 
operations in GPS denied environments. Modernized NC3 systems are also 
critical to B-52 operations to ensure communications continuity. Both 
RMP and NC3 upgrades require continued support and funding to remain on 
schedule.
    B-2: The B-2 provides unmatched capability as the only heavy-
payload, penetrating stealth bomber in the world able to hold at risk 
heavily defended, hard, and deeply buried targets. These unique 
attributes require the execution of planned sustainment programs to 
ensure survivability, reliability, and mission effectiveness until the 
B-21 is fielded. Ongoing sustainment activities include planned 
communication upgrades and low-observable maintenance. In particular, 
the Air Force must accelerate integration with advanced enabling 
capabilities to support the B-2 in denied environments.
Requirement for B-21
    The B-21 Raider will be the future bomber force. When fielded, the 
B-21 will provide warfighters with increased survivability and 
flexibility to attack high-value strategic targets worldwide. The 
Raider will deliver both nuclear and conventional weapons in support of 
national objectives. It is critical this major recapitalization effort 
remains on schedule and on budget to prevent operational shortfalls 
within the bomber force structure.
Long Range Standoff (LRSO) and B61-12
    The air-delivered nuclear weapon portfolio enables deterrence of 
strategic attack via our bomber force. Currently composed of the Air 
Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM), the B83 gravity bomb, and the B61 
family of weapons, this portfolio provides both standoff and direct 
attack munitions to meet operational requirements. Continued monitoring 
and stockpile surveillance is necessary to ensure these weapons remain 
reliable until replaced.
    LRSO: The LRSO missile will replace ALCM as the Nation's only air-
delivered nuclear cruise missile. I want to be clear, this capability 
must be protected as it is vital to USSTRATCOM's ability meet mission 
requirements. I view LRSO as the most cost-effective approach to ensure 
a credible and effective triad. It offers the best opportunity to hedge 
against operational risks in the event other triad modernization 
efforts are delayed. It will penetrate and survive against advanced air 
defense systems to which its predecessor, the ALCM, is losing ground. 
When fielded it will outpace threat technologies, enhance deterrence 
and assurance, and achieve a wide array of targeting objectives for the 
foreseeable future. LRSO allows a single bomber to cover larger 
geographic areas which would otherwise require additional B-21 bombers, 
KC-46 tankers, B61 gravity bombs, and decades of supporting 
infrastructure. Eliminating this critical capability would require 
additional land and sea based ballistic missiles to hold required 
targets at risk. A calculated yet rapid transition from ALCM to LRSO is 
planned to optimize deterrence, service life, and the capabilities of 
both weapons.
Tanker Requirements
    All bomber missions require a robust and reliable tanker force. The 
KC-46 is planned to replace a portion of the aging KC-135 fleet in the 
coming years. Despite fielding delays USSTRATCOM strongly supports 
ongoing Air Force efforts to correct and mitigate manufacturing and 
technical deficiencies, and efforts to modernize and recapitalize the 
entire tanker force in response to mission needs.
                       sea-based triad component
    The nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) is the 
Nation's most survivable and enduring nuclear strike platform. The SSBN 
contributes to deterrence and assurance messaging through partial or 
full generation of our fleet. With the intercontinental range Trident 
II D5 missile, our SSBNs patrol the world's oceans virtually 
undetected, providing an assured response capability in any scenario. 
This assured second-strike capability address deterrence gaps in ways 
unique from other legs of the triad. When paired with its 
survivability, this crucial capability gives the President significant 
latitude for response options.
Requirement for Columbia-class SSBN
    The Ohio-class SSBN cannot be further extended and will begin 
retiring from service in just six years. This submarine class has 
already been extended to an unprecedented 42 years (no individual U.S. 
Navy submarine has been in service longer than 37 years) and will 
continue to face sustainment and readiness challenges until it is 
replaced by the Columbia-class SSBNs. While the command could use more, 
procurement analysis determined at least 12 Columbia-class SSBNs are 
absolutely required. This minimum capability allows USSTRATCOM to meet 
our at-sea requirement during the most limiting maintenance intensive 
times throughout its service life. On-time delivery of the Columbia-
class SSBN remains the Navy's number one shipbuilding priority.
Requirement for Trident Sustainment and Modernization
    Given the importance of an uninterrupted sea-based strategic 
deterrent, investment in the future SSBN Strategic Weapon System (SWS) 
is vital. The Trident II D5 weapon system has been life extended (D5LE) 
to support the remaining years of the Ohio-class SSBN and enable 
deployment on the first Columbia-class hulls. A second D5 life 
extension (D5LE2) ensures continued sea-based strategic deterrence 
through the 2080s. D5LE2 will utilize reliable high performing design 
elements and components from the first life extension, to mitigate cost 
and technical risks.
SLCM-N
    To enhance flexibility and diversity of our nuclear forces, 
USSTRATCOM supported the reintroduction of a modern nuclear sea-
launched cruise missile (SLCM-N) to address regional deterrence 
challenges from Russian and Chinese nuclear capability advancements. 
The SLCM-N complements the low-yield SLBM to provide assurance to our 
allies through tailored response options in vast operating areas where 
forward basing may not be possible. Limited and graduated United States 
response options, such as SLCM-N and low-yield SLBM, provide a more 
credible deterrent to limited attack against the United States and our 
Allies and partners than relying primarily on the threat of large-scale 
nuclear responses. Without this capability adversaries may perceive an 
advantage at lower levels of conflict that may encourage limited 
nuclear use. An analysis of alternatives (AOA) is underway for SLCM-N. 
I anticipate that this AOA will inform discussions in the context of an 
anticipated new posture review.
Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS)
    To ensure the viability of our current and future SSBNs, it is 
imperative to address security threats in the undersea domain. 
Advancement in Russian submarine stealth and detection necessitates 
continued Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS) 
recapitalization efforts. This capability is vital to maintaining 
advantages in the undersea domain, ensure survivability of our sea-
based strategic deterrent, and protection of the homeland.
           nuclear command, control, and communications (nc3)
    NC3 is the critical link required to provide assured communications 
between the President and the forces. In 2018, the Secretary of Defense 
consolidated and delegated lead NC3 responsibility to the commander, 
USSTRATCOM. As the NC3 Enterprise Lead, I execute increased authority 
for operations, requirements, systems engineering, and integration 
oversight through the NC3 Enterprise Center (NEC). The NEC, operating 
as a separate but aligned organization, oversees and manages NC3 to 
ensure mission readiness through data-driven, risk-informed operations, 
while propelling accelerated development and delivery of a threat-
informed ``next generation'' NC3 enterprise.
    Substantial progress has been made in the two years following 
designation, in what has been a team effort across the entire 
Department. Specifically, the NEC improved the ability to ensure NC3 
supports the Nation's Nuclear Command and Control (NC2) at any time, by 
improving operational reporting and building a culture of readiness. 
The team laid the groundwork for the future enterprise by directing 
investments in NC3 programs and cyber defense, creating an engineering 
framework for designing and testing new architectures, engaging 
industry on best practices and technology, and advancing a broad 
intelligence community focus.
    The enterprise focus for the coming year remains on sustaining 
readiness while pursuing the next generation of NC3 by capitalizing on 
integrating concepts, revolutionary changes in technology, innovative 
practices, and cyber resilient and protected capabilities.
Strategy to Modernize NC3
    The NEC is developing the next generation NC3 system by executing a 
multi-pronged strategy approach, organized by four vectors. The first 
focuses on programs of record encompassing budget and acquisition 
lifecycle processes to deliver, modernize, and sustain future core 
capabilities. The second assesses demonstrations, experiments, and 
tests aimed at enhancing discovery and development of innovative 
technology approaches, to transform existing NC3 programs and 
operations. The third reviews and revises policies, postures, Tactics, 
Techniques and Procedures (TTPs) to streamline enterprise guidance and 
efficiently achieve operational outcomes. The fourth expands the use of 
critical technology enablers such as artificial intelligence, digital 
engineering, and modeling and simulation.
    It is important to understand NC3 modernization is not a product or 
a ``thing'' with a long service life like a delivery platform or 
warhead--rather it is a process of rapid continuous, incremental 
network capability improvements. The first evolution is referred to as 
``NC3 Next Generation Increment 1'' and represents currently funded 
programs of record. This first increment improves our posture in space, 
improves hardness to emerging cyber and cryptographic threats, shifts 
our dependency on unsustainable legacy systems, and increases 
resilience by enabling dynamically reconfigurable architecture.
Survivable NC3 Legacy Modernization
    USSTRATCOM and the NEC are aligned with the Services to modernize 
our survivable legacy NC3 systems integrated with our aging airborne C2 
platforms such as the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center (NAOC) 
and E-6B Airborne Command Post (LOOKING GLASS)/Take Charge and Move Out 
(TACAMO) aircraft. Other efforts include our space-based protected 
satellite communication (SATCOM) capabilities such as Advanced 
Extremely High Frequency (AEHF) that provides survivable communications 
for Presidential voice conferencing and nuclear force direction.
    Upgrading Very Low Frequency (VLF) and Low Frequency (LF) 
survivable communications is also necessary to provide extended range, 
greater protection, and more rapid transmission times in response to 
emerging adversarial threats. Current efforts seek to modernize and 
transform traditional VLF/LF systems to state-of-the-art capabilities 
which are interoperable across Service lines and infuse improved 
protection features for tactical and strategic applications. The 
challenge is rapidly incorporating VLF/LF architecture enhancements to 
ensure robust and layered communication services from the President to 
fielded forces during all phases of conflict.
NC3 Cybersecurity
    I want to be clear, I am confident in today's NC3 enterprise 
cybersecurity posture and resilience. However, as recent events 
demonstrate, the adversary continues to seek new avenues of attack on 
our Nation's critical infrastructure. USSTRATCOM is aligned with 
USCYBERCOM, USSPACECOM, NSA, and the Service components to respond to 
and operate through adverse cyber conditions. We are taking actions to 
enhance cybersecurity resilience for systems under development by 
adopting advanced technologies and best practices, and designing in 
cyber protections from the start. This forward facing cyber protection 
approach enables persistent defense throughout the lifecycle of these 
systems.
    Cybersecurity must be a prioritized investment to ensure ongoing 
modernization initiatives remain operationally relevant. When cyber 
protections are complemented with dedicated enterprise-level sensing 
and monitoring capabilities, they provide a holistic cybersecurity 
posture enabling timely, data-driven responses to emerging threats.
             nuclear weapons and supporting infrastructure
    I look forward to working with the Department of Energy (DOE) and 
National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) to ensure our weapons 
complex and supporting infrastructure remains viable into the future. 
Although safe, secure, reliable, and effective today the nuclear 
weapons stockpile and supporting infrastructure are rapidly aging into 
obsolescence. Today the majority of our weapons exceed or will soon 
reach their planned retirement dates. Projected modernization efforts 
provide a path to maintain a reliable and effective force, but are not 
expected to complete until well into the 2040s. Failure to execute 
these programs will continue to transfer programmatic risk to the DOD 
as operational risk to fielded forces, adding to the risk the Nation 
already faces. If this trend is not reversed, I am concerned the 
command will be unable to meet national-level policy objectives.
Infrastructure Improvements
    Stockpile modernization depends on the Nuclear Security Enterprise 
(NSE) infrastructure. Annual budget deliberations increasingly elevate 
concerns about the ability of the NNSA to meet the Nation's nuclear 
force requirements. After the closure of the Rocky Flats Plutonium pit 
fabrication facility in the early 1990s, the Nation no longer had the 
capability to produce key components, turning instead to limited 
warhead refurbishments to sustain the stockpile. As a result, component 
and materials manufacturing needed to produce new nuclear weapons 
effectively stopped and much of the infrastructure atrophied. Then, 
shifting budget priorities over the past 30 years delayed needed 
weapons and infrastructure modernization programs, contributing to 
erosion of critical nuclear force capabilities and capacities. Today's 
NSE infrastructure, which the command relies on to sustain strategic 
deterrence, continues to decline and requires investments for 
sustainment and immediate modernization. Facility condition, loss of 
key capabilities, and constrained capacities also limit the NNSA's 
timely response to unforeseen technical, geopolitical, programmatic, or 
operational developments. As such, the NNSA is now challenged to 
simultaneously complete one limited refurbishment (B61-12 LEP) and one 
maintenance activity (W88 Alteration). This is concerning as 
recapitalizing the remaining force will require the capacity to 
concurrently execute up to four modernization programs to meet 
operational requirements.
    Progress has been made with close NNSA collaboration and budget 
transparency, but much of the damage to the infrastructure and 
personnel has already been done. As a result, many of the modernization 
and sustainment efforts (which typically require 10-15 years to 
execute) have zero remaining schedule margin and some are already late-
to-need. If the Nation does not continue to address these concerns, no 
amount of money will be able to adequately mitigate operational risks 
associated with key stockpile and infrastructure capability losses. 
Long lead times needed to field modern replacement infrastructure 
require continued investments in future and enduring facilities and 
capabilities.
    Today's nuclear complex relies on single production points and 
vendor sources, putting at risk our plutonium and uranium processing, 
high explosives manufacturing, and production of radiation hardened 
electronics. This provides few to no alternatives in the event of an 
unplanned production facility or vendor shutdown. In such an event, 
recovery of those production efforts could take many years.
    Plutonium pit production is the biggest stockpile modernization 
issue--pits have not been produced at scale since Rocky Flats ceased 
production in 1989. As a point of comparison, our adversaries produce 
new pits in modern facilities at a rate many times greater than 80 per 
year; while most of our stockpile depends on pits that are, on average, 
over 50 years old and well past their design life. Accurately 
predicting aging plutonium performance with today's facilities and 
modeling capabilities is limited at best. We cannot study our way out 
of this problem. If we fail to recapitalize plutonium pit production 
now, we risk catastrophic failures given an infrastructure incapable of 
responding in a timely manner. Bottom line, re-establishing plutonium 
pit production is a ``must do'' and is foundational to stockpile 
modernization.
    Additionally, while uranium component processing limitations are 
being remedied by the Uranium Processing Facility (UPF) project, we 
must also address facilities needed for manufacturing uranium 
components and radiation cases, producing lithium, and manufacturing 
trusted non-nuclear components.
Updated Stockpile Strategy
    I applaud NNSA's initiatives to execute programs of record and W76 
modification efforts. Their investment in advanced diagnostics, and key 
research and development activities reduce operational risks resulting 
from technical issues. Most warheads in today's stockpile are now 
scheduled to remain in service well beyond original design lives, 
thanks to engineering feats, ingenuity, and NNSA stewardship.
    USSTRATCOM appreciates Congressional actions to fund NNSA's Fiscal 
Year 2021 Stockpile Management and Production Modernization programs 
(fully funding B61-12 life extension, W88 alteration, W80-4 life 
extension, W87-1 modernization, and W93 development). I specifically 
want to emphasize the importance of the W93 warhead modernization 
program. While the command could use it earlier, the W93 is a ``just-
in-time'' development program to mitigate risk to the triad's sea leg. 
USSTRATCOM identified operational requirements including a modern 
warhead with reduced mass properties that improves operational 
flexibility and enables more efficient loading on Columbia with fewer 
numbers of missile tubes. Currently fielded SLBM warheads will begin to 
simultaneously age-out in the late 2030s, putting the DOD and NNSA in a 
position of having to modernize the entire SLBM warhead stockpile at 
the same time. To avoid this convergence, starting the W93 program now 
is key to maintaining our sea leg capabilities. It is also vital to our 
long-standing cooperative relationship with the United Kingdom.
                  nuclear weapons safety and security
MH-139A Helicopter
    I appreciate Air Force efforts to deliver the MH-139A Grey Wolf. 
With support from Congress, the Air Force is poised to replace the 
existing UH-1N helicopter fleet with improved speed, range, endurance, 
and payload capabilities to ensure safe convoy escort and Emergency 
Security Response to the ICBM force.
Counter-unmanned Aircraft System
    Rapid proliferation and growing technological sophistication of 
small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) are an increasing threat to the 
Nation's nuclear enterprise. Technology trends easily transform sUAS 
into increasingly capable weapons in the hands of state and non-state 
actors, and criminals with hostile intent. The Department continues to 
field counter-sUAS capabilities and are refining tactics, techniques, 
and procedures to address this developing threat.
                             global strike
    Hypersonic weapons show promise to be the conventional complement 
the nuclear force needs to continue deterring adversaries and offers an 
opportunity to take further steps to reduce the number of nuclear 
weapons in our national security strategy. Developing and fielding 
hypersonic weapons has long been a USSTRATCOM requirement and a 
Department priority.
    Conventional hypersonic weapons will fill an important role by 
providing options to hold high-value, time-sensitive and other targets 
at risk without crossing the nuclear threshold. They will enable 
responsive long-range, conventional strike options against distant and 
defended threats when other forces are unavailable, denied access, or 
not preferred.
    Programs such as the Army Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW), Navy 
Conventional Prompt Strike (CPS), the Air Force Air-launched Rapid 
Response Weapon (ARRW), and the complementary intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) field a family of hypersonic 
weapon systems in the early-to-mid 2020s. I am pleased with the 
progress to field a capability in the near-term and encourage continued 
commitment to accelerate production and fielding.
    USSTRATCOM is prepared to command and control conventional 
hypersonic weapons immediately at initial operational capability. We 
will leverage existing planning organizations to integrate and 
synchronize hypersonic capabilities with other joint fires across all 
domains. Maturing concepts of operation, mission planning, and other 
system enablers are underway to ensure this transformational 
warfighting capability supports the NDS.
                            missile defense
    Missile defense endures as a critical component for comprehensive 
strategic and tailored regional deterrence. USSTRATCOM executes its 
responsibilities for coordinating global missile defense planning and 
operations support, including advocacy for capabilities and 
enhancements, and joint training and education in coordination with 
other Combatant Commands, Services, and Agencies. While current 
capabilities provide defense of the homeland against a rogue ballistic 
missile threat, a concerted effort and commitment is required to expand 
and improve existing capabilities for both homeland and regional 
missile defense. Potential adversaries continue to improve threat 
system capabilities and capacities, blurring missile defense operations 
across traditional regional boundaries. Mitigating trans-regional 
threats with increased range and lethality requires more than just 
active missile defense. Navigating this environment requires a broad 
approach and renewed emphasis on leveraging opportunities to negate 
missile threats prior to launch, during all phases of flight, and after 
impact.
    Challenges remain in the Department's efforts to integrate limited 
defense resources and architectures for allied and partner 
interoperability. These critical assets protect against missile attacks 
on deployed U.S. Forces, preserve freedom of action by countering 
adversary anti-access/area denial tactics, and assists allies and 
partners to better defend themselves through traditional and asymmetric 
means. USSTRATCOM's NIMBLE TITAN wargame with participants from 24 
countries and three international organizations, continues to advance 
multinational collaboration and operational integration efforts aimed 
at enhancing deterrence and defense concepts against potential attack.
             new missile warning framework and requirements
    Two essential elements of strategic deterrence are detection (early 
warning of ballistic and advanced missile threats) and integrated 
global planning. We are challenged to fully achieve these with current 
or planned terrestrial-based radar architectures alone due to 
geographic constraints and characteristics of future missile threats. 
Advanced Russian platforms challenge our sensor networks and are 
designed to operate without regard for the boundaries between United 
States combatant command areas of responsibilities. Therefore, it is 
essential to move beyond regional approaches to addressing adversaries 
and challenges that are increasingly global in nature.
    The command in coordination with USSPACECOM, USNORTHCOM, and the 
Services continues to examine, evolve, and exploit advanced technical 
and operational concepts, and break down institutional barriers 
inhibiting information flow. The command is focused on increasing 
decision space through a resilient joint all-domain architecture 
capable of correlating data from any sensor and using the best C2 
system to employ the best-positioned shooter. This highly distributed 
and resilient architecture leveraging future space-based sensors, may 
be able to provide end-to-end detection, tracking, and discrimination 
of hypersonic glide vehicle, cruise and ballistic missile threats 
globally.
Layered Missile Defense
    I applaud Congress's continued support for active defense 
capabilities to pace the threat and exploration of new capabilities 
like the Hypersonic Glide Phase Interceptor, high energy laser, and 
other directed energy technologies. As the Department pursues 
development of complements to existing Ground-based interceptor (GBI) 
capabilities, work continues using novel, cost effective options to 
counter the ICBM threat. The intercept of an ICBM by an Aegis ship 
utilizing the SM-3 Blk IIA missile in November 2020 highlights one 
opportunity to recapitalize existing technology. Additional examples 
include integrating existing sensors for tracking ballistic, 
hypersonic, unmanned aerial systems, and cruise missile threats.
Missile Defense Review--Progress
    In accordance with the 2019 Missile Defense Review (MDR) the 
Department updated policies, responsibilities, and procedures for 
missile defense research, development, test and evaluation, 
procurement, operations, and sustainment. USSTRATCOM, working with the 
community of interest re-wrote the Warfighter Involvement Process (WIP) 
to incorporate MDR findings. Revisions align with the Department's 
budget process to maximize warfighter input to capability development 
and acquisitions, and seek timely delivery of missile defense 
capabilities. USSTRATCOM will continue to advocate for missile defense 
requirements through capability and utility assessments, and ensure 
operational tests and evaluations meet warfighter demands.
Joint Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations
    USSTRATCOM's responsibility for Joint Electromagnetic Spectrum 
Operations (JEMSO) includes advocacy for electromagnetic warfare 
capabilities, contingency support, and joint planning and training for 
electromagnetic spectrum (EMS) operations. The Spectrum is an infinite 
battleground enabling all warfighting domains and functions. 
Adversaries like China and Russia have observed our use of and 
dependence on the EMS, and seek to challenge us by investing heavily in 
counter radar, navigation, communications, and data link technologies 
to erode our advantages. To counter this threat, the United States must 
regain technological advantages for our EMS systems and execute 
capabilities through dedicated organizational elements.
    USSTRATCOM coordinated with the Secretary of Defense's 
Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations (EMSO) Cross Functional Team, in 
developing the EMS Superiority Strategy Implementation Plan to 
``Establish Effective EMS Governance.'' We are actively engaged to 
strengthen support and build an EMSO proponent organization for the 
Department. Efforts include establishing JEMSO Cells at Combatant 
Commands, creating an electromagnetic battle management (EMBM) system, 
and integrating fused data into the EMBM through a DOD enterprise 
database. The Joint Electromagnetic Warfare Center (JEWC) at USSTRATCOM 
established the first-ever Information Analysis and Fusion capability 
necessary to provide specific data for combatant command operational 
JEMSO cells to conduct battle management in spectrum operations. 
Continued Congressional support and sustained investments are critical 
to these initiatives.
                               conclusion
    As a global warfighting command, USSTRATCOM integrates strategy and 
capabilities to achieve strategic deterrence in today's dynamic threat 
environment. The command will continue to pursue success using globally 
integrated plans and operations within the Department, the whole-of-
government, and with our allies and partners. I look forward to working 
with Secretary Austin to continue to maintain a safe, secure and 
reliable nuclear force into the future, and to ensure we strengthen 
strategic stability.
    USSTRATCOM is home to the majority of the Department's Strategic 
Deterrence workforce intellectual capital. These professionals are 
dedicated to our national defense and we must continue to foster and 
grow this resource. With continued Congressional support and stable 
funding, USSTRATCOM will continue pacing the growing threats and 
develop the future force needed to execute the Department's top 
priority mission.
    Efforts to sustain and modernize deterrent forces must continue. 
Our strategic forces underpin every military operation around the 
world, and we cannot afford to delay given the increasing threats 
facing our Nation. Today, we are at a tipping point where the cost of 
modernizing our strategic forces is negligible compared to the cost we 
will likely incur if our triad and supporting infrastructure are 
allowed to age-out completely. Strategic force modernization is an 
every-other-generation responsibility . . . today is our generation's 
turn to lead.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral Richard.
    General Dickinson, please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL JAMES H. DICKINSON, USA, COMMANDER, UNITED 
                      STATES SPACE COMMAND

    General Dickinson. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and 
thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and Members of 
the Senate Armed Services Committee for the chance to speak 
with you today.
    In describing the accomplishments of the Nation's newest 
combatant command, I am pleased today to represent the nearly 
18,000 military, civilian, and contractor personnel supporting 
the United States Space Command's mission. In the United States 
Space Command, our power is absolutely our people. Having just 
finished the command's celebration of the Women's History 
Month, we proudly recognize our many female warfighters, one of 
whom came to us from the 16th Space Control Squadron, where she 
performed remarkably in our space superiority mission set. 
Another, a Navy aviator, now part of the Navy's new space 
cadre, built U.S. Space Command's analytic foundation for the 
development of our space architecture enterprise. A third 
established the joint fires element for our Joint Task Force-
Space Defense, to integrate and synchronize space efforts for 
combatant commanders, and there are countless others that I 
could go on and on and on about this morning, but I will not, 
because of time.
    Our diverse force will continue balancing combat readiness 
in preparing for the future. We will provide our people a 
working environment and culture that allows them to thrive 
while reaching their full potential. Our ideals reflect those 
of our oath to the Constitution of the United States and we 
remain committed to providing for the common defense, promoting 
the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for 
ourselves and our posterity.
    Today, I will offer you some insights into our plans for 
the future, which are aligned with the President's new Interim 
National Strategic Guidance. When I took command of U.S. Space 
Command last August, we were still filling out the structures 
of our new warfighting combatant command for space.
    As I outlined in my written statement, we have made 
tremendous progress since then, to include further development 
of our two functional component commands and establishment of 
all of our service component commands, significantly advancing 
warfighting capability in space domain, all while continuing to 
support the Joint Force with exquisite space capabilities.
    While largely focused from the geosynchronous build to the 
last tactical mile on Earth, we are expanding our focus to keep 
pace with our Nation's push into the cislunar region and to the 
Moon and Mars and beyond.
    China's space enterprise continues to mature rapidly, 
presenting a pacing challenge for us. They invest heavily in 
space with more than 400 satellites on orbit today. China is 
building military-space capabilities rapidly, including sensing 
and communications systems and numerous anti-satellite weapons, 
all the while, China continues to maintain their public stance 
against the weaponization of space.
    Similarly concerning, Russia's published military doctrine 
calls for the employment of weapons to hold United States and 
allied space assets at risk. For example, similar to the 
Russian space-based weapons test in 2017, Russia recently 
conducted another test of a space-based anti-satellite weapon. 
Additionally, the December 2020 test of a direct-assent anti-
satellite weapon demonstrates that even as Russia aims restrict 
the capabilities of the United States, they clearly have no 
intention of halting their own ground-based or on-orbit 
counter-space weapons systems. Russia currently has close to 
200 satellites on orbit and could double that by 2030.
    In addition to this activity, on the part of our 
competitors, we are observing exponential growth in the 
commercialization of space. We currently track a challenging 
32,000 objects in space. Nearly 7,000 of those objects are 
active or retired satellite payloads. Among the roughly 3,500 
active satellites, the three largest single constellations 
belong to the commercial companies: SpaceX's constellation for 
broadband internet capabilities, Planet Labs' Earth-imaging 
constellation, and Spire Global's space-to-cloud data analytics 
constellation.
    Overlaying this new global security landscape on the 
already complex operating environment of space demands a new 
level of awareness on our part. Given that the President's 
Interim National Security Strategic Guidance calls for, and I 
quote, ensuring the safety, stability, and security of outer-
space capabilities, USSPACECOM is focused on my number-one 
priority of enhancing existing and developing new space-
awareness capabilities. Space domain awareness gives us the 
insight into activity throughout the space domain, including 
potential adversary activities, but perhaps more importantly, 
insight into the intent of those potential adversaries, too. 
Space domain awareness provides decision-quality information to 
combatant commanders and the national command authorities to 
ensure we can provide viable military options with the 
appropriate decision space throughout the spectrum of 
operations from deterrence to warfighting.
    In order to most effectively accomplish our assigned 
missions, U.S. Space Command has assessed our current 
capabilities and developed the requirements necessary to expand 
that capability where needed to meet our mission imperatives. 
We have passed those requirements along to the services and the 
Department of Defense, in general. Our intent is to build the 
appropriate space operational architecture designed to achieve 
full operational capability, backed by a team of warfighters, 
who can outthink and outmaneuver our adversaries.
    While engaging daily in a competitive environment, our 
primary goal remains to deter a conflict that begins in or 
extends into space. So, with the help of this Committee and all 
of Congress, we will achieve that ultimate objective and ensure 
that the United States and our allies will never have a day 
without space.
    Thank you very much this morning. I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The statement of General Dickinson follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General James H. Dickinson
                              introduction
    The establishment of United States Space Command (USSPACECOM) as 
the Combatant Command solely focused on protecting and defending U.S. 
space operations and the American way of life demonstrates the priority 
America places on space. Our mission is to assure the delivery of 
space-based services to the Nation, our allies and global security 
partners, and warfighting superiority for conflict extending to space. 
An incredibly talented Joint Force and interagency team operating 
around the world accomplishes this unique and critical task. I am 
honored and thankful to the President, Secretary of Defense, and the 
Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff for entrusting me with leading this 
team of warfighters. I am also thankful for the unwavering support of 
Congress in providing the USSPACECOM team with the necessary resources 
for this critical mission.
    President Biden described his priorities in the March 2021 Interim 
National Security Strategic Guidance, including defending the 
underlying sources of American strength and promoting a favorable 
distribution of power to deter adversaries. I have outlined my key 
tasks to support the Interim National Security Strategic Guidance and 
accomplish the USSPACECOM mission in my Commander's Strategic Vision. 
As always, underpinning this vision is our focus on caring for our most 
important asset--our people and their families. Our command attracts 
the best and brightest across the Department of Defense, intelligence 
community, and civil society, resulting in a dynamic and diverse team 
of space professionals. In fact, during International Women's month we 
featured many of the amazing women of USSPACECOM--both military and 
civilian, including operations leaders, division chiefs, senior 
enlisted leaders, and many other key roles. The diversity in our ranks 
is one of our greatest strengths. Our people will advance our critical 
mission through innovative approaches to accomplishing those key tasks, 
which include: (1) understanding our competition; (2) building the 
command to compete and win; (3) maintaining key relationships; (4) 
maintaining digital superiority; and (5) integrating commercial and 
interagency organizations. With our focus on these priorities, we will 
achieve our end state goal of a team of warfighters who outthink and 
outmaneuver our adversaries and enemies, and if necessary, win through 
space combat power--so that there is never a day without space.
 the u.s. must respond to a rapidly changing space security environment
    The American way of life depends on reliable access to the space-
based capabilities that provide the foundation of our economic security 
and enable our Joint Force to conduct sustained military operations in 
all domains. Every lever of national power in the new Joint Doctrine 
Note 1--18 ``MIDFIELD'' model--Military, Informational, Diplomatic, 
Financial, Intelligence, Economic, Law, and Development--is reliant 
upon space-based capabilities. Every element of our Joint Warfighting 
Concept as executed through Joint, All-Domain Operations is dependent 
on space-based capabilities. The ever-increasing challenge posed by 
adversaries against those capabilities led to the necessary creation of 
USSPACECOM and the United States Space Force. We must continue to grow 
the capabilities of these new organizations charged with protecting and 
defending our interests in space.
    This extensive reliance on space creates potential vulnerabilities 
that competitors and adversaries actively seek to exploit. These 
adversaries and competitors are increasing their capabilities in space 
by developing and demonstrating counter-space systems, and, similar to 
what we have seen in the other domains, by engaging in deliberately 
provocative behavior to advance their plans to gain control of space. 
To safeguard our national interests at home and abroad and to support a 
rules-based international order, the U.S., along with our allies and 
partners, must promote and protect the peaceful and responsible use of 
space.
                     understanding our competition
    The number one priority for the Command is to understand our 
competition, which relies on a deep understanding of the space 
environment. To achieve this, we prioritize space domain awareness, 
which encompasses tracking, identifying, and characterizing objects in 
space in a way that enables real-time understanding of potentially 
threatening activities. Through this perception of activities that 
affect our domain, we can better protect and defend our assets when 
there may be only minutes to act. This is our highest priority and we 
need Congress's continued support to achieve comprehensive space domain 
awareness.
 china desires to use space to supplant the united states as a global 
                      economic and military leader
    Over the past two decades, an increasingly assertive China and a 
resurgent Russia worked to develop advanced technologies to erode core 
United States military advantages, such as power projection and rapid, 
global, space-enabled precision fires. Their militaries actively 
integrate advanced space and counterspace technologies into multi-
domain warfighting strategies to challenge U.S. regional superiority, 
position themselves as space powers, and create improved balance of 
power dynamics in their near abroad. Both countries reorganized their 
militaries to develop deeper competency in technical military fields 
such as electronic warfare, cyberspace and space operations. China and 
Russia each weaponized space to deter and counter United States and 
allied intervention and military effectiveness in future conflicts. 
Today, space is a warfighting domain not because we desired it to be; 
it is a warfighting domain because our competitors made it so.
                        the pacing threat--china
    China poses a major security challenge and remains a long-term 
strategic competitor to the United States. Beijing views the 
international environment and China's relationship with Washington as 
increasingly adversarial. China continues its decades-long military 
modernization campaign in order to build what it terms a ``world-class 
military.'' Chinese leaders characterize China's long-term military 
modernization program as essential to achieving great-power status. 
People's Liberation Army (PLA) modernization focuses on developing and 
fielding advanced military capabilities in all warfighting domains--
emphasizing long-range precision strike, cyberspace, electronic 
warfare, space, counterspace, and a modern, effective nuclear deterrent 
while restructuring the PLA into a combat-capable global joint force. 
Looking forward, an increasingly capable and lethal Chinese joint force 
will almost certainly be able to hold United States and allied forces 
at risk at greater distances from the Chinese mainland.
    China developed robust and capable space services, including space-
based intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR). Moreover, 
they are making improvements to existing systems, including space 
launch vehicles and satellite navigation constellations. Their current 
BeiDou navigation system is now globally operational. These 
capabilities may mask potential military activities and may be 
considered dual-use in nature. Operated collectively, these 
capabilities provide their military with the ability to globally 
command and control their forces, enhance their situational awareness, 
as well as enable them to monitor, track, and target adversary forces. 
Today China's ISR satellites are capable of providing electro-optical 
and synthetic aperture radar imagery, as well as electronic 
intelligence and signals intelligence data. Beijing has a goal of 
becoming a broad based, fully capable space power. China's rapidly 
growing space program is second only to the United States in the number 
of operational satellites.
    Beijing actively seeks space superiority through space and space 
attack systems. One notable object is the Shijian-17, a Chinese 
satellite with a robotic arm. Space-based robotic arm technology could 
be used in a future system for grappling other satellites. China also 
has multiple ground-based laser systems of varying power levels that 
could blind or damage satellite systems. China is developing a broad 
complement of jamming and cyberspace capabilities, directed energy 
weapons, on-orbit capabilities, and ground-based antisatellite missiles 
that can achieve a range of effects. China will attempt to hold United 
States space assets at risk while using its own space capabilities to 
support its military objectives and overall national security goals.
 russia seeks to degrade united states space capabilities in order to 
                      prevail in future conflicts
    The Russian military remains an existential threat to the United 
States and a potent tool designed to maintain Russia's influence over 
the states along its periphery. Russia sees space as integral to 
winning modern wars and reorganized their Aerospace Force in 2015 to 
incorporate space operations and counterspace capabilities. Russia 
views its space program as a longstanding example of its leadership on 
the international stage. Moscow concluded that gaining and maintaining 
supremacy in space has a decisive impact on the outcome of future 
conflicts and is developing space attack systems to hold United States 
and allied space assets at risk.
    Russia considers United States dependency on space to enable 
military power projection as a vulnerability it can exploit in a 
conflict. Concurrently, Russia pursues counterspace weapon systems that 
can deny, damage, and defeat United States space-based systems in order 
to reduce United States military effectiveness and control conflict 
escalation if deterrence fails. Russia is also developing and testing 
space-based and direct ascent anti-satellite weapon systems.
    The Nudol is a Russian mobile ground-based missile designed to 
destroy satellites in low Earth orbit. Additionally and already on 
orbit are COSMOS 2504 and COSMOS 2536, prototype Russian antisatellite 
weapons that could kinetically destroy satellites in low Earth orbit. 
Russia also has several ground based low-power lasers designed to 
temporarily blind United States missile warning and imagery satellites, 
and high-power lasers developed to damage United States satellites.
    In 2020, Russia conducted several counter-space weapon systems 
tests while also exhibiting unsafe and irresponsible maneuvers on 
orbit. It tested an improved, highly survivable ground-based anti-
satellite missile system, and a space-based weapon system that released 
a projectile designed to target other satellites on orbit. Both weapon 
systems could damage or destroy a satellite, creating a cloud of debris 
that would endanger every space-faring nation's satellites, to include 
the International Space Station. Such activities are inconsistent with 
the safe and peaceful use of space. Meanwhile, Russia continues to 
update and modernize terrestrial alternatives to space systems, 
creating asymmetries that could enable them to hold United States 
space-based capabilities at risk.
iran and north korea continue to develop and expand their counter-space 
                              capabilities
    Iran and North Korea continue to advance their own counter-space 
threats through cyberattacks, jamming, and electronic warfare. Having 
closely observed our ability to harness the advantages from space, Iran 
and North Korea actively seek asymmetric approaches to negate our power 
projection capabilities.
    Iran recognizes the strategic value of space and counterspace 
capabilities. Tehran claims to have developed sophisticated 
capabilities, including space launch vehicles and communication and 
remote sensing satellites. Iran's simple space launch vehicles are 
currently only able to launch microsatellites into low Earth orbit. 
Iran proclaimed the April 2020 launch of the NOUR-01 satellite to be a 
``start of the formation of a global power.'' While Iran claims the 
NOUR-01 has imaging capabilities, our persistent observation efforts 
prove that it is actually non-operational, tumbling through space, and 
unlikely to provide any useful intelligence. However, Iran is using 
improvements in the missile launch technology used to put the NOUR-01 
satellite on orbit to develop longer-range, more accurate strike 
weapons. Iran's counterspace capabilities have centered around jamming 
satellite communications and global positioning system (GPS), and Iran 
is reportedly making advancements in these areas.
    North Korea also maintains a threat to space operations through its 
electronic warfare capabilities, with an emphasis on deception 
operations and GPS jamming. The technology to evolve and mature their 
cyberattack capabilities continues to improve, along with their ability 
to develop more advanced long-range missile launch systems.
    One way that these less developed adversaries seek to leapfrog or 
negate our advantages is by leveraging commercially available 
capabilities. These capabilities provide them with partially effective 
military support that helps them to navigate, gather intelligence, 
communicate, and otherwise achieve competencies that until very 
recently were the exclusive purview of more advanced space powers. We 
should not assume that our current qualitative advantage in these areas 
necessarily ensures the space superiority we previously held.
other nations and commercial expansion are increasing opportunities and 
                          challenges in space
    With more than 50 space-faring nations and commercial entities, 
space is one of the most interconnected and interdependent operational 
domains. Interestingly, as of 2020, six of those nations and one 
alliance of nations have demonstrated an inherent Mars exploration 
capability through attempts to place a vehicle on its surface. Those 
countries include the United States, Russia, China, the United Arab 
Emirates, Japan, India, and the European Union. While this is a 
positive indication of a rapidly accelerating interest in space that 
can benefit a greater number of people, it also highlights the need to 
prioritize space development. More significantly, it highlights the 
need for good stewardship of the domain, which demands responsible 
behavior; a mistake by one could have catastrophic consequences for 
all.
    Commercial growth in space provides both significant opportunities 
and potential challenges to overcome. The commercial space sector 
continues to grow, with global revenue exceeding $366 billion in 2019 
and 60-satellite per launch missions or advancements in commercial 
space tourism from companies like SpaceX and Virgin Galactic 
highlighting the importance of the domain. Commercial opportunities 
open new possibilities, but can also complicate access to the domain 
with the proliferation of mega constellations. As commercial satellite 
constellations expand and begin pushing out beyond geosynchronous 
orbits, it becomes increasingly important to understand the domain and 
to manage burgeoning traffic.
    Underpinning this growing congestion is the ability to understand 
the environment through shared space situational awareness--tracking 
objects in space--and space domain awareness--tracking, identifying, 
and characterizing space objects with the appropriate fidelity to 
identify threats. USSPACECOM continues to develop partnerships with 
allies, within the U.S. Government, and with commercial partners to 
advance mission capability in both space situational awareness, and 
space domain awareness. As part of this overarching effort, the 
Department of Commerce is increasing its role in promoting spaceflight 
safety standards and the coordination of space traffic, a critical 
component to safe operations in the domain. I appreciate the Department 
of Commerce's enthusiasm and dedication to effectively develop, 
maintain, and use space situational awareness data from a variety of 
governmental, commercial, and international sources in an Open 
Architecture Data Repository. I urge Congress to afford the Department 
of Commerce the resources they need to accomplish the civil and 
commercial spaceflight safety mission. This transition allows 
USSPACECOM to concentrate on developing the more precise space domain 
awareness capabilities essential to characterizing threats in space 
and, in turn, enabling a whole-of-government response. A continuing 
partnership between USSPACECOM and the Department of Commerce is a key 
enabler of U.S. and allied space superiority, not to mention a 
necessary element of a vibrant space economy.
                  build the command to compete and win
  united states space command has unique space domain responsibilities
    Where the U.S. once enjoyed a profound technological lead in 
developing and fielding space capabilities, strategic competitors now 
compete for space dominance. As these potential adversaries have 
evolved and proliferated an increasing array of counter-space 
capabilities, USSPACECOM relies on its service and interagency partners 
to outpace the threats. This requires continued emphasis and focus on 
correctly identifying threats and responding rapidly in a threat-
relevant timeframe.
    USSPACECOM has two essential tasks--first, to enable the Joint 
Force by providing unmatched, dependable space capabilities; and 
second, employing combat power in the space domain. Our mission is to 
conduct operations in, from, and to space that deter conflict and, if 
deterrence fails, deliver decisive space combat power for the Joint and 
Combined Force. Our ability to accomplish this mission effectively is 
contingent on amassing a variety of capabilities and effectively 
integrating them across all domains and in concert with the Joint force 
and our allies and partners.
   usspacecom is increasing its operational reach and expanding its 
 capabilities through participation in joint, combined, and integrated 
                               exercises
    USSPACECOM continues to grow its operational capability with our 
two functional components and five service components. These functional 
and service components provide warfighting capabilities for joint 
execution in support of USSPACECOM. Through Joint Task Force--Space 
Defense, we protect and defend our on-orbit assets, and through 
Combined Force Space Component Command, we provide support to 
terrestrial forces and integrate with commercial partners, while 
defending the domain against aggression. To task these organizations 
efficiently and effectively, USSPACECOM published its first campaign 
plan and operating order that aligns joint operations and achieves 
unity of effort.
    To test our plans and operating concepts, USSPACECOM regularly 
participates in advanced, coalition-integrated global and regional 
exercises and wargames, such as Global Lightning, Austere Challenge, 
and Pacific Fury. These events prepare our Joint Force, allies, and 
partners to protect and defend our space assets while providing combat 
effects in, from, and to space. Through these multiple exercises and 
senior level war games, USSPACECOM demonstrates its ability to work 
with other Combatant Commands, the Joint Staff, and international 
partners to execute globally integrated operations across the spectrum 
of warfare.
    Warfighting exercises require a multi-service, multi-domain, and 
globally integrated approach to national security objectives, 
consistent with the Chairman's Joint All-Domain operations directive. 
We are also preparing to execute our own tier one multi-combatant 
command exercise in fiscal year 2022. In future exercises, we will 
continue to integrate fully across regions and domains to protect and 
defend U.S. and allied space interests globally.
   the united states must improve its defensive and offensive space 
  warfighting capabilities to deter adversaries and prevail in future 
                               conflicts
    The DOD's legacy space architecture and organizations were designed 
for a relatively benign and uncontested environment. In past decades, 
we invested in vulnerable, space-based platforms while our adversaries 
invested in relatively low-cost methods to counter these capabilities. 
Our focus was engineering redundancy rather than warfighting 
reliability. This left us vulnerable to exploitation--particularly as 
our dependence on space-based capabilities to advance U.S. interests 
continued to grow. This changing strategic environment resembles the 
environment experienced by the United States in the Vietnam War, where 
conventional strength dependent on vulnerable supply lines and 
centralized forces left troops pursuing a defense strategy, vulnerable 
to asymmetric and decentralized attacks.
    Today, even as potential adversaries continue their effort to 
achieve parity in space capability, they also employ asymmetric 
capabilities to deny us the advantages of space. The U.S. must continue 
to build resilience in the vital space capabilities the Joint Force 
requires to fight and win in space, as well as in the air, land, sea, 
and cyber domains, while strengthening its space warfighting capability 
to counter these rising peer, near-peer, and asymmetric threats. Such 
warfighting capability provides a credible deterrent against 
belligerent actions in the space domain as part of a broader U.S. 
strategy for deterrence and defense.
    USSPACECOM aims to advance our capability and capacity aggressively 
by coordinating with the services, leveraging innovative space systems, 
and by developing joint warfighters who have the expertise, judgment, 
and will to fight and win against a determined adversary. To this end, 
USSPACECOM provides warfighter requirements to the Department, which 
leads the acquisition of the capabilities we need to achieve our 
mission. This is critical to revitalize our aging space architecture, 
remaking older, less flexible, and vulnerable systems into a resilient, 
redundant, and survivable architecture to cope with evolving threats. 
Consequently, we need the continued support of Congress for the 
Services as they acquire components of this architecture and work to 
streamline acquisition processes and shorten the time from concept to 
fielding. USSPACECOM also strongly supports any economical, innovative 
solution that increases the defensibility of our space systems and 
provides the means to maintain space superiority.
    Moreover, in today's threat environment, strategic deterrence 
remains the bedrock of our national defense. Every Operational Plan 
across the Department begins with the assumption that strategic 
deterrence will hold. A safe, secure, and effective nuclear force, 
enabled by space-based assets, remains the most credible combination of 
capabilities to deter strategic attack and execute our national 
strategy. We must stay the course with nuclear and conventional force 
recapitalization commitments to ensure the Joint Force can operate 
when, where, and as required to defend our national interests. 
Moreover, we must defend our space assets and improve our space domain 
awareness to present viable options to the Joint Force across the 
spectrum of operations.
    Just as we must revise our systems and processes, we must also 
develop the most critical component of our enterprise--our warfighters. 
USSPACECOM is laying the foundation for a warfighting organization and 
is reinforcing a spirit of excellence, character, and resolve in our 
space experts. In so doing, we will promote coordination across the 
entire enterprise and empower our warfighters to act decisively and 
win.
    United States Space Command is a joint warfighting organization 
with uniformed and civilian representatives from all services and the 
Nation's Intelligence Community. A year and a half after 
reestablishment, we have approximately 430 military and civilian 
personnel assigned to the Headquarters, or just over one third of our 
authorized end strength. We need the continued support of Congress to 
help us achieve our full strength, especially with regard to funding 
our civilian personnel, who comprise two-thirds of our workforce and 
provide critical diversity, continuity, and skills. This is critical to 
our ability to prevent capability gaps in support of the National 
Defense Strategy and missions assigned to us in the Unified Command 
Plan. To this end, we continue to align our work force to bolster 
operational capabilities presented by our joint centers. We use these 
forces to achieve our key tasks: understanding our competition, 
building the command to compete and win, fostering and maintaining key 
relationships, maintaining digital superiority, and integrating 
commercial and interagency organizations. By achieving these key tasks, 
we will accomplish our mission.
usspacecom focuses on personnel development as a key enabler of mission 
                                success
    USSPACECOM works with our joint force providers to acquire the best 
and the brightest personnel, helping develop our future space leaders 
through training, education, and other aspects of human capital 
development. In partnership with the National Security Space Institute, 
USSPACECOM develops a cadre of joint space warfighters that ensures an 
enduring focus on space power as part of a more lethal and ready force. 
This interactive classroom instruction, coupled with individually 
tailored online training, allows newcomers an opportunity to build upon 
their knowledge base in the context of our directed missions. 
Additionally, we continue to integrate space into professional military 
education, other combatant commanders' conferences, and throughout 
joint education. Investment in human capital improves the development 
of joint space warfighters and our lethality in the space domain.
  to remain a space power requires consistent and continued resources 
  commensurate with the value that space provides and that the threat 
                                demands
    USSPACECOM's ability to execute its assigned mission depends on the 
services' continued rapid development and timely delivery of critical 
space warfighting capabilities. Specifically, we require the sensor 
architecture necessary to detect and characterize activity in space; a 
unified and distributed command and control family of systems that 
enable synchronized space effects; flexible capabilities to deter 
aggression and deliver decisive effects; and the ability to protect and 
defend U.S. and allied interests.
                     maintaining key relationships
  usspacecom is strengthening alliances and attracting new partners, 
   while working with private enterprises to improve space awareness
    As President Biden lays out in the March 2021 Interim National 
Security Strategic Guidance, strengthening our relationships with 
allies and partners is crucial to maintaining a secure, safe, and 
sustainable space environment. To this end, we are expanding our 
network of partner nations, international organizations, and commercial 
entities that bring situational awareness, mutual support, and 
technological innovation to the space enterprise. We are enhancing our 
interoperability with allies and partners and sharing information to 
unite around a compelling narrative.
    In 2020, USSPACECOM expanded space related data sharing agreements, 
including new partners Luxembourg, Peru, and Portugal. To date, 
USSPACECOM has agreements with 26 nations, two intergovernmental 
organizations, three academic institutions, and over 90 commercial 
satellite owners, operators, and service providers. By providing this 
advanced information and services to space-faring partners, we display 
American leadership in the space domain, promote transparency in the 
responsible and peaceful use of space, and support the planned 
transition of civil and commercial spaceflight safety services to the 
Department of Commerce in 2024. In 2020, in coordination with 
USSOUTHCOM, we implemented our first ``space-centric'' security 
cooperation initiative focusing on institutional capacity building with 
Brazil, Chile, Colombia, and Peru.
    The safety and sustainability of an increasingly crowded space 
domain grows more complex as commercial entities plan to launch 
thousands of satellites in the next few years. The explosive growth of 
nano, micro, and small satellites will further stress our existing 
space surveillance networks. Working closely with companies as they 
plan, launch, and operationalize these new mega-constellations is key 
to our continued ability to provide comprehensive space situational 
awareness. As a priority, USSPACECOM warfighters in the Combined Space 
Operations Center (Vandenberg AFB), the National Space Defense Center 
(Schriever AFB), the Joint Operations Center (Peterson AFB), and at a 
variety of other key nodes are working tirelessly with interagency 
partners to build and leverage complete and timely space domain 
awareness. Along with this battle space awareness, we are also 
prioritizing the associated and necessary space command and control 
capabilities.
    Space domain awareness remains the bedrock of many partnerships and 
the top priority for USSPACECOM. The command seeks to develop a more 
complete, big picture understanding of activities in the domain. This 
goes beyond merely tracking space objects for situational awareness to 
a space domain awareness that identifies, tracks, and characterizes 
objects that can threaten U.S. and allied space capabilities. This is a 
necessary element of acknowledging space as a warfighting domain, which 
includes its enabling computer networks, terrestrial sites, and the 
electromagnetic links between space and ground systems.
   achieving the desired effects in the space domain requires close 
               coordination with other combatant commands
    The command continues to evolve Combatant Command integration and 
establish normalized relationships to coordinate, integrate, and 
synchronize operations extending beyond geographic areas of 
responsibility. To facilitate cooperation, interoperability, and unity 
of effort, USSPACECOM created Space-Integrated Planning Elements 
comprised of space and intelligence planners embedded within the staffs 
of our sister Combatant Commands. These experts integrate space 
capabilities and effects into their respective Combatant Command plans 
while mutually informing USSPACECOM's operational plan development. 
Furthermore, each Combatant Command's space warriors integrate space 
effects across all warfighting functions, enhancing the Joint Force's 
ability to achieve military objectives rapidly and decisively.
                    maintaining digital superiority
    Underpinning all of these must be a robust cybersecurity 
environment that secures our intellectual and technological advantages 
from cradle to grave. It is critical to keep building this momentum by 
funding these fundamental capabilities: battle space awareness, command 
and control, deterrent space capabilities, cybersecurity, and protect 
and defend capabilities. Additionally, we must capitalize on machine 
learning and artificial intelligence developments to secure our 
systems, advance our capabilities, and increase the speed of our 
decision-making process. Accordingly, within our efforts to maintain 
digital superiority, USSPACECOM is determined to innovate for 
competitive advantage, evolve cyber operations for an agile and 
resilient posture, and invest in game-changing technologies. The 
research and development, acquisition, and operationalization process 
relies on innovation at every level, and we must streamline this 
process to operate at the growing pace of decision-making. Future years 
will require additional resources to accomplish all of this, and to 
ensure the U.S. can adequately address the evolving and expanding cyber 
threats posed by our strategic competitors and adversaries.
          integrating commercial and interagency organizations
 usspacecom provides mission assurance for interagency and commercial 
                            space operations
    The rapidly accelerating interest in space and associated growth in 
the technically oriented industrial base is a key part of continued 
U.S. economic prosperity. U.S. commercial space growth aids our 
mitigation efforts against threats. One example includes the effort 
with commercial partners to design and field a United States-built 
engine to power our largest space launch vehicles, thus decreasing our 
need for reliance on the Russian RD--180 to propel our Atlas V launch 
vehicle. In our interagency space mission assurance role, USSPACECOM 
supported NASA and SpaceX for contingency rescue operations for both 
the Demonstration Mission Two launch in August and the SpaceX Crew-1 
launch in November--the first crewed space launches from U.S. soil in 
nearly a decade. USSPACECOM is committed to assuring the safe 
exploration of space and is supporting the planned lunar missions. 
USSPACECOM is preparing to provide crew and spacecraft recovery for the 
upcoming Artemis missions and associated training events to begin late 
2021.
                               conclusion
    USSPACECOM plays a crucial role in guaranteeing the American way of 
life through the delivery and defense of U.S. and allied space 
capabilities and services. We make daily gains in our ability to 
protect and defend our assets from our adversaries, and we stand ready 
to provide advanced space-based capabilities to our warfighters. Under 
the direction of the President and Secretary of Defense, and with the 
support of Congress, USSPACECOM is prepared to safeguard our access and 
operations outside our atmosphere so that there is never a day without 
space.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Dickinson.
    Before we begin, let me remind my colleagues that since 
this is a hybrid hearing, we will not use the early Byrd rule; 
instead, we will ask questions in order of seniority.
    They are 5-minute rounds. Please stick as closely as you 
can to the 5 minutes. You will see the timer before you, and I 
would ask all colleagues to mute their microphones when they 
are not speaking. Thank you.
    General Dickinson, let me begin with what I think is a 
fundamental question. As I suggested in my opening remarks, you 
could also be called sensor command, as well as Space Command, 
because your responsibilities extend not only to space-based 
sensors, but also to many ground-based sensors, and to 
integrate them into a system, a coherent system.
    So, bottom-line question, what are you doing to ensure that 
missile-warning infrastructure of radars and satellites are 
capable of determining whether there is a ballistic or a 
hypersonic missile attack on the United States?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, thank you for that question.
    So, what we are doing at U.S. Space Command over the past 
20 months or so since we stood up was looking at all the 
sensor, the entire sensor architecture worldwide in an attempt 
or in terms of understanding what sensors we have doing what 
specific missions. What we have done over the past year or so 
has been, we have taken the opportunity to take terrestrial-
based sensors that traditionally do missile-defense type of 
activities from the different services, the Army and the Navy, 
and we have looked at them from the perspective of how can they 
contribute to our ability to understand what is going on in the 
space domain?
    While this is just the beginning of it in terms of making 
those sensors interoperable in our architecture, we are driving 
towards the future of where we will actually have those 
integrated. So, in other words, Senator, we are taking current 
capabilities that used to traditionally do missile defense and 
seeing if they have capabilities to help us in the space domain 
in terms of doing our space domain-awareness type missions. As 
we look to further refine our requirements, adding requirements 
to those capabilities through the Department to enhance their 
ability to do space domain awareness.
    So, we have had good success over the last 19 months in 
doing that and we have demonstrated a couple of times, with 
regards to some of the actions that our competitors have been 
doing on orbit with a relative degree of success. So, we have 
taken the first step. The steps after that will be further 
integration of those capabilities and, again, working with each 
of the combatant commands in terms of prioritization of those 
sensors to be able to do both, space domain awareness, as well 
as missile-defense missile warning.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, General.
    Admiral Richard, why do we need to build a ground-based 
strategic deterrent, rather than simply extend the life of the 
Minuteman-III ICBM?
    Admiral Richard. So, Senator, the answer to that 
fundamentally starts with the idea that nothing lasts forever. 
You cannot indefinitely life-extend anything, and I cannot 
deter with the leftovers of the Cold War forever into the 
future. That is the fundamental reason here.
    I am different from the other combatant commands in that I 
don't come up with my own objectives; they are directed by the 
President, and as interpreted by the Secretary of Defense and 
the Chairman. So, I have a stack of things I have been ordered 
to do. I need a certain amount of capability to go do that and 
I need weapons systems that will actually work and actually 
make it to the target.
    So, there are any number of reasons. The ultimate authority 
on whether or not Minuteman-III can be extended is the 
Secretary of the Air Force and the Chief of Staff of the Air 
Force, as just by the Secretary of Defense. So, I am not the 
ultimate authority on that.
    I think we have repeatedly reported to Congress why it is 
not cost-effective to do that, and from my viewpoint, I am not 
sure how they are going to be able to do it at all. It is in 
the details. What they are doing to keep that weapons system 
functioning, remember, that is a 1970s-era weapons system that 
I am going to have to employ against 2030-level threats. We are 
down to two of a particular type of switch that is required to 
go in the launch-control centers. Nobody knows how to make it 
anymore; it is obsolete. It is not worth a company to put their 
effort into that. They have repeatedly been pulling rabbits out 
of the hat to work through those types of issues.
    A simple one, Senator, is if you try to life-extend a 
weapons system that was built before the invention of the 
internet and then turn around and ask me why it is not cyber 
secure, I don't know how to retrofit a full cybersecurity 
capabilities forever into the future on a system that wasn't 
even designed when we had an internet. So, fundamentally, 
nothing lasts forever and we eventually have to get new stuff, 
sir. All right.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral.
    Just one final question in my remaining time. Would a more 
robust arms control effort by the United States and, obviously, 
other countries, particularly the United States, complement 
your mission to deter an atomic attack or a nuclear outbreak?
    Admiral Richard. Absolutely, Senator. I have said I will 
support any arms control agreement, less formally, I will take 
all I can get, right. If we actually have arms control and we 
are confident in it and it is verifiable it reduces the threat, 
it simply makes my job easier.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    In my office, we talked about this, Admiral Richard and I. 
I think you covered it so well in your opening statement. I 
keep thinking, I am not sure what you might have left out, but 
you have done a great job.
    We know what Russia is doing. We know what they have been 
doing. We know what China has been doing. North Korea, now, is 
presenting a growing risk to the United States and our allies, 
and yet, our nuclear forces are decades past their designed 
lives and will need to be retired soon.
    So, I just think it is important that when we are seeing 
our primary adversaries, as outlined in our dais, that we are 
not doing what we should be doing. We are actually behind our 
primary adversaries.
    So, I would like to have you, you know, restate. Russia, we 
know what they are doing. They have already modernized over 80 
percent of its force, and China's nuclear programs are 
accelerating.
    So, I would like to know how important is it that we 
complete the U.S. Nuclear Modernization Program as quickly as 
possible. You have outlined that we are not, and where we are 
relative to our adversaries, but tell me how important it is 
that we do it now.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I will start with--
    Senator Inhofe. Mic, we need your mic.
    Admiral Richard. I will start with, I want to expand on one 
point. I said in my opening statement that China could no 
longer be a lesser-included case. What that means is they are 
at the point that what it is going to take to deter them is 
going to start to be additive to what we have to do with 
Russia.
    I don't have the luxury of deterring one country at a time. 
I am expected to deter all countries all of the time, and then 
on top of that, I don't have any remaining operational margin, 
right. We have exhausted the operational margin to allow us to 
delay this recapitalization as far as we went. I think it is 
important to remember that a lot of the quantities that we are 
talking about in these requirements were set many years ago 
when the threat level was actually much more benign than what 
we have seen now, and we have simply no operate, you are 
counting now on more and more things having to go right, and we 
are counting on more and more that we precisely understand the 
threat we are at, and that is a standard we have never allowed 
in our history to happen inside the strategic deterrent force.
    Then the final point, is we have never had to deter two 
opponents at the same time that are different. Most of our 
theory doesn't even account for that. We are working very hard 
on that, but that is why we have to have these capabilities in 
order to execute the direction the President gave me.
    Senator Inhofe. That is good.
    I know there are a lot of people that are leaning on our 
President, a lot of anti-nuke people that are wanting to 
minimize the concern that we, that we are expressing today. One 
of the things is the no-first-use policy. Now, that is one that 
I can't remember one Secretary of Defense who shares, who 
doesn't share your view on the no-first policy. I mean, it is 
there. It is real, and so, I think even Secretary Gates was 
quite outspoken in that area. Can you think of anyone who 
doesn't have that policy? One quick word, then, on the no-
first-use, since that is going to come up, that is going to be 
a very prominently portrayed and discussed.
    What is your feeling on that?
    Admiral Richard. Well, Senator, what I would offer on this, 
is, and I have testified to this effect before, look, the 
Nation can have any policy it wants, right. The Nation can have 
any----
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah, you did testify. You said, my best 
military advice would be to not adopt a no-first-use policy. 
You are strong on that.
    Admiral Richard. Right, and I still stand by that statement 
and here is why. One, we have already run an excursion of what 
that would do to strategic deterrence. It will diminish it. You 
will remove a level of ambiguity now that has a deterring 
effect, short of employment of nuclear weapons. We won't have 
that anymore. That will be mitigated by the fact that nobody is 
going to believe it anyway, right, it won't be credible.
    We already have assurances that cover all, but about 10 
nations or so, half of which are our allies. So, you are only 
talking to folks who are probably not going to find it 
credible. It will have no more credibility than our current 
missile-defense policies do.
    The catch is some of the allies will believe it. So, it 
will have a corrosive effect on our assurance and extended 
deterrence commitments.
    I think the commander of EUCOM, General Wolters, mentioned, 
you will get a mixed response. I think he is correct. But I 
don't see the upside to it, is my point, and so, I continue to 
recommend we not adopt that.
    Senator Inhofe. Well, unfortunately, my time is expired, 
but let me just ask you, General Dickinson, all these documents 
that we have here that directly address your area, do you think 
that those, that the 2018, that was back in 2018, that the NDS 
still accurately assesses the strategic environment as it 
pertains to space domain?
    General Dickinson. Senator, I do. I do, in fact, believe it 
does because, you know, space is a warfighting domain. We have 
seen the activities by our competitors, both Russia and China, 
as they have expanded their capabilities, in particular, China 
in the space domain. We see their capabilities from direct-
assent ASAT. Anti-satellite capabilities to on-orbit activity 
that they have done with that capability. We have seen the 
increase or proliferation of their directed-energy efforts in 
terms of electronic warfare in terms of jamming, as well as 
laser technology. So, I believe it is absolutely a warfighting 
domain that we need to continue to work very closely with.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you so much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, and Admiral Richard and General 
Dickinson, thank you for being here this morning and for your 
service.
    General Dickinson, I want to begin with you. The Air Force 
is currently responsible for space traffic management for both, 
military and civilian satellites, and as we look at the 
proliferation of commercial satellites, that has become more 
and more challenging with situational awareness.
    But over the next few years, the Department of Commerce is 
going to assume responsibility for managing the civilian 
component.
    Senator Moran and I, as the ranking member and chair of the 
Commerce, Justice, and Science Appropriations Subcommittee have 
asked for additional information about the funding and 
personnel requirements that that kind of transfer would 
require. We have not yet received a definitive answer from the 
Air Force about how much it spends on the functions that will 
be transferred to the Commerce Department.
    The fiscal year 2021 omnibus provides $10 million for the 
Commerce Department to begin to assume those responsibilities. 
Can you talk about how this compares to what the Air Force is 
currently spending.
    General Dickinson. Senator, thank you.
    The space traffic management, as I mentioned in my opening 
remarks, you know, we, on a daily basis, we are tracking close 
to 32,000 pieces of debris, objects, satellites, whether they 
are active or old dead satellites, and that is quite a, that is 
a big mission area within U.S. Space Command.
    Today, the resources that I use on that provide what I 
would term a very administrative type of function in terms of 
identifying objects in space so that we are able to provide a 
secure and safe space environment for activities on orbit, in 
particular, the International Space Station, for example, in 
low-Earth orbit----
    Senator Shaheen. I am sorry to interrupt, but I understand 
that. I think that is a very important function.
    That is why we are trying to get some information about how 
much you are actually spending so we can figure out as we look 
at the budget for the Commerce Department.
    I would say that I had a certain amount of skepticism about 
whether this should be moved to the Department of Commerce and 
there was a study done that came to the conclusion that maybe 
it does make sense to move that function there.
    So, do you know or can you provide in committee in the 
future, with the amount of money that you are currently 
spending on that function?
    General Dickinson. I certainly can. I can take that back 
and get you an answer from the Air Force on how much they 
spend.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    General Dickinson. Based on input from USSF, fiscal year 2020 
expenditures totaled $60 million for Operations, Depot and Special 
Program Office (SPO) expenses. Included in that figure is $12.4 million 
to sustain legacy space capabilities.

    Senator Shaheen. Thanks very much.
    You also talked in your opening comments about the 
importance, you said power is our people, and I certainly agree 
with that. But as we look at the proposed relocation of Space 
Command headquarters from chief restructuring officer to the 
Redstone Arsenal in Alabama, I am some concerns, based on our 
past experience with a similar transfer of operations from the 
National Capital Region to Huntsville, Alabama, of the Missile 
Defense Agency. In that move, the agency lost 80 percent of its 
civilian workforce because employees refused to move.
    Do you have any estimate as to how much it is going to cost 
to move to Redstone from the current location and how many 
employees you might lose in that process?
    General Dickinson. Senator, so, I don't have exact numbers 
on estimates on the cost for the move to Huntsville.
    That is actually being determined now by the Department of 
the Air Force as the basing decision authority.
    With regards to the civilian workforce, I would categorize 
that as I don't have a good feel for that right now, because it 
will depend. I think the military, we can all agree, we are 
somewhat nomadic and we move where the military tells us to. 
When dealing with civilians, and I have done that in two 
previous jobs at the Missile Defense Agency, actually, in my 
last job at Space and Missile Defense Command, it is a little 
bit different when you are talking about civilians. They have 
made life choices and where they are currently living, and so, 
we will do everything we can to incentivize them to make the 
move, but I can't give you a percentage on how many that will 
be.
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    I will defer basing process questions to the SecAF, who has the 
authority for selecting the permanent location for USSPACECOM 
Headquarters. Analysis to understand the impact of a transition to 
Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL is underway. My staff is looking 
hard at timelines, anticipated impacts to human capital, facilities, 
and mission with a goal of minimizing risk to mission while being good 
stewards of the taxpayers' money. Once we have a final basing decision, 
we will be able to provide and discuss the full analysis.

    Senator Shaheen. Well, Mr. Chairman, I would hope that we 
would get some more information before this proposal becomes 
final about how many employees we might lose and about what the 
difference in cost is, which I think is significant.
    Admiral Richard, I was very pleased to see the new Biden 
administration agree to extend the New START Treaty for 5 more 
years. Can you talk about how STRATCOM uses the information 
from New START channels, the inspections and data exchanges and 
how they are important to you.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, we were also pleased to see the 
New START Treaty get extended and it is for that----
    Chairman Reed. Your microphone, Admiral.
    Admiral Richard. I'm sorry. You would think I have done 
this before.
    We were also pleased to see the New START Treaty be 
extended, right, and so, you are pointing to one of its primary 
benefits. In addition to the limits, it is the transparency and 
the confidence now that we have in understanding what that 
piece of the threat looks like. What I would further encourage 
his efforts to get a similar degree of control and 
accountability on the remainder of the Russian arsenal, all of 
which is something I have to deter.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
gentlemen for being here today.
    Admiral Richard, I would like to thank you for your honesty 
and your bluntness of your opening statement in explaining the 
expanding nuclear programs of both, China and Russia. Last 
week, the Strategic Forces Subcommittee held a classified 
briefing on these threats and yet, we continue to hear renewed 
calls for unilateral cuts to our nuclear forces, abandoning the 
triad, and delaying or cancelling modernization programs.
    Sir, are you aware of any intelligence or threat 
assessments that would support these courses of action?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I am not. In fact, the threat is 
only getting worse rapidly.
    Senator Fischer. So, it is your view that taking such 
actions would reduce our ability to deter the threats that we 
face?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, yes.
    Senator Fischer. Microphone.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, yes.
    It is not just the nuclear component. Part of what I am 
trying to show is the relationship in all of our elements of 
national power and how nuclear underpins that.
    Senator Fischer. What about the future, because, as you 
know, the impact of cutting modernization programs now, it 
wouldn't be felt until the 2030s when our force begins to age 
out, as you spoke about, and replacements aren't ready.
    Do you see any reason to believe that the world is going to 
be a lot safer in 2030 and we won't need a viable deterrent 
then?
    Admiral Richard. I see no indications of that. That will be 
an unprecedented threat that we face in 2030. Hopefully, 
perhaps we can change that trajectory, but I can't count on 
hope in terms of having the capabilities needed to do my 
mission.
    Senator Fischer. Admiral Richard, what are your views on 
the current distribution of warheads across the three legs of 
our triad?
    Right now we see about 70 percent of our treaty-accountable 
warheads. They are on our submarines, and if significantly cut 
the ICBM leg, as some advocates have urged, what number would 
go up further, and, of course, our bombers are not on alert.
    Do you think there are risks with leaning too heavily on 
one part of the triad?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, the answer is yes, and I will 
give you just one example of that. What is not often recognized 
is we don't have a triad day-to-day, right, the bombers are not 
available to us. We chose to take them off alert as a type of 
peace dividend after the Cold War.
    So, day-to-day, all you have is, basically, a dyad. Basic 
design criteria in the triad is that you cannot allow a failure 
of any one leg of the triad to prevent you from being able to 
do everything the President has ordered you to do. If you don't 
have intercontinental ballistic missiles, we can't meet that 
criteria. You are completely dependent on the submarine leg. I 
have already told the Secretary of Defense that under those 
conditions, I would request to re-alert the bombers.
    Senator Fischer. Sir, you have also talked about counting 
the number of strategic nuclear warheads a nation has, that can 
be a crude way to measure their capability. Your posture 
statement mentions this, as well.
    Can you elaborate on why this is such an incomplete way to 
assess an adversary and talk a little bit about the other 
elements that we need to also be considering.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, fundamentally, you don't deter by 
accounting. We don't hold up cards and say, I have more, I win.
    It is important to know what they can do with that 
capability to understand, operationally, the threat that you 
face. It is important to remember that both, Russia and China 
have a unilateral ability to go to any level of violence that 
they choose to if they perceive that the stakes are high 
enough. There is a point beyond which unlimited conventional 
capability will not be a sufficient deterrent.
    So, unless you have a strategic deterrent that will deter 
them from that, then everything else in the Department of 
Defense is simply going to get escalated past. Knowing what 
they are capable of doing is what causes you to come to that 
conclusion.
    Senator Fischer. Our capability, our production capability 
is basically nonexistent, isn't it----
    Admiral Richard. Yes, ma'am. That is absolutely----
    Senator Fischer.--especially when you compare it to China 
and Russia. Can you speak to that.
    Admiral Richard. Both China and Russia have significant 
capability in their nuclear weapons complexes, I can give you 
the numbers in a closed session, to produce more warheads. We 
are just barely able right now to life-extend our weapons and 
we are just starting to get to the point, we use the two terms 
interchangeably, just to be able to re-manufacture the ones we 
have. We have no capability right now to actually make a new 
weapon.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Let me recognize, via Webex, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Dickinson, I would like to turn to statements made 
by Secretary Blinken, where he said that the United States will 
focus on developing standards and norms of responsible behavior 
in outer space. The DOD Defense Space Strategy also noted our 
need to promote favorable standards and norms of behavior in 
space.
    Can you please discuss SPACECOM's role in developing and 
practicing those norms and what you specifically believe those 
norms should be.
    General Dickinson. Thank you for the question.
    So, SPACECOM's role in that is, one, our ability to 
understand what is going on in the space domain is fundamental 
to establishing and deciding what those norms of behavior are. 
I mentioned a little bit earlier the fact that our ability to 
increase our space domain awareness capabilities on orbit is 
very important to just what I described in terms of 
understanding what our competitors may be doing in the space 
domain.
    I believe that, from a military perspective, that the norms 
of behavior and what we do in space is very important.
    We have seen activity over the last 19, 20 months since 
this command has been established, that has shown that we have 
had some behaviors in space that are inconsistent with 
providing a safe and secure environment for our military 
activities, as well as our commercial.
    So, in terms of norms of behavior and how we are working, 
we work very closely with the Department of Defense and, in 
particular, our OSD policy folks, on determining our 
recommendations to that process. The developing norms of 
behavior is a whole-of-government idea and approach, if you 
will, that will dictate our position on what those norms of 
behavior should be.
    But, in sum, I would tell you that we have to have safe 
activities in orbit. We understand those by space domain 
awareness, along with what that means in terms of where folks 
put, where our adversaries and competitors put their space-
based capabilities and what they are doing.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    In last week's cyber architecture hearing, the subcommittee 
discussed the interoperability between our cyber capacity and 
space operations. Given that your command and CYBERCOM are both 
operating in highly complex and ever-evolving environments, how 
integrated would you say your efforts are with theirs, and how 
do you plan to maintain a high level of integration with 
CYBERCOM as the threat landscape continues to change?
    General Dickinson. That is very important in terms of our 
integration of space and cyber. We do that through several 
means, if you will. General Nakasone has provided to us, as we 
has done to the other combatant commands, a cyber-integrated 
planning element that is currently residing within my 
headquarters that provides us a very integrated approach to 
cyber and space operations.
    In addition to that, we are standing up a joint cyber 
center within the command, as we speak. I also have, as a 
result of the command standing up, I have five service 
components provided by each of the services to the combatant 
command with two of those, my Navy component, as well as my 
Marine component, who are dual-hatted for me in space, as well 
as cyber. So, I have two service components that cyber is one 
of their core competencies, along with space, and in addition 
to that, General Nakasone has given me some support from the 
16th Air Force.
    So, in other words, I have three general ops or 
headquarters that provide cyber capabilities to me. I have an 
integrated planning element in my headquarters and I also have 
a joint cyber center. So, I believe that we are very well 
integrated in terms of space- and cyber-type of operations.
    We are moving very quickly right now in terms of providing 
our requirements for activities in the cyberspace domain, as 
well as General Nakasone providing me with requirements of what 
he will need in his mission areas, as well.
    Senator Gillibrand. In your written testimony, you 
mentioned that our adversaries have taken a number of 
provocative actions in space in order to test us. One concern 
from the Pentagon's 2020 Defense Space Strategy was that it did 
not explain in clear, full terms how we would deter adversaries 
in space. I am concerned an overemphasis in offensive space 
operations would destabilize space as a contested domain, 
rather than deter our adversaries.
    What do you believe our best tools are to achieve 
deterrence in space?
    General Dickinson. Thank you. That is a great question.
    I would tell you one of our biggest deterrence 
opportunities is with our allies and partners. We have, just 
since this command has stood up, we have just seen a bow wave, 
if you will, of allies and partners who want to come and be 
part of the U.S. Space Command and part of the space 
enterprise. I think as we have seen in other domains, one of 
the greatest deterrence that we have is our allies and partners 
and how we can all come together in a very coordinated and 
synchronized manner in order to do deterrence.
    One example, in particular, was the messaging that we did 
last year in 2019 and 2020, in response to Russian on-orbit 
activities, as well as their direct-assent ASAT tests that they 
did last year. What I mean by that is when we developed our 
messaging strategy for that particular, or those events, we had 
tremendous participation and integration with our allies and 
partners that we had never seen before.
    So, one of the powers of this command or one of the 
strengths of this command is that we are able to do that 24 
hours a day in terms of holding our adversaries and competitors 
accountable in the space domain and our allies and partners 
provide a big piece to that deterrent message.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    Mr. Chairman, I will submit my questions for Admiral 
Richard for the record. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Gillibrand.
    Let me recognize, via Webex, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, first, let me begin by just saying thank you 
very much for your service to our country.
    Admiral Richard, I believe that our traditional national 
defense rests on bedrock of the nuclear triad. I know that you 
have hit this a couple of times, but just in plain English so 
that folks that don't discuss nuclear triads on a regular 
basis, the hard-working Americans that are out there that are 
wondering why we have literally hundreds, if not thousands, of 
nuclear warheads, can you explain to the average guy that is 
working out there why it is that the triad is so important to 
our national security and why it is critical to invest in its 
modernization.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, the simple answer to that 
question is that strategic deterrence doesn't hold, nothing 
else in the Department of Defense is going to work the way it 
was designed. That is it, plain and simple.
    I get anxious that somehow, and remember, nuclear and 
strategic are two different things. All nuclear is strategic. 
Not all strategic is nuclear.
    But we want to put it into a box by itself that has its own 
threat. You can decide how credible you think that threat is 
and somehow there is this independent [inaudible] that we can 
take risks over here and somehow that has nothing to do with 
what the rest of the Department does, when, in fact, it 
underpins it and enables it.
    Yes, we like to throw a lot of numbers around. The bottom 
line is, what is available to the commander to deter and what 
am I deterring against?
    We are treaty-limited to 1500 and 50 accountable nuclear 
weapons by the New START Treaty. That is what is available to 
me to accomplish all of the objectives the President has given 
me, and the consequence of failure in this mission is enormous. 
That is fundamentally what we are trying to accomplish, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Interesting that that particular treaty 
applies to one of our adversaries, but not necessarily all of 
our adversaries, correct?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, that is quite correct.
    Senator Rounds. So, let's just talk about one of those 
other competitors or challengers in this particular case. I 
know that this may be one that may be difficult to do in open 
session, but can you talk a little bit about what China's 
civilian nuclear-production capabilities are and whether or not 
we are factoring that in with regard to their ability to 
produce nuclear material and the number of warheads that they 
are capable of producing in a very short period of time. I 
guess what I am thinking about are the fast reactors that they 
have available to them right now.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, that is actually a great example 
of how rapidly China is changing, or at least how rapidly we 
are figuring it out, right. So, the answer to your question is, 
yes, but that is only as of about a week ago that we became 
aware of that and started the process to understand the 
implications of that.
    Obviously, with a fast-breeder reactor, you now have a very 
large source of weapons-grade plutonium available to you. That 
will change the upper bounds of what China could choose to do 
if they wanted to in terms of further expansion of their 
nuclear capabilities.
    We haven't yet run all the numbers. You are right, the 
answers would have to come back in closed session, but it has 
only been within the last week that we became aware that this 
limitation on them has changed in an upward direction.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    General Dickinson, we have been competing against our 
adversaries, air, land, sea, cyberspace, and now we see them 
most certainly challenging us in space. While they may talk 
about having an interest in a military-free space, or at least 
one in which we are not actively participating in a military 
matter in space, clearly, the threats are there.
    I would like to hear your thoughts on our ability to defend 
against these new threats and what you need in order to 
maintain unfettered access in space. Do you currently have the 
equipment and the resources necessary to protect the assets 
that we have in space right now from the threats from both, 
Russia and China?
    General Dickinson. Senator, so I agree, Russia and China 
are proliferating in the space domain and one more than the 
other in terms of capabilities on space, not just numbers, but 
the capabilities, as well, and that, in particular, is China. 
So, China is absolutely our pacing challenge right now in the 
space domain.
    In terms of how I protect and defend on orbit or in the 
space domain really boils down to my ability to actually see 
and understand what is going on in the space domain. So, in 
other words, being able to use a combination of satellites, as 
well as terrestrial assets to understand activities on orbit, 
not only from an administrative perspective, in terms of 
knowing where things are, but actually having the ability to 
analyze those capabilities to understand what the threat is or 
what those capabilities could do and their intent.
    So, space domain awareness, again, my number-one priority 
in terms of the command, and we have identified that as a 
requirement to both, the Department of Defense and the 
services, as well. But in order to do my ``protect and defend'' 
mission, I must fully understand what is going on in the space 
domain.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Let me now recognize Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and Ranking Member 
Inhofe.
    Just today, I am going to be paying a compliment to our 
staff at every hearing I am doing. The staffs have really done 
a great job of putting these hearings together, where we 
combine people attending in person and people, senators and 
witnesses, attending virtually, and I don't think we should 
take it for granted. So, I just wanted to offer my thanks to 
the hard work to make this challenging time work as seamlessly 
as possible, and to all the staff involved in that, thank you 
for that.
    To the witnesses, thank you.
    My colleagues have asked very good questions, many of which 
I was going to ask, and I am actually just sort of going to 
follow-up on Senator Rounds, where he was ending with space 
awareness. General Dickinson, we had a posture hearing with 
SOUTHCOM recently and Admiral Faller talked about the lack of 
dedicated ISR. He has not unique in that.
    Anytime we have a posture hearing with combatant commands, 
this is a very common theme. Sometimes, it makes me think of, 
you know, the old joke about the CEO that said, I gave my legal 
counsel an unlimited budget and they overspent it.
    I think the demand for ISR is sort of endless, but ISR is 
so critical, obviously, to our combatant commanders really 
getting a handle on and successfully executing any missions 
that they have.
    I have a large collection of commercial satellite providers 
in Virginia who, when these issues come up, they often say that 
they think that they can provide ISR to combatant commanders in 
a way that would complement and combine with our DOD ISR 
capacities to help us out.
    General Dickinson, I am kind of interested to hear your 
perspective on whether commercial satellite providers could be 
woven into the architecture of ISR to be provided to combatant 
commands in a way that would be helpful or do you see 
challenges or limitations that would make that difficult?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator.
    I am an advocate for the commercial ISR capabilities. I 
think when we look at the total, as you mentioned, the ISR 
requirements, that we may never have enough and we will always 
ask for more. I agree with that comment, particularly, as we 
look at some of our competitors, in particular, China and how 
they are developing themselves into a global projection 
capability around the world and the fact that our ISR or our 
ability to see them and understand what is going on, not only 
them, but other competitors, as well, is very, very fundamental 
to our military operations.
    I think the intertwining or interweaving the commercial 
industry into that is absolutely necessary and I think gives us 
a great advantage. I will tell you right now that we do rely on 
commercial ISR in terms of what we do each and every day in the 
U.S. Space Command. So, I look forward to that. It is very 
exciting to watch to see how the commercial market, not only 
with ISR, but with other space capabilities, is actually, you 
know, developing, maturing, and in my words, kind of exploding.
    I mean, if you just look at SpaceX, for example, with the 
Starlink constellation, where they are able to put out 60 
satellites on one rocket shot. To build a constellation of now, 
I think over 1300 satellites in low-Earth orbit is amazing and 
really shows what the commercial industry can do in support of 
the space domain operation. So, I agree, I think it should be 
part of the, or it is today and it should continue to do so.
    Senator Kaine. General Dickinson, I am heartened to hear 
that, and I will just conclude and yield by time back by saying 
that Senator Gillibrand's question about creating norms in 
space becomes very important. The more we use either state-
based satellites or commercial satellites, nations all over the 
world are doing it, the more the prospect of collisions and 
then space debris affecting everybody else's investments become 
a real challenge.
    It is hard to imagine us continuing to be vigorous 
investors in space satellites all around the world without some 
kind of international norms where these investments are 
protected. So, the DOD's involvement, along with other parts of 
the U.S. Government in creating those norms is really 
important, and I was glad to hear your answer to Senator 
Gillibrand on that topic, as well.
    So, with that, thank you, and I yield back, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Let me recognize Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and, gentlemen, thank 
you so much for being here today and sharing your testimonies 
with us. Your commands do represent very crucial capabilities 
for our national defense, so thank you, again, for your input 
as we continue to develop different policies, whether it is 
strategic, nuclear deterrence, or, of course, space.
    So, making sure that we have the resources necessary is 
extremely important and, recently, Chief of Naval Operations, 
Admiral Mike Gilday, recently said, we need to innovate and we 
need to modernize. Early adoption of emerging and disruptive 
technologies, as well as the need to protect our infrastructure 
and technologies from strategic competitors is absolutely 
critical.
    I believe that is true, not only in the Navy, but also to 
our nuclear and space programs.
    So, Admiral Richard, as we are looking at the modernization 
of our nuclear triad, again, going back to those resources, 
there is going to be a tremendous price tag. I think we all 
recognize that, but can you discuss for us the margins for 
delay and the potential costs that we would face if we try to 
spread out these recapitalization efforts over a period of 
years within the nuclear triad, not really getting to the heart 
of the issue.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, one, thank you for the question, 
and, two, what I would start with is, we don't have an 
opportunity to spread these costs out, right. We have life-
extended to the maximum extent possible. So, to maintain the 
level of defense that we have historically assumed in this 
mission, right, to not take any further risks in this area, I 
need the first of these recapitalizations to start showing up 
on time. We don't have any further opportunity to do that.
    I do want to present that we can afford this as a nation, 
right. We only do this every 40 years. If you look at the 
context of what these decisions are and costs relative to all 
the other things this nation chooses to spend its money on, 
these are trivial, compared to that. This is a choice this 
nation makes as to how much risk it wants to take in this 
mission issue.
    I think this exactly what Secretary Madison meant when he 
said, we can afford survival.
    Senator Ernst. I think that is so brilliantly put.
    Not only can we afford it, we must afford this. I think 
that is a great way to say that, Admiral.
    So, talking a little bit more about the ICBMs, and if we 
were allowing the ICBM legs to atrophy, such that it is no 
longer a credible leg of the triad, what would that then mean 
to Russia and China, but also for our allies, and can you 
describe how our allies would react if we no longer had that 
viable ICBM leg.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, let me put it this way in terms 
of what it would do relative to Russia and China. I said that 
China is not yet able to execute every plausible nuclear 
employment strategy at intercontinental range. If I were to 
build a list of the top-five things the United States could do 
to accelerate China becoming a strategic peer of ours, number 
one or number two on the list is to get rid of our ICBMs, 
because you will have solved a problem that they can't 
currently solve right now. That would be the implication for 
that, and they can do the math and our allies can do the math 
and they will see that we are not backing up our words with our 
actions. We will lose credibility, and it will affect our 
extended-deterrence insurance.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, sir.
    General Dickinson, as well, as we talk about, you know, 
congestion in space, there are over 50 different space-faring 
nations and a number of space ventures, as you outlined in your 
opening remarks. Those will continue to climb.
    So, the risks and opportunities, what are those risks and 
opportunities that space congestion presents to the command and 
how do we overcome them?
    General Dickinson. Thank you.
    So, the risks to the command are that it is becoming more 
congested in terms of what I mentioned with the over 1300 
satellites, which is a good thing in terms of, you know, free-
market economy, commerce, space commerce, but it is becoming a 
more challenging problem. So, the risk becomes that it could 
become more unpredictable in space, more things to look at, 
more things to make sure that don't collide as they are in each 
of the orbits. But the benefit to that, I think, we can see, 
you know, the world economy, in particular, for space, is 
booming, and so, we need to do that, but we need to look at it 
as a domain like we looked in other domains in terms of how do 
we manage that to make sure that we have a safe and secure 
space domain.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you very much.
    I yield back. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Let me recognize Senator King, via Webex.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Dickinson, I would like to follow-up on Tim Kaine's 
question to a little bit about the security of our space 
assets. It seems to me that in a conflict, the very first thing 
that an enemy will try to do is a major cyberattack and to try 
to blind us.
    Senator Kaine talked about commercial satellites. Is 
redundancy, itself, a strategy for protecting the assets; in 
other words, lots and lots of small satellites rather than 
these large, multi-billion-dollar satellites that we have 
traditionally depended upon, but a redundant constellation of 
small satellites that would be harder to disable.
    Because, do you agree with me that going after our 
satellites would be one of the first things an adversary would 
do in a conflict?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator.
    So, my opinion on that is I believe the small satellites, 
many satellites in orbit provides us a very redundant, 
resilient capability. That would be very difficult to degrade 
once we have it established. It will provide us the ability to 
do many different types of missions, whether it is 
communications, whether it is ISR, whether it is missile-
warning; those types of activities, I think, will absolutely be 
more redundant, more resilient if we have, what I would call a 
mesh network, if you will, in a constellation.
    In terms of what would happen first, I believe we are in 
competition each day both, space and cyber, and for us, our 
ability to compete on a daily basis in the competition phase is 
very important to what we are doing. That could very well be 
the first, that you mentioned, could be a cyber attack followed 
by something in space. But we are watching that each and every 
day, and like I said, I think in terms of the redundancy, that 
is a great technique or opportunity.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    Admiral Richard, one of the scariest terms I have heard 
recently is escalate to de-escalate, which I understand is a 
stated policy of the Russians in terms of the use of tactical 
nuclear weapons in order to chock everyone into backing off.
    Is that something that concerns you in terms of our 
relationship to Russia and their relationship to nuclear 
weapons?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, yes, the short answer is yes. 
Actually, it may be thought of more as escalate to win, but not 
to mince words, and so, the whole idea here is for that and 
anything else they consider doing, to show that that won't 
work, right, that the costs that we could impose are greater 
than what they may gain by attempting that strategy, that is 
the essence of deterrence here and, in fact, the introduction 
of the low-yield ballistic missile weapon, I remind, we have 
always had a low-yield capability inside the arsenal. We just 
added one now that has a much higher probability of facing the 
threats that we have today. We think that that has successfully 
improved deterrence against that very strategy.
    Senator King. Well, to go back to Senator Rounds' question, 
the fundamental strategy here, and a lot of people, we have 
gone 25 or 30 years and not thought too much about nuclear 
weapons, but the whole idea is that those other countries that 
have nuclear weapons know that we do, too, and that we have the 
capability to inflict enormous damage on them if they use the 
nuclear weapons. That theory of deterrence has worked for 70 
years.
    I take it from your comments that you believe that 
modernization is critical to maintaining the credibility of the 
deterrent. It is not a deterrent unless your adversaries 
believe it will work, and isn't that the essential case for 
modernization?
    Admiral Richard. Absolutely, sir.
    Fundamentally, a deterrent is not credible unless the 
opponent or the other side does the calculation and comes up 
with, we can either deny that, missile defense is a good 
example of it, or we can impose a cost.
    It doesn't have to be a nuclear cost. We are thinking very 
hard. We are the only nation that can go all domain worldwide. 
I applaud the Secretary's efforts at improving cross-domain 
deterrence, but in the end, given the threats that we face, 
there has to be a nuclear component to it, because we don't 
have a combination of other things, yet, that can deter that.
    Senator Kaine. Well, the fundamental theory is that you 
have nuclear weapons in order to never have to use them. That 
is what it is all about, isn't it, Admiral?
    Admiral Richard. It is, and I have said that before, in 
that it is the only weapons system you don't have to pull the 
trigger on for it to work. The mere destructive potential of 
the system changes the way people think. It changes the 
decisions they make. That is what we mean by, we use it every 
day.
    Senator King. A very quick question, I am out of time, but 
a very quick question. If there were some serious threat, how 
long would it take to get the bombers aloft?
    Admiral Richard. Sir, it is a short period of time. I would 
prefer to answer that in closed session, if I could.
    Senator King. We will follow-up later. Thank you very much.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Cotton?
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, gentlemen, for your service and 
for your appearance.
    Admiral Richard, I want to speak about the Nuclear Posture 
Review, which is underway, as is the custom of administrations. 
I am concerned that low-level political appointees, a Deputy 
Assistant Secretary of Defense and Deputy Assistant Secretary 
of State may be subverting the integrity of Secretary Austin's 
review.
    Earlier this month, those political appointees gave an 
interview in Japanese media, implying the reduction of funding 
for our nuclear forces and, perhaps, even the enactment of a 
sole-purpose nuclear policy. Neither of those appointees, of 
course, have been confirmed by the
    United States Senate.
    Were either you or Secretary Austin consulted before they 
made these public comments?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, no. No one at STRATCOM or myself 
was consulted.
    Senator Cotton. Do you believe that it would be in the best 
interest of our Nation to go to a sole-purpose nuclear policy?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, no. I think, again, that that 
would remove a level of ambiguity that has had useful deterrent 
value to us. We have never, as a nation, chosen to do that.
    Senator Cotton. That would undermine our ability to deter, 
for instance, chemical or biological attacks if we use the 
sole-purpose policy?
    Admiral Richard. By policy, we would not consider a nuclear 
response to those types of threats.
    Senator Cotton. Do you think allies like the United Kingdom 
or Japan would like the United States to move to a sole-purpose 
policy?
    Admiral Richard. Sir, you know, in the end, I would have to 
defer to OSD policy, but my indications, conversations is there 
would be apprehension. It would depend on exactly how we worded 
it.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. Thank you for that.
    I hope the integrity of that Nuclear Posture Review is not 
subverted by low-level appointees who have never been reviewed 
by the Senate.
    I want to move to China. I know you have probably touched 
on some of these points, but I think there are a few questions 
that are more vital today. We know what Russia has. We know the 
threat Russia poses. They have posed it for 60 or 70 years.
    But I think China is a menacing and rapidly growing threat 
both, in terms of the quantity and the quality of their nuclear 
forces. Give a sense just how fast their increasing the 
quantity of their nuclear forces.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I just gave an order at STRATCOM 
2 weeks ago that any threat brief or any brief that is 
discussing China that is more than a month old must be updated 
with our intelligence folks because it is probably out of date. 
I can't get through a week right now without finding out 
something we didn't know about China.
    Senator Cotton. In terms of the quality of these forces, it 
is true that they are moving rapidly towards having a 
functioning nuclear triad, just like the United States and 
Russia, which is to say, bombers, submarines, and missiles; is 
that right?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, that is correct.
    Senator Cotton. On those ground-based forces, in some ways, 
their quality is more survivable and less detectible than ours 
since they are moving towards, say, sold-fuel rockets, which 
give you less warning, since you don't have to stand up the 
missiles and fill them with liquid fuel or road-mobile and 
road-mobile missiles, which can be moved around on the back of 
a tractor-trailer or a train, something this country doesn't 
use; is that right?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, that is correct.
    The road-mobiles of both, Russia and China are challenges 
to make sure that you can maintain accountability of them.
    Senator Cotton. It is hard to find a tractor-trailer with a 
missile on it in a country the size of China, which is as big 
as the United States, right?
    Admiral Richard. Both countries are very good at hiding 
them.
    Senator Cotton. You spoke something a few moments ago, and 
I just want to point out that you said that eliminating our 
ground-based missiles would be one of the best things that 
could happen to Chinese planners, and is that because the 
number of our missile systems complicate their targeting?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, that is correct. You would solve 
a problem right now that they don't have an answer to.
    Senator Cotton. Which is, to use a colloquial term, the 
missile sync, with all of our, I know you may not like to use 
that term, but with all of those missiles that we have out in 
the Midwest and the Rocky Mountain states and just the sheer 
quantity of targeted sites if you are Russia or China is very 
complicated to hit.
    Admiral Richard. It certainly requires a scale of attack 
that is, makes it very obvious what is going on, and part of 
why I don't like the term missile sync is there are a lot of 
things where we have forgotten how we got here. An example is 
bolt out of the blue, right. Highly improbable. We all agree 
with that. We would be the first to tell you that. We look at 
this risk every day.
    But we forget why it is improbable, right. We made it 
improbable as a nation. We invented the ballistic-missile 
submarine. We invented launch under warning, launch under 
attack. It is improbable because it probably won't work.
    We can easily take steps to make it more probable if we 
forget what it is that got us here.
    Senator Cotton. That is right, and that would be the case, 
not just if you took the radical step of eliminating an entire 
leg of our triad, the ground-based missiles, but even if you 
substantially reduced the amount of ground-based missiles; is 
that correct?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, fundamentally, I have got to have 
enough capacity, right, and I am now about to face an additive 
threat from China. These numbers that we have were based on a 
threat situation from years ago.
    So, I am apprehensive right now. Well, I certainly need 
everything that is in the program of record, if you want me to 
do what the President ordered me to.
    Senator Cotton. So, I will just conclude with a point I 
often make. We hear from some misguided and misinformed people 
on the left who might want to eliminate a leg of our triad or 
eliminate the entire nuclear forces. This fanciful idea that 
somehow we can rid the world of this weapons system.
    It is often said we spend so much on weapons we never use; 
to the contrary, we spend very little on these nuclear forces 
as a percentage of our Defense budget, certainly as a 
percentage of our overall economic. Second, we use these, every 
single day and we have used them every single day for 76 years 
to deter another war like the terrible wars of the first half 
of the 21st century.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton, via Webex.
    Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
our witnesses for being here.
    President Biden has expressed some concerns about the need, 
the affordability, and the safety of the Trump administration's 
nuclear weapons policy, and for good reason. The previous 
administration's modernization plans including items like a new 
sea-launched cruise missile and a low-yield warhead. Like any 
new administration, the President's team is taking some time to 
conduct its own review.
    So, Admiral Richard, you are the commander of U.S. 
Strategic Command. Whose job is it to determine the nuclear 
policy of the United States, your job or the President's job?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, it is the President's job. I am 
obligated to provide my best military advice.
    Senator Warren. I appreciate that.
    Do you agree that the new administration should be allowed 
to conduct its own review and that it shouldn't feel obligated 
or pressured to rubber-stamp the previous administration's 
plans?
    Admiral Richard. Ma'am, I absolutely agree with that.
    I also request an opportunity to make sure that that 
review, and in fact, I would broaden it. I, again, state that I 
think it is a mistake to think of deterrence in pieces, that 
nuclear is somehow separate from conventional, is somehow 
separate from space and cyber. You have to look at all of that. 
I would ask that it be fully threat-informed, and that I have 
an opportunity to provide the operational implications of 
potential policy choices.
    Senator Warren. But you are going to do the operational 
part here. The President does the policy part.
    I appreciate your saying this, because you made some 
comments early in January that puzzled and, frankly, concerned 
me on this score. On January 5, after President Trump had lost 
his bid for re-election, you told some reporters that the 
purpose of a forthcoming Biden administration review of nuclear 
weapons policy should, quote, validation that we like the 
strategy that we have.
    It also sounded like to me that you were saying that there 
was no reason to change course. You stated, quote, this nation 
has had basically the same strategy dating back to the Kennedy 
administration, end quote.
    So, now, it is your job to provide input and recommend 
options to the President and the Secretary if you are asked, 
but that doesn't mean making public comments to try to box in 
the President's decision-making. I understand that you believe 
you are operating well within the scope of your 
responsibilities, but I am concerned and I want a commitment 
from you that you are not going to infringe on or undermine the 
administration's review.
    Do I have your commitment on that?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, you absolutely do, and my 
reference to our strategy was not in relation to any one 
administration. I also said I can trace the lineage of our 
current strategy back to the Kennedy administration.
    The Nation can have any strategy that it wants and then 
that leads to a commensurate need for a stack of capabilities, 
policies, and postures to execute that strategy. I would just 
like to make sure that the Nation----
    Senator Warren. I appreciate that----
    Admiral Richard.--understands the risks it is taking in 
those decisions.
    Senator Warren. I appreciate that you will make that risk 
clear so that the President and the Secretary can work together 
to make a decision on this.
    You know, we are currently spending $44 and a half billion 
a year on nuclear weapons and I know that STRATCOM likes 
spending that money, but I don't. The purpose of the ongoing 
review is to, quote, reduce the role of nuclear weapons in our 
defense strategy, end quote. I agree with that goal and I think 
it is incompatible with that staggeringly high level of 
spending.
    Every administration makes administration makes strategic 
decisions about our force structure and modernization and when 
it comes to nuclear weapons, those decisions carry tremendous 
weight. As STRATCOM commander, your role is to support the U.S. 
Nuclear Doctrine that is set by the leaders elected to grapple 
with those decisions, not by military officials alone.
    So, I look forward to seeing the results of the 
administration's review and I know you will swiftly implement 
whatever they determine.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren.
    Senator Tillis, via Webex.
    Okay. Now, Senator Cramer.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, Generals, both for your service and for being 
here.
    I might just, well, I guess I feel compelled to follow-up 
on what Senator Warren was just talking about. One of the 
things that I have found frustrating often times is that the 
self-governed in this country, don't know what we know. A lot 
of times that is okay, but a lot of times it is not so okay.
    So, Generals, both of you, I appreciate the fact that you 
are both, that you both travel a lot throughout the country. 
You have both come to my state in your current positions, and 
that you both are willing to speak openly, but always, always 
respectfully about the threats that we face, because, quite 
honestly, I think one of the great threats in this country is 
when the people assume we know what we are talking about aren't 
aware of the threats. So, thank you for doing that. A well-
informed, several-governed country is the best.
    I guess I don't feel the need to ask any more questions 
about whether you support a triad versus something else, 
Admiral. I have appreciated your opening statement, as well as 
your answers to several questions, reaffirming the importance 
of all three legs of the triad.
    We have talked a lot. You have answered questions, 
specifically, of course, about the ground-based strategic 
deterrent and I appreciate that, and the fact that a delay in 
the modernization will cost both, money and perhaps security.
    So, let's move over to the LRSO. You know, our B-52s are 
incredible weapons, especially in the hands of our great airmen 
like we have in [inaudible], but I am afraid that we will be 
risking too much and asking too much of those airmen if we take 
away the LRSO and get it off-track.
    So, if the LRSO were cancelled or delayed beyond the 
service life of the legacy air-launch cruise missile, do you 
think our air leg of the triad would be viable or would it be 
compromised?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, the short answer is no. The 
bottom line is that without an LRSO, you, in effect, don't have 
an air leg or you have at least put it back to sort of a 1950's 
version of an air leg with much less capacity than they had 
back then.
    I do want to go a bit further. It is not only that it is 
almost a miracle that they all can fly, I think my predecessor 
General Hyten testified to that a couple of years ago. To think 
that a weapons system designed to go against Soviet analog 
defenses is going to be able to get through sophisticated 
Russian and Chinese defenses, I think is optimistic, and the 
outcome on its first day wasn't good enough for what we are 
going to need for it to do today. I can give you the details on 
that in closed session.
    It was designed for a different era. I need a modern weapon 
in order to do what I have been ordered to do.
    Senator Cramer. With limited time, I am wondering which of 
these last questions I want to ask, but I am going to continue 
on with the strategic deterrent commander. I know you are 
acutely aware that credible U.S. nuclear deterrence relies on 
uninterrupted nuclear command, control, and communications, the 
NC3 system, and that the mission depends on secure operational 
technologies, as well.
    The recent hack of the Florida water treatment facility 
certainly highlighted the cyber vulnerabilities of our OT 
system, a threat that is only exacerbated when you add in the 
NC3 component.
    Can you update the Committee on efforts of STRATCOM to 
ensure that cyber protection both, to the infrastructure and 
NC3 are on track.
    Admiral Richard. Sir, that is a very extensive answer.
    The things that we are doing, I will answer this, and I 
have a separate responsibility as the commander of the Nuclear 
Enterprise Center with the Department-wide responsibilities for 
nuclear command and control. Fundamentally, I am confident in 
our NC3 cyber resiliency. It exists in relative isolation. It 
has tremendous redundancy. It gets the best intelligence. We 
have an intelligence fusion center, thank you Congress for 
directing that, General Nakasone.
    So, everything that Space Command just mentioned that they 
get support for, we get that and additional abilities to 
maintain the standards here. The number-one thing I need to do 
to be able to say that in the future is that I have to 
modernize the system, right. I have to get it out of legacy 
modes of operation in order to pace this threat going into the 
future, but I am confident today.
    Senator Cramer. To both of you, and I will start with you, 
General Dickinson, in addition to the Bomber Wing and the 
Missile Wing at Minot, of course, North Dakota contributes by 
having the 10th Space Warning Squadron at Cavalier. Maybe this 
is a good opportunity for me to ask both of you, but, again, 
starting with General Dickinson, how do the two commands work 
together to enhance the credibility of U.S. deterrence against 
adversaries who are competing with us, really, in every domain?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator.
    So, that missile-warning architecture is a very integrated 
capability within U.S. Space Command. We provide that missile 
warning to U.S. Strategic Command on a daily basis and we work 
very closely together. I mean, in general, as you know, 
Senator, we respond out of U.S. Strategic Command when we stood 
up U.S. Space Command, and so, our daily interaction, our daily 
operations together is very nested and synchronized.
    Senator Cramer. I thank both of you.
    Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer.
    Via Webex, Senator Manchin.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it.
    Thanks to both of you for your service to our country and 
the commitment by your families for their service. I think they 
need to be commended, also.
    The first question I want will go to both of you, but 
Admiral Richard, with the current and planned advancements in 
missile technology, such as hypersonics from our adversaries, 
defense of the homeland can no longer be taken for granted. So, 
my question would be, Admiral Richard, would you tell me about 
the adequacy of our current missile-defense batteries, like the 
Ground-Based Interceptors, the PAC-3 missile, and [inaudible] 
platforms.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I would, in the end, defer to the 
operational commanders of those systems. For example, for 
Ground-Based Interceptor, that is Northern Command; however, 
from my vantage point, in terms of my mission sense and my 
overall responsibility in missile defense for advocating and 
operation support, we have an adequate missile defense today. 
We do need to make sure that we pace it into the future against 
the threats that we are seeing.
    The number-one thing that I would prioritize is both, the 
ability to warn and the ability to track birth-to-death, 
because it is not only the defensive pieces to it, that is 
missile defense. On the missile-warning side, I need to be able 
to posture forces and posture people in advance of the threat 
or I have to take other operational decisions over.
    Senator Manchin. General Dickinson, if you could tell me 
how STRATCOM and SPACECOM are working to integrate future 
missile-defense technologies, like a Space Sensor Layer with 
our current systems to maintain global awareness, and the 
quickest reaction possible to these threats.
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator.
    So, we work very closely hand-in-hand with U.S. Strategic 
Command and all the other combatant commands in terms of the 
integrating, as I mentioned earlier in terms of taking existing 
terrestrial-type radars that have not necessarily been used 
before, particularly in the space domain, but in this 
particular vignette with hypersonics. We continue to look at 
the integration of those assets.
    We are also working very closely with the Missile Defense 
Agency in growing capabilities on orbit that will help us 
address that problem, our dilemna with hypersonic weapons.
    Senator Manchin. Admiral Richard, your testimony states the 
next generation of deterrent forces must encompass responsive 
weapons systems, world-class personnel, resilient 
infrastructure, and intelligence-informed decisions.
    Can you describe the steps that you have taken or 
relationships that you have established, to ensure the timely 
and initiate flow of intelligence in order to provide decision-
makers with accurate, timely information that is going to be 
needed to make these decisions.
    Admiral Richard. So, a number of steps. Again, I am 
fortunate in terms of the priority that is given to strategic 
deterrence intelligence needs by the intelligence community. I 
have a number of relationships and a number of liaisons. I 
mean, as one example, I have 300 Defense Intelligence Agency 
personnel assigned to STRATCOM headquarters as part of our 
ability to go do that.
    Additionally, we have a specific stack of strategic 
intelligence requirements that have been given to the 
intelligence community and I receive great support in terms of 
that.
    Senator, if I could real quick, I just want to add, going 
back to the missile-defense piece, because it has been asked a 
couple of times. We are very satisfied with the way that Space 
Command has taken over the sensor commander function, right, by 
utilizing sensors across missile-warning, missile-defense, and 
space situational awareness. I am actually getting better 
missile-warning data and the Nation is getting better 
utilization of the assets that it purchased.
    Senator Manchin. Well, that will go right into General 
Dickinson. As we all know, the availability of speed and 
communicating data are and always will remain a vulnerability 
for our forces, and with the ease of optical or tightbeam 
communications, utilizing lasers in a space environment, that 
speed is increased substantially.
    So, the question would be, that is very impressive, but how 
is SPACECOM working to bring that speed of communications back 
down to Earth as we may speak?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, that is, what we are 
currently working with, I think some of the work that General 
VanHerck has done in all-domain awareness, I fully support the 
efforts that he is undertaking, as well as the Department in 
terms of increasing our able to communicate at speed so that we 
can make the proper decisions at the proper time.
    What we are doing at U.S. Space Command is kind of looking 
at the current command and control systems that handle these 
volumes of information and we are looking at ways that we can 
integrate those capabilities to provide an all-domain 
capability where we can see and do and act with speed of 
relevance to the situation at hand.
    So, we are looking at existing command and control 
architectures that we can leverage. We already have a very 
robust one in the space domain, but we continue to look and how 
we can leverage all of them together in an all-domain fashion.
    Senator Manchin. Okay. I just want to thank both of you, 
Admiral Richard and General Dickinson. Thank you, both, for 
your service, again, and thank you for being here today.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin.
    Now let me recognize, via Webex, Senator Tillis.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Gentlemen, thank you for being here and your years of 
service.
    Admiral Richard, I want to start with you. I was in the 
Committee room when you gave your opening statement and towards 
the end you were talking about how we are losing our advantage 
and you want on to say that we could reach a point to where no 
amount of money would allow us to catch back up.
    Would you go back and give a little bit broader context to 
the specific areas that you think that that threat is real and 
maybe over what sort of timeline if we don't have adequate 
resources or authorities, that we could reach that tipping 
point.
    Admiral Richard. So, Senator, what drives me to say that in 
the opening statement is the observation that we have delayed 
this recapitalization so long that we are getting to points, 
key pieces of infrastructure or key talent areas, human talent 
areas where we have not had to do something in 30 years. The 
best examples are on the weapons complex side of the house 
right now. There will be more in the delivery system and the 
command and control that shortly follow.
    It is a situation that we don't normally face as a nation. 
Normally, when we make a decision, and if we find out we were 
wrong, we can come back 2 or 3 years later and buy it back. We 
can change our minds. We have to write a bigger check. We try 
to avoid doing it, but at least we can.
    We are now at the point that if we lose some critical 
pieces of infrastructure or we lose some key talent bases, a 
specific example would be how you make a nuclear reentry 
vehicle heat shield, right, we haven't done it in 30 years.
    You would think we had never done it before. If we lose 
those talent bases, you can't buy it back. It will take 5 to 10 
years to either retrain and redevelop the people or rebuild the 
infrastructure. We don't normally face decisions like that.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you.
    General Dickinson, you mentioned 32,000 space objects out 
there. I think you said somewhere on the order of about 7,000 
are operational.
    I have been reading a lot of articles on space junk and the 
dangers that they could pose to the International Space 
Station, commercial assets. How much of solving that problem, 
our emphasis on it, and how many resources are actually 
dedicated to that?
    I think Senator Shaheen touched on it, but is this the 
threat that I perceive it to be, based on publications of the 
last month or so?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, that is a mission area 
within the command that we do every day. It is about 32,000. It 
grows, as we see, with the commercialization, if you will, of 
space with multiple [inaudible] companies now moving into the 
space domain. It is something that we do and we do a very good 
job at that, in terms of making sure that we are able to 
predict where we may have a problem with either a conjunction 
or a collision on orbit.
    We have a very close relationship with NASA. To your 
mention of the International Space Station, a very close 
working relationship, where we provide them with that 
information and they use that information to do, take whatever 
actions they may feel is appropriate to maintain a safe 
environment for the astronauts and cosmonauts onboard the 
International Space Station.
    But it is one that we spend a lot of time doing each and 
every day.
    Senator Tillis. Going forward, I followed Starlink since 
they first set up the first dishwasher-sized satellites to 
provide broadband, ubiquitous broadband. I read a report 
earlier this week that while they are topping a thousand on 
orbit now, their goal is to have over 40,000 on orbit.
    How are we working in the commercial space to make sure 
that we are sequencing more object in space with the goal of 
not making it more difficult for you to do your job? To what 
extent would you play a role, if any, in the commercial 
decisions and permitting to allow more to go on orbit that 
create a more complex challenge for you?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, my responsibilities lie in 
predicting and understanding where those objects are or the 
satellites are. The actual interaction with the commercial 
company on how they should conduct a space launch or on-orbit 
activities with their satellites really kind of goes back to a 
licensing capability or a licensing process that I believe the 
FAA actual conducts with each of those companies before they 
launch.
    Senator Tillis. Then, my remaining time, I am kind of 
curious about how SPACECOM and STRATCOM are going to work 
together to create a credible U.S. deterrent, particularly, 
when we seem to be challenged in every domain. So, how are your 
two commands working together to face up against those threats?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, I will answer that first 
and then I will turn it over to my shipmate here, Admiral 
Richard, but we work every day with that. One of the notable 
things within the U.S. Space Command is the stand up of our 
joint fires element within the command that actually does that 
deterrent-type of work in terms of the space domain.
    But we are very integrated with the rest of the combatant 
commands to include U.S. Strategic Command and that daily 
activity in terms of deterrence, not only in the space domain, 
but in all the other domains. Because as the Secretary of 
Defense has asked us and told us to do is that deterrence is 
not just one domain; it is all domains, all the time, and so, 
our synchronization and coordination of those activities, in 
particular, on orbit, and then for the other pieces, the other 
domains is very fundamental. But our relationship and 
synchronization with U.S. Strategic Command is very close.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you.
    Admiral Richard. Yes, Senator, if I could just add, not 
only to endorse everything that General Dickinson just said, 
but Chairman Milley and Vice Chairman Hyten have made it really 
clear, it is not just our two co-coms; it is all co-coms, 
right. We are driving hard towards global integration both, in 
planning and operations. We see that as a necessary way forward 
into the future.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis.
    Let me now recognize Senator Rosen, via Webex.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed and Ranking Member 
Inhofe, for holding this important hearing.
    I would also like to thank Admiral Richard and General 
Dickinson for testifying today and, of course, I am grateful 
for their service to our country.
    But I would like to speak a little bit about explosive 
nuclear weapons testing, because last May, the prior 
administration was reportedly considering resuming explosive 
nuclear weapons at the Nevada National Security Site, the only 
facility in the Nation equipped to accommodate underground 
nuclear testing. This is for the first time since 1992.
    Nevadans do not want to return to a time when explosive 
nuclear testing was allowed in our state. It puts the health 
and safety of Nevadans in jeopardy.
    So, to prevent this outcome, Senator Cortez Masto and I 
introduced legislation requiring congressional approval before 
any future explosive nuclear weapons testing were to take 
place.
    So, Admiral Richard, you told the Senate Armed Services 
Committee last year that there is no condition under which you 
would recommend the need for renewed nuclear testing.
    Can you confirm for me, please, today, that there is no 
current need for a resumption of explosive testing in Nevada or 
elsewhere, to ensure the reliability of our nuclear arsenal.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, as you know, I am obligated by 
Congress to report on my assessment of the combat-readiness of 
the stockpile. That includes an assessment on the need for 
nuclear weapons testing.
    So, you are correct. I have certified the stockpile. I do 
it annually in writing, and I have stated that there are no 
identified conditions at this point that would require nuclear 
weapons testing to restore that confidence.
    But I further stated in it that I am concerned about the 
Nation's test-readiness and that I endorsed the lab director's 
calls, the NNSA, nuclear weapons labs, for a national review of 
our test-readiness to understand where we sit.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I would like to build on that and 
ask if you agree that a resumption in explosive nuclear 
testing, which would violate longstanding, international norms, 
might provide other nations with an incentive to resume their 
own explosive nuclear testing activities and, more broadly, 
would impact global peace and security.
    So, what are you thinking in that realm?
    Admiral Richard. Ma'am, I would defer the political 
implications of a nuclear weapons test to OSD policy or the 
State Department. I think from a technical standpoint, a bigger 
driver in terms of any nation's decision to conduct a test has 
to do with what level of confidence do they have that their 
nuclear weapons will work to their standards and what other 
mechanisms they may have; in other words, how much confidence 
do they want and by what means do they want to get it.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I will move on, but I will just 
reiterate, we want no nuclear explosive testing in Nevada or 
anywhere across this country.
    But I would like to build now on what Senator Gillibrand 
spoke about earlier, a cyber mission in space. It is no secret, 
of course as anyone knows, our adversaries see the value of the 
space domain, developing counterspace capabilities to undermine 
our interests. So, this week, I plan to introduce with Senator 
Blackburn, legislation to build a civilian cybersecurity 
reserve to ensure additional cyber capacity at our times of 
greatest need.
    So, General Dickinson, does the newest branch of the 
military, do you currently possess the necessary workforce to 
fulfill your cyber mission effectively, and how can we help 
support your needs in growing the workforce?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator.
    In terms of the cyber piece that you mentioned earlier, I 
would say that is probably General Jay Raymond's avenue or area 
in terms of what the service, the Space Force provides.
    But as a combatant commander, I can tell you that I have 
the resources that I need right now and I am confident in our 
ability to protect my space missionaries, my critical space 
missionaries that I do each and every day.
    My relationship with Cyber Command in terms of working with 
Paul Nakasone and his team, is very close. As the newest 
combatant command, I have gotten resource that I have 
determined that I need in order to have a resilient cyber 
capability or protection within the missionaries, I will have 
today.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you.
    I was able to, last year, help get the PROMOTES Act passed, 
which has a junior ROTC STEM track now and we hope that that 
will help grow our young men and women as they join JROTC early 
to help build all of our capabilities and technology in the 
military. Thank you.
    I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rosen.
    Let me recognize Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman.
    Admiral Richard, I read your op-ed from February and I 
appreciate your candid assessment of the challenges we face 
regarding Communist China.
    Have you seen anything with regard to behavior, military 
spending, posturing, and public statements that lead you to 
believe that Communist China has any interest in cooperating 
with other countries on nuclear weapons?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I have not. They have a very 
opaque policy. It makes it difficult to determine anything 
about what their intentions are, but I certainly have not seen 
anything that looks like cooperation.
    Senator Scott. If we don't spend sufficiently to modernize 
our nuclear forces and Communist China achieves its goal of 
having an effective nuclear triad by the middle of this decade, 
what are we facing in terms of defending United States 
interests in the Indo-Pacific Region and beyond?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, it would be two things, one of 
which is they could use those capabilities coercively in a way 
that would limit our decision space in crisis; additionally, it 
will rip out the underpinnings, by which all the rest of our 
forces are employed, right. We would not be able to deter China 
from simply escalating right past us if the stakes were high 
enough in a crisis or conflict.
    Senator Scott. So, the value of having forces in South 
Korea and Japan would be just wasteful. There would be no 
ability to help them.
    Admiral Richard. We would be the first to tell you that 
those forces are important, but you have to backstop them with 
a strategic deterrent to dissuade the opponent from attempting 
to do something like that.
    Senator Scott. Thank you.
    General Dickinson, are we on pace, given what we expect 
from the President's budget to be able to defeat Chinese and 
Russian goals in space?
    There is no question they each want to dominate in this 
area, and do you believe that we will be able to stop them, 
given our current spending plans and policy?
    General Dickinson. Senator, I think at this point, we are 
on a glide path to that capability. Our ability to protect and 
defend on orbit is that those capabilities and capacities are 
growing, and I think that is very important as we look to the 
future. But to answer your question, I think we are on a glide 
path.
    Senator Scott. So, do you believe that going forward, that 
we are going to be expected, like the President's budget 
doesn't have much of an increase in Defense spending, do you 
think we are going to, that is going to be enough to pursue the 
goals that you have?
    General Dickinson. Well, so, for the command over the last 
year, we have done our first analysis of the requirements, if 
you will, for the combatant command, and I have delivered those 
requirements to the Department of Defense, as well as the 
services, and in those requirements, I have identified my 
priority in terms of developing better space domain awareness 
in terms of being able to understand what is happening in the 
space domain, to characterize that, and to understand what our 
adversaries and competitors are doing there.
    So, in terms of the budget for this year, I think it is 
satisfactory for what we are doing right now.
    Senator Scott. Admiral Richard, do you think we are clear 
enough about our relationship with Taiwan and our interest in 
making sure they remain, you know, independent of Communist 
China?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, ultimately, I would defer to the 
Department of State and OSD policy in terms of what is the best 
course of action there.
    What I am committed to doing is making sure that the United 
States military has the ability to set the appropriate 
operating conditions and deter Chinese strategic capabilities 
to allow us those options for the rest of the force and the 
Nation.
    Senator Scott. So, if we are in the position that we 
believe that we can deter them from doing something, why are 
they doing all the flyovers now? Why is Communist China doing, 
taking the aggressive action they are taking against Taiwan 
right now?
    Admiral Richard. Sir, fundamentally, I would defer. You 
would have to ask China that question, right, but that is a 
point that gets back to deterrences linked, right. We have to 
pay attention all the way down into thresholds below 
conventional armed conflict to make sure that we are putting 
these things on the right trajectory in the long term.
    Senator Scott. I want to thank both of you and thank all 
the men and women that serve with you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Scott.
    Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Admiral Richard, thank you for your testimony, General 
Dickinson.
    I would like to discuss for a couple of minutes, the 
ground-based strategic deterrent effort. The program to replace 
the Minuteman-III and its command and control system is 
significant. Often, large programs like this are threatened 
when there is budgetary pressure.
    Now, my understanding is that there is not a cost-effective 
way to modernize the Minuteman-III and that the 60-year-old 
missile needs to be replaced.
    Can you explain in detail, Admiral Richard, why that is, 
and what new capability are we going to get with GBSD.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, first, I would offer the 
Department has sent several pretty detailed reports to Congress 
that go into that, and so I would refer to those.
    But biggest picture, I need a weapon that can fly and make 
it to the target. Minuteman-III is increasingly challenged in 
its ability to do that. There is almost no possibility of an 
upgrade on that, relative to the threat.
    In particular, I would draw attention to the cyber 
capabilities, right. Minuteman-III is a very old system that we 
have to be able to cyber defend, and the GBSD will come with a 
great improvement inside its cyber defenses, as well as the 
overall operational availability, redundancy and reliability of 
its command and control.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you.
    The Russians have been modernizing their systems. Can you 
highlight some of the upgrades that they have been making in 
delivery system, command and control, and their warning 
systems, just top-level.
    Admiral Richard. I mean, Senator, they, across the board, 
are operating new equipment. They are on their second 
generation of a new ballistic-missile submarine. They have a 
new ballistic missile for that; it is quite capable. They have 
a very impressive, sold-fueled intercontinental ballistic 
missile, brand new. They have new road-mobile missiles. They 
have up-gunned their bombers. They have new weapons off their 
bombers. This is in addition to the novel capabilities that I 
described in my opening statement. They have new command and 
control. They have new warning. They are exercising at a level 
we haven't seen since the Cold War. President Putin plays in 
those exercises, and we are seeing readiness levels like we 
have not seen before. So, is an across-the-board, comprehensive 
improvement in their strategic capabilities; again, about 80 
percent complete right now.
    Senator Kelly. On the B61 Mod 12 program underway, going to 
give us more accuracy of smaller CEP for that weapon and that 
weapon system. Do you see this mod of the B61 being able to 
last here for the next 20 years or so or do you see a point 
where we are going to have to find a new air-launched, 
ballistic bomb?
    Admiral Richard. So, for the B61, right, I do think that 
modernization program will serve our well going into the 
future. That is a gravity weapon, as you well know, and that 
is, in particular, of importance to NATO, in terms of our 
extended deterrence and assurance commitments. So, I am 
satisfied that that weapons system is going to serve us well.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Admiral.
    General Dickinson, when we spoke last week, we discussed 
the importance of cooperation and communication with other 
space-faring nations to deal with the common challenges that we 
face with orbital debris, a challenge I had to deal with 
myself, personally, on a number of occasions. You know, these 
communications are critical for advanced warning, as well, test 
launches with competitors like Russia and China.
    I want to, just in the remaining time in your view, you 
know, how good are the current structures for communications 
with Russia and China concerning orbital debris, but also, when 
they launch unexpectedly, it could be to put payloads in orbit, 
and if the communications systems are not adequate, what could 
we do right now to improve those?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, we, as I mentioned----
    Chairman Reed. Microphone, please.
    General Dickinson. So, we communicate with our competitors 
in terms of what is going on in the space domain.
    Could it be better?
    Yes, it could be better. But we communicate to them 
electronically through a website called space.org that has a 
catalog or has information on there that we can alert them to a 
potential collision in space. So, we do communicate in that 
way, but I do believe that we could improve upon that as we go 
forward.
    Senator Kelly. That would be true for a test launch, as 
well?
    General Dickinson. Yes, it would be for test launches, as 
well, so that we can make sure that we understand intention, as 
well as what activity they may be doing in the space domain so 
that we can ensure that we provide a safe environment for space 
operations.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, General.
    General Dickinson. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to both of 
you, thank you for your testimony here today and your service 
to our country.
    General Dickinson, in your opening remarks, you addressed 
space-situational awareness in the context of your work with 
the Department of Commerce and its open-architecture data 
repository. So, my question to you is, could you ever foresee 
space-situational awareness being a wholly Commerce function 
with Space Command playing a supporting role, and if not, why?
    General Dickinson. I think as we look to the future and, 
really, the current situation that we have now, as I mentioned, 
32,000 pieces of debris, objects on orbit. As we move forward, 
I do believe that we will see that as a, or we should see that 
as a purely administrative type of function in terms of 
tracking objects in the space domain.
    My job at the U.S. Space Command is to not only understand 
that, but also be able to characterize what we are seeing in 
the space domain so we can understand what our adversaries' 
intention may be and their capabilities. But I see in the 
future that as we move towards that, that that could be a 
wholly administrative-type function, similarly to what the FAA 
does right now, in terms of making sure the air domain is safe.
    Senator Peters. So, if that would be a Commerce function, 
you would be supportive of that, as long as you are playing the 
role that you mentioned?
    General Dickinson. Yes.
    Senator Peters. On the same topic, in 2020 alone, I any 
Senator Kelly mentioned his involvement with it in space, as 
well, but the International Space Station had to perform three 
maneuvers to being hit by space debris.
    Has the command, your command undertaken any initiatives to 
contend with space debris by participating in commercial 
efforts, such as the LSAD launch that occurred last month?
    General Dickinson. We are looking at those types of 
opportunities right now, because that could contribute to our 
ability to understand the domain better.
    Senator Peters. Very good, and, as well, General, I have 
another question for you. Much like the economy at large, our 
operations in space are going to be facilitated not by just the 
purchase and the operation of hardware, but also the 
utilization of services that will allow us to maintain a robust 
presence in space.
    For example, in Michigan, we have a company called ATLAS 
Space Operations in Traverse City that is involved in the 
assistance of launch operations, communications, other types of 
services, and they are doing very innovative work in that area. 
Under your command, how is SPACECOM utilizing private sector 
partners, who can provide a variety of these kinds of 
capabilities?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, out at Vandenberg Air Force 
Base, which is part of the U.S. Space Command, we have a 
Commercial Integration Cell where we are working every day with 
the commercial industry in terms of understanding capabilities 
that they are bringing online, as well as on-orbit type of 
activities. I think we have close to 90 different companies 
that we work with out there.
    Senator Peters. Great.
    Admiral Richard, in your opening remarks, you described the 
submarine-launched nuclear missile as necessary to address 
regional deterrence challenges from both, China and Russia, but 
increasing the flexibility, in your words, quote, providing a 
more credible deterrent to a limited attack against the United 
States, end of quote.
    Could you explain what you mean by, quote, more credible, 
and does a submarine-launched cruise missile fill that 
capability gap to our extended deterrence posture?
    Admiral Richard. So, sir, when I say more credible, that 
was in relationship to the low-yield, submarine-launched 
ballistic missile aspect of that. You can't deter if you can't 
get to the target, and that weapons system has a better ability 
to do that it. It makes it more credible in the eyes of the 
other party.
    The second part, on the sea-launched cruise missile, it 
goes after more the large disparity that we have in non-treaty 
accountable weapons between us and the Russians. I use that 
term very specifically. Sometimes, they are used as strategic 
versus non-strategic. I think that distinction is increasingly 
irrelevant and a large number of so-called strategic weapons 
are a direct threat to the homeland, in addition to our forces 
regionally, and to our allies.
    The sea-launched cruise missile would give us an ability to 
not rely on host nation's support and give us an ability to, 
again, provide an effective counter to the disparity that we 
see in non-treaty accountable weapons.
    Senator Peters. Well, as you know very well, deterrence 
depends on capability, on credibility, and communication, and 
when a Virginia-class submarine launches a Tomahawk cruise 
missile into Syria, for example, China, Russia, and other 
nuclear powers can now credibly recognize that such launches 
are carrying conventional munitions.
    My question is, if attack submarines reacquire the 
capability to launch nuclear weapons, then, does that mean that 
Beijing and Moscow will need to worry about every missile 
launch within the range of their territories, and are you 
concerned, therefore, that this added ambiguity might lead to 
some sort of miscalculation?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, what I would offer is I think 
that it is a fundamental error to try to determine what the 
payload is on any weapons system by assigning it to a 
particular trajectory. You can make any trajectory carry any 
payload.
    The Nation has long had a cruise missile, nuclear cruise 
missile capability. Russia and China, or Russia has it today.
    So, the idea that we will somehow sort out what a threat 
is, based on its profile, I think, is a flawed idea to begin 
with and we certainly don't characterize anything based on the 
flight profile coming at us.
    Senator Peters. Great. Thank you, Admiral.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    I recognize Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and, gentlemen, 
thank you for your service and your testimony today.
    You know, I was in a hearing last week, an oversight 
hearing, and one of my colleagues on the other side of the 
aisle was kind of putting out this number of 10 percent, his 
estimate of the military was extremist, racist. I think in my 
experience, and I am still serving in the Marine Corps 
Reserves, that number is absurdly high. It wasn't based on any 
data. That would make about two hundred or 250,000 members of 
the Active force supposedly fitting within that category, which 
I think is a disparagement of our men and women in the 
military. I got a little heated in that hearing last week, 
because I am really tired of hearing about, you know, what, 
supposedly is all the bad things about the members of the 
military, when I think it is some of the finest young men and 
women in America serving, volunteering to serve.
    Is that your experience, 10 percent, 1 in 10, 250,000 
active-duty forces are somehow extremist, racist?
    It is an absurd number, but it gets thrown around in the 
newspaper, and I am trying to get the men and women, like you, 
who is served for decades to kind of give me your view.
    Admiral, General, I know that is not the purpose of the 
hearing, but I think it is really important, particularly for 
the men and women that you are leading, and that we have 
oversight of, to let them know that we don't think a huge 
majority of the force is extremist; obviously, some of my 
Senate colleagues do, which I think is absurd.
    Can I get your view on that.
    Admiral Richard. Let me go first on that one. I am very 
confident that the number of extremists in my forces is zero 
and let me explain why I say that.
    The Department has made it clear for decades that we don't 
tolerate that. My forces are a little bit different.
    We have certainly done everything Secretary Austin has told 
us to do. He has made it very clear what the standards are, but 
it is reiterating a standard.
    Every person in my organization has to have a security 
clearance, for starters, right. When you fill that form out, 
and I have been filling it out for 40 years, there is an 
extensive battery of questions designed to get after that very 
point. Then somebody goes and investigates you, and then they 
go talk to all of your references, and then they go talk some 
more, hunting for that very thing.
    We don't care what the source of extremism was. Those date 
back to Communism is actually what they were looking for when I 
first came in, and today they will even go look at your social 
media. If you can't pass that part, I don't even see you. Then 
on top of that, in my forces, we have a personnel reliability 
program for these. So, you now have peer-monitoring brought in 
and a number of other standards.
    So, if there are any extremists in my organization, one, 
they hide it very well, and, two, it is just a matter of time 
until I get to them.
    Senator Sullivan. So, you are saying that you agree with 
me, these are some of the best men and women in America and to 
be besmirched by the media or a senator, 10 percent is 
ridiculous.
    Admiral Richard. Sir, I will just explain what the standard 
is that we uphold. It is contrary to the Uniform Code of 
Military Justice. It is essential for good order and 
discipline, and my forces meet the highest standard of that, 
that DOD requires.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. General, your view on this?
    I know you have a lot of experience, given your decades in 
the U.S. Army.
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator.
    So, in my organization, a very similar organization to the 
U.S. Strategic Command. So, space, as we all understand, and I 
know we have talked about it many times in terms of the 
classification or the security clearances that are required 
within my organization to be able to do the things that we do 
in the space domain and terrestrially. We have the same rigor 
in terms of some of the questions that are asked during their 
security clearances in terms of getting them to the proper 
clearance level so they can perform their duties within my 
command.
    I would tell you right now that we have done everything 
that Secretary Austin has asked us to do in terms of training 
and awareness, but in my organization, I would say that number 
is zero. We are very keen and aware of these types of 
activities or what would lead to those, and we understand that 
very well.
    So, in terms of years of experience, yes, I would tell you 
that in the formations that I have had throughout my career, I 
have not seen that. So, I believe that it is close to zero in 
my organization, if not zero.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you.
    But nothing nearing 10 percent. Ridiculous, in my view, 
but, obviously, you guys, you gentlemen would agree.
    Let me just ask one final question. Admiral, it is for you. 
As the North Koreans continue advancement of their weapons 
systems, what can we do, are you concerned it is going to 
outpace our ability to defend the United States Homeland, I am 
talking about the GBI system, and what can we do to accelerate 
development of the next generation of interceptor, and does it 
make sense to have 20 empty silos right now at Fort Greely?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, one, I think the Nation has the 
right standard and policy when it comes to missile defense 
relative to rogue threats, with North Korea right now being the 
defining example of that. Obviously, that is something we may 
go review, but right now, I would start off with, I think that 
is the right pace.
    We will have to pace that threat. I certainly support 
Northern Command's requirements to be able to do so and would 
look for the Department, understanding resource limitations and 
other mission sets that are in competition for us to maintain 
that standard in terms of our missile defenses.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Blumenthal, are you prepared? Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you both for being here. Thank you for your 
extraordinary service.
    Admiral Richard, we have interacted before on a number of 
submarine-related events and I thank you for your service, 
particularly in that area.
    General Dickinson, thank you for embarking on this very 
promising, important new area.
    At a recent hearing, I expressed my concern about white 
supremacist actions and extremism in our military and I want to 
just be clear that I said at a prior hearing, it was a very 
small percentage of our troops that potentially were involved 
in these activities.
    I am sure it is well under 10 percent, as I believe I 
indicated then, but I think any percentage of white supremacist 
or violent extremism in our military is intolerable and 
unacceptable. I hope you both agree.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I certainly agree with that, 
right, that extremism, you are either on team Constitution or 
you are not, and if you are not, you have no place in our 
military.
    General Dickinson. Senator, I agree, as well. There is no 
place for it in our military today.
    Senator Blumenthal. As you know better than all of us, 
General, much of the operational information utilized within 
SPACECOM remains very highly classified and is often 
restrictive in terms of access. I have been an advocate in many 
other areas of sharing more information with the American 
public so that they understand the threats and the risks in 
this area. Right now, I think there is almost no awareness 
among the American public.
    What can be done to make the American public better 
informed and aware of the challenges, to use a euphemism, that 
exists in your domain?
    General Dickinson. Senator, thanks for that we.
    I would say that is probably, in my words, one of the most 
visible things that U.S. Space Command has done over the last 
20 months, in that we have been able to articulate and call-out 
some of the activities that we have seen in orbit that we would 
determine, at a minimum, dangerous; at a maximum, or the other 
end of the scale, as threatening.
    What I am describing is what we have seen over the last 
year, 2019 and 2020, with the on-orbit activities of the 
Russians, in terms of conducting an on-orbit anti-satellite 
test, as well as a ground-based missile, anti-satellite test 
that was threatening or demonstrating a capability that they 
have.
    In other words, Senator, our ability to be able to discuss 
that, like we do in many other domains, air, land, and sea, is 
very important to what we do, and really working very closely 
with the intel community, we have been able to do that.
    So, in terms of classification and being able to declassify 
that so that we are able to communicate and talk not only to 
the American public about it, but also our allies and partners 
around the world to make sure that we understand what they are 
building and what their future intent could be.
    Senator Blumenthal. That was my next question.
    Do you think that there are procedures for declassifying 
information that make our ability to share information with our 
allies and partners operational?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, we are working that every 
day. Just the fact, last year, that we were able to come out 
publicly and describe what I just mentioned about their on-
orbit activities is a big step in the right direction.
    We continue to work within the Department, as well as 
within the intel community, so that we can continue to do that 
and do it more frequently.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, gentlemen, both of you for being here. Thank you 
for your many years of service to our country.
    Admiral, can I start with you, and I want to talk about 
little bit about the B-2 Whiteman Air Force Base in my home 
state of Missouri, of course is proudly home to the B-2 bomber. 
In your testimony, you wrote that the B-2, and I am quoting you 
now, is the only heavy-payload, penetrating stealth bomber in 
the world, able to hold at risk, heavily defended, hard, and 
deeply buried targets.
    I just want to give you an opportunity to talk about why 
this is so important for our strategic deterrence and what it 
is we need to do to ensure that the B-2 continues to be 
effective until the B-21 comes fully online.
    Admiral Richard. Well, sir, that summarized it, in terms 
of, that is the only capability that we have to hold certain 
targets at risk that are very important in our ability to deter 
that, right. It is known that that weapons system can do that. 
That changes decision calculus of people that we are trying to 
deter.
    I applaud Air Force efforts, right, to maintain the B-2 all 
the way through, with its full range of capabilities, while 
simultaneously taking all the steps necessary to bring the B-21 
in on time, such that the Nation maintains this capability 
going into the future.
    Remember, in addition to its penetration capabilities, one 
key aspect that the bomber leg adds is its flexibility; the 
fact that we can move it all over the place. That provides a 
deterrent benefit.
    It certainly provides assurance to allies. You see us doing 
that with these forces today, and it is signaling. It is 
visible, right. We can directly show our, it is the best way we 
have to directly show our resolve as a nation by what we do 
with this piece of the triad.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you.
    Let's talk about China a little bit. You said earlier today 
that what it is going to take to deter China is going to start 
to be additive to what we have to do with Russia. Can you just 
elaborate a little bit on what you mean by additive.
    Admiral Richard. So, fundamentally, I am required to deter 
all nations that I am assigned, all the time, right. I don't 
get to do it one at a time. I have an obligation, such that we 
are able to meet all the objectives simultaneously with 
everybody that is involved.
    Until recently, it was pretty reasonable to assume that 
with the margins, right, for uncertainty that are built into 
our strategic forces, it would be reasonable to assume you had 
sufficient residual capability to deter any other lesser-
included case. That is about to no longer be true, and that is 
what I am talking about. I can give you some specific numbers 
in closed session, Senator.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you for that.
    Tell me this, what do you think that China's progress from 
a nuclear dyad to triad says about their view of a no-first-use 
policy?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, that, along with everything else 
in my mind, is fundamentally inconsistent with a no-first-use 
policy and the implied minimum-deterrent strategy.
    But maybe more importantly than independent of what their 
intent is, it certainly gives them the capability, if they 
choose to, to any number of possible employment strategies. So, 
even if that was the basis of the decision, it still allows a 
very large range of possible employment strategies, independent 
of why they got it to begin with.
    Senator Hawley. Very good.
    Admiral, tell me, many of those who advocate for shrinking 
or eliminating our ICBM force are also strong proponents of 
international arms control, and I am just wondering from a 
Defense point of view, is it your view that cutting our ICBM 
force would help or hurt our negotiating position in future 
arms-control negotiations with Russia or China.
    Admiral Richard. Senator, the way I approach that, 
fundamentally, that negotiation is the responsibility of the 
Department of State, with input from OSD policy, and I would 
defer to them on what the best negotiating strategy is.
    I just have to look at what the actual capabilities are now 
and what I have to have to deter that. So, my strong advice is 
arms control would be excellent. Additional arms control would 
reduce the threat. Get the arms control in place first before 
we then decide to take reductions in our capability.
    Senator Hawley. Let me ask you one final question and here 
in my remaining seconds about the danger of a simultaneous 
conflict. In your testimony, you wrote that prudence dictates 
military planners consider and account for the complex threat 
environment enabled by the strategic cooperation of Russia and 
China.
    Tell me how you are thinking about the threat of 
simultaneous conflicts in both, Europe and Asia, and how that 
informs your thinking of what we are going to need to maintain 
strategic deterrence in the coming years.
    Admiral Richard. Deterring opportunistic aggression going 
into the future will be a challenge that we haven't faced on 
this scale in a long time. So, if we are engaged in one 
theater, other folks sensing opportunity, and it is not only 
for their own individual aims. We also have to think through 
what they might do in cooperation with each other, because 
while they both have different national aims, both of them are 
inconsistent with us and it is to both of their advantage for 
us to potentially give constrain in a particular area.
    So, it is not only opportunistic; it is in combination. 
This three-party world that we are in is something we have 
never faced before, and we have a lot of work to continue to do 
to think our way through that.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you very much for that and your 
testimony.
    I will have some questions for you, General, for the 
record, and thank you for being here and thank you for your 
service.
    Thank you, Admiral.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley.
    Senator Blackburn, via Webex.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you all for the time today to talk a little bit.
    General Dickinson, I want to come to you. SPACECOM, the 
Southeast is home to three of our Nation's top-12 university 
programs for aerospace engineering. So, we are very excited and 
think it is appropriately placed, having SPACECOM there in 
Huntsville. We look forward to hosting this in the future and 
hearing more about SPACECOM. I appreciate some of the vastness 
of your area of operations, and it really is, quite literally, 
limitless. I see a range of reach in space and look forward to 
that.
    So, let me ask you this, is there a role for SPACECOM in 
traditional Departments of Commerce and Transportation-like 
functions, such as the shaping of the domestic ecosystem of 
space activity, space traffic management, launch licensing, and 
other space activities, because we know that, certainly, the 
Chinese are already working on this.
    General Dickinson. Senator, I think what you just described 
is appropriate. I think as we look at the rapid 
commercialization of space, just from the United States' 
perspective, in terms of numbers of capabilities and satellites 
going into orbit, that the actual administrative piece to that, 
which is the licensing and those types of functions, absolutely 
are part of the whole-of-government type of activity.
    For me at U.S. Space Command, my job is to make sure that I 
provide that secure environment through my ability to 
understand what is going on in the space domain in terms of 
what our competitors, potential adversaries are doing there, in 
terms of characterization of that, and understanding what their 
intentions might be.
    Senator Blackburn. Where are you in working with the 
Department of State and our partners and our allies to create 
norms of behavior in space, to include beyond near-Earth orbit?
    General Dickinson. Senator, I work very closely with OSD 
policy and the Department of Defense on helping to characterize 
maybe what we would think would be norms of behavior, but the 
work there is actually with the Department of State and how 
they are characterizing that.
    My job in U.S. Space Command is to make sure that I provide 
them that type of information that would show them or 
illustrate to them what those activities or behaves would be on 
orbit, in terms of our adversaries and competitors.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Now, if there were to be a 
conflict that began in or either transitioned to space, how do 
you interpret your current responsibilities to defend U.S. 
commercial assets?
    General Dickinson. So, my ``protect and defend'' 
responsibilities in the space domain are one of my fundamental 
mission sets for this command and I do that in a number of 
ways. One is understanding the environment. Two, is 
communicating that to, in this case, a commercial entity so 
that they are aware of that, and we do that. We are integrated 
very well with some of our commercial partners out at 
Vandenberg Air Force Base in one of my subordinate commands, 
and so we work every day to do that. But we would do that in a 
timely manner so that we are able to make them aware of 
activities.
    Senator Blackburn. So, you believe these responsibilities 
are appropriate in scope and scale?
    General Dickinson. So, Senator, I would take that in terms 
of my responsibilities and direction from the National Command 
Authority, on which assets, in particular, to protect, in that 
case, and in terms of the resources, I have resources today 
that are growing in capacity and capability over the next few 
years to help me.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay, and then, when it comes to 
development and enhancement of our space-based sensor layer, 
what would you say is the top threat that we should be hedging 
against and what should be our priority investment to counter 
that threat?
    General Dickinson. So, the pacing threat, the pacing 
challenge for, in the space domain is like it is in the other 
domains, which is China. They are growing capability and 
capacity as we have seen over the last several years. If you 
look at just the gross number of satellites that the Chinese 
have today, based on what they had just, you know, 10 years 
ago, they have gone from, back in 2010, they had about 70 
satellites on orbit; today, they have well over 400.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay.
    General Dickinson. We know that is growing in capability 
and capacity to probably be over a thousand by year 2030. So, 
they are the pacing threat for us in the space domain, just as 
they are in other domains.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. I have a couple questions for 
Admiral Richard. I will submit those as a QFR.
    Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Blackburn, and 
now let me recognize and salute the patience of Senator 
Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
    I know they are getting tired. Look, they look hungry and 
they probably need to go to the restroom, probably, so I won't 
be that long.
    First of all, thank you for your service. I can't imagine 
starting a new team from scratch. I can't imagine that. I never 
had to do it in football, and I just had 120 players, and, 
General, you have got your hands full, and thank you for your 
service, and an important service.
    Admiral, I like your forcefulness in terms of, hey, we need 
to modernize at the end of the day. You have had a team for a 
long time, or we have had a team that is getting old and we 
need new players and we need new equipment.
    I like what our secretary says. We can afford survival, and 
he is exactly right. All the money we are spending, we can 
afford it.
    You know, growing up, we were all in a space race, General, 
and we are in a new one now. It is a competition that we have 
to win. The Chinese have weaponized space, sadly.
    Many in our country don't understand that American life 
depends on our secure and reliable access to space, whether it 
is the GPS on our phones or watching a football game.
    Admiral Richard, you are a native of the great state and, 
General Dickinson, I know you worked at Huntsville as Army 
Missile Command, and you both understand firsthand that 
Alabamians stand firmly behind our men and women in uniform. 
Alabama's industry stands behind our military.
    Alabama and Redstone Arsenal are ready for Space Command, 
but many people in this room probably don't understand 
Redstone. Redstone has been involved with space operations for 
70 years. NASA's only facility on a military base is the 
Marshall Space Flight Center. The largest consumer of space 
products is the U.S. Army and the Army Missile Command and has 
been at Redstone Arsenal since it was established in 1962.
    Space technology won't just be developed by the Government 
to outpace China and Russia, which is going to be a challenge. 
We need private industry. The area around Redstone boasts 800 
suppliers and contractors building the very latest in space 
technology.
    I was at Redstone 3 weeks ago and Redstone has the land for 
Space Command to grow as your mission expands. It has dedicated 
64 acres behind the fence as Space Command and the base has 
temporary spaces for you right now if needed.
    So, General, I am looking forward to you calling the Great 
State of Alabama your home, and, Admiral, you are welcome to 
come any time.
    General Dickinson, thank you for your productive call last 
week. My colleague asked how much of a civilian workforce we 
might move to Huntsville. I would like to follow-up on that 
question. First, how much do your civilian workforce have you 
hired and how many people do you intend to hire in the future?
    General Dickinson. Senator, my approved manning document is 
about 60 percent civilian. To date, we have hired probably 
about, not quite a third of that into the command. The command, 
right now, is about a third of what our in strength will be. 
So, we are a little over 600. Some of that is contractor. Some 
of that is civilian, and some of that is military.
    So, as we look to the future, you know, we are absolutely 
looking at incentives that we can provide to our civilian 
workforce. They are absolutely the bedrock of the command today 
and into the future, and so, we will look at how we can try to 
incentivize our civilian workforce in terms of making the move 
to Alabama.
    But I can't give you, like I said earlier, I can't give you 
a prediction on what that percentage will be. There are a lot 
of factors that go into it. What we can do, though, is try to 
incentivize them through motivation, in terms of wanting to 
work with the command, and some other things that we will 
consider, as well.
    Senator Tuberville. Well, we are proud that the Secretary 
of Air Force selected Alabama as the home for Space Command.
    How do you see the National Guard implementing into that, 
at all? Do you, at all, in the future in Space Command and 
Space Force?
    General Dickinson. Senator, as we speak now, the Reserve 
component is a very important part of the U.S. Space Command. 
As a matter of fact, when we stood up or we established about 
20 months ago, one of our biggest elements or components within 
the command was the Reserve component.
    It was the Reserves and the National Guard. That is a very 
important part of the command. They bring a great deal of 
expertise and knowledge to the command.
    I see that in the future, too. We will always, as part of 
Space Command, have the Reserve component as an element within 
the command.
    Senator Tuberville. Admiral Richard, Russia and China are 
prioritizing investments to compete and win across the range of 
strategic capabilities, especially with regard to nuclear and 
space capabilities.
    Do you believe that we are behind the curve?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, I have what I need to do to 
deter, to do what the President has asked me to do, but I need 
it modernized, right. There is no remaining margin.
    We cannot extend or delay any of the modernization programs 
for me to continue to say that in the future.
    Senator Tuberville. Do we have the technology we need?
    Admiral Richard. Senator, yes, right now.
    The one area that we are working the hardest on to make 
sure we are fully taking advantage of new technologies is in 
the nuclear command and control system. We have got the next 5 
years locked in pretty tight.
    Trying to make sure that we take full advantage of 
technological development both, from the Commercial Sector and 
the Government Sector, will be keys to improving that in future 
iterations.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you very much.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Gentlemen, thank you for your testimony.
    We will now close the open session, adjourn, as quickly as 
possible to SVC-217 for the classified section.
    I have a conflict with the Appropriations Committee. If the 
ranking member arrives first, he will begin the initiation of 
the questions.
    With nothing [inaudible] or no other business before the 
Committee in the open session, I adjourn the hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 11:59 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

          Questions Submitted by Senator Kirsten E. Gillibrand
                     nuclear-tipped cruise missiles
    1. Senator Gillibrand. Admiral Richard, prior to the previous 
President reversing course, two Democratic and two Republican 
administrations had agreed that we no longer needed to deploy nuclear 
armed cruise missiles on conventional Navy ships. Why is a new nuclear 
sea launched cruise missile needed now, particular in times of fiscal 
austerity?
    Admiral Richard. The military requirement is driven by the 
increasing threat; i.e., the dramatic deterioration of the strategic 
environment.
    Specifically:
      Russia has recapitalized roughly 80 per cent of its 
strategic nuclear forces, has as many as 2000 nuclear weapons not under 
arms control agreements, and is capable of producing hundreds of 
warheads per year. Further, Russian strategy, doctrine, and 
capabilities call for the limited use of nuclear weapons to coerce 
NATO, and to defeat NATO conventional forces through wider use of 
nuclear weapons if coercion fails.
      China continues heavy investment in nuclear capabilities; 
has an intercontinental ballistic missile / submarine launched 
ballistic missile (ICBM / SLBM) dyad which will soon become a triad and 
is ahead of pace to more than double its nuclear stockpile by end of 
the decade. China's actions in the South China Sea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, 
and ballistic / hypersonic missile development significantly add to the 
threat--and they are likewise unconstrained by treaties or agreements.
    Deploying the nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise missile (SLCM-N) is 
intended to deny potential adversaries any mistaken confidence limited 
nuclear employment would provide an advantage over the U.S. and its 
Allies.
    SLCM-N will bring a needed non-strategic regional presence and an 
assured response capability. It does not require host nation support 
and provides additional diversity in platforms, range, and 
survivability. It will enhance our ability to tailor deterrence and 
assurance while expanding the range of credible U.S. options.
    Reintroduction of the SLCM-N (and other supplements) is intended to 
strengthen deterrence by convincing adversaries the U.S. has credible 
and effective options at any level of conflict, and they cannot coerce 
the U.S., our Allies and partners through the use of nuclear weapons.

    2. Senator Gillibrand. Admiral Richard, how will deploying these 
weapons on conventional navy vessels like attack submarines change 
their mission?
    Admiral Richard. Deploying such weapons on conventional Navy 
vessels would not fundamentally change their mission but they would 
augment their capabilities and provide additional options for the 
President.
    The nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise missile (SLCM-N) is intended 
to deny potential adversaries any mistaken confidence limited nuclear 
employment would provide an advantage over the U.S., its Allies and 
partners.
    SLCM-N will bring a needed non-strategic regional presence and an 
assured response capability. It does not require host nation support 
and provides additional diversity in platforms, range, and 
survivability. The SLCM-N complements the low-yield submarine launched 
ballistic missile (SLBM) to provide assurance to our Allies through 
tailored response options in vast operating areas where forward basing 
may not be possible. It will enhance our ability to tailor deterrence 
and assurance while expanding the range of credible U.S. options.
    Reintroduction of the SLCM-N (and other supplements) is intended to 
strengthen deterrence by convincing adversaries the U.S. has credible 
and effective options at any level of conflict, and they cannot coerce 
the U.S., our Allies and partners through the use of nuclear weapons.
                           the nuclear triad
    3. Senator Gillibrand. Admiral Richard, Air Force Chief of Staff 
General C.Q. Brown, USAF, recently stated ``the number [of nuclear 
weapons] might adjust and that may be a part of a dialogue . . . 
there'll be a fork in the road at some point.'' Do you agree with his 
comments?
    Admiral Richard. General Brown was referring to a hypothetical 
dialogue that may occur in the future regarding the appropriate triad 
force structure, so I would agree and expect many such conversations as 
we move forward with modernization. General Brown also stated, ``We 
can't stop our work on GBSD [Ground Based Strategic Deterrent].'' In a 
recent visit to Minot Air Force Base, General Brown said ``By updating 
the missile portion of the nuclear triad, we ensure a credible, capable 
and safe nuclear deterrent that provides our Nation and our Allies an 
umbrella of deterrence while discouraging others from use of nuclear 
weapons . . . Modernization of the ICBM [Intercontinental Ballistic 
Missile] program is both strategic and cost-effective.'' I fully agree 
with these statements.

    4. Senator Gillibrand. Admiral Richard, if you agree with General 
Brown's recent statements, what kinds of options are you considering in 
terms of adjusting our nuclear arsenal?
    Admiral Richard. USSTRATCOM will fully support ongoing strategic 
and nuclear policy reviews, with a goal of assessing the role of 
nuclear weapons in our defense strategy while adjusting to the 
operational implications of policy choices, as well as significant 
changes to the threat environment.
    As such, it is premature to speculate on any potential adjustments 
to our nuclear arsenal. Any adjustments to our force structure or 
stockpile size should be informed by a comprehensive strategic review, 
to evaluate the global threats, followed by a policy and strategy 
determination.
                    ground-based strategic deterrent
    5. Senator Gillibrand. Admiral Richard, the Air Force recently 
awarded a $13.3 billion contract to develop the Ground Based Strategic 
Deterrent to replace the existing Minuteman III intercontinental 
ballistic missiles (ICBM). Some critics have questioned whether ICBMs 
are necessary for nuclear deterrence or whether the Minuteman III could 
be extended for decades. Investing in other programs besides the 
ground-based strategic deterrent (GBSD) could save $260 billion dollars 
and create jobs. In a time of fiscal constraint, why should we 
modernize a weapon system that critics call redundant?
    Admiral Richard. The three legs of the strategic triad--ICBMs, 
ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) and heavy bombers--are 
complementary, not redundant. Each leg has unique attributes intended 
to complicate adversary planning while enhancing achievement of U.S. 
strategic deterrence and extended assurance objectives. The flexibility 
and responsiveness attributes provided by the ICBM leg are unmatched by 
the SSBN or bomber legs, and eliminating ICBMs would allow an adversary 
to concentrate resources on defeating the remaining two legs. For 
example, without ICBMs China becomes a strategic nuclear peer.
    The Air Force's decision point to either continue GBSD or pivot to 
a Minuteman III life extension program passed a number of years ago, 
when the DOD approved the Milestone-A (approves program entry into the 
Technology Maturation and Risk Reduction [TMRR] phase, approval of the 
program acquisition strategy, and release of the final Request for 
Proposal [RFP]) and initiated the GBSD development phase. GBSD is 
timely, cost effective, and ensures credibility of the ground leg of 
the U.S. strategic deterrent for decades into the future.

    6. Senator Gillibrand. Admiral Richard, in your opinion, if we had 
to continue to rely on the Minuteman III, how much longer could we rely 
on that system?
    Admiral Richard. We cannot rely on Minuteman III (MM III) past its 
currently planned retirement date. Our MM III force is 40 years beyond 
its designed life expectancy; relies on 20-50 year old technology; 
requires reverse engineering for costly, inflexible, sustainment 
solutions; and faces diminishing manufacturing sources, materiel 
shortages, and skilled labor force losses. A MM III life extension 
program would be prohibitively difficult, expensive, is already late to 
need, and will not address future threats.
    Previous decisions to delay needed modernization have resulted in 
aging components, asset attrition, and declining infrastructure. The 
Ground-Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD) is a comprehensive weapon 
system replacement for MM III and must begin deploying no later than 
2028 to prevent negative impacts to strategic deterrence. There is no 
margin to delay the GBSD deployment.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                 coordination with indo-pacific command
    7. Senator Hirono. General Dickinson, in your opening statement, 
you noted that Beijing actively seeks space superiority and is 
developing capabilities that could hold U.S. space assets at risk. How 
are you working with U.S. Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) to deter 
China from attacking our space systems?
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM is actively working with USINDOPACOM, 
other Combatant Commands, and the Intelligence Community to improve our 
posture, strengthen our alliances, and enhance emerging partnerships 
across the Indo-Pacific to deter China.
    Posture/Plans: Since USSPACECOM stood-up, we've been aggressive in 
our efforts to integrate with the other Combatant Commands, especially 
USINDOPACOM and USEUCOM. We have Integrated Planning Elements 
supporting each of the 10 other Combatant Commands. These are members 
of my staff that are onsite at the other Combatant Commands to 
integrate space into planning and operations, including Camp Smith in 
Hawaii. Thanks to the collaborative efforts of our Integrated Planning 
Elements, USSPACECOM equities are embedded in the other Combatant 
Commands' planning processes, just as theirs have been incorporated 
into ours. The understanding that space capabilities are both necessary 
to enable the Joint fight and are also vulnerable greatly increases 
emphasis on space planning among the Combatant Commands for competition 
and conflict. These planning efforts include Posture Plans, which 
address the necessary forces, footprints, and agreements for the 
Combatant Commands to meet their Unified Command Plan (UCP) 
responsibilities and our Contingency Plans to which we will transition 
if conflict arises.
    Strengthening Alliances: USSPACECOM is leveraging our security 
cooperation plans to focus collaboration with key allies on space 
domain awareness, force support, contingency operations, and strategic 
messaging. We are capitalizing on opportunities to increase the 
frequency of combined operations, exercises, and training with 
Australia, Japan, Republic of Korea, and New Zealand, including 
leveraging Global Sentinel, Global Thunder, and Global Lightning to 
increase resilience and interoperability. We are contributing to 
collective security in the Pacific by supporting Exercise Pacific Fury, 
Pacific Sentry, Talisman Saber, Northern Edge, and Keen Edge with space 
integration experts.
    Enhancing Emerging Partnerships: USSPACECOM is working with 
USINDOPACOM to identify opportunities for enhancing our space 
relationships with non-traditional space partners in the region who are 
beginning to show interest in space.
         columbia-class ballistic missile submarine procurement
    8. Senator Hirono. Admiral Richard, construction of the new line of 
Columbia-class ballistic missile submarines started last fall, with the 
first boat scheduled to be delivered to the Navy in 2027 and then go on 
its first deterrence patrol in 2031 to begin replacing the Ohio-class 
submarines. In your discussions with the Navy, has the COVID pandemic 
negatively affected the procurement timeline for the Columbia-class 
subs?
    Admiral Richard. Defer to the Navy regarding the ballistic missile 
submarine (SSBN) acquisition schedule.
    The Columbia-class delivery timeline remains on time despite the 
challenges posed by COVID-19. I applaud continued and focused support 
essential to build the workforce required to execute construction of 
the Columbia program.

    9. Senator Hirono. Admiral Richard, how confident are you in the 
procurement timelines I mentioned?
    Admiral Richard. Defer to the Navy regarding the ballistic missile 
submarine (SSBN) acquisition schedule.
    There is no margin in the Columbia-class delivery schedule and any 
delay will result in an operational capability gap. The Navy continues 
to make every effort to ensure on time delivery and the program must 
remain fully funded to replace our aging Ohio-class SSBNs.

    10. Senator Hirono. Admiral Richard, why is it important to have a 
minimum of 12 Columbia-class submarines in the Fleet?
    Admiral Richard. Section 242 of the Fiscal Year 2012 National 
Defense Authorization Act directed DOD to submit a report on the 
Columbia-class program that included, among other things, an assessment 
of various combinations of submarines and number of missile launch 
tubes per submarine.
    The assessment concluded at least 12 Columbia-class submarines with 
16 missile tubes each provided the best balance of performance, 
flexibility and cost while supporting the Nation's strategic deterrence 
mission and objectives. This is the absolute minimum capability needed 
to allow USSTRATCOM to meet our at-sea requirement during the most 
limiting maintenance intensive times throughout its service life.
    It is important to note the assessment was completed during a 
period of reduced tension. Given today's challenges and anticipated 
future threats, an assessment completed today would likely recommend 
additional hulls, missiles tubes, or a combination of both.
                hawaii air national guard space squadron
    11. Senator Hirono. General Dickinson, last year, it was announced 
that the Hawaii Air National Guard had been selected to have one of 
four national offensive space control squadrons. I understand that the 
Hawaii Air National Guard is in the process of establishing the 293rd 
Space Control Squad based at the Pacific Missile Range Facility on 
Kauai. What role would members of the National Guard play in U.S. Space 
Command's (SPACECOM) operations?
    General Dickinson. (Dir, Reserve Forces and Manpower, Col Lisa 
Johnson)
    Air National Guard (ANG) Space Control Squadrons have been 
providing Space Electronic Warfare in support of Combatant Command 
requirements since 2018. There are currently three Offensive Space 
Control units in the California, Colorado, and Florida ANGs 
respectively. Once all basing actions are completed and the Secretary 
of the Air Force (SecAF) provides the record of decision, the ANG will 
stand up a fourth Offensive Space Control Squadron along with the first 
Defensive Space Control Squadron in the ANG. Specific to the proposed 
Space Control unit in Hawaii, the Environmental Assessment (EA) will be 
completed on 5 Aug 2021 with a SecAF Record of Decision anticipated 
before the end of CY21, Initial Operation Capability (IOC) is projected 
for fiscal year 2023. United States Space Command commands and controls 
these forces based on theater and global operational requirements.
                iran joint comprehensive plan of action
    12. Senator Hirono. Admiral Richard, before the Trump 
Administration decided to leave the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action 
(JCPOA) agreement, head of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and 
the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) testified that the JCPOA 
extended the amount of time Iran would need to produce enough fissile 
material for a nuclear weapon from a few months to about 1 year. This 
is why it's crucial to be a part of an agreement with Iran on the issue 
of nuclear weapons. The Biden Administration is seeking to rejoin the 
JCPOA with the condition that Iran returns to compliance under the 
agreement. What are your thoughts on negotiating a return to the JCPOA?
    Admiral Richard. Defer to the State Department regarding 
negotiations of international agreements.

    13. Senator Hirono. Admiral Richard, would rejoining the JCPOA be a 
good step toward containing Iran's nuclear weapons capabilities?
    Admiral Richard. I support any agreement that enhances the security 
of this nation. Defer to the State Department and the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense regarding whether rejoining JCPOA would enhance 
the security of the U.S., its Allies and partners.
                              north korea
    14. Senator Hirono. Admiral Richard, in your opening statement you 
say that U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM) is committed to supporting 
the efforts of Department of Defense (DOD) and the State Department to 
work with Indo-Pacific partners to reduce military tensions and support 
the achievement of the fully verified denuclearization of North Korea. 
What do you think the next steps are to achieve full denuclearization 
of North Korea?
    Admiral Richard. As diplomacy is the Nation's tool of first resort, 
defer to the State Department in this matter.

    15. Senator Hirono. Admiral Richard, what role will STRATCOM play 
in achieving the goal of full denuclearization of North Korea?
    Admiral Richard. USSTRATCOM supports DOD and State Department 
efforts to coordinate with regional partners, reduce military tensions, 
and engage diplomatic efforts towards achieving the complete 
denuclearization of North Korea.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                        cyber mission and space
    16. Senator Rosen. General Dickinson, how are you utilizing 
technologies like machine learning and artificial intelligence to 
maintain our digital superiority and stay ahead of our adversaries?
    General Dickinson. Digital superiority is one of my key tasks, and 
we are introducing new technologies and linking current ones to 
increase our Space Domain Awareness and Command and Control as my top 
two priorities. As an example, under my Global Sensor Manager (GSM) 
mission, directed in the Unified Campaign Plan (UCP), I must ingest the 
sensor data, make the data available and transparent through transport, 
and curate the data before applying algorithmic machine learning models 
and artificially intelligent applications to aid the decision making 
process. The data value chain is foundational to our ability to make 
decisions concerning objects in space. As noted in the National 
Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence (NSCAI) final report, 
there are high-data volumes associated with the space domain that make 
it particularly well-suited for prioritized integration of AI-enabled 
applications. In support of the DOD C3I Modernization Strategy, 
USSPACECOM works closely with the DOD CIO, U.S. Space Force (USSF), and 
the Space Development Agency and U.S. Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM) to 
deliver SATCOM governance in support of tightly integrated, hybrid 
military and commercial, Enterprise SATCOM Architecture.
      science, technology, engineering, and math outreach programs
    17. Senator Rosen. General Dickinson, the Junior Reserve Officer 
Training Corps (JROTC) STEM [science, technology, engineering, and 
math] program is funded through the Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, and 
Navy. Is this a program that could help SPACECOM carry out its mission?
    General Dickinson. Any program that encourages youth participation 
in STEM education and follow-on career opportunities has the potential 
to benefit USSPACECOM. The conversion of some Air Force JROTC 
detachments to Space Force may be particularly helpful. The JROTC 
program promotes patriotism, citizenship, and appreciation for the work 
of the U.S. Armed Forces, yet there is no direct guarantee of a career 
in the DOD. However, programs which encourage STEM activities have the 
potential to enhance the talent base from which the Services recruit, 
which ultimately benefits all selective-crewed organizations such as 
the Combatant Commands. Moreover, these efforts enrich the talent base 
from which USSPACECOM can recruit for federal civilian employment 
opportunities following college education.

    18. Senator Rosen. General Dickinson, what are SPACECOM's other 
STEM outreach programs, and how do you plan to grow them to keep up 
with the workforce of the future?
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM has initiated collaboration with 
academic institutions in order to encourage STEM careers. In the very 
first year of our standup I directed the staff to assess the optimum 
ways to do this. Some of these avenues include leveraging students and 
graduates in the intern programs we are beginning this summer to 
increase our diversity and bring cutting edge thinking into the 
command. We intend to grow the opportunities for USSPACECOM internships 
in STEM areas where we perceive interest.
                         stimulating innovation
    19. Senator Rosen. General Dickinson, what is your assessment of 
the report on the ``State of the Space Industrial Base 2020'' which 
concluded (among other things) that ``The very long schedules of many 
DOD space programs limit the opportunities for short design-build-test 
projects that stimulate interest and innovation within the U.S. 
workforce.''?
    General Dickinson. In the past, the capability to build, test, and 
iterate quickly in space eluded the DOD as the threat did not demand a 
better approach for providing space capabilities. Our adversaries 
exploited this shortcoming and rapidly developed space and counter-
space capabilities that threaten our space superiority.
    Given this new reality, we must regain our advantage through 
building capability more rapidly at lower cost. In addition, we must 
leverage the opportunity to partner with commercial space companies and 
with our Allies and partners in these efforts.
    I support any effort that enables the Department and the Nation to 
develop and field space capabilities more rapidly.

    20. Senator Rosen. General Dickinson, how is the acquisition arm of 
Space Command working to decrease the timelines for DOD space programs 
and increase the rate of space experiments and prototypes for small 
launch?
    General Dickinson. In general, CCMDs do not do acquisitions, but 
rely on the services, especially the USSF as the primary provider of 
space capabilities for our mission needs. As such, while we have 
fostered close working relationships with all of the Services, we are 
especially linked with the USSF as well as Interagency space capability 
development partners. We interact with these stakeholders at many 
levels across multiple requirements, integration, and acquisition 
oversight and coordination councils.
    USSPACECOM, USSF and the larger Space Community, are working to 
decrease the timelines for DOD space programs through multiple facets. 
For USSPACECOM, our primary acquisition support responsibility is 
producing accurate and clear combatant command operational requirements 
and focus areas based on component operations, lessons learned from 
exercises and gaming, and a sound analytical foundation. This enables 
the space enterprise to build and deliver exactly what we need, when we 
need it.
    Additionally, USSPACECOM is aggressively engaging with industry as 
the innovation, speed, and competitive edge resident in the US 
commercial market must be woven into the fabric of our operational 
warfighting architectures and postures. We are engaging our Science, 
Technology, and Advanced Concepts with the space community and 
acquisition authorities to accelerate technology maturation in proofs 
of concept, developmental and operational prototyping, and 
experimentation.
    Finally, in coordination with the Space Development Agency, 
USSPACECOM is levying space warfighter requirements in support of their 
payload technology capabilities for future tranche generations. These 
opportunities, starting in 2024, will enable capability insertion 
opportunities required by the warfighter, as well as support quick 
reaction technology upgrades, resulting in decreased timelines for DOD 
space programs, space experiments, and assessing prototypes.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe
            intercontinental ballistic missile modernization
    21. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, one of the criticisms 
surrounding ballistic missiles is that, unlike bombers, they're not 
recallable should the president reconsider his or her order after 
launch. However, several press reports over the years have documented 
occasions where range safety personnel remotely destroyed a Minuteman 
III ICBM when anomalies were discovered during test flights. Could you 
explain any technical, operational, or security reasons why such a 
self-destruct mechanism couldn't or shouldn't be installed on deployed 
missiles?
    Admiral Richard. There is no military value to installing a self-
destruct mechanism on operationally deployed ICBMs. The only reason 
such equipment is installed on test vehicles is to ensure safety of 
personnel and the general public. A self-destruct mechanism introduces 
a potential vulnerability that could impact ICBM force effectiveness 
and reliability.
    Our ICBM force is controlled through secure, reliable, positive 
control measures, which ensures only the President, in deliberate 
consultation with senior advisors, can authorize the use of nuclear 
weapons. We have a strategic triad so the President is never in a 
position where he / she must make a hasty decision to launch ICBMs or 
risk losing the capability to respond. The ICBM force will not launch 
until the President deliberately issues orders.

    22. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, during a recent House Armed 
Services Committee hearing, it came to light that certain offices 
within the Department of Defense may be advocating for a plan that 
would cut the number of operational Minuteman III intercontinental 
ballistic missiles from 400 to 200, develop some means of further 
extending the life of this system, and cancelling the planned 
replacement program, the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent. Could you 
outline the operational challenges your successors would face in 
deterring two nuclear peer adversaries with a 60+ year old ICBM force 
that will be half the size it is today?
    Admiral Richard. Our Cold War-era systems were developed and built 
to counter a single, peer adversary (Soviet Union). The most compelling 
argument against reducing our ICBM force structure is we must now deter 
two peer adversaries (Russia and China) and several regional 
adversaries (North Korea and Iran). All pose unique threats and 
challenges; and must be deterred differently. If we reduce ICBM force 
structure in the face of growing adversary threats, USSTRATCOM cannot 
meet strategic guidance nor guarantee a credible nuclear deterrent.
    Our legacy delivery systems, stockpile, and infrastructure are all 
well past their intended operational life and are not designed for, nor 
capable of keeping pace with evolving threats. I do not support any 
Minuteman III (MM III) force structure reductions (e.g. cannibalizing 
assets to keep MM III on alert) or pivoting from the Ground-Based 
Strategic Deterrent (GBSD) program to a life extension effort. While 
``cannibalizing'' the MM III force may defer the asset attrition 
problem, it does not halt component aging or address identified 
capability gaps. In 2014, the DOD and USAF considered a MM III life 
extension program and determined GBSD modernization is the most cost-
effective way to maintain the ICBM force. Switching to a MM III life 
extension now is late-to-need, will result in a capability gap, and 
adds operational risk to USSTRATCOM's deterrent mission.
                          strategic deterrence
    23. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, those who favor reducing the 
size of our nuclear forces often argue that non-nuclear capabilities 
can be substituted for nuclear weapons without diminishing our ability 
to credibly hold targets at risk, deter adversaries, and assure allies. 
For example, some groups argue that conventional or cyber weapons can 
be substituted for nuclear weapons. Do you think other capabilities can 
be as effective as nuclear weapons in deterring the highest levels of 
aggression to the extent that one can be directly substituted for the 
other?
    Admiral Richard. While new non-nuclear capabilities offer the 
opportunity for risk reduction and de-escalation during a crisis, there 
is little evidence to suggest a nuclear state would be deterred by 
anything other than nuclear weapons. However, new capability 
development is one of the few ways to reduce reliance on nuclear 
weapons, and hypersonic weapons are the best near-term capability to 
achieve this. The range, promptness, and survivability of hypersonic 
weapons could provide some effects that today require nuclear weapons.

    24. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, in response to a question from 
Senator Tom Cotton, you stated that reducing the number of 
intercontinental ballistic missiles or removing that leg of the triad 
would ``solve a critical problem for China''. Can you elaborate how 
that would be the case?
    Admiral Richard. The triad must be considered as a whole because it 
functions as a whole, with each leg essential to overall effectiveness. 
The triad's overlapping attributes ensure the enduring survivability of 
our deterrence capabilities against attack and our capacity to hold a 
diverse range of adversary targets at risk throughout the spectrum of 
crisis or conflict.
    The intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) force is the most 
responsive leg of the triad and ICBM geographic dispersion presents an 
intractable targeting problem, complicating China's (and Russia's) 
strategies. These missiles are capable of holding a wide range of 
targets, to include emergent and time sensitive targets, at risk. They 
are survivable to all but a massive nuclear exchange and possess the 
highest day-to-day readiness.
    Reducing the ICBM force by half would be a unilateral reduction in 
the face of a deteriorating security environment along with the 
detrimental messaging to our Allies and adversaries, and would 
facilitate China's rise as a strategic peer. China's currently 
intractable targeting problem would be significantly eased and they 
would be closer to possessing a credible counter-force strategy (i.e., 
the ability to directly attack our nuclear forces) for the first time 
in their history.
    For the case without any ICBMs, in addition to the above, the 
potential for a strategic attack on our homeland further increases. A 
conventional attack on our few (5) submarine and bomber bases would 
significantly degrade the Nation's remaining deterrent.

    25. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, how would going below 400 to 
200, or to even zero, be solving a ``big problem'' that China currently 
has?
    Admiral Richard. The triad must be considered as a whole because it 
functions as a whole, with each leg essential to overall effectiveness. 
The Triad's overlapping attributes ensure the enduring survivability of 
our deterrence capabilities against attack and our capacity to hold a 
diverse range of adversary targets at risk throughout the spectrum of 
crisis or conflict.
    The intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) force is the most 
responsive leg of the triad and ICBM geographic dispersion presents an 
intractable targeting problem, complicating China's (and Russia's) 
strategies. These missiles are capable of holding a wide range of 
targets, to include emergent and time sensitive targets, at risk. They 
are survivable to all but a massive nuclear exchange and possess the 
highest day-to-day readiness.
    Reducing the ICBM force by half would be a unilateral reduction in 
the face of a deteriorating security environment along with the 
detrimental messaging to our Allies and adversaries, and would 
facilitate China's rise as a strategic peer. China's currently 
intractable targeting problem would be significantly eased and they 
would be closer to possessing a credible counter-force strategy (i.e., 
the ability to directly attack our nuclear forces) for the first time 
in their history.
    For the case without any ICBMs, in addition to the above, the 
potential for a strategic attack on our homeland further increases. A 
conventional attack on our few (5) submarine and bomber bases would 
significantly degrade the Nation's remaining deterrent.

    26. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, during your testimony, you 
noted that due to Russia's and China's aggressive nuclear modernization 
activities, the United States, ``for the first time in our history . . 
. is facing two nuclear-capable strategic peer adversaries at the same 
time, both of whom have to be deterred differently.'' You also stated 
that, ``China . . . cannot be considered a lesser included case in this 
context.'' Could you elaborate on what you mean by these statements?
    Admiral Richard. Russia and China are pursuing extensive military 
modernization goals and present different deterrence challenges:
      Russia is constrained by the New Strategic Arms Reduction 
Treaty (New START, or NST), but maintains a significant stockpile of 
non-accountable weapons. China is not party to NST and is expected to 
at least double its nuclear stockpile in the next decade.
      Russia has attacked neighboring states, annexed conquered 
territory, interfered in foreign elections, and worked to undermine 
European institutions.
      China cannot be considered a lesser included case as it 
is on a trajectory to be a strategic peer with the United States and 
Russia. Specifically, China is expanding and diversifying its nuclear 
arsenal by rapidly increasing the numbers of land-, sea- and air-based 
delivery systems, adding capabilities to include multiple warheads, 
pursuing a launch-on-warning posture, and developing methods to defeat 
missile defense systems. China continues to invest significant 
resources in hypersonic systems and is expanding its space and counter-
space capabilities.
    Deterrence is influencing an adversary's decision-making such that 
a given adversary is induced to choose restraint over action, i.e., a 
strategic attack. China and Russia have unique goals, aspirations, 
interests, and objectives as well as distinct histories, cultures, 
perceptions and values. Our deterrence strategies must be tailored to 
each. Neither country can be deterred individually in a vacuum, given 
the multi-polar nature of today's world. Actions taken to deter Russia 
will have a measurable impact on China, and vice versa--and this must 
be taken into account. The threat posed by China is now additive to the 
threat posed by Russia. Previously, we were able to address both with a 
force sized for Russia.

    27. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, in your best military advice, 
could you outline what the implications of this multipolar nuclear 
balance could have for the capabilities you and your successors will 
need to meet deterrence requirements?
    Admiral Richard. A multipolar nuclear environment requires the 
application of tailored and flexible strategies to effectively deter 
adversaries under various threats and scenarios in all domains during 
peacetime, crisis, and across the spectrum of conflict. This requires a 
fully modernized nuclear force and supporting infrastructure that is 
credible, flexible, adaptable, and resilient.
    Our strategic nuclear deterrent underwrites U.S. military 
operations around the world, is the foundation and backstop of our 
national defense, and assures Allies and partners. As such, the Nation 
must remain committed to modernizing and recapitalizing our strategic 
forces and supporting infrastructure--and fully resource every program 
each year. Nothing else works as planned or envisioned without a safe, 
secure, effective, and credible nuclear deterrent.
                     china's nuclear modernization
    28. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, as part of during a recent 
House Armed Services Committee hearing, a DOD official submitted 
written testimony that stated that Chinese nuclear modernization is 
accelerating `` . . . in response to perceived threats, including 
potentially first-strike capability from the United States.'' Are you 
aware of any intelligence that would support such a conclusion?
    Admiral Richard. No. U.S. nuclear capabilities are essentially 
unchanged since the end of the Cold War, except for getting smaller in 
size and older. We assess the PRC strategy includes advancing a 
comprehensive military modernization program to ``basically'' complete 
military modernization by 2035 and transform the PLA into a ``world 
class'' military by 2049. However, it is difficult to truly know when 
China will be complete because, due to their opacity, we do not know 
where they are heading. I believe they are at an inflection point with 
regard to their accelerated pace of modernization and I know they can 
no longer be viewed as a lesser-included strategic adversary.
                                  w93
    29. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, with respect to development of 
the W93/Mk7 warhead, an analysis of alternatives is underway, with 
contributions from DOD and the National Nuclear Security Administration 
(NNSA). In the past, both the Pentagon and representatives from the 
United Kingdom communicated the urgency of supporting this program, and 
the importance of continuing the longstanding cooperation between our 
countries on nuclear issues. Has anything changed with respect to the 
urgent need to continue progress this program?
    Admiral Richard. No. It is neither operationally viable nor cost-
effective to indefinitely sustain currently fielded 1980's submarine-
launched ballistic missile (SLBM) weapons and expect them to remain 
militarily relevant against evolving 21st century threats. In addition 
to U.S. modernization requirements, the W93/Mk 7 program enables us to 
continue our longstanding support to the U.K. and their warhead 
replacement program. As an Allied, independent nuclear power 
contributing to NATO's nuclear deterrence posture, the U.K.'s 
continuous at-sea nuclear deterrent is critical to strategic security.

    30. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, when can the Committee expect 
the analysis of alternatives to be complete?
    Admiral Richard. The scope of the W93 design will be more defined 
as we complete Phase 1 (a concept study to explore alternatives to meet 
the need), and enter Phase 2 (a feasibility study to evaluate Phase 
1concepts deemed viable in Phase 1). Phase 1 is expected to be complete 
by the end of fiscal year 2023.
    national nuclear security administration modernization programs
    31. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, do you believe DOD and NNSA 
programs are adequately aligned to meet STRATCOM military requirements 
for modernizing the Nation's nuclear forces?
    Admiral Richard. DOD's current delivery systems modernization 
programs and NNSA's stockpile and enterprise stewardship programs are 
tightly integrated and aligned to sustain our current capabilities. 
Across the board, NNSA's stockpile and infrastructure modernization 
programs required to ensure on-time delivery of weapon capabilities for 
an effective and credible nuclear deterrent are projected to be either 
just-in-time or late-to-need. This is evidenced by the recent Critical 
Decision--One (CD-1) on pit production which projects fielding the 80 
pits per year requirement between 5 to 10 years later than the military 
and statutory requirement of NLT 2030. On-time fielding of replacement 
capabilities depends on meeting established schedules, and as with the 
NNSA, DOD's replacement system capabilities are now projected to 
deliver just-in-time. There is no schedule margin remaining for either 
DOD or NNSA.

    32. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, if NNSA programs are not 
adequately funded, could you outline the potential operational impacts 
that could result if the two Departments' programs become misaligned?
    Admiral Richard. The continued, chronic underfunding of the 
maintenance and modernization of the Nation's nuclear weapons 
infrastructure is the single greatest risk to strategic deterrence. 
This significantly degrades the U.S.'s ability to achieve strategic 
deterrence, extended deterrence, and non-proliferation objectives.
    Not providing the needed resources to recapitalize invites the very 
real risk of losing the capacity to field a credible and effective 
nuclear deterrent, at a time when our adversaries are modernizing and 
expanding their own nuclear capabilities. Once these capabilities are 
lost it will take 15-20 years to recapitalize them. In an ever-evolving 
world of adversaries and Allies, we must be cognizant of the 
operational implications and national risks of any decision to not fund 
or divest any capability--and we must have a comprehensive threat-based 
strategy review to ensure this capability will not be needed for at 
least a generation.
    We are already at a point where nuclear modernization programmatic 
risks are transferring to me, as the USSTRATCOM Commander, in the form 
of operational risk. This impacts my ability to meet national-level 
strategic guidance. If NNSA lacks fundamental infrastructure 
recapitalization funding, then we will reach the point in less than a 
decade when a future USSTRATCOM commander testifies he / she can no 
longer certify the effectiveness of the strategic deterrent force to 
meet assigned strategic deterrence and assurance mission requirements.

    33. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Richard, could you outline the impact 
to the operational force in the 2030s if plutonium pit production does 
not reach the Congressionally-mandated target of 80 pits per year by 
2030?
    Admiral Richard. Pit production is a foundational capability, a 
leading indicator and symptomatic of larger issues in today's nuclear 
security enterprise. No option below 80 pits per year (ppy) by 2030 
fully supports achieving assigned Presidential objectives.
    Failing to achieve a pit production capability to meet 80 ppy in 
2030 will result in the current stockpile of weapons with components 
far exceeding intended design life. We will be forced to reuse aged 
pits for a longer period of time, ultimately leading to deployed 
weapons with 100 year old pits--a situation where we have no scientific 
basis to ensure confidence the weapons will function as designed. This 
scenario may result in the inability to certify the safety, security, 
reliability and effectiveness of the weapons.
    Because pit aging impacts are uncertain, this nation cannot afford 
to be without the capability to address these concerns--we cannot wait 
for an issue in the stockpile to occur before addressing it, and 
pausing work on the current program to reassess requirements is no 
longer viable. It is in the best interests for the U.S. and Allies to 
proactively make the required investments versus waiting until a 
potentially catastrophic safety or reliability concern in aged pits 
manifests itself.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Deb Fischer
                      u.s. nuclear force structure
    34. Senator Fischer. Admiral Richard, the New Strategic Armed 
Reduction Treaty (START) limits U.S. strategic nuclear forces to 1,550 
deployed warheads. Currently the U.S. deploys about 70 percent of its 
treaty-accountable warheads submarine-based SLBMs, no more than 400 
warheads on ground-based ICBMs, with the bomber-leg of the nuclear 
triad making up the remainder. Do you support the current force 
structure's distribution of treaty-accountable warheads across the 
three legs of the triad?
    Admiral Richard. Yes. The force structure's distribution of 
accountable weapons provides the appropriate diversity, flexibility and 
resilience to deter potential adversaries from conducting nuclear and 
non-nuclear strategic attacks, assure Allies and partners, achieve U.S. 
objectives if deterrence fails, and hedge against an uncertain future.

    35. Senator Fischer. Admiral Richard, would it be your best 
military advice to preserve the current force structure's allocation of 
warheads between the legs of the triad for a force limited to 1,550 
deployed warheads?
    Admiral Richard. Yes. Under the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty 
(New START) limit of 1,550 accountable warheads, U.S. nuclear forces 
are sized and postured to deter potential adversaries from conducting 
nuclear and non-nuclear strategic attacks, assure Allies and partners, 
achieve U.S. objectives if deterrence fails, and hedge against an 
uncertain future.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator M. Michael Rounds
             space launch options--increased demand signal
    36. Senator Rounds. General Dickinson, in 2020 you stated, ``A 
mixed architecture increases warfighting resilience by assuring that 
the loss of any single platform does not result in serious mission 
degradation or failure. This opens up the opportunity for more frequent 
refresh of technology and creates an additional demand signal for 
appropriately sized launch options.'' Can you elaborate on what you 
mean by ``appropriately sized launch options,'' and what type of demand 
signal you envision?
    General Dickinson. ``Appropriately sized launch options'' means 
exploring a wide range of cost, schedule, scale, and supply options as 
well as leveraging partnering opportunities to support warfighter space 
capability needs. The DOD must take advantage of rapid commercial 
development, streamlined operational testing processes, and innovative 
technology advancements to deliver immediate and revolutionary space 
capabilities on-time.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                            missile defense
    37. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Richard, the Unified Command Plan 
directs the Commander, STRATCOM, to be the advocate for missile 
defense. With that in mind, can you outline what homeland missile 
defense requirements are needed to meet current and predicted future 
threats? Please explain why these capabilities are needed and along 
what timeline.
    Admiral Richard. Today's missile defense is designed to defend the 
homeland against a limited threat. The upward trajectory of future 
threats requires the delivery of enhanced missile defense capabilities 
as soon as technically and feasibly possible.
    Specific improvements include an architecture of persistent sensors 
to detect, track and discriminate advanced missile threats, including 
hypersonics; improvements to interceptor reliability, capacity, and 
lethality; and development of next-generation capabilities such as 
directed energy, boost phase intercept, and non-kinetic effects.

    38. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Richard, the missile capabilities 
possessed by rogue nations continue to rapidly evolve. For instance, as 
reported by the New York Times earlier this year, North Korea recently 
showcased the country's ``largest-ever'' intercontinental ballistic 
missile (ICBM) and revealed a new submarine-launched ballistic missile. 
Also, in a 2020 House Armed Services Committee hearing, former Under 
Secretary of Defense for Policy John Rood agreed with the U.S. Northern 
Command (NORTHCOM) assessment that North Korea's ICBM threat could 
challenge the ability of the Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) 
system as soon as 2025. Provided the continuing advancement of these 
weapon systems, do you think it makes good strategic ``sense'' to have 
20 empty silos--ready to accept missiles--at Fort Greely, Alaska?
    Admiral Richard. Defer to the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) for 
specifics on their ability to maintain / accelerate Next-Generation 
Interceptor (NGI) capabilities and deliveries.
    USSTRATCOM's role is to advocate for missile defense capabilities 
on behalf of combatant commands. The importance of pursuing additional 
missile defense capability on behalf of the warfighter must be 
coordinated and adjudicated with MDA and associated stakeholders. MDA 
is taking steps to bridge the gap for these additional 20 silos--a 
direct result of NDAA language for additional interim Ground-Based 
Interceptors--until NGI is fielded.
                      extended nuclear deterrence
    39. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Richard, as you know, we provide 
extended nuclear deterrence to a number of allies in Europe, Asia, and 
elsewhere. In turn, this assists in preventing the proliferation of 
nuclear materials and weapon systems. Great power competitors and rogue 
nations are pursuing nuclear modernization while we continue to delay 
and defer our own. How will continued delay and deferral impact allies 
who rely on us for extended nuclear deterrence?
    Admiral Richard. Allies and partners place enormous value on U.S. 
extended nuclear deterrence, which is key to nuclear non-proliferation. 
Effectively assuring Allies and partners depends on their confidence in 
the credibility of our nuclear deterrent.
    Since there is no additional margin for postponing our strategic 
deterrent modernization programs, our Allies and partners are likely to 
interpret any further delay or deferral as an erosion of the U.S. 
extended deterrence guarantee and likewise, incur doubt regarding the 
credibility of our commitments.
    As such, the Nation must remain committed to modernizing and 
recapitalizing our strategic forces and supporting infrastructure--we 
must maintain the current schedule with full and consistent resourcing. 
Nothing else works as planned or envisioned without a safe, secure, 
effective, and credible nuclear deterrent.
                 chinese and russian space development
    40. Senator Sullivan. General Dickinson, in your statement for the 
record you described various space capabilities China and Russia have 
developed that could threaten United States intelligence, surveillance, 
and reconnaissance (ISR), communication, and navigation capabilities in 
the event of a conflict. Can you explain how China and Russia are 
attempting to use international treaties and dual-use capabilities to 
militarize space and create an advantage over the United States?
    General Dickinson. International Treaties:
    To counter United States space capabilities, Russia and China 
jointly sought international support for binding treaties or UN 
resolutions which they likely believe would asymmetrically constrain 
United States national security space activities. Generally, these 
proposals have no verification or enforcement mechanisms, but would 
tend to aid Russia and China in identifying (and acting against) 
national security space activities of western democracies, while they 
continue to develop counterspace weapons.
      The major Russia/Chinese initiative is the proposed 
agreement for the ``Prevention of the Placement of Weapons in Outer 
Space'' (PPWT for short). The proposed PPWT bans any ``weapon'' [not 
fully defined] in orbit or that transits a fraction of an orbit--
something that in practice could, for example limit U.S. ballistic 
missile defense activities. The PPWT has no effective enforcement 
mechanism, and verification and ``transparency'' are voluntary. Notably 
lacking from the treaty's language are prohibitions on Chinese and 
Russian direct-ascent (ground to space) anti-satellite weapons and 
ground based directed-energy anti-satellite weapons.
      In addition, Russia and China have repeatedly submitted a 
UN resolution regarding voluntary ``no first placement'' (NFP) of 
weapons in space, again without verification mechanisms. As with the 
PPWT, the NFP does not define the term ``space weapon''. The irony is 
that while Russia claims to seek a ban on ``first placement'' of 
weapons in space, it already deployed space weapons, as it demonstrated 
with its July 15, 2020 on-orbit test of a space-based anti-satellite 
weapon, among other tests of counterspace capabilities.
      Ironically, considering Russia and China's public 
propaganda against ``weaponization of space'', both rejected last 
year's UK-sponsored UN General Assembly Resolution (75/36) ``Reducing 
Space Threats Through Norms, Rules, and Principles of Responsible 
Behavior''. This resolution encouraged member states to ``study 
existing and potential threats to space systems'', a proposal which 
could shine a light on both countries' wide-ranging counterspace 
efforts.
    Dual Use:
    China and Russia are likely integrating civilian satellites used 
for remote sensing, satellite communications, and navigation with 
counterspace capabilities to support their deterrence efforts against 
the United States. According to the National Air and Space Intelligence 
Center (NASIC), both countries are capable of employing their civil and 
commercial remote sensing satellites to supplement military-dedicated 
capabilities. China employs a ``whole of nation'' strategy for 
military-civil fusion, through which commercial or civilian assets may 
be required to support or assist intelligence organizations or the 
military, according to open source reporting. China's National 
Intelligence Law of 2017 requires Chinese corporations to assist in 
``intelligence work'', likely facilitating technology transfer to 
military space and weapons development. China is expanding satellite 
communications and navigation capabilities, which likely support PLA 
operations. China is probably testing dual-use technologies in space 
that could be applied to counter-space missions.
    Russia also maintains a satellite communications and robust 
navigation fleet that provides resilient services Russian to civil, 
government, and military users locally and worldwide. According to the 
Defense Intelligence Agency, Russia continues to develop sophisticated 
on-orbit capabilities that could serve dual-use purposes. For example, 
``inspection'' or servicing satellites are capable of closely 
approaching satellites to inspect or fix issues; this same technology 
could also be used to approach another country's satellite and conduct 
an attack that results in temporary or permanent damage. Russia appears 
to have carried out a test of an on-orbit anti-satellite weapon in July 
2020.
    Dual-use capabilities will challenge United States ability to 
provide advanced warning of nefarious intentions or discern between 
peaceful and potential hostile activity. Both China and Russia's 
militaries stand to benefit from fielding viable threats to United 
States satellites.

    41. Senator Sullivan. General Dickinson, from your perspective as 
SPACECOM Commander, how do the Chinese and Russian threats differ 
operationally within your combatant command?
    General Dickinson. China and Russia each have weaponized space as a 
way to deter and counter a possible United States intervention during a 
regional conflict and as a means to reduce United States and allied 
military effectiveness in a conflict. Beijing aims to build a more 
joint, versatile, professional, and lethal force capable of power 
projection; space is critical to this goal. Russia's focus is on 
integrating space services--such as communications; precision 
navigation and timing (PNT); geolocation; and intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR)--into its weapons and command 
and control (C2) systems as a means of enabling strategic defense. 
Russia recognizes the importance of military space capabilities; 
however, its budget is more limited than China's due to competing 
priorities with broader militarization efforts. China and Russia's 
counterspace focus is very likely tied to perceived fears of United 
States military capabilities. Both countries will likely continue 
endeavors in the space domain to deliver electronic warfare, directed 
energy, and kinetic capabilities to disrupt U.S. C2 systems and use 
space or space denial operations as an integral component to achieve 
information superiority in conflict.

    42. Senator Sullivan. General Dickinson, a recent study 
commissioned by the U.S. Space Force, the Defense Innovation Unit, and 
the Air Force Research Laboratory stated, ``China's institution 
building and use of space are the key providers of global economic 
development reinforcing their . . . Belt and Road Initiative, whereby 
infrastructure for economic development wins over and binds new allies 
and partners.'' Fittingly during your testimony you stated, ``one of 
our biggest deterrence opportunities is with our allies and partners . 
. . .we've seen a bow wave of allies and partners who want come and be 
part of SPACECOM and part of the space enterprise.'' Understanding that 
both the United States and China are actively competing and seeking to 
work with allies and partners in the space domain, in your personal 
opinion, how could the United States use our existing comparative 
advantage in space launch to further collaborate with our allies and 
partners on their space-based capabilities?
    General Dickinson. Space launch is a key comparative strength for 
the U.S., and it is a vital component of our whole-of-government 
approach to cooperation with our allies and partners. Beyond our space 
launch capabilities, we cooperate with our allies and partners in areas 
like Space Situational Awareness data sharing as a part of our holistic 
work to deepen and strengthen long-term partnerships.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                         hypersonic development
    43. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Richard, are you confident that the 
United States' hypersonic testing facilities are sufficiently well-
maintained and modern to meet the demands of hypersonic development? If 
not, please identify the most concerning areas of insufficiency.
    Admiral Richard. Today, the DOD can adequately test current 
hypersonic prototypes. However, additional investment is needed to meet 
future hypersonic acquisition program and operational test requirements 
along with the accelerated prototyping program schedules.
    The Test Resource Management Center (TRMC), responsible for 
assessing the readiness of the DOD's test infrastructure, anticipated 
the increased demand for testing hypersonic systems and programmed 
funding to address the most critical hypersonic test infrastructure 
capability and capacity needs.

    44. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Richard, what additional 
investments--including in personnel--are needed to support the testing 
needs across the hypersonic spectrum to better compete with Beijing and 
Moscow? Please explain.
    Admiral Richard. To support developmental and operational testing 
across the hypersonic spectrum, DOD is considering enhancements to 
hypersonic ground test facilities (to include the Arnold Engineering 
Development Complex (AEDC) in Tullahoma, TN), and establishment of 
additional long-range flight corridors to support increased hypersonic 
flight test demand.
    The Joint Hypersonic Transition Office (JHTO) is executing the 
workforce development strategy to advance current training, and 
leveraging university expertise to accelerate development of the next 
generation hypersonic workforce.
                 nuclear modernization and sustainment
    45. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Richard, please provide specific 
examples of potential consequences to STRATCOM if we do not modernize 
our nuclear enterprise's aging infrastructure. Would STRATCOM be able 
to field an effective deterrent?
    Admiral Richard. The continued, chronic underfunding of the 
maintenance and modernization of the Nation's nuclear weapons 
infrastructure is the single greatest risk to strategic deterrence. Not 
providing the needed resources to recapitalize invites the very real 
risk of losing the capacity to field a credible and effective nuclear 
deterrent, at a time when our adversaries are modernizing and expanding 
their own nuclear capabilities. This significantly degrades the U.S.'s 
long-term ability to achieve strategic deterrence, extended deterrence, 
and non-proliferation objectives. Once these capabilities are lost it 
will take 15-20+ years to recapitalize them. We must be cognizant of 
the operational implications and national risks of any decision to not 
fund or divest any capability--and we must have a comprehensive threat-
based strategy review to ensure this capability will not be needed for 
at least a generation.
                    ground-based strategic deterrent
    46. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Richard, how--specifically--could 
the Air Force best capitalize on the Ground-based Strategic Deterrent's 
(GBSD) modularity and open-system architecture when implementing future 
program upgrades?
    Admiral Richard. Defer to the Air Force regarding the GBSD 
program's technical details.

    47. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Richard, in what ways could GBSD's 
modularity and open-system architecture inform other current and future 
DOD systems' approaches to cost savings and mid-life flexibility? 
Please explain.
    Admiral Richard. Defer to the Air Force regarding the GBSD 
program's technical details
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                                 china
    48. Senator Hawley. General Dickinson, Secretary of Defense Lloyd 
Austin has written that we need to maintain combat-credible forward 
forces in order to deter or, if necessary, deny a Chinese fait accompli 
against Taiwan. How do you see our forces in space contributing to 
deterrence by denial against China?
    General Dickinson. At Secretary Austin's direction, USSPACECOM has 
begun establishing the necessary posture to both deter China and 
prepare to support the Joint fight, regardless of where our 
capabilities are required. Our current and future on-orbit space 
capabilities will enable the Joint Force to operate in a contested 
environment, increase resilience in our space architecture, and enhance 
our on-orbit counter-space capabilities. In addition, we are working 
with USINDOPACOM, USCENTCOM, and USEUCOM to address gaps in our 
forward-deployed space control posture in their AORs. Concurrently, 
we're continuing our efforts to maintain and grow our regional 
architecture of key allies and partners, assuring access, space 
operations, and capability sharing when we'll need it the most. Apart 
from those efforts, we must remember USSPACECOM's AOR is global in 
nature, and our warfighters will not only reside in the USINDOPACOM AOR 
but positioned in operations centers around the world. Our personnel 
provide critical space capabilities from on-orbit and terrestrial 
assets ready to support the Joint fight, globally, from the first 
moment, unencumbered by the need to deploy or relocate.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy Tuberville
                             u.s. spacecom
    49. Senator Tuberville. General Dickinson, once the Inspector 
General (IG) investigation and environmental study are completed, can 
SPACECOM recruit and hire civilians directly in Huntsville, Alabama and 
not have to relocate them from Colorado?
    General Dickinson. The Secretary of the Air Force's final basing 
decision, which is pending the environmental study, is the determining 
factor for recruiting and hiring civilians in Huntsville, Alabama. My 
intent is to reach full operational capability at our permanent 
location as expediently as practicable, without essential mission 
degradation, all within the guidance, direction, and authority of the 
Department of Defense leaders involved in the ongoing establishment of 
United States Space Command. Mission readiness depends on the 
availability of both people and equipment; therefore, I directed my 
staff to posture the command for transition to the permanent location 
as soon as practicable, without degradation to our missions, after the 
SECAF completes the basing decision process. We will not know what 
percentage of civilian employees may choose to transfer locations until 
after the SECAF confirms the outcome of the basing decision process, 
and without that information, we cannot calculate an accurate cost of 
relocation.

    50. Senator Tuberville. General Dickinson, if we, as a country, 
want to accelerate your readiness, save taxpayer money, and prevent 
having to relocate employees, would further delay to the final SPACECOM 
basing decision be detrimental to those goals?
    General Dickinson. The Secretary of the Air Force's (SecAF) final 
basing decision will enable initial design of the consolidated 
headquarters facility, relocation of personnel, and the hiring of human 
capital to the permanent headquarters location. I appreciate that the 
Air Force is adhering to the basing process, including compliance with 
NEPA, which takes time. Ensuring that we reach full operational 
capability is my priority. Therefore, I have directed my staff to 
posture the command for transition to the permanent location as soon as 
practicable, without degradation to our missions, after the SecAF makes 
the final basing decision.

    51. Senator Tuberville. General Dickinson, is it true that the 
taxpayer savings moving SPACECOM to Redstone Arsenal, AL results in a 
35 percent one-time savings for the move and 25 percent annual cost 
savings over 20 years?
    General Dickinson. I will defer basing process questions to the 
SecAF, who has the authority for selecting the permanent location for 
USSPACECOM Headquarters. Analysis to understand the impact of a 
transition to Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL is underway. My staff 
is looking hard at timelines, anticipated impacts to human capital, 
facilities, and mission with a goal of minimizing risk to mission while 
being good stewards of the taxpayers' money. Once we have a final 
basing decision, we will be able to provide and discuss the full 
analysis.

 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, APRIL 22, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

     UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND AND UNITED STATES AFRICA COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m., in 
room SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Manchin, 
Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, 
Sullivan, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order.
    This morning the Committee will receive testimony from 
General McKenzie, Commander, United States Central Command, 
CENTCOM, and General Townsend, Commander, United States Africa 
Command, or AFRICOM. Thank you both for your many decades of 
military service, and please extend our appreciation to the men 
and women serving under you, and we appreciate very much their 
sacrifice and the sacrifice of their families on behalf of the 
United States.
    Last week, in one of the most challenging decisions facing 
President Biden, he announced the withdrawal of all forces from 
Afghanistan by September 11, 2021. It appears the President 
concluded that more troops might buy more time and casualties, 
but more time would not create a government that could defeat 
the Taliban and effectively govern Afghanistan. The President's 
decision, however, should be seen as a transition, not closure, 
and should not mean an end to our counterterrorism efforts. 
Most importantly, we must ensure that Afghanistan will not be a 
source of planning, plotting, or projection of terrorist 
attacks around the globe, including against the Homeland, and, 
General McKenzie, I would be interested in hearing your 
thoughts on how best to transition to a new counterterrorism 
architecture in the region to continue to degrade al Qaeda, 
ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria] of Khorasan Province, 
and other terrorist groups, and prevent their ability to attack 
the Homeland.
    Additionally, support to the Afghan forces will remain 
vital. The intelligence community's Annual Threat Assessment 
for 2021 noted, ``The Afghan Government will struggle to hold 
the Taliban at bay if the coalition withdraws support.'' I 
would like to understand plans to continue training and 
assistance to the Afghan forces in light of the transition, and 
how we will balance that against the need to conduct robust 
oversight of funding that we provide to the Afghan Government 
and forces.
    General McKenzie, you are also facing a complex challenge 
of deterring the threat from Iran and its proxies while the 
Administration seeks a diplomatic solution to contain the 
Iranian nuclear threat. I would be interested to hear an update 
on your progress in meeting these challenges, particularly 
against the backdrop of indirect talks in Vienna, and the 
recent attack on the Natanz nuclear facility, and Iran's 
announcement that they have begun enriching uranium up to 60 
percent, which would move it closer than ever before to the 90 
percent purity threshold required for weapons-grade uranium.
    Turning to AFRICOM, General Townsend, you have said that 
Al-Shabab is the largest and most violent of al Qaeda's 
branches worldwide, yet the previous Administration chose, with 
little notice, to remove the vast majority of United States 
troops from Somalia. The Biden Administration is now reviewing 
that decision as part of a larger assessment of our strategy in 
Somalia. I hope you will share your views on the current 
security situation as well as the status of our engagement with 
our Somali partners, particularly in light of news this week 
that the Somali federal government has extended the mandates of 
the president and parliament by 2 years. This move directly 
undermines the progress made on democratic processes and 
institutional reforms, and may threaten international support.
    As you noted in your testimony, Africa is a vast continent 
of opportunity and promise, but one that includes many 
strategic challenges, many of which are overlapping also. 
Population growth, food insecurity, and impacts from climate 
change increase instability, drive conflict, and further 
threaten vulnerable populations. These challenges do not lend 
themselves to geographic or bureaucratic boundaries. They 
require well-resourced and well-integrated whole-of-government 
solutions. I look forward to your views on the importance of 
investing in diplomacy and development to force long-term 
stability, as well as an update on AFRICOM's support to the 
Interagency in these efforts.
    Our competitors recognize that investing in Africa and the 
Middle East is in their long-term interests, as evidenced by 
Chinese and Russian military and economic activity that 
continues to grow in these critical regions. General Townsend 
and General McKenzie, I look forward to hearing your views and 
how we best leverage U.S. views--U.S. engagement, rather, and 
investments to create attractive alternatives and ensure we 
maintain key partnerships and access. I want to thank you again 
for being here this morning, and I look forward to your 
testimony.
    Before I turn it over to the ranking member, Senator 
Inhofe, I would like to remind my colleagues that there will be 
an informal classified briefing immediately following this 
session in SVC-217, the Office of Senate Security Center. 
Senator Inhofe?

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Over the past few 
years, this Committee's top priority has been ensuring that we 
implement the--there it is--this document. It has been kind of 
a surprise that something that was put together back in 2018 by 
an equal number of Democrats and Republicans has been so 
accurate, and we have been using that as a blueprint. If we are 
serious about the security of our Nation, we need resources to 
make the--this National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) 
happen, make it a reality. The President's Budget request does 
not meet this standard. Instead, it represents a decline in 
defense spending, which will have serious implications for our 
national security. It also means our combatant commanders will 
have to do more with less, so the standard that was put forth 
was not met by the President. Our top military commanders have 
testified in unison in recent weeks that the threats to the 
United States are growing at an alarming rate. Cutting the 
defense budget sends exactly the wrong signals to our allies 
and our adversaries alike.
    General Townsend, you highlighted China's growth in--
growing use in Africa as a power projection platform for the 
military. They have secured their first overseas base in 
Djibouti. We have been there. We have witnessed that. They are 
aggressively pursuing a base on Africa's west coast, which 
would be the first time, giving China an enduring naval 
presence in the southern Atlantic. With less than 6,000 troops 
on the continent and the continued lack of Intelligence, 
Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR), I hope Department of 
Defense's (DOD) Global Posture Review will ensure your resource 
shortfalls are being addressed. In CENTCOM, we have the 
opposite problem. It gets significant resources to counter al 
Qaeda, ISIS, and the Iranian-backed terrorists.
    General McKenzie, in the last year, I understand you have 
been able to reduce U.S. troop levels in the region, but I 
worry this Administration's policies in your region are driven 
more by politics than the national security. First, in 
Afghanistan, the Administration is, by its own admission, 
executing a calendar-based drawdown rather than a condition-
based one. We know this is true, and we have talked about this 
for quite a period of time. General McKenzie, you recently 
stated that the Taliban still has to take action to meet the 
conditions for United States troop withdrawal of the February 
2020 agreement. The arbitrary September the 11th deadline for 
troop drawdown risks a power vacuum that terrorists will 
dominate and use to threaten our Homeland again. I want to add 
here that I am extremely disappointed that General Miller has 
not yet been scheduled to testify publicly before this 
Committee, and I hope that you will work to fix that, General 
McKenzie.
    Secondly, regarding Iran. The Administration is moving 
quickly to negotiate a quick return to the failed 2015 Iran 
deal granting Tehran large sanctions relief, even though the 
nuclear limitations will begin to expire within the next 5 
years. As we saw during the Obama Administration, Iran will use 
sanctions relief to fund terrorist groups, including the ones 
currently targeting the men and women in uniform that you 
command. Third, in Yemen, the Administration is pulling back 
from our Saudi partners, while, at the same time, the Iran-
backed Houthis are escalating their attacks. We should not 
expect the Saudis to tolerate a perpetual Houthi ballistic 
missile that--an armed drone threat on our border. We would not 
tolerate one on our border. So the United States arms sales 
restrictions could very well lead the Saudis to seek support 
from our peer competitors. General McKenzie, I hope you will 
address these issues and offer your views on how to heighten 
risk of that and manage that in the year ahead.
    So I thank both of you for your testimony and your presence 
here today, and also in the closed session that we will have, 
as the chairman mentioned. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe, and let me concur 
with the ranking member. We have been pressing the Department 
for General Miller to testify in an open hearing on Afghanistan 
well before the decision was made by President Biden with 
respect to forces in Afghanistan. Now with that decision, it is 
even more important that we receive direct, in-person 
communication from General Miller. The last time we had such an 
open hearing was, I believe, with General Nicholson in 2017, so 
we need to carry out our duties, the direct contact, and I will 
once again, General McKenzie, ask for your assistance and relay 
that message, and hopefully General Miller will be here very 
shortly.
    With that, let me now recognize the witnesses, beginning 
with General McKenzie. Thank you, sir.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL KENNETH F. McKENZIE, JR., USMC, COMMANDER, 
                 UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND

    General McKenzie. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished Members of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I 
appear before you proudly representing the 70,000 men and women 
of the United States Central Command. It is a great pleasure to 
be with you here today. It is my duty to testify, of course, 
but I have to say it is also a privilege to address this body, 
and all the greater honor to do so beside the commander of 
United States Africa Command, General Steve Townsend. I would 
also like to recognize my senior enlisted leader, Fleet Master 
Chief Jamie Herdel of the Navy, who is here with me today, as 
well as chief legislative assistant, Air Force Colonel Jen 
Hlavaty.
    Since my last testimony, the region has continued to 
evolve, and it remains as dynamic as ever. With the President's 
announcement last week, we are focused on working closely with 
the Afghan Government and our National Atlantic Treaty 
Organization (NATO) allies to responsibly conclude our Resolute 
Support Mission in Afghanistan. This is my main effort at 
present, but it is not my only responsibility. My prepared 
statement addresses our other missions in some detail.
    The United States and our NATO allies sent forces to 
Afghanistan nearly 20 years ago, and the President has judged 
the time is now appropriate to redeploy and reposition these 
forces so that they are better arrayed to deter adversaries and 
respond to threats globally, including those in the CENTCOM 
Command region. Our singular purpose in Afghanistan has been to 
ensure that al Qaeda and other violent extremist organizations 
would never again plot, prepare, and perpetrate attacks against 
the United States and our allies from the refuge of that 
country. The campaign has evolved considerably over the years, 
from Active combat operations with United States and NATO 
forces in the lead, to advisory efforts designed to enhance the 
Afghan national defense and security forces' ability to conduct 
their own campaigns against violent extremist organizations. 
That there has not been another 9/11 is not an accident. It is 
the cumulative product of these efforts.
    We will now conclude our Afghanistan-based advise and 
support mission. We are further planning now for continued 
counterterrorism operations from within the region, ensuring 
that the violent extremist organizations fighting for their 
existence in the hinterlands of Afghanistan remain under 
persistent surveillance and pressure. Ever since 12 September 
2001 when our allies invoked Article 5 of the North Atlantic 
Treaty, we have done everything in Afghanistan within a 
partnership framework, and that will not change in the months 
ahead. We are planning collaboratively with our interagency and 
international partners and will take measures to ensure the 
safe and orderly withdrawal of all of our forces and those of 
our partners. This includes positioning significant combat 
power to guard against the possibility that the Taliban decides 
to interfere in any way with our orderly redeployment.
    I would now like to briefly summarize some other challenges 
in the region.
    While Iran has itself avoided state-on-state attacks on 
United States Forces since last January's strikes on the Al 
Asad and Erbil air bases, it continues to menace regional 
partners and the free flow of commerce through the use of 
proxies and the proliferation of armed, unmanned aerial systems 
and other munitions. Its pursuit of regional hegemony remains 
the greatest source of instability across the Middle East. In 
Iraq and Syria, the campaign to eliminate the threat posed by 
ISIS has entered a new phase. In Iraq, we are engaged in a 
strategic dialogue with the Iraqi Government to determine the 
nature of our security relationship. ISIS' physical caliphate 
is no more, but its toxic ideology lives on. The problem is 
especially acute in communities ravaged by conflict and its 
sprawling camps for displaced persons where ISIS preys upon 
vulnerable populations.
    What has accelerated in the last year is the influence of 
China and Russia, who, each in their own way, are attempting to 
subvert the rules-based international order and to gain 
strategic influence in the Middle East. China's activity in the 
region takes the form of economic investment, arm sales, and 
other overtures. Russia has made an 18th century power play in 
Syria, propping up the murderous Assad regime. The Middle East 
remains key terrain, and I believe China and Russia will 
continue to expand their efforts to improve their position in 
the region and diminish United States standing wherever 
possible.
    The CENTCOM area of responsibility is the most cyber-
contested theater in the world. It is also the proving ground 
for the proliferation and employment of unmanned weaponized 
systems, many emanating from Iran. This difficult and complex 
operational environment provides units inside CENTCOM 
opportunities to operate and to conduct realistic training 
within an environment that exists nowhere else in the world. I 
can state as a matter of fact that the units and ships assigned 
to CENTCOM are as ready as any in the Joint Force.
    The weeks and months ahead will see us execute a very 
complicated and demanding military operation to withdraw United 
States and NATO forces from Afghanistan. This is presently the 
main effort of my command, and we have the tools necessary to 
accomplish this task. With that, I look forward to answering 
your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General McKenzie follows:]

         Prepared Statement by General Kenneth F. McKenzie, Jr.
                              introduction
    United States Central Command's (USCENTCOM) mission--to direct and 
enable military operations and activities with allies and partners to 
increase regional security and stability in support of U.S. enduring 
interests--remains as valid and vital to our Nation today as ever 
before. While acknowledging military force is not the principal answer 
to the region's challenges, our presence in the region provides 
advantage, opportunity and leverage for U.S. diplomats to operate from 
a position of strength, prevents losing ground to our global 
competitors, and protects the security of the American people by 
meeting challenges abroad from state and non-state adversaries who 
threaten the U.S. and our allies, attempt to destabilize the USCENTCOM 
area of responsibility (AOR), and inhibit access to the global commons.
    USCENTCOM aligns with the President's Interim National Security 
Strategic Guidance (INSSG) to work with like-minded allies and partners 
to advance our shared interests to address the four global challenges 
that manifest across the USCENTCOM AOR: China, Russia, Iran, and 
Violent Extremist Organizations (VEOs). Maintaining an effective 
posture to meet these challenges requires making hard choices. While 
China will remain our Nation's pacing competitor for the foreseeable 
future, the main challenges USCENTCOM faces in its AOR occur in the 
present. Iran's destabilizing actions reverberate through the region 
daily. Iran has not indulged in idle saber rattling against the United 
States and our partners. Iran has launched state-on-state ballistic 
missile, cruise missile, and unmanned aerial system (UAS) attacks, as 
well as attacks through its proxies and aligned groups that have killed 
and injured Coalition forces and innocent civilians; those attacks are 
increasingly directed at key United States partners. Every day across 
the AOR, VEOs like al Qaeda and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria 
(ISIS) operate without respect for borders or consequence, creating 
instability and human suffering in an attempt to destroy sovereign 
nations to remake them in their own twisted vision. Where gaps open, 
China and Russia pursue steady economic and military measures that 
encroach on United States presence and influence in the region.
    None of these current threats to our United States national 
interests are approaching sunset, and they all continue to unfold with 
speed and unpredictability. Since the beginning of the year, Iranian-
aligned militia groups (IAMGs) in Iraq and Syria likely conducted more 
than 50 improvised explosive device attacks against Iraqi-operated, 
Coalition-contracted logistical convoys, and nine indirect fire attacks 
against United States diplomatic facilities or Iraqi military bases 
hosting United States and Coalition personnel. Protracted conflicts 
across the AOR and the destruction of government services and 
infrastructure have caused large-scale humanitarian crises. More than 
20 million displaced people are spread across the USCENTCOM AOR, 
representing one fourth of the nearly 80 million people displaced 
globally. Millions sought refuge in neighboring countries, many of 
which struggle with their own economic and social challenges, while 
millions more internally displaced persons (IDPs) struggle to find 
daily sustenance. Meanwhile, the underlying socio-economic factors that 
sparked the ``Arab Spring'' movements in 2011 persist and contribute to 
recurring unrest.
    The way forward requires a whole-of-government approach applying 
all of the elements of U.S. national power to address the underlying 
conditions threatening stability. Alongside our U.S. interagency 
partners, USCENTCOM will continue to work with allies and partners to 
set the conditions for diplomacy and development. By advancing our 
shared interests and coming together to face shared threats, USCENTCOM 
develops capable regional partners to act as guarantors of their own 
security and sovereignty, able to secure their own borders and ensure 
their internal stability.
                           strategic approach
    USCENTCOM's actions and activities across the AOR run the spectrum 
from cooperation and collaboration, to competition and conflict. To 
ensure synchronization throughout our ongoing missions, we align our 
operations, activities, and investments along three lines of effort. 
These lines of effort support Department of Defense (DOD) and U.S. 
Government priorities and are aligned with DOD guidance and the INSSG.
    Recognizing the importance of enhancing stability throughout the 
region, USCENTCOM's first line of effort is to deter Iranian aggression 
against United States Forces and interests, and strengthen our 
partners' capabilities to defend themselves against Iranian and proxy 
and aligned group aggression. USCENTCOM's second line of effort is 
aligned against the persistent challenge of disrupting and degrading 
VEOs that destabilize the region and threaten the U.S Homeland, our 
vital interests, and our partners and allies. USCENTCOM considers this 
an enduring effort covering a wide range of operations and activities 
from active campaigns against al Qaeda, ISIS, and other VEOs in the 
region, to supporting whole-of-government solutions to ensure good 
governance and to thwart efforts by ISIS and VEOs to radicalize and 
make appeals to vulnerable populations, including refugees and IDPs. 
Success in this campaign is not defined as the absence of violence. It 
is militarily impossible to defeat an ideology, but when force is 
required, we will employ it alongside international and local partners 
wherever possible to bolster effectiveness and legitimacy, share 
burdens, and invest others in success.
    Our third line of effort is long-term strategic competition with 
China, combined with countering Russia. Both nations leverage their 
proximity to the region, historical relations, and a perceived decline 
in United States engagement to establish and strengthen opportunistic 
relationships. China and Russia each seek ends in their own self-
interest using different approaches. Russia plays the part of spoiler 
to the United States, using military means, influence operations and 
grey-zone activities to undermine and disrupt U.S. influence and 
reassert its own global influence. China uses predominantly economic 
means to establish regional in-roads, with a long-term goal of 
expanding its military presence to secure vital routes of energy and 
trade.
                    line of effort 1--deterring iran
    Iran views the United States presence in the region as the greatest 
threat toward achieving its ambition of regional hegemony. The regime 
uses a combination of coercion and IAMG violence to bring about the 
removal of United States Forces from Iraq, despite United States and 
Coalition forces being in Iraq at the request of the Government of Iraq 
(GoI). Iran's political maneuverings toward this end have failed to 
date, while the United States and GOI continue strategic dialogue to 
maintain momentum in the Global Defeat ISIS (D-ISIS) campaign.
    Iran currently possesses one of the most capable militaries in the 
Middle East, and its offensive capabilities include nearly 3,000 short- 
and long-range ballistic missiles as well as an array of land-attack 
cruise missiles (LACMs) and UASs. The Iranian regime demonstrated both 
the capability and willingness to employ all of these offensive weapons 
in complex attacks against Saudi Arabia's oil facilities in 2019, and 
again against United States Forces in Iraq in 2020.
    Iran provides weapons, parts, and expertise to Houthi forces in 
Yemen for the purpose of attacking Saudi Arabia. Since January 2021, 
Iranian-aided Houthi forces have launched more than 150 ballistic 
missile, LACM, and one-way UAS attacks against military, 
infrastructure, and civilian targets in Saudi Arabia. These attacks 
have varied in scope and complexity, with UAS detection and 
interdiction particularly challenging not just for Saudi forces, but 
also for United States and Coalition forces supporting Saudi Arabia's 
defense. These small- and medium-sized UAS proliferating across the AOR 
present a new and complex threat to our forces and those of our 
partners and allies. For the first time since the Korean War, we are 
operating without complete air superiority. As a result, USCENTCOM has 
made the counter-UAS effort one of its top priorities, and employs a 
variety of systems and tactics to defeat these threats. Until we are 
able to develop and field a networked capability to detect and defeat 
UAS, the advantage will remain with the attacker.
    USCENTCOM remains committed to helping defend Saudi Arabia. United 
States assistance to the Kingdom focuses on providing information to 
Saudi Arabia's armed forces to assist them in thwarting Houthi UAV, 
ballistic missile, and explosive boat attacks that contravene 
international law and undermine diplomatic efforts. USCENTCOM does not 
provide offensive military support to the Saudi-led Coalition. Saudi 
Arabia understands that the only way to end the Houthi UAV and missile 
attacks is to end the war in Yemen. Deputy Minister of Defense Khalid 
bin Salman and other senior Saudi officials have engaged consistently 
and constructively with United States. Special Envoy Tim Lenderking and 
UN Special Envoy Martin Griffiths in an effort to find a negotiated end 
to the conflict. Under a proposed UN agreement, which Saudi Arabia has 
publicly endorsed, parties would agree to a nationwide ceasefire in 
exchange for the opening of Hudaydah Port and Sanaa Airport, then 
transition to political talks. USCENTCOM supports these diplomatic 
efforts and remains postured to support a UN-backed ceasefire if 
directed.
    However, international efforts to end the war have been met with 
political intransigence and more Houthi attacks, including a sustained 
ground Houthi offensive to seize Marib, an attack targeting the 
Republic of Yemen Government Parliament while it was deplaning in Aden, 
and unprecedented missile and UAS strikes against civilian targets in 
Saudi Arabia. The Iranian regime's provisioning of lethal aid to the 
Houthis to enable such attacks prolongs the conflict in Yemen, 
exacerbates regional tensions, threatens the security of Saudi Arabia, 
and extends the suffering of the Yemeni people who are subject to 
widespread food and water shortages, malnutrition, and insufficient 
healthcare services.
    In addition to USCENTCOM's regular force posture, the theater 
benefits from Dynamic Force Employment missions (DFE); Agile Combat 
Employment (ACE); and a balanced, visible maritime presence. Strategic 
bomber task force missions flown no-notice from bases in the United 
States to the Gulf from the fall of 2020 to the present and two 
fighter-squadron deployments demonstrate DFE over-the-horizon power 
projection, exercise seamless and rapid operational coordination 
between multiple combatant commands. They also enhance integration with 
numerous partners and allies across the region. Developing the 
capability to arm and fuel Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps aircraft 
from austere, expeditionary air bases in the Arabian Peninsula provides 
an example of how USCENTCOM generates and exercises ACE capabilities in 
an active combat theater. Meanwhile, U.S. carrier strike groups and 
other strategic maritime capabilities operating wherever international 
law allows provide USCENTCOM the flexibility of U.S.-sovereign 
deterrent options free from access, basing, or overflight restrictions.
    As Iran's ballistic missile force is the most formidable in the 
region, USCENTCOM's missile defense assets incorporate Patriots, 
Sentinel and Avenger systems, and Navy cruisers/destroyers to form a 
layered defense, augmented by Theater High-Altitude Air Defense when 
ordered. Since Gulf nations field nearly 80 percent of all regional 
air-defense systems, USCENTCOM is working to develop a long-term, 
regionally-aligned effort focused on a centralized integrated air and 
missile defense (IAMD).
    Other active and passive defense efforts to safeguard United States 
Forces, deter Iranian destabilizing actions, and provide regional 
safety and security include:
      Critical mine countermeasure capabilities provided with 
Avenger-class mine countermeasure ships and MH-53E Sea Dragon heavy-
lift helicopters help maintain freedom of navigation for U.S. and 
merchant shipping.
      ISR (Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance) 
platforms, such as our MQ-9s, are highly useful in monitoring and 
identifying potential threats or malign activities, providing early 
warning and attribution.
      Pursuing opportunities to enhance expeditionary basing in 
less vulnerable portions of the USCENTCOM AOR.
      Conducting analysis on bunker hardening proposals and 
implementing blast mitigation measures to improve protective shelters 
within missile range and mitigate the risk of traumatic brain injury in 
the event of missile and rocket attacks.
      Counter Rocket Artillery and Mortar and Patriot missile 
systems that provide proven, effective ground-based air-defense 
platforms critical for U.S. and partner self-defense.
    In addition, as the U.S. footprint in the AOR evolves, legacy KC-
135 and replacement KC-46 refueling capabilities will continue to play 
a critical role, enhancing USCENTCOM's ability to execute essential 
missions across a vast region with limited suitable airfields.
      line of effort 2--countering violent extremist organizations
Countering Violent Extremist Organizations--Afghanistan
    The United States strategic objective in Afghanistan, as it has 
been since 2001, is to ensure Afghanistan does not again become a safe 
haven for terrorist attacks against the United States and our allies 
and partners. Success toward this objective and the path to lasting 
peace remains an Afghan-owned, Afghan-led process to achieve a 
political settlement and comprehensive ceasefire between the Taliban 
and the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (GIRoA). 
USCENTCOM remains steadfast in support of ongoing interagency and 
diplomatic efforts to achieve a negotiated political settlement, and is 
committed to working with our regional partners to ensure our ability 
to counter a potential reemergence of terrorist threats against the 
Homeland.
    Pursuant to President Biden's April 14 policy announcement, 
USCENTCOM will execute a deliberate and orderly withdrawal of remaining 
United States troops in Afghanistan before the 20th anniversary of 
September 11. We will execute this withdrawal in lockstep with our NATO 
allies and partners in a manner that ensures the safety of our people 
and security of our assets. We went in together, adjusted together, and 
will prepare to leave together. USCENTCOM's key focus during the 
withdrawal will be management of the transition and the safety of U.S., 
as well as NATO ally and partner personnel as they depart the country. 
We have told the Taliban in no uncertain terms that any attacks on 
United States troops as we undergo a safe and orderly withdrawal will 
be met with a forceful response.
    The Afghanistan Security Forces Fund (ASFF) is the primary source 
of funds for the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) 
and remains a critical resource to Security Force Assistance, enabling 
an effective, affordable, and sustainable ANDSF. As the President has 
said, while we will not stay involved in Afghanistan militarily, we 
will continue to support the government of Afghanistan and keep 
providing assistance to the ANDSF. Overseeing the responsible execution 
of ASFF has been, and will continue to be, a team effort. USCENTCOM is 
committed to working with interagency partners to develop mechanisms 
that ensure continued oversight of and accountability for ASFF.
    As we finalize this mission, I must express my deepest gratitude to 
those Americans who served and sacrificed on behalf of our Nation. I 
realize that not all of our troops returned from their deployments 
while others returned home wounded and forever changed. My deepest 
admiration and respect goes out to our heroes and their families.
Countering Violent Extremist Organizations--Iraq and Syria
    United States and Coalition Forces remain in Iraq at the request of 
the GOI for one purpose--to ensure the defeat of ISIS. In July 2020, 
Coalition forces under command of Combined Joint Task Force-Operation 
Inherent Resolve (CJTF-OIR) began Phase IV of the Global D-ISIS 
campaign in Iraq and Syria, transitioning from a focus on tactical-
level Train, Advise, and Assist (TAA), to a focus on advising and 
enabling partner forces at the operational and strategic levels. This 
partnering model in Iraq uses a centralized advising approach toward 
the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) at higher echelons of command. The 
Coalition established the Military Advisory Group co-located with the 
Iraqi Joint Operations Command to provide on-site intelligence, 
operations, logistics, fires, and air support from a central location.
    Iraqi Security Forces continue to make great progress, due in large 
part to the D-ISIS Coalition's investment in training and equipping 
thousands of Iraqi troops. Many ISF units are now capable of 
independently planning large-scale operations and executing with 
Coalition enablers. Operation READY LION was a 14-day Counter Terrorism 
(CT) mission conducted in March 2021 to clear ISIS remnants from 
mountain strongholds in northeast Iraq. This ISF planned and led 
operation, aided by Coalition enablers, eliminated nearly 200 ISIS hide 
locations. As our recent Strategic Dialogue with Iraq made clear, the 
transition of the United States and other international forces to 
training, equipping, and assisting the ISF reflects the success of 
their strategic partnership and supports the ISF's continued efforts to 
ensure ISIS can never again threaten Iraq's stability.
    USCENTCOM also established the Special Operations Advisory Group to 
provide similar advisory support to the Iraqi Counter-Terrorism 
Service, one of our most effective partners in targeting ISIS 
leadership. Other necessary enabling functions include ISR and air 
strike capabilities still in nascent development in the ISF.
    USCENTCOM recognizes that efforts to stabilize Iraq must go beyond 
CJTF-OIR's D-ISIS campaign and address the root causes of instability. 
NATO's contribution, through NATO Mission Iraq (NMI) is a separate, but 
complementary mission of Security Sector Reform targeting the 
institutional capacity of Iraq's Ministry of Defense. This mission is 
vital to taking advantage of the Coalition's hard-won gains in Iraq. 
Bolstering CJTF-OIR's efforts of advising and enabling partner forces, 
NMI is a non-combat mission that seeks to build the institutional 
governance of, and professionalize, the ISF at the senior levels. As 
CJTF-OIR's mission matures through Phase IV, NMI's role within Iraq 
will grow. The North Atlantic Council projects NMI's eventual end 
strength to expand considerably, contingent on the GoI's continued 
approval. USCENTCOM and NATO staffs collaborate frequently to ensure 
close coordination, and CJTF-OIR maintains two planners within the NMI 
staff to coordinate future efforts.
    In Syria, efforts by Global Coalition partners and the Syrian 
Democratic Forces (SDF) were critical in the territorial defeat of 
ISIS, and these partners remain essential to the ongoing D-ISIS 
campaign. Throughout 2020, the ongoing Syrian civil war, long-term 
displacement of civilians, destabilizing influence of Iran, disruptive 
role of Russia, and COVID pandemic complicated efforts to bring about 
the enduring defeat of ISIS in Syria. Despite these obstacles, our SDF 
partners continue to make progress against ISIS as the Coalition 
continues to provide enabling support while developing capabilities for 
the SDF to operate independently. Partnered operations focus on 
enhancing planning, command and control capabilities, and the provision 
of key enablers for success to include ISR and medical support.
    Notwithstanding significant attrition to its senior leadership and 
difficulties generating sufficient revenue, ISIS remains a learning, 
adaptive, and committed VEO with a dedicated core. It promotes a global 
cyber presence while retaining a cellular structure that allows it to 
carry out local attacks--with the ultimate aspiration to reestablish a 
physical ``caliphate.''
    Constant surveillance and consistent pressure by the ISF in Iraq 
and SDF in Syria, enabled by United States and Coalition forces, have 
prevented ISIS from conducting or enabling external attacks against the 
United States and its allies. As USCENTCOM's D-ISIS campaign continues 
we assess attacks inspired, enabled, or conducted by ISIS will continue 
in the form of an insurgency. Our objective is to develop and enable 
the ability of the ISF in Iraq and SDF in Syria to address and contain 
these threats without external assistance. Throughout 2021, our partner 
forces will continue to benefit from a range of financial and materiel 
support provided through the Counter-ISIS Train and Equip Fund (CTEF) 
program that provided $701 million of critical assistance in 2020.
    As noted in the 2020 congressionally-mandated RAND study, 
``Strategic Evaluation of the Counter Islamic State Train and Equip 
Fund,'' the CTEF program has proven a very effective tool in the Global 
D-ISIS campaign, predominantly because of the flexibility and speed 
with which it can be applied to dynamic conditions in Iraq and Syria. 
Key activities funded by CTEF include the acquisition of niche CT 
capacity for the ISF, support to the SDF, stipends for our Syrian and 
Peshmerga partners, detention facility support, and the repatriation of 
ISIS detainees. CTEF support for Syrian partner forces also facilitates 
ongoing operations to find, fix and finish SIS sleeper cells, and 
maintain control of key terrain and lines of communication in eastern 
Syria.
ISIS Detainees, their Family Members, and Refugees/Internally Displaced 
        Persons
    Two by-products of the Global D-ISIS campaign that cannot be solved 
by the use of military force are the repatriation of foreigners from 
detention centers and displaced persons camps in Northeast Syria and 
the pace of stabilization programs and reintegration of displaced 
people across both Syria and Iraq.
    Presently, the SDF holds nearly 10,000 ISIS fighters, including 
nearly 2,000 hard-core foreign fighters, in more than two dozen 
makeshift detention centers across northeast Syria. Although U.S. 
Forces do not directly supervise these detention activities, we 
mitigate risk using CTEF that helps enable the security of those 
facilities. While the SDF remains capable of responding to external 
attacks and quelling internal riots, threats persist. The SDF cannot, 
and should not be expected to hold these detainees indefinitely. 
Outside of detention centers, thousands of foreign women and children, 
many affiliated with ISIS detainees, are living in displaced persons 
camps. They too need to be repatriated. While several countries have 
taken responsibility to repatriate their own citizens, the overwhelming 
majority of countries have yet to do so.
    Over the last year, increased violence in the Al-Hol displaced 
persons camp in northeast Syria has impeded the SDF's access to, and 
overall safety in, the camp, having a detrimental effect on 
humanitarian conditions. The adverse and insecure conditions create 
increased risk for camp populations and camp administration, as well as 
humanitarian relief organizations and non-governmental organizations 
operating in the camp. Al-Hol, one of the largest displaced persons 
camps in Syria holds nearly 61,000 people. Ninety-four percent of Al-
Hol's occupants are women and children, with two-thirds under the age 
of 18. Besides the near-term risk of an outbreak of disease or other 
conditions that could cause a humanitarian catastrophe, efforts by ISIS 
to radicalize elements of this population pose longer-term concerns.
    Stabilization programs in northeast Syria implemented by USAID and 
DOS have responded to the need for basic services in communities of 
origin to incentivize voluntary, safe, and dignified returns of 
displaced populations and help maintain stability. Current resources 
from all international donors are insufficient to meet demand, 
resulting in a sense of community grievance which extremist elements 
attempt to exploit. This presents opportunities for ISIS to re-emerge 
and increases the risk to the SDF.
Countering Violent Extremist Organizations--Yemen
    The critical United States interest in Yemen resides in maintaining 
our ability to conduct counterterrorism activities against al-Qaida in 
the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) and ISIS-Yemen. Without a lasting 
political solution and accompanying economic recovery, the conflict in 
Yemen will continue to threaten regional security and stability, and 
Yemen will remain a safe haven for VEOs aspiring to threaten United 
States interests and regional stability. USCENTCOM, in partnership with 
Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and the Republic of Yemen Government, has been 
effective in degrading VEO external operations capabilities in Yemen 
over the past several years.
  strategic competition with china and the destabilizing influence of 
                                 russia
    The USCENTCOM AOR is, and always has been, a crossroads of global 
interests and a historically prime arena for foreign powers to compete 
for influence, resources and access. In 2020, China and Russia 
exploited ongoing regional crises, financial and infrastructure needs, 
perceptions of declining United States engagement, and the COVID-19 
pandemic to advance their objectives across the Middle East and Central 
and South Asia (CASA) nations to gain or enhance influence in the 
region.
    China's strategic engagement in the USCENTCOM AOR takes the long 
view with short and long-term objectives in mind. China's current 
interests and approach in the region are predominantly diplomatic and 
economic. China engaged with nearly every country in the AOR in 2020, 
using debt traps, the Belt and Road Initiative, and medical diplomacy 
to create dependence and expand its influence within the AOR. China's 
recent 25-year agreement with Iran could vastly expand Chinese 
influence in Iranian banking, telecommunications, ports, railways and 
dozens of economic projects in exchange for discounted oil. The 
agreement also proposes expanding military cooperation, potentially 
providing China an additional foothold in the Arabian Gulf while also 
undercutting United States efforts to negotiate with Iran. China has 
also emerged as an arms supplier to the region. Attempting to rival the 
United States as a ``partner of choice,'' China sells military 
equipment at discount prices, unencumbered by United States deliberate 
processes, maintenance support packages, and end-use restrictions.
    In 2021, China will continue to strengthen defense cooperation 
throughout the region through arms sales, exercises, and multilateral 
organizations such as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, seeking to 
establish and strengthen trade relationships across the Middle East, 
prioritizing access to energy resources. China's long-term goals are 
not just to cultivate trade relationships, economic investment, and 
comprehensive partnerships among regional states, but to exert coercive 
influence and eventually establish a permanent military presence in an 
area from which it imports nearly 50 percent of its crude oil and 
roughly 40 percent of its natural gas.
    Russia, in contrast, does not play a long game, yet it is equally 
disruptive to the region. Russia seeks to undermine and disrupt United 
States influence to enhance its own, and improve its position on the 
global stage. Russia's engagement in the USCENTCOM AOR is largely 
opportunistic and transactional. Fueled in part by a desire to play 
``spoiler'' to United States interests but also by a set of economic 
factors, Russia maintains oil production agreements and works to expand 
nuclear energy markets, trade, and arms sales. Russia increased its 
activities in Syria by establishing an enduring military presence where 
it regularly interferes with the Global Coalition's D-ISIS campaign, 
and obtaining a warm-water base for its navy in Tartus. Russian 
military expansion in Syria provides it with a proving ground to test 
emerging capabilities, technologies, and fifth-generation equipment 
used for electronic warfare, air defense, UAS, and information 
operations--all in proximity to United States Forces. In September 
2020, USCENTCOM deployed Sentinel radar and Bradley Fighting Vehicles 
to the Eastern Syria Security Area, and increased fighter patrols over 
United States Forces in response to a dangerous increase in 
unauthorized, unsafe Russian interactions threatening Coalition forces. 
Russia will seek ways to challenge United States presence as 
opportunities present themselves, in an effort to position itself as an 
alternative to the West by offering to mediate regional conflicts, 
selling arms without end-use restrictions, offering military expertise, 
and participating in regional and multilateral organizations and 
military exercises. In Central Asia, where proximity to China and 
Russia is great and United States presence is comparatively small, 
every interaction holds significance. Opportunities to compete with 
China and Russia in this region manifest themselves through border 
security, counternarcotics, counterterrorism, and defense institution 
building.
    As China and Russia compete militarily with the United States below 
the level of combat, USCENTCOM develops capabilities to address and 
mitigate gray-zone actions, safeguarding our technology from rivals 
operating in the region. USCENTCOM represents the world's most active 
electromagnetic battlespace and requires a robust interoperability and 
information sharing capability in order to protect U.S., allied, and 
partner critical capabilities as we move forward with collective 
defense initiatives. Adversary jamming of our commercial satellite 
communications allows state and non-state actors to asymmetrically 
contest and complicate U.S. Force projection. The increasing 
computational power and improvements in rival powers' cryptographic 
analysis capabilities makes it imperative that USCENTCOM and our 
partners plan, execute, and implement a cryptographic modernization 
plan to ensure maximum interoperability, mitigate potential cyber-
attacks, and maintain a secure information exchange environment.
                 regional cooperation and partnerships
    As encapsulated in its overall mission, USCENTCOM will continue to 
focus on regional partnerships and cooperation. Two examples of 
maritime partnerships that promote regional collective security and 
demonstrate U.S. commitment to broad relationships and partners in the 
region are the Combined Maritime Force (CMF) and the International 
Maritime Security Construct (IMSC). The 33 nation CMF conducts maritime 
security operations to ensure the free flow of commerce, actively deny 
the use of the high seas to terrorist and illicit networks, and curtail 
illegal shipments of narcotics and lethal aid. The IMSC is a 
cooperation-based framework ensuring safety of maritime shipping and 
the free flow of seaborne commerce through presence, surveillance, and 
attribution of malign activities in international waters in and around 
the Arabian Gulf and the Bab al Mandeb.
    The normalization of relations between Israel and a number of 
Muslim-majority Arab states in 2020 and the realignment of the Unified 
Command Plan (UCP) moving Israel from United States European Command to 
USCENTCOM provide new opportunities for enhancing regional stability 
and security cooperation. The UCP change better aligns the combatant 
command areas of responsibility with the organizational boundaries of 
other federal agencies, creating coordination efficiencies for whole-
of-government efforts in the AOR. USCENTCOM plans to achieve initial 
operating capability and the shift of combatant command authority and 
responsibility by September of 2021. The normalization of relations 
between Israel and other key USCENTCOM partners, manifested initially 
in diplomatic and economic cooperation, reduces tensions and holds 
potential for eventual expansion of military cooperation and alignment 
toward shared threats.
    USCENTCOM's senior defense officials and defense attaches (SDO/
DATT) live, work, and develop close relationships with host nation 
officials in every country in the USCENTCOM AOR except Iran and Syria. 
Our partners place great weight on these relationships, and the 
military rank of our SDO/DATTs conveys respect and importance as to how 
the U.S. views the partnership we have with each nation.
                            covid-19 impacts
    Prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, several governments in the 
USCENTCOM AOR faced growing economic challenges. Most governments 
incurred significant expenditures and revenue losses during the 
pandemic that exacerbated pre-existing socioeconomic conditions 
contributing to deepening popular unrest. Government officials largely 
prioritized efforts to mitigate the spread of the virus over 
implementing needed economic policy reforms. Impacts to regional 
economies will further fuel issues fomenting unrest to include 
provision and equitable distribution of services, medical care, and 
employment.
    Across the AOR, USCENTCOM rapidly responded to the COVID-19 threat, 
implementing non-pharmaceutical interventions, obtaining and 
disseminating personal protective equipment, and adapting newly-
developed treatment guidelines to an austere deployed environment. 
Despite the pandemic, military operations and medical support for 
combat and non-combat casualties remain fully mission capable. 
Extensive public health measures and medical support across the AOR 
resulted in zero COVID-19-related service member deaths.
    In fall 2020, USCENTCOM worked closely with the Joint Staff, 
Defense Health Agency, and Defense Logistics Agency to identify 
requirements for emerging COVID-19 vaccines released under Food and 
Drug Administration Emergency Use Authorization in December 2020. 
USCENTCOM prioritized forward-deployed forces in Afghanistan, Iraq, and 
Syria for early vaccine delivery and voluntary inoculation efforts.
    As of 14 April 2021, over 7,114 cases of COVID-19 were identified 
resulting in 276 personnel medically evacuated from theater. Since 
March 2020, constraints associated with COVID-19 resulted in 
cancellation of 20 Joint or Combined exercises within the USCENTCOM 
AOR, impacting mission readiness and partner-nation collaboration. 
While many events were cancelled due to COVID-19, partners remain 
committed to continuing larger, multinational exercises like Bright 
Star and Eager Lion.
    Refinement of theater deployment physical standards for all 
personnel helped reduce the impact to U.S., Coalition, and partner-
nation civilians. Vaccinations for forward-deployed personnel in 
Afghanistan and the Gulf region began in late January 2021. Continued 
entry of COVID-19 infected personnel, finite quantities of on-hand 
testing consumables, limited quarantine and hospital capacity in 
theater, and irregular resupply remain significant obstacles to 
outbreak prevention and containment. In March, USCENTCOM significantly 
expanded vaccine distribution throughout the AOR with the intent to 
provide COVID-19 vaccines for all DOD personnel, dependents, and 
contractors willing to receive it to provide maximal force health 
protection. We have received a substantial portion of the required 
vaccines to meet that objective. Furthermore, USCENTCOM advocates 
providing COVID-19 vaccines for Coalition and partner forces working 
alongside U.S. Forces. Continuing an aggressive vaccination program for 
forward-deployed units, combined with further emphasis on effective 
pre-deployment restriction of movement and testing, clean transit 
routes into theater, and prioritization of deploying personnel for a 
CONUS-based, Service-led COVID-19 vaccination program will ensure 
continued mission effectiveness forward.
    At USCENTCOM headquarters, restrictions on travel and movement in 
both the AOR and the U.S. impacted face-to-face key leader engagements 
and regular personnel rotations throughout much of 2020. USCENTCOM 
instituted robust teleworking procedures, with on-site staffing reduced 
to 25 percent in March 2020. This percentage increased to 50 percent in 
September 2020. USCENTCOM remains a warfighting headquarters, postured 
to support multiple active campaigns across the AOR. Partial staffing, 
teleworking, and effective uses of technology since March 2020 provided 
short-term solutions to enable safe operations in the headquarters and 
continuous support to forward-deployed formations.
                       taking care of our people
    The USCENTCOM workforce operates at a warfighting tempo, whether 
deployed or working in the Tampa headquarters. The mental and physical 
stressors associated with the demands of our operational environment, 
exacerbated by COVID-19, present significant challenges to our 
workforce. Meeting the mental health and spiritual needs of our people 
regardless of religious affiliation remains a high priority at 
USCENTCOM. Our chaplains provide professional, confidential counseling 
across the USCENTCOM workforce addressing essential matters of the 
heart and soul to include sexual harassment, extremism, personal 
relationships, stress, and suicide prevention.
    Sexual assault and sexual harassment, extremism, and discrimination 
break down the trust and cohesion necessary for the USCENTCOM workforce 
to execute its missions effectively and efficiently. To combat these 
challenges, USCENTCOM places command emphasis on programs that build 
resilience, readiness, and cohesion. It is a leadership responsibility 
to provide a safe work environment, and to hold accountable those who 
seek to disrupt it. USCENTCOM leaders understand it is not just what 
our people hear their leaders say, but what they see their leaders do 
that makes an impact.
    Improving diversity and inclusion across the force is an 
operational imperative to meet the demands of strategic competition. 
USCENTCOM takes deliberate actions to build a diverse workforce 
promoting equality and innovation. USCENTCOM established a Diversity 
and Inclusion position, singularly focused on advising the command on 
all matters relating to discrimination and institutional biases, as 
well as barriers to diversity and inclusion across the organization.
    USCENTCOM remains fully committed to the prevention of sexual 
assault and sexual harassment, improving our command climate and 
prevention efforts in both of these areas. We constantly work to ensure 
both our military and civilian workforce feel comfortable coming 
forward and reporting any concerns, and ensure that leaders at all 
levels take appropriate action to build positive workplace climates.
    USCENTCOM recently completed a command-wide stand down to address 
extremism. These stand downs were led by general/flag rank officers or 
senior civilians, and included virtual training modules featuring 
subject matter experts and facilitated small-group discussions to build 
awareness and help prevent actions associated with extremist behaviors. 
USCENTCOM's leaders are charged with the responsibility to continue 
this dialogue beyond the DOD mandate to make clear that operating in a 
command free of discrimination, hate, and harassment while 
accomplishing our mission is paramount to our success.
    Taking care of our people is a very high priority for me personally 
as the USCENTCOM commander. I speak frequently to my subordinate 
commanders on these matters because this is commander's business. It 
requires the full attention of the chain of command, and in USCENTCOM, 
these critical matters have that full attention.
                               conclusion
    The USCENTCOM AOR remains challenging and dynamic. One constant in 
USCENTCOM remains the strength of our people. As nearly two decades and 
two of the longest conflicts in U.S. history begin to wind down, our 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, coastguardsmen, guardians, 
civilians, and their families remain steadfast in their commitment to 
our mission and the vital roles they serve in U.S. national security. 
Their service and sacrifice over many long years of conflict is 
humbling and inspirational, benefiting the lives of millions across the 
U.S. and the AOR. We honor those who have sacrificed by ensuring the 
mission continues, and their sacrifices were not in vain.
    USCENTCOM fulfills its missions, appreciative of the efforts and 
support of our civilian leadership at the Department of Defense on our 
behalf. We acknowledge the teamwork of the interagency and thank the 
members of Congress, the Defense Committees, and their staffs, without 
whose consistent and timely support we would be unable to accomplish 
our missions in support of U.S. national security interests and the 
will of the American people.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General McKenzie. 
General Townsend, please.

   STATEMENT OF GENERAL STEPHEN J. TOWNSEND, USA, COMMANDER, 
                  UNITED STATES AFRICA COMMAND

    General Townsend. Can you hear me?
    Chairman Reed. Yes, sir.
    General Townsend. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
Members of the Committee, good morning, and thank you for the 
opportunity to appear today. It is a privilege to represent 
America's exceptional men and women at United States Africa 
Command, who are dedicated to securing United States interests 
and preserving our strategic options on the African continent. 
This morning I am accompanied by AFRICOM's senior enlisted 
leader, Marine Corps Sergeant Major Richard Thresher, and one 
of my key staff advisors, Air Force Colonel Jacqueline Breeden. 
I am also here this morning with my colleague and friend, 
General Frank McKenzie, the CENTCOM commander, to discuss 
shared challenges and opportunities in our areas of 
responsibility and the high return the American people give of 
their defense investments around the globe.
    Historically, America has not been penalized for 
underestimating the importance of Africa. Today, we can no 
longer afford to underestimate the economic opportunity and the 
strategic consequence that Africa embodies, and which 
competitors, like China and Russia, fully recognize. Africa is 
a crossroads of the globe. The recent blockage of the Suez 
Canal not only demonstrated the importance of critical sea 
lines of communication flowing through the Mediterranean and 
Red Seas, but also around the Cape of Good Hope. Violent 
extremist organizations, competitor activities, and fragile 
states are among some of the threats to U.S. interests.
    Beyond geography, global population growth is largely 
African. By 2050, 1 in 4 people on the planet will live in 
Africa. Rapidly-growing markets, 60 percent of the world's 
arable land, and vast untapped resources, including strategic 
rare earth minerals, provide tremendous economic potential. 
Thirteen of the world's 25 fastest-growing economies are in 
Africa. Africa's tremendous opportunities are offset by 
significant challenges, including climate change, food 
shortages, poverty, ungoverned spaces, historic grievances, and 
other factors, that make the continent also home to 14 of the 
world's 20 most fragile countries.
    Our strategic competitors are very active in Africa. China 
has invested heavily in their second continent, where some 
think tanks call it China's fifth island chain. Russia seeks to 
exploit instability and fragility for their own gain and at 
United States expense. Iran is increasingly active on the 
continent. At the same time, African-based violent extremists, 
like al Qaeda affiliates, Al-Shabab and ISIS, thrive in the 
government's--in the continent's ungoverned spaces. They 
provide the greatest threat to many of our African partners and 
aspire to kill Americans in Africa, as well as here at home.
    Across the diverse continent, United States AFRICOM 
operates with .3 percent of DOD's budget and .3 percent of 
DOD's manpower. This tiny investment pays enormous dividends as 
just under 6,000 servicemembers, civilians, and contractors 
work with our partners, both interagency and foreign, to 
counter malign actors and transnational threats, respond to 
crises, and strengthen security forces to advance U.S. 
interests and promote regional security, stability, and 
prosperity. AFRICOM works every day to protect America's 
security and advance our access and influence. We do this arm 
in arm with the U.S. Interagency and through coordinated action 
with our allies and partners. What AFRICOM accomplishes with a 
few people and a few dollars on a continent three-and-a-half 
the size of the continental United States is a bargain for the 
American taxpayer and a low-cost insurance policy for America's 
security.
    Mr. Chairman and Members of the Committee, thanks for your 
continued support to our armed forces, and I look forward to 
your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Townsend follows:]

           Prepared Statement by General Stephen J. Townsend
 introduction: strong return on our modest investment in this dynamic 
                                theater.
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, it is an honor to come before you again to represent the 
dedicated and professional service members and civilians of United 
States Africa Command (USAFRICOM). Since the last time I briefed you, 
USAFRICOM participated in a Command review and has developed a new 
campaign plan to ensure our alignment with the National Defense 
Strategy (NDS). USAFRICOM's Campaign Plan (ACP) aligns with our 
Nation's strategic objectives to protect our people and our Homeland, 
assure our allies and partners, and counter malign actors. Our national 
interests guide our campaign plan and our mission: United States Africa 
Command, with partners, counters malign actors and transnational 
threats, responds to crises, and strengthens security forces in order 
to advance United States interests and promote regional security, 
stability, and prosperity. I am confident the American people are 
getting a good value for our very modest investment of defense 
resources in Africa.
    The African Continent is important to the United States 
politically, economically, and militarily. It is home to the fastest 
growing economies and populations in the world, sits at crossroads of 
international commerce, trade and global force flow, and watches over 
important sea lines of communication. Our future security, prosperity, 
and ability to project power globally rest on free, open, and secure 
access in and around Africa. Activities of competitor states, violent 
extremist organizations, instability and fragility all challenge our 
access. Despite these challenges, this dynamic continent presents a 
number of opportunities for the United States to advance our interests.
    The COVID-19 pandemic illustrates the coupling of challenges and 
opportunities in Africa. Our forces remained in place and continued to 
operate within the limits of our force health protection measures. Our 
nation's values and long-term whole-of-government commitment to support 
and build partner capacity has been our strongest assets over the last 
year. To combat and contain the pandemic, African partners have 
mobilized medical capabilities built over decades of United States-led 
efforts to combat infectious diseases. USAFRICOM supported United 
States efforts to provide COVID-19 assistance in 43 countries, 
including the delivery of nearly $500 million in medical supplies. 
While force health protective measures required us to re-scope many of 
our activities, we have stayed connected with our African partners 
during their time of need.
   strategic environment: incredible potential checked by incredible 
                               obstacles
A Vast Continent of Opportunity and Challenge
    The land mass of Africa is larger than the United States, China, 
India, Japan, and most of Europe combined. Over half of the world's 
arable land is on the continent, along with much of the planet's 
untapped mineral resources, \1\ including strategic minerals. Africa is 
home to 11 of the world's 25 fastest growing economies, as measured by 
gross domestic product data for 2020. \2\ Africa's population is young, 
growing fast, and expected to top two billion in 2050, when more than a 
quarter of the world's inhabitants will live on the continent. By 2100, 
Africa's population could nearly double again. Not only is the 
continent's growth rate the highest in the world, but the population is 
the youngest, with 41 percent under the age of 15. \3\ The growing size 
of the population, illustrates the rising global importance of the 
African continent and the momentum of Africa's expanding markets.
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    \1\ Grow Africa: ``60 percent of Arable Land is in Africa and it 
has Billions in Investment Potential,'' 2020.
    \2\ International Monetary Fund, 2020 GDP growth (annual percent) 
https://www.imf.org/ (South Sudan, Egypt, Rwanda, Benin, Tanzania, 
Ethiopia, Cote d'Ivoire, Guinea, Kenya, Ghana, Malawi, and Niger), 2021
    \3\ United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs/
Population Division World Population Prospects, 2019
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    Africa's rapid population growth also amplifies several challenges. 
Over two-thirds of Africans live in poverty. \4\ Natural resource 
exploitation, impacts of climate change, and infectious disease 
outbreaks all fuel instability and conflict. Desertification, 
particularly in the Lake Chad Basin where the Sahara Desert is 
expanding into the Sahel, has dramatically reduced arable land, 
threatened food security, and created conditions for instability and 
insecurity. Lack of economic opportunities and a search for a better 
life lead to migration, which creates compounding challenges. An 
increase in migration across Africa, as well as into Europe and North 
America, feeds a lucrative market for extremist organizations and 
criminal networks. The Fund for Peace ``Fragile State Index'' captures 
the aggregation of these challenges. Fourteen of the world's top twenty 
most fragile states are in the USAFRICOM Area of Responsibility (AOR). 
\5\ Despite these challenges, Africa's potential and strategic location 
continue to attract investment and engagement by geo-strategic 
competitors.
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    \4\ 85 percent of Africans live off less than 5.50 USD per day, 
World Bank, 2019
    \5\ The Fund for Peace, ``Fragile State Index'' https://
fragilestateindex.org/data/ (Yemen, Somalia, South Sudan, Syria, 
Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic, Chad, Sudan, 
Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, Cameroon, Burundi, Haiti, Nigeria, Guinea, Mali, 
Iraq, Ethiopia, Myanmar, Libya). Three of the top 20 (Afghanistan, 
Syria, and Iraq) represent $1.5 trillion in ``war-related'' expenses 
from fiscal year 2001 to fiscal year 2019 according to the DOD 
Comptroller., 2021
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Strategic Geography
    Africa has global strategic importance relative to NATO's Southern 
Flank, the flow of commerce through the Red Sea, and protecting access 
to the Middle East, Indian Ocean, and South-East Asia. Located at the 
crossroads of the world, Africa watches over strategic choke points 
including the Strait of Gibraltar, the Strait of Sicily, the Red Sea, 
the Bab al Mandeb, and the Mozambique Channel. The sea line of 
communication (SLOC) running through the Mediterranean and Red Seas, 
and a second, dipping around the Cape of Good Hope, connect the East 
Coast of the United States to East Africa, the Middle East, India, and 
South East Asia. These pathways are essential to global trade, ongoing 
operations and contingency plans of seven other Combatant Commands. 
These corridors facilitate one-third of the shipping between North 
America and Asia, and one-third of global oil shipping. United States 
and global security depend on unhindered access to these waters.
Strategic Competition
    The NDS prioritizes geo-political competition due to the 
``magnitude of the threats [China and Russia] pose to United States 
security and prosperity, and the potential for those threats to 
increase in the future.'' \6\ Both Beijing and Moscow have long 
recognized the political, military, and economic importance of Africa 
and each continues to seize opportunities to expand their influence 
across the continent. Unencumbered by international norms and standards 
of transparency, our competitors are able to combine both government 
and private resources to gain influence. Exploitative practices for 
trade, resource extraction, weapons sales, and debt manipulation 
ultimately weakens governance, slows economic growth, and fosters 
instability.
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    \6\ 2018 National Defense Strategy: Sharpening the American 
Military Competitive Edge, 2018, p 7.
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    The People's Republic of China leads the international community in 
head of state and senior leadership visits to Africa over the last 
decade--investing heavily, pledging $60 billion in infrastructure and 
development, and increasing arms sales to African countries. Beijing's 
activities in Africa are outpacing those of the United States and our 
allies as they seek resources and markets to feed economic growth in 
China and leverage economic tools to increase their global reach and 
influence. The People's Republic of China has 52 embassies in Africa, 
three more than the United States, and they continue to expand their 
base in Djibouti into a platform to project power across the continent 
and its waters--completing a large naval pier this year. The base is 
only 12 kilometers from our 3,400 DOD personnel at Camp Lemonnier, the 
Department's primary forward operating location in the USAFRICOM AOR. 
Beijing seeks to open additional bases, tying their commercial seaport 
investments in East, West and Southern Africa closely with involvement 
by Chinese military forces in order to further their geo-strategic 
interests.
    Russian strategy in Africa has long centered on building influence 
to facilitate economic opportunity, obtain political support for 
Russian initiatives, and increase military presence on NATO's southern 
flank. Russian private military companies (PMCs) are a destabilizing 
influence in Africa, frequently securing Russian investments at the 
expense of African interests. Russian PMCs almost certainly downed an 
unarmed, unmanned United States aircraft in Libya in November 2019 
using a sophisticated Russian air defense system. This past year, 
USAFRICOM exposed the extent of the Kremlin's malign involvement, 
despite its continued denial, by identifying and publicizing their 
deployment of high performance fighter aircraft to Libya.
    Iranian military capabilities threaten sea-lanes through the Red 
Sea and our posture locations in the Horn of Africa. Iranian support to 
Yemen's Houthis further jeopardizes freedom of navigation in the Red 
Sea and increases tensions and instability in East Africa. Camp 
Lemonnier's geostrategic location makes it a critical posture location 
to support USCENTCOM plans and operations. To mitigate this risk to our 
people, this year USAFRICOM requested funding for improving force 
protection. I am thankful that Congress has authorized and appropriated 
these funds. With the inclusion of the Iranian threat, East Africa is a 
nexus of four of the five major threats identified in the National 
Defense Strategy: The People's Republic of China, Russia, Iran, and 
violent extremist organizations (VEOs).
VEOs are a Primary Threat to Many African Partners
    When I meet with African leaders, their primary concern is often 
VEOs killing their soldiers, kidnapping their civilians, and 
challenging their authority to rule. Transnational VEOs, like al Qaeda 
and ISIS, are expanding in Africa at a rapid pace, taking advantage of 
weak governance and disenfranchised populations. They threaten our 
partners' capacity to govern effectively, protect their populations, 
and improve their economies. Their terror attacks on the continent 
exacerbate the challenges of vulnerable populations, and some of them 
remain committed to strike at U.S. interests in both the region and the 
U.S. Homeland.
    East Africa is home to Al-Shabaab, the largest, wealthiest, and 
most violent Al Qaeda-associated group in the world. In 2019, Al-
Shabaab's leadership publicly identified Americans and United States 
interests worldwide as priority targets, mirroring Usama bin Laden's 
declaration of war on the United States in 1996. In January 2020, Al-
Shabaab followed through on this threat, attacking our forces at the 
Kenyan Naval Base at Manda Bay. This complex and well-resourced attack 
killed three Americans and clearly demonstrated Al-Shabaab's 
willingness and capability to attack the United States outside of 
Somalia. In February 2021, Al-Shabaab emir Ahmed Diriye repeated his 
call for violent attacks against Americans. Today, Al-Shabaab is the 
primary African VEO threat to American interests.
    The Islamic State is rapidly franchising across Africa, becoming 
increasingly more capable, violent, and difficult for our African 
partners to defeat without international support. In West Africa, the 
primary VEO threats are ISIS networks in the Sahel and Lake Chad Basin, 
Boko Haram, and al Qaeda's Jama'at Nusrat al-Islam wal-Muslimin (JNIM). 
Kidnapping for ransom, targeting Westerners, remains a common tactic 
for VEOs and criminal organizations. USAFRICOM's continued engagement 
in the Counter-VEO (C-VEO) fight in West Africa has developed the 
situational awareness and regional partnerships that sustain United 
States access and influence. These relationships enabled USAFRICOM to 
rescue Mr. Philipe Walton within days of his abduction in Niger last 
October. To conduct this rescue mission, USAFRICOM requested, and 
within hours received approval for, armed access, basing, and 
overflight from seven countries and permission to conduct a raid in 
Nigeria. Continued collaboration with, and support to, our French 
African partners as well as our European allies, is imperative to 
counter growing extremism with limited United States resources in the 
West. Bottom line: Our relationships and our counter-VEO efforts build 
U.S. influence over strategic competitors.
  strategic approach: an ounce of prevention and cheap insurance for 
                                america
    A secure, stable, and prosperous Africa--aligned with the United 
States--is an enduring American interest. The U.S. must continue to 
work with our allies and partners to advance our mutual interests 
within the rules-based international system. Our campaign plan is 
focused on achieving four campaign objectives, developed and refined 
over the last year: 1) Gain and Maintain Strategic Access and 
Influence, 2) Disrupt VEO Threats to U.S. Interests, 3) Respond to 
Crises to Protect U.S. Interests, 4) Coordinate Action with Allies and 
Partners to Achieve Shared Security Objectives.
    USAFRICOM resources offer cheap insurance and an ounce of 
prevention for America. Funds to support contracted ISR capabilities as 
well as personnel and recovery and casualty evacuation dramatically 
improve our ability to help our troops accomplish their missions and 
protect them with less impact on high demand military capabilities. 
Similarly, modest but sustained funding levels for exercises, 
professional education and Section 333and 332 activities are critical 
to our ability to build partner capacity to do more for themselves and 
to compete effectively with competitors.
Gain and Maintain Strategic Access and Influence
    Strategic access to exert influence and project power enables a 
broad range of U.S. Government activities. USAFRICOM competes and acts 
to maintain or expand U.S. influence and access. Our influence in 
Africa provides an advantage over competitors, deters conflict, assures 
partners of our commitment, and postures the United States to 
transition effectively to crisis or conflict if necessary. In 
cooperation with our allies, USAFRICOM builds trust and strengthens 
military relationships to allow for the rapid flow of forces and enable 
warplans when needed. As competition is increasingly global, Africa is 
rich with opportunities to counter, disrupt, tax, and win against 
strategic competitors.
    USAFRICOM prioritizes access in key geostrategic locations to 
disrupt competitor efforts that threaten United States freedom of 
action and to check malign activities which exploit our African 
partners. While we focus our military activities in key locations, we 
stay engaged across the continent to maintain situational awareness, 
support partners and allies, and respond to emerging crises.
Disrupt VEO Threats to U.S. Interests
    Persistent state fragility in Africa drives instability and violent 
extremism, but also invites competitor exploitation. VEOs remain a 
significant threat to the shared interests of the United States, our 
allies, and our African partners. Many of these VEOs explicitly aspire 
to kill Americans. USAFRICOM, working with African and European 
partners, monitors these VEOs for indicators and warnings of attacks 
against the Homeland, our embassies, and our citizens. Monitoring VEO 
capabilities and intentions can be resource intensive but is a vital 
first step in preventing successful terrorist attacks.
    Regional VEOs are the number one security concern for many of our 
partners. Access and influence stem from helping our partners with the 
problems they face. Shared efforts against VEOs provide the best 
opportunity to strengthen partnerships and to ensure the U.S. is the 
security partner of choice in priority countries. In Africa, counter 
VEO efforts are strategic competition.
    USAFRICOM contributes to multi-national efforts to disrupt VEOs 
while also conducting direct actions to degrade VEOs who threaten the 
Homeland. In the East, USAFRICOM capabilities support and enable the 
African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) and the multi-national effort 
to defeat Al Shabaab, an arm of al Qaeda, and build sustainable 
security in Somalia as outlined in the 2017 London Security Pact. In 
the West, USAFRICOM supports the French-led multi-national coalition, 
United Nations Multidimensional Integrated Stabilization Mission in 
Mali (MINUSMA), and the African-led G5 Sahel forces against Al Qaeda 
and ISIS affiliates. This sustainable, partner-centric approach 
protects the Homeland, builds relationships, creates access, and 
thwarts competitor advances.
Respond to Crises to Protect U.S. Interests
    The DOD often helps set the conditions necessary for subsequent 
whole-of-government efforts across Africa. The tremendous work of the 
Department of State (DOS), U.S. Agency for International Development 
(USAID), and other organizations has dramatically reduced the impact of 
diseases like HIV/AIDS, Ebola, and COVID-19, strengthened educational 
systems, supported democratic elections, and encouraged economic 
growth. Whole-of-American Government efforts are contingent upon the 
ability of USAFRICOM and the DOD to protect our embassies, our 
investments, and our people working in Africa to advance United States 
interests.
    The DOS has designated 30 diplomatic facilities worldwide as High 
Threat, High Risk posts, 15 of them are in Africa. USAFRICOM shares 
many of our crisis response forces with USEUCOM to maximize savings and 
readiness to the department. In the last year, the attack on Manda Bay 
in Kenya, diplomatic engagements in Libya, the coup in Mali, recovery 
of an American Citizen, the order to reposition from Somalia and 
ongoing violence in Ethiopia have all tested our response capabilities 
across the spectrum of operations and across tens of thousands of 
miles.
    As our service members operate in small groups in remote locations 
throughout the continent, USAFRICOM is continuously adjusting our 
limited collection, medical, transportation, and response assets to 
protect our troops. I would like to thank Congress for authorizing and 
appropriating funds to dramatically improve force protection, personnel 
recovery, and casualty evacuation efforts to provide our troops the 
medical care where and when they need it.
Coordinate Action with Allies and Partners to Achieve Shared Security 
        Objectives
    USAFRICOM maintains a well-developed constellation of allies, 
multi-national organizations (European Union, African Union, NATO, and 
the United Nations), and African partners. \7\ These relationships 
enable USAFRICOM to coordinate action, enhance interoperability, and 
share costs and risks to achieve mutual security goals.
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    \7\ USAFRICOM maintains Foreign Liaison Officers representing 19 
countries and multinational organizations.
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    USAFRICOM's active participation in multi-national efforts 
reinforces cooperation for mutual benefit, assures partners of U.S. 
commitment, and denies competitors opportunities to erode U.S. 
influence. Enhanced relationships and military activities enable 
USAFRICOM to help create time and space for our African partners to 
build the governance and economic growth necessary to gain the capacity 
to repel malign actors and VEO influences. Building partner capability 
is also an important tool in strategic competition, reinforcing the 
United States role as Africa's security partner of choice while 
furthering American values and influence. A great example of building 
relationships and trust is Exercise African Lion. Since 2002, African 
Lion has brought together partners and allies to enhance 
interoperability, build readiness and strengthen relationships. Trust 
is built over time--the relationships made while we develop partner 
capabilities provide America with long-term strategic alliances needed 
to address future challenges and ensure regional security and 
prosperity.
      regional assessments: a large, complex, and dynamic theater
East Africa
    The strategic geography of East Africa remains vital to United 
States National Security. Despite a determined Chinese effort to assert 
influence in Djibouti and the region, our relationship with the 
Djiboutian Government remains strong. The strength of the relationship 
built between the United States and Djibouti was evident in the opening 
months of the COVID-19 pandemic. As global travel became more 
difficult, senior Djiboutian leaders approved every one of our flight 
requests into and out of our three facilities that comprise the 
Djibouti Base Cluster. This vitally important base houses approximately 
half of the U.S. military personnel in the USAFRICOM AOR and enables 
the U.S. to protect the SLOC through the Red Sea and project power 
across East, Central, and Southern Africa as well as into the USCENTCOM 
and USINDOPACOM AORs. The base cluster supports global force flow, 
sustains forward staged response forces, supports strategic 
competition, and enables C-VEO activities in both USAFRICOM and 
USCENTCOM's AORs.
    The recent Operation Octave Quartz demonstrated the agility and 
flexibility of the Joint Force. In just over 60 days, USAFRICOM 
received the order to reposition from Somalia, planned the operation, 
assembled a Joint Task Force of 13,400 service members from around the 
globe, and executed this high-risk mission ahead of schedule and 
without major incident. Once again, our strong partnerships with 
Djibouti and Kenya played a vital role in our successful repositioning. 
Our mission in Somalia has not changed, but our posture has. 
Ultimately, achieving our shared objectives in Somalia is tied to 
reconciliation between the Federal Government in Mogadishu and the 
Federal Member States, building institutional capacity across various 
sectors, and enhancing support to the troop contributing countries of 
AMISOM.
    The collective efforts of the United States Government, 
international community, and regional partners, has created tangible 
progress in Somalia, albeit far slower, far smaller, and far more 
fragile than we would like. AMISOM and the Somali National Army (SNA) 
have made slow gains in Al-Shabaab strongholds in the south, holding 
territory and establishing outposts. However, pre-election political 
friction between the Federal Government of Somalia and Somali Federal 
Member States has distracted Mogadishu from our common fight against 
Al-Shabaab. United States-trained and supported ``Danab'' SNA units, a 
result of the USG's commitment at the 2017 London Security Pact, most 
often spearhead security operations but it is critical that AMISOM 
remain in the fight until the SNA is able to counter Al-Shabaab 
themselves. As this is written, USAFRICOM is working with the Joint 
Staff and OSD to review our mission, resources and authorities in East 
Africa as part of the Global Posture Review.
West Africa
    USAFRICOM employs a small footprint in West Africa as part of our 
African-led, allied-assisted, and United States-enabled framework to 
counter the expansion of VEOs in the Sahel and the Lake Chad Basin and 
to monitor increased strategic competitor activities. We coordinate our 
efforts with the larger multi-national security activities in West 
Africa (G5-Sahel and Multi-National Joint Task Force) and provide 
bilateral support to partner nations. However, progress is slow because 
in much of West Africa governance remains weak and populations 
disenfranchised. VEOs remain a significant threat and their violence 
continues to grow and spread.
    Extreme poverty, more frequent and intense weather events, 
vulnerable and marginalized populations, separatist movements, and 
illicit transnational networks overlap in the Sahel, creating 
opportunities for VEOs to establish safe haven, increasingly control 
the local populace and grow in strength. JNIM and ISIS associates have 
expanded in the region and now threaten the littoral states from the 
north--a development of increasing concern. ISIS-Core promotes ISIS-
West Africa as a flagship network, while Al Qaeda supports their global 
network using revenue generated in the Sahel, mostly through kidnapping 
for ransom. Faced with these growing VEO threats, African countries 
seek United States support, making C-VEO efforts one of our most 
effective tools to counter competitor influence.
    The People's Republic of China's ``Belt and Road Initiative'' is 
one competitor initiative that seeks to increase Chinese access and 
influence along the Atlantic Coast of Africa. Today, the People's 
Republic of China has invested heavily in large-scale industrial 
fishing infrastructure in the Gulf of Guinea (GoG), making the People's 
Republic of China the primary contributor to a growing food crisis that 
will further drive instability in West Africa. This exploitation--much 
of it illegal, unregulated, or under-reported illegal, unreported, and 
unregulated (IUU)--is not only counter-productive to our shared 
security objectives with West African countries, but also provides the 
economic pretense the People's Republic of China has previously used to 
justify increased military access. The way forward requires continued 
efforts with African partners and allies to build capacity to enforce 
their own maritime sovereignty. For example, Exercise Obangame Express 
is one way we seek to improve regional maritime domain awareness, 
capacity and cooperation. But, this annual event is insufficient by 
itself. A multinational maritime task force is a good option to address 
the plague of piracy in the Gulf of Guinea. Additionally, piratical 
attacks in Gulf of Guinea have become more frequent and violent, 
causing risk to international commerce and threatening maritime 
security.
    USAFRICOM will continue to work with Gulf of Guinea nations and 
other international partners to help strengthen regional cooperation 
and responses to piracy. Our European allies play critical roles in C-
VEO operations in West Africa. France, who leads C-VEO multilateral 
efforts in the Sahel, is committed to security in the region with 
approximately 5,500 troops conducting security force assistance and 
direct action with support from a number of European allies. We mourn 
the loss, in recent months, of five French Soldiers killed fighting to 
secure our mutual security interests in West Africa. Our mutual support 
and cooperation with the French has had the effect of multiplying the 
resources available to advance our shared interests. The European Union 
and United Nations maintain multi-national missions in West Africa and 
the continued effort of the United States Government help keep these 
international partners engaged in this fight and sustain France's 
leadership of this effort.
North Africa
    The Kingdom of Morocco, first to recognize our Nation in 1777, 
remains our strongest partner through exercises, training programs, 
foreign military sales, and counterterrorism cooperation. The Tunisians 
are also strong partners in the fight against ISIS-Libya and reinforce 
our security assistance with national funds. Our military relationship 
with Algeria significantly improved in the last year. Once looking 
almost exclusively to Russia, senior officials in the Algerian 
Government have recently expressed their desire to continue improving 
relations with the United States.
    In Libya, the election of a new Prime Minister and an Interim Unity 
Government mark continued progress. In the last 12 months, USAFRICOM 
supported our State Department in formally establishing a diplomatic 
link and we appreciate our excellent cooperation with AMB Norland and 
his team. Libya has provided Russia access and influence along NATO's 
southern flank. The Kremlin has publically denied direct involvement in 
the Libyan conflict, while thinly masking their governmental activities 
under the banner of the Wagner Group PMC. Continued progress on the 
political front is the best chance for long-term stability in Libya.
Central and Southern Africa
    The potential exists for stronger partnerships and opportunities in 
central and southern Africa. Botswana is a bright spot with its 
enduring democracy, continued stability, professional military, and 
good relations with the United States. South Africa, the second-largest 
economy and our largest trading partner on the continent, has been the 
hardest hit by the global pandemic. USAFRICOM provided COVID-19 aid 
with the help of the OSD, DOS, and USAID. In northern Mozambique, where 
United States and European energy partners have planned an 
approximately $50 billion investment in liquid natural gas, we have 
seen a rapid increase in sophistication and violence from local groups 
that have evolved into the newest African affiliate of corporate ISIS. 
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    Despite emerging opportunities, the People's Republic of China and 
Russia currently have the inside track in much of central and southern 
Africa. Russia is testing its playbook for malign activity in the 
Central African Republic, where they are employing PMCs, extracting 
minerals, and buying influence. Likewise, the People's Republic of 
China provided welcome COVID-19 aid diplomacy in South Africa. Without 
significant forces in Central and Southern Africa outside of our 
embassies, USAFRICOM maintains a limited supporting role to our United 
States diplomatic and development efforts in this region.
    conclusion: a secure and stable africa is an enduring american 
                               interest.
Economy of Force
    A small investment in Africa goes a long, long way. What USAFRICOM 
accomplishes with a few troops and a few dollars, on a continent 3.5 
times the size of the continental United States, is a bargain for the 
American taxpayer. Honest assessments and prudent investments ensure 
the U.S. maximizes the impact of every taxpayer dollar spent to secure 
American interests and support allies and partners. The locations where 
USAFRICOM resources and activities are concentrated represent the 
overlapping points where small teams of dedicated Americans can have 
outsized impacts on geo-strategic competition, protecting our personnel 
and Homeland, and reassuring our partners and allies. Providing our 
service members with the support we expect and they deserve, while 
operating across a vast continent with limited infrastructure, requires 
that power projection platforms, force protection, ISR, response 
forces, communications equipment, and medical care be forward deployed 
and ready to respond. Our partners and allies already bear much of this 
burden through reciprocal support and the relationships developed in 
exercises, intelligence sharing, coordination, and engagements. We 
could not complete our mission and advance our national interests in 
Africa without operating by, with, and through our allies and partners.
An Ounce of Prevention
    USAFRICOM remains ready to protect United States citizens, advance 
our interests and strategic access, and to respond to crises in Africa. 
The men and women of USAFRICOM, our partners on the continent, and our 
broad collection of stakeholders understand how important Africa is to 
the global economy and security environment. Strategic access to Africa 
and its surrounding waters will be even more vital to United States 
national security in the future than it has been in the past.
    Africa is key terrain for strategic competition with the People's 
Republic of China and Russia and our support to C-VEO operations is 
necessary to protect the Homeland as well as America's citizens and 
interests abroad. Today, we are reviewing our very modest resources to 
maximize our ability to protect and advance our national security 
interests. Persistent engagement by the United States military, in 
areas where our objectives are shared with our African and European 
partners, allows the United States to remain the security partner of 
choice across much of the continent. Furthermore, the United States has 
the opportunity to apply our asymmetric advantages in C-VEO experience, 
intelligence collection, and military professionalism in furthering 
international norms, good governance, economic development, and 
security cooperation against the challenges facing our African 
partners. Our investments to improve the security environment in Africa 
will pay ever-larger dividends in the future as African states are 
increasingly able to harness opportunities of the African continent.
    It remains my honor to lead the service members, civilians, and 
families of United States Africa Command. Our efforts have made the 
U.S. safer, secured United States interests, and preserved America's 
strategic options in the region, while helping Africans do more for 
themselves. I hope you are as convinced as I am that USAFRICOM is a 
good investment in the future--for America, for Africa, and for the 
world. Thank you.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Townsend, and 
let me remind my colleagues, because this is a hybrid hearing, 
of our procedures. Rather than using the early bird rule, we 
will recognize individuals by seniority. We will do the 
standard 5-minute rounds of questioning, and I ask my 
colleagues to keep track of the clock. Finally, for everyone to 
be heard effectively, I would ask all colleagues to please mute 
your microphones when not speaking. Thank you very much.
    General McKenzie, the intelligence community in the 2021 
Estimate indicated that al Qaeda and ISIS remain among the 
greatest threats to the United States overseas, and also 
continue to have the intent to project power into the United 
States. In addition, the Afghan Study Group, led by General 
Dunford and Senator Ayotte, concluded that United States 
withdrawal--a complete withdrawal, which is--I do not think you 
are contemplating--a complete withdrawal would allow al-Qaeda 
and other elements to restore themselves within 18 to 36 
months. Do you agree with these assessments, one, that al-Qaeda 
and ISIS are probably among the greatest threats, and, two, if 
unchecked they will revitalize themselves?
    General McKenzie. Chairman, I do agree that al Qaeda and 
ISIS remain--have aspirational goals of continuing to attack 
us, so I completely agree with the intelligence community's 
estimate.
    Chairman Reed. Director Burns of the Central Intelligence 
Agency (CIA) indicated in testimony that the very nature of the 
withdrawal will diminish, to a degree, our ability to collect 
intelligence. Do you concur with that assessment, too?
    General McKenzie. Sir, I do concur with that assessment. We 
will lose the abilities to see completely into Afghanistan.
    Chairman Reed. So the issue before us, very practically, is 
how do we compensate for those facts on the ground and here. 
Perhaps you might reserve some more comments to the classified 
section. How do you intend to compensate so that we can 
effectively disrupt al Qaeda and ISIS?
    General McKenzie. Chairman, I will have more pointed 
comments in our closed session, but briefly, I would tell you 
it will be difficult. It is not impossible to accomplish this 
task. A couple of things have changed since 2001 when were last 
attacked from Afghanistan. First of all, the United States 
itself is a far harder target than we were in September of 
2001. It is more difficult to operate in the United States. It 
is more difficult to gain access to the United States. So a 
variety of things have changed inside the United States, and we 
should always keep that in mind. Additionally, although we are 
going, in fact, to pull out of Afghanistan, and I am operating 
under the concept that for United States military presence, 
zero is going to be zero, and we can talk a little bit more 
about that in the closed session. We will have an architecture 
in the theater that will allow us to look into Afghanistan. It 
will not give us the same picture that we have got now. It will 
allow us to see in. The ranges will be greater, the resources 
will be greater, the risks will all be greater, but it will be 
possible to do those things. It is certainly not impossible, 
but we will not have the vision that we have now.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General McKenzie. 
General Townsend, again, thank you gentlemen for your 
leadership and your advice to the Committee. We have withdrawn, 
effectively, our forces from Somalia. Can you assess what is 
the operational effect? One of the factors that I think you 
both recognize is that the terrorist threat once was--seemed to 
be solely located in the mountains of Afghanistan, but now it 
is dispersed throughout the entire CENTCOM region. Syria has 
the capability of generating forces, and Somalia also, with Al-
Shabab, has that capability. So can you give us a sense of the 
effect of the withdrawal on your operations?
    General Townsend. Thank you, Chairman. So in the last 60 to 
90 days of the previous Administration, we were directed, as 
you stated, to reposition our forces out of Somalia. We left a 
small footprint behind in Mogadishu tied into the embassy there 
of less than 100. Since that time, we have been commuting to 
work. We work virtually with our partners from bases in the 
region, and then we fly in to conduct training and to advise 
and assist our partners. We have done four such operations in 
the last roughly 90 days. One of them is ongoing right now, and 
we are continually revising and improving the way that we do 
that to make it as effective as we can.
    There is no denying that repositioning forces out of 
Somalia has introduced new layers of complexity and risk, and, 
as General McKenzie said, our understanding of what is 
happening in Somalia is less now than it was when we were there 
on the ground physically located with our partners, so we are 
working to make this new mode of operation work. At the same 
time, we are participating in the Global Posture Review with 
the Department of Defense, and we will be presenting options to 
the Secretary of Defense on the way ahead. And, of course, I do 
not want to get ahead of my civilian leadership to address 
that, but we are working to make it work.
    I would say that probably, though, the biggest impact to 
security in Somalia right now is less Al-Shabab and more so the 
political dysfunction that exists between the federal 
government of Somalia and the federal member states, and, as 
you mentioned in your opening remarks, the extra-constitutional 
extension of the president's term in office. That is our 
biggest challenge, I think, right now.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. Ironically or coincidentally, 
what you are anticipating and actually experience at this 
moment is very much the same situation that General McKenzie 
might face, having withdrawn forces from the target country, 
for want of a better word. You have to operate on the 
periphery. You are doing that, and you face political/cultural 
issues, and General McKenzie will face political/cultural 
issues. So, again, we look forward to the classified session to 
get more into detail of these questions. Thank you. Senator 
Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. You hit it 
right on there. The term that is being used, ``over the 
horizon,'' which merely means that you are taking troops out of 
the area and conducting your activity from another country, and 
that is something that I disagreed with in the previous 
Administration. The last Administration pulled nearly all of 
the 200 troops that we had in Somalia out, and that was the 
previous Administration. I disagreed with that at that time, 
and I really think that we were right in disagreeing with that. 
History has shown that it does not work as well from an 
adjoining country as it does from the country where the 
activity is. So I would say--I would ask them the--General 
Townsend, I know you are going to be able to do this and will 
continue to do it, but does an over-the-horizon 
counterterrorism strategy in Somalia not make your job harder? 
General Townsend.
    General Townsend. Ranking Member, I would agree with the 
General McKenzie's characterization. It makes it more 
difficult. It does not make it impossible.
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah, well, I understand that, and I would 
say the same thing. I know that General McKenzie has already 
expressed, yeah, it makes it more difficult, but it does not 
make it impossible. You guys are soldiers and you have a duty 
to do it, and you will do it. Now, General McKenzie, are you 
concerned that we will not be able to secure and maintain the 
U.S. embassy? Tell me what--if all this happens as it is 
designed to happen in Afghanistan, what will be our situation 
with the embassy?
    General McKenzie. Sir, I believe it is our desire to retain 
an embassy presence in Afghanistan.
    Senator Inhofe. You got to protect it, right?
    General McKenzie. So we do, and of course.
    Senator Inhofe. You got to secure it.
    General McKenzie. Sir, we do. Of course, protection of an 
embassy is the responsibility of the host nation. Most of our 
embassies around the world have very little military presence 
there because the host nation lives up to their obligations. It 
is a matter of very much great concern to me, and I think 
everyone, whether or not the future Government of Afghanistan 
is going to be able to do that after we leave. That will be 
determined here over the next few weeks as we begin our 
drawdown and we evaluate the security platform that is there.
    Senator Inhofe. Will you be able to make that determination 
as the drawdown is occurring? My concern is, if we get to the 
point where we do not have that help, we would be depending on 
another country to do what we always do on our own, and that is 
defend and secure the embassies. That concerns you?
    General McKenzie. Ranking Member, it does concern me, but I 
would say if we have concerns about the physical security of 
the embassy, the United States will take whatever measures are 
necessary to ensure the safety of our diplomats. So we will do 
that based on the security situation as it exists on the ground 
in Kabul.
    Senator Inhofe. I would hope that you would anticipate that 
if there are going to be problems or signs of problems as the 
drawdown continues, that you would be on top of that, and I am 
sure you will be. In AFRICOM, General Townsend, the 
Administration is conducting a global force posture review. 
Now, that actually started in the previous Administration, and 
I can remember at that time cautioning the then Secretary of 
Defense that we do not have a lot of assets there, and we do 
not have a lot of protection there, and that is something that 
has concerned me before, and the same concern is out there 
right now. We have less than, what, 6,000, I guess, personnel? 
We face the shortfalls and ISR capability. These things are 
there. What would you say, General Townsend, is your biggest 
resource gap that would impact your ability to do your job?
    General Townsend. Thanks, Ranking Member. As you pointed 
out, we underwent the blank slate review, or a COCOM review, in 
the previous Administration, and by the time we got to the end 
of that, AFRICOM was still largely intact. I think we removed 
about 365 troops from the continent. As you pointed out, there 
is just no fat to cut there, and we did lose some funding in 
the various programs. Again, I do not want to get ahead of my 
civilian leaders on the Global Posture Review, so I will defer 
discussing options about forces and posture.
    But I would say that wherever we have forces in Africa, 
there are three things that we will need there. First would be 
the proper amount of personnel recovery and casualty evacuation 
of medical treatment to make sure our troops are properly 
protected. Second, as you mentioned, is ISR, and with the loss 
of the Overseas Contingency Operation (OCO) and the ISR 
Transfer Fund, that puts at risk one of our primary sources of 
ISR, which is contracted ISR in Africa. Then the third thing I 
would say would be funding for building partner capacity and 
exercises with our partners. We do everything in Africa through 
partners. There is no activity that America conducts 
unilaterally in the lead for, so building partner capacity is 
how we help the Africans and our international partners the 
most. So I would say those are the three things we will need 
regardless of what our future posture might be.
    Senator Inhofe. I agree wholeheartedly with that, and I am 
glad that you are coming out forcefully in making those 
statements. When you point out that we are in a continent, they 
are 3-and-a-half times the size of our country. I had not heard 
that before, and we have got to be aware of that. This is a 
problem. We need to have resources in there to do the job. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, and thank you, General McKenzie 
and General Townsend, for your service and for being here this 
morning. I especially appreciate whoever at DOD heard us when 
we said please give us a map that shows not just Russia and 
Chinese activity, but also shows United States activity, and it 
is pretty dramatic. It does not take much to take a look at 
those pictures and see China's influence all in red in Africa 
and our influence, and that picture says it all. So I very much 
appreciate that and have used the map that we got from United 
States Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) to make the argument that we 
need more investment in Latin America in the Foreign Relations 
Committee. Can I just ask for whoever is listening, if there 
are acronyms on the maps, that you give us a key to tell us 
what those acronyms mean for those of us who are not dealing 
with them on a daily basis? I would appreciate it.
    General McKenzie, I want to begin with you because in your 
testimony before this Committee last year, you indicated that 
there had been an increase in Iranian activity in Afghanistan, 
and that posed a potential risk to United States Forces. 
Obviously, the decision to withdraw American troops, which I 
have expressed concern about, has an impact not just on what 
happens with Afghan forces and the Afghan people, but it also 
creates a vacuum that allows regional actors, like Iran, and 
Pakistan, Russia, and China, to fill that vacuum. Can you talk 
about what you see happening after the U.S. withdraws and what 
the potential is for those regional actors to come in and 
influence what happens?
    General McKenzie. Certainly. After we complete our 
withdrawal, I think the country that is probably going to be 
most affected is Pakistan because of their long contiguous 
border with Afghanistan, the fact that the Taliban, largely 
centered in eastern Afghanistan, nonetheless maintains some 
presents in Pakistan as well. So I think Pakistan is interested 
in stability in Afghanistan, and I think it is going to be very 
difficult for that stability to remain after we leave, so I 
think Pakistan will be very concerned by that. I would say, 
frankly, that it is a situation they have not been terribly 
helpful on over the last 20 years, so that is unfortunate for 
them that some of this is now going to come back home in a way 
that they perhaps did not anticipate.
    As for Iran, you know, Iran does not wish us well, has 
always wanted to have the ability in Afghanistan to attack us 
or to have others attack us should they choose to do so. That 
capability remains, is as extant now as it was last year. Their 
interest in Afghanistan is the same as Pakistan's. They want 
stability in that region. I think everyone is concerned that, 
should we leave, should a civil war ensue, there is the 
possibility of a mass refugee movement that could affect all of 
the nations around Afghanistan. So I think they are very 
concerned by that because they do not see a clear way forward 
after we reduce our presence.
    Senator Shaheen. You mentioned ISIS camps in your opening 
remarks. One of the concerns, having visited Syria, that I 
have, given our withdrawal--precipitous withdrawal from Syria, 
has been the failure to address those camps from family and 
former ISIS members that continue to have thousands of people 
in them. Is there any international effort to address those 
camps and to try and resolve how the international community is 
going to deal with them before they become another threat?
    General McKenzie. I wish I could tell you a better news 
story there, Senator, but I cannot. It is one of my very 
highest concerns. Al-Hol camp, which you are very familiar 
with, is probably the poster child for 62,000 people, 
principally women, principally young children--and they are at 
an immediate risk from disease, cholera or coronavirus. But the 
long-term threat is ISIS radicalization which goes on in that 
camp, and unless we find a way to pull these children out of 
that camp, get them back to the nations that they came from, 
find a way to reintegrate them into civil society, and de-
radicalize them, we are giving ourselves a very significant 
military problem 10 years down the road.
    I know that our diplomats and our people in United States 
Agency for International Development (USAID) are working on 
this very hard. Nations need to step up, claim their people, 
repatriate those that they can bring home. Unfortunately, there 
is not a lot of progress on this front. It is one of my very 
highest concerns in the region.
    Senator Shaheen. We actually created a coordinator through 
the defense authorization bill--not last year, I think the year 
before--to try and address that. I am not aware that anybody 
has been appointed to that position yet, so hopefully the 
Administration will move on that. Before I am out of time, 
General Townsend, I wanted to ask you about what is happening 
in Ethiopia in the Tigray region, and to what extent the 
instability there has the potential to create instability in 
the surrounding countries, and how concerned you are about 
that.
    General Townsend. Ma'am, that probably takes longer than 
the 10 or 15 seconds I have to give the answer. Ethiopia is in 
the midst of several challenges, three or four significant 
challenges on multiple fronts. It definitely will affect 
security and stability in the region, and I can answer that 
more in another venue.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen, and now let me 
recognize via Webex, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
gentlemen, for being here today. General McKenzie, what is your 
understanding of the assistance that we will be providing to 
the Afghan security forces after we withdraw? Secretary Austin, 
he discussed some of this last week at the joint press 
conference at NATO. He spoke about training, securing their 
borders, and saying we will continue to support them in those 
efforts, also about funding capabilities, to continue paying 
salaries for the Afghan security forces. So what types of 
assistance are you seeing that we are still going to be 
providing and be responsible for?
    General McKenzie. Ma'am, let me just begin by saying we are 
going to go to zero solution in Afghanistan, so whatever we do, 
it will largely not be done by people on the ground in 
Afghanistan. We can still do some things from remote locations. 
We can work the administration of the Afghan security force 
funding, which is sort of the bedrock programmatic weapon or 
tool that we use to support the Afghan military and other 
things. We will not be able to do it as efficiently as we do 
now where we have people in the country that can really follow 
the money all the way to its destination, but we can still 
follow it into the country at least, and we will work tools to 
mentor from remote locations that will allow us to work with--
work with the Afghans themselves.
    Some of this will be contingent on how big the embassy is 
that remains, and that is still something that is going to be 
worked out over the next few weeks. So we could have a--we 
could have a security cooperation office in the embassy. We may 
not have a security cooperation office in the embassy. That 
will be ultimately a Department of State decision informed by 
our assessment of the security situation that is there. It will 
be far more difficult than the way we do business now. Again, 
it is certainly not impossible. We will not have the oversight 
that we have now just because we will not have the people on 
the ground to actually perform those functions.
    Senator Fischer. Now, as look at these force posture 
options over the horizon, I hope you will certainly keep this 
Committee informed about that as plans are finalized. So I 
would appreciate that from you.
    General McKenzie. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. For both of you, we talk a lot about ISR 
shortfalls, and I understand that demand always exceeds supply, 
but can you share with us what percentage of your ISR needs are 
being met? Also talk a little bit about the operational impact 
that this has.
    General McKenzie. Sure. I will begin. The majority of my 
operational ISR requirements are being met, not all of them. 
They are being--and I will give you a little bit more in the 
closed session. You know, we use a variety of manned and 
unmanned resources to look at our problems, and we are most 
particularly concerned with ISR in areas where we have U.S. and 
coalition forces in combat. Of course, that is in Afghanistan 
and in Iraq and Syria, and occasionally in Yemen. So there, we 
very--we work very hard to make sure we have got the ISR needed 
to do those things. We take risks sometimes in the ISR that we 
apply to the Iran problem, simply because I place a higher 
priority on ensuring that Americans--where we have Americans on 
the ground, we want to make sure we have got the resources 
there that we need to take a look at in order to protect them.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Townsend?
    General Townsend. Senator, the joint staff has a formula by 
which they validate our ISR requests. By that formula, we are 
resourced to about 30 percent, a little less than one-third of 
our requirement. If I take a hard look at that formula, I could 
probably get by with less than that. If I take that into 
account, our resourcing levels approach 40 or 80 percent. Every 
day in Africa, we have to make decisions about what we will do 
and what we will not do based on how much ISR we can apply to 
the day. We do not need a tremendous amount of gray tail or 
military ISR platforms. We need some of that to protect our 
troops, but we can do a lot of our work with contracted 
solutions, which are a good bargain for the taxpayer.
    Senator Fischer. But do you--I guess, do you both believe 
that having that presence of ISR used against hostile nations 
or their proxy forces, that that does act as a deterrent? 
General McKenzie, would you say that has happened with Iran?
    General McKenzie. I can say unequivocally that the maneuver 
of ISR assets in the summer of 2019 deflected imminent Iranian 
attack planning.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Townsend, do you have 
any instances of that?
    General Townsend. Yes, Senator. So we know that Al-Shabab 
looks over their shoulder every day at our--looking for our 
ISR, and so we know that they limit their activity because of 
the presence of our ISR.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator. Now let me 
recognize via Webex, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General 
McKenzie, I have several questions for you related to Israel. 
What is the status of Israel being moved to CENTCOM, and what 
do you see as the benefits for Israeli inclusion in CENTCOM? 
Also, Israel and United States European Command (EUCOM) 
coordinated very closely on ballistic missile defense, 
including Aegis support from the Mediterranean. How will you 
ensure continuity of ballistic missile defense with Israel, and 
will this continue through EUCOM or move to a different 
direction with CENTCOM?
    General McKenzie. Senator, we are in a planning phase right 
now to move Israel into United States Central Command. We are 
on about a 6-month planning timeline for that. There are--as 
you have noted, a number of things have to happen in order to 
make sure that that move goes seamlessly, and I will address 
those here in just a moment. But we work closely with European 
Command and the joint staff based on guidance we have gotten 
from the Secretary to make sure that that move is--that move is 
proceed--that move proceeds very smoothly and nothing falls 
through the cracks, particularly those things related to the 
defense of Israel.
    The principal benefit of Israel coming into the Central 
Command Area of Responsibility (AOR) is the fact that most of 
Israel's threats--all of Israel's threats really--emanate from 
the East, which is in the CENTCOM area of responsibility. 
Today, I talk a lot to the Israeli chief of defense. I talk a 
lot all throughout my command at all levels of the Israeli 
military about the threats that emanate against them because 
the threats to Israel have morphed from being, at one time, a 
purely ballistic missile threat, now to a Unmanned Aircraft 
System (UAS) and a land attack cruise missile threat. So now 
the threat is far more diffuse and actually dangerous, so we 
need to make sure that we are coordinating fully on all those 
matters.
    We work with European Command to make sure that we 
transition the defense of Israel to CENTCOM when we are ready 
to do it. That does involve questions of water space management 
in the eastern Mediterranean, questions of what ships are going 
to be available and when. I am in close contact with General 
Walters actually as we work through those problems, and we will 
present a plan to the Secretary a little bit later this year 
for an initial date when combatant command authority will shift 
for Israel.
    The last point I would just like to make is, the other 
benefit of bringing Israel into the Central Command AOR is it 
allows further normalization of relations between Israel and 
various Arab states in the CENTCOM area of responsibility, and 
this just recognizes that by placing them all under one 
combatant command. We were not able to do that in the past, 
particularly because of strains between Egypt and Israel. We 
are now well past that. Egypt and Israel function very well 
together at a variety of levels, including joint operations 
against threats in the Sinai.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. General Townsend, in the 
last decade, China has made significant investments in Africa, 
and it has been in the form of infrastructure and military 
installations, as well as significant investment from private 
firms. I am concerned with perceptions of the United States 
presence when we are conducting major air operations with 
significant collateral damage while China builds roads and 
bridges. What is AFRICOM's strategy for breaking this dynamic? 
Is this a problem that has a military solution?
    General Townsend. Senator, you are right. China has been 
aggressively investing in the continent with infrastructure, 
bases, arm sales, training, et cetera. We do not have to 
compete with China head-to-head, dollar-for-dollar. We can 
target where our investments are best made. I would not 
characterize it the way you did about our strikes with 
significant collateral damage. We do not do very many strikes 
in Africa. They are limited to Al-Shabab areas in Somalia, and 
we have very low collateral damage when we do those strikes. I 
agree with your point, though. There is not a military solution 
to any of these challenges on the African continent.
    Senator Gillibrand. Right.
    General Townsend. It is a whole-of-government approach that 
will be necessary to solve these challenges.
    Senator Gillibrand. I was encouraged by your commitment to 
working with African Union security forces and other nations' 
militaries, and I do appreciate the fact that we can fight 
terrorism, but we have to actually stop the social problems at 
the source. In your opinion, how can we increase cooperation 
with the African standby force and the African Union Peace and 
Security Council? Just to note, in your written statement, you 
listed extreme poverty, more frequent and intense weather 
events, and vulnerable and marginalized populations as issues 
that are contributing to instability in the region and, as a 
result, terrorism. These obviously sound like political 
problems and potentially a vacuum that China will be happy to 
fill with their own investments. So what are your thoughts on 
this issue, and how do we confront China and make the territory 
less fertile for Violent Extremist Organizations (VEOs)?
    General Townsend. Regarding the--confronting China here, I 
think we can do that in a targeted way in certain selected 
countries, and that way we can make our investments count for 
more. You mentioned several partners--African partners. We work 
with all of those partners to advance what we are doing. The 
United States does not lead any activity. We work through 
African partners first and international partners second, and 
then you mentioned several political problems. I think our 
administration strategy is the right one: lead with diplomacy, 
follow with development, secure with defense.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Let me know 
recognize via Webex, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you both for your service to our country. Let me begin with a 
question for General Townsend.
    General, the last time that I had an opportunity to visit 
Djibouti, I noted that at that time, we had a chance to observe 
the operations that the Chinese were doing with regard to the 
creation of a naval base, or at least a port there at Djibouti. 
Can you share with us the current status of the Chinese 
operations in Djibouti right now with regard to their port and 
what they are capable of doing with it?
    General Townsend. Thank you, Senator. The Chinese base in 
Djibouti is named Doraleh Port, or Doraleh Base. What they have 
done in the last 2 years is completed a very large and capable 
naval pier that has joined their base. This pier has the 
capability to dock their largest ships to include the Chinese 
aircraft carrier as well as nuclear submarines. Now, they are 
finishing that pier now. They are applying the final coats of 
paint to this thing. I expect that we will see increased 
Chinese naval presence there. Their presence at Doraleh Base in 
the past has been largely to secure and sustain their small 
naval task force that operates in the Red Sea and the Gulf of 
Aden. I anticipate now with this pier being recently completed, 
they will increase their naval activity into Djibouti soon.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General. General McKenzie, I 
would like to visit with you with regard to the difference 
between a conditions-based withdrawal and a withdrawal with a 
date certain, and I recognize that your role here is to follow 
the directions of the Commander-in-Chief. I respect that, and I 
know that the President has made the decision to move from a 
conditions-based withdrawal to a date-certain withdrawal. There 
is a reason why I think many of us had talked about, and I 
believe a number of the military officials in the past have 
discussed the validity of a conditions-based withdrawal, while 
at the same time recognizing that there is no real good answer 
to the Afghanistan questions.
    Respecting the President's ability to make and having to 
make this decision, can you share with us a little bit about 
some of the concerns that you have expressed with regard to the 
ability of the existing Afghan national forces to be able to 
respond to aggression by the Taliban, and what the impacts 
could be in those areas that are not currently under Taliban 
control with regard to the stability in those villages, those 
communities, and the impact that could occur for women and 
children in those regions?
    General McKenzie. Senator, thank you. First of all, the 
decision-making process was very inclusive. I had multiple 
opportunities to make my views known, and I appreciate the 
opportunity to have had those views known. I cannot share those 
views with you in this forum, but I would just tell you that 
the inclusion and the deliberate and methodical way that this 
decision was approached was heartening for me, at least. I 
would tell you that my concern about leaving with a date 
certain is that after we withdraw, and we have talked about we 
are going to go to zero means zero, that there will be no real 
United States enablers in Afghanistan. My concern is the 
ability of the Afghan military to hold the ground that they are 
on now without the support that they have been used to for many 
years, which we have weaned them off direct support--U.S. and 
coalition soldiers being present with them on the ground to a 
point where now it is intelligence, it is fire support. It is 
the enabling things that actually give them an edge over the 
Taliban. Now all that will be gone, so I am concerned about the 
ability of the Afghan military to hold on after we leave, the 
ability of the Afghan air force to fly, in particular, after we 
remove the support for those aircraft. All of those things are 
factors that will be worked out here in the next few months, 
and we will get an opportunity to see how the Afghans do.
    Your last point on conditions for women and children, and 
women, in particular, and the strides--the great strides that 
have been made in education and human rights in Afghanistan, 
the levers that we have now will be reduced, but I believe 
there will still be levers that we can apply, and those levers 
will be principally diplomatic and economic because if the 
Taliban or whatever future hybrid government exists in 
Afghanistan wants to gain global recognition and receive some 
form of international support, they are going to have to take 
some actions that would tend to protect those groups. Again, 
those are things we just cannot know right now.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General. I most certainly 
appreciate your responsible comments, and I understand that you 
did have the ability to give input. I just simply think that it 
is important for the American people to understand that the 
repercussions of this are not going to be pretty, and that we 
will see reports of atrocities in those areas as committed by 
the Taliban if these Afghan national forces are not able to 
hold their own without those United States supports that they 
have become very dependent on. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator. Now, let me 
recognize Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for your service and to the men and women under your command. I 
do not need to tell either of you that the definition of 
success in Afghanistan has changed over the 20 years that we 
have been fighting wars in that part of the world. In October 
2001, President Bush set the terms for victory in Afghanistan 
as bringing al Qaeda to justice and ensuring that they could no 
longer use Afghanistan as a base to launch terrorist attacks on 
the United States. Coming right to the point, General Townsend, 
public press reporting states that after a withdrawal from 
Afghanistan, it would be a 4-hour flight for an MQ-9 to be on 
station in Afghanistan to do a counterterrorism mission. My 
question is, how does that compare to the flight to be on 
station in Somalia, or Libya, or other places under your 
command where countering terrorism is a similar mission?
    General Townsend. Senator, we also have some pretty long 
legs to get our ISR on station, although I do not believe 4 
hours. Our transit times are more in the realm of 1 to 2 hours 
one way. We spend 4 hours probably, on average, back and forth, 
but not as long as you just described.
    Senator Blumenthal. General McKenzie, would that length of 
time enable effective counterterrorism in Afghanistan using the 
kind of air resources that we have in General Townsend's 
command?
    General McKenzie. Senator, right now in Afghanistan, we 
principally use MQ-9s and MQ-1s, and the newspaper story may 
have said 4 hours. If we get out of Afghanistan, most likely 
the transit time will be considerably longer than 4 hours to 
get in, and I can talk about this in a closed session in a 
little bit more detail. So I can, in fact, give the persistent 
overhead coverage that is required. It will simply require far 
more platforms operating at greater range in order to 
accomplish that same mission that you can do with fewer 
platforms because, as you know, the airplane has so long to 
fly. You are either going to use that flight time either 
getting to the objective or what you do on the objective. We 
want to maximize what you can do on the objective. It will be 
difficult.
    Senator Blumenthal. I would like to hear, and probably it 
should be in a closed setting with the chairman's and senator's 
support, what specifically by way of counterterrorism can be 
done, what the plans are to do it, because I think that is an 
essential feature of our withdrawal. You said ``if,'' but it is 
right now planned for September 11th, and I would like to know 
what our preparations are.
    General McKenzie. Sure, I will be happy to discuss that in 
closed session.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. I think Senator Inhofe 
alluded to this topic, but, as you know, there have been 
various reports about attacks on American personnel, diplomats, 
members of the intelligence community, perhaps even military, 
some of it referred to as the Havana Syndrome, referring only 
to those public reports. If there is any truth to those reports 
about attacks on American personnel, don't you think the 
American people deserve to know about it?
    General McKenzie. Sir, I do, and I track that very--and I 
can only speak, of course, to the U.S. Central Command area of 
responsibility, and I can give you a little bit more 
information in a closed session, but I have found no evidence 
of those attacks in U.S. Central Command. But I can talk a 
little bit more about it, and I would like to do so in a closed 
session.
    Senator Blumenthal. I would like to hear about it in closed 
session, but I would also like for the American people to know 
about it because I think they need and deserve to know about 
it. General Townsend, do you have any comment?
    General Townsend. Senator, we have not seen that phenomenon 
in AFRICOM in any significant number; in fact, any number that 
I am aware of.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. General McKenzie, what have 
you seen by way of the Iranian support for proxies and their 
attacks on United States personnel under your command, the 
malign influence of Iran and their support for those kinds of 
attacks on our personnel or our allies and partners?
    General McKenzie. So I think, first of all, Iran is not 
seeking state-on-state conflict with the United States right 
now. I think they would like to see how the Biden 
Administration's approach on Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action 
(JCPOA) works out for them. At the same time, and this just 
reflects the contradiction inherent in the way the Iranians 
think about many of these problems, they want us out of places 
like Iraq, and they are prepared to take kinetic activity, 
which they believe they can disavow by their actors, their 
proxies, acting on the ground to conduct low-level attacks 
against us. Over last year, in 2020, the Iranians believed they 
had a political solution to eject us from Iraq. That no longer 
appears to be a viable way ahead for them, so we are seeing a 
return to a more kinetic approach, and that has been manifested 
here over the last few weeks as low-level attacks have begun to 
crop up in Iraq, attacks that the Iranians would disavow 
themselves from. We carefully look for attribution in these 
attacks, and national leadership will eventually make a 
decision on how to respond.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thank you both. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Now let me 
recognize Senator Ernst, please.
    Senate Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and, gentlemen, thank 
you very much for your testimony today. I do want to take time 
to thank you, your senior enlisted members, and all of the men 
and women within your commands for their continued service to 
our Nation. I will move into my questions, but what we are 
doing today, we are obviously discussing the significant 
challenges that both of you have within your commands. Our 
national defense strategy is still targeted towards five very 
real threats--China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and then, of 
course, violent extremist groups--and four of those five 
challenges operate in both of your AORs, and, of course, the 
way that we operate and resource your AORs is very different. 
But, General Townsend, I would like to start with you.
    Within AFRICOM, we do have various pockets of activity, and 
we do engage our special operations forces in those areas. The 
Lake Chad Basin is a very volatile region, and there are a 
number of those violent extremist organizations there, such as 
ISIS, Boko Haram. They are operating within the region, and 
they are exploiting, of course, the economy, the terrain, and 
the vulnerable population there. What is the assessment of the 
risk these various organizations pose to the U.S., and have we 
allocated the proper resources necessary to defeat their 
threats?
    General Townsend. Thanks, Senator. You specifically 
addressed the Lake Chad Basin, and there we see operations by 
Boko Haram and ISIS West Africa. A couple of years ago, those 
two organizations had joined in league with one another. They 
have split in the last year or two, again, apart. My assessment 
is that neither--although they caused tremendous problems there 
for the countries that all adjoin in the Lake Chad Basin, which 
is Niger, Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon--all come together right 
there--they caused tremendous problems for them. It is my 
assessment that neither Boko Haram nor ISIS-West Africa today 
pose a significant threat to United States interests. That is 
not true of other violent extremist organizations in Africa.
    Senate Ernst. Mm-hmm. Thank you very much, General. How can 
we help those countries in that area, be it military or other 
resources available, through our Federal Government? There are 
a few of those countries that do have significant resources 
that could be exploited by China or Russia. What ways can we 
further support that region, not just military, but other types 
of supports?
    General Townsend. Well, just exactly what you said along 
the lines of not just military. So there--a whole-of-government 
approach in that region would help. We have that now to some 
degree. I think we can make that more robust. There is a 
partnership between our Department of State and Department of 
Defense to provide security assistance to those countries 
there. We do that on a bilateral basis directly with those 
countries. There is a Multinational Joint Task Force that 
operates in the Lake Chad Basin region. It would not be hard to 
increase some of our efforts there. I think what we see, 
particularly with Nigeria, is they are struggling with that 
particular threat in the Lake Chad Basin and northeast part of 
their country.
    Senate Ernst. All right. Thank you, General. General 
McKenzie, it was my great honor just several days ago to spend 
some time in the company of some truly extraordinary women, and 
these women are Gold Star Wives, and many of them came from our 
Special Operations Forces. We had an Air Guard member as well 
as an Army Guard member, and part of the conversation obviously 
flowed towards the close down of Afghanistan, the withdrawal of 
troops, and, of course, what we would hope to see as the end to 
the Global War on Terror. I have concerns about it. I have 
concerns that we are conceding territory at a great loss of 
lives, and so if you could indulge me, sir, and address these 
extraordinary women and their families all across the United 
States, and just let them know your thoughts and how we can 
recognize the ultimate sacrifice that their husbands made, and 
to please let them know that those sacrifices were not in vain.
    General McKenzie. Senator, thank you, and certainly the 
sacrifices have not been in vain, and particularly the family 
members of those people who have gone forward to defend this 
Nation and have died in so doing, are going to carry those 
memories with them for the rest of their lives, and there is 
nothing I can do to really make that better. But what I can 
tell them is I believe we went to Afghanistan in a good cause, 
and I believe we have, in fact, prevented attacks on the United 
States from being generated from Afghanistan for over the last 
20 years, and that was ultimately our base mission for being 
there.
    The long-term view for the War on Terror is this: it is not 
going to be bloodless. The War on Terror is probably not going 
to end. What we actually seek is the creation of local security 
where the threats, as they arise, can be dealt with 
indigenously by those countries themselves without a 
significant U.S. presence there. We will see a test of that 
hypothesis in Afghanistan and in the months ahead. We also 
tested it in Iraq where it is moving towards success. We also 
tested in Syria and in other places. Nothing will ever 
compensate for the loss of a loved one, and I would not attempt 
with any words I can say here to try to do that.
    Senate Ernst. God bless you. Thank you so much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Ranking Member 
Inhofe, and thank you, Senator Ernst, for asking that question 
to the witnesses who are before us today. We appreciate your 
service. Just a comment. I think we have had a good discussion 
about the big issue that is, you know, dominating our attention 
right now--Afghanistan--and every concern that anyone I know 
that has expressed about it is a very legitimate one. There are 
a lot of concerns. I do support the President's decision, but 
believe it was a decision made with no particularly wonderful 
options out there on the table. I honor the 20 years of 
service, 10 years to find and kill Bin Laden, and then 10 years 
to train hundreds of thousands of Afghan security forces. 
General McKenzie, as you mentioned, there will be a test of 
that security apparatus to determine its efficiency to counter 
the threat that the Taliban poses, and we will all be paying 
attention in a significant way.
    One thing I would like to just caution against is 
sometimes, particularly in a military hearing, we will talk 
about the state beginning on September 11th as a zero solution, 
and it is true that the President's announced intention is a 
zero solution with respect to military presence in Afghanistan, 
except for that necessary to protect our embassy and, if 
needed, for counterterrorism operations as they arise. But I 
think it is important for the American public to know that it 
is not a zero solution if you look at it from the whole-of-
government standpoint, because I think it is very likely that 
the United States is going to continue to provide significant 
security assistance to Afghanistan. It is highly likely that we 
are going to provide significant assistance in the 
humanitarian, economic, trade, development, and diplomacy 
space.
    So it is not a zero solution in terms of America's 
partnership with Afghanistan. I would imagine that when we get 
to a new status quo in terms of the relationship, the support 
that we provide for our partner, Afghanistan, will be 
significant and may be significantly greater than sort of the 
support we provide to other nations. That remains to be seen, 
and obviously the effect of that support is being tested, as 
General McKenzie mentioned.
    General McKenzie, you mentioned something about Afghans' 
neighbors, and I wanted to just dig into that a little bit. You 
indicated that while they have not all been helpful to the 
United States, not by a long shot, and they have not 
necessarily even done what we would hope they might do to 
assist in Afghanistan, they do help with stability in 
Afghanistan. They do not see instability there as furthering 
their interests, and just quickly, I was looking at who 
Afghanistan--the Afghan neighbors are. Afghanistan is bordered 
by six countries: Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, 
Tajikistan, China, and Iran. Very different nations, those six, 
but can I just dig in a little bit with you, General McKenzie, 
on that? As different as these nations are from each other, and 
as different as they are in their relationships with the United 
States, would you say that they all, for their own reasons, 
would desire stability in Afghanistan and would feel threatened 
by instability in Afghanistan?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I would agree with you 
completely. I think all, for their own reasons, and, as you 
noted, those reasons are very different, they all want 
stability in Afghanistan. The other thing some of them want, 
too, is they recognize the vast natural resources that are 
inherent in Afghanistan, and they seek access to that.
    Senator Kaine. In terms of wanting stability, I would 
imagine that they want stability, again, for their own reasons, 
but some of the common reasons would be instability could lead 
to unacceptable refugee flows into neighboring nations if that 
is not managed, and instability could also lead to the 
possibility of terrorist or other attacks in their own nations 
if that is not managed correctly. Are those two of the reasons 
that they want stability, and are there others why they would 
want stability?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I think those are the two 
principal reasons, the movement of refugees across national 
borders, and also the threat of exportation of ISIS or al 
Qaeda's ideology, you know, from inside Afghanistan. I think 
those are the two principal reasons.
    Senator Kaine. In terms of those threats, the threat of 
refugee flows and the threat of terrorist attacks, in many 
ways, they have more of an existential connection to stability 
in Afghanistan than the United States does, just because of 
their proximity to Afghanistan. Is that not correct?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I would agree.
    Senator Kaine. All right. Thank you. Mr. Chair, I do not 
have other questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Let me now 
recognize via Webex, Senator Tillis.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 
holding the hearing, and, gentlemen, thank you for being here 
and for your years of service. General Townsend, I want to talk 
a little bit about China. In your opening comments, you talked 
about China's move, I think, in Djibouti as a power projection 
platform. We know that there is even talk about an Atlantic 
Coast naval base. How does this play out over the next several 
years if they continue at their current pace, and what are the 
real threats to our own national security as a result?
    General Townsend. Thanks, Senator Tillis. So we know that 
the Chinese desire a network of bases around the globe. How 
that plays out in Africa is, first, with their base at Doraleh 
in Djibouti. They have been working on a number of options to 
get a base elsewhere in Africa, Tanzania--primarily on the east 
coast--the Indian Ocean, and then they have placed a number of 
bets down along the Atlantic coast. My concern is the greatest 
along the Atlantic coast of Africa. This is probably--this is 
the most significant threat, I think, from China would be to 
gain a militarily useful naval facility on the Atlantic coast 
of Africa, and by ``militarily useful,'' I mean something more 
than a place that they can make port calls and get gas and 
groceries. I am talking about a port where they can rearm with 
munitions and repair naval vessels. They are working 
aggressively to get that, but we have not seen any of that come 
to fruition yet, and it is my number one global power 
competition concern.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, General Townsend. General 
McKenzie, with the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan, we have 
received, you know, various estimates of how that is going to 
play out over the next year or so. I, for one, think that we 
are going to run into--that Afghanistan is going to run into 
serious problems after we completely withdraw our troops, but I 
am primarily concerned with force protection as we withdraw 
from the forward-operating bases and, ultimately, Kabul. What 
are we doing? Are we just going exploit the resources we have 
on the ground for force protection? Are we going to surge a bit 
as we withdraw? Can you give me some sense and some confidence 
that we are going to be able to do this with the full 
expectation that the Taliban may take some shots at us on our 
way out the door?
    General McKenzie. Senator, first of all, we are prepared if 
the Taliban want to take shots at us, today, or after 1 May, or 
at any point during the withdrawal. The plan that we have 
designed and that General Miller will begin execution of is 
designed to come out with or without pressure from the Taliban, 
and, yes, we will bring additional resources in in order to 
protect the force as it comes out. That is normal in any kind 
of disengagement operation. I do not want to go into the 
details of those operations right now, but we will bring--we 
will have additional capabilities, and I am confident that we 
will be able and our coalition partners will be able, to 
extract ourselves. We look every day, every hour at force 
protection in Afghanistan. It has the complete, undivided 
attention of General Miller and myself.
    Senator Tillis. Well, I hope that any malign activities on 
the part of the Taliban are met, and that you have the 
authority to exact a cost for any of those. Hopefully there 
will not be any, but I am afraid that we will probably see 
some. General McKenzie, I also wanted to talk about the Abraham 
Accords. Do you think the other countries that have come to the 
Accords already, that it has been a positive thing, and what 
other additional cooperation or participants in the Accords do 
you think would be helpful as a check against Iran?
    General McKenzie. Sir, I think the normalization of 
relationships between Israel and her Arab neighbors is a 
profound step forward. It represents really a new era in the 
Middle East, and I think that is one of the things that Israel 
coming into United States Central Command as part of a unified 
command plan shift will also help. So I think, you know, we 
have got to be patient. It will take time for this to happen, 
but I would look over time for further nations to join in 
normalization of relations with Israel, and I think that is a 
net positive thing for the region.
    Senator Tillis. The last question is, with the missile 
attack or rocket attack out of Syria against Israel just this 
week, is that potentially a part of a trend, or do you think 
that maybe it was just a one-off activity?
    General McKenzie. I think it reflects actually incompetence 
in Syrian air defense where they were responding to Israeli 
strikes on targets in Syria. They fired their missiles. The 
missiles went ballistic, literally, and followed the parabolic 
trajectory into Israel where they were intercepted. I do not 
believe it was an intentional attack, but just rather lack of 
capability on the part of the Syrian air defenders.
    Senator Tillis. Okay. Thank you both. Thank you both, 
gentlemen. Thank you for your service and your leadership. 
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Now let me 
recognize Senator King via Webex.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There has been a lot 
of discussion today about the September 11th date and the 
calendar-based withdrawal. I think it is important to recall 
that the prior Administration initiated a calendar-based 
leaving--withdrawal from Afghanistan, and, in fact, that 
calendar date is 1 week from tomorrow. So the current 
Administration was, in a sense, boxed in by those negotiations 
with the Taliban that took place last year, and which, by the 
way, excluded the Afghan Government. General McKenzie, you used 
a term earlier in your testimony, ``if a civil war ensues.'' Is 
there not a civil war going on right at this very moment? There 
is no doubt that a civil war is going on now and will continue. 
Is there?
    General McKenzie. Sorry. I am probably not the best person 
to give you an answer to this. I would defer to the diplomats. 
But we have a constituted-elected government in place in 
Afghanistan, and so that we have a legal authority in place. So 
I am not sure that I would refer to what is going on right now 
as a civil war. Others might take a different view of that, but 
I am not certain that I would refer to it in that way.
    Senator King. It would not--you do not think the Taliban is 
a viable insurgency that is fighting against the government and 
the government's reach into the provinces?
    General McKenzie. I think the Taliban certainly are 
militarily very capable. I do not know how much of the actual 
Afghan population they represent. Polling data would tell you 
it is a very low percent if you subjected it to an honest 
election, which I know would be very difficult to accomplish in 
Afghanistan. But I would not confuse an insurgency, however 
capable and lethal, with a civil war.
    Senator King. Well, I will turn the question around. We 
have been there 20 years. We have spent over $1 trillion, lost 
lives, tens of thousands of injuries, incredible support to the 
Afghan Government. Why has the Afghan Government not been able 
to take hold? My understanding is, General, that the Taliban 
controls more land today than they did last year, and more last 
year than they did the year before. They are, in fact, winning. 
Why can the Afghan Government not defend itself successfully?
    General McKenzie. Sir, our principal objective in 
Afghanistan has been, and will remain, to prevent al Qaeda and 
ISIS from developing attacks against our Homeland and those are 
of our allies.
    Senator King. No, I understand that, General. That is not 
my question. My question is, in your military judgment, why has 
the Afghan Government not, with all the support that it has had 
from us, been more successful in beating back the Taliban, 
when, in fact, over the last dozen years or so, the Taliban has 
been making steady gains?
    General McKenzie. I believe that right now, a rough stasis 
exists between the Taliban and the Government of Afghanistan 
forces. The Taliban has access to offshore havens where they 
are able to reconstitute where the Government of Afghanistan 
cannot reach, and it is always very difficult in a 
counterinsurgency to fight when your opponent has the ability 
to do those things.
    Senator King. Well, I understand that, but it just seems 
like with all the advantages of the Afghan Government, I am 
just puzzled as to why they have not--and you testified that 
you thought they had the support of the majority of the 
people--why they have not been able to be more successful. 
General Townsend, we have talked a lot about the Chinese 
activity in Africa. You talked about the purpose appears to be 
both economic and military. My question is, do you discern any 
backlash in these African countries where the Chinese have made 
these big loans and big investments and now the bills are 
coming due? Are the Africans having any second thoughts about 
their engagement with the Chinese?
    General Townsend. Thank you, Senator. Actually, we do see 
some backlash. You know, you have heard of the famous debt trap 
diplomacy that the Chinese have used. That has actually worked 
against their efforts in a lot of African countries. Our 
embassies have a very successful program where we now will 
review any contracts. We have a standing offer to review any 
contracts that these countries are going to undertake with 
China to point out the inconsistencies, the potential pitfalls, 
and the differences often we find between the host nation 
language translation and the Chinese translation. I think this 
is a great effort by our Department of State to help these 
countries make informed decisions on their own.
    We see backlash, and we see it in the military sphere. 
Their equipment frequently breaks within a year or two. It is 
sitting rusting at the--on the side of the airfield or the 
port, and their training has been described to me by one 
African leader as not much more useful than a Hollywood 
demonstration. So we are starting to see some pushback by 
African leaders on the Chinese.
    Senator King. Well, I think one way to look at it, and I 
have talked to leaders throughout Asia, is that we have allies; 
China has customers. I think to the extent we can maintain 
those relationships with those African countries in the long 
run, I think they are going to prefer our model and our air 
support. Thank you very much, gentlemen, for your service. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Scott, 
please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. Thank both of you for 
your service and all the men and women under your command. Just 
to follow up with General Townsend with what Senator King was 
saying. What are you hearing from these leaders in these 
African countries about how they are going to deal with the 
debt that the Chinese have done or their relationship? Is there 
much opposition to what China is doing right now?
    General Townsend. I had an African leader tell me a 
drowning man will reach for any hand, and so I think they are 
faced with very difficult choices, many of these countries. 
They have got extreme poverty. They have climate challenges, 
food shortages. They want to advance their country for their 
people. Many of them have challenges with violent extremist 
organizations, and they need to secure their country, so they 
will reach out to any offer. Frequently those offers are 
fastest from China and Russia. We are slower to deliver, in 
their estimation, and it is true, and we are more deliberate in 
that way, and we have more strings attached than the Chinese 
and the Russians. You know, our strings are related to good 
behavior and things like that, democratic values, and the 
Chinese and the Russians attach no such strings other than 
loans--loan shark type of lending.
    So they reach for whatever assistance they can get. They 
constantly tell us we would prefer you to be our partner, and 
many of them do that when they have the ability to do that. But 
they also will take help from any source, and they will take 
help from us and help from the Chinese and the Russians all at 
the same time, and they will reassure us they can manage those 
relationships, and we try to help them with that.
    Senator Scott. So take the Chinese. Are they going to be 
able to enforce the deals they have entered into in these 
countries?
    General Townsend. That is a great question, Senator, and I 
do not know the answer to that. Probably best for the 
Department of State.
    Senator Scott. Okay. General Townsend, you know, Israel--it 
seems like Israel's reputation and presence in Africa is 
growing, and with the Abraham Accord, you would think it would 
be a positive. So are you seeing Israel's involvement in Africa 
growing at all?
    General Townsend. We do see Israel. Israel has always been 
involved in parts of Africa, mostly the northeast and along the 
Red Sea. We are seeing Israel reach out across Africa in a 
fairly positive way in most cases, and they are doing some arms 
sales there. Quite frankly, I would rather see our African 
partners buy Israeli drones than Chinese drones.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. General McKenzie, how concerned 
are you about the relationship that Iran is building with 
China?
    General McKenzie. I am very concerned about it. It is too 
soon to tell, though, if this latest agreement is going to 
mount into something or nothing at all. I think Iran is always 
seeking opportunities to buy weapons, you know, and so I think 
it is interesting, but I am not yet prepared to pass a judgment 
on it.
    Senator Scott. Are you seeing China's involvement grow--
continuing to grow militarily all across the area you are 
responsible for?
    General McKenzie. In Central Command, China's involvement 
engagement is principally economic with the debt trap diplomacy 
that General Townsend discussed in Africa. We see the same 
thing across our region. You know, we should not forget that 
China actually imports a significant fraction of their 
hydrocarbons from the region, and through the Strait of Hormuz, 
and from the Arabian Gulf, so they are going to be very 
interested in the region. So I think right now what we are 
seeing is the leading edge of a long-term Chinese plan to 
firmly establish themselves in the region.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Now let me 
recognize via Webex, Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
General McKenzie and General Townsend, for being here. So, 
General McKenzie, President Biden recently announced his plans 
to withdraw all United States Forces from Afghanistan no later 
than September 11th, 2021. That is going to mark our longest 
war ever, so I just want to review what has happened just over 
the past decade and where we stand right now. General McKenzie, 
is it true that the Taliban has more members today than it did 
10 years ago?
    General McKenzie. The Taliban has 50,000 or so members 
today. I would have to come back to you on where that stands 
compared to 10 years ago, Senator.
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    Currently, the estimated strength of the Taliban is 60,000 
to 80,000 full-time fighters. In 2011, the number of Taliban 
fighters was estimated at 20,000 to 25,000. Taliban strength 
has continued to increase from as low as 20,000 in 2011 to 
60,000 in 2018, to as high as 85,000 as of March 2021.

    Senator Warren. Well, actually, I think the number could be 
as high as 85,000, according to the special inspector general 
for Afghanistan reconstruction, and that is almost triple what 
it was in 2011. You might want to go back and look at those 
numbers. Does the Taliban control more of Afghanistan than it 
did 10 years ago?
    General McKenzie. Yes, it does, Senator.
    Senator Warren. Yes, and does Pakistan or elements of the 
Pakistani Government still provide support and sanctuary to the 
Taliban?
    General McKenzie. We believe that elements of the Taliban 
are in Pakistan. Yes, Senator, we do.
    Senator Warren. Is corruption in the Afghan Government 
still endemic?
    General McKenzie. The Afghan Government has corruption, 
significant corruption.
    Senator Warren. Yes, and after all this time and all this 
work to prop up and support the Afghan Government, is it fair 
to say that Afghans still have little trust in their government 
and elections just as they did 10 years ago?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I would defer to the Department 
of State for a better commentary on that.
    Senator Warren. All right. I think if you check their 
commentary, they will say yes. The situation in Afghanistan has 
not improved in the last 10 years, even with our troops 
present, and it is clear there is little for us to be gained by 
a continued United States presence there. I strongly support 
President Biden's decision to withdraw U.S. troops. We should 
have learned by now that a conditions-based withdrawal is just 
a recipe for staying in Afghanistan forever. Defense officials 
have come before this committee year after year to proclaim 
that the United States has turned the corner in Afghanistan, 
but all I see is a vicious cycle that damages our Nation's 
reputation abroad and keeps our troops in harm's way, while 
producing little tangible benefit for our security.
    Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I yield the remainder of 
my time.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Warren. Now let 
me recognize Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for your service. General McKenzie, I appreciate our 
discussion yesterday. Let me start with a big kind of picture 
issue. You are in the Middle East, a lot of energy there. Does 
it help or hurt the United States of America from a national 
security and foreign policy perspective that we are now the 
world's energy superpower, producing more natural gas than 
Russia, more oil than Saudi Arabia? Does that help our national 
security posture in the Middle East and other places in the 
world?
    General McKenzie. I would say--I would think that it helps 
globally. It certainly helps in the CENTCOM region.
    Senator Sullivan. So do you think it makes sense from a 
perspective to just unilaterally start reducing the production 
of American energy? It kills jobs, but I am talking about from 
the national security perspective, to enable Saudi Arabia and 
Russia to be bigger energy producers than us. Does that makes 
sense, from your perspective, national security, your personal 
opinion?
    General McKenzie. Sir, I would--first, I would defer to 
Commerce for a more informed opinion.
    Senator Sullivan. I am asking as a----
    General McKenzie.----I would say that it is not helpful to 
the United States.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. You know, General, this is a 
very difficult decision, controversial decision. Certainly I 
wish the President would not have picked September 11th as some 
kind of date to celebrate. It is not a good date in American 
history. I think the Taliban is going to have a great 
propaganda victory by saying 20 years ago there was a victory, 
now there is a victory. I do not believe that it is a victory, 
but I hope in the future that the President, Secretary of 
Defense, even you do not use September 11th as some kind of 
date we are celebrating here for 2021 on the withdrawal of 
troops. You do not need to comment on that. I just think it is 
baffling that somehow somebody in the White House thought that 
was a good day to choose.
    One thing that we are hearing, many of our bravest men and 
women fought. Many died, sacrificed. You know, you start to 
hear this mantra that, well, they--if we are pulling out, the 
Taliban takeover, which is a distinct possibility, that these 
sacrifices, particularly those who died, died in vain. You 
know, I had the honor of serving as a staff officer to General 
Abizaid for 1-and-a-half years when he was CENTCOM commander 
many years ago. He said something once that really struck me. 
He said, no American who has ever fought for freedom or the 
defense of the national security of the United States has ever 
died in vain. What would you say to the men and women who 
fought in Afghanistan, wounded families who lost loved ones, 
about their sacrifice, even though we are leaving?
    General McKenzie. Senator, first of all, there is really 
nothing I can say to replace the empty chair at the table, the 
loss of a loved one, and I am very much humbled by recognizing 
that. I cannot improve on what General Abizaid said. In many 
ways, you know, to fight for freedom is not to give something 
up in vain. I think it is--but I think it is a very--it is 
still very hard on those people. As you know, I have been to 
Afghanistan multiple times, as has General Townsend seated 
beside me. My son has been to Afghanistan twice, so I am well 
aware of the burden that has been placed on families of this 
Nation to support our fight there.
    Senator Sullivan. I just want to make sure our message to 
these families, to the men and women who served, sacrificed, 
some gave their lives, that it is not going to be your 
sacrifice did not mean anything. I would agree with General 
Abizaid. I hope that can be the statement from our military 
leaders. No American who has ever fought for freedom in the 
security of this Nation has died in vain, regardless of what 
happens in Afghanistan in the next 2 to 3 years. Would you 
agree with that?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I would, certainly.
    Senator Sullivan. Would you agree with that, General?
    General Townsend. Senator, I would. Absolutely.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask one final question. General, 
you are a Marine. You know honor, courage, and commitment is a 
cornerstone of our ethos. Semper Fidelis. Do you believe 
nations have honor?
    General McKenzie. I do believe nations have honor.
    Senator Sullivan. So one thing that I worry about, given 
this decision, is that a lot of people who worked with our 
military, their lives are going to be at risk. The women who 
are now parliamentarian, their lives are going to be at risk if 
the Taliban takes over, which I think is a distinct 
possibility. I think we should be doing much more and planning 
much more to try to protect those lives, maybe get them out of 
Afghanistan if needed. Would you agree with that and if there 
is a plan to do that? Well, what is the plan to do that right 
now, and if there is not a plan, would you be able to execute a 
plan if we were able to keep our word to people who sacrificed 
and worked with us, who, now their lives are clearly going to 
be at risk, to help them? Would that not help the honor of 
America despite leaving?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I know the Department of State 
is looking at a variety of venues, the Special Immigrant Visa 
Program, among others, you know, to potentially get people out. 
We have the capability to do that if so directed.
    Senator Sullivan. I certainly hope we look at doing that in 
a big way. I think the idea of a year from now or a year-and-a-
half from now if the Taliban takes over, which I think is a 
distinct possibility, and you have people who worked with our 
troops who are lined up and shot or killed because they worked 
with Americans, I think that would be a stain on our honor as a 
Nation, and I hope that we are making plans to avoid that. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator. Now let me recognize 
Senator Rosen via Webex.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe for holding this hearing, of course, and I would like to 
thank Generals Townsend and McKenzie for testifying today, and, 
of course, for their service to our country. I would like to 
speak a little bit about maintaining Israel's Qualitative 
Military Edge (QME) because for decades, maintaining Israel's 
qualitative military edge has been a bipartisan American 
foreign policy priority. It has been codified in law since 
2008.
    In recent years, the combination of Iran acquiring advanced 
Russian and Chinese systems, transfers of arms to terrorist 
groups, and an escalating weapons race in the region undermine 
Israel's QME, and they pose a significant conventional threat 
to the United States personnel. Just last night, a Syrian 
surface-to-air missile exploded in Israel, demonstrating the 
danger of advanced missiles proliferating through the region. 
So, General McKenzie, what is your assessment of Israel's 
current QME, and what must be done to maintain it? Do you view 
the escalating arms race in the region as having a negative 
impact on Israel's QME?
    General McKenzie. Senator, you know, I am newly energized 
to study the Israeli question because of the movement of Israel 
into the Central Command under the recent Unified Command (UCP) 
decision, although I have looked at it for several years at 
United States Central Command. I am confident that we will be 
able to preserve Israel's QME going forward, even considering 
arms sales to various countries across the region. We should 
also reflect that the arm sales to those countries across the 
region at least partially reflects the increasing normalization 
of ties between Israel and those nations. Nonetheless, I am 
absolutely confident that we will be able to retain Israel's 
military advantage.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I look forward to revisiting that 
with you as you move forward. I would like to move next to the 
MQ-9 production because the MQ-9 is remotely piloted aircraft. 
It plays a critical role in supporting our current intelligence 
surveillance and reconnaissance requirements. A key part of the 
MQ-9's architecture is the mission at Nevada's Creech Air Force 
Base. As force drawdowns in CENTCOM's area of responsibility 
have reduced human intelligence availability, signals 
intelligence capabilities become even more important. Despite 
this, the prior Administration tried to cut MQ-9 production. 
So, again, General McKenzie, last year you included additional 
MQ-9 funding at the top of CENTCOM's unfunded priorities. So 
how would additional MQ-9 aircraft support your ISR mission, 
and what would be the impacts or the gaps in your ISR 
capabilities if that production were to be suspended without a 
follow-up plan?
    General McKenzie. Senator, the MQ-9, MQ-1, and various 
other platforms are critical platforms for us in Central 
Command, particularly for use in the VEO fight. They give us 
the persistent overhead coverage that we need to go through the 
find, fix, and finish part of the equation. So we continue to 
use them, particularly in Afghanistan, but also in Iraq and 
Syria, and we have also found the MQ-9 to be valuable in use 
against Iran. In the summer of 2019, the manipulation of ISR 
assets in and around the Strait of Hormuz directly deflected 
Iranian attack planning, so it is useful in a variety of venues 
for us.
    Senator, I also recognize there is a global demand for 
these resources. Other combatant commands need them. My partner 
here, General Townsend, needs them in Africa as well. It 
remains an invaluable platform for us. I also recognize the 
platform is not viable in a high-end fight, and there are parts 
of CENTCOM that could become a high-end fight. There are parts 
of CENTCOM that are not a high-end fight. The platform is going 
to remain vital to us as we go forward, particularly as we pull 
out of Afghanistan, and our ability to maintain persistent 
overhead coverage will maybe possibly require additional MQ-9s 
in order--because of the range of--range from the base to the 
place where we will actually be looking. We may even need more 
of them in Central Command dedicated to that particular task.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you. I appreciate that, and glad 
to do our part in signals and reconnaissance intelligence, and 
the MQ-9s certainly helps us meet those goals. Thank you. I 
notice my time has just about expired. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, Senator Rosen, 
and there are several members that are endeavoring to get here, 
and in order to allow them a fair opportunity, let me ask an 
additional question or two, and Senator Inhofe joins us. In 
fact, this is perfect timing because I can now introduce and 
recognize Senator Kelly. Are you prepared, Senator?
    Senator Kelly. I am always ready.
    Chairman Reed. Always ready.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and, General 
McKenzie, General Townsend, thank you for your testimony today. 
So we have seen a range of Gray Zone engagement activities by 
near peer competitors throughout Africa and the Middle East, 
from China's pursuit of strategic partnerships with the 
Iranians and attempts to use infrastructure loans of medical 
supplies to gain favor on the African continent, to Russia's 
efforts to establish a foothold in critical mineral extraction 
and a presence on NATO's southern edge. The national defense 
strategy speaks of the need to expand the competitive space. 
With that in mind, I would like to get both of your thoughts on 
how the U.S. should be engaging in this environment to build 
relationships in each of these areas of responsibility with an 
eye towards countering the opportunistic influence-seeking 
behaviors by our competitors and discouraging any further 
escalation. General Townsend?
    General Townsend. Thanks, Senator. So you have correctly 
pointed out that Russia and China are competing deliberately 
and hard in Africa with the United States. I believe that they 
are determined to win. China is determined to win that 
competition. I am a little less concerned about Russia's 
competition, although it is not helpful. I think they are 
exploitative. They are self-interested. I think in many ways 
the Russians can be their own worst enemies. I think they are 
less of a longer-term concern to me than China is. China is a 
concern today and longer term. They are a learning 
organization. They are spending a lot of money in Africa. We do 
not have to outspend them. What we have to do is figure out 
where we need to out-compete them and how to do that, and how 
to do that is a whole-of-government solution.
    In my view, the first thing I am concerned about with 
China, number one, is an Atlantic Coast naval base. Number two, 
it is their activities in North Africa, and I can discuss that 
more in a closed session. My third concern would be the 
influence of Russia in Libya. As the Libyan national 
government--there is a sort of forming up now. Maybe there is a 
path forward there that is better. My fourth concern would be a 
Libyan naval--or a Russian naval base in Sudan on the Red Sea. 
So those are my top four global power competition concerns with 
those competitors, and it is a whole-of-government approach I 
think that will get us there. Most African partners want to 
partner with us.
    Senator Kelly. When you are thinking about China's desire 
to have an Atlantic Coast naval base, where do you think the 
most likely place is that they are exploring right now?
    General Townsend. Senator, let me say this. They have 
placed bets from Mauritania in the north to Namibia in the 
south, and many countries in between. I would really rather dig 
into those details in closed session.
    Senator Kelly. Okay. Thank you. General McKenzie?
    General McKenzie. Senator, when we talk about competition 
against Russia and China in the gray space, clearly we need to 
think globally, not just in the western Pacific and not just in 
Europe. The principal tools that we use in Central Command 
range from exercises with our partners. Everybody wants to 
exercise with the United States, so we work those very hard 
with all these partners. The other is International Military 
Education and Training (IMET), bringing their officers and Non-
Commissioned Officers (NCOs) to the United States for 
educational opportunities, extremely low-cost, extremely high 
payoff. Everybody wants to go to a U.S. school if they can 
have--a military school if they have--if they can have the 
opportunity to do that.
    Additionally, security cooperation. As Steve noted, 
everybody wants our weapons. They would prefer to buy from us. 
They accept the restrictions that we will place on those 
weapons, but we have a variety of tools that we can employ, and 
that is just in the military domain. On the whole-of-government 
side, I would just call out, too, the economic aid that we can 
offer and the work of USAID. All of those working in concert 
with us give us significant advantages that we can apply 
against Russia and China, particularly in the Central Command 
AOR.
    Senator Kelly. If we were able to expand those educational 
opportunities for foreign, often, officers, but just military 
personnel, is the demand--I mean, how significant is the demand 
right now?
    General McKenzie. The demand is--the demand far outpaces 
supply. Far outpaces supply.
    Senator Kelly. So we could double the----
    General McKenzie. You could double, triple. You could 
quadruple. You could do a lot of things. The problem really is 
on our end. I mean, our institutions are good because they are 
scoped in size, and we recognize that, but nonetheless, there 
is enormous demand for these.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Well, thank you very much. Very 
quickly, thanks for being here today. General McKenzie, what is 
the most important thing we can do to prevent a resurgence of 
ISIS in Syria and Iraq, and are we doing enough?
    General McKenzie. I think we are on track to do that. I 
think the Iraqis are a lot better at fighting ISIS. We have 
pulled back from accompanying them in the fight to high-level 
advising. They can generally master the battlefield and protect 
their own country, so I think we are in a good place. I think 
we are in a good place in Iraq. In Syria, we work with our 
Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) partners to continue the fight 
against ISIS remnants. They do not hold any ground. You know, 
there are small, isolated groups of them that operate up and 
down the Euphrates River, and we go after them pretty hard. 
Because of that, they are unable to generate effective attack 
plans against the United States or our allies.
    Senator Tuberville. General Townsend, how will China's 
growing influence in the region disrupt the United States' 
abilities to impact long-term strategic goals?
    General Townsend. Senator, I think our number one strategic 
goal for Africa is to ensure that the United States has the 
access and the strategic influence that we need in the future. 
That is, I think, the number one concern I have for China's 
activity in Africa is that they will try to maneuver us or box 
us out of access and influence. I would say that we have an 
edge still. As much money as they have invested and as many 
activities that they are doing, we still have an edge in access 
and influence.
    An example I use is our rescue of an American citizen that 
was held hostage in Nigeria just last October. In an hour's 
notice, we asked seven countries for access to their country 
for our armed forces to enter their country and do some 
military activity. In many of these countries, this was done 
over the phone with literally hours to give us an answer. All 
seven said yes, and that is an example of the access and 
influence the United States has today, and we need to work to 
ensure we have that access and influence in the future, and not 
all seven of those countries are what we would consider strong 
and close partners, but they all said yes to that request.
    Senator Tuberville. Excellent. Thank you. General McKenzie, 
are there effective measures being taken today by CENTCOM to 
address the individual displaced persons crisis along the 
Syrian and Iraqi border? If so, how?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I remain very concerned about 
displaced persons in northeast Syria. It is not a military 
problem. It is really a whole-of-government, and more than 
that, it is actually an international problem. We have trained 
the people that were in those camps--that is our 
responsibility--and we prevent external actors from getting in 
there and causing harm. Nonetheless, those camps are incubators 
for radical ideology. We need to find a way to return, 
particularly the children, but also the other members, back to 
the countries that they came from, and that requires an 
international effort, and I know the Department of State is 
working very hard to make that--to make that happen. It is a 
tough--it is an uphill sled, though, trying to make--trying to 
achieve that. This is one of my most significant concerns, sir.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. General Townsend, as we 
build relationships with African nations, such as Morocco and 
Algeria, how does this strengthen our national security?
    General Townsend. Both of those countries sit in a 
geostrategically important part of Africa. They both have--
Morocco directly watches over the Strait of Gibraltar, and 
Algeria is close enough to influence the Strait of Gibraltar in 
the western Med. So from a geostrategic standpoint, we 
absolutely need good working relations with those two 
countries. Morocco is a very strong partner of the United 
States, probably our number one African partner as far as 
relationships go. They take great pride in their military being 
equipped primarily with United States equipment and operating 
at a standard that is equivalent to a NATO standard, so they 
are very strong partner. Algeria has been--has had close ties 
with Russia for decades. However, they have recently been 
expressing a desire to increase their ties with the United 
States, and we do have a good working relationship with Algeria 
on issues of mutual concern.
    Senator Tuberville. Do we sell Morocco a lot of arms and 
equipment?
    General Townsend. I am sorry?
    Senator Tuberville. Do we sell Morocco a lot of arms and 
equipment?
    General Townsend. We do, and unlike a lot of African 
partners, they purchase it all with their own money.
    Senator Tuberville. Excellent. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville, and now I 
would like to recognize via Webex, Senator Hawley, please.
    [No response.]
    Chairman Reed. I know Senator Hawley is trying very quickly 
to get either to Webex----
    Senator Hawley. There we go. Can you hear me now, Mr. 
Chairman?
    Chairman Reed. I can, Senator. Please proceed.
    Senator Hawley. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Sorry. 
I could not hear you there. Thank you, gentlemen, for being 
here, and thank you, Mr. Chairman, for being patient with me.
    General McKenzie, let me start with you, if I could. 
Secretary Austin said recently that the United States will be 
able to maintain counterterrorism capabilities in the region 
sufficient to ensure Afghanistan cannot become a safe haven for 
terrorists who threaten our security. Again, that was Secretary 
Austin. Can you just give me a sense, do you agree with the 
Secretary's assessment that we can achieve our counterterrorism 
objectives in Afghanistan even once we complete the drawdown 
that President Biden has directed?
    General McKenzie. Senator, I do agree with that assessment. 
You know, we will rely on our defense in depth. The changes 
that have been made to security here in the United States make 
our Homeland a much harder target than it was in 2001. 
Additionally, the re-basing that we will do across the theater 
as we pull out of Afghanistan will give us the capability to go 
back in as necessary to strike targets when they need to be 
struck. I do not want to make it sound too easy. It is going to 
be extremely difficult to do that. It is certainly possible to 
do that, and we will have the forces that will allow us to 
accomplish those tasks.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you for that answer. I am glad to 
hear that. What are some of the options, can you give us a 
sense, that CENTCOM is evaluating for finding and neutralizing 
targets in Afghanistan once we withdraw our forces?
    General McKenzie. Sure. I would prefer to cover it in 
detail perhaps in the closed session.
    Senator Hawley. Sure.
    General McKenzie. But just very broadly, I would tell you 
that you always need a combination of--you want--the formula is 
you have got to--you got to find them, you got to fix the 
target, then you have to finish the target. So we tend to think 
in those terms when we talk about the resources that we will 
need. What you will need is the ability to bring persistent 
overhead coverage in, probably from extended ranges, to still 
loiter and take a look at areas that you want to further 
examine. The reason you are going to need persistent coverage 
is, if you plan to strike something, we are going to strike it 
in full compliance with the law of armed conflict: low 
collateral damage and the American way of war. So we are going 
to make sure if we go after something, it is really what we 
want to hit, and we are not going to kill innocent people 
should that be necessary.
    So we will do all that from extremely long range and it 
will be a challenge, but we do have the capability to do it. We 
have a number of ways to get to a fixed solution, ranging from 
a precision strike at very long range to on-the-ground options 
should those prove necessary. I would really prefer to talk a 
little bit more about those in a closed session, sir.
    Senator Hawley. Absolutely. Give me a sense, General, if 
CENTCOM has done a similar analysis to identify ways that we 
can achieve our counterterrorism objectives in Iraq, should we 
withdraw our forces there.
    General McKenzie. The logic is the same. We would certainly 
be able to do that, and the logic would be the same.
    Senator Hawley. Would you be willing in the appropriate 
setting to share your findings with the Committee in terms of 
the analysis you have done about how we might achieve that in 
Iraq?
    General McKenzie. Certainly. Of course, right now we do not 
anticipate withdrawing from Iraq. In fact, we believe, as a 
result of the strategic dialogue that was just completed in the 
last 2 weeks, we will maintain a footprint in Iraq going 
forward. But certainly, pending approval of the Secretary and 
further--you know, and further approval by the Department, we 
would be willing to do that.
    Senator Hawley. Yeah, let me perhaps rephrase my question. 
Has CENTCOM done a similar--you are doing this analysis now for 
Afghanistan because of the President's order in terms of how we 
can reposition there to achieve our counterterrorism 
objectives. Has CENTCOM done a similar analysis for Iraq in the 
event that our force posture there might change significantly?
    General McKenzie. Senator, not vis-a-vis Iraq particularly, 
although the logic of the argument, the logic of the capability 
would be the same where there is a target against Afghanistan 
or Iraq. So the work that we are doing right now would be 
useful should that prove necessary at some contingent time in 
the future as yet unplanned.
    Senator Hawley. Do you anticipate doing an analysis for the 
Iraq situation? The reason I am asking, General, it seems that 
if we are going to have a meaningful discussion about our 
continued military presence there, we are going to need to know 
the options, what we can realistically hope to achieve should 
we draw down or leave entirely.
    General McKenzie. Sure. So right now we are not planning 
for that in Iraq, is probably the best way to answer your 
question. We could plan for it very rapidly if so directed, 
but, again, I note that right now we do plan on maintaining a 
presence in Iraq into the future, subject to agreements and 
further discussions with the Government of Iraq.
    Senator Hawley. Let me just ask you in the few seconds I 
have remaining, General, DOD budgeted about $4 billion last 
year for the Afghan Security Forces Fund. That is just short of 
the amount that United States Indo-Pacific Command (PACOM) 
needs for this year's installment of the Pacific Deterrence 
Initiative. At the same time, there is strong reason to believe 
that the Afghan security forces will be significantly reduced, 
harmed, or just collapse when United States troops depart. Here 
is my question. From a military standpoint, under what 
conditions would you say that it is no longer advisable for DOD 
to be investing this amount--these billions of dollars each 
year in the Afghan security forces?
    General McKenzie. Senator, that is a sort of a future 
hypothetical question which I try to avoid answering, but I can 
tell you this. If we do not provide them some support, they 
certainly will collapse, and I think that is not in our best 
interests.
    Senator Hawley. Yeah. The reason--as you can probably 
anticipate, the reason I am asking is I am concerned that we 
will continue to pour resources into the security forces 
without much return on investment when we need them. We need 
those resources very badly in other theaters, particularly in 
our pacing theater. I have had just about used up my time here, 
I think. In fact, I am over my time. Thank you, General, for 
being here. Thank you, General Townsend, as well. I will have 
some additional questions for you in a written setting. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. This concludes 
the open session. Let me yield to Senator Inhofe for any 
comments he might have.
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah, I do. I want to make sure the staff, 
anyone who is here, understands that we have a lot of questions 
we want to ask in a closed session. That is going to take place 
in 217. We have four votes coming up, so it is going to be very 
convenient to be down there, run up and get our votes and come 
back, so I would invite all of our members to come to that 
closed session immediately.
    Chairman Reed. Let me echo what Senator Inhofe said. In 
fact, I was going to say that, but he----
    Senator Inhofe.----Oh.
    [Laughter.]
    Chairman Reed. This is sort of ESP, I think. I do not know 
what is going on. But, yes, we are going to adjourn immediately 
to SVC-217. We will have a closed session. It will be people 
coming in and out to vote, but there are many issues we want to 
cover there. Gentleman, thank you for your testimony, thank you 
for your service, and for those who serve in your commands.
    The open hearing is adjourned.

    [Whereupon, at 11:32 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
       iran and reentering the joint comprehensive plan of action
    1. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, would rejoining the Joint 
Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) be a positive step in containing 
Iran's nuclear ambitions?
    General McKenzie. Our diplomats at the Department of State have the 
lead for the nuclear talks currently underway in Vienna, working with 
our Allies to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. The JCPOA 
effectively constrained Iran's nuclear program by blocking all of 
Tehran's potential pathways to a nuclear weapon and enabled robust 
international monitoring of all aspects of Iran's nuclear program. An 
agreement that verifiably restrains Iranian return to full nuclear 
activities and strict compliance with its commitments under the deal 
extends breakout timelines preventing an Iranian weapons in the U.S 
national security interest.

    2. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, how does extending the nuclear 
weapon production timeline support the United States' strategic 
interests in the region?
    General McKenzie. Iran's behavior remains the greatest, single 
threat to security and stability in the region. Our diplomats are hard 
at work with Allies to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. If 
they are able to make progress in curtailing Iran's nuclear program, 
particularly by extending Iran's breakout timeline, this would 
depressurize the region by reducing the likelihood of the development 
of a weapon of mass destruction and the chances for increased regional 
conflict as a result of that acquisition.

    3. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, how does extending the nuclear 
weapon production timeline support your ability to plan for 
contingencies if Iran does attempt to build nuclear weapons?
    General McKenzie. [Deleted.]
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    4. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, are you preparing contingency 
plans to react if United States Forces are attacked by the Taliban 
during the withdrawal?
    General McKenzie. USCENTCOM has a plan in place, to include 
carrier-based airpower, bombers, and other crisis response forces to 
protect United States and coalition troops as we withdraw from 
Afghanistan. We are confident we have the right capabilities in place 
to defend our troops and respond to any attacks. We will maintain a 
regional counterterrorism capacity, with a military and intelligence 
assets in the region, that can counter the re-emergence of a terrorist 
threat and deal with it if it does emerge. We will also hold the 
Taliban accountable if they are not doing what they have committed to 
do. Conducting counter-terrorism surveillance and suppression without a 
``platform'' in Afghanistan is a lot harder, but it is not impossible.

    5. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, what role will United States 
Central Command (CENTCOM) play in preventing violent extremist 
organizations like al Qaeda and ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria] 
from regaining a foothold in Afghanistan after the withdrawal?
    General McKenzie. The United States will conserve and sustain 
regional counterterrorism capabilities with our international and 
Afghan partners to prevent the emergence of terrorist networks that 
could threaten the United States homeland. Furthermore, through 
diplomatic efforts with Government of the Islamic Republic of 
Afghanistan, the United States Government will hold the Taliban to its 
commitments to ensure that al Qaeda or any other group never again can 
use Afghanistan as a base of operations against the United States.
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    6. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, over the last several years 
Iran has become increasingly involved in the conflict in Syria. What is 
the current status of United States Forces in Syria?
    General McKenzie. In Syria, approximately 900 United States 
military personnel support the Counter Islamic State of Iraq and Syria 
(ISIS) mission from bases in northeastern Syria and At-Tanf Garrison, a 
desert garrison located in southeastern Syria near the border with Iraq 
and Jordan. We provide training and enabling support to vetted Syrian 
groups and individuals, including the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) in 
the Eastern Syria Security Area. We have provided training to the SDF 
on operational and tactical skills such as marksmanship, heavy weapon 
employment, and mounted maneuver (vehicle operations). We also provide 
intelligence and other enabling support to the SDF. We continue to 
provide training and equipment to help increase SDF's capacity to 
manage their detention facilities, holding approximately 10,000 ISIS 
detainees.

    7. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, how are United States Forces 
managing Iranian involvement in this conflict?
    General McKenzie. [Deleted.]

    8. Senator Hirono. General McKenzie, what conditions do you believe 
need to be satisfied before the United States withdraws our remaining 
forces from Syria?
    General McKenzie. First, I would like to say that the United States 
leaving Syria is a policy decision. For USCENTCOM, our mission is to 
defeat Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Although ISIS no longer 
holds territory, remnants of ISIS remain a threat and given the 
opportunity, ISIS will reconstitute its capability to plan and attack 
the homeland, our interest, and our Allies and partners. Our forces in 
Syria provide vetted Syrian groups and individuals with the equipment, 
training, and intelligence that they need to continue to counter the 
ISIS threat. When our vetted partner forces, including the Syrian 
Democratic Forces, are capable of dealing with this threat without our 
support, then I would be satisfied that the military conditions have 
been met for a withdrawal of our remaining forces.
                      population growth in africa
    9. Senator Hirono. General Townsend, as noted in your posture 
statement, the population of the African continent is growing rapidly 
and has the potential to exacerbate the extreme poverty already present 
on the continent, especially among younger generations who both make up 
the majority of the population and are most vulnerable to recruitment 
by violent extremist organizations. What steps is United States Africa 
Command (AFRICOM) taking, in coordination with our interagency partners 
and allies, to address recruitment efforts by violent extremist 
organizations on the continent?
    General Townsend. Africa's increasing youth population can be a 
positive force for prosperity, innovation, and growth. Future 
generations of young men and women should be viewed as our shared 
responsibility to protect from the cruelties of al Shabaab, Boko Haram, 
and ISIS. If left defenseless in unstable environments, African youth 
are vulnerable to a wide range of malign actors, including criminal 
networks, militias, and in some cases, violent extremist organizations 
(VEOs). In many cases, VEOs specifically target young people and 
forcibly kidnap or coerce them into their ranks.
    To help African partners protect their youth, USAFRICOM works 
closely with the interagency to improve security, stop the spread of 
extremist ideologies, and stabilize regions affected by VEOs. 
USAFRICOM, in conjunction with Allies and partners, degrades VEO 
networks to create the environment for the Department of State and 
USAID's stabilization and development activities to take root. 
USAFRICOM, in close collaboration with USAID, conducts humanitarian 
assistance to address underlying drivers of instability, working with 
host governments to provide essential services and relieve acute 
conditions. We share the premise with our interagency partners that 
young people are more likely to work with security forces to stand up 
to VEOs when they trust those security forces to protect them and have 
hope for a brighter future. This is one of the key reasons why the 
United States is often the security partner of choice in Africa, in 
recognition of our core values versus malign alternatives.

    10. Senator Hirono. General Townsend, are there any additional 
authorities or initiatives that require Congress' help in this area?
    General Townsend. USAFRICOM has supported officers from eleven 
African partners to attend courses on countering VEO recruitment taught 
by the Joint Special Operations University (JSOU). Increased funding 
for such courses and other IMET funds would help address underlying 
drivers of radicalization, USAFRICOM works to strengthen citizen 
security by professionalizing partner forces through the Institutional 
Capacity Building (ICB) Sec. 332 Authority in support of the Building 
Partner Capacity Sec. 333 Authority. The Ministerial and Service level 
ICB Lines of Effort strengthen the institutions shaping African 
security sectors, and by extension, African security broadly. 
Congress's continued support for these efforts would go far to ensure 
African youth are free from the spectre of VEO recruitment. I would 
also submit that addressing the risks of climate change in Africa can 
further insulate fledging institutions from the strain of climate-
induced crises and VEO alternatives. The resumption and expansion of 
the Defense Environmental International Cooperation Program, which lost 
funding in 2020, would provide USAFRICOM with critical tools to reduce 
the risk for Africa youth and citizens. When African youth are safe 
from irregular threats attempting to recruit or coerce them into 
service, they are free to pursue productive futures.

    islamic state of iraq and syria in united states africa command
    11. Senator Hirono. General Townsend, ISIS continues to develop a 
foothold in North and East Africa and based on the recent attack in 
Palma, Mozambique last month, it seems that ISIS is gaining ground in 
southern Africa and across the continent. Can you provide an overview 
of your assessment of ISIS in the AFRICOM area of operations?
    General Townsend. ISIS branches and aspirants in Africa are mostly 
on an upward trajectory. The two exceptions are in North Africa where 
most of ISIS's affiliates have been largely degraded and are focused on 
survival and in Horn of Africa where their presence is small and 
competes with Al Shabaab. However, in West, East, and Central Africa, 
ISIS branches are growing and expanding in under-governed areas, 
exploiting poor economic conditions, ethnic competition, and weak 
security forces. Mozambique is a prime example of this, where ISIS-
Mozambique, since its inception in 2017, has exponentially grown the 
frequency and complexity of its attacks, and expanded its geographic 
areas of operations into neighboring Tanzania and to the western LNG 
sites in northern Mozambique. In West Africa, ISIS-West Africa is 
ISIS's largest and most active province outside of Iraq and Syria, and 
has consolidated control over its Lake Chad Basin safehaven. The group 
has expelled Nigerian military and security forces and attacked Boko 
Haram in these safehavens and has provided rudimentary governance and 
social service to the local populace since at least early 2018. ISIS in 
the Greater Sahara maintains a presence in Sahelien West Africa and 
continues low-level attacks, but is still recovering from losses 
sustained from French CT operations and conflict with al-Qaida 
affiliates in the area. In the Democratic Republic of the Congo, a 
previously anti-Uganda insurgent group rebranded itself and pledged 
allegiance to ISIS in 2017, and attacks local security forces, UN 
peacekeepers, NGOs, and local towns and villages. Along with the ISIS 
Branch in Somalia, these groups are increasingly interconnected and are 
fueling the growth and expansion of ISIS supporters in many sub-Saharan 
Africa countries. Although all of these groups are focused locally in 
their areas of operation, their attacks and ability to control 
territory offer ISIS core fodder for their media releases and 
propaganda, which allows ISIS to portray a successful and expanding 
caliphate to its global support base despite setbacks in other areas of 
the world.

    12. Senator Hirono. General Townsend, how are you partnering with 
nations across the continent to counter ISIS attacks and recruitment?
    General Townsend. Senator, the bottom line up front is USAFRICOM is 
not resourced to do very much to help partners to counter growing ISIS 
attacks, and recruitment. Where we do try to help, USAFRICOM follows a 
partner-centric approach to countering ISIS attacks and recruitment 
across the continent. This is done primarily through a myriad of Title 
10 and Title 22 capacity-building activities conducted in coordination 
with the inter-agency. Specifically, force modernization and training 
efforts with key African partners provide them with the tools and 
knowledge necessary to confront ISIS on the battlefield. Military 
intelligence capacity building also plays an important role helping 
partners to understand how to obtain, verify, and analyze intelligence 
and then appropriately use it in operational decision cycles. In doing 
so, USAFRICOM and its components create sustainable entities, which do 
not only anticipate and respond to security threats but aid in more 
professional operations, grounded in doctrine.
    USAFRICOM capacity building activities are important, but the long-
term fight with ISIS will not be won on the battlefield alone. Good 
governance, economic opportunity, and human development in African 
societies are antidotes to ISIS recruitment. To that end, USAFRICOM 
plays a supporting role to USAID and Department of State ``3D'' 
Diplomacy, Development, and Defense activities. USAFRICOM also supports 
many Department of State programs, such as the Global Peace Operations 
Initiative (GPOI), the Partnership for Regional East Africa 
Counterterrorism (PREACT), Trans-Sahara Counterterrorism Partnership 
(TSCTP), Africa Military Education Program (AMEP), and coordinates with 
the Department of State to advance Women, Peace, and Security (WPS) on 
the continent. These programs, among others, strengthen the ability of 
our African partners to counter ISIS recruitment activities by 
providing training on human rights and the rule of law.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                            mq-9 production
    13. Senator Rosen. General Townsend, how would additional MQ-9 
aircraft support AFRICOM's intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance (ISR) mission?
    General Townsend. Additional ISR, manned or unmanned and preferably 
SIGINT enabled and armed, is AFRICOM's number one unresourced unfunded 
priority. Additional aircraft would meaningfully bolster USAFRICOM's 
counter-violent extremist organization and strategic competition 
missions by providing additional coverage in both space and time - 
increasing our situational awareness of adversarial activities on the 
continent. With vast distances between basing locations and operating 
areas, MQ1/9s provide the essential range and long-endurance ISR 
capability we require. Additional MQ1/9s would also fill a force 
protection role, enabling increased DOD and DOS engagement 
opportunities on the continent.

    14. Senator Rosen. General Townsend, what would be the impacts of a 
gap in ISR capabilities if MQ-9 production were to be suspended without 
a follow-on plan?
    General Townsend. Additional ISR, manned or unmanned and preferably 
SIGINT enabled and armed, is AFRICOM's number one unresourced unfunded 
priority. I don't know how suspending MQ-9 production would affect 
USAFRICOM's allocation of ISR assets. The United States Air Force would 
be better equipped to answer how a change in production would impact 
their force offering to the Joint Force. If suspended production 
resulted in reduced capacity, Joint Staff could potentially make 
adjustments to the global allocation to USAFRICOM and other combatant 
commands. A reduction in allocation to USAFRICOM would impact our 
ability to address security concerns and provide force protection to 
United States and partner forces during operations, engagements and 
crisis response.
          transfer of israel to united states central command
    15. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, how have Arab states under 
CENTCOM's area of responsibilities that don't have diplomatic relations 
with Israel responded to the transfer?
    General McKenzie. USCENTCOM has noted no reactions from AOR states 
to the Unified Command Plan change.
                           iranian aggression
    16. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, what are the impacts on 
regional stability of this new agreement between China and Iran? Is 
this merely a piece of paper or is it the beginning of significant 
strategic relations between Beijing and Tehran?
    General McKenzie. The China-Iran 25-year agreement provides a non-
binding framework for Chinese investment in Iranian infrastructure in 
return for guaranteed Iranian oil sales at a discount and increased 
military cooperation. High-level Chinese diplomatic visits to key Gulf 
partners, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, and 
Bahrain suggest Beijing will seek to continue balancing its regional 
relationships while avoiding potentially destabilizing actions such as 
certain arms sales to Iran. While the agreement signals China's intent 
to continue strengthening ties with Iran, China has publicly downplayed 
its significance. This agreement signifies a significant change for 
Iran, in light of the potential for increased oil sales and closer 
Iranian-Chinese relations across a broad spectrum. Tehran likely 
believes the deal will ensure reliable revenue and set the stage for 
future additional trade agreements.

    17. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, how is CENTCOM proactively 
protecting our Forces and diplomats from the threat to United States 
and coalition forces posed by Iranian-aligned militia groups?
    General McKenzie. We continually conduct cross-discipline terrorism 
threat assessments, strategic threat analysis, and planning and 
integration to mitigate threats. This detailed assessment and planning 
process enables commanders to deploy and employ various methods of 
active defense such as counter rocket, artillery, and mortar (C-RAM) 
systems and counter unmanned aircraft systems (CUAS) systems. We also 
employ passive defense methods such as structured hardening and 
camouflaging. These active and passive defense measures protect United 
States & coalition forces and diplomats from potential attacks by 
Iranian-aligned militia groups.

    18. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, how is CENTCOM working with 
our regional partners to deter Iranian aggression, including by 
stopping transfers of conventional arms to terrorist groups like Hamas 
and Hezbollah and ensuring freedom of navigation in the region's 
waterways?
    General McKenzie. Starting in 2019, after several incidents in 
which freedom of navigation was threatened by Iran and Iran backed 
militia groups, USCENTCOM partnered with regional and extra-regional 
Allies and partners to establish the International Maritime Security 
Construct. This construct allows nations to provide maritime forces to 
patrol and stand watch to ensure freedom of navigation in the Strait of 
Hormuz, the Arabian Gulf, the Gulf of Oman, and in the vicinity of the 
Bab al-Mandeb Strait. To counter transfers of conventional arms to 
terrorist groups and militias, we are working with the interagency, 
Allies, and partners, to conduct operations to stop the transfer of 
lethal aid to Iranian proxies and partners. Specific actions include 
intelligence gathering and subsequent interdiction of weapons 
shipments. The recent seizure of a large weapons cache by the USS 
Monterey is a recent example of these types of operations.
                     political stability of jordan
    19. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, what military risk do we 
assume with Jordan if political instability in the country escalates?
    General McKenzie. Escalation of political instability in Jordan 
could impede the Department's efforts to strengthen the Jordan Armed 
Forces (JAF) while imposing risk to operations to defeat Islamic State 
of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and counter violent extremist organizations 
(VEO). USCENTCOM requires a balanced, tailored force presence and 
basing network across the Middle East. Jordan is a key partner, 
providing access to several bases, ports, and airspace while 
facilitating the Department's operational reach. The JAF remains 
committed to the defeat ISIS Coalition, providing air, ground, and 
special operations force capabilities. Any degradation to the 
Department's access to Jordan or to the JAF's capacity and will would 
therefore have a lasting effect on regional stability.

    20. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, what are the implications for 
our national security interests?
    General McKenzie. President Biden, in his April 7 call with King 
Abdullah II, emphasized the importance of the King's leadership to the 
United States and the region. If Jordan were to become politically 
unstable it could effectively threaten a key partner of our defeat 
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria campaign. Political instability in 
Jordan could therefore result in the Jordan Armed Forces directing 
their attention away from their efforts to defeat ISIS.

    21. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, can you explain how the recent 
defense agreement with Jordan, which was made public last month, 
benefits our military posture?
    General McKenzie. The Defense Cooperation Agreement (DCA) 
supplements the 1996 Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), and codifies 
additional rights, privileges and immunities for United States Forces, 
such as access to and use of facilities, tax exemptions, and freedom of 
movement, that greatly benefit our military posture in Jordan. The DCA 
also enables the United States to make investments in military 
construction projects to support joint military efforts to defeat ISIS 
and to pursue mutual goals of regional stability and counterterrorism.
                               iron union
    22. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, can you provide an update on 
the Iron Union exercise between the United States and the United Arab 
Emirates?
    General McKenzie. Field Training Exercise (FTX) IRON UNION 14 was 
held in the United Arab Emirates 28 Jan-5 Feb 2021 with one United 
States mechanized infantry company and one United Arab Emirates Land 
Forces Company. All exercise objectives were met, strengthening the 
relationship between the two nations, enhancing interoperability, 
improving partner capacities and promoting regional security. Despite 
the great results from this event, it is the last FTX to be planned, 
with future iterations shifting instead to a computer-based Command 
Post Exercise due to reduction in forces and funding provided to 
USCENTCOM.

    23. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, the Emirati ambassador has 
suggested that the United Arab Emirates (UAE) might invite the Israel 
Defense Forces (IDF) to a future iteration of the Iron Union exercise. 
Do you believe it would be a good thing to begin to build a more 
unified and capable American, Arab, and Israeli coalition to push back 
on aggression from Tehran?
    General McKenzie. The participation of Israel Defense Forces in 
future exercises with other regional partners in the USCENTCOM Area of 
Responsibility would certainly be a positive step towards regional 
stability. While there are benefits to keeping some exercises as 
bilateral events only, efforts to further normalize relationships among 
all USCENTCOM partners would benefit everyone involved, enhance 
regional stability, and send a strong signal to potential adversaries. 
Increasing the number, scope or scale of any exercise events will not 
be achievable without a corresponding increase in funding and resources 
available.

    24. Senator Rosen. General McKenzie, would you welcome an Emirati 
invitation to the IDF to join the next Iron Union Exercise?
    General McKenzie. USCENTCOM welcomes any effort to enhance regional 
relationships and expand U.S. interoperability with our partners in the 
area of responsibility, and to increase bilateral cooperation between 
each of those partners. While including Israel in Exercise IRON UNION 
is one option, there are also benefits to maintaining some exercises as 
bilateral events. I am looking at all options to try to include Israel 
in events like this and will discuss with our regional partners their 
objectives and desires as well.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                        great power competition
    25. Senator Blackburn. General Townsend, and General McKenzie, are 
you aware of the Chinese and/or Russian disinformation operations being 
propagated within your area of responsibility, and if so is this a 
pervasive issue?
    General Townsend. Chinese disinformation is all over Africa, and 
Beijing is spreading it via both official and unofficial channels. 
We've seen Chinese ambassadors try to obscure the origins of COVID-19, 
for instance, saying in interviews it didn't actually originate in 
China. China also operates more than 60 Confucius Centers across the 
continent. You might go to one to learn Mandarin, but it comes with a 
helping of propaganda. Finally, Chinese media companies, like Star 
Times, which broadcasts in more than 30 countries, will make pro-China 
content, dub it into a local African language, distribute it for free, 
present it as factual journalism, and frequently, fund its publication.
    As for Russia, its influence operations are also pervasive across 
the USAFRICOM AOR, most prominently through the organization of Russian 
oligarch Yevginy Prigozhin. Prigozhin's network has interfered with 
African elections in Zimbabwe, Madagascar, and South Africa. A 
Prigozhin-linked influence operation based in Ghana and Nigeria 
targeted the 2020 United States election. In Libya, Prigozhin's network 
took over television studios and a newspaper to push Russian-approved 
narratives. Influence efforts in Mali, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, and 
Mozambique have criticized French foreign policy, made claims of a 
fictitious coup attempt, and promoted Russian COVID-19 vaccines. These 
influence campaigns also targeted African diaspora populations in 
Europe.
    General McKenzie. Yes. Russian and Chinese disinformation is 
pervasive throughout the USCENTCOM area of responsibility (AOR). Both 
Russian and Chinese operatives seek to shape the information 
environment to undermine United States relations in all 21 AOR states, 
using diplomatic engagements and social/traditional media to question 
United States reliability. Moscow and Beijing tend to prioritize 
efforts in countries in which they have military and economic strategic 
interests and deem to be in their respective spheres of influence (such 
as Central and South Asia). While the efficacy of these efforts varies, 
disinformation is a key component of Russian and Chinese strategic 
competition strategy.

    26. Senator Blackburn. General Townsend, compared to what we spend 
in Iraq, for example, how do the modest expenditures we make for 
AFRICOM counter the influences of China and Russia in ways that impact 
the average American?
    General Townsend. There are approximately 232,000 Americans living 
and working in Africa every single day. These Americans represent a 
significant counterbalance to the 1.1 million Chinese in Africa 
advancing China's ambitious agenda for the continent. Given the vast 
natural resources and incredible growth potential in the population of 
Africa, 1.7 billion by 2030, the United States can ill-afford to ignore 
the economic opportunity in Africa.
    USAFRICOM's modest expenditures are focused on exposing China and 
Russia's malign efforts to undermine sovereignty, forcing African 
countries into disadvantageous agreements, and extracting resources 
from Africa with little benefit for Africans.
    Countries free of Russian and Chinese malign influence create 
opportunities for United States businesses to compete in a rules-based 
system, as part of a free international order. By extension, businesses 
bound by legal regulations, including the many United States companies 
doing business in Africa, have a chance to offer their services in a 
fair and open process. The current efforts underway in Africa are the 
barest minimum that the United States can do to preserve the option to 
play in the economic future of Africa.

    27. Senator Blackburn. General Townsend, what would be the impact 
if Moscow does establish a port in northern Africa?
    General Townsend. Establishing a military port facility in North 
Africa is one of Russia's long-term strategic goals. A dual-use 
civilian/military port or exclusive naval facility would represent a 
significant leap in Russia's level of access and influence in the 
region. It would also be a major advancement in Russia's strategic 
effort to be seen as a global power with NATO as their primary 
opponent. A Russian port increases the Russian Navy's logistical 
support in the Mediterranean, improves intelligence collection of 
United States and NATO forces in Europe and Africa, and reduces their 
reliance on port calls. This is vital to Russia as a means to avoid 
sanctions on access to European ports following their annexation of 
Crimea. Guaranteed access to naval facilities simplifies the logistics 
of Russia's routine naval deployments through the Mediterranean.
    A Russian port facility and consequent increase in Russian Naval 
Assets poses a direct threat to United States and NATO forces by 
improving Russia's ability to monitor and threaten the Mediterranean, 
especially maritime approaches to Syria, the Black Sea and the Suez 
Canal, as well as the Straits of Gibraltar and Straits of Sicily. A 
Russian port in Libya complicates both United States military support 
to diplomatic relations in that country and personnel recovery and 
crisis response across the continent. Direct Russian access to Libyan 
oil complicates United States economic diplomacy and disrupts critical 
access and influence in North Africa. While a base in North Africa 
would be exposed and isolated in a conflict with Russia, it widens the 
problems of potential contested logistics in any war plan dependent on 
the Suez Canal as a strategic line of communication. Finally, USAFRICOM 
is as concerned, or more concerned, about a Chinese naval facility in 
North or West Africa as we are a Russian facility.
                                  iran
    28. Senator Blackburn. General McKenzie, with respect to Iran and 
competition within this proxy force grey zone environment, where could 
we be more effective and what enabling capabilities or authorities do 
you require?
    General McKenzie. [Deleted.]

    29. Senator Blackburn. General McKenzie, Israel has accused Iran of 
providing the Hezbollah militia with precision-guided missile 
production facilities. Is this true, and if so what can the Lebanese 
Armed Forces (LAF) do to prevent Iran from providing Hezbollah with 
this capability?
    General McKenzie. [Deleted.]
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    30. Senator Blackburn. General Townsend, how important to the 
counter-ISIS and counter-al-Shabaab fight is maintaining our political 
influence in Somalia?
    General Townsend. Maintaining political influence in Somalia is 
decisive to the CVEO fight against al-Shabaab and ISIS-Somalia. 
Political influence enables United States interagency efforts that 
ensure the Somalia Security Forces remain an apolitical, professional 
force. If the Somali National Army becomes politicized or devolves into 
militias, the fight against VEO adversaries fails. Regional instability 
provides the fertile ground for terrorist activity with U.S. Homeland 
aspirations. If security forces are distracted with internal political 
conflicts, VEOs will fill the void. Additionally, CVEO strategies that 
rely solely on kinetic targeting are unable to address underlying 
drivers of violent extremism in Somalia. USAFRICOM builds United States 
political influence in Somalia through its contribution to a whole-of-
government approach to CVEO. Maintaining this influence is necessary to 
ensure the Federal Government of Somalia can move forward. As stated in 
President Biden's inaugural address and within the Interim National 
Security Strategic Guidance, ``we will only succeed in advancing 
American interests and upholding our universal values by working in 
common cause with our closest allies and partners.''

    31. Senator Blackburn. General Townsend, how have your 
counterterror operations been impacted by the reduction in United 
States troops on the ground in Mogadishu and has al-Shabaab's activity 
changed as a result?
    General Townsend. Al-Shabaab operations were already on an upward 
trajectory as the United States began its repositioning in December 
2020 and continues on that trend according to academic database data 
and high profile incidents in Mogadishu. Al-Shabaab assassinations of 
government and security force officials in 2021 are at the highest 
levels ever, and as of May, the group has conducted 6 VBIED attacks in 
Mogadishu equaling last year's total number of VBIEDs. Al-Shabaab 
publically celebrated the departure of United States troops from 
Somalia and is using the opportunity to enhance their global 
reputation, increase recruitment, and extend control into new regions 
in central Somalia, all of which may have long-term impacts.

 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, JUNE 10, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BUDGET POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Manchin, Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, 
Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, 
Blackburn, Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. I would like to call this hearing to order. 
The Committee meets today to receive testimony on the 
President's Defense Budget Request for fiscal year 2022.
    Witnesses this morning are Secretary Lloyd Austin, 
Secretary of Defense; Mr. Michael McCord, Under Secretary of 
Defense (Comptroller); and General Mark Milley, Chairman of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff. I welcome each of you and thank you for 
your service and willingness to appear before us today.
    Two weeks ago, President Biden released his Defense Budget 
Request for fiscal year 2022, with a top line of $715 billion. 
The request focuses on several key areas: defeating COVID-19, 
prioritizing China as the pacing challenge, addressing advanced 
and persistent threats, innovating and modernizing the 
Department of Defense (DOD), and tackling the climate crisis.
    The President's Defense Budget Request is a starting point 
for Congress, and must always be viewed in the broader context 
of the national security and fiscal challenges we face. It is 
important that we ensure we have the right strategies and 
resources to keep the American people safe now and in the 
future, with a keen eye toward evolving threats around the 
globe.
    I am pleased to see that this budget request places a 
priority on taking care of the men and women who serve in 
uniform and the civilians who serve alongside them in the 
Department, by including an across-the-board pay raise for 
military and civilian personnel of 2.7 percent. While this pay 
raise is required by law for military personnel, too often DOD 
civilians have been overlooked. This increase in civilian pay 
sends an important message to the workforce and begins to 
reverse years of pay freezes and benefit cuts.
    Notably, the budget request includes $112 billion in 
research, development, test, and evaluation funds, the largest 
ever requested in this area. This includes significant funding 
for modernization areas such as microelectronics, artificial 
intelligence, hypersonic missiles, and 5G. Building our 
strength in these areas will be critical to the modernization 
of our national security.
    But as the recent SolarWinds, Microsoft Exchange, and 
Colonial Pipeline server breaches painfully illustrated, our 
traditional ``perimeter-based'' cyber defenses are simply 
inadequate to deal with sophisticated adversaries that are 
clearly advantaged in the cyber domain. I hope our witnesses 
will expand on what activities DOD is taking to accelerate and 
expand our cybersecurity and what resources are needed to 
accomplish them.
    With regard to the President's transition strategy in 
Afghanistan, the budget request includes $3.3 billion for the 
Afghan Security Forces Fund. This will ensure our continued 
support for the sustainment, infrastructure, equipment, and 
training requirements for Afghan security personnel. I ask that 
our witnesses update the Committee on this transition.
    Last year, this Committee led the way in establishing the 
Pacific Deterrence Initiative, or PDI, to serve as a means for 
improving the capabilities, design, and posture of our joint 
forces in the Indo-Pacific region. The PDI was intended to 
strengthen the presence and resiliency of our armed forces; 
improve logistics and maintenance capabilities; support 
exercises, training, experimentation, and innovation for the 
joint force; and build the defense and security capabilities 
and cooperation of allies and partners. I am concerned that the 
Department's budget request takes a heavily platform-centric 
approach to PDI, and I look forward to working collaboratively 
with the Department of Defense leadership to more appropriately 
align resources in the DOD budget with our intent for PDI.
    Similarly, the budget request proposes an $800 million 
reduction to the European Deterrence Initiative, the EDI. The 
Initiative, which was also established by this Committee, has 
seen budget decreases for the past 3 years. The Department has 
suggested that this is part of ``transitioning to a steady 
state'' in the European Command AOR [area of responsibility]. I 
would ask that our witnesses further explain the reasoning 
behind the reduced EDI budget, and specifically, whether you 
believe this level of investment in infrastructure, force 
posture, and capabilities is sufficient to deter Russian 
aggression.
    With regard to our nuclear strategy, I understand that the 
budget request before us supports important steps toward 
nuclear modernization. Our allies and partners depend on the 
United States nuclear umbrella, and modernization of our 
strategic forces is needed to reassure them of our 
dependability. One thing I think everyone would agree on, and 
often gets lost in the discussion, is the fact that arms 
control and the modernization of our nuclear forces are 
inherently linked together. Even as we modernize, we should 
seek ways to promote strategic stability, like the extension of 
the New START [Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty] agreement and 
follow-on talks to cover new strategic weapons and further 
nuclear stockpiles.
    Lastly, I would note that fiscal year 2022 is the first 
year in 10 years that we will not be constrained by the Budget 
Control Act. Eliminating arbitrary spending caps means that 
every department's budget can, and should, be argued on its 
merits. Taxpayers should not have to pay for programs or 
systems that are wasteful or ineffective, and Congress must not 
shirk its responsibilities to get rid of outdated systems in 
favor of more advanced, effective, new technologies and 
capabilities. Belt-tightening in any department, particularly 
defense, is always a challenge, but it is also an opportunity 
to evaluate what is necessary and what drives innovation. The 
Department has taken the first difficult step in proposing $2.8 
billion worth of divestments and retirements of platforms, and 
I will work with my colleagues to evaluate these proposals and 
make hard but necessary choices.
    Finally, as we progress through this legislative year, the 
Committee will tackle many important policy issues, none bigger 
than how we prevent and prosecute sexual assault and harassment 
in the ranks. Change is coming to the Department and the 
military services. More than anything, cultural change within 
the force is critical to reducing the number of sexual assaults 
and related offenses. The President directed a review earlier 
this year, and I know the Deptartment has been hard at work. I 
look forward to receiving the administration's recommendations 
to incorporate into the Committee's important work on this 
issue.
    Again, I thank the witnesses for their participation today, 
and I look forward to their testimonies.
    Now let me now recognize the ranking member, Senator 
Inhofe.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would 
like to thank all three of our witnesses for dedicating their 
lives to securing our Nation. Secretary Austin told us, along 
with nearly every witness who has come before this Committee, 
China is our pacing threat. It is a global, long-term 
competition, and it is across every arena of the national 
power, but the military balance of power concerns me most.
    In 2018, the National Defense Strategy (NDS) gave us a 
blueprint for pushing back on China. The bipartisan NDS 
Commission said that 3 to 5 percent real growth was needed to 
implement that strategy. It does not look like we are going to 
get that. Since then, the threats have gotten worse. The 
administration gave us a budget that cuts spending when we need 
real growth. They want the military to do more on climate 
change and pandemic response, more mission, but with fewer 
resources.
    We have been asking our military to do too much with too 
little for too long. President Biden's budget cuts would make 
it even harder. It barely treads water while we face all these 
threats. These budget cuts shift aircraft, munitions, and more. 
We have nearly $25 billion of unfunded priorities. These are 
not wish lists. These are risk lists. The budget cuts aircraft 
procurement by 20 percent, backslides on Army readiness, and 
starves Navy shipbuilding. This budget forces our military 
leaders to choose between being ready for today's fight or the 
fight of the future.
    The Chinese military leaders, they are not making that 
choice. On Tuesday, I read in the press about the memo by 
Acting Secretary of the Navy on next year's budget. He says the 
Navy must choose between modernizing ships, subs, and aircraft. 
Does anyone think the Chinese have to make that decision?
    The Chinese defense budget has grown by 450 percent since 
2001. They added $200 billion in the last decade, while we cut 
$400 billion. So we are behind in some of the areas and we are 
falling behind in some of the other areas, and as a result I am 
worried deterrence will fail. Maybe today or 5 years or 10 
years. When it does, the cost will be much higher than any 
investment we could be making today to prevent that. We are not 
making hard choices. We are making bad choices and short-
sighted choices.
    The administration tells us that the Pentagon budget is cut 
because of fiscal realities, but they are spending trillions of 
taxpayer dollars on everything else under the sun. We all 
agree, and even the administration agrees, that a strong 
military improves all other tools of national power. I just 
cannot understand this short-sighted underfunding of our 
troops. We make a sacred compact with our servicemembers. We 
tell them we will take care of them and their families, and we 
do that very well. We also tell them that we will give them the 
tools that are necessary to defend the Nation and come home 
safely, but we are not holding up our end of the bargain with 
this proposed budget. We are failing to give them the resources 
they need to implement that strategy, and, Mr. Chairman, we 
need to do better.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. 
Secretary Austin, please.

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE LLOYD J. AUSTIN III, SECRETARY OF 
                            DEFENSE

    Secretary Austin. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, and distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you 
for the opportunity to testify today about the President's 
budget request for fiscal year 2022.
    I am pleased to appear before you alongside General Milley, 
whose advice and counsel has been crucial to us as we developed 
our budget, and as we continue to defend this nation, which is 
our chief responsibility and my top priority. I am also glad to 
be joined by our Comptroller and our Chief Financial Officer 
(CFO), Mr. Mike McCord.
    Let me say at the outset that I believe that our budget 
requests will help us match resources to strategy, strategy to 
policy, and policy to the will of the American people. Informed 
by the President's Interim National Security Guidance and my 
own message to the force, it funds the right mix of 
capabilities that we need most to defend this nation, now and 
in the future. It invests in hypersonic weapons, artificial 
intelligence, microelectronics, 5G technology, space-based 
systems, shipbuilding, and nuclear modernization, to name a 
few. In fact, this budget asks you to approve nearly $28 
billion to modernize our nuclear triad, and $112 billion for 
research, development, test, and evaluation, the largest 
research and development (R&D) request ever put forth by this 
Department.
    Our request also gives us the flexibility to divest 
ourselves of systems and platform that no longer adequately 
meet our needs, including older ships, aircraft, and 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) platforms 
that demand more maintenance, upkeep, and risk than we can 
afford.
    As you know, we have commissioned a Global Posture Review 
and a new National Defense Strategy which will further inform 
and guide our resource decisions.
    The Department must be ready to meet and keep pace with our 
competitors, and if necessary, to fight and win the next war, 
and not the last one. That is why this budget stays true to our 
focus on matching the pacing challenge that we clearly see from 
the People's Republic of China, to include more than $5 billion 
for the Pacific Defense Initiative. I would just add that our 
China task force has also completed its work, and yesterday I 
issued an internal directive kicking off several Department-
wide efforts that will, among other things, help bolster our 
deterrence against the People's Republic of China (PRC) and 
revitalize our network of regional allies and partners and 
accelerate the development of cutting-edge capabilities and new 
operational concepts.
    However, we recognize that China is not our only challenge. 
Our budget also includes $617 million to counter the damaging 
effects of climate change and additional funds to prepare for 
future challenges like another pandemic. It also helps us 
counter the belligerence that we face from Russia, especially 
in the cyber realm. You will see more than $10 billion here 
devoted to cybersecurity, cyberspace operations, and cyber 
research and development.
    With this emphasis on space, missile defense, and more 
sophisticated sensors, our budget will also help us counter the 
increasing ballistic missile capabilities of nations like North 
Korea and Iran. It funds a troop presence and counterterrorism 
capabilities in the Middle East and South Asia to meet the 
threats posed not only by Iran but also by terrorist networks 
like the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and al Qaeda, 
and in Africa like those posed by Al-Shabaab.
    I am also confident that this budget will help us maintain 
the integrated deterrent capability and global posture 
necessary to back up the hard work of our diplomats and 
demonstrate our resolve in leadership all over the world, 
alongside our allies and partners.
    I know that Afghanistan remains at the top of all of our 
minds, and today I can report that the retrograde remains on 
pace. We have accomplished the mission for which our troops 
were sent to Afghanistan 20 years ago, and I am very proud of 
the men and women who made it possible and of those who gave 
their lives for this mission. I am also deeply grateful to the 
families of our servicemembers who have endured as much, as 
they sent their sons and daughters and husbands and wives into 
battle.
    We will now transition to a new bilateral relationship with 
our Afghan partners, one that continues to help them meet their 
responsibilities to their citizens, but one that will not 
require a United States footprint larger than what is necessary 
to protect our diplomats. That is one reason why we are asking 
to move overseas contingency operations funding inside the 
budget. This will give us and you greater transparency, 
accountability, and predictability in the budgeting process. 
This is the right thing to do, and frankly, it is overdue.
    Now taking care of our people is also the right thing to 
do. Our budget request increases funding to support in- home 
care and support, which has become increasingly important 
during the pandemic. We will also be seeking funds to improve 
military base pay, retention bonuses, and other incentives that 
will help us attract and retain the best talent, and we will be 
working hard to combat challenges that make service in the 
ranks more difficult for the men and women of the Department, 
from getting a better handle on the extent to which we 
experience extremist behavior to combating sexual assault and 
harassment.
    As you know, my first directive as Secretary of Defense, 
issued on my first full day in the office, was to Service 
leadership about sexual assault. I made it clear then, and I 
still believe that we must not be afraid to try new approaches 
and to change our minds so that we can truly and fully address 
the scourge of sexual assault in our force. Clearly what we 
have been doing has not been working, and one assault is too 
many. The numbers of sexual assaults are still too high, and 
the confidence in our system is still too low.
    The Independent Review Commission that we established has 
provided me with an initial set of recommendations, starting 
around the issue of accountability, and this line of effort is 
focused on how these crimes are investigated and prosecuted. I 
shared these recommendations with General Milley and the 
civilian military leaders of the Service branches, and I am 
carefully reviewing the feedback that they provided me.
    There will be additional recommendations coming to us from 
the IRC on prevention, culture, and victim support, and I look 
forward to receiving them as well, and making my full 
recommendation to the President later this month. As I have 
said before, what we are doing is not working, and we need to 
fix it. I want to be sure that whatever changes to the Uniform 
Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) that I recommend to the 
President, and ultimately to this Committee, that they are 
scoped to the problem that we are trying to solve and have a 
clear way forward on implementation and ultimately restore the 
confidence of the force and the system. You have my commitment 
to that and my commitment to working expeditiously as you 
consider legislative proposals. So whatever changes we make, I 
believe we need to focus on effective implementation and 
resourcing, and I know I will need your help.
    Chairman Reed, Members of this Committee, we field the 
greatest military in human history, made up of the finest men 
and women who have ever donned the cloth of their nation. We 
also enjoy a civilian workforce deeply committed to every 
mission that they take on, and for all the things that we know 
we need to do better, no adversary can match the quality of our 
people. I am immensely proud of them and humbled to be of 
service to them, and privileged to be able to serve again with 
them and their families. I know the values they espouse and the 
oath that they took, I know what they are capable of, and I 
believe I have a very good sense of what they need to do their 
jobs, and I can assure you that President's Budget request for 
fiscal year 2022 fulfills that obligation.
    I look forward to answering your questions, and thank you 
for the steadfast support that you continue to provide to the 
Department of Defense, and for all the efforts that you make 
very day to ensure that we remain ready to defend this nation. 
Thank you, sir.
    [The prepared statement of Secretary Austin follows:]

     Prepared Statement by Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, distinguished Members of the 
Committee: thank you for the opportunity to testify in support of the 
President's Budget request for fiscal year 2022.
    On behalf of myself, Deputy Secretary Hicks, the leadership of the 
Department of Defense, and the men and women of our Department and 
their families, let me also thank you for your continued support and 
partnership as we work to address the threats facing the United States 
of America today, and build the force that can address the challenges 
of tomorrow. I also want to thank the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 
Staff, General Mark Milley, who is testifying alongside me and is a 
critical partner in realizing the Department's priorities. I am also 
pleased to be joined by our Comptroller and Chief Financial Officer, 
Mr. Mike McCord.
    The President's $715 billion defense budget request for fiscal year 
2022 provides us with the capabilities we need most and drives 
investment in efforts that will help us advance our three key 
priorities: defending the Nation, taking care of our people, and 
succeeding through teamwork.
    Today, the Department of Defense stands ready to deter conflict in 
any domain and, if necessary, to fight and win against any challenger. 
Since becoming Secretary of Defense, I have met with many of our 
service members and commanders in the field and have seen first-hand 
the dedication of the men and women of our Department. I can assure you 
that we continue to have the best joint fighting force on Earth and a 
civilian workforce fully dedicated to the many critical missions we 
face.
    We must maintain and improve this advantage on land, at sea, in the 
air, and in emerging domains, including space and cyberspace. I am 
confident that the President's budget request helps us do that. The 
request is driven by our recognition that our competitors--especially 
China--continue to advance their capabilities. We must outpace those 
advances to remain a credible deterrent to conflict around the world.
    The President's Budget Request represents my commitment to matching 
resources to strategy, strategy to policies, and policies to the will 
of the American people. This budget also reflects difficult funding 
decisions necessary to ensure that we have the right mix of 
capabilities that we need most. We have proposed cuts to systems and 
capabilities that no longer meet the challenges and requirements of the 
Department, making room for more advanced programs that do. In making 
these decisions, we were guided by the President's Interim National 
Security Strategic Guidance and informed by a set of program reviews 
conducted by the Department early in this Administration.
    We are also undertaking a series of strategic reviews in the 
Department to ensure that our global force posture, and our nuclear and 
missile defense capabilities, are matched with the challenges that we 
face and aligned with the priorities of the President. The Global 
Posture Review will help inform my advice to the Commander-in-Chief 
about how best to allocate our forces around the world to advance our 
national interests, and our nuclear and missile defense reviews will 
consider how we maintain our deterrent and defensive capabilities, 
within and across domains.
    I take very seriously the importance of being good stewards of 
taxpayer dollars and ensuring that we are transparent and honest with 
the American people about how their money is spent. This year, the 
President's budget consolidates the Overseas Contingency Operations 
funding and the base budget, raising transparency of direct war costs 
to a level not seen in several years.
    We are also working to address our audit responsibilities as 
quickly and effectively as possible and move forward on reform to our 
business operations. This is not just about finding and reapplying 
savings to higher priorities, it is about improving organizational 
performance and efficiency. The best advocates for reform are those 
closest to the issues, so we will hold leaders appropriately 
accountable for a management improvement agenda within their respective 
components. Reform also requires a holistic approach--including 
concepts of operation, organizations, personnel, training, and modern 
systems--and must have a seat at the table in our deliberations over 
Department programs and priorities.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget also reflects the President's decision 
to retrograde in Afghanistan, following 20 years of war in that 
theater. We are profoundly grateful to our uniformed service members 
and their families, and to our civilian workforce, who have served and 
sacrificed so much through combat deployments in the defense of our 
Nation since the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001. We 
are now engaged in a deliberate, safe, and orderly withdrawal from 
Afghanistan following the President's decision.
    Moving forward, we must continue to engage in a concerted effort to 
recruit, retain, and develop the finest talent available for the 
uniformed and civilian workforce, providing quality opportunities for 
personal and professional growth, advancement, and leadership to those 
in our charge.
    We owe it to them to build an environment that is safe, welcoming, 
and free of fear, harassment, or violence. That is why I have focused 
some of my earliest efforts on addressing sexual assault and harassment 
in the Department, identifying and addressing extremist behavior in the 
ranks, and ensuring that everyone is given a fair and equitable 
opportunity to serve this country.
    But we cannot do this work alone. Whether it is defending the 
Nation, building a force of the future, growing our talent, or building 
an environment welcoming to all, we rely on teamwork that starts at the 
senior-most levels of the Department, filters down into our workforce, 
and extends across departments to our relationships with interagency 
colleagues, Congress, and our allies and partners.
    When called upon to protect and defend our Nation, the Department 
of Defense will always answer, but diplomacy must be our first national 
security tool of choice. That is why the President's Fiscal Year 2022 
Budget helps fund a Department of Defense able to credibly back up the 
hard work of our diplomats through our deterrent capabilities and our 
force posture.
    As we look outward to our global security interests, we are focused 
on strengthening our relationships with our allies and partners. The 
investments in this budget demonstrate that the United States will 
continue to be a key guarantor of the peace, security, and the rules-
based world order that we have helped foster for the past seven 
decades.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget request ensures that we will remain the 
best-trained and best-equipped military in the world and will have the 
resources to defend the Nation, with the confidence to advance our 
priorities and build and sustain the force we need now and in the years 
ahead.
                          defending the nation
    As the President has noted, the country finds itself at an 
inflection point. The rapid pace of development of capabilities by our 
competitors, and the changing character of conflict that comes with it, 
mean that we can no longer do things the way we always have and sustain 
our military edge.
    China has invested heavily in new technologies, with a stated 
intent to complete the modernization of its forces by 2035 and to field 
a ``world-class military'' by 2049. Russia has shown that it is not 
afraid to target the United States in contested domains like cyberspace 
and still shows a continued interest in regional hegemony. Iran 
continues to advance its nuclear and ballistic missile programs and to 
support destabilizing proxy groups in the Middle East in an effort to 
threaten its regional neighbors. We also face challenges from North 
Korea, a country with the ambition to be capable of striking the United 
States Homeland.
    We will continue to address violent extremist and transnational 
criminal organizations active in several theaters and to face 
unexpected but challenging tests of our resolve like the deadly spread 
of COVID-19. Climate change is a growing challenge, the effects of 
which are driving regional conflicts and instability, even as extreme 
weather caused by a changing planet threatens installations and 
readiness.
    As the character of conflict and competition changes and 
accelerates, our strategic competitors have watched our efforts in 
warzones over the last two decades, seeking to understand not only our 
capabilities but also our will to defend our interests abroad. They are 
watching us and learning from us.
    I have asked the Department to think through our capabilities and 
operational concepts and how we use cyber, space, and nuclear 
capabilities to create a more credible and resilient deterrent against 
our competitors, including China. What I have in mind are ways we can 
better use the capabilities we already have, including by integrating 
across domains, and determining the capabilities we need to address 
potential future conflict.
    This means investing in cutting edge technologies like artificial 
intelligence and quantum computing. It also means ensuring that if an 
adversary attacks one system or domain--in cyberspace or Global 
Positioning System (GPS) satellites, for example--we are able and ready 
to respond through appropriate and separate means in other domains, as 
necessary.
    This is going to take a culture shift in the Department because it 
requires working across Military Services, domains, and regions in a 
way that we have not done before. It also requires deeper integration 
with our allies and partners, ensuring that their capabilities add 
value in deterrence and in conflict.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget request will help us achieve this new 
vision of 21st-century deterrence, and we look forward to your support 
and partnership to help get it right.
Regional Challenges
    In the Indo-Pacific region, we are facing an increasingly assertive 
People's Republic of China (PRC). Beijing's regional ambitions have 
grown, as has its footprint around the world, drawing on significant 
economic influence to encourage and, in some cases, coerce countries 
into a deepening relationship with the PRC.
    But China's ambitions are not only economic. It seeks to use its 
influence to shift rules and norms in the region, erode democratic 
values and human rights, and challenge a free and open Indo-Pacific 
region. The President's Interim National Security Strategic Guidance 
identifies China as the only global competitor capable of combining its 
economic, diplomatic, military, and technological power to mount a 
sustained challenge to the international order.
    As the Department of Defense, our responsibility is to protect and 
defend our interests in the Indo-Pacific region and to assure our 
allies and partners of our commitment to our shared goals. That 
requires keeping pace with the rapid military modernization of the 
People's Liberation Army (PLA) and remaining sighted on the PLA's 
advancements in the South and East China Seas, the Second Island Chain, 
and beyond.
    That is why I established the China Task Force early in my tenure. 
The Task Force's mandate was to conduct a baseline assessment of 
Department policies, programs, and processes on China-related matters 
so that we might better meet the challenge posed by the PRC. The Task 
Force has now completed its work. Based on its recommendations, 
yesterday I issued internal guidance initiating major Department-wide 
efforts to address China as the United States' number one pacing 
challenge.
    Even as we address China's growing military capability, we will 
remain focused on North Korea. Pyongyang continues to develop its 
nuclear and ballistic missile programs, posing an increasing threat to 
regional allies and partners and with ambitions to be able to strike 
the United States homeland. Leading with diplomacy, the United States 
will continue to work to mitigate North Korea's destabilizing and 
provocative behavior and maintain peace and stability on the Korean 
Peninsula.
    In Europe, I am focused on strengthening our relationships with our 
allies and partners, bilaterally and in NATO. The Department will 
ensure that we are postured to deter aggression from Russia or any 
other power that seeks to challenge us in the region. Our alliance with 
NATO remains ironclad, and our allies remain a force multiplier for 
U.S. security around the world. We are encouraged that NATO defense 
spending has increased for the seventh straight year, demonstrating 
their commitment to the strength of the alliance. The fiscal year 2022 
budget supports efforts to grow the capability and capacity of our 
allies.
    Over the past 20 years, much of our effort as a Department has been 
focused on the threat posed by violent extremist organizations 
operating out of parts of the Middle East and South Asia. We remain 
committed to ensuring that no one launches an attack on the U.S. 
homeland, and we will maintain the capability to protect the United 
States and our interests in the region. That includes countering the 
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, al Qaeda, and associated terrorist 
networks that pose ongoing threats to the United States.
    Meanwhile, Iran remains a destabilizing force as it seeks to 
advance its nuclear and ballistic missile programs, threaten freedom of 
navigation, and support proxy terrorist and militia groups. We will 
continue to maintain the capability to deter Iran in the Middle East. 
We will also continue to support our partners in the region, including 
by helping to ensure that Israel has the capability to defend itself 
effectively and maintain its qualitative military edge.
    In Afghanistan, the Department is working to conduct a deliberate, 
orderly, and safe withdrawal, as directed by the President. This is an 
important step in responsibly ending this two-decade-long conflict, and 
it offers us an opportunity to redirect our resources toward strategic 
competition.
    In Africa, the Department is focused on sustaining and improving 
the capabilities of our partners, particularly as we deter and disrupt 
terrorist attacks by al-Shabaab. The group remains an active threat to 
Somalis, their neighbors, our interests in Africa, and those of our 
allies and partners. Our partner-centric strategy has always been at 
the core of our counterterrorism mission, and we will continue to help 
regional partners strengthen their capabilities to counter shared 
threats. This is critical to stability and the opportunity for 
political and economic development in East Africa.
    To the north, the Department remains committed to preserving a free 
and open Arctic region, which is why we undertake annual Arctic 
exercises and operations, including with allies and partners, such as 
ARCTIC EDGE, ICEX, and NORTHERN EDGE. These exercises provide valuable 
experience and offer important lessons learned for conducting multi-
domain operations in the High North.
    In the western hemisphere, our competitors seek to gain a foothold 
through economic and security investment and cooperation. We remain 
focused on building partner capacity and capability to ensure that the 
United States remains the partner of choice and to address 
transnational criminal and terrorist networks active in the region.
    Additionally, the Department supports interagency efforts to 
address the migration crisis. Although other departments and agencies 
appropriately lead efforts to respond to this challenge, DOD supports 
partner nations in addressing the security-related aspects of the root 
causes of migration. This includes providing limited humanitarian and 
medical assistance and participating in engagements to strengthen the 
professionalism of Central American militaries and defense 
institutions.
    Here in the United States, our men and women in uniform have 
supported our critical domestic missions. National Guard personnel 
provide support to our fellow Americans, including at Federal Emergency 
Management Agency (FEMA) mass vaccination sites. National Guard 
personnel have also helped secure our national Capitol at various times 
over the past year, and thousands more have helped secure State 
capitals across the United States at the direction of State officials. 
We also continue to support law enforcement operations on our southern 
border by providing limited enabling capabilities. At the request of 
the Department of Health and Human Services, we are supporting its 
mission to shelter unaccompanied migrant children arriving at the 
border.
COVID-19
    Tackling COVID-19 has been one of my highest and most urgent 
priorities. Since I became Secretary of Defense, the Department has 
received almost 500 FEMA mission assignments and more than 65 requests 
for assistance from other Federal departments and agencies. As of June 
10, more than 4,700 Active Duty service members have deployed to 34 
community vaccination centers in 28 States and territories. 
Additionally, more than 32,000 National Guard personnel have deployed, 
carrying out FEMA mission assignments issued to DOD to assist their 
local communities.
    In total, the Department has administered more than 17 million 
vaccine doses to the American people, with some 4.9 million delivered 
by Active Duty personnel and 12.2 million supported by the National 
Guard. Within the Department, we have executed one of the most complex 
vaccination programs in the world, vaccinating millions of service 
members, beneficiaries, and Department personnel in 42 countries, 
including multiple combat zones. Internally, the Department has 
protected its force and families by administering over 3.6 million 
vaccinations.
    We are also making investments in the Defense Health Agency to 
ensure that we have the resources needed for public-health surveillance 
and force protection. We continue to review and update our force health 
protection policies, and even as vaccinations increase, we remain 
committed to testing, which will expand our genomic sequencing efforts 
so that we can track variants and declining immunity.
    I am tremendously proud of our men and women in uniform who stepped 
up to join our whole-of-nation response. But this will not be the last 
time our Nation and our world will face such a challenge. That is why 
our budget request also funds programs that support biological threat 
reduction, in cooperation with our global partners, emerging 
infectious-disease surveillance, biosafety and biosecurity, and medical 
countermeasure research and development.
Climate Change
    We face a grave and growing climate crisis that is threatening our 
missions, plans, and capabilities. From increasing competition in the 
Arctic to mass migration in Africa and Central America, climate change 
is contributing to instability and driving us to new missions.
    At the same time, increasingly frequent extreme weather events 
degrade force readiness and drain resources. Recent DOD budgets have 
been forced to absorb recovery costs at battered bases such as Naval 
Air Station Pensacola, among others. Our military installations, and 
the mission-critical capabilities they support, must be made resilient 
to climate-induced extreme weather.
    Our mission objectives are aligned with our climate goals. The 
Department is investing in projects and capabilities that mitigate the 
impacts of climate change while improving the resilience of our 
facilities and operations to a range of threats. Our budget request 
also invests in initiatives to reduce operational energy demand to 
enhance capability, improve freedom of action in contested logistical 
environments, and reduce costs. Those investments are good for the 
climate, and they are critical for the mission.
    Additionally, this budget invests in power and energy research and 
development to improve installation and platform energy performance and 
optimize military capability. The Department can help lead by 
leveraging its buying power to deploy technologies such as energy 
storage and microgrids that support the mission while protecting the 
climate.
    The Climate Working Group is coordinating the Department's work 
implementing the President's Executive Order on this crisis and 
building up climate expertise within DOD. It will also track the 
implementation of climate- and energy-related actions and progress 
toward future goals.
Modernization and Innovation
    One of our chief priorities is to drive innovation across the 
Department and modernize our culture, people, systems, and processes to 
meet our future needs. It is critical to nearly everything we do. Even 
as we develop new capabilities, we will always adhere to our 
international humanitarian law obligations in the use of new weapons of 
war, as well as ensure the protection of civilians in all missions.
    This budget supports our efforts to:
      Modernize the nuclear Triad to maintain a strong and 
effective strategic deterrent;
      Make critical investments in advanced technologies such 
as microelectronics, fifth-generation network (5G), and artificial 
intelligence (AI);
      Ensure access to precursors and key inputs by shoring up 
our critical supply chains;
      Accelerate investments in cutting-edge capabilities that 
will define the future fight, such as hypersonics and long-range fires; 
and
      Advance our joint warfighting concepts and commit to 
rapid experimentation and the fielding of emergent capabilities across 
warfighting domains.
    The nuclear Triad remains the bedrock of our national defense and 
strategic deterrence, ensuring that no adversary believes it can employ 
nuclear weapons against the United States or our allies without risking 
devastating consequences.
    But we must modernize our aging capabilities to ensure a credible 
deterrent for the future. As we do, we will review ongoing programs to 
assess their performance, schedule, risks, and projected costs. The 
fiscal year 2022 budget invests in nuclear modernization efforts, and 
the Department will always seek to balance the best capability with the 
most cost-effective solution. We are also launching a nuclear posture 
review to ensure that we have the right capabilities matched with the 
national nuclear strategy.
    Microelectronics enable many of today's capabilities, such as GPS, 
radar, command and control, and communications. Advanced 
microelectronics are key to nearly all of the Department's 
modernization efforts, from AI and hypersonic weapons systems to 5G 
wireless networks. The Department will continue to invest in programs 
to secure U.S. microelectronics interests; reverse the erosion of 
domestic innovation and supply; and establish a strong foundation for 
the next generation of microelectronics technology for DOD 
applications, while also sustaining current systems.
    The U.S. military must also utilize the connectivity provided by 5G 
to operate with the speed, precision, and efficiency required in the 
future. Countries that master advanced communications technologies and 
connectivity will have long-term military advantages; for example, 
tomorrow's warfighters will be able to use local and expeditionary 5G 
networks to move considerable amounts of data to connect distant 
sensors and weapons into a dense, resilient battlefield network.
    Similarly, the power of AI will help us modernize not only our 
warfighting decisions but also our business processes. We must be able 
to ingest, make sense of, and act on the vast amounts of information 
available to our warfighters on the battlefield and our decision-makers 
leading our Department. As I have said, we must understand faster, 
decide faster, and act faster. We must do it all responsibly and at 
scale.
    To support many of these efforts, we recently launched the 
Innovation Steering Group. This entity, chaired by the Under Secretary 
of Defense for Research and Engineering, will advise me on science, 
technology, and technological transition. It will also empower efforts 
to make the changes to incentives, processes, and structures needed to 
truly innovate.
    However, our efforts are not just focused on buying the 
capabilities of the future. We must fundamentally shift the way we 
think and the way we do business. We have not yet made full use of our 
most agile acquisition authorities, and we remain too risk-averse as a 
Department to move decisively beyond the capabilities of today and 
prepare for the future.
    We also remain too reliant on critical minerals produced in or by 
China. To shore up our critical supply chains, we must focus on 
building our domestic production capabilities and growing our defense 
industrial base. That is why I am establishing the Supply Chain Risk 
Management Group, which will complement the work of the Industrial Base 
Council, both of which are chaired by the Under Secretary of Defense 
for Acquisition and Sustainment.
    Tomorrow's conflicts will be contests of speed within and across 
domains of conflict. The President's budget request invests in the 
development and testing of hypersonic strike capabilities, while 
enhancing existing long-range strike weapons to bolster deterrence and 
improve survivability and response timelines. Long-range fires provide 
key offensive capabilities that are cost-effective and improve 
deterrence. By enabling power projection from standoff ranges, the risk 
to critical U.S. assets decreases while the defensive burden imposed on 
the enemy increases.
    The Department is also focused on developing enhanced joint 
warfighting concepts; expanding experimentation and fielding; shifting 
our budget and investment priorities to incentivize innovation; and 
improving acquisition systems while making use of more flexible ones to 
identify and deliver new capabilities at scale. These efforts will help 
build a force that is more resilient and integrated and that ensures 
decision advantage across all domains.
Domain Challenges
    On land, the Army continues to invest in its six modernization 
priorities: long-range precision fires, future vertical lift, next-
generation combat vehicle, air and missile defense, the network, and 
soldier lethality. To sustain the required funding levels for the 
development and procurement of next-generation capabilities, the Army 
reduced resources for several platforms as well as missiles, munitions, 
and conventional ammunition.
    At sea, delivering all-domain naval power that can defend the 
homeland, deter adversaries, control the seas, and project power ashore 
in a conflict requires the Navy to balance current operational demands 
with the need for modernization. Maintaining naval power is critical to 
reassuring allies and signaling
    U.S. resolve to potential adversaries. The budget request proposes 
responsible investments in the Navy fleet. It also continues the 
recapitalization of our strategic ballistic-missile submarine fleet and 
invests in remotely-operated and autonomous systems and the next-
generation attack submarine program.
    We also seek to divest of some platforms that do not contribute 
effectively to power-projection needs. The fiscal year 2022 request 
reflects a strong commitment to continued U.S. naval dominance, 
including a properly sized and well-positioned defense industrial base. 
The health of the defense industrial base continues to be fundamental 
to achieving and sustaining our future fleet. Our shipbuilding and 
supporting vendor base constitute a national security imperative that 
must be steadily supported and grown to maintain a skilled workforce.
    In the air domain, the Air Force will shift away from certain 
platforms in favor of key weapons systems such as the F-35 Joint Strike 
Fighter, the F-15EX Eagle II, and the Next Generation Air Dominance 
aircraft to bolster the Air Force's ability to provide air superiority. 
Meanwhile, we will drive down sustainment costs, the fleet's average 
age, and inherent risk. At all times, we will work to ensure rigorous 
oversight of maintenance costs of the F-35.
    Additionally, Air Force investments in hypersonics, the Long-Range 
Standoff Weapon, the B-21 Raider, and the Ground-Based Strategic 
Deterrent will allow the Department to conduct global strike operations 
with precise conventional and unconventional capabilities, delivered 
from both standoff capabilities and penetrating platforms. Meanwhile, 
the Navy is developing the ``Air Wing of the Future'' to deliver game-
changing lethality and survivability. These efforts include 
transforming Carrier Air Wings with the addition of the F-35C, E-2D, 
and CMV-22B aircraft and rapidly developing the MQ-25 Stingray.
    Unfettered access to space and the freedom to maneuver there 
enhances every aspect of American power and underwrites the design of 
the joint force. Competitors including China and Russia are seeking to 
challenge the United States' advantage in space by developing weapons 
to deny or destroy U.S. space capabilities in conflict. The fiscal year 
2022 budget request strengthens our ability to deliver flexible 
capabilities and strategic options swiftly to outpace emerging threats 
in space.
    Priority areas in this budget include investment in a resilient 
architecture of capabilities for missile warning and missile tracking; 
modernization of all segments of GPS to ensure precision and 
availability; development of cyber-resilient space command-and-control 
capabilities that can integrate with Joint All-Domain Command and 
Control; and investment in a broader base of domestic launch providers 
to further ensure our access to space.
    In cyberspace, the United States is facing increasingly aggressive 
activity, including strategic campaigns by competitors, other nation-
states, and proxies seeking to undermine our national security and 
democracy. The fiscal year 2022 budget invests in cybersecurity and 
cyberspace activities that build on the goals in DOD's Cyber Strategy. 
The Cyber Operations portion of the budget supports U.S. Cyber 
Command's operational element, the Cyber Mission Force, which performs 
cyberspace operations to defend the Nation, support the joint force, 
and secure DOD infrastructure and networks.
    The budget also enhances our cybersecurity by mitigating key cyber 
deficiencies and strengthening our defensive capabilities to counter 
malicious attempts to exploit U.S. technology. Ultimately, we seek to 
improve joint force offensive capabilities to stay ahead of foreign 
threats.
                       taking care of our people
    The dedicated men and women who make up the Department of Defense 
are the greatest strength and asset we have. That is why I have 
prioritized growing our talent, building resilience and readiness in 
the force, and ensuring appropriately accountable leadership as we 
address tough workforce issues.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget request prioritizes improvements to 
recruiting, retention, training, and education, and support for 
military spouses, caregivers, survivors, and dependents. We are also 
intensely focused on ending sexual assault and harassment and 
identifying and addressing extremist behavior in the Department, two of 
my top priorities.
    We have established the Deputy's Workforce Council, a senior-level 
governance forum co-chaired by the Deputy Secretary of Defense and the 
Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which is dedicated to 
addressing the most pressing people management, personnel policy, and 
total force requirements. This includes issues such as diversity, 
equity, and inclusion; military healthcare and childcare; sexual 
assault prevention and response; and more. This forum will ensure that 
workforce issues remain a critical priority for Department leadership, 
including the Secretaries of the Military Departments and our 
commanders, and will help bring the same vision and disciplined 
execution to workforce issues that the Department devotes to weapons 
systems and budgeting.
Growing Our Talent
    We accomplish our mission far better when we look to the full range 
of talent that the United States has to offer. That means drawing on a 
diversity of experiences and backgrounds, which will help drive 
creative thinking and adaptation, innovation, and cultural 
understanding. These will be vital to meet the complex challenges of 
today and the future.
    Longstanding, systemic barriers for historically marginalized and 
underrepresented communities persist today. We must do all we can to 
ensure that we recruit and retain talent from the broadest pool of 
qualified, eligible candidates.
    This spring, we updated the Department's policy on the open service 
of transgender people in the military. We welcome the recruitment, 
retention, and care of all qualified transgender individuals, and we 
look forward to their continued service with honor and dignity. The new 
policy reinforces that principle and also allows for a short 
implementation period for the Military Departments and Services to 
update their policies.
    We also must continually grow and develop our workforce and create 
new avenues for advancement to drive the promotion and retention of our 
outstanding next-generation leaders. That requires thinking about our 
critical skill sets with an eye to the future, in particular by 
recruiting and training individuals in Science, Technology, 
Engineering, Math, and advanced technologies.
Building Resilience and Readiness
    In building a resilient and ready force, we must recognize the key 
role that our military families play in supporting our personnel. The 
health and well-being of our service members and their families are 
inextricably linked to the readiness of our force, and we must do all 
we can to take care of them.
    The effects of COVID-19 have been especially tough for our military 
families, putting a particular strain on those who have lost childcare 
or civilian employment. The fiscal year 2022 budget expands our efforts 
to provide high-quality childcare to our military families, and we 
continue to provide virtual career support through Military OneSource.
    The budget also addresses efforts related to our military 
electronic health records, through which the Department is working to 
implement needed modernization most effectively. We must get military 
healthcare right for our service members and their families.
    We will also remain focused on addressing suicide and mental health 
issues in our joint force by enhancing services and support while 
seeking to reduce the stigma around seeking help.
Ensuring Appropriately Accountable Leadership
    We must provide our workforce with a safe, secure, and welcoming 
environment that empowers them to do their best work and grow 
personally and professionally. At the most basic level, that means 
creating a workplace free of discrimination, hate, and harassment. It 
also means guaranteeing swift and clear accountability to anyone who 
does not live up to the highest standards of the Department.
    Sexual assault and harassment have no place in our country and no 
place in the Department of Defense. For too long, the Department's 
leadership has tried to get a handle on this challenge, but we have not 
made significant progress. One case of sexual assault or harassment is 
too many, and we are losing the confidence of our junior enlisted 
personnel and officers because we have yet to make significant progress 
against this challenge.
    That is why, at the direction of the President, I established a 90-
day Independent Review Commission (IRC) on sexual assault in the 
military. The IRC is responsible for reviewing DOD policies and 
processes related to sexual assault and harassment to determine where 
we can improve as a Department.
    The IRC will soon complete its work on all four lines of effort--
accountability, prevention, climate and culture, and victim care and 
support. I recently received an initial set of recommendations from the 
IRC Chair and provided the Department the opportunity to review those 
recommendations. It is critically important that we get this right, and 
I am grateful for congressional partnership as we seek to do that.
    The vast majority of those who serve in uniform and their civilian 
colleagues do so with great honor and integrity. But extremism in our 
ranks can have an outsized impact on the Department, which will not be 
tolerated. The Department is focused on rooting out extremist behavior, 
and this fight is about our values, the Constitution, and the 
obligations in the Oath of Office we swear to uphold.
    Behavior that defies or degrades our core values erodes unit 
cohesion as well as good order and discipline. It can also damage the 
health, morale, and readiness of the workforce.
    I have moved immediately to meet this problem head-on. On February 
5, I directed that within 60 days, commanding officers and supervisors 
at all levels conduct a one-day extremism stand-down to emphasize the 
importance of the Oath of Office we take, and to give military members 
and civilian employees the opportunity to participate in and continue 
to have this important conversation.
    On April 9, I further directed several immediate actions to combat 
extremism, including reviews of what constitutes extremist activity, 
training for transitioning service members who may be targeted by 
extremist groups, and establishing the Countering Extremism Working 
Group to develop long-term recommendations to ensure all those who 
serve do so with honor and fealty to our values and our democracy. This 
must be a sustained effort, embraced by Department leadership.
                      succeeding through teamwork
    To accomplish anything we set out to do, the Department must 
operate as a unified team. That requires that we build unity among our 
leadership and ensure the right balance of civilian and military inputs 
to our decision-making and Department processes. In the last four 
months, we have made significant progress in rebuilding normal order in 
the Department to safeguard civilian oversight of the military.
    In particular, we have established several bodies aimed at 
supporting the efforts of our Deputy's Management Action Group, the 
Department's principal governance body for management actions, 
including resource management and planning, programming, budgeting, and 
execution.
    We have also established the Deputy's Workforce Council to address 
the Department's people management, personnel policy, and total force 
requirements, and task forces and working groups on COVID-19, China, 
climate change, and extremism.
    Protecting the United States requires teamwork at every level: 
state, local, tribal, territorial, and federal. It requires cooperation 
with all who have a stake in our national security, including Congress, 
private industry, civil society, and the American people.
    Our work to combat COVID-19 is a prime example of our commitment to 
working with our fellow Americans. Across the Executive Branch, DOD has 
worked closely with the Department of Homeland Security, including 
FEMA, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the State 
Department in efforts to end the pandemic. We are also investing in the 
defense industrial base to produce more personal protective equipment 
and test kits. Across the Nation, we continue to work closely with the 
Department of Health and Human Services and State, local, tribal and 
territorial authorities to bring life-saving vaccines to the American 
people. At all times, our support to the Nation is reliant on our 
partnership with Congress, which plays an integral role in providing 
the authorities, appropriations, and leadership necessary to have the 
most effective Department of Defense.
    As part of our efforts to build teamwork into all we do, and in 
line with the President's intent, we are also leading with diplomacy, 
our first national security tool of choice. I am committed to ensuring 
that the Department of Defense continues to field a credible force able 
to back up the hard work of our diplomats around the world. We are 
working in lock-step with the State Department and other departments 
and agencies, and I took my first trip as Secretary of Defense with 
Secretary Blinken to reassure our allies and partners in the Indo-
Pacific region that this Administration is committed to our 
relationships there. Secretary Blinken and I also traveled to Europe to 
assure our allies and partners of our commitment to the region.
    When I traveled to NATO Headquarters earlier this spring, I shared 
a key message: we must consult together, decide together, and act 
together. Global crises, such as the pandemic, climate change, and 
economic downturns, present significant dangers that span our borders. 
In many countries, internal strife, brought on by corruption, 
inequality and polarization, and transnational threats, such as violent 
extremism and criminal organizations, threaten stability around the 
alliance's rim. In Afghanistan, we went in together and we will leave 
together, after a substantial consultative effort. Meanwhile, 
aggressive and coercive behaviors from emboldened strategic competitors 
such as China and Russia reinforce the importance of collective 
security.
                               conclusion
    The challenges we face are many, but the Department stands ready to 
defend the United States against any enemy, foreign or domestic, just 
as we always have. We remain resolute in our commitment to protect the 
Nation and will not shy away from any challenge.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget will help us fulfill that 
responsibility, and we are grateful for your support in working with us 
as we build the Department of the future. We need your help.
    We also remain grateful for the tremendous trust that the United 
States places in our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, and 
DOD civilian employees, all of whom will continue to defend our 
democracy, our people, and our way of life. Thanks to them, we will 
always operate from a position of strength. Thank you.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. Before I 
recognize General Milley, since a quorum is present I would ask 
the Committee to consider seven nominations, the nominations of 
the Honorable Frank Kendall III to be Secretary of the Air 
Force; the Honorable Heidi Shyu to be Under Secretary of 
Defense for Research and Engineering; Ms. Susanna V. Blume to 
be the Director of Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation, 
Department of Defense; Ms. Jill M. Hruby to be Under Secretary 
of Energy for Nuclear Security and Administrator, National 
Nuclear Security Administration; Mr. Frank A. Rose to be 
Principal Deputy Administrator, National Nuclear Security 
Administration; Ms. Deborah G. Rosenblum to be Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological 
Defense Programs; and Mr. Christopher P. Maier to be Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity 
Conflict.
    Is there a motion to favorably report these seven 
nominations to the Senate?
    Senator Inhofe. So moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    Senator Kaine. Second.
    Chairman Reed. All in favor?
    [Chorus of ayes.]
    Chairman Reed. The motion carries. Thank you very much.
    General Milley, your comments, please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL MARK A. MILLEY, USA, CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT 
                        CHIEFS OF STAFF

    General Milley. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify before you today, and it remains my 
distinct honor and privilege to represent the soldiers, 
sailors, airmen, marines, and guardians of the United States 
Joint Force, the most capable military in the world. Our troops 
are the best led, best equipped, and best trained force 
anywhere. I want to personally thank Secretary Austin for his 
steady leadership and wise guidance.
    Your Joint Force is standing watch, protecting American 
interests in all domains around the globe. Alongside our allies 
and partners, American troops are currently training or 
conducting combat operations or other operations in 165 
countries to keep America safe. We are conducting major 
exercises as we speak in Europe; we are monitoring the 
demilitarized zone (DMZ) in Korea; we are conducting freedom of 
navigation operations in the strategic waterways of the global 
commons; we are sustaining operations in space, in cyberspace; 
we are supporting our allies and partners in Africa, Asia, and 
Europe; and we are patrolling the skies of the Middle East, and 
as we speak our Joint Force is conducting a safe, responsible, 
and deliberate strategic retrograde from Afghanistan in good 
order, while ensuring continued support to the Afghan National 
Security Forces.
    The purpose of the United States military is simple. It is 
to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of 
America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and with 
that comes two key tasks. Task one is to fight and win 
America's wars, if necessary, and key task two is to prepare to 
fight and win America's wars.
    The United States military is a critical component of 
national power, which in concert with our diplomatic efforts, 
economic engine, and overriding hope of the American message 
that will deter adversaries and preserve the peace. We are 
prepared to fight, however, and fight and win, if those who 
seek to attack the United States and our allies and partners 
are undeterred. But force must always be a last resort when 
other means of achieving our ends have been exhausted.
    We are in an era of increased strategic competition. The 
current strategic landscape is witnessing rapid change, and the 
potential for increased threat to the peace and stability of 
various regions, and indeed, for the world. States and non-
state actors are rapidly transforming technologically, and we 
are bearing witness to a fundamental change in the character of 
war. In particular, China is increasing its military capability 
at a very serious and sustained rate, and we must ensure that 
we retain our competitive and technological edge against this 
pacing threat, as Secretary Austin has directed.
    Readiness, modernization, and combat power are key to deter 
war and maintain the peace, and equally important are the 
combat multipliers of teamwork, cohesion, and well-led units. 
We must resolve the issue of sexual assault and confront the 
issue of extremism. Both are corrosive to the very essence of 
what it means to be in the military, and they destroy cohesion, 
they destroy teamwork, and they reduce combat power.
    Additionally, we must continue to invest in leader 
development and talent management required for the future 
operating environment. Finally, we must continue to nurture and 
sustain a key strategic source of our strength, which is our 
network of many close allies and partners around the world.
    The Joint Force appreciates the work that our elected 
representatives do to ensure that we have the resources needed 
to train, equip, and man the force in order to be ready. The 
days of the Budget Control Act, as noted, are over, and 
repeated, continuing resolutions which eroded readiness are 
hopefully behind us for good.
    The Joint Force will deliver modernization with this budget 
of our armed forces and security to the people of the United 
States at the fiscal year 2022 budget request of $715 billion. 
While it is a modest increase from the enacted fiscal year 2021 
budget, it is a significant commitment of treasure that the 
American people have entrusted to us, and we will work 
diligently to ensure it is spent prudently and in the best 
interest of the Nation.
    The Fiscal Year 2022 Presidential Budget is a result of 
very hard choices, in a year in which the Nation has suffered 
economic hardship due to COVID-19 pandemic. In alignment with 
the Interim National Security Strategic Guidance, this budget 
delivers a ready, agile, and capable Joint Force that will 
compete, deter, and win, across all domains, and which is 
postured for continue dominance in the future.
    This budget prioritizes nuclear modernization, long-range 
fires, hypersonic technology, artificial intelligence, 
shipbuilding, microelectronics, space, cyber, and 5G. These 
investments, in concert with our recently developed joint 
warfighting concept will pave the way for a Joint Force of the 
future. The President's Budget 2022 budget request increases 
the readiness of the force by developing the Joint Force of the 
future, ensuring our people are our number one priority, and 
positioning us to achieve through teamwork.
    Many enemies, historically, have grossly underestimated the 
United States and our people. They have underestimated our 
national resolve. They have underestimated our capability, our 
skill, and our combat power, and each, in the past, has made a 
fatal choice, which ended in their enrollment in the dustbin of 
history. The same will be true of any enemy that makes that 
mistake today or tomorrow. We are ready now and will remain so 
in the future, and we are also facing tough strategic choices, 
and we are being increasingly challenged with very capable, 
potential adversaries clearly acting in opposition to our 
interests.
    Consistent, predictable budgets, informed by the will of 
the people, are critical to our Nation's defense, and the 
passage of this budget in a timely way is important. The Fiscal 
Year 2022 Presidential Budget strikes an appropriate balance 
between preserving present readiness and future modernization. 
It is a down payment on investments for the future, with a bias 
toward the future operating environment.
    It is now that we must set ourselves on a path to modernize 
the Joint Force, and this budget contributes to doing that. Our 
job, as your Joint Force, our contract with the American 
people, is that we, the United States military, will be able to 
fight and win when called upon. We will support and defend this 
Constitution always and forever, and I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Milley follows:]

           Prepared Statement by General Mark A. Milley, USA
                              introduction
    It remains my distinct honor and privilege to represent the 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and guardians of the United States 
Joint Forces-The most capable military in the world. Our troops are the 
best led, best equipped, and best trained force anywhere. Alongside our 
allies and partners, American soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and 
guardians are currently standing watch in 165 countries and conducting 
operations that keep Americans safe.
    The United States Military is a critical component of national 
power which in concert with our diplomatic efforts, economic engine and 
overriding hope of the American message deters our adversaries and 
preserves peace. We are prepared to fight and win if those who seek to 
attack the United States and our allies and partners are undeterred.
    The Joint Force appreciates the work that our elected 
representatives do to ensure that we have the resources needed to 
train, equip, and man the force in order to be ready. The days of the 
Budget Control Act of 2011 and repeated continuing resolutions which 
eroded readiness are hopefully behind us for good.
    The Joint Force will deliver modernization of our armed forces and 
security to the people of the United States at the fiscal year 2022 
budget request of $715 billion. While it is a modest increase from the 
enacted fiscal year 2021 budget, it is a significant commitment of 
treasure that the people of the United States have entrusted to us and 
we will work diligently to ensure it is spent prudently in the best 
interest of the Nation. This fiscal year 2022 budget is the result of 
hard choices in a year in which the Nation has suffered economic 
hardship due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In alignment with the Interim 
National Security Strategic Guidance (INSSG) this budget delivers a 
ready, agile, and capable Joint Force that will compete, deter and win 
across all domains and which is postured for continued dominance in the 
future.
    Consistent predictable budgets informed by the will of the American 
people are critical to our Nation's defense. The passage of timely 
budgets enables planning and prioritization.
                         strategic environment
    The current strategic landscape is witnessing rapid change and 
potential for increased threat to the peace and stability of various 
regions and for the world.
    China: is our #1 geostrategic security challenge. History is not 
deterministic, war with China is not inevitable. China is clearly an 
increasingly capable strategic competitor and we need to keep our 
relationship at competition, not conflict. This is best done through 
integrated deterrence where the United States remains militarily strong 
relative to China and we retain military overmatch in all the various 
domains of war. If we remain militarily superior to our adversary, then 
conflict is less likely.
    China is challenging the peaceful status quo in the Pacific, and is 
intent on revising the global international order by midcentury. China 
is conducting large-scale exercises in the region with an emphasis on 
amphibious landing, joint fires, and maritime strike scenarios. These 
actions threaten our allies and partners' autonomy, jeopardize freedom 
of navigation, overflight and other lawful uses of the sea, and 
compromise regional peace and stability. In short, China has and 
continues to develop significant nuclear, space, cyber, land, air, and 
maritime military capabilities.
    Russia: retains a large nuclear capability to deter and threaten 
the United States and our allies and partners. Russia has also 
demonstrated the capability and will to conduct complex malicious cyber 
activities targeting American protected digital infrastructure, both 
military and commercial. Increasingly Russia uses irregular warfare and 
mercenary contract support, along with regular troops, to conduct 
aggressive operations, the most notable being illegal seizure of 
Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula and the ongoing conflict in eastern 
Ukraine. Its actions in Libya as well as Syria and elsewhere 
demonstrate Moscow's relative flexibility, resourcefulness, and 
opportunism.
    North Korea: continues to enhance its ballistic missile capability 
and possesses the technical capacity to present a real danger to the US 
homeland as well as our allies and partners across the Indo-Pacific. 
They show no signs of moderation in their focus on military capability 
at the expense of their most vulnerable citizens and peace of the 
Korean Peninsula.
    Iran: The current irregular warfare conflict between Iran and its 
neighbors threatens to push the Middle East into broader regional 
instability. Through its funding of terrorist activities, and a proxy 
army inside the borders of its neighbors, and through its ballistic 
missile programs, Iran seeks to revise the regional order and balance 
of power in Iran's favor.
    Violent extremist organizations such as al Qaeda, ISIS, Al Shabaab, 
and others continue to export their terror, destruction, and 
destabilization. Until and unless the root causes of instability that 
give rise to these types of groups are resolved, we will continue to 
deal with their attacks to undermine legitimate governments worldwide. 
The root causes can only be effectively addressed by including 
governments of the region and we can best influence outcomes with 
diplomatic, economic, information and stability efforts along with 
train, advise, assist and intelligence sharing. Through coalition 
efforts and in concert with the local governments affected by these 
groups, we will continue to ensure they do not possess the capacity and 
capability to exert their will.
    As we move into the middle of the twenty first century, it is 
imperative that we maintain our technological advantage over our 
competitors. As the diffusion of military technology permeates the 
globe, it will become increasingly difficult to maintain the advantage 
that we've enjoyed for last seven decades.
    This year's budget will adequately fund our department priorities, 
with bias on the future while ensuring we continue to deter the 
adversaries of today. The character of warfare is changing in a 
fundamental way. How we fight, the weapons, doctrine, organizations and 
leader development are all undergoing a transformation not seen in 
scale and scope since the decades between World War I and World War II. 
The current rapid and radical change in technology along with its 
diffusive nature will provide decisive advantage to those nation states 
that best master the convergence and capability in precisions 
munitions, all domain sensors, all domain command and control, 
robotics, hypersonics and artificial intelligence. Our collective 
success or failure to adapt the United States military to this future 
as a Nation is an increasingly challenging security environment.
    Climate change presents a growing threat to U.S. national security 
interests and defense objectives. The adverse impacts of climate change 
are already being felt across the Joint Force in terms of increased 
operational demands, adverse impacts on our installations and new 
requirements for equipment and formations able to operate in a world 
defined by climate change and as a contributing factor to regional 
instability.
    As we enter the third quarter of this fiscal year, it is imperative 
that we finish the fight against COVID-19. The Joint Force has 
contributed planning and logistics expertise during all phases of the 
pandemic response and continues to assist with vaccination efforts. We 
will continue to be able to provide equipment, personnel, and vaccine 
deployment and development assistance when called upon to assist. We 
all should be very proud of the conduct of our Joint Force and our 
ability to continue to deploy and defend the interests of the United 
States during this unprecedented global event as the pandemic has only 
modestly impacted the Joint Force's readiness.
    Our alliances and partnerships are key to maintaining the 
international rules-based order that offer the best opportunities for 
peace and prosperity for America and the globe. This budget allows us 
to build our partners and allies capabilities, foster interoperability, 
and strengthen relationships. Doing so allows us, our allies, and 
partners to counter the coercion of our strategic competitors, the 
malign activity of regional threats, and meet the varied security 
challenges state and non-state actors, terrorism, climate change, and 
pandemics or any other threat that may emerge. We are stronger when we 
operate closely with our allies and partners.
                      readiness and modernization
    The Joint Force is in a position where modernization is an 
imperative. We must avoid the tyranny of the now at the expense of our 
future. The United States as a nation has always had the advantage and 
time to conduct a long build up prior to the beginning of hostilities. 
The operating environment of the future will likely not afford us the 
luxury of time to project force so having modernized forces in 
sufficient size and readiness will be the key to sustaining deterrence 
and maintaining the peace and if deterrence fails then fight and win.
    The Interim National Security Strategic Guidance, National Defense 
Strategy, and National Military Strategy discuss the re-emergence of 
strategic competition and directs the Joint Force to develop the 
capabilities and capacity to counter near-peer threats. Strategic 
adversaries are accelerating military modernization; to maintain 
military advantage, the Joint Force must adapt to the future operating 
environment. It is imperative that we maintain US technological 
advantage over our adversaries and improve the concepts and doctrine 
which organize our conduct of warfare. In the fall of 2019, the 
Secretary of Defense tasked the Joint Staff to develop a threat-
informed Joint Warfighting Concept (JWC) to address strategic conflict. 
The Joint Warfighting Concept will guide and revitalize how we 
organize, train, and equip the Joint Force. It will constantly evolve 
to help us shape our strategic environment and future operations. The 
JWC is a multi-year effort to develop a comprehensive approach for 
joint operations against future threats and provide a guide for future 
force design and development. Supporting concepts to the JWC describe 
key warfighting functions. They are fires, logistics, C2, and 
information advantage. The Joint All Domain Command and Control (JADC2) 
framework enables the holistic development and realization of the JWC 
and Supporting Concepts. JADC2 today is beginning to deliver the 
capability to sense, and act at speeds greater than our adversaries. 
JADC2 uses data, artificial intelligence, machine learning and 
predictive analytics to create decisive information advantage at all 
echelons in the Joint Force.
    Utilizing cloud-based networks and agile software development, our 
modular open sourced systems will deliver the necessary strategic 
operational advantage required within both competition and conflict. 
Our JADC2 architecture is increasingly providing the attributes and 
interfaces to transition to a data-centric force able to operate at 
scale within multiple security levels and across all-domains and the 
electro-magnetic spectrum.
    We will also revise our leader development Joint Professional 
Military Education to support the JWC. Specifically, we are increasing 
the amount of JPME devoted to the study of the changing character of 
war and both China and Russia as potential adversaries.
    In addition to adapting our concepts, doctrine, training, and 
military education, we must continue to invest in capabilities that 
close gaps or sustain our advantage. Key investments in this budget are 
nuclear modernization, long range fires, hypersonic technology, 
shipbuilding, space and cyber.
    Nuclear modernization: The nuclear triad has been the bedrock of 
our strategic deterrent for decades. Together, the three legs of the 
Triad allow us to hedge against geopolitical, technological, 
operational and programmatic risks. Our Cold War era systems have been 
extended beyond their original service lives and we must recapitalize 
our nuclear enterprise. Modernization of our nuclear forces, weapons 
complex, and requisite nuclear command, control, and communications 
(NC3) capabilities are a high priority. The Department projects the 
cost of modernization will peak at 7 percent of the DOD budget in 2029 
before decreasing again. If these projections bear out, compared to 
past modernization efforts, the cost would be significantly less as a 
proportion of the overall DOD budget--the nuclear recapitalization in 
the 1980s cost 10.6 percent at its peak and 17 percent in the early-
1960s.
    Long range fires: provide key offensive capabilities that are both 
cost-effective and cost-imposing means of improving deterrence. By 
enabling power projection from standoff ranges, the risk to critical 
U.S. assets decreases while the defensive burden imposed upon the enemy 
increases. China has thousands of ground-launched theater-range 
missiles in its arsenal that would be difficult for the United States 
to counter given its current inventories. Investments in long range 
missiles are a cost-effective strategy that improves our ability to 
compete with China. Recent budget requests have enhanced the lethality 
and resilience of the Joint Force by developing and expanding the long-
range fires portfolio. President's Budget 2022 funding is essential to 
mitigate offensive fires capacity shortcomings, enhance operational 
flexibility in multiple domains, and accelerate the transition of 
hypersonic weapons from development to procurement and fielding. 
President's Budget 2022 balances long-range fires investments between 
both proven solutions and higher risk/high-payoff systems, such as 
hypersonic fires.
    Hypersonic technology: Hypersonics are a suite of capabilities that 
provide transformational warfighting capability to our Joint Force. Our 
competitors are investing in this capability and in order to provide 
our Joint Force with the best possible technology we will need to 
invest to defend the Nation, our allies and partners.
    Legacy platform divestment: Continuing to purchase and maintain 
legacy equipment takes needed defense dollars away from the acquisition 
of systems that are needed for modernization. We need to divest select 
legacy platform to ensure that every defense dollar spent on programs 
and equipment that will be relevant in the next fight.
    Shipbuilding: The industrial base continues to be the fundamental 
enabler for achieving and sustaining the Navy's future fleet. Our 
shipbuilding and supporting vendor base are a national security 
capability that needs support to grow and maintain a skilled workforce. 
The Fiscal Year 2022 President's Budget reflects the Administration's 
strong commitment to continued American naval dominance, including a 
properly sized and well-positioned industrial base to meet the demands 
of our current and future defense needs. Commitment to the steady 
acquisition profiles underlying our budget is key to ensure the 
industrial base achieves the capability and capacity required to build 
and maintain the Navy's future fleet. The conclusions from past force 
structure analyses have been fully considered and simple ship count is 
an incomplete metric, as it fails to fully capture the capability, 
payload capacity, and employment of ship classes in the fleet. This 
budget specifically procures warships and submarines with credible 
combat power to deter China while continuing remotely operated ship 
development and investing in the industrial base to support fleet 
modernization and on time delivery of the Columbia class submarine.
    Space: Space is essential to our way of life; space capabilities 
are essential to our economy, quality of life, our exploration 
initiatives, and our ability to wage war. Competitors are testing and 
fielding space weapons that threaten not just our National interests 
and advancements in space, but those of all nations that rely upon 
space. Russia has recently tested both a ground-based anti-satellite 
missile and an on-orbit anti-satellite weapon prototype which threatens 
our space capabilities. In 2007, China destroyed a satellite to 
demonstrate their anti-satellite capabilities and the resulting debris 
will remain in orbit, threatening commercial, civil, and national 
security satellites for more than a century. Left unsecured, our 
capabilities in space may become strategic vulnerabilities.
    Cyber: Adversaries continue to use operations in the cyber domain 
as a means to compete with the U.S. and pursue a position of advantage 
in crisis and conflict. Malign cyberspace actors increasingly exploit 
supply chain vulnerabilities, such as commercial software, to gain 
network access and conduct cyber operations against U.S. citizens, 
organizations, and institutions. The low cost/barrier to entry and 
anonymity that cyberspace provides make this domain a priority focus 
for adversaries to asymmetrically compete without escalation. 
Therefore, we must increase our ability to compete in cyberspace and 
ensure all elements of informational power are integrated into 
operations, activities, and efforts to deter our adversaries and 
protect the U.S. Homeland. This requires DOD to invest in partners and 
technology, building and maturing cyber operations and readiness, 
reducing risk to weapon systems and critical infrastructure, 
strengthening cybersecurity, and improving network resiliency.
                         advanced capabilities
    The changing character of war necessitates that we continue to 
modernize and innovate. We must be able to have clear linkage from 
sensors to shooters in an advanced information environment with the 
technology present to protect our warfighters, critical assets, and 
homeland. Investment in ensuring reliable supplies of microelectronics, 
advanced network technology such as 5G, and artificial intelligence 
will ensure that we maintain our technological edge over our 
adversaries. The current globally distributed supply chains present 
vulnerabilities to the Joint Forces' ability to acquire necessary parts 
and technology in the event of a crisis that either prevents the 
manufacture, or shipping of material to our units in the field.
    Advanced microelectronics are the key element in all of the 
Department's modernization efforts, from Artificial Intelligence and 
Hypersonic Weapon Systems to Fifth Generation Wireless Networks. High-
speed connectivity will transform the way militaries operate. 
Tomorrow's warfighters will use local and expeditionary 5G networks to 
move massive amounts of data to connect distant sensors and weapons 
into a dense, resilient battlefield network. Communication networks are 
fundamental to how the United States trains, plans, and engages 
adversaries. The U.S. military must utilize the connectivity provided 
by 5G to operate with the speed, precision, and efficiency necessary to 
remain effective and survivable in the future.
    U.S. Army: The Army faces an inflection point that requires 
innovation, creativity, and entrepreneurship in the application of 
combat power. The battlefield is increasingly faster, more lethal, and 
more distributed. Overmatch will belong to the side that can make 
better decisions faster. To meet emerging challenges, the Army is 
transforming to provide the Joint Force with the speed, range, and 
convergence of cutting edge technologies that will generate the 
decision dominance and overmatch required to win the next fight. The 
Army's materiel modernization transformation is based on the six 
modernization priorities announced in 2018: Long Range Precision Fires, 
Next Generation Combat Vehicle, Future Vertical Lift, the Army Network, 
Air and Missile Defense, and Soldier Lethality. By 2035, the Army will 
realize its vision of a multi-domain force. Decisive outcomes in war 
are ultimately achieved on land where people live and maintaining a 
capable land force in the United States Army is key to our overall 
deterrence capability and national security.
    U.S. Navy: America is a maritime nation. Our security and 
prosperity are inextricably linked to the seas. To sustain America's 
advantage at sea, we must deliver combat-ready forces to deter 
aggression and keep the seas free and open. Deploying battle-ready 
ships, submarines, and squadrons around the world--from the South China 
Sea to the Arctic--deters aggression, reaffirms our commitment to 
allies and partners, and keeps the seas open and free. Readiness 
underpins our forward-engaged posture and touches all elements of the 
Navy, from our shipyards and aviation depots to the steaming and flying 
hours our Sailors use to hone their skills. This budget prioritizes a 
fleet that is ready for combat over a larger fleet that is not ready to 
fight.
    U.S. Marine Corps: The Marine Corps is optimizing the force for 
competition in the vast littoral regions of the globe by modernizing 
the force for Strategic Competition. As codified in law, Marines serve 
in cooperation with the Navy in the conduct of naval campaigns. As 
international relations are defined more by periods of cooperation and 
competition, the Marine Corps will focus on the competition phase 
before conflict by generating a persistent reconnaissance force for the 
Joint Force that has organic long-range, precision fires with mobility. 
Thus far, they have fully invested in their modernization by divesting 
of capabilities and capacities that no longer offer the best value for 
a maritime force in the contact and blunt layer.
    U.S. Air Force: Moving forward, the Air Force will prioritize its 
resources to transform our equipment, support our airmen, and bolster 
our core missions. To deter and defeat today's competitors and 
tomorrow's adversaries, this budget continues to re-capitalize our Air 
Force. The Air Force is retiring legacy platforms with a bias toward 
the future, so that we can focus on aircraft that can penetrate high 
end defenses. A cutting edge Air Force that is without peer is 
fundamental to successful land or sea operations and is the key element 
to maintaining deterrence and sustaining the force.
    U.S. Space Force: The Space Force investments accelerate 
modernization of the entire Joint Force. Space Force capabilities 
underwrite, enhance, and enable Joint Force operations. The Space Force 
protects U.S capabilities and freedom of operation outpacing actions of 
our competitors.
    Ongoing actions to fully resource the United States Space Force 
(USSF) including transfer of the Space Development Agency (SDA) and 
unit transfers from the Army and Navy, will enhance the USSF's ability 
to organize, train, equip and present forces who can compete, deter and 
if necessary prevail should war initiate in, or extend to space.
                   people first / people and families
    People are our most important resource in the Joint Force. We must 
ensure that we are doing all that we can do to take care of and guard 
our most critical resource. Taking care of people is a critical 
readiness issue, it decisively impacts unit cohesion, recruitment, 
retention, and confidence in leadership. The Joint Force has been 
working to rid our military from the scourge of sexual assault and 
sexual harassment for years. We must do more to finally implement real 
and lasting change. Sexual assault undermines our military values and 
undercuts our ability to field a cohesive fighting force. Sexual 
assault and harassment prevention, response and accountability are 
leadership issues. We will hold DOD leaders at every level responsible 
for building a safe environment for our people, guaranteeing anyone who 
does not act within the highest standards of the Joint Force is held 
accountable.
    We will not tolerate actions that go against the fundamental 
principles of the oath we share, including actions associated with 
extremist ideologies. Extremism also destroys readiness because it 
destroys cohesion. Extremism presents a complex and unique challenge to 
DOD. We must meet this head-on, and place the highest importance on 
treating all personnel with dignity and respect, in an environment free 
from discrimination, harassment, and maltreatment. We must be ever 
vigilant in our efforts to identify and counter extremist behavior 
within our ranks.
    We continuously earn the trust of our service members and their 
families by ensuring that they continue to receive excellent quality of 
life benefits. Our premier all-volunteer force will continue to be the 
greatest in history only if we continuously affirm how much we value 
the service that our military and civilian members provide their 
country.
    The Joint Force is committed to growing our talent and ensuring 
that all who meet the requirements to serve are able to serve. The 
Joint Force competes for the talent of America's youth along with every 
other business, and organization who seeks our Nation's best and 
brightest. Service to Nation is a worthwhile cause and we welcome all 
who are eligible to serve. Despite our inclusive approach only 29 
percent of today's youth are eligible for military Service without a 
waiver. The Joint Force's objective is to field the most lethal and 
combat effective fighting force in the world. We will continue to 
support the accessions of all qualified people to all jobs and 
positions within the Joint Force.
    The Nation's largest employer-sponsored child care program supports 
our Joint Force, with more than 27,000 staff members providing daily 
care for more than 160,000 children aged birth to 12 years in 
approximately 700 nationally-accredited child care centers. Taking care 
of families is a holistic approach that ensures that our troops are 
ready to fight because they know their families are well cared for.
    Housing our forces is critical to ensure that our junior and most 
vulnerable families are able to live in a healthy environment wherever 
the Nation calls them to serve. Families don't raise their hand and 
join the service. We as a nation owe it to our troops to ensure they 
have what they need. The Military Housing Privatization Initiative 
(MHPI) reform efforts are actions that will improve the tenant 
experience, rebuilt tenant trust, and maintain MHPI housing project 
financial viability. The MHPI Tenant Bill of Rights (BOR), issued in 
February 2020, is a visible and important commitment in DOD's larger 
effort to regain resident trust.
                       achieving through teamwork
    We in the Joint Force are a team of teams. Sworn to support and 
defend the constitution, teamwork is our watchword. There is no 
daylight between the services when it comes to ensuring the security of 
the American people. The Joint Force is a collective effort, and no 
services ever fights alone.
    Joint exercises with all services, allies and partners 
participating are a key component to our warfighting readiness. 
Ensuring that exercises such as Defender Pacific and Defender Europe 
continue and that we fastidiously increase the number of participants 
and complexity in these exercises will guarantee the best preparation 
for war and a mechanism to demonstrate our commitment and resolve to 
those who wish to question our friends and our capabilities.
                               conclusion
    The United States Joint Force is a flexible and adaptable force 
ready to deter, fight, and win our Nation's wars. The President's 
Budget 2022 budget request increases the readiness of the force by 
developing the Joint Force of the future, ensuring people are our 
number one priority, and positioning us to achieve through teamwork. 
America's network of allies and partners is a strategic source of 
strength. Many enemies have grossly underestimated the United States 
and the American people in the past. They've underestimated our 
national resolve. They've underestimated our capability, our skill and 
our combat power, and each made a fatal choice which ended with their 
enrollment in the dustbin of history. The same will be true of any 
enemy that makes that mistake today or tomorrow. We are ready now, and 
will remain so in the future, we are also facing tough strategic 
choices, and we are being increasingly challenged with very capable 
potential adversaries, clearly acting in opposition of our interests. 
Our job as your Joint Force, our contract with the American people is 
that we, the United States military will always be ready to deter our 
enemies and if deterrence fails then to fight and win.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Milley. I 
understand Mr. McCord does not have a statement. Is that 
correct? Thank you, Mr. McCord.
    Secretary Austin, we are in the process of withdrawing our 
combat forces, save for embassy protection personnel. It is 
going rapidly. The projections, I think I have read, are 
perhaps July we could have all forces out. I think also, too, 
the Taliban are aware that if they would encroach upon our 
forces that would not only delay our departure but re-engage us 
in Active operations.
    So the questions, I think, now are after the departure of 
our forces, do you believe you have the appropriate authorities 
and funding to continue to support the Afghan National Security 
Forces and to conduct counterterrorism operations after the 
transition?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you, Chairman. As you know, what we 
have said is that we intend to maintain a good and productive 
relationship with the Afghans post our retrograde, and that 
entails making sure that, with your support, we can continue to 
provide funding for their military and support for the 
government as well. I think that support is critical in 
ensuring that the government retains the ability to function 
and that their military remains intact. So, again, we will need 
your support to be able to do that.
    In terms of authorities, I do think that we have the 
authorities that we need to be able to focus on a discrete set 
of threats, and that threat is those threats that could conduct 
operations against the United States of America that would 
emanate from that space in Afghanistan. So our counter 
terrorism (CT) threat is focused on al Qaeda, and we are 
confident that we will have the authorities to continue 
operations.
    Chairman Reed. Are you also confident that given the 
significant drawdown of personnel that you will be able to 
effectively distribute the resources to the Afghan National 
Army and other security institutions?
    Secretary Austin. As you know, Senator, our plan is to keep 
our embassy there, and hopefully as we continue to work with 
the Afghan Government we will establish those capabilities and 
procedures necessary to be able to effectively distribute funds 
and track the movement of those funds and capabilities.
    Chairman Reed. Well, at any point in your review, as the 
situation develops and you feel you need additional 
authorities, please do not hesitate to contact the Committee. I 
think both myself and the ranking member would be very eager to 
provide those authorities.
    You mentioned in your opening statements the scourge of 
sexual assault in the military and the ongoing efforts to 
reform the UCMJ. The last time we did a major military reform, 
in 2017, the Defense Bill required a 2-year implementation time 
frame, and every bit of which was used. Critical to this 
process is the fact that the President must republish the 
Manual for Courts Martial and ensure that ongoing 
investigations and prosecutions are not jeopardized by rushed 
implementation.
    When you forward the administration's recommendation, will 
you include your assessments of the time, resources, and the 
qualified personnel necessary to effectively implement those 
changes?
    Secretary Austin. We will, Chairman, and to your point, any 
proposed change to the UCMJ is a very serious issue. We will 
need adequate time to implement the change in a very 
responsible way, and we will also need resources to make sure 
that we can effectively implement it. We will need flexibility 
to ensure that if there is something that needs to be adjusted 
we can adjust.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. Thank 
you, General Milley and Mr. McCord. Senator Inhofe?
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Because of the 
interest we have here I just have two brief questions. One, 
General Milley, in 2018, you testified that it is hard to 
compare the United States and Chinese defense budgets because 
China's budget is very different, and for a better comparison 
we need to make some adjustments, and we have done that, little 
things like the cost of labor and all of that. But making those 
adjustments is not easy, and that is why we required, in last 
year's Defense Authorization Bill, that the Pentagon do a study 
to try to make this comparison.
    China and Russia combined probably spend more than we do. I 
made that point in an op-ed piece last May. But I would ask 
you, General Milley, the Chinese and Russian economies in 
defense spending are unique, and given this, do you think that 
their relative combined effort is similar to ours, and do you 
think that they understate the spending that they are doing?
    General Milley. Senator, both of our analyses, DOD's 
analysis and the intelligence community's analysis of budgets 
for both Russia and China are classified. At an unclassified 
level I would tell you that, combined, the Russian and Chinese 
budgets exceed our budgets, if all the cards are put on the 
table. Both governments do not put all their cards on the table 
when it comes to their budget. It is a very difficult thing to 
discern, that which is being spent on their defense versus 
other priorities.
    With respect to China, they have put significant levels of 
effort, of their economy, and, of course, their economy is 
second only to ours, significant levels of resources into 
building the Chinese military. The Chinese military, as we have 
noted many times before, is on a significant increasing rise in 
capability over the last 20 or 30 years, and they continue to 
invest heavily in that.
    Senator Inhofe. That is right. Secretary Austin, during 
your confirmation hearing in January you said, and this is a 
quote, you said, ``I see China, in particular, as a pacing 
challenge for our Department,'' and that you need our help to 
deter China. I am worried that if we underfund the military, 
our military, we will undermine our alliances and weaken 
deterrence.
    In your opinion--well, me just state this. We have felt for 
some time, and have said that when we countries, and it 
happened that Senator Rounds and I went to six different 
countries last week, and one of those was Romania. They 
reminded us that we talked to them about 2 percent, they should 
get 2 percent for defense spending, and they did that, and they 
told us that they did that. Yet they are looking at us actually 
reducing our funding, and I would just like to have you comment 
on what kind of effect that might have to other countries too.
    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, Senator. I would say 
that when you look at our overall contributions to the North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), we contribute a 
substantial amount to the NATO effort, and we will continue to 
do so going forward. I think the budget gives us the right mix 
of capabilities and the flexibility to be very effective in our 
efforts to deter China going forward, and Russia, or anyone 
else who would want to take us on.
    So I am confident that this budget will allow us to match 
our resources to our strategy and our strategy to our policy.
    Senator Inhofe. My concern has been that our insistence in 
the previous administration, which I agreed with, that we reach 
the 2 percent in these other countries, and they see that it 
appears that our expectations are much less in this 
administration.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. Before 
I recognize Senator Shaheen, we have a room reserved for a 
closed session after this open session. So any questions that 
the panel feels would be best addressed in a closed session, we 
will retire there. If there are no such questions then we will 
conclude with the open session.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
all three of you for your service to the country and for being 
here this morning.
    Secretary Austin, there is an interesting article in The 
New York Times today that suggests that our plan in Afghanistan 
is to not just provide for some sort of over-the-horizon troops 
to address counterterrorism but that we might also be looking 
at ways that we can provide air support to the Afghan forces if 
they are in danger, or if we are in danger of losing Kabul or 
another major city in the country. It also quotes Afghan 
officials as saying that they have been told by their American 
counterparts that the United States would stop any takeover of 
a major city. Obviously, who knows what the source of that is.
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    But can you tell me if we are, in fact--first of all, where 
we are in our plans to develop an over-the-horizon CT force, 
and if we are, in fact, contemplating any other actions in 
support of the Afghan troops should the Taliban be in danger of 
taking over Kabul?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you, Senator. As you know, we 
continue to provide support to the Afghan Security Forces as we 
retrograde. Once we have completed our retrograde that will be 
very difficult to do, because our capabilities will have 
diminished in country.
    I really will not speculate about any potential outcomes or 
any potential future actions. I will just say that the 
President has been clear that our mission in Afghanistan has 
been accomplished and we are focused on retrograding our people 
and equipment out. Again, going forward, in terms of our CT 
efforts, those CT efforts will be focused on those elements 
that can possibly conduct attacks against our homeland.
    In terms of our efforts to establish over-the-horizon 
capability, I would just point to the fact that as we have 
retrograded a lot of our capability out of country we are doing 
a lot of things over the horizon now. ISR is being flown from 
the Gulf, a lot of our combat aircraft missions are being 
conducted from platforms in the Gulf, and so we have the 
capability now to do that. What we are looking for is the 
ability to shorten the legs going forward by stationing some 
capability in neighboring countries. That is still a work in 
progress.
    Senator Shaheen. So do you have a timetable for when that 
plan might be completed?
    Secretary Austin. I do not have a timetable. I will tell 
you that we will move as quickly as we can, in conjunction with 
State Department efforts.
    Senator Shaheen. In talking with some of the women leaders 
of Afghanistan in the last weeks, one of the things that they 
have asked and said they thought was very important would be 
for high-level American officials--the President, certainly you 
as Secretary of Defense--to speak out against the Taliban's 
attacks against women and girls in the country and to make it 
clear that that is a violation of international norms of 
behavior and human rights.
    I would urge you to do that, along with other members of 
the administration. I think that is the least we can do at this 
point is to make a point of the violation of norms and human 
rights that the Taliban are conducting in Afghanistan, 
especially when it comes to women and girls.
    I want to go on to another issue in my time that is left, 
because one of the things you talked about in your opening 
statement was the importance of taking care of our people. As 
we know, one of the challenges that we are facing, not just 
among DOD employees but intel agencies, at State, has been 
attacks what has come to be known as the Havana Syndrome. The 
National Academy of Science report that was released in 
December calls these directed energy attacks.
    It is my understanding that DOD is the department that is 
taking the lead on treating individuals suffering from these 
attacks. Can you tell us if that is the case, and if you have 
the resources that you need to continue to do that, and then 
what steps you are taking to protect DOD personnel from future 
attacks.
    Secretary Austin. Well, the health and welfare of our 
people is of utmost importance to me, and we are working as one 
element, a larger whole-of-government effort to really try to 
determine the cause of these injuries, and also we are working 
as hard and as fast as we can to expand our medical 
capabilities. We have done that, expanded our capabilities to 
treat traumatic brain injuries (TBI) and acquired brain injury 
(ABI). We will have the ability to treat more people going 
forward, but again, we will remain sighted on this and we are 
working as a part of a whole-of-government effort.
    Senator Shaheen. You factored that into your budget 
request?
    Secretary Austin. We did not ask for additional funds for 
this specific, but we have sufficient funds to do what is 
necessary.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Let me recognize 
Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, 
thank you for being with us today. We had a Seapower 
Subcommittee hearing just this week, and the Navy's vice 
admiral witness before that subcommittee said this, and I 
quote: ``We have done many studies over the last 5 years that 
say we need a larger Navy. The Navy we can afford now is 
roughly 300 to 305 ships. So if we are going to pace the 
adversary we need to have a bigger Navy.''
    Mr. Secretary, did the vice admiral misspeak in saying 
that?
    Secretary Austin. What I would say, Senator, and, you know, 
I think certainly we have the most capable and dominant navy in 
the world, and it will continue to be so going forward. When 
you talk about naval power, certainly size matters, but what 
also matters is having the right mix of capabilities in the 
force, and so our goal is to make sure that we maintain a 
ready, capable, and sustainable force in the future.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Did the Navy vice admiral misspeak in 
saying that we need a larger Navy? He said that two days ago in 
testimony before the Seapower Subcommittee. Can you just answer 
that?
    Secretary Austin. What I will say, Senator, is that for 
some time we have had a goal of a 355-ship Navy, and I think 
that goal is a good goal to shoot at. So I think that is 
probably what he is referencing.
    Senator Wicker. This budget does not get us anywhere near 
back on the path to do that. I also have concerns about the 
Navy's plans for amphibious war ships. Last year, Congress 
authorized, in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), a 
multi-ship procurement bundle for three amphibious transport 
dock (LPDs) and one landing helicopter assault (LHA). This 
would result in a $700 million cost savings, and at that 
hearing on Tuesday, Acting Secretary of the Navy for Research, 
Development, and Acquisition testified that although the Navy 
had reached a handshake agreement to execute the block buy, the 
Department of Defense was unlikely to approve it.
    Why does it make sense that knowing that we are going to 
have to buy these amphibious ships, why does it make sense that 
the Department of Defense might oppose saving the taxpayers 
over $700 million by procuring the ships in a block buy?
    Secretary Austin. As we said at the top, Senator, and you 
well know, we are always faced with making tough choices, and 
so as we looked at what we could do in this budget, and what 
was best to do in this budget, we are making those choices.
    Senator Wicker. All right. Well, let me just say this. This 
is an inadequate defense budget, and I sit here, and while I 
very much admire our Constitution and the fact that we have one 
commander-in-chief, so the military members, no matter how many 
stars they have on their shoulders, under our Constitution they 
salute that commander-in-chief, and he appoints a Secretary of 
Defense and he appoints Cabinet officials, and based on the 
best advice that you and others give him, the commander-in-
chief makes the decision. The Office of Management and Budget 
(OMB) that he appoints apparently has decided that we could do 
just fine in a world where China is expanding in the Pacific, 
where Hamas is still raining rockets down on Jerusalem, where 
Russia is not quitting at all, and where we have just heard 
that the combined budgets of Russia and China are greater than 
ours, we have decided, based on what some budget crunchers in 
OMB, and bean counters in OMB have decided that we ought to be 
able to do, and that we can have massive increases in domestic 
spending, but a cut in purchasing power for the national 
defense budget.
    Let me just say to my colleagues, the Constitution of the 
United States also gives us the power of the purse, and while 
we appreciate the suggestion by OMB budget crunchers, it is our 
obligation to defend this nation, and this proposed budget does 
not do so, in the two respects that I have mentioned, and in 
the respect that the ranking member mentioned earlier on, and 
it is incumbent on us to reverse this and to get our troops and 
our Nation the national security budget that they need.
    Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Let me recognize 
Senator Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to 
our witnesses for your service, your dedication, and your 
integrity.
    As you both know, I have been fighting against sexual 
assault in the military for the last 8 years. I, along with now 
66 co-sponsors on the legislation from the U.S. Senate, are 
proposing that we draw a bright line at all serious crimes, 
take them out of the chain of command. That one change, we 
believe, will create more transparency, more accountability, a 
higher professionalization, and will create less bias within 
the system.
    General Milley, I would like to ask you about your thoughts 
on this proposal. It is my understanding that you are now open 
to removing sexual assault and related crimes from the chain of 
command. Can you please confirm that to the Committee today?
    General Milley. Thank you, Senator, and thank you for your 
leadership on this issue. I have said publicly before, and I 
will say it here, I think that this issue has been out there 
for quite a long time, and we, in uniform, generals and members 
of the chain of command, et cetera, we have not successfully 
moved the needle in resolving sexual assault. In addition to 
that, I have some evidence, some studies, some anecdotal 
evidence, that junior members of the chain of command, or 
junior members in the military, primarily women, have lost 
faith and confidence in our chain of command to resolve sexual 
assault through the chain of command.
    So I am very open-minded to some significant and 
fundamental change in the area of sexual assault and sexual 
harassment. What you mentioned was the bright line of all the 
other--all felonies, for example. I think that requires some 
detailed study before we completely overhaul the entire UCMJ. 
But the focused area of sexual assault and sexual harassment, 
completely open-minded to some very significant change, and I 
think that is also true of most of the senior leaders in 
uniform.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you very much, General. As you 
and I discussed, in recent years we have seen some very 
chilling statistics about bias in the military justice system 
against people of color. Black servicemembers were at least 
1.29 times, and as much as 2.16 times more likely to have 
disciplinary action taken against them in the average year 
across all branches, from 2006 to 2015.
    These disparities largely do not improve, and in some cases 
got worse, in the most recent years. As an example, the 
December 2020 Air Force Inspector General's review found that 
black servicemembers, quote, ``voiced a consistent lack of 
confidence,'' end of quote, in Air Force discipline processes. 
Three in five black servicemembers said they would not receive 
the same benefit of the doubt as their white peers if they got 
into trouble, and 1 in 3 said they believed the military 
justice system is biased against them.
    The problem, however, is even more chilling when you look 
at military capital cases. One 2012 death penalty study found 
that 41 percent of defendants were people of color, but 67 
percent of those that actually received the death penalty were 
people of color.
    So the reason why we wrote our bill 8 years ago to draw 
bright lines against all serious felonies, all serious crimes, 
anything that carried more than a year of penalty, was not just 
to professionalize the systems and remove bias against 
survivors of sexual assault but also to remove biases across 
the board and to professionalize the entire military justice 
system. That is what all military experts in criminal justice 
recommended, and it is what our allies actually did over the 
last 40 years--the United Kingdom, Germany, Israel, Canada, 
Netherlands, Australia.
    As a result, we mirrored that in our legislation, and we 
carve out all uniquely military crimes. So I would like to 
know, General Milley, will you remain to have an open mind as 
you review these statistics and this additional data before you 
make your recommendation to the Committee?
    General Milley. Totally, and I am very sincere. I have a 
complete open mind on this. As I said up front in my opening 
statement, the United States military has a singular purpose, 
to support and defend the Constitution, and we have two tasks, 
to fight and win our Nation's wars and to prepare to fight and 
win our Nation's wars, and unit cohesion is a significant 
contributor--in fact, it is probably the most important 
contributor--to combat power. Sexual assault, sexual 
harassment, any kind of deviance from any sort of good order 
and discipline rips apart at that. Central to the concept is 
also the commander's personal responsibility and accountability 
for the good order and discipline of the unit, and they are 
personally responsible for the cohesion.
    So I am absolutely open-minded to suggestions to improve 
the system, because what we want to do is fix the problem and 
improve the combat power of the U.S. military.
    Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Austin, we have also had the 
benefit of having a conversation about these details, and I 
would like to ask you the same question. Will you remain an 
open mind as you look at new data about racial disparities as 
well as the data you will receive from the panel that you 
requested, advice on specifically sexual assaults and related 
crimes? I ask that you remain an open mind as you look at the 
full version of the details and facts that the DOD has compiled 
over many years and the work of this Committee over the last 8 
years.
    Secretary Austin. Before I answer that, Senator Gillibrand, 
just let me thank you for your incredible work that you have 
done over the years on this issue, on the issue of sexual 
assault and sexual harassment. Whatever changes occur going 
forward will be largely due to your incredible dedication to 
this issue. So on behalf of the Department of Defense, thank 
you for what you have done.
    As you know, Senator, first of all, yes, I always have an 
open mind to solving any tough problem. But as you know, the 
commission that the President tasked me to stand up, and has 
stood up and provided me some initial recommendations, and 
still owes me more recommendations, has been focused on the 
issue of sexual assault and sexual harassment. Those are the 
problems that we are trying to resolve and improve.
    But yes, I always maintain an open mind with any tough 
problem, but we are focused on the issue of sexual assault and 
sexual harassment, and again, thank you for all the work that 
you have done on this issue.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Secretary. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Now let me 
recognize Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Welcome, 
gentlemen. I too want to thank you for your patriotism, your 
years of service, and your years and years of caring for those 
who serve with you in protecting this nation.
    Secretary Austin, I appreciate the way the budget has 
prioritized nuclear modernization and kept important programs 
like the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD), the Long 
Range Stand Off Weapon (LRSO), and the Columbia-class submarine 
on track. I am also happy to see it invest in the nuclear 
command, control, and communications (NC3) and finally begin 
moving forward on replacing the E-4B with survivable, airborne 
operations center.
    During your confirmation you talked about the need for a 
review of our nuclear posture and modernization programs. Has 
the Department begun a formal nuclear posture review, and when 
do you expect it to be complete?
    Secretary Austin. We have not begun that review yet, 
Senator, but it will begin very shortly, and it will take us 
several months to conduct the review.
    Senator Fischer. Well, I think that review process is so 
very important. These systems are the most important military 
capabilities that we possess, and decisions about our nuclear 
policies and programs must be considered in a thorough, 
deliberative process that allows stakeholders from across the 
Department of Defense, as well as other Federal agencies, like 
the Department of Energy, and our allies to provide their input 
so that decisions can be made with a full understanding of the 
consequences. We cannot be careless about this.
    Which is why I was very concerned to see a news story that 
put forth a copy of the memo from the Acting Secretary of the 
Navy, Thomas Harker, in which he directed the Navy to defund 
the sea-launched cruise missile program. This memo was signed 
June 4th. That is just one week after the Department of Defense 
submitted a budget request that asked for $5 billion to 
continue to study that concept, and the National Nuclear 
Security Administration (NNSA) requested $10 million to conduct 
its own assessment.
    Based on what you just said, it seems like this decision 
was made outside of any kind of posture review process. Is that 
correct?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, I have not seen the memo, but I 
would say that, you know, all of us, all the Services and the 
Department are, again, making tough choices in terms of what to 
prioritize and where to accept risk. That memo has to be pre-
decisional because of where we are in the process, and so I do 
not feel comfortable in commenting on his memo. I would just 
say that again, I am committed to a posture review, to make 
sure that we adequately analyze what our capabilities are, what 
is needed in the future, that we maintain the right balance in 
our nuclear forces, going forward.
    Senator Fischer. So you were not consulted on that at all?
    Secretary Austin. That is an internal department memo, I 
believe, based upon what has been said.
    Senator Fischer. General Milley, were the Joint Chiefs 
consulted at all, to your knowledge?
    General Milley. I am not familiar with the memo, nor was I 
consulted, but as soon as we are done here I will go find that 
memo and get consulted.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir. I find it very concerning 
that an Acting Service Secretary, who has not been confirmed by 
the Senate, is making a decision like this, outside of any 
review process, without analysis or input from the Office of 
the Secretary of Defense (OSD) policy, from nuclear matters, 
the Joint Chiefs, or U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM), and 
without taking to other agencies, or having, it seems, any 
discussions with our allies.
    I would also point out that the analysis of alternatives 
for the missile is still ongoing, and so it would seem very, 
very premature to reach any conclusions about it being 
feasible, or infeasible.
    I do think this is the right way to make decisions about 
nuclear policy. Do you agree with that, Secretary Austin?
    Secretary Austin. I do, Senator.
    Senator Fischer. Should a decision like this be made 
through that review process?
    Secretary Austin. I have every confidence that it will be, 
Senator.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. I hope you will follow up with 
the Acting Secretary to make sure that it is a posture review 
that makes a decision on this.
    Does the Department still support the President's fiscal 
year 2022 budget request for this program?
    Secretary Austin. It does.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Happy to hear that. Thank you 
again.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Now let me 
recognize Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to 
Secretary McCord and Secretary Austin and General Milley for 
being here today.
    General Milley, this question is for you, and it is 
specific to the A-10. I think you would agree that properly 
balancing the need to sustain America's military with the need 
to modernize is paramount to ensuring our adversaries are 
unable to outpace the United States. Having the right equipment 
available to our troops on the battlefield is critical, which 
is why I am very concerned, very concerned by the proposed 
divestment of 42 A-10 aircraft in the fiscal year 2022 budget.
    As you know, the A-10 is a combat-proven asset that is 
unmatched in its ability to provide close air support to troops 
on the ground. The Air Force has not been able to establish a 
convincing replacement to carry out this mission, and it has 
not demonstrated a replacement that can match the A-10's cost 
effectiveness.
    Budget analysts have estimated a modest cost savings if the 
A-10s are divested, but those savings are quite small when you 
consider the scope of the Department's $715 billion budget. It 
is critical that we consider the real costs of what we would be 
trading away if we were to take this action before an 
effective, close air support replacement is in place. American 
troops rely on close air support in the most dire of 
circumstances. The A-10 has saved the lives of many men and 
women because of its unique capabilities. Everyone I speak to, 
everyone, who has had experience with the A-10 in combat wants 
that to be the plane that shows up when they are in trouble.
    So when I think about the tradeoffs we would be making by 
divesting, I just do not see that the risk has been properly 
accounted for. I expect that you have had some of these same 
conversations and experiences as you talk to our troops.
    So, General, do you feel that we have adequately assessed 
the risk that these retirements could pose for our troops on 
the ground?
    General Milley. Thanks, Senator, and as a ground soldier 
who has been in a lot of firefights, I know exactly what you 
are talking about with the A-10 or attack helicopters or any 
other munitions delivered by air. It is a very, very important 
capability, and personally I am a big fan of the A-10.
    However, we are talking about 42 aircraft. We are still 
going to have 239. We have got enough for five squadrons. What 
we have to do--we, collectively, Congress, the Department of 
Defense, we in uniform--we have got to recognize and begin to 
shift toward the future operating environment and the changing 
character of war, and we must shift the capabilities that are 
going to be relevant, survivable, and effective against a Tier 
1 adversary sometime in the future. This is a modest decrease 
in the number of A-10s. I think it is an acceptable risk, and I 
support the Air Force's recommendation.
    Senator Kelly. So, General, we often think about these 
things as, you know, what does day one of the war look like.
    General Milley. Sure.
    Senator Kelly. I am also concerned about future conflict on 
day 30, 60, day 180, and in a former life I used to be a test 
pilot. I have flown close air support missions myself in an 
airplane that does not do the job well. I do not see another 
airplane in our inventory--not the F-16, not the F-35--that can 
do the mission like the A-10 can. When you combine the fact 
that it is far superior in that role, and protects troops on 
the ground when they need it the most, and at the same time is 
cheap compared to the flight-hour cost of an F-35 or even an F-
16, and we do not have an airplane that can do this mission 
like the A-10 can, and I am seriously concerned that if we go 
down this road and we remove 42 airplanes from the inventory, 
that if we wind up in a conflict, and we wind up at day 30, 60, 
90, we are going to be regretful that we do not have that 
platform.
    So thank you, General, and I yield back the remainder of my 
time.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Now let me 
recognize Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Secretary, I received, along with 
Congressman Crenshaw, several hundred whistleblower complaints 
about Pentagon extremist and diversity training. I want to 
share just a small selection of what your own troops are 
saying. Mr. Chairman, I have a longer list I would like to 
submit for the record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
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    Senator Cotton. Again, this is just a few examples. One 
Marine told us that a military history training session was 
replaced with mandatory training on police brutality, white 
privilege, and systemic racism. He reported that several 
officers are now leaving his unit, citing that training.
    Another servicemember told that their unit was required to 
read White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which claims--and this 
is a quote--"white people raised in western society are 
conditioned into a white supremacist world view.''
    A member of the Special Operations community has told us 
that they are being instructed that, quote, ``The U.S. Special 
Operations community is racist.''
    One Army officer related to us the words of his general 
officer, who told him that the entire U.S. Army is racist.
    A midshipman at the Naval Academy said classmates are 
calling America a fundamentally racist place, and that this 
sentiment is not contested by school administrator.
    An airman told us their unit was forced into a racist 
exercise called a ``privilege walk,'' where members of the wing 
were ordered to separate themselves by race and gender in order 
to stratify people based on their perceived privilege.
    One African American officer disparagingly said, and I 
quote, ``The Navy thinks my only value is as a black woman,'' 
and not the fact that she is a highly trained military 
specialist.
    Soldiers have come forward to tell us they are being forced 
to watch videos about systemic racism, and documentaries that 
rewrite America's history as a fundamentally racist and evil 
nation.
    One Space Force officer told me that two guardians left his 
ranks in a short period of time. One was a young African 
American who said that after the training she would never have 
joined the military had she known that it was such a hotbed of 
racism. The other was a white airman who said he did not sign 
up to be indoctrinated, and filed separation paperwork.
    Mr. Secretary, we are hearing reports of plummeting morale, 
growing mistrust between the races and sexes, where none 
existed just six months ago, and unexpected retirements and 
separations based on these trainings alone. Again, these are 
not my words. These are the words of your own troops.
    So I want to ask a few simple but vital questions. Mr. 
Secretary, do you believe that our military is a fundamentally 
racist organization? Yes or no, please.
    Secretary Austin. Well, I will not give you a yes or no 
answer or that, sir, because it deserves more than a yes or no. 
The military, like any organization, will have its challenges, 
but I do not believe it is a fundamentally racist organization. 
We----
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. I am sorry to cut you off but 
our time is limited. I think it is a pretty simple question. I 
am glad that you agree it is not fundamentally racist.
    Do you believe that any member of the military should be 
treated differently based on their skin color and sex? Again, 
yes or no will do.
    Secretary Austin. Again, this question deserves more than a 
yes or no answer. It is----
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Secretary, I am sorry to cut you off. 
Our time is limited. It is a very simple question. Should a 
member of the organization you lead be treated differently, in 
violation of the Constitution, I would add, based on their sex 
or the color of their skin?
    Secretary Austin. No, I do not believe that, and that why 
we have diversity, equity, and inclusion focus in the military.
    Senator Cotton. The military, for decades, has been one of 
the institutions in this society where you are most likely to 
get ahead based on your own performance, on your own merit, 
irrespective of the color of your skin or where you came from 
or who your parents were.
    Secretary Austin. Sir, I absolutely agree with that, and I 
am an example of that.
    Senator Cotton. Your distinguished career----
    Secretary Austin. But I would say that----
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Secretary, Mr. Secretary, your career 
is an excellent example of that, but I have more questions, 
based on the reports we have seen.
    The military has included the works of critical race 
theories on its reading list by authors like Ibram Henry 
Rogers, who now calls himself Ibram Kendi, and Robin DiAngelo. 
Mr. Kendi has written, quote, ``The only remedy to past 
discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to 
present discrimination is future discrimination,'' end quote. 
Do you agree with that proposition?
    Secretary Austin. I have not read that and I do not--you 
know, I certainly do not agree with what you just said, but----
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Secretary----
    Secretary Austin.--it is always important to have the full 
context of anything that you are being asked to evaluate.
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Secretary, do you believe that race and 
sex should be the key factor when selecting combat leaders, 
rather than, say, operational excellence, technical 
proficiency, leadership, agility, and integrity?
    Secretary Austin. I do not, Senator. I think what you just 
said should be key components in making any selection.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. I am glad we agree on all this. 
So let me just wrap up by saying this. If troops are subjected 
to the kinds of training drawing on critical race concepts like 
America and our military is inherently racist, or certain races 
are inherently privileged, other races are inherently 
victimized, given what you have said, should they report it up 
their chain of command or to the inspector general or to other 
appropriate channels?
    Secretary Austin. Yes, they should. They have always had 
that ability to do that, and I would recommend that in the 
future. I would also say that diversity, equity, and inclusion 
is important to this military now, and it will be important in 
the future, and so we are going to make sure that our military 
looks like America and that our leadership looks like what is 
in the ranks of the military, and I appreciate your support on 
that.
    Senator Cotton. I agree with that, and like I said, the 
military has always been one of the most diverse institutions 
in our society, where you can get ahead irrespective of the 
color of your skin or who your parents are or where you came 
from. I am glad that we agree on that. This is not about 
diversity, in general, though. This is about a very specific 
kind of anti-American indoctrination that is seeping into some 
parts of our military, based upon the whistleblower complaints 
we have received.
    Thank you. My time has expired.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. Let me recognize Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Mr. Secretary, I want to give you a chance 
to explain the context. Senator Cotton asked you a question 
about your own career, and you indicated that your career is an 
indication that the military can be welcoming to all kinds of 
people. But you were then going to explain the context of what 
your own personal experience has shown you during your time in 
the military, about why we need to take seriously these issues 
of diversity and inclusion. The Senator had other questions, 
but I would like to hear how you were going to answer that 
question, giving the full context.
    Secretary Austin. I think the leadership has a 
responsibility to create a climate where--first of all, we 
should be welcoming to everyone who can qualify and who is fit 
to serve and who can maintain the standards. Secondly, you 
know, we ought to look like the America that we support and 
defend, and our senior leadership should look like what is in 
the ranks. Where we have done a great job in recruiting very 
highly qualified and capable people, I think we need to do a 
bit better in terms of making sure that we are absolutely 
inclusive and making sure that we create pathways, or pathways 
are available for everybody that in the ranks to realize their 
full potential.
    That is what that diversity, equity, and inclusion is all 
about. It is about cohesion. It is about making sure that we 
remain the most effective and lethal fighting force in the 
world, and we have been in the past and we will be in the 
future.
    Senator Kaine. When we move toward diversity in the 
military it has always made us stronger. When President Truman 
integrated the military it was not uniformly popular. In fact, 
I believe his Secretary of the Army ended up resigning after 
refusing to desegregate units about a year after the order.
    But moves like that, where the military has often led 
society in building cohesion, the military does it well. They 
are not always immediately popular but they end up paying 
dividends not just for the military but for American society. 
It has to be done sensibly, carefully, by people who understand 
it, but I applaud you and other leaders who are trying to do 
that.
    Let me now move to questions that have been asked about the 
top line of the budget, and I have gotten some handouts from 
folks who have not yet asked questions, and so I can see some 
more questions on this are coming.
    So, General Milley, if I recall you became head of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff in late 2018. Is that correct?
    General Milley. 2019.
    Senator Kaine. 2019.
    General Milley. 1 October.
    Senator Kaine. Were you involved in the discussions around 
the submission of President Trump's fiscal year 2021 budget, 
which came to this Committee in February of 2020?
    General Milley. Sure. Absolutely.
    Senator Kaine. So I guess I want to just compare the Biden 
proposal, President Biden's proposal for defense to President 
Trump's proposal. My argument is, to some of my colleagues who 
are trying to attack the Biden budget, it is exactly what 
President Trump proposed. President Trump gave us a future year 
defense plan in February of 2020, and it called for a top line 
of $721 billion for this year. Now President Biden has 
submitted a top line of $715 billion.
    So it would suggest that maybe the Trump budget projection 
for this year was $6 billion higher than the Biden budget, but 
that is actually not the case, because under the Trump 
administration, there was a practice of taking money out of the 
Pentagon budget for non-military emergencies. Over an 11-month 
period, between March of 2019 and February of 2020, the Trump 
administration took $10 billion out of the top line. That 
straddled two fiscal years, so divided that in half--about $5 
to $6 billion a year was taken out of the Pentagon's budget by 
President Trump. So the difference between the $715 billion and 
$721 billion is essentially erased, so long as President Biden 
doesn't take money for non-military purposes.
    I have asked the OMB director, I have asked everybody that 
I know in the Biden White House, is it the intention of this 
White House to take Pentagon dollars for non-military purposes, 
and the answer to that is no. President Biden says if Congress 
appropriates, I am going to respect the appropriation, and I am 
not going to spirit monies out of the Pentagon and use them for 
non-military emergencies.
    So my belief is this is a budget that was essentially 
identical to the budget that we would have seen under President 
Trump, based upon the Trump numbers that were submitted to us 
over a year ago. When those numbers were submitted to us, I did 
not hear anyone on this Committee complain about President 
Trump did not have a high enough top line. We ultimately 
control what the number will be, but in terms of the difference 
between the two administrations and their budget submissions to 
this body, I would argue that they are identical. President 
Biden has submitted a top line that is essentially identical to 
what President Trump would have submitted, based upon the 
documents they gave us a year ago.
    With that, Mr. Chair, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kaine, and now 
let me recognize Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for your service to our country. I would like to follow up 
a little bit and continue the discussion that Senator Kaine has 
begun, and that is with regard to the top line of the budget. I 
do believe that this defense budget request, on the whole, is 
moving in a very similar direction that we had before, with 
regard to trying to follow through with the National Defense 
Strategy, the NDS. I think, and I would like confirmation, and 
I will begin with General Milley, that this particular budget 
is focused on achieving the major goals that are found in the 
NDS from 2017.
    General Milley, could you share a little bit about, in 
terms of what those major goals are and the priorities are in 
the NDS that this particular budget is trying to achieve?
    General Milley. Sure, Senator. The NDS, as it was written, 
and that was under Secretary Mattis and I was, at that point, 
Chief of Staff of the Army, and all the Joint Chiefs 
participated in that, that is a rigorous document, it is well 
thought out, and it stood the test of time. We all still use it 
as a guiding light, and we are under a review with Secretary 
Austin and we will see how that comes out, but there will be 
modifications. The document is 4 or 5 years old now, so there 
will be some modifications to that.
    But it is still good, and the fundamentals of it emphasize 
readiness, modernization, lethality, allies, partners, 
irregular warfare. It calls out China, Russia, Iran, North 
Korea, counterterrorism. So the main structures are more or 
less still valid, and perhaps China is a little bit more 
advanced now that they were, say, 5 years ago. So it is still a 
fundamentally solid document.
    But I would tell you, as I said in my opening statement, 
the $715 billion budget requires hard choices in terms of 
prioritization, but I think it adequately meets the needs in 
terms of the priorities of the current, existing NDS and the 
one that we are working on modify under Secretary Austin's 
signature. So I am very comfortable that we can provide an 
adequate defense of the United States of America with a $715 
billion budget.
    Senator Rounds. I understand the direction and the fact 
that you have been involved in establishing and that your input 
has been involved in the development of this budget. But I also 
note that I think nuclear command and control upgrades are 
critical, and would be recognized under this as well, would it 
not?
    General Milley. Yes, absolutely.
    Senator Rounds. The continued development and modernization 
of the nuclear triad would also be involved, would it not?
    General Milley. Absolutely. In fact, we have said that the 
recapitalization of the nuclear triad is the number one 
priority in terms of the actual programs, programmatic 
spending. It is critical that we have the air, sea, and land 
components of that triad in order to maintain the security of 
the United States going forward.
    Senator Rounds. See, General, I think that the basic goals 
of the NDS are represented within this. I do not disagree with 
that. My concern that I will express is that it is based on 
being able to handle those goals but also being able to 
maintain and not expect the Members of the armed services to 
continue to do the day-to-day operations if we have increases 
in inflation, whether it be for fuel or for other supplies, for 
health care, and so forth.
    General, I think there were some very hard choices made, 
and I guess my question to you, sir--and I do not intend this 
to be a gotcha question--the hard choices that had to be made 
in order to achieve the top-line goals of the NDS, where are 
the reductions or the limitations that have to recognized when 
we do have a very similar--in terms of the total number of 
dollars--when we do expect that inflation will run perhaps 
between 3 and 5 percent, and at the same time the NDS expected 
to have, and in order to meet its goals, an ongoing increase of 
between 3 and 5 percent over inflation, which clearly is not 
reflected in the budget, and I know is not news to you, sir.
    General Milley. Sure. I mean, you could do the numbers a 
lot of different ways, and we have Mike McCord here, and he 
knows it better than anyone else. But this budget is about $11 
billion more than the fiscal year 2021 enacted budget. If you 
factor in inflation, you normalize the dollars, it is more or 
less flat, or I think it is 0.5 less, or something like that. 
So it depends on which way you look at the numbers.
    But in terms of the key capabilities, Senator Kelly 
mentioned 42 A-10s getting divested. We had to make a choice 
between buying two subs, one destroyer and a frigate versus two 
destroyers, and things like that. So there are hard choices in 
all of the domains, and this is my sixth budget. In every 
single budget I have seen we are always making hard choices. We 
always have unfunded asks (UFA) lists. We always have ways to 
spend more money effectively for the defense of the country. 
But in my professional opinion, a $715 billion budget, as long 
as we are disciplined in its application and we adhere to the 
priorities that we have established, will provide for the 
defense of the United States.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Mr. Chairman, my time has 
expired. Thank you, gentlemen, for your service to our country.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Now let me 
recognize Senator King.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, I 
want to discuss just for a moment one of those hard choices. 
The top Navy unfunded priority is a destroyer that was 
eliminated from the budget, that was already committed to under 
the multiyear procurement. That has several problems, one 
national security. These destroyer, guided missile (DDG) 
destroyers are the workhorse of the Navy, eyes and ears around 
the world, very important part of our assets. But it also sent 
a shudder through the industrial base. It is unprecedented, in 
my experience, that a multiyear has been breached, which would 
actually cost the government money in penalties. I hope, Mr. 
Secretary, that you and Admiral Michael Gilday can work with us 
to restore that ship, because I think it has importance beyond 
just the one ship. But the symbolism of breaking a multiyear 
and also pulling back on our commitment to increasing the 
capacity of the Navy is, I think, a very important priority.
    That is not really a question. It is an entreaty to you to 
work with us to try to find the funds to restore that ship and 
restore the Navy's number one unfunded priority. Will you 
commit to working with us on that?
    Secretary Austin. Absolutely, Senator. We will do 
everything we can to make sure that we maintain a good working 
relationship with Congress, and I appreciate your tremendous 
support throughout, and especially now. We want to make sure 
that we maintain a ready, capable, and sustainable force. We 
also want to make sure that the industrial base has the ability 
to produce what we have asked them to produce. Current plans 
are to buy that DDG in 2023.
    Senator King. Thank you. The importance of the industrial 
base--I live within 8 miles of the industrial base in Maine, 
and the industrial base is not something you can just turn off 
and on. It has got to be something that is sustained and 
maintained over time.
    Let me turn to a different topic. I believe one of the most 
serious risks this country faces today is accidental conflict 
with China, some kind of conflict in the South China Sea, the 
Strait of Taiwan, and the danger of escalation from that 
accidental conflict of some kind. It is concerning to me that 
we do not seem to have an effective hotline, direct line, 
whatever you want to call it, with China, officials at your 
level and also at the Presidential level. I understand the 
Chinese are reluctant about this, but I believe this should be 
a national security priority. I looked up yesterday and I find 
that Amazon has 11 copies of The Guns of August in Chinese, and 
I think what I might do is buy those and send them to the 
Politburo in Beijing, because this is a very clear and distinct 
danger.
    Do you agree with me that a better deconfliction link 
between military-to-military and also government-to-government 
with China would be an important mitigation of this risk?
    Secretary Austin. I absolutely agree with you. As we look 
at some of the aggressive behavior that we have witnessed from 
China in the Indo-Pacific, you know, I am concerned about 
something that could happen that could spark a crisis. I think 
we need the ability to be able to talk with both our allies and 
partners but also our adversaries, or potential adversaries. I 
think there needs to be a direct line of communication, between 
the military and also between government officials as well. So 
I share your concern and I absolutely agree with you that this 
is critical.
    Senator King. Thank you. One other area that has come to my 
attention. In fact, we had a hearing yesterday on missile 
defense, and General Glen VanHerck said he had to pry the data 
out of another agency. We had Goldwater-Nichols, which has 
enabled joint operations. We do not necessarily have a joint 
capability acquisition, particularly in the area of software. I 
hope that we might work with you and General Milley and others 
on how to rationalize, if you will, the joint acquisition of 
things like software so that we do not have silos within the 
military, that are analogous to the silos that we had pre-
Goldwater-Nichols. Is that something that you will be willing 
to work with us on?
    Secretary Austin. Absolutely. I think it is critical, and 
you have my commitment to do so.
    Senator King. General Milley, I am sorry I did not get my 
questions to you but perhaps we will have a second round. Thank 
you very much.
    General Milley. I am okay with that Senator. Thank you very 
much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Ernst, 
please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Chairman, and gentlemen, thank 
you very much for being here today and for your continuing 
service to our great United States of America.
    Superior weapons personnel and technology ensure that we 
won the 20th century, but of course, now our adversaries have 
adapted their technologies, they have improved their operating 
concepts, and they have expanded their challenges into the new 
domains of cyber and space, and, in fact, President Biden has 
stated, ``The world is at an inflection point with shifting 
global dynamics and emerging crises that demand attention.''
    We, of course, know that we face emboldened adversaries 
such as Vladimir Putin in Russia and President Xi Jinping in 
China. Both are actively seeking to disrupt a stable and 
prosperous global order, and then, of course, we have other 
actors like Iran and North Korea presenting their own 
significant threats. As we are withdrawing from Afghanistan we 
do not see the removal of terrorist threat. Instead, we see, as 
the President has stated, the threat has become more dispersed, 
metastasizing around the globe.
    So of course we want to make sure that we are funding and 
resourcing our troops appropriately, but going along with 
taking care of our own troops is working with other allied 
nations. Secretary Austin, in a March editorial the Washington 
Post, you wrote about the importance of joint partnerships with 
other nations, and called them force multipliers. I do agree 
with you, Secretary. You wrote, ``It would be a huge strategic 
error to neglect these relationships, and it is a wise use of 
our time and resources to adapt and renew them, to ensure there 
are as strong and effective as they can be.'' Yet, the 
President's defense budget guts our partner nation joint 
exercise budget compared to the pre-COVID levels by over 50 
percent.
    So how do you square your advocacy for improving our 
interoperability with our NATO allies and theater partners 
around the world with those proposed cuts?
    Secretary Austin. Well, certainly with respect to NATO we 
are encouraging the members of NATO to do more, to invest in 
air defense and also to do more to contribute to NATO overall.
    What we have been focused on is making sure that--you know, 
you have heard me say that China is our pacing challenge, and 
so we really weighted our main effort there to the Indo-Pacific 
region, and you will note that my first trip overseas was out 
to the region, along with Secretary Blinken, and we visited 
South Korea, we visited Japan, and also made a visit to India 
as well.
    Again, we truly value the importance of strong 
relationships with our allies and partners. I think there is a 
great capacity that can be leveraged there, and so in some 
areas those partnerships, while still strong, are not as strong 
as they could possibly be, so we will remain focused on that.
    Senator Ernst. I do hope so, Secretary. I think this is a 
really important area to focus on, making sure that we are able 
to leverage them and continue to use our allies as this force 
multiplier.
    Mr. Secretary, I also wanted to just make a brief 
statement. I do appreciate that you have stated your commitment 
to making changes to how the military handles and prevents 
sexual assault, and I am concerned about the continued delay 
that we continue to face, though. Certainly if any of our 
adversaries were attacking members of our military, as we have 
seen within our own ranks, members attacking other members 
within our own ranks, if it had been an adversary we would have 
responded immediately. We must respond immediately as well. So 
I am encouraging both you and the chairman to continue to push 
on this issue, to make sure we bring resolution and justice for 
our members of the military, those very important survivors.
    Just a brief statement, and I am sorry, General Milley, I 
did not get to my questions for you either. Secretary McCord, I 
will follow up with you later on the audit. But I do want to 
echo concerns that were raised by Senator Fischer about the 
Navy's intent, whether it was an interoffice memo, whatever it 
was. I do also want to stress my concern that the Navy intends 
to cancel development of the sea-launched nuclear cruise 
missile. I think this is very, very concerning, especially 
coming from an Acting Secretary that has yet to be confirmed, 
and I hope that that is truly not reflective of the overall 
attitude of the Department of Defense.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Secretary Austin. It is not, Senator, and as we said, we 
will be true to our posture review and make sure that that 
drives the process.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Now let me 
recognize, via Webex, Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
being here today.
    Secretary Austin, during your confirmation process you 
disclosed that you were on the board of Raytheon Technologies, 
one of the Nation's largest defense contractors, and that 
caused me to ask you for some commitments about ethics issues 
that you would face. Existing ethics laws already require some 
commitments but they do not go nearly far enough. This matter a 
lot because the Pentagon spends $360 billion every year on 
goods and services provided by contractors, and those 
contractors have a revolving door with the DOD.
    So that is why I have introduced legislation to strengthen 
ethics rules for all public officials. But it is also why I 
asked you during your hearing to extend your recusal from 
matters involving Raytheon for the duration of your government 
service. I asked you to pledge not to seek a waiver of that 
recusal, and to refrain from seeking compensation from a giant 
defense contractor within 4 years of leaving government 
service, and you agreed to make those commitments, and I want 
you to know, I appreciate that. I think the American people 
appreciate that too.
    Secretary Austin, as I recall, you explained that you 
voluntarily made these commitments because you think it is 
important that the American people have concrete assurance so 
that they never doubt that you are working for them and not for 
giant defense contractors. Right?
    Secretary Austin. Yes. That is true.
    Senator Warren. Good, and I just want to say, I also asked 
several Trump nominees to make the same commitments, and they 
refused. You, by contrast, demonstrated considerable leadership 
in making those commitments.
    Now, since your confirmation, the Senate has confirmed five 
additional nominees to go to work at the Pentagon. Not a single 
one of them was on the board of a major defense contractor, 
none of them reported that the bulk of their income came from 
our most powerful contractors, and I appreciate that and I 
supported all of their nominations.
    But this Committee is now being asked to consider nominees 
who do not meet that test, and in these cases, when nominees 
report the vast majority of their income from major defense 
contractors, either through direct employment or consulting, or 
when they are on those companies' boards, I plan to ask 
nominees to make the same voluntary ethics commitments that you 
did during your confirmation.
    So let me ask you, Secretary Austin. Do you agree that the 
people working for you, who have similar or even more extensive 
ties to industry, should be living up to the same ethics 
commitments that you made? Do you think it is important that 
the American people have confidence, as you put it, that these 
Pentagon officials are working for the American people and not 
for their former employers in the defense industry?
    Secretary Austin. Well, Senator, you have heard me say, on 
a number of occasions, that sound, ethical behavior is 
important to us, important to me, and important to the 
Department. I have every reason to believe that those who have 
been nominated to serve will conduct themselves properly and 
exercise sound, ethical behavior, and I am truly appreciative 
of your support in getting our nominees confirmed as quickly as 
possible. We absolutely need them on the team.
    Senator Warren. Well, let me say, though, I recognize the 
importance of filling these important Defense Department 
positions, but I am asking for commitments that they are going 
to avoid conflicts of interests, and I have laid out what they 
are, and you have agreed to them. So the question I am asking 
is whether you think that the people who are going to be 
working for you who have these ties should make the same kind 
of commitments that you make.
    Secretary Austin. Senator, again, I believe that they will 
conduct themselves appropriately. I have no concerns about 
their ethical behavior. I think that they are committed to 
doing the right things.
    Senator Warren. Well, look. I appreciate that you do not 
want to step into this, but this is what leadership is about. I 
am still in conversation with the current nominees, where I 
think these commitments are warranted, and I hope that we can 
come to an understanding as their nominations progress. If we 
can, I will support their nominations. But in these cases and 
going forward, if nominees with significant ties to the defense 
industry refuse to make the commitments you made, then I will 
vote no in this Committee, on their nominations, and I will ask 
for a roll call vote on the floor where I will vote no again.
    So let me be clear. I am asking for these commitments, not 
because I am challenging anyone's integrity but because I think 
it is critical that the American people have total confidence 
that our public officials are truly working for them and not 
for the defense industry that has paid them so well.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Let me recognize 
Senator Tillis, please.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
gentlemen, for being here. I want to go back to the discussion 
of the UCMJ and what is described as military sexual assault. 
It is an area I am frustrated with. I have spent a lot of time 
with Senator Gillibrand. But, Secretary Austin, I am concerned 
that even when we have the discussion here people think we are 
just talking about military sexual assault. But we are talking 
about alleged crime that would have a sentence of over 1 year. 
So that is a sweeping change to the UCMJ.
    I am also concerned with some of the technical aspects that 
have not been spelled out in the bill. It is more of a 
framework. We have not seen the details. But one of the things 
that I am most troubled by is the 6-month implementation time 
frame. In your judgment, to the extent that you know the 
details of Senator Gillibrand's proposal, is that even possible 
to be implemented?
    Secretary Austin. I don't know all of the specific details 
of her proposed timeline. What I would tell you is--and I would 
echo what I said to the chairman a couple of minutes ago, is 
that any change that we make, Senator, I would hope that we 
would be provided ample time to make sure that we properly and 
appropriately implement these changes, because a change to the 
UCMJ is a very significant issue in the military. We want to 
make sure we get this right, and we will get it right if a 
change is required.
    Senator Tillis. General Milley, do you think maybe taking 
crimes that could be barracks larceny out of the chain of 
command is a good idea, and would put us in a position where 
good order and discipline on the part of the command would be 
undermined?
    General Milley. As I mentioned to Senator Gillibrand before 
and some others earlier, I think the commander is essential to 
maintaining good order and discipline in the military. We are a 
military that is built to fight. The UCMJ is there to support 
combat power. At the same time, cohesion is critical, and I am 
very, very open to significant change in the area of sexual 
assault and sexual harassment. When we get beyond that, at this 
point my position is I need to study it more. I am open-minded, 
but I think we would be really--it needs a lot of due diligence 
before we bundle all the 1-year felonies and take them away 
from the commander. So I think it is right to study it further.
    Senator Tillis. General Austin, I think you have heard from 
some of us about the need for a timely report back on the 
commission findings and the DOD recommendations. With the mark-
up coming up next month, I think it is very important that we 
get that feedback if it is to have any impact on what may 
likely be in the National Defense Authorization (NDA) mark.
    Secretary Austin. You are right, Senator, and I understand 
your sense of urgency. I share that sense of urgency. As you 
know, the Independent Review Commission is still evaluating the 
other three lines of effort, that include prevention, victim 
care, and also climate. I will get those shortly, and when I do 
I will make my recommendations to the President, and those 
recommendations will be based upon what I get from the IRC, 
plus my consultations with the leadership of the Services.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. Jumping to budget matters, the 
immediate response force--I know you know; you have spent some 
quality time, you and General Milley, down at Fort Bragg--it 
was deployed back in 2019, after the Iranian-backed Hezbollah 
attacked our embassy in Iraq. The reports that I have got on 
the ground there is the folks from the 82nd Airborne that would 
be a part of the response spent pretty much the day going over 
what you all know is a big complex, getting ready to do it, at 
the expense of briefings and preparation.
    The strategic deployment complex is not yet even on the 
unfunded priorities list. Why is that?
    Secretary Austin. I will look into that, Senator. I do not 
know why the Army has not put that on their unfunded 
requirements list, but I am sure that the Army's choice is 
based upon the input they have gotten from the 18th Airborne 
corps commander and others. But I will engage the Army on that.
    Senator Tillis. I will submit a question for the record, 
because I am concerned that in an instance where we may have to 
once again send out an immediate response deployment request 
that they are not the best prepared that they could be for it. 
I would like to get that reported back, and I will submit other 
questions for the record.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Senator Hirono, 
please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have had a 
number of opportunities, Secretary Austin, to raise my concerns 
about the fact that Homeland Defense Radar-Hawaii (HDR-H), the 
missile defense radar for Hawaii, has been zeroed out over the 
last two fiscal year requests, and so in response to some of my 
concerns raised about the fact that there is no funding 
requested for this radar, which was told to us that it was 
going to be very important as part of our system to protect 
Hawaii, I am told that under the current situation, currently 
protected against today's threats, that is the response I have 
gotten, Secretary Austin.
    But what we are looking at is we need to protect against 
future threats, i.e., 2025 threats. So I am going to want to 
have further discussions with you and your team as to what the 
projected dangers are, going to 2025. I recognize that Hawaii 
is protected under today's threat but not necessarily 2025, and 
that was the time frame in which this radar was determined to 
be necessary for our national security. So I do not want to get 
into further discussion with you on the explanation as to why 
it was zeroed out.
    Let me move on to support for the Pacific Deterrence 
Initiative. The PDI was enacted last year to ensure that DOD 
prioritizes and invests in an often overlooked but critical 
components of joint readiness. In fact, with regard to the PDI, 
the previous commander of INDOPACOM, Admiral Philip Davidson, 
identified five areas of focus in the PDI. One, the Joint Force 
technology; two, force design and posture; three, strengthen 
allies and partners; four, exercises, experimentation, and 
implementation; and five, logistics and security enablers.
    Looking at your budget request, though, I do not see 
requested items in the five areas that Admiral Davidson had 
identified as being supportive of the PDI, and, in fact, your 
request identifies platforms like a Navy destroyer, fleet 
oiler, and items related to the F-35 aircraft as PDI 
investments.
    So I would like to know, why is the vast majority of 
funding identified to support PDI unrelated to the lines of 
effort outlined in the United States Indo-Pacific Command 
(INDOPACOM) Section 1251 report?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, let me say, off the top, that 
our intent was to align our PDI investment with congressional 
intent, and so my staff is currently working with the Committee 
to clarify and adjust any perceived misalignments, and, in 
fact, make sure that we answer any and all questions, and so we 
will continue to work that.
    As you know, we have dedicated some $5.1 billion to PDI, 
and again, our intent was to align our investments with 
congressional intent.
    I will go further to say that a great deal of the 
Department's budget is invested in capabilities and activities 
that concentrate on deterring China, and I would further say 
that I am committed to working with the Committee to making 
sure that we get it right and answer the needs of the commander 
out in PACOM.
    Senator Hirono. Mr. Secretary, I appreciate that commitment 
toward aligning to congressional intent with what the combatant 
commanders are requesting, and I think that alignment needs to 
be much better. For example, the DOD is only partially funding 
INDOPACOM's top three priorities that are important to 
deterring China, since you mentioned that just now.
    Moving on to the importance of military construction, and 
funding, of course, is very critical to what we need to be 
doing. I have had conversations with your team regarding the 
need for a shipyard modernization and infrastructure support 
for that, including a new dry dock for Hawaii. Now I know that 
there is a request for dry docks in Portsmouth, and there is 
money also for saltwater purification system in Norfolk. This 
is in front of requested funding to move the dry dock for 
Hawaii along.
    I would request that you take a look at that. It is very 
clear that the dry dock in Hawaii is very necessary for the 
Hawaii Pearl Harbor shipyard to be able to take care of the 
Virginia-class submarines that are there. We have no capacity 
to do that right now, and so that dry dock needs to be moved 
along. So I request that you look at the funding request to see 
whether you can move the appropriation request for the dry dock 
in Hawaii along.
    My time is up, but I hope that you will continue to discuss 
that particular concern with us and address my concern.
    Secretary Austin. I understand, Senator, and we are 
committed to making sure that we maintain the ability to 
maintain and sustain our force, and so I will take a look at 
that.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Let me now 
recognize Senator Cramer, and also alert all of my colleagues 
there will be two votes beginning at 11:30, and also I believe 
the panel sought a break around that time. So in talking with 
the ranking member we will figure out a strategy to accomplish 
all those objectives.
    Senator Cramer, please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to all of 
you for your service and for being here. Good to see you.
    I want to start, Secretary Austin, by following up from an 
answer that you gave to Senator Shaheen earlier about further 
support for the Afghan forces, and you specifically mentioned 
ISR support from the GCC, and I am wondering if you could tell 
me specifically what kind of ISR support that is, what system.
    Secretary Austin. Certainly we are flying our MQ-9s from 
there, and essentially the vast majority of ISR is being 
provided from other places outside of Afghanistan. You know, as 
we have retrograded we have had to make sure we protect our key 
platforms and systems there.
    Senator Cramer. Are Global Hawk Block 30s part of that?
    Secretary Austin. That is correct, yes.
    Senator Cramer. You realize the Block 30s are slated for 
retirement in this budget? You and I have had this discussion 
before. I am concerned about the lack of a bridge between where 
we are today and where we are going to get to eventually with 
new systems. You have tough choices, and we have heard all 
about the difficult priorities you have to set. But I remain 
concerned about the retirement of Block 30s prematurely, to 
benefit our combatant commanders everywhere, but I think the 
Afghan stand presents a rather unique example of the threat.
    With that, General Milley, could I ask you, are the 
combatant commanders getting all of the ISR support that they 
need, in every theater?
    General Milley. I would tell you that as Chief of Staff for 
the Army for 4 years and Chairman for almost 2, no combatant 
commander has ever gotten all the ISR they wanted. It is one of 
those commodities that is a high demand all the time, and no 
one is completely ever satisfied. Every commander wants perfect 
knowledge, and that is what ISR does is feed you with 
knowledge. But we are never going to get enough ISR to fill all 
the demand.
    Having said that, it is all a function of risk. It is all a 
function of where you take risk, what your priority is, are you 
going to support the main effort, and what do you for the 
supporting effort, and so on and so forth. In this budget, I 
think that we are adequately funding ISR as we go forward, for 
the main effort relative to China, and with respect to the 
Block 30s and the MQ-9s, again, it has to do with relevance and 
pivoting to the future. This budget biases future operating 
environment, change in the character of war, and against the 
pacing threat of China. That is not to say we are going to stop 
everything with respect to A-10s or MQ-9s or some of these 
systems. We have got to make that turn.
    Senator Cramer. So since we are on the topic, if you could 
list the top three threats to America's national security, in 
order, what would they be?
    General Milley. From a military standpoint, strictly 
military standpoint, I think China is the number one military 
threat as we go forward, but I also knowledge that Russia is a 
considerable great power competitor, and those two, in the NDS, 
and in the current strategic environment, from a military 
perspective. There are many, many threats, but from a military 
perspective I put those two up there.
    Senator Cramer. I understand. One of the things I want to 
get at, because I think it was just yesterday President Biden 
announced, when he announced America is back, in Europe, to 
military men and women Air Force in the United Kingdom, that 
according to the military leaders that the number one threat 
facing America's national security is climate change. Six weeks 
ago today, the European Union Parliament, speaking of NATO and 
allies which are a prominent part of your testimony in this 
budget, EU Parliament passed a resolution, 569-67, urging the 
EU institutions and member states to do everything they can to 
stop the completion of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Three weeks 
ago today, President Biden lifted the sanctions on completing 
the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
    I am just kind of wondering--that flies in the face both of 
America's back and it flies in the face of building NATO 
alliances, rebuilding, as the budget document states--I am not 
sure which ones we lost--but I know that there are at least 
eight European union allies, including Ukraine, who strongly 
oppose Nord Stream 2 for national security reasons, and certain 
from climate change standpoint. If climate change is the number 
one threat facing America's national security, allowing Nord 
Stream 2 to be built is not good for the climate.
    So I have some great concerns, and I think we ought to get 
them straightened out. I do not know, for the life of me, how 
completing Nord Stream 2 helps our alliance with the European 
Union, other than maybe with the current Chancellor of Germany.
    General Milley. Senator, if I could just----
    Senator Cramer. Please.
    General Milley.--make a comment on your piece about 
threats. Climate change is a threat. Climate change has 
significant impact on military operations, and we have to take 
it into consideration. Climate change is going to impact 
natural resources, for example. It is going to impact increased 
instability in various parts of the world. It is going to 
impact migrations and so on. In addition to that, we have 
infrastructure challenges here at home--witness some of our 
hurricanes. So climate change does impact.
    But the President is looking at it at a much broader angle 
than I am. I am looking at it from a strictly military 
standpoint, and from a strictly military standpoint I am 
putting China-Russia up there. That is not, however, in 
conflict with the acknowledgement that climate change or 
infrastructure or education systems--national security has a 
broad angle to it. I am looking at from a strictly military 
standpoint.
    Senator Cramer. I just think it is peculiar that the 
President would go to another continent and tell our 
servicemembers there that the number one threat is climate 
change, albeit a threat.
    My time has expired. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Cramer.
    In collaboration with the ranking member, and at the 
request of the panel to take a short break at this time, I 
would move to recess for 10 minutes. It also would allow people 
to go to the vote, which has just been called, and so with that 
I would ask for a 10-minute recess.
    [Recess.]
    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing back to order after 
the short recess, and recognize Senator Blumenthal for his 
questions.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. 
Secretary, Chairman Milley, for your extraordinary service, and 
thank you for being here today.
    I have been very concerned about the ship that apparently 
has been sent from Iran to Venezuela. Apparently two Iranian 
vessels are believed to be carrying arms intended to transfer 
to Venezuela. As you know, these ships are thought to be 
carrying weapons that would fulfill a deal that Iran and 
Venezuela made a year ago. We do not know the types of weapons, 
at least as far as I know. There were reports that Venezuela 
was considering purchasing missiles from Iran, including long-
range ones. Commercial satellite imagery of one of the ships 
shows fast-attack boats loaded on the deck, but it is still 
unclear whether those boats were aboard when the ships began 
their journey.
    I was pleased to see that a senior administration official 
stated that delivery of these weapons would be a, quote, 
``provocative act and understood as a threat to our partners in 
the western hemisphere,'' end quote, and that the United States 
would reserve the right to take appropriate measures, quote, 
``in coordination with our partners to deter the transit or 
delivery of such weapons.''
    Secretary Austin, allowing this ship to dock seems 
significant to me on many different levels. It would be the 
first time that Iranian vessels have made such a transit, and 
the precedent of allowing Iran to provide weapons to the region 
causes me grave concern. Do you share that concern, and how 
would such delivery effect the region, in your view?
    Secretary Austin. Well, Senator, thanks for the question. I 
am absolutely concerned about the proliferation of weapons, any 
type of weapons, in our neighborhood, and so I share your 
concern.
    Senator Blumenthal. Can you tell me whether the 
administration knows exactly what is on those Iranian vessels?
    Secretary Austin. I would like to take that conversation, 
either that question for the record or we could take that 
conversation is another forum.
    Senator Blumenthal. I would be glad to do it in another 
setting. Have you had any communication with your colleagues in 
other nations in this hemisphere?
    Secretary Austin. I have not had any discussions with any 
other nations in our hemisphere on this issue.
    Senator Blumenthal. Let me ask you, on the topic of white 
supremacy and violent extremism, which you and I have discussed 
both in your confirmation hearings and privately, I understand 
that there will be a task force report. Can you tell us when 
that report will be released?
    Secretary Austin. I am sorry, Senator. I did not quite hear 
the question.
    Senator Blumenthal. Can you provide an update as to the 
status of the extremism task force that you announced recently 
and when this Committee can expect to be briefed on the 
results?
    Secretary Austin. As you recall, Senator, early on in my 
tenure I asked the force to conduct a brief standdown to 
discuss the issue of extremism in our ranks, and let me preface 
what I am going to say by saying that, you know, I am totally 
convinced that 99 percent of our troops are focused on the 
right things and doing the right things and embracing the right 
values each and every day. But as I may have mentioned to you 
earlier, I believe that small numbers can have an outsized 
effect regarding this issue.
    So we did gain some insights from the standdown, and it was 
a great opportunity for leaders to have discussions with other 
leaders, and leaders to have discussions with subordinates, and 
talk about those behaviors, and we are focused on behaviors, 
those behaviors that are not supported by the values that we 
embrace.
    In addition to that, we stood up a counter-extremism 
working group which routinely monitors our efforts across the 
Department in terms of what we are doing to make sure that we 
counter extremism or extremist behaviors. They are refining our 
policies and also gaining a better understanding of the 
complete challenge. Certainly, you know, I can have the 
leadership of that working group come to brief you, upon 
request, or any time you want.
    Senator Blumenthal. I would very much appreciate that, Mr. 
Secretary, and I applaud the efforts that you are making 
against that probably less than 1 percent, as you said, 99 
percent. But I think it is an even more overwhelming majority 
who adhere to the basic values and are dedicated patriots, and 
the focus on that less than 1 percent is well warranted, 
because they may have an outsized effect. So I would welcome an 
opportunity to learn more from the task force whenever it is 
appropriate to do so. I will be in touch with your office, if 
that is okay.
    Secretary Austin. I would absolutely agree with you, 
Senator, that it is less than 1 percent. We will gain better 
insights, and also equip our force with better policies and 
definitions.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I 
appreciate that you all are here today.
    Secretary Austin, I want to come to you on the issue of 
nuclear deterrence. When you went through your confirmation 
hearing we had a discussion about that, and in your advance 
policy questions you had made a statement, and I am quoting 
you, ``The tipping point where we must simultaneously overhaul 
these forces is now here.'' That was your comment in reference 
to nuclear deterrence. While we are looking at this budget that 
is before us, we see that modernization is fully funded. But 
then when you look at deferred maintenance, you see that it 
cuts hundreds of millions of dollars from the enacted level, 
the National Nuclear Security Administration's (NNSA's) 
deferred maintenance budget.
    So we know that more than half of the NNSA facilities are 
over 40 years old. Thirty percent date back to the 1940s. So to 
me, this sounds like we are at a tipping point when we discuss 
these facilities. So was that deferred maintenance cut 
coordinated with DOD, and realistically, what effect will it 
have on the ability of the NSNA to meet the DOD requirements?
    Secretary Austin. To my knowledge it was not coordinated 
with DOD, and what I would say to you though, Senator, is that 
it is very important to me and to our Department to make sure 
that we work with the Department of Energy to ensure that we 
achieve our common goal of maintaining a robust nuclear 
deterrent. You have my commitment to make sure that I remain 
engaged with the Department of Energy (DOE) to make sure that 
the right things are happening in this regard.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Then let me ask it like this. What 
are the consequences that happen if we do not modernize and 
bring this infrastructure, maintain this infrastructure?
    Secretary Austin. You have head me say before, Senator, 
that, you know, I am absolutely committed to the modernization 
of the triad, and you know that we have dedicated $28 billion 
in this 2022 budget to that effort. Maintenance is also 
important, and again, with respect to NNSA, we will remain 
engaged with DOE to make sure that the right things are 
happening and gain a better understanding of what DOE's 
objectives are.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, you all frequently will say that 
infrastructure is a part of what you need to retain talent, and 
I would expect that the enterprise's invaluable workforce, as 
they are, as we look at 21st century warfare, that it is 
difficult for them to continue to work in dilapidated and 
sometimes unsafe conditions. And I would assume that that is a 
concern to you also.
    Secretary Austin. It absolutely is a concern, both for what 
the issues that DOD controls and also, you know, I am sure it 
is a concern for all the things that DOE is responsible for as 
well.
    Senator Blackburn. Senator Fischer brought up to you the 
action of the Acting Secretary of the Navy cancelling the 
nuclear sea-launched cruise missile. So why was this decision 
made before completion of the nuclear posture review?
    Secretary Austin. Again, Senator, I have not seen the memo, 
but like the Chairman, I will see it very shortly after this 
hearing. As I understand the purpose of that memo was to issue 
some guidance for planning and evaluation to the Navy. But 
again, I am committed to conducting a nuclear posture review 
that we talked about earlier, and that will be conducted, and 
that will drive our activities going forward.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, I think that memo sent a message 
we did not want to send to Russia and China, when it comes to 
great power competition.
    I did appreciate the Department being on pace to fully fund 
the PDI, and the concern is the number one PDI ask was the Guam 
defense system to be fully funded at $350 million. But when you 
look through this, the funding totals for the defense of Guam 
procurement and the Guam defense development line items in the 
budget was $118.3 million, and that is less than half of the 
money that is required for this, which is the number one 
unfunded priority, if you will.
    So I would like to hear you speak to that. You know, we 
know that these fusion centers are vitally important. I have 
done a good bit of work on these multilateral fusion centers, 
and they serve a critical function of really enhancing our 
intelligence, our information, our logistical coordination. 
Future fusion centers are the commanders' number 11 unfunded 
priorities. These fusion centers also support investments in 
mission partner environments, the number 2 unfunded priority. 
So it seems like we have got a pattern that is going there, and 
I would love for you to address it. I know I am over and there 
are other waiting for questions, and I would be happy to take 
that response in writing.
    Secretary Austin. We will most certainly get it to you, 
Senator. Thank you very much.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn. Let me 
recognize Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and each of our 
witnesses here today, thank you for your service, and thank you 
for being here today.
    But I want to start first by saying how disappointed--and I 
will just say, actually, quite angry--at a recent decision made 
by the Air Force to not award Selfridge Air National Guard Base 
the F-35 international training mission, and my feelings are 
based on the data and the criteria that was presented by each 
of the installations that competed as well as what the Air 
Force put forward. It is clear, from my review of that, and 
others, that Selfridge was clearly the superior choice in the 
matter, and this is clearly a problem that, as we have seen 
before with the Air Force, as all of you know, the GAO is now 
investigating strategic basing decisions being made by the Air 
Force over the last few years. Without question this Committee, 
this body, needs to retain confidence that the choices made by 
the U.S. Air Force are based on data and based on criteria and 
not at a whim, or whatever may be behind it.
    So my question for you, Secretary Austin, is, do I have 
your commitment that you will review the Air Force's F-35 
international training mission decision and we will have an 
opportunity to talk about that?
    Secretary Austin. You do have my commitment that I will 
review it, as I do all of those types of decisions over time, 
and I would also offer to have the Air Force come in and brief 
you on their decision. Air Force typically uses a very detailed 
process to make those kinds of decisions, and I would offer 
that politics has no place in this decision-making process, 
this type of decision-making process. and so, if you desire for 
the Air Force to come and do a lay-down for you, I am sure that 
they will be willing to do that.
    Senator Peters. Well, I appreciate that. I have had some of 
those discussions already, but to make sure that the process is 
indeed an objective process, it is critically important there 
is full transparency so that we can see not only how Selfridge 
ranked, based on that data and the criteria, but also how the 
one that was selected also ranked, so there could be a true 
objective comparison of that criteria. We tend to just get one 
side and not hear the other side. I want to make sure that all 
of our questions are asked. That is something I assume you 
would certainly support.
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Senator. My guidance and 
requirement is that we always try to be as transparent as 
possible.
    Senator Peters. I appreciate that. While I understand the 
fiscal year 2022 budget continues to fund per- and 
polyfluoralkyl substances PFAS remediation, the reality is that 
the funding requested is not anywhere close to being sufficient 
to address the contamination that we continue to find in 
Michigan, and unfortunately hundreds of other sites all across 
the country. The price tag to address (PFAS) contamination 
comes on top of what is already a staggering backlog of 
environmental remediation needs facing the Department.
    This is why I have joined my fellow Armed Services 
Committee members in introducing legislation to expedite 
cleanup of some of the most contaminated sites and why I will 
continue to work to implement clear and enforceable standards 
to guide those.
    So Secretary Austin, how does the Department's budget 
address the management challenge presented by these literally 
forever chemicals? I know this is not a problem that we are 
going to be able to solve in a year or, quite frankly, even in 
the next decade. But the longer we wait to address these toxic 
contaminations, the higher the eventual cost is to our 
servicemembers, to our communities, and, quite frankly, to the 
U.S. taxpayers.
    Secretary Austin. Yeah. As you know there are provisions in 
this budget to address remediation for contaminated sites, and, 
this will extend obviously well beyond this budget. You have my 
commitment to continue to work this going forward.
    I just recently met with Environmental Protection Agency 
(EPA) Administrator a couple of weeks ago to focus on this and 
a couple of other issues. It was a very good meeting. We 
committed to working together and making sure that we met the 
standards of remediation and we had good procedures for 
remediation.
    This is a significant challenge to our country, as you 
pointed out. You know, DOD is an element of a larger challenge. 
Obviously, we are not the only source of this contaminant. But 
I would tell you that DOD is committed to doing its part to 
remediating whatever damage has been done in every part of this 
country where we have contributed to this.
    Senator Peters. Well, thank you, Secretary Austin. I 
appreciate your attention to both of the matters that I raised, 
and I look forward to working with you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator Sullivan, 
please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and gentlemen, 
thank you for your service. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. General 
Milley, you know how much respect I have for both of you. You 
have a hard job, especially coming here to defend a budget you 
probably do not like or did not support internally, but you 
have got to do it, and that is tough job.
    But let me just mention, budgets are a reflection of an 
administration's priorities. Take a look at this chart. I 
handed this chart out to you as well, this chart here. The 
Biden administration, in its $6 trillion budget blowout, 
clearly prioritizes defense and homeland security dead last. 
Dead last. If you look at in terms of inflation adjusted it is 
actually a cut.
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Now I think a lot of us here, Democrats and Republicans, 
think national security should be prioritized first, not last. 
I think you gentlemen probably believe that. But importantly, 
how can we tell the troops that you are leading that we are 
prioritizing their mission, which is defending America, when it 
is clear that the Biden administration's prioritization of 
their mission is last, a declining defense budget when almost 
every other agency in the Federal Government is getting a 
massive, double-digit increase?
    Mr. Secretary, do you want to try to take that one on 
first?
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Senator. What I will tell our 
troops, and what I have told them and will continue to tell 
them, is that I truly believe that the President's budget gives 
us the flexibility to go after the right mix of capabilities to 
defend the Nation and to deter aggression.
    Senator Sullivan. No, I mean, I understand that. I have 
been watching the hearing. I get it. I am just talking about 
the--and again, it is tough question for you because you are 
not in charge of these other agencies like OMB and the White 
House is. But they are clearly not prioritizing the military 
and national defense relative to any other agency at all. I 
mean, look at this chart. They are putting the national 
security mission dead last in terms of the prioritization of 
budgets. How do we tell our troops that, hey, we are putting 
you first?
    Secretary Austin. Our troops are always first. They are 
first now and they will always be first going forward. Again, I 
do believe that we have what we need to go after the right 
capabilities.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. There has been a lot of focus, 
Senator Cramer talked about this issue of climate change. 
Clearly our country needs to address this issue. This is a big 
issue in Alaska. I am always puzzled, though, how our military 
is task-organized to do this. You know, I had the honor of 
serving with you at U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM). General 
Milley, we overlapped briefly in Afghanistan. I do not think in 
any of my military service I heard climate change as a phrase 
mentioned once. I heard the Taliban, Iraq, Iran, improvised 
explosive devices.
    Nevertheless, Mr. Secretary, in your opening statement you 
mentioned climate change 15 times and lethality twice, which I 
think is a bit of a mismatch.
    I was just in South Korea and Taiwan. You guys also 
mentioned China is our pacing threat. Let me ask a simple 
question that relates to these two priorities. What is a more 
immediate threat to our national security interests that DOD 
has the capability of responding to, particularly in the Asia-
Pacific, a Chinese communist invasion of Taiwan or the 
challenge of climate change? I think it is a pretty simple 
question. I think it is actually a really simple answer.
    Mr. Secretary, do you have a comment on that?
    Secretary Austin. Well, first, I do not recall mentioning 
climate change 15 times. I will go back and do my word count.
    Senator Sullivan. I think it was in your written statement.
    Secretary Austin. Okay, and let me also be clear, Senator, 
that lethality is important. This is the most lethal force that 
has ever occupied the planet, and it will remain so going 
forward. That is what we remain focused on in the Department of 
Defense, defending this nation, and we will go after the 
capabilities required to do that.
    Senator Sullivan. So Taiwan invasion by the Chinese 
Communist Party or climate change? I think it is very simple. 
What is the most immediate threat DOD can respond to?
    Secretary Austin. The most significant military threat that 
we are focused on, and you have heard me say this probably 100 
times, Senator, is China. It is our pacing challenge, and that 
is what we have asked you, a number of times, to help us 
resource our efforts on that challenge, and I appreciate what 
you have done thus far, and I know that you will continue to 
help us going forward.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask one final question. Sorry, Mr. 
Chairman. It is related to that. I have another chart here. It 
shows that our budget increases or decreases relative to the 
Chinese. The Chinese have dramatically and consistently 
increased their defense budget annually by at least 6 percent, 
sometimes as much as 13 percent. We have increased ours, during 
the Trump administration, when the Republicans controlled the 
Senate. You see during the Biden administration, Obama-Biden, 
it was dramatically cut. Now we are looking at cuts again.
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    What message does this chart send to China and our allies 
in the region, and can we sustain our declining comparative 
advantage over China, militarily, if these trends continue? 
This both for the Secretary and General Milley.
    Secretary Austin. Well, a message that I am concerned about 
is the message that we send to the world, and that is that we 
are going to continue to go after the capabilities and develop 
the operational concepts to be able to deter anyone who would 
venture to take on the United States of America. So we will 
have the capabilities necessary to defend this nation.
    Senator Sullivan. General?
    General Milley. So, Senator, a couple of things. I want to 
go back and make two points on the budget piece, explaining it 
to the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians out there. 
We are getting $715 billion if this is passed. That is a lot of 
money. That is 50 percent of the entire President's budget. 
That is 1 out of every 2 dollars in the discretionary spending 
of the Federal Government. That is not a small amount of 
change. The increases that you show on your chart, those are 
factually correct, but relative to the whole and in context, we 
are getting a lot of money. So that is the first thing.
    The second thing is relative to climate change. Paragraph 
one of every operations order I have ever seen for 41 
consecutive years says enemy situation to include weather and 
terrain. We always consider weather, and climate change is 
weather at the strategic level. It has military impact. We are 
not going to change climate change. The Department of Defense 
is not going to change climate change. But we must consider it 
in on our strategic calculations, all the time, because it is 
going to increase instability overseas and it has impact on our 
infrastructure here. So climate change is real.
    The military threat is China, as the Secretary just said, 
is the pacing threat. We are calculating all of our 
calculations relative to that as the pacing threat, and others 
are second in nature.
    The third piece, relative to the China versus U.S. 
spending. This is a disturbing trend--there is no question 
about it--with respect to China. They have made a major 
economic investment in developing their military. It has been 
going on for 20 or 30 years. The gaps that used to exist, say 
20, 30 years ago, were like this. Today they are like that, and 
the Chinese have a deliberate plan to be a global challenger to 
the United States of America, militarily, by mid-century. Now 
we have got to continue strong investments in our military, and 
I think this budget, for this year, is an adequate investment 
right now. We have to set the conditions, though, to pivot to 
the future character of war with the pacing threat of China.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Let me now 
recognize, via Webex, Senator Duckworth.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, 
gentlemen. Thank you so much for being here today. Thank you 
for your service to our country.
    While responding to the COVID-19 pandemic, natural 
disasters and civil unrest, or seamlessly integrating with the 
Joint Forces and overseas operations, the National Guard and 
Reserve component continues to answer the call. Over the past 
20 years, the high demand for Reserve component forces has 
necessitated a shift from a strategic Reserve to an operational 
force. In fact, last June, over 120,000 National Guard troops 
were mobilized, more than at any time since World War II.
    In short, our Nation relies on our Reserve component 
forces, the Reserves and the National Guard, to defend the 
United States and fulfill the DOD's national security 
responsibilities. However, even though the National Guard and 
Reserves are serving in critical capacities and in dangerous 
duty assignments, they are not receiving the same pay and 
benefits as their Active Duty counterparts. The complexity of 
the current slate of duty statuses adds unnecessary confusion 
to activating Reserve component forces. The disparity in pay 
and benefits between different duty statuses can also 
incentivize manipulating orders to minimize the servicemembers' 
access to benefits.
    I believe duty status reform is necessary to ensure the 
National Guard and Reserve forces receive equal pay and access 
to the health care and educational benefits they deserve for 
the work that they do. Bottom line: servicemembers doing the 
same job in the same place should not earn different pay and 
benefits based on their duty statuses.
    General Milley, could you please update me on the DOD's 
plans to address Reserve component duty status reform, and when 
do you anticipate releasing your findings?
    General Milley. Thanks, Senator. As part of the Joint 
Force, Active Duty, Reserve, and National Guard, it is a total 
force, and we have a commitment to ensure that we have 
appropriate and fair pay and benefits given to our National 
Guard troops and our reservists. That reform effort is 
underway. We are reviewing that. I cannot give you the exact 
date of when we will have that to you, but we are working it, 
and we are working it very hard, and we are working it with 
both the National Guard Bureau and each of the Services. But we 
do recognize the need to ensure that it is evenly applied in 
terms of pay and benefits to the soldiers in the Reserve 
component, or the troops in the Reserve component.
    Senator Duckworth. Well, will you also commit to making 
sure that whatever the reform proposal is that is appropriated 
shaped to eliminate orders manipulation and current pay and 
benefit disparities?
    General Milley. Sure. Absolutely. You know, our commitment 
is to ensure that everyone who wears the cloth of our Nation, 
whether they are Active, Guard, or Reserve, no matter where 
they are, are treated equally in all respects, to include pay 
and benefits. I commit that to you and I will get you the 
answer on the exact date of when the reform proposals are due 
in.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. Secretary Austin, Reserve 
component servicemembers are required to maintain the same 
proficiency in certain critical skill sets as their Active 
component counterparts, even though they do not necessarily put 
on the uniform every day. This is especially true for pilots, 
for example. They only received incentive pay at a fraction of 
the amount of Active servicemembers.
    I believe every servicemember, whether Active or Reserve, 
deserve to be fairly compensated for maintaining mission-
essential skills. The RAND Corporation has shown that incentive 
pay can help improve retention and is far more cost effective 
than training new servicemembers to replace those who separate.
    As we continue to strengthen our National Guard and Reserve 
forces, we must retain our talented servicemembers. That is why 
I introduced the bipartisan National Guard and Reserve 
Incentive Pay Parity Act, to help ensure that Reserve component 
servicemembers in high-skill roles are compensated at the same 
rates as they Active Duty counterparts.
    Secretary Austin, will you commit to exploring options such 
as the Incentive Pay Parity Act, to help improve retention, 
especially of those servicemembers with critical skills?
    Secretary Austin. I will, Senator, and for all the reasons 
that General Milley mentioned, our Guard and Reserve have done 
amazing work. The skill sets that you are talking about in many 
cases are warfighting or combat-related skills, and so it is 
absolutely important that they are proficient, and they should 
receive the same proficiency pay.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I have one final question I 
will submit for the record, but it has to do with modernization 
efforts to continue across the Joint Force, and wanting to know 
whether DOD and the military services are factoring in program 
performance into decisions about how to prioritize budget 
requests to adequately resource successful programs such as 
future vertical lift. But I will submit that for the record.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth. Let me 
recognize Senator Scott.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. First off, I want to 
thank each of you for your willingness to serve. You have very 
significant roles for our country. Probably the most important 
thing we can be doing is making sure we defend our freedoms.
    Would any of you disagree that when you are thinking about 
Communist China you are thinking about a party that either 
wants world domination or, in the worst case, wants to 
absolutely control the Indo-Pacific?
    Secretary Austin. I do believe that their goal is to 
control the Indo-Pacific, and I also believe that they desire 
to be the dominant to preeminent country in the world, and so I 
think they are working towards that end.
    Senator Scott. So would you all disagree that their goal is 
to eventually take back Taiwan, a great American ally? You 
wouldn't disagree with that, right?
    Secretary Austin. I would not disagree with the point that 
they have a goal of eventually uniting Taiwan with China.
    Senator Scott. That would be whether they do it voluntarily 
or involuntarily, through the military.
    Do you all believe that we are going to just continue to 
see more surveillance by the Communist Party of China of 
American citizens and our allies around the world? We are 
seeing more surveillance all the time. You agree with that, 
right?
    Secretary Austin. I mean, it stands to reason that whatever 
level of surveillance that is ongoing now will continue, and 
quite possibly increase going forward.
    Senator Scott. So if you look at this, you saw what Senator 
Sullivan brought up. You saw the fact that year after year they 
are investing more in their military. Their goal is to have an 
economy bigger than ours, and you seem to agree that if they 
have an economy bigger than ours they are going to increase 
their defense spending. As General Milley says, it is getting 
closer and closer.
    If China is able to pull this off, then our opportunities 
all over the world, opportunities of American citizens and our 
way of life, is going to change, right? If they can do fulfill 
their goals, then our opportunities will be diminished. Would 
you all agree with that?
    Secretary Austin. You know, I would describe our 
relationship with China currently as one of competition. Again, 
you have mentioned that they desire to be the preeminent 
country on the planet, and that is, in fact, the case. Their 
mid- to long-term goal is to do that. They look to compete with 
us, not only militarily but across a spectrum of activity. What 
you see us doing, the military and in other sectors in our 
government, is making sure that we remain competitive, 
economically, making sure that we are developing the best--we 
continue to develop the best scientists in the world, and we do 
the most comprehensive research. So it is a competition across 
a broad spectrum of activity.
    Senator Scott. So if you follow through the reasoning, if 
China wants to be either Indo-Pacific or world dominant, if 
they build an economy bigger than ours, if they continue to 
out-invest us in the military, which they are, at least growing 
faster than we are, then what are you all doing to, one, inform 
American citizens of the risk, because, you know, we all do a 
budget based on what the American citizens believe the priority 
is--that is how we elect our elected leaders. So what are you 
all doing to, one, inform the public of the risk of Communist 
China, and ensure them that we have the budget we need to make 
sure that in 5 or 10 or 15 years we are not sitting here, 
saying we wish we would have done more, we all saw this threat 
but we didn't do enough about it?
    Secretary Austin. Yeah, just about every time you hear me 
speak, Senator, I know you probably grow tired of me taking 
about the competition with China. But that is my focus. My 
number one focus is to defend this nation and protect our 
interests. Our pacing challenge is, and will continue to be, 
China. Again, we are going after the capabilities that can 
match the operational concepts that we are putting into play 
and allow us to be not only competitive but actually dominant 
in this competition.
    So that is what the Department of Defense is doing, and I 
think you see activity across the entire government that is 
focused on making sure that we not only can compete with China 
but maintain our edge with respect to China.
    Senator Scott. Do you think it is important that in your 
role that you inform the American public of the risk of 
Communist China so everybody will be more focused on making 
sure we have the military budget we need?
    Secretary Austin. We do so, routinely, and we will continue 
to do that, Senator Scott.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Scott. Let me 
recognize Senator Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, for holding this hearing. I would like to thank the 
witnesses for your service to our great nation. Thank you for 
being here today.
    Right before the break, Senator Cramer was talking to you 
about our ISR requirements and his concerns, and I am concerned 
as well about the MQ-9. So, Secretary Austin, the MQ-9 Reaper, 
I do not have to tell you, it is critical to supporting our 
current intelligence, surveillance, and recognizance 
requirements. A key part of the MQ-9 architecture is the 
mission at Nevada's Creech Air Force Base. Last year, CENTCOM 
Commander, General Kenneth McKenzie, included additional MQ-9 
funding at the top of his unfunded priorities, and in April he 
told this Committee of the MQ-9's importance and his need for 
more of them, not fewer.
    The Air Force today still lacks the ISR capacity to meet 
combatant commanders' requirements contained in the 2018 
National Defense Strategy. Despite this, the Department has 
previously proposed cutting this platform, their most cost 
effective, without a program of record to replace it, which 
would further risk widening the ISR capability gap that General 
Milley talked about.
    So Secretary Austin, what is the Department's plan for the 
MQ-9, and given its importance, cost effectiveness, and the 
requirement for combatant commanders for more ISR assets, why 
has the Air Force cut funding for this program without a 
program of record to replace it?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, Senator. I think you 
heard General Milley talk earlier about the way combatant 
commanders view ISR, having been a combatant commander in a 
former life. I can tell you I agree with him. There is never 
enough ISR--I will always want more.
    The Air Force has committed to taking off a number of lines 
of ISR, but they are not reducing the tails, the aircraft, that 
go with those lines. What they are doing is making sure that 
they upgrade and modernize their aircraft, where possible, and 
so that they can network the aircraft better. So the number of 
tails is not being reduced. The number of lines is being 
reduced slightly.
    Senator Rosen. So can you get to us some information about 
that so we know what the program of record will be going 
forward and how it can impact us?
    Secretary Austin. Absolutely.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that.
    I would like to move on to talking a little bit about 
Iranian aggression, how we combat that, because Iranian-backed 
militias, of course, are increasingly targeting United States 
installations, our servicemembers in Iraq, via rocket and drone 
attacks. Iran continues to be the world's leading state sponsor 
of terrorism, a threat to the United States allied interests 
all across the world, be its ballistic missile program, its 
support for terrorist proxies like Hezbollah, Hamas, 
kata'ibltezbollah (KH), Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq (AAH), and many 
others.
    According to a recently released annual threat assessment 
of the United States Intelligence Committee, and I quote, 
``Iran-supported Iraqi Shia militias will continue to pose the 
primary threat to U.S. personnel in Iraq.''
    So to Secretary Austin and General Milley, with the 
constant threat to the United States and coalition forces in 
the Middle East posed by Iran and Iran-backed militia groups, 
what are we doing to counter them, and how are we proactively 
protecting our forces and personnel? Do we have what we need to 
do that and prevent them, prevent these militias and terrorists 
from targeting our U.S. troops in the region?
    Secretary Austin. Yeah. We certainly continue to demand 
that Iran cease its malicious behavior in the region, in terms 
of its support of the Iranian-backed Shia militia groups, and 
we demand that they cease providing them modernized equipment 
so that they can conduct these kinds of attacks. We are doing 
everything within our power and our capability to make sure 
that our troops that are forward deployed have adequate 
protection. We are engaging the Iraqi leadership to make sure 
that the Iraqi leadership does what is necessary to help 
protect our citizens, who are there to help the Iraqi 
Government.
    General Milley. So I would say, in addition to everything 
the Secretary said, is think offense/defense. So in terms of 
defense, the force protection of the force, the disposition of 
exactly where they are at, how many they are at, what the 
hardening of those sites, we are doing all of those measures. 
In addition to that, we have air defense capabilities--SeaRAMs, 
counter-rocket and mortar, and counter-unmanned aircraft 
systems that were put in place. Those have been proven quite 
effective, actually, against some of the Shia militia groups' 
capabilities. We are going to continue to reinforce all of 
that.
    On the offense side, I will not discuss it here but I can 
discuss it in some detail in a classified session as to what we 
can do, what we are prepared to do, and what we have already 
done. All of that in combination we think is mitigating the 
risk. It certainly does not reduce it to zero. It is a 
dangerous environment. We all recognize that. But we have got 
to continue to work by, with, and through the Iraqi Government, 
because they are the first line of defense for the protection 
of our forces in their country.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I just want to be sure that we 
have assets on the ground to defend American installations in 
Iraq and Syria----
    General Milley. We do.
    Senator Rosen.--and other places in the Middle East.
    General Milley. We absolutely do.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator Hawley, 
please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to the 
witnesses for being here. Thank you for your service, as 
always.
    Mr. Secretary, if I could just start with you. I asked you 
earlier this year if you agreed with the National Defense 
Strategy assessment that the U.S. military needs to be 
postured, and here is the quote, ``to deter and prevent a fait 
accompli by an agile, opportunistic adversary.'' You responded 
to me in writing, which I appreciated, and I appreciated the 
response you gave, which was, you said, and I am quoting you 
now, ``Yes, I agree with the Commission's finding. A combat-
credible, forward deterrent posture is instrumental to our 
ability to deter, and if necessary, deny a fait accompli 
scenario.'' I assume you still agree with that.
    Secretary Austin. I do, Senator.
    Senator Hawley. Very good, and would you also agree then, I 
assume that this would apply to our ability to maintain the 
ability to defeat a Chinese fait accompli against Taiwan. Is 
that accurate?
    Secretary Austin. That is accurate, Senator. I think nobody 
wants to see a unilateral change of the status quo with respect 
to Taiwan. You have heard us say that we are committed to 
helping Taiwan defend itself, in accordance with the Taiwan 
Relations Act, the three communiques, and the six assurances. 
Our position has not changed in that regard, and we will 
continue to help them develop the capability.
    Senator Hawley. General Milley, if I could just get you on 
this as well. Would you agree that the United States should 
maintain its ability to defeat a Chinese fait accompli against 
Taiwan, if necessary?
    General Milley. I absolutely would, but, Senator, frankly, 
I am not sure what a Chinese fait accompli in Taiwan is. If you 
are talking about a military invasion of Taiwan, crossing the 
straits, the Taiwan Straits, with a sizeable military force to 
seize an island the size of Taiwan against the military that 
they have and with the population that they have, that is an 
extraordinarily complex and difficult operation. Even against 
an unopposed force that is a very hard thing to do. But I can 
assure you that we have the capabilities if there were 
political decisions made in accordance with the Taiwan 
Relations Act and so on. But we do have military capabilities.
    Senator Hawley. To defeat such an attempted invasion is 
what you are saying, General Milley.
    General Milley. Yes.
    Senator Hawley. Got it. Good. Would you agree, Mr. 
Secretary, if I can just come back to you, would you agree that 
we need to be, when we think about deterring China, that we 
need to be as focused on deterring China in the next 3, 5, 7 
years as we are 10 to 15 years from now? I am asking this--the 
context for this is we have heard now from the outgoing United 
States Pacific Command (PACOM) Commander, from the incoming 
PACOM Commander, we just heard earlier this week from the 
former Deputy National Security Advisor that China is 
increasingly aggressive and that the window to deter that 
aggression may be shorter than we had thought.
    So thus my question. Would you agree that we need to be 
focused on deterring them in the short to medium term, 3, 5, 7 
years, including the longer term?
    Secretary Austin. We do, and I would say that those two 
issues are not mutually exclusive, Senator. As you know, they 
complement each other. While we are developing a future 
capability, we certainly have to bridge to that capability, and 
that is absolutely our focus.
    Senator Hawley. Great. Great.
    General Milley. Senator----
    Senator Hawley. Yeah, General.
    General Milley.--I would say the key here is deterrence. We 
are in a condition of strategic great power competition. It 
needs to stay at competition, and deterrence is key to prevent 
it from going from competition to incident or competition to 
war.
    Senator Hawley. Yeah, very good. I am glad you mentioned 
that, and if I could just follow up on that, General. The 
adversary, the competitor in this case, China, knowing that we 
have the ability to deter them, we have the ability to do what 
you said a minute ago, which is if they should choose military 
aggression, we have the ability, should we choose, to deny that 
aggression, that is important for deterrence, is it not, them 
knowing we have the capability?
    General Milley. Yeah. I mean, in simple terms, I mean, 
deterrence is actually a very complex thing, but in simple 
terms you have to have the capability, your opponent has to 
know you have the capability, you have got to communicate that 
capability to your opponent and he has to know it, you have to 
communicate your will to use it, if necessary, and both actors 
have to be rational. If all of those components are there, in 
simple terms, you will be able to achieve a state of 
deterrence. Thus far, it is achieved.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you for that.
    Mr. Secretary, let me just ask you in this context then 
about the Department's request for the Pacific Deterrence 
Initiative. In your request you include, if I understand it 
correctly, $23 million for force design and posture 
improvements, out of the $2.2 billion that is required. I am 
trying to understand how providing our forces in the Pacific 
with just 1 percent of the funding they need for posture 
improvements to support those combat-credible, forward 
deterrent posture that we are talking about, how can we do that 
and say that we are going to maintain the ability to deter or 
deny a fait accompli?
    Secretary Austin. Yeah. So Senator, I would flag for you 
just a couple of issues. The first issue is that, as I said 
earlier, that our intent is to make sure that with respect to 
the PDI investment that we meet the congressional intent, and 
we believe we have invested in a number of things that meets 
that intent, and we will meet with your staff and explain where 
the investments are, to make sure that the language is not 
confusing.
    The second thing is we have invested $5.1 billion in the 
PDI.
    The third thing I would flag for you is that, you know, 
much of what we are investing in, in terms of capability is 
really focused on our efforts to counter the challenge 
presented by China. I would also say that when we speak of 
deterrence, we are not talking about just air, land, and sea. 
We are talking about using every capability across all domains, 
to include cyber and space. We are talking about integrating 
the capabilities of our allies, which I believe is very, very 
important. We are talking about using every lever that the 
United States Government has available to it to, in fact, 
effect that deterrence.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you very much. I have got some more 
questions for you on this, Mr. Secretary. I will follow up with 
you in writing. But I appreciate the opportunity to engage with 
you on it. Thank you, General.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 
being here today.
    Chairman Reed. Put your microphone on, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Hello. Hello. Does that work? Good. 
Thank you. I thought mine was worn out after this long day, Mr. 
Secretary.
    I want to take a little different angle here. I have been a 
team-builder all my life, and I am on the Veterans' Affairs 
Committee, and I have been talking my first 6 months here with 
recruiters out in the field for the military. I am huge 
military person, military brat, and I grew up in a military 
family. We talk about missiles and bombs and ships, and you 
have got to have all of those. But if we do not have the 
people, the best people we can possibly get, we are going to be 
in trouble. It is like winning a football game--the best 
players win games. There is no doubt the same thing within the 
military, and we have always had a strong military.
    I hear a lot of comments about, ``Why should I get in the 
military? They did not look out for the people in Iraq and 
Afghanistan on the burn pits.'' Gentlemen, we have got a huge 
problem. We are getting ready to spend hundreds and hundreds 
and hundreds of billions of dollars for veterans that have gone 
over and breathed that smoke and chemicals and all those 
things. We have got to make better decisions than that. You 
know, all that money we are going to get ready to spend, you 
know, it could have gone to you guys, to defense. But to me it 
is going to be hard to recruit good people, the best people.
    I hear all this extremism stuff, and again, I have dealt 
with people all my life. You know, you don't have to like each 
other to be on the team. A lot of my players could not stand 
other guys on the team. You know, they just had personality 
conflicts. But at the end of the day, you have got to learn 
respect. You have got to earn the trust and dedication and all 
that from your teammates. I mean, you have got to learn that, 
and so I just hate for us to get off on this tangent of the 
people that we have in the military.
    Now in football, for instance, it is your coaches, when you 
bring players in you have got to build a team. You have got to 
bring them together. Same thing in the military. You have got 
lieutenants, captains, drill sergeants, corporals, all those. 
Everybody's responsibility is to bring that team together. The 
things that I am hearing and seeing in the military bases I 
have been going to the last six months, and talking to 
recruiters, we are going to have a tough time. Then we have got 
to face the people in big tech of taking the best and 
brightest, because cyber is one of the things that we have 
really got to get into in the military and continue to grow and 
to build in all of our technology.
    You know, that being said, I just want to make sure that we 
understand, you know, that when we talk about all this 
equipment and budget and all that--and I understand, we have 
got to have that. But if we do not have the people it does not 
make any difference.
    We had the Selective Service here a few months ago. They 
sat right here and they told us that if we had a draft today we 
would have 35 million people that we could draft from, 35 
million. Only 450,000 of those 35 million are eligible to be in 
the military, for one form or another. That is not enough. That 
is not enough. We cannot build a killing machine, which is what 
our military is--you can say anything else. We have got to be 
able to kill the enemy when they come at us, and so that is 
just something I have watched and listened, I have been on the 
road talking, and I want us to have the best military in the 
world, and we probably do. I want us to fund the best military, 
but we have got to fund our young men and women that are going 
to get in the military, and they have got to want to come in. 
They have got to want to be there. They have got to want to be 
there for the simple fact that they want to fight for the best 
country on the face of the earth.
    Just one question I have got for you, Secretary Austin. I 
wrote you a letter, me and Senators Wicker and Cramer, and our 
concern was disturbing, about training materials coming from 
our military. Let me be clear. Like you, we want to see good 
order and discipline in the ranks, for our military to remain 
the nonpartisan institution that Americans trust more than any 
other. But what emerged from some of the Services revealed is a 
disappointing partisan slant and a poorly defined First 
Amendment rights for military members.
    This year we have seen multiple senior military leaders, in 
uniform, from official DOD channels, criticize individual 
members of the press. That ain't got nothing to do with the 
military. To me, you have just got to go about your business.
    We have seen the National Guard march on elected officials 
here, just down from this building. We ask you to provide a 
report on what steps your office will take to reprimand 
officers who inappropriately engage in partisan behavior to 
ensure that the standdown training materials comply with the 
guidance issued by your office. We asked for that report no 
later than May 7th, and we still have not gotten it. I know you 
have been busy, but we would just like to know, you know, the 
steps that we are going to take to clamp down on people that do 
not deserve to be in our military.
    I did not want to get up here and rant, but I have been a 
recruiter all my life, and we have got to be able to recruit 
people, to spend this money that we are going to appropriate 
you in the right way, because we are in dire straits. Secretary 
Austin, could I get that commitment?
    Secretary Austin. You certainly have that commitment, and I 
would also like to offer a thought on what you just said, 
Senator, and thanks for your continued support of our great 
military. Again, you have heard me say this a couple of times 
today. I do not want our force, or anybody else in this 
country, to be confused. It is the most lethal organization on 
the face of the planet, and it will remain so, and it will 
remain the most cohesive organization on the face of the 
planet.
    You know, when I came in as the Secretary of Defense, I 
issued guidance to the force, and that guidance included three 
things. My focus is on defending this nation and protecting our 
interests, the second thing is taking care of our people, and 
the third thing is teamwork. Like you I have put a couple of 
teams together too, and I have employed those teams into 
combat, and I have watched these youngsters do amazing things, 
in support of their country and in support of each other. It is 
unbelievable.
    I have a pretty good feel in terms of what it takes to 
create that kind of cohesion, and cohesion is what is most 
important to me, just like it is to you, Senator. I know you 
absolutely understand that, and you have demonstrated that you 
understand that with some tremendous success over the years.
    Regarding the burn pits, you know, the welfare of our 
veterans is foremost in my mind. I mean, that is something that 
me and the Chairman both really care about. I would tell you 
that the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Secretary Denis 
McDonough, shares that concern. He and I worked together 
closely on a number of issues, and we have vowed to make sure 
that we do not lose our veterans as a transition from Active 
Duty to retirement or get out of the military and go do 
something else.
    I have inhaled those fumes from burn pits. The Chairman has 
inhaled those fumes from burn pits. We know it is important to 
take care of our troops, and you have our commitment to remain 
focused on that.
    But I would also say that this is not just the Army's 
problem. It is not just the military's problem. This is the 
issue for the United States of America. These are our troops, 
and we are going to do everything we can to take care of them, 
and I know that all the great resourcers and authorizers that 
are in this room share that same commitment, and we have felt 
that commitment going forward. I know that it is the reason 
that you asked that question.
    But the question you have is, are we committed to it? 
Senator, I am absolutely committed to making sure that we do 
what we can to ensure that this issue is addressed, and I know 
that Secretary McDonough is working this issue very hard, as 
well.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you for your service. 
Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Tuberville.
    This is the second round. I will recognize Senator King, 
who will ask one question, and he will also preside and 
conclude the hearing, and then he will recognize Senator 
Sullivan for one question. I would ask both the questions and 
the responses be as concise and eloquent as they have been all 
morning. Thank you very much.
    Senator King. [Presiding.] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, 
just a very brief observation. There has been a lot of talk 
about budgets and comparisons of budgets and budgets with 
China. I yield to no one in terms of my determination to 
successfully compete with China on all fronts. I would point 
out, though, even though they have had significant increases 
lately, their budget this year is still less than one-third of 
ours. I think that is important just to have that context, 
because we have been talking about growth, but they were 
showing significant growth from a much lower base.
    General Milley, I am gravely concerned about the men and 
women in Afghanistan who support and aided our troops, and that 
we are not moving fast enough to be sure that they are brought 
to safety. I think this is an essential moral commitment of 
this country, and also a practical one. If we leave these 
people to the tender mercies of the Taliban, I do not know who 
is ever going to cooperate and help us again in another 
setting.
    So I hope that both the Pentagon, the White House, and all 
the agencies of the U.S. Government are committed to this as an 
urgent priority, an urgent priority, and that if we cannot 
repatriate all of these people to this country that we at least 
make arrangements to get them safely out of Afghanistan. Can 
you give me your thoughts on that, please?
    General Milley. Well, Senator, first I think the President, 
Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State, myself, others, 
have all commented on the importance of making sure that we 
keep faith with those that have supported us over the last two 
decades in Afghanistan, and that clearly is our intent, and we 
will do that.
    In terms of specific actions, Department of State has the 
lead on the Special Immigrant Visa (SIV) program and some other 
programs with respect to those Afghans that have supported us. 
That planning is working through the system right now. But I 
can commit to you that it is my belief that the United States 
Government will do what is necessary in order to ensure the 
safety and protection of those that have been working with us 
for two decades.
    Senator King. Thank you. The term ``working through the 
system'' is what gives me some concern.
    General Milley. Sure. I understand.
    Senator King. This is an absolutely urgent priority over 
the next 6 to 8 weeks, I would say, as our troops draw down. So 
I appreciate your commitment on that.
    Mr. Secretary, I assume you will make absolutely the same 
commitment?
    Secretary Austin. You are correct, Senator. This is very 
important to us, and we are pushing as hard as we can on our 
end to move as fast as we can. I know Secretary Anthony Blinken 
has asked for an increase in authorizations in terms of numbers 
to move into the SIV process, and I would ask your support in 
providing that authorization. Again, anything that you can do 
to expand our current capabilities in terms of authorizations 
would be very, very much appreciated.
    Senator King. I am sure the Members of this Committee will 
work to that end, and look forward to working with you.
    Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I share your 
views, and I know most of the Members of the Committee do, on 
keeping faith with those who supported us in Afghanistan. 
Gentlemen, I appreciate you running the gauntlet today. It is 
an important element of our constitutional oversight 
responsibilities.
    I have one final question. A growing and critical area of 
great power competition with Russia, certainly, but also with 
China is our strategy interests in the Arctic. Mr. Secretary, 
as you know, and General, each of the military services, in 
some ways prompted by this Committee, have now published an 
Arctic strategy. I think all of us view this as a positive 
development. Both of you, during your confirmation hearings, 
had committed to focus on this area of our national security, 
to fully resources each of the Service Arctic strategies. 
Deputy Secretary Kathleen Hicks, through her confirmation 
process, did the same.
    In a Strategic Forces Subcommittee hearing yesterday I had 
the chance to ask General VanHerck, who is the United States 
Northern Command (NORTHCOM) Commander, in his role as the 
designated advocate for Artic capabilities, how he saw each of 
the Services implementing their respective strategies in the 
President's new budget submission. He told me that DOD 
resourcing for the various Service Arctic strategies was, 
quote, ``inching along'' but that DOD, quote, ``did not move 
the ball very far down the field with the fiscal year 2022 
budget.''
    So I want to ask both of you, do you share this view, and 
how can we work to fully resource the Service strategies that 
have been out, the DOD strategies that have been put out in 
this important area of great power competition?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you, Senator. You know, when we 
talked before, I indicated to you that the Arctic and Arctic 
strategy was important to me, and that has not changed. It 
remains so.
    As you know, we are working on developing our National 
Defense Strategy overall, and also working through to refine 
our force posture globally. As we develop that National Defense 
Strategy, certainly the Arctic will be an area that we will 
take into consideration and make sure that we have the right 
emphasis, the right focus, and that strategy will drive our 
resourcing.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. General Milley, do you have a 
view?
    General Milley. Yeah, absolutely. We are committed to the 
Arctic strategy, and, you know, this whole issue with the 
Arctic is a classic example of the strategic military impact of 
climate change. As the snowcaps melt, the ice packs melt, it is 
exposing further resources. The Russians and Chinese are 
realizing that, so they are clearly trying to exploit some of 
that. We are going to see increased, not decreased, great power 
competition in the Arctic over time, and we do need to 
resource, full resource the Arctic strategy.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. Thank you. I would like to associate myself 
with Senator Sullivan's questions on the Arctic. It is an 
incredibly important strategic area. I appreciate your 
commitments.
    With no further questions, and I understand the decision 
has been made not to go to an additional closed session, so I 
want to thank our witnesses for their testimony today, for your 
forthrightness, for the information that you have shared, and 
most of all, for your service to our country.
    With that this hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:55 p.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

               Questions Submitted by Senator Gary Peters
                defense community infrastructure program
    1. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin, as co-chair of the Defense 
Communities Caucus, I was pleased to see Defense Community 
Infrastructure Program (DCIP) included in the budget request. As you 
know too well, our installations are no longer islands unto themselves 
and recent events like the pipeline disruption and severe winter storms 
make obvious the need for resilient and secure infrastructure, 
especially for our military bases. The DCIP program was specifically 
designed to provide you with tools to address these issues, while 
leveraging state and local dollars. Do you believe that the Department 
of Defense (DOD) is adequately using this program?
    Secretary Austin. Yes, the Department is using the Defense 
Community Infrastructure Program (DCIP) to competitively select 
projects that address deficiencies in community infrastructure, 
supportive of a military installation, in order to enhance military 
value, installation resiliency, and family quality of life. In fiscal 
year 2020, the DOD awarded sixteen grants totaling $49.8 million, and 
each of these projects is on schedule to start physical construction 
activities by the end of September 2021. DCIP is also on schedule to 
execute its fiscal year 2021 budget of $60 million. The proposal 
submission deadline for the fiscal year 2021 DCIP Federal Funding 
Opportunity closed on July 12, 2021, and submitted proposals are in the 
process of being screened, evaluated, scored, and ranked. Selected 
proposers will be contacted and offered the opportunity to submit a 
grant application.

    2. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin and General Milley, are you 
putting enough emphasis on working with defense communities to address 
critical issues facing our military today?
    Secretary Austin. The Department continues to build partnerships 
with our defense communities that are crucial to the viability, 
resiliency, and sustainability of our local installations, missions, 
and defense industrial base. Often, the same issues confronting our 
military (including but not limited to energy resiliency, public 
services, cybersecurity, and encroachment) are also challenging to our 
civilian neighbors and require a ``whole of community'' approach to 
solve. We welcome opportunities to broaden these partnerships that 
underpin the quality of life and well-being of our servicemembers and 
their families.
    General Milley. I recognize the value in equipping municipalities 
and cooperatives, the smallest elements of local government, with the 
tools necessary to enable successful defense of the homeland. I fully 
support the Secretary's Defense Community Infrastructure Program 
(DCIP), which is designed to address deficiencies in community 
infrastructure, supportive of a military installation, in order to 
enhance military value, installation resilience, and military family 
quality of life.

    3. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin and General Milley, while 
studying how cyber-originating disruptions can impact force projection, 
the Army Cyber Institute's Jack Voltaic Project developed a software-
based framework for local governments to rehearse their cyber incident 
response capabilities. Do you see value in equipping municipalities 
with solutions like this through a DCIP-like process?
    Secretary Austin. This software, while still in development, has 
potential for use by non-DOD entities. We will engage our Federal 
partners, who have the lead in coordinating with these entities, to 
consider whether it would be complementary to their ongoing efforts to 
improve energy and cyber resilience.
    General Milley. Providing communities programs like JACK VOLTAIC 
through a Defense Critical Infrastructure Program-like process is 
important not only to the communities involved but also to maintaining 
our national security. Events like the ransomware attack on Colonial 
Pipeline continue to demonstrate how interconnected our society is and 
how an attack on critical systems can impact our day-to-day lives. The 
ability to wargame these scenarios, identify weaknesses in our policies 
and procedures, and create solutions is vital to everyone. We believe 
that JACK VOLTAIC is a step in helping to improve our communities', and 
by extension, our Nation's resilience.
    The Joint Staff recognizes the value in equipping municipalities 
and cooperatives, the smallest elements of local government, with the 
tools necessary to enable successful defense of the homeland. Building 
capacity to protect the homeland and enable a quick response from the 
Nation's defensive forces requires a multi-layered approach that 
considers authorities and the importance of other Government 
Departments in reaching solutions. The Defense Critical Infrastructure 
Program (DCIP) represents a successful process to support local 
initiatives and can provide a blueprint.
           dod support to the department of homeland security
    4. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin and Secretary McCord, in 
February 2021, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a 
report titled ``Southwest Border Security'' (GAO-21-356) which found 
that DOD developed unreliable cost estimates for its support to the 
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) at the southwest border. Since 
DOD is currently considering a request from DHS to extend the 
military's border mission, I am concerned DOD could inadvertently adopt 
the previous flawed estimate process. How are you factoring the border 
mission into the defense budget?
    Secretary Austin. Other than specified exceptions such as support 
for counterdrug activities and activities to counter transnational 
organized crime pursuant to 10 U.S.C. Sec. 284, the Department of 
Defense (DOD) does not program and budget for support of other Federal 
departments and agencies, including DOD support of the DHS border 
security mission.
    DOD support of the DHS border security mission is provided in 
accordance with Chapter 15 of Title 10, U.S. Code, and Section 1059 of 
the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2016 (Public Law 
114-92), as amended. DOD support provided pursuant to Chapter 15 is 
required to be on a reimbursable basis. However, Chapter 15 authorizes 
the Secretary of Defense to waive reimbursement if certain criteria are 
met, including if providing the support would result in a benefit to 
the DOD element or National Guard personnel providing the support that 
is substantially equivalent to that which otherwise would be obtained 
from military training. In such circumstances, training funds may be 
made available to fund such DOD support.
    Reimbursement is not required for DOD support provided pursuant to 
Section 1059.
    DOD appreciates--and shares--the GAO's interest in ensuring well-
documented cost estimates are used when assessing DHS requests for 
assistance. Rather than use best practices designed for the acquisition 
process, as recommended by the GAO, DOD cost estimates for operational 
support are developed using the Contingency Operations Support Tool 
(COST) model. Informed by prior year actual cost data, DOD cost 
estimates have steadily improved. Armed with cost estimate data from 
fiscal years 2018 to 2021, the cost estimate for DOD support in fiscal 
year 2022 and, if necessary, future years, will be much more accurate.
    Secretary McCord. Other than specified exceptions such as support 
for counterdrug activities and activities to counter transnational 
organized crime pursuant to 10 U.S.C. Sec. 284, the Department of 
Defense does not program and budget for support of other Federal 
departments and agencies, including DOD support of the DHS border 
security mission.
    DOD support of the DHS border security mission is provided in 
accordance with Chapter 15 of Title 10, U.S. Code, and Section 1059 of 
the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2016 (Public Law 
114-92), as amended. DOD support provided pursuant to Chapter 15 is 
required to be on a reimbursable basis. However, Chapter 15 authorizes 
the Secretary of Defense to waive reimbursement if certain criteria are 
met, including if providing the support would result in a benefit to 
the DOD element or National Guard personnel providing the support that 
is substantially equivalent to that which otherwise would be obtained 
from military training. In such circumstances, training funds may be 
made available to fund such DOD support.
    Reimbursement is not required for DOD support provided pursuant to 
Section 1059.
    DOD appreciates--and shares--the GAO's interest in ensuring well-
documented cost estimates are used when assessing DHS requests for 
assistance. Rather than use best practices designed for the acquisition 
process, as recommended by the GAO, DOD cost estimates for operational 
support are developed using the Contingency Operations Support Tool 
(COST) model. Informed by prior year actual cost data, DOD cost 
estimates have steadily improved. Armed with cost estimate data from 
fiscal years 2018-2021, the cost estimate for DOD support in fiscal 
year 2022 and, if necessary, future years, will be much more accurate.

    5. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin and General Milley, how does 
the southwest border mission affect the readiness of the participating 
units?
    Secretary Austin. There is a manageable impact on readiness. 
Participating units continue to maintain high levels of readiness, as 
continually assessed by the Military Services. Nonetheless, DOD 
continues to work closely with the Department of Homeland Security 
(DHS) to address DHS capability and capacity gaps and, thereby, to 
reduce DHS reliance on DOD support to secure the southern border of the 
United States.
    General Milley. There has been negligible impact on the unit 
readiness of forces participating in the southwest border mission. Over 
fiscal year 2020 to 2021, the majority of units have seen no change or 
increase to their pre-deployed readiness levels. Reserve Component (RC) 
personnel have benefited from valuable military training by gaining 
valuable experience from deploying to austere environments and being 
afforded the opportunity to exercise ground, aviation, and intelligence 
support of the interagency in a relatively-benign real-world 
environment under the command and control of U.S. Northern Command.
    The Joint Staff and the Services work diligently to mitigate 
training and warfighting readiness concerns in the Global Force 
Management process. During this process, the Joint Staff coordinates 
with Force Providers to source the southwest border with qualified 
units and personnel whose support has the least impact on the Services, 
and ultimately, Joint Force operational readiness.
                           irregular warfare
    6. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin, will the forthcoming National 
Defense Strategy still aim to institutionalize irregular warfare?
    Secretary Austin. Yes. The Department of Defense will continue to 
institutionalize irregular warfare across the entire Joint Force, an 
effort that is in alignment with emerging strategic guidance including 
the Interim National Security Strategic Guidance. The Department has 
also published a comprehensive implementation plan. Our adversaries use 
indirect and asymmetric strategies in an attempt to erode our strengths 
and pursue their strategic interests. Irregular warfare provides 
valuable ways for us to shape conditions prior to conflict and maintain 
an integrated approach to deterrence alongside our high-end 
capabilities and the efforts of our allies and partners.

    7. Senator Peters. General Milley, a March 2021 article in Joint 
Force Quarterly by Heather M. Bothwell titled ``Gray is the New Black: 
A Framework to Counter Gray Zone Conflicts'' contends that current 
doctrine inadequately addresses gray zone conflicts. How does the joint 
force plan a campaign against revisionist states that employ gray zone 
strategies?
    General Milley. The Joint Force operates across the continuum of 
conflict and requires a whole-of-government approach to synchronize all 
our instruments of national power.
    Currently under development, the Joint Concept for Competing will 
deliver a structured approach and expand the intellectual aperture for 
how the Joint Force will synchronize with other USG departments and 
agencies across the ``gray zone'' in pursuit of national interests. 
Secondly, the Department continues to institutionalize our 
understanding of irregular warfare across the Joint Force. By relooking 
how irregular warfare is defined, taught, planned, and capabilities 
thereof are developed, our military is better positioned to contend in 
the ``gray zone.''
    These two efforts are fundamental to allowing the Joint Force to 
campaign plan against adversaries who have adopted irregular 
methodologies to challenge our interests.

                        avoiding miscalculation
    8. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin, as we strive to maintain an 
edge in conventional deterrence for ourselves and our partners in the 
Indo-Pacific, the possibility of miscalculation increases. Secretary 
Mark Esper convened a Crisis Communications Working Group with the 
Chinese People's Liberation Army. Is that something you plan to 
continue?
    Secretary Austin. Yes. Our aim is to hold the Crisis Communication 
Working Group as an annual event.
        united states-israel operations technology working group
    9. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin, section 1299m of the William 
M. (Mac) Thornberry National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 
2021 (Public Law 116-283) authorized the Secretary of Defense to 
establish, under the United States vice chairman of the United States-
Israel Defense Acquisition Advisory Group, a working group to address 
operations and technology matters. This effort will help to ensure that 
the United States and its allies remain at the cutting edge of 
technological development. Have you taken steps to create this working 
group?
    Secretary Austin. Our allies and partners are a force multiplier 
and one of the greatest strategic assets we have in protecting our 
Nation. To this end, the Department works closely with Israel's 
Ministry of Defense (IMOD) to advance collaborative defense research, 
development, test, and evaluation of operationally-required weapons 
systems to increase the lethality of Warfighters in the United States 
and Israel. I support the intent of this provision. As such, the IMOD 
and the Department are developing the terms of reference for such a 
group for discussion at the Undersecretary (Acquisition and 
Sustainment)-led United States-Israel Defense Acquisition Advisory 
Group meeting.
                         armenia and azerbaijan
    10. Senator Peters. General Milley, during the Nagorno-Karabakh 
conflict, Azerbaijan's drone fleet highlighted the vulnerabilities of 
sophisticated weapons systems. Has this affected how you prioritize 
counter-unmanned aerial systems' capabilities in U.S. European Command?
    General Milley. Small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) technology 
trends are dramatically transforming making them less expensive, 
easier, and increasingly capable weapons in the hands of state actors, 
non-state actors, and criminals not only in USEUCOM but across the 
globe.
    I am encouraged by how our new Directed Energy C-sUAS systems are 
performing in CENTCOM and AFRICOM and we will make appropriate 
allocation of assets based on our worldwide assessment of the threat.
    The Department currently has capabilities to mitigate and/or defeat 
the current generation of sUAS but recognize that advances in 
artificial intelligence/machine learning will increase the challenges 
posed by sUAS with regards to swarming and other advanced techniques.
    18 November 2019, the Secretary of Defense designated the Secretary 
of the Army as the DOD Executive Agent for Counter-sUAS (C-sUAS), 
Groups 1, 2, and 3. US technology to counter the sUAS threat continues 
to improve. DOD establishing the Joint small-Counter UAS Office to 
consolidate, coordinate, and expedite new capabilities in our C-sUAS 
portfolio is a critical step in tackling this threat.

    11. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin, is DOD able to confirm 
reports of abuse against Armenian prisoners of war currently being 
detained by Azerbaijan?
    Secretary Austin. DOD is aware of, but has not confirmed, reports 
of abuse against Armenian detainees currently held by Azerbaijan. The 
United States has called on Azerbaijan to respect its obligation under 
international law to ensure the humane treatment of all detainees in 
its custody, and has called for the release of all remaining Armenian 
detainees as soon as possible.
                                tricare
    12. Senator Peters. Secretary Austin, the Department has taken 
significant steps to keep costs down, but for several years we have 
known that one subset of Tricare beneficiaries - those who rely on 
brand name maintenance medications - face department imposed barriers 
when it comes to convenience and choice of where to access these needed 
prescriptions. Due to current Defense Health Agency (DHA) policy, and 
how they ask for certain rebates, Tricare beneficiaries who rely on 
these drugs are forbidden from picking up their prescriptions at a 
local, in-network pharmacy following their first (up to second) fill. 
At such point, they're forced to use a military treatment facility 
(MTF) or mail order. This also applies to Tricare retirees. In my home 
State of Michigan, access to MTFs with a pharmacy is extremely limited 
- as a matter of geography that leaves many of my constituents in a 
tough spot with no other option than to receive drugs by mail order. 
The current system offers them little flexibility and limited access to 
pharmacist care. We've been working in a bipartisan manner for several 
years to try and fix this problem. In fact, the National Defense 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021 includes optional pilot language 
on this issue. We want to make it easier for military families and 
retirees to access the medications they need. Do we have your support 
in this endeavor?
    Secretary Austin. The pharmacy pilot language in the NDAA for 
fiscal year 2021 directed that the pilot should be executed if the 
total costs of the pilot for beneficiaries to receive all medications 
at retail pharmacies would not exceed the overall total costs to the 
Department for beneficiaries receiving those same medications through 
the TRICARE mail order program. We have explored the costs of this 
pilot, and an independent analysis comparing the costs for this retail 
pharmacy pilot to the costs for the same medications through mail order 
showed that total costs to the Department for this pilot exceed the 
costs for the same medications at mail order by 13.4 percent, or $132M, 
with only a 25 percent beneficiary participation rate. Based on the 
results of the cost analysis, the Department has decided not to proceed 
with this pilot. However, we recognize how critical optimization of the 
TRICARE pharmacy benefit is and we are exploring how to leverage 
commercial best practices that promote patient safety, maximize access 
to covered medications, and deliver high levels of beneficiary 
satisfaction. This work continues.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Tammy Duckworth
        factoring program performance for budget prioritization
    13. Senator Duckworth. Secretary Austin, it's absolutely critical 
that DOD leverage best practices to achieve its modernization efforts 
efficiently and deliver high-quality systems to our warfighters on-
time, on-budget and in alignment with the 2018 National Defense 
Strategy and the 2021 Interim National Security Strategic Guidance. I 
remain encouraged by the Army's Future Vertical Lift Family of Systems, 
an example of the Department of Defense's ability to leverage the 
streamlined middle tier of acquisitions pathway to quickly generate 
highly competitive options at relatively little risk to the government 
and the American taxpayer. As modernization efforts continue across the 
joint force, are DOD and the military services factoring program 
performance into decisions about how to prioritize budget requests to 
adequately resource successful programs, such as Future Vertical Lift, 
and sustain their momentum?
    Secretary Austin. The Department's annual Program Budget Review 
process evaluates programs on many factors, including current 
performance metrics such as cost, schedule, and technical maturity. In 
addition, every program is evaluated for support to the National 
Defense Strategy to ensure programs prioritized for funding are both 
cost effective and aligned to our strategic requirements.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                                  mq-9
    14. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, during the hearing, you 
mentioned that the Air Force is reducing the number of MQ-9 lines but 
not the number of tails. I'm curious why there is any reduction at all 
when the Air Force today still lacks the intelligence, surveillance, 
and reconnaissance capacity to meet Combatant Commanders' requirements 
contained in the 2018 National Defense Strategy. Can you elaborate and 
provide specific information detailing the impact of reducing the 
number of lines on the number of MQ-9 aircraft the Air Force will 
operate?
    Secretary Austin. In fiscal year 2022, the Air Force requested a 
reduction in combat lines. This reduction is less than 10 percent of 
the current force presentation (4 of 60) and does not equate to 
reduction in aircraft inventory. No tails will be divested and no 
squadrons will be reduced. We will continue to work with Combatant 
Commands to ensure daily intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, 
and strike capability requirements are fulfilled. Concurrently, we 
intend to continue development of future ISR platforms that can 
penetrate inside contested environments, persist in these locations, 
and be able to connect and share data in the advanced battle management 
system.

    15. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, can you also please expand on 
what this reduction strategy is and whether there is soon to be a 
program of record to replace the MQ-9?
    Secretary Austin. Starting with the 2018 NDS, and continuing with 
the March 2021 interim NSS, Services are directed to prioritize 
investments in capabilities needed in a peer conflict. The MQ-9 has 
very limited capabilities in contested environments.
    In fiscal year 2022, the Air Force requested a reduction in combat 
lines. This reduction is less than 10 percent of the current force 
presentation (4 of 60) and does not equate to reduction in aircraft 
inventory. No tails will be divested and no squadrons will be reduced.
    While the MQ-9 provides significant utility today, it was not 
designed for operation in a future highly-contested environment. 
Modifying the MQ-9 force presentation is about balancing near and long-
term risk. Continued ISR modernization efforts seek to provide future 
warfighters the ability to access data and information at a moment's 
notice. Future systems must be able to penetrate inside contested 
environments, persist in these locations, and be able to connect and 
share data in the advanced battle management system.
    The Department can offer more details on replacement ISR programs 
in a classified setting.
                             cybersecurity
    16. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, you have noted DOD's continued 
challenges to address competitive requirements for certain key skill 
areas, such as those in the cyber and science, technology, engineering, 
and mathematics fields. Could a civilian cyber reserve corps of 
cybersecurity professionals with prior government or military service 
be of value to the national security enterprise as a means of 
supplementing existing agency personnel with additional cyber capacity 
expertise?
    Secretary Austin. The Department's demand signal for more 
technically skilled personnel will continue to increase, and DOD will 
continue to compete for technical talent with the private sector. DOD 
excels at developing technically trained personnel and is able to 
retain those personnel in the Services' reserve components, which help 
the Department fulfill its cyber missions. To the extent that retired 
or separated personnel wish to serve in other civilian capacities, 
their cyber skills can certainly be applied to the Nation's broader 
cybersecurity challenges. A civilian cyber reserve corps would, 
however, support such missions under civil authorities.
    If called to support civil authorities in a major incident, a 
civilian cyber reserve corps could potentially relieve pressure on the 
Department from being asked to provide that civil support potentially 
at the expense of performing Title 10 mission. In such a scenario where 
a civilian reserve corps were available, the Department could remain 
focused on its core missions.
    Congress directed a study in Section 1730 of the fiscal year 2021 
NDAA to evaluate non-traditional cyber support to DOD, which is 
currently underway. The findings of that study will inform our 
understanding of alternative cyber support models.
                   continued support for the afghans
    17. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, what is the plan for an 
enduring counterterrorism strategy that will be able to address and 
counter the influence of violent extremist organizations, which 
directly supports the stability of the Afghan Government?
    Secretary Austin. During the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing, Secretary Austin testified as follows:
    Over-the-horizon counterterrorism operations are difficult but 
absolutely possible, and the intelligence that supports them comes from 
a variety of sources, not just U.S. boots on the ground. We recognize 
that transnational terrorists will migrate towards ungoverned spaces. 
We are also committed to not allowing Al-Qaeda to regenerate and be 
able to export terror from Afghanistan to the United States of America. 
We will do everything within our power to make sure that does not 
happen.

    18. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, will we establish or build up 
an existing presence elsewhere in the region to continue 
counterterrorism operations?
    Secretary Austin. During the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing, Secretary Austin testified as follows: In 
terms of military tools, we have the ability to offer a range of 
options depending on the President's objectives.
    Additional details regarding discussions to enhance our regional 
presence were addressed during the closed session.

    19. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, what will U.S. assistance to 
Afghanistan look like after withdrawal?
    Secretary Austin. During the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing, Secretary Austin testified as follows:
    Our servicemembers and civilians face a new mission: helping Afghan 
evacuees move on to new lives in new places. I know that you share my 
profound gratitude and respect for their service, courage, and 
professionalism.

    20. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, looking ahead, have we 
established any agreements to fly United States air assets from 
neighboring countries such as Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, or Turkmenistan 
in order to provide the Afghans with air support?
    Secretary Austin. Additional information regarding regional basing 
agreements was addressed by Secretary Austin during the closed session 
of the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed Services Committee hearing.

    21. Senator Rosen. General Milley, how much military equipment will 
be turned over to the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces?
    General Milley. The Department of Defense has identified over $300 
million in equipment and structures to be transferred to the Afghan 
Government via the Foreign Excess Property and Foreign Excess Real 
Property Programs. In addition, DOD has transferred a small amount of 
military equipment to the Afghan Government either as excess defense 
articles (EDA) or as sales from stock using the Afghanistan Security 
Forces Fund. This included 35 EDA MRAPs, 15 other EDA military 
vehicles, about $4 million of ammunition, several hundred small arms 
and small quantities of other items.

    22. Senator Rosen. General Milley, is there logistical support in 
place or plans to maintain that equipment, which is currently the 
responsibility of either Coalition Forces or contractors?
    General Milley. The new Defense Security Cooperation Management 
Office for Afghanistan (DSCMO-A), which replaced the Combined Security 
Transition Command--Afghanistan (CSTC-A), has been established to 
continue the management of security assistance to Afghanistan. This 
includes advice and direct assistance to ensure proper maintenance for 
all donated military equipment to Afghanistan's National Defense and 
Security Forces. (ANDSF).

               north atlantic treaty organization forces
    23. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, is there a plan for North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces to continue supporting 
Afghan Security Forces after the United States withdrawal? If so, what 
will that support look like in the fight to counter violent extremist 
organizations once we leave?
    Secretary Austin. During the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing, Secretary Austin testified as follows: As I 
engage my counterparts, they are very willing to work with us. They 
have been very thankful that we helped them evacuate their people.

    24. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, given the upcoming withdrawal 
and pending any future deterioration in Afghanistan's security 
situation, what is the threshold for re-establishing a NATO presence or 
involvement with the Afghan Security Forces in Afghanistan, should it 
be necessary?
    Secretary Austin. During the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing, Secretary Austin testified as follows: I do 
not think it is preordained that we are going to have to return to 
Afghanistan. We are committed to not allowing Al Qaeda to regenerate 
and be able to export terror from Afghanistan to the United States of 
America.

                         countering adversaries
    25. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, what have we seen regarding 
the status of women in territories where the Taliban has retained 
control or has already overthrown the Afghan Government?
    Secretary Austin. During the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing, Secretary Austin testified as follows: I 
share the concerns of Members of this Committee regarding the status of 
women and girls in Afghanistan. We will have to work to use economic 
levers and also international pressure to hold the Taliban accountable.

    26. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, what can we expect of the 
progress that has been made over these past 20 years once we withdraw, 
and how can we mitigate this?
    Secretary Austin. During the 28 September 2021 Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing, Secretary Austin testified as follows: We 
provided the Afghan military with equipment and aircraft and the skills 
to use them. Over the years, they often fought bravely. Tens of 
thousands of Afghan soldiers and police officers died. But in the end, 
we couldn't provide them with the will to win. As a veteran of that 
war, I am personally reckoning with all of that. But I hope that we do 
not allow a debate about how this war ended to cloud our pride in the 
way that our people fought it. They prevented another 9/11, they showed 
extraordinary courage and compassion in the war's last days, and they 
made lasting progress in Afghanistan that the Taliban will find 
difficult to reverse and that the international community should work 
hard to preserve.
             Questions Submitted by Senator James M. Inhofe
                          afghanistan savings
    27. Senator Inhofe. Secretary Austin, in your testimony you wrote: 
``In Afghanistan, the Department is working to conduct a deliberate, 
orderly, and safe withdrawal, as directed by the President. This is an 
important step in responsibly ending this two-decade-long conflict, and 
it offers us an opportunity to redirect our resources toward strategic 
competition.'' General Kenneth McKenzie testified to the Committee that 
to accomplish the mission from over the horizon that: ``The ranges will 
be greater. The resources will be greater. The risks will all be 
greater . . . '' This week, Acting Air Force Secretary John Roth said 
the Air Force budgeted for $10 billion in unspecified U.S. Central 
Command needs to deal with post-withdrawal missions. Your testimony 
about redirecting resources, an implied savings, seems to directly 
contradict what the combatant commander believes and what the Air Force 
is being required to execute. Approximately how much do your budget 
experts believe will be saved due to the withdrawal from Afghanistan 
and over what timeframe?
    Secretary Austin. Please reference the table below from DOD 
Comptroller. When compared to the fiscal year 2021 enacted funding 
levels, the Department of Defense's fiscal year 2022 savings related to 
the Afghanistan withdrawal is approximately 8$9.4 billion comprised of 
$-4.0 billion in reduced Operation FREEDOM's SENTINEL direct war costs 
(mostly Afghanistan in-country costs) and from $-5.4 billion in reduced 
enduring requirements (mostly in-theater support costs) related to the 
withdrawal. The timeframe for the estimated savings is for fiscal year 
2022 only.
    The Department reinvested not only the Afghanistan withdrawal 
related savings of $9.4 billion, but the entire savings of $11.8 
billion, as noted below, in decreased direct war and enduring theater 
requirements towards weapon system modernization and readiness in the 
fiscal year 2022 President's Budget request.

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                                                              Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year                Related to
                     Operation/Activity                           2021         2022        Delta     Afghanistan
                                                                Enacted      Request                  Withdrawal
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Operation FREEDOM'S SENTINEL (OFS) Direct War Costs                 12.9          8.9         -4.0         -4.0
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Operation INHERENT RESOLVE (OIR) Direct War Costs                    7.0          5.4         -1.6
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Enduring Theater Requirements and Related Missions*                 29.5         24.1         -5.4         -5.4
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European Deterrence Initiative (EDI) and Ukraine Security            4.5          3.7         -0.8
 Assistance Initiative
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  GRAND TOTAL                                                       53.9         42.1        -11.8         -9.4
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* Related missions include OSS, CT Ops, OEF-HOA, etc.

    The Air Forces' fiscal year 2022 budget submission amount of $10.1 
billion includes Operation Inherent Resolve, $1.6 billion; European 
Deterrence Initiative, $0.7 billion; and Operation Freedom's Sentinel, 
$7.8 billion of which $0.7 billion is direct war requirements and $7.1 
billion is enduring requirements.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                    fort bragg military construction
    28. Senator Tillis. Secretary Austin and General Milley, as you are 
aware, the Immediate Response Forces (IFR) is the Nation's rapid 
response force, which is comprised of paratroopers from one of the 82nd 
Airborne Division's brigade combat teams and should be able to rapidly 
deploy within 18 hours. For the first time since 1989, the response 
force received rapid deployment orders on New Year's Eve 2019, 
following the Iran-supported Hezbollah militia attacks on the American 
embassy in Iraq. However, as paratroopers prepared for the deployment, 
they spent most of the day traveling across Fort Bragg from location to 
location gathering equipment instead of spending their limited time on 
briefings or preparing for the mission. Compounding this issue is that 
conventional forces at Fort Bragg have only been supported with a 
single military construction (MILCON) project since 2010, compared to 
the numerous MILCON projects that have supported special operations 
units at the same base. It is irresponsible of Congress, and I would 
argue of the Department of Defense and Army, to require the IFR to 
perform its duties if we are not going to provide the necessary support 
facilities to ensure mission success and soldier safety. While it is 
currently not on the unfunded priority list, do I have your commitment 
that you will support our IFR warfighters by placing their request for 
a strategic deployment complex and a tactical equipment maintenance 
facility on this year's list of unfunded priorities?
    Secretary Austin. According to departmental analysis, the Strategic 
Deployment Complex and the Tactical Equipment Maintenance Facility 
projects supporting the Immediate Response Force lack sufficient design 
status to be placed on the fiscal year 2022 Unfunded Priority List 
(UPL). While they do not met the 35 percent-design threshold required 
to be considered for the fiscal year 2022 UPL list. These projects may 
meet the design threshold to compete in a later budget cycle, and will 
be considered for inclusion in a future funding request.
    General Milley. For President's Budget 2022, the Department will 
continue to evaluate the feasibility of the strategic deployment 
complex and tactical equipment maintenance facility moving forward, 
while the Army prioritized Soldier Barracks and Child Development 
Centers in their unfunded priority list.

    29. Senator Tillis. Secretary Austin and General Milley, taking it 
a step further, if the IFR is essential to the Department's ability to 
rapidly support America's national security in emergent crises, why is 
it not part of the DOD's requested budget? If it is not essential, as 
it would appear based on the budget and unfunded priority list, why 
have it?
    Secretary Austin. The Immediate Response Force is an essential 
asset to the Department's ability to rapidly support America's national 
security in emergent crises. Army needs regularly exceed available 
resources. Based on departmental analysis, this project has not cleared 
the planning and design phase, it is not executable in fiscal year 
2022.
    General Milley. Forces within the Immediate Response Force (IRF) 
are manned, trained, and equipped to respond with short notice when 
called upon. Funding for the IRF is part of each Services' base budget 
request.
    The IRF is a key capability of the Department of Defense's Global 
Force Management (GFM) framework. The IRF, consisting of wide ranging 
abilities from every Service, provides ready forces for proactive and 
scalable Joint Force employment whenever called upon.

                           readiness and risk
    30. Senator Tillis. General Milley, in Defense News at the end of 
last month you stated that the fiscal year 2022 DOD Budget ``strikes an 
appropriate balance between preserving present readiness and future 
modernization.'' I would argue that today our DOD is unable to meet 
present readiness requirements whether it be with personnel, ground 
vehicles, aircraft, ships, and infrastructure. For example, the V-22 
Osprey, which has been in operational service since 2006 and is flown 
by three services, still fails to meet fleet-wide mission capable 
readiness rate set by the Defense Department. With that said, how do 
you envision we preserve current readiness, which we are not doing 
right now, with a budget that does not keep up with inflation and 
reduces spending on present readiness capabilities?
    General Milley. President's Budget 2022 invests $122.1 billion in 
Readiness, a $1.2 billion increase over fiscal year 2021. We are also 
looking at readiness differently than in past years. For example, the 
budget improves maintenance data analytics and parts availability, 
which will enable military and civilian maintainers to repair ships, 
aircraft, and brigades in shipyards, hangars, & depots with greater 
agility.
    Further, the SECDEF-directed 1-to-3 deploy-to-dwell ratio coupled 
with the Afghanistan retrograde allows for a flexible reallocation of 
the Joint Force and increases in our readiness posture.
    While specific challenges remain, tools such as the Directed 
Readiness process aid the Department in balancing near term readiness 
with the need to modernize the force.

    31. Senator Tillis. General Milley, in your testimony to the House 
Appropriations Committee, you noted that this budget is geared toward 
2030 or 2035. I'm concerned about the many years until we build the 
perfect military. What sort of risks are we taking in the near- to mid-
term?
    General Milley. The fiscal year 2022 presidential budget strikes an 
appropriate balance between preserving present readiness and future 
modernization. It's a down payment on investments of the future, with a 
bias toward the future operating environment.
    Advanced technologies, such as Artificial Intelligence, 5G, 
Hypersonics, etc, will change the character of war. As such, the 
Department is investing $112 billion (more than any previous budget 
request) in Research, Development, Testing & Evaluation.
    President's Budget 2022 directs a $25.7 billion investment in 11 
key enabling technologies critical to building a more lethal force, 
that is capable of competing in a peer conflict. This is a $1.6 billion 
increase over fiscal year 2021 enacted levels.
    President's Budget 2022 increases funding in:

      Space (+$2.6 billion from fiscal year 2021)

      Long Range Fires (+$1.4 billion from fiscal year 2021)

      RDT&E (+$5.6 billion from fiscal year 2021)

      Nuclear Enterprises / NC3 (+$2.6 billion from fiscal year 
2021)

      Cyber (+$0.4 billion from fiscal year 2021)

      Readiness (+$1.2 billion from fiscal year 2021)

    32. Senator Tillis. Secretary Austin and General Milley, this 
budget takes risk in the near term with the promise of a better future 
force. The history of military conflict tells us that states will often 
undertake military aggression when they view their relative advantage 
as maximized. Do you worry that this investment strategy plays into 
that dynamic?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is continually preparing the Joint 
Force for an immediate contingency, a potential near- to mid-term 
conflict, largely using today's extant force, and for a future 
conflict, where today's emerging technology will be critical. The 
President's Fiscal Year 2022 Budget strikes an appropriate balance of 
readiness, force structure, and modernization investments across these 
timeframes, in order to dissuade any potential adversaries from 
opportunism in the near, medium, and long-term.
    With respect to a future conflict, the President's Fiscal Year 2022 
Budget emphasizes longer-term modernization, including by investing in 
the Defense Industrial Base. The Department is also focused on making 
it easier for industry to work with the Department, increasing DOD's 
access to commercial innovation and creating opportunities for job 
growth in fields such as advanced manufacturing. This approach will 
help ensure the U.S. Joint Force maintains a competitive edge in key 
domains and warfighting functions, such as in space, 6th generation air 
power, cyber, undersea warfare, and long-range fires.
    General Milley. As the key tasks of the Joint Force are 1) to fight 
and win, and 2) to be prepared to fight and win, we are focusing our 
efforts to adapt to the changing character of warfare. Modernization 
and readiness prioritization, as reflected in this budget submission, 
support the Joint Force's ability to adapt to this evolving 
environment.

                  biological threat reduction program
    33. Senator Tillis. Secretary Austin, the Biological Threat 
Reduction Program finds and fights emerging global diseases that can 
threaten U.S. troops and, ultimately, the world's population. In fact, 
the Pentagon program funded a lab in Thailand that detected in January 
2020 the first case of novel coronavirus outside China. Your budget 
wants the program's fiscal 2022 budget to be set at $124 million--or 45 
percent lower than the current level, according to the your budget 
justification documents. I am baffled and extremely concerned with this 
as the world begins to emerge from the COVID-19 Pandemic. If anything, 
you as a Department, and we as a country should be fully invested in 
this program to facilitate the detection, minimize the spread, and 
quickly respond to future pathogens. Based on the 600,000 American 
COVID-19 deaths, how can the DOD justify cutting the funding for this 
program in half?
    Secretary Austin. Countering biological threats, whether from 
biological weapons or a naturally-occurring pathogen of security 
concern, is an important mission. The DOD Cooperative Threat Reduction 
(CTR) program continues to deliver impressive results through 
investment in foreign partner capabilities to prevent, detect, and 
report biological threat events. It is one, but not the only, program 
that the Department uses to address to biological threats. Moreover, 
DOD is not the U.S. Government's only Department or Agency with this 
mission.
    The DOD countering weapons of mass destruction (WMD) enterprise 
requires balanced investment across the WMD threat spectrum. For fiscal 
year 2022, the Department requested $239.8 million for the DOD CTR 
program, which includes $124 million for biological threat reduction 
activities. This funding level is similar to program's fiscal year 2021 
request, and aligns with validated, prioritized requirements. DOD 
decisions on DOD CTR program investments are based on several factors 
including, but not limited to, presence of a WMD threat as well as 
partner nation will and ability to sustain DOD-provided capabilities. 
To maximize threat reduction outcomes, DOD also partners with 
multilateral bodies and allied nations conducting similar work.

    34. Senator Tillis. Secretary Austin, is this a good example of 
where we're making bad choices simply because DOD's topline is 
artificially low?
    Secretary Austin. No. The DOD Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) 
Program has been and continues to be aligned to achieve the program's 
mission: reduce WMD threats to U.S. interests. The DOD CTR Program is 
one part of a broader, coordinated, whole-of-government and 
international effort to reduce these threats and improve global health 
security, with a specific DOD-focus on protecting the Joint Force and 
reducing risks to the homeland and our partner nations. The fiscal year 
2022 budget request represents the amount the DOD CTR Program can 
effectively spend to fulfill its targeted mission with partner 
countries willing and able to sustain these investments and 
capabilities and deliver high-priority threat reduction return on 
investments.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
             ted stevens center for arctic security studies
    35. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin, you approved the 
establishment of the sixth DOD Regional Center, the Ted Stevens Center 
for Arctic Security Studies, on June 3, 2021 to bring increased focus 
and cooperation on topics pertinent to the unique challenges and 
security concerns related to the Arctic region. As of June 10, 2021, 
DOD is able to begin actions to stand up the center. You delegated 
final site selection authority to Under Secretary of Defense for 
Policy, Dr. Colin Kahl. It is my understanding that Dr. Kahl is 
considering sites in Alaska, Colorado, and the National Capital Region. 
The DOD Plan to Establish a Regional Center for Security Studies for 
the Artic--Report to Congress for fiscal year 2021, lists three 
criteria for site selection: proximity of a location to other academic 
institutions that study security implications with respect to the 
Arctic region; the proximity of a location to the designated lead for 
Arctic affairs of the U.S. Northern Command; and the proximity of a 
location to a central hub of assigned Arctic-focused Armed Forces so as 
to suitable advance relevant professional development skills unique to 
the Arctic region. Alaska is the only location that satisfies these 
criteria. Will you commit to having Dr. Kahl update my office on site 
selection progress, including how each of these criteria are weighted?
    Secretary Austin. Yes, I will commit the Under Secretary of Defense 
for Policy to provide updates to your office as the Department works 
through defining the site selection process it will use, including the 
criteria identified in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) 
for fiscal year 2021 and the operational, logistical, and 
participation-related factors identified by the DOD.

    36. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin, once a final decision is 
made on the location of the Ted Stevens Center for Arctic Security 
Studies, will you commit to having Dr. Kahl provide my office a brief 
on what locations were considered, how they scored on their respective 
evaluations, and what the execution timeline is?
    Secretary Austin. On 17 November 2021, the Department announced 
that it had identified Anchorage, Alaska as the sole candidate city to 
host the Ted Stevens Center for Arctic Security Studies, the Department 
of Defense Regional Center for the Arctic. The Department will continue 
to work through the Department of the Air Force Strategic Basing 
process to evaluate facilities within Anchorage to finalize the site 
selection. Once a final decision is made, I will commit to having the 
Department brief your office on the locations that were considered and 
the anticipated execution timeline.

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              Questions Submitted by Senator Kevin Cramer
                presentation of defense budget materials
    37. Senator Cramer. Secretary Austin, the Fiscal Year 2021 National 
Defense Authorization Act Senate Report (S. Rpt. 116-236) included 
language that said ``The Committee additionally directs that the 
amounts and shares for each military service or department reported 
pursuant to this direction shall not include amounts that are not 
directly related to the budgets of each service or department, such as 
funding that is subsequently redirected to general defense-wide needs 
or for other national security purposes.'' But this year's Office of 
the Secretary of Defense's Roll Out Brief did not differentiate the 
amount of topline budget a service received versus what they could 
control. Why wasn't this Senate report language executed?
    Secretary Austin. There are classified reasons why the budget 
presentation exists in its current form. The Comptroller takes care to 
avoid inadvertently exposing classified information to the public and 
continues to provide the annual classified budget extract report along 
with the President's Budget submission to the Committees in order to 
present a complete, classified picture to Congress. The Department was 
unable to provide the display requested by the Congress for the fiscal 
year 2022 Budget Request without adversely affecting 
counterintelligence, but is considering several options to do so in the 
future.

    38. Senator Cramer. Secretary McCord, broken out by service, how 
much ``pass-through'' money was put under each service's topline 
budget?
    Secretary McCord. The amounts of ``pass-though'' money for each 
Service are classified and were provided in the annual classified 
budget extract report that accompanied the Fiscal Year 2022 President's 
Budget submission to the committees. A similar classified budget 
extract report will be provided for the Fiscal Year 2023 President's 
Budget submission. I understand that the classification issues involved 
here can hinder a full understanding of the defense budget structure by 
the public.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                     the threat of a fait accompli
    39. Senator Hawley. General Milley, the Defense Science Board 
assessed the following in June 2018: ``Russia and China have each 
developed theories of victory that differ in important respects, but 
that have in common this idea of exploiting asymmetries in space and 
time and asymmetries in stakes. In particular, once it is clear that 
armed conflict is inevitable, they will attempt to achieve a decisive 
outcome very quickly, presenting the U.S. and its allies with a fait 
accompli. They will then seek to demonstrate that the U.S. and its 
allies will incur significant costs in seeking to reverse that 
outcome.'' Do you agree with the Defense Science Board's assessment?
    General Milley. Yes. Asymmetry in space and time just means that 
adversaries are very close to the fight and can get there fast. During 
a crisis and as conflict begins, adversaries will work tirelessly in 
the information environment, communicating to the international 
community, to their own people, and to our citizens in an attempt to 
convince the world that their military coercion is just and reasonable, 
and that the outcome matters more to them than it does to us. This 
narrative will be coupled with operational concepts explicitly designed 
to make it difficult and costly for our military to move into the 
region. Adversaries' theories of victory explicitly attempt to win 
without fighting. This combat without (direct) conflict aims to cripple 
the Joint Force before it ever leaves the homeland. If they are 
unsuccessful in that effort, they plan to contest our global logistical 
enterprise so that our units are degraded by the time they reach the 
battlefield. Finally, they will demonstrate that the stakes in such a 
conflict are considerably higher with nuclear posturing and potentially 
threatening nuclear escalation if the conflict does not go their way.

    40. Senator Hawley. General Milley, the National Defense Strategy 
Commission found in November 2018 that ``successfully competing in 
Europe and the Indo-Pacific region, while also managing escalation 
dynamics, requires positioning substantial capability forward . . . to 
deter and prevent a fait accompli by an agile, opportunistic 
adversary.'' Do you agree with this finding by the National Defense 
Strategy Commission?
    General Milley. Yes. Fait accompli attacks typically occur 
relatively close to an adversaries' homeland. This may require the 
Joint Force to rapidly project power far from the U.S. Homeland to 
counter them. However, we have to offset adversary positional advantage 
with a variety of forward forces that are credible, lethal, and can 
maneuver decisively to prevent a fait accompli in the manner of our 
choosing.
    The Joint Force, along with its Allies and Partners, can deter and 
prevail against an attempted fait accompli with forward postured 
forces, as well as through rotational and periodic deployments of units 
with unique capabilities across all domains. The Joint Force's Dynamic 
Force Employment attempts to anticipate adversary actions and support 
U.S. interests with agility akin to or greater than that of our 
adversaries. The Joint Force supports Allied and Partner resistance to 
adversary coercion/aggression and prevents fait accomplish by 
supplementing them with complementary U.S. capabilities and working 
together toward high levels of interoperability--in planning and 
operations. The Department supports these actions through security 
cooperation initiatives including foreign military sales, bilateral and 
multilateral exercises, and joint/combined training.
    I would add that our definition of what is `forward' should expand 
as well, occurring not just in the land sea, and air domains, but also 
engaging in space and cyberspace, and through the electromagnetic 
spectrum. Our effective forward presence, exercises, and operations, 
backed by additional combat credible forces at home and superior power 
projection capacity enables the Joint Force to militarily compete and 
prevent successful fait accompli attacks in support of national 
interests.

    41. Senator Hawley. General Milley, the National Defense Strategy 
Commission also found that ``the United States must develop new 
operational concepts to achieve strategic advantage, including by 
addressing the ability of aggressive regimes to achieve a fait accompli 
against states on their periphery.'' Do you agree with this finding by 
the National Defense Strategy Commission?
    General Milley. Yes. Adversaries are working hard to modernize 
their forces in ways that they believe can to deter the United States 
from intervening and if necessary, defeat the U.S. military so they can 
achieve their regional goals. New joint operational concepts are 
designed to work across competition and war--a distinction our 
adversaries do not recognize. New operational concepts will improve our 
ability to convince adversaries that military coercion short of war 
will not have the desired effect, while also ensuring that we have the 
military advantages needed to defeat adversary aggression when it 
occurs. Just as important, new operational concepts will support 
broader national efforts to convince adversaries that they cannot 
succeed. But the Joint Force cannot do this alone. We need to better 
synchronize the Joint Force with other USG departments and agencies to 
leverage all the instruments of national power against our adversaries' 
fait accompli strategies.

    42. Senator Hawley. General Milley, you wrote the foreword for the 
December 2018 Army publication titled, ``The U.S. Army in Multi-Domain 
Operations 2028.'' This publication states that ``Army forces must 
demonstrate four capabilities in competition to deter the adversary,'' 
the first of which is the ``[a]bility to immediately deny a fait 
accompli attack.'' Do you agree with the assessment in this document 
that Army forces must be able to ``immediately deny a fait accompli'' 
in order to demonstrate a credible deterrent?
    General Milley. Yes. Denying the adversary operational success on 
short timelines can be a critical component in a campaign to defeat a 
fait accompli attack. Joint warfare is team warfare and each of the 
Services--to include the Army--have important roles to play in the 
mission to deter and defeat a fait accompli attack. Credible deterrence 
happens when we have a military that, every day, convinces the 
adversary that it can disrupt the success of any initial attack, while 
preventing the adversary from consolidating its advances and 
establishing an effective defense.

    43. Senator Hawley. General Milley, the Department of Defense's 
2019 ``Indo-Pacific Strategy Report'' stated, ``If our competitors 
decide to advance their interests through force, they are likely to 
enjoy a local military advantage at the onset of conflict. In a fait 
accompli scenario, competitors would seek to employ their capabilities 
quickly to achieve limited objectives and forestall a response from the 
United States, and its allies and partners. DOD initiatives on force 
employment, crisis response, force and concept development, and 
collaboration with allies and partners are aimed to help address this 
critical challenge.'' Do you agree with the Department's assessment in 
the ``Indo-Pacific Strategy Report'' that a ``fait accompli scenario'' 
is a ``critical challenge''?
    General Milley. Yes. The U.S. military underwrites the global 
commitments our Nation has made to both defending allies and partners 
under threat from adversary coercion, but also the rules-based 
international order that that reflects our interests and values 
globally. As the PRC adapts its forces in a bid to more effectively 
coerce its neighbors and deter the U.S. from engaging in the region, 
the Joint Force also needs to adapt its combat capabilities. This 
includes improvements in how we operate closely and in concert with 
Allies and partners to ensure that the PRC cannot quickly, cheaply, or 
easily advance their aims through military force.

    44. Senator Hawley. General Milley, the Tri-Service Maritime 
Strategy released by the United States Navy, United States Marine 
Corps, and United States Coast Guard in December 2020 stated, ``In the 
event of conflict, China and Russia will likely attempt to seize 
territory before the United States and its allies can mount an 
effective response--leading to a fait accompli. Each supports this 
approach through investments in counter-intervention networks. Each 
seeks to shift the burden of escalation by reinforcing annexed 
territory with long-range precision-strike weapons and make a military 
response to an invasion seem disproportionately costly.'' Do you agree 
with this assessment by Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard leadership?
    General Milley. Yes. Adversaries have invested heavily in counter-
intervention networks--sometimes referred to as ``anti-access, area 
denial'' capabilities. Basically, this means that adversaries are 
applying new long range precision weapons and other advanced 
capabilities to widen their defensive perimeter such that it holds the 
Joint Force at bay and allows their own operations to proceed without 
effective interference. They intend that their counter-intervention 
networks are so dense and comprehensive that the U.S. will be forced 
with a difficult choice about whether to commit the U.S. military in a 
presumably costly campaign to roll the adversary back.

    45. Senator Hawley. General Milley, Chief of Staff of the Army 
General James McConville released Chief of Staff Paper #1, ``Army 
Multi-Domain Transformation,'' in March 2021. In this document, he 
states, ``Our adversaries will attempt to achieve their strategic goals 
without fighting, or to seize their objectives quickly as a fait 
accompli.'' Do you agree with General McConville's assessment?
    General Milley. Yes. Adversaries would prefer that they achieve 
their objectives--and that the United States loses--without having to 
fight at all. For this reason, adversaries work tirelessly to develop 
advantages early. They take coercive actions against neighbors that 
they believe are effective but still remain below thresholds that might 
trigger a U.S. military response. Failing that, adversaries aim to move 
quickly and decisively to avoid a longer and potentially riskier 
conflict and convince the U.S. that attempting to reverse their 
military seizure would be costlier than our Nation is willing to bear.

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            Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy Tuberville
                             nuclear policy
    46. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Austin, there are reports that 
the Acting Secretary of the Navy would cancel a new Nuclear Sea 
Launched Cruise Missile after submission of the fiscal year 2022 
budget, and before a Nuclear Posture Review. Will you commit to 
postponing that decision until after the findings of the Nuclear 
Posture Review have been delivered to this body?
    Secretary Austin. The sea-launched cruise missile--nuclear (SLCM-N) 
program will be examined during the upcoming U.S. Nuclear Posture 
Review (NPR). As you know, the fiscal year 2022 budget request included 
a small amount of funding to evaluate the next steps for a potential 
nuclear sea-launched cruise missile program as proposed by the 2018 
Nuclear Posture Review. The upcoming review of U.S. nuclear posture and 
policy will re-examine if a nuclear sea-launched cruise missile is 
necessary for our national defense strategy.

                              afghanistan
    47. Senator Tuberville. General Milley, after 20 years we are 
leaving Afghanistan and with it, one of the world's largest airbases, 
Bagram Airfield. Is there any United States military aircraft that 
Bagram Airfield cannot accommodate?
    General Milley. At the height of our military operations in 
Afghanistan, Bagram Airfield could accommodate the largest aircraft in 
the United States inventory. As we prepare the airfield for the 
departure of U.S. Forces and the handover to the ANDSF, we have ceased 
the manning and contracts for the radar approach system and air traffic 
control. In addition, we can no longer ensure the upkeep of instrument 
approach systems. Collectively, these changes will limit the airfield 
to Visual Flight Rules (VFR), causing our aircraft to operate in `fair 
weather' conditions only.

    48. Senator Tuberville. General Milley, would you agree that an air 
base within 500 miles of both the Iranian and Chinese borders could be 
strategically invaluable?
    General Milley. An airbase located within 500 miles of both the 
Iranian and Chinese borders could provide strategic advantage. However, 
that advantage is only relevant within the overall framework of US 
policy and strategy. Our ability to militarily support US national 
security policy priorities will not be significantly curtailed by the 
absence of such an air base.

    49. Senator Tuberville. General Milley, what is the feasibility of 
retaining Bagram Airfield as a United States base?
    General Milley. President Biden has directed the withdrawal of 
United States Forces from Afghanistan by September 11. The withdrawal 
will include the transfer of Bagram Airfield to Afghan National Defense 
and Security Forces.

                               extremism
    50. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Austin, during the hearing, one 
of my colleagues claimed that 1 percent of those in the military are 
likely white supremacists. That would suggest that 35,000 members of 
the military might be white supremacists. Do you think this is 
accurate? Explain your answer.
    Secretary Austin. I believe that the vast majority of 
servicemembers, civilians, and contractors in DOD honor their oath to 
support and defend the U.S. Constitution, and these individuals perform 
their duties with integrity. However, as we have seen, the actions of a 
few can have an outsized impact--which is why the Department of Defense 
prohibits extremist activity such as the use of unlawful force or 
violence to achieve goals that are discriminating in nature.

    51. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Austin, do you believe that 
accusations like the one above hinders the enlistment of minorities or 
white members? Explain your answer.
    Secretary Austin. As stated previously, I believe the vast majority 
of servicemembers, civilians, and contractors in DOD honor their oath 
to support and defend the U.S. Constitution, and perform their duties 
with integrity.

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL EAR 2022 AND THE 
                      FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                              ARMY POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m., in 
room SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Rosen, Kelly, 
Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, 
Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. The Committee meets today to receive 
testimony on the President's Defense Budget Request for the 
Army for fiscal year 2022. Our witnesses this morning are 
Christine Wormuth, Secretary of the Army, and General James 
McConville, Chief of Staff of the Army. Thank you both for your 
service and willingness to appear before us today. I would 
also, on behalf of myself and my colleague, the Ranking Member, 
wish the Army a happy birthday. It turned 246 years old 
yesterday, and we were in it long before its 246th anniversary, 
so happy birthday.
    President Biden's Defense Budget Request for fiscal year 
2022 includes approximately $172.7 billion in funding for the 
Army, a reduction of $3.6 billion from the fiscal year 2021 
enacted budget. The Army's request focuses on taking care of 
its people, maintaining and enhancing military readiness, and 
innovating and modernizing, but it does so in the face of these 
significant reductions. Budget briefings indicate that the Army 
budget decreased while the budgets of the Air Force and Navy 
increased, primarily because of the focus on China as our 
pacing threat, and the decision to withdraw from Afghanistan. 
The Army has thus prepared a tightly crafted budget that 
prioritizes modernization efforts over procurement and military 
construction. With that in mind, I am interested in hearing 
about the Army's view of the mission globally, especially in 
the INDOPACOM [United States Indo-Pacific Command] theater, now 
and in the future. Further, we would like to understand the 
risk the Army is assuming with current funding projections.
    The Army's most valuable asset has always been its people. 
This budget request would increase funding for military 
personnel by $1.2 billion and support a total force of just 
over one million soldiers. It also includes adjustments for 
retirement compensation reform, recruiting and retention 
incentives, and an across-the-board pay raise for military and 
civilian personnel of 2.7 percent, an important message to the 
workforce that begins to reverse years of pay freezes and 
benefit cuts on our civilian personnel.
    The Army must continue to improve its readiness in the 
context of long-term strategic competition. The Army's ongoing 
focus on large training exercises, including the Defender 
series in Europe and the Pacific, and its leadership in the 
Project Convergence series, demonstrate progress in the right 
direction. These large-scale events not only test system 
capabilities and exercise critical skill sets to include 
mobilization and deployment of the force, they also facilitate 
joint and coalition training, reflecting how we would fight in 
future operations. The Army has also introduced the Regionally 
Aligned Readiness and Modernization Model, or ReARMM, to 
synchronize all Army components across regions and provide 
predictability to the formations within the service: regular 
Army, National Guard, and Army Reserves. This effort has great 
promise, and I would ask our witnesses to elaborate on how the 
budget request supports ReARMM and the Army's other important 
readiness exercises and efforts.
    The Army's budget request includes an overall decrease in 
research, development, testing, and evaluation, RDT&E, but 
makes important increases in several cutting-edge technology 
areas. To remain competitive with China and Russia, it is 
critical that we continue to invest in these emerging 
technologies which will define future battlefields across all 
domains. The Army specifically has been pursuing modernization 
in the areas of long-range precision fires, air and missile 
defense, soldier lethality, next-generation combat vehicles, 
future vertical lift, and the communications network. These are 
ambitious and far-sighted objectives, but we must acknowledge 
that the Army has historically struggled to effectively 
modernize.
    The establishment of Army Futures Command, and the 
associated reorganization of related commands, injected 
tremendous energy into modernization efforts, and Congress has 
provided the Army with wide latitude to make programmatic and 
structural changes. Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, I 
would ask that you update the Committee on the Army's 
modernization and RDT&E efforts and what resources are needed 
to effectively continue them.
    Finally, as I said at the opening, the Army is 
fundamentally about people. In previous hearings before this 
Committee, you have both committed to the Army being a ``People 
First'' organization, not just for soldiers, but their 
families, Army civilians, and veterans. For too long, issues 
such as racism, extremism, sexual harassment, and sexual 
assault have, in too many instances, gone unchecked. As we 
progress through this legislative year, the Committee will 
tackle many important policy issues, including how we prevent 
and prosecute sexual assault and harassment in the ranks. More 
than anything, cultural change within the force is critical to 
reducing the number of sexual assaults and related offenses. 
The President directed a review earlier this year, and I know 
the Department and the Army have been hard at work. I plan to 
incorporate the administration's recommendations into the mark 
and look forward to debate and votes on the issue.
    Again, I thank the witnesses for their participation today, 
and I look forward to their testimonies.
    Now let me now recognize the Ranking Member, Senator 
Inhofe.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Reed. Ms. 
Wormuth and General McConville, thank you for being here today 
and for all the great contributions you have made for our 
safety in this country. I also want to recognize the 246th 
birthday. I will not tell you what the first birthday in the 
United States Army was that I celebrated. Well, yes, I will. It 
was the 172nd. I imagine it would have been a happier birthday 
had the Army fared better in the President's Fiscal Year 2022 
Budget Request.
    As I have often said, the world is the most dangerous place 
that I have experienced certainly in my lifetime, and we face a 
wide range of adversaries, the most dangerous of which are an 
increasingly aggressive China and belligerent Russia. At the 
same time, we must contend with rogue nations like Iran and 
North Korea, as well as violent extremist organizations.
    Our strategic competitors have gone to school on the 
American way of war, and they are rapidly modernizing their 
militaries to exploit our vulnerabilities. China and Russia 
combined are spending more to modernize their militaries than 
we are. This is something that we have not been able to say 
before.
    This request is a cut to defense, and the Army is bearing 
the brunt of it. This seems to always be the case every time an 
administration tries to cut defense, and yet, every time we cut 
the Army, we end up reversing those cuts soon after. It is a 
shortsighted approach that fails to recognize the strategic 
value the Army provides.
    With this budget, the Army's top line decreases by $4 
billion from the previous year, putting at risk the gains in 
readiness made after we hit rock bottom in 2017.
    Procurement funding decreases $4.2 billion, a debilitating 
11 percent cut, and military construction is cut by 15 percent. 
As we watch our strategic competitors make unprecedented 
investments in modernization, cuts like this just do not make 
sense.
    So I look forward to understanding from our witnesses the 
impact of these cuts on the readiness and modernization of the 
Army, and how it could risk the Army's ability to accomplish 
assigned tasks from the National Defense Strategy. Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, Senator Inhofe, 
and let me now recognize the Secretary of the Army, Secretary 
Wormuth. Madam?

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE CHRISTINE E. WORMUTH, SECRETARY OF 
                            THE ARMY

    Secretary Wormuth. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, and distinguished Members of the Committee. Thank you 
for your continued support for our Army and our people. It is a 
distinct privilege to appear before you today. I would like to 
take a moment to thank General McConville for his lifetime of 
service to the Army and to our Nation. He is a great partner 
and we are off to a running start.
    I am honored to be serving as Secretary of the Army and to 
be working with Secretary Austin and Deputy Secretary Hicks 
once again. I thank them for their continued leadership.
    As I have stepped into the role, all of 3 weeks, I am 
impressed but not surprised to see the state of the Army and 
the professionalism, hard work, and continued sacrifice of our 
soldiers and leaders that make up the world's greatest land 
fighting force. I would like to highlight a few key 
observations on the state of our Army as I see them today.
    First, the Army must continue to heavily invest in the 
development of its people. People are the strength of our Army. 
We are steadily working to enhance our force structure, build 
inclusive leadership, and invest in quality-of-life 
initiatives. Like my predecessors, I can assure you that the 
character, culture, and climate within our formations, at every 
installation, will reflect a continued focus on placing people 
first. The harmful behaviors of sexual assault and harassment, 
racism, and extremism cannot and will not be tolerated.
    We will purposefully work to stem the tide of suicides. Our 
responsibility is to ensure every soldier and civilian has the 
right leadership policies and resources to be safe and 
successful among their teams so that they can continue to be 
successful in our Nation's defense.
    Second, the Army is now a leader in new technology. From 
our Army Futures Command to the cross-functional teams to the 
Rapid Capabilities and Critical Technologies Office on down to 
fielding the next-generation soldier equipment for individual 
unit members, the Army is prototyping and experimenting with 
new capabilities and concepts. The Army is at the forefront of 
developing and fielding new technology in counter-UAS, directed 
energy, hypersonic weapons, next-generation assured positioning 
navigation and timing devices, pushing software coding to the 
edge, and in many other areas.
    Third, the Army is opening doors in the Indo-Pacific, 
Europe, and beyond. The Army can be relied upon to engage with 
our allies, foster partnerships, maintain deterrence, and set 
conditions for success prior to, or while engaging in conflict. 
Deterrence requires boots on the ground, and the DOD 
[Department of Defense] must be present to succeed in crises. 
The Army is recognized around the world as an enduring, 
reliable partner that can directly contribute by bringing 
resources, training, and expertise. Our partnerships can lay 
the groundwork for access and cooperation in contingencies.
    Fourth, the next fight will be an all-domain conflict. 
Future conflict will be in and across all domains with ground 
forces to secure terrain, penetrate defenses, and achieve 
objectives. The Army's transformation is directly aimed at 
supporting joint warfighting that will depend on joint all-
domain command control, expeditionary joint logistics, and 
joint maneuver across domains. As the Army continues to 
modernize, we will maintain our overmatch against near-peer 
adversaries, helping make future conflict less likely by 
ensuring the costs to our adversaries outweigh the benefits.
    Finally, the Army's readiness gains in modernization 
procurement requirements must be prioritized to continue. The 
Army recognized years ago the need to modernize concepts and 
capabilities to sharpen our global competitive edge. Working in 
close coordination with you and Congress, we established a 
deliberate, achievable path to deliver a ready, modernized 
Army. Significant progress has been made, but success can only 
be assured through future and continued transformation. The 
Army has already made, and will continue to make tough 
decisions to ensure the best use of the resources we have to 
adapt to and to stay ahead of the capabilities of our 
adversaries, whether they are near-peer nations or newly 
emerging threats. The Army will also compete successfully below 
the threshold of conflict.
    The President's Budget will help us to care for our people, 
maintain and enhance military readiness, and innovate and 
modernize. With your continued support we will pivot to next-
generation capabilities to assure we can win now and in the 
future.
    From what I have seen our Army is in great shape, but we 
have important work ahead. I want to use this window of 
opportunity to make certain that the Army will continue to 
provide modernized and ready forces capable of responding 
globally. I join General McConville in striving to ensure we 
provide the Army with the resources it needs to succeed. I know 
General McConville is eager to share his thoughts with you as 
well, and I look forward to your questions and our continued 
partnership. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Madam Secretary. General 
McConville, please.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL JAMES P. McCONVILLE, USA, CHIEF OF STAFF 
                          OF THE ARMY

    General McConville. Well, I would like to thank the 
Secretary for leading our Army during this critical time. 
Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, distinguished Members of 
the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to be here today 
and for your continued support to the Army and our people, our 
soldiers, our families, our civilians, and our Soldiers for 
Life, our retirees, and veterans.
    The Army currently has 485,000 Active Duty soldiers and a 
little more than 1 million in the total force. That is roughly 
the same size Army that we had on 9/11. Army soldiers are 
presently supporting combatant commanders around the world in 
more than 140 countries. They form the most lethal and decisive 
land force in the world, and they stand ready to fight and win 
the Nation's wars as part of the Joint Force. I could not be 
more proud of each and every one of them.
    Since last October, the Army's priorities have been people, 
readiness, and modernization, making us well aligned with the 
emerging national security guidance. Putting people first means 
recruiting and retaining the best talent our Nation has to 
offer, maximizing their potential, and taking care of them. We 
are building a culture of cohesive teams that are highly 
trained, disciplined, and fit, where everyone is treated with 
dignity and respect. That is who we prevent the harmful 
behaviors that hurt our soldiers and break trust with the 
American people, these being sexual assault and harassment, 
acts of racism and extremism, and death by suicide.
    All three of my children, two sons and a daughter, plus my 
son-in-law, are currently serving in the Army.
    Providing a safe and secure environment for our soldiers is 
not only my responsibility as the Chief of Staff of the Army, 
it is also a deeply held personal commitment. We win through 
our people, the best fighting forces in the world, to ensure 
that soldiers and their units are masters of their craft. This 
is why we are shifting to a foundational readiness model that 
prioritizes training at the company level and below first. The 
Army has rebuilt a high level of readiness with the support of 
Congress, but that readiness level is fragile. We must sustain 
that high level of readiness while continuing our most 
comprehensive transformation and modernization efforts in over 
40 years. That is the only way we will maintain our overmatch 
against near-peer competitors and would-be adversaries.
    This year we are turning our multi-domain operations 
concepts into real doctrine. We are not only developing but we 
are delivering our six modernization priorities, including our 
31+4 signature systems. With new doctrine, organizations, and 
equipment, the Army is offering multiple options to our 
combatant commanders and multiple dilemmas to our competitors 
and adversaries. We are doing so alongside our sister services 
and alongside our allies and partners. The U.S. Army never 
fights alone. We are the strongest land force in the world, and 
a great source of that strength comes from our allies and 
partners. As a people-based organization, we are uniquely 
qualified to foster these relationships.
    Thank you for your continued support to America's sons and 
daughters in uniform. I look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of Secretary Wormuth and 
General McConville follows:]

  Joint Prepared Statement by The Honorable Christine E. Wormuth and 
                      General James P. McConville
                           evolved priorities
    America's Army remains prepared to compete globally and fight and 
win the Nation's wars as a member of the Joint Force. As demonstrated 
repeatedly over the past year, we also remain the Nation's principal 
response force to protect our country and communities in the face of 
unexpected crises. We thank Congress for the consistent, predictable, 
and sustained funding you have provided. This funding enabled us to 
deliver a ready Army that responded promptly and superbly to a dynamic 
and unpredictable security environment, like the COVID-19 pandemic, 
Middle East tensions, civil unrest, cyberattacks, and south-west border 
mission. Our priorities are well aligned with the Interim National 
Security Strategic Guidance: investing in people, sustaining readiness, 
divesting of legacy systems to reinvest in cutting edge technologies 
and capabilities, mitigating the impact of climate change, and 
strengthening our alliances and partnerships.
    Last October, the Army evolved its priorities to people, readiness, 
and modernization. This evolution reflects the achievements of a multi-
year effort to rebuild readiness and accelerate modernization. Six 
years ago, we recognized that readiness had declined precipitously 
after years of reduced funding, uncertain budgets, and deferred 
modernization. We also recognized the need for new concepts, 
capabilities, and posture to compete aggressively in the Indo-Pacific 
and Europe. With your support, we rebuilt tactical readiness in our 
units and built strategic readiness in our power projection 
infrastructure. We deliberately executed internal reforms over the last 
four years by realigning over $35 billion within the Army budget to 
self-fund modernization priorities in support of joint all-domain 
operations.
    Thanks to your continued support for Army modernization, we are 
successfully pivoting from the incremental improvements of the past to 
fulfilling the robust Army Modernization Strategy that Congress 
prescribed in the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act. Because of 
this strategy, and new Congressional authorities to streamline the 
acquisitions process, we are already beginning to field new systems in 
long-range precision fires, air and missile defense, and soldier 
lethality, with more on the way in next generation combat vehicles, 
future vertical lift, and the Army network. With these modernization 
capabilities, we are able to deliver multi-domain concepts,
    capabilities, and formations that will give the Joint Force 
asymmetric, all-domain advantages against near-peer potential 
adversaries. Our gains are real, but fragile. With Congressional 
support, we established a deliberate achievable path to deliver a ready 
and modernized Army by 2028 and a transformed multi-domain Army by 
2035. However, sustaining today's readiness and modernizing for 
tomorrow's readiness is only possible through your timely, adequate, 
predictable, and sustained funding.
                         strategic environment
    A dynamic global security landscape continues to challenge our 
Nation. These challenges include: (1) borderless threats, like COVID, 
cyber, violent extremism, and climate change; (2) the global siege on 
democracy to include an increasingly contested information environment; 
and (3) the changing distribution of global power that draws new lines 
and value propositions for many of our allies and partners. These 
challenges require an agile, ready, modern, and multi-domain Army that 
works alongside strong allies and partners. Strategic competitors and 
regional actors are testing American norms, institutions, and 
alliances. China, our pacing threat, increases its global 
assertiveness, while Russia increases its disruptive behavior. Threats 
from Iran, North Korea, and violent extremism and terrorism remain. 
While America's Army maintains a tenuous overmatch, it is fleeting. 
Future conflicts will manifest at longer range, across all domains, and 
at much greater speed, both physically and cognitively.
    Climate change is altering the Army's operational environment and 
adding new mission demands; mitigating these effects has been an 
ongoing priority for the Army for several years. Climate change impacts 
Army installations globally and opens the Arctic as a new geographic 
theater for competition. The Army must consider alternative energy 
sources, improved energy storage, fuel-efficient design, more robust 
power distribution, and new technologies, such as weather pattern and 
terrain stability modeling to better inform operations.
    The Army must also contend with threats from within. The harmful 
behaviors of sexual assault, sexual harassment, racism, and extremism 
hurt Soldiers and break trust with the American people. The Army is 
working diligently to solidify a culture of cohesion and intervention 
to protect our Soldiers, not only from the deliberate fratricide of 
these behaviors, but from the invisible danger of mental and behavioral 
health issues, and other stressors that can increase the risk of 
suicide.
                              people first
    Listening to Soldiers led to our very deliberate decision to re-
align our priorities. The Army's number one priority is now people. Our 
people are our Soldiers from the Active, Guard, and Reserve components, 
Army families, Army civilians, and retiree and veteran Soldiers for 
Life. At every echelon, the Army must promote and build cohesive teams 
(1) that are highly trained, disciplined, and fit, (2) that are ready 
to fight and win, and (3) in which each person is treated with dignity 
and respect. Cohesive teams are the foundation of all our people 
initiatives and how the Army can best sustain readiness and transform 
for the future. Three critical enablers from the 2019 Army People 
Strategy continue to set conditions for putting people first: Army 
Culture, Quality of Life initiatives, and a 21st Century Talent 
Management System.
Army Culture
    Last December, the Army stood up the People First Task Force to 
address and implement the 70 Fort Hood Independent Review Committee 
recommendations, with the understanding that the issues identified are 
not unique to a single installation. Army leaders are stewards of a 
special bond of trust and confidence with the American people. We held 
accountable those leaders deemed to have broken that trust. We have 
fundamentally transformed our command selection process in order to 
improve the way we choose future leaders to assume positions with the 
most influence over Soldiers. We are piloting independent climate 
assessment teams of subject matter experts to identify unit climate 
trends early and respond before systemic problems emerge. We are 
listening to our people to learn and lead better. We conducted 96 
listening sessions across 14 locations in addition to a special 
``Solarium'' conference that asked junior- and mid-career leaders to 
develop solutions. The Army is now working to change policies and 
aspects of Army culture that impede prevention and response to harmful 
behaviors. The first policy change introduced ``absent--unknown'', an 
additional duty status code which affords missing Soldiers oversight 
not present in ``Absent Without Leave (AWOL).''
    ``This is My Squad'' is the foundational principle for Army 
culture. This initiative, led by the Sergeant Major of the Army, 
promotes cohesion by encouraging Soldiers to better know those around 
them, develop greater compassion, and intervene early to protect 
others. Implementation actions include increased non-commissioned 
officer professional military education, redistribution of experienced 
leaders, and better reception processes for integrating new Soldiers at 
each installation and unit.
    Project Inclusion is a holistic effort to improve diversity, 
equity, and inclusion across the force. As of March of this year, the 
Army had conducted 83 Project Inclusion listening sessions with over 
4,700 attendees. Separately, the Army reviewed its policy on official 
photos and removed official photos from all promotion boards. The Army 
later redacted race, ethnicity, and gender data from Soldier Record 
Briefs in accordance with the Secretary of Defense's direction. The 
Army is building relationships with influencers in diverse cities and 
communities to better acquire, develop, employ, and retain the best 
talent across the entire Nation.
Quality of Life (QoL) Initiatives
    Putting people first also means creating a duty and installation 
environment that allows Soldiers to thrive. The Army continues to 
prioritize the QoL focus areas identified in 2019. The COVID era only 
reinforced how essential each of those initiatives is to the well-being 
and readiness of our Soldiers and their families.
    Housing and Barracks. We continue executing the Army Housing 
Campaign Plan to shape policies, procedures, and processes at every 
echelon. The Army implemented 14 of the 18 tenets of the Tenant Bill of 
Rights in its Residential Communities Initiatives (RCI) projects. We 
expect the remaining four (common tenant lease, 7-year maintenance 
history, dispute resolution and rent segregation) to be available at 
the majority of installations with privatized housing by June 1, 2021. 
We implemented mechanisms that hold privatized companies accountable to 
residents for proper maintenance and customer service, hired additional 
personnel to provide quality assurance oversight, and implemented 100 
percent change of occupancy inspections and quality assurance checks. 
To address environmental hazards (mold and lead), we developed 
educational materials, a response registry, and policies for 
habitability and displaced residents. Through the RCI, we are 
committing over $1.8 billion and reinvesting another $1 billion to 
improve residential housing. Additionally, the Army is projected to 
invest over $10 billion in the next 10 years, in both Restoration & 
Modernization and Military Construction funds, which will renovate or 
replace more than 1,200 barracks for all components and eliminate sub-
standard barracks.
    Healthcare. Army Medicine is partnering with the Defense Health 
Agency to deliver the best care for our beneficiaries across our 
installations. We are focusing on readiness as the Military Health 
System reforms. We will emphasize operationally oriented training, 
modernized capabilities, and innovative operational concepts. We are 
grateful to Congress for increases in Health Professional Officer 
special pay caps. This necessary investment ensures Army Medicine can 
recruit and retain the best quality healthcare professionals for the 
sustainability of the force.
    Childcare. Childcare professionals serve on the front line of the 
Army's response to the COVID-19 pandemic as they allow mission 
essential personnel to maintain Army readiness. The Army has a multi-
pronged strategy to maintain, and in some cases, increase access to 
care. With continued Congressional support, we plan to build 21 
additional Child Development Centers by fiscal year 2030, adding 
approximately 4,000 spaces. We appreciate Congressional support for the 
three centers funded in fiscal year 2021, two in Hawaii and one in 
Alaska. We continue to invest in these professionals, adjusting 
compensation to recruit and retain quality staff. We are incentivizing 
the family child care program, like a $1,000 bonus for new providers 
and for families that stay in the program after a move. We implemented 
revised DOD priorities for childcare to grant more access to military 
families. Finally, we continue to invest in fee assistance to buy down 
the cost of off-post care when on-post care is unavailable.
    Spouse Employment. With the support of Congress, the Army continues 
to make improvements in spouse employment. The Army reimburses up to 
$1,000 for professional licensing and certification in a new state, 
with Army Emergency Relief offering an additional $2,500. We thank 
Congress for its efforts to bolster the support of individual states in 
granting reciprocity. We streamlined the Home-Based Business 
application and approval system, improved policies for military spouse 
hiring preference, strengthened the Employment Readiness Program, and 
made the transfer of non-appropriated fund employees between 
installations easier. We continue to work with the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense (OSD) to promote workforce development 
scholarships, improve state license reciprocity and professional 
license compacts, and reduce overseas employment barriers.
    Permanent Change of Station (PCS) Moves. Soldiers are now receiving 
PCS orders an average of 120 days before their report date, an 
improvement of 30 to 90 days. Families can now claim 100 percent of 
their costs for reimbursement when conducting a personally procured 
move. Our development and launch of the ``Army PCS Move'' app and 
automation of several business processes, including the Smart Voucher 
program, are helping families research, book movers, track progress, 
and file claims, expediting reimbursement. Though COVID-19 heavily 
impacted last summer's peak PCS season, we still executed over 70,000 
moves with a 95 percent satisfaction rate.
    21st Century Talent Management System
    The Army continues to refine and implement its 21st Century Talent 
Management System in order to effectively acquire, develop, employ, and 
retain talent. We are maximizing the potential of each Soldier. We are 
evolving our marketing and recruiting with initiatives like Army Hiring 
Days and the ``What's Your Warrior?'' campaign to bring in the best 
talent from across the country, including cities and communities with 
populations who may be unfamiliar with the opportunities military 
service affords. This year the Army launched cutting-edge digital 
talent initiatives. Our Army Artificial Intelligence Center partners 
with Carnegie Mellon University to grow data engineers and data 
technicians, while our Software Factory leverages the extraordinary 
existing talent in our Army to grow coders to solve Army problems.
    At the heart of the Army's 21st Century Talent Management System 
are new approaches, systems, and processes that leverage deep data 
about unit needs and Soldier knowledge, skills, behaviors, and 
preferences. The Integrated Personnel and Pay System--Army (IPPS-A) is 
on track to go live across all three components by the end of this 
calendar year. Release 2 is complete, having brought IPPS-A to the Army 
National Guard across 54 states and territories. Release 3, currently 
in testing, will integrate the Active and Reserve forces and complete 
the Army's transition to a single system across all components capable 
of identifying needed talent and managing Soldier careers from 
accession to transition.
    Talent management starts with having the right Army leaders at the 
battalion and brigade-level. These are the Army's most consequential 
leadership positions in terms of affecting retention and attrition. In 
the biggest change to the Army's command selection process in fifty 
years, the Army now uses a Commander Assessment Program to select 
future battalion and brigade commanders, as well as command sergeants 
major. This intensive five-day program evaluates individuals for their 
temperament, cognitive fitness, physical health, and leadership skills. 
We are also expanding to build a system to assess and select our Army 
Acquisition Corps civilians at the same echelons. We are putting the 
right people in the right place at the right time to remain ready 
today.
                              ready today
    The Army stands ready today to compete globally and fight and win 
the Nation's wars in support of the Joint Force. This is only because 
we recognized six years ago that readiness had declined precipitously 
after three years of reduced funding and uncertain budgets. Since then, 
and funding from Congress, we rebuilt tactical readiness and built 
strategic readiness. However, readiness is fragile. We require 
continued support to maintain it, in order to reliably meet the needs 
of combatant commands without overstressing our people.
    People are the Army's most important weapon system. The Army 
represents 25 percent of the Defense Budget, 35 percent of the Active 
Force, and 45 percent of the Active and Reserve forces, but meets over 
half of global demands. Today, the Total Army supports the Joint Force 
by supplying Soldiers to combatant commanders in more than 140 
countries. Over 69,000 Soldiers are in the Indo-Pacific, including over 
25,000 forward deployed on the Korean peninsula. Over 30,000 soldiers 
are in Europe supporting NATO and the European Deterrence Initiative, 
including the forward command post of our newly reactivated V Corps. We 
remain dedicated to our counterterrorism and train, advise, assist 
missions, providing over 21,000 soldiers in support of the U.S. Central 
Command theater. In our Nation's Capital this year, over 26,000 
National Guard soldiers mobilized from 28 states to assist with medical 
evacuation, communications, security, logistics and safety support. 
Last year, we executed 64 brigade-equivalent deployments and moved 45 
thousand pieces of equipment through 55 ports of embarkation/
debarkation in support of worldwide missions.
    This past year highlighted the need for the Army to defend the 
Nation at home as well as abroad. In response, the Army continually 
demonstrated its capability and capacity to provide timely and 
effective support in crisis. The COVID-19 pandemic expanded the Army's 
existing mission set as DOD's leader in protecting the warfighter from 
biological threats and investigating infectious diseases that threaten 
public health. Since last March, Army scientists, medical 
professionals, engineers, and logisticians from all components have 
deployed nationwide to aid COVID prevention and response efforts. For 
its vaccine development and distribution initiative, America turned to 
an Army logistician to lead operations. Our National Guard and Reserve 
units across America supported both neighbor and nation in an 
unprecedented level of mobilization, not only for COVID support, but in 
response to civil unrest, hurricanes, and wildfires, all while 
continuing to train for wartime missions.
    In 2020, the Army demonstrated strategic readiness through its 
series of DEFENDER exercises, despite the constraints of a pandemic 
environment. Strategic readiness involves installation capabilities to 
mobilize, train, and deploy formations and then sustain them from the 
Homeland. DEFENDER-Pacific 2020 witnessed the deployment of combat 
credible forces across the breadth of the Indo-Pacific theater from 
Guam and Palau to the Aleutian Island chain and mainland Alaska. Under 
the command and control of U.S. Army Pacific, combined joint forces 
executed strategic readiness operations that included cargo delivery, 
forcible entry operations, rapid infiltration of High Mobility 
Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), operational maneuver of Army 
watercraft, and fighter combat patrols. DEFENDER-Europe 2021 is 
currently underway with over 30,000 multinational forces from 27 
nations conducting nearly simultaneous operations across 30 training 
areas. This year's exercise will incorporate Security Force Assistance 
Brigades, the Army's new V Corps, and U.S. Air Force and
    Navy assets. DEFENDER-Europe 21 is led by the Army's newly 
consolidated United States Army Europe and Africa Command.
    The foundation of Army readiness is our people. The Army is moving 
to a foundational readiness model that prioritizes the training of 
individuals and small units at the company level and below. The best 
combat units in the world ensure their individuals and small units are 
masters of their craft. To foster individual readiness, the Army is 
also investing in holistic health and fitness. We continue to study the 
impact of the Army Combat Fitness Test in accordance with Congressional 
guidance in order to better connect individual fitness with combat 
readiness. A solid foundation of readiness enables unit agility and 
provides the greatest return on an investment of limited time and 
resources. We will continue to use the combat training centers to bring 
these highly trained, disciplined, and fit teams together for large-
scale collective training that validates the combat effectiveness of 
our battalions and brigades.
    The Army must balance the continuous demand for current readiness 
from combatant command requirements with the imperative to secure 
future readiness, all without overly stressing our people or our 
equipment. To this end, the Army developed, tested, and rehearsed a new 
unit lifecycle model that will go into effect October 2021: the 
Regionally Aligned Readiness and Modernization Model (ReARMM). ReARMM 
will harmonize historically conflicting Army priorities. It will take 
care of people by reducing operational tempo and maximizing 
predictability and stability to commanders, Soldiers, and families. 
ReARMM will sustain readiness by carving out dedicated windows for 
building readiness at echelon while aligning units with primary regions 
and functions. Regional alignment provides units deep wells of 
knowledge on the terrain, culture, and people where their units are 
most likely to operate. Joint force commanders also gain by leveraging 
habitual, trusted relationships between Army formations and Allies and 
partners. Finally, ReARMM will facilitate modernization by giving units 
dedicated windows to integrate new equipment, reorganize formations, 
and train on new doctrine. Adopting this model transitions the Army 
from small, incremental, evolutionary modernization of platforms to 
large-step modernization of our formations.
             army modernization--transforming for tomorrow
    The Army faces an inflection point that requires innovation, 
creativity, and entrepreneurship in the application of combat power. 
The battlefield is increasingly faster, more lethal, and more 
distributed. Overmatch will belong to the side that can make better 
decisions faster. To meet emerging challenges, the Army is transforming 
to provide the Joint Force with the speed, range, and convergence of 
cutting edge technologies that will generate the decision dominance and 
overmatch required to win the next fight. We are leading the way in 
developing and fielding advanced technology in support of the Joint 
Force.
    The Army's materiel modernization transformation--what we fight 
with--is based on the six modernization priorities announced in 2018: 
Long Range Precision Fires, Next Generation Combat Vehicle, Future 
Vertical Lift, the Army Network, Air and Missile Defense, and Soldier 
Lethality. The Army's conceptual transformation--how we fight--begins 
with our Multi-Domain Operations concept, which we are currently 
turning into doctrine. The Army is using Project Convergence, our 
campaign of learning and annual capstone event, to shape future 
concepts and capabilities. By 2035, the Army will realize its vision of 
a multi-domain force.
    The Army is committed to seeing our signature materiel 
modernization efforts through to completion. Many are coming on line 
according to, or ahead of, our accelerated development schedule and 
being delivered to our Soldiers. Through continuous reform efforts, we 
have been able to redirect scarce resources to these key modernization 
efforts; however, we could not achieve this without Congressional 
support and authorities. Army Futures Command is providing 
unprecedented unity of effort across the modernization enterprise, 
having changed our business model and culture through public-private 
partnerships and a focus on Soldier-centered design. This allows us to 
gain immediate operator feedback, accelerating the development process 
and ensuring new systems are effective in operational environments. 
These reforms, combined with early experimentation through Project 
Convergence, are paying significant dividends. Judicious use of Middle 
Tier Acquisition and Other Transaction Authorities enable progress from 
characteristics to fielded capabilities in as short as three years, 
versus the five to seven years it took just to prescribe requirements 
in the past.
Long Range Precision Fires
    Long range precision fires provide the capability to penetrate 
Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) environments, suppress air defenses and 
strike maritime targets at range from land, and establish our own A2/AD 
capability to open windows of opportunity for the Joint Force to 
exploit. In 2019, OSD directed the Army to develop a ground based long-
range hypersonic weapon. In fiscal year 2023, the Army will field the 
first Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW) firing battery. The Army is 
also developing a ground-launched, Mid-Range Capability that will 
complement the LRHW and the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) 
capabilities. The PrSM is on schedule to conduct its maximum range test 
in 3QFY21 and deliver 30 missiles in fiscal year 2023. It will provide 
greater range, lethality, and survivability at a lower cost per shot 
than ATACMS. The Extended Range Cannon Artillery remains on schedule 
for delivery in fiscal year 2023. It will establish overmatch against 
peer adversaries in the close and deep operational maneuver areas with 
an extended range out to 70km.
Next Generation Combat Vehicle
    Next generation combat vehicles will increase the firepower, speed, 
and survivability of land forces, allowing them to maneuver into 
positions of advantage in the future operational environment. After 
rebaselining the Optionally Manned Fighting Vehicle (OMFV) program last 
year, the Army issued the final request for proposal for the concept 
design phase on December 18, 2020. OMFV is an example of how our new 
acquisitions process enabled the Army to learn early and recover before 
programs become too big to fail. The Robotic Combat Vehicle (RCV) 
effort envisions an unmanned platform that provides decisive mobility, 
lethality, survivability, and increased situational awareness to 
formations. RCV will undergo increasingly rigorous experiments and 
capability demonstrations with a decision to procure by fiscal year 
2024. The Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) is an adaptable and more 
survivable multi-variant vehicle that replaces the 1960s era M113 
Family of Vehicles. Mobile Protected Firepower (MPF) is an armored 
combat vehicle that will provide, large caliber, long-range direct 
fires in support of Infantry Brigade Combat Teams. The first unit 
equipped with MPF will be in fiscal year 2025.
Future Vertical Lift
    Future Vertical Lift platforms and technologies increase the 
maneuverability, range, endurance, lethality, and survivability of Army 
aircraft, providing joint commanders with increased operational reach 
and effectiveness against near-peer competitors. Our new acquisitions 
process has put the onus on industry to innovate and invest early, 
allowing the Army to ``fly before we buy.'' The Future Armed 
Reconnaissance Aircraft (FARA) closes the gap left by retirement of the 
Vietnam-era Kiowa. Two prototypes will fly in fiscal year 2023 followed 
by a year-long flight demonstration. The Future Long Range Assault 
Aircraft (FLRAA) will replace the UH60 Blackhawk with increased speed, 
range, payload, and endurance. We expect initial FLRAA prototypes in 
fiscal year 2025. Future vertical lift will leverage advances in 
Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) technology to develop Air Launched 
Effects (ALE) with a wide array of payloads and extended communication 
mesh networks with a fielding plan in fiscal year 2024.
Army Network
    The Army network modernization underpins Project Convergence as the 
Army's contribution to Combined Joint All-Domain Command and Control. 
It provides necessary information technology (IT) infrastructure to 
link the right sensors to the right shooters through the appropriate 
command and control node. In fiscal year 2021, we will field more than 
150 units with new technologies while simultaneously developing the 
next capability set of equipment. The Army is also modernizing current 
Global Position System (GPS) receivers to meet current and emerging 
threats by providing the Joint Force with advanced assured precision, 
navigation and timing (APNT) systems. Included are modernized receivers 
that meet congressional mandates to transition to M-code GPS and 
integrate alternative APNT technologies for our ground combat 
platforms, dismounted Soldiers, precision weapons and munitions, and 
aviation systems. We are fielding the first generation mounted APNT 
systems to our forward deployed formations with a second generation 
ready not later than fiscal year 2023. Additionally, the Army continues 
to invest in space-based technologies that close operational gaps in 
deep sensing and targeting activities. We are coordinating with 
partners in the Intelligence Community and private industry to enhance 
Army access to Low Earth Orbit (LEO) space-based sensing and link with 
national-level capabilities to provide tactical-level sensor to shooter 
capability to combat formations.
Air and Missile Defense
    Air and missile defense capabilities defend the Joint Force, 
allies, and partners against manned and unmanned air and missile 
threats. The Army's integrated air and missile defense capabilities 
will protect joint forces from adversary aircraft, missiles, and drones 
to protect the force and enable operations. This includes both theater 
systems and tactical / short-range air defense like the Maneuver-Short 
Range Air Defense (M-SHORAD) which defeats aerial threats to the 
maneuver force with a mix of kinetic capabilities. The Rapid 
Capabilities and Critical Technologies Office (RCCTO) is developing a 
Directed Energy (DE) M-SHORAD variant that utilizes a 50kW class laser. 
We will field four DE prototypes for experimentation and further 
development. Indirect Fire Protection Capability (IFPC) will defend 
fixed and semi-fixed assets primarily against cruise missiles and 
Unmanned Aircraft Systems as well as fixed and rotary wing aircraft. 
Based on the authorization in the 2021 NDAA, the Army is currently 
preparing two Iron Dome batteries for operational deployment at the end 
of fiscal year 2022. This spring the Army will conduct a shoot-off to 
inform our decision on the enduring IFPC solution. RCCTO is also 
working on two IFPC variants, a High Energy Laser (HEL) and a High-
Powered Microwave (HPM). The IFPC-HEL uses a 300kW-class HEL to defeat 
Rocket, Artillery, and Mortar (RAM) threats and is on track for 
demonstration. The IFPC-High-Powered Microwave is being developed with 
the Air Force to produce the Tactical High Power Microwave Operational 
Responder (THOR) in fiscal year 2021 with a prototype expected in 
fiscal year 2024. The Integrated Air and Missile Defense Battle Command 
System (IBCS) initial operational capability is 3QFY22 with fielding. 
IBCS is a revolutionary command-and-control system that streamlines 
sensor to shooter linkages for air and missile defense engagements--and 
once fielded with enable optimized employment of the Patriot force. 
This enhanced tracking system delivers an unambiguous view of the 
operating environment, allowing commanders and air defenders to make 
critical decisions within seconds. The Lower-Tier Air and Missile 
Defense Sensor (LTAMDS) will deliver the next generation sensor that 
leverages the capabilities of the Patriot Missile Segment Enhanced 
(MSE) interceptor and is fully integrated into IBCS.
Soldier Lethality
    Soldier Lethality improvements to weapons, sensors, body armor, and 
training will deliver decision dominance and overmatch at the level 
where it matters most-, allowing individual Soldiers to quickly 
understand and react to emerging situations. With ReARMM, we are 
incorporating Guard and Reserve units into the fielding schedule much 
earlier and more broadly than in past modernization efforts. The Army 
seeks continued Congressional support for the rapid prototyping, 
development, and procurement of the Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) 
Rifle and Automatic Rifle, Enhanced Night Vision Goggles (ENVG), 
Integrated Visual Augmentation System (IVAS)--Heads-Up Display (HUD) 
3.0, and the Synthetic Training Environment (STE). By 1QFY22, we'll 
equip the first unit with IVAS. In 4QFY22, we will equip the first unit 
with the Next Gen Squad Weapon Rifle and Automatic Rifle, as well as 
General Purpose Ammo. STE efforts that complement IVAS include the 
Squad Immersive Virtual Trainer (as part of IVAS) and the STE 
Information System that includes: One World Terrain, Training 
Simulation Software, and Training Management Tools.
    In addition to our six priorities, the Army understands the need 
for considerable investment in long-term research to deliver science 
and technology solutions. The Army is aligning its laboratories towards 
modernization and partnering with over 250 research institutions. The 
Army's priority research areas are: disruptive energetics, Radio 
Frequency (RF) electronic materials, quantum research, hypersonic 
flight, artificial intelligence, autonomy, synthetic biology, material 
by design, and advanced manufacturing.
    The Army is also investing in deep sensing and analysis to provide 
intelligence support to long range precision fires and commanders' 
situational awareness during Joint All-Domain Operations. We will 
continue to drive intelligence modernization by acquiring capabilities 
and capacities across the Space, Aerial, Terrestrial, and Foundation 
Layers nested with and in support of the Army's six modernization 
priorities.
    We will continue to leverage the Intelligence Community (IC), other 
Services', and commercial partner enterprise-level Intelligence, 
Surveillance, and Reconnaissance collection programs to provide timely, 
accurate, and relevant intelligence to support Army targeting efforts 
and enhance commanders' decision making.
    The Army is not just modernizing concepts and materiel. We require 
continued budget support to modernize infrastructure and execute 
workload in our Organic Industrial Base (OIB) of depots, arsenals, and 
ammunition plants, along with our power projection and Mobilization 
Force Generation Installations to better project power from and into 
contested environments. We must be able to address the risk of new and 
emerging cyber, information, and physical threats that can thwart our 
ability to project power by disrupting installation operational 
capabilities and the supply chains supporting our forces, whether from 
malign actors or nature. Our installations must be resilient to 
disruption and modernized in support of the modernized Army force. The 
Army is investing significant time and resources to mitigate the 
effects of climate change on our installations. We are establishing 
energy and water resilience, efficiency, and affordability across our 
installation enterprise. In the past five years, energy programs, 
partnerships and initiatives recognized a cost avoidance or savings of 
more than 14 percent, every installation has added a full-time energy 
manager position, and 16 of 26 Army OIB depots, arsenals and ammunition 
plants have transitioned from fossil fuels to clean energy 
alternatives. We are also partnering with private industry to implement 
energy and utility savings contracts that maximize the latest 
technology to drive efficiency and reduced costs, with 99 agreements 
currently in execution.
    The Army is also not modernizing in a vacuum, but in partnership 
with our sister Services. We have completed two Army-Air Force 
Warfighter Talks and one Army-Air Force-Navy joint session to ensure 
the Army's Project Convergence initiatives remains synchronized with 
the Air Force's Advanced Battle Management System and the Navy's 
Project Overmatch to meet the unique needs of each Service. As we work 
to stand-up a Multi-Domain Task Force (MDTF) in Europe later this year, 
our Indo-Pacific aligned MDTF continues to synchronize effects with the 
Joint Force during multiple exercises. The MDTF's All-Domain Operations 
Center enables Joint training, to include hosting
    Carrier Strike Group-3 for the Navy's Fleet Synthetic Training--
Joint exercise and connecting to the Navy's Continuous Training 
Environment network. During INDOPACOM's Pacific Fury 21, the MDTF 
validated its ability to virtually synchronize long range fires and 
effects with the Joint Force. The MDTF will participate in 
USINDOPACOM's upcoming Northern Edge and Joint All Domain Command and 
Control (JADC2) Simulation Experiment (SIMEX) in May before rotating 
into the Indo-Pacific later this summer to participate in joint 
exercises with PACAF, PACFLT, and MARFORPAC.
                strengthening alliances and partnerships
    America does not fight alone. Alliances and partnerships are among 
the greatest sources of our military strength. This global landpower 
network is DOD's foundation for competition, creating inroads and 
maneuver space for Joint and whole-of-government strategic engagement. 
As a people organization, the Army is uniquely qualified to maintain 
and expand this vital network, especially given that partner militaries 
and their senior leaders are predominately land force-centric. Our 
roadmap for building and strengthening relationships spans a range of 
activities that include military and key leader engagements, education 
and training programs such as the Department of State's International 
Military Education and Training (IMET) and International Professional 
Military Education (IPME), security assistance through Title 22 Foreign 
Military Sales, and advise and assist capabilities. Boots on the ground 
deter would-be adversaries, and small, scalable engagements with our 
Allies and partners open doors to the access and presence we need to 
compete effectively. The Army's new Security Force Assistance Brigades 
(SFAB) demonstrate our commitment to alliances and partnerships and our 
capability to compete.
    Last year we completed the activation of all six SFABs, five in the 
Regular Army and one in the Army National Guard. Since then, 5th SFAB 
has already completed missions with multiple partners across the Indo-
Pacific theater, including elements of the Thai, Indonesian, and Indian 
armies. Later this year, many of those partners will join their 
American counterparts in combined exercises at the National Training 
Center. Engagements such as these are vital, not only for 
interoperability, but in recognition that Cold War-era exclusive 
allegiance to a single great power no longer exists. Many if not all of 
our allies and partners maintain concurrent relationships with both the 
United States and our competitors and potential adversaries. We cannot 
take for granted these relationships and the vital access and presence 
they provide us.
                                closing
    The men and women of the United States Army are the greatest 
Soldiers in the world. The Army is cultivating cohesive teams, 
maximizing talent, sustaining tactical and strategic readiness, 
progressing through our greatest transformation in over 40 years, and 
strengthening our alliances and partnerships. We are leading the way in 
developing and fielding high technology for the Joint Force. We are 
opening operational and strategic doors in the Indo-Pacific and Europe. 
We are succeeding through calibrating our force posture around the 
globe to assure our partners and deter would-be adversaries, and we 
need your continued support. With timely, adequate, predictable, and 
sustained funding, we will remain ready to fight and win our Nation's 
wars--now and into the future.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, General McConville. As I 
mentioned in my opening statement, and as is obvious to all, 
the focus on Chinese as the pacing threat is taking a lot of 
your attention and time. Also with the decision to withdraw 
from Afghanistan that is adding additional, I think, emphasis 
to the Indo-Pacific region.
    Secretary Wormuth, with your policy and strategy expertise, 
what do you see is the appropriate role of the Army in Indo-
Pacific?
    Secretary Wormuth. Thank you, Chairman. I think there are a 
number of roles for the Army in the INDOPACOM AOR [area of 
responsiblity] across the full spectrum of competition, if you 
will. First, I think the Army is uniquely well positioned to 
serve our Nation in the competition phase. You know, many of 
the chiefs of defense in the countries in Asia are actually 
Army generals, and so they are particularly interested in 
partnerships with our Army, and I know General McConville has 
seen that in his many visits with his counterparts.
    We can use those relationships to increase our alliances 
and partnerships to deepen our relationships with those 
countries so that, as I said in my opening statement, in a time 
potentially where tensions are rising, we may be able to 
leverage those positive relationships for access that can be 
very helpful, and we are doing that with things like our 
Security Force Assistance Brigades, with elements of our multi-
domain task force that right now is working out of JBLM [Joint 
Base Lewis-McCord] in Washington, and that we are going to 
build on in the future.
    Then moving up the spectrum of competition into conflict, 
the Army, particularly with the modernization programs we are 
pursuing, can do a number of things: provide long-range 
precision fires, again through the numerous programs we have 
there to go after maritime and air targets. We can provide a 
layered air defense, which will help us in terms of the anti-
access and area denial capabilities we face there. We are 
pursuing making sure we have a survivable, resilient network, 
which we know we are going to need given the counter-space 
capabilities that we face.
    So I think, again, as part of the Joint Force, the Army can 
be very, very useful in terms of bringing options to the 
combatant commander in INDOPACOM.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Madam Secretary. 
General McConville, how do the Army modernization efforts 
complement and support the strategy that the Secretary just 
talked about?
    General McConville. Yes, Chairman. As we take a look at our 
modernization priorities, what they provide us is speed, they 
provide us range, and they provide us this concept of 
convergence, when we bring together all the Army's systems and 
the joint systems and the future, even our allies' and 
partners' systems, and that gives us the decision dominance 
that we need, and quite frankly, the overmatch we need to deter 
competitors and potential adversaries. I would argue that we 
get deterrence through strength. That strength comes from a 
strong Joint Force working together, and it comes from strong 
allies and partners, and we have strong allies and partners, as 
the Secretary said, in the region.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Madam Secretary, you 
just returned from Fort Hood. Senator Inhofe and I went there 
in the wake of the serious situations that developed there. 
There are many factors involved, but obviously command climate, 
leadership engagement--one of the more disconcerting comments 
that I heard was from a sergeant major, saying that the troops 
do not trust the commanders and the commanders do not know the 
troops. That might be a function of constant deployments and 
constant activity, but still it cannot be tolerated.
    Can you give us your comments and observations about the 
positive changes that you have made and will make?
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly. We are very focused on 
building cohesive teams down to the lowest level. So we have 
launched the This is My Squad initiative, and the Sergeant 
Major of the Army is our point man on that effort. We are, as 
you know, completely redesigning the SHARP [Sexual Harassment 
Assault Response and Prevention] program. We are also 
restructuring our Criminal Investigative Division so that, 
among other things, we will have more experienced investigators 
to handle these kinds of special victim crimes.
    I want to share--well, one other thing I will touch on 
before I share just an observation. A very important piece we 
have also undertaken is the Command Assessment Program that 
really is revolutionizing how we are selecting future leaders, 
and takes into account their past performance on command 
climate. But I did a sensing session with soldiers, myself 
alone in the room, and one of the things I heard strongly was 
they feel that their commanders do care. I think they think 
their commanders have a lot of things on their plate that makes 
it hard for them to have time to care, but there was a sense of 
caring that was very clear.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Senator Inhofe, please.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, 
let's get another shot at the Army budget cuts. As I stated in 
my opening remarks, the Army bears the brunt of the 
disappointing President's Budget Request that prioritizes a 
domestic agenda over national defense. I am reminded also of 
the amendment that I had on there for parity between defense 
and non-defense. I will have to go back and check, but I think 
this is the first time in 10 years or so that we have actually 
come out and said parity is not something that is going to be 
pursued, and that is the first time the statement has been made 
in a recorded vote.
    General McConville, please describe the impact--I will give 
you another shot at the same thing that you were just now 
talking about--and the risk of these cuts on the Army's ability 
to modernize the force for competition, and if necessary, if it 
should become necessary, conflict with China and Russia, and to 
fulfill its obligation to the other combatant commanders, which 
they would have to do at the same time. Talk about capacity. 
Where do we stand with that now?
    General McConville. Well, Senator, as I said in my opening 
statement, the end strength of the United States Army is 
485,000 on the Active and a little over 1 million when it comes 
to the total force. That is the same size Army that we had 
right before 9/11. As we all know, we go to war with the Army 
we have, and we had to grow that Army during the conflicts in 
Afghanistan and Iraq, and so we have frozen that end strength 
at 485,000. Would we like to have a bigger Army, depending on 
the strategy? Absolutely. But with the budget we have we are 
trying to bring forward the best Army that can fight tonight 
and win.
    But also what I would argue, more importantly in the 
future, as we watch our strategic competitors continue to 
improve their capabilities, the budget gives us the most 
efficient capability when it comes to readiness. If we are 
going to send forces into harm's way they have got to be ready. 
As the Secretary talked about, we are focusing on the squad, 
platoon, and company level, to make sure that all those 
soldiers are ready to go.
    Then we have to modernize the Army. I would argue every 40 
years the Army has to transform. It did in 1940, right before 
World War II, it did in 1980, when I came in the Army. Most of 
the weapons we are using are 1980 vintage, and quite frankly, I 
think in 2020 we must do the same. So we have done all we can 
with the Secretary and myself to protect the modernization of 
the Army, and we believe we must do that. I have outlined in my 
unfunded requirement letter to you those unfunded requirements 
that were not met within the budget.
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah. Well, in general, I am the first to 
admit, with the budget that we have, you guys are just doing 
great. We do not have an adequate budget. That is the problem 
that we have. Let's look into the future of the cuts. It always 
seems like when the administration wants to cut defense it goes 
after the Army first, and when President Obama reduced defense 
he cut the Army's base budget by $70 billion and cut end 
strength by nearly 90,000. So that was a problem that we were 
dealing with at that time. These cuts left the Army with only 
one brigade combat team at the highest level of readiness. It 
took nearly half a decade, and $100 billion of additional 
funding to fix it.
    Now, Secretary Wormuth, while we the Army has worked hard 
in this request to preserve end strength and limit reductions 
to its highest modernization priorities, would this be possible 
with additional budget cuts the next year and the year after 
that? We all tend to look at where we are today, and I am 
concerned right now, with the trends that are out there, where 
we are going to be with budget cuts in the near future. What do 
you think?
    Secretary Wormuth. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. As you know, 
Secretary Austin has undertaken both a new national defense 
strategy review as well as a global posture review, and we, of 
course, in the Army, are participating in both of those 
efforts. I think it will be very important in terms of looking 
to the future to look at how that new strategy is developed and 
what it requires the Army to do. I would agree with you 
certainly that we are in a very, very tough international 
security environment. There is no shortage of threats.
    So I think as General McConville and I go forward into 
future POM [program objective memorandum] builds we are going 
to have to be looking carefully at what does the strategy call 
upon us to do, what do we think are the current demands from 
combatant commanders, and can we meet those current demands 
while also protecting our modernization efforts, which is going 
to be critical? Particularly having seen everything we are 
doing at Fort Hood, and again, the challenge of taking care of 
our people while also meeting current mission requirements, I 
think we are having set end strength at 485,000, we are still 
under stress, particularly in certain areas like air defense, 
as you know. So we are going to be strong advocates going into 
the future budget discussions.
    Senator Inhofe. Yeah. Well, I do not have any doubt of 
that, and I know that you are fully aware of the problems that 
exist if we have reductions, which a lot of people, including 
myself, are concerned with. So I appreciate the fact that we 
have the two of you at the helm at this given time, but it is 
going to take more resources.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Secretary Wormuth and General 
McConville, for being here this morning and for your service.
    The National Guard plays a critical role both in adding to 
the total force of the Army but also in the welfare of each of 
our states. I do not know how New Hampshire could have gotten 
through the last year and a half with the pandemic without the 
National Guard. We had the highest percentage of our force 
structure per capita activated in response to the Guard, and it 
has come to my attention that there was a recent letter sent by 
members of the Florida, California, and Texas congressional 
delegations to the Secretary of Defense that requested larger 
Guard end strength levels in line with the per capita size of 
their states. For a small state like New Hampshire, that is 
especially troubling to think about what that means for the 
future.
    So can you talk about how we strike the balance between the 
needs of those large states and small states that have our 
Guard both working on state missions but are also being 
activated for the national missions as well?
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly, Senator Shaheen, and I would 
ask General McConville to expand on this. When it comes to 
looking at the National Guard, first I want to agree that they 
have done a fantastic job all around the country this year. It 
has really been incredible, whether it has been helping us 
respond to COVID, natural disasters, or securing the Capitol 
here more recently.
    We need to look at both what the overseas requirements are 
for the National Guard and how they fit into our contingency 
plans around the world, whether it is Europe or in Asia. That 
is part of what we think about when it comes to looking at the 
size. But we also, of course, look at their support to civil 
authorities here at home, and try to look at that very 
holistically. That is something we look at each year as we go 
through our total Army analysis, and I think, you know, we 
would want to look carefully at making adjustments, 
particularly significant adjustments.
    But, General McConville, you may want to add to that.
    General McConville. I think the Secretary--you know, one 
thing that I do want to say about the National Guard, this has 
been the year of the Army National Guard. I could not be more 
proud of what they have done in their communities. They have 
been there. They have been all over the place. I just could not 
be more proud of them, and I think, Senator, it comes to 
balance. We have big states and we have little states. What we 
want to do is work with each of the states, make sure we know 
what their requirements are. As we transform the Army, we are 
working very closely with their leadership. You know, we have 
certain states that would like to have certain type units that 
are more beneficial for how they operate within their state, 
but also the type of people that want to serve in the Army, 
there are some states that have better opportunities than 
others.
    So as the Secretary said, we need to work very, very 
closely with them, with you all, and come forward with what the 
Army looks like, what the National Guard, what the total force 
looks like in the future.
    Senator Shaheen. So we should not expect to see an 
announcement any time soon that will dramatically cut the size 
of small states' Guard forces to the benefit of large states?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I would not expect--you should 
not expect to see that. Again, if we are going to make 
adjustments to the distribution of Guard force around the 
country, that is something that the Chief and I are going to 
want to look at carefully.
    Senator Shaheen. Consult with Congress, I assume.
    Secretary Wormuth. Absolutely.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Secretary Wormuth, in your 
opening statement you talked about future conflicts being all-
domain conflicts. Do you see hybrid warfare as an all-domain 
conflict?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I think certainly hybrid 
conflict or gray zone conflict, as some people refer to it, can 
take place in multiple domains. So, for example, you may have 
the little green men that we saw that Russia put into Ukraine--
--
    Senator Shaheen. That we are still seeing in Ukraine.
    Secretary Wormuth. Correct, while at the same time you see 
cyber warfare and information operations, for example. So I do 
think that hybrid or gray zone conflict can be multi-domain.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, where I am going with this is 
concern about how we are preparing to respond to that kind of 
hybrid or gray zone warfare, because so far we have not been as 
successful as I would like to see us. So how do we address 
that, going forward, as we are looking at preparing our Army?
    Secretary Wormuth. I think we do need to do more in that 
area, and I would anticipate that that is something, again, 
that in the strategy review it is going to be looked at, 
because I think we need to build out our thinking about how to 
operate effectively in that zone. In particular, in the Army, 
we first of all had been investing for some time now in 
additional cyber capabilities, for example. We have been paying 
attention to cybersecurity but also building out or cyber 
protection teams and doing a lot of work with Army Cyber 
Command.
    We also see, in the Multi-Domain Task Force formation an 
information operations capability, an electronic warfare 
capability, and those are the kinds of capabilities I think 
that we can bring to bear in gray zone situations. We, of 
course, also have Special Forces, who can go back to the more 
traditional unconventional warfare that was sort of some of 
their roots in the Cold War.
    So those are, I think, all things that the Army can do, but 
again, the Chief may want to add.
    General McConville. So I think you make a very important 
point, and I think we find ourselves at an inflection point 
right now. Over the last 20 years we were really focused on 
irregular warfare, counterinsurgency, counterterrorism. We have 
to be ready for gray zone, hybrid, but really being contested 
in what we call every single domain. So, we are going to be 
contested in cyber, and then the question becomes is that 
conflict or how does that work? We are going to be contested 
with a lot of type of systems that we use, all the way back to 
the United States, and so we are preparing for that.
    The second thing is the information influence operations 
are going to change the way we operate in the future. I would 
argue, in some cases, information advantage may be more 
important than even the type of operations that are going on on 
the ground. We go back to some of the, ``Sun Tzu'', winning 
without fighting. You can do that, in some cases, with 
information operations. Our competitors are not constrained the 
way they operate in that sphere, and we have to take that very 
seriously when it comes to cyber information operations and 
some of the other domains, and we are preparing our forces and 
our troops to be able to operate in that environment.
    Senator Shaheen. I could not agree more, having just come 
back from Europe where they are very concerned about those 
operations in Russia.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Ernst, 
please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you both very much for coming to the 
Committee this morning and for testifying in front of us, and 
most certainly and most importantly, for your service to our 
great United States.
    I appreciate the efforts that you are truly making to put 
our people first. I think that is extremely important. But you 
also must meet mission requirements, modernize the force, and 
adapt to the new challenges and threats that we see presented 
before us. As we withdraw from Afghanistan, which will be a 
significant emotional event for those that have been involved 
in actions there, as well as their families, I want to commend 
the force very much and thank them for their service, and your 
leadership, for the tremendous efforts and accomplishments that 
we have seen in that theater of operations. For 20 years, the 
Army, along with our Joint Force, our allies and partners, have 
kept those threats at bay and away from our Homeland.
    So now, of course, the Army does face new challenges, and I 
am very concerned about this administration's budget as it 
comes to meeting the needs of the Army. So, Madam Secretary, 
the Army is executing its modernization strategy, per the 2018 
NDAA [National Defense Authorization Act], You state that the 
gains you have made are real, but fragile, and I agree.
    As the only service that is facing real budget cuts this 
year, how do you intend to keep the gains that you have made?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Ernst, I think to preserve the 
gains that we have made we are going to have to balance 
multiple dimensions of the Army, inside of its budget. First we 
are going to have to continue to seek, wherever we can, 
efficiencies and reforms. As you know, my predecessors and 
General McConville have done a few cycles of what was called 
``night court'' to be able to identify funding that we could 
move internally. We have, the big fish have been fished out of 
that pond. At this point there are more small fish and minnows 
left there. But we need to keep seeking those efficiencies 
where we can.
    I think we need to work with the Secretary and the 
combatant commanders to really scrub our current operational 
requirements, to see if we can find places where we may be able 
to take pressure off of the Army. Then I think we will have to 
look carefully at how we make sure, with the resources that we 
have, that we continue to put people first but really protect 
those modernization programs. We are playing the long game now, 
and we have some time to be able to pursue our modernization 
program. But we really need to keep that, I think, front and 
center, because our soldiers are our most important asset and 
they need those new capabilities, those new next-generation 
weapons systems to be able to execute their missions in the 
future.
    So we are going to have to look very carefully across the 
whole budget, going forward.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, and I think this will be a very 
delicate balance as we move forward.
    So both for you, Secretary, and for you, General 
McConville, as well, the budget significantly reduces the R&D 
[research & development] funding, meaning that development, 
experimentation, and advancement as we are modernizing our 
force will be hamstrung, even as we are facing continuing 
evolving threats. So as we are making that balance, you have 
mentioned the unfunded requests that have gone forward, how 
would you prioritize, if you could today, if we had unlimited 
dollars to send your direction, what would those priorities be, 
and why?
    General McConville. Senator, one of the things on the 
research and development--and I will come back to priorities--
is we have aligned about 74 percent of our science and 
technology against the 31+4 systems. We have really moved 
everything we can do.
    So as far as priorities, we have some installation 
priorities. We often talk about what would be the top 
priorities. We have some people priorities right now that we 
would like to finish. We have barracks, we have housing, we 
have some child development centers that are all in there. It 
is about people first, and we would like to get those 
completed. They are in the unfunded requirements.
    We also have what we call ``enduring systems.'' We have 
focused on the 31+4, the modernization systems, but we also 
have Abrams tanks, we have Paladin howitzers, we have Apache 
helicopters, we have Black Hawks, we have other weapons systems 
that are going to be here enduring, that we need to modernize 
our forces, we need to modernize the National Guard with, so 
they have the forces when they go off to conflict. Those 
systems are going to be around for the next 20, 30, 40 years, 
and so we are improving them, and as the new systems come on, 
some of those systems will be divest and some will not. Those 
are where the priorities are, at least for the Army.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you very much. I think that is an 
important point is that while we are seeking to modernize the 
force, we do have legacy systems as well that will need to be 
maintained until we see the realization of modernization.
    So again, thank you both very much for your service. Trying 
times for all of us. We certainly are here to support. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Senator Hirono, 
please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Wormuth, 
first of all congratulations on your well-deserved 
confirmation.
    Let me start with, we have all acknowledged the importance 
of sensing our allies, and so what unique tools is the Army 
investing in to enable joint interoperability with our allies, 
and what can the Army do to further strengthen U.S. military 
relations with our allies and partners in the region? I am 
talking about, in particular, within the Indo-Pacific region.
    Secretary Wormuth. I understand, Senator Hirono. It is very 
nice to see you in person, and thank you for your well wishes.
    A few things in terms of interoperability with our 
partners. First of all, again, many of the countries in the 
INDOPACOM AOR are led by chiefs of defense who come from their 
armies. So one thing that we have that I think helps us build 
our alliances and partnerships is those army-to-army 
relationships. They very much want to train with us, to 
exercise with us, to learn from us, and in many cases, purchase 
our various weapons systems. So those are all things that we 
can build on. Those exercises are part of what helps us with 
building interoperability.
    We are moving, with our Project Convergence campaign of 
learning, that started last year and was largely Army centric, 
this year it will be a joint undertaking, but we are building 
towards bringing together some of our allies and partners from 
the INDOPACOM AOR to be able to work with us and experiment 
with us and look at using prototypes. So we also are working to 
try to bring our allies and partners in on the ground floor of 
developing these new, joint warfighting concepts.
    Senator Hirono. I think the mil-to-mil relationships have 
always been the area where we have strong alliances, and would 
you acknowledge also that diplomacy plays a major part in all 
of this?
    Secretary Wormuth. Absolutely, and frankly, my own view is 
that to make the kind of progress that we would like to see, 
particularly in terms of access and being able to have more 
presence in the region that has to be led by our diplomats. The 
Department of Defense, the Department of State, the White 
House, we all need to work together, and frankly, we need to 
work with our agencies that have economic and trade 
responsibilities as well. But I think we need to have a whole-
of-government approach to really help us get to where we want 
to be in that region.
    Senator Hirono. I agree. So moving on, on the issue of 
sexual assault and harassment, Secretary Wormuth and General 
McConville, for a number of years now senior DOD leaders have 
briefed us, basically from my seat countless times, on the need 
to eliminate the scourge of sexual violence in the military. To 
the credit of the DOD and the military, yes, a number of 
attempts have been made, but we still are confronted with the 
scourge, and, in fact, the Fort Hood report that came out at 
the end of last year described the installation as having, ``a 
permissive environment for sexual assault,'' where junior 
enlisted personnel did not trust the chain of command. I think 
you mentioned that there is a need to increase trust in the 
military, and it is not just in the sexual assault situation, 
of course, but in other instances.
    So for both of you, do you think moving sexual harassment 
investigations, for example, outside the immediate chain of 
command would help to restore trust in the system?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Hirono, I had the opportunity to 
go and visit Fort Hood last week and see first-hand, frankly, a 
lot of the steps that the Army is taking, at that installation 
in particular, to try to really get after the command climate 
issues. I think where we are really going to see results in 
terms of driving down the prevalence of sexual harassment and 
sexual assault is through prevention. So I am very interested 
in seeing things like the redesign of our SHARP program, doing 
This is My Squad initiative that really tries to bring leaders 
taking care of our soldiers down to the lowest level.
    That said, accountability is an important piece of the 
issue as well and I think can play a role. I am open-minded to 
looking at how best to do that. I think increasing the 
specialization of our folks responsible for prosecuting these 
kinds of crimes would be beneficial, and I am open to looking 
at this, and have been asked to be a part of the conversation 
with Secretary Austin on this matter.
    Senator Hirono. Mr. Chairman, if I could just do one short 
follow-up.
    Chairman Reed. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Hirono. So I mentioned sexual harassment because 
right now that is not a separate charge under UCMJ [Uniform 
code of Military Justice], and I do have a bill to move in that 
direction. I certainly welcome your support of that, and yes, 
we want to move toward prevention. But there will be an effort 
to remove the prosecutorial discretion on investigations and 
prosecutions out of the chain of command. There will be an 
effort to do that relating to sexual-related offenses. I 
mentioned that because that is the direction that I think we 
need to go.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Cotton, 
please.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you both 
for your appearance.
    Secretary Wormuth, when you were here for your confirmation 
hearing you agreed with me that the Army University Press 
should not remove the term ``Union Army'' from its 
publications. Have you had a chance to address that issue yet?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Cotton, I apologize. I have not 
had the chance to address that yet, given that I have been here 
3 weeks, but as I said to you in my hearing, I will look into 
that and talk to the folks at Army University Press.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. I understand it has been a short 
time and you have got a lot of other pressing issues, but as I 
said then and I will say again, if it was good enough for U.S. 
Grant, I think it is good enough for our troopers today.
    For both Secretary and General McConville I want to speak 
to you about the nearly decade-long effort to replace the Army 
Physical Fitness Test with the Army Combat Fitness Test, to 
test our soldiers on physical fitness that is a bit more 
applicable to the tasks on the battlefield, and also to make it 
gender neutral. There are reports of further Combat Fitness 
Test redesigns and changing standards associated with the test 
have made for a somewhat confusing story and heated debate. Can 
you clarify for us the obstacles that are currently facing the 
Combat Fitness Test, whether it will remain gender neutral and 
how the Army is seeking to implement the test now?
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly, Senator, and again, I would 
ask General McConville to build on my answer. But first of all 
it is very important that we have our soldiers be physically 
fit for a demanding environment on the future battlefield, and 
one of the reasons that the Army has pursued the ACFT [Army 
Combat Fitness Test] is to try to raise our overall fitness 
level while reducing injuries. So that was the impetus.
    We are continuing to look at how to finalize the design for 
the ACFT. We are continuing to have gender-neutral standards. 
We have made some changes, as you know, moving from the leg 
tuck to making the plank an option. But we are waiting for the 
results of a study from RAND that has been required by 
Congress, and we are not going to make any final decisions 
about the test until we have the results of that and we can 
understand how the test is going to both improve our fitness 
but also potentially what it might do in terms of our ability 
to recruit specialized skills like cyber and doctors and things 
of that nature. But why don't I let the Chief build.
    Senator Cotton. General?
    General McConville. I think the science behind the Army 
Combat Fitness Test is really about reducing injuries. As we 
have taken a look at the Army Physical Fitness Test over the--
in fact, I was there when it was implemented, I hate to say, it 
was 40 years ago, and it is time to transform that test, to 
take advantage of the capabilities we have today. As we take a 
look at it, as the Secretary said, we are examining the impact 
on the force. I took it last week, for the record. I think it 
is a good test. What we want to do is move forward in 
implementation, based on the study. I think it is going to have 
a more fit force, which is something that we need as we move in 
the future.
    Senator Cotton. Do you want to share you score, for the 
record?
    General McConville. Four hundred seventy-eight, for the 
record.
    Senator Cotton. That is good. I am sure all your joes 
around are going to try to beat that now.
    General, are you committed, as well, to maintaining gender 
neutrality on the test?
    General McConville. I am.
    Senator Cotton. Is there any consideration to pegging 
scores towards branch or MOS [military occupational specialty]?
    General McConville. Well, I think the future, at least if I 
could make a recommendation in the future, is as we move to 
more of a talent management model in the Army, if you are an 
airborne ranger, which is a fitness type organization, if you 
are in the 101st Airborne Division or the 82nd, I would say 
from talent management you want people with a certain level of 
physical fitness. If you are doing something else, you are a 
neurosurgeon, you might be more concerned with that person that 
can operate at a Level VI level than, you know, lead the 
battalion in PT.
    So I think what we want to get to--at least I do--is move 
away from an Industrial Age personnel management system to a 
21st century talent management system where we recruit people, 
we select people, and we, quite frankly, promote people based 
on the knowledge, skills, behaviors that they have within their 
specialized area. But we still want a certain level of fitness 
in the Army.
    Senator Cotton. Yeah. I think the Army needs to consider 
that. You know, loading a round into a tank gun or a Howitzer 
has to be done, whether you are a man or a woman.
    General McConville. That is right.
    Senator Cotton. It requires a certain level of physical 
fitness. But that is a different level of physical fitness than 
it takes to be a flight surgeon or to be a cybersecurity 
specialist.
    One last question for you, General. In the last decade, I 
think maybe when you were Vice Chief, the Army stood up the 
Security Force Assistance Brigades.
    General McConville. Yes.
    Senator Cotton. They were primarily active in Afghanistan. 
Now that we will be out of Afghanistan in a few weeks and our 
national security strategy has postured towards competition 
against near-peer rivals like China and Russia, what do you see 
as the future of those SFABs [Security Force Assistance 
Brigades], and what role are they going to play for the Army in 
the future?
    General McConville. They are in tremendous demand. You 
know, the question was what are you doing in Indo-Pacific. The 
5th Security Force Assistance Brigade is active. They are 
employed. They are building partner and allies capacity and 
capability, and quite frankly, they are one of the hottest 
items that are out in each combatant commanders, providing 
great options to professionalizing the force within these 
countries. As we talked about, we are getting our strength, not 
only from having a strong military but through our allies and 
partners, and they are instrumental in doing that, and they are 
building tremendous relationships for us right now, as we 
speak.
    So each of the Security Force Assistance Brigades is 
oriented to a combatant commander and they are using them very 
well.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, General. Thank you, Secretary.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator Kelly, if 
you are ready, you could be recognized.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I appreciate 
you having this hearing today. Thank you to Secretary Wormuth 
and General McConville.
    Secretary Wormuth, Arizona is home to some of the Army's 
most capable test ranges, like Fort Huachuca's Electronic 
Proving Ground and the Yuma Proving Ground. Both installations 
play an important role in the mission of our Army Futures 
Command and also an important role for DEVCOM [Development 
Command].
    At Yuma alone, 30 percent of the workload is dedicated to 
DEVCOM developmental testing. Yuma is also the host of Project 
Convergence, a critical modernization project designed to 
further integrate the Army into the Joint Force and test the 
effectiveness of concepts and equipment that will prepare us 
for future conflicts.
    The defense contractor workforce at these ranges works 
side-by-side with uniformed and civilian personnel to execute 
the mission. Now I am concerned by reductions in funding for 
these range support functions. Electronic Proving Grounds at 
Fort Huachuca and Yuma Proving Ground is seeing some of these 
funding reductions.
    These are premier testing sites for the advanced systems 
that will modernize America's Army. It is critical that we 
invest not only in programs but in range infrastructure--it is 
often the thing that is left out--but also investing in the 
workforce that allows us to make leaps in technology, providing 
our soldiers with the best equipment to meet the challenges of 
tomorrow.
    Secretary Wormuth, what would be the risks involved in 
decreasing funding for test range support, including for the 
government and contractor workforce, at a time when 
modernization is a top priority of the Army?
    Secretary Wormuth. Thank you, Senator Kelly. As you 
mentioned, Arizona, and Yuma, is going to be the host for 
Project Convergence. Has been. I am excited to go out there 
this fall and see the next Project Convergence, which we are 
scaling up.
    To your question, given the budget that the Army has, we 
have made some difficult choices. But we have done everything 
we can to protect our modernization programs and the testing 
facilities and ranges that we believe are needed to support 
those programs, as well as the contractors to support that kind 
of testing. That said, I have not yet been able to come out to 
Yuma and Fort Huachuca, and would welcome doing that in the 
future and talking with you about your concerns, because again, 
it is very important that we preserve adequate ranges to do the 
kind of testing that we need for the future. So this is 
something I would be happy to work with you on and have a 
dialogue about.
    Senator Kelly. I appreciate that. I would love to visit 
with you at Fort Huachuca, at Yuma Proving Ground. If we are 
going to stay ahead of our adversaries, we are going to do it 
by out-innovating them, and to innovating our near-peer 
adversaries we need to test the equipment. So we need ranges 
and test centers that can support those functions.
    General, for the past 20 years the Army has focused efforts 
and resources on conflicts in the Middle East. At the same 
time, our adversaries were focused on outpacing us through 
military modernization efforts. Modernization is critical to 
staying ahead of our adversaries, and when done effectively can 
function as a deterrent. We know that future wars will look 
different than current conflicts, and the Army will need to use 
resources and equipment efficiently across a range of domains 
to meet tomorrow's challenges.
    Knowing the important role that basic research plays, are 
you concerned about the decreases to Army science and 
technology funding, and is there a plan to reinvest in this 
area for future years?
    General McConville. As we take a look at the budget we are 
always concerned about making cuts, and what the Secretary and 
myself have to do is we have to look across the portfolio and 
determine what are the must-must-dos. For science and 
technology, we have reoriented our resources so they are 
focused on our top priorities. I think it is like 71 or 72 
percent of our research and development, our science and 
technology dollars are focused on delivering the 31+4 top 
systems. Could we use more money in those other areas? 
Absolutely. But the Secretary and myself have got to make tough 
decisions, and those tough decisions are based on the 
priorities we need to be effective in the future.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, General, and thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kelly. Let me 
now recognize Senator Blackburn.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam 
Secretary, just a quick question for you. Kingsport, Tennessee, 
has the Holston Ammunition facility, and it is a main supplier 
of explosive materials to the Department of Defense, and 
Holston is on the Army's unfunded priorities list, along with 
similar facilities there in Virginia, Missouri, Pennsylvania, 
and Iowa. Total request for modernization is $40 million. And 
these are basically World War II-era facilities, and we need 
that money for modernization of these facilities. So I would 
call this to your attention, and I would ask that you commit to 
me that you will work on this, to modernize these facilities.
    Secretary Wormuth. Thank you, Senator Blackburn. It is nice 
to see you in person, first of all.
    As General McConville developed the unfunded requirements 
list, those are obviously things that we would like to have if 
we had additional funding, and we have tried to give you a 
sense of how we would prioritize them. As the Chief just said, 
with the resources we have had we have had to make difficult 
choices, but certainly going forward I would commit to you to 
look into the ammunition facilities there and try for myself, 
develop a better idea of how it fits in with other places in 
the country that provide similar capabilities to us.
    Senator Blackburn. I think it is appropriate that we review 
that but that we make certain we have modernized these 
facilities, because they are a part of our supply chain, if you 
will.
    General, good to see you. There are a lot of people from 
Fort Campbell that fondly remember your and Ms. McConville's 
time on post, and so we thank you for that.
    O&M [Operations and Maintenance] cuts and our concerns that 
are around these, given the aviation mishaps that have 
occurred, not only with the Guard but also with the 160th SOAR 
[Special Operations Aviation Regiment], and I know that you are 
very familiar with these incidences. So talk to me a little bit 
about how we are going to get in behind this equipment. I know 
that you have heard, I have heard it from some of our men and 
women, where they get the order to make it work when they are 
doing maintenance and repair or find a way to get to yes. We 
want to be smart. Sometimes shortcuts do not serve us well, and 
our men and women in uniform deserve to know that when they get 
into that equipment that that equipment is going to allow them 
to fulfill their mission.
    General McConville. First of all, Senator, thank you, and I 
have got a special place in heart for Fort Campbell, and I have 
two kids serving there, and it is very special. You make a 
great point on Army aviation. Pilots have to have the flying 
hours to train. They have to have that, and our maintainers 
have to have the time to maintain those aircraft, and they have 
to have the resources. As we pressurize the budget, as we push 
on these type things, we start--especially with trends, as the 
Secretary talked about. I worry about trends, because trends 
start moving you in a certain direction, and you slowly start 
taking away things, just a few less hours, a few more this, a 
few more those type things, and then you find out you have some 
very serious concerns.
    So I am concerned about that. I am committed to making sure 
that our units have the flying hours that they need to be 
proficient, and really more than proficient, that they can do 
their job in combat, and I am committed to making sure that 
they are getting the parts and they have the expertise to 
maintain those aircraft.
    Senator Blackburn. Well, and as you know, I went to bat 
more than once to get dollars for those flying hours and to 
make certain that those were there.
    I have got additional questions for each of you, but my 
time is going to be running out. I will submit these to 
writing. General, I am going to come to you with a question on 
end strength as it relates to this budget. I am very concerned 
about the impact that that is having on our military personnel 
and their families, the uncertainty that that has inserted into 
their lives.
    So I thank each of you for your time and your service, and 
Mr. Chairman, thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn. Let me now 
recognize Senator Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for being here this morning. Thank you for your service.
    I do not know whether you have seen the report by the 
Associated Press on weapons belonging to all of the military 
services that have been lost or stolen, and apparently have 
been unaccounted for. I hope you have. I commend it to you. 
This report is absolutely blood-curdling. The idea that 
pistols, assault weapons, grenade launchers are missing from 
armories of the United States military because they have been 
lost or stolen, without any apparent account, without any 
reporting to Congress or to the FBI [Federal Bureau of 
Investigation] or to the agency, Alcohol, Tobacco, and 
Firearms, that may have jurisdiction as well, is just 
incredibly alarming and astonishing. I would like to get from 
both of you what you know about it and your commitment that you 
will, in fact, investigate these reports.
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I did see that report in the 
press, and certainly we take this situation very, very 
seriously. You know, we train our soldiers to maintain 
accountability of their weapons. That is a basic skill and 
responsibility that we expect from our soldiers. My 
understanding is that the cases of weapons from any branch of 
the services being unaccounted for and getting into the hands 
of civilians is likely to be a small number, but particularly 
given these reports I commit to you that this is something that 
we will look into and certainly make sure we have situational 
awareness of that situation in the Army.
    Senator Blumenthal. Well, this is a public report, and 
1,900 firearms is not exactly a small number. Apparently, a 
substantial number are used in crimes, have been recovered at 
crime scenes, which is really mind-boggling and blood-curdling. 
I would like to know whether you will commit, as the Pentagon 
used to do, sharing annual updates about lost or stolen 
firearms with Congress, whether you will resume that regular 
reporting?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, again, we do take these reports 
very seriously, and I absolutely commit to you to look into 
this and share what we know, and get back to you on that.
    Senator Blumenthal. I do not mean to interrupt, and I 
apologize, but will you commit to reporting to Congress, as was 
the practice?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I think what I can commit to is 
we can share with you everything we in the Army understand 
about our weapons.
    Senator Blumenthal. Will you support a reporting 
requirements, generally, to the Department of Defense?
    Secretary Wormuth. I think we would be open to a reporting 
requirement.
    Senator Blumenthal. This report says that the Army and the 
Air Force could not answer basic questions about missing 
weapons. It says also, ``The Army sought to suppress 
information on missing weapons and gave misleading numbers that 
contradict internal memos.'' Will you report back to us about 
that claim?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I would be happy to look into 
how we have handled this issue.
    Senator Blumenthal. Do you know whether it is true?
    Secretary Wormuth. I do not, Senator. I do now know what 
our past practice, going back years, has been on this matter.
    Senator Blumenthal. The report says, further, the AP 
[Associated Press] began asking the Army for details on missing 
weapons in 2011, and filed a formal request a year later for 
records of guns listed as missing, lost, stolen, or recovered. 
Apparently the reports quote an official as saying, ``You are 
dealing with millions of weapons, but we are supposed to have 
100 percent recon, right? We are not allowed a discrepancy on 
that, but there is so much room for discrepancy,'' which 
indicates to me that there is systemic failure at every level, 
a failure to keep track of the weapons, a failure to report up 
the chain, a failure to report to Congress, a failure to report 
to law enforcement. Do you disagree?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I am not, again, familiar with 
the details of the story so I do not want to speculate. You 
know, I do not want to characterize how the Army has handled it 
to date without having the facts. But I would certainly commit 
to collecting the facts and continuing to talk with you about 
this important issue.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Well, I really appreciate 
it, and I know that you are new to the job. Welcome to your 
first Committee hearing. Sorry to hit you with this topic, but 
I think you will agree with me that it is profoundly important 
that the military keep track of stolen or missing weapons. I 
hope we can agree on that.
    Secretary Wormuth. Of course.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Madam 
Secretary, General McConville, thank you for being here. Thank 
you for your service.
    Let me just start with one of our priorities in Missouri, 
which is to ensure that all of our servicemembers have the best 
possible quality of life. One of the challenges that we are 
facing in Missouri, at Fort Leonard Wood, is to make sure that 
the homes that were built there in the 1960s that are overdue 
for replacement get replaced in a timely fashion, and that we 
are able to provide quality housing. So could you just give us 
an update on what the Army is doing to facilitate replacements 
for these homes? Madam Secretary, we will start with you. 
General, you can add as you see fit.
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly, Senator. Thank you. General 
McConville probably can speak to the details at Fort Leonard 
Wood better than I. But as you know, we have reorganized how we 
are dealing with privatized housing, to basically make a four-
star general responsible, and we meet now weekly to go over the 
family housing at each of our major installations. We now have 
37 out of 44 installations that have privatized housing have 
fully implemented the Tenant Bill of Rights. We expect to have 
the other 7 compliant with the Tenant Bill of Rights by the end 
of July. So this is something that we are working on very, very 
hard.
    I would ask General McConville to speak directly to the 
Fort Leonard Wood installation.
    General McConville. Yeah, just from a priority standpoint, 
the reason we came out with people is our number one priority 
was that kind of drives for the resources, and then within the 
people portfolio, housing in the number one priority. A couple 
of things that we have been working, as the Secretary talked 
about, is we have privatized housing. We are putting billions 
of dollars back into that. Probably about 25 percent of our 
housing right now needs to be fixed. Some of that is 
privatized, and we are working with the privatized housing, and 
they have raised money to put additional money to improve that 
housing.
    The Army housing that the Army owns, which is about 10 to 
15 percent--we had historical housing. It was not historical 
housing. It was old housing, and to me ``old'' is not 
``historical.'' You know, you have a 100-year-old house that 
needs to be fixed, and for a while there we were trying to fix 
it at historical rates, put old windows back that looked like 
old windows, those type of things. So we have got an exception 
to that so we are putting more money into that. We are also 
putting additional funds into housing to get after that, 
because we want quality housing.
    I will need to come back to you on precisely what we are 
doing there, and we will come back to you on that.
    Senator Hawley. Great. Thank you very much. Thanks to both 
of you. Thank you, General. We will follow up with you on that.
    Let's shift to our pacing theater, if we could. General, 
you released the Chief of Staff of the Army Paper Number 1 this 
past March. One of the things the paper said that caught my 
attention, and I am quoting you here, ``Our adversaries will 
attempt to achieve their strategic goals without fighting or to 
seize their objectives quickly as a fait accompli.'' I want to 
commend you for highlighting that scenario in the paper.
    Along those lines, give us a sense of how you see the 
Army's long-range precision fires and their enablers being able 
to help deter or, if we have to, defeat a Chinese fait accompli 
in Taiwan.
    General McConville. Yeah, I think when we talk about long-
range precision fires, and when you think about the threats 
that we could face, as far as deterrence, many of our strategic 
competitors have set up what we call an anti-access air denial 
capability within integrated air and missile defense 
capabilities. So you need something that can penetrate that and 
suppress that. By having land-based, long-range fires you start 
to provide options to the COCOM [combatant command] commander 
to do that. Part of our portfolio and the long-range precision 
fires is also having a land-based, anti-ship capability, so 
then again, you have the ability to hold competitive ships at 
risk. They all come together to give that combatant commander 
multiple options, and really to present multiple dilemmas to 
those who may be wishing us harm, and then by doing that and 
having those capabilities 24/7, you can deter certain types of 
behavior from a strength standpoint.
    Senator Hawley. Let me just ask you, as a follow-up to 
that, TRADOC's [Training and Doctrine Command] December 2018 
publication, which was called ``The Army Multi-Domain 
Operations in 2028,'' stated that the Army must demonstrate the 
ability to immediately deny a fait accompli in order to deter 
an adversary like China. You still agree with that, I assume?
    General McConville. I do.
    Senator Hawley. Along those same lines, Madam Secretary, 
when you and I visited last month you highlighted--and I 
thought this was really good--one of the things you said was 
that China would like to pull off a fait accompli because it 
would be much harder for us to dislodge them from Taiwan than 
to stop them from getting to Taiwan in the first place. Can you 
just elaborate on that? I thought that was such a crystal-clear 
explanation of the dangers of the fait accompli scenario. So 
can you just elaborate on that a little bit?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, Senator. Happy to do that. You 
know, essentially given the anti-access area denial 
capabilities that China now possesses, if they are able to 
achieve a lodgment on Taiwan, we will not have the kind of air 
superiority, for example, that we have had in things like the 
Gulf War in the last 20 years. It will be much harder to 
essentially eject Chinese forces from Taiwan once they land 
there than it would be to stop them coming across the straits 
to begin with.
    Now I am not saying it is impossible to dislodge them, but 
it will be a tougher fight. So my own view is we want to 
develop the kinds of capabilities that we are pursuing in the 
Army, along with the rest of the Joint Force, to basically 
present a sufficiently strong deterrent force to make the 
Chinese continue to think twice, year after year, about whether 
they want to actually undertake that amphibious landing.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. My time has expired. General, I 
wanted to ask you about the PACOM's [Pacific Command] 1251 
report and what that means for the Army's posture in that 
region, so I will give that to you as a question for the 
record, and I will follow up with you about the Fort Leonard 
Wood.
    Thank you both very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Now let me now 
recognize, via Webex, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary 
Wormuth, you and I have talked about the scourge of sexual 
violence in the military at length, and you understand that for 
the last 8 years this Committee has been trying to have a vote 
on a bright line to take out all serious crimes from the chain 
of command, to create a more professional system, to create an 
unbiased system, to create a system where our trained military 
prosecutors can make the first judgment about whether a case 
should go to trial.
    As you know, about 3 percent of commanders have the right 
to make this decision about whether a case should go to court 
martial. So if the prosecutor decides a case should not go 
forward it will go back to that 3 percent of commanders, who 
then will have the opportunity to do a summary, a court 
martial, or a special court martial, or charge a related or a 
lesser crime, and get NJP [non-judicial punishment].
    So given this, I would like your assessment of whether this 
is a recommendation that you will support, number one. I know 
in your written testimony you intend to take all 70 
recommendations from the Fort Hood Independent Review 
Commission, which, as you know, suggests taking sexual assault 
out of the chain of command and creating an independent SHARP 
program. So you have already said you support that.
    What is your assessment of a bright line on all serious 
crimes, and as part of your analysis I would like you to 
consider the data that has been developed by the military and 
the report by Protect Our Defenders that showed that black and 
brown servicemembers are up to 2.5 times more likely to be 
punished for serious crimes than their white counterparts? So I 
would like you to talk a little bit about how you see reforming 
the military justice system so that it is fair, unbiased, and 
guarantees civil rights and civil liberties for all 
servicemembers.
    Secretary Wormuth. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand, and thank 
you, first of all, for your leadership on this issue. You have 
been working on this issue for years. It is a problem that we 
all want to solve, that I know all senior leaders and all 
leaders in the Army want to solve, so I appreciate everything 
you have done.
    A few thoughts. As I said earlier with Senator Hirono, I do 
think that focusing on prevention, and doing more on the 
prevention side, is, I think, where we will really see more 
success in reducing the prevalence of sexual harassment and 
sexual assault in our military. But accountability is 
important. I think----
    Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Wormuth, can you speak to why 
you think prevention is the panacea here? Because we have 
passed over a dozen laws to implement prevention measure, and 
the GAO [Government Accountability Office] reviewed all the 
laws we have passed on prevention and what they found was that 
more than 30 recommendations and prior works, specifically 
related to DOD's effort to prevent sexual assault and address 
the needs of certain populations in the sexual assault 
prevention and response efforts. What they found that a lot of 
the recommendations and laws that we passed just have not been 
implemented.
    So what change do you imagine would have to happen for the 
command and the DOD to take the prevention measures seriously, 
given that we have given you 8 years of prevention measures and 
they are not being implemented?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, first, I do not think 
prevention is a panacea. I think we have to pursue this problem 
across a spectrum, from prevention to accountability. So I want 
to be clear on that.
    I think really what we have to focus on is pushing 
responsibility for a positive command climate, caring for our 
soldiers down to the lowest level possible, and that is what we 
are trying to do through the This Is My Squad initiative, 
through the redesign of our SHARP program, and also through, 
frankly, selecting our leaders, looking more closely at their 
previous command climate performance. So making sure the people 
we put in charge are people who have been able to create 
positive command climates. I think all of that will be helpful, 
and that is something we are going to have to work hard on, and 
work hard on year after year after year, not just sort of when 
there is a crisis and then we become complacent.
    Senator Gillibrand. But do you not think that actually 
prosecuting sexual assailants who are predators, who are often 
recidivists, and putting them in jail would also prevent 
crimes, since we have many examples of sexual assaulters who 
were not prosecuted in the first instance and went on to not 
only assault others, including children as one of the most 
recent examples. Don't you think it would be far better to 
actually treat these cases appropriately and put sexual 
predators in jail?
    Secretary Wormuth. We do absolutely have to hold 
perpetrators and predators accountable, and it is for that 
reason that one of the things I think makes a lot of sense is 
increasing the specialization of the individuals in the Army 
and in the military writ large, who prosecute these cases. You 
know, I think one of the recommendations that we have seen is 
to basically help both our investigators and our prosecutors 
build more specialization in special victims crimes, and given 
the complexity and sensitive nature of those kinds of crimes, 
that is something that I am open-minded to and think would be 
beneficial for us.
    Senator Gillibrand. Will you review, for this Committee, 
the issues of racial disparity and the recommendations that by 
giving the decision-making to trained prosecutors you can also 
eliminate bias with regard to racism?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, what I have been focused on in 
my time in the job so far has been specifically the sexual 
harassment and sexual assault set of crimes. So that is where I 
have been focused. It is clear that there are disparities in 
our justice system for people of color. I have not been able to 
look into that in depth, but my initial assessment of this 
issue, or I should say my initial sense of this issue is that 
some of those disparities may be happening more on the 
investigation side of the ledger rather than on the prosecution 
side. But this is something I would want to study further.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Now let me 
now recognize Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for being here today. General, in your family service, you have 
got all of your kids in the military. That's awesome.
    I am a people person. You had your budget cut, and we need 
things to fight with. But the number one thing we need is 
people. With the cuts, how do we address pay and pay raises for 
our troops? With this inflation rising every day 5 percent, it 
looks like there is no stop to it. Number one, how do we 
recruit, and how do we pay our troops with the cuts that we are 
having? Both of you.
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Tuberville, good to see you. Why 
don't I start. I would say on the recruiting side, it is a 
tough environment. As you said, we are competing against all 
sorts of companies that are starting to increase their wages 
and so on. We are trying to bring in 61,000 soldiers this year. 
We think we are on track for that. But we are sending out a 
large number of recruiters to really showcase all of the things 
that the Army can offer to people all around the country who 
want to join. As part of that, in the President's Budget 2022 
we have a 2.7 percent pay increase for our soldiers, and that 
is a pretty good pay increase. I think we looked carefully at 
that issue. We also have, as you know, our Tuition Assistance 
Program, which is very popular with soldiers.
    So we really try to use a range of the things that we do to 
be able to bring in the quality best and brightest that we need 
in the Army every year, to keep us healthy and at the size that 
we need.
    General, do you want to build on that?
    General McConville. Yeah, thank you, and, I am very 
thankful that our soldiers and our civilians got a pay raise 
this year, and we are very appreciative of that, and we think 
that is extremely important. But as the Secretary said, we are 
in a war for talent, with young men and women. The advantage we 
have in the Army, and we have to continue to work this, is they 
want purpose in their life and they want to belong to a team, 
and we can do both for them. Once we get them in we have to 
compete for their talents and make sure that we are putting 
them in a place where we are taking full advantage of their 
talents. We are actually being fairly successful at that.
    We wake up every day making sure we can maintain the all-
volunteer force. We want a force where there is no harmful 
behaviors, so parents are looking at us, and hey, this is a 
good place that I want to send my kids, and this is a great 
place to get ahead, for working class people. They can go to 
school and get an education, they get discipline, and all those 
wonderful things. So that is what we are doing, Senator.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you very much. 
Speaking of recruiting, Secretary, you probably did not have 
anything to do with this, but last month the Army released an 
animated marketing campaign titled ``The Calling"--I am sure 
you are familiar with +that--which was aimed at reaching the 
Generation Z audience with its storylines. This campaign cost 
approximately $4 million to produce. The campaign received so 
many negative comments, the Army took the comments section 
down.
    The Army should seek to recruit the best and brightest to 
protect our country, regardless of their background, because it 
is the generals' the captains' and the lieutenants' jobs, once 
they get there, to build them into a fighting force. My staff 
has asked for performance metrics on the campaign. Can I get 
your commitment that we will be given a thorough briefing on 
quantitative measures?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, we would be happy to brief you 
on the campaign, and what we know about how well it has 
performed. I would also just like to emphasize that as the 
general said, we are in a war for talent. We are trying to 
reach young people around America, all across the country, from 
all sorts of different backgrounds. We are trying to recruit 
Generation Z and those younger than them, and the days of Super 
Bowl ads maybe have been replaced by YouTube and other things.
    So part of what we are doing is trying to also figure out 
which innovative recruiting techniques is most successful and 
resonates with all sorts of folks around the country. But I 
would be happy to come back and brief you on the campaign, at 
your convenience.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. It is important that we get 
the best, because they do not make a lot, and as the general 
said here, we are fighting big tech, you are fighting people 
that are going to be paying a lot more money. I have got 
buddies in the Army, been in there for a long time, and they 
struggle, them and their families, as a lot of people across 
this country struggle, especially with the times that we are in 
right now. We have just got to take care of our people first, 
because that is our life blood. We were talking to the 
Selective Service not too long ago. We discussed this. Thirty-
five million people are eligible for the draft and only 450,000 
eligible to serve in our military. That is scary. That is 
really scary. So we have got to do everything possible to sell 
the point that the military is somewhere that they can come, 
get a great education, get a great life, raise their families, 
and be great Americans.
    Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Let me now 
recognize Senator King, please.
    Senator King. Madam Secretary, my first piece of advice is 
don't talk about Super Bowl ads not working to a former 
football coach.
    Secretary Wormuth. Good point.
    Senator King. I want to welcome you to the Committee and 
congratulate you on your nomination and confirmation.
    Page 4 of the charts that you gave us, I am a little 
confused, and I want to get to the terminology to really get a 
fix on how this budget really works. OCO [Overseas Contingency 
Operations] seems to have disappeared. OCO was a significant 
part of the budget over the last 4 or 5 years. It is not in 
your chart. There is a little dotted line, but you talk about 
direct war costs and enduring costs of about $18 billion. Is 
that what we used to call OCO? General, you are nodding.
    Secretary Wormuth. Essentially, yes, Senator King. I think 
there has been a debate, as you undoubtedly know, for years, 
about trying to ensure we were providing sufficient 
transparency into the budget.
    Senator King. Listen, I agree. I have always been skeptical 
of OCO as a kind of slush up and down. So what you are really 
proposing is a higher base budget with less OCO, and I presume 
part of it, OCO last year was about $24 billion, under your 
formulation it is about--what we are thinking of as OCO, direct 
war and enduring costs, $18 billion. Does that reflect, in some 
measure, the reduction of costs in Afghanistan, for example?
    Secretary Wormuth. There is a small reduction in costs 
associated with our retrograde out of Afghanistan, Senator, but 
I do not believe it is a large one.
    Senator King. Okay. Hopefully we are going to have a little 
more transparent budget in the future, where OCO, the 
expenditures on war costs are part of the budget. Is that 
correct?
    Secretary Wormuth. That is the goal, yes.
    Senator King. Okay. Thank you. General McConville, you used 
the word ``convergence'' in one of the answers to your 
question, in terms of joint operability. One of your colleagues 
the other day said he had to pry data out of one of the other 
service branches. We have got joint operations. That was 
Goldwater-Nichols. My sense is, however, we need more in the 
way of joint compatibility of software and capability 
acquisition. Is that a sensible thing to be talking about?
    General McConville. Absolutely, Senator, and one of the 
things that we have done, and I have done it in conjunction 
with the other service chiefs, is we have stood up what we call 
the Joint Systems Integration Lab at Aberdeen. Because the 
future of convergence is really the ability to pass data from 
system to system, and to do it in a contested environment. If 
you want to pass an F-35 to some type of weapons system on the 
ground or some type of sensor, what that allows us to do is go 
up there, figure out how to move that data, test it, and then 
we go out into Yuma and do Project Convergence in the dirt. You 
have already got a way to do that.
    Senator King. But this is sort of the 21st century version 
of the phones not talking to each other in Grenada, where we 
could not communicate.
    General McConville. Well, I think what we are doing, 
Senator, is making sure that we can pass data between all the 
different types of systems we have in the joint system. That is 
what the intent is, and then next year we go to make sure we 
can do it with our allies and partners.
    Senator King. I look forward to working with you on that, 
because I think that is a very important point going forward.
    Missile defense and deterrence. Iron Dome appears to be a 
very effective system as it has been operating in Israel. It 
has saved a lot of lives. We were involved in the development 
of Iron Dome. Are we taking advantage of that capability, and 
is that something----
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. As I think you know, we 
have two batteries right now. We are going through the process 
of training our soldiers on that. That is the interim program, 
and what we are working with them and some others is how does 
that fit into our integrated air and missile defense system. We 
want to be able to pass data from all the different systems. 
The future is you have multiple sensors, and you have multiple 
shooters, and you use an integrated battle command system for 
integrated air and missile defense. It will take the 
information from the different sensors, it will pick the right 
shooter, and then you get the most efficient capability when it 
comes to protecting forces against air threats.
    Senator King. So we are back to convergence of data and 
software.
    General McConville. Yes, we are, Senator.
    Senator King. My final question is, my concern is defense 
against hypersonics. That strikes me as a significant strategic 
challenge for this country. Is this something that is in your 
area, with the Army, or is this again a joint enterprise, 
because certainly the Navy has to worry about hypersonics?
    General McConville. Well, we are all concerned about that, 
and I think we could take that in a different form with the 
Missile Defense Agency and talk through, probably in another 
forum, where we are on that, Senator.
    Senator King. Fine. Thank you. Thank you both. Thank you 
for your service. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King, and now let me now 
recognize, via Webex, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed, of course 
Ranking Member Inhofe. I really appreciate you holding this 
hearing, and I would love to thank the witnesses for testifying 
today and for their service.
    I would like to speak a little bit about Hawthorne Army 
Depot which is located in Nevada. So Secretary Wormuth, 
Nevada's Hawthorne Army Depot, it is the world's largest--the 
world's largest--ammunition depot and demilitarization 
facility. The depot stores and demilitarizes munitions, it 
ensures munitions readiness for DOD, amongst other things. It 
also supports the Services by hosting military training. It has 
very unique terrain. All throughout Nevada we have, with the 
Air Force Nevada Test and Training Range and, of course, up in 
northern Nevada Fallon Naval Air Station. So we have unique 
Afghanistan-like terrain throughout Nevada.
    In 2005, there were attempts to close Hawthorne, but it is 
mission critical, and again, it is the world's largest 
ammunition depot. I am grateful that its closure did not come 
to fruition. So given Hawthorne's contributions to our national 
security, will you commit to working with me to ensure that the 
depot continues its important work serving our warfighters?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator, I would be happy to work with 
you on making sure that we continue to keep the capabilities at 
Hawthorne that we need. It sounds like they offer a variety of 
capabilities to our Army, and I would look forward to gaining a 
more in-depth understanding of Hawthorne, and again, making 
sure that it fits into future Army requirements.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I would like to move on to a 
little bit of tactical cybersecurity, because, of course, 
Senator King brought that up. We are going to have convergence 
of data, of software, hardware, software, firmware, all of it. 
Multiple points of vulnerability. Every time we add something 
on we can create a new stress point or a new access point.
    So, General McConville, in recent years Army Cyber Command, 
you have been fielding units to enhance our ground commanders' 
tactical cyber capabilities, such as intelligence, information, 
cyber, electronic warfare, and space detachment and the 915th 
Cyber Warfare Battalion. So, General McConville, what are the 
Army's plans for the growth of this mission, and in which 
theaters do you see the Army employing these cyber units? Is it 
something that you envision for the Indo-Pacific with our NATO 
[North Atlantic Treaty Organization] allies, or possibly in 
Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan? I am just curious how you see it 
expanding.
    General McConville. Well, Senator, right now, when you talk 
about--we have to use an acronym, but it is I2CEWS which is 
intelligence, information, cyber, electronic warfare, and 
space. We are standing up the new multi-domain task force that 
has that capability at Joint Base Lewis-McChord with the focus 
on the Indo-Pacific. The second multi-domain task force is 
being stood up inside of Europe, and we are looking at third 
for the Pacific, and we are in the process of developing that 
also.
    We see this capability as extremely important for the 
future. We see, in the competition space, in the crisis space, 
the notion that we are going to have to have these type of 
capabilities, and we are in the processing of standing those 
organizations up and bringing them to fruition.
    Senator Rosen. Well, I would like to build on that, because 
how do you envision retaining these high-skilled cyber soldiers 
when NCOs [Non-Commissioned Officer], warrants, and even 
officers can find more lucrative and more balance work-life 
opportunities in cybersecurity jobs in the private sector? So 
you not only have to grow up your staff, train them, retrain 
them, and upskill them--there is always new technology, 
obviously--but how are you going to keep the people you have?
    General McConville. Well, I think that is a great question. 
With some of the people that are willing to stay in the Army, 
sometimes they surprise me. I was just down at the software 
factory at Austin, Texas, and we just stood this up because we 
are going to need people with these types of capabilities. 
There is a specialist, an E-4 down there, that, quite frankly, 
was a medic in our Army, and when we put out a call for coders 
he answered the call and he is probably one of the best in the 
Army, and the other people in that organization that have 
master's and Ph.D.'s recognize him as one of the very, very 
best we have.
    So we have got to have a talent management path for him and 
for others like him that they may become warrant officers or 
they may become incentivized, based on their level of 
experience. What we find is, if we can give them a good wage, 
and have them doing what they want to do, they will stay in the 
Army and they really like the mission that they have. Even 
though they could go outside and probably make a little more 
money, they really appreciate the mission. That is the feedback 
I get from the cyber operators that we have within Cyber 
Command.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you. I hope that we can help 
you. Senator Blackburn and I introduced a Civilian 
Cybersecurity Reserve Act to help you with a Civilian Cyber 
Reserve Corps, and so I look forward to working with you on 
that soon. Thank you.
    General McConville. Thank you, Senator.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator Sullivan, 
please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I appreciate 
the witnesses being here. Thanks for your service.
    Last week I shared this chart with Secretary Austin and 
General Milley on the prioritization of the Biden 
administration with regard to our military, and asked them the 
question, how do you tell our troops that you are prioritized 
when you clearly are not? If you can see this--and I will make 
sure you have a copy for the record--almost every Federal 
agency in the U.S. Government is getting double-digit increases 
with inflation, which is now, unfortunately, creeping up to 5 
percent. The U.S. military budget, homeland security budget is 
actually getting decreased. I find it completely unacceptable.
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    I asked the two leaders of the Pentagon, how do you tell 
the troops that you are prioritizing our military? They tried 
to answer. It was a tough question, because I am sure that they 
probably did not like the budget that they had to come to the 
Hill and defend.
    Madam Secretary and General, digging deeper, the Army--I 
mean, you guys are getting gutted. Let's call it like it is. 
Madam Secretary, in your confirmation hearing you told this 
Committee you do not want the Army to be the bill-payer for 
everybody else. You are the bill-payer right now, 4 percent 
cuts without inflation, with inflation you are almost double-
digit numbers. This is like 2015, when the Obama-Biden 
administration was trying to cut 40,000 troops from the U.S. 
Army, Active Duty. They did it.
    How do you explain this to your forces? This is tough on 
you. I know you did not like this. I know you did not like 
being the bill-payer, but you are. How are you telling your 
troops right now that the U.S. Army is prioritized, and why do 
you think you are taking it on the chin, in terms of your 
budget? Madam Secretary, I will start with you.
    Secretary Wormuth. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. I think 
what I tell our soldiers when I talk with them is that I am 
confident that at the budget we have we are able to----
    Senator Sullivan. Is this the budget you wanted?
    Secretary Wormuth. Certainly, I think----
    Senator Sullivan. Almost 10 percent cut in the Army, with 
inflation.
    Secretary Wormuth.--I would certainly welcome additional 
funds. Having seen, for example, you know, barracks at Fort 
Hood, I would absolutely welcome additional funds.
    Senator Sullivan. General, is this the Army you advocated 
for? Sorry to interrupt.
    General McConville. Well, Senator, I did----
    Senator Sullivan. This is a huge issue. It is not getting 
nearly enough attention.
    General McConville. Yeah.
    Senator Sullivan. The Biden administration is blowing out 
the Federal Government, $6 trillion in spending. Okay? But with 
regard to the U.S. Army they are saying, ``Sorry, guys, ladies. 
You are getting nothing.'' So this is a real problem. General?
    General McConville. No, I just--I said I laid out our 
requirements. We have our budget and we have our unfunded 
requirements that I sent a letter to this Committee and all the 
other committees that lay out, if we can get additional money 
that is where we want to put it, and we would like to get that 
additional money.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, I am going to advocate strongly for 
additional money for the U.S. Army. I think this is dangerous, 
and I think it is clear that the Biden administration does not 
prioritize the military, but it really does not prioritize the 
Army.
    Let me ask, you know, a lot of your testimony--I have been 
watching it all morning--talks about tough choices. I agree 
with you, you have tough choices. General, you have done a 
phenomenal job, your leadership, on addressing what is a huge 
challenge with the U.S. Army in Alaska. In the last 5 years we 
have had 32 suicides. You know, we have only had 41--and every 
death is horrible--combat deaths in Afghanistan in the same 
time frame. I just want to get your commitment that when you 
make tough choices, the work you are doing on addressing 
suicide, in one of the most important places in the country, my 
state, is not going to be one of these tough choices that you 
leave on the cutting room floor, because the Biden 
administration will not fund the damn Army. Can I get your 
commitment on that? Lives are at stake.
    General McConville. Absolutely. It is about people first, 
Senator. You have my full commitment on that.
    Senator Sullivan. Madam Secretary?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes. Yes, you have my commitment as 
well.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me finally ask, can I just get a 
quick update? I know, Madam Secretary, you committed to meet, 
you and General McConville, to brief me on the Arctic plan from 
the Army. We are getting mixed messages. Secretary of Defense, 
in his confirmation hearing, said he was going to fully 
resource Arctic strategies of all the Services. General Milley 
said the same last week at the hearing. But General VanHerck, 
in his hearing last week, he mentioned that the DOD budget, 
this budget, is inching along, did not move the ball very far 
down the field in terms of military Arctic strategy, and as you 
know, as NORTHCOM [Northern Command] Commander he is the 
advocate.
    Can I just get an update from the two of you on that 
strategy, which I think you have done a great job on, and I 
look forward to the briefing I am going to be getting from both 
of you here in the next couple of weeks.
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Sullivan, we have resourced, in 
this year's budget, the strategy, the Arctic strategy that the 
Army put forward to you, and I have not lost track of my 
commitment to come and brief you, so I am looking forward to 
doing that as well. I do not know if General McConville has 
anything else to add.
    General McConville. I think, Senator, you and I talked 
about the strategy is focused on being able to operate in the 
Arctic, which is a little different than operating from Alaska. 
We are putting that together. We will have more of an 
operational command up there. You tend to have an 
administrative command right now, but as you take a look at the 
fact that you are going to want to compete up there, we are 
taking a look. We have talked about the type of organizations 
we will put in there. We have got some more coordination to do, 
but we have a vision of where we want to go, and that is funded 
in the resources we have right now. There is some other 
collaboration that needs to be done on the type of units. We 
have a Stryker brigade up there, and as we take a look at what 
the future of that brigade looks like, that may change, and 
that is where we are having discussions right now.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to continue 
along the lines of my colleague, Senator Sullivan, on budget 
issues, and I think the key is this Committee has to make a 
decision. The President has given us a budget and we have to 
make a decision about what we think is right. But I want to dig 
into this question of the Biden administration proposal and is 
it a ``cut.'' I am looking at a document, and it is the FYDP 
[Future Years Defense Program] that the Trump administration 
sent to us last year in April, April 2020. Page 195, table 616, 
this was the Trump administration's proposal for Army funding. 
Fiscal year 2021 it was $177 billion. But in this table, the 
Trump administration predicted, their projection was that in 
fiscal year 2022 they were going to make the Army undergo a 10 
percent cut. I am looking at this table and it shows fiscal 
year 2021 $177 billion, but they project that the Army was 
going to drop to $164 billion in fiscal year 2022. That was the 
Trump administration's plan that they submitted to Congress 
last April.
    The Biden administration did not follow the Trump plan for 
$164 billion. My understanding, and I think I am correct, is 
that the top line that is now before us is $173 billion. Am I 
right about the top line in the President's Budget, that it is 
$173 billion, not $164 billion?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, Senator. That is right.
    Senator Kaine. At what point in your budget deliberations 
did you switch from the Trump-era projection of $164 billion to 
the dollar amount that was submitted in the President's Budget 
of $173 billion?
    Secretary Wormuth. Senator Kaine, I think I am going to 
have to let General McConville speak to that because I was not 
yet the Secretary during the budget deliberations.
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. As far as the budget 
discussions, I was not aware, as far as we were planning 
through the process, on how that was going to play out, what 
was enduring OCO, what was OCO, and all those type things. So I 
cannot give you a good answer to that but I will take a look 
and come back to you.
    Senator Kaine. Yeah, I would like to ask that for the 
record, and, Mr. Chair, if I could, I would like to submit the 
FYDP that was submitted to us last April 2020, for the record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The information referred to can be found in the Appendix.]
    Senator Kaine. Because I think what it shows is that 
contrary--again, the question of what is the right dollar level 
for the Army is a very legitimate one, and we may well decide, 
as a committee, that the President's request is not sufficient. 
I have done that before and I may do it again. But if I am 
thinking about who is proposing to cut, I am sure glad that 
President Biden recommended a $173 billion top line instead of 
$164 billion top line, which was suggested by the FYDP that the 
Trump administration gave us over a year ago.
    That is the only questions that I have, Mr. Chair, and I 
will yield time back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kaine, and I 
believe that we have concluded all of our colleagues who wished 
to speak. At this point let me thank the Secretary for her 
comments and General McConville for your comments, both of you 
for your extraordinary service. With that I will call the 
hearing adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:20 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
             integrated visual augmentation solution radios
    1. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, in 
the fiscal year 2022 budget request, the Army appears to request that 
funds intended for IVAS radios be transferred from the IVAS funding 
line to the Handheld, Manpack and Small Form Fit (HMS) line. This is a 
new program and new start in fiscal year 2022. Can you ensure that the 
funding requested will support a full and open competition and 
procurement process for the IVAS radios?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Procurement of the single 
channel IVAS radios is not a new program start. The Fiscal Year 2022 
President's Budget Request outlined the intent to manage the IVAS 
radios within the HMS program. The single channel radio (IVAS) 
requirement will be executed through a January 2021 approved Middle 
Tier of Acquisition (MTA) Rapid Fielding pathway. An Other Transaction 
Agreement (OTA) Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) 
contract was awarded on 25 March 2021. The program office will continue 
to utilize competitively awarded contracts using best value source 
selection procedures.

            enhanced night vision goggle-binocular (envg-b)
    2. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
fiscal year 2022 request for ENVG-B is approximately $218 million, 
however, according to last year's budget justification documents, the 
projected budget request for ENVG-B procurement in fiscal year 2023 
would be about $6 million. That is a significant cut to a program that 
is being fielded and receiving positive feedback. Does the Army still 
plan to request $6 million in procurement for ENVG-B in fiscal year 
2023 or will that number be revised?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army will consider an 
appropriate revision to the Army's fiscal year 2023 budget request for 
the ENVG-B in order to prioritize resources in accordance with the 
National Defense Strategy and our Modernization Priorities. Following 
the Night Vision Modernization Strategy, the Army is initially focusing 
on the IVAS, which is expected to be the night vision device of choice 
for our Close Combat Force Soldiers, while the ENVG-B systems will be 
used by the Close Area Combat Force units. While the ENVG-B has 
received very positive feedback and is a leap forward from older night 
vision devices (such as the PVS-14), it does not necessarily provide 
overmatch against current and future adversaries.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
         army multi-domain transformation and the indo-pacific
    3. Senator Hirono. General McConville, the Army's #1 modernization 
priority is long-range precision fires--including missiles you're 
planning to base in the Western Pacific--can you provide a general 
status update on the progress of getting allies and partners in the 
Region to agree to host these weapon systems?
    General McConville. Rather than seeking permanent basing, the Army 
(with United States Army Pacific in the lead) is prioritizing the 
necessary agreements and infrastructure to ensure rotational access for 
Long Range Precision Fires (LRPF) and other Army capabilities inside 
the first island chain during competition. At this time, the Army is 
not seeking permanent basing of LRPF in the Western Pacific, but it is 
seeking the necessary access to posture LRPF in competition and for 
contingency.
        army's hawaii infrastructure readiness initiative (hiri)
    4. Senator Hirono. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, I'm 
concerned about the Army's long-term effort to modernize installations 
in Hawaii through MILCON, known generally as the Hawaii Infrastructure 
Readiness Initiative--the only two projects funded in this year's 
budget are for the West Loch ammunition storage annex and a veterinary 
treatment facility at Pearl Harbor. Three other projects--an Aviation 
Operations Building and a Rotary Wing Parking Apron at Wheeler Army 
Airfield and a Command and Control Facility at Fort Shafter--are on 
your unfunded requirements list. Given the Army's focus on supporting 
the joint force to deter China in the Pacific, why aren't these three 
high risk MILCON projects that you identified on your unfunded 
requirements list in the base budget request?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is concerned 
about the condition of its infrastructure in Hawaii and the impacts 
that substandard facilities have on readiness and Soldier quality of 
life. The Army must balance these requirements against all 
requirements, across all installations, in support of quality of life, 
readiness, and modernization. The Army intends to address the Rotary 
Wing Parking Apron, the Aviation Operations Building, and the final 
increment for the Command and Control Facility in future budget cycles 
if they are not authorized and appropriated in this budget.
                    renewal of training land leases
    5. Senator Hirono. General McConville, the Army is negotiating 
renewals for several training area land leases in Hawaii that are set 
to expire in 2029, including the Pohakuloa Training Area (PTA), which 
is critical for joint and partner nation readiness. It's important for 
the Army to conduct respectful engagement with local community leaders, 
especially the Native Hawaiian population. Is the Army Corps of 
Engineers' plan to stand up a Training Lands Retention Office by August 
of this year to work with the local community still on track?
    General McConville. Yes, the plan to stand up a Training Lands 
Retention office is on track and a program manager is expected to be 
hired by the end of August. This employee will work directly for the 
U.S. Army Pacific, Director of Training, as well as working in close 
partnership with both U.S. Army Hawaii and the U.S. Army Garrison 
Hawaii to accomplish program objectives. The position will enable a 
close working relationship with the local community.
                      army multi-domain task force
    6. Senator Hirono. General McConville, the Army's Multi-Domain Task 
Force (MDTF) is focused on defeating an enemy's anti-access/area denial 
capabilities. Is the Army still planning to stand up additional MDTFs 
beyond the one at Joint Base Lewis McCord in Washington State, and if 
so, where will they be located?
    General McConville. The Secretary of Defense announced in April 
that the Army will activate the second MDTF in Germany in September 
2021. We are reviewing options for additional MDTFs, including added 
support for USINDOPACOM. However, given competing demands and available 
force structure, the Army has not yet made final decisions on where and 
when to grow additional MDTFs.

    7. Senator Hirono. General McConville, what steps is the Army 
taking to ensure the MDTFs can work closely with our allies and 
partners?
    General McConville. The Army has incrementally introduced MDTF 
concepts and capabilities with select countries interested in multi-
domain operations. We are also initiating a Capability Gap Analysis to 
identify which Joint and Multi-Domain Operations (MDO) capabilities and 
linkages are required to integrate MDO with our allies and partners.
    In the Indo-Pacific, United States Army Pacific (USARPAC) shapes 
force design and employment concepts. USARPAC and the Headquarters, 
Department of the Army will incorporate MDTF concepts with select 
allies and partner countries through Indo-Pacific Pathways exercises, 
joint exercises, concept development, and wargaming.
    In Europe, the Army will activate a MDTF in mid-September 2021. 
This capability has received significant interest from allies and 
partners. As MDTF-Europe comes on-line, U.S. Army Europe-Africa 
(USAREUR-AF) will engage with specific allies and partners to refine 
region-specific requirements.

    8. Senator Hirono. General McConville, what additional MILCON 
projects do you anticipate being necessary to support the establishment 
of future MDTFs?
    General McConville. In the immediate term, no additional MILCON 
projects are necessary. The Army is using Operations and Maintenance 
(O&M) Restoration and Modernization (R&M) funds to adapt existing 
facilities to meet experimental or interim stationing of MDTFs. The 
Army will evaluate several stationing alternatives before making 
permanent stationing decisions in accordance with applicable laws and 
regulations. The Army is also conducting a facility Requirements 
Analysis to scope future MILCON submissions. Once the evaluation of 
permanent stationing alternatives (pursuant to NEPA and Army 
Regulations) is complete, the Army will be in a better position to 
identify and request future MILCON projects.
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                Questions Submitted by Senator Tim Kaine
department of army budget change from fiscal year 2021 fydp projection 
                          to fiscal year 2022
    9. Senator Kaine. Secretary Wormuth, when did the Army begin to 
plan to a top line budget of $173 billion for fiscal year 2022?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army conducted concurrent planning for 
different top lines throughout the POM 22 build in fiscal year 2020; 
however, it was not until the second quarter of fiscal year 2021 that 
the Army received specific guidance of a $173 billion top line. At this 
time the Army began deliberate planning based on that number.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Gary C. Peters
                                stryker
    10. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Stryker combat vehicle has proven itself to be one of the Army's most 
versatile platforms and continues to expand its missions beyond its 
core function as an infantry carrier. For example, Stryker was selected 
as the platform for critical fielding of urgently needed short-range 
air defense systems using both traditional missiles and cannon, as well 
as cutting-edge technology lasers. Stryker is also the platform for the 
Army's next generation of Electronic Warfare and Signals Intelligence 
systems and mobile command posts outside the Stryker Brigade 
formations. The key to being able to perform these expanded missions is 
the Army's decision in 2018 to upgrade to the newest Stryker A1 
configuration that provides more engine and electrical power, a digital 
network, and a much heavier suspension. Does the pace of modernization 
outlined in your budget request reflect the Stryker's expanding 
missions?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Yes, it does. The 
modernization efforts for the Stryker portfolio represent the Army's 
commitment to preparing Stryker Brigade Combat Teams (SBCT) to fight 
and win in a dynamic and complex operational environment. All aspects 
of the Army's budget request are nested and synchronized to develop a 
modern force capable of meeting worldwide contingencies. The lethality 
upgrades for the Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station- Javelin, the 
Medium Caliber Weapon System, and the Anti-Tank Guided Missiles Vehicle 
prepare the SBCT to meet its expanding mission set on the future 
battlefield. These upgrades will yield six DVHA1-equipped, very 
capable, and lethal, SBCTs by the end of fiscal year 2030.
    The Army budget request also accelerates funding for the SBCT's 
Stryker platform to incorporate the Terrestrial Layered System (TLS), 
which integrates Electronic Warfare, Signals Intelligence, and Cyber 
Warfare at the tactical edge of battle. We are funding four and one 
half SBCT sets of TLS between fiscal year 2021 and fiscal year 2022. 
Additionally, the Army is funding 96 Mobile Short Range Air Defense (M-
SHORAD) integrated Stryker vehicles in fiscal year 2021 and fiscal year 
2022 to defend Army Brigade Combat Teams (BCTs) against manned and 
unmanned aircraft systems.

    11. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, I am 
concerned that a planned effort to test two Active Protection Systems 
(APS) on the Stryker continues to be delayed and is listed in the 
Army's unfunded requirements list. How would not funding this testing 
impact the procurement of an APS for Strykers?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The $21 million unfunded 
requirements list request would support multiple efforts. Specifically, 
$16 million is required to complete Phase 2 Iron Fist Light Decoupled 
(IF-LD) Urgent Materiel Release (UMR) documentation on the Bradley 
Fighting Vehicle (BFV) and $5 million is required to execute Limited 
Characterization (LC) of two Hard-Kill (HK) Active Protection System 
(APS) solutions informing the APS requirement on the Stryker vehicle. 
If the $16 million for BFV is not resourced, then logistic product 
development and verification, engineering change proposal release, 
vehicle software updates, and the UMR will not be completed. This will 
result in a day-for-day slip in procurement and fielding of a hard kill 
capability in support of the Directed Requirement. If the $5 million 
for LC is not resourced, the Army will be unable to determine if either 
HK APS solutions meet the specifications, or if integration of either 
system onto a Stryker platform is feasible without the performance data 
captured during the characterization effort. Therefore, the Army will 
be unable to proceed with the planned procurement of a HK APS solution 
for Stryker if the unfunded requirement is not resourced.
                               m-1 abrams
    12. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Abrams Main Battle Tank as currently upgraded to the M1A2 SEPV3 
configuration remains the world's best tank and is the backbone of the 
Army's most powerful formation, the Armored Brigade Combat Team (ABCT). 
I am concerned to see a 30 percent reduction in ``version 3'' upgrades 
when Russia is another year closer to fielding and exporting the T-14 
Armata. What is affected by the 30 percent reduction reflected in the 
budget request?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The 30 percent reduction 
will reduce Abrams production from one ABCT per year to three fourths 
of an ABCT per year and will reduce the number of brigade field 
modifications from two BCTs to one BCT in fiscal year 2022. The 
reduction in funding is due to the significant amount of funding placed 
in Abrams production over the past four years, the necessity to fund 
other critical Army modernization priorities, and the reduction in the 
Army's fiscal year 2022 budget.

    13. Senator Peters. General McConville, is this an acceptable level 
of risk?
    General McConville. The production at three fourths of an ABCT per 
year places Abrams at a moderate programmatic risk (which can be 
mitigated through Foreign Military Sales) and a low operational risk 
due to the significant amount of Abrams M1A2SEPv3 production in past 
years. As the Army is modernizing tanks at a faster rate than the rest 
of the combat vehicles in the ABCT, this allows the ability to focus on 
other critical Army modernization priorities.
                        critical infrastructure
    14. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, as 
co-Chair of the Defense Communities Caucus, I believe the Defense 
Community Infrastructure Program (DCIP) to be invaluable. But at the 
same time, I believe it could do more to strengthen communities' 
critical infrastructure to prevent cyber-driven disruptions that impact 
force projection and readiness. While studying how cyber-originating 
disruptions can impact force projection, the Army Cyber Institute's 
Jack Voltaic Project developed a software-based framework for local 
governments to rehearse their cyber incident response capabilities. Do 
you see merit in equipping municipalities with solutions like this 
through a DCIP-like process?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Yes, providing 
communities programs like Jack Voltaic through a Defense Critical 
Infrastructure Program-like process is important. This is true not only 
to the communities involved, but also to maintain our national 
security. To help local governments prepare for potential crises, Jack 
Voltaic was created to bring the whole-of-community together. This 
program ensures industry and the national security enterprise, as well 
as federal, state, and local governments are brought together in an 
unclassified exercise environment to understand the challenges for 
communities, to develop incident response plans, and to them capture 
lessons learned. The ultimate goal of this program is to develop an 
exportable framework that communities throughout the United States can 
use to run an exercise for themselves and to ensure DOD preparedness 
for Defense Support to Civil Authorities (DSCA) requests.
    Past efforts illuminated cyber response challenges for financial 
institutions in New York City; addressing attacks against multiple 
infrastructure sectors after a hurricane in Houston; city-wide cyber 
responses in eight locations, as well as disruption of Army force 
projection via highways, railroads, and the ports of Savannah and 
Charleston. The Jack Voltaic planning tools show great potential 
through a DCIP-like process, both to exercise the cyber resilience of 
communities near military bases, but also for the Army to exercise 
force projection with critical infrastructure owners and operators. 
This software framework is at an initial operating capability, but 
needs additional development and testing before wider distribution.

    15. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, will 
you explore ways to translate the institute's work into something 
useable for communities?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army Cyber Institute 
(ACI) has already begun the work needed for communities to conduct 
independent Jack Voltaic-like events. Currently, ACI has issued grants 
to universities for development of exercise planning tools that will 
allow communities to create their own scenarios, conduct their own 
exercises, and share data and lessons learned among various 
communities. The work is expected to be fully operational and ready to 
transfer to communities in fiscal year 2023, depending on future 
funding.
                        professional development
    16. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, the budget request shows a 
significant reduction in Army Tuition assistance, citing an 
``anticipated reduction of intake rates'' into the program. Will this 
translate to less funds available to soldiers pursuing off-duty 
civilian education (e.g., lowering $4,000 limit per fiscal year)?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army Cyber Institute (ACI) has already begun 
the work needed for communities to conduct independent Jack Voltaic-
like events. Currently, ACI has issued grants to universities for 
development of exercise planning tools that will allow communities to 
create their own scenarios, conduct their own exercises, and share data 
and lessons learned among various communities. The work is expected to 
be fully operational and ready to transfer to communities in fiscal 
year 2023, depending on future funding.

    17. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, is the reduction in any way 
related to the current problems stemming from the transition to 
ArmyIgnitED from GoArmyEd?
    Secretary Wormuth. No, the current challenge with bringing 
ArmyIgnitED fully online is unrelated to the President's Budget 
Request. ArmyIgnitED replaces the outdated legacy system and supports 
participation by allowing Soldiers to request tuition assistance 
through an automated process.

    18. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, when will the ArmyIgnitED-
related problems be resolved?
    Secretary Wormuth. ArmyIgnitED opened, Army-wide, for tuition 
assistance enrollments on July 19, 2021. The transition to ArmyIgnitED 
continues to progress as technical issues are resolved. Soldiers are 
able to use ArmyIgnitED for those educational institutions that have 
uploaded their institutional degree files into the system. Currently, 
there are 92 schools with successful integration into the ArmyIgnitED 
platform. Soldiers will continue to gain greater access to the 
ArmyIgnitED platform as more educational institutions successfully 
enter into the system. As an interim measure, while schools continue to 
enter into the system, the direct enrollment option with educational 
institutions through an exception to policy is still available should 
any Soldier be unable to enroll through ArmyIgnitED. The Army will 
continue working with those participating schools who have not yet 
uploaded their institutional degree files as well as with our Soldiers 
who need to use the exception to policy process to enroll.
                        multi-domain task force
    19. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Multi-Domain Task Force is the organizational centerpiece for Army 
modernization, yet its Intelligence, Information, Cyber, Electronic 
Warfare, and Space (I2CEWS) Detachment and the All-Domain Operations 
Center are on the list of unfunded requirements. As these are relevant 
in competition, crisis, and conflict, why are they not in the base 
budget?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army's fiscal year 
2022 budget request reflected the Army's highest priorities. 
Recognizing the importance of the Multi-Domain Task Force, the Army 
would welcome an opportunity to accelerate the Intelligence, 
Information, Cyber, Electronic Warfare, and Space (I2CEWS) Detachment 
and the All-Domain Operations Center requirements in fiscal year 2022, 
if additional funding is available.
                                  ampv
    20. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) is listed by the Army as one of 
its 31+4 key modernization programs but received a cut in funding of 
over $500 million from last year's budget position and there is no 
Unfunded Requirement listed for AMPV in the Army's request. 
Additionally, the budget exhibits highlight that this funding will be 
used for non-production activities and not actually procure any 
vehicles in fiscal year 2022. The Public Affairs Officer for the PEO 
who owns AMPV published a statement that identified the reason for the 
cut and that the program was re-baselined to support moving the Full 
Rate Production (FRP) decision to fiscal year 2023; however, by not 
including the Future Years Defense Plan (FYDP) in the Army's budget 
exhibits, this Committee is unable to validate that the PAOs statement 
is true and whether AMPV actually remains a priority for the Army. When 
will this Committee see the FYDP for AMPV?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. I understand that the 
Department of Defense intends to submit a fiscal year 2023 FYDP during 
the Fiscal Year 2023 President's Budget submission next year. That 
decision will be informed by the National Defense Strategy review 
process.
    The single year budget was submitted because the transitioning 
administration was developing its policies and strategic guidance 
necessary to inform the out-year budget plans. For the last two 
Presidential transition year budgets, for fiscal year 2010 and fiscal 
year 2018, DOD only submitted the next year Fiscal Year President's 
Budget.

    21. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, AMPV 
is the only Next Generation Combat Vehicle in production. Is it still a 
priority?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Yes, the Armored Multi-
Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) is managed by the Next Generation Combat Vehicle 
(NGCV) Cross-Functional Team (CFT) and is included in the Army's 31+4 
modernization priorities. Additionally, the Optionally Manned Fighting 
Vehicle is in development and is fully funded in fiscal year 2022. It 
is scheduled to begin replacing the Bradley Fighting Vehicle no earlier 
than fiscal year 2029.

    22. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Army and contractor have highlighted significant investments made for 
this program to include the first ever use of robotic welding on combat 
vehicles. Given our soldiers are currently using a Vietnam era vehicle, 
will Full Rate Production still occur at a rate to support the 
investments made for this program, which the Committee understands is 
at least 1 brigade set per year?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army remains fully 
committed to divesting the Vietnam-era M113 family of vehicles from our 
ABCTs as quickly as fiscally possible. For the Armored Multi-Purpose 
Vehicle (AMPV), the Army awarded four Low Rate Initial Production 
(LRIP) contracts for three and half Armored Brigade Combat Teams' 
(ABCTs) worth of AMPVs (or 457 vehicles), and those are being produced 
and will begin fielding in fiscal year 2023. The Army elected to re-
baseline the AMPV program last winter to provide the vendor more time 
to establish the production line and not because of any change in 
priority. AMPV remains an extremely important Army modernization 
effort. The next contract and the first Full-Rate Production (FRP) 
contract under this re-baseline is scheduled for fiscal year 2023.
                        tactical electrification
    23. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, during your confirmation 
hearing you testified that electrification of combat and tactical 
vehicles, as well as associated battery technology development would be 
focus areas for you if confirmed in order to better understand how 
deeply the Army could pursue tactical electrification noting 
operational benefits in fuel efficiencies and overall power management. 
The Administration has also placed emphasis in supporting the 
transition of the commercial automotive fleet to all-electric fleets 
through recent Executive Orders. As such, please provide more details 
on:
      The Army's near and long term strategy for tactical 
electrification.
    Secretary Wormuth. In the near term, we are partnering with U.S. 
industry through multiple initiatives to share knowledge and to learn 
from our collective investments. We are also investing in the 
technologies required to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, 
including power storage, rapid recharging, and integration of new 
capabilities into existing systems. Progress to date has
    demonstrated the potential for smarter use of power to improve 
mileage of our tactical wheeled vehicle fleets and the potential for 
hybrid power options to fulfill some of our vehicle power requirements. 
Fully electric options for our heaviest combat platforms are not 
currently feasible with existing and emerging technologies.
    The Futures and Concepts Center of U.S. Army Futures Command is 
developing a long-term electrification strategy for the Army. It is 
informed by national policy and strategies, industry plans and 
progress, and military requirements to implement the defense strategy. 
The strategy will describe the future Modernized Army Energy Ecosystem 
and identify ways and means to achieve it.
      How you are working with commercial industry to leverage 
the significant levels of internal research and development investment 
being made by automotive companies?
    Secretary Wormuth. Our Ground Vehicle Systems Center (GVSC) within 
U.S. Army Futures Command's Development Command (DEVCOM) is co-located 
with the commercial automotive industry in southeastern Michigan. The 
GVSC leverages its proximity to automotive technical centers through 
Cooperative Research and Development Agreements (CRADAs) with many of 
these automotive partners to leverage commercial efforts and 
investments in areas such as electrification. To date, we have 
established 11 CRADAs and Test Service Agreements with automotive 
Original Equipment Manufacturers and suppliers of electrification 
components. Additionally, the GVSC has hosted five electrification 
forums attended by dozens of companies working in electrification to 
share information on the Army's unique operational environment and to 
gain their input on our electrification plans and architecture. These 
forums allow the GVSC to share the Army's electrification needs and 
challenges with commercial industry partners. The GVSC has an 
established track record of working with America's research 
universities and leveraging groups such as the Automotive Research 
Center (ARC), partnering with 15 industry organizations and 9 
universities from around the country. These collaborative efforts 
between the Army and the commercial automotive sector are informing 
future vehicle requirements.
    Finally, the Army Applications Laboratory (AAL) in Austin, Texas, 
is working with the automotive sector nationwide to find industry 
solutions in relevant areas, such as the mobile charging infrastructure 
needed to support future military electric systems. As part of this 
effort, the Army has received technical input and solutions from over 
70 different non-traditional partners, ensuring that commercial best 
practices are being leveraged to address the unique military challenges 
with vehicle electrification.
              electric light reconnaissance vehicle (elrv)
    24. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, regarding the electric light 
reconnaissance vehicle (eLRV) program, I understand the Army has an 
identified unfunded requirement in fiscal year 2022 of $5.6 million and 
that if left unfulfilled could significantly impact the Army's ability 
to award up to 4 other transaction agreements to initiate this critical 
program. What steps are you taking internally to ensure this program 
remains on schedule?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Fiscal Year 2022 Budget Request reflects the 
Army's best effort to balance allocated funding against our 
requirements while assuming the least anticipated risk. The electric 
Light Reconnaissance Vehicle (eLRV) program was not funded in our 
budget request. If additional resources become available, we will 
consider funding the eLRV to avoid a one-year slip in its program.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Tammy Duckworth
        factoring program performance for budget prioritization
    25. Senator Duckworth. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
DOD, particularly the Army, must leverage best practices to make sure 
our Nation delivers high-quality systems to our warfighters on-time . . 
on-budget . . . in alignment with the National Defense Strategy and 
Interim National Security Strategic Guidance. I'm encouraged by our 
progress to date in key programs, like Future Vertical Lift, or FVL. 
The Army's embrace of a streamlined--so-called, ``middle tier of 
acquisition'' pathway--is proving effective in efficiently generating 
highly competitive options, while minimizing program failure risk to 
the government and the American taxpayer. Secretary Wormuth, can you 
address how the Army is factoring program performance to prioritize 
budget requests, especially in regard to doubling down on proven 
programs that work, such as FVL?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Program performance is 
just one factor that is considered for budget priority. Programs are 
prioritized based on the importance of the capability gap they are 
filling and the timeframe in which that gap must be closed.
    For instance, Long Range Precision Fires is the Army's number one 
acquisition priority because we are currently outranged by our near 
peer competitors, and we need to close that gap as soon as possible. 
Other gaps may not need to be closed as quickly, so they fall lower in 
priority and can be developed and procured at a slower rate. This frees 
up budget for higher priority programs. Programs that have a poor 
performance record, on the other hand, typically result in lower budget 
priority and offer an opportunity to shift funding within the budget, 
across the Future Year's Defense Program, because underperforming 
programs typically cannot execute their full budget due to program 
delays.
    We are, however, very proud of the combined Army teams' approach to 
the FVL programs, including their responsible use of new procurement 
and acquisition authorities granted by Congress, the focus at all 
echelons on affordability, and the continued emphasis on stable and 
achievable requirements.

    26. Senator Duckworth. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
another aspect of FVL that warrants a compliment is the Army's 
discipline in making sure the service implements a ``modular open 
systems architecture'' approach to maximize the Army's flexibility in 
managing operation and support costs over the program's lifecycle. 
Actively avoiding vendor lock-in is absolutely vital to enable DOD to 
provide warfighters with cutting-edge technology, while lowering 
overall costs through competition. Secretary Wormuth, as the Army 
continues to embrace modular open systems architecture in the FVL 
family of systems, will you commit to working with me to make sure this 
acquisition best practice is adopted and replicated across all 
Services?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is committed to 
Modular Open Systems Architecture (MOSA) as a warfighting imperative 
and has developed policy and implementation guidance to apply and 
certify the appropriate level of MOSA implementation in all Army 
programs. Accordingly, each of the Army Program Executive Officers 
(PEOs) have written MOSA guidance specific to their portfolio of 
programs. PEO Aviation has established a MOSA Transformation Office to 
ensure a disciplined approach to MOSA. It is currently identifying 
lessons learned in applying MOSA to Future Vertical Lift (FVL) and 
across the entire aviation portfolio of programs.
    The Army is actively engaging with industry to identify means to 
enhance competition, avoid vendor lock-in, accelerate and streamline 
technology insertion, and reduce support costs over a program's 
lifecycle. The Army is also an active participant in the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense (OSD) Modular Open Systems Working Group and the 
associated Tiger Teams, where best practices are identified, 
established, and shared across the Services. We will continue to work 
with OSD to assist in the adoption and implementation of MOSA across 
the Department of Defense.
balancing modernization efforts with readiness investments in the indo-
                             pacific region
    27. Senator Duckworth. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
I've been encouraged to see expanding roles for organizations such as 
the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade and the National Guard's 
State Partnership Program. Forging long-standing relationships with 
SFABs and Guard units gives international partners a more local view of 
the U.S. in a way that presents a unique diplomatic opportunity, in 
addition to building partner military capabilities and 
interoperability. Bottom-line: enhancing relationships increases 
deterrence and opens doors to the access and presence we need to 
compete in the region. General McConville, how does the Army properly 
balance the need to invest in modernization with resourcing critical 
readiness and mil-to-mil initiatives with our partners and allies, 
particularly in the Indo-Pacific Region?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army seeks to balance 
investment in modernization with resourcing critical readiness and mil-
to-mil initiatives with our partners and allies, particularly in the 
Indo-Pacific Region, through a series of detailed analytic processes 
that consider requirements, funding, and risk across all programs. Army 
leadership uses these processes to ensure investments are balanced 
across all portfolios based on the National Defense Strategy and other 
service requirements, including the Indo-Pacific region. The Army 
continues to evaluate, contribute and invest in readiness and 
capabilities that support the Army's efforts in the Indo-Pacific region 
to build partnerships and allies.
    For example, the Army instituted a new unit lifecycle model--ReARMM 
(Regionally Aligned Readiness & Modernization Model)--to generate ready 
forces for SECDEF validated requirements, which include exercises and 
engagements with our allies and partners, while allocating force 
elements to undergo deliberate modernization. ReARMM maximizes 
readiness while allowing the Army to continue its modernization. This 
model provides predictability to units and commanders and better aligns 
the many moving parts required to modernize a combat formation while 
simultaneously allowing the Army to program the right units to support 
exercises and mil-to-mil engagements.

    28. Senator Duckworth. General McConville, will you commit to 
exploring opportunities to expand the National Guard State Partnership 
Program in the Indo-Pacific to sustain presence and build partner 
nation capacity?
    General McConville. Yes. I fully support the National Guard's State 
Partnership Program. The State Partnership Program is one of our 
strongest tools for building partnership capacity and we continue to 
grow the program by two to three partners per year throughout the 
world. As the Pacific Defense Initiative is established, the 
USINDOPACOM Area of Responsibility will receive significant attention. 
We look forward to adding to the current 13 partnerships within the 
Indo-Pacific, which are critical to maintaining relationships in the 
region and avoiding conflict with China.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
               reserve components & new army fitness test
    29. Senator Rosen. General McConville, the Reserve Components face 
their own set of challenges as citizen soldiers, with two careers to 
manage and without access to the day-to-day services available to 
active duty troops on military installations. One such challenge will 
be the transition to the Army Combat Fitness Test (ACFT). While active 
duty soldiers will have ACFT equipment at their everyday place of work, 
Reserve Component soldiers will not, no matter how much equipment is 
fielded to Reserve/Guard units. These soldiers are not at their units 
every day to train on the equipment. This will require Reserve 
Component soldiers to have to pay for, and have access to, specialized 
gym equipment in order to train for the ACFT, whereas every soldier can 
train for the current Army Physical Fitness Test from their own home. 
How does the Army plan to address this disparity as they implement the 
ACFT?
    General McConville. The Army Reserve Components will continue to 
lead by example in ACFT implementation. The efforts by the Reserve 
Components ensure that no Soldier has to pay out of pocket in order to 
prepare for and then pass the ACFT. The ARNG has fielded 15,854 
complete sets of ACFT testing equipment to over 1,400 cities and towns 
across all 54 States and Territories. This equipment is distributed to 
maximize Soldier access and is dispersed in a manner to provide at 
least one full lane of equipment for every 21 Soldiers assigned, which 
aggregates to nearly six lanes of equipment per ARNG facility. The Army 
Reserve has placed 8,020 sets of equipment in the field for Soldiers to 
use. Army Reserve analysis indicates 84 percent of USAR Soldiers have 
homes of record within 25 miles of an equipment facility. An additional 
13 percent are within 50 miles.
    Furthermore, Master Fitness Trainers are expertly advising and 
coaching Reserve Component Soldiers to train for the ACFT utilizing 
dozens of exercises that can be accomplished with only body weight, 
with simple equipment, or with the equipment Soldiers typically have on 
hand. All of these exercises are illustrated in the Army Training 
Publication 7.22.02, ``Holistic Health and Fitness Drills and 
Exercises.'' The identified exercises in this reference allow Reserve 
Component Soldiers to train for the ACFT despite geographic dispersion 
or limited access to DOD fitness facilities, though all Reserve 
Component Soldiers have access to Department of Defense gyms and 
equipment. Finally, an additional 5,000 lanes of equipment are being 
distributed by TRADOC across the country to recruiting stations, ROTC 
schools/universities, and other TRADOC posts.
    Lastly, the ARNG reports that 21 States are currently piloting 
Holistic Health and Fitness initiatives and partnership programs with 
access rights to equipment and facilities, such as YMCAs, schools, and 
community centers that will specifically enable ACFT training.
                               iron dome
    30. Senator Rosen. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, I 
applaud the Army's decision to acquire two Iron Dome batteries and its 
successful integration of Iron Dome components as part of the Indirect 
Fire Protection Capability (IFPC) program. Despite the ongoing rocket 
attacks against U.S. Forces and facilities in Iraq showing gaps in the 
U.S.'s ability to defend against rocket attacks, the Army has 
eliminated having the current ability to defend against rocket attacks 
as a criteria in the IFPC selection, only requiring the future ability 
to have such a capability. This raises concerns about leaving our 
forces unprotected against these threats that adversaries are already 
using against the United States and allies like Israel. Why has the 
Army eliminated counter-rocket capabilities from being a requirement in 
the IFPC program?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army has not 
eliminated counter-rocket capabilities as a requirement in the IFPC 
Increment 2 program. The enduring IFPC Increment 2 system will be fully 
integrated into the Army's Integrated Air and Missile Defense 
architecture to defeat not only cruise missiles, as directed in the 
Fiscal Year 2019 National Defense Authorization Act, but also rockets, 
artillery, mortars, and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS).
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Roger F. Wicker
      army decision to eliminate malaria drug and vaccine research
    31. Senator Wicker. Secretary Wormuth, Senator Durbin and I 
recently sent a group letter to the Secretary of Defense regarding the 
elimination of the malaria vaccine and drug research program at Walter 
Reed Army Institute of Research. We remain concerned with the 
Department's decisions over recent years to precipitously decrease and 
even eliminate funding for malaria research, particularly in light of 
increased drug-resistant malaria in Asia and insecticide resistance in 
Africa. Malaria remains the number one infectious disease threat to 
United States servicemembers abroad in those AORs.
    As a Nation, we have learned during this pandemic that a lack of 
health readiness can come at an enormous cost to American life and 
treasure. Understanding the ability for an infectious disease such as 
malaria to disrupt mission readiness and the likelihood of continued 
future deployments to the AFRICOM and PACOM AORS, how will you ensure 
previous investments in malaria at the Walter Reed Army Institute of 
Research, the world's premier research center for malaria, continued to 
be leveraged?
    Secretary Wormuth. The U.S. Army Medical Research and Development 
Command (MRDC), a subordinate command of U.S. Army Futures Command, is 
committed to preserving internal expertise and capabilities that are 
essential to research and development of medical countermeasures to 
protect military personnel. MRDC and the Walter Reed Army Institute of 
Research (WRAIR) focus on scientific core competencies that are broadly 
applicable across a range of pathogens threatening the health and 
readiness of military personnel. As infectious disease threats emerge 
and evolve within the operational environment, MRDC and WRAIR will 
pivot those competencies towards the highest priority threats, focusing 
investments on threats that do not receive attention or funding from 
inter-agency partners, non-governmental organizations, or industry.
    Malaria research and development will continue to have a high level 
of interest and support from inter-agency partners, academia, non-
governmental organizations, and international bodies. The MRDC recently 
delivered two Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved drugs for 
malaria prevention and treatment, respectively: Tafenoquine and 
Artesunate. Tafenoquine can prevent malaria infection from all species 
of malaria and is a new option for malaria prevention that will 
increase in importance as resistance to standard of care therapies 
grows. Artesunate is the only FDA-approved treatment for severe malaria 
in the United States and is a critical capability to save lives.
                      unfunded requirements lists
    32. Senator Wicker. Secretary Wormuth, the MATES' repair is a 
National Guard priority that gets absorbed into the larger Army 
Unfunded Requirements List. Secretary Wormuth, would providing separate 
Unfunded Lists better communicate priorities specific to the Army and 
the Army National Guard?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army National Guard (ARNG) currently 
integrates UFR requests within a Total Army concept. This ensures the 
ARNG UFRs nest with the Army's priorities of improving the quality of 
life of our Soldiers and Families, modernizing our facilities and 
equipment, and increasing readiness of the force.
            afghanistan special immigrant visa (siv) program
    33. Senator Wicker. Secretary Wormuth, as United States troops 
continue to execute the withdrawal from Afghanistan, I am concerned 
about the safety of our Afghan partners who assisted United States and 
coalition forces in the country. The Special Immigrant Visa (SIV) 
program provides a path for these individuals and their families, but 
delays and quota limits may jeopardize the lives of these persons. 
Secretary Wormuth, please describe what the Army is doing to ensure the 
safety of our Afghan partners as we depart the country, both in support 
of the SIV program and through other means.
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is fully integrated into Department of 
Defense planning efforts that support the State Department and the 
whole-of-government approach to ensuring the safety of our Afghan 
partners as military operations come to a close in Afghanistan. To that 
end, the Army has established a specific team to assist with prudent 
planning efforts.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                    fort bragg military construction
    34. Senator Tillis. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, as 
you are aware, the Immediate Response Forces (IFR) is the Nation's 
rapid response force, which is comprised of paratroopers from one of 
the 82nd Airborne Division's brigade combat teams and should be able to 
rapidly deploy within 18 hours. For the first time since 1989, the 
response force received rapid deployment orders on New Year's Eve 2019, 
following the Iran-supported Hezbollah militia attacks on the American 
embassy in Iraq. However, as paratroopers prepared for the deployment, 
they spent most of the day traveling across Fort Bragg from location to 
location gathering equipment instead of spending their limited time on 
briefings or preparing for the mission. Compounding this issue is that 
conventional forces at Fort Bragg have only been supported with a 
single MILCON project since 2010, compared to the numerous MILCON 
projects that have supported special operations units at the same base. 
It is irresponsible of Congress, and I would argue of the Army, to 
require the IFR to perform its duties if we are not going to provide 
the necessary support facilities to ensure mission success and soldier 
safety. While it is currently not on the unfunded priority list, do I 
have your commitment that you will support our IFR warfighters by 
placing their request for a strategic deployment complex and a tactical 
equipment maintenance facility on this year's list of unfunded 
priorities?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. At this time, the 
Strategic Deployment Complex and the Tactical Equipment Maintenance 
Facility projects lack sufficient design status. As a result, they do 
not meet the 35 percent-design threshold required for inclusion in the 
fiscal year 2022 CSA MILCON unfinanced requirement (UFR) list. These 
projects are expected to meet the design threshold to compete in a 
later budget cycle.

    35. Senator Tillis. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
taking it a step further, if the IFR is essential to the Department's 
ability to rapidly support America's national security in emergent 
crises, why is it not part of the Army's requested budget? If it is not 
essential, as it would appear based on the budget and unfunded priority 
list, why have it?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Immediate Response 
Force (IRF) is essential to the Department's ability to rapidly ensure 
America's national security in emergent crises. The Army continues to 
develop Military Construction, Restoration, and Modernization projects 
to improve the efficiency of deployment operations in support of the 
IRF, while taking into account the Army's facility requirements 
worldwide to support unit readiness and Soldier quality of life.
                          future vertical lift
    36. Senator Tillis. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Army's Future Vertical Lift (FVL) modernization program consists of two 
distinct aircraft, each designed to accomplish different missions in 
the Army's future force. They are the Future Long Range Assault 
Aircraft (FLRAA) program, designed to replace the Blackhawk and the 
Future Armed Reconnaissance Aircraft (FARA) designed to fill the void 
left by the retirement of the Army's armed scout aircraft. The Army has 
budgeted $181m between fiscal year 2019 and fiscal year 2021, and 
Congress has added $185m during the same period. The Army suggests that 
this program is its number 3 modernization initiative (out of 6) and 
the total funding is between number 5 and 6 in total dollars over the 
FYDP. Additionally, the Army has awarded two competitive prototypes for 
each variant, both to Bell Helicopter and LM/Sikorsky. The Future 
Vertical Lift program is considered the furthest along of all the 
projects under the CFTs, and Futures Command. The FLRAA program, in 
particular, is the one major program that is actually flying. This is 
not a ``paper'' program, and thus represents the ``Poster Child'' for a 
successful acquisition program coming out of Futures Command. The 
existing vertical lift fleet, according to CSIS, lacks the necessary 
speed, range, endurance, survivability, and lethality to compete in the 
Anti Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) environment. The U.S. Army FVL program 
seeks to modernize the vertical lift fleet by delivering the most 
modern, versatile, and lethal power projection platform to insure 
success on the modern battlefield. There have been recent articles in 
the press (believed to be pushed by those opposing FVL) which have been 
critical for the Army's requirement for speed. The Army has pushed back 
aggressively citing the need for speed and range to increase lethality 
and allow the Army to achieve a more lethal force in the Great Power 
Competition, and Indo-Pacific Theater. General McConville, the Army has 
consistently discussed the need for speed and range, as well as 
survivability when it comes to the future vertical lift aircraft. Could 
you explain to this Committee why speed and range are so critical to 
the Future Long Range Assault Aircraft and how this new technology will 
allow the Army to leverage FLRAA as a power projection platform?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. FLRAA is the next 
generation of affordable vertical lift, including both assault and 
intra-theater aeromedical evacuation (MEDEVAC) aircraft. It will be 
both effective and decisive in the lower tier of the air domain.
    The fundamental capability of FLRAA is its reach and the power 
projection it provides in the increasingly dangerous and complex multi-
domain operations environment. FLRAA will compel enemy forces to 
respond to multiple dilemmas with its ability to move and converge 
ground forces through decentralized operations over extended distances. 
FLRAA will expand the reach of ground forces to conduct air assault 
missions across the battlespace, reducing enemy reaction time and 
freedom of action.
    Importantly. FRLAA will remain survivable with the use of Air 
Launched Effects (ALE) and integration with other maneuver forces and 
long-range fires, all enabled by the network. Additionally, the cost 
per effect for FLRAA to insert two infantry battalions in one period of 
darkness is comparable to the cost of twice as many UH-60s to achieve 
the same effect.

    37. Senator Tillis. General McConville, how will this capability 
assist the Army with its strategy in the Indo-Pacific Theater and in 
the Great Power Competition?
    General McConville. The Future Vertical Lift (FVL) ecosystem is 
poised to provide Multi-Doman capabilities for Joint Force threat 
penetration at the outset of large-scale conflict using 
transformational speed, range, and the ability to converge Army and 
Joint sensors and shooters to enable decision dominance. In addition, 
FVL will provide overmatch capability and capacity to out-tempo the 
enemy at all Army echelons to win the close fight.
    China's investment in creating a dense network of anti-access/area-
denial (A2/AD) capabilities throughout the Pacific island chains 
presents a complex problem. It inhibits U.S. power projection, erodes 
joint freedom of maneuver, and ultimately diminishes credible 
deterrence.
    Dominating in the lower tier of the air domain, the FVL ecosystem 
provides a unique advantage against A2/AD systems, such as Integrated 
Air Defense Systems (IADS), enemy long-range fires, and threat command 
and control systems. Hidden by surface clutter while operating at lower 
altitudes, FVL outmatches radar and observation with the standoff and 
swarming capability of its Air Launched Effects (ALE) with Electronic 
Warfare (EW) and lethal strike capabilities. Joint force aircraft and 
follow-on maneuver forces can exploit this penetration to destroy other 
critical targets once FVL destroys or neutralizes the IADS barrier.

    38. Senator Tillis. General McConville, is the Future Vertical Lift 
program fully resourced, across the FYDP for both the FLRAA and FARA 
programs, both Research and Development funding and Procurement 
funding? What are the amounts of funding, through the FYDP? And in 
which year will Congress see funding requested for procurement dollars?
    General McConville. We do not yet know how much funding will be 
allocated to the Army each year beyond fiscal year 2022, so we are not 
able to state that both FLRAA and FARA are fully resourced across the 
FYDP. Fiscal year 2030 remains our target for equipping the first unit.
    Both the FARA and FLRAA programs are actively utilizing in-process 
feedback from our industry partners to inform data driven discussion, 
government cost models, and decisions on future resourcing 
requirements.
    The FARA and FLRAA analyses, demonstrations and risk reduction, and 
prototyping efforts will help us ensure informed future budgets; we are 
committed to keeping Congress informed on these efforts at each 
juncture. Procurement requirements will align to support the Army's 
First Unit Equipped target of fiscal year 2030 and will be informed by 
the vendors' performance through developmental test activities.
                   short-range reconnaissance program
    39. Senator Tillis. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, it is 
my understanding that the Army's Short-Range Reconnaissance program was 
the driver behind the development of the ``Blue Small Unmanned Aircraft 
Systems.'' Am I correct in the assumption that the five Blue drones 
that have undergone a down-select for consideration are 100 percent 
made in the USA?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army's RQ-28A Short 
Range Reconnaissance (SRR) program is separate and distinct from Blue 
Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (Blue sUAS) managed by the Defense 
Innovation Unit (DIU). The Army's SRR program provided access to Army 
contracts that were utilized by DIU to evaluate the first batch of the 
Blue sUAS aircraft. Specifically for SRR, the RQ-28A is not 
manufactured completely in the United States. However, it is compliant 
with Section 848 of the Fiscal Year 2020 National Defense Authorization 
Act, which restricts all Department of Defense UAS critical components 
from being manufactured in specific countries.
                          army ground vehicles
    40. Senator Tillis. Secretary Wormuth, during the hearing General 
McConville clearly identified the need to modernize and transform the 
Army for any future fight against a strategic peer competitor like 
China and stated that ``most of the weapon systems we're using are 1980 
vintage''. Regarding the Army's acquisition strategy for the Joint 
Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) program, which the Army plans to 
recomplete as a ``build to print'' competition and is the only tactical 
wheeled vehicle competition planned through 2028, I'm concerned about 
whether this current ``build to print'' strategy is setting the right 
conditions for modernization of the Army's TWV fleets, specifically the 
JLTV program, which is currently planned to be in the fleet through 
2040. What other alternative acquisition strategies have you considered 
as part of the JLTV competitive acquisition strategy to ensure the JLTV 
remains relevant and not effectively buying more of the same capability 
that is technically better designed for the previous conflicts in Iraq 
and Afghanistan?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army conducted research and considered 
multiple strategies, which focused on how much industry would be asked 
to invest and the capabilities, risk, and the life cycle cost 
implications of these decisions. The Joint Light Tactical Vehicle 
(JLTV) acquisition strategy was selected to leverage an already capable 
platform, and through focused design upgrades and competition, it 
brings new capabilities to Soldiers and Marines. The JLTV Follow-On 
Contract is based upon a new variant of the family of vehicles, which 
includes several technology insertions in the areas of powertrain, 
electrical architecture, noise reduction, and stowage. The pending 
competition also includes significant incentives for competitors to 
propose additional technology enhancements in the areas of fuel 
efficiency, corrosion, upgrade of vehicle architecture, and driver 
assist capabilities, while keeping the cost of the JLTV affordable. 
These technology advances on a proven system, which currently has 
growth and modularity capability in weight, power, and available kits, 
make the JLTV the optimal platform for the light tactical vehicle 
mission in a Multi-Domain Operational environment.

    41. Senator Tillis. Secretary Wormuth, the Army's infantry squad 
vehicle (ISV) is planned to enter full rate production in September and 
despite this being a new capability to address an operational need for 
infantry brigade combat teams for enhanced tactical mobility the 
program had its funding reduced by 10 percent in the fiscal year 2022 
budget request, effectively keeping production rates well below minimum 
sustaining rates of production. Recognizing the budget request was 
submitted without a future year's defense program, could you provide us 
with more insight into the long term acquisition strategy for the ISV 
program to include whether the Army plans to procure the authorized 
objective of 2,065? It's my understanding the Army is currently 
reviewing the light tactical vehicle fleet mix for infantry brigade 
combat teams to include JLTV, HMMWVs, and ISVs. What is the status of 
this review and when can we expect to see details?
    Secretary Wormuth. The plan for the Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV) 
was to procure 11 Infantry Brigade Combat Team (IBCT) sets, or 649 
vehicles, with funding ending in fiscal year 2024. The Tactical Wheeled 
Vehicle Study is ongoing, and it will inform the right mix of light 
tactical vehicles in the IBCT. That study will inform Army decisions on 
future procurement of light tactical vehicles for the IBCT and the Army 
expects to have the results later this year.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                    cold-weather all-terrain vehicle
    42. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Cold-Weather, All-Terrain Vehicle (CATV) is not on the Army's ``31 plus 
4'' modernization list. As I understand it, two firms were recently 
selected to build CATV prototypes that would replace the obsolete Small 
Unit Support Vehicles, which enable mobility for Arctic operations. Can 
you provide an update on this program, including when it will achieve 
initial operational capability?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Cold Weather All-
Terrain Vehicle (CATV) program awarded Other Transaction Authority 
agreements to two vendors in April 2021 for the prototype phase. Each 
vendor delivered two vehicles in June 2021. The Army will perform 
testing of the vehicles at Cold Regions Testing Center, FT Greely, AK. 
Successful completion of the testing of these prototypes will determine 
eligibility to compete for a production contract.
    A production award is targeted for the fourth quarter of fiscal 
year 2022, with the first unit equipped with five vehicles in the 
fourth quarter of fiscal year 2023 to United States Army Northern 
Warfare Training Center, FT Wainwright, AK. At this point, the Army 
intends to protect programmed funding for this important modernization 
effort, as it is necessary to divest the Small Unit Support Vehicles 
(SUSV), which are reaching obsolescence.
                      arctic brigade combat teams
    43. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Army Arctic strategy calls for the transformation of the Alaskan-based 
BCTs into Arctic BCTs to ``recapture our cold-weather dominance.'' Part 
of my understanding of this transformation is that it requires a shift 
away from Infantry Carrier Vehicles, or Strykers, to a vehicle that 
provides better mobility in Arctic terrain. What is the status of the 
Army's transformation effort?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is finalizing 
options and timelines to transform the Alaska-based Stryker Brigade 
Combat Team (SBCT) into a more arctic-capable formation. We expect to 
announce the options being assessed in early fiscal year 2022. Ground 
mobility requirements in arctic terrain could be provided by the Cold 
Weather All-Terrain Vehicle (CATV). The CATV will replace the aging 
Small Unit Support Vehicle (SUSV). The CATV program is in the prototype 
phase, with vehicles from two vendors conducting testing at the Cold 
Regions Testing Center at Fort Greely, Alaska. Our current timelines 
project a production award by the end of fiscal year 2022, and first 
unit equipped by the end of fiscal year 2023.

    44. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
what is the timeline for 1-25 and 4-25 BCTs to convert to Arctic BCTs?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is reviewing 
options for the conversion of force structure to Arctic-capable 
formations. Once approved, those conversions will follow the Total Army 
Analysis (TAA) timeline with announcements typically in the first 
quarter of the fiscal year. The decision will be followed with a 
synchronization of resources (personnel, training, and equipment) 
required for the conversions.
                     arctic multi-domain task force
    45. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, it 
is my understanding that the Army will create an Arctic Multi-Domain 
Task Force (MDTF) in Alaska. It will consist of several units currently 
assigned to 1-25 and 4-25 in addition to newly assigned units. Which 
long-range precision fires systems will this unit field and will they 
undergo Arctic testing before fielding?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is currently 
exploring options for different capabilities to place within the 
planned MDTFs depending on location and mission. The options are being 
validated through testing and experimentation, which will inform the 
types of long-range fire precision systems the Army will station in 
MDTFs both within the continental United States and outside the 
continental United States.

    46. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, it 
is my understanding that the Arctic MDTF will include long-range 
precision fires that the Army wants to operate along Alaska's vast 
coastline for extended periods of time to create anti-access/area 
denial networks. Is the Army considering how civilian and military 
infrastructure will impact Arctic Multi-Domain Task Force (MDTF) 
operations along Alaska's coastline?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is exploring 
multiple force structure options to support the newly published Arctic 
Strategy. As those options are developed, we will consider the impacts 
from civilian and military infrastructure.
                    army multi-domain transformation
    47. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
``Army Multi-Domain Transformation'' document calls for long-range, 
land-based missiles on West Pacific islands to threaten targets deep 
within China's Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) defenses. That document 
also emphasizes the Army's role as an inside force, operating within 
adversary A2/AD networks. The fiscal year 2022 budget indicates the 
Army either failed to establish a compelling narrative about its 
usefulness in the Pacific or the Department of Defense did not find the 
Army's INDOPACOM plans credible. If defense budget cuts continue, how 
will the Army modernize to deter and defeat potential peer or near-peer 
adversaries while simultaneously maintaining readiness levels for 
inside forces?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Faced with potential 
downward budgetary pressure, the Army must strike a difficult balance 
between meeting the demands of current operations while preparing for 
the future. To accomplish this, the Army can and will achieve the 
balance between People, Readiness, and Modernization needed to field 
the future force. We will use the Regionally Aligned Readiness and 
Modernization Model (ReARMM) to align units regionally to meet current 
Joint Force demand while preparing the force for the future. We must 
satisfy operational demand while modernizing for pacing and emergent 
threats. Detailed modeling and simulation has shown us that we must 
modernize or risk defeat in the future against near peer adversaries. 
We have cut our legacy and enduring programs significantly in order to 
fund our Modernization Priorities, accepting as much risk as possible 
in those programs. Future budget reductions will likely cause the Army 
to reduce funding to our top six Army modernization priorities to 
protect our People First initiatives and to protect Readiness. The Army 
will pursue a resourcing strategy, which is fully aligned with the 
national security strategic guidance, and we will provide the very best 
Army we can within our budget.
    To do this, we must sustain the readiness that we have worked so 
hard to rebuild over the past several years, while reprioritizing 
funding to invest in critical capabilities. Long Range Precision Fires 
(LRPF) remains the Army's number one modernization priority. LRPF is 
absolutely critical to defeating China's Anti-Access/Areal Denial 
capability. To deter and win, we must also be capable and prepared for 
the close fight with capabilities such as Future Vertical Lift and the 
best equipped Soldiers in the world. The Joint Force and INDOPACOM have 
asked for, and will depend on, Army LRPF in support of their 
operational plans, along with other capabilities such as logistics, 
intelligence and prepositions stocks.
                           anti-ship missiles
    48. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
``Army Multi-Domain Transformation'' document calls for long-range, 
land-based missiles on West Pacific islands to threaten targets deep 
within China's Anti-Access/Area Denial (A2/AD) defenses. If these 
capabilities include anti-ship missiles, how is the Army coordinating 
with the Navy and Marine Corps to execute sea denial missions?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army's on-going 
coordination with the USN and USMC includes training, capability 
development, and mission planning. The Army coordinates for Soldier 
training on
    USN weapon systems in support of the Long Range Fires Battalions. 
This training includes firing procedures, command and control, and 
missile handling.
    Army coordination with the USMC includes USN weapons training, 
sharing weapon capability development, and refining digital C2 and 
communications common to both services. Additionally, the Army and USMC 
hold a semi-annual programmatic Army/Marine Corps Board that focuses on 
capability development within the long range fires portfolio to ensure 
we were maximizing resources and reducing redundancies.
                              air defense
    49. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, how 
is the Army coordinating with the Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force to 
deploy integrated air defense capabilities to protect the Joint Force 
from China and Russia's prodigious land-attack and anti-ship missile 
arsenals?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Integrated Air and 
Missile Defense (IAMD) is an inherently joint mission, which requires a 
number of offensive and defensive capabilities from all services to 
effectively protect the Joint Force and enable our freedom of action. 
At the theater level, the Army directly supports Regional Combatant 
Commanders in carrying out their responsibility to synchronize and 
coordinate the planning, resourcing, and execution of IAMD operations 
with other sister-service elements. The Army does this through its 
regionally aligned Army Air and Missile Defense Commands (AAMDC). 
Specific to China and Russia, the 94th AAMDC is located in, and 
supports, the INDOPACOM theater and the 10th AAMDC is located in, and 
supports, the European theater. Additionally, the 32nd AAMDC is 
stationed in Texas, but it maintains a forward deployed element in 
support of CENTCOM's IAMD operations. The 263rd AAMDC is located in 
South Carolina and directly supports NORTHCOM and the homeland IAMD 
mission.
    In addition to this operationally focused support to the Combatant 
Commanders, the Army provides strategic IAMD planning and coordination 
support in collaboration with our sister-services. Specifically, the 
Army is directly involved in IAMD planning, which includes past and 
current missile defense reviews, multi-service strategies for air base 
defense against missile threats, the defense of Guam, and the 
development of joint service IAMD doctrine, as well as multi-service 
IAMD tactics, techniques, and procedures.
    The Army's highest AMD modernization priority is the Integrated Air 
and Missile Defense Battle Command System (IBCS). IBCS will provide the 
Army with the necessary mission command network to integrate not only 
the Army's IAMD system, but also the other Service's IAMD capabilities 
to enable more efficient and effective target detection and 
prosecution. IBCS IAMD interoperability with the Joint Services is a 
key component of the Joint All-Domain Command and Control (JADC2) 
experiments Project Convergence 21, the Orange Flag demonstration 
series, and other JADC2 events.
                               logistics
    50. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, if 
competition with China turns into conflict, how is the Army planning to 
move its inside forces within Chinese A2/AD networks?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army and the Joint 
Force must successfully maneuver across all domains inside the first 
island chain to win critical first battles in a conflict with the 
People's Republic of China (PRC). In competition, Army forces postured 
inside the first island chain are well within the PRC's Anti-Access/
Area Denial (A2/AD) and long-range fires zones. Army Forces are key to 
enabling distributed networks and protecting the Joint Force during 
crisis and conflict through Integrated Air and Missile Defense and 
other means. Army forces, distributed and dispersed across the region, 
pose multiple dilemmas to the PRC. Distributed Army forces also provide 
options to the Joint Force Commander to increase the speed of decision 
making and the physical range of when and where to apply military force 
across the theater.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                         ammunition facilities
    51. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, what specific resources 
or authorities will it require to fully modernize Holston Army 
Ammunition Plant so that its outdated infrastructure no longer 
represents a single point of failure in the defense enterprise?
    General McConville. The Army is currently developing its resourcing 
strategy beyond fiscal year 2022 as part of a holistic 15-year Organic 
Industrial Base (OIB) Modernization Strategy that will encompass its 23 
government-owned and government-operated (GOGO) and government-owned 
and contractor-operated (GOCO) depots, arsenals, and ammunition 
facilities. We anticipate the initial results of our analysis to be 
available next year.
    This strategy is critical to preparing the OIB to support multi-
domain operations in large scale combat operations, and it will inform 
the fiscal year 2023 budget request to include the necessary 
infrastructure investments required to modernize Holston Army 
Ammunition Plant over the Future Years Defense Plan FYDP. In fiscal 
year 2020 and fiscal year 2021, the Army received approximately $600 
million to continue safety improvements, RDX expansion, infrastructure 
upgrades, environmental improvements, and cybersecurity solutions. 
Continuing to modernize Holston will reduce the likelihood of 
production interruptions or catastrophic failures, and improve worker 
safety.
                           army end strength
    52. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, the Army's fiscal year 
2022 end strength proposal reduces the collective force by 
approximately 1,700 Soldiers. What are your primary concerns looking at 
the operational commitments you are simultaneously being asked to 
source?
    General McConville. My primary concerns are operational tempo 
(dwell and deployment) on our Soldiers and units as well as having the 
necessary structure to stand up new organizations like the Multi-Domain 
Task Forces (MDTF).

    53. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, what sort of unforeseen 
impacts and risk associated with end strength reduction are you trying 
to anticipate? (i.e. safety, retention, family stress, and force 
preservation issues)
    General McConville. End strength reductions will limit the Army's 
ability to meet unforecasted requirements, while maintaining 
modernization timelines, planned rotational deployments, and 
reorganizing for multi-domain and large scale combat after two decades 
of war against Violent Extremist
    Organizations (VEO's). In fiscal year 2021, the Army responded to 
multiple unforecasted requirements to include hurricane recovery, 
wildfires, the treatment of COVID patients and administration of COVID 
vaccines, the security of the Southwest border, efforts to counter 
Iranian aggression, the support of civilian law enforcement in the 
National Capital Region, and the support of the Afghanistan retrograde. 
We reasonably expect fiscal year 2022 unforecasted emergent 
requirements to remain commensurate with fiscal year 2021. Reduced Army 
end strength limits our capacity to respond to emergencies while 
transforming without trading critical aspects of modernization or other 
planned activities in support of the Combatant Commands.
                          future capabilities
    54. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, in October 2019 you 
affirmed your support for Admiral Davidson's request for two Multi-
Domain Task Forces (MDTFs) in INDOPACOM. Is that still a priority, and 
if so, how long do you anticipate it will take to source Admiral 
Aquilino with the additional MDTF he needs?
    General McConville. The Army continues reviewing options for 
additional MDTFs beyond the second deployment recently announced for 
Europe; these options include added support for USINDOPACOM. The third 
MDTF, if we can resource it, is earmarked for the Pacific region. We 
are working with INDOPACOM and U.S. Army Pacific to determine location 
and timing; however, given competing demands and available force 
structure, the Army has not yet made those decisions. If we do, we 
anticipate having the ability to activate an additional MDTF as early 
as fiscal year 2023.

    55. Senator Blackburn. General McConville, would a higher topline 
increase the speed at which you could resource and deploy the 
additional MDTF to INDOPACOM?
    General McConville. A topline increase in fiscal year 2022 could 
enable the Army to increase the speed at which we resource and deploy 
the MDTF to an extent. Resourcing the MDTF is the number one priority 
on the Army's Unfunded Requirements List for fiscal year 2022. Funding 
the $2.5 million unfunded requirement would allow the MDTF to take full 
advantage of advances in digital warfare, autonomous robotics, and 
artificial intelligence to maintain digital overmatch against near-peer 
adversaries and non-state actors by shortening kill chains, providing a 
persistent capability, and enabling freedom of maneuver. It would 
provide the MDTF the ability to securely deploy computing resources on-
demand to networked users around the globe.
    Additional topline resourcing would not likely increase the speed 
at which we are developing other capabilities critical to the MDTF, 
such as Long Range Hypersonic Weapons, the Mid-Range Capability or the 
Precision Strike Missile, nor would it increase the speed at which we 
can build and train on them.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                   army housing at fort leonard wood
    56. Senator Hawley. General McConville, one of our priorities in 
Missouri is ensuring that all of our servicemembers enjoy the best 
quality of life possible. One of the challenges we're facing is that 
many of the homes at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri were built in the 
1960s and are long overdue for replacement. What is the Army doing to 
facilitate replacements for these homes, so we can ensure all 
servicemembers in Missouri can continue to enjoy the highest standards 
of living?
    General McConville. The Army's number one priority is our people, 
and we are committed to providing a quality of life that allows 
Soldiers and their Families to thrive. Privatization of the family 
housing at Fort Leonard Wood occurred in March 2005; Balfour Beatty 
Communities (BBC) is the Managing Member of the Fort Leonard Wood 
privatized housing company. Sharing your concern about the age of the 
housing inventory, the Army has conceptually approved BBC's five-year 
development plan for Fort Leonard Wood that includes the demolition and 
replacement with new construction of 59 legacy (built in 1957-1962) 
family housing units using existing project funds. In addition, the 
Army is supporting BBC's endeavor to obtain additional private sector 
financing to fund additional new development at top priority locations, 
including Fort Leonard Wood. The additional financing is anticipated in 
Fall 2021. These additional funds are expected to fund the demolition 
of more legacy housing units and their replacement with new 
construction housing in numbers that are still being determined at Fort 
Leonard Wood and other top priority locations.
                army's role in the indo-pacific theater
    57. Senator Hawley. General McConville, combat-credible forward 
postured forces in the Indo-Pacific are critical to deterring Chinese 
aggression. How do you see the posture investments requested in 
INDOPACOM's 1251 report supporting the Army's efforts to bolster its 
own forward deterrent posture in the Pacific?
    General McConville. The Army is focused on improving and expanding 
our rotational force posture inside the first island chain to deter 
People's Republic of China (PRC) military aggression by denying their 
ability to conduct military operations at will. Improved posture will 
result in a stronger deterrent capability, which will also support a 
rapid transition to crisis or conflict. Our posture investments are in 
support of the Joint Force and aligned with United States Indo-Pacific 
Command's (USINDOPACOM's) 1251 Report.
    As an example, USINDOPACOM's request of land-based anti-ship 
capabilities will increase conventional deterrence of the PRC. The 
Army's additional posture priorities within the first and second island 
chains support this requirement and seek to establish a forward Joint 
and Combined defense in depth. The Army's dispersed and innovative 
posture efforts provide support in accordance with the USINDOPACOM 1251 
Report, and we will continue to pursue a forward deterrent posture as 
opportunities arise through continuous engagement.

    58. Senator Hawley. General McConville, how does the Army plan to 
use partnership-building exercises such as Pacific Defender and Pacific 
Pathways to strengthen our relationships and access across the Indo-
Pacific region, and how are you thinking about building on these 
initiatives in the future?
    General McConville. Partnership-building exercises strengthen 
relationships, increase interoperability, and contribute to a Land 
Power Network for collective defense and security. Through exercises, 
operations, and activities, the Army expands access, presence, and 
influence that contribute to the development of lasting cooperation and 
codified agreements.
    These agreements serve several functions. First, they demonstrate 
the steadfast commitment of the U.S. to a free and open Indo-Pacific. 
Second, they allow the United States to actively compete in the region 
during peacetime, countering People's Republic of China (PRC) malign 
activities and coercion. Third, they enable incremental progress toward 
long-term agreements that guarantee U.S. access to key terrain during 
crisis and contingency. For additional context, in fiscal year 2022 and 
beyond, ``Indo-Pacific Pathways'' is the new name that replaces 
``Pacific Defender'' and ``Pacific Pathways.''

    59. Senator Hawley. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
President Biden said all United States Forces will be withdrawn from 
Afghanistan by September 1st. How will our departure from Afghanistan 
help the Army refocus attention and resources on the Indo-Pacific and 
China, in particular?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army will remain 
committed to supporting the security of the United States Embassy in 
Kabul. Reduced operational demands will allow the Army to focus on a 
number of ongoing efforts to include Army force modernization 
initiatives and improvements to force readiness to better compete with 
China. This reduction will also increase the forces available for 
employment in the Indo-Pacific to compete against China or to shape an 
emergent crisis.

    60. Senator Hawley. General McConville, the Army deploys an armor 
brigade to Europe every year to help deter Russian aggression. Outside 
of units already assigned to conduct partner exercises, should the Army 
consider deploying a Brigade Combat Team to the Indo-Pacific theater in 
the same fashion as EUCOM?
    General McConville. With the existing Army Immediate Response Force 
(IRF) construct as part of the Joint Contingency Response Force (CRF), 
there is potential for the Dynamic Force Employment of Army 
capabilities through Indo-Pacific Pathways. Like in Europe, a short 
episodic presence would reassure allies and demonstrate the ability to 
project power at a time and place of our choosing. It would also 
provide the Army opportunities to learn from deploying a large Army 
element into a contested archipelagic environment, which would be very 
different from the past 20 years of deploying large Army forces into a 
continental, largely uncontested environment. For context, since 2015, 
the Army has deployed a Brigade Combat Team to South Korea annually.

    61. Senator Hawley. General McConville, what message do you believe 
this would send the Chinese and our allies and partners in the region?
    General McConville. Deployment of a large ground combat force into 
the region would send a clear signal of U.S. resolve to ensure a free 
and open Indo-Pacific, as well as a willingness to defend our own 
interests and those of our allies and partners.
                  sexual assault response coordinators
    62. Senator Hawley. General McConville, Sexual Assault Response 
Coordinators are the first-line responders that victims of military 
sexual assault rely on for medical, legal, and other support. But the 
Fort Hood Independent Review Committee found that these professionals 
often lack the staffing, resources, and training they need not only to 
be effective for victims, but also to support one another and take care 
of themselves. Do you think improving recruitment, retention, 
education, and support for SARCs would help them to be as effective as 
possible?
    General McConville. The Army's Sexual Harassment/Assault Response 
and Prevention (SHARP) program includes 630 full-time Brigade-level/
equivalent and installation SHARP professionals, 50 SHARP Program 
Managers, and four Assistant Program Managers across the Army 
enterprise. These professionals are some of the most highly-trained 
advocates in the Department of Defense. The Army has continued to make 
improvements to their recruitment, training, education, and support.
    In terms of training and education, all full-time Army Sexual 
Assault Response Coordinators (SARCs) and Victim Advocates (VAs) must 
attend a 6-week resident SARC/VA Career Course at the U.S. Army SHARP 
Academy at Fort Leavenworth, KS. The Army SHARP Academy curriculum 
exceeds the minimum training requirement for victim advocacy set by the 
National Organization for Victim Assistance (NOVA) and fully prepares 
the SARCs and VAs for their roles and responsibilities. The curriculum 
includes competency-based assessments and training on self-care, a 
topic that is reinforced through continuous education and outreach 
activities.
    In order to enhance recruitment and retention of the most qualified 
individuals to serve in these sensitive positions, the Army published 
guidance in February of 2021 that included specific incentives for 
military personnel serving in SARC or VA positions. In addition, the 
Army is transitioning to a more centralized screening, selection, and 
assignment process for military personnel in full-time SHARP positions. 
This transition will enable improved benefits and career management 
similar to military Equal Opportunity Advisors.
    Lastly, understanding these positions are potentially high strain 
and can result in vicarious trauma, the Army Resilience Directorate 
offers website training for self-care to personnel in this field. This 
training teaches personnel how to overcome some of these stresses they 
are exposed to while advocating for a victim of sexual harassment or 
sexual assault. In addition, during the annual Program Improvement 
Forum, SHARP professionals are provided training with techniques to 
better care for themselves, underscoring the importance of this 
necessary practice in providing advocacy to others.

                            APPENDIX

                 ARMY FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET OVERVIEW
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 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, JUNE 17, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                           AIR FORCE POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Manchin, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, 
Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Blackburn, 
Hawley, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. The Committee meets today to receive 
testimony on the plans and programs of the Department of the 
Air Force in review of the fiscal year 2022 President's Defense 
Budget Request.
    I would like to welcome our witnesses, Mr. John Roth, 
Acting Secretary of the Air Force; General Charles Brown, Chief 
of Staff of the Air Force; and General John Raymond, Chief of 
Space Operations. We are grateful to you for your service, and 
the service of all the men and women of the Air Force and Space 
Force, and to their families for their continued support.
    I want to note that is the first appearance of both General 
Brown and General Raymond at an Air Force posture hearing. We 
all look forward to working with you as leaders of the Air 
Force and the Space Force.
    President Biden's defense budget request for fiscal year 
2022 includes approximately $173.3 billion in funding for the 
Department of the Air Force, a 3.26 percent increase from the 
fiscal year 2021 enacted budget. In preparing this budget 
request, the Air Force faced difficult decisions in balancing 
the need to modernize and keep technological advantage over 
near-peer competitors against the need to support ongoing 
operations around the world. The budget request before us tries 
to maintain that balance by increasing funding to address 
readiness concerns while also funding technologies for the 
future fight and modernizing our strategic deterrent 
capability.
    This year, the Air Force is again proposing to retire and 
realign a number of aircraft systems to free up resources for 
implementing General Brown's strategic vision of ``Accelerate 
Change or Lose.'' General Brown, I am interested in hearing 
more this morning on the programs that have received increased 
emphasis under your vision.
    The budget request would also reduce or alter the force 
structure for A-10's, F-16's, F-15's, C-130's, KC-135's, KC-
10's, Joint Surveillance and Target Attack Radar System 
(JSTARS) aircraft, and Global Hawk remotely piloted aircraft. 
Any Air Force proposal of this sort deserves our careful 
consideration. I hope the witnesses will provide the Committee 
with the reasoning for the proposed retirements and 
realignments within this budget request and assure us that any 
decisions are well thought-out. I also recognize that Congress 
has made divestment decisions difficult at times.
    I am also interested in hearing about your continued 
efforts to improve shortfalls within the remotely piloted 
aircraft operator community, and how the Air Force has 
addressed shortfalls within the larger pilot community and 
maintenance personnel.
    One of the primary reasons Congress established the Space 
Force was to consolidate the numerous space activities in the 
Department of Defense (DOD). General Raymond, this is your 
first posture hearing, but you are a familiar face to this 
Committee. I would like to know how you are growing the Space 
Force and normalizing operations within the larger Department 
of Defense, including progress on the merging of the Space 
Development Agency into the Space Force by October 1, 2022. 
With regard to space warfighting capabilities, I will also want 
to know how you are progressing in your role as the lead force 
design architect for the Defense Department's satellite 
constellations.
    Finally, now that the Space Force is standing up, it is 
important to present a trained force with material capabilities 
to the combatant commands. One of the capabilities for the 
combatant commands now under discussion is tactical space 
intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR). This is a 
new operating domain for DOD, and I would ask the witnesses to 
discuss what resources they believe are needed to ensure its 
success.
    Acting Secretary Roth, General Brown, and General Raymond, 
thank you again for appearing before our Committee and I look 
forward to your testimony.
    Now let me turn to the Ranking Member, Senator Inhofe.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Ross, 
General Brown, and General Raymond, thank you for being here 
today and for all of your work.
    The current National Defense Strategy directs our Nation's 
military to be prepared to deter and, if necessary, defeat our 
peer adversaries, including Russia and China. For the Air Force 
and the Space Force to meet that requirement they have got to 
properly man and train and equip to win both air and space. 
Given this budget, I fear this is going to be a very difficult, 
if not an impossible thing to do. I think we are going to have 
to improve upon this budget.
    At the end of the Obama administration, the Air Force was 
at a historic low in readiness and size. Less than 10 percent 
of combat squadrons were ready to deploy, and even fewer were 
prepared for a peer fight.
    We began to improve readiness over the past 4 years and 
started to really get after the modernization concern that we 
all have, and I am concerned that with this year's budget it 
does not look like we are going to have the resources to get 
these things done.
    In previous administrations--and I am talking about 
Barrett, Wilson, Goldfein--the Air Force leadership, they had 
told us that the Department of the Air Force was too small, too 
old to do what the Nation asked to have done. Almost half of 
our aircraft fleet is beyond its service life. Our satellite 
programs were built for peacetime. Now that was all from the 
previous administration.
    China and Russia--just this last week we had General 
Milley, who said that China and Russia combined are already 
spending more to modernize their force than we do, and it 
shows. China will have more stealth fighters than we will in 
the Western Pacific by 2025. So we are getting reports now that 
do not look good at all.
    All the independent studies show that the Air Force needs 
to grow and modernize. This budget does not do either one. 
Procurement actually decreases by almost 15 percent. We keep 
divesting but we do not turn around and follow with 
investments. Nearly all of these bad choices were caused by a 
budget that cuts the defense instead of the achieved 3 to 5 
percent we have been talking about now since 2018. It just does 
not do that.
    So our airmen, our space guardians deserve better than 
that, and we look forward to getting our questions responded to 
and to getting some ideas from the experts who are here today 
as to how we are going to handle these shortfalls that we 
believe we have.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe, and 
again, gentlemen, welcome to the Committee. First let me thank 
Secretary Roth for stepping into the breach and continuing to 
move forward with the Department of the Air Force. Thank you 
sir very much.
    General Raymond, Congress created the Space Force in the 
Fiscal Year 2020 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) with 
the intent to consolidate space activities within the 
Department of Defense. What role should the combatant commands 
play in designing the elements of Space Force capability? What 
contact or communication or coordination do you envision?
    General Raymond. Yes, sir. We have a very close, as you 
would expect, a very close partnership with the combatant 
command. The combatant command is the joint requirements--they 
come up with the joint requirements. Our job then is to 
organize, train, and equip and provide capabilities to meet 
those joint requirements. But the relationship that we enjoy 
today is seamless.
    Chairman Reed. Do you believe that the warfighter should 
have the ability to set the force design or architecture of DOD 
satellite constellations?
    General Raymond. I think how we go about meeting those 
requirements is a service function, and, in fact, that is one 
of the reasons why I think we established the Space Force. This 
Committee and other committees have long said that there were 
65 different organizations that had a role in space 
acquisition, and I think there are 30-something different 
organizations that had a role in force design.
    My view is that is one of the main reasons why we 
established the Space Force, to drive unity of effort across 
the Department. We work very closely to meet those joint 
requirements, but the force design work is service business, 
and we are already making great strides towards that end.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, and not only is 
my time expired but my timing has been off considerably.
    Senator Inhofe. I did not say anything.
    Chairman Reed. You gentlemen should have the privilege of 
making your opening statements. So let me recognize the 
Secretary for his opening statement, and then General Brown and 
General Raymond. Apologies to all my colleagues.

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE JOHN P. ROTH, ACTING SECRETARY OF 
                         THE AIR FORCE

    Mr. Roth. Thank you very much, Chairman Reed, Ranking 
Member Inhofe, and the Members of the Committee. It is, in 
fact, a pleasure to be here today.
    I am also honored to have General Brown and General Raymond 
join me in representing the nearly 700,000 airmen and guardians 
that defend our Nation. We are thankful for your consistent and 
persistent support over the years, which has enabled us build 
the world's greatest air and space force.
    As an integrated force, our airmen and guardians stand 
ready, willing, and able to meet responsibilities to our Nation 
and continue defending the high ground. From 300 feet to 300 
miles off the ground, we protect the Homeland, we project 
power, and we defend democracy.
    The long-term strategic competition with China and Russia 
demands we focus on the capabilities we need to invest in today 
in order to win tomorrow. Our Nation's competitive strategic 
advantage relies on air and space superiority, which is 
underpinned by rapid technological advancement and the 
extension of space as a warfighting domain.
    In line with Secretary Austin's priorities to defend the 
Nation, take care of our people, and succeed through teamwork, 
our fiscal year 2022 budget is the beginning of a journey to 
the air and space forces of 2030. It builds the capabilities 
that allow the Department to modernize while continuing to meet 
national security objectives and defend the high ground.
    Specifically, we are committed to investing in: (1) 
empowering airmen and guardians, (2) capability-focused 
modernization, (3) connecting us to the Joint Force, and (4) 
expanding partnerships.
    First, our airmen and guardians remain the heart of our 
ability to deter and, if necessary, defeat our competitors. We 
are transforming our talent management systems to ensure we 
develop and train leaders with the competence, character, and 
skills required to win high-end fights, and we remain devoted 
to recruiting and retaining a diverse corps of multi-capable, 
innovative talent to outmaneuver our adversaries, today and in 
the future.
    We owe it to our force to provide them with the environment 
where all can thrive. That is why we are directing critical 
resources to rid our ranks of any corrosive elements and 
injustices that degrade our ability to provide a lethal, ready 
force.
    Second, to remain the world's greatest Air and Space Force, 
we must look to the future through a lens of capability-focused 
modernization. Evidenced by nuclear modernization and the next-
generation air dominance platforms, our digital acquisition 
approach revolutionizes how we design and field capabilities to 
the warfighters. Moving forward, we will expand on these 
digital revolutions while also investing in Next Generation 
Space Systems that are resilient and defensive. Space is no 
longer a benign domain. Our U.S. Space Force is purpose-built 
to deter and protect free access to space.
    Third, combatant commanders require an agile military that 
operates seamlessly across all domains at both speed and scale. 
That is why we continue to invest in capabilities like the 
Advanced Battle Management System, our contribution to Joint, 
All-Domain Command and Control (JADC2), which will connect 
every sensor to every shooter across all domains.
    Likewise, access to, and freedom of action in space is 
central to connecting us to the Joint Force. In its second 
year, the U.S. Space Force is laser-focused on integration. 
Investments in space capabilities increase the effectiveness of 
all operations across all domains. The result is a U.S. 
military that is better connected, better informed, faster, and 
more precise.
    Finally, the U.S. Air and Space Forces do not fight alone. 
We benefit from the expertise and capabilities of our sister 
services and coalition forces as well as from a whole-of-
government, commercial industry, and academia. We will continue 
to invest in enduring relationships while expanding new 
partnerships to transform how we fight future wars.
    Members of the Committee, thank you for inviting us to 
testify. I look forward to your support and am confident that 
with your help the Air and Space Forces will be armed with the 
capabilities necessary to protect our Nation and defend the 
high ground.
    We welcome your questions, and I ask that this opening 
statement be entered into the record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection, the opening statement 
will be in the record.
    [The joint prepared statement of Mr. Roth, General Brown, 
and General Raymond follows:]

 Prepared Statement by The Honorable John P. Roth, General Charles Q. 
                Brown, Jr., and General John W. Raymond
                    The Department of the Air Force
    The Air and Space Forces unite under the Department of the Air 
Force and are inextricably linked in defense of the crucial high 
ground, integral to the stability of the global security landscape. 
Under civilian leadership, the Department's nearly 700,000 airmen and 
guardians provide independent and integrated options to national 
leaders while defending democracy, an ideal that President Biden said, 
``holds the key to freedom, prosperity, peace, and dignity.'' The 
Department of the Air Force enhances the peaceful instruments of 
diplomacy, sustains instruments of deterrence that check the spread of 
conflict, and ensures credible consequences for aggression.
    Today more than ever, we and our national security partners must be 
bold. The challenges are many: the People's Republic of China, the 
Russian Federation, contested domains old and new, the vulnerabilities 
of proliferated technology and weapons, climate change, a global 
pandemic and its aftermath, the accumulated results of past budget 
priorities and decisions, and corrosive, difficult human issues like 
extremism, sexual assault/harassment, suicide, and disparate treatment 
of others. We must think and act differently. We no longer have the 
luxury of time to evolve into what we need to be . . . we must harness 
this unique moment together taking action to change. We simply cannot 
maintain status quo.
    Given China's exponential pace of weapons development and extensive 
marshalling of government and industry, we do not have the leeway to 
simply maintain our current approach. China is on track to exceed our 
capacity, so it is our obligation to act with a sense of urgency. China 
poses challenges unlike any other in our Nation's history. We must be 
clear-eyed about these threats and our response to them. We recognize 
the need for change AND must create the capacity for that change. We 
must substantially improve our understanding of China and the Indo-
Pacific region and prioritize the threats accordingly. We cannot afford 
to keep prioritizing near-term operational posture and today's force 
structure at the expense of modernization and investment.
    This Department is particularly suited for these challenges. We own 
the high ground with air and space today, but it becomes more contested 
every day. We cannot allow the erosion of our advantages in this 
crucial high ground in competition now or in a future conflict. The 
speed, reach, and responsiveness of the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Space 
Force reinforce all instruments of national power and norms of 
responsible behavior. We can see, sense, and strike targets near and 
far, and provide global warning, networks, and independent options in 
space. We provide global strike and effects that can hold any target at 
risk within 24 hours--this is not conceptual or theoretical, it is 
reality. Global strike requires a unique fusion of intelligence, 
surveillance, reconnaissance, logistics, access, and speed that only 
the Air and Space Forces provide at a moment's notice. Our ability to 
rapidly eliminate threats anywhere in the world is a consequence of our 
inherent global persistence and reach, not necessarily dependent upon 
pre-positioning or forward basing. We have been exceptional at this, 
and until now we have also been unmatched.
    The Department of the Air Force requires a modernized force that is 
relevant today and long into the future. We are hard at work designing 
our future force. We must invest in the cutting-edge technologies and 
capabilities that are critical to securing our military advantage in 
the future--this includes updating our two legs of the Nation's nuclear 
triad, and our nuclear command, control, and communications systems. 
Enabling our military advantage in the long term means we need to shift 
away from legacy platforms and weapons systems that are decreasing in 
relevance today and will be irrelevant in the future--our aircraft 
fleet is 30 years old on average, and 44 percent are beyond their 
designed service life. Maintaining our aging weapon systems is costly 
now and, without change, will mortgage our future. We must also create 
decision superiority by delivering information and capabilities to 
decision makers at all echelons through a ``military internet of 
things.'' A critical step includes accelerating command and control 
infrastructure by investing in the Advanced Battle Management System 
(ABMS)--a vital contribution by the Department of the Air Force to 
Joint All-Domain Command and Control. We must methodically and 
immediately move out on tough decisions in order to compete.
    Similarly, we must revise the Space Force's force design to be 
resilient against a significantly increasing threat. We must continue 
to innovate, adapt and diversify capabilities to meet the threats that 
challenge America's access and maneuverability in space and that of our 
allies and partners. As we advance space defense, we must 
simultaneously work with stakeholders across the Department of Defense, 
the whole-of-government, our allies and partners, and commercial 
industry to integrate and streamline spacepower efforts. Only then will 
America be able to fully leverage what we have built over the last 
year.
    The Air Force and Space Force have been on the leading edge of 
technology since their inception. By embracing novel authorities such 
as middle-tier of acquisition authorities, and innovative approaches 
such as agile software development, modular open systems approach, and 
digital engineering, we will stay on the cutting edge. We intend to 
capitalize on future investments in modeling and synthetic simulation 
environments to ensure both joint warfighters and operational platforms 
are ready.
    As outlined in the Interim National Security Strategic Guidance, we 
are ``committed to realizing and defending the democratic values at the 
heart of the American way of life.'' Outpacing threats in tomorrow's 
complex global security landscape requires innovative thinking and 
modern investments. We recognize the need for change in order to 
protect the American way of life. This budget lays out a plan to 
modernize our military capabilities, and will allow U.S. diplomats to 
negotiate from a position of strength.
                     empowered airmen and guardians
    America's airmen and guardians conduct combat operations, channel 
innovation, and conquer adversity around the globe all day, every day. 
We know that airmen and guardians are our greatest and most precious 
resource. While weapons systems and tactics inevitably change, our 
airmen and guardians remain the core of our ability to deter and, if 
necessary, defeat our competitors. We need multi-capable professionals 
who bring diverse ideas, leverage digital tools, and outmaneuver and 
out think our adversaries. Our airmen and guardians have committed to 
service and taken oaths pledging their lives to the protection of our 
Constitution. And while we are working to provide the best environment 
possible as we recruit, train, retain, and leverage our strategic 
advantage--our people.
    As a Department, we are working to increase diversity and 
inclusion, build and fortify resiliency, support our families, and 
develop empowered airmen and guardians. We must ensure a culture of 
dignity and respect. We must ensure our people have both high quality 
of service and high quality of life. This starts with ensuring Air 
Force and Space Force leaders represent the Nation and our Core Values. 
Our Nation's defenders must be empowered, resilient, agile, innovative, 
well-led and clear on how much they are valued.
Diversity
    A diverse and inclusive force is a warfighting imperative. The 
Department of the Air Force must attract, recruit, and retain talented 
Americans from all backgrounds to leverage diverse ideas and 
experiences. By harnessing airmen's and guardians' diverse experiences, 
geographic and socioeconomic backgrounds, cultural knowledge, and 
language abilities, we possess an asymmetric advantage over our 
competitors.
    To sustain our lethality and credibility, our force must be truly 
inclusive and reflect the best of the diverse society we serve. This 
includes removing barriers to service--from reviewing our accession and 
assessment tools and career development, to expanding outreach to 
underrepresented minorities through diversity recruiting and increasing 
scholarships at minority-serving institutions. It will also include 
modernizing how we develop airmen and guardians, transforming our 
personnel and talent management systems, and championing a culture of 
support and inclusion for all airmen, guardians, and their families.
Sexual Assault Prevention and Response
    Sexual assault is a crime that undermines force lethality, 
readiness, and mission success. The Department of the Air Force is 
committed to eradicating sexual assault using effective, research-based 
prevention. These efforts utilize assessment tools to identify those at 
high risk for unethical behavior, equip all leaders with information 
and goals to reduce assault risk factors, educate the force on 
intervention skills, and promote positive unit culture to eradicate 
sexual assault. When sexual assault does occur, the Department is 
dedicated to supporting victims and prosecuting those who would harm 
others through the chain of command and Uniform Code of Military 
Justice.
Suicide and Personal Violence Prevention
    The prevention of suicide and interpersonal violence remains a 
difficult challenge. To reduce the incidence of suicide, the Department 
of the Air Force is undertaking a leadership-driven public-health 
approach informed by data and analysis while partnering with academia, 
industry, and our sister Services to include diverse ideas and 
perspectives.
    The Department of the Air Force is also committed to eliminating 
interpersonal violence in any form. Domestic violence, child 
maltreatment, workplace violence, and sexual assault negatively impact 
victims, families, units, mission effectiveness, and the Department as 
a whole. We are dedicated to a strategy that leverages the latest 
science, implements best practices, and incorporates feedback from our 
members. Should these acts of violence occur despite our prevention 
efforts, we are committed to providing victims the necessary care and 
holding perpetrators accountable.
Quality of Life
    We owe our airmen and guardians the best quality of life possible. 
We must continue work to improve all the professional and personal 
aspects of life for each of our airmen and guardians, and their 
families. It includes professional development, housing, child care 
programs, healthcare, education, and spousal employment, among many 
others. We are integrating the availability of quality housing, health 
care, occupational licensing reciprocity, and school caliber into our 
strategic basing criteria--ensuring our families have the best support 
possible. The Department is committed to continuing these worthy 
efforts. Our airmen and guardians deserve nothing less.
                 a department of the air force for 2030
    As the Department of Air Force prepares to celebrate 75 years of 
service to our great Nation, the Air Force is transforming itself to 
address the challenges of near-peer adversaries while the newest branch 
of the U.S. Armed Forces--the Space Force--is creating and integrating 
a Service purposely built to compete, deter, and win in the space 
domain. Both Services, and the entire Department of the Air Force, are 
dedicated to protecting the Homeland and democracy around the globe. We 
must modernize and integrate to meet the challenges posed by great 
power competition, climate change, cybersecurity, fiscal constraints, 
and worldwide pandemics. With Congress's support, we will maintain our 
dominance of the high ground, and we will ensure the American way of 
life for generations to come.
                        United States Air Force
            vision for change--america's air force for 2030
    America fights as a joint team, and the U.S. Air Force is the only 
Service that can meet our Nation's adversaries with mass, speed, 
agility and survivability on near-immediate timelines. The Air Force 
sees, senses, and communicates globally. The Air Force monitors our 
adversaries' movements, deploys forces en masse, deters competitors, 
and strikes enemies without warning. No one else can do it. Without the 
Air Force, the joint force loses. Only with a modernized and ready Air 
Force is the joint team--and our Nation--secure.
    The American Homeland is no longer a sanctuary. Our citizens face 
threats from a variety of actors in both the physical and digital 
arenas. Competitors, especially the China and Russia, continue 
aggressive efforts to negate our long-standing warfighting advantages 
while challenging America's interests and geopolitical position. While 
the Nation was focused on countering violent extremist organizations, 
great power competitors focused on the American way of war. They 
studied, resourced, and introduced systems specifically designed to 
defeat Air Force capabilities that have strengthened the joint force 
for a generation. That is why the Air Force must accelerate change now, 
so we can protect the American way of life in 2030 and for decades to 
come. Simply put, if we do not change, we risk losing. We risk losing 
in great power competition, we risk losing in a high-end fight, and we 
risk losing quality airmen and families.
    The President clearly stated that diplomacy is our primary means of 
engaging with the world: it must be our first tool of choice. The 
President likewise recognizes that our decisions and actions must come 
from a position of strength. The Air Force offers safe, secure, and 
effective nuclear deterrence, which strengthens national policies. It 
is also important to recognize that air dominance is not an American 
birthright. The Air Force is pivotal to deterring these aggressors and 
bolstering our allies and partners. America remains committed to 
freedom of the commons to support maintaining the rules-based 
international order around the globe. Control of the air and enabling 
domains ensures that the joint force has full freedom of maneuver.
    The diversity of our airmen is both a tactical and strategic 
advantage. We are committed to recruiting and retaining the best of 
America. While the COVID-19 pandemic provided new challenges to our 
force, we remain devoted to caring for airmen. Suicide and sexual 
assault persist as challenges that we are tackling head-on. Likewise 
family support programs are vital to our resiliency as a Service. A 
diverse and inclusive Air Force helps us out-innovate adversaries today 
and overcome challenges tomorrow. And, we know that each airman--Active 
Duty, guard, reserve, and civilian, no matter their background--took an 
oath to defend the Nation for all Americans.
    Airmen in the near future are more likely to fight in highly-
contested environments. These complex, all-domain conflicts will result 
in combat attrition rates and risks to the Homeland that are more akin 
to World War II than the uncontested environments to which we have 
become accustomed. Given our ability to project power from afar, 
independent of forward access or lengthy prepositioning timelines, 
Airmen will be the first to respond to many emerging crises. In any 
scenario, the Air Force plays a unique and integral role to our 
collective deterrence and joint warfighting credibility. We must 
accelerate change to meet the challenges our Nation faces. This 
requires a relevant, modern force based on cutting-edge capabilities 
that will survive in future conflicts and shifting away from legacy 
platforms that are increasingly irrelevant.
    The Air Force is expected to provide enduring airpower capabilities 
irrespective of the threat encountered, the technology utilized, or the 
budget provided. The core missions of airpower--air superiority; global 
strike; rapid global mobility; command and control; and intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance--provide unequivocal advantage to the 
joint force. Only the Air Force provides air superiority, global 
strike, and rapid global mobility for the Nation. Without these 
missions, the Homeland is unprotected and America cannot project power 
around the globe. We are innovating and advancing our competencies with 
innovative capabilities such as the Advanced Battle Management System, 
which will increase commanders' decision advantage. Moreover, new 
approaches to our core missions enhance the joint force and answer the 
challenges posed by great power competitors.
    The Air Force's future force design recognizes the need for change 
and the range of threats to the Nation, our allies, and partners. In 
2021, we identified three key capability development areas for 
investment: connect the joint force, generate combat power, and conduct 
logistics under attack. Moving forward we will prioritize the resources 
that will allow us to continue to make investments in these areas, with 
more to come. Additionally, the Air Force will prioritize within its 
resources, affordable, analytically defensible, force structure and 
system capability proposals. Through partnership with Congress, the Air 
Force will prioritize resources to guard the foundations of national 
freedom and independence for America and our allies.
                            air superiority
    Combat power, regardless of Service, often depends on the Air 
Force's ability to deliver air superiority. Our competitors have 
fielded air forces, radar systems, and missiles that can attack our 
territory, bases, forces, and allies and partners, or defend against 
our military actions. Our job is to stop them through control of the 
air. To do this, we build understanding of the air situation and then 
use the right mix of capability and capacity to control the air while 
creating windows of air superiority--no matter the threat. As we stay 
ahead of our competitors, the Air Force needs flexible systems and 
agile design processes to field new capabilities at speed.
    Current platforms will not fully support tomorrow's demands. Airmen 
are deliberately balancing today's readiness risk with capability 
modernization. Remaining ahead of adversaries who are committed to 
negating our technological edge requires investment in advanced 
capabilities. Likewise, access to domestic airspace allows us to train 
in realistic environments, which is essential to developing and 
maintaining these advanced capabilities. Near-peer competitors are 
challenging our capability to command the air. We must take action now 
to ensure the joint force's success tomorrow.
Future Air Superiority Capability
    The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is the cornerstone of our future 
fighter force and air superiority. Achieving air superiority in a 
future fight is strongly dependent on full-spectrum dominance. The F-35 
and its 5th-generation capabilities are part of our fighter force 
design that outpaces key competitors. The Air Force is fully committed 
to the F-35 and needs it to be capable, available, and affordable. As 
we continue to receive the F-35 into the Air Force and increase our 
capability, it is important to manage our F-35 fleet in an intelligent 
and deliberate way to ensure we remain ready to deter adversaries, 
support our international allies and partners, and meet our Nation's 
security commitments worldwide.
    The Air Force cannot successfully fight tomorrow's conflicts with 
yesterday's weapons. Our adversaries recognize that full-spectrum 
dominance is a national strength. As a direct result, competitors are 
investing to overtake our current warfighting advantage in the air. 
Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) ensures we maintain air 
superiority in the future by introducing game-changing technology that 
includes digital engineering, open mission systems architecture, and 
agile software. NGAD is not a single platform--it is a capability 
focused on fielding capabilities to mitigate identified capability 
gaps, not on creating a ``next-generation'' aircraft. The capabilities 
NGAD provides will ensure survivability, lethality, and persistence 
while seamlessly integrating with the Advanced Battle Management System 
via a mix of manned, unmanned, and even optionally-manned aircraft 
along with advanced stand-off weapons.
    We will complement NGAD and currently fielded 5th-generation 
fighters such as the F-22 and F-35 with the F-15EX. Acquiring this re-
designed aircraft allows us to shore up our fighter force while driving 
down sustainment costs, our fleet's average age, and inherent risk. By 
leveraging our partners' investments in the F-15 platform, the Air 
Force is efficiently fielding a familiar aircraft with proven tactics. 
It also boasts an open mission software system, which allows us to 
easily update the computer and avionics software.
                             global strike
    Global strike is critical to our national power and an enduring 
airpower capability. Regardless of the aircraft, weapon, or system 
employed, we must maintain the capability to attack at a time and place 
of our choosing. As China and Russia develop new weapons and defenses, 
we must modernize and develop capabilities to maintain a competitive 
advantage. Both nuclear and conventional strike must be integrated to 
compete against these near-peer adversaries. Air Force strike 
operations are precise, and these effects are delivered through 
standoff capabilities as well as penetrating platforms.
    Nuclear deterrence allows the Nation to negotiate from a position 
of power. A credible, capable, and safe nuclear deterrent provides the 
United States and our allies with an umbrella of protection while 
discouraging the use of nuclear weapons by all nations. Likewise, a 
strong nuclear strike capability deters conflict.
    For precise, conventional attack capabilities to succeed, they must 
be capable of penetrating highly-contested environments. To maintain 
our advantage, the Air Force requires capabilities that incorporate 
domain awareness, full-spectrum survivability, extended range, and 
sufficient payload. It is vital that our capabilities keep pace as 
threats evolve. By leveraging human-machine learning, the right mix of 
manned and unmanned systems, and agile design processes, our global 
strike capabilities will provide responsiveness, precision, 
flexibility, connectedness, and integration across the joint force.
    The United States Air Force has the unique ability to sense, see, 
and strike any target, anywhere, at any time, nearly instantaneously, 
from anywhere in the world. On a daily basis, one aspect of these 
capabilities is on full display as our bomber task forces execute 
training scenarios with our allies and partners. It is no secret that 
potential adversaries closely monitor global activity--these maneuvers 
make adversaries think twice about conducting malign activities while 
reassuring our allies and partners.
    The Air Force's global strike capabilities have the range, speed, 
and flexibility required in a conflict and are far less as dependent on 
pre-positioning or forward-basing. A continued investment in 
modernization efforts to our bomber and tanker fleets will ensure our 
long-range capability for the future. Additionally, a renewed emphasis 
into air base defense, along with Agile Combat Employment and Joint 
All-Domain Command and Control concepts will ensure the United States 
maintains the worlds' greatest military asymmetric advantage well into 
the future.
Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD)
    The Nation requires a fully modernized nuclear triad and supporting 
infrastructure to maintain our nuclear deterrence capability. 
Deterrence operates in peacetime, through the gray zone, worldwide, 
across all domains, and into conflict. And, deterrence requires all 
three legs for a responsive nuclear triad. By not maintaining a 
reliable U.S. Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) force, we risk 
deterrence erosion against not one, but two strategic nuclear 
adversaries. This is too high of a risk to our Nation's security. Our 
ICBMs have provided a highly reliable and secure deterrent capability 
since 1959. Delaying their modernization for the last two decades 
necessitates a comprehensive weapon replacement.
    The Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD), the ICBM replacement, 
capitalizes on the strengths of a land-based triad component that is 
survivable, efficient, and geographically dispersed, while replacing 
aging components and addressing asset attrition along with the ICBM 
force's declining infrastructure.
B-21 Raider
    Our bomber force constitutes the second critical leg of our 
Nation's nuclear triad and the B-21 Raider aircraft will be the 
backbone of our future bomber force. The B-21 will possess the range, 
access, and payload to penetrate the most highly-contested threat 
environments and hold any target around the globe at risk. This new 
bomber will provide the capabilities to deter and, if needed, win in 
high-end, near-peer conflicts. And with bombers as the most flexible 
leg of the nuclear triad, the B-21 underscore our national security. 
This aircraft will support combatant commanders across the range of 
military operations as both a nuclear and conventional bomber.
    Over the past 3 years, the B-21 program accelerated from design to 
physical manufacturing of aircraft. While building test aircraft, the 
program is scaling manufacturing infrastructure and capacity across the 
industrial supply base. In parallel, B-21 beddown preparations continue 
on-track to support the Nation's newest bomber aircraft projected 
arrival in the mid-2020s.
Long-Range Standoff Weapon (LRSO)
    The Air Launched Cruise Missile is nearly 30 years beyond its 
intended design life and faces evolving threats and availability 
challenges. Recapitalization of these missiles via the Long-Range 
Standoff Weapon (LRSO) is vital to our nuclear deterrence capability.
    As our competitors improve their air defense systems, our stand-off 
delivery capability diminishes. In order to maximize our capabilities, 
the Nation requires a modernized bomber fleet and the LRSO. This 
weapon's ability to penetrate contested airspace and survive 
adversaries' defenses holds targets at risk and is a cost-effective way 
to modernize the nuclear triad. Additionally, bombers armed with LRSO 
provide a recallable and re-targetable capability which can hold any 
target at risk--it is both a visible and tailorable deterrent.
Hypersonics
    The Air Force is also investing heavily in hypersonic weapons. This 
cutting-edge technology increases the Nation's rapid strike 
capabilities. By leveraging hypersonic weapons' improved 
maneuverability, America will have additional response options to deter 
adversaries and reassure allies. An operational hypersonic air-launched 
weapon enables the United States to hold fixed, high-value, and time-
sensitive targets at risk in contested environments from stand-off 
distances. To that end, the Air Force is developing the Air Launched 
Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) using the middle tier of acquisition rapid 
prototyping authority. ARRW is on track to be the Nation's first 
operational hypersonic weapon. Hypersonics--and global strike as a 
whole--enable diplomacy by strengthening the negotiating position of 
the United States.
                         rapid global mobility
    The Air Force capability that most directly, and physically, 
supports both the Air Force and our joint teammates is rapid global 
mobility. Airmen conduct Rapid Global Mobility operations to project 
and sustain combat power by moving personnel, material, fuel, and 
supplies across the globe, in and through permissive and contested 
threat environments on short timelines. The combination of speed, 
range, flexibility, and responsiveness is what differentiates air 
mobility operations from other forms of transport and is critical to 
multi-modal operations contributing to a higher pace for Joint All-
Domain Operations. As threats evolve and the United States can no 
longer operate from well-established fixed bases, rapid global mobility 
is the lynchpin to persistent logistics, and we are examining unique 
ways to utilize mobility aircraft.
Air Refueling
    Air refueling, one segment of rapid global mobility, is 
foundational to worldwide power projection. The ability to extend the 
range and persistence of air platforms provides a decisive advantage 
and deterrent against adversaries. To maintain our air refueling edge, 
the Air Force must continue investment in the KC-46 while moving beyond 
legacy KC-10 and KC-135 aircraft. The inability to phase the divesture 
of the legacy tanker fleet shackles funding and manpower resources and 
hampers the fielding of the more capable KC-46 at the rate required to 
support combatant commanders. This negatively impacts air refueling 
capacity and tanker advancement. Offsets from legacy tanker divestment 
in both funding and manpower are critical to the success of the KC-46 
and air refueling as a whole.
Emerging Logistics
    Every 4.2 minutes a mobility aircraft takes off from an airfield 
somewhere in the world. This is a unique opportunity as mobility 
aircraft are envisioned as critical nodes in the Advanced Battle 
Management System framework. Mobility platforms of all types can act as 
sensor nodes, inputting information into the sensing grid and 
increasing a commander's decision advantage. At the same time, we are 
exploring novel approaches to logistics through Agility Prime, which is 
developing electric vertical takeoff-and-landing vehicles (eVTOL). This 
innovative program will help us rapidly move small numbers of personnel 
and equipment around a battlefield and quickly rise to respond to 
emerging challenges such as isolated servicemembers. We are also 
training airmen and developing concepts and practices that allow for 
dispersed, defendable, and mobile logistics networks. We are 
establishing agreements with allies and partners that provide access, 
and the ability to expand access, to key aerial ports, seaports, 
storage nodes, and associated connections.
                        command and control (c2)
    Inherent to outthinking adversaries is the ability to command and 
control (C2) the joint force. Combatant commanders require an agile 
military that operates seamlessly across domain boundaries at both 
speed and scale. The Air Force's current C2 structure is based on a 
Cold War-era design that is vulnerable and slow--a roadblock to the 
goal of rapid and agile decision making. The enemy can easily target 
our C2 structure's centralized nodes with both kinetic and non-kinetic 
means. C2 must be resilient to attack, responsive to rapid changes, 
integrated across all domains, and secure from exploitation. This core 
mission allows the joint force to create an advantage by converging 
units and capabilities at a time and place of our choosing.
    Achieving decision advantage for combatant commanders requires both 
sensors to gather data and a C2 network to translate and share data 
across the joint force. Real-time dissemination of actionable 
information, aided by artificial intelligence and machine learning, 
allows joint warfighting across all domains at a pace faster than our 
competitors. This speed matters to the decision maker and the 
warfighter. And, with the proliferation of technology, future 
warfighters will have the ability to observe, orient, decide and act 
within minutes--as opposed to hours and days.
Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS)
    A critical step towards accelerating command and control 
architecture is the Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS)--the 
Department of the Air Force's contribution to Joint All-Domain Command 
and Control. As a new approach towards information sharing and decision 
management, ABMS enables compressed decision making and converging 
effects without domain or geographic boundaries. As a family of 
capabilities--versus a single system--ABMS creates a digital 
environment capable of increasing awareness, creating greater 
understanding, and enabling superior decision making--all of which is 
critical to prevailing in future conflicts.
    As a simple analogy, ABMS strengthens decisions by channeling 
necessary information and capabilities through a ``military internet of 
things.'' This internet, designed with digital standards, is being 
purpose-built to deliver critical capabilities to the joint force 
including secure processing, connectivity, data management, 
applications, sensor integration, and effects integration. ABMS helps 
overcome the Cold War-roadblock of vulnerable command and control 
nodes. For instance, by transforming from a small number of air 
operations centers to a ``military internet of things,'' ABMS allows 
for agile, distributed, and mobile capabilities able to execute mission 
command even when fractured by an enemy attack.
    ABMS's infrastructure is critical to ensuring the joint force 
connects sensors to shooters with machine-to-machine precision and 
speed while increasing commanders' awareness. And just like the 
development of the internet, ABMS is being built across multiple fiscal 
years. Fiscal year 2020 and fiscal year 2021 have focused on exploring 
how we can best connect sensors and shooters while building 
partnerships with our industry partners. Moving forward, the Air Force 
will prioritize resources to allow the continued building of ABMS's 
digital network environment and infrastructure. By prioritizing the 
resources to support ABMS investment, the Air Force will be able to 
initiate replacement of human-in-the-loop data transfer processes with 
machine-to-machine data exchanges allowing for delivery of multi-domain 
secure processing and data management, connectivity, and applications 
that synchronize sensors and networks. In turn, the joint force is 
enabled to make decisions faster than the adversary is able to respond.
Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications (NC3)
    Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications (NC3) systems act as 
the central nervous system of our nuclear deterrent. They link the 
President and national leaders to the nuclear force--all day, every 
day, under all conditions, without fail. Without NC3, we cannot 
effectively command and control nuclear forces. And without effective 
command and control of nuclear forces, we cannot deter adversaries.
    Previously, electromagnetic pulses posed the greatest challenge to 
our NC3 networks. Now, electronic warfare, cyber-attack, and threats 
from space all provide challenges to key nodes and systems. Russia, 
while embracing a doctrine of nuclear escalation in conventional 
conflict, is nearly complete with its recent full range of nuclear 
modernization efforts. Equally concerning is China's pursuit of new 
nuclear capabilities tailored to achieve its national security 
objectives while also modernizing its conventional military.
    As we modernize our portion of the nuclear triad, we must also 
modernize our NC3. The Air Force is pursuing communication capability 
enhancements with respect to our bomber force and Ground Based 
Strategic Deterrent so they will be fully integrated into our current 
NC3 systems and has flexibility to adapt as NC3 systems are modernized. 
Moreover, we understand that the strategic environment evolves and is 
increasingly dynamic. Our NC3 architectures and modernization plans 
will be adaptable, look beyond the near-term, and integrate with the 
Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS). While ABMS will enable 
conventional forces, it will also enable nuclear forces with rapid, 
multi-path transmissions that will transform NC3 from a Cold War-era 
relic into a C2 network operating at speeds our adversaries cannot 
match.
    Successfully executing command and control across the joint force 
requires information. A major avenue for that information is the Air 
Force's intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities.
          intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (isr)
    The Air Force conducts intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance (ISR) missions to analyze, inform, and provide joint 
force commanders with the knowledge needed to achieve decision 
advantage. This ISR sensing grid consists of a robust multi-layered 
network of sensors, platforms, people, devices, and services with the 
goal of delivering a holistic, accurate, predictive, and timely 
characterization of the operating environment. This network is 
interoperable with the joint force, the intelligence community, allies, 
and partners. Domain awareness is underpinned by automation, 
connectivity and analysis; is rooted in intelligence; and is critical 
to the future of warfare. In that future, ISR underpins the Advanced 
Battle Management System (ABMS) architecture and allows joint force 
commanders to achieve an accurate, real-time understanding of the 
environment. This understanding accelerates decision making, 
effectively conducts command and control, and achieves decision 
advantage ahead of competitors.
    Future ISR capabilities must be survivable against high-end threats 
while leveraging forward-looking investments in command and control 
capabilities--including emerging technology like artificial 
intelligence--to present decision-ready information faster than our 
adversaries' capabilities. The Air Force's current ISR systems are 
viable in a counter-insurgency war, but may not effectively contribute 
in tomorrow's competitive environment. Without investment in additional 
capabilities necessary for the high-end fight, we will be reliant on 
ISR platforms that will be ineffective in highly-contested and denied 
environments. As a result, we risk fighting blind.
Survivable, Relevant Platforms
    ISR platforms play a critical and continuous role in supporting a 
range of military operations. The most important role of intelligence 
in military operations is to provide analysis of key aspects of the 
operating environment to facilitate timely military decisions. Current 
ISR platforms have been able to accomplish this task with relative ease 
because they operated in uncontested and low-threat environments where 
the United States enjoys superiority across all domains of warfare. 
Such freedom of action will not be the case in the future. Future 
threats will challenge the ability of legacy ISR platforms to 
successfully execute their missions.
    In the near future, ISR platforms will feed critical data through 
the Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS), which in turn will 
present near real-time information to joint force decision makers. 
Future airborne ISR platforms will need to survive and operate in a 
more challenging environment. Ongoing modernization efforts will focus 
on a family of platforms that are effective, resilient, and survivable 
against technologically-advanced threats, and able to pass data to 
necessary networks at machine speed. In our discussions going forward, 
we will steer away from platform-centric conversations and focus 
instead on the capabilities needed to inform joint force operations.
    Our adversaries are already fielding technologies that will hold 
our legacy platforms at risk to support the range of military 
operations in a future high-end fight, and the technological evolution 
will continue to accelerate. In order to keep pace ahead of emerging 
threats, we must work with the combatant commands to assess the demand 
signal on current fleets and where acceptable risk can be taken so the 
Air Force can accelerate modernization. Legacy ISR platforms, once 
considered irreplaceable to operations, are often unable to survive or 
deliver needed capabilities on competition-relevant timelines. These 
legacy platforms must be phased out, with resources used to invest in 
modern and relevant systems. Working together, we must take calculated 
risk now in order to reduce the greater future risk.
    For instance, the RQ-4 Block 30 Global Hawk was crucial to the ISR 
requirements of yesterday and today. However, this platform cannot 
compete in a contested environment. And tomorrow's conflicts will be 
contested. Moving beyond this platform allows us to bring the ISR 
enterprise into the digital-age by using sensing grids and fielding 
advanced technology that includes penetrating ISR platforms. The Air 
Force will continue to pursue the Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA RQ-4 Block 30 
divestment waiver in order to repurpose the RQ-4 Block 30 funds for 
penetrating ISR capability. Overall, intelligence collection will 
transition to a family of systems that includes non-traditional assets, 
sensors in all domains, commercial platforms, and a hybrid force of 
5th- and 6th-generation capabilities.
    A comprehensive investment strategy that the Air Force is bringing 
forward synchronizes divestment of legacy platforms, takes calculated 
risk in upgrading existing platforms, and introduces the next-
generation ISR family of systems that will feed into ABMS.
                             new approaches
    The Air Force's core missions encompass both enduring capabilities 
unique to our Service and some capabilities shared with the joint 
force. Airmen are rapidly iterating and innovating improvements to all 
core missions. These new approaches to airpower overcome today's 
roadblocks and focus on tomorrow's great power challenges. Both 
technology and operational concepts benefit from our airmen's 
perspectives. Every day, airmen increase the agility, speed, 
resilience, and lethality of our contributions to the joint force.
Force Generation Model
    The Air Force is also re-examining how we present forces to 
combatant commanders. The core missions of the Air Force continue to be 
in constant demand around the world. And because many of the 
capabilities we provide are exclusive to our Service, our forces have 
been under strain for two decades. This strain negatively impacts 
readiness and our ability to modernize.
    Preparing for near-peer adversaries, the Air Force is implementing 
a new force generation model focused on building and sustaining long-
term, high-end readiness. Our goal is to more effectively articulate 
readiness impacts and capacity limits, and instill discipline into the 
system. Our new, simplified model, realigns the Air Force with the 
Joint Staff's three phase model, is easily understood by combatant 
commanders, builds towards sustainable readiness, and balances current 
operations with the training necessary for future full-spectrum combat 
operations.
Agile Combat Employment (ACE)
    The Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS) not only connects 
sensors and shooters but also enhances persistent logistics by sensing 
the threat landscape and material environment. Persistent logistics, 
with the inherent ability to posture, sense, and respond, is the 
warfighting answer to the key operational problem of logistics under 
attack and enables Agile Combat Employment (ACE). ACE is the ability to 
quickly disperse & cluster forces to a cooperative security location 
and conduct operations across all domains with minimal disruption, 
while maintaining operational flexibility. This new method of operating 
will allow the United States to confuse the enemy and strike at a time 
and place of our choosing with minimal risk. The ability of ACE to 
sustain combat operations through persistent logistics has already been 
validated through multiple exercises across both the Pacific and 
European theaters.
    ACE requires technological advances like ABMS, novel equipment, and 
innovative airmen. Our airmen are tackling ACE, and the larger 
challenge of persistent logistics, by adapting techniques previously 
associated with special operators. Our commanders support these efforts 
by encouraging critical thinking skills and driving decision making to 
the lowest levels--in many cases our youngest frontline supervisors. 
These empowered airmen are innovating new approaches to projecting 
combat power across the globe.
Base and Critical Infrastructure Defense
    The Department's infrastructure defense efforts are currently 
focused on directed energy research, development, test and evaluation; 
counter-small UAS; and investments in cruise missile defense. In the 
coming years, we will steadily increase investment of critical 
infrastructure defense measures to meet the challenges of the future 
fight, ACE, and logistics under attack.
    As China and Russia develop weapons that challenge our superiority 
in the air, they are also making strides that hold our bases at risk. 
While the Air Force will mitigate some risk through persistent 
logistics, the security of our air bases is essential to conducting 
combat operations. Like other aspects of combat operations, base 
defense is inherently joint. And just as the joint force is dependent 
on the Air Force to execute our core missions, the Air Force must 
leverage our sister Services for base defense.
    If future expeditionary and permanent air bases are not protected 
from attack, the Air Force will be challenged to conduct combat 
operations. Without the Air Force's air superiority, the joint force is 
at risk of attack from the air for the first time since the Korean War. 
The Air Force acknowledges that this is a joint problem that requires a 
joint solution, which is why we have allocated experimental funding to 
explore and develop directed energy and kinetic and non-kinetic base 
defense options. Looking forward, the Air Force will prioritize 
resources that will allow it to continue prototyping the ability to 
detect, track, identify, and mitigate small unmanned aircraft system 
threats. Proper base defense encompasses significant decisions with 
far-reaching impacts--we must get this right.
Infrastructure
    We project power, generate readiness, test new platforms, train to 
support joint operations, and provide safe and healthy communities for 
our families at our bases. As the joint force becomes increasingly 
dependent on an integrated battle network, installations also serve as 
key nodes in enabling mission success around the world. The readiness 
and resiliency of installations is a matter of strategic importance to 
ensure the Air Force can always provide combat capability. Changing 
climate and severe weather events are a continual threat to our 
installations, and we have seen first-hand the impacts climate and 
severe weather have on our installations.
    The Air Force views installation resilience as the capability of a 
base to project combat power by protecting against, responding to, and 
recovering from deliberate, accidental, or naturally occurring events 
that impede operations. We are taking a deliberate, holistic approach 
to installation resilience through Department of the Air Force's 
Installation Energy Strategic Plan. This includes improving the 
resiliency of our energy, cyber, infrastructure, and response options.
                      america's air force for 2030
    This year we celebrate America's 245th birthday and next year the 
Air Force celebrates its 75th anniversary. Throughout our history, the 
Nation prospered because of our willingness to adapt and evolve, to 
adjust course when the situation dictates. Democracy is not a 
birthright, and neither is air dominance. And although airpower is our 
great comparative advantage, tomorrow's competitive environment 
requires that we accelerate change or lose.
    Tomorrow's battlespace will be shaped by human talent, climate 
change, constricting budgetary resources, and challenges posed by great 
powers. The Air Force and its core missions stand ready to exploit the 
air domain, provide nuclear deterrence, and underwrite the national 
security America expects and requires. By working with Congress, we 
will protect the Homeland and defend democratic ideals. Moving forward, 
the Air Force will prioritize its resources so it is able to adapt our 
equipment, support our airmen, and bolster our core missions. We must 
continue to adjust course and overcome situational challenges so 
America maintains its airpower advantage.
    America cannot wait to modernize the Air Force any longer, not 1 
year, 1 month, or 1 week. To deter and defeat today's competitors and 
tomorrow's adversaries, we must re-capitalize our Air Force and we must 
do it now . . . the call to accelerate change or lose is not 
hyperbole--it is a requirement.
                       UNITED STATES SPACE FORCE
                     securing an enduring advantage
    The United States is a space-faring nation. We have long understood 
that our Nation is strongest economically, militarily, and 
diplomatically when we have access to, and freedom to operate in, 
space. Unfortunately, potential adversaries have taken note of the 
United States' reliance on space, and this vital national interest can 
no longer be taken for granted; it must be secured. The rapid 
advancements of potential adversaries to threaten U.S. freedom of 
operation in space must be countered with immediate improvements to our 
space defense architecture and capabilities.
    Competitors like China and Russia are challenging America's 
advantage in space by aggressively developing weapons to deny or 
destroy U.S. space capabilities in conflict. Both China and Russia have 
mobile ground-based laser and electronic warfare systems capable of 
jamming and blinding our satellite systems. China has invested in 
satellite grappling technologies, like the Shijian-17 satellite's 
robotic arm, which could be used in future conflicts. Russia has tested 
an on-orbit system that has released a projectile designed to destroy 
U.S. satellites in low-Earth orbit.
    The United States would prefer that conflict not begin in or extend 
to space. Our goal is to deter conflict in space from happening and 
from spilling over into other domains, and the best way to do so is 
from a position of strength. We are prepared to protect U.S. interests 
today and we are moving fast to ensure we can deter in the future, but 
our ability to deter conflict hinges on demonstrating both capability 
and resolve. Over-classification of existing systems threatens this 
ability, and we are developing a reveal and conceal strategy to ensure 
we can compete, deter, and win in this contested domain.
    The Space Force was established to protect U.S. investments and 
freedom of operation in space, provide space capabilities to the 
Nation, the joint force, sister Services, the intelligence community, 
and our allies and partners. The Space Force is designed to be lean, 
agile, and innovative in order to move at speed and compete in the vast 
domain of space. Our small size also makes us the ideal pathfinder to 
validate new structures and approaches that can provide benefit across 
the joint force. While our budget is roughly two percent of the 
Department of Defense's request, the capabilities we deliver underwrite 
the force design of the entire joint force. Space capabilities have 
become a cornerstone of deterrence, not just in space, but in every 
domain. Without space, our forces abroad, security at home, and allies 
everywhere are at much greater risk. If we lose in space, America 
loses.
    We spent the first year inventing the Space Force, with an 
organizational design that reflects the character of our operating 
environment and the nature of conflict that is likely to manifest. A 
headquarters and Field Command structure aligns complementary functions 
and streamlines command authority in the deliberate pursuit of speed 
and agility. Our first field command, Space Operations Command, stood 
up in October 2020 as the primary space forces provider to the 
combatant commands. We will establish the remaining two field commands 
before the end of 2021: Space Systems Command will develop, acquire, 
and field operationally relevant and resilient space capabilities in 
resilient and defendable architectures, and Space Training and 
Readiness Command will develop tactics, a testing enterprise, doctrine, 
advanced warfare training, and a dedicated cadre of warfighting 
professionals. We have already transferred space missions, billets, and 
monetary resources from 23 Air Force units to the Space Force, and we 
are preparing to merge operations, acquisition, and sustainment for 
some space systems currently distributed across the Army, Navy, and the 
Office of the Secretary of Defense, including the Space Development 
Agency beginning next year.
    In our second year, we are aggressively integrating the Service 
into the fabric of national and international security by collaborating 
across the Department of Defense, interagency, commercial industry, and 
our allies and partners. As the Space Force creates independent 
military options for decision makers, we are preparing a force 
presentation model to optimize integration and delivery of space 
capability to the joint force. We are working to streamline acquisition 
processes to increase decision speed and expedite capability 
development, creating an integrated test enterprise, and doing the 
analytical and developmental work to create the most effective and 
efficient force design for the domain to bring unity of effort across 
the department. Lastly, we have initiated planning for a National Space 
Intelligence Center to provide scientific and technical intelligence as 
well as foundational space intelligence to the Service and the 
intelligence community. These initiatives make us more resilient and 
competitive, and they will put us in a better position to sustain 
continuing advantage.
                  developing and caring for guardians
    The character of operations and aspects of potential conflict in 
space are fundamentally different from the military art of terrestrial 
domains. Vast distances and speeds, potential for first-mover 
advantage, and unique operating environment demand experts that are 
familiar with these physical characteristics. As in all other domains, 
guardians must stay ahead of adversaries to give joint commanders and 
national civilian leadership new space-based security options. This 
requires a dramatic change in how we attract, recruit, develop, train, 
and retain talent.
    We are committed to ensuring that the guardians reflect the diverse 
character of the United States--it is a national security imperative. 
Diversity gives us the perspective and skills to meet the challenges of 
our security environment and ensures we can bring our Nation's best 
talent to bear on the hardest problems. In order to meet these goals, 
we must work hard to address tough issues like sexual assault, 
extremism, and discrimination within the force; solving these problems 
is essential to building a Service that ensures talented people of all 
genders, orientations, races, ethnicities, and beliefs are included and 
empowered to reach their full potential.
Guardian Strategy
    To win the battle for talent, we have created a Human Capital 
Office to develop a new strategy for unified talent management for all 
guardians, in pursuit of an inclusive and team-centric culture. Our 
small size creates the opportunity and the mandate for a tailored 
approach to caring for and developing our guardians from accessions to 
retirement and beyond.
    This ``Guardian Strategy'' will lead digital enablement by creating 
a digital cadre, an optimized data infrastructure, increased process 
automation, and new digital platforms. Using interviews and other 
assessment tools as well as focusing our Reserve Officer Training Corps 
presence at select universities will support both diversity efforts and 
needs for space related research and technical grounding. We look to 
develop and employ talent by taking a competency-based development 
approach, mandating more robust feedback systems, and creating 
potential-based promotion assessments with sequenced talent management 
boards. In our first year, professional development opportunities and 
promotion rates have increased significantly; we must reinforce 
systemic change to make this an enduring effect.
    The Space Force is developing its own officer and enlisted 
professional military education (PME) programs to fit within the 
broader concepts of the Guardian Strategy to ensure that all members 
are career-long learners, and that learning directly relates to the 
success of their current and future duties. Space Force PME will focus 
on the development of space-minded warfighters who are credible and 
effective in multi-domain warfare and the joint environment. We have 
already expanded space curricula at Airman Leadership School; stood up 
a Space Force Non-Commissioned Officer Leadership Academy; expanded the 
Schriever Space Scholars Program at Air University; and created the 
West Fellowship for Senior Developmental Education. Finally, we are 
taking a proactive approach featuring teams at the unit level to 
strengthen social, physical, and mental attributes to energize personal 
and organizational resiliency. As the Space Force takes care of 
guardians and their families, it must prepare them to defend our 
Nation. Space Force talent must be deliberately managed by well-
positioned human resources mission partners in the field commands and 
headquarters office to support both military and civilian guardians.
Training and Doctrine
    We have completely redesigned our space training and doctrine 
across all space operations competencies, beginning with publication 
last year of a foundational doctrine document. Our training has 
elevated from basic operation of space systems to threat- and target-
based advanced space warfare training. Guardian training and doctrine 
focuses on seven core competency areas, through advanced training and 
education: orbital warfare, space electromagnetic warfare, space battle 
management, space access and sustainment, military intelligence, cyber 
operations, and engineering and acquisition. Our shift in training and 
doctrine must be complementary to our capabilities and reflect the 
reality of our current and future missions. Additionally, Space 
Training and Readiness Command is bringing together training and 
doctrine to support our tactics, strategies, and theories of victory.
                         value of partnerships
    An independent Service focused on space has already provided 
greatly expanded opportunities for partnerships with civil and 
commercial space organizations within the United States and with allies 
and partners around the world. Working through the Department of 
Defense, close cooperation with the National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration and the Department of State has ensured a unified U.S. 
voice in discussions about responsible behavior in space with foreign 
governments. Similarly, through the Department of Defense, we continue 
to work hand in hand with the Department of Commerce on shared 
interests including space traffic management, positioning, navigation, 
and timing programs, applications, and efforts to maintain the space 
industrial base. We are working to expand cooperation with commercial 
partners using both traditional and innovative development pathways; 
seeking means for tighter fusion to take advantage of the enthusiasm 
and energy in the commercial space sector.
    Internationally, our partnerships have historically been built 
around one-way data sharing agreements with a small number of 
countries. As the proliferation and importance of space capabilities 
increases around the world, we are fostering greater cooperation with 
international partners across the board. For example, a hosted payload 
agreement with the government of Norway will save us more than $900 
million and helped us get capability on orbit 2 years faster. We are 
also working with NATO to further integrate space capabilities and 
knowledge in that alliance, including the stand-up of the first NATO 
Space Operations Center within NATO Air Command. Cooperation with 
allies and partners, on both capability development and operations, 
continues to provide opportunities to decrease cost and increase speed 
and innovation.
                       creating a digital service
    Founded in the Information Age, the Space Force was ``born 
digital.'' We are harnessing modern era advancements and tools to 
accelerate innovation and ensure our military advantages in, to, and 
from space. Under the leadership of the newly established Technology 
and Innovation Office, the Space Force focuses on partnering with U.S. 
Government, science and technology industries, and academia to build a 
digital Service to support Space Force missions and business 
operations.
Digital Headquarters
    Leaders at every echelon of the force require access to data and 
analytics in order to make informed decisions with speed and precision. 
A new data analytic environment and automation tools will streamline 
headquarter processes, enable seamless data sharing, increase decision 
space, and accelerate warfighting outcomes. Digital transformation is 
occurring in operational readiness, talent management (recruiting and 
onboarding), programming and budgeting, and capability development. In 
capability development, digital models will enhance analyses of 
alternatives, iterate requirements decomposition, improve cost 
estimation fidelity, and ultimately accelerate the planning, 
coordination, and development of optimum solutions to meet critical 
warfighter needs.
Digital Operations
    Commanders and unit-level guardians are empowered to innovate 
inside their mission operations, explore novel concepts for space 
domain awareness, Joint All-Domain Command and Control, collaborate 
with small business innovators, and align innovation efforts for 
transition into operations. This effort includes partnerships with the 
Joint Artificial Intelligence Center, industry, and academia to advance 
use of artificial intelligence applications and research.
Digital Workforce
    Continuous transformation requires digitally-fluent military and 
civilian guardians. Therefore, we are funding software-coding training 
for military and civilian personnel and leveraging Department-wide 
digital training efforts to improve digital literacy using industry-
leading commercial courseware. To achieve the goal of a digital 
workforce we must cultivate our collective digital acumen, develop an 
expert cadre of ``Supra Coders,'' and equip and empower them to apply 
agile software practices, use artificial intelligence, and data 
science. Finally, we must place them strategically across the force to 
unleash their talent and energy toward inventive, innovative solutions 
in operations and acquisition.
          accelerating capability design, decision, & delivery
    The Space Force must modernize its architecture to survive and 
execute spacepower missions in a contested domain and do so at speed. 
To this end, the Space Force is engaged in an end-to-end transformation 
of organizations and processes to accelerate delivery of operationally-
relevant capabilities. Consistent with our effort to become a ``Digital 
Service,'' we will exploit our digital engineering systems as a 
backbone to connect multiple processes and accelerate capability 
development activities from analysis to integration, decision, and 
acquisition.
Integrated Analysis for Optimal Design
    The Space Warfighting Analysis Center (SWAC), currently aligned 
under the Space Operations Command, is leading analysis, modeling, 
wargaming, and experimentation to generate new operational concepts and 
force design options for the Department of Defense. The SWAC integrates 
domain expertise with unique analytic tools, datasets, and intelligence 
to develop operational architecture options to fulfill space missions. 
By driving unity of effort, we reduce cost, duplication of effort, and 
increase our speed of decision and action
Digital Engineering to Better Inform Requirements
    Rather than static reports, the SWAC's design options are digital 
models, which enable testing of proposed capabilities through 
simulation in an environment that accurately reflects fast evolving 
threats and the space domain. The Space Force Strategy and Resources 
Office (SRO) integrates SWAC's design options with the appropriate 
processes to develop Service capability and programmatic options for 
presentation to the Joint Requirements Oversight Council and Deputy's 
Management Action Group. The SRO also ensures digital models generate 
required data artifacts to inform oversight; Planning, Programming, 
Budgeting, and Execution; and acquisition actions.
Streamlined Governance for Timely Decisions
    In order to support the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for 
Space Acquisition and Integration, who will eventually have Service 
Acquisition Executive (SAE) authority and chair the Space Force 
Acquisition Council (SAC), the Space Force has established a supporting 
Program Integration Council (PIC). As a collaborative interagency 
leadership council, the PIC facilitates cooperation and deconfliction 
between National Security Space Enterprise stakeholders and ensures 
planning, alignment, execution, delivery, and optimization of 
capabilities across all space mission areas. Streamlined coordination 
across the enterprise via the PIC and SAC improves collaboration and 
better enables timely decisions by the SAE. The Assistant Secretary of 
the Air Force for Space Acquisition and Integration is an essential 
element of this approach and we look forward to implementing this 
congressionally-directed change as quickly as permitted by law.
Consolidated Space Acquisition Enterprise for Agility
    Finally, in the summer of 2021 the Space Force will stand up the 
Space Systems Command (SSC) to provide for cooperation across space 
acquisition within the Department of the Air Force. Initially comprised 
of the former Space and Missile Systems Center (SMC) and the Service's 
launch enterprise, SSC will also have a limited administrative support 
relationship with the Space Rapid Capabilities Office (SpRCO) and--as 
of the beginning of fiscal year 2023, per statute--the Space 
Development Agency (SDA). By aligning three organizations with a 
pedigree in traditional acquisition, disruptive acquisition, and 
commercial acquisition, the Department of the Air Force can access 
best-of-breed solutions. Because SSC acquirers will receive digital 
models with traceable requirements, Program Managers and Program 
Executive Officers will be equipped to make faster, more agile 
decisions and trades. In addition, the space acquisition enterprise 
will continue to improve both commercial and allied integration.
                  missile warning and missile tracking
    Strategic and theater missile warning and missile tracking 
capabilities provide indications and warning to protect the Homeland, 
joint forces and allies abroad. The evolution of threats to on-orbit 
systems force us to re-think both how we protect and defend our 
strategic assets, and how future strategic capabilities should be 
designed to mitigate threats. The Space Force is partnering with 
combatant commands, the Missile Defense Agency, National Reconnaissance 
Office, and the Space Development Agency to design and build a 
resilient missile warning architecture for the collective defense of 
our Nation, joint force, and allies.
Next-Generation Overhead Persistent Infrared (OPIR)
    We are designing and developing the future architecture for missile 
warning and missile tracking. Next-Generation Overhead Persistent 
Infrared (OPIR) will succeed the current Space Based Infrared System 
(SBIRS) and will provide increased missile warning, missile defense, 
battlespace awareness, and technical intelligence capabilities with 
resiliency and defensive features to counter emerging threats.
    The ground system for Next-Gen OPIR, also known as Future 
Operationally Resilient Ground Evolution (FORGE), migrates satellite 
command and control to the Space Force's Enterprise Ground Services, 
modernizes Mission Data Processing to implement an open framework, and 
upgrades Relay Ground Stations to meet United States Space Command's 
operational requirements. We are using Middle Tier Acquisition 
authorities to rapidly prototype solutions. This pathfinder approach 
delivers the first resilient geosynchronous satellite and associated 
ground system in fiscal year 2025 and the first polar satellite in 
fiscal year 2028.
                  positioning, navigation, and timing
    The Global Positioning System (GPS) remains the ``gold standard'' 
for positioning, navigation, and timing for the United States and the 
world. GPS underpins the global economy and our way of war. Adversaries 
have long recognized our dependence on GPS and have proliferated 
technologies to degrade, deny, and spoof GPS signals for civil and 
military users. We are pursuing modernization efforts across the entire 
GPS architecture to include upgrades in space, ground, and user 
segments. The Space Force's future GPS architecture provides more 
robust positioning, navigation, and timing to the joint force, ensuring 
at least one technical generation advantage over any adversary.
GPS Space Segment
    The Space Force is pursuing significant satellite enhancements to 
our GPS constellation, including higher-power military signals, new 
civilian signals, upgraded nuclear detection system payloads, and 
hosted search-and-rescue payloads. GPS Block III features improved 
signal strength and accuracy, increased anti-jam power, and a longer 
expected design life. The next block of GPS, GPS Block IIIF-- available 
for launch in fiscal year 2026--will deliver regional military-code 
protection, a higher power signal in a given geographic area of 
operation to boost anti-jam capabilities for contested environments.
GPS Operational Control Segment Next (OCX)
    Operational Control Segment Next (OCX) will develop and field a 
modernized ground system required for the command and control of GPS 
satellites. The OCX program is on track to meet current Acquisition 
Program Baseline cost and schedule milestones. OCX provides expandable, 
robust information assurance architecture to significantly improve 
cyber resiliency, enabling the latest military and civilian GPS 
signals, improving cyber protection, and allowing the system to evolve 
to combat emerging threats. We have completed product test, are 
currently progressing through segment integration, and will transition 
to operations in fiscal year 2022.
Military Global Positioning System User Equipment (MGUE)
    Military GPS User Equipment (MGUE) will modernize user equipment to 
enable precision fires, safe navigation, and time coordination across 
multiple platforms in GPS-degraded environments. Military-code receiver 
cards embedded in weapon systems enable cyber-secure, anti-jam, and 
anti-spoof precision, navigation, and timing for the joint force and 
our partners. MGUE Increment one (1) completed developmental testing of 
the Army and Marine Corps lead platforms in fiscal year 2020. MGUE 
efforts support finalization of card design, testing, and integration 
with Navy and Air Force lead platforms. MGUE Increment two (2) 
leverages the MGUE Increment one (1) technology to the maximum extent 
while addressing the production of M-Code integrated circuits far into 
the future.
                        command and control (c2)
    Our top priority is to develop a Joint All-Domain Command and 
Control System to ensure United States Space Command and their joint 
and coalition warfighting partners have the capability they require to 
command and control in a contested domain. We have made considerable 
gains this year, fully integrated in, and helping lead, the Advanced 
Battle Management System (ABMS) effort. In recognition that legacy 
space command and control capabilities are insufficient for us to 
prevail in future conflict, we have prioritized the delivery of space 
command and control capabilities using a development, security, and 
operations (DevSecOps) approach to acquisitions. Leveraging the agile 
approaches of commercial software developers, we are rapidly developing 
cyber-resilient capabilities that enhance U.S., allied, and partner 
nation operational-level space warfighting capabilities against the 
adversary.
    The initiatives below build and sustain the infrastructure required 
to connect sensors to shooters using machine-to-machine planning and 
tasking of warfighting capabilities.
Unified Data Library (UDL)
    The Space Force built and delivered the Unified Data Library (UDL), 
a cloud-based, cyber-accredited, multi-classification data store that 
facilitates universal data access and serves as the foundational 
element of the ABMS data architecture in partnership with the Air 
Force. UDL provides all-domain secure Space Domain Awareness (SDA) data 
sharing from all Services and sensors to support space-focused Battle 
Management and Command and Control; it is also extensible to fit the 
needs of Joint All-Domain Command and Control. This effort adds long-
term access to a wide variety of space domain awareness data sources 
including commercial, allies, and academia. The UDL creates unified, 
agile procurement of commercial products to bolster Combined Space 
Operations Center and National Space Defense Center operations. 
Additionally, it protects satellite tracking data by seamlessly 
integrating defensive cyber operations.
Space C2 Open Architecture Operational Prototype (SCOOP)
    The Space Force has also delivered the Space C2 Open Architecture 
Operational Prototype (SCOOP) program, a modern cloud architecture that 
is connected to 40 sites nationwide. Leveraging the Department of the 
Air Force's prior work on open architecture standards, SCOOP delivers a 
command and control capability for our most pressing needs, with the 
ability to connect into other domains, and serves as the foundation of 
our next generation C2 capability.
Space Domain Awareness (SDA)
    Space Domain Awareness (SDA) is the cornerstone of our ability to 
command and control warfighting capabilities. The Space Force budget 
invests in new terrestrial radars, optical sensors, and space-based 
capabilities and commercial partnerships to increase the quantity and 
quality of space observations. A robust SDA architecture improves our 
indications and warnings, ensures freedom of action in space, and 
enables joint and coalition options to defend critical space 
capabilities. Additionally, investments in secure connectivity and data 
sharing tools improve our collective understanding of our adversaries' 
capabilities and intent.
Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications
    As part of Department of Defense's efforts to modernize the nuclear 
triad, the Space Force will provide and modernize the space and mission 
control segments for worldwide, secure, jam-resistant, and survivable 
communications. We are pursuing digital development efforts for the 
future disaggregated strategic and tactical satellite communications 
systems to meet emerging threats in the 2030-timeframe. Evolved 
Strategic SATCOM will continue the strategic mission of the Advanced 
Extremely High Frequency (AEHF) satellite program with improved on-
board resilience features, upgraded satellite capabilities, and 
cybersecurity features. We are leveraging rapid prototyping 
demonstrations to speed the delivery of the space segment to meet the 
warfighter need date in 2032.
Space System Prototype Transition (SSPT)
    Space System Prototype Transition (SSPT) is a portfolio of programs 
that rapidly advance next-generation space capabilities to the 
warfighter at the speed of relevance. The portfolio leverages the 
commercial industrial base and demonstrates common defense through 
partnerships to enhance resiliency. One example is the development and 
integration of space domain awareness payloads on two Japanese Quasi-
Zenith Satellite System spacecraft. The hosted payloads will increase 
sensor diversity and enable space surveillance and event detection over 
USINDOPACOM in the geosynchronous orbit regime.
Transition to Enterprise Ground System (EGS)
    Enterprise Ground System (EGS) will enable the transition from a 
family of legacy stovepiped satellite C2 systems to an improved, open, 
resilient, and common platform. The effort funds modernized system 
interfaces, virtualization, and the translation of mission applications 
to ensure rapid response to emerging threats and integration of new 
capabilities. We continue to develop a Minimum Viable Product for 
foundational services and infrastructure to provide an initial 
Enterprise Capability. EGS will integrate multiple new mission partners 
within the Space Warfighting Construct & Missile Warning mission 
threads, scale multiple services for existing mission partners, and 
integrate them at one or more of three EGS locations. Continued 
investment provides foundational services and infrastructure to deliver 
enterprise-wide command and control services to all Space Force 
satellite programs. We are on track to deliver a fully integrated 
system by 2028.
                        assured access to space
    National Security Space Launch (NSSL) provides assured access to 
space for the Nation's most critical warfighting and intelligence 
capabilities. To meet the full set of National Security Space 
requirements, we must continue to competitively invest in domestic 
launch providers' development of new launch systems. The Space Force, 
National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), and the National Aeronautics and 
Space Administration have a coordinated strategy to certify new 
entrants to launch payloads, and continue to work with different launch 
providers to reliably meet our national requirements. The Space Force 
recently completed a 5-year strategy to bolster a commercially 
competitive market and transition to domestic launch systems by 
awarding the NSSL Phase Two procurement contract.
    Leveraging this strategy, we are pursuing five National Security 
Space Launches to deliver warfighting capabilities on time. Following 
the outcomes of our Phase Two launch procurement strategy, we will 
continue to engage with industry partners regarding emerging launch 
requirements and technologies to invest in continued assured access to 
space.
National Security Space Launch (NSSL) Enabling Investments
    We are investing in multiple public-private partnerships to develop 
enabling technologies for future space access, mobility, and logistics. 
Targeted investments in orbital transfer, on-orbit servicing, digital 
engineering, and novel on-orbit propulsion technologies will increase 
U.S. access and freedom to operate in space. We will continue to invest 
in providers of domestic launch services enabling our transition from 
non-allied space launch engines to domestic rocket propulsion systems. 
We will also continue technical maturation, risk reduction, and public-
private partnership investment to expand domestic and cost-effective 
solutions for assured access to space. Additionally, the Space Force's 
research and development standards must reflect both the mission areas 
and the threat environment. The Space Force is building a more 
defensible and resilient space defense architecture by disaggregating 
on-orbit capabilities. We are building agile and threat responsive 
systems to complicate targeting. Additionally, we are building 
redundancy and resiliency countermeasures into the spacecraft and 
payload designs of our systems.
                              way forward
    Congress established the Space Force to ensure freedom of action 
for the United States in, from, and to space. This Department of the 
Air Force Posture Statement builds on fiscal year 2021 efforts in 
strengthening our ability to deliver flexible capabilities and 
strategic options at operationally relevant speeds to outpace emerging 
and dynamic threats. The Service's streamlined and integrated 
organizational design also creates new military options with the joint 
force, inter-agencies, industry, and our partners and allies. We are 
eager to work with Congress to build a common understanding of both the 
strategy and the investments needed to secure our Nation's vital 
interests.

    Chairman Reed. General Brown, do you have a statement, 
please?

STATEMENT OF GENERAL CHARLES Q. BROWN, USAF, CHIEF OF STAFF OF 
                         THE AIR FORCE

    General Brown. Good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Inhofe, and distinguished Members of this Committee. I am 
humbled to serve as the Nation's 22nd Air Force Chief of Staff 
and to represent 689,000 total force airmen serving today. Your 
support for them and their families is greatly appreciated. It 
is an honor to be up here before you to day with Acting 
Secretary Roth and my fellow service chief and long-time 
friend, General Jay Raymond.
    As a general officer, I have spent the last decade-plus in 
positions overseas and/or supporting operations in the Middle 
East, Europe, Africa, and most recently the Indo-Pacific. With 
this context, I have been able to look at the Air Force from 
varied perspectives, and I personally have seen the reemergence 
of the strategic competition and how the character of war has 
changed. The strategic environment has rapidly evolved. We have 
not changed fast enough to keep pace.
    The People's Republic of China has recognized modern 
warfare as a contest among systems, not individual units or 
platforms. Accordingly, Secretary Austin has prioritized China 
as our pacing threat. Meanwhile, Russia continues to modernize 
its armed forces, increasing the capability of its missiles, 
strike aircraft, warships, artillery systems, and nuclear 
weapons.
    Competition and future warfare will be conducted across all 
domains simultaneously. It will be a transregional and global 
undertaking with complex actions and actors intertwined. To 
account for these changes, our Nation, our Air Force must 
change faster than we have been. If we continue on a path of 
incremental change, our advantage erodes, and losing becomes a 
distinct possibility.
    The Air Force recently updated our mission statement, to 
fly, fight, and win--airpower anytime, anywhere. To execute 
this mission, now and into the future, we must transition our 
Air Force and our operational concepts from today to tomorrow, 
and we must do so much faster. That is why I wrote ``Accelerate 
Change or Lose,'' to call attention to the changes in the 
strategic environment, because the mix of capabilities that our 
Air Force has now, that were good enough yesterday, that are 
good enough today, will likely fail tomorrow. Our future Air 
Force must be agile, resilient, and connected, with the ability 
to generate near-instantaneous effects anytime, anywhere. Not 
just sometime, in some places, but anytime, anywhere.
    Our Air Force is the only service that provides our joint 
teammates, allies, and partners the assurance of air 
superiority, the advantage of global strike, and the agility 
and rapid mobility through a range of capabilities most 
requested by today's combatant commanders. Additionally, the 
Air Force ISR and command and control capabilities provide the 
ability to sense, make sense, and act.
    But while our past and current capabilities have sufficed 
for the last three decades, they will not effectively perform 
in tomorrow's highly contested environment. To address these 
challenges that will endanger our national security of 
tomorrow, the transition to the future Air Force design must 
start today.
    Finally, we have a foundational responsibility to our 
airmen and their families. I remain focused on ensuring we are 
ready and that we have the tools, infrastructure, and talent 
management systems to provide the environment where all can 
reach their full potential. The future Air Force design 
advances our core missions and new approaches to warfighting 
that will holistically support every combatant commander and 
benefit every service chief. Investing in your Air Force is an 
investment in the Joint Forces.
    Ladies and gentlemen, the bottom line is simple. We must 
modernize for the future and focus on capabilities that 
maintain our advantage, both today and tomorrow. For decades, 
we have collaborated with the Congress and our industry 
partners to modernize for the future. Now to fulfill our 
responsibility to ensure our national security, we must be 
willing to change, to make the tough choices required to 
deliberately transform our Air Force to the future force we 
need to compete, deter, and win. We have done it before, and I 
am confident together we can do it again.
    Thank you for the opportunity to be here today, and I look 
forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Brown. General 
Raymond, please.

  STATEMENT OF GENERAL JOHN W. RAYMOND, USSF, CHIEF OF SPACE 
                           OPERATIONS

    General Raymond. Good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking 
Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of this Committee. It 
is an absolute honor to appear before you today with Secretary 
Roth, the Acting Secretary of the Air Force, and General C.Q. 
Brown, the Chief of Staff of the Air Force, and a long-time 
friend and teammate. On behalf of the guardians stationed 
worldwide, let me begin by thanking you for the continued 
leadership and strong support that you have provided to the 
United States Space Force (USSF) .
    The United States is a spacefaring nation. We have long 
understood that our Nation is strongest, economically, 
diplomatically, and militarily, when we have access to and 
freedom to maneuver in space. For the past three decades, we 
have been able to take that access and freedom to maneuver for 
granted.
    Unfortunately, as the National Defense Strategy and the 
newer Interim National Security Strategy identified, this is no 
longer the case. Both China, our pacing threat, and Russia are 
doing two things to eliminate the lead that the United States 
currently enjoys. First, they are rapidly developing their own 
space capabilities to provide them the advantages that we 
currently enjoy. Second, they are building weapons systems 
specifically designed to deny our access to space and the 
advantages that that provides. These threats include robust 
jamming of the global positioning system (GPS) and 
communications satellites; directed energy systems that can 
blind, disrupt, or damage our satellites; anti-satellite 
weapons, both in space and launched from the ground, that are 
designed to destroy U.S. satellites; and cyber capabilities 
that can deny our access to the domain.
    Thankfully, with the strong support of Congress, especially 
this Committee, the United States seized on the opportunity to 
make needed changes to stay ahead of that growing threat by 
establishing the United States Space Force. This leadership is 
resonating globally and is already delivering results for our 
Nation.
    We have slashed bureaucracy at every level in order to 
empower our guardians to move at speed and to increase the 
accountability necessary to operate in this domain. We have put 
together a forward-leaning human capital strategy, allowing us 
to build a more highly-trained, educated, and developed 
warfighting force, while taking care of our guardians and their 
families throughout their careers. We wrote our first doctrine 
to clearly articulate the independent value of space power to 
joint and coalition forces, and this importance is fully 
captured in the Department's new joint warfighting construct 
that is being developed.
    Our international partnerships are stronger, with many of 
our partner nations following our lead and elevating space in 
their own militaries. We have created a new end-to-end 
capability development process from force design and 
requirements to acquisition and testing, enabled by a digital 
thread to move at speed while driving unity of effort across 
the Department. We have rejected stovepipes by actively working 
with the Joint Force, other government agencies, and industry 
to compete, deter, and win at an affordable cost.
    The Space Force cannot and will not tolerate business as 
usual. Our demanding mission and lean force demand nothing less 
than a new standard. This budget reflects the shift of many 
Department of Defense space activities into the Space Force, 
yet we remain only 2.5 percent of the overall Department of 
Defense budget. We are committed to stretching every dollar to 
its limit to buy as much capability as possible for our Nation. 
Our Joint Force does not close on its warfighting requirements 
without space. Space is the force multiplier we must continue 
to invest in so that we can compete, deter, and win, and 
without it we risk losing.
    This fiscal year 2022 budget balances the need to protect 
capabilities we have on orbit now while shifting and 
modernizing to a more defendable architecture in the future. It 
is an investment that provides assured space capabilities to 
our sister services, our Nation, and our joint coalition 
partners. These demanding tasks could not have been possible 
without sustained support from Congress, and for that I thank 
you. We cannot afford to lose space.
    I am absolutely honored and humbled to serve as the first 
Chief of Space Operations and to have the opportunity to serve 
side-by-side with the incredible guardians that I am privileged 
to lead. It is because of them that our Nation enjoys the 
benefits of space today, and it is because of them, America's 
sons and daughters, that we will compete, deter, and win in the 
future.
    I look forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Raymond, and 
thank you all, gentlemen, for your testimony and service.
    Since I had a chance to unleash a few questions out of 
order, let me ask one question to General Brown and then yield 
and recognize Senator Inhofe.
    General Brown, Section 139 of the National Defense 
Authorization Act for fiscal year 2021 requires the Secretary 
of Defense to certify that the retirement of the U-2 or Global 
Hawks will not denigrate the capability of combatant commanders 
to carry out their missions. Has the Secretary of Defense made 
such a determination that would allow you to retire 20 Global 
Hawk aircraft in this fiscal year 2022 budget?
    General Brown. Chairman, we are actually in the process of 
working through that waiver. I personally have sat down with 
the Deputy Secretary of Defense to discuss the waiver package. 
I do not know exactly what the status is with the Secretary of 
Defense, but we are on the path to get that waiver approved.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Since I have had my 
question time, let me recognize Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Inhofe. No, feel free to go ahead and take more.
    All right. General Brown, first of all thank you for the 
discussion that we had in my office. I appreciate that very 
much, and I really learned a lot as to what we are really 
trying to get to. As I mentioned, China will have more stealth 
fighters in the Western Pacific than us in 2025. That is just 
one of the consequences of our very low number of aircraft 
procurements since 1990, and we can get into the discussion. I 
hate to keep comparing. My fear for what might be happening to 
that F-35, with what has happened and did happen back in about 
2004 with the F-22. The only reason I keep bringing that up, I 
am about the only one around here old enough to remember that. 
So we want to make sure that we profit from the mistakes we 
made back at that time.
    We need the total capability that we have, for the stress 
on the airmen, and to that point Mr. Kendall testified at his 
confirmation hearing to be Secretary of the Air Force, that the 
way to bring down sustainment costs is to procure more F-35's.
    So, General Brown, I was surprised that no F-35's were on 
your unfunded priority list, and quite often I think we had 48, 
I believe it was, in the budget, and at time we used that same 
number before, 48 new F-35's. But we have also been having F-
35's on our commitment for our unfunded priority list, and they 
were not.
    So I would kind of like to know, first of all, I am sure 
there is some reason that we did not have more on our unfunded 
list this time as we have in the past, and then some kind of a 
statement as to your commitment as to the F-35 being the 
cornerstone of the Air Force. Now that is not just for us on 
this Committee. That is for our allies that are out there, 
because they are depending on that, because there is not 
another game in town.
    Do you have any response as to why we did not have unfunded 
F-35's in this last budget?
    General Brown. Chairman Inhofe, I appreciate the 
conversation as well and I appreciate the opportunity to share 
with you, and with the Committee as well, as I have said 
publicly.
    The F-35 is the cornerstone of our fighter fleet. Right now 
it is the second-largest of our fighter fleets inside the 
United States Air Force. At the same time, it is a very capable 
platform, and in watching the mission capable rates, the 
mission capable rates for the F-35 are on par with the rest of 
our fighter fleet. So not only for the United States Air Force 
but also for our allies and partners, and I personally engage 
with many of our allies and partners that are flying the F-35, 
and I know they feel the same way about the F-35.
    Senator Inhofe. Yes, but I am just saying that you can not 
say it enough, because they have a big investment, a lot to 
rely on, on that vehicle. And so I think it serves a good 
purpose to remind them that yes, that is our cornerstone, it 
will remain that way, and we are going to increase that fleet.
    General Raymond, we discussed this also in our meeting. One 
of the main reasons we created the Space Force was to focus the 
Department efforts in space. It seems to me, and I suspect I am 
not the only member up here on this dais that is a little 
confused in terms of what are we trying to--what is our goal 
right now? I know there are some things that we have done that 
we are going to be leaving with the services, some will be 
transferred over to Space Force. I am not exactly sure.
    First of all, what is going to be transferred over, and 
then, secondly, what would be our timing on this, and what 
would it look like at the end? In the remainder of my time, 
just another 40 seconds, any comments about that? What is this 
supposed to look like, and when would we anticipate the signs 
are, therefore, to end that transformation that is taking place 
now?
    General Raymond. Yes, thanks for the question, sir and I 
appreciated the opportunity to meet with you yesterday.
    We are driving unity of effort across the Department. As 
you said in your question, I think that is one of the reasons 
why we stood up the Space Force. We have come to agreement with 
the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force on what missions should 
transfer over, and I appreciate the close partnerships that we 
have enjoyed with all three of those services.
    We are going to begin bringing those capabilities over this 
year, and it is largely capabilities that the other services 
operated in space, and we will bring those over. What we wanted 
to be careful, though, is that we did not break the other 
services as we stood up at Space Force. We did that work 
initially with the Air Force over the last year. We have 
brought all the mission sets from the Air Force now into the 
Space Force, and beginning in this fiscal year we will begin 
the transfer of Army and Navy capabilities into the force as 
well, to unite those efforts under one service.
    Senator Inhofe. When would you anticipate that those 
expectations would be met?
    General Raymond. Sir, that begins this year, and will bleed 
over into next year to finalize it. But over the next two 
fiscal years we will complete that shifting of capabilities 
from those other services.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you very much, General. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, and Acting Secretary Roth, 
General Brown, and General Raymond, thank you all for being 
here this morning.
    General Brown, I would like to begin with you, and I am 
sure you will not be surprised to know that I want to talk 
about the KC-46, because we had the opportunity, back in 
February, to fly with airmen from the Pease Air National Guard 
Base. It was really impressive to see how proficient they were 
getting with the new aircraft, and I understand that is 
happening across the country.
    What I understand the Air Mobility Command has said is that 
units like the 157th Air Refueling Wing will begin taking on 
operational taskings from United States Transportation Command 
(TRANSCOM) this summer. When do you expect that to begin? Do 
you have a date?
    General Brown. Thank you for the question, and I also 
appreciate the opportunity to go with you on the KC-46 and meet 
with our guardsmen from New Hampshire.
    It will be this summer. I do not have a specific date but I 
can get back to you on that. But actually, the KC-46 capability 
release, to be able to refuel, to be able to use those that 
have KC-46's that are already mission capable, the New 
Hampshire Air National Guard will be at the top of the list of 
one of the units that will be asked to help support.
    Senator Shaheen. I am really pleased to hear that. Thank 
you. Can you talk about how investments in this 2022 budget are 
going to help to meet the goal of full operational status for 
the KC-46's, and how will it, or will it, address the remote 
vision system, and what is the update on making that 
operational, what the status is of that.
    General Brown. So in this particular budget as we continue 
to pursue and procure KC-46's, the 46 has been delivered here 
just this past week and we will continue on that path.
    On the remote vision system, we are making great progress 
there with the Air Force engineers and with the Boeing 
engineers, to bring that capability, and it is staying on track 
to deliver fiscal year 2023 time frame. The other aspect of 
this is, as we discussed, is the ability to retire some of our 
KC-10's and KC-135's frees up the airmen that we are going to 
train to fly the KC-46's that are coming off the line, and so 
working all those in concert will be important to ensure we 
have the capability from the KC-46.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, great. I am really pleased to hear 
that, and we are looking forward to having those folks who have 
been transferred out of New Hampshire back, to be able to fly 
all those missions.
    General Raymond, this week National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration (NASA) Administrator Bill Nelson testified 
before the Commerce, Justice, and Science Appropriations 
Subcommittee, which I chair, and he talked about the need for 
the United States to continue to lead the world in outer space, 
and as we saw, China sending two astronauts into space this 
week, it really resonates that we have competition. He also 
talked about the importance of landing the next humans on the 
moon, and that being done by the United States, not by China or 
Russia.
    So can you talk about how leadership in the civilian 
space--no pun intended--factors into your decision-making as 
you are looking at the decisions you are making for the Space 
Force, and how do you coordinate, or do you coordinate your 
investments with NASA, since many of those overlap as we are 
looking at what we are doing in space?
    General Raymond. Yes, ma'am. It is a great question. I have 
had the opportunity now, on two occasions over the last week, 
to talk to new Administrator Nelson, former Senator Nelson, a 
great man, and we are lucky to have him as the Administrator.
    We work very closely with NASA. We send people to NASA to 
be astronauts. We partner with them on launch. We partner with 
them on developing norms of behavior. We partner with them on 
developing training capabilities. In fact, NASA had some 
capabilities that they developed back in the Apollo days, and 
we said rather than having us build our own thing, why don't we 
just take that and modify it? So we have done it.
    So I am very pleased with the partnership that we enjoy. We 
both rely on the same defense industrial base. We also have 
strong partnerships with commercial. We also partner with 
partners, and NASA has a very broad set of partners. We are in 
the partnership-building business, and that relationship really 
allows us to help develop our partners as well.
    So I am very grateful for the partnership in NASA and look 
forward to working very closely with Senator Nelson, now 
Administrator Nelson, in the future.
    Senator Shaheen. Do you agree with his analysis that it is 
going to be really important for the United States to lead in 
the next lunar landing?
    General Raymond. I absolutely agree that it is important 
that the United States lead in all aspects of space. It is 
critical. It underpins every instrument of national power.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Let me call upon 
Senator Fischer, via Webex.
    Senator Fischer. Welcome to all the members of the panel 
today.
    Secretary Roth and General Brown, I appreciate the strong 
support this budget shows toward nuclear modernization, 
including critical programs like the Ground Based Strategic 
Deterrent (GBSD) and the Long Range Stand Off Weapon (LRSO). I 
am also happy to see the Air Force moving forward with the 
Survivable Airborne Operations Center as a replacement to the 
E-4B. This was something that the Air Force studied for a long 
time, and it is gratifying to see action begin to happen here.
    General Brown, let me say again how much I appreciate you 
traveling with me and a number of other Senators to Minot, 
North Dakota, and also to United States Strategic Command 
(STRATCOM) earlier this year. Very briefly, sir, do you 
continue to believe that the GBSD program is essential?
    General Brown. Senator, I appreciate the question, and most 
definitely. The program has been on track. It is essential to 
our strategic deterrence. It supports every one of our 
Operating Plans (OPLANs). [Inaudible] the foundation of our 
OPLANs to provide our nuclear deterrent. So it is very 
important to our security, and I appreciated the opportunity to 
engage with you on that topic when we had a chance to visit 
both STRATCOM and Minot.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Another vital component to our 
modernization effort involves extending the life of the B-52 
through 2050, and equipping the plane's new engines is central 
to this effort. This budget requests significant additional 
resources in fiscal year 2023 for re-engining, and I am 
concerned that some people have portrayed this as an increase, 
as reflecting a 50 percent cost growth in this program.
    Secretary Roth, that is not an accurate statement by those 
people, is it?
    Mr. Roth. No, it is not. We just recently approved the 
program, total program costs about $11 billion. That was a 9 
percent increase over the previous estimate, and all that was 
an update to the estimate. Based on some of the virtual 
prototyping that had taken place in the program, a reassessment 
of the requirement, a look at the complexity of the integration 
of a commercial engine into the aging platform that the B-52 
is, and a look at the current price of the industrial base and 
the realities of buying from the current industrial base.
    So again, back to your question, it was a 9 percent 
increase in the total acquisition cost.
    Chairman Reed. Senator Fischer, there seems to be an 
interruption in your signal.
    We will restore communication with Senator Fischer, but at 
this time I would like to ask Senator King if he would prepare 
his questions.
    Senator King. Thank you. It is always daunting to 
substitute for Senator Fischer.
    General Brown, I am concerned about readiness and aircraft 
availability. There was a Government Accountability Office 
(GAO) report in the winter of 2020 that indicated various 
numbers for various airplanes, ranging from 70 percent down to 
52 percent, sometimes even the 40 percent range. How do we 
improve that? That just strikes me as unacceptable. I do not 
know the comparable figures for the private sector, but my 
sense is if Delta Airlines had a 70 percent availability for 
their aircraft they would be out of business. Is it parts? Is 
it maintenance personnel? Is it intellectual property so that 
we can make our own parts? What are the bottlenecks on 
availability?
    General Brown. Senator, I appreciate the question, and like 
you I am concerned to make sure that we have the readiness that 
is required to support the combatant commanders, but also to 
ensure that our airmen are fully trained and capable to support 
our national security requirements.
    One of the key factors that impacts our readiness is our 
weapons system sustainment, but I also look at the age, the 
average age of our fleet, which is about 28 years, in addition 
to about 40 percent or more of our fleet is past designed 
service life. So our focus on not only sustaining the current 
capability with our weapons systems sustainment investment, but 
at the same time being able to modernize. What we are finding 
is that our aircraft now, over the past 2 decades, are breaking 
about a third more, taking about 10 percent longer to fix. We 
have the right manpower from a maintenance perspective, but 
they are young. What I mean by that is we plussed up manpower 
there just several years ago. A lot of them are what we call at 
our entry level, and we are building that experience at the 
same time we are operating some older platforms.
    Senator King. But my understanding is part of the problem 
is parts availability, it can take ages to get parts from the 
manufacturer. Are we developing programs where we can build our 
own parts? I foresee a day where every depot has a 3D printer 
and we have the intellectual property as part of the purchase 
of the airframe in order to be able to make our own parts, so 
that we do not have to be at the mercy of the original 
equipment manufacturer (OEM).
    General Brown. Senator, we are doing that, and the intent 
is to do as much as we can with some of the 3D printing, 
particularly as we look at some of our older platforms, where 
we have diminishing supply from our vendors, because some of 
those vendors do not exist anymore. So taking opportunities to 
advance in our technology with the 3D printing is exactly one 
of the things we are working on.
    Senator King. Well, I hope that in future acquisitions part 
of the deal is always to purchase the intellectual property, so 
that we can make our own parts and not be dependent upon the 
supply chain.
    General Brown. That is exactly our approach, is we do our 
digital acquisition approach and be able to have not only 
access to the intellectual property but also using open-mission 
systems and agile software to be able to redesign very quickly, 
or adjust quickly, and print like you described.
    Senator King. Let me ask a question that Senator Fischer 
might have wanted to ask. Have you done a cost analysis of the 
new GBSD versus life-extension for Minuteman-III over a long 
period of time? What is the difference in cost?
    General Brown. Well, to date the difference in cost is $38 
billion. It is $38 billion cheaper to do GBSD than to life-
extend the Minuteman-III.
    Senator King. In addition to a cost savings, you are 
gaining a new generation of technology. Is that correct?
    General Brown. Exactly. For our nuclear portfolio, it needs 
to be safe, secure, reliable, and deter the threat, and with 
the GBSD it will be more safe, more secure, more reliable, and 
better deterrence against a threat, with a very capable system.
    Senator King. General Raymond, you mentioned unity of 
effort in your testimony. You are trying to coordinate the work 
within the development of the Space Force. Can you expand on 
that for a few minutes--actually, for 39 seconds?
    General Raymond. For 39 seconds? Yes, sir. I will be happy 
to. It is good to see you, and thanks for traveling with me to 
Colorado. As we showed you out there----
    Senator King. Did you get your driver's license, John?
    General Raymond. I did. Thank you. As I showed you out 
there, sir, we have made great progress in developing a 
strategy and then architecting and designing the force to meet 
that strategy. That is driving unity of effort across Missile 
Defense Agency (MDA), National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), 
Space Development Agency, the Space and Missile Systems Center. 
For the first time in my career we have got all five working 
towards a common vision now and a common architecture. That is 
the value of standing up this service, and that is going well.
    On the requirements side, the Joint Requirements Oversight 
Council (JROC) just signed a memo that says the Space Force is 
going to be the lead integrator for requirements for this space 
across the Department, and so that is another big steps that is 
in close partnership with that force design work.
    Then, finally, and I know I have got the red light [points 
to timer], on the acquisition side, we are driving unity of 
effort as we have designed our space systems command to bring 
disruptive innovators and align them with our more traditional 
partners, to have competition and go fast.
    Senator King. Well, I appreciate that, and I am out of time 
but I do--and perhaps I will submit a question for the record 
on the issue of joint capability acquisition, software, for 
example. We have Goldwater-Nichols for joint operation. I am 
concerned that we have got software being purchased all over 
the Defense Department that may be duplicative and may even be 
incompatible. So I will be submitting that question to you and 
the Secretary.
    Thank you all very much for your service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Let me now 
recognize, via Webex, Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, thank you very much, and I 
would have been happy to defer to Senator Fischer to finish her 
questions, but here we go.
    I understand Senator Shaheen has already asked about the 
KC-46. But let me just say I appreciate the progress that is 
being made. But KC-135's continue to perform a majority of 
refueling missions. Last year's NDAA prohibited the Air Force 
from retiring the KC-135's until after fiscal year 2023. The 
budget submission includes plans to retire 18 KC-135's, and, of 
course, the Legislative branch will eventually make the 
decision there.
    But I am concerned that the Air Force wants to move KC-
135's to a backup inventory. I remain concerned about this, and 
it seems to me that your decision is budget driven rather than 
needs driven. If you had a higher top line, General, would you 
be forced to make this decision to retire 18 KC-135's, in a 
reversal of the clear language of the NDAA?
    General Brown. Senator, I appreciate the question. I really 
do believe that I would actually probably continue on the same 
path we are today, to transition from our aging KC-135 to the 
newer KC-46. That is to balance where we are headed as an Air 
Force, to transition to the future. In addition to that, the 
manpower in our airmen that operate and maintain those KC-135's 
are the same airmen that operate and maintain our KC-46's, and 
so I have got to have the ability to, as we bring KC-46's 
online, to send them to training. Because it is not a flip of a 
switch, and have them transition to this newer platform.
    It will be a balance, and so right now we are on the path 
to have 179 KC-46's and still have 300 KC-135's in our 
inventory to meet the requirements laid out by the United 
States Transportation Command.
    Senator Wicker. If you had more money, you still would make 
the very same decision?
    General Brown. Well, if I had more money I would actually 
reconsider. What I would also do is, actually, I am not so sure 
I would put it into tankers, because of all the other 
requirements we have as an Air Force. That is where the 
analysis that I have been working very hard with our staff on, 
to ensure that any decision we make is thought through very 
carefully, we have the analysis to back it up, because with a 
degree in engineering I am all about the facts and the numbers. 
That is what I actually do. I would not commit to you whether I 
would put it into tankers but I would take a hard look at 
tankers but also other capabilities that the United States Air 
Force requires.
    Senator Wicker. Well, we are prepared to take a hard look, 
in this Committee, too. Just with regard to training aircraft, 
I understand that a plan is being finalized to retire the T-1 
training aircraft, currently used to support specialized 
Undergraduate Pilot Training (UPT), and the Air Force intends 
to move to an increased reliance on simulator training. General 
Brown, what is the Air Force's plan for the future of the T-1 
training fleet? In a recent forum, retired Air Force General 
James Holmes commented that there is no substitute for live 
training. That make sense to me. Are you concerned about the 
possible impacts that overreliance on simulator training could 
have on the quality of the new Air Force UPT graduates?
    General Brown. When I look at our UPT and our training 
there is a combination of things I am actually looking at. One 
is the T-1 and how we are looking at the T-1 here in this 
budget but also to the future of how long we keep it into the 
Air Force. It is also a balance of being able to use some of 
the technology of some of our simulators as well as using live 
flying, because you have got to be able to do some of both.
    What I have seen, really, throughout my career, is the 
increasing capability of our simulators to make it more 
realistic. But there is nothing like hearing that engine noise, 
smelling that JP-8, and actually being airborne, and so we have 
to do a combination of both and ensure we get the best training 
for our pilots.
    Senator Wicker. Well, does the current plan contain enough 
of that actual in-the-cockpit training?
    General Brown. Senator, I believe it does, and this is 
something that I do pay very close attention to, as I work with 
Air Education and Training Command, to talk to them about some 
of the initiatives we have, to ensure not only the production 
numbers but also the quality of our students when they graduate 
from pilot training.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, my time is about to expire. I 
will submit a question to you, General Brown, about an article 
written under the pseudonym of Ned Stark, concerning a call for 
senior officer reform in the Air Force, an insider's 
perspective on the promotion process in the Air Force. I will 
submit that to you for the record, sir, and thank you all for 
your service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. We are trying to 
re-establish connection with Senator Fischer. Once we do we 
will recognize her in order, to finish her questioning. But at 
this time let me recognize, via Webex, Senator Gillibrand, 
please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, I can 
attest the internet is down in the Senate right now, so I am 
using my phone.
    I am very excited, for Secretary Roth and General Brown, to 
hear that the Niagara Falls Air Reserve Station (NFARS), one of 
my state's best defense equities, is a candidate for hosting 
the KC-46A Pegasus reserve component. In addition to the Air 
Station's strategic location, and that it possesses much of the 
needed equipment, the community around NFARS is one of the best 
in the country, that supports servicemembers, their families, 
and has an economy, amenities, and services, including health 
care and affordable housing, that allows for this to be a very 
strategic location.
    Will you be looking at these types of issues as you make 
your decision about where to locate, and to what extent do 
considerations made by the Air Force include economic, 
educational, and health care options for spouses and 
dependents?
    Mr. Roth. As you may be familiar, we have what we call a 
strategic basing process, that is very analytically based, and 
uses a series of criteria, that include an assessment of the 
individual communities in terms of kinds of the educational 
opportunities, the opportunities for spouse employment, and 
those kinds of things. So it is part of our strategic basing 
process and criteria, and will be used across the board for all 
our basing decisions.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. On the issues of sexual 
assault in the military, it is something obviously this 
Committee has been looking at for the last 8 years, and I 
personally have been focused on trying to create reforms that I 
believe can begin to get at this scourge. One of the main 
reforms that we have settled on over the last 8 years is 
drawing a bright line at all serious crimes and taking those 
crimes out of the chain of command.
    The reason why there is a bright line at serious crimes is 
because this is what our allies did--the U.K., Israel, Canada, 
Australia, Netherlands, Germany--for defendants' rights. They 
thought if you could have a less biased system, a more 
professionalized system, a more highly trained system, and 
certainly have the decision-maker not know the perpetrator or 
the plaintiff, that it would be able to be a fairer, more just 
system. So they did it for defendants' rights.
    This reform is something that 66 Senators now believe is 
the right way to improve our military justice system so that 
justice is possible, through professionalization and through 
making sure that there is no bias.
    This will help our military in two ways. One, I believe it 
will mean more cases will go to trial, sexual assault cases, 
and I believe that the right cases will be chosen, and so they 
might end in conviction, since we have a very low conviction 
rate right now.
    Second, there has been a lot of talk the last few years 
about racial bias in the criminal justice system, in the 
military system, and that black----
    Chairman Reed. We are having, obviously, technical 
difficulties. I am told that the internet in Russell Building 
is down, and that, again, when we restore communication with 
Senator Gillibrand we will allow her to finish her questioning, 
along with others.
    But at this point let me call on Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, gentlemen, 
let me begin by just saying thank you for your literally 
decades of service to our country.
    General Brown, an issue this Committee consistently hears 
about, from the combatant commanders, is the lack of ISR 
capability. I understand this budget proposal asks to retire a 
number of JSTARS, along with some RQ-4's. I would like to hear 
your thoughts on how the Air Force will continue to meet the 
ISR requirements while you retire a portion of your existing 
ISR fleet, recognizing that right now we are not able to meet 
the demands of the combatant commanders today. Then I guess I 
would ask, also, as a follow-up on that, I understand the Air 
Force is no longer requesting to procure additional MQ-9 
aircraft. Does the Air Force plan to divest these valuable 
assets in the near future as well?
    General Brown. Senator, I appreciate your question, and one 
of the things from the United States Air Force is the demand 
signal from combatant commanders for ISR from the Air Force far 
exceeds the capacity that we do have. So there is a great 
appetite for what the Air Force provides.
    Part of that is how we balance risks between the United 
States Air Force and the combatant commanders. That is the 
dialogue I have with the combatant commanders. The aspect I 
look at, as we move to the future, is we have got to ensure 
that ISR is persistent, connected, and survivable. We have 
persistence today, not as connected as I want to be, and not as 
survivable as I think we need to be as we look to the future.
    As I work with the combatant commanders it is how we make 
that transition. At the same time, how do we look at moving 
information, because it is really about the information to make 
decisions, versus a platform. Now I am thinking about terabytes 
of data that we move through other means, like Advanced Battle 
Management System. So it is a combination of those that we work 
together.
    On the MQ-9, we are not procuring MQ-9's but we are going 
to still have MQ-9's in our inventory until the middle of the 
next decade. We still have deliveries that will occur into 
fiscal years 2024 and 2025. The MQ-9's that we do have, we are 
going to modernize to make them more resilient and connected, 
like I just described, and those upgrades will occur on the MQ-
9's that we do have, and they will be in the inventory until 
about 2035 or so.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Just continuing on, General 
Brown, reviewing the Air Force's budget requests I am concerned 
with the decreasing flying hours that are indicated, by about 
7.5 percent. I am curious about your opinion about how this is 
going to impact how we can safely train pilots, and ultimately 
enabling the service to meet the National Defense Strategy 
objectives. I know there have been several reports in the press 
already where there has been a question as to whether or not 
these airmen are able to have access to aircraft and the 
numbers needed to maintain the proficiency right now. How do we 
add into that an anticipated 7.5 percent reduction in the 
budget for that?
    General Brown. Part of that 7.5 percent reduction was 
actually us going back and doing the analysis on under-
execution of our flying hour program, going back to fiscal year 
2019. We made some adjustments in fiscal year 2020, realizing 
that COVID--in 2021--COVID has impacted what we really 
executed, and so what we are really trying to do is normalize 
and get closer to our actual execution.
    The balance of that is also to ensure that we have the 
right amount of training and flying hours to be able to execute 
and train our airmen, by using that funding that we take out of 
the flying hour, to ensure we actually have the availability of 
aircraft to match up with the flying hour program.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General.
    Secretary Roth, bomber inventory continues to be stressed, 
and the retirement of 17 B-1B's, while understandably 
necessary, depletes an already undersized and critical force. 
Are there any further planned cuts to the bomber force before 
adding significant numbers of the operational B-21's to the 
inventory?
    Mr. Roth. The answer is what we are going to do is manage 
the transition from the current force of bombers that we have 
to the ultimate bomber inventory that we will have, that will 
be dependent on the B-21 and B-52. So we will manage that in a 
conditions-based, events-based kind of manner, that as B-21's 
come online we will then start retiring B-1's and B-2's. We 
will not get ahead of our headlights on that. We will ensure 
that the B-21 is delivering on time and on schedule as we go 
forward.
    The 17 B-1's that were identified this year were the oldest 
and most expensive to repair B-1's, that, to a large extent, 
were not flying anyway. That is where we are now, and we will 
stay there for a while, and then what we are going to look 
forward to is as the B-21 delivers we will start retiring B-
1's, and B-2's.
    Senator Rounds. Just a confirmation that it is your 
understanding that the B-21 is on time and on budget.
    Mr. Roth. To date it is an exemplary acquisition program. 
It has met every significant milestone to date. The first 
flight we anticipate is in fiscal year 2022, so the first 
airplane will actually get off the ground next year.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. There appears to 
be a disruption of telecommunication services around the 
Capitol, so would urge all of our colleagues to come in person 
to ask their questions. That would expedite the hearing 
immensely.
    With that let me recognize Senator Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Roth, 
last year it was announced that the Hawaii Air National Guard 
had been selected to have one of four national offensive space 
control squadrons. I understand that the Hawaii Air National 
Guard is in the process of establishing the 293rd Space Control 
Squad based on the Pacific Missile Range facility on Kauai.
    Mr. Secretary, I know that you are working with the 
National Guard Bureau on a plan to add a reserve component to 
the Space Force. What is the status of this plan?
    Mr. Roth. Yes. We have been working on that plan over the 
last year or so, and that plan has been sent to the Office of 
the Secretary of Defense, to the Secretary of Defense, for his 
approval. So as soon as we can schedule a session with the 
Secretary of Defense we plan to go through that with them, and 
then we will work with both the Office of the Secretary of 
Defense, ultimately probably the Office of Management and 
Budget, and will be forwarding a proposal, based on the 
Secretary of Defense's decision.
    Senator Hirono. So in terms of the status of a plan, then, 
would you envision it within this fiscal year, or next, that 
this plan would be in place?
    Mr. Roth. We actually hope it is imminent. I can have the 
Space Chief jump in here too and give you more details. We are 
hoping it is imminent. You know, we have done what we have to 
do, and so we are working with the Secretary's staff to get 
something we would anticipate this summer.
    Senator Hirono. ``Imminent'' is good right now. For General 
Raymond. Could you envision a missile tracking system in space 
replacing ground-based radars like Homeland Defense Radar-
Hawaii (HDR-H)? If so, what is the timeline for these 
satellites coming online?
    General Raymond. Yes, ma'am, first of all, we are doing 
work right now to design that, and we have united the entire 
Department towards that end, including the Missile Defense 
Agency, the Space Development Agency, Space and Missile Systems 
Center, and others. We are doing that force design work as we 
speak, and then we will begin to program for that this next 
budget, this shift. But to do that mission effectively, you 
have to do that from space. It provides the coverage and the 
ability to do that critical mission.
    Senator Hirono. So are you saying that this kind of 
tracking system in space will replace the planned HDR-H, which, 
by the way, I and other members have concerns that that is not 
even in the President's budget this year.
    General Raymond. We are not looking to replace--it is kind 
of a dual path. Like today in missile warning, we have 
satellites that are on orbit and we also have missile warning 
radars, and so it requires both.
    Senator Hirono. Just so I can be clear then, you are saying 
it is not necessary to replace the ground-based defense radars 
but it could be in addition to. Is that what you just said?
    General Raymond. Yes, ma'am. The space capabilities that we 
have today, for example, the missile warning detect launches 
immediately upon launch, and then as the missiles fly they go 
through radar paths. It requires really both of those assets to 
be able to do that well.
    Senator Hirono. Okay. Based on your response I continue to 
have concerns that HDR-H is not in the budget.
    For Secretary Roth, I note in your testimony a commitment 
to diversity, which, of course, I applaud. Do you have a matrix 
for determining whether your efforts to removing barriers to 
service, as you note in your testimony, are, in fact, resulting 
in a more diverse Air Force?
    Mr. Roth. Yeah. We actually have a data-driven process. We 
have established an Office of Diversity and Inclusion. The head 
of that office is a direct report to the Secretary. So there 
has been a plan outlined. We have something, for example, 
called the Barrier Working Group, and other kinds of groups 
that are looking at doing climate kinds of surveys and doing 
analysis on some of the trends in both the hiring trends and 
the promotion trends and those kinds of things.
    We have an overall process that includes education, that 
includes training, it includes additional guidance to hiring 
panels and the like, as well. So again, our attempt is to do 
focused, data-driven kinds of initiatives to try to get at 
improving our posture overall.
    Senator Hirono. Does this mean that you can already provide 
us with information as to how you are doing on the diversity 
front?
    Mr. Roth. Let me get back to you. Let me check and see, in 
terms of--because, to some extent, the office--in defense of 
the office, it was just stood up this year. But we have some 
climate survey results from previous surveys that we have done. 
So we will work with your folks, if that is okay, and we will 
get with you and show you what we have.
    Senator Hirono. I am glad that this is happening, because 
having an intention to diversify does not mean anything unless 
you actually do those kinds of things that will result in 
diversity.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have some other questions for 
the record.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Cotton, 
please.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
gentlemen, for your appearance today.
    General Brown, as Congress considers this year's budget 
requests, and the Department of Defense's top line budget, it 
has become increasingly clear that the Services cannot rely on 
budget increases to acquire the capabilities the Nation will 
require in the future unless Congress takes action to change 
the President's Budget. If not, though, the Services will need 
to find money inside their existing budgets.
    I understand that retiring certain older aircraft is 
critical to finding these funds to invest in what the Air Force 
seeks for the future, like F-35's, KC-46's, the Advanced Battle 
Management System, B-21's, and a new ground-based 
intercontinental missile. Can you please describe some of the 
risks that the Air Force will have to accept if it is not able 
to pursue those planned retirements of older aircraft?
    General Brown. Sure, Senator. I appreciate the question. I 
would categorize the risk in really four categories: 
modernization, manpower, maintenance, and operational.
    On modernization, what it would do is really force us to 
continue to operate today's equipment and not be able to meet 
the requirements I expect from future combatant commanders.
    On manpower, from a manpower standpoint, the airmen that we 
have today, that are tied up in some of these older platforms 
or legacy platforms, are the same airmen I am going to require 
to operate the newer platforms. So I have to be able to balance 
and train them to be ready to execute.
    On the maintenance, what I see is our sustainment costs 
continue to go up, and as those sustainment costs go up it 
actually then decreases our buying power, to be able to use 
that money to purchase new equipment, and as you have that new 
equipment, it is a bit easier to maintain and sustain as we go 
forward.
    Then last is on operational. There are impacts for 
readiness, based on aircraft availability, for example. I also 
think about our airmen and our joint teammates that we put at 
risk with capabilities that may not meet up against the threat. 
The last is really the risk to our national security 
objectives, when you pull it all together, what the Air Force 
provides with our joint teammates to make sure that we do the 
things that the Nation has asked us to do.
    Senator Cotton. Those are all worrisome risks, I would 
agree. I think we should be mindful as a committee, too, about 
those risks, before we try to maintain some of these aircraft 
in the fleet, if it is time for them to go or we pursue future 
aircraft, occasionally for parochial reasons.
    Is it also fair, General Brown, to say that some of the 
money you hope to save by these retirements is going to be 
spent on systems or weapons that we cannot discuss in this open 
forum?
    General Brown. That is correct, and I would be more than 
happy to come back in a classified forum to share some of those 
details.
    Senator Cotton. I know what they are. You do not have to 
come back to me.
    I want to make a point, though, here, that I think every 
system the Air Force hopes to retire is a system that flies 
openly, that we know about, that is in their local communities, 
and that can cause some political friction with Congress. Some 
of things we have talked about, we all know about and talk 
about openly, like the F-35 or the B-21, but some of them we 
can not, and that is hard for Senators and Congressmen to 
explain to our voters back home sometimes, especially if 
certain states or districts are going to lose an aircraft. I 
just think that we need to be mindful that there is a lot the 
Air Force needs to do in its classified setting, and that we 
may not always be able to explain that publicly, but the 
American people should keep that in mind, that you are doing a 
lot of work behind the scenes to keep this country safe as 
well.
    General Brown, the Air Force is heavily invested in both 
the B-21 and the Long-Range Standoff weapon. Do you agree that 
both of these programs are required in their own right but also 
as a supportive and complementary system to each other?
    General Brown. I do, very much so.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. Thank you. General Raymond, my time 
is almost up. I would like to discuss with you, at some point, 
the circumstances with Lieutenant Colonel Matt Lohmeier's 
relief out in the 11th Space Warning Squadron, if you will 
follow up with my office so we could have a conversation.
    Secretary Roth, I think you probably will not be appearing 
before the Committee anymore any time soon, at least as one of 
the longest-serving officials in the Department of Defense. I 
want to thank you for many decades of service to our country, 
and should you come back as an expert in the private sector at 
some point in the future, I do not want to hear what we always 
hear from Bob Gates when we bring him back, which is--he is 
telling the biggest lie in Washington--"It is a pleasure to be 
back in front of the Committee.''
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cotton. But thank you very much for many, many 
years of dedicated service at the Department of Defense.
    Mr. Roth. Thank you, Senator, for your kind words.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Now we have 
restored communication with Senator Gillibrand. Let me 
recognize her for the remaining minutes of her questioning.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, Secretary 
Roth, I just wanted to conclude the point I was making, that 
this idea of a bright line begins to restore two concerns we 
have with the military justice system: bias against survivors 
of sexual assault and bias against black and brown 
servicemembers, for both plaintiffs' rights and defendants' 
rights, and to mirror the reforms of our allies, that they have 
done over the last 40 years.
    So I wanted to know what your take on this was, whether you 
have looked at this data in detail, what you think the current 
status of affairs is with regard to the Air Force, and what you 
hope to accomplish.
    Mr. Roth. Yes. Obviously we have looked at it and we have 
discussed it, and we are aware of the legislation that is 
working its way through the Senate. We are also aware of 
legislation in the House, and I think, as you are aware, we 
have an Independent Review Commission inside the Pentagon who 
is also coming up with a series of recommendations. Our 
commitment to all of you is we will work with you. We have some 
concerns, in terms of some of the breadth of what is being 
addressed, and we also have some process concerns.
    But we agree there is a problem there. We need to fix it. 
What we are doing today is not working, and so we will work 
with everybody to find a way forward here, and arrive at what 
is best for the airmen and the guardians in the force.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Secretary Roth and General 
Raymond, you did address this issue of the Space National 
Guard, and you discussed it already today, but I wanted to know 
what your perspective is on that and what you hope to create 
with a reserve component, and whether you think that might be 
able to address some of our recruiting challenges and our 
retention challenges for that best talent in the country.
    Mr. Roth. Yes. Perhaps I should defer to the Space Chief. 
But from my perspective, there are two elements to that. There 
are the reserves and then there is the National Guard, and 
there is some nuanced differences in how we approach that. But 
I think with the Space Force we have a unique opportunity here 
for a new Space Force, a relatively small Space Force, to do 
things that are innovative and creative, that will move us 
forward, and might provide us kind of a pilot for what we could 
do with a larger force as well.
    General Raymond. Ma'am, it is a centerpiece to our human 
capital strategy. I think it will help enable exactly the 
things that you highlighted. I would welcome the opportunity, 
since the red light is on, to come discuss this with you in 
great detail. I am excited about where we have landed on this, 
and I think it is going to be very beneficial to our service 
and to the Guard and reserves as well.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Let me 
recognize Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and gentlemen, thank 
you for appearing in front of the Committee today. We certainly 
appreciate your great service to our Nation.
    I would like to start, obviously we have addressed the 
issue of operating in a budgetary environment that is very 
constrained, and with that comes certain challenges. But 
through those challenges I think it is up to us to find some 
opportunity.
    Secretary Roth, Congress had granted DOD middle-tier 
acquisition authority, the 804 authorities, to save some time 
and money on acquisition programs. As I understand it, this 
particular authority is being used at least in the B-52 engine 
program.
    So could we hear from you a little bit about some of the 
lessons learned, if that is effective, how that program is 
working with the use of the 804 authorities?
    Mr. Roth. Well, for us, I mean, the criticism of DOD 
acquisition, Air Force acquisition, specifically is that it is 
too bureaucratic, it is too slow, it is not agile enough, all 
those kinds of things. We look at the mid-tier acquisition 
initiative, Section 804, as an opportunity to be more agile, to 
be quicker, to be more responsive, more dependence on 
prototyping, more dependence on tailoring acquisition to 
individual programs, more emphasis on delegating management of 
programs down to the lowest level possible, rather than trying 
to run everything from the Pentagon.
    We are actually very interested and excited about what that 
could bring to the table across the board, and so we have, I 
guess, for lack of a better word, bought in across the board in 
terms of doing that.
    So the B-52 re-engining program is an example. We plan to 
use it, for example, for the A-10 re-winging program. For two 
major programs, two or three major programs that are in our 
modernization program. The Next Generation Air Dominance 
program, the Ground-Based Strategic Deterrent program, and the 
B-21 are all examples where we are using that kind of an 
approach married up with digital engineering, the digital 
trinity, in terms of open systems architecture and agile 
software, and the like.
    Going along with that is some rigorous metrics that have to 
be put in place. Just because we are going fast does not mean 
we should not have any discipline and we should not be watching 
these. But it also offers us opportunities to shift gears and 
go in a different direction if what we are doing is not 
working.
    Senator Ernst. No, that is fantastic, and I appreciate 
that. My next question was going to be, can you give other 
examples where this is working, and so thank you for laying 
that out for us. Again, I think it is important that we 
understand, operating in this type of environment, that we need 
to find other ways of doing business, not to drop the standard 
but simply to find ways where we can save time and hopefully 
some dollars.
    General Brown, I want to thank you again for traveling to 
Minot and Offutt, as Senator Fischer had stated. It was a 
phenomenal trip for many of us to witness our two branches of 
the nuclear triad. But I would like to address the National 
Guard for just a moment.
    The President and the Secretary of Defense have both raised 
some alarm about the rising challenges that we see from some of 
our near-peer adversaries, primarily China and Russia, and, of 
course, a lot of dispersed terrorist threats around the globe. 
We have really been stretching our force to meet those 
challenges, and the Air Guard has seen its busiest year since 
World War II. The demand signal continues to increase, and the 
Air Guard is mobilizing with increasing frequency, both at 
home, domestically in the United States, as well as abroad.
    The President's Budget does slash the Air National Guard 
training and component budgets, along with cuts to paid drill 
and individual training days, with the expectation that 
contingency mobilizations are on the path to pre-9/11 levels. 
What evidence do you have that would indicate the Air National 
Guard's usage reductions will go to pre-9/11 levels?
    General Brown. One of the things that we are going doing 
inside the United States Air Force is our force generation 
model, new force generation model that actually can better 
predict how we are going to actually deploy our forces, and at 
the same time put some discipline about how we execute. The Air 
Force and the Air Guard gets called on a lot. We have a lot of 
flexibility, as I said in my opening statement, to do air 
power, any time they work, and because of that we get called on 
quite often.
    One of the things we are working with, both on the Active 
but also with the Reserve components, is to ensure we lay out a 
more disciplined process of how we actually execute and 
contribute that air power to support our combatant commanders. 
That will give us a more predictable tempo that gets to pre-9/
11 levels, as well as the ability to train and maintain a level 
of readiness.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. I appreciate that, and should we not 
return to this pre-9/11 op-tempo level then we certainly need 
to know that. We want to make sure that are supporting those 
reserve and National Guard forces.
    So again, gentlemen, thank you so much for your time and 
your commitment to our great United States. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Senator Tillis, if 
you are ready, you are recognized.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Chairman Reed. Thank you, 
gentlemen, for being here, and Secretary Roth, I want to 
associate myself with my colleague, Senator Cotton, on your 
service and wish you the best.
    I know you all are working in an environment where if we 
could wave a wand and give you all the money to fund the 
unfunded priority list and move some others up that you would 
welcome it, but you are not working in that environment right 
now. I know a couple of my colleagues talked about the KC-46A 
and the problems that we are continuing to have with the boom 
system. So I want to talk a little bit about the operational 
impact.
    I know you are trying to balance some of the cost savings 
and deployment of future systems against meeting your mission, 
but just going down this list, if you have this information, 
how many KC-46A air-to-air refueling missions are being sourced 
outside the contiguous United States (OCONUS)?
    General Brown. I do not have an exact number for you, 
Senator, but we can get that for you. But we are using the KC-
46 on a day-to-day basis to support particularly our training 
missions, to refuel, to get our pilots their currency and our 
brand-new pilots up to speed on their refueling.
    Senator Tillis. I have got a series of questions that you 
can maybe report back for the record, a similar question for 
the KC-10 air-to-air refueling mission.
    One of the concerns that I have, I think it was the Air 
Force and TRANSCOM had previously stated that more than 25,000 
hours of air refueling missions are not being supported 
annually, with the KC-46 not being fully operational. So we 
will submit a series of questions on that, because we just want 
to get it right. I am not here to preserve an old platform if 
you have full confidence in the future one, but the gap is what 
I am concerned about and the mission requirements, and 
potentially the training impacts, by not being able to train 
the way that they would fight, based on current capabilities.
    General Raymond, I think at one point, I know we have 
talked about, in the space domain, the need for identification 
and attribution activities of our adversaries. I think at one 
point you also mentioned the concept of the need to punch back 
or retribution. You have got 2.4 percent of the total DOD 
budget. Number one, is retribution a part of your planning 
process, and number two, how do you manage that with a 
relatively small percentage of the overall budget?
    General Raymond. Thank you for the question. First of all, 
in this budget we invest in our ability to characterize, as you 
mentioned in your question. We invest in what we call space 
domain awareness, to have an understanding of what is going on 
in that domain and to be able to characterize it. Just like any 
other warfighting commander, the U.S. Space Command Commander 
must have an opportunity to have the ability to understand what 
is going on in that domain.
    The second big area is, he has to have the ability to 
command and control, so we are focusing on commanding and 
controlling as well.
    Where we are really focusing on in this budget is four big 
priorities. One is you have to be able to defend what you have. 
Two, we have to shift. We have to modernize to a more 
defendable architecture. Three, you have to develop the ability 
to impose costs, warfighting capability. Fourth, you have to 
look at what other new missions should go to space. We are 
really working to balance all four of those priorities. I think 
space is central to our ability to deter, and that space can 
help amplify the deterrence messaging and change the deterrence 
calculus of an adversary, in both denying benefits and imposing 
costs, and that is what we are balancing.
    Senator Tillis. I do not know whose lane this is in. I 
could assume maybe several different agencies. But we have had 
reports about the amount of space debris or space junk that we 
had out there. We had a report about a month ago of the 
International Space Station (ISS) being hit. Is that a part of 
your planning process, and is there budget allocated for that 
purpose?
    General Raymond. Yes, sir. We act as the space traffic 
control for the world, the United States does. We catalog or 
track about 30,000 objects. We provide all the conjunction 
assessment, if you will, warning if two things are going to 
collide, and then U.S. Space Command does all that notification 
to keep things from hitting the ISS and other satellites. That 
is becoming a full-time job, because of the increased 
congestion that is going on and the increased number of objects 
that are launching into space.
    Space domain awareness is critical to the warfighter. Space 
traffic control or space traffic management is something that 
needs to be shifted to another organization to free up U.S. 
Space Command and our operators that operate all those systems 
and doing the critical space domain awareness work that they 
need to do for our national security.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. Secretary Roth, I am kind of 
curious of your perspective. Senator Gillibrand asked some 
questions about the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) 
proposals that are coming through. There are some on military 
sexual assault but there is a larger proposal that would 
dramatically change the shift out of the command. Have you 
reviewed the commission report? I am saying this to everybody 
who is coming here that is part of the DOD, we need your 
feedback soon. We are about a month away from doing an NDAA 
markup that could have a sweeping change that may have some 
operational challenges and others.
    I am over time but I would like to just send a message to 
Secretary Austin and all of the leadership, who I understand is 
in the process of vetting it. We need your feedback pretty 
quickly or it will not weigh into the decisions we are going to 
be making about a month from now. So I will just leave that as 
a statement rather than expect you to respond.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Let me recognize 
Senator Cramer, please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to all 
of you for being here. Since Senator Tillis just ended with 
that, let me just add my voice to the same admonition.
    As you might imagine, General Brown, thank you for being 
here and thank you for going to Minot, I listened very 
attentively to your answers to Senator Reed about the 
retirement of Global Hawk 30's and the waiver. But I also 
noticed that in the modernization plan presented to the House 
Armed Services Committee, the Block 40 now is being slated for 
retirement beginning in 2025. Do we now consider the Block 40 a 
sunset system?
    General Brown. Not at the moment, Senator, and part of our 
process as well is we want to make sure we have a good 
transition. As we build the plan and as we have had a chance to 
talk about it, we look at the classified system we are bringing 
on. What I do not want to do is actually leave a gap. So it is 
balance between our planning factors for the Block 40 and the 
classified system we are going to bring on, to make sure that 
we have a smooth transition going forward.
    Senator Cramer. I have appreciated your great attention to 
the details of that with me.
    Secretary Roth, the Office of t he Secretary of Defense 
(OSD) reported that the Air Force's budget is $212.8 billion. 
How much of that $212.8 billion does the Secretary of the Air 
Force actually control?
    Mr. Roth. $174 billion. $39 billion is what has been 
referred to frequently as the pass-through.
    Senator Cramer. Can we do something about a more 
transparent budgeting system that does not give this view that 
the Air Force is getting a whole bunch of money that they 
really do not control?
    Mr. Roth. Yeah. We are actually working with the Office of 
the Secretary of Defense to see if there are some things that 
could be done. There are classified reasons why that exists, 
and so we need to make sure that we do not uncover things that 
ought not be uncovered. But we are working with our colleagues 
on the Secretary of Defense's staff to see if there are some 
ways to do that.
    I will say, when we come out with the budget and we do our 
budget briefings, come brief you and others here on the 
oversight committees, we immediately identify what we call the 
``blue budget,'' which is the $174 billion, and all our 
conversations from that day on is about the $174 billion.
    But I take your point, and we are, in fact, discussing what 
is in the art of the doable with the Office of the Secretary of 
Defense.
    Senator Cramer. Well, and I think your answering that 
question that way, in this forum, is part of the process, so I 
thank you for that.
    General Raymond, I really appreciate all the efforts that 
you have put in, in this last year and a half, really from day 
one, in how to involve universities in providing not only 
technological assistance but obviously a well-educated and 
hopefully prepared workforce, in many cases, for you to 
succeed. I was really happen to see that University of North 
Dakota faculty made a recent visit to Cavalier, to the radar 
station, and if Molly does not get you ND Today, she can have 
my copy to read all about it. It was very cool, and I really 
appreciate it.
    But now that you have had these 18 months, do you think 
that Space Force's outreach and involvement with universities 
is where it needs to be, and what can we do to strengthen you 
in that regard?
    General Raymond. Yes, sir, and I think it is where it needs 
to be. We have developed a University Partnership Program. It 
is focused on doing research together, developing people 
together, recruiting talent together. This first year we are 
going to have universities that are part of that University 
Partnership Program, and we look to expand that in the future. 
I think it is going to provide us great advantage, and we 
appreciate very much the University of North Dakota's 
partnership with us.
    Senator Cramer. Well, and as always, let us know how we can 
be helpful.
    General Brown, I do have some concerns about the cuts in 
the fiscal year 2022 funding for the MH-139, and it is slated 
to replace, of course, our very aging UH-1 helicopters in 
Minot. I am told the delay is because of a delay in FAA 
certification. But unless you think the aircraft is not going 
to achieve its certification, why would we stop paying for it 
and building it, because we have seen other aircraft that have 
had those same FAA delays but did not have a pause in 
production. So I am kind of concerned about that. Is it really 
necessary? I do not know if you have ever flown in a UH-1 in 
Minot in the winter, but it is very unpleasant, and we would 
like to be able to keep that on track.
    So do you have an explanation, other than the Federal 
Aviation Administration (FAA) certification?
    General Brown. Well, it is FAA certification, and the 
aircraft is a commercially-derived platform that we are putting 
military equipment on, which drives the additional 
certification. So we ran into an issue in part of the testing. 
So we are continuing testing on other parts of the aircraft 
besides the defensive system, that was causing some issues.
    What we want to do is ensure we aligned our money with the 
delivery. The delivery delay is, I believe, just several 
months, is what we expect going forward. So we want to keep our 
focus on it, and we want to make sure that, as you said, flying 
a UH-1 in Minot in the winter is probably not what we want to 
continue to do, which is why we want to get the MH-139 on 
track.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you. Thank you all again for your 
service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer. Now let me 
recognize Senator Warren, via Webex, please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you all 
for being here today.
    General Brown, I had the opportunity to discuss the 
strategic basing process at Mr. Kendall's nomination hearing, 
and I would like to be able to do the same with you this 
morning. This is the formal process the Air Force uses to 
decide where to station new aircraft, like the F-35 or the KC-
46.
    The Air Force has gone to admirable lengths to ensure that 
when it is choosing installations for these aircraft issues 
like the quality of education available near a base, and 
licensure reciprocity are a big part of the consideration. This 
is, of course, important because the quality of schools 
available for their children and the ability of spouses to 
obtain jobs and sustain careers are critical issues that 
impacted servicemembers' quality of life.
    So, General, can you commit to ensuring that the quality of 
education and licensing reciprocity are indeed factors in the 
strategic basing process?
    General Brown. Yes, Senator, they are.
    Senator Warren. Good. I just want to hear that. You know, 
these issues are part of base selection criteria for a reason, 
and they matter a lot to the servicemembers who do so much for 
our country.
    One thing that is not formally considered during part of 
the process is the effects of climate change and extreme 
weather. A 2019 Pentagon analysis found that of all the 
services, the Air Force's base infrastructure is most at risk 
for climate change threats, such as recurrent flooding, 
drought, desertification, wildfires, and thawing permafrost.
    Do you think it is worth making that another factor in the 
strategic basing decision-making process?
    General Brown. One of the areas we do look at is 
installation resiliency and how we take a look at not only the 
location but its capability and what kind of things we would 
have to do to make sure that that base or that location will be 
operationally relevant, as well as to ensure it can support the 
mission. As we look at that, we want to make sure that we do 
not put ourselves in a situation selecting a location that is 
going to be impacted by extreme weather or other things and the 
base locations are not well prepared.
    Senator Warren. So just to make sure I am understanding, 
you are saying yes, that we should take into account the 
climate change threat and the impact it could have on military 
operations.
    General Brown. That is one of the factors we do look at, 
the location, but we also look at the operational mission, and 
as you mentioned earlier also the education, the community, 
spousal licensure as well.
    Senator Warren. As one of the conditions. That is what I 
care about, and while we are on the subject of climate change, 
there is no way to address the climate crisis without 
confronting DOD's role as the largest consumer of fossil fuel 
on the planet, and the Air Force is obviously a big contributor 
to this, given the number of aircraft it flies.
    General Brown, what is the Air Force's progress, 
researching and developing new engine technologies that will 
decrease your dependency on fossil fuel and reduce emissions 
without sacrificing capability?
    General Brown. Well, one of the things we talked about a 
little earlier today is the re-engining of the B-52, and that 
is one area that is going to save us about 30 percent of its 
fuel consumption from what it does today. The other aspect that 
we also take a look at is advancing technology with our 
simulators, the ability to do some of our training in 
simulators, particularly from some of our more complicated and 
high-end things that we do not want our adversaries to see and 
be able to take those into a simulation environment, which then 
saves us on fuel. So it is a balance of those as well as the 
technology, engine technology, we look at as well.
    Senator Warren. Okay, and what I am hearing you say is 
about reducing consumption, which I very much appreciate. But I 
hope that you are prioritizing research and development as well 
in the engine technology and how to reduce reliance on carbon-
based fuels. That will help make sure that the Air Force 
remains flexible and agile for the future and reduce dependency 
on potentially vulnerable fossil fuel supply chains.
    So I look forward to working with you and the incoming 
Secretary to help make this technology a reality.
    General Brown. Well, thank you, Senator. One thing I would 
highlight is our Agility Prime that we have been using to--it 
has been called a flying car, but that uses mostly electrical 
power, and it is an aspect we are also taking a look at of how 
we do that for logistics and other opportunities versus using 
the fossil fuels.
    Senator Warren. Well, that is the whole point. Let's invest 
in that research and development (R&D) and get this up and 
running. Our entire world is depending on it.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Let me now 
recognize Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. I thank each of you for 
your service. I want to thank each of you for the benefit of 
the men and women who defend the freedom of this country.
    First, can you all agree that it looks like we are facing 
increased threats around the world? You all would say that, 
wouldn't you?
    General Brown. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Scott. We would all agree that Communist China is 
investing in building up their military, with one goal, is to 
actually compete with us.
    General Brown. Yes.
    Senator Scott. As they build their economy, do you see any 
reason that they are going to slow down their investments?
    General Brown. I don't.
    Senator Scott. So given knowing what Communist China is 
doing, do you all believe that the Air Force today is prepared 
to defend this country but also to help our allies, like 
Taiwan?
    General Brown. I believe we are prepared but I still think, 
as you just described, as the Chinese advance their capability, 
the United States Air Force needs to do the same, which is why 
I particularly am pushing on being able to modernize our 
capability to make sure that we are a credible deterrent, so 
you do not have a conflict in the Indo-Pacific.
    Senator Scott. So I think, both for General Brown and Mr. 
Roth, as we have had these hearings, a lot of people on our 
Committee have expressed a lot of concern about the President's 
defense budget, his proposed defense budget, especially when 
you look at it as compared to other agencies, how he wants to 
spend the money.
    So we have had a pretty good defense budget for the last 
few years, but do you really believe that this budget is going 
to give you the resources you need to be able to deter the 
actions of China, Russia, and other threats around the world?
    Mr. Roth. The short answer is yes, we are challenged. We 
need to get on with it, and in particular that is why we are 
emphasizing investing in future technologies. We need to take 
some reasonable risks today in order to make sure that we keep 
pace with the Chinese. Our concern is the pace in which they 
are modernizing. They seem to be quicker than we are. They have 
amped up their spending, and so as a number of us have said, we 
need to move out smartly. We need to accelerate. We need to buy 
things smarter, quicker, and more agile. So the answer is I 
think this budget provides a reasonable risk going forward, but 
we need to keep on that pace.
    Senator Scott. General Brown?
    General Brown. I mean, I feel the same way the Secretary 
just described. That is exactly why I wrote ``Accelerate Change 
or Lose,'' is if we do not pick up our pace, there is the 
distinct possibility of losing, and losing our advantage, at 
the least. It is important that we take a hard look at the 
budget. You know, ideally it puts pressure on us, but we have 
got to be smarter within the budget we do have, regardless of 
what the number might be.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. General Raymond, does the 
President's budget allow you to develop and deploy the force 
you need, because clearly the threats in space are not 
decreasing. They are clearly increasing.
    General Raymond. Yes, sir. The President's budget does, and 
this budget reflects a $2 billion increase in national security 
space, about $1 billion of that is shifting existing 
capabilities and resources from services into the Space Force, 
and then about $1 billion in new growth, focused on protecting 
and defending. I am very comfortable that I can protect and 
defend today, but that superiority gap is shrinking fast. One 
of the reasons why we established the Space Force was to move 
out at speed, drive unity of effort, reduce costs, and be able 
to stay ahead of that threat, and that is our main focus.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Do you all believe that we are 
ahead of the Russians and the Chinese in developing hypersonic 
weapons?
    General Brown. Thank you. I have asked the same question of 
our intel, and the aspect, I believe, is that we are--there are 
areas that we are ahead, but their testing is probably a little 
more advanced in numbers than we are. So this is again, this is 
an area that I am focused on. As a matter of fact, in this 
budget we have money to buy 12 hypersonic munitions by the end 
of fiscal year 2022. So we have got to continue to put pressure 
on ourselves to provide that capability as well.
    Senator Scott. Do you believe that is enough?
    General Brown. Well, I want to balance it against the 
threat, and so at the rate that I see that our adversary is 
going, we need to make sure that we continue to build out our 
capability. But it doesn't necessarily have to be symmetric. I 
think there are aspects of using asymmetric capability as well. 
But having some hypersonic capability to go against our 
adversaries will be important.
    Senator Scott. Do you think the American public realizes 
the threat of Communist China and what their goals are?
    General Brown. I do not. I would say, just based on my time 
as the Pacific Air Force Commander, and how much I learned in 
the 2 years I was out there, and where I sit today, the 
advancing capability of the Chinese is something that we all 
should be thinking about.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Let me now 
recognize, via Webex, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking 
Member Inhofe, for holding this hearing. I would also like to 
thank the witnesses for their service, and, of course, for 
being here.
    Today I would like to talk a little bit about, of course, 
Nevada, and Nevada's Air National Guard's 152nd Airlift Wing in 
Reno. It flies legacy C-130's in some of the hottest 
temperatures. You can just look at the weather report today. I 
do not have to tell you what is happening all out on the West 
Coast. They fly in the highest elevations, the most challenging 
mountainous environments of any C-130 unit. Integral to their 
mission is flying the Modular Airborne Firefighting System, the 
MAFS. They supply those in support of the U.S. Forest Service. 
We know wildfire season is just upon us.
    Upgrading the Nevada Air National Guard C-130 H fleet with 
C-130J's would have a substantial impact on their readiness and 
firefighting capabilities, in Nevada and the western United 
States, where every year we are plagued by devastating fires.
    I was therefore discouraged that the Air Force was not 
considering MAFS when evaluating base candidates for the C-
130J, and even more disappointed when Reno was not selected. 
Ensuring that the Air National Guard is ready to assist and 
respond to these emergencies, it should be a priority for the 
Air Force as you consider where to base more capable aircraft.
    So Acting Secretary Roth, can you explain to me this 
decision not to consider MAFS when conducting your base 
evaluation, particularly in the West Coast where more fires, 
our open terrain, our longer distances to travel, we have in 
any other region in the Lower 48?
    Mr. Roth. Senator, we will take a look at that. I mean, 
your point is well taken. It is not part of our core criteria 
that we use in selecting the base. My commitment to you is we 
will work with you and see if there are ways that we can give 
that some consideration going forward.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that. General Brown, 
can I get a commitment that MAFS will be part of the basing 
criteria in the future rounds of C-130J recapitalization? 
Again, all I have to do is point to weather reports today 
around the West Coast and around the country to see what is 
happening, and then understanding what Nevada does and what we 
are responsible for, we really need your commitment that Reno 
will be considered, given its need, its mission, its 
capabilities, and existing infrastructure to host the aircraft.
    General Brown. Senator, you have my commitment to have that 
considered as one of the criteria as we look at forward basing 
decisions.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I would like again, General 
Brown, to talk to you a little bit about the Air Force and its 
Nevada Test and Training Range (NTTR), the land withdrawal that 
you have requested for Nevada Test and Training Range. You 
requested a 300,000-acre expansion of the Nevada Test and 
Training Range within the Desert National Wildlife Refuge in 
order to modernize the range. You also asked for primary 
jurisdiction over the 800,000 acres of land currently shared 
with the refuge. The fiscal year 2021 NDAA renewed your 
existing withdrawal of almost 3 million acres of public land, 
and Senator Cortez Masto and I offered mandates on 
intergovernmental executive committees between the Air Force, 
U.S. Fish and Wildlife, and other allies and partners, to be 
sure that we are taking everything into consideration.
    So, General Brown, as the Air Force pursues modernization 
of the range, can you commit to setting up our 
intergovernmental committees and can you commit to exchanging 
information with all the collaborating state, local, and Tribal 
governments, along with our relevant environmental stakeholders 
on any proposals to withdraw Nevada's public lands?
    General Brown. Senator, you have my commitment, and I will 
tell you, since our last conversation about a month ago we have 
already had some of the interagency committee meetings to work 
towards the intergovernmental executive committee. That first 
needs to occur here in the next couple of months. But I am 
committed to work with you and other entities to work on the 
Nevada Test and Training Range, to ensure we are paying 
attention to all the equities of all the interested parties.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that. I will just 
make a note that up in northern Nevada, in Fallon, the Navy has 
already scheduled those meetings, and so I hope it would be 
sooner than the next few months, as soon as possible.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Let me now 
recognize Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I appreciate 
the great work that all the panelists are doing.
    You know, I listen to some of my colleagues, and some of my 
Democratic colleagues continue to make this narrative that 
climate change is somehow an issue that is a bigger threat than 
China or Russia, that the military has something to do with.
    Let me just ask, you mentioned basing locations in your 
exchange with Senator Warren. General Brown, you mentioned some 
climate change. Do you actually take into account strategic 
location for basing locations as well?
    General Brown. Senator, we do.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. Is that a pretty high priority?
    General Brown. Strategic location and operational mission 
requirements are high on the list, and it carries most of the 
weight in our decision-making for strategic basing.
    Senator Sullivan. That is what I would assume.
    Do you remember the father of the Air Force, Billy 
Mitchell? Do you remember what he called the most strategic 
place in the world?
    General Brown. I do, and you remind me often. It is Alaska.
    Senator Sullivan. Oh, okay. I am just checking. So that is 
pretty strategic. Just checking.
    If DOD stopped using any fossil fuels, like today, forever, 
how much do you think that would reduce global greenhouse gas 
emissions?
    I will just give you the answer. It would not.
    So your mission is to fight and win wars, kill people, yes? 
Sometimes we have to say that. So I think it is really 
important to just stay focused on lethality. A lot of times you 
are getting pushed to do climate change, trying to fix climate 
change. The Department of Defense is not going to fix climate 
change. So that is what most people believe. I just want you to 
hear it from Senators who care about the real mission of the 
Department of Defense, which is to fight and win our Nation's 
wars, not somehow be the lead agency fighting climate change. 
It is not your role. You are not capable of doing it. I know 
you get pressured from the other side to do it all the time, 
including the President, and I think it is nuts. So stay 
focused.
    Can I get your commitment to stay focused on your number 
one mission? What is your number one mission?
    General Brown. The number one mission for the Air Force is 
to fly, fight, and win, provide air power, anytime, anywhere.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you, General. That is a 
great mission.
    Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex (JPARC), and Senator 
Rosen was just talking about the Nevada Testing Range. I, too, 
am very concerned about the reduction in the Department of 
Defense's budget. But as you know, prioritizing that kind of 
high-end training and fighting, particularly fifth-gen, remains 
important. Can I get your commitment to prioritize and 
accelerate the investments in JPARC and the Nevada Testing 
Range--I think JPARC is about ten times bigger--to achieve the 
Threat Matrix Level 4 capability that I know you are very 
interested in, even though you are starting to see declining 
budgets?
    General Brown. Senator, you do have my commitment, and as 
you described, JPARC and the Nevada Testing and Training Range 
are the two ranges we have for the United States Air Force that 
we are looking to get to Threat Level 4, and another six that 
would be Threat Level 3. We have a strategy to be able to do 
that for both the Nevada Testing and Training Range and the 
JPARC.
    Senator Sullivan. So I have a commitment--thank you on 
that--I have a commitment from the incoming Secretary, and I 
know we are going to do it together--you, me, and him--on the 
KC-46, the global basing decisions on our new tankers. You and 
I talked about this for over years.
    So can I get your commitment when he gets confirmed to work 
with me and this Committee just on the new strategy that the 
Air Force has put forward on that? It has been a moving target, 
as you know, but it is an important issue for me and the 
country?
    General Brown. Senator, you have my commitment.
    Senator Sullivan. What about the issue of the E-3? How are 
we looking at the replacement? You may have seen this big, big 
Russian exercise last fall where they actually had, I think it 
was either five or six Bear bomber runs in the Air Defense 
Identification Zone (ADIZ) of Alaska, where we had to go 
scramble six different sections of F-22's to go intercept these 
simultaneous incursions into our airspace by the Russians. It 
was unbelievable, the biggest one ever. As you know, there were 
no Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) up there. That 
was a really tough mission. Our great pilots in Alaska did it 
well, but they did it with no AWACS capability, which is tough.
    What are we looking at in terms of the AWACS replacement, 
and how quickly do you think we can get that going?
    General Brown. There are a couple of things we are looking 
at, reference the AWACS. One is some modernization aspects of 
the AWACS, at the same time looking at advanced technologies to 
do airborne moving target indication from other capabilities. 
That technology is not quite there, so we are going to have to 
take a look at some type of gap, and we are looking at a 
handful of platforms that may have that capability to bridge to 
the newer technology. That is not necessarily in this budget 
cycle but it is something that I am looking at, internal to the 
Air Force.
    Senator Sullivan. Is the E-7 one of those that you are 
looking at?
    General Brown. E-7 is one of those candidates. It is 
actually flown by the Royal Australian Air Force. The Royal Air 
Force from the U.K. is also purchasing. It is a capable 
platform. I have actually personally flown on it. So it is one 
of those that I am considering.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you, gentlemen, and, Mr. 
Chairman, I will have additional questions for the record.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Sullivan. Let 
me now recognize Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Sullivan 
was just speaking of lethality and fighting and winning, which 
I too find incredibly important. So, General Brown, I want to 
discuss, just for a minute here, one of the most lethal 
aircraft in your inventory, the A-10 Warthog. We have spoken 
before about my serious concerns with the Air Force's proposed 
retirement of more than 40 A-10 aircraft in this year's budget, 
and as you know, I feel it would be a mistake to retire these 
combat-tested, combat-proven aircraft when we do not have a 
viable replacement to effectively conduct close-air support for 
our troops.
    In addition to my disagreement with the Air Force's 
attempts to divest A-10's, I see some concerns with the plans 
to sustain the fleet the Air Force proposes to keep, and this 
is a real concern, because we all agree that A-10's are going 
to continue to support our warfighters into the 2030s.
    Last year, the Air Force budget request indicated a 
requirement for $100 million in fiscal year 2022, and $100 
million again in fiscal year 2023 to support the A-10 wing 
replacement program. Critical element, as we know, of 
sustaining the fleet. So I have to say I am concerned about the 
incredibly low amount of funding, just $44,000 budgeted for the 
A-10 wing replacement program in this year's request.
    So, General, why has the Air Force not followed through on 
using the money it requested in fiscal year 2021, that Congress 
appropriated for wing replacements last year, and is the Air 
Force seeking to reprogram fiscal year 2021 funds?
    General Brown. Senator, we are not going to reprogram 
fiscal year 2021 funds. We are fully committed to the rewing of 
the A-10's as it was laid out in the budget. We are able to 
execute that over multiple years. By the end of this fiscal 
year we should be about 50 percent done, and we are going to 
continue on the path to upgrade those wings, as laid out in the 
budget and as we committed to.
    Senator Kelly. Can you clarify the $44,000 request for A-10 
rewinging in this year's request?
    General Brown. I do not have those details with me here 
today, but I will get back to you with more information on it.
    Senator Kelly. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, General. I 
appreciate it.
    General Raymond, in the remaining time here, great to see 
you again, General. I would like to touch on the security of 
U.S. assets in space. You know, many Americans think of space 
distant place, but the ability for us to operate unhindered in 
space, it is a matter of national security. As Russia and China 
aggressively advance their space programs and develop 
capabilities that aim to disrupt or destroy United States space 
assets, it is critical that we are able to adapt to secure our 
systems and deter aggression. The Department's statement for 
this hearing affirms that both China and Russia have mobile 
ground-based laser systems and electronic warfare systems 
capable of jamming and blinding our satellite systems.
    General Raymond, in your estimation, how good is our 
current understanding of threats to our satellite systems and 
our space architecture?
    General Raymond. I think we have a really good 
understanding of the threats. They have been pretty visible. 
Both China and Russia have developed a full spectrum, the ones 
that you mentioned and also on-orbit, anti-satellite weapons, 
missiles that can launch from the ground and destroy 
satellites. There is a full spectrum out there. We have a good 
understanding of the threats. The work that we are now doing is 
to shift our architecture to a more defendable architecture, 
because the architecture that we have today was built for a 
different domain.
    Senator Kelly. Do you feel that our defense and 
intelligence communities are working well enough together on 
this issue?
    General Raymond. I do. In fact, one of the benefits of 
standing up the Space Force is that we are now going to stand 
up a National Space Intelligence Center that is going to be co-
located with the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, 
and that is going to sharpen the focus on foundational intel. 
We still have a lot of work to do on that, both foundational 
and operational, but I am very comfortable that the 
intelligence community is focused on this.
    The other thing that we have done, after establishing the 
Space Force, we became the 18th member of the Intelligence 
Community (IC), which also gives us a stronger seat at the 
table to get the intelligence requirements that we need.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you, General. I am convinced 
that the only way we are going to stay ahead of our near-peer 
adversaries is by innovation, and one of the domains that we 
are really good at is space, and we just have to continue to 
move forward, out-innovate our adversaries, but also make sure 
we can protect the assets that we have.
    General Raymond. I could not agree more. Thanks.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, General.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kelly. Let me 
now recognize Senator Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
to each of you for being here today.
    Being a Tennessean, I think you would each expect me to 
talk about Arnold Engineering and Development Complex, the 
AEDC, there in Tennessee. It really is the crown jewel of the 
Air Force testing infrastructure. You have got 68 wind tunnels 
there, you have got engine test cells that are there, arc 
heaters, space testing chambers. It is vital to the test work 
that has been mentioned here today. It is vital to hypersonics. 
The way we get ahead in hypersonics is we have testing.
    So, General Brown, when we are looking at these facilities 
we are very concerned about upkeep and about maintenance. The 
state of that infrastructure is posing a critical risk to 
continuing this testing mission for high-priority items like 
hypersonic development. So talk a little bit about the 
importance--what is the priority with you, where does it stand 
when it comes to risk of not modernizing this structure, how 
does this affect retention and recruiting, what are you looking 
at this year for preventive maintenance? Because whether it is 
some of our AV's or hypersonics, Arnold is an important 
component.
    General Brown. As you described, very important work that 
occurs there to advance our capability in hypersonics, and so 
the United States Air Force works with the OSD Test and 
Resource Management Center that helps drive the investment on 
places like Arnold, in particular. As the Air Force Chief of 
Staff, with our staff, is working very closely with them to 
outline the requirements to upkeep the capabilities there, not 
only for hypersonics but the future capabilities that might 
come our way as well.
    I think a key aspect of this is in order to retain that 
great capability, of the minds that work there, is we have got 
to have the right infrastructure and tools there. So it is the 
combination of that investment that helps us to be able to do 
that. I do not have details but I will be able to get you 
details.
    Senator Blackburn. Let me ask you about, because I think 
one element important to this is the ground test asset board. 
So speak to that a minute, and I would like to have you commit 
to work to stand up that asset board, because we need to make 
certain that all resources are available to maintain facilities 
like Arnold.
    General Brown. That ground asset test board is internal to 
the Air Force Test Center, and it is something that I will 
commit to look at how we might broaden that beyond just the 
Test Center but broader within the Air Force.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay, and also, the 2 percent Plant 
Replacement Value (PRV), reaching that and having budgets 
sufficient to reach that 2 percent, there is concern over that 
because your unfunded priority list is to the tune of $320 
million. So where are you on having sufficient budget to reach 
that?
    General Brown. The combination of the budget we have, plus 
the $320 million that we have in the unfunded priority list 
will get us to that 2 percent.
    Senator Blackburn. That does get you to the 2 percent.
    General Brown. Yes, ma'am, it does.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. Even though you are not 
reprogramming funds.
    General Brown. That is correct.
    Senator Blackburn. Okay. All right.
    General Raymond, we were pleased to see you make a trip to 
Vanderbilt University. We thank you for that. We do believe 
that the projects that are being done there in the partnership 
programs are vitally important. Involving the warfighter, the 
front-line warfighter is important. Having this collaboration 
with academia on cyber and electronics R&D we think is vital. 
My hope is that you are going to continue to keep these 
programs robust and work to recruit talent for these 
technologies.
    General Raymond. Absolutely. I agree. Not only did I visit 
Vanderbilt, I also visited Tennessee State. I also had the 
opportunity to talk to the Tennessee Science, Technology, 
Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM) Initiatives group. I think 
there are about 500 elementary school and high school teachers. 
It was a great visit. We are eager to partner on the University 
Partnership Program and research consortiums that we have had. 
In Vanderbilt, I was very impressed with what I saw.
    Senator Blackburn. As you are aware, if you visited with 
the STEM Consortium, we have not only our elementary schools 
and middle schools but also groups like Boy Scouts are now 
starting STEM Scouts and programs of that nature to encourage 
our young people to consider STEM, and certainly our military 
is a great opportunity for them to consider.
    General Raymond. Ma'am, after that visit I had a gentleman 
that worked in the studio where I did the session with the STEM 
Innovation Network. He just joined the Space Force. So we are 
excited to recruit, and we are excited to have him on the team.
    Senator Blackburn. There you go, and we are so pleased to 
have Space Force with the Huntsville present, which is in our 
region. I know that Senator Tuberville is going to talk with 
you about that. So thank you all so much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn. Senator 
Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks too to the 
witnesses. Thank you for being here. Thank you for your 
service.
    Mr. Secretary, if I could just start with you. Rosecrans 
Air National Guard Base in my home state is home to the 
Advanced Airlift Tactics Training Center, which offers training 
courses, not just to U.S. airlift units but also to our allies 
and partners, something I think not a lot of people know.
    Give me a sense of how you see the Center's work 
contributing to the Air Force's broader efforts to strengthen 
those relationships with allies and partners.
    Mr. Roth. As you noted, it does, in fact, make a 
significant contribution, and at this point we do not have any 
intent to change the current mission.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you for that. General 
Brown and General Raymond, let me shift now to our pacing 
theater and our pacing threat, which you have been getting a 
lot of questions on today, which I am glad to hear about.
    Secretary Austin and Deputy Secretary Hicks have both 
testified before this Committee that the United States has got 
to maintain its ability to deny a Chinese fait accompli against 
Taiwan. I am a broken record on this subject, and I am not 
going to disappoint here today. So do you agree with that 
testimony that we must maintain that ability to defeat the 
Chinese fait accompli? Go ahead, General Brown.
    General Brown. I do.
    Senator Hawley. Great. General Raymond?
    General Raymond. I do.
    Senator Hawley. General Brown, there are a few ways we can 
think about denying a fait accompli in a Taiwan scenario. Most 
of them involve sinking or disabling key elements of the 
Chinese fleet in a relatively short period of time. How would 
you envision the Air Force executing or supporting this kind of 
a sea denial mission?
    General Brown. Well, the first thing you have got to have 
in order to be able to execute the sea denial mission is a 
level of air superiority. So I think that is important that is 
the aspect of our Next-Generation Air Dominance fighter, so we 
can actually get our bombers in, because you have a defensive 
threat from China to get too close to where that maritime 
capability might be that you are trying to sink. To get our 
bombers in, and then also the ability to actually have the 
awareness of where things are, and that goes into joint, all-
domain command and control, and the Air Force's contribution to 
that is the Advanced Battle Management System. It is how we 
move the data around between not just internal to the Air Force 
but within our joint partners, to be able to do that. Then the 
last is actually having the weaponry to go with that, and so 
Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) is one of those. It is 
very focused on this particular mission set, but it is also 
working with the rest of the joint team as we bring that.
    Then the last piece of this is logistics. In order to 
maintain that campaign we have got to be able to do the 
logistics, and be able to do it under attack. So, it is 
connecting the Joint Force, generating the combat power, and 
being able to execute the logistics under attack in support of 
the complete joint team from the Air Force, supporting both our 
Navy friends and our allies and partners as well.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you for that. You 
mentioned LRASM. Let me ask you about it. The Air Force 
requested funding for just five LRASMs last year, if I am not 
mistaken. This year, I think zeroed out, so no LRASM request. 
Give me a sense of why this is. Why are we cutting funding for 
anti-ship missiles, given how important it is, as you just 
stated, for our sea denial capability?
    General Brown. Well, part of this is actually how we 
balance out not just sea denial but other capabilities that we 
have for missions, and hypersonics, the conversation we just 
had, is high on that list for us, to be able to do that. But we 
will continue to look at LRASM as we bring that on with other 
capabilities as well, for advanced weapons.
    Senator Hawley. Got it. Yes, I am concerned by the cuts 
there in what I think is a pretty key capability. You mentioned 
JADC2. Let me just ask you about that, General, while I have 
you. Can you describe the progress that has been made on the 
JADC2 over the last year and what your goals are for it, this 
coming year?
    General Brown. Sir, the JADC2 is more of the Joint Staff 
piece to drive between the services, the Air Force's Advanced 
Battle Management System. Over the course of the past couple of 
budget cycles we have been really focused on demonstrations and 
evaluations. We have gone through that part and now it is about 
delivering capability. The first step in that is a capability, 
one, to put that capability on the KC-46, to be able to connect 
with our fifth-gen capability and expand our node. Underlying 
that, though, is the digital infrastructure to move all that 
information I talked about just a minute or two ago. So that is 
important on how we do that.
    The last--and I will not say last, but one of the other 
areas is our collaboration with the other services, with the 
Army in their Project Convergence, the Navy on their Project 
Overmatch, and the dialogue we have had together. Because if we 
cannot move information between the services we will not be 
able to do the maritime scenario that you just described. So it 
is important that we work very closely together to be able to 
have that capability.
    Then I would also offer, with the Space Force, because a 
lot of that information moves through space. So I am very 
connected to General Raymond as well, to ensure we are able to 
make sure we are able to communicate and move information for 
decision-makers.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you. Let me ask you about, 
briefly here, in my remaining time, the modernization agenda 
that the Air Force has embarked upon, General. The 
modernization agenda is focused on the early to mid 2030s, but 
this Committee has heard testimony, repeatedly and recently, 
that a Chinese potential assault on Taiwan or other contingency 
could happen much sooner than that. It could happen as early as 
the late 2020s, 2027, for instance.
    Give us a sense of what the Air Force is doing to ensure 
that it is able to help on defeating that fait accompli 
scenario that we were talking about in the next 5 to 7 years, 
even as you pursue this necessary modernization that is going 
to take you out to 10 or 15 years from now.
    General Brown. Well, Senator, as I said in my opening 
statement, that transition needs to start today. If we do not 
start today, we will not be ready 5 to 6 years from now, or 10 
to 15 years from now. I lay out 10 to 15 years from now so we 
can actually have something to put a goal on, but we have got 
to make that transition, to provide that capability, and we 
have got to do it much faster. This is why the Middle Tier 
Acquisition authorities are so important to allow us to move 
much faster, in collaboration with Congress, this particular 
Congress, and with our industry partners, we have got to move 
faster. If things were to happen, to accelerate, we have got to 
be able to accelerate as well.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Thank you very much. Thank you, 
gentlemen, all of you, for your service. I will have a few 
additional questions for you, for the record.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. Let me recognize 
Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The great 
thing about being last is everybody has already asked you 
questions, so I just want to ask a couple of things.
    General Raymond, two things that I think that are most 
important in anything that we do is people and education. We 
talked today about you going around to universities and all 
that. I would like all three of you to maybe just chime in on 
this.
    Our biggest threat is going to be in space in the very, 
very near future, if it is not today. Do we need a Space 
Academy, where we can have specialized skills and training? I 
have spoken at every academy in our country, leadership and 
organization. I am very proud of them. I just hope that we 
are--you know, we have got great institutions in this country, 
but I think we need something maybe to just specialize with 
space.
    General Raymond. I think one of the things, as an 
independent service you have to develop your own people. On the 
officer side, we only bring in about 300 or so folks a year. I 
am very comfortable that the Air Force Academy is developing 
those people for us. In fact 2 years ago, before the Space 
Force stood up, we only got 30 cadets out of the Academy. The 
first year, last year, out of the Academy we received 86. This 
year, 118. So we are coming up on almost a half, a little less 
than half of our total population is coming from the Academy, 
and the talent that we are getting is really top-tier talent, 
including a Rhodes scholar.
    The Academy has a strong astro program, they have got a 
strong space program. I am very comfortable to that they are 
producing the officers that we need to come in the Space Force, 
and they are doing really good work.
    Senator Tuberville. Do you think we need something for 
contractors, future, not in military, for space?
    General Raymond. Yeah, I think, Senator, there is great 
excitement going around the country about space, and it is in 
all three sectors. You have NASA going back to the moon and 
then on to Mars. You have got commercial space sector that is 
really alive and well and flourishing, and then you have the 
national security space sector.
    What we are seeing, and what I am seeing as you go around 
to the schools is that there is an increased amount of folks 
that are applying for space-related STEM degrees, which is 
important. I think it is going to pay great dividends for our 
Nation. What we are trying to do with our University 
Partnership Program is partner with those folks and then 
attract them to come into the space program. I have talked to 
Administrator Nelson. I would really like to partner with them 
as well. I think there is great opportunity here for the youth 
of America.
    Senator Tuberville. You know, I am excited about going 
around to high schools, as I have all my life, and even the 
last few years in campaigning for this job I have got today, 
and we are seeing a lot of robotics courses being taught in 
high schools now. We are really advancing, and I think that is 
going to be the key to our survival, to be honest with you, is 
the education of our kids. Of course, they are all into 
computers and technology, and I just hope we are doing enough 
and planning on that for the future, because I do not want us 
to get to a point where we hit a wall and we do not have enough 
people trained for the future in space. But thank you for that.
    General Brown, I know one of your first acts as Chief was 
to honor General Charles McGee, and Alabama is proud to host 
the Red Tails and the 187th Fighter Wing down at Dannelly 
Field. In the very near future, within 2 years, we are getting 
the opportunity to have transitioned in 20 F-35's, and we are 
excited about that. I just want your commitment to stay with us 
on that, and we want to see red tails on all those planes. I 
was there the other day, and I think it is going to be huge for 
recruiting in the future of having 20 F-35's there. A lot of 
young kids are kind of recognized with the red tails, and we 
have done a good job of that. We just need to keep it going. So 
can I get your commitment to continue with the Red Tails and 
the things that we do at Dannelly Field?
    General Brown. Senator, you have my commitment, and great 
legacy from the Tuskegee Airmen there at Dannelly and there in 
Alabama with the Tuskegee Institute as well.
    Senator Tuberville. Well, thank you very much. Thank you 
for your service, guys. Thanks for being here today.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Now we are 
trying to connect with Senator Duckworth via Webex. There may 
be some technical difficulties, but Senator Duckworth, you are 
recognized.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I logged out 
and logged back in so it seems to be working now.
    Chairman Reed. Very good.
    Senator Duckworth. Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for 
being here today, and thank you for your service to our 
country.
    As the Air Force modernizes its platforms to meet the 
demand of future conflict, particularly the possibility of a 
contested logistics environment in the Indo-Pacific region, we 
must consider the evolution of our air mobility and other 
combat support functions, in addition to our combat 
capabilities. Bottom line, without combat-credible air mobility 
we do not have a combat-credible deterrent.
    General Brown, will you ensure that the Air Force addresses 
the gap in advanced air mobility capabilities suitable for 
distributed warfare in the Indo-Pacific, and when do you think 
the Air Force can deliver a plan for the future of air 
mobility, beyond the C-130, to Congress?
    General Brown. Senator, you do have my commitment, and this 
is an area we are looking at, particularly through the aspect 
of Agility Prime and other techniques to be able to logistics 
under attack. That planning process is in its very early stages 
and so I probably cannot commit to you today on when we would 
actually be able to present a plan to Congress. But what I 
would like to be able to do is continue to work with you and 
this Committee to work through a process to answer that 
particular question, not only in the capability but also the 
timeline of when we would be able to provide some more 
information on a study and some other techniques, and the 
technology to be able to look at how we do mobility, 
particularly in the Indo-Pacific.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I am going to take you up on 
that. Thank you very much. You know, modernization is critical, 
but it must be balanced against present-day readiness 
requirements that are necessary to respond to emerging crises.
    I am actually pretty alarmed that the Air Force plans to 
continue C-130 divestment from the Guard and reserve. It has 
not created a plan to replace the C-130 itself. Eliminating 
enduring platforms without even beginning to design their 
replacement I think is a huge gamble. Is it wise to wager our 
National Guard and reserves' operational capability and 
capacity and risk creating a huge gap that undermines our 
ability to respond to new emergencies? I mean, after all, over 
half the Air Force tactical and mobility airlift resides in the 
reserve components.
    I truly believe that C-130 divestiture will limit the Joint 
Force's ability to meet the challenges outlined in the 2018 
National Defense Strategy (NDS) and the Interim National 
Security Strategic Guidance, as well as the reserve components' 
ability to complete their domestic missions, which have only 
increased in recent years.
    That is why I fear that we must not divest the C-130 
aircraft in our reserve components without first ensuring that 
we retain the critical airlift capability and capacity that 
gives our commanders the operational flexibility to respond 
when called, both overseas and here at home. While I understand 
that the Air Force has difficult decisions to make in how it 
manages its budget, and I understand about the increasing costs 
of maintaining old aircraft, I flew the oldest Black Hawk in 
the entire Army inventory, the fourth off the production line, 
so I understand the challenges of that. I have, however, heard 
from my TAG [The Adjutant General] about how concerned he is 
that the Illinois National Guard will not be able to fulfill 
its duties to Illinois and to the country if there are further 
C-130 divestments without replacement platforms.
    During his confirmation hearing, Mr. Kendall, the 
President's nominee to lead the Air Force, committed to working 
with governors and adjutants general of states with reserve 
component C-130 wings to ensure that they can fulfill their 
domestic missions and the Air Force's divestment plans do not 
eliminate C-130 capacity that is needed to deliver the air 
mobility our Nation has come to rely upon.
    General Brown, will you make the same commitment as Mr. 
Kendall?
    General Brown. Senator, I will, and as a matter of fact, 
one of the areas that I am focused on is every time I travel to 
any one of the states, one of my goals is to either meet with 
or communicate, ahead or during the trip, with the TAGs for 
each of the states, to talk about where the Air Force is 
headed. So you do have my commitment.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. Another asset that is really 
important to our combat credibility are the KC-135's, and the 
Air Force plans to divest 18 KC-135's and 14 KC-10 tankers in 
fiscal year 2022 to support the KC-46 program. This budget 
significantly reduces aerial refueling capacity. Could you 
please outline the risks we are accepting in the short term, 
and is the KC-46 program appropriately funded to accelerate its 
fielding to close this gap?
    General Brown. Well, one thing I will tell you about the 
KC-46 is that it does have the capability to do a good majority 
of missions, to include air refueling, aeromedical, as well as 
cargo movement. What we are working very closely with the 
United States TRANSCOM on is an interim capability release to 
provide the KC-46 for day-to-day mission taskings that will 
allow for it to be able to support the retirement of our KC-
10's and KC-135's. I have had great conversations with General 
Lyons most recently as about 6 weeks ago on this very topic, 
and we are both on agreement that the path we have right now on 
the KC-46 versus the KC-135 and KC-10 retirements are suitable 
to support his requirements.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I am out of time but I would 
love to be updated on the Air Force's progress in fielding the 
KC-46 and to be provided early notification to myself, and to 
the Committee, actually, if any issues arise that may further 
delay the program or otherwise increase gaps in our overall 
aerial refueling capability, and we take this after the 
hearing. Thank you.
    General Brown. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth. Thank you very 
much. Gentlemen, again thank you for your testimony. Thank you 
for your dedicated service over many years. I also want to 
thank you for opening up your schedule for a possible closed 
session after this session, but I do not think there were any 
issues that have come up within the context of this hearing 
that cannot be resolved by an individual contact with the 
relevant Senator. Because of that we will not have a closed 
session.
    I thank you very much for your, again, service, and 
Secretary Roth, thank you. You have done a superb job, not only 
in this tenure as Acting Secretary but for years as a stalwart 
in the Department of Defense. Thank you very, very much, sir.
    General Raymond. Thank you very much, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Gentlemen, with that I will adjourn the 
hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 11:54 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                pease air national guard base ramp space
    1. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Roth and General Brown, in early May, 
the 157th Air Refueling Wing out of Pease Air National Guard Base in 
New Hampshire, responded to a short notice request to support the 
transfer of 12 Marine F/A-18s traveling to U.S. Central Command. The 
157th provided 6 KC-46s to refuel the F/A-18s en route and Pease 
provided ramp space for 6 F/A-18s that were forced to make an unplanned 
maintenance stop during the refueling. Not only is that an example of 
the outstanding work of the 157th and the importance of the KC-46 for 
real-world missions, but it also emphasizes the importance of Pease as 
a strategic location. Will you commit to working with me on a plan to 
invest in Pease's infrastructure to ensure it can continue to perform 
the missions needed to meet commanders' requirements?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. We recognize the importance of 
the 157th Air Refueling Wing and Pease Air National Guard Base in New 
Hampshire as a strategic location. Since 2010, the ANG has invested in 
excess of $138 million in the infrastructure of Pease, including $55 
million to ensure the installation is capable of supporting KC-46 
mission requirements. This includes facility construction, hangar 
upgrades, maintenance and storage space, aircraft hydrant refueling 
capabilities and significant ramp improvements. This effort continues 
as emerging mission requirements are identified and validated for 
future MILCON/SRM consideration. The DAF will continue to work with the 
ANG and the unit to support mission requirements, and will be happy to 
discuss our plans with you as appropriate.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie Hirono
                            small businesses
    2. Senator Hirono. Secretary Roth, by partnering with AFWERX, the 
Air Force has recently awarded Small Business Innovation Research 
(SBIR) contracts that include technology research and development 
projects ranging from artificial intelligence to supply chain security. 
These types of initiatives coupled with the Air Force's annual Tech 
Warrior Exercise help small businesses bring much needed technological 
advancements into the Department. How is the Air Force removing 
barriers to entry for small businesses to access both SBIR contracts 
and other small business initiatives?
    Secretary Roth. The Department of the Air Force established a new 
``Open Topic'' solicitation where any domestic small business may 
submit a concept it believes can benefit Air Force and/or Space Force 
missions.
    AFWERX has since contracted with 1,433 companies, greater than 75 
percent of which are new to the DAF SBIR/STTR program.
    AFWERX Spark sponsors collider events designed to educate industry 
and academia on DAF requirements and capabilities. Collider events 
remove barriers for small businesses through better understanding of 
DAF user requirements, informing refinement of technology proposals and 
accelerating solutions.

    3. Senator Hirono. Secretary Roth, what is the Air Force doing to 
overcome the dreaded ``valley of death,'' the gap between product's 
development and the product being funded as a program of record?
    Secretary Roth. The Department of the Air Force delivers technology 
to the warfighter through the AFRL Technology Transfer and Transition 
Office, innovation organizations such as AFWERX, and Vanguard programs, 
which are designed for rapid transition of remarkable new capabilities 
that hold promise for providing significant battlefield advantage.
    The Department of the Air Force employs prototyping and 
experimentation in rapid acquisition pathways to achieve smarter and 
faster programs, shorten the requirement process, and move capabilities 
to warfighters more quickly.
    The greatest limitation for programs exiting the valley of death is 
the lack of funds to continue programs. Early stage technology and 
prototyping is much cheaper than development and production.

    4. Senator Hirono. Secretary Roth, how can we get these advanced 
technologies brought into the Department of Defense (DOD) faster?
    Secretary Roth. The Department of the Air Force rebalanced the 
science and technology portfolio to emphasize a reduction in the time 
required to develop and deliver new transformational capabilities, 
while maintaining a strong enduring and enabling technology portfolio.
    DAF Vanguard programs partner technologists, operators, and 
acquisition professionals at project inception, and gain corporate 
commitment to mature and rapidly transition technology.
    AFWERX employs a partnership strategy with private sector companies 
to accelerate the technology development timeline and ensure commercial 
commitment.
    AFWERX launched the Prime program with the specific purpose of 
overcoming the ``Valley of Death'' in collaboration with commercial 
investors to accelerate emerging technologies. Agility Prime, the first 
of these programs, is accelerating electric vertical takeoff and 
landing aircraft development.
    The Department of the Air Force employs prototyping and 
experimentation to speed up the requirements and fielding process by 
enabling the understanding of how specific technologies can provide a 
competitive advantage, as well as to address the associated acquisition 
risks and costs.
    Despite these efforts, funding limitations are the greatest 
obstacle to transitioning technologies of interest. Early stage 
development is inexpensive--allowing the science and technology 
community to fund many more technologies than the DAF can afford to 
take into production and fielding.
                         delivery of the kc-46
    5. Senator Hirono. General Brown, in last year's National Defense 
Authorization Act, Congress set limits on the number of KC-135 and KC-
10 refueling aircraft the Air Force could retire over the next three 
years as a result of acquisition delays and capability limitations the 
new KC-46 replacement aircraft is still experiencing. Has the Air Force 
made any progress on speeding up the delivery of additional KC-46 
aircraft?
    General Brown. The KC-46A fixed price contract provides the 
Government with very limited visibility into Boeing's manufacturing 
processes. The recent impacts to Boeing's aircraft delivery schedule 
appear to come from the COVID pandemic and manufacturing quality 
assurance/control issues. The Air Force and the Defense Contract 
Management Agency are exploring available corrective options with our 
Federal Aviation Administration partners to help Boeing improve its 
rate of production and meet their delivery schedule. The Government 
retains the right to employ withholds or progress payment reductions if 
they deem that is the best mechanism to drive improvement in overall 
aircraft quality.

    6. Senator Hirono. General Brown, what is the timeline for 
correcting the KC-46's problem with refueling planes in different 
lighting conditions?
    General Brown. The Air Force is working with Boeing to resolve the 
problems with refueling planes in different lighting conditions as part 
of the Remote Vision System 2.0 effort. The Air Force expects the 
Remote Vision System 2.0 will be ready to begin fleet retrofit in 
fiscal year 2024.

    7. Senator Hirono. General Brown, your opening statement mentions 
the importance of divesting from the legacy KC-135 and KC-10 aircraft 
quickly because it ``hampers the fielding of the more capable KC-46''--
but how does that position square with the ongoing capability issues 
the newer KC-46 is still experiencing?
    General Brown. We continue to work closely with Boeing on the 
Remote Visual System 2.0 fix and feel confident they will have a 
retrofit solution in the fiscal year 2023/fiscal year 2024 timeframe.
    We have worked carefully with USTRANSCOM to ensure we can deliver 
the needed air refueling capacity while we develop the KC-46 enterprise 
and work through deficiencies in the platform.
    The KC-46 is currently providing operational and training missions 
throughout the world. It can already refuel several platforms, move 
cargo and conduct aeromedical evacuation missions with some 
restrictions. DAF is implementing a conditions-based approach to 
operationalize the KC-46 for USTRANSCOM use prior to full operational 
capability declaration.
                             pilot shortage
    8. Senator Hirono. General Brown, the Air Force has been 
experiencing significant shortfalls in both pilots and aircraft 
maintainers in recent years. What steps are you taking to address the 
pilot and aircraft maintainer shortage?
    General Brown. While the USAF is experiencing unprecedented high 
retention rates in both the Enlisted and Officer Corps, the aggregate 
success may mask areas where we have retention challenges like pilots 
and aircraft maintainers. In response to these continued challenges, we 
continue to offer targeted monetary incentives such as Selective 
Retention and Aviation Bonuses as well as non-monetary strategies 
focused on Quality of Life and Quality of Service.
    Focusing on pilots specifically, the Air Force strategy is twofold: 
1) sustainably produce at least 1,500 pilots per year; 2) improve long-
term retention of pilots through a combination of policies, incentives 
and actions. This strategy centers on increasing pilot production 
capacity to meet our annual production requirement of 1,500 pilots year 
after year allowing all three Air Components the necessary number of 
pilots to meet their line pilot demand. Sustaining this production 
level over ten years will restore Company Grade Officer health as well 
as line pilot inventory health. The Air Force could expand production 
faster but it would create unnecessary and possibly, unmanageable 
challenges with training, absorbing and maintaining the force. 
Production of at least 1,500 pilots per year balances our need to 
reduce the shortfall at a manageable pace.
    We expect we will produce between 1,500 and 1,600 pilots per year 
by fiscal year 23 through several key initiatives. These include: UPT 
2.5, Accelerated Path to Wings (a T-1 only path to wings), Helicopter 
Training Next (a Rotary Wing Only Path to Wings), Improving Contact 
Simulator Instructor manning and compensation, Remote Simulator 
Instruction and the use of Aviation Schools (Alternate Path to Wings) 
as well as credit for civilian flight experience (Civil Path to Wings).
    The USAF also instituted an aircraft maintenance retention strategy 
that has successfully contributed to the current 100 percent fill rate 
for our funded maintenance billets. This four-step retention strategy 
focuses on building and maintaining the right skill levels and 
specialties within its enlisted maintenance workforce. It focuses on 
cyclical evaluation of historical retention trends; on-going review and 
adjustments to retention goals by skill level and maintenance 
specialty; clear understanding of retention rates necessary to attain 
those goals; and establishment of metrics needed to track performance 
against those goals. Keeping maintenance manning and retention high 
relies on being able to coordinate timing for aircraft divestment with 
arrivals of new weapons system (F-35, KC-46, B-21, NGAD). Without the 
ability to repurpose our maintenance manning and retention levels will 
be put at risk again.

    9. Senator Hirono. General Brown, what efforts are you taking to 
recruit, retain, and remove barriers for a more diverse force, and in 
particular, what steps you are taking to diversify the pool of pilots 
serving in the Air Force?
    General Brown. Air Education and Training Command is responsible 
for recruiting the Air Force we need with an emphasis on Rated 
Diversity. Pilot retention, to include potential culture or bias 
problems impacting under-represented groups, is a focus area for the 
Air Force. The Service has leveraged a body of work that includes 
studies, advanced data analytics, and surveys to better understand all 
the factors impacting the quality of life and service for our pilots. 
The most recent studies (e.g., RAND 2018) have explored historic 
challenges in recruiting a diverse pilot force by focusing on 
understanding demographic differences in pilot training attrition. This 
study, coupled with additional advanced analysis, resulted in a re-
assessment of the Pilot Candidate Selection Model (PCSM). Specific 
actions targeted at improving pilot retention include decreasing 
administrative burdens for pilots within operational squadrons, 
broadening height range to allow for a larger pool of candidates 
(specifically women), developing gender-specific flight duty uniforms, 
and modernizing other dress and appearance rules.
                      missile warning and tracking
    10. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, the threat from North Korean 
ballistic missiles and the cutting edge hypersonic weapons that China 
and Russia are fielding is an ongoing concern, especially in Hawaii. 
The Space Force is collaborating with other DOD partners, including the 
Missile Defense Agency, on the Next Generation Overhead Persistent 
Infrared missile warning and tracking system--what can you tell me 
about your progress on this system?
    General Raymond. In the face of existing and emerging threats, 
notably China, the USSF must continue to adapt space systems to a more 
mission-capable and defendable architecture. The USSF continues to 
successfully work with the Missile Defense Agency and the Space 
Development Agency to plan for and deliver Overhead Persistent Infrared 
(OPIR) capabilities focused on advanced threats. In the interim, the 
USSF is designing and developing the next generation of strategically 
survivable space-based Missile Warning OPIR platforms. The Next-Gen 
OPIR Block 0 architecture will provide more sensitive and more 
resilient Missile Warning capabilities to maintain an advantage over 
our adversaries.
    The Next-Gen OPIR Block 0 program continues to make progress 
against an aggressive development schedule. Since initiation, the 
program has met all design milestones on time to support the 
warfighter's Initial Launch Capability requirement in fiscal year 2025. 
The ground system continues to develop the framework and applications 
required to operate the satellites, process the infrared data, and 
disseminate Missile Warning messages to National Command Authorities, 
the Joint Warfighter, and Allied nations.
    Finally, to better detect and track advanced maneuvering missile 
targets, such as hypersonic weapons that China and Russia are fielding, 
the USSF, in collaboration with other stakeholders across the 
Department of Defense and the Intelligence Community, has completed a 
force design study for the Missile Warning and Missile Tracking mission 
areas. When the design work is complete, the acquisition community will 
develop a strategy and timeline to rapidly deliver the required 
capability to orbit.

    11. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, the Space Force has awarded an 
``other transaction authority'' (OTA) contract to determine whether 
sensors for the Next-Generation Overhead Persistent Infrared satellites 
can effectively detect and track ballistic missiles. When are the 
results of this OTA expected?
    General Raymond. In May 2021, the U.S. Space Force awarded Other 
Transaction Authority (OTA) contracts to Millennium Space Systems and 
Raytheon Technologies through Space and Missile Systems Center's Space 
Enterprise Consortium. The U.S. Space Force's Missile Track Custody 
prototype effort will examine Overhead Persistent Infrared (OPIR) 
sensor capability from Medium Earth Orbit through ground simulation. 
This effort complements Space Development Agency's and Missile Defense 
Agency's planned on-orbit demonstrations in Low Earth Orbit and informs 
USSF architecture feasibility studies.
    The Missile Track Custody effort includes an 18-month base period 
of performance. During this time, the contractors will advance their 
concepts to Critical Design Review-maturity and deliver functioning 
Engineering Development Units to validate sensor designs. Additionally, 
the contractors will deliver Digital Engineering models which will 
reduce integration risk and support Missile Track Custody requirements 
development.

    12. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, does the Space Force have a 
projected timeline for when satellites will be a viable addition to the 
constellation of radars to track ballistic missiles?
    General Raymond. It is important to note the Space Force currently 
operates a Missile Warning architecture that detects and tracks 
ballistic missiles. These systems provide an ``unblinking eye'' capable 
of warning the Joint warfighter and our Allies of an impending missile 
attack. However, to better detect and track advanced maneuvering 
missile targets which emit reduced infrared signatures, the U.S. Space 
Force, in collaboration with other stakeholders across the Department 
of Defense and the Intelligence Community, has completed a force design 
study for the Missile Warning and Missile Tracking mission areas. When 
the design work is complete, the acquisition community will develop a 
strategy and timeline to rapidly deliver the required capability to 
orbit.

    13. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, can persistent overhead 
satellites eliminate the need for ground based radar systems for 
detecting and tracking ballistic missiles?
    General Raymond. Current and future planned space-based overhead 
persistent infrared (OPIR) systems do not eliminate a need for ground 
based radar (GBR) systems to detect and track ballistic missiles today. 
OPIR and GBR systems are both required to provide accurate, timely and 
unambiguous warning and attack assessment of air, missile and space 
threats. Space-based OPIR systems will detect a missile launch first 
and cue the GBRs to improve our missile warning capability. 
Additionally, current OPIR satellites do not track cold objects in 
space.
    Given the speed and nature of advancing threats, as well as the 
technologies and operational concepts used to detect and warn against 
those threats, it is premature to assess how missile warning and 
tracking will be provided in the future, and when, if ever, transition 
to a different approach would occur.

    14. Senator Hirono. General Raymond, how is the Space Force 
planning to protect critical intelligence, missile warning and 
tracking, and communications satellites in space from emerging Chinese 
and Russian threats?
    General Raymond. The Space Force strategy for protecting critical 
satellites has three components: resilient architectures, ready 
guardians, and robust partnerships.
    First, the Space Force continues to field systems with 
architectural resiliency. This includes fielding satellites with 
enhanced hardening and resiliency, fortifying ground and communication 
infrastructure, deploying proliferated constellations, and increasing 
our ability to rapidly reconstitute our capabilities. Resilient 
architectures reduce the likelihood and severity of a successful 
attack. The Space Force can also use non-technical means, such as 
maneuvering satellites to help protect from certain types of attacks.
    The Space Force is developing guardians prepared to defeat Russian 
and Chinese threats. This requires warfighting focused intelligence, 
tactics, exercises, and training programs. Space Training and Readiness 
Command will consolidate all of these functions under a single 
commander who is solely focused on developing combat-ready guardians.
    Finally, the Space Force continues to reinforce a safe and secure 
space environment by sharing data, forming partnerships with 
interagency, commercial, and international partners. This creates an 
environment where adversaries who would threaten U.S. satellites will 
find themselves entrenched against a diverse collection of partners 
committed to a safe and secure orbital environment.
    We can address this more fully at higher classification levels.
                           future fighter mix
    15. Senator Hirono. General Brown, in February you launched a study 
into the service's future fighter jet force mix. After reviewing your 
budget request, it appears the Air Force is planning to focus research 
funds on a Next Generation Air Dominance aircraft while complementing 
the existing F-22 and F-35 fleets with more F-35s and the F-15EX. What 
steps is the Air Force taking to ensure the F-35's operational testing 
is not further delayed beyond 2022?
    General Brown. The Air Force continues to fully fund F-35 test and 
the fiscal year 2022 President's Budget request commits $1.05 billion 
to research, development, test & evaluation.
    The Air Force will continue to work with the Joint Program Office 
to finalize the Joint Simulation Environment (JSE) schedule to complete 
initial operational test & evaluation and inform the new Acquisition 
Program Baseline. This updated schedule will be presented to the 
Defense Acquisition Executive in August 2021.
    The Air Force will also continue to work with the JPO to explore 
opportunities to streamline and accelerate test activities wherever 
possible.

    16. Senator Hirono. General Brown, what is the timeline for 
procurement of the Next Generation Air Dominance aircraft and how will 
it fit in the Air Force's future fighter mix over the next two decades?
    General Brown. The Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) capability 
is currently in the Research and Development phase. NGAD will take time 
to fully develop and field.
    NGAD will provide Survivability, Lethality, and Persistence across 
the entire range of military operations--seamless integration with 
ABMS--a mix of manned, unmanned, and even optionally manned aircraft 
and advanced stand-off weapons.
    NGAD fits into the future fleet as a complementary capability to F-
15EX, F-35, and F-16.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
                   all domain capability development
    17. Senator King. General Brown and General Raymond, please 
describe your priority obstacles within the Department of Defense and 
the interagency that your services encounter when trying to develop 
Joint All Domain capabilities. Please specifically address obstacles 
regarding software development, data sharing and integration, network 
integration, risk management frameworks, Joint All Domain Command and 
Control, artificial intelligence, joint development environments, and 
cloud-based systems.
    General Brown. Many years of stove piped and rapid development of 
niche capabilities has challenged the DOD's ability to enable globally 
integrated operations. The U.S. Air Force (USAF) is focused on the 
Department of the Air Force's role in Joint All-Domain Operations. The 
Air Force has published Air Force Doctrine AFDP 3-99 titled Department 
of the Air Force Role in Joint All-Domain Operations (JADO), which also 
addresses Joint All-Domain Command and Control a key piece to Joint All 
Domain Operations.
    As the USAF shifts from a network-centric to a data-centric 
enterprise, seeking to build information advantage as a key enabler to 
JADC2, data sharing is vital. It will require changes in how the USAF 
characterizes, secures, transports, stores, and exchanges data. Though 
theater-specific conditions will dictate tailored solutions, a common 
framework between the USAF and its partners is needed. Disparate, patch 
worked, ``bolted on'' data sharing policies, standards, and technology 
are a hindrance; in order to excel in competition and conflict moving 
forward, unity and cohesion of effort is a requirement.
    As we develop Joint All Domain capabilities, we also have to 
remember that allies and partners will be integral to our success. It's 
not good enough to somehow bolt them onto our networks when a conflict 
begins--we need to include them from the beginning. This means that as 
we develop architectures and standards, we need to overcome some of our 
own instincts to over-classify our work so that we can include allies 
and partners from the start.
    As we move into the Joint All Domain future, we also need to 
develop the Joint doctrine, policy, structures, training, and our 
people to fully realize these capabilities. Using new technology in old 
ways will not deliver decision superiority on its own.
    General Raymond. The USSF is fundamentally focused on creating a 
modern, data-driven enterprise to achieve mission success in the space-
domain and as a key contributor to joint multi-domain, interagency and 
joint warfighting success. In pursuit of Joint All-Domain capabilities, 
the USSF has encountered general challenges and obstacles within the 
DOD and across the interagency that include system complexity, limited 
personnel resources, and competing priorities. Coordination, 
communication, and cooperation are essential to address these in 
committed pursuit of true Joint All-Domain operations. Data sharing is 
vital to this effort within the USSF and across our joint, interagency, 
industry, academia, and international partners. As the first Service to 
be born-digital, we are providing several space and cyber domain 
capabilities, including the Unified Data Library, as a key contribution 
for all domain Command and Control (C2) capabilities. Additionally, we 
are focused on developing and refining space and Joint doctrine, 
policy, process, governance, tools, structures, training, and culture 
to fully realize the full potential of a Joint All-Domain future.
    The USSF has encountered several specific challenges or obstacles 
in developing Joint All Domain capabilities. Software development is 
still constrained by competing demand for government and industry 
personnel and the time it takes to increase capacity. Data sharing and 
integration remain an immense system of systems challenge exacerbated 
by legacy DOD systems, the breadth of domain-specific demands, and 
service-specific Command and Control approaches. Network integration is 
a challenge given the diverse array of mission objectives, operational 
requirements, and interfaces. Although risk management frameworks 
differ, significant progress has been made to incorporate operational 
risk perspective in this area. Joint development environments are being 
fielded, but as of yet lack the overarching force design to drive 
enterprise changes. Cloud-based systems remain essential, but are 
challenged by security concerns, disparate Zero Trust implementations, 
and integration issues in a federated approach.
    The USSF is addressing some of these challenges via people, 
policies, tools and partnerships to reduce obstacles in developing 
Joint capabilities. Within our authorities, the Space Force is raising 
the digital literacy of our workforce through Digital University to 
better understand and manage the latest technologies like cloud-based 
systems, artificial intelligence and software development and shift 
from a risk-averse to a more risk-informed culture.
    We also continue to partner within the Department of the Air Force 
on common challenges.
    The Department is working to shift from a network-centric to data-
centric enterprise in order to build information advantages and advance 
data sharing.
    At the end of the day, the Space Force must create a lean digital 
workforce that is supported by culture and processes we often see in 
cyber-secure focused industry. We will continue to work with Joint, 
interagency, coalition, industry and academia partners to resolve 
issues and develop solutions.

    18. Senator King. General Brown and General Raymond, would the Air 
Force and the Space Force be willing to work with Congress in reducing 
some of these obstacles, possibly by developing Goldwater-Nichols like 
reforms for Joint All Domain capability development, data sharing and 
integration, and network integration across the DOD and interagency?
    General Brown. We are always seeking ways to work with Congress in 
delivering better capabilities to the warfighter and streamlining our 
capability development process to accelerate change.
    Within DOD, the services are closely coordinating through the Joint 
All Domain Command and Control (JADC2) Cross Functional Team, led by 
the Joint Staff, to pursue JADC2 capability development, data sharing 
and integration, and network integration. This effort includes joint 
capability development across the entire range of capabilities through 
a Joint All Domain Command and Control Implementation Plan.
    In recognition that data sharing underpins our Joint All Domain 
capabilities going forward, we've also been working across the DOD and 
interagency on a series of high-level Data Summits to focus the efforts 
of our team.
    On 20 July 2020, this group met at U.S. Special Operations Command 
to develop our DOD Reference Architecture 3.0 which will set common 
standards to ensure integration. In early August 2020, our cross-DOD 
and interagency data sharing and network integration teams will meet to 
further develop the DOD Reference Architecture 3.0. Our Department of 
the Air Force Rapid Capabilities Office, Chief Architect Office, Chief 
Data Officer's team, and other experts will participate to ensure a 
high level of integration.
    General Raymond. Yes. The USSF is willing to work with Congress to 
efficiently, affordably, and responsively deliver better capabilities 
to the Space and Joint warfighters while streamlining our capability 
development, data sharing, and systems integration processes to 
accelerate change and ensure national security success.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                                  mq-9
    19. Senator Rosen. General Brown, last week, Secretary Austin told 
me during the DOD Posture hearing that the Air Force is reducing the 
number of MQ-9 lines, but not the number of tails. I'm curious why 
there is any reduction at all when the Air Force today still lacks the 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) capacity to meet 
Combatant Commanders' requirements contained in the 2018 National 
Defense Strategy. Can you please expand on what this reduction strategy 
is and whether there is soon to be a next generation program of record 
to replace the MQ-9?
    General Brown. In fiscal year 2022 the Air Force is only requesting 
a reduction in combat lines. This reduction is less than 10 percent of 
the current force presentation (4 of 60) and does not equate to 
reduction in aircraft inventory; no tails will be divested, no 
reduction in personnel, and no reduced squadrons. By keeping 60 combat 
lines, and not modifying the way the MQ-9 fleet is utilized, the 
platform will become more vulnerable and irrelevant, even in low-end 
conflicts.
    The Air Force remains committed to providing MQ-9 intelligence, 
surveillance, reconnaissance, and strike capability to Combatant 
Commands and will continue to offer MQ-9 capability to CENTCOM for the 
foreseeable future.
    While the MQ-9 provides utility today, it was not designed for 
operation in a future highly-contested environment. Modifying the MQ-9 
force presentation is about balancing near and long-term risk.
    The Air Force is looking at multiple systems that can replace the 
capacity and capability currently filled by the MQ-9. Continued 
modernization efforts seek to provide future warfighters the ability to 
access data and information at a moment's notice. Our systems must be 
able to penetrate contested areas and survive and the MQ-9, as we know 
it today, simply cannot.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                             amraam program
    The fiscal year 2022 request for AMRAAM production includes a 
significant reduction to the planned quantity for the Air Force and 
zero fiscal year 2022 funding for Navy production. The basis for these 
reductions was the previous schedule delay on the Form, Fit, and 
Function Refresh (F3R) cut-in for the next version of AMRAAM. It is my 
understanding that following the re-plan with the Air Force, the 
development program is meeting its schedule milestones. More than 850 
employees in Arizona work on this program today, and I want to ensure 
we don't inadvertently cause a production break of this critical air 
dominance capability.

    20. Senator Kelly. Secretary Roth and General Brown, the Air Force 
awarded Lot 34 (fiscal year 2020 funding) this spring, and plans to 
award Lot 35 (fiscal year 2021 funding) in July 2021, and Lot 36 
(fiscal year 2022 funding) in July 2022. What is the confidence level 
of the Air Force on the F3R recovery--is it moving in the right 
direction?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. Yes, the program is progressing 
in the right direction. Due to hardware integration issues, the AMRAAM 
Form, Fit, Function, Refresh (F3R) program experienced a 13 month 
schedule slip. Since then, Raytheon Missiles & Defense (RMD) achieved a 
number of significant milestones and implemented a detailed plan to 
maintain schedule to the completion of the program. Additionally, RMD 
has demonstrated improvement in forecasting remaining work while 
burning down a backlog of tasks that were behind. This gives the 
government high-confidence in RMD's ability to meet its Functional 
Configuration Audit, a major milestone for the program, by January 
2023. The program's critical path is holding steady and the program is 
confident in RMD's ability to execute the fiscal year 2022 budget.

    21. Senator Kelly. Secretary Roth and General Brown, how will the 
Air Force and Navy ensure stable AMRAAM production across production 
lots planned for fiscal year 2021 to fiscal year 2022 without fiscal 
year 2022 Navy production funding? Please provide details on how prior 
year funding will be utilized to stabilize production rates.
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. While the Air Force and the Navy 
pursued different funding approaches to address the F3R impacts to 
future production lots, both are intended to stabilize AMRAAM 
production quantities across Lot 34, Lot 35, and Lot 36. The Air Force 
chose to decrease AMRAAM procurement funding across fiscal year 2020, 
fiscal year 2021, and fiscal year 2022, while the Navy's approach was 
to zero-out fiscal year 2022 and carry over fiscal year 2021 funds to 
support both Lot 35 and Lot 36 procurement. It is imperative that the 
fiscal year 2021 Navy funding remains intact to execute this strategy 
and keep the production line above minimum sustainment rates. The 
services will continue to coordinate with each other and communicate 
with Congress to ensure these funding profiles are protected.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Roger Wicker
                      air force officer promotions
    22. Senator Wicker. General Brown and General Raymond, several 
years ago an anonymous Air Force Colonel writing under the pseudonym of 
Ned Stark published an article, ``A Call for Senior Officer Reform in 
the Air Force: An Insider's Perspective,'' which criticized the 
service's officer promotion process. I think the grade of O-3 is too 
early to identify individuals as future general officers. This system 
could result in promoting below standard O-4s, O-5s, and O-6s to the 
general officer ranks. Do you believe the Air Force's current 
evaluation and promotion system best meets the needs of both the 
service and the individuals?
    General Brown. While the current Air Force talent management system 
has served us well, like all processes we utilize it is constantly 
evolving to improve and meet future developmental requirements. As a 
result, the Air Force has been overhauling its talent management system 
with a focus on ensuring we produce airmen capable of executing future 
Air Force missions as envisioned in the National Defense Strategy. This 
includes building leaders with the key Airmen Leadership Qualities 
(ALQs) we believe will be essential for success in the future fight 
like smart risk taking, innovation, leading inclusively and others. To 
set this course, the AF published 10 ALQs which form the foundation of 
new officer and enlisted evaluation systems currently under 
development. We also transformed the single Line of the Air Force 
promotion category into six developmentally focused categories adding 
agility for officer development and career progression. In 2020, we 
transitioned away from below the promotion zone consideration where we 
selected some officers ahead of their peers based on demonstrated and 
future promotion potential. This transition now allows officers' 
greater space for in-grade development and building deeper leadership 
skills and experience through less rigid career tracks. While not 
directly related, the Air Force certainly talked with and partnered 
with Colonel Jason Lamb, ``Ned Stark,'' on many of the reforms we are 
undertaking to ensure our future leaders are just as capable as those 
we've been developing.
    General Raymond. The Air Force has an excellent system it is 
building upon and evolving to meet its needs; however, the Space Force 
is much smaller and requires a more individualized talent management 
system. Until the Space Force is able to field the new system described 
in the Guardian Ideal, we will continue to use the Air Force system 
with some policy differences based in our unique Service requirements. 
We anticipate fielding our new developmental feedback process, 
appraisal system, and approach toward promotions before the end of 
fiscal year 2023. Mr. Jason Lamb, who wrote the referenced essay under 
the pseudonym Cole Ned Stark, was a principal author of the Guardian 
Ideal and is fully involved in its implementation as our Talent 
Strategist.

    23. Senator Wicker. General Brown and General Raymond, what, if 
anything, are the Air Force and Space Force doing to address the issues 
raised in the article?
    General Brown. While the current Air Force Talent management system 
has served us well, like all processes we utilize it is constantly 
evolving to improve and meet future developmental requirements. As a 
result, the Air Force has been overhauling its talent management system 
with a focus on ensuring we produce airmen capable of executing future 
Air Force missions as envisioned in the National Defense Strategy. This 
includes building leaders with the key Airmen Leadership Qualities 
(ALQs) we believe will be essential for success in the future fight 
like smart risk taking, innovation, leading inclusively and others. To 
set this course, the AF published 10 ALQs which form the foundation of 
new officer and enlisted evaluation systems currently under 
development. We also transformed the single Line of the Air Force 
promotion category into six developmentally focused categories adding 
agility for officer development and career progression. In 2020, we 
transitioned away from below the promotion zone consideration where we 
selected some officers ahead of their peers based on demonstrated and 
future promotion potential. This transition now allows officers' 
greater space for in-grade development and building deeper leadership 
skills and experience through less rigid career tracks. While not 
directly related, the Air Force certainly talked with and partnered 
with Cole Jason Lamb, ``Ned Stark,'' on many of the reforms we are 
undertaking to ensure our future leaders are just as capable as those 
we've been developing.
    General Raymond. The Space Force is building upon the excellent 
work by the Air Force to expand the type and quantity of information 
available to the promotion board to help inform promotion 
recommendations. The approach that we outline in the Guardian Ideal has 
three primary components: performance appraisal, behavioral and 
competency assessments, and situational judgment testing. Performance 
management science and cutting edge approaches in the private sector 
have demonstrated that this will provide us better informed and data-
driven assessments of who is best prepared for promotion. All of these 
tools are based on where a person is in the here and now, including the 
propensity for success, and not based on a record of performance 
largely based on past performance. The Department of the Air Force is 
one team who remain committed to developing our members and promoting 
the best candidates.
                        training aircraft (t-1)
    24. Senator Wicker. General Brown, I understand that a plan is 
being finalized to retire the T-1 training aircraft currently used to 
support Specialized Undergraduate Pilot Training (SUPT), and the Air 
Force intends to move to an increased reliance on simulator training. 
What is the Air Force's plan for the future of the T-1 training fleet?
    General Brown. Over the last few years the Air Force has been 
analyzing better ways to train aircrews, to better prepare our pilots 
for the modern platforms now entering service (F-35, KC-46, MH-139, B-
21, etc.).
    The Air Force plans to transition away from some of the T-1 
capacity in the coming years and will increase use of simulators and 
other Virtual Reality training devices. This new training program and 
syllabi are still in development.
                           space force firing
    25. Senator Wicker. General Raymond, last month the firing of Space 
Force commander Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeier was widely 
publicized. According to a spokesman from the Space Force, he was fired 
due to comments he made in a podcast criticizing aspects of diversity 
training as being based in Marxism and discriminatory critical race 
theory. Regarding the firing, does it concern you that we may be 
stifling independent thinking and healthy self-critique within the 
ranks?
    General Raymond. The specifics of Lieutenant Colonial Lohmeier's 
relief from Command are currently under review, and it would be 
improper for me to comment on the specifics of his case. However, 
independent thinking, self-assessment, and debate are encouraged in 
both the Air Force and Space Force.
                          critical race theory
    26. Senator Wicker. Secretary Roth, last month I sent a letter to 
Secretary of Defense Austin expressing my concerns about possible 
political motivations behind this action. servicemembers are prohibited 
from participating in public broadcasts like a podcast if they do so as 
an advocate for partisan causes. If, in criticizing critical race 
theory, Lieutenant Colonel Lohmeier's comments were found to be 
partisan, it follows that the Department recognizes critical race 
theory as reflecting one side of a partisan debate, and if that is the 
case, it would be inappropriate for the Department to actively promote 
critical race theory through training initiatives at any level. Is it 
the Department of the Air Force's position that publicly opposing 
critical race theory represents prohibited partisan activity for 
servicemembers?
    Secretary Roth. The Department of the Air Force has not taken the 
position that publicly opposing critical race theory represents 
prohibited partisan activity for servicemembers. Lieutenant Colonial 
Lohmeier was relieved because a superior competent authority lost trust 
and confidence in his ability to command. Command is a privilege, not a 
right. Our Department of the Air Force Inspector General is conducting 
a comprehensive investigation which we will share with Congress when 
complete.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                        kc-10 & aerial refueling
    27. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, the KC-46A 
Pegasus aircraft has yet to achieve full rate production and lacks a 
remote visual system that is fully functional during all light levels. 
Moreover, a KC-46 carries only 2,000lbs more transferable fuel than a 
KC-135 and carries 140,000lbs less than a KC-10. In an effort to reduce 
cost at the risk of mission failure, the Air Force seeks to retire 
legacy aircraft with fully functional and approved fuel transfer 
systems; specifically, KC-10s. In your opinion, are cost savings more 
important than strategic mission success? Put differently, should a 
legacy platform with proven, capable systems be maintained and utilized 
over a future system that has yet to meet primary mission requirements?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. Cost savings are not the reason 
the Air Force is transferring to the KC-46. The KC-46 will be a more 
reliable capability that ensures refueling capacity well into the 
future.
    Also, the KC-46 provides capabilities the KC-10 cannot. These 
include capabilities for aeromedical evacuation, cargo missions, and 
its advanced communication system will extend ABMS to the edge of the 
battlespace. The KC-10 cannot be retrofitted to provide these 
capabilities in a platform with increased survivability, self-
protection, and situational awareness required to compete, deter, and 
win in complex security environments.

    28. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, how many KC-
46A air-to-air refueling missions are being sourced outside the 
continental United States in support of operational sorties (i.e. not 
training sorties)?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. The following numbers reflect the 
number of OCONUS sorties flown for each of the last few years. It 
includes regular component AMC tails only (not Air National Guard 
(ANG), Air Force Reserve Command (AFRC), Air Education & Training 
Command (AETC), United States Air Forces in Europe (USAFE), Pacific Air 
Forces (PACAF), Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC), or Air Force Special 
Operations Command (AFSOC)) that either took off or landed outside of 
the United States:
    Calendar Year 2018: 0 OCONUS KC-46 sorties
    Calendar Year 2019: 25 OCONUS KC-46 sorties
    Calendar Year 2020: 123 OCONUS KC-46 sorties
    Calendar Year 2021: 83 OCONUS KC-46 sorties (thru 31 May)

    29. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, how Many KC-
10 air-to-air refueling missions are being sourced outside the 
continental United States in support of operational sorties (i.e. not 
training sorties)?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. The following numbers reflect the 
number of OCONUS sorties flown for each of the last few years. It 
includes regular component AMC tails only (not ANG, AFRC, AETC, USAFE, 
PACAF, AFMC, or AFSOC) that either took off or landed (or both) outside 
of the United States:
    Calendar Year 2018: 4,319 OCONUS KC-10 sorties
    Calendar Year 2019: 4,546 OCONUS KC-10 sorties
    Calendar Year 2020: 2,927 OCONUS KC-10 sorties
    Calendar Year 2021: 983 OCONUS KC-10 sorties (thru 31 May)

    30. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, how important 
is it that ``warfighters train like they fight'' and prepare for future 
deployments by tanking from platforms that they will encounter overseas 
and in combat?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. As Moody Suiter stated in the 
1960's in response to combat losses in Vietnam, if we give our aircrew 
their first 10 combat sorties in a training environment, their 
survivability in combat will improve exponentially.
    This concept applies across all elements of Air Force Operations 
and training. Our Aircrews must have training on all expected tankers 
before deploying. The capability to train like we fight is critically 
important. I think the Air Force has the right sight picture and is 
incorporating this concept into training appropriately.

    31. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, the Air Force 
and U.S. Transportation Command have previously stated that more than 
25,000 hours of aerial refueling missions are not being supported 
annually. Given that the KC-46 is still not fully operational, and the 
Air Force has already begun retiring some of the KC-10 fleet, I assume 
that there is still a significant shortfall in Air Force's aerial 
refueling capacity. What is the current shortfall? How does this impact 
training for aircrews and tanker availability for combatant commands?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. In April 2020, The Secretary of 
the Air Force provided the Congress with a report titled, ``Fiscal Year 
2020 NDAA Contractor-Operated Aerial Refueling Aircraft.'' That 
reported extrapolated ``as many as 30,000 hours of aerial refueling 
missions are not being supported annually.'' That assessment resonates 
with the Joint Force's appetite for aerial refueling. However, requests 
for air refueling capability vary in criticality and are often 
unconstrained by resources. That said, the air refueling fleet remains 
stressed. USTRANSCOM manages the tension between available resources 
and requests for capability in order to prevent mission failure.
    The transition to the KC-46 created an air refueling capacity 
bathtub, meaning the air refueling enterprise is at a low point in 
available capacity. However, acceptance of the KC-46 will ameliorate 
this capacity low point. Additionally, as forces withdraw from 
Southwest Asia, air refueling demands also decrease. As recently as 
2017, USTRANSCOM supported 70 air refueling aircraft deployed to 
CENTCOM. By 2022, this will drop to about 35 aircraft. Additionally, 
the KC-46 crew ratio is higher across the Total Force when compared to 
both the KC-135 and about the same as the KC-10. When fully delivered 
and manned in 2029, roughly 160 more air refueling crews across the 
Total Force will exist, providing 10 percent more taskable aircraft on 
a daily basis than we had in 2019, before any aircraft were retired. 
While we have a shortfall today, the trajectory is improving over time 
and will accelerate as the KC-46 reaches full operational capability.
    USTRANSCOM's top priority is warfighting readiness and ensuring our 
component commands are capable of supporting their wartime missions. As 
such, training for a high-end fight is an absolute necessity. As 
operational activity decreased in Southwest Asia, a greater focus 
across the entire Mobility Air Force, including air refueling forces, 
shifted to full-spectrum readiness.
    Since 2015, the average daily number of global air refueling 
missions was 139, and by the end of 2020, the average dropped to 100. 
This created opportunity for aircrews to conduct necessary high-end 
training. Tanker crew training is certainly necessary, but receiver 
pilot training presents a priority in order to maintain their combat 
edge.
    While the number of tasked air refueling missions was about 100 a 
day in 2020, USTRANSCOM committed an additional 68 aircraft to receiver 
training. Looking to the future, air refueling workload is balanced 
with expected capacity, especially with the relief gained through use 
of the KC-46 interim capability release that can support many non-
deployed and lower priority missions, freeing up fully capable KC-10 
and KC-135 units to provide necessary support and refocus on training.

    32. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, last year 
General Lyons testified before this Committee that the KC-10 and KC-135 
legacy tanker retirements proposed in fiscal year 2021 would ``create a 
capacity bathtub with significant impacts to combatant command daily 
competition and wartime missions, and negatively impact senior leader 
decision space for mobilization when confronted with a crisis.'' 
Congress prevented some, but not all, of these retirements in the 
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2021. Given that the 
KC-46 is still not fully operational, and aerial refueling requirements 
have presumably either increased or remained the same, would you 
support efforts to increase tanker capacity in order to meet aircrew 
training and daily combatant commander operational requirements?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. Reduced refueling requirements as 
a result of withdrawal from Afghanistan provides us a window for 
modernization of the force while also incurring minimal operational 
risk.
    USTRANSCOM has confirmed that, with planned divestments, the Air 
Force will continue to have sufficient air refueling capacity to meet 
global Joint Force demands during the transition to a fully operational 
KC-46. No additional air refueling capacity is needed beyond the PB22 
position to meet aircrew training and daily Combatant Command 
requirements.

    33. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, I have 
serious concerns regarding the Air Force's desire to retire a 
significant number of legacy tankers prior to the KC-46 becoming fully 
operational. I am particularly concerned by the potential loss of the 
KC-10, which provides significantly more fuel offload than both the KC-
135 and the KC-46. I understand that the KC-10 fleet has many more 
years left in terms of potential service life, and am concerned that 
prematurely retiring such a strategic asset would result in a loss of 
warfighter capability that cannot be regained for many years to come. 
Please describe the importance of the KC-10 to the Air Force's aerial 
refueling capability, and the potential impact to missions for Air 
Force, Navy, and Marine Corps pilots and aircrews if we cut additional 
KC-10s.
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. The KC-10 has been a great 
aircraft, providing strategic air-refueling and airlift capabilities 
over the last 34 years; however, they are expensive to maintain. In 
order to ensure global reach for the Joint Force and air refueling 
capabilities that can generate combat power in austere and contested 
environments of the future, the Department of the Air Force is retiring 
the KC-10, certifying and fielding the KC-46, and maintaining upgraded 
KC-135s.
    We do not have the manpower and resources for future Tanker 
capability unless we divest KC-10s in the near-term. Our operators and 
maintainers are a fixed resource and cannot fully operate and maintain 
two sets of tanker aircraft at fully operational capable levels.

    34. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, I understand 
that, although the KC-46 has been cleared to conduct some aerial 
refueling missions, the aircraft will not be considered to be fully 
operational until major deficiencies such as the Remote Visual System 
are resolved, which likely won't be until 2023 at the earliest. I was 
surprised to learn that, despite this non- or semi-operational status, 
the KC-46s being delivered are being coded into the Primary Mission 
Aircraft Inventory (PMAI). Please explain why these aircraft are given 
the same inventory status as fully operational KC-10s or KC-135s.
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. Primary Mission Aircraft 
Inventory (PMAI) is the correct designation for KC-46s that are being 
assigned to a unit, since the other categories (training, development, 
and special missions) are not applicable.
    The Department of the Air Force and Boeing are on a path to correct 
remaining performance Category-I deficiencies as soon as 2023/2024, but 
the KC-46, consistent with operational restrictions, is currently 
demonstrating limited operational capability to conduct air refueling. 
The Air Force plans a conditions-based approach to leverage existing 
and planned KC-46 capability to provide predictable and sustainable 
tanker capacity through daily operational missions prior to Initial 
Operational Capability (IOC) declaration, lessening the tasks on the 
KC-135 and KC-10.

    35. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, I understand 
that there have been conversations regarding possible uses for KC-10 
aircraft prior to being fully retired and sent to the boneyard. I 
understand that one option is to provide the aircraft to industry, 
either through sale or as Government Furnished Equipment, for use in a 
commercial air refueling program. I understand that the Navy and Marine 
Corps have been successfully utilizing a commercial air refueling 
program for the last 20+ years. What is the status of those 
discussions? Shouldn't KC-10 retirements be halted until a decision is 
made on commercial air refueling? More generally, do you believe the 
Air Force should be pursuing a commercial air refueling program to 
address current and future aerial refueling shortfalls?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. The Air Force is currently 
completing an internal Commercial Aerial Refueling Study focusing on 
how daily tanker requirements are met within the force structure 
dictated by the Mobility Capabilities and Requirements Study 2020 
(MCRS-20). If it is determined that additional tankers, crews, or 
flying hours are needed, then the Commercial Aerial Refueling Study 
will describe and evaluate sources to supply the additional need. 
However, the Air Force plans to continue KC-10 retirements since 
manpower and resources are needed to transition to the KC-46.
    KC-10 retirements should not be halted until a decision is made on 
commercial air refueling. In coordination with USTRANSCOM, we have 
developed a sustainable way forward that maintains sufficient air 
refueling requirements as we bridge to the KC-46; for example, the Air 
Force's Interim Capability Release (ICR) process makes KC-46 capacity 
available for limited USTRANSCOM tasking.

    36. Senator Tillis. Secretary Roth and General Brown, the Air Force 
just issued a press release stating, ``the Air Force is seeking 
companies that have the capability to deliver approximately 140-160 
Commercial Derivative Tanker Aircraft--at a rate of 12 to 15 per year--
to supplement the Air Force Tanker Aircraft fleet at the end of KC-46A 
production, and bridge the gap to the next Tanker recapitalization 
phase. The Commercial Derivative Aircraft must be operational by 
2029.'' This while at the same time the Air Force is seeking to retire 
30+ tankers, all of which would otherwise be operational in 2029. The 
KC-10, in particular, is well short of its end of service life. There 
are no recent, public service life estimates, but a Federation of 
American Scientists report from 1999, which has been cited regularly, 
projected 2043. A 2019 War on the Rocks article says the KC-10s are at 
only about 40 percent of their expected lifespan, which would put the 
service life well past 2050. It would appear that the Air Force does 
not expect the KC-46 to have a sufficient lifecycle to last until the 
next generation tanker (KC-Z) is fielded. If this is the case, and you 
have assets like the KC-10 that have more than 20 years left of usable 
service, why divest of fully operational tankers, like the KC-10, that 
can ``bridge the gap'' until the KC-Z is operational? From a monetary 
lens, is this a fiscally responsible use of tax payer dollars?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. The KC-10 has been a great 
aircraft, providing strategic air-refueling and airlift capabilities 
over the last 34 years; however, they are expensive to maintain. 
Maintaining the KC-10 fleet beyond the current divestiture plan 
increases demand for spare parts. Not right-sizing the fleet could 
jeopardize the planned resources for parts repair efforts to maintain a 
safe and air worthy FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) certified 
fleet.
    In order to ensure global reach for the Joint Force and air 
refueling capabilities that can generate combat power in austere and 
contested environments of the future, the Department of the Air Force 
is retiring the KC-10, certifying and fielding the KC-46, and 
maintaining upgraded KC-135s.
    USTRANSCOM concurs with the Department of the Air Force's decision 
to divest the KC-10 in order to facilitate the fielding of a fully 
operational KC-46 weapon system.
                       f-35 joint strike fighter
    During his nomination hearing to be Secretary of the Air Force, 
Frank Kendall stated the F-35 is ``the best tactical aircraft of its 
type in the world, and will be for quite some time.'' In response to 
Senators' questions regarding F-35 costs, Mr. Kendall said, ``the key 
to keeping the cost down in an air fleet is getting the numbers up. 
There's a very strong correlation between the size of the fleet and the 
cost to sustain that fleet. So if there were one thing that I think 
would drive cost down overall, it's continue to buy.''

    37. Senator Tillis. General Brown, the Air Force's fiscal year 2022 
budget request included 12 less F-35 aircraft than were appropriated by 
Congress for fiscal year 2021, and the Air Force's Fiscal Year 2022 
Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) did not include any additional F-35s. 
Further, the Air Force's fiscal year 2022 budget request for Advanced 
Procurement (AP) suggests the Air Force plans to procure no more than 
43 F-35s per year beginning in fiscal year 2023. Do you disagree with 
Mr. Kendall's view that continuing to grow and mature the F-35 fleet at 
a rate consistent with Full Rate Production (FRP) can help manage costs 
and increase aircraft availability?
    General Brown. The Air Force must have the right mix of 
capabilities in the right capacity to ensure combat readiness for today 
and tomorrow. We need Block 4 F-35 modernization, enabled by Technical 
Refresh-3 (TR-3) hardware, on competition-relevant timelines to ensure 
continued F-35 relevance against China or Russia.
    Generally, a larger fleet drives reduced sustainment costs per 
aircraft but the Air Force must weigh overall sustainment costs against 
the potential for increased retrofit costs and development costs for a 
fleet with multiple configurations.
    Procuring additional aircraft before Block 4/TR-3 ``cuts into'' 
production, drives a retrofit bill, and is therefore not desired. As a 
cornerstone capability, the Air Force must retain the F-35's mission 
contribution, even if this requires offsets from within the program.

    38. Senator Tillis. General Brown, how does the Air Force plan to 
mitigate cost and aircraft availability challenges if it continues down 
the path of procuring less F-35As per year than originally planned for 
Full Rate Production?
    General Brown. The Air Force must have the right mix of 
capabilities in the right capacity to ensure combat readiness for today 
and tomorrow. We need Block 4 F-35 modernization, enabled by Technical 
Refresh-3 (TR-3) hardware, on competition-relevant timelines to ensure 
continued F-35 relevance against China or Russia.
    Generally, a larger fleet drives reduced sustainment costs per 
aircraft but the Air Force must weigh overall sustainment costs against 
the potential for increased retrofit costs and development costs for a 
fleet with multiple configurations.
    Procuring additional aircraft before Block 4/TR-3 ``cuts into'' 
production, drives a retrofit bill, and is therefore not desired. As a 
cornerstone capability, the Air Force must retain the F-35's mission 
contribution, even if this requires offsets from within the program.

    39. Senator Tillis. General Brown, the Air Force has been procuring 
F-35s at a rate nearing Full Rate Production for the past several 
years. Air Force leaders have testified that F-35s coming off the 
production line today have the best ``break rate'' in the Air Force. 
Recently publicized data showed F-35 as having the best ``Mission 
Capable'' rate out of all Air Force fighter fleets in 2020. Despite 
these significant achievements, the Air Force's fiscal year 2022 budget 
proposes reducing F-35 annual procurement below last year's 
appropriated level, while purchasing additional 4th generation fighters 
that have not been produced at rates for the Air Force in roughly 20+ 
years. As the Air Force tries to mitigate a fighter shortfall, how does 
this revised acquisition plan not add additional risk? How does the Air 
Force plan to mitigate this risk?
    General Brown. The Air Force is investing in a future fighter force 
needed to ensure air superiority for the Joint Force against any 
adversary. This includes a focus on investments to create a 
complementary combination of higher end and lower end fighters that 
provide the affordable capabilities and capacity needed to achieve NDS 
objectives.
    The current fighter force path is unaffordable in both the near and 
long term due to increasing operating costs of 5th gen aircraft and 
rising modernization costs of an aging legacy fleet.
    By reducing the number of types of fighter aircraft in the 
inventory from seven to four over the next 15-20 years will allow the 
Air Force to focus investments on capabilities needed to win (NGAD, F-
15EX, F-35, F-16).

    40. Senator Tillis. General Brown, recent Air Force messaging on 
the F-35 program has been inconsistent and at times conflicted with 
feedback Congress has received from Combatant Commanders, other 
services, and international customers. Does the Air Force understand 
that by slowing F-35 procurement, it will inevitably increase 
procurement costs, decrease aircraft availability, and discourage 
further international involvement? If unchanged, I am deeply concerned 
the Air Force could put F-35 on a path similar to F-22 and be left 
without any advanced fighter fleet going forward.
    General Brown. The AF is continuing to modernize the F-22 to remain 
capable against improving adversaries, and there are no plans to retire 
it in the near-term. Results from the TACAIR study will be a force 
structure recommendation for a capable and affordable force structure 
with sufficient capacity to provide air superiority and global strike 
to the Joint Force.
    The Air Force is absolutely not backing away from the F-35. In 
fact, the majority of the fighters we are procuring in our budget are 
F-35. Also, there is currently a delivery delay for full Block 4 
capability (6-18 months; 2026 delivery). A slight slowing of F-35 
procurement ensures we do not increase the number of aircraft requiring 
retrofit to achieve full Block 4 capability.
    Air Force fighters average 29 years of age, and that is reflected 
in our readiness and fiscal challenges. We need to buy as many fighters 
as possible to recapitalize the force, we just need to approach 
procurement smartly.

    41. Senator Tillis. General Brown, you have previously stated that 
the U.S. Air Force is committed to the F-35 program and that it is the 
``cornerstone'' of the Air Force's tactical fighter fleet. Can you 
confirm for the Committee that the U.S. Air Force remains committed to 
the F-35 program? How is F-35 the ``cornerstone'' of the fighter fleet 
and what important capabilities does it provide the Air Force?
    General Brown. The F-35 is a cornerstone capability for several 
reasons, first of which being it is the majority of the fighters we are 
procuring in our budget are F-35.
    Additionally, the F-35 is the only western fifth-generation 
aircraft currently in mass production; it provides the U.S. and our 
closest allies and partners with potent combat power.
    If called upon to fight a peer adversary today in a highly 
contested environment, the F-22 and F-35 would provide a potent one-two 
punch as part of a joint or coalition team. In the future, our Next 
Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) platform will be an even-more 
formidable teammate for the F-35 in that environment.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
        joint pacific alaska range complex (jparc) modernization
    42. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Roth and General Brown, in response 
to a question for the record concerning the interdependence of range 
modernization and readiness, the USINDOPACOM commander, Admiral 
Aquilino, stated, ``Modernizing our ranges . . . will allow the joint 
force to train against an evolving threat and technologically advanced 
opponent with our allies and partners.'' I could not agree more. In 
March of 2020, the Department of the Air Force submitted a report to 
the congressional defense committees concerning range modernization for 
the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex (JPARC) and the Nevada Test and 
Training Range (NTTR). The report identified JPARC and NTTR as the only 
two major training ranges the Air Force would modernize to Threat 
Matrix Level 4--or near peer--capability. The report also stated it 
would complete such modernization efforts by fiscal year 2026. Does the 
President's budget submission keep the Air Force on track to complete 
this modernization effort by fiscal year 2026?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. Most of the infrastructure 
required for Level 4, including versions 1 and 2 of the Advanced Radar 
Threat Systems (ARTS), will be in place at these two ranges by fiscal 
year 2026. The final step to achieving Level 4 is fielding the ARTS v3. 
This is a reprioritization from the original plan that was based on the 
ARTS v4. The ARTS v3 will provide significantly greater capability and 
is projected to field in the fiscal year 2030 FYDP (as late as fiscal 
year 2032).
    AF funds are being allocated to Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex 
(JPARC) modernization as part of the Combat Training Ranges (CTR) 
funding. These capabilities will be deployed first to the Nellis Test 
and Training Range (NTTR) and JPARC--the only two AF ranges planned for 
Level 4 (near-peer) capability.
    JPARC is currently scheduled to receive four medium-range ARTS V2s 
($64.8 million) (2 each projected to be delivered in fiscal year 2023 
and fiscal year 2024), two long-range ARTS V1s ($81.1 million) (1 each 
projected to be delivered in fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025), 
along with Radar Signal Emulators (RSEs) ($41.8 million).
    The plan includes funding for development of high-fidelity 
surrogate targets matching simulated threat systems to stress 5th 
Generation sensor fusion capabilities.
    Live Mission Operations Capability (LMOC) will be installed at 
JPARC ($4 million). Effort will deliver a common hardware and software 
platform called ``War Room'' to each training location, links each site 
via a Live Mission Operations Network (LMON), and fields a Multi-Level 
Security (MLS) architecture that enables LMOC to connect all live 
training systems.
                           e-3 modernization
    43. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Roth and General Brown, as you know 
the E-3 Airborne Early Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft is a 
vital piece of air combat command and control and essentially serves as 
the long-range eyes and ears for our air forces. In fact, the E-3 
helped the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) intercept 
over 60 aircraft off the coast of Alaska last year--the most since the 
Cold War. This aircraft uses early 1970s technology and an airframe 
designed in the late 1950s. In February 2021, the Pacific Air Forces 
Commander, General Wilsbach, spoke at the Aerospace Warfare Symposium 
and advocated for the Air Force to procure the E-7 Wedgetail to replace 
the E-3, which is getting ``harder and harder to get airborne.'' How 
does the Air Force plan to modernize the E-3 platform to keep it 
effective against near-peer competitors into the 2030s?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. Current E-3 upgrade programs such 
as the navigation and 40/45 computer processing modifications do not 
provide the capabilities that enable the aircraft to keep up with next 
generation airborne moving target indication ("AMTI") and battle 
management requirements. The future AMTI platform must be able to sense 
and share data both on and off board systems across multiple frequency 
spectrums. Although there is promising future AMTI technologies that 
could someday potentially operate without a hosted airborne platform, 
these future concepts will not be ready before the end of service of 
the E-3 platform. A very near-term decision is needed for a bridging 
capability for an AMTI platform moving forward.

    44. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Roth and General Brown, is 
procuring the E-7 platform that the Royal Australian Air Force operates 
a viable option? What capabilities does that aircraft provide that the 
E-3 does not?
    Secretary Roth General Brown. The Air Force is exploring the 
viability of acquiring the E-7 which is used by both the Royal 
Australian Air Force and the United Kingdom's Royal Air Force. At the 
forefront of the Service's evaluation is the E-7's enhanced 
capability(s) and assessing the aircraft's suitability to meet existing 
and future Air Moving Target Indicator (AMTI) and Battle Management 
requirements. In comparison to the E-3, the E-7 offers a superior radar 
capability with a modern Multirole Electronically Scanned Array (MESA) 
radar capable of staring at sectors of interest and closing the kill 
chain on small and fast targets. Based upon early assessments, the E-7 
could provide capability closing both near and mid-range AMTI gaps 
while also providing wide-area surveillance and integrated fire control 
at the tactical edge. Additionally, the E-7 also presents a potential 
opportunity for cost savings in operations, maintenance, and fuel 
costs.
                       arctic strategy resourcing
    45. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Roth and General Brown, in July 21, 
2021, the Department of the Air Force published its Arctic strategy, 
which Secretary Austin and Deputy Secretary Hicks committed to fully 
resource. In last week's Department of Defense posture hearing, 
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Milley reaffirmed the 
need to ``fully resource the Arctic strategy.'' In a Strategic Forces 
Subcommittee hearing last week, General VanHerck, the U.S. Northern 
Command Commander and designated advocate for Arctic capabilities, 
testified that DOD resourcing for the various service Arctic 
strategies, to include the Department of the Air Force, was ``inching 
along'' but that the Department ``didn't move the ball very far down 
the field'' with the fiscal year 2022 budget. General VanHerck's 
observation is very discouraging and somewhat alarming given the 
increased competition in the region. Do you share General VanHerck's 
view that the implementation of the Air Force's Arctic strategy is too 
slow? If so, how do you plan on accelerating implementation of Air 
Force Arctic strategy?
    Secretary Roth and General Brown. The Air and Space Forces have 
made significant strides on implementation across the strategy's four 
lines of effort: Domain Vigilance, Power Projection, Cooperation, and 
Preparation. Over the past year, we have been researching new 
technology like over the horizon radar and space assets to detect 
incoming threats and working hand in hand with Canada to co-develop a 
data sharing system. Additionally, the Space Force is developing 
public-private partnerships to bring much needed satellite 
communications to the Arctic which can be used by both civilians and 
joint force alike by the end of this year. In recognition of the role 
Alaska plays in global power projection, the Air Force is also on track 
to deliver the majority of F-35s to Alaska by the end of year. 
Meanwhile, we are investing hundreds of millions to modernize the Joint 
Pacific Alaska Range Complex to provide realistic training for these 
advanced aircraft. Understanding the environment is also a priority; 
while we work to mitigate the impact of climate change induced coastal 
erosion and permafrost thaw on our infrastructure, we are enhancing our 
weather forecasting to better predict storms and space weather that are 
unique to the region. While much progress has been made, we will 
continue our implementation efforts to achieve the objectives of the 
DAF Arctic Strategy.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                 arnold engineering development complex
    46. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, Arnold Engineering 
Development Complex operates with WWII-era infrastructure. Do you 
assess these aging facilities and the backlog of projects awaiting 
testing to be national security risks?
    General Brown. We do recognize the test infrastructure's age as a 
causal factor regarding the backlog of projects to be tested and that 
these projects are vital to national security. Our challenge is that we 
must modernize and restore this equipment at the same time we are using 
it to execute test programs. Using planned down time and robust 
scheduling procedures we continue to prioritize use of the facilities 
for the highest priority projects in order to minimize delays to those 
weapon systems with the most impact to National security.

    47. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, are we at a point where 
expanding our throughput capacity and modernizing our testing equipment 
and infrastructure would provide long run RTD&E cost savings and 
opportunity costs in terms of time?
    General Brown. Expanding our throughput capacity and modernizing 
test equipment and infrastructure would no doubt assist us in meeting 
our mission requirements on shorter timelines and would provide RDT&E 
cost savings. The Air Force in conjunction with the Department's OSD 
Test Resource Management Center (TRMC) is aggressively working to 
address aging test infrastructure. Currently, OSD TRMC, the 
Department's hypersonic investment lead, is funding in fiscal year 2022 
a new high temperature aeroshell test materials facility at Arnold 
Engineering Development Complex.

    48. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, do you believe modern, safe 
facilities to be a key element of retention? Are investment in our 
people's workspace a signal of how much we value their efforts?
    General Brown. We value all airmen and invest in them in a variety 
of ways to include salary, health benefits, continuing education, 
proper equipment, and safe workspaces. While we cannot specifically tie 
facilities to retention, overall the Air Force continues to experience 
historic retention rates, reaching a 20-year high in 2020 likely due to 
COVID and the economy. While motivation for retention is difficult to 
quantify, retention and exit surveys indicate job security, assignment 
choices, unit climate & leadership, and spouse employment are key 
retention elements. Finally, we continually look for ways to offer 
increased quality of life, quality of service, and career flexibility 
in order to attract, assess, develop and retain the airmen we need.

    49. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, what obstructions exist that 
would preclude an expeditious standing up of the Ground Test Asset 
Board in consultation with Congress? What additional authorities or 
resources will this effort require?
    General Brown. The Ground Test Asset Board (GTAB) is an Air Force 
Flight Test Center (AFTC) only concept not yet fully approved for use. 
GTAB will be an AFTC communication tool to quickly educate Air Force 
leadership on the unique nature and critical path that these AFTC 
facilities occupy for transitioning programs to the battlefield. Given 
the concept status of GTAB it will be developed to operational status 
by AFTC in a prudent expeditious manner. No additional authorities or 
resources are required.

    50. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, do you believe that the 
current budget is sufficient to reach a 2 percent Plant Replacement 
Value given the Facility, Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization 
account is underfunded, appearing on the Air Force's Unfunded Priority 
List at $320 million?
    General Brown. The fiscal year 2022 President's Budget request for 
the Facility, Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization account would 
bring the DAF to 1.91 percent of the Plant Replacement Value. The $320 
million on the DAF UPL will bring the Department to 2 percent of the 
Plant Replacement Value.
                              mq-9 reapers
    51. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, what is your view on the role 
of the large, existing fleet of flexible and highly reliable MQ-9 
Reapers in Great Power Competition?
    General Brown. While the MQ-9 provides utility today, it was not 
designed for operation in a future highly-contested environment. 
Modifying the MQ-9 force presentation is about balancing near and long-
term risk.
    In fiscal year 2022 the Air Force is only requesting a reduction in 
combat lines. This reduction is less than 10 percent of the current 
force presentation (4 of 60) and does not equate to reduction in 
aircraft inventory; no tails will be divested and no squadrons will be 
reduced. Additionally, the Air Force is requesting funding in our 
fiscal year 2022 budget towards the completion of studies, analysis, 
and concept exploration to determine a capability that better aligns 
with National Defense Strategy objectives for near peer competition in 
the future.
    The Air Force remains committed to providing MQ-9 intelligence, 
surveillance, reconnaissance, and strike capability to Combatant 
Commands and will continue to ensure daily requirements are fulfilled. 
Concurrently, we intend to continue development of future ISR platforms 
that can penetrate inside contested environments, persist in these 
locations, and be able to connect and share data in the advanced battle 
management system. The MQ-9, as we know it today, simply cannot 
accomplish these tasks.
    The Department can offer more details pertaining to replacement ISR 
programs in a classified setting.

    52. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, what would be the value of 
layering redundancy into our MQ-9 Command and Control architecture--
specifically, moving MQ-9 command/return links to a commercial low 
Earth orbit constellation?
    General Brown. The Department of the Air Force is looking at 
multiple options to provide layered redundancy for the MQ-9 Command and 
Control (C2) architecture.
    A low-earth-orbit (LEO) construct could provide resilience in 
global C2 structure by leveraging a commercial, cost-effective network 
that would be shared across the entirety of DOD, thereby providing an 
opportunity for communication and cost efficiencies beyond just the MQ-
9.
    The reduced latency, increased data rates, and numbers of 
satellites proliferated across a LEO constellation also allows for a 
more flexible employment framework that might provide benefits the Air 
Force is exploring for the MQ-9.

    53. Senator Blackburn. General Brown, How do you intend to leverage 
Air Force ISR, to include the rapidly developing Air National Guard 
Cyber ISR Enterprise in the increasingly critical cyber domain?
    General Brown. The Department of the Air Force is fully committed 
to utilizing current and evolving Air Force ISR and the total force 
capabilities in the cyber domain. Through organically owned Air Force 
capabilities and those ISR and Cyber Airmen presented to USCYBERCOM's 
Cyber Mission Force, the Air Force continues to leverage the critical 
skills found in our total force ISR and Cyber Enterprises to achieve 
Joint All Domain Operations.
                           guard and reserve
    54. Senator Blackburn. General Raymond, can we expect to see 
movement toward a Space National Guard?
    General Brown. The DAF has completed a report required by the 2021 
National Defense Authorization Act detailing how to best organize the 
Reserve component within the Space Force. We anticipate delivery to 
Congress after OSD and OMB coordination is complete.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                              afghanistan
    55. Senator Hawley. General Brown, do you have a sense of the 
resources that our withdrawal from Afghanistan will free up for the Air 
Force?
    General Brown. Not at this time. Afghanistan is a very fluid and 
dynamic situation in which the Secretary of Defense will make final 
determination on force posture with in the CENTCOM Area of 
Responsibility.
    Once Air Force resources are redeployed, post Afghanistan 
withdrawal, we intend to recover, reconstitute, re-posture, and 
modernize those resources to build readiness and capacity in alignment 
with National Security/National Defense Strategies.

    56. Senator Hawley. General Brown, how is the Air Force planning to 
reallocate those resources freed up by our withdrawal from Afghanistan 
toward the Indo-Pacific and China?
    General Brown. The global reallocation of forces is a part of the 
Joint Staff led Global Force Management process for Secretary of 
Defense decision.
    Within the global reallocation process, the Air Force intends to 
recover, reconstitute, re-posture, and modernize post Afghanistan 
withdrawal resources towards building readiness and capacity in 
alignment with National Strategy.
    Forces will be reallocated as directed by the Secretary of Defense.
                                 f-15ex
    57. Senator Hawley. General Brown, the Air Force has requested 12 
additional F-15EXs on its Unfunded Priorities List this year. How does 
the F-15EX--and the 12 additional aircraft you've requested, in 
particular--help the Air Force reorient toward strategic competition 
with China?
    General Brown. The F-15EX serves as a replacement for the aging 
single role F-15C and reduces near and mid-term risk by increasing the 
Air Force's 4th Generation Air to Air capacity as well as Air to 
Surface capability. There are several ways in which the aircraft 
improves the Air Force and Joint Force's ability to compete with and 
deter China. The aircraft provides the greatest payload capacity of any 
air superiority fighter and provides the most effective enhancement and 
enabler of the Air Force's 5th Generation Fleet. The F-15EX will also 
provide superior sensing, range, and payload in support of Critical 
Infrastructure Defense. The aircraft also improves the Air Force's 
ability to utilize long range weapons in a potential conflict with a 
near peer adversary. The F-15EX serves as a replacement for the aging 
single role F-15C and reduces near and mid-term risk by increasing the 
Air Force's 4th Generation Air to Air capacity as well as Air to 
Surface capability. There are several ways in which the aircraft 
improves the Air Force and Joint Force's ability to compete with and 
deter China. The aircraft provides the greatest payload capacity of any 
air superiority fighter and provides the most effective enhancement and 
enabler of the Air Force's 5th Generation Fleet. The F-15EX will also 
provide superior sensing, range, and payload in support of Critical 
Infrastructure Defense. The aircraft also improves the Air Force's 
ability to utilize long range weapons in a potential conflict with a 
near peer adversary.


 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         TUESDAY, JUNE 22, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                              NAVY POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Manchin, Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, Fischer, 
Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, 
Blackburn, and Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. I would like to call the hearing to order.
    The Committee meets today to receive testimony on the plans 
and programs of the Department of the Navy in review of the 
President's Fiscal Year 2022 Defense Budget Request. I would 
like to welcome our witnesses, Acting Secretary of the Navy, 
Thomas Harker; Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), Admiral Michael 
Gilday; and Commandant of the Marine Corps, General David 
Berger. We are grateful for your service, for the service of 
the men and women under your command, and for the support of 
all Navy and Marine families.
    The administration's defense budget request for fiscal year 
2022 includes approximately $211.7 billion in funding for the 
Department of the Navy, an increase of $3.7 billion from the 
fiscal year 2021 enacted budget. As the leaders of the Navy and 
Marine Corps, you face significant challenges as you strive to 
balance the need to support ongoing operations and sustain 
readiness alongside the need to modernize and sharpen the 
technological edge that is so critical to our military success. 
I would welcome an update from all of our witnesses on how they 
are balancing new concept implementation with the procurement 
of new systems and the upgrade of existing platforms, all while 
meeting current operational needs.
    Our naval forces are maintaining extremely high operations 
tempo across all areas. Demand is overwhelming for attack 
submarines, air and missile defense cruisers, destroyers, and 
strike fighter inventories. The Navy is now in its 8th year of 
operating with fewer than the legally required 11 aircraft 
carriers. The USS Gerald Ford is listed in the Navy inventory, 
but that carrier is more than 6 years behind schedule and not 
yet ready to deploy. While the Ford has been playing an 
important role in training aviators by conducting carrier 
qualification operations, she will not be ready to deploy for 
several more months. However, I am glad to see that the Ford 
has begun conducting full ship shock trials, an important step 
in the process for ensuring she is ready to engage in 
unrestricted operations.
    Looming on the horizon during the next decade, the Navy 
will also need to buy new Columbia-class ballistic missile 
submarines to replace the Ohio-class fleet. This is an 
expensive undertaking on a very tight schedule, and I trust the 
Navy is making every effort to keep this program on track, and 
I would ask for our witnesses to give an update.
    The Navy is using tools such as multiyear procurement 
authority to conduct its modernization programs more 
efficiently. Congress has approved multiyear procurement 
authority for both attack submarines and Aegis destroyers. 
These vessels represent the largest inventory shortfall against 
the goals of the 2016 Force Structure Assessment, with the 
actual Navy fleet 15 boats below the attack submarine goal and 
14 below the goal for destroyers.
    With that in mind, I am concerned that the Navy is breaking 
faith with Congress by submitting a budget that would break the 
multiyear contract for the DDG-51 destroyers. I understand that 
the number one item on the CNO's Unfunded Priority List is a 
second Aegis destroyer in fiscal year 2022. The Navy took a 
similar approach in fiscal year 2021 by asking for only one 
Virginia-class submarine, and then making the submarine the 
number one item on its Unfunded Priority List. That year, the 
second submarine was merely an option on the underlying 
multiyear contract, but in this case the absence of the second 
destroyer in the fiscal year 2022 budget would violate the 
terms of the current destroyer multiyear procurement contract. 
I would appreciate an explanation of this decision, and 
assurances that such actions of cutting a ship only to put it 
on the Unfunded Priority List is not a trend.
    The Marine Corps is restructuring around two concepts: 
Littoral Operations in a Contested Environment and 
Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations. The key element of 
these concepts is a more flexible amphibious force that can 
support a broader naval fight once ashore. Rather than simply 
acting as a landing force, the Marine Corps hopes to help 
control the sea and air around them in support of the Navy. To 
accomplish this, the Marine Corps is prioritizing modernization 
of its ground vehicles, including partnership with the Army on 
the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, or JLTV, to replace the 
Humvee, and targeted investments in the High Mobility Artillery 
Rocket System, or HIMARS, to provide Marines with ground-based 
indirect fire support. In addition, programs like the 
Amphibious Combat Vehicle, Ground-Based Anti-Ship Missiles, and 
Long Range Precision Fires will provide critical modernization, 
increased force protection, and enhanced lethality to marines. 
General Berger, while this restructuring has been ongoing for 
many months, due to COVID you have not really had an 
opportunity to explain it to a wide audience, and I invite you 
to do so at this hearing.
    Finally, 2016, Admiral Richardson released a force 
structure assessment that identified a new force structure 
goal, a fleet of 355 ships. Last year, we received, from 
Secretary Esper, what was portrayed as an updated assessment, 
which called for expanding the goal for the Navy fleet to 
include between 400 and 500 ships, with roughly 100 of these 
vessels unmanned.
    I would like to know how the Navy intends to maintain a 
fleet of 355 ships, or even 400 to 500 ships, when it is 
frankly unable to maintain the current fleet of 294 ships on a 
consistent schedule. Deferred ship maintenance, reduced 
steaming and flying hours, and cancelled training and 
deployments have created serious readiness problems within the 
Navy. We remember too well the collisions of the McCain and 
Fitzgerald and the loss of life that resulted. So I am 
interested in hearing about the progress the Navy is making in 
continuing to implement changes that will ensure such incidents 
will not happen in the future.
    Again, I want to thank the witnesses for appearing today, 
and I look forward to their testimonies.
    Now let me recognize the Ranking Member, Senator Inhofe.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank all of the 
witnesses for being here and for the great job they are doing. 
As we have said before, this is a lousy budget, but it is not 
the fault of these three people who are here today. They do not 
have a choice. They are doing what they are ordered to do, and 
I do not like it, and not many Members of this Committee like 
it, because this budget does not keep up with inflation, much 
less the 3 to 5 percent--if you read the book [National Defense 
Strategy (NDS) Commission Report--Providing for the Common 
Defense], this is what we go by, and we have since 2018, it is 
very clear where we should be today. Our increases in the 
military should be between 3 and 5 percent. It has been here, 
and we have talked about this for a long period of time. We are 
there and we are not doing it.
    So the budget like this sends China and our other potential 
adversaries the wrong messages, they are not willing to do what 
it takes to defend ourselves, our allies, and our partners. 
That is the message that they are getting from us.
    We should be worried about China for a multitude of 
reasons, but looking just at their navy, they passed our fleet 
size target of 355 ships last year, and will reach the 460 
ships by 2030. They are on schedule to do that. That is an 
increase of 105 ships in 10 years. Meanwhile, this budget 
supports, at best, the status quo U.S. Navy and Marine Corps. 
Our Navy is under 300 ships today, and there is no growth. In 
fact, while China is growing its fleet, our Navy is struggling 
to avoid shrinking, because right now that is what it is, along 
with the rest of the military.
    It is an unacceptable situation because our military is not 
being given the resources it needs. As I have said, this budget 
makes bad choices, not hard choices. For example, Admiral 
Gilday was forced to cut the destroyer, not because he does not 
need it and does not want it. He wants it, but he is forced to 
cut it. He did not have a choice.
    The budget also proposes to inactivate 15 ships, 10 of 
which have more years of service left. It buys 6 fewer F-35C 
Joint Strike Fighters than required, divests all 12 patrol 
craft, cuts Navy and Marine Corps munitions by roughly 10 
percent. As bad as this budget is, I am concerned about next 
year, that it will be worse.
    Secretary Harker, on June 4, you directed the Navy to 
defund nuclear sea-launched cruise missiles and prioritize the 
modernization of aircraft and ships. You had to make a choice 
between aircraft, ships, and submarines. China does not have to 
make a choice between aircraft, ships, and submarines.
    So we have got a lot of work to do. We have got a problem, 
and I think we all understand this.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. Mr. 
Secretary, your testimony, please.

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE THOMAS W. HARKER, ACTING SECRETARY 
                          OF THE NAVY

    Mr. Harker. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished Members of this Committee, thank you for your 
bipartisan efforts on behalf of the sailors, marines, and 
civilians in the Department of the Navy. I am honored to be 
here with General Berger and Admiral Gilday. I support their 
efforts to build a more integrated, all-domain naval force 
through the NAV (navigation) Plan and Force Design 2030.
    In order to move those plans forward within existing 
resources, we have had to make some very hard choices in this 
budget. But that is exactly what the American people expect us 
to do. Every dollar is a strategic asset that must be maximized 
to stay ahead of the pacing threat of China, and many other 
challenges facing our fleet and our union. Every investment 
must be done in a balanced and sustainable manner to ensure we 
maintain the readiness of our current fleet while building the 
capacity and capability we will need in the future.
    The cost of readiness is increasing. Maintenance costs have 
grown at a rate that is 2.5 percent above inflation. Personnel 
costs are also growing at a rate greater than inflation. This 
growth squeezes the rest of the budget. In order to maintain 
our readiness, we have had to delay some of our planned ship 
purchases to future years. In order to invest in a superior 
future for us, we had to divest of less capable assets. These 
were not easy choices.
    In order to ensure future availability and readiness of our 
fleet, we are prioritizing investments in our physical 
infrastructure, including full commitment to the Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Program. I have visited all four of 
our public shipyards, as well as most of the private shipyards 
and other commercial facilities. It has been an inspiration to 
shake the hands of the men and women who are building and 
maintaining our fleet and to speak with every level of labor 
and management about the issues they face and the need for 
consistency in funding and demand. That is why we are 
increasing the capability and resiliency of these century-old 
installations, increasing the size and capability of our dry 
docks, and equipping our 40,000-person workforce with the tools 
they need to maintain our new, more lethal assets.
    To ensure our resources reach the warfighters who need 
them, we are demanding rigorous self-assessment and responsive 
accountability, in every part of our enterprise, through the 
Performance To Plan initiative. This effort has improved 
readiness of our strike fighters and is being rolled out 
successfully across the fleets.
    As good stewards, we are on the right path towards 
obtaining an audit opinion for the Navy and Marine Corps 
general funds and the Department's working capital fund. We are 
the only Military Department that has eliminated audit material 
weaknesses--three in the Navy, one in the Marine Corps--and are 
leading the way on this critical effort inside the Department. 
This has enabled us to improve cybersecurity in our business 
systems. Since 2017, the Marine Corps has closed 41 out of 110 
IT [information technology] findings, 17 of which were 
cybersecurity related. We are also increasing investment in the 
Department's oversight functions while maximizing the return on 
our investment in the performance audit process.
    Effective use and management of data is key to our digital 
transformation and will change how we fight and win at every 
level. This requires the modernization of our information 
technology infrastructure, which is a critical warfighting 
priority for the Department.
    We are prioritizing the mental health of our force, 
speaking out at a senior level about the benefits of counseling 
and the availability of counselors, chaplains, and other 
professionals. We appreciate the Committee's attention to this 
vital issue and your support in providing additional mental 
health support to our sailors and marines in our forward 
operational units.
    We are fighting the scourge of sexual harassment and sexual 
assault through efforts like the The Watch List, a tool that 
uses Navy and Marine Corps data to alert commanders to 
conditions in their units that may lead to these toxic 
behaviors. We are increasing investment in this area, focusing 
on the prevention of, and response to, sexual harassment and 
assault. In this fiscal year 2022 budget we have added over 200 
personnel across the Navy and Marine Corps focused on 
prevention. The majority of these personnel will be placed at 
Navy and Marine Corps installations, working with sailors and 
marines. We are also adding an additional 80 sexual assault 
response coordinators for the Marine Corps, as well as 18 Navy 
criminal investigative service personnel dedicated to sexual 
assault prevention and response.
    We look forward to the findings of Secretary Austin's 90-
day Independent Review Commission and are committed to making 
meaningful and lasting progress on this issue.
    Around the world and around the clock, the sailors, 
marines, and civilians of our integrated force stand the watch 
and execute the mission. On behalf of each of them and their 
families, thank you for your time and dedicated oversight. I 
look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Harker follows:]

           Prepared Statement by The Honorable Thomas Harker
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, distinguished Members of the 
Committee, thank you for the opportunity to discuss the posture of the 
Department of the Navy (DON). I appreciate the hard work of the Members 
and Staff of this Committee to ensure funding stability and principled 
oversight for every sailor and marine now standing watch around the 
world.
    The reemergence of long-term strategic competition from China and 
Russia is spurring a period of rapid transformation in the global 
security environment. The disruptions related to the COVID-19 pandemic 
underscore the need for agility and distributed readiness. Climate 
change is accelerating, and its impact on both our planet and force 
will continue to grow as significant weather events threaten our 
infrastructure, and the arctic opens to unprecedented activity.
    In a world more interconnected and interdependent than ever before, 
a fully integrated and forward maneuverable Navy-Marine Corps Team has 
never been more important to the security of our Nation and the 
preservation of the rules-based international order. We must protect 
our Nation, our allies and partners, and our global interests, while 
also leading on the urgent issues facing our personnel and planet, from 
the mental and physical health care needs of our people, to the scourge 
of sexual assault and harassment, to the need for diversity and 
inclusion at every echelon, to the ongoing threat of climate change.
    General Berger, Admiral Gilday, and I stand united in our resolve 
to ensure your DON will be ready for the global challenges before us 
with the personnel, platforms, and technology to secure vital sea 
lanes, stand together with our allies, and protect the United States of 
America.
                           defend the nation
    The President's Budget submission for fiscal year 2022 (PB22) 
reflects hard choices to divest of less capable platforms and systems 
to invest in a powerful and superior future force. Throughout the 
budget process and in all aspects of capability acquisition, design, 
construction, and deployment, we must balance the urgent readiness 
needs of our force today with investments in the future force and 
effective business process reforms in order to ensure our sailors and 
marines are always ready to fight and win in any clime or place.
Force Posture
    The presence and availability of naval forces must always reflect 
the strategic needs of the Nation, providing effective options for the 
President and Secretary of Defense to counter every challenge. To 
ensure preparedness, the DON provides maximum operational flexibility 
through warfighting concepts including Distributed Maritime Operations, 
Littoral Operations in a Contested Environment, and Expeditionary 
Advanced Base Operations, ensuring continual overmatch and flexibility 
in the battle space.
    Secretary Austin has identified China as the pacing threat for our 
military forces, and we will continue to position our integrated global 
maritime force to lead in the Indo-Pacific. But ours is a global force 
with global responsibilities, including increased Russian presence in 
the Atlantic, terrorism and instability in the Arabian Gulf, an 
increasingly blue arctic, a global need for agile and ready Marine 
forces to respond to the unexpected in every domain, and the constant 
threat of cyberattacks to our force, support infrastructure, industrial 
base, and supply chain.
    The DON fiscal year 2022 budget request delivers ready maritime 
forces through sustained investment and performance improvement, 
developing more lethal, networked capabilities and concepts, closely 
integrated between the services and with our joint force and government 
partners. Within limited resources, we will field the right platforms 
and capability to maintain freedom of the seas, support international 
law, and stand by our allies as we continue to fly, sail and operate 
wherever international law allows.
    That spirit is reflected in the guidance put forth by our services. 
I support Admiral Gilday's Navigation Plan, which refocuses our 
integrated all-domain naval power on the core functions of sea control 
and power projection we need to compete and win. It places a high 
priority on a more lethal and better connected fleet to project power 
from blue water, to the littorals, to the shoreline and beyond.
    The guidance centers on four lines of effort:
      Deliver a More Ready Fleet. Deliver a Navy that is 
organized, trained, and equipped to deploy forward and win in day-to-
day competition, in crisis, and in conflict.
      Deliver a More Lethal, Better-Connected Fleet. Deliver a 
Navy capable of projecting synchronized lethal and non-lethal effects 
across all domains.
      Deliver a Larger, Hybrid Fleet. Grow a larger, hybrid 
fleet of manned and unmanned platforms--under, on, and above the sea--
that meets the strategic and operational demands of our force.
      Develop a Seasoned Team of Naval Warriors. Develop a 
dominant naval force that can outthink and outfight any adversary.
    To meet the forward maneuverable force requirements of the Joint 
Force long into the future, the Marine Corps has put into motion an 
aggressive modernization of the Service. I support General Berger's 
Force Design 2030, which is not simply an improvement on its existing 
form and function. It is a transformational effort rooted in the 
anticipated challenges of the future operating environment. Building on 
the cooperative efforts of all of our sea services, the Marine Corps is 
reinvigorating the Fleet Marine Forces within existing resource 
constraints as an indispensable element to global maritime operations.
    The goal of Force Design 2030 is to provide a Marine expeditionary 
assets that will:
      Successfully compete with peer adversaries in the 
maritime gray zone
      Deter, and if required, fight and win in support of naval 
campaigns
      Facilitate sea denial and sea control
      Win the reconnaissance and counter-reconnaissance 
competition
      Persist inside actively contested spaces
      Be capable of ``rapidly sensing, making sense of, and 
acting upon information'' inside an adversary's weapon engagement zone.
    Across both services and throughout the DON, we are executing force 
designs centered on Naval Expeditionary force deployment, giving us a 
sustainable edge and a resilient capability to deliver the integrated 
all-domain naval power required by the Joint Force. We are investing in 
the readiness of the integration-ready platforms to ensure continued 
freedom of action throughout the maritime domain, from amphibious and 
ground element equipment, to agile warships and submarines, to dominant 
aircraft carriers and air wings. Successful implementation of the 
concepts within the Navigation Plan and Force Design 2030 will be 
pursued through a unified, integrated effort at every echelon.
Maintain the Edge
    We greatly appreciate the Committee's efforts to ensure funding 
stability and predictability over the past several years. This has 
given our force the agility and flexibility needed to address emerging 
threats, to invest in critical future capabilities for our integrated 
naval force, while shifting away from less beneficial spending.
    The DON is building on this foundation by aggressively pursuing 
better readiness, lethality, and capabilities in those areas of 
warfighting technology showing the greatest promise of delivering non-
linear warfighting advantages. From artificial intelligence and cyber 
weapons to unmanned platforms and directed energy, we are on the cusp 
of technological breakthroughs that will define future conflict. Our 
future force will be defined by our decisions today.
    We will continue to invest in key naval capabilities to control the 
seas and project power in every domain. We will field a resilient, 
networked, and dispersed fleet, connected through the Naval Operational 
Architecture to provide decision advantage in contested environments. 
We will continue to invest in advanced technologies such as long range 
hypersonic and directed energy capabilities to ensure maximum reach, 
survivability and decision space for our forces.
    Our number one shipbuilding priority remains resourcing Columbia 
SSBN for on-track delivery in order to ensure the future strength of 
the most survivable leg of our Nation's nuclear triad. We are also 
advancing our asymmetric undersea attack advantage through the Tactical 
Submarine Evolution Plan, including follow-on Blocks VI and VII of the 
Virginia-class, and the SSN(X) program. We are advancing battle force 
shipbuilding programs such as the Constellation-class frigate and the 
Gerald R. Ford-class carriers, as well as enhancing our fleet 
capabilities through additional battle force ships.
    We are also extending the reach of our warriors from the sea with 
the addition of sea-based platforms such as USS Miguel Keith, our third 
Expeditionary Sea Base, which was commissioned on May 8th. To ensure 
our Marines maintain their edge, we will continue to invest in key 
Marine Corps development programs that support the Marine Corps Force 
Design concept, such as the Ground Based Anti-Ship Missile, Ground 
Based Air Defense, Medium Altitude-Long Endurance Unmanned Aerial 
System, Long Range Unmanned Surface Vessel, and the Light Amphibious 
Warship. These enhance the ability of Marines to maneuver and deter 
competitors within range of enemy weapon systems.
    Targeted investments in key emerging technologies and capabilities 
will enhance and sustain amphibious battlefield maneuverability ashore 
and superiority at sea, with the support of properly resourced 
facilities, infrastructure, and systems to sustain our frontline 
forces.
Continual Readiness
    Hard experience has shown long term readiness cannot be sustainably 
achieved through ``can do'' and ``make do'' improvisation. Our front 
line personnel may be determined, adaptive, and skillful enough to get 
the job done in the face of equipment shortfalls and intense battle 
rhythms, but relying on their adaptability is no substitute for genuine 
fleet readiness. We owe it to the sailors and marines out in the fleet 
to make sure they always have the tools they need to do the dangerous 
jobs we ask of them.
    The changes generated from the Readiness Reform and Oversight 
Council (RROC) and other introspective efforts have enabled us to 
improve readiness, training, and maintenance processes at every level. 
For example, we've implemented a uniform readiness assessment and 
certification process that must be followed before a ship can be 
certified to return to the fleet. We have also increased opportunities 
for shipboard certification and skills enhancement, while adjusting 
manning schedules to maximize safety and improve quality of life and 
professional effectiveness for our personnel while underway. These and 
many other changes will result in a better prepared and equipped force.
    We continue to build on our efforts to increase availability, 
improve maintenance, and maximize throughput, by making targeted shore 
investments designed to increase fleet readiness. The Navy's four 
public shipyards--Norfolk Naval Shipyard, Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, 
Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and Intermediate Maintenance Facility, and 
Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard and Intermediate Maintenance Facility--are 
critical infrastructure elements of America's national defense. In 
order to improve naval maintenance production capacity at these 
facilities, the DON is fully committed to the Shipyard Infrastructure 
Optimization Program (SIOP), comprising three primary focus areas: dry 
dock recapitalization, facility layout and optimization, and capital 
equipment and modernization. The DON is dedicating the resources and 
oversight necessary to ensure the required maintenance is completed 
across all shipyards as quickly as possible, and has established a 
Program Office (PMS-555) to ensure integration of all elements of the 
plan.
    Building on the successful Naval Aviation Enterprise efforts to 
meet Strike Fighter aircraft availability goals for both the Navy and 
Marine Corps, we are targeting greater aviation readiness across the 
force, incorporating commercial best practices to improve performance. 
Through the Performance to Plan initiative we're using data driven 
decision making to enable to remove the root causes of maintenance 
delays as well as operational mishaps. This data-driven approach is 
based on a ``Get Real, Get Better'' approach, demanding rigorous self-
assessment, strong characterization of current performance, and 
detailed analysis backed by accountability and the opportunity to 
implement needed improvements.
    We appreciate the Committee's interest in ensuring our Naval forces 
have the right facilities to train, fight, and win, even as various 
demands on the land, sea, and air reduce the available area for 
military training. Specifically, we are grateful for the Committee's 
continued attention to the urgent need to expand the Fallon Training 
Range Complex, which is necessary to the readiness of every Naval 
Aviator and Navy SEAL. We are listening to the interests of Tribal 
governments, environmental organizations, and the local community, as 
well as our counterparts across the Federal Government, and are 
committed to finding a favorable solution for everyone involved.
Combat Climate Change
    The United States Navy and Marine Corps recognize the reality of 
global climate change, our responsibility to mitigate our contribution 
to it, and our need to prepare for its short and long-term effects. As 
we grapple with the effects of climate change on maritime operations 
around the globe, the DON must continue to lead and find ways to go 
farther, both in substantially reducing our impact on climate change 
and building a force that is resilient to its potential effects.
    We must adapt our infrastructure for the coming changes with 
initiative and problem solving throughout the DON. In the past few 
months I have visited and recognized several Marine Corps and Navy 
installations that have demonstrated leadership in climate resiliency, 
environmental stewardship, and sustainable development. These 
facilities include Parris Island, Naval Base San Diego, Marine Corps 
Air Base Camp Pendleton, and Naval Base Point Loma. We will continue to 
invest in vehicles, infrastructure, and technology that increase our 
resiliency and efficiency, as we pursue the use and availability of 
alternative fuels. The DON is determined to lead from the front against 
the threat of climate change.
                        take care of our people
    The greatest source of readiness and strength for our force will 
always be the people who wear the uniform and comprise our civilian 
workforce, as well as the families that serve alongside them. We are 
committed to ensuring our sailors, marines, and civilians are trained 
and equipped to execute the mission and return home safely, and that 
their families are provided with the housing, medical attention, and 
education they deserve.
Building the Future Force
    To maintain a Fleet prepared to fight and win in long term 
strategic competition, we continue to evaluate and improve our 
capability to attract, retain, and develop a talented and diverse 
workforce. In the context of an intense competition for talent in our 
country, and in light of the rapidly evolving tactical and technical 
landscape, we are modernizing and enhancing our entire talent 
management approach to succeed.
    We are continuously identifying opportunities for personnel to 
develop their leadership skills throughout the ranks, promoting equal 
opportunity in every aspect of our force. The DON is investing in the 
training, education, and professional development of our officers, 
enlisted personnel, and civilian teammates with special emphasis on 
partnerships with civilian institutions to enhance educational 
opportunities for our junior sailors and marines.
Eliminate Toxic Behaviors
    It is a personal priority for all three of us to build a climate of 
trust, respect and inclusion throughout our force. A major focus of 
that effort must be on recognizing and stopping destructive behaviors 
early and consistently, so leaders at every level can take appropriate 
and effective actions.
    We remain determined to eliminate sexual assault, sexual 
harassment, and gender discrimination from every part of our force. 
These behaviors are a betrayal of those who have stepped forward to 
serve in uniform. We will continue to work with this Committee to share 
best practices and ideas, relentlessly pursuing a future where no 
sailor, marine, or civilian teammate ever has to fear for their own 
safety while protecting us all.
    To assist leaders in this effort, we have developed The Watch List: 
Top Five Signals of Risk for Sexual Assault, a research-driven tool 
that used Navy and Marine Corps data to identify five of the key 
destructive behaviors that increase risk for sexual assault. These 
include sexual harassment, gender discrimination, lack of 
responsibility and intervention, lack of respect and cohesion, and 
workplace hostility behaviors. We have promulgated The Watch List 
throughout the Navy and Marine Corps and are actively working to 
develop tools that will provide operational commanders data on their 
units so they can take action to prevent incidents.
    We are actively engaged in rooting out extremism throughout our 
force. In coordination with efforts across the joint force, the DON has 
conducted ``Extremism Stand Downs'' at every echelon. This process 
sparked important conversations and made the position of our leadership 
and force clear to every sailor, marine, and civilian in the DON, and 
we will continue to build on these efforts.
    Trust is at the heart of all our warriors do. Extremist ideologies 
are a strategic threat to that trust and have no place within the Navy 
and Marine Corps. We will persistently focus on this problem, and 
appreciate this Committee's partnership and involvement in this 
critical effort.
    As leaders we must do all in our power to ensure that our people 
feel respected and valued. We cannot and will not tolerate 
discrimination or racism of any kind. Our core values and oath demand 
that we critically examine all of our policies and practices to remove 
inequity and unconscious bias.
Promote Mental Health
    Mental health is a critical aspect of our readiness as a force--and 
our responsibility to our warriors and their families. We have made it 
a priority to ensure the ready availability of mental health 
professionals, chaplains, family counselors and other support 
professionals when our people are in need--or when they see the need in 
others.
    I know from personal experience how helpful counseling can be 
during both personal and professional struggles. That's why as part of 
our recognition of May as Mental Health Awareness Month, I launched a 
series of videos encouraging leaders throughout the DON to share their 
personal stories of seeking and receiving counseling and help. I also 
emphasized this point to our newest officers at the US Naval Academy 
Commissioning Ceremony, and will continue promoting mental health care 
throughout the force. We have to remove the stigma and start the 
conversation, particularly as our warriors and their families contend 
with the added stressors related to COVID-19.
    The DON is committed to ensuring the health, safety, and well-being 
for all members within our military community. The loss of any sailor, 
marine or civilian to suicide is one too many. The DON offers a variety 
of suicide prevention efforts, encouraging positive help-seeking 
behaviors, eliminating stigma, and increasing visibility and access to 
critical resources. We are constantly revisiting and revising the 
portfolio to meet the needs of our people, and have increased our 
investment in this area.
Take Care of Our People
    We are reforming operating procedures and promotion practices to 
reward initiative, applied problem solving, and innovative thinking at 
every level. A top priority as we evaluate personnel practices are the 
needs and challenges of military families, particularly dual service 
families. Senior leaders are also taking a personal and hands-on 
approach to ensure enduring excellence in housing, dependent education, 
and other quality of life concerns for our military families.
    Through a combination of non-monetary, quality of life, and 
customer service programs, we are increasing our responsiveness to the 
needs of the individual warfighters and their families, making 
continued service a viable and attractive option. We are expanding 
opportunities for civilians with prior service through the Targeted 
Reentry Program. We are also expanding avenues for personnel to learn, 
operate, and innovate with partners from the private sector, across the 
joint force, and alongside our allies.
Defeat COVID-19
    With consistent personal and fleet discipline and continued 
refinement of best practices, we have ensured a robust, proactive, and 
coordinated COVID-19 response across the DON. We are preventing and 
containing outbreaks with minimal impact on fleet readiness, and are 
doing everything in our power to get the vaccine out to our sailors, 
marines and civilians as quickly and effectively as possible.
    The DON is also working with the Federal Emergency Management 
Agency to assist local, state, and Tribal governments in the overall 
vaccination effort of the Nation, building on the proactive 
contributions to the urgent medical and security needs of the American 
civilian population, including the deployment of COMFORT and MERCY to 
our Nation's two most populous cities, and the deployment of medical 
personnel to facilities in communities across the country.
    Like all Americans, the Navy and Marine Corps have adjusted to this 
global pandemic, from addressing outbreaks aboard ships, to changes in 
recruitment and training, to supporting our military families through 
extended deployments and virtual leaning. We have invested significant 
resources to upgrade the Navy and Marine Corps intranet to improve 
functionality and to enable telework for our military and civilian 
workforce.
    The Navy and Marine Corps continue to operate under Force Health 
Protection measures to protect marines, sailors, civilians, 
contractors, and our military families. Across the DON, we've 
implemented flexibilities to help minimize risk to military personnel 
and their families, respond to evolving situations, and ensure the 
readiness of our force. We continue to use active testing protocols to 
detect asymptomatic COVID-19 positive personnel, contain outbreaks 
aboard vessels, and conduct surveillance to detect and treat the 
disease as early as possible.
    We will not relent in these critical measures. We are well 
positioned to emerge stronger than ever, as the pandemic has forced us 
to rethink and refine our recruitment, training, and personnel 
movements across the DON, as well as our shipyard operations, 
deployments, and maintenance schedules, with efficiencies and 
applications of technology that can continue to benefit our operations 
and throughput long after COVID-19 is in our wake.
                        succeed through teamwork
    A dominant naval force is central to the effective execution of our 
strategic goals. We must be ready at all times to execute as one 
integrated naval force--Navy and Marine Corps seamlessly linked at 
every level--with common logistics, infrastructure, practices and 
support networks--executing a fleet-wide emphasis on resilient and 
combat ready forces. These integrated connections must extend beyond 
the DON as well, encompassing our vital partners across the joint force 
and the whole-of-government, as well as our industry partners, 
shipyards, and allies and partners around the world.
Trust and Collaboration
    Leaders throughout the DON are actively engaged with the joint 
force and the whole-of-government to meet the maritime challenges that 
face our Nation. One key initiative of this collaboration is the Tri-
Service Maritime Strategy, Advantage at Sea. This is was truly 
collaborative maritime strategic planning effort led jointly by all 
three of our Nation's sea services--Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast 
Guard. In order to execute these goals, Admiral Gilday, General Berger, 
Admiral Schultz and I are working together in order to promote 
integration, communication, and collaboration as a warfighting 
priority. There can be no daylight between us as we strengthen the 
integrated all-domain Naval power of the United States.
Operationalizing the Audit
    In my previous roles as Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 
Financial Management and Comptroller, and while Performing the Duties 
of Comptroller for the Department of Defense, I saw first-hand the 
importance of effective, transparent examination and oversight, and I 
witnessed the direct relationship of accountable financial controls to 
our frontline strength. In my current role as Acting Secretary of the 
Navy, I am determined to strengthen this process in order to provide 
our Congressional oversight partners with complete visibility and 
accountability for every dime.
    Central to this effort is building on the findings of our financial 
statement audit process, and improving that process moving forward. As 
I've emphasized to senior leaders across the Navy and Marine Corps, the 
audit is Commander's business. Accurate inventory, proper resource 
allocation, redundancy elimination are all directly connected to our 
end strength.
    We are on the right path towards obtaining an audit opinion for the 
Navy and Marine Corps general funds, and the DON working capital fund. 
We have a detailed roadmap that will guide our effort, placing a strong 
emphasis on budgetary reform, including receipt, distribution, 
execution, and monitoring.
    The President's Budget 2022 increases investment in DON oversight 
functions. In addition to our work on the financial statement audit, we 
are looking at ways to increase effective oversight going forward, 
removing redundancy and duplication of effort in every part of our 
enterprise through the performance audit process. I have met with 
leaders across the government and the DOD to discuss audit planning and 
understand areas of high risk, and am incorporating that feedback into 
the fiscal year 2022 audit priorities direction provided to the Naval 
Audit Service and our internal control program under the Federal 
Managers Financial Integrity Act and OMB Circular A-123. Our top 
priority is to ensure that our oversight capabilities and capacity is 
as efficient and effective as possible in order to keep our promise to 
the American taxpayer and the warriors on the frontline.
Sustaining Maritime Information Superiority
    Leaders in every functional unit and discipline have been directed 
to set business systems modernization on an integrated path that is 
sufficiently resourced and supported across the DON. We are using data 
driven decision-making to achieve tangible savings while consistently 
working to become more effective and more efficient.
    Modernization of our information technology infrastructure is a 
critical warfighting priority for the DON. Effective use and management 
of data is key to our digital transformation, and will change how we 
will fight and win at every level. We are consolidating legacy systems 
and will have moved from ten financial systems to three by the end of 
this fiscal year. I have established top-down performance management 
efforts, driven by data, to ensure the cyber resilience and strength of 
our defense business and warfighting networks.
    As an information age naval force, every DON warfighting function 
and mission area is dependent on data and information to rapidly inform 
decision-making throughout the entire competition to conflict 
continuum. The dependency on secure and reliable IT has grown 
exponentially over the last decade and is critical to maintaining a 
competitive warfighting advantage. Simply put, information is combat 
power.
    In order to generate and sustain that power, the DON is building on 
the findings of our Cybersecurity Readiness Review with an Information 
Superiority Vision, detailing how the Navy and Marine Corps will:
      Modernize our infrastructure to bring the DON to parity 
with industry, move data and information from anywhere to anywhere 
securely.
      Innovate and leverage emerging technology including 5G 
and Artificial Intelligence to drive capability outcomes for 
competitive advantage at speed.
      Defend forward with robust information protection 
regardless of where data resides.
    Through Operation Flank Speed, the DON is shifting enterprise 
collaboration and productivity services to an enduring cloud-based 
Microsoft Office 365 solution which will provide world-class security 
and collaboration tools to improve productivity across our distributed 
workforce.
    This initiative will modernize our infrastructure to a more cloud-
enabled, performant, and defendable network allowing data and 
information to move from anywhere to anywhere securely. It will also 
improve our overall cyber readiness posture by implementing key Zero-
Trust-Architecture principles; securing devices and endpoints, 
establishing identity and user privileges, and introducing content and 
data rights management.
    The Marine Corps has now completed the transition of all users to 
Microsoft Office 365, and I have directed the transition of over 
470,000 users in the Navy no later than December 31, 2021. Flank Speed 
will create the capabilities needed to increase Naval lethality and our 
ability to fight and win.
    Failure to invest now will result in this effort now would further 
delay much needed improvements to our core technology infrastructure 
and leave the workforce without a sustained follow-on capability once 
the DOD-provided Commercial Virtual Remote capability is sunset in June 
2021, extending our reliance on outdated, duplicative and less secure 
legacy IT systems that cost more and deliver less, further eroding 
DON's competitive warfighting advantage.
Strengthen Relationships with Stakeholders
    Working alongside our vital industry partners, we are aligning our 
efforts to produce the right platforms and capabilities for the 
warfighter, and ensure maximum availability and throughput from design 
to production to maintenance.
    We're working closely with our partners and suppliers in the 
defense industrial base to ensure the continued viability of the 
crucial businesses and infrastructure needed to ensure our ships, 
aircraft, and ground equipment are available when needed for the 
defense of our Nation, both during the current COVID-19 challenge and 
long into the future. A robust, resilient, and nimble industrial base 
and supply chain is critical to the long term strength of our Navy and 
Marine Corps. Funding predictability and long term planning are key 
elements in ensuring the efficiency of our acquisitions and maintenance 
processes in partnership with a supply chain calibrated to deliver 
maximum value to the taxpayer and warfighter.
    At our public shipyards, the DON took aggressive steps at the start 
of the COVID-19 pandemic to implement and require safety measures to 
protect the personnel, civilians, contractors, and families. These 
steps have included maximum telework opportunities for shipyard 
employees, administrative leave for high-risk individuals unable to 
telework, altered shifts to maximize social distancing, sanitization 
and hand-washing stations throughout the shipyard, cloth face coverings 
and face shields for the workforce, and screening checks at all 
workplace entry points.
Global Engagement
    We cannot meet the global challenges our Nation faces alone. 
Readiness requires presence and rapid capabilities in every part of the 
world, as well as specialized and localized knowledge to handle 
evolving and challenging situations. The strategic maritime defense 
partnerships we maintain today with our partners and allies extend the 
reach and power of our force. They underscore the importance of 
cooperation and coordination in maintaining the rules-based 
international order that enables so much of our global prosperity and 
security.
    Our personnel regularly train and operate alongside their foreign 
counterparts, test the interoperability of our systems, and build our 
collective readiness on the front lines of great power competition. 
Operational exercises, international port calls, joint Marine force 
training, and other interactions generate the personal contact that 
builds understanding, respect, and trust across national and functional 
lines. Our sailors, marines and civilian personnel know that through 
their service they are front-line diplomats for our Nation. Their 
professionalism and dedication promotes the connections that strengthen 
our collective security and cultivate shared ideals that send the 
message that the United States is a friend worth having.
                               conclusion
    Our sailors, marines, and civilian teammates will always be our 
greatest source of strength in a challenging and changing world. On 
behalf of each of these brave patriots and the families that serve at 
their side, I once again thank the leadership and membership of this 
Committee for your attention, interest, and ongoing commitment to the 
defense of the United States of America. It is an honor to work with 
each of you, and I look forward to your questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. Admiral 
Gilday, please.

  STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL MICHAEL M. GILDAY, USN, CHIEF OF NAVAL 
                           OPERATIONS

    Admiral Gilday. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today alongside Secretary Harker and 
General Berger. I am thankful for the enduring support that 
this Committee provides the greatest navy in the world.
    I do believe this hearing comes at a critical time for our 
country. The competition at sea is intensifying. China and 
Russia are rapidly mobilizing their militaries, attempting to 
undermine our alliances and degrading the free and the open 
order. The Chinese battle force is the largest in the world, 
and it is growing. Backed by a robust industrial base and the 
biggest shipbuilding infrastructure in the world, they command 
a modern fleet of surface combatants, submarines, aircraft 
carriers, amphibious assault ships, and next-generation 
fighters.
    Furthermore, they are strengthening their space 
capabilities and stockpiling an arsenal of long-range missiles 
to hold us and our allies and partners at risk. China is 
deliberately modernizing for the 21st century, and is building 
all-domain capabilities to rival our own.
    Make no mistake. Our fleet can control the seas in conflict 
and project power ashore today, but we will be increasingly 
challenged to do so in the future unless hard choices are made. 
The results of analysis over the past 5 years, inside and 
outside the Pentagon, have been consistent and they have been 
clear--America needs a larger, more capable fleet. Importantly, 
our latest study gave us the headlights not only for the size 
but also for the composition of that force. We need to 
transition away from older, less capable platforms and deliver 
the platforms and systems that provide overmatch. At the same 
time, we need to grow.
    However, our Navy faces the task right now of 
recapitalizing our strategic nuclear deterrent, something we 
have not done in 40 years, and we are making a once-in-a-
century investment in our public shipyards--long overdue--while 
preserving our current readiness so the fleet can confidently 
operate forward and be relevant.
    Nearly 70 percent of the ships that we have today we will 
have a decade from now. We have to take care of the ships that 
we own, but the price tag on that readiness is rising. Over the 
past two decades, manpower, operations, and maintenance costs, 
which make up almost 60 percent of our budget, have grown at a 
rate, as the Secretary mentioned, 2.5 percent above the rate of 
inflation. Meanwhile, the Navy's buying power is less than it 
was in 2010. Back then we had 288 ships. Today we have 296. 
Given these factors, if the Navy's top line remains flat or if 
it goes down, the size of our fleet will definitely shrink.
    Nevertheless, we are determined to deliver the most ready, 
the most capable, and the most lethal Navy we can with the 
budget that we are given. To do this, we are improving 
maintenance in our shipyards and aviation depots, we are 
ensuring our ships are properly manned, that our magazines are 
filled with ammunition, spare parts are in our storerooms, and 
our sailors are getting the steaming days and the flying hours 
that they need to hone their skills.
    We are working hard on a more robust, resilient network 
infrastructure as part of JADC2 [Joint All-Domain Command and 
Control]. We are investing in long-range precision fires like 
hypersonics and Tactical Tomahawk, and we are developing 
directed energy systems to improve fleet survivability.
    Our eye is on the larger hybrid fleet. The investments in 
our shipbuilding account reflect the rigorous analysis we 
conducted last year as well as the needs of our combatant 
commanders, who are determined to build affordable capacity, 
which includes a deliberate approach to uncrewed vessels. We 
are making sure that every sailor can outthink and outfight any 
adversary by scaling our 21st century training framework, and 
also our live virtual constructive training.
    Senators, the average age of the Chinese fleet is 11 years. 
Ours is 21. It is time to move decisively and field the future 
Navy. We must modernize now, in this decade, or we will risk 
falling behind. We need to keep a forward posture that 
maintains America's safety and prosperity.
    I am extremely proud of our sailors, our Navy civilians, 
and our families who sustained a historic, high OPTEMPO 
[Operational Tempo] in the midst of this pandemic. They are the 
source of our strength, as are the patriots in our shipyards 
and our aircraft depots, and our partners in industry, 
companies large and small, who keep the production lines 
moving.
    Again, I am grateful for this Committee's support to the 
Navy and the Marine Corps team. I look forward to answering 
your questions. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Gilday follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Admiral Michael M. Gilday
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, distinguished Members of the 
Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today on the 
posture of the United States Navy. Moreover, on behalf of all our 
sailors, Navy civilians, and their families, thank you for your 
continued leadership and support. With the funding provided by Congress 
these last several years, we are building back our readiness, 
strengthening our advantages at sea, and keeping our fleet deployed 
forward where it matters.
    This hearing comes at a critical time for our country. Multiple 
nations are working to undermine the free and open rules-based 
international system that has benefited so many for so long. Our rivals 
are rapidly modernizing their militaries to erode our advantages. The 
COVID-19 pandemic threatens the health and livelihood of our people. 
Climate change puts our coast lines at risk with rising seas levels and 
more severe weather. And the maritime environment--a vital source of 
our Nation's prosperity and protection--has become increasingly 
contested. America's Navy is ready to meet these challenges. As we have 
done since our founding, we will set sail to defend our Nation, take 
care of our people, and succeed through teamwork.
    The President has made it clear--America stands at an inflection 
point. The choices we make today will have a dramatic impact on the 
future of our Nation. The very nature of the free and open 
international system is threatened. To defend our Nation, safeguard 
economic opportunity, and secure the blessings of liberty for years to 
come, we must renew our enduring advantages and work in concert with 
our allies and partners to secure the rules-based order at sea.
 america is a maritime nation--our people depend on the freedom of the 
                                  seas
    The United States Navy--alongside the Marine Corps and Coast 
Guard--provides a unique, enduring advantage to the American people. 
Since our Nation was founded, Americans have relied on the seas for 
prosperity and protection. For 245 years, our Navy has deployed forward 
to ensure safe passage for our commerce and to keep fights far from our 
shores. Since the end of World War II, we have sailed with like-minded 
navies to build and sustain the open, rules-based international system 
at sea. Together, we have provided stability, deterred great power war, 
and ushered in prosperity for billions across the world.
    Over time, our reliance on the seas has only grown. Today, 90 
percent of global trade by volume travels by sea, facilitating $3.7 
trillion in U.S. commerce annually and supporting 31 million American 
jobs. Ninety-five percent of global internet traffic travels along 
undersea cables, fueling our digital economy and accounting for $10 
trillion of financial transactions every day. The free flow of 
commerce--both physical and digital--cannot be taken for granted. It 
relies on the rules-based international system at sea and unimpeded 
access to markets through open waterways. Even minor disruptions can 
have extraordinary impacts. The recent grounding of the container ship 
Ever Given in the Suez Canal, which delayed hundreds of ships and cost 
the global economy an estimated $9.6 billion per day, highlights the 
importance of predictable passage through the world's strategic 
waterways. If a rival nation attempted to control passage through the 
South China Sea--a strategic location where $208 billion of U.S. 
commerce flows annually--the impact to the global economy would be 
extremely costly.
      
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    Meanwhile, the competition for offshore resources such as 
aquaculture, energy, and rare-earth minerals is increasing across the 
globe. Currently, 93 percent of the world's fishing stocks are 
overexploited, threatening a major protein source for 3.3 billion 
people. Several nations have deployed distant water fishing fleets and 
expanded the use of maritime militias in their quest to maintain their 
lucrative fishing industries. Additionally, many nations are 
increasingly looking to maritime sources of energy and mineral wealth. 
The global oil and gas industry, which generates an estimated $3.3 
trillion in annual revenue, is turning toward energy exploration along 
the seafloor to extract untapped reserves. With trillions of dollars in 
raw resources awaiting discovery on the unmapped ocean floor, states 
and multinational companies are racing to develop capabilities for 
deep-sea mining.
    The world's oceans have always been a wellspring of wealth and 
prosperity. Today, and in the years ahead, they pose an increased risk 
of competition turning into conflict.
 the growing challenge to the united states and the open international 
                                 system
    Despite benefiting from free and open seas for decades, the 
People's Republic of China (PRC) and Russia are currently working to 
undermine the rules-based international system at sea. Both are 
attempting to control access to key waters and the resources that lie 
within these waters, inhibiting freedom of the seas and overflight. 
Both are intimidating their neighbors and attempting to enforce 
unlawful claims with the threat of force. Both are expanding 
sophisticated networks of sensors and long-range weapons to hold 
important waterways at risk. Both are leveraging offensive cyber 
tactics to advance their competitive advantage, illegitimately 
obtaining U.S. intellectual property to close research and development 
gaps and disrupt our industrial base And both are attempting to replace 
the free and open international system with a more unilateral and self-
serving one by turning incremental gains from their malign actions into 
long-term advantages--such as militarizing contested features in the 
South China Sea or illegally annexing the Crimean peninsula.
    The PRC's and Russia's revisionist approaches at sea threaten 
United States interests, undermine alliances and partnerships, and 
degrade the free and open international order. Moreover, the PRC's and 
Russia's aggressive naval growth and modernization are eroding United 
States military advantages. Unchecked, these trends will leave the Navy 
unprepared to ensure our advantage at sea and protect national 
interests within the next decade.
      
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    The PRC--our pacing challenge--is carrying out a strategy aimed at 
the heart of America's maritime power. They are deliberately working to 
erode maritime governance, inhibit freedom of the seas and overflight, 
deter our engagement in regional disputes, and displace the United 
States as the partner of choice across the world. To achieve its 
strategic goals, the PRC has rapidly grown its Navy from 262 to 350 
ships. Today, their fleet includes modern surface combatants, 
submarines, aircraft carriers, amphibious assault ships, and polar 
icebreakers. Expanding their robust naval force with a hundreds of 
Coast Guard and maritime militia vessels, they routinely harass 
neighbors to exert pressure at a level below traditional armed 
conflict. They have built the world's largest missile force to target 
regional waters in an attempt to intimidate others. They have 
strengthened all dimensions of military power to contest the United 
States from the seafloor to space and in the information domain. Under 
the One Belt, One Road Initiative, they are extending their maritime 
infrastructure across the globe through aggressive investments, 
particularly in ports, to control access to critical waterways.
      
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    As our United States Indo-Pacific Commander recently stated, the 
greatest danger for America and our allies is the erosion of our 
conventional deterrence with respect to the PRC. Absent a convincing 
conventional deterrent, the PRC will continue to take action to 
undermine the free and open conditions at sea upon which our citizens 
rely. While the PRC is expanding its influence across the globe, this 
challenge is most acutely present in the Indo-Pacific, including the 
East and South China Seas and increasingly in the Indian Ocean. History 
shows that a strong U.S. Navy provides a stabilizing influence across 
the world, assists in peaceful maritime dispute resolution, and expands 
economic opportunities for the American people. The future will prove 
no different.
   u.s. navy--deployed forward to defend america and our allies and 
                    protect the freedom of the seas
    The U.S. Navy is responding to the challenges to our free and open 
international system by demonstrating our global reach, enforcing 
common principles, sustaining the conditions that enable shared 
prosperity, strengthening our alliances and partnerships, and 
modernizing our fleet to control the seas in conflict and project power 
in contested environments. Today, over 42,000 sailors are deployed on 
111 ships and submarines to preserve freedom of the seas, deter 
conflict, and keep America and our allies safe. Together with the 
Marine Corps and Coast Guard, our Navy is delivering integrated all-
domain naval power across the globe. And we are doing this in the midst 
of a global pandemic.
      
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    Even with many parts of the world shut down in response to COVID-
19, the worldwide demand for naval forces required us to maintain a 
high operational tempo, which included eight major Carrier Strike Group 
and Expeditionary Strike Group deployments in fiscal year 2020. Since I 
appeared before you last year, the Navy has continued to steam and fly 
from the Arctic Circle to the Cape of Good Hope and from the Caribbean 
to the South China Sea. Our hospital ships provided relief to American 
communities; we executed underway training events for deployment 
certification; and we conducted exercises as part of the Joint Force 
and alongside our allies and partners. Our ability to sustain a forward 
posture rests on the individual commitments of over 600,000 sailors and 
Navy civilians and their families. Their adaptive spirit and commitment 
to COVID-19 protocols kept the force healthy and our ships at sea.
    The pandemic taught us a great deal about operating in a 
challenging environment. Our entire force learned how to adapt as we 
iterated and honed our COVID-19 Standardized Operational Guidance. Our 
logistics teams learned what it means to sustain our fleet with limited 
means. Our information technology workforce quickly scaled virtual 
private network licenses and supported the roll-out of virtual and 
remote environments to keep us connected. Our dedicated, patriotic 
shipyard and aviation depot workforce adapted to our COVID-19 
protocols, came to work, and got our ships and aircraft back to sea. 
And we learned how brittle portions of our defense industrial base 
could be if not postured appropriately. We took every opportunity to 
learn throughout this dynamic year--and shared those lessons with our 
allies and partners--to improve the resiliency of our Navy in the years 
ahead.
    We certainly did not address the challenges of continued maritime 
operations during this pandemic alone. Our broader Navy team--which 
includes Congress, industry, research institutions and laboratories, 
and our international allies and partners--overcame so much to design, 
build, and sustain our fleet through this pandemic. We cannot thank all 
of you enough. As our Nation--and the world--emerges from this 
pandemic, we will continue to face the daunting challenge posed by 
long-term competition with the PRC and Russia. And we will need your 
support, now more than ever, as we modernize and recapitalize the Navy 
to sustain our enduring advantage at sea.
           timeless roles of sea control and power projection
    American security and prosperity is underpinned by the U.S. Navy's 
ability to control the seas and project power ashore in conflict. The 
world would be a less prosperous, more dangerous place if the seas were 
not open and free for the benefit of all. Every day, combat-credible 
naval forces operate forward to reassure our allies and partners, 
confront malign behavior, and deter potential adversaries from 
escalating into conflict. We preserve a stable and secure global 
maritime environment and advance prosperity through transit, trade, and 
the lawful pursuit of natural resources. Our ability to carry out these 
essential functions comes from our ability to credibly control the seas 
and project power ashore in conflict. These missions are timeless.
    Controlling the seas protects friendly shipping, provides the Joint 
Force and our allies freedom to maneuver, and denies the use of the 
seas to our adversaries. In the past, sea control required us to fight 
our adversaries on, under, and above the sea. Now, in our digital age, 
it requires us to also fight in space, cyberspace, and across the 
electromagnetic spectrum. In short, modern sea control demands the all-
domain power of our Navy and Joint Force.
    America also needs a Navy that can influence events ashore. This 
starts with deterring nuclear attack against our Nation with our 
ballistic missile submarines--the most survivable leg of the nuclear 
triad. Projecting power and influence from the seas is vital to 
deterring aggression and resolving crises on acceptable terms to the 
United States. Our Navy must field capabilities in all domains--
employing information warfare, cyber capabilities, special operations, 
and a host of conventional weapons launched from on, under, and above 
the sea--to convince our rivals they have no viable means of achieving 
their objectives through force. Our sea control and power projection 
capabilities, alongside our strategic deterrent, provide America and 
our allies their surest guarantee of peace. If the Navy fails to 
deliver a fleet that can control the seas and project power, our Nation 
will lack the conventional deterrent needed to protect America and our 
allies and expand economic opportunities for the American people.
    While America's need for sea control and power projection 
capabilities has not changed over time, how we operate and what we 
operate with is changing. Emerging technologies have expanded modern 
fights at sea into all domains. Ubiquitous and persistent sensors, 
advanced battle networks, and long range weapons have made contested 
spaces more lethal. Advances in artificial intelligence have increased 
the importance of achieving decision superiority in combat. 
Additionally, autonomous systems have shown promise for an effective 
and affordable way for us to fight and win in contested spaces. These 
technologies offer clear advantages to the militaries that integrate 
them first. America cannot afford to fall behind.
    Meanwhile, our fleet is adapting to operate in new ways. To 
preserve and promote the rules-based order, we are taking a more 
assertive posture in daily operations. We are challenging excessive 
maritime claims by sailing and flying wherever international law allows 
and expanding our decision advantage by persistently monitoring 
activities at sea to expose malign behavior that undermines the rules-
based order. Our cyber teams are actively defending our networks and 
projecting power in the cyber domain to maintain a tactical advantage 
against our rivals. Furthermore, we are dynamically deploying our 
forces forward to deter our rivals from making incremental gains and to 
work alongside our allies and partners to keep the seas free and open.
    Should deterrence fail, our Navy stands ready to confront 
aggression and decisively win a fight. Using concepts such as the Joint 
Warfighting Concept and Distributed Maritime Operations (DMO), we will 
mass sea- and shore-based fires from distributed forces. By maneuvering 
distributed forces across all domains, we will complicate adversary 
targeting, exploit uncertainty, and achieve surprise. Controlling the 
seas by constraining or destroying adversary fleets will enable freedom 
of movement at sea and power projection ashore. Working with the Joint 
Force and our allies and partners, Navy submarines, aircraft, and 
surface ships will launch massed volleys of networked weapons to 
overwhelm adversary defenses and compel a termination of conflict on 
favorable terms. Delivering an all-domain fleet that is capable of 
effectively executing these concepts is vital to maintaining a credible 
conventional deterrent with respect to the PRC and Russia.
                   delivering all-domain naval power
    To deliver the all-domain naval power America needs, our Navy must 
evolve our capabilities and grow our capacity. The Navy--working in 
close collaboration with the Joint Force--has studied, identified, and 
prioritized the future capabilities we need to execute our evolving 
warfighting concepts and maintain a credible deterrent with respect to 
the PRC. The PRC has invested heavily in anti-access capabilities. In 
conflict, they will seek to contest all domains and hold our forces at 
risk with sophisticated networks of sensors and a large number of long-
range, precision weapons. To effectively deter the PRC as part of the 
Joint Force, our fleet must be imbued with distributed weapons of 
increasing range and speed, more magazine depth, more mobility, more 
stealth and deception, and more sustainability. This requires a 
deliberate adjustment to our naval force structure.
    Based upon multiple rigorous, threat informed assessments conducted 
over the past five years--both inside and outside the Navy--it is my 
best military advice that America needs a larger Navy to counter the 
People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) that is growing in both capability 
and capacity. To fill critical Joint Force demands, the Navy requires 
greater numbers of submarines, smaller and more numerous surface 
combatants, more lethal offensive capabilities, a host of integrated 
unmanned platforms--under, on, and above the seas--and a modern 
strategic deterrent. We also need a robust network infrastructure to 
link our distributed forces together and resilient logistics to sustain 
them. In short, a balanced, hybrid fleet of manned and unmanned 
platforms is the most effective and affordable way to meet the security 
demands of our Nation.
    Analysis has also confirmed that numbers are not the only factor--
the composition and combat effectiveness of our fleet matters more. 
Naval power is not a function of ship numbers alone, nor is it simply a 
result of the lethal systems employed from those ships. It comes from 
the concepts that shape how we fight and the means to maintain, train, 
and equip our forces to win in combat. And it fundamentally comes from 
developing sailors--the true source of our naval power--who can 
outthink and outfight and adversary.
    Within the scope of the President's Fiscal Year 22 Budget request, 
we are maximizing our Navy's contribution to the Joint Force. We are 
prioritizing a fleet that is ready for combat over a larger fleet that 
is not ready to fight. We are divesting of legacy assets that do not 
bring sufficient lethality to the fight and investing in next-
generation platforms and systems that close critical Joint capability 
gaps. Meanwhile, we are prioritizing the training and education needed 
to prepare our sailors to outthink and outfight any adversary. And we 
are using every dollar we can to sustainably grow the fleet. As we 
prepare our fleet for long-term competition with the PRC, we are 
focused on key objectives in the following areas--readiness, 
capabilities, capacity, and our sailors.
                               readiness
    To sustain America's advantage at sea, we must deliver combat-ready 
forces to deter aggression and keep the seas free and open. Deploying 
battle-ready ships, submarines, and squadrons around the world--from 
the South China Sea to the Arctic--deters aggression, reaffirms our 
commitment to allies and partners, and keeps the seas open and free. 
Readiness underpins our forward-engaged posture and touches all 
elements of the Navy, from our shipyards and aviation depots to the 
steaming and flying hours our sailors use to hone their skills. With 
nearly 70 percent of the fleet we will have in 2030 already in service 
today, affordably sustaining our ships and aircraft is vital to meeting 
future demands. This is why President's Budget 2022 places such an 
emphasis on critical components of our Navy's readiness.
    Our force is in a higher state of readiness today than prior to 
2017 with a healthier surge force, improved shipboard manning, better 
training for our crews, and improved parts availability. Increased 
funding, combined with cultural reforms throughout the fleet, have 
arrested the decline in our readiness and put us on a path to recovery. 
Still, we have much work to do.
    Deploying combat-ready forces starts with taking expert care of our 
platforms. To this end, we are using data-driven reforms to improve 
maintenance processes, increase operational availability, and save 
taxpayer dollars. We have seen tremendous success with these methods in 
our aviation community. For years our F/A-18 aircraft were stuck at a 
55 percent mission capable rate. At the time, we assumed only an 
increase in inputs--aircraft, manpower, or parts--could raise the 
number of ready jets available to our pilots. However, in fiscal year 
2019 we shifted our focus to cultural reform and used the power of 
data-analytics to raise our F/A-18E/F mission capable rate to 80 
percent--a rate we have continued to maintain throughout all of fiscal 
year 2020 and into fiscal year 2021. With higher numbers of aircraft 
available, our aircrew are more ready to fly and fight than at any 
point over the last decade.
    We are now applying a similar approach to improving ship 
maintenance. On-time private shipyard surface ship availability 
completion rates rose from 37 percent in fiscal year 2019 to 67 percent 
in fiscal year 2020. Meanwhile, public shipyards reduced maintenance 
delay days by over 75 percent from fiscal year 2019 to fiscal year 
2020. To generate these gains, we modified contracting strategies, 
increased dry dock capacity, and optimized facility and pier layouts. 
We improved planning and adjusted maintenance durations to better align 
workload with shipyard capacity. We also leveraged authorities provided 
by Congress, such as the three year ``Other Procurement, Navy'' pilot 
program, to increase flexibility and stabilize demand for our shipyard 
workforces.
    Unfortunately, COVID-19 impacted our recent ship depot maintenance 
gains--as the need to protect our people caused delays in on-time 
completion of ship maintenance. Half of our maintenance availabilities 
in both public and private shipyards are trending late due to workforce 
capacity reductions. To mitigate further impacts in our private 
shipyards, we accelerated awards of contract options and improved the 
cash positions of the industrial base. For our public shipyards, we 
mobilized over 1,300 skilled Navy Reserve sailors, increased overtime 
usage, and rebalanced future workloads to address these delays. These 
efforts have stemmed the disruption COVID-19 caused to our shipyard 
maintenance and will mitigate work spilling over into fiscal year 2022. 
We are methodically and safely returning to normal operating 
conditions. Though some delays will continue to persist until the 
shipyards return to full strength, the production workforce in both 
public and private shipyards is returning to pre-pandemic levels.
    Sustaining our advantage at sea requires us to make targeted 
investments in critical infrastructure. This includes ensuring our 
worldwide constellation of bases are postured to sustain and support 
our fleet at sea. Of particular importance are critical elements of our 
national defense industrial base such as our public shipyards and 
aviation depots. Our Shipyard Infrastructure and Optimization Program 
(SIOP) provides a strategic roadmap for necessary investments in dry-
docks, capital equipment, and optimizing the layout of these vital 
national assets. We have already broken ground on a perimeter floodwall 
at Norfolk Naval Shipyard, and are building a new lock system at 
Portsmouth Naval Shipyard with many more projects on the horizon. We 
are also recapitalizing our aviation depot infrastructure. Through our 
Naval Aviation Fleet Infrastructure Optimization Plan (FIOP), we are 
developing a 10-year Master Plan that provides our aviation depots the 
capacity to sustain and modernize our aircraft, engines, components, 
and support equipment. Meanwhile, we are also transforming our Navy 
enterprise shore network infrastructure into a secure, resilient 
digital platform.
    Sustaining our advantage also requires us to master all-domain 
fleet operations. To credibly deter aggression, we must integrate the 
all-domain power of the Navy with the Joint Force and our allies and 
partners. This starts with providing our sailors adequate ranges to 
train for the high-end fight. The speed and scale of a potential fight 
for control of the seas has changed. The size of our premier Carrier 
Air Wing and SEAL training center--the Fallon Range Training Complex 
(FRTC)--is no longer sufficient. Within existing capacity, our sailors 
cannot sufficiently train with longer-range weapons or practice the 
tactics and techniques they will need to employ against a near-peer 
threat. We will continue to work with Congress, tribal leadership, 
local communities, and key stakeholders in the year ahead to modernize 
the FRTC and ensure our sailors have the infrastructure they need to 
train to win in combat.
    Mastering all-domain fleet operations also requires a rigorous 
learning campaign. We are conducting a series of fleet battle problems, 
wargames, and exercises to refine our concepts and capabilities. For 
example, we recently conducted our most complex exercise to date 
involving unmanned systems, which brought unmanned surface vessels and 
aircraft under the control of a Zumwalt-class destroyer--the USS 
Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001). This summer we will conduct Large Scale 
Exercise 2021--bringing together our fleets from across the globe to 
test out key components of our DMO concept. Overall, our campaign of 
experimentation and learning prepares our sailors for high-end 
warfighting and drives updated joint concepts, fleet requirements, and 
future naval capabilities.
    Sustaining our advantage at sea depends on developing, training, 
and fielding battle ready surface force crews. As of the end of 2020, 
we have fully implemented all 111 Comprehensive Review/ Strategic 
Readiness Review recommendations. Over 1,700 junior officers have now 
graduated from our new Junior Officer of the Deck course with training 
aligned to International Maritime Organization's standards. We are 
broadening the use of instructor-led virtual reality training through 
the construction of two Mariner Skills Training Centers and the 
modernization of our Integrated Navigation Seamanship and Ship handling 
Trainers. With the support of Congress, we are investing in and 
employing meaningful reforms in how we man our surface fleet, train our 
crews, schedule and execute workups and deployments, and how we equip 
and maintain the surface force.
    We will continue to invest in these key priorities and drive 
maximum efficiency from every dollar to deliver the naval power America 
needs. We are currently meeting operational demands while adapting to 
protect our sailors and their families. But readiness recovery remains 
a long game and will require sustained funding over time to fully 
recover.
                              capabilities
    To sustain America's advantage at sea, we must deliver a more 
lethal and better connected fleet. The fight at sea is evolving 
rapidly. Emerging technologies have expanded into all domains and made 
contested spaces more lethal. Artificial intelligence and machine 
learning, autonomy, quantum computing, additive manufacturing, and new 
communications technologies are transforming the maritime environment. 
These changes emphasize the need for the Navy to develop sea control 
and power projection capabilities at speed and scale. That means more 
lethality, more survivability, better combat logistics, and a resilient 
network that connects command and control nodes, platforms, weapons, 
and sensors all together.
    President's Budget 2022 prioritizes capabilities that amplify the 
fleet's ability to disperse and project synchronized lethal and non-
lethal effects from multiple axes and in all domains. To achieve this 
vision, we are developing a Naval Operational Architecture (NOA) that 
integrates with Joint All-Domain Command and Control. The NOA is a 
collection of networks, infrastructure, data, and analytic tools that 
connects our distributed forces and provides decision advantage. Beyond 
recapitalization of our undersea nuclear deterrent, there is no higher 
development priority. We launched Task Force Overmatch this past 
October to align resources and expertise from across our force to field 
the NOA by the middle of this decade.
    Developing longer-range, higher-speed weapons--such as hypersonic 
missiles--will give our warfighters the competitive advantage they 
need. Hypersonic missiles change the risk calculus for our rivals by 
providing a non-nuclear sea-based prompt, global strike capability. We 
are working in close partnership with the Army to deliver a truly-
joint, conventional hypersonic weapon across land and sea-based 
platforms. We conducted a successful test of our common hypersonic 
glide body in March 2020, which keeps our Conventional Prompt Strike 
program on-track to field this game changing capability by the mid-to-
late 2020s. President's Budget 2022 signals our strong support for 
developing this vital joint capability.
    Our adversaries are attempting to deter us with massive numbers of 
sea- and shore-based missiles. To complicate their ability to 
understand the potential battlespace, we are investing in Counter-
Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Cyber, Intelligence, 
Surveillance, Reconnaissance, and Targeting systems. Our response also 
includes fielding an inexhaustible directed-energy system that 
accurately and reliably defeats anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCM). The 
High Energy Laser Counter ASCM Project is expediting the development of 
critical technologies to protect our ships from the cruise missile 
threat. At the same time, we are pursuing other directed energy 
initiatives in parallel--such as the 150 kilowatt class laser weapon 
system--to accelerate learning and fielding of this critical 
capability. The recent demonstration onboard USS Portland showed how we 
can disable an unmanned aerial vehicle using directed energy. We will 
continue to invest in laser technology and non-kinetic defensive 
systems to increase fleet survivability while maintaining free magazine 
space for our offensive weapons.
    Our logistics enterprise and strategic sealift capacity are also 
vital to sustaining our advantage at sea and keeping the Joint Force 
operating forward. Accordingly, we are modernizing networks and 
communication and navigation systems of our Combat Logistics Force to 
best posture this aging fleet to operate in a contested environment. We 
are also investing in increased fuel distribution capacity as well as 
improvements in our expeditionary rearm capabilities and resuscitative 
care surgery systems. Specific to the Sealift Fleet, which provides 
inter-theater lift capability to the Joint Force, we have accelerated 
recapitalization, leveraging a ``buy used'' strategy to replace our 
least ready vessels, and invested in service life extension for the net 
effect of increased readiness. We are grateful for Congress's 
authorization to affordably revitalize our Sealift Fleet with used 
vessels. We are moving ahead with purchasing two used ships in 2021 and 
five used vessels in President's Budget 2022, signaling our continued 
support for this approach. We will continue to work with Congress to 
efficiently recapitalize this critical capability in the years ahead 
and request that Congress remove remaining obstacles to used ship 
procurement. Our longer-term plan is to construct new vessels to 
replace prepositioned vessels in the Maritime Prepositioning Force as 
those ships begin to reach expected service life at the end of this 
decade.
    Pivoting toward the future and resourcing needed capabilities--
especially in the Indo-Pacific region--requires tough choices. To 
invest in the next-generation capabilities we need to meet the 
challenge of near-peer competitors, we need to divest of our legacy 
capabilities that no longer bring sufficient lethality to the fight. We 
will work transparently with Congress to make these critical divestment 
decisions and free up resources to modernize the fleet.
                                capacity
    To sustain America's advantage at sea, we must field a larger, 
hybrid fleet that is designed for sea control and power projection. To 
provide a credible conventional deterrent in peace and win in war, we 
need to sustainably generate cost-effective platforms and mature 
unmanned systems. This transition will increase the capacity of the 
fleet, expand our ability to distribute our forces, and rebalance the 
fleet away from exquisite, manpower-intensive platforms and toward 
smaller, less-expensive ones. By growing a hybrid fleet--on, above, and 
below the seas--we will ensure our success across the continuum of day-
to-day competition, crisis, and conflict.
    As we design and build a larger, hybrid-fleet, our number one 
acquisition priority remains delivering the Columbia-class ballistic 
missile submarine on time. No mission is more important to our Nation 
than providing a secure and reliable strategic nuclear deterrent. Our 
ballistic missile submarines are the most survivable portion of our 
nuclear triad and provide an assured response to any strategic nuclear 
attack on the United States. With our Ohio-class submarines nearing the 
end of their service life, we cannot afford to get behind in delivering 
on the Columbia program. The first submarine is starting construction 
this year with the second boat on-track for procurement in fiscal year 
2024. We will continue to drive affordability, technology development, 
and integration efforts to ensure the program remains on schedule and 
our ballistic missile submarines remain on patrol in the decades ahead.
    Meanwhile, our future fleet places a premium on expanding our 
undersea advantage. During conflict, sea control and sea denial from 
beneath the waves are among our Navy's core advantages--we cannot 
afford to yield any ground to our competitors. We are now planning to 
construct the tenth Block V Virginia-class submarine with a Virginia 
Payload Module (VPM). President's Budget 2022 underscores our sustained 
support for procuring two Virginia-class submarines per year. 
Sustainable production of the Virginia-class submarine, in addition to 
the development of a follow-on attack submarine program, is key to 
sustaining our undersea advantage in the years ahead.
    As we shift our focus toward smaller platforms that can operate in 
a more dispersed manner, there is a clear need to rapidly incorporate 
unmanned systems into our fleet architecture. They expand our 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance advantage, add depth to 
our missile magazines, enhance fleet survivability, and provide more 
risk-worthy vessels to operate inside the weapons engagement zone of 
any adversary. In other words, they give our operational commanders 
flexible and effective options to maneuver within a contested 
environment. The Navy is taking a deliberate approach to developing 
unmanned systems through our Unmanned Campaign Framework. Our framework 
lays out an overarching vision on how we intend to produce tested and 
proven systems at scale, as well as develop the core technologies 
required to successfully integrate unmanned systems on, below, and 
above the sea. By the end of this decade, our sailors must have a high 
degree of confidence and skill operating alongside proven unmanned 
platforms. The combined capability of manned and unmanned systems will 
provide our operational forces the advantage we need in a future fight.
    Nuclear powered aircraft carriers are the most survivable and 
versatile airfields in the world. For decades to come, they will remain 
a cornerstone of the Navy's forward presence, sea control, and power 
projection capabilities. USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) represents a 
generational leap in the aircraft carrier's capacity to project power. 
Over the past year, Ford has been underway, executing over 7,100 total 
launches and recoveries with the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System 
and Advanced Arresting Gear. Additionally, over 30,000 pounds of 
ordnance has been moved, loaded and expended by embarked F/A-18 
aircraft using Advanced Weapons Elevators (AWEs). Seven of Ford's AWEs 
have completed certification and the remaining four are on track to 
certify by this summer. We expect Ford to be cleared for blue water 
operations later this year and ready for employment in 2022.
    The striking power of our Carrier Air Wing is vital to controlling 
the seas and projecting power in a high-end fight, and the adaptability 
of the air wing keeps our carriers relevant for 50-plus years of life. 
The air wing of today is currently transforming with the addition of 
the F-35C, the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, and the CMV-22B Osprey. 
President's Budget 2022 increases our F-35 inventory to get the fleet 
closer to a fourth generation and fifth generation fighter mix. Carrier 
Air Wing TWO--which includes the first operational F-35C squadron--is 
currently undergoing pre-deployment training and will deploy later this 
year. Meanwhile, we are rapidly developing the MQ-25 Stingray--the Air 
Wing's first unmanned platform--to extend the striking range of our 
fleet. And we are laying the groundwork for the highly networked air 
wing of the future--a 6th generation family of systems that leverages 
manned-unmanned teaming--which will deliver overwhelming firepower in 
contested spaces in the years ahead. Delivering a 6th generation family 
of systems is vital to keeping pace with PRC fighter development and 
sustaining our advantage over the seas. America cannot afford to fall 
behind.
    We are also going through a surface combatant reset on ship design 
and construction to provide the next enduring hull forms for small and 
large surface combatants. Our surface combatant inventory is aging with 
limited options for future upgrades. At the same time, our future fleet 
design places an emphasis on greater numbers of small surface 
combatants. The Constellation-class frigate is a versatile, multi-
mission platform capable of supporting day-to-day operations and the 
high-end fight. We began cutting steel on Constellation this year, and 
we are excited to incorporate this ship into the fleet in 2026. 
Meanwhile, the future large surface combatant (DDG(X)) will bring the 
space, weight, and power needed to incorporate future capabilities for 
the high-end fight such as high power lasers, long-range strike, and 
sensor growth. Together, both ship classes will bring more lethality, 
more survivability, more endurance, and more self-sufficiency to the 
fleet.
    We are not just building better ships--we are building ships 
better. The Navy is mindful of past shipbuilding efforts that did not 
perform to plan, which is why we are moving ahead in ways that 
deliberately reduce risk. Early and sustained industry involvement, 
robust land based testing, and focused design maturity are foundational 
to our shipbuilding approach. We appreciate the strong support from 
Congress in fiscal year 2021. Delivering ships on time, on budget, and 
within performance targets is our priority.
                                sailors
    To sustain America's advantage at sea, we must recruit, develop, 
and retain a seasoned team of naval warriors. The strength of our naval 
power depends on the strength of our sailors--active and reserve, 
uniformed and civilian. In the long-term strategic competition we face 
today, every sailor must be able to outthink and outfight any 
adversary. Our Navy must remain the best trained, finest educated, and 
most ready maritime force in the world. We recognize the strength we 
gain from a diverse force and our actively pursuing combat-minded 
sailors with varied backgrounds, experiences, and thought to build up 
our readiness and resilience. As we take care of our sailors, we will 
accelerate their development and harness their talents to keep America 
safe and prosperous.
    As we modernize our fleet, we are modernizing our talent management 
systems to better recruit, train, retain, and support our sailors. We 
achieved our accession goal of 39,600 new Active Duty sailors in fiscal 
year 2020 to further improve afloat manning and filled operational 
billets to their highest point in six years. President's Budget 2022 
makes a slight reduction in our end-strength with the divestment of 
legacy ships. However, the demand for a highly trained, diverse force 
has not abated. We are grateful to Congress for the generous pay raises 
and personnel reforms. The Navy is leveraging both--alongside our 
talent management initiatives--to better recruit and retain our 
incredibly talented force. Meanwhile, we continue to transform our 
MyNavyHR infrastructure to rapidly deliver services to our sailors and 
families at a reduced cost. This includes the DOD-leading mobile 
applications that help with the challenge of military moves and finding 
childcare or housing and the MyNavy Career Centers which proved vital 
during the COVID-19 pandemic.
    We are continuing to cultivate a culture of excellence across the 
fleet, which builds resilience and strengthens our Navy's enduring 
standards of professional competence and personal character. Over the 
past year, our culture of excellence campaign has strengthened the 
signature behaviors that define our service to prevent the occurrence 
of destructive behaviors--such as sexual harassment or discrimination. 
At the same time, we have maintained a resolute focus on preventing the 
scourge of sexual assault within our ranks. President's Budget 2022 
increases our civilian Sexual Assault Prevention and Response workforce 
to provide greater support for our sailors and drive down investigation 
timelines. Overall, we are providing more training, more tools, and 
more resources so every sailor receives the support they need.
    We are also actively building a workforce that represents the full 
diversity of America and the strength it brings. Task Force One Navy 
(TF1N) was launched last year to analyze and evaluate issues in our 
military that detract from Navy cohesiveness and readiness. The task 
force released their report in January 2021 and highlighted 56 
recommendations that will elevate a culture of diversity, equity, and 
inclusion throughout the fleet. Respect and the promise of opportunity 
are core to our Navy, and we are committed to implementing TF1N reforms 
and ridding discrimination, sexism, and other forms of structural 
biases from our ranks.
    Without a doubt, the vast majority of sailors in the U.S. Navy 
serve every day with honor, character, and integrity. However, we 
cannot be under any illusions that extremist behaviors do not exist in 
our Navy. As directed by the Secretary of Defense, each command across 
the fleet conducted a stand down to address extremism within our ranks. 
Racism, injustice, indignity, and disrespect keeps us from reaching our 
potential--an inclusive, respectful, professional fighting force that 
answers the Nation's call with unparalleled readiness and lethality. 
The stand down was only a starting point; this will be an ongoing 
fight. We are committed to eliminating extremist behavior and all of 
its corrosive effects on our fighting force.
    The intellectual investments we make in each sailor provide a key 
advantage over our rivals. To strengthen our advantage in this area, we 
are aligning the curriculum and research of the Navy's education 
enterprise to deliver warfighting advantage in our operations at sea 
and in how we design, deliver, and generate our forces. Additionally, 
the Naval Community College is on track to provide our sailors 
opportunities for education in fields that strengthen the service. 
Maintaining educational relationships with our international partners 
through exchanges and scholarships remains a priority for us to deepen 
enduring relationships and broaden understanding between likeminded 
navies.
    To ensure our sailors are ready for any challenge on the horizon, 
we are scaling Ready Relevant Learning (RRL) and Live, Virtual, 
Constructive (LVC) training. RRL provides the right training, at the 
right time, in the right way for our sailors. It replaces ``one-and-
done'' classroom training events with career-long learning continuums 
through a mix of in-classroom instruction and modern training methods. 
LVC technology blends the intensity of underway operation with high-
fidelity synthetic training, allowing our sailors to master high-end 
tactics in secure and controllable conditions. Our force will always 
fall back to their baseline under the stress of combat--RRL and LVC 
will raise their baseline.
                               conclusion
    Let there be no doubt--America is a maritime nation. Our security 
and prosperity are inextricably linked to the seas. For 245 years--in 
both calm and rough waters--your Navy has stood the watch to protect 
our homeland, preserve the freedom of the seas, and defend our way of 
life. For generations, we have provided a bulwark against aggression 
and have underwritten the international order that led to an 
unprecedented era of peace and prosperity. Now that order is under 
threat.
    As the President stated, we are at an inflection point. The PRC's 
rapid military growth and aggressive behavior at sea has put it on a 
trajectory that will challenge our maritime advantage in the years 
ahead. Our naval forces--and the American people--must maintain a 
clear-eyed resolve to compete, deter, and--if necessary--defeat our 
rivals, while accelerating the development of a larger and more lethal 
future fleet. We must do so while integrating more closely with the 
Marine Corps and Coast Guard to generate integrated all-domain naval 
Power. Only by working as a team and taking care of our people will we 
be able to defend the Nation in the years ahead. We must move 
deliberately, but also with speed. Our actions this decade will shape 
the maritime balance of power for the rest of this century.
    On behalf of more than 600,000 active and reserve sailors and Navy 
civilians, thank you for giving me the opportunity to testify today. I 
am grateful to this Committee, and to all of your colleagues in 
Congress, for your steadfast commitment to the Navy. We look forward to 
sailing alongside you to sustain our advantage at sea.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Admiral Gilday. General 
Berger, please.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL DAVID H. BERGER, USMC, COMMANDANT OF THE 
                          MARINE CORPS

    General Berger. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, over the past couple of 
years, since becoming Commandant, I have come to better 
understand and appreciate the bipartisan support of this 
Committee, which is critical to creating and sustaining the 
force that we have today but also to build the force that we 
are going to need for the future.
    Now I realize, as we all do, that there are competing 
national priorities that you have to wrestle with, and that 
certainly puts pressure on defense budgets. But I am also 
confident that you have a clear view of the severity of the 
security environment around us.
    As the Secretary mentioned, the competition with China and 
Russia is increasing and it is accelerating, and your military 
is going to need more advanced capabilities in order to 
effectively compete, to reassure our allies and partners, and 
to effectively deter war.
    Force Design 2030 is the Marine Corp's answer to creating 
the cutting-edge capabilities that will better enable the fleet 
and the Joint Force to deter, to compete, and to respond with 
ready forces to any crisis, anywhere on the globe. To be clear, 
force design is the centerpiece of a broader, systemic 
modernization effort, as the Chairman pointed out, across the 
Marine Corps, one that improves more than just our equipment 
and our warfighting formations, but also our personnel systems, 
our training systems, and our family programs as well.
    We are roughly 2 years into this modernization effort, and 
I feel I owe this Committee an update. While we do not have 
sufficient time this morning to address every detail, I do want 
to touch on three areas that are key.
    First, we have improved the operational reach and the 
efficacy of our naval expeditionary forces, and this includes 
the Marine Expeditionary Units, the MEUs, which remain the 
crown jewel of the force. Beginning last year, we started our 
transition to a mixed capability of long-range ship and ground-
based unmanned aerial systems, including the MQ-9 Reaper. This 
will significantly expand the organic ISR [Intelligence, 
Surveillance, and Reconnaissance] capabilities, and it will 
enable us to support both naval and joint operations, including 
anti-submarine warfare.
    We have also initiated a partnership with industry to 
develop a future autonomous, long-range, unmanned surface 
vessel. That is going to extend the reach of our MEUs. That 
vessel will give us a new tool for maritime gray zone 
competition, and it will help in thickening the C5ISR [Command, 
Control, Communications, Computers, Combat Systems, 
Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance] network, as we 
call it, and it will help us in conventional deterrence, naval 
deterrence, using loitering munitions.
    Lastly, we are aggressively pursuing organic precision 
fires for our infantry, also with loitering munitions, and we 
will make a final decision on vendors this year.
    Second, we have made significant advancements across our 
training and education enterprise. In the past 16 months, we 
released the first new doctrine we published in 20 years, 
actually two publications, one on learning and one on 
competing. We have also significantly advanced the intellectual 
framework for some of our future operating concepts. Earlier 
this year, we published a tentative manual for Expeditionary 
Advanced Base Operations, and we will use that to inform our 
exercises, our experimentation, and our training.
    We have significantly expanded the resources we tie to 
wargaming and to experimentation. Last month, down in Quantico, 
Virginia, we broke ground on a new, state-of-the-art war-gaming 
center that we will use in the future.
    Finally, we have dramatically enhanced both the quality and 
the duration of training for our infantry marines. Infantry 
training is now 50 percent longer, and we added new modules to 
increase lethality.
    Third, we have taken some important initial steps to 
improve our personnel system and our policies. To continue 
attracting the highest quality men and women into our Marine 
Corps, we raised both the AFQT [Armed Forces Qualification 
Test] standards for enlistment and the ASVAB [Armed Services 
Vocational Aptitude Battery] requirements for the infantry. Our 
enlisted performance evaluation system was antiquated. It was 
subjective. It was completely manual. We have now replaced that 
system with a cloud-based system, where marines are evaluated 
now based on clearly defined, objective standards that are 
under their control, and they can see across the force.
    We revised our retention policies. Now qualified marines 
can re-enlist a full year early, and I have delegated two 
commanders in the field the authority to re-enlist qualified 
marines on the spot.
    Recognizing the strong connection between the health of our 
force and the support of our families, we revised out parental 
leave policies. Now they include adoptive and same-sex parents, 
and I will continue to push for expanded maternity leave for 
all marines. While it may seem like a modest accomplishment to 
some this year, we updated our maternity uniforms to improve 
both their utility and their professional appearance.
    So while I am encouraged by the progress of Force Design, 
as well as our other modernization initiatives, I am not 
satisfied with the pace of change. We must move faster. To 
accelerate our programs, we, as a service, need to do a better 
job of explaining the details of Force Design 2030 to members 
and to your staffs, and that is my responsibility as your 
Commandant.
    Last week, I offered to the House Armed Service Committee 
that I would be willing to testify on Force Design before the 
full committee, as well as the Appropriations Committee, if 
committee chairs would find that valuable, and I make the same 
offer here, Chairman.
    It is critical that we build a shared understanding about 
where your Marine Corps is headed and why, and how your support 
is absolutely essential to our success. Equally important I 
believe is explaining how we are going to pay for it all.
    During a recent speech at the Ronald Reagan Institute, 
Chairman Reed noted that belt-tightening, in any department, is 
always a challenge, but it also provides an opportunity to 
evaluate what is necessary, and I agree. In today's challenging 
budget environment, the Marine Corps has pursued a cost-neutral 
approach for the last 2 years to Force Design. We have self-
funded our modernization. To ensure the success of this 
approach, I will ask your support for reducing the total 
procurement of some platforms, commensurate with the current 
reduction in our end strength. The fact is, today's Marine 
Corps is significantly smaller than it was 10 to 12 years ago, 
almost 24,000 marines smaller, and we simply will not need as 
many ground vehicles, will not need as many aircraft as we did 
when the initial procurement decisions were made a decade ago. 
It is simple math.
    So with the reductions outlined in our Force Design report 
I believe we will have sufficient resources to create the 
modern capabilities required for competition, for deterrence, 
and for crisis response, without a further reduction in our end 
strength.
    I welcome the opportunity to work with this Committee, and 
I look forward to your questions, both in this hearing and in 
the weeks that follow. Thank you, sir.
    [The prepared statement of General Berger follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General David H. Berger
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Inhofe, and distinguished Members of 
this Committee, thank you for this opportunity to present the annual 
report on the Marine Corps. More importantly, thank you for your 
continued support and leadership over this challenging year. I believe 
strongly that major change in existing force structure and ways of 
doing business are needed in this era of renewed great power 
competition. The strategic environment the Marine Corps and joint force 
operate in has changed, as has the domestic context as a result of the 
ongoing COVID-19 and related relief measures. We must therefore make 
appropriate adjustments to our investment plans to ensure a proper 
return on the taxpayers' investment. The promotion and sustainment of 
the Marine Corps that our Nation and fleets will need in 2030 and 
beyond requires your continued active support.
    Since testifying last year, our Nation has engaged in a long 
overdue conversation on race and social justice sparked by several 
visible incidents of institutional racism, and perhaps more 
importantly--how to remedy the inequities of the present. As with all 
other Americans, I--and every other marine--have acknowledged these 
challenges, and will continue to do our part to overcome them once and 
for all. While confronting issues of inequality, we have simultaneously 
endured the adverse consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic. Like 
millions of others, marines and their families across the country and 
globe suffered the consequences of isolation, closure of our public 
schools, and increased childcare demands; and like those millions of 
other Americans, marines made the necessary sacrifices to stop the 
spread. I am proud of every one of those marines with their collective 
leadership and of their ability to rapidly adapt and lead by example.
    Our Nation witnessed a small but violent minority attempt to 
subvert the rule of law through an overt act of violent coercion on 
January 6, 2021. Like most every other American, I was shocked by this 
attack on our democracy. I was even more dismayed to learn that some of 
those engaged in that attack had previously served in the military--to 
include the United States Marine Corps. Thankfully, we as a nation and 
military have done as we always do--learned, endured, and grown 
stronger. We have and will continue to actively work to identify 
recruits and marines who hold extremist views and we look forward to 
participating in the Secretary of Defense's new Countering Extremism 
Working Group to develop additional methods of keeping extremists from 
within our ranks.
    Over the past year, I have continued to communicate my 
understanding of the future demands of naval expeditionary warfare and 
maritime gray zone competition. Related to the future of naval 
campaigns, I have articulated a case for change to reinforce and expand 
existing naval warfighting advantages and create future strategic 
advantages. It is abundantly clear that a future operating environment 
characterized by a maturing and proliferating precision strike regime 
will place heavy demands on our Nation's Naval Services. We are not yet 
organized, trained, equipped, or postured to meet those demands and 
support fleet operations. This is no longer a controversial assertion 
as it was when my predecessor first uttered it. The vast majority of 
defense professionals--including the Members of the bipartisan Future 
of Defense Task Force--perceive the same challenges I do in the 
emerging operating environment, as well as the urgent need for real 
innovation and rapid change in response. Although there is an ongoing, 
healthy debate about how and what we should change across the Armed 
Services, there are very few lining up to defend the status quo. We 
must continue to discuss these changes, but defense professionals have 
almost unanimously acknowledged that real change is required--and soon.
    Though some things require substantial change, we should be clear 
to acknowledge those foundational tenets which remain as relevant and 
operationally suitable today as they have been over the previous 70 
years. In 1952, Members of Congress noted the Marine Corps ``can 
prevent the growth of potentially large conflagrations by prompt and 
vigorous action during their incipient stages. The nation's shock 
troops must be the most ready when the Nation is least ready . . . to 
provide a balanced force-in-readiness for a naval campaign and, at the 
same time, a ground and air striking force ready to suppress or contain 
international disturbances short of large-scale war . . .'' This role 
as the Nation's force-in-readiness, prepared to create strategic 
advantage via its ability to be quickest to respond to either crisis or 
conflict, and prepared to both prevent and contain conflict below the 
threshold of traditional armed conflict remains as valid today as it 
was when first articulated.
                    personnel and talent management
    None of our Force Design 2030 aspirations are possible without 
addressing the people within our ranks. As Secretary Austin 
highlighted, ``our most critical asset . . . is our people.'' I believe 
this is even more relevant within the Marine Corps. Marines are the 
heart and soul of the Corps. Almost all of your 225,000 marines serve 
honorably every day, representing the very best of our country and your 
constituencies. No institution, however, is without flaws. As I noted 
last year, malignant individuals and small malignant subcultures 
continue to exist within your Marine Corps. In this era of profound 
ideological division within our Nation, some individual marines 
regrettably bring with them, or fall victim to while in service, 
misogynistic, racist, and homophobic/transphobic ideologies driven by 
hate, fear, and ignorance. While I have instituted even more rigorous 
policies than previously existed to ensure we identify such individuals 
during enlistment and accession screening, I remain committed to 
identifying and holding accountable any marine unable to uphold our 
core values and to adhere to our unapologetically high standards. This 
is what you should expect from me, and you will get it.
    Within the context of the larger national conversation on race, 
social justice, and equality, it became clear to me early in my 
Commandancy that there were symbols and behaviors within our Corps that 
challenged the cohesion and unity essential to military effectiveness. 
The Confederate Battle flag stood out as one such symbol. I am not a 
historian and do not take a position as to the true meaning of this 
ancient banner, but some in today's world have rallied around the 
colors of that defeated rebellion to foster division and hate. As a 
result, I prohibited its display aboard all Marine Corps installations 
beginning last spring. My primary responsibility is to prepare marines 
to fight and win in combat, and we cannot tolerate artificial division 
driving wedges among your marines--especially ones so easy to identify 
and remove. I will do everything within my authority to remove any 
obstacle preventing equality and cohesion. Signs or symbols that 
support or endorse hatred, ignorance, or injustice have no place in our 
Corps.
    While these acknowledgements of past prejudice are good first 
steps, we must do more than simply look over our shoulders at the past. 
We must acknowledge the real bias and obstacles in the system today. We 
must promote and retain the very best marines; however, it is clear to 
me that a degree of structural racism and sexism exists within our 
current system. We must create a system of structural equality that 
ensures all marines--of all backgrounds--are able to use their best 
talents to solve the problems we soon will face. The diversity of 
thought and actions each marine brings will help us find more creative 
and innovative solutions to these future challenges. We must actively 
work to retain and grow this diversity of thought through a more 
diverse group of talented individuals, while at the same time 
protecting against extremism.
    Over the past decade and in close coordination with Congress, we've 
prioritized the prevention of sexual harassment and sexual assault as 
well as dedicated tremendous effort into providing the appropriate 
response to these criminal acts. I am convinced of the linkage between 
sexual harassment and sexual assault, thus we will continue to make 
every effort to eliminate both from our ranks with your continued 
assistance. We have increased the number of Victim Legal Counselors 
dedicated to supporting sexual assault victims over the past 12 months. 
However, all of these efforts are dedicated to the response after a 
tragic event has occurred. We must do better at the prevention in order 
to stop sexual assault and sexual harassment before they occur. 
Although we conduct regular training aimed at preventing this from 
happening, we are still working to overcome unhealthy attitudes and 
behaviors recruits arrive with to Recruit Training. We must develop 
practices that identify those negative behaviors before they turn into 
heinous acts and prevent such behaviors from occurring in the first 
place.
    Improving the capabilities and proficiencies of the individual 
marine necessitates we must also have the very best senior leaders for 
those marines. I am humbled to serve alongside the General Officers and 
Flag Officers within the Department of the Navy. But even one instance 
of misconduct or misbehavior within our General Officer ranks is too 
many. Over the past decade, the Marine Corps has selected several 
officers for promotion to brigadier general who subsequently failed to 
be confirmed by the Senate. This is unacceptable. Over the coming 
months, I will announce several major policy changes related to talent 
management to include how we screen and select our commanders and most 
senior leaders. We are currently reviewing the efficacy of implementing 
a 360-degree review for all lieutenant colonels and colonels eligible 
for command selection and all colonels eligible for selection to 
brigadier general, to help ensure we identify the absolute best who 
have earned the trust and respect of juniors, peers, and seniors alike. 
In addition to these issues related to screening, I remain concerned at 
the absence of Black officers within the senior ranks of our aviation 
enterprise and specifically within the ranks of our fixed-wing pilots, 
as well as the paucity of female general officers. We are currently 
studying both issues, and will share the results of those studies once 
completed.
    As you are aware, we cannot create new senior leaders in a day. If 
we are to correct our gap in diversity at the senior ranks, we must 
also address diversity at accessions. The largest single source of 
commissioning within the Marine Corps is the U. S. Naval Academy, 
accounting for nearly 20 percent of officer commissions each year. A 
recently released study identified that almost 75 percent of the 
nominations to our service academies were given to white students. The 
diversity of this population has a direct impact on what leaders are 
available for selection to our senior ranks.
    It is not enough that we recruit and train the very best. Once 
marines have joined our ranks, we must nurture and incentivize them 
along their individual journeys through a modern talent management 
system flexible enough to account for changing career interests and 
common life choices over time. Without such a system, we will 
increasingly struggle to retain the very best people in an ever more 
competitive marketplace. Our one-size-fits-all, industrial-era approach 
that treats individuals as interchangeable cogs within a larger machine 
does not appropriately incentivize the most talented individuals to 
remain in service. We are currently reviewing policy options that will 
offer marines greater flexibility when it comes to tour lengths based 
on an individual's circumstances--most notably when a marine has a 
child entering or completing high school. Our marines must not be 
forced to choose between being good parents or being good marines. 
Those sterling goals must be compatible. I remain committed to 
improving the lives of our marines as they become parents and we are 
looking into ways that would prevent them from having to choose between 
the newborn and continued service as a marine. I truly desire a Marine 
Corps known for being the best within the joint force for our treatment 
of new parents and families--and not just our warfighting prowess.
    It is a well-known issue that the Marine Corps is struggling to 
recruit and retain Americans possessing the crucial science, 
technology, engineering, and mathematical skills and competencies 
required for the future. Technology companies present exciting and 
challenging opportunities for software developers, cyber professionals, 
and engineers. We must offer opportunities that allow someone to choose 
both service and professional reward. In addition, we must do a better 
job targeting the application of our NROTC scholarships to these 
individuals, as well as explore new possibilities with Historically 
Black Colleges and Universities to satisfy these shortfalls.
    The military services--including your Marine Corps--continue to 
lose the competition with the civilian airline industry for pilots and 
maintainers, even with the adverse impacts of COVID-19 on the airline 
industry. We are not maintaining sufficient numbers of naval aviators 
and F-35 maintainers to sustain either our existing inventory of 
aircraft or aircraft programmed for the years to come. Within our F-35 
community, we have a shortfall of both pilots and maintainers. I am 
concerned that if we do not remedy these shortfalls in the very near 
future, we may be in a situation in which we are directed by Congress 
to procure aircraft for which we have insufficient pilots and 
maintainers.
                         training and education
    A key element of our larger force design transformation is our need 
to adopt an information age approach to training and education that 
produces better leaders and warfighters more effectively and 
efficiently. The essence of this approach is to focus on identifying, 
developing, and sustaining the unique talents of individual marines, 
not turning out MOS-shaped cogs to fit MOS-shaped slots in a machine. 
Better warfighters in an era of exponential change means adaptive, 
critical thinkers who are also tactical and operational masters of 
their profession. Among many implications of this shift will be higher 
expectations and intellectual standards for marines, especially 
commissioned officers, at every stage of their selection for and 
attendance at formal schools. We still need standardized training and 
education to set a baseline and inculcate our core Service values and 
ethos, but there are significant aspects of entry-level training that 
must be adapted. Much of our current understanding of future 
warfighting requirements, associated concepts, and force design point 
to a more highly trained force from the entry-level onward. We need to 
change how we train and educate as well. We have known for a long time 
that rote repetition and even ``perfect practice'' against static, 
unresisting targets is only the barest beginning of mastery. Consistent 
opportunities to make tactical and operational decisions against a 
thinking enemy must be a critical part of our curricula at all levels. 
This kind of force-on-force wargaming and training must stand on a 
solid foundation of military history and theory--games, simulations, 
and exercises are necessary, but not sufficient. We will develop that 
foundation in school, but sustain it by rigorous, accountable, self-
directed effort. We must address the question of ``standards'' 
transparently and head-on to create the force we desire, and to create 
the force we advertise. In an initial step to creating a philosophy and 
culture of a learning organization, last year I signed the first all-
new service doctrine since 1998; MCDP 7 Learning was released in 
February and MCDP 1-4 Competing in December. In addition to releasing 
new doctrine, we have elevated command of our Training and Education 
Command to a three-star general, equal to all other Deputy Commandants, 
and are in the process of re-establishing a robust Futures Directorate.
    Achieving diversity of thought requires fixing our entry-level 
instruction to allow every new recruit and officer candidate the same 
opportunity to master these skills without it impeding their future 
career opportunities. Not every young man or woman who joins our ranks 
grew up participating in activities relevant to individual battlefield 
skills such as marksmanship, orienteering, water survival, or technical 
skills. As a matter of longstanding practice, however, we continue to 
assess potential at the very earliest stages of our recruit and officer 
training programs based on performance in precisely those skills. There 
is no doubt of the continuing importance of these military basics, but 
we cannot expect every new marine to master those individual skills 
with the same amount of in-service instruction, regardless of previous 
experience. A new recruit who has never touched a rifle cannot be 
expected to master marksmanship in the same amount of time as a recruit 
who grew up handling rifles regularly, and a marine who never learned 
to swim should not compete unaided for job placement with a marine who 
grew up as a competitive swimmer. In effect, we penalize marines who 
fail to master these basic skills because they did not start with the 
same knowledge or skill base. While holding the line on the standard of 
basic competencies that define a marine, our entry-level training must 
provide the instruction necessary for every recruit and officer 
candidate to achieve mastery in basic skills, regardless of how much 
time it takes.
    The COVID-19 pandemic brought new challenges and opportunities to 
your Marine Corps. During the entire time, your force-in-readiness 
continued recruiting, training, operating, and deploying around the 
globe. Although we did not stop any of our activities, we did learn 
many lessons from the pandemic that we can continue to use going 
forward to make a more resilient and capable force. We devised new 
methods of virtually connecting with potential recruits and with our 
force, internally. For entry-level training, we spread out recruits 
while they slept and installed more handwashing stations, which has 
virtually eliminated the inevitable illness that the new recruits will 
pass around as they come in from all over the country. A key factor in 
this success has been the level of discipline instilled by small unit 
leaders which prevented any significant outbreaks and kept marines 
healthy. Your marines continue to serve their communities by 
establishing Federal COVID-19 vaccine sites in local communities in 
support of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. As President Biden 
highlighted, we don't have enough people to provide vaccination shots--
put the shots in people's arms--so marines are filling in this 
immediate shortfall.
                       gender integrated training
    The Fiscal Year 2020 NDAA directed the Marine Corps to integrate 
training at both Marine Corps Recruit Depots Parris Island and San 
Diego. Since the signing of the law, we have trained multiple 
integrated companies at MCRD Parris Island. In February, the recruits 
of Lima Company were the first gender-integrated company at MCRD San 
Diego in the installation's 100-year existence. To train the first 
females at MCRD San Diego, we graduated the first gender-integrated 
class at Drill Instructor School in San Diego in December and relocated 
female drill instructors from MCRD Parris Island. We will take the 
lessons learned from this company as well as a concurrent study to 
identify the requirements needed to fulfill the 2020 NDAA within the 
prescribed timelines. However, as I have publicly stated several times, 
we will prioritize options that provide the best training and most 
efficient use of resources to ensure marines graduating from boot camp 
are ready for the rigors of service in an elite organization during 
challenging times.
                              force design
    Shortly after I testified before this Committee in the spring of 
2020, I published the Force Design 2030 report. Force Design 2030 is 
how your Marine Corps is changing its trajectory to create advantage 
for the fleets and joint force in both maritime gray zone competition 
and more traditional conflict. Although we need new capabilities to 
deter adversaries, we must fundamentally change how we think about 
armed conflict. We can no longer view warfare through the binary lens 
of war and peace, but should recognize the existence of a cyclical 
continuum of competition that occurs every day and involves all 
elements of national power. Historically, the military viewed 
maintaining the peace as deterring war through denial or by punishment. 
Force Design 2030 offers a third option in addition to those two that 
will counter strategies below the threshold of armed-conflict by 
winning the reconnaissance and counter-reconnaissance competition and 
facilitating deterrence by detection.
    At its core, Force Design 2030 is a campaign of learning. Through 
wargames, analysis, and limited experimentation, it has become clear 
the joint force needs a capability that operates persistently and with 
maximum organic mobility and dispersion to compete and deter in the 
contact and blunt layers. The vulnerability of large fixed bases and 
shore-based infrastructure to long-range precision strike, combined 
with the impracticality of defending such infrastructure from the 
pacing threat's emerging capabilities at any politically-feasible level 
of resourcing and regional posture, necessitates that the stand-in 
force be able to perform these functions from a strictly expeditionary 
and highly mobile and resilient naval posture. This refined analysis 
and understanding is what is driving our Force Design 2030 to support 
concepts like Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO), as well as 
informing the recently released Tentative Manual on Expeditionary 
Advanced Based Operations. We will continue to refine and update the 
Tentative Manual with the lessons learned from our FMF experimentation. 
In the near future, we will release our latest concept--Stand-In 
Forces.
    Much as our 29th Commandant codified maneuver warfare in our 
principal doctrine MCDP-1 Warfighting to instill a maneuver warfare 
mindset into every marine, I felt it necessary to codify how we compete 
every day around the globe. We recently released a doctrinal 
publication entitled Competing to instill a competitive mindset into 
every marine, whether above or below the threshold of armed conflict. 
Marines--and the military as a whole--must be aware that every action 
or inaction has an effect on reassuring our partners and allies and 
deterring our competitors. All that we do, from our force laydown, to 
the activity at each location, to the equipment we buy, signals our 
commitment to reassure and deter. In a globally connected operating 
environment, we no longer have the luxury of maintaining a binary 
combat or garrison mindset; our posture and mindset must be one of 
continuous competition.
                  naval expeditionary stand-in forces
    Expeditionary advanced bases are a platform for small, mission-
tailored groups of marines to distribute and hide in plain sight with 
the assistance of advanced camouflage, cover, concealment, detection, 
and deception (C3D2) capabilities against a competitor who is seeking 
to locate our forces. Expeditionary advanced bases will enable the 
convergence of capabilities from multiple domains and create the 
virtues of mass without concentration. The Marine Littoral Regiment 
(MLR)--the base unit for our future force--will provide fleet and joint 
force commanders with persistent, survivable forces that will enable 
the generation of effects within areas that our adversaries hope to 
deny to us through their integrated systems of anti-access and area-
denial capabilities. In terms of hardware, marine capabilities will 
include anti-ship Naval Strike Missiles (NSM) loaded on the unmanned 
Remotely Operated Ground Unit Expeditionary (ROGUE) Fires; self-
sustainment and mobility with the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW); and, 
long-loiter aerial reconnaissance in an expeditionary environment with 
the Medium Altitude, Long Endurance (MALE) Group 5 unmanned aerial 
systems (UAS). Future infantry units operating within the MLR construct 
will be equipped with organic precision fires to include loitering 
munitions. The MLRs will be networked with our F-35 capabilities, 
providing a further layer of combat credibility and sensing. In the 
future, these forces could employ more advanced munitions such as 
Tomahawk Land Attack Munitions (TLAM), Maritime Strike Tomahawks (MST), 
SM-6 containerized anti-ship missiles; and a wide array of unmanned or 
optionally manned systems to enhance deterrence. Without these long-
range precision fires, the MLRs will not be suitable to support the 
fleets and will lack the ability to influence the vast maritime area 
your Marine Corps must do.
    In the even more critical human domain, these capabilities will 
encompass the necessary training and education to produce leaders who 
understand how to deter competitors and provide civilian leadership 
strategic options across a wider spectrum. The MLRs will offer 
deterrence by detection through constant surveillance of the 
competitor, complicating their decision-making calculus if they attempt 
fait accompli gambits, and doing so while networked into the larger 
architecture of naval and joint command, control, computers, 
communications, cyber, intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, and 
tracking (C5ISR-T) articulated in the Joint All-Domain Command and 
Control (JADC2) concept and previous discussions on Mosaic Warfare.
    With global sensors becoming ubiquitous, the value of 
reconnaissance and counter-reconnaissance or scouting and counter-
scouting will increase. Force Design 2030 offers civilian leaders 
strategic options to identify, deter, and hold accountable competitors 
challenging U.S. interests or infringing on international norms at any 
point on the globe. It creates advantage by providing uniformed and 
civilian leadership with a force capable of denying key maritime 
terrain to an adversary or to force a change in decision calculus and 
facilitate de-escalation. Those naval expeditionary forces will also be 
capable of rapidly sensing, making sense, and acting upon information 
from inside the enemy's weapon engagement zone (WEZ) in support of the 
fleet and larger joint force, further complicating adversary decision 
calculus. These stand-in forces will be able to support anti-submarine 
warfare (ASW) efforts and help sanitize key maritime straits, thus 
expanding our strategic undersea warfare advantage. Your Marine Corps 
is transforming into a force capable of competing and winning the 
hider/finder competition by proliferating sensors to detect adversary 
presence, employing advanced C3D2 for resilience, and maintaining a 
lethal array of long-range precision fires to prosecute targets at a 
time and place of our choosing--whether ashore or afloat or in the air. 
Stand-in forces will simultaneously satisfy traditional requirements 
from the fleet and combatant commanders for a modern, resilient crisis 
response force capable of responding across the range of military 
operations. And, as noted in the most recent testimony by the 
Commander, USINDOPACOM, these stand-in expeditionary forces are further 
required as the forward leading-edge to any strategic defense in the 
Indo-Pacific and any maritime defense-in-depth.
    From our continued wargaming and experimentation, we have learned 
much about the utility of multi-domain reconnaissance. As a result, 
over the coming months a new marine reconnaissance enterprise will 
consolidate disparate elements of existing organizations within a 
structure capable of generating a coherent, persistent, forward-
presence focused on key maritime terrain that is vital to U.S. national 
security interests. The next step will be the development of our Mobile 
Reconnaissance framework which will deliver expanded all-domain 
capabilities to our naval expeditionary forces and fleets via a 
combination of Marine Commandos, manned and unmanned surface platforms 
to include the Long-Range, Unmanned Surface Vessels (LRUSV) and small 
boats, manned and unmanned ground Ultra-Light Tactical Vehicles (ULTV), 
unmanned aerial systems, and unmanned subsurface vehicles. As with 
other force design efforts, these forces will be fully capable of 
networking with our 5th generation F-35 capabilities as well as 
connecting with the larger joint architecture. In addition to offering 
continuous surveillance in the contact layer, the MLR increases 
lethality, disbursement, mobility, and survivability in a way that our 
current stable of large, expensive, high-signature platforms cannot 
match to deter and counter aggression in critical regions. The MLRs 
will provide a unique expeditionary advanced base capability, but they 
will not be the sole definition of the FMF as our Marine Expeditionary 
Units will remain our ``crown jewel.'' Your Marine Corps can compete, 
deter, and win as part of a naval expeditionary force operating in 
international waters and with light footprints ashore on the territory 
of local allies and partners. It does not require the sustained 
presence of heavy ground forces or the regular deployment of large, 
land-based aviation elements. These unique capabilities make the Marine 
Corps the ideal choice for a force-in-readiness that serves as the 
backbone of the contact layer because our forces can cooperate with 
allied and partnered nations without burdening their local 
infrastructure, whether for steady-state operations or disaster 
response operations. Additionally, the sensing elements of the FMF 
coupled with lethality are key attributes in preventing conflict.
                                posture
    Twenty-first century strategic competition requires a new posture 
to deter modern threats. Our current force posture is strikingly 
similar to the one designed coming out of the Korean War. That posture 
was designed to deter and confront a Soviet threat that consisted of 
strategic bombers and Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. Over the 
last two decades, our strategic competitors took note of our strengths 
and designed forces specifically to counter them. We must now adjust 
our posture against the pacing threat of China due to its ability to 
hold our fleet at stand-off ranges and prevent significant force 
projections. This does not mean abandoning our forward position of 
advantage, but rather adopting a more robust and resilient forward-
deployed posture as described in testimony by Admiral Davidson as part 
of a larger defense-in-depth.
    Marine forces working with Navy ships must occupy space within the 
contested first and second island chains in the Indo-Pacific with the 
ability to effectively operate in all domains. Guam remains one of our 
most important strategic locations as it is US territory located 
closest to contested maritime regions. In order to effectively deter by 
detection, our forces must be within sensor and striking range to 
impose cost on the adversary through their allocation of limited C5ISR-
T assets or determining that the cost is too high to attempt anything 
that would cross the line of established international laws and norms. 
However, while Guam remains a strategically important location within 
our larger defense-in-depth, we must not ignore the potential impacts 
to it due to the adverse effects of climate change. We must take the 
necessary steps to protect Guam and the strategic advantage it 
provides.
    Our posture includes more than the laydown of our forces around the 
world, it also must include what our forces are doing in those 
locations. As Secretary Austin has told us, ``our success will depend 
on how closely we work with our friends around the world to secure our 
common interests and promote our shared values.'' Marines regularly 
conduct training with allies and partners globally. This training is 
beneficial to building trusting relationships and interoperability. 
These relationships are not--and should not be--one way, in that US 
Forces tell partners and allies how to operate. We can learn from other 
nations as much as we can teach. For example, the Japanese Amphibious 
Rapid Deployment Brigade may have used the U. S. Marine Corps as an 
example in its development, but we have much to learn from them based 
on how quickly they designed, assembled, tested, and operationalized 
the brigade. Our commitment to working with allies and partners creates 
a mutually beneficial relationship for our military organizations while 
simultaneously signaling our resolve to competitors. Initiatives like 
the Pacific Deterrence and the European Deterrence are so important in 
supporting our posture.
                          competition and risk
    Some critics of our Force Design 2030 suggest that non-stealthy 
platforms such as the LAW, LPD-17 class amphibious ship, and the 
current Group 5 UAS are operationally unsuitable for high-end 
warfighting. This critique's foundational assumption is that our 
decades-old stealth technology or military-standard naval architecture 
will be overcome with technological countermeasures and that stealth 
technologies will become affordable enough to proliferate the operating 
environment in large quantities. Survivability under such conditions is 
likely to prove far more a matter of quantity, dispersion, signature 
management, and distributed lethality than of being able to avoid 
technical detection or defend against all threats. We must view 
survivability in terms of the entire system--the entire system must be 
able to survive long enough to accomplish the mission vice an 
individual platform. The expeditionary system of platforms our marines 
employ--and the networks they operate on--must be capable of competing 
and deterring below the level of armed conflict as well as fight at the 
high-end to reassure our partners and allies as well as demonstrate a 
credible capability to a would-be adversary. For example, while not a 
part of the currently envisioned program, LAWs operating in plain sight 
with containerized missiles could effectively compete and deter. Such a 
reimagining of the program could involve greater costs, so we will have 
to study the benefits and make resource informed decisions about 
tradeoffs in capabilities and capacity. Traditional amphibious ships, 
such as the LPD-17s, possessing tactical advantages derived from well-
decks will confound adversaries and force them to consume resources 
attempting to positively identify those capabilities loaded inside--
whether unmanned surface vessels, unmanned underwater vessels, or more 
traditional capabilities. Long-endurance Group 5 UAS, like the MQ-9, 
also provides the persistent presence necessary to win the hider /
finder competition for the fleet. Additionally, a proven platform like 
the MQ-9 supports quickly learning the platform through the experience 
of the US Air Force while continuing adaptation and innovation over 
time as we procure the future system.
    If competition expands from opening volleys or punishment strikes 
to large-scale conflict, the Fleet Marine Force offers the Joint Force 
Commander a persistent stand-in force capable of conducting 
reconnaissance, counter-reconnaissance, and targeting in the blunt 
layer. A stand-in force with the ability to support allies and partners 
while striking the adversary with long range precision fires, 5th 
generation short take-off and vertical landing aircraft, and a host of 
electronic warfare options combined with the mobility of the Amphibious 
Combat Vehicle (ACV), LAW, and unmanned surface and undersea vehicles 
provides a survivable option to buy time for the remainder of the joint 
force to bring war-winning capabilities.
                        logistics and resilience
    Sustaining the force we are developing now becomes even more 
critical in the years ahead. The relative ease with which we have been 
able to project power into the Middle East over the last few decades 
has lulled us into a false sense of security. As a result, we have 
optimized service logistics efforts to support requirements without 
regard to the threat actions that could disrupt them. My predecessor 
said ``we are going to have to fight to get to the fight.'' I will take 
that a step further by saying we will have to fight to sustain our 
warfighting efforts over time. The Joint Logistics Enterprise must 
connect our emerging operational concepts at the tactical edge all the 
way back to the defense industrial base. We have been an end user of 
the system, but that needs to change. We must develop new methods for 
the Naval Force to enable broader joint force sustainment efforts. On a 
day-to-day basis, today's distributed force strains our systems to the 
limits. This will only get more challenging considering the dynamic, 
evolving threats that competitors can apply against our supply chains, 
manufacturing bases, and global sustainment network.
    Based on anticipated funding levels and the additional budget 
uncertainty that has been introduced by the COVID-19 response, we must 
clearly consider risk as we move forward. Our force design efforts for 
the future will provide the context necessary to make the difficult 
choices for our installations and logistics enterprise. We can no 
longer accept the inefficiencies inherent in legacy bureaucratic 
processes nor accept incremental improvements. In order for our 
installations and logistics organizations to change effectively, we 
must better understand the implications that Force Design 2030 will 
have on the FMF across multiple time horizons so we can resource our 
installations and logistics enterprise appropriately. In coordination 
with partners both inside and outside the service, we will evolve our 
organization to meet the future FMF's operational requirements in the 
air, on land, and at sea while continuing to provide world-class 
support to the force today. This may require a change in the existing 
command relationships between the bases and stations and the forces 
they support. I will keep the Committee fully informed of any such 
changes as our understanding evolves.
    Finally, in an effort to modernize our bases and stations in a 
manner commensurate with our overall force design, we are experimenting 
with advanced force protection systems enabled by artificial 
intelligence at several of our installations. This capability is 
promising and may provide the service an opportunity to greatly enhance 
the protection of our installations while drastically cutting personnel 
costs.
                   major defense acquisition programs
    I have always operated under the assumption that evidence, wargame 
findings, modeling and simulations, and my own best military advice as 
Commandant would persuade people across the defense enterprise and 
within Congress that we need change now. While I remain convinced that 
this assumption remains valid and look forward to a continued dialogue 
with the Committee, we have more work to do to persuade key audiences 
of the merits of our desired changes. Congressional support for Ground 
Based Anti-Ship Missiles (GBASM); LRUSV; Medium Altitude, Long 
Endurance UAS; and I believe that Light Amphibious Warship (LAW) will 
be essential to our modernization efforts. We will continue to work 
with the Congress to demonstrate the importance of a rapid acquisition 
of these critical capabilities. I have repeatedly asked for 
Congressional support to change legacy programs that are no longer 
operationally relevant or have become cost prohibitive, as well as 
support for new initiatives that create a relative warfighting 
advantage. This is the kind of agility we will need going forward in 
order to sustain that warfighting advantage.
    Based on my understanding of the strategic challenges before us and 
my desire to remain the best steward of taxpayer dollars, I am 
convinced that we must be willing to critically assess the scope of 
current Programs of Record for our Major Defense Acquisition Programs 
(MDAP). As we reduce the end strength of the Marine Corps in order to 
internally fund our modernization, each MDAP must be reevaluated for 
capacity and sustainability. We will need the continued support of 
Congress to re-scope any program that exceeds our requirement or is 
unaffordable to procure, man, and sustain.
    In addition, we should acknowledge that up to three quarters of a 
weapon system's cost occurs in sustainment-- the operational and 
maintenance upkeep after the initial acquisition. With the new 
procurement of large weapon systems like the F-35B/C, CH-53K, MV-22, 
JLTV, and ACV--to name but a few--we should be prepared to modify 
programs of records to ensure affordability and viability throughout 
the entire lifecycle of each program. Prioritizing high-end platforms 
without resourcing the supplies and infrastructure needed to sustain 
its operational capability is fundamentally irresponsible; the result 
would be a hollow force.
    With every dollar we expend to upgrade a legacy platform that is no 
longer survivable against a peer competitor, we are slowing our rate of 
transformation. Our competitors no longer wait to see what America does 
and follow suit; they have embarked on their own trajectory, which 
currently outpaces ours. Our Force Design 2030 addresses this problem 
by forcing the competitor to adapt to us through the tactical, 
operational, and strategic challenges a truly modern force presents. 
This does create domestic dilemmas as we are forced to transition from 
legacy platforms built in certain districts to modern and relevant 
equipment that may be built elsewhere. However, if we are to succeed in 
this great power competition, we must make those difficult choices. I 
remain confident that this can occur in a responsible and balanced way, 
without creating winners and losers, and look forward to discussions 
with each of you on a way ahead that satisfies shared interests.
    The Marine Corps remains constrained by an acquisition process that 
tries to eliminate risk--risk poorly defined as uncertainty. We must 
recognize that incrementally better versions of the current Marine 
Corps is not going to be enough for real great power competition. As 
noted in the House Armed Services Committee's Future of Defense Task 
Force Report 2020, our acquisition process is too sluggish to work 
effectively at scale with many technology companies, as they need to 
innovate and compete daily to survive in their dynamic industry. With 
the rapid transition we need to make over the next decade, we must be 
willing to incur some short-term risk to better prepare and compete in 
the future. The ability to prototype new technologies, then 
aggressively experiment and exercise with prototype equipment to 
understand its full capability on the battlefield is paramount. Lastly, 
I agree with the Report's recommendation that we need a process that 
better bridges the ``valley of death'' to transition critical prototype 
equipment into full-scale fielding without taking years through the 
traditional planning, programming, budgeting, and execution process.
                   readiness and strategic advantage
    As we build a more capable and lethal force, we must also take into 
consideration the readiness of that force. Since 2017, the Marine Corps 
has significantly increased the availability of forces to Combatant 
Commanders based on the generous funding of Congress. As marines deploy 
forward in support of operational requirements, they buy down today's 
risk by deterring competitors from violating international norms while 
assuring allies and partners of the strength of our commitments. 
However, the mere availability of those marines does not equal 
readiness to compete in the maritime gray zone, nor does it create 
strategic advantage to deter or defeat rapidly evolving threats. It is 
time for us to embrace a more sophisticated and balanced understanding 
of military readiness and cease using availability as the primary 
metric in our readiness evaluations. This antiquated model is hugely 
consumptive and forces us to spend limited resources ensuring the 
availability of platforms designated for retirement and replacement. 
This also applies to equipment that we are attempting to transition to 
more modern capabilities. For example, every dollar spent to make a 4th 
generation aircraft that has exceeded its intended service life is a 
dollar that cannot be spent to accelerate the fielding of 5th 
generation very low-observable aircraft and advanced UAS. We must 
invest in future capabilities that create, maintain, and expand 
warfighting advantage to ensure a ready force tomorrow that maintains 
its ability to compete and deter.
    During the most recent conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, 
Armenian ground forces that we would have labeled ready based on 
availability, were easily targeted and destroyed by Azerbaijani forces 
employing elements of a precision strike regime to include swarms of 
loitering munitions and lethal unmanned systems. While Armenia's tanks 
and infantry fighting vehicles were available, they were not 
operationally suitable, thus not ready for the conflict. As our 
competitors continue to expand their capabilities, we will soon find 
ourselves outmatched unless we change our readiness framework. To do 
so, we should embrace a new readiness paradigm in which availability 
ranks behind generating a relative warfighting advantage. A ready 
capability in the future must be one that is both available when we 
need it and creates a strategic warfighting advantage against a 
specific threat in great power competition and conflict.
    A ready force that creates a strategic advantage over the pacing 
threat must be organized to generate faster decision cycles against the 
enemy. A large part of our Force Design 2030 efforts is aimed at 
developing the right capabilities for the future force, but just as 
important is devising the correct organizational model to employ those 
capabilities. I do not support creating more or larger headquarters 
organizations to accommodate the larger quantities of data coming in as 
I feel this will only slow the decision-making process. I'm also not 
committed to organizations that we have employed in the past if they 
don't work to fulfill our future requirements. In addition to right-
sizing our FMF, I've also directed an ongoing assessment to reduce 15 
percent of our personnel across Headquarters Marine Corps to generate 
savings that we can reinvest into our warfighting capabilities without 
losing the institutional processes necessary to support an adaptable 
force.
    Your Marine Corps, and the Naval Service as a whole, have a proven 
record when it comes to driving change. Both the People's Republic of 
China and Russia modernized their militaries over the past decade based 
on what they assessed as our strengths and our competitive warfighting 
advantages. They adapted their operational and strategic approaches to 
counter us and now we must modernize in order to remedy shortfalls and 
drive the next cycle of change. Simply making our legacy platforms 
better or more of them available will not force our competitors to 
change course, nor will it create the strategic advantage required. I 
concur with the Air Force Chief of Staff General CQ Brown: we must 
accelerate change or lose.
    One way we can accelerate change is by seeking a more nuanced 
understanding of readiness as it applies to each service or even common 
force elements within each service, and to ask--how many forces-in-
readiness can we collectively afford? A critical factor of 
understanding readiness is identifying when a joint force will need a 
capability in accordance with a detailed mobilization plan. The Marine 
Corps--as well as other critical elements of the joint force--will 
always be at the front of the timelines because we are the force who is 
present before conflict and deters an adversary's early escalation. 
Serving as the foundational element of our persistent contact layer 
allows time for the joint force to mobilize and surge the war winning 
capabilities of the other services. However, without your marines 
forward deployed to tamp back the aggressor and create decision space, 
the joint force will not have the time and opportunity to deploy.
                   fleet design and naval integration
    Thus far, my comments have focused on issues germane to my role as 
Commandant of the Marine Corps--to organize, train, and equip Marine 
Corps forces in support of the Fleets and Combatant Commanders. Please 
now allow me to share a few thoughts with you as one of the three 
senior naval officials testifying before you and also as a member of 
the Joint Chiefs of Staff. My experience and role as a senior Naval 
officer requires that I share my best military advice in the ongoing 
fleet design conversation. One thing is clear: serious naval 
professionals both in and out of service agree that the status quo 
fleet will not provide the strategic advantages required in an era of 
great power competition, and must change.
    I would like to state for the record my thanks to the CNO and his 
OPNAV staff for their continued support redesigning the fleet and the 
amphibious / naval expeditionary portion of it without reservation or 
hesitation in support of our shared understanding of the operational 
dilemmas created by peer adversaries. The CNO is leading a major change 
in future fleet design and I wish to acknowledge that for the record, 
and formally communicate my support. I agree with the CNO that the Navy 
does not need to be ``reimagined'' or ``reinvented,'' and neither does 
the Marine Corps for that matter. However, as the CNO has noted, how we 
perform our core roles and functions of deterrence, maritime security, 
power projection, and sea control must change--just as it has many 
times in the past.
    Being physically present within the area of responsibility is no 
longer evidence of success, and we should no longer think presence 
somehow produces deterrence in and of itself. For naval presence to 
deter competitors, physical positioning must create real strategic 
advantage. The specific capabilities present must provide a competitive 
warfighting advantage against specific peer threats and do so in a 
resource neutral manner. Dispersing large numbers of militarized 
fishing vessels with a nuclear aircraft carrier may result in the 
temporary absence of those adversary vessels in key maritime terrain, 
but it comes at a fiscally prohibitive cost, not to mention the 
operational cost of not having that warfighting capability postured to 
project power via its carrier air wing. However, having a robust 
inventory of submarines, frigates, light amphibious warships, and 
networked unmanned or optionally manned surface vessels--or even T-AGOS 
and military sealift vessels--operating in the same region would 
provide a competitive warfighting advantage without resource 
prohibitive operating costs. Such a fleet would further reinforce our 
strategic advantages in undersea warfare through their modern ASW 
capabilities and our advantages in naval expeditionary warfare. The 
process of redesigning the fleet will not be an easy or inexpensive, 
nor will it be accomplished quickly, but it can be done with your 
continued oversight and support. I wish to thank the Secretary, the 
CNO, and the Members of this Committee for their continued commitment 
to the construction and sustainment of our ships necessary to support 
amphibious operations.
    Not that long ago, the Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) that comprised 
the Navy ships for the Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) consisted of 
five ships with a combined gross tonnage of approximately 73,000 
tonnes. Today, our standard three ship ARG/MEUs operate in a 
distributed manner from platforms with a combined gross tonnage of 
approximately 86,000 tonnes. As with many other systems and 
capabilities across the joint force, our ARG/MEU has become smaller yet 
heavier, while simultaneously being asked to be more agile. Distributed 
Maritime Operations is not only the future of naval operations, but in 
reality--the present. As we modernize our marine forces as part of our 
force design efforts, we must also modernize the ARG/MEU. We have seen 
the great value of disaggregating the ARG/MEU with each individual ship 
conducting its own mission within the same Area of Operational 
Responsibility for a Combatant Commander. Greater numbers of smaller 
ships would allow us to disaggregate for a greater number of mission 
sets while maintaining the ability to reassemble into a large force 
with expansive mission sets. Defining our future operational concept 
will also help drive us to better understand what we need from LXX--or 
the next class of amphibious ships. We know they will need to be 
smaller, faster, more lethal, and better networked, but we don't yet 
know to what degree we need these characteristics. As we continue our 
analysis with the Navy, we know that they must be affordable so that we 
can purchase and maintain the number of ships we need to operate 
globally. Therefore, our requirements will be matched to a program that 
is affordable and sustainable over the long-term.
    Finally, I wish to state my support for the observations, 
positions, and conclusions articulated by Admiral Davidson in his most 
recent testimony. The vision he articulated for a strategic defense to 
include a defense-in-depth with naval expeditionary forces postured 
forward and west of the international dateline is one I share, and have 
attempted to communicate as often as possible over the previous 22 
months. I share his conclusion that highly lethal and distributable 
expeditionary forces than can generate the effects of mass without the 
liabilities of concentration are of the highest utility, and am doing 
everything possible to create such forces via my force design efforts 
with the Marine Littoral Regiment.
                               conclusion
    The American people expect us to be our own toughest critics, and 
we are. We have significant strides to make in the near future, but I 
know the leadership and support of this Congress will help us to 
revolutionize our approach to competition and conflict. I pledge to 
keep you informed and involved in the transformation of your Marine 
Corps. The American people are counting on their Marines, Navy, and 
joint force to maintain our ideals and way of life now and into the 
future. The dustbin of history is crammed with once successful 
militaries, businesses, and organizations that recognized the world was 
changing and attempted to meet that change through merely incremental 
improvements in existing ways of doing business. Despite their previous 
successes, these institutions failed in the new environment because 
they could not make the fundamental changes necessary to remain on top. 
We are now in the midst of just such a period of change, and we will 
need all the help and support of this Congress to ensure we continue 
our long history of successful innovation and adaptation.
    While our aspirations and expectations are great, I am certain that 
you expect nothing less from your Marine Corps. With your continued 
support, we shall succeed. We will achieve our goals of transformation, 
both in our culture and warfighting capability, to best support the 
naval campaign and the joint force.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Berger.
    Secretary Harker, would you give us some insight as to why 
the Navy chose to cancel the DDG-51 multiyear procurement, the 
second ship, and then add it as your first unfunded priority?
    Mr. Harker. Thank you, Senator. That was the most difficult 
choice that we faced this year. As we looked at trying to 
balance readiness, capability, and capacity, taking that DDG 
out of the budget was the most difficult choice that we faced, 
and it was something that we wish we could have afforded. After 
visiting both shipyards where we build DDG-51's, I have the 
utmost confidence in those shipyards' ability to deliver 
another DDG-51 if we had been able to afford it in the budget, 
but it was unfortunately a challenge for us.
    Chairmgian Reed. Thank you. Admiral Gilday, we frequently 
sort of focus on the number of ships as the most important 
metric, but it seems to me there are other factors, for 
example, communications, concealment of vessels, operational 
readiness of vessels, where you can have a 500-ship fleet with 
only 100 able to sail. Then now, with the ability to match 
autonomous vehicles to manned vessels, unmanned autonomous 
vehicles, is this notion of a fixed number of ships consistent 
with actual operational needs?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I would like to answer your question 
in three parts. First of all, with respect to numbers, it is 
one metric, and if we are going to fight as a distributed for 
against a military as robust as China, as an example, we are 
going to need a bigger Navy. I believe the analysis has been 
consistent in that regard since 2016. However, I do think this 
is really all about capabilities, and joint capabilities in 
terms of what the Navy brings to the fight for the Joint Force.
    So one of the things that I think that the analysis that we 
did last year was particularly helpful is not only talking 
about the size of the fleet, as you mentioned, but most 
importantly, the composition of the fleet, submarines being 
right at the top of the list in terms of--you hinted at this--
in terms of concealment, right, in terms of our most survivable 
strike platform, where we have overmatch right now against any 
adversary, and we want to maintain that.
    Aircraft carriers, the most survivable airfields in the 
world, quite a platform. The USS Enterprise, which was our 
first nuclear-powered carrier and was around for 50 years, had 
59 different type series aircraft that flew off the deck of 
that aircraft carrier. There is incredible flexibility here, 
particularly, sir, as you hinted at uncrewed or unmanned in the 
future. Our shipbuilding plan begins to touch at that, and we 
are on a very deliberate path, some of it based on the feedback 
from this Committee that we solve two key problems with respect 
to unmanned before we make a decision to come to you for money 
to scale. The first is the reliability of those platforms at 
sea, that they can sustain themselves, be self-sustaining at 
sea for long periods of time, and the second is the ability to 
be able to command and control them with a high degree of 
confidence, and so, sir, I hope I have touched on your point 
adequately.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral.
    General Berger, the Littoral Operation and Contested 
Environment Doctrine, the Expeditionary Advanced Base 
Operations, essentially what you are talking about, as I sense 
it, is a widely distributed environment for marines, that they 
would be separated in relatively small detachments across a 
broad area. Is that a fair estimate?
    General Berger. I would say so, sir.
    Chairman Reed. So that raises the issue of how do you 
supply logistic support to widely dispersed elements in 
contested environments.
    General Berger. I would agree with that. We have not had 
our supply chains challenged since World War II. We have had 
assured supply lines for 70 years, said another way. We have to 
focus now on tactical, operational, strategic logistics. If we 
don't, then we will have the very best capabilities that we 
can't sustain forward, and we are not going to allow that to 
happen. Logistics is a key. Within the Marine Corps we view it 
as our pacing function right now.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. I have been informed 
that a quorum is present, and since a quorum is now present--
excuse me, before I recognize Senator Inhofe--I ask the 
Committee to consider a list of 2,932 pending military 
nominations. Of these nominations, one nominations is one day 
short of the Committee's requirement that nominations be in 
committee for 7 days before we report them out. No objection 
has been raised to this nomination, and I recommend the 
Committee waive the 7-day rule in order to permit the 
confirmation of the nomination of this officer before the 
Senate recesses for the Fourth of July recess.
    In addition, since a quorum is now present, I ask the 
Committee to consider five civilian nominations plus the list 
of 2,932 pending military nominations. First I ask the 
Committee to consider the nominations of Honorable Caroline D. 
Krass, to be General Counsel of the Department of Defense; Ms. 
Gina Ortiz Jones, to be Under Secretary of the Air Force; Dr. 
Ely S. Ratner, to be Assistant Secretary of Defense for Indo-
Pacific Security Affairs, Ms. Shawn G. Skelly, to be Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Readiness; and Ms. Meredith A. Berger, 
to be Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Energy, 
Installations, and Environment.
    Is there a motion to report the military nominations and 
the five civilian nominations?
    Senator Inhofe. So moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    Senator Shaheen. Second.
    Chairman Reed. All in favor, please say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]

    [The list of nominations considered and approved by the 
Committee follows:]

 Military Nominations Pending with the Senate Armed Services Committee 
 Which are Proposed for the Committee's Consideration on June 22, 2021.

    1.  In the Army there are 22 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Ramie K. Barfuss) (Reference No. 293)

    2.  In the Army there are 63 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Eric P. Ahnfeldt) (Reference No. 294)

    3.  In the Marine Corps there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of lieutenant colonel (Anthony N. Sama) (Reference No. 320)

    4.  In the Navy Reserve there are 3 appointments to the 
grade of rear admiral (list begins with Robert T. Clark) 
(Reference No. 343)

    5.  RADM(lh) Eileen H. Laubacher, USNR to be rear admiral 
(Reference No. 344)

    6.  Capt. David R. Storr, USN to be rear admiral (lower 
half) (Reference No. 462)

    7.  Capt. Michael J. Schwerin, USN to be rear admiral 
(lower half) (Reference No. 463)

    8.  In the Navy there are 4 appointments to the grade of 
rear admiral (lower half) (list begins with Bradly D. Dunham) 
(Reference No. 464)

    9.  Capt. Dennis E. Collins, USN to be rear admiral (lower 
half) (Reference No. 465)

    10.  In the Navy there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Patricia H. Ajoy) (Reference No. 516)

    11.  In the Navy there are 4 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Robin C. Cherrett) (Reference No. 
517)

    12.  In the Navy there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Joseph B. Harrison II) (Reference No. 
518)

    13.  In the Navy there are 8 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Taylor R. Forester) (Reference No. 
519)

    14.  In the Navy there are 10 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with David B. Damato) (Reference No. 520)

    15.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Roy L. Henkle) (Reference No. 521)

    16.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Steven J. Dwyer) (Reference No. 522)

    17.  In the Navy there are 195 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Thomas P. Abbott) (Reference No. 523)

    18.  In the Navy there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Daniele Braham) (Reference No. 524)

    19.  In the Navy there are 4 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Shawn G. Gallaher) (Reference No. 
525)

    20.  In the Navy there are 19 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Michael P. Aiena) (Reference No. 526)

    21.  In the Navy there are 10 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Josh A. Cassada) (Reference No. 527)

    22.  In the Navy there are 5 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Kevin D. Bittle) (Reference No. 528)

    23.  In the Navy there are 3 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Jodie K. Cornell) (Reference No. 529)

    24.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Jeffrey N. Dugard) (Reference No. 
530)

    25.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Kenneth O. Allison, Jr.) (Reference 
No. 531)

    26.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of lieutenant colonel (Whit A. Collins) (Reference No. 583)

    27.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of major (Timothy E. Holland) (Reference No. 584)

    28.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of lieutenant colonel (Karl J. Vogel) (Reference No. 585)

    29.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of lieutenant colonel (Nicholas R. Reynolds) (Reference No. 
586)

    30.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Christopher A. Blanco) (Reference No. 587)

    31.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
major (Curt C. Lane) (Reference No. 588)

    32.  In the Army there are 15 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with David P. Curlin) (Reference No. 589)

    33.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Michael R. Bean) (Reference No. 590)

    34.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Daniel J. Meyers) (Reference No. 591)

    35.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (James M. McKnight III) (Reference No. 592)

    36.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Craig P. Lanigan) (Reference No. 593)

    37.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Lisa M. Kopczynski) (Reference No. 594)

    38.  In the Army Reserve there are 6 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Toby J. Alkire) (Reference 
No. 595)

    39.  In the Army Reserve there are 55 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Jeremy C. Abrams) (Reference 
No. 596)

    40.  In the Army Reserve there are 211 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Donna M. Alexander) 
(Reference No. 597)

    41.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Anthony C. Bonfiglio) (Reference No. 598)

    42.  In the Army Reserve there are 185 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with David A. Acosta) (Reference 
No. 599)

    43.  In the Marine Corps there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of lieutenant colonel (Joseph L. Gill II) (Reference No. 
600)

    44.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
lieutenant commander (Anne C. Mooser) (Reference No. 601)

    45.  In the Space Force there are 765 appointments to the 
grade of colonel and below (list begins with Heather J. 
Anderson) (Reference No. 602)

    46.  In the Army there are 3 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with Alison C. Martin) 
(Reference No. 611)

    47.  In the Army there are 3 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with Eugene D. Cox) (Reference 
No. 612)

    48.  MG Jonathan P. Braga, USA to be lieutenant general and 
Commanding General, US Army Special Operations Command 
(Reference No. 623)

    49.  MG Antonio A. Aguto, Jr., USA to be lieutenant general 
and Commanding General, First United States Army (Reference No. 
624)

    50.  MG Stuart W. Risch, USA to be lieutenant general and 
Judge Advocate General, US Army (Reference No. 626)

    51.  MG David J. Furness, USMC to be lieutenant general and 
Deputy Commandant for Plans, Policies, and Operations, 
Headquarters, US Marine Corps (Reference No. 627)

    52.  MG Matthew G. Glavy, USMC to be lieutenant general and 
Deputy Commandant for Information, Headquarters, US Marine 
Corps (Reference No. 628)

    53.  MG Paul A. Chamberlain, USA to be lieutenant general 
and Military Deputy for Budget, Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of the Army (Financial Management and Comptroller) 
(Reference No. 646)

    54.  COL Haldane B. Lamberton, ARNG to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 648)

    55.  COL Joseph A. Dinonno, ARNG to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 649)

    56.  In the Army Reserve there are 23 appointments to the 
grade of major general (list begins with Michael N. Adame) 
(Reference No. 650)

    57.  In the Army Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of major general (list begins with Robert A. Boyette) 
(Reference No. 651)

    58.  BG Michael J. Garshak, ARNG to be major general 
(Reference No. 652)

    59.  BG Damian K. Waddell, ARNG to be major general 
(Reference No. 653)

    60.  COL Mark G. Alessia, to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 654)

    61.  COL Rose P. Keravuori, USAR to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 655)

    62.  BG Mark T. Simerly, USA to be major general (Reference 
No. 656)

    63.  In the Army Reserve there are 6 appointments to the 
grade of brigadier general (list begins with Christopher A. 
Holland) (Reference No. 657)

    64.  In the Army Reserve there are 86 appointments to the 
grade of brigadier general (list begins with Derek L. Adams) 
(Reference No. 658)

    65.  Vice Admiral William R. Merz, USN to be vice admiral 
and Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Operations, Plans and 
Strategy, N3/N5, Office of the Chief of Naval Operations 
(Reference No. 660)

    66.  Rear Admiral Francis D. Morley, USN to be vice admiral 
and Deputy Principal Military Deputy Assistant Secretary of the 
Navy (Research, Development and Acquisition) (Reference No. 
662)

    67.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of colonel (Jeannette M. Watterson) (Reference No. 663)

    68.  In the Air Force Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Jason O. Allen) (Reference No. 664)

    69.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 113 appointments to 
the grade of colonel (list begins with Connie Irene Armstrong) 
(Reference No. 665)

    70.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (David R. Evans) (Reference No. 666)

    71.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Nicollette D. Dennis) (Reference No. 667)

    72.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (Waldo D. Galan) (Reference No. 668)

    73.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Roger W. Dodson) (Reference No. 669)

    74.  In the Army there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Chase D. Crabtree) 
(Reference No. 670)

    75.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Donald A. Vacha) (Reference No. 671)

    76.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Michael E. Lane) (Reference No. 672)

    77.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Timothy J. Redhair) (Reference No. 673)

    78.  In the Army there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Bryce E. Livingston) 
(Reference No. 674)

    79.  In the Army there are 22 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Maria I. Bruton) (Reference No. 675)

    80.  In the Army there are 33 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Ryan S. Bible) (Reference No. 676)

    81.  In the Army there are 6 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Avery J. Carney) (Reference No. 677)

    82.  In the Army there are 3 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Robin L. Burke) (Reference No. 678)

    83.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
major (Brenton A. Arihood) (Reference No. 679)

    84.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Tracy R. Norman) (Reference No. 680)

    85.  In the Marine Corps there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of lieutenant colonel (Jaclyn N. Urso) (Reference No. 
681)

    86.  In the Marine Corps there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of colonel (Paul J. Goguen) (Reference No. 682)

    87.  In the Marine Corps there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of major (Benjamin E. Barr) (Reference No. 683)

    88.  In the Navy there are 12 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Kelly L. Bryne) (Reference No. 684)

    89.  In the Navy there are 25 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with John A. Allen) (Reference No. 685)

    90.  In the Navy there are 29 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Jordan M. Adler) (Reference No. 
686)

    91.  In the Navy there are 29 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Kyle C. Backman) (Reference No. 
687)

    92.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
commander (Ashley S. M. McAbee) (Reference No. 688)

    93.  In the Navy there are 14 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Antonio Barcelos, Jr.) (Reference 
No. 689)

    94.  In the Navy there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Christopher M. Anctil) (Reference 
No. 690)

    95.  In the Navy there are 19 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Jemar R. Ballesteros) (Reference 
No. 691)

    96.  In the Navy there are 514 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Marco A. Acosta) (Reference No. 
692)

    97.  In the Navy there are 36 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Sung H. Ahn) (Reference No. 693)

    98.  In the Navy there are 14 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Drew R. Barker) (Reference No. 694)

    99.  In the Navy there are 11 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Miguel A. Bernal, Jr.) (Reference 
No. 695)

    100.  In the Navy there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Richard S. Chernitzer) (Reference 
No. 696)

    101.  In the Navy there are 16 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Jason K. Bruce) (Reference No. 697)

    102.  In the Navy there are 16 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Sylvester C. Adamah) (Reference No. 
698)

    103.  In the Navy Reserve there is 1 appointment to the 
grade of captain (Patrick L. German) (Reference No. 699)

    104.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
lieutenant commander (Andrew S. Foor) (Reference No. 700)

    105.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
commander (Kevin M. Bacon) (Reference No. 701)

    106.  In the Navy there are 10 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Abdeslam Bousalham) (Reference No. 
702)

    107.  In the Navy there are 17 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Chabonnie R. Alexander) (Reference 
No. 703)

    108.  In the Navy there are 50 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Michael J. Arnold) (Reference No. 
704)

    109.  In the Navy there are 20 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Casey J. Burns) (Reference No. 705)

    110.  In the Navy there are 19 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Timothy D. Barnes) (Reference No. 
706)

    111.  In the Navy there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Derek Butler) (Reference No. 707)

    112.  In the Navy there are 21 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Accursia A. Baldassano) (Reference 
No. 708)

    113.  In the Navy there are 27 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Anthony P. Bannister) (Reference No. 
709)

    114.  In the Navy there are 12 appointments to the grade of 
captain (list begins with Jennifer D. Bowden) (Reference No. 
710)

    115.  In the Space Force there are 20 appointments to the 
grade of colonel and below (list begins with Edward G. 
Ferguson) (Reference No. 711)

    116.  In the Space Force there are 3 appointments to the 
grade of colonel and below (list begins with James J. Watson) 
(Reference No. 712)

    117.  LTG Edwin J. Deedrick, Jr., USA to be lieutenant 
general and United States Military Representative to the North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization Military Committee (Reference 
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    TOTAL: 2,932

    Chairman Reed. The ayes have it. Thank you very much.
    Senator Inhofe, you are recognized.
    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, 
before asking a question I am going to ask Admiral Gilday to 
share with the Committee what happened last Friday and the 
significance of that.
    Admiral Gilday. Last Friday we conducted our first shock 
trial on the USS Gerald R. Ford. The 2016 NDAA requires that 
those shock tests be conducted--it is a series of three tests 
over the next couple of months--before we operationally deploy 
that vessel. Our intent, Senator, is to deploy that vessel in 
2022, and right now we remain on track to do so.
    Senator Inhofe. Are the catapults--how many elevators are 
working?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, right now we have accepted 7 of 11 
elevators. I expect that we will accept two by early fall and 
the remaining two by the end of the year. After the shock 
trials the ship will go into a maintenance availability, we 
will finish up those last two elevators, and then we will get 
her out to deploy in 2022.
    Senator Inhofe. Yes. We have heard a lot of things. As I 
recall, the deployment date would have been 2017, initially, 
and a lot of people have reasons to believe that there is 
justification for a lot of the stalls. I don't agree with that, 
but I certainly agree with you, that you believe that is going 
to happen. I hope you are right, and we have had a lot of 
problems with that particular piece of equipment and it has 
been very, very expensive.
    So, anyway, Admiral Gilday, as I said in my opening 
statement we have a 355-or-more ship goal. Yet this budget is 
only enough for a status quo 300-ship Navy. I hope we can get 
the money needed to build the Navy. I know none of the three of 
you agree--you won't say it but I will say it--you are not 
getting an adequate budget. I can say it and you can't. But 
anyway, we are going to do everything that we can to try to 
make this happen. Cutting a new destroyer, retiring ten ships 
early, fewer F-35C's, these do not seem to be strategic choices 
but rather last-minute, haphazard cuts.
    So anyway, that is what we are faced with right now. We 
have often said the world is the most dangerous right now of 
any period in my lifetime, and since release of 2018 National 
Defense Strategy, the threats have only gotten worse. In fact, 
the NDS Commission said that we need 3 to 5 percent real 
growth--this is overall, not just the Navy--this particular 
year, and obviously that is not going to happen. It is going to 
be something less than a break even, of 1.6 percent, I believe.
    So Admiral Gilday and General Berger, if I were to ask you 
who in the Department of Defense is best positioned to set 
forth structure requirements for the Navy and the Marine Corps, 
I think it is the CNO and the Commandant, and I think you would 
agree with me. The difference is I can say it and you can't. 
But nonetheless, we do have serious problems that we are facing 
right now. Your list of unfunded requirements amounts to $9.3 
billion. This amount shows the difference of between 3 to 5 
percent increase instead of 1.6 percent decrease makes in 
developing a defense budget. Some call this, the things that we 
are asking for right now, a wish list. I do not call them a 
wish list. I call them a risk list. We have to remind 
ourselves--and you folks, the three of you, know this better 
than anyone--that it is the risk that takes lives, and we are, 
I believe, in an unacceptable are.
    So we are going to do the best that we can to increase and 
to develop a budget that we can be proud of, and you will be an 
important part of that.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. Senator 
Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, and thank you to each of you 
for your testimony this morning and for your service to the 
country.
    Admiral Gilday, I would like to begin with you, and I 
appreciated our call last week. You said in your opening 
statement that we are making a once-in-a-century investment in 
our public shipyards, and there is no doubt that the 
investments through the Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization 
Plan (SIOP) are really important.
    At the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, where we are the first to 
get those investments, we have seen significant cost overrun in 
the multi-mission dry dock project, which has to be done if we 
are going to ensure that our submarines are able to be 
maintained and ready when they are needed. So when we talked, 
you discussed two major causes for that overrun, as I recall. 
One was the increased cost of supplies, because of the 
pandemic, but the other one was sort of inaccurate estimates by 
those who were making projections for what the costs of the 
project would be.
    So can you talk about whether that is accurate. Are those 
the two major costs? What else might be contributing to those 
overruns, what we are going to do about it, and where are we 
going to get the money to make sure that that project stays on 
time?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am, I do think that is accurate. In 
terms of raw material we saw significant growth in cost for 
lumber, for cement, and for steel, and that has been pretty 
steady through the pandemic, although it is beginning to level 
off now. I think construction companies have had the same 
challenges.
    The initial estimate was done 2 years ago, and so that was 
a factor. The second, I think more importantly, was the 
complexity of that work. What we have learned from that--and I 
had a discussion with Senator Hirono recently, as we look to a 
multi-mission dry dock in Hawaii--is that we are now bringing 
in industry before we make the estimates, so that we have 
better-informed idea of the complexity of the job.
    As an example, at Portsmouth it makes more sense for the 
contractor to do the foundational work, the fabrication, and 
then to ship it down to the site, rather than to do it in the 
shipyard.
    It is my number one unfunded priority on the list. It came 
in about the same--that estimate, or the estimate in the 
bidding process, and we are still in that sensitive bidding 
acquisition time frame right now. I put it on my unfunded list 
because it is vitally important that we keep the progress of 
that project on pace for the first Virginia-class availability 
in 2026.
    So, ma'am, I ask the Committee's support on that unfunded 
item, but nevertheless, I am committed to keeping that project 
on track, for the very reason I just mentioned.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you. If it is not on track we 
are not going to have the dry dock capacity that we need. Is 
that correct?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am, that is a correct statement.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. There is an article--and I 
don't know, maybe this is for you, Secretary Harker--there is 
an article in Bloomberg this morning. The headline is the 
``U.S. Navy's deadliest new sub are hobbled by spare parts 
woes,'' and it goes on to talk about how the Navy has swapped 
more than 1,600 parts among its new Virginia-class submarines 
since 2013, to ease maintenance bottlenecks.
    Can you talk to why that is occurring? I would just put it 
in the context of, in fiscal year 2020 NDAA this Committee put 
in language raising concern about the supply chain and the 
potential for this kind of shortfalls, and we encouraged--and I 
am quoting from the language--"we encouraged the Navy to better 
communicate the capability of their submarine forecasting 
model. The Committee also encourages the Navy to communicate 
needs in a timely fashion, and encourages the Secretary of 
Defense to support shipbuilding industrial base initiatives to 
maintain readiness and a strong submarine industrial base.''
    It appears that that encouragement has not made much 
difference. We still have this problem. So can you talk to what 
the Navy is doing about it?
    Mr. Harker. Yes, ma'am. The Navy is aware that there are 
some challenges with some of the Virginia-class supply chain. 
There are parts on the Virginia-class that we thought were 
going to be a life-of-the-submarine parts, and they are failing 
more quickly than we had originally envisioned, and so we have 
to go back in and find alternate sources for those parts, and 
they are not something that----
    Senator Shaheen. I am sorry to interrupt, but can you talk 
about why that is happening? Why are they failing faster than 
we anticipated? Were our estimates bad? Are there problems with 
how they are being fabricated? What is going on?
    Mr. Harker. I will have to get back with you on that, 
ma'am.
    Senator Shaheen. I would ask, Mr. Chairman, that they 
report back to the Committee on exactly what is causing that 
shortfall. That would be very helpful, I think.
    Chairman Reed. I would ask that the Secretary and the CNO 
report back promptly.
    Mr. Harker. Yes, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, 
before I begin my questions I would like to put two letters in 
the record, a letter from me, dated June 16, 2021, to General 
Berger, and his response to me, dated June 21, 2021. I would 
like that they be entered into the record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The letters follow:]
    
    
    
    
    Senator Wicker. General Berger, thank you for your service. 
You have been in the military now for over 40 years. Is that 
correct?
    General Berger. That is correct, sir.
    Senator Wicker. Well, I appreciate your service and I 
appreciate you giving us straight advice.
    Now during House Seapower Subcommittee hearing last week, 
Lieutenant General Eric Smith testified that a joint Navy and 
Marine Corps study determined that the requirement for 
traditional amphibious ships is 31, including 10 big-decks and 
21 LSD/LPDs. Is that your assessment also?
    General Berger. It is, sir.
    Senator Wicker. As a matter of fact, you stated that in the 
letter that you sent to me only yesterday. Is that correct?
    General Berger. That is correct, sir.
    Senator Wicker. I am disappointed, shocked, in fact, that 
the so-called 30-year Shipbuilding Plan released last Friday 
calls for a range of 16 to 19 LPDs. It seems to me that the 
Office of Secretary of Defense has some bureaucrats in there 
that are taking over the Pentagon requirements and putting 
armchair opinions on warfighting above those of the men and 
women, like you, with decades of experience in uniform.
    Now let's do the math. Based on the current amphibious 
ships under construction, and the most recent decommissioning 
planning guide as provided by the Navy, by the end of fiscal 
year 2023, the Navy will have a total of 21 LSD/LPDs instead of 
the 21 LSD/LPDs that you say we need.
    Move ahead then to 2025. Based on this same guidance, the 
Navy will have only 17 LSD/LPDs. This falls short, of course, 
of the 21 that you and General Smith have said we need.
    Then based on the current ships under contract, once all of 
the legacy LSDs have been decommissioned, the Navy will have 
only 15 LPDs. Of course, this falls short of the 21 that we are 
being told by the greatest experts that we rely on is a 
requirement.
    Now this Committee, last year, and the Congress of the 
United States, passed, and it was signed into law by the 
President of the United States, the NDAA, and section 124 
provided the Navy with a mechanism to procure two more LPDs to 
fill this gap. If OSD [Office of the Secretary of Defense] 
executes this authority it would save the taxpayers over $700 
million.
    General Berger, you have a need for more LPDs. Does the 
amphibious ship authority provided you in section 124 help you 
meet your warfighting requirement?
    General Berger. It would do both parts which you mentioned, 
Senator. It would meet a warfighting requirement and it would 
save an estimate of $722 million. Correct.
    Senator Wicker. You know, I appreciate you being honest and 
speaking truth to this Committee and to the Congress, and I 
would just say, in response--I do not have time to engage 
Acting Secretary Harker in this--but basically the regretful 
answer that was given today of, ``it sure was hard not to make 
that decision to do this multiple ship procurement but we just 
could not afford it,'' the fact is we could not afford it 
because somebody in the Office of Management and Budget sent 
word to the Pentagon that they were not going to give you 
enough money. I totally agree with Senator Inhofe that we need 
to reverse this.
    I would point out to my colleagues what the Chief of Naval 
Operations has told us today. Numbers are an important metric, 
and clearly in response to what the Chairman asked, they are 
not the only metric, but they are an important metric. We also 
were told, by our leading sailor in the country, if we are 
going to meet the challenge, we are going to need a bigger 
Navy.
    I just say to the people here on the dais, and our 
witnesses today, who are doing the best they can, we have an 
obligation, under the constitution, to defend the United States 
of America and to provide the numbers and financing to do that. 
I totally agree with those on both sides of the dais that this 
is a crying need that we have to meet.
    I yield back, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. Senator 
Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all 
for being here and for your sacrifice and service.
    As you know, I have been working on this issue of trying to 
reduce sexual assault in the military and to try to create a 
military justice system that is worthy of the sacrifice our men 
and women make. Through the work with a number of people on 
this Committee we have put together legislation that now has 66 
co-sponsors, and that legislation essentially says that for all 
serious crimes, except for uniquely military crimes, that the 
decision about whether to prosecute will be taken out of the 
chain of command and given to trained military prosecutors.
    We believe that that one change will professionalize 
military justice. We also think that one change will change the 
view of both survivors and defendants, that the system is less 
biased, because it will be a review by the most highly trained 
individuals, who do not necessarily know the plaintiff or the 
defendant. We think it cures two defects in the military 
justice system today. The first is how it handles sexual 
assault cases--very few are going to trial and even less are 
ending in conviction; it was about 20,000 cases estimated by 
the DOD [Department of Defense] in the last couple of years, 
and in the last 3 years approximately 200 have ended in 
conviction. So each year--we are just not getting better.
    We also have data, over the last 4 years, developed by the 
DOD, that shows there is racial bias, that, in fact, if you are 
a black servicemember you are more likely to be punished. In 
the Navy, for example, the average of the last several years, 
the last 15 years, is you are 1.4 times more likely to be 
punished in the Navy, and in the Marines you are up to 2.61 
times more likely to have a general court martial. So this is 
data that the DOD has collected.
    So we believe this one change could change how the justice 
system is perceived. Many survivors of sexual assault do not 
believe that justice is possible in the current system, and 
among black servicemembers I think 60 percent do not believe 
that they will have a fighting chance, or the same chance as a 
white servicemember to get justice.
    So I would like to know, for each of you, what is your 
perspective on this issue. Do you remain open-minded on what 
solutions would be the best to handle this? As you know, this 
Committee has studied this issue for a decade. We have passed 
nearly 250 reforms to improve the military justice system, as a 
Committee, all of which have been supported by the Department 
of Defense. Unfortunately, none of them have moved the ball and 
none of them have instilled confidence in the system.
    So I would like to know if you have an open mind in 
reviewing this data and information as we begin to try to end 
the scourge of sexual assault and try to remove bias within the 
military justice system, and each of you can answer.
    Mr. Harker. So, ma'am, I will start. For me, I definitely 
have an open mind. We have invested a significant amount of 
money in this current year budget to increase the size of both 
the prevention and the response side for this important issue, 
and it something that we believe is important for us to change.
    Admiral Gilday. Ma'am, I am definite open to an evidence-
based approach to the best way to get after this. I have seen 
much of the data, not all of it, with respect to the racial 
inequities that you pointed out.
    I think the key problem to solve with respect to sexual 
assault is one of trust, and I think that if servicemembers do 
not trust the system that we have in place then I think that it 
is a readiness problem for us, because we have victims that are 
not going to report, they are not going to receive treatment, 
and then we have perpetrators that essentially are not going to 
receive due process. So I am, ma'am, open to new ways of 
looking at getting after it.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Admiral?
    General Berger. I would also remain open-minded, as you 
point out. I think we have the same goals that you highlight. 
We have to reduce the number of sexual assaults. We have to 
restore the trust between victims and their chain of command.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    General Berger. Third, we have to retain the authority of 
commanders to do what they need to do in combat. So I think the 
objectives are the same.
    Senator Gillibrand. I agree.
    Secretary Harker, the Navy has created a military justice 
track. My understanding is that it has been in practice for the 
last 10 to 15 years. My understanding is that there are 
currently 95 military justice litigation career track 
practitioners, 80 percent of whom are in designated litigation 
billets at any given time, and half of those are prosecutors.
    Have you had a problem of being able to fill those roles, 
and in your opinion, has this program created a more 
professional military justice system? Would you recommend it to 
other branches?
    Mr. Harker. Ma'am, based on my limited experience I do not 
think we have had any problem in filing those roles, and it has 
been effective. I think it is something that would be useful 
for others to consider, and it is part of what is being 
considered, as the Secretary looks at all the various options 
during his independent review.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Let me now 
recognize Senator Cotton.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. Admiral Gilday, I want to talk 
about your choice to include books like ``How to be an Anti-
Racist'' and ``The New Jim Crow'' in your professional reading 
list. We discussed this last week in our phone call. Normally I 
would not disclose that conversation, but you said the exact 
same thing in front of the Armed Services Committee in the 
House last week, which I found deeply disappointing. When you 
are asked questions about this, you characterized it as a 
criticism of sailors for being weak. That is a straw man. It is 
not a criticism of sailors being weak. It is a criticism of 
your decision to include these books on your professional 
reading list, which ensigns and sailors across your service 
take very seriously.
    So I just want to give you a sampling of some of the things 
that are included in books like that, the notion that 
capitalism is essentially racist, and racism is essentially 
capitalist. That the only remedy for past discrimination is 
present discrimination. The only remedy for present 
discrimination is future discrimination. That some individuals, 
by virtue of his or her race, are inherently oppressive, or 
privileged, while others are victimized or oppressed. That 
individuals can bear some kind of collective responsibility or 
collective guilt for the actions committed by members of his or 
her race.
    Admiral Gilday, how did these books get on your reading 
list?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I chose a variety of books. There are 
over 50 books in my reading list, to give our sailors a wide 
range of information from which I hope they can make facts-
based decisions on both their ability to look outwardly at 
potential aggressors like China and Russia, as well as looking 
inwardly and being honest with ourselves in area that we need 
to improve.
    In talking to sailors over the past year, it is clearly 
obvious, to me and others, that the murder of George Floyd and 
the events surrounding that, the discussions in this country 
about racism, which go back for years and years and years, are 
still a painful part of our culture, and that talking about 
them, understanding them, is the best approach, and that 
offering books like Kendi's for people to read--and they do not 
have to agree with every assertion that Kendi makes.
    I do not accept every assertion that Kendi makes, and I 
would not think that all sailors would as well. But they need 
to be exposed to it, so that they are making facts-based--we 
need critical thinkers in the Navy and throughout the military, 
in our enlisted force, again, who not only think outwardly but 
inwardly, so that they make objective, hopefully objective 
facts-based decisions, or draw conclusions in a world that it 
is increasingly more difficult to get an unbiased view at a 
really tough problem. Even if they are looking at things on 
social media, artificial intelligence associated with those 
platforms feeds them more of whatever they tend to look at. I 
am offering them one book among 53 as a different perspective.
    Senator Cotton. Yes, I agree there is a lot of information 
like that on social media and in our culture, and you are 
saying, as the senior leader of the Navy, that you want 18-
year-old sailors and 22-year-old ensigns to read a book that 
asserts that capitalism is essentially racist. Do you agree 
that capitalism is essentially racist?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, with all due respect, I am not going 
to engage without understanding the context of statements like 
that. But these are the same sailors----
    Senator Cotton. Admiral, I am sorry, our time is very 
limited here. I know you said this in the House Armed Service 
Committee last week. In what context could the claim that 
capitalism is essentially racist possibly be something with 
which you would agree?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I would have to go back to the book to 
take a look at that, but again, this comes down to trusting 
sailors who are running nuclear power plants on submarines at 
hundreds of feet under the water, under the polar ice cap, that 
are maintaining the highest, the most complicated and complex 
jets in the world. We put them in harm's way every day. Sir, I 
believe that we can trust them to read books like that and to 
draw reasonable conclusions.
    Senator Cotton. Well, it not just a matter of trusting. It 
is a matter of how they spend their time, and you, as the Chief 
of Naval Operations, are suggesting, in your professional 
reading list, that it is a worthwhile endeavor for our sailors 
and ensigns to spend their time reading books like these, as 
opposed to, say, books on maritime strategy or basic seafaring 
skills, which also are included on your list. But there are 
plenty that are not included on your list that I think could 
also benefit them. I mean, the Navy has had genuine cultural 
problems now for many years, whether it is the McCain and the 
Fitzgerald having collisions in the Western Pacific, the 
Bonhomme Richard catching fire in port, the Fat Leonard 
scandal, a Navy SEAL team being recalled from Iraq because of a 
breakdown in basic military order, a patrol boat in the Persian 
Gulf surrendering to what is a little more than Iranian fishing 
boat. The Navy has had some genuine cultural problems and drift 
and lack of focus that it needs to address. Assigning books 
like these and encouraging your sailors to take the time to do 
so is not a way for the Navy to regain its focus, Admiral.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator 
Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
your service and for being here today. I want to begin, Admiral 
Gilday, I know from your visit to Connecticut, Electric Boat 
Dynamics, the boat yard there, that you are a strong believer 
in our submarine program. I was pleased to see that the Navy 
has requested two Virginia-class submarines in the fiscal year 
2022 budget proposal and has exercised the option to build a 
tenth Virginia-class submarine, recognizing how important this 
amazing technology is to our national defense. I am hopeful 
that you continue to strongly support this program.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. Consistently the analysis that we 
have done, the wargaming, the exercises, the deep analysis that 
the Pentagon, and analysis inside and outside the Pentagon has 
placed a high value on attack submarines with respect to 
survivability and lethality as our Nation's best strike 
platform.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. On June 15, just days ago, 
the Associated Press reported that the United States military 
has had losses of 1,900 lost or stolen weapons over the past 
decade. This staggering number is probably only a fraction of 
the total. It included assault rifles, fully automatic machine 
guns, armor-piercing grenade launchers. Some of these weapons 
have been found in connection with crimes committed with them. 
I hope you agree that this kind of lost or stolen weapon has to 
be stopped.
    Can you tell me how many weapons, similar to the ones I 
have mentioned, have been lost or stolen from the Navy or 
Marine Corps armories in the last 10 years?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, based on the initial results of the 
investigation that is ongoing it is about 240 weapons for the 
Navy. I am interested in learning deeper, as our investigation 
continues along with the other services to find out what laps 
in accounting led to those losses. Some of them might have been 
training losses, but specifically the root cause so that we can 
get after it and correct it.
    Senator Blumenthal. Do you have a number for the Marine 
Corps, General Berger?
    General Berger. Sir, I do not want to give you an 
inaccurate number, but I will get you that number. If 10 years 
is the horizon you are looking at, we will get you that 
accurate number.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    General Berger. After an extensive review of 10 years of 
data (as of 3 Aug 2021), the Marine Corps has 31 weapons for 
which we cannot account. The numbers that had been reported by 
the media around the time of this hearing included combat 
losses and weapons destroyed or lost as the result of mishaps.

    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Can you tell me, perhaps 
both you, Admiral, and General, what is the system for the Navy 
and the Marine Corps tracking and accounting for conventional 
arms, ammunition, and explosives that may be lost or stolen?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I can say with a high degree of 
certainty it is done at the individual unit level. So in the 
case of the Navy specifically, at each ship. I cannot speak 
with a high degree of specificity of the tracking beyond. When 
a weapon is lost, there are reports that are made, there are 
investigations that are done, but how that is tracked in the 
aggregate I do not have a good answer for you at the moment, 
sir.
    Mr. Harker. So sir, if I could add in, this is something 
that is actually looked at during our financial statement audit 
every year. Our independent public accountants that work for 
the Department of Defense Office of the Inspector General (OIG) 
go out and do inventory testing on the accuracy of our 
inventory around our small arms or ammunition, that type of 
thing. So it is something that is tested annual. Both the Navy 
and the Marine Corps have done better than our peers in the 
Army and Air Force, and it is something that we do take very 
seriously.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. I would like to follow up on 
that area, but in the remaining time that I have I wanted to 
ask about a study that was released yesterday. Brown 
University's Cost of War Project reported that the number of 
veterans and servicemembers who have died by suicide since 
September 11, 2001, is more than quadruple the number who died 
in the wars during this same period. The study estimates that 
7,057 servicemembers have been killed in post-9/11 war 
operations while 30,177 Active Duty servicemembers and veterans 
have died by suicide. Quadruple. That is really an astonishing 
number.
    It goes on to say the average suicide rate for post-9/11 
veterans between 18 to 34 was 32.3 per 100,000, between 2005 
and 2017, but it rose to 45.9 per 100,000 in 2018. That is 
about 2.5 times the rate in the general population.
    There is no way that we can adequately address this topic 
this morning, but I would like an explanation from everyone on 
this panel as to what you think the causes are for this 
phenomenon, which is so deeply concerning, and what we can do 
about it. I know this topic has been a longstanding issue for 
all the services, and I think that it has to be raised to a 
much higher priority than it has been given so far.
    Mr. Harker. Yes, sir. This is something that we are 
investing significantly in, in this year's budget. We are 
putting $22 million towards mental health. Our fiscal year 2021 
amount was $21 million. We are more than doubling that going 
into this current budget cycle, because we believe that 
embedding mental health practitioners at the front, with 
sailors and marines, is probably the best way to get at this. 
We are also increasing the number of chaplains and the number 
of clergy members that are there to provide support as well.
    So this is something that we take very seriously, and we 
have been working to both destigmatize getting treatment as 
well as providing additional services for our sailors and 
marines.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. I would just suggest that 
more of the same is not going to work. It has to be a 
reinventing, a re-energizing, a re-imagining of how mental 
health is addressed in the military. But again, I am no expert, 
and I really welcome a thorough study and action. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, let me 
begin by just saying thank you for your service to our country, 
at a time like this, in which we are looking at a budget which, 
to me, appears to be a little bit on the disingenuous side. I 
would like to just point out one item with regard to previous 
contracts, and then Acting Secretary Harker, I would like to 
have your response.
    The Navy's overall shipbuilding budget--and, by the way, I 
come from South Dakota where we do not build ships, but I care 
deeply about making sure that we have a consistency in our 
national defense--the Navy's overall shipbuilding budget 
decreased in this budget by $700 million, from $23.4 billion to 
$22.6 billion, but the budget includes purchase of one Arleigh 
Burke-class destroyer. Previously, it had been planned to 
purchase two. In fact, the Government has already agreed to 
purchase just the one. In this particular case it would breach 
a contract that the Government had previously agreed to with 
Ingalls Shipbuilding and General Dynamics Bath Ironworks back 
in 2018. At that time, the Government had agreed to buy one 
destroyer from each shipyard per year, including fiscal year 
2022. Now a second Arleigh Burke destroyer at $1.6 billion is 
at the top now of the Navy's Unfunded Requirement List, 
recognizing that there was already a contract in place and that 
we are trying to rebuild a supply chain and trying to at least 
get some consistency so that these shipyards are maintained.
    What is the logic in a budget which has an unfunded request 
attached to it when you already have a contract that says that 
you have agreed to purchase two instead of one?
    Mr. Harker. Sir, that was our biggest regret going through 
this budget process.
    Senator Rounds. I am sorry. Could you say that again?
    Mr. Harker. That was our biggest regret going through this 
budget process was that we could not fit that destroyer into 
our budget. As we looked at the balance between readiness and 
the cost of operations, maintenance, and personnel going up, 
and the challenge with new capacity, and then also maintaining 
the current capacity, we just could not afford to put that 
destroyer into the budget.
    Senator Rounds. Admiral Gilday, naval fighter aircraft are 
among our most important front-line weapons systems in 
confronting China, and this budget proposal cuts their 
procurement by 15.6 percent. Now as the Navy cuts its number of 
operational F/A-18's from 150 to a proposed 50--and I recognize 
that the year in which we achieved 50 has not yet been 
released--how do we fill the gap which is created in readiness, 
especially considering that the Navy has only requested, this 
year, 20 F-35C's instead of what had been anticipated, at least 
as last year, 26. So we are going down in the number of fifth-
gen aircraft that we are purchasing. At the same time, we are 
anticipating that our fourth-gen aircraft, Hornets, we are 
talking about decreasing them from 150 to 50 operational units. 
How does that jive?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, the Navy's goal is to have a mix of 
fourth- and fifth-gen, and we will be at five squadrons that 
have that mix by 2025. Right now we have over 500--543, I 
think--Super Hornets, and that number goes above 600 when we 
complete the latest procurement and delivery that was in the 
2021 budget.
    So what we are doing with the Block 4's, our older Block 
4's, is we are actually increasing the life on those jets by 5 
or 6 years. We are upgrading the computer systems on them and 
upgrading their range, with respect to fuel. With the fifth-
gen, one of the regrets is the number that we are purchasing 
this year. However, on my Unfunded List I have five more. I am 
a believer in the fifth-gen aircraft. I am believer in the mix. 
Consistently the studies and the wargaming that we have done 
has shown that that fourth- and fifth-gen mix is a winner in 
the battle space.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I have got some 
other questions but I will leave them for the record at this 
time. My time is expiring.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rounds. Senator 
Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Before I begin I 
would like to state, for the record, Secretary Harker and 
Admiral Gilday, I remain concerned about the safety of the fuel 
tanks at Red Hill facility, especially after the recent release 
of 1,000 gallons of fuel. It is imperative that the Navy is 
transparent on this issue and provides open and frequent 
information to Congress and the public, because, of course, 
people on Oahu are very concerned about contamination of their 
drinking water due to these situations that occur at Red Hill. 
So I expect that you share my concern.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Hirono. That is fine. Thank you. I also would like 
to note that I support efforts to more effectively prevent 
sexual assault and harassment in the military and the changes 
to the UCMJ [Uniform Code of Military Justice] that will get us 
to that point, and, of course, I very much thank Senator 
Gillibrand for her leadership.
    I would like to get to the shipyard modernization issues 
that Senator Shaheen mentioned. I share her concerns. So for 
Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, I would like to get you 
both on the record that construction of a new dry dock at Pearl 
Harbor will begin in fiscal year 2023. Why is that important? 
Because you have--well, I have been told that it will take 5 
years for this dry dock to be built, and that is about the time 
frame--that is the time frame when the new Virginia-class 
submarine is delivered.
    So can I get your commitment, because the concern is that 
with the kind of cost overruns that are already happening at 
Portsmouth, you know, I want to make sure that Pearl Harbor 
will be timely addressed?
    Mr. Harker. Yes, ma'am. We are committed to the Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Plan, especially all the 
improvements at Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor Navy Shipyard was 
the first one that I ever visited in my tenure, and I am very 
committed to improving.
    Senator Hirono. The timing of it, of course, is really 
important, so Admiral Gilday?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am. It honestly is at the top of 
our priority list as we go into the fiscal year 2023 budget 
bill for MilCon [Military Construction]. I think, as I 
mentioned earlier, we are about to have a conference with 
industry out in Hawaii early next month, to get a better 
understanding of the scope, the estimate. We think right now 
that that project is probably in the 6- to 7-year time frame, 
based on the phasing. But we would like to get rolling as soon 
as possible on that effort.
    Senator Hirono. Yes, because the timing of that dry dock 
has to be pretty much in conjunction with the delivery of the 
Virginia-class submarine.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. I am glad that you are meeting 
with industry, because one of the explanations of what is 
happening at Portsmouth is that you did not really deal with 
the complexity of the work. So I am glad that is definitely a 
lesson learned. We do not want to see the kind of cost overruns 
at Pearl Harbor that we are seeing at Portsmouth.
    It is my understanding, Secretary Harker, that Secretary 
Hicks has ordered 11 missile interceptors transferred from 
research and development for deployment on Navy ships in the 
Pacific after a test to simulate an attack at Hawaii by North 
Korea in November indicated that they could stop an ICBM 
[markupistic Missile]. Although current sensors were adequate 
to intercept this one shot, we know from MDA [Missile Defense 
Agency] and CAPE [Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation] that 
current sensors will not be adequate for the future 
capabilities of our adversaries.
    Won't these ship-based interceptors need a more advanced 
radar to combat future capabilities such as HOR-H [Homeland 
Defense Radar-Hawaii]?
    Mr. Harker. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker?
    Mr. Harker. While I am not an expert in all of the MDA 
pieces, I do understand the need for that.
    Senator Hirono. For HDR-Hawaii?
    Mr. Harker. Yes. I understand the requirement.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. You probably know that I am very 
concerned about the fact that there is no funding for HDR-
Hawaii in this year's budget, and we need to keep this project 
going if we are going to be prepared for a scenario where our 
adversaries, particularly North Korea, will be developing their 
capabilities.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Let me recognize 
Senator Tillis, please.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for being here, and General Berger, thank you for the time 
that we spent at breakfast a few weeks ago.
    Secretary Harker, I would like to start maybe with just a 
general statement, I do not expect you to respond to it, but on 
the subject of military sexual assault, and really more of a 
broad-based change to the UCMJ. I think it is very important 
for the service Secretaries and those are vetting the 
commission report to get us information as quickly as possible. 
Now we are less than 3 weeks away from beginning the NDAA 
markup. The only thing we have now is something that I have 
heard from the DOD, that they have expressed concerns with the 
scope and the technical challenges of a 6-month implementation, 
but we really have to get the leaders over in the DOD to get us 
information quickly, or it is simply not going to be considered 
before you may have entirely new framework foisted upon you.
    But I do want to ask you all, Admiral Gilday and Secretary 
Harker, about Fleet Readiness Center (FRC) East. I know General 
Berger went down there and visited recently. A lot of the 
underlying facilities were established about the same time 
Buddy Holly was top in the charts, and they are antiquated 
facilities. It is like a Rubik's Cube when you are moving 
equipment around to actually do servicing, and so much so that 
I think Lockheed Martin is talking about, or considering their 
own depot maintenance facility. There are over 4,000 people 
that are employed down there. They are doing great work. We 
have done work like getting the money for the security fencing 
down there, securing in fiscal year 2018 the lift fan facility 
funding. But these projects are not online yet, and I do not 
even think the lift fan facility is under contract.
    So am I reading it right, that FRC East is still considered 
to be an important part of airframe maintenance? They do 
airframe maintenance for several lines of service, and 
certainly they are a key for the B variant for the Joint Strike 
Fighter. What should I read in some of these projects shifting 
to the right or not moving ahead?
    Mr. Harker. It definitely an important base for us and an 
important place where we do depot maintenance. I think the----
    Chairman Reed. Microphone, Mr. Secretary.
    Mr. Harker.--something that is tied to the funding 
constraints when you need to fit things into the budget.
    Senator Tillis. Admiral Gilday, anything to add?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. Similar to the SIOP for 
shipyards, we have the FIOP [Fleet Infrastructure Organization 
Plan] for fleet repair facilities, and we just started that 
effort and we are prioritizing those projects. I owe you a 
better answer, sir, and will come back with what the potential 
timelines look like, and, of course, how they might play out as 
we get into the 2023 budget bill.
    Senator Tillis. Yes, I understand you all have got 
competing priorities and limited funds, so I understand. But we 
will be submitting for the record some of the specific projects 
that are required now in a matter of less than 2 years that 
have not even started. So we know that things are going to 
shift to the right, so I would like to get an update on those. 
I will not run through the details here but will submit them 
for the record.
    I also want to ask you a question about personnel 
shortfalls, for Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. The 
Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a report on 
crew fatigue in the surface force that found crew shortfalls 
were worse than previously reported. GAO reported that until 
recently the Navy measured shortfalls based on the number of 
funded positions rather than the number actually required for 
the safe operation of a vessel. The study also found 
inconsistent implementation of fatigue management measures.
    So how are you working to ensure a safe and adequately 
crewed surface for our sailors? What are we going to do 
differently? I know you are new into the role, so looking back, 
what do we need to do differently, or looking forward, what are 
we going to do differently?
    Mr. Harker. So the report, we are still working on our 
response to the report, but I think some of the things we have 
done is we have shifted how we track things from, as you said, 
the number of funded billets to the actual number of required 
billets. So that is something that we have shifted as we track 
and measure things going forward. We have also increased the 
number of billets on our seagoing for ships and invested in 
filling those billets and improve the fill ratio.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, for the past 3\1/2\ years we have 
increased our sailors at sea by 23,000. We have more sailors at 
sea today than we had in 2014.
    The gaps that we see right now in the data that I look at 
is less than 5 percent of our billets at sea are gaps. That is 
not satisfactory. It needs to be zero. What led to this effort 
to fund all those billets, and why it is so important goes 
right back to what we learned from those collisions in 2017. So 
it is a priority for us.
    The Secretary said, in the beginning, in terms of 
prioritizing current readiness as our top priority, that gets 
right to manning, equipping, and training the force at adequate 
levels.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you. General Berger, I am out of time 
but I will be submitting a few questions that have more to do 
with some of your strategy and the future of the Marine Corps, 
right-sizing. But thank you all for your service, and I look 
forward to speaking with you individually.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Now let me now 
recognize Senator Kaine.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Ranking Member 
Inhofe. Admiral Gilday, I was going to ask other questions but 
I am sort of inspired to follow up a little bit, from Senator 
Cotton, on your reading list, because when I saw that there was 
controversy about it I pulled up the reading list. Mr. Chair, I 
would like to introduce the CNO's 2021 reading list into the 
record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
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    Senator Kaine. So as I look at it there are 53 books on the 
reading list, which would probably be, you know, tens of 
thousands of pages, and I read your intro statement about the 
Navy history, beginning with every ship would have 37 books on 
it that would be recommended to sailors. This is a voluntary 
reading list to basically train leaders, and I think the motto 
that you used to kind of summarize this is ``Read well to lead 
well.'' Isn't that right?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes sir, it is.
    Senator Kaine. As I look at the list, it is a pretty 
remarkably broad category of books. There are books about naval 
history. There are books about particular naval operations, 
SEAL Team Six. There are books about particular weapons 
systems, like autonomous aerial or marine vehicles or robotics 
or the use of artificial intelligence. There is a lot about 
kind of, you know, naval history and weapons systems, a lot 
about strategy. A lot of the books are about sort of individual 
leadership traits, maybe specifically to the military, officers 
eat last. But also a lot of book that are not military at all 
that are really about leadership traits, as I look at the list.
    There are book that tackle contemporary issues in society, 
like racism or the second-class status that many women have 
perceived throughout history, and those seem to be designed to 
make people maybe put themselves in somebody else's shoes, to 
think about somebody else. Those do not seem that controversial 
to me. There is nothing in the intro to the reading list where 
you are saying, you know, ``I agree with every assertion made 
in each of these 53 books,'' and the list is not offered as any 
kind of mandate or, you know, thought direction. You are just 
wanting people to make sure that they consider broadly both 
strategy and history and the perspectives as others as they 
tackle the important and patriotic task of being military 
leaders. Isn't that right?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, and if I could say, on the 
booking question by a gentleman named Kendi, the reason why 
that is on the list is because we stood up a task force called 
Task Force One Navy, after George Floyd's murder, and that 
essentially came down to conversations in small groups, at 
every command in the Navy, so that people could tell their 
story, courageously come forward and tell their stories.
    So Kendi tells his story as a black American growing up and 
the challenges that he faced, but he is also very self-
critical. I do not agree with every assertion that Kendi makes 
and every conclusion he draws, but I did find it to be a very 
helpful read, particularly in light of those conversations that 
we were having, and that is why I put it on the recommended 
list. I know that some question that choice, but it really does 
get to critical thinking, as I spoke to earlier, in a day and 
age where it is really difficult sometimes to get right to the 
facts and for people to make value judgments.
    Senator Kaine. You even have a book on the list that I 
thought was an interesting one. I can't remember the title but 
it was about how to talk about difficult subjects in a really 
easy way. So it is kind of like you can't talk about that at 
work, how to talk about race, politics, and religion. Because 
in many workplaces those can be divisive, and they are divisive 
if you do not talk about them or they are divisive if you talk 
about them in the wrong way----
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir.
    Senator Kaine.--in a military composed of the entire cross-
spectrum of American society. It is good to be able to talk 
about tough issues and talk about them in a way where people 
are respectful and listen to one another. Isn't that true?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, and so back to the conversations 
we were having, specifically on ships, some people needed to 
understand how to get the ball rolling, how to introduce these 
conversations in a way that were not controversial or 
provocative but in a useful kind of way, to learn from each 
other. We think it has been helpful. We are trying to continue 
it, and, sir, thanks for deepening the discussion on this.
    Senator Kaine. Yes, deepening the discussion. One of your 
books is called Deep Thinking. It is by Gary Kasparov, and it 
is about how human creativity is even more powerful than the 
most advanced automation or computers.
    So, you know, look, the military has got to defend this 
country, and even though depends, to some degree, on platforms, 
it still depends most on people, and not people working in 
their own little sphere and not connected to others, but people 
working in groups. If people are going to work in groups in a 
diverse society there are going to be a lot of people in the 
group who are not exactly like them, and books that help you 
understand others' perspective, hey, even books that make you 
feel uncomfortable. My favorite book is the Bible, but I don't 
like ``the last shall come first and the first shall come 
last.'' That makes me a little bit uncomfortable, I am not sure 
there is good book, a really good book, in the history of the 
written word that has not made some people uncomfortable, and a 
book that just made everybody feel completely comfortable, I am 
not sure it lands on any great books list at all.
    So I do not discourage you from what you are trying to do, 
to enable people to read broadly and then see the world through 
each other's perspectives, so that they can work better 
together as unit to defend the Nation.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Let me recognize 
Senator Cramer, please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and leave it to 
Senator Kaine to change the topic completely, but I can't 
resist.
    In these times that we are going through, where it is 
difficult to start a discussion, to your point and your 
reference to scripture, I am reminded that scripture tells us--
it doesn't tell us to be careful. Well, it tells us to be 
careful how we treat people, but it also tells us to stop being 
offended so easily. I think part of the problem--and, Admiral, 
I admire you for wanting to enhance critical thinking, but to 
have critical thinking you have to have critical conversations, 
and so, anyway, good work. I applaud you for it, and I will 
leave it at that. But you never know what is going to on in 
SASC, right guys?
    But back to the other topics--and thank you all for being 
here and for your service, of course. When we talk about the 
goal of 460 ships, the Chinese goal of 460 ships by 2030, we 
are not even really considering their militia or the Coast 
Guard, which it is my understanding basically doubles that 
number of assets available to them.
    If we had to forcibly maintain freedom of navigation to 
locations like South Korea or Taiwan or any number of others, 
how much of an additional problem are the militia assets and 
the Coast Guard assets? I will start with you, Admiral.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I think they are problem just in terms 
of numbers, but what we have in our favor, besides a pretty 
robust, forward-deployed force we have, are really strong 
networks of allies and partners, and that network is growing. 
The Brits, their first carrier in a generation, is now headed 
over to the Western Pacific. We work very closely with the 
French, with the South Koreans, with Japanese, with the 
Australians, with the Canadians, and the list goes on and on. 
We are sailing with them, operating with them every day, and I 
think that is something that China does not have, and they wish 
they did.
    We really do value it. I just had the Dutch CNO over for 
dinner the other night. I will meet with another head of Navy 
next week. I was just in Denmark, and I was in Toulon, France, 
with both the First Sea Lord from the Royal Navy and also the 
Chief of Navy from the French Navy, and those partnerships are 
just key.
    Senator Cramer. Great reminders. Secretary, did you want to 
add anything to that, or just agree?
    Mr. Harker. I am sorry. I missed the question.
    Senator Cramer. Did you want to add anything to what the 
Admiral was saying, or just agree?
    Mr. Harker. No, sir. I believe that we have the power and 
credibility to deter our enemies over there.
    Senator Cramer. So where I want to go next, and this may be 
a little less conventional, and this is real important back 
home. So here I come from this agricultural state in the middle 
of the North American continent, right, and we are talking to 
Navy guys.
    But in 2020, United States agricultural exports to the 
Pacific included $11.7 billion to Japan, $7.7 billion to South 
Korea, $3.4 billion to Vietnam, $3.3 billion to Taiwan, $3.2 
billion to the Philippines, and $2.8 billion to Indonesia, and 
on and on it goes, obviously. A lot of hungry people. A lot of 
hungry people out in the Pacific that like what we grow in 
places like North Dakota and throughout our country.
    In this 2030 scenario, could we guarantee we would have 
shipping access to all or any of these important trading 
partners?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I think that is the crux of the issue 
with respect to how our investment----
    Senator King. Admiral, can you get a little closer to the 
mic, please?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, that is the crux of our investment 
strategy, to make sure that we can keep the Navy forward and be 
relevant. So at any given day we have got about a third of the 
Navy at sea. We think that is what we need, and not only 
training but also deployed, to have that presence forward, to 
maintain those open sea lanes and keep that trade flowing.
    We saw what happened in the Suez recently. That should be a 
lesson for all of us, that at a cost of $9 billion a day, it 
does not take much to upset global trade through those key 
chokepoints.
    Senator Cramer. Well, and to your point you made to the 
previous question regarding the important partnerships, 
obviously we have to always be reminded of that, because when 
you look at just the volume, as you said, the assets that they 
have, the shipyards that they have, both commercial and naval, 
obviously it can be a little bit overwhelming.
    Anyway, getting off on the reading list tangent cost me a 
little bit of time, but it was all worth it. Thank you, all. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer. Senator King, 
please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the most 
telling chart in the presentation that you gave us this morning 
is on page six. It is the Department of Navy total obligation 
authority, and the telling line is the yellow line, which is 
``constant dollars.'' What it shows is that we are actually 
either flat or slightly below--you saw me trying to figure it 
out here--we are slightly below the level of expenditure for 
the Navy as in 2010.
    Admiral, the strategic challenge to this country has 
changed dramatically since 2010, has it not?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. It certainly has. I would agree 
with that.
    Senator King. It has changed from the global war on terror 
to near-peer competition, particularly with China and Russia, 
which is a more conventional kind of adversarial challenge. Is 
that correct?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, but the only thing I would add is 
that the character of conflict is changing as well, with our 
focus on space and cyber as well as the conventional domains.
    Senator King. But still, the point is it is difficult to 
argue that a flat budget, since 2010 to today, given the rise 
of the Chinese Navy, for example, it seems to me that is tough 
to justify, and I know that these were not your decisions.
    I want to go back to something Senator Rounds asked, about 
the DDG. Just let's get it on the record. If that multiyear 
contract is breached, the Government will have to pay a $33 
million penalty. Is that not correct, Mr. Secretary?
    Mr. Harker. Yes, sir, it is.
    Senator King. You have told me, both in the hearing today 
and previously, that this was the toughest decision that you 
had to face. The point I want to make about this is not only 
the lack of the destroyer but the impact that this decision has 
on the industrial base, not only in the immediate future, in 
terms of how many people do you need to build the ships, but 
also the principle of breaking a multiyear I would argue sends 
a shudder through the industrial base, in terms of their 
investment. If they are going to make major, $100 million 
investments in shipbuilding capacity, and also in training of 
new shipbuilders, they have to have some confidence that there 
is a stream of demand coming.
    Mr. Secretary, you understand that, I am sure.
    Mr. Harker. I do. Yes, sir.
    Senator King. Admiral, you saw it at Bath Iron Works, the 
number of people that they are hiring and the problem of the 
cliff, in terms of future production. Now I understand you 
cannot guarantee ships into the indefinite future, but you 
understand the impact of the sort of chilling effect that the 
breaching of the multiyear might have on investment and on 
workforce.
    Admiral Gilday. Absolutely, sir, and if I take a look at, 
as an example, the Columbia-class, we know we are going to 
build X amount of submarines. So that gives those companies a 
clear set of headlights in terms of where are we going, so that 
they can make infrastructure investments with a high degree of 
confidence. We saw what happened in Bath, with the Zumwalts, 
when we only built 3 and we thought we were going to build 30, 
and they made significant investments that never panned out, 
and so it is not lost on me, the significant negative impact on 
the industrial base with decisions like this, sir.
    Senator King. Well, and the problem is, as you know I live 
near Bath, you cannot turn the industrial base off and on. If 
it goes down, you are talking about welders going somewhere 
else, and in this economy they are going to go somewhere else, 
and so I think that is the national security challenge involved 
here.
    The other piece that is the challenge of this budget is--
this has occurred to me for a long time. We are having a total 
rebuild of our nuclear deterrent capacity at the same time as a 
100-year rebuild of our depot maintenance capacity, and the 
problem, those are two sort of one-time expenditures that are 
sort of varying or altering what would otherwise be a normal 
budget. I call them the pig in the python of the Navy budget. 
There is bulge that we are having to deal with, and that is 
constraining everything else. Mr. Secretary, is that true?
    Mr. Harker. Yes, sir. It has given us unprecedented 
challenges to try to recapitalize the Columbia as well as the 
shipyards and grow the Navy.
    Senator King. But I think we should look on these as sort 
of one-time events rather than business as usual, because we 
are not going to recapitalize the strategic deterrent every 5 
years, and we are not going to recapitalize the shipyards.
    Final point is on the DDG(X) planning. We talked about the 
Ford today. We had a full hearing on the Ford a couple of years 
ago, and one of the principal things that we learned from that 
hearing was don't do R&D while you are building the ship, 
because the catapult and the elevator were both new, and here 
we are still dealing with the elevators.
    So I hope, to both of you, that you will work with the 
shipyards to minimize what I call the first ship premium. The 
more fully developed the plans and requirements are before the 
contracts are bid, the better you are going to do in terms of 
price and performance on those ships. That is just based on 
what we have seen in the past.
    Admiral, I hope that you are going to follow a course of 
working with the shipyards and having the engineering as 
complete as possible before we force these shipyards to bid 
with considerable risk built in.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, that is the plan. In fact, we are 
talking to both Bath and Ingalls right now, all stakeholders in 
the same room as we talk about the design of that ship. So 
similar to what we did when we went from, let's say, the 
Ticonderoga-class cruiser to the Arleigh Burke destroyer, we 
are changing the hull, right, but the combat system is going to 
remain the same. So to the point you made about Ford, we are 
not looking for a build where we are going to have to pull off 
successive miracles to get a ship to sea on time.
    Senator King. Thank you very much for your service, all of 
you. Thank you, General Berger.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Let me now 
recognize Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and gentlemen, 
thank you for your testimony today and your service to our 
Nation.
    Look, I want to agree with Senator Inhofe here. There is a 
lot of discussion about difficult choices, and you are up here 
and you cannot admit it but you do not like this budget. We 
know that. I do not like this budget. This is not difficult 
choices. This is bad choices.
    If you look at where the Biden administration is 
prioritizing our military, it is dead last, that and homeland 
Security. After inflation it is actually cut. Every other 
agency gets a double-digit increase, but for the military and 
defense of our Nation it is dead last.
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    Now this is a very bipartisan Committee, and I want to 
thank the Chairman, because I think he is doing a great job. I 
want to thank my friend, Angus King, because I also think he is 
doing it. But I am going to ask my colleagues, particularly my 
Democratic colleagues, for help, for help--let's see the one on 
China--because at the national Democratic level, whether it 
Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders, with their Defend the 
Pentagon amendment last year to the NDAA, that was 14 percent 
across-the-board cuts, for that budget, or what we are doing 
with competing with China. That shows China increasing its 
defense budget about, on average, 10 percent a year over the 
last decade. We have decreased it, Obama-Biden, 25 percent 
cuts--25 percent cuts, second term. That is just crazy.
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    We tried to rebuild it when the Republicans were in power. 
Now we are cutting again. We cannot do this. We cannot do this. 
So my colleagues, I am asking, help us. That is the trend.
    So let me just ask, Admiral, General Berger, if these 
trends continue--I am not going to ask you to comment on the 
budget, but Admiral, I was very appreciative of your statement, 
if the Navy's top line remains flat, the fleet will decrease, 
but we need a larger, more capable fleet. If these trends 
continue, flat, or actually this is a declining military 
budget--again, if you are Department of Education you get a 40 
percent increase to your budget. You guys get a 4 percent cut.
    If these trends continue, what will this do, specifically 
Admiral and General, to our ability to compete against China, 
in the long term? I am not asking for you to comment on this 
budget. I am asking you, declining budgets, what will that do. 
Sir?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, it is going to cause us to make some 
difficult choices in terms of priorities, and it will be that 
tension between current day, current readiness, and 
modernization, and making tough choices in terms of where the--
--
    Senator Sullivan. But more directly, if we are--sorry to 
interrupt--if we have declining budgets, which the Biden 
administration clearly wants, okay. That is what they do. No 
offense to my national Democratic--not the ones here. Not the 
ones here on this Committee, but overall, go look at the 
chairman of the Budget Committee right now. He wants a 25 
percent cut to the U.S. military, Bernie Sanders. Our ability 
to compete with China will be dramatically diminished, won't 
it?
    Admiral Gilday. So I think that chiefs have been consistent 
about our best advice is a 3 to 5 percent growth profile would 
put us in a place where we think we need to be to both compete, 
deter, and win, if it comes to a conflict.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. General, do you have a view on 
this? Again, if the trends continue. I am not asking you to 
comment on today's budget. I know it is difficult for you as 
the witness because you do not like this budget. I know you do 
not like this budget. I cannot stand this budget. But what do 
you think, General?
    General Berger. What has to remain consistent is the notion 
of a pacing threat, as you highlight, Senator. That means they 
are moving, we are moving. The trends continue, as you point 
out. If they continue to invest at the rate that they are 
going, and we do not maintain pace with that, then we will 
widen a gap, in other words, increase the risk strategically to 
our country.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask one more specific thing, and 
it is really a joint thing between the Navy and the Marine 
Corps. General Berger, again, I really appreciate all you are 
doing on the force design and your very strategic and 
innovative thinking with regard to the Marines. What sea denial 
capability does the Marine Corps currently have, and what 
capabilities will Naval Strike Missile and Tactical Tomahawk 
give the Marine Corps? Admiral, to you, how important is it to 
you that the Marine Corps be able to conduct these sea denial 
missions to support the Navy? This is a really integrated 
element of your strategy. It is Marine Corps and Navy. I think 
a lot of people--I know the Congress cut this last year, and I 
think it was a mistake. Do the two of you have a view on that?
    General Berger. Today we have a very limited capability. I 
mean, you could probably, on one hand, less than four or five 
of the capabilities that contribute directly to sea denial. We 
need a ground-based, anti-ship capability so that we can lock 
down certain, especially key choke points that the fleet 
commander, the Joint Force commander need to control. The anti-
ship missile, the NMESIS [Navy/Marine Corps Expeditionary Ship 
Interdiction System], the Naval Strike Missile, and the larger, 
longer-range, the Maritime Strike Tomahawk, those give us the 
ability to control straits, to lock down an area that the fleet 
commander needs to control.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I agree with the Commandant, and I 
think that the analysis that we have done and we have 
presented, it requires a different mix of both traditional 
battle force ships but also new amphibious ships and combat 
logistics ships in order to yield more combat power in a 
distributed way. We understand how we think we need to fight in 
the future, and the plan that we have presented, the analysis 
that we have done, I think puts us on a path to yield the kind 
of power that you introduced and the Commandant followed up on.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Senator Warren 
is recognized via Webex.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you all 
for being here today.
    Admiral Gilday, I would like to address the Navy's efforts 
on predicting more fuel-efficient engines for the surface 
fleet. One of these technologies is the Hybrid Electric Drive, 
the HED, system, which uses an electric motor to improve the 
ship's overall fuel efficiency, consuming less fuel and 
lowering its total costs.
    A GAO report in November 2020 detailed how the Navy had 
decided to suspend the HED program and pursue a different 
research effort, the Propulsion Derived Ship Service, PDSS. The 
report also stated that the Navy did not fully assess the costs 
and benefits or complete the testing of the HED system before 
making its decision, and could not provide any information on 
why it is necessary to suspend the HED program in order to 
pursue the PDSS research effort.
    So Admiral Gilday, after spending over $100 million of 
taxpayer money on the development, purchase, and upgrade of six 
HED systems, would you say that the Navy made the right 
decision in suspending the HED program?
    Admiral Gilday. Ma'am, I am familiar with the report, but I 
really need to go back and take a look at the conclusions and 
then the recommendations, and I would like to come back to you 
with the details.
    Senator Warren. Well, can you say something about what 
factors went into the decision for suspending the HED system?
    Admiral Gilday. Ma'am, I cannot with a degree of 
specificity that I think this topic deserves.
    Senator Warren. Well, Admiral, the GAO report mentioned 
that the system requires little maintenance, per the commanding 
officer and crew of the USS Truxtun and senior Navy engineers. 
Also, according to the Navy's January 2020 report to Congress, 
the system was designed for low-speed operations which comprise 
more than a third of a typical DDG's operating profile.
    So the report I am reading, it does not match up with the 
conclusion here. So it is my understanding that the PDSS is 
still in its infancy stages, with quite a lot of time before it 
reaches full operational capability. Is that correct, Admiral?
    Admiral Gilday. Ma'am, I do not mean to be evasive. I just 
really need to dig into that report more deeply and get briefed 
on it. I am committed to come back here with a thorough answer 
to your questions.
    Senator Warren. All right, and one of the questions I am 
going to ask you about is whether or not the money dedicated to 
the HED system is going to the PDSS system, or if it is 
something else here.
    You know, I am glad that the Navy is prioritizing research 
and development on fuel-efficient ship engines, and that it 
thinks that there are even better technologies that can 
outperform the HED. But I am really concerned that abandoning a 
good system now in favor of a better but not yet close to an 
operationally ready system is a good idea. It is critical that 
investments in improving fuel-efficient ship engines be made 
reliably and with transparency. You know, these technologies 
ensure that the Navy remains flexible and agile for the future 
and reduces its dependency on a potentially vulnerable fossil 
fuel supply chain, and that it builds public trust in how money 
is being spent.
    So I am going to look forward to hearing more from you on 
these questions. I really want to understand where the Navy is 
on this.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Warren. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. If Senator Scott 
is ready he could be recognized.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chair Reed.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    Senator Scott. I want to thank you for your service and 
what you do every day.
    I guess the first question is, do we all agree that we are 
facing increasing threats from our adversaries all across the 
world?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Harker. Yes, sir.
    Senator Scott. Do we have any feeling that Communist China 
is going to slow down in building up their military and doing 
everything they can to cause us problems in the Indo-Pacific?
    Admiral Gilday. No, sir. There is no indication they are 
slowing down.
    Senator Scott. Do you believe that as they build their 
economy they are going to continue to invest--Communist China 
will continue to invest more and more into their military?
    Admiral Gilday. I think that is one of the projected ways 
forward, sir, that their funding lines would continue to trend 
upward.
    Senator Scott. So if we believe all that, if you look at 
these budget numbers we are seeing, as Senator Sullivan has 
pointed out, and when you look at inflation, we are seeing less 
money invested in military. We are not even staying up with 
inflation. How does that make any sense? How can we believe 
that we can do our job if we are not even going to stay up with 
even inflation in defense?
    Admiral Gilday. I will just say that I am grateful for the 
top line that the Navy has, and I am committed to making every 
dollar count so that we are fielding the best force that we 
possibly can. So I think that that is my responsibility, is to 
take the top line that we have and to field the best force that 
we can, the most ready and the most capable and the most 
lethal. That is how I am proceeding with respect to how we are 
investing our money.
    Senator Scott. You are not defending whether it is the 
right number or not. You are just saying, ``I got stuck with 
this number and so I am going to--whatever I get stuck with, I 
will do my best.''
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, that is what I have to do. My way 
forward has to be budget informed, and I have a responsibility 
to make sure that the force that is out there today, that I am 
serving not only the Nation well but I am serving the sailors 
that are on those ships, that they have what they need to be a 
credible fighting force. I think we can do that.
    Senator Scott. So everything I read, Admiral, is that when 
the United States plays war game scenarios in the Indo-Pacific, 
especially over Taiwan, we lose. Is that the war games you have 
played, or do you have a different view that what we----
    Admiral Gilday. No. Sir, I have a different view. It 
depends on the game. It depends on the approach. Those war 
games, even the ones where we get beat, we learn a whole lot in 
terms of honing our skills, our concepts, and giving a better 
understanding of what we need to win, with respect to kit.
    Senator Scott. Do you believe that we have the Navy that is 
going to deter Communist China from invading Taiwan today?
    Admiral Gilday. I do. I do not think we are doing it alone. 
I think we are doing it with allies and partners. But I think 
we have a credible force forward right now.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. General Berger, can you give us a 
little bit more information on your re-envisioning of the 
Marine Corps and what you are doing and how that is going to 
help us deal with Communist China?
    General Berger. Sir, the Marine Corps, for the past 20 
years, largely has been in the Middle East, doing what the 
Nation needed it to do, but going forward it needs to do 
something different. To deter the PRC [People's Republic of 
China], the PLAN [People's Liberation Army Navy], and to be 
ready to respond to any crisis, we have to go back to our naval 
roots. We have to become expeditionary once again. We have to 
fit into a Joint Force, as CNO answered to your first question, 
as a Joint Force that can work with our partners and allies, to 
first prevent a crisis, but if there is one, be ready to 
respond quickly.
    Senator Scott. Do you believe today that your understanding 
of--if you were involved in trying to deter or defend Taiwan, I 
mean, defend, could you do it?
    Admiral Gilday. That is a simple question to ask. As you 
pointed out, sir, it is a very complicated one to answer, 
because on different classification levels and different 
scenarios the outcome is different.
    Senator Scott. What do you personally believe? Do you 
believe that we can defend Taiwan today?
    Admiral Gilday. I believe we need a margin of error so that 
it is not even close.
    Senator Scott. Do you think that we have it?
    Admiral Gilday. It depends. Conventionally, deterrence is 
partly in the mind of the adversary. Do they believe we have 
the capabilities and believe we have the will to use it? I can 
answer the first one, not the second one.
    Senator Scott. Do you think having a defense budget that 
does not stay up with inflation that it gives them the belief 
that we are committed?
    Admiral Gilday. I think, back to the pacing part of a 
pacing threat, there is a degree of strategic and operational 
risk that we need to understand. The budget is part of that.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, each of you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Senator Peters, 
please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
each of our witnesses for your service to our country.
    Admiral, my question for you is, I would like to return to 
the GAO report that Senator Tillis addressed earlier, and 
specifically its finding on fatigue. Shifting away from optimal 
manning process to better account for ship workload will 
certainly help in the long run, but my question for you, sir, 
is what are you doing now to combat fatigue in the fleet?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, making great gains to make sure that 
everybody on ships gets 7, 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep a 
night. That is a challenge. We have been learning a lot. We 
have medical experts who are helping us design a program. We 
are assessing that program. We just came out with a revised 
instruction based on our assessment a few months ago. We 
continue to learn, but I am confident they are on the right 
track and we are committed to this, sir, again, tied to those 
collisions in 2017.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Admiral.
    General Berger, the Marine Corps just awarded a contract 
for the Organic Precision Fires-Mounted system. This type of 
investment in loitering munitions will certainly be a key to 
ensure that the Marine Corps is properly equipped for those 
fights in the future.
    My question for you is, could you discuss how the fiscal 
year 2022 budget actually reflects these modernization 
priorities in unmanned system?
    General Berger. Both in the air and on the surface, as you 
highlight, we will triple the number of unmanned aerial 
systems, aerial squadrons that we have, and they will be a mix 
of those that collect, those that are lethal, those that 
provide logistics, those that fuse information and move 
information.
    On the surface, to an earlier discussion, the Joint Light 
Tactical Vehicle, for example, we are using it in a 
configuration now with the Naval Strike Missile, where it is a 
combination of manned and unmanned teaming, some vehicles 
crewed, some uncrewed. That allows the tactical commander to 
spread his forces out and pose the adversary a threat from 
multiple vectors, which is what we need to be able to do.
    Senator Peters. Right. General Berger, again, in April, the 
Marine Corps Gazette, there was a story talking about the 
Second Marine Information Group, and the commander offered 
several recommendations for operating in the information 
environment, focusing entirely on both individual and unit 
mindsets. This certainly makes me wonder about the intangible 
components of Force Design 2030. So could you talk to the 
Committee a little bit about what you believe every marine 
should know about information and how to operationalize it, as 
well as what every commander should know?
    General Berger. My assumption is that you are going to want 
your Marine Corps and your Navy far forward. That is the best 
chance you have to deter. That is the best chance you have to 
respond to a crisis. If you are far forward, then you are 
closest to the adversary, and what information goes back and 
forth, what messages you are sending, what you are collecting 
and moving within your force matters.
    I think the Joint Force Commander, the combatant commander 
that the CNO talked about earlier, is going to rely very 
heavily on the Marine Corps and the Navy forward to paint a 
picture of what is in front of them and to move that 
information, and to call out an adversary's actions to make it 
public.
    Every marine then who is forward has to understand that as 
lethal as we are, and we are very lethal, the information part 
of that is extraordinarily important. We have to understand 
that, that every individual becomes a cog in a bigger system of 
what do they see in us, what do we see in them, how are we 
trying to defeat their reconnaissance of us. What do they 
understand about us?
    So it is higher level of understanding for marines and 
sailors, I think, forward, that has not been necessary in the 
past, but will be critical moving forward.
    Senator Peters. Right. Thank you, General. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you very much. Thank you for your 
service.
    Admiral, I want to revisit your statement that numbers 
matter. China's navy is bigger, not only bigger but 
geographically concentrated. Almost all PLA [People's 
Liberation Army] Navy ships are in the South China Sea. Do you 
believe the United States maintains naval superiority within 
1,000 miles of China?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, right now we do. If we needed to 
respond, we could, and we could respond with overwhelming 
force, and then surge additional forces forward.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. General Berger, Iwo Jima, Midway, 
Pearl Harbor--a fight in the Pacific falls on the Navy and the 
Marine Corps. If we have conflict with China, our Nation will 
look to you. But if this budget passes, the Marine Corps in 
strength of fiscal year 2022 down by 2,700. You have worn the 
cloth of this Nation for 40 years, and I know have the courage 
to answer this question like a marine. Is it responsible to 
shrink the Marine Corps as the Nation pivots into the Indo-
Pacific?
    General Berger. When you say, just to clarify, sir, 
``shrink the Marine Corps,'' are you talking about end 
strength, just to make sure, the structure of the Marine Corps?
    Senator Tuberville. Yes.
    General Berger. I would trade size for quality if we have 
to. I think all the service chiefs would like to never cut 
their end strength, given an unrestricted, unlimited set of 
resources. But that is not the world that we live in. So we 
will reduce the end strength. We have reduced the end strength 
in order to fund our own modernization for the future.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. You know, our military is 
built on, obviously, recruitment, because we are a volunteer 
military. I just do not want us to get into this extremism in 
which we know we have problems in a lot of different areas. You 
know, being a football coach for years I brought people in, and 
they went my way or they went the other way, because you have 
got to build a team.
    But, you see things like, Admiral, in your department I 
saw, on social media, we had a Pride flag on your social media 
on an aircraft carrier. I have no problem with that because, I 
had young men that were gay that played football for me. I 
mean, you know, you take everybody, and this takes everybody in 
the military. But we cannot separate. We cannot separate. To me 
it is the bigger cause that all these young men and women fight 
for our military. It is not individual sport. It is not golf. 
It is football. I mean, we have got to build a team.
    I have asked this same thing of Secretary Austin and the 
others. We just need a commitment from everybody to kind of 
calm down on all this so we can build a military that believes 
in one thing--our country--and we believe in it together. If we 
keep dividing our country we are going to continue to have 
problems, and I think it is something we just need to all be 
real careful of in the future. Because we have got the greatest 
country on the face of this earth, and we do not want to 
destroy it by individualizing and making individual sports out 
of everything we do, especially the military--especially the 
military.
    So I just needed to make that statement. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator 
Duckworth is recognized via Webex.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and as someone 
who has served 23 years in our military I can tell you it is 
one team, one fight, regardless of who is in the aircraft with 
you. I would tell you that when I was bleeding to death in my 
helicopter I did not ask what somebody's background was. I only 
cared that they had an American flag on their shoulder and were 
there to rescue me. So our military truly is united, and that 
oath of office is what unites all of us.
    Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for being here and thank 
you for your service to our Nation. I am very courage to see 
the development of unmanned naval platforms such as the MQ-25 
aerial refueler, which will provide essential logistics support 
to our maritime forces. The MQ-25 conducted the first-ever 
aerial refueling between a manned aircraft and an unmanned 
tanker on June 4, from MidAmerica Airport in my home state of 
Illinois. It will be the world's first operational carrier-
based, unmanned aircraft providing aerial refueling and ISR 
[Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance] capabilities 
for carrier strike groups. MQ-25 integration will extend the 
range of our aircraft carriers and lay the foundation for all 
future carrier-based unmanned systems.
    Admiral Gilday, could you speak to the impact unmanned 
programs such as the MQ-25 have on our ability to provide 
essential logistics in contested environments and the 
importance of continued investments in unmanned systems for the 
Navy's future force design. In particular, how do you plan to 
employ this capability to support our operational plans in the 
Indo-Pacific region, where the tyranny of distance is something 
we have already discussed? Thank you.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am. Thanks for the question. I 
think that the impact of the MQ-25 and our experiences that we 
have seen out at sea, and again, with the aerial refueling that 
you mentioned 2 weeks ago, I think the effects are profound, 
for not only the Navy but our military. It will change the 
dynamic of the carrier air wing. You mentioned increased ISR 
capability, increased range, increased lethality.
    I also think it is going to change the way that we employ 
the air wing, where you will have manned and unmanned operating 
together. The MQ-25 is our first look at how we are going to do 
that going into the 2030s. That particular platform we have a 
high degree of confidence in right now, and that is only 
growing day by day as we operate it.
    So as we move forward, ma'am, what we are learning from the 
MQ-25, we are not only applying that to other aerial vehicles 
but we are also applying it to the work that we are doing in 
unmanned surface platforms and unmanned undersea platforms as 
well.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Admiral. I was pleased that 
you released the Department of the Navy's Unmanned Campaign 
Framework, which outlines a holistic approach to developing and 
deploying unmanned systems and ensuring that individual 
technologies can operate within a broader architecture of 
networked warfighting systems. I believe unmanned systems will 
play a key role in future distributed marine operations, 
littoral operations in a contested environment and 
expeditionary advanced-based operations.
    However, these platforms will not provide maximum 
capability for our forces if they are not fully integrated with 
other important systems, and I am so glad to hear, in your 
earlier answer, that you are integrating these systems in.
    I do understand that you need to develop a manned/unmanned 
teaming solution in order to effectively employ the MQ-25 in 
some situations. Can you please just walk me through your plans 
for this solution and what resources you might need to develop 
this enabler, so we can get the most use out of an important 
capability like the MQ-25?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am. So first of all, on a campaign 
plan I would also like to mention that the Commandant, General 
Berger, also signed that framework with me, so the Marine Corps 
and the Navy are working, because we have to, hand in hand as 
we proceed forward with unmanned.
    So conceptually, ma'am, what we believed for some period of 
time is that this would be a phased approach with respect to 
unmanned, where, for a certain period of time, there needs to 
be a man in the loop. So eventually we will have artificial 
intelligence technology, machine learning that allows us to 
continue to increase the amount of autonomy that we employ with 
these vessels. But I think that we have to be smart about this 
and understand that this is going to be a phased approach. But 
there is still a lot of power there, even in a phased approach, 
in a responsible way to keep a man in the loop as we leverage 
the unmanned and uncrewed vessels.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I would like to chat a little 
bit about the Indo-Pacific region. You know, I think we are 
clear that our alliances and partnerships provide the United 
States with a clear asymmetrical advantage against potential 
adversaries. I know I am out of time. General Berger, I would 
like to submit a question for the record to ask you really how 
would the Marine Corps balance the need to invest in 
modernization with resourcing critical readiness and mil-to-mil 
initiatives with our partners and allies, particularly in the 
Indo-Pacific region. I am talking specifically about building 
trust and interoperability by actually have a presence in the 
Indo-Pacific on the ground, in the region, to basically, bottom 
line, enhance relationships and increase deterrence and open 
doors, finding new friends, maybe not necessarily allies but 
people who are just happy to have us there to enforce the rule 
of law and international norms and behaviors. So I will submit 
that for the record, and I hope that you will send me an 
answer. Thank you, General Berger.
    I am over time, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth. Senator 
Blackburn, please.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Gilday, 
I want to come to you, if I may. Naval Support Activity Mid-
South in Millington there in Tennessee, and, of course, we have 
some of the best personnel there for Navy Recruiting Command 
and Navy Personnel Command, and we are just so honored to have 
them there and appreciative of the work that they do.
    I want to talk with you a little bit about the newly 
transformed model of recruiting, which you have really pushed 
back and away from the legacy model, and where you had one 
recruiter for every job. I like what you are doing with the 
1,000 talent acquisition stations supported by 64 Talent 
Acquisition and Onboard Centers, and 26 Navy talent acquisition 
teams. I understand that this is fully operational now, in 
2021, when your start date and your target date had been 2023.
    So it is wonderful to see transformative change being 
implemented and ahead of schedule, and the men and women that 
have worked on that really deserve a lot of talent. So talk a 
little bit about how this transformational model with basically 
the three-person team, with the recruiter or the scout, the 
assessor, and the onboarder, how that is working and how you 
have implemented that.
    Admiral Gilday. Ma'am, thanks for recognizing our teammates 
out at Millington. Really a terrific group of innovators out 
there.
    I would say two things up front that allow us to take a 
look at how we reimagine recruiting. One was the pandemic. We 
were challenged with respect to face-to-face contact, and so we 
began to rely on the digital that much more. We already had an 
idea of how we were going to do this in terms of, as you 
described, transforming the organization. Based on funding from 
Congress, we were able to accelerate that by 3 years. We could 
not have done that without the help of this Committee and 
others. That is, I think, a real model for when Congress 
believes that we are on the right track here and they allow us 
to fund it, that we can make fundamental changes.
    Under this new system, we have recruited 54,000 new sailors 
into the Navy. We have met and exceeded our goals, even during 
the pandemic. So it is relying on small teams that work 
together very closely and also are leveraging social media and 
the digital, as well as teams that compete out there where the 
potential recruitable population hangs out, which is on the 
gaming sites.
    Senator Blackburn. All right. I want you to drill down a 
little bit on two things. Number one is how this is helping you 
get the skilled talent you need for 21st century warfare, and 
second, how you have used bots and data to help target and to 
be effective.
    Admiral Gilday. So the data has allowed us to understand 
where the recruitable population resides, not physically but 
virtually, in cyberspace. When you think about the gaming 
community, which is pretty big--I have sons that are in 
college, and it is millions of young people that play these 
games online. We have created Navy teams that are out there 
playing and can answer people's questions when they have one.
    We found, in particular, with respect to those that are 
interested in the cyber field of study that I have to rely less 
on them being a college graduate than the fact that they are a 
good gamer or a good hacker, and just are interested in how 
they can apply their skills in a place like the Navy, where 
they can do some pretty exciting things, if they have the right 
authorities to do so, and that is classified, but that gets 
into a higher classification.
    But we have been able to attract, as you mentioned, ma'am, 
some really sophisticated and dedicated patriots into the Navy.
    Senator Blackburn. I would assume utilizing that type, 
artificial intelligence, you will be able to apply that to 
things such as promotion boards, to eliminate bias and to----
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am. That is good goal. I would just 
say that I think it will take us some time to get there before 
machines can make those kinds of, in some cases, subjective 
judgment calls, whether it is on the battlefield or whether it 
in a promotion board. But I certainly think that is in our 
future, and that is the path that we are on.
    Senator Blackburn. I appreciate that, and I commend you and 
the team at Millington for the way forward on this.
    General Berger, I am going to submit questions for you 
dealing with China. Secretary Harker, I also have some 
questions pertaining to China, and I will submit those for the 
record.
    Mr. Chairman, thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blackburn. Senator Rosen, 
please.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed and Ranking Member 
Inhofe, for holding this hearing, and thank you so much for 
your service and for being here today.
    Of course, in Nevada we have our wonderful Fallon Naval Air 
Station, and we are proud to host it. It is home to Top Gun, 
our Nation's premier carrier air wing. It is home to the Navy 
SEAL Training Center.
    So last year the Navy requested an expansion of over 
600,000 acres of Federal land and over 65,000 acres of non-
Federal land, which would expand Fallon Training Complex to 
about 900,000 acres. Federal land managers currently allow 
access to the public for much of the proposed expansion area 
for grazing, for hunting, for mineral exploration, and 
geothermal development, and the Navy's proposal would curtail 
many of these activities, in addition to restricting Tribal 
access to some of their most important cultural sites.
    The fiscal year 2021 NDAA included a provision that Senator 
Cortez Masto and I offered that mandates the creation of an 
Intergovernmental Executive Committee, or IEC, to allow local, 
state, and Tribal governments a public forum to collaborate 
with the Navy to provide advice and exchange information. In 
doing so, we hope we can support the Navy's modernization 
requirements and keep up with all, of course, our current 
emerging threats, technologies, while maintaining Nevada's 
natural resources and cultural resources.
    But the Navy sent over a legislative proposal to this 
Committee almost identical to last year, unfortunately, and it 
did not incorporate any of the suggested changes or feedback 
from our local stakeholders. So, Admiral, I am really pleased 
that you did your IEC right away, but why hasn't the Navy's 
proposal been modified to incorporate some of these?
    Admiral Gilday. Ma'am, I think for the very reasons that 
you mentioned with respect to there are a number of 
stakeholders involved here. As you know, we have had over 300 
engagements with the Native American Tribes to try and work 
through some of those difficulties. There are other 
difficulties that may or may not coincide with the Tribes that 
involve the county. There is also the state. There is also the 
Department of the Interior.
    So the IEC, we have had two meetings so far. The Walker 
Paiute Tribe is a vice chair, as well as the County Commission 
is also the vice chair. I think the way forward here that I am 
optimistic about is we are now getting all the stakeholders in 
the same room together, so that we can work through all of 
these issues in a way that allows us, we hope, in the end, to 
modernize the range. We have not done so since the mid 1980s. 
We are two generations behind with respect to aircraft. We are 
facing a problem now where if we do not modernize this range, 
the first time F-35's will be able to employ their full 
capability will be in combat.
    We are building wind farms off the California coast that, 
again, cut into our training range. We are running out of space 
to train, but we are using, you know, for some years now, 
precision weapons, GPS-guided weapons, with longer ranges, with 
sophisticated aircraft, and we cannot train our pilots and our 
air crews to their full capability.
    So I, again, am very enthused, ma'am, by the IEC. A meeting 
here next Monday, is the next one, tracking it very closely, 
and, of course, I very much appreciate your support as we work 
through this.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you. I look forward to working 
on that with you and all the allies and partners. I want to 
just quickly talk about the Fallon's B-19 range, because in 
1959 the Navy did drop live, inert ordnance right outside of 
there, speaking of the Walker River Paiute Tribe, and that is 
nearly 6,000 of their acres where you dropped this ordnance, 
and so it contaminated all of that.
    Will you commit to working with me and the Nevada 
delegation on ensuring that the Tribe is very fairly 
compensated for this contamination?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, ma'am. You have my commitment.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I will submit this for the 
record, but Senator Blackburn and I, she talked about the 
skilled workforce. We actually have a bill called the Cyber 
Security Reserve Act, to establish a civilian cyber reserve 
corps, modeled after a recommendation from the National 
Commission on Military, National, and Public Service report, 
that will help in surge capacity and training, giving people 
onramps to serve their government, like the other Reserve corps 
do, and I look forward to talking with you about that in 
another time. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator Kelly, 
please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Mr. 
Secretary, Admiral, General, thank you for joining us this 
morning.
    This past weekend I visited the U.S. Merchant Marine 
Academy, a school that gave me the foundation to succeed in the 
Navy and then later at NASA [National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration] as an astronaut. While the Merchant Marine is 
overseen by other committees, I want to acknowledge the 
important contribution it makes to our total sealift 
capability. This is critical, and in order to sustain our 
forces we need to ensure robust and reliable sealift capacity. 
Competition with China is increasing, and projecting power to 
the Western Pacific (WESTPAC) places a demand on our sealift 
capability that simply was not a factor in the Middle East.
    Our witnesses mentioned earlier, and all of you indicated 
in written testimony for this hearing, your concern about 
threats to our supply chains and global sustainment networks. 
General Berger, can you expand on any concerns you may have 
about our sealift capability today and what more does the U.S. 
need to do to ensure that we have a ready force of sufficient 
capability?
    General Berger. Like a lot of other people wearing a 
uniform, the first time I got familiar with sealift capability 
was 1991 in Saudi Arabia. Sailed them into Al Jubail port, 
offloaded ships for probably 2, 2 1/2 weeks. That is where we 
got our equipment from, and we flew from Contiguous United 
States (CONUS) and linked up with our equipment there. That was 
my first exposure to sealift. But that was assured. Sailing 
those ships in and out of there, they were protected, they were 
secured. Nobody was threatening those lines at all.
    A very different picture, as you point out, from the Indo-
Pacific, where the Chinese Navy is stretching out, it is 
gaining a marine and a naval force projection capability that 
they have not had. They want to control the same straits that 
we need to keep open. Sealift now becomes a major concern. In 
other words, a handful of large ships with a lot of gear on 
them now becomes vulnerable. We need to disperse that.
    So I think military sealift, going forward, is not the same 
variant as 1991, where there are three or four ships, or five 
in a squadron, and they are loaded to the gills with equipment, 
and you can sail into a secure port and offload it on your 
timeline. That is not going to be the case.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you. Admiral or Secretary 
Harker, any additional comments on our sealift capability?
    Mr. Harker. We definitely need to recapitalize our sealift 
capability. We are working to do so, and it is something that 
we believe strongly in investing in new ships, because that 
gives us the biggest bang for our buck.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. If I could just mention 
something, or expound on something that General Berger 
mentioned. I think that as the Department looks at this new 
Joint Warfighting Concept and as we think about how we are 
going to fight differently in the future, I think this is 
exactly what the Commandant was getting to with respect to one 
area would be sealift, in terms of the capacity that we need, 
based on the way we are going to fight.
    What the Navy is doing right now, we know that we are 
behind on recapitalizing sealift, but Congress has given us 
authorities to buy used sealift. So we have done the market 
analysis and we are currently purchasing five additional ships, 
nine total, about a tenth of the cost to build a new ship. So 
we do some minor modifications in a U.S. shipyard that gives us 
a Roll On/Roll Off (RO/RO) capability as an example.
    Secondly, what we are doing in this budget, particularly, 
we have got 16 additional life-extension plans for existing 
sealift. We are not satisfied with where we are right now, sir, 
but I think we are headed in the right direction with regard to 
recapitalization and repair.
    Senator Kelly. As you get those new ships, do you feel like 
you can find the officers and crew to man them?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. One of the national treasures we 
have is our Merchant Marine force, and they have been great.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you, and I am willing to work 
with you going forward on any further ideas on how we 
strengthen that capability. It is critical to maintain these 
supply lines. General, as you pointed out, it is much different 
than what we dealt with in 1991, in the first Gulf War.
    Thank you, and Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Mr. Secretary, Admiral, General, thank you for your 
testimony today and thank you for your service to the Nation 
over many years, and please relay our thanks to the men and 
women of the Navy and Marine Corps and their families.
    With that I will adjourn the hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 11:56 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                  shipbuilding defense industrial base
    1. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Harker, what policy initiatives or 
funding investments are being implemented within the shipbuilding 
defense industry to help stabilize the future of the industrial base 
and to counter increased costs and other risks due to defense industry 
gaps?
    Secretary Harker. In an effort to create, maintain, protect and 
restore the defense industrial base, the Navy is focused on investments 
and efforts that safeguard, synchronize, and expand domestic 
shipbuilding and ship sustainment supply chains. The shipbuilding 
supply base faces an unprecedented set of challenges: resiliency 
throughout a global pandemic; the decline of critical markets and 
suppliers; aggressive industrial postures of peer and near-peer 
competitor nations; and the loss of vital skills in the domestic 
workforce. The overlap of external, macro-level pressures, and the net 
effect of these factors, create the need and urgency to leverage 
policy, authorities, and investments in the interest of national 
defense.
    Congressionally added supplier development funding, Defense 
Production Act projects, and CARES Act investments have been critical 
levers and authorities to expand product lines and capacity to de-risk 
single sources in vulnerable and volatile shipbuilding market spaces. 
Beginning in fiscal year 2011, these funding streams have injected 
hundreds of millions of dollars into strategic supplier efforts to: (1) 
maximize productive capacity of single/sole sources, and (2) develop 
additional sources of supply to mitigate risk to the Navy enterprise. 
Separately, over the last 18 months and throughout the pandemic, CARES 
Act investments were targeted towards two focus areas: (1) ensuring the 
continued viability of key, cross-platform vendors with the greatest 
impact to the greatest number of Navy programs, and (2) sustaining 
critical capability and capacity (both at the shipbuilder and heavy 
machining and fabrication levels) to support the 30-Year Shipbuilding 
Plan and Future Naval Force Structure goals.
    In addition to infrastructure improvements, the Navy is focused on 
building resilient, sustainable workforce pipelines that match the 
investments being made into capability and capacity. In partnership 
with OUSD/Acquisition and Sustainment, Industrial Base Analysis and 
Sustainment office, there are several ongoing initiatives targeted at 
long-term stability and predictability between Navy demand signal and 
workforce/trades, particularly for critical skillsets in welding, 
pipefitting, and specialized machining.
    The Navy is taking a more forward-looking approach to maintenance 
and modernization to provide stability to the industrial base, 
including contracting strategies that align workload with industrial 
base capacity. The Navy has been grouping ship maintenance and 
modernization contracts to provide long-term predictability, 
incentivize industry growth, and facilitate learning.
    The Navy is also into its third year of the Shipyard Infrastructure 
Optimization Program (SIOP). Fully executed, SIOP will provide much 
needed recapitalization of CVN and SSN dry docks, new waterfront 
production facilities, improved facility layout, modernized machinery 
and support infrastructure that increase productivity and safety at the 
four public shipyards. These improvements will help ensure the 
efficient, timely and cost effective execution of scheduled maintenance 
availabilities.
                virginia-class submarine industrial base
    2. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Harker, your testimony asserted that 
the Virginia-class fast-attack submarines have parts that are failing 
much sooner than expected. How is the Navy proactively identifying the 
quantity of ``life-of-the-submarine'' parts that require replacement 
and developing a sourcing strategy for the industrial base to prepare 
for this new demand signal?
    Secretary Harker. The Virginia-class submarine is still 
comparatively a quite young class. The lead ship of the Virginia-class 
submarines is still in its second major maintenance availability. As 
the major availabilities have been completed some components identified 
to last the life of the ship based on engineering analysis and testing 
were subject to degradation modes (e.g. complex galvanic interactions) 
that had not been predicted. The information collected on actual 
material condition during major maintenance availabilities is being fed 
back to the material modeling process and commercial suppliers to 
improve the modeling/reliability and those lessons are being 
incorporated into the next block procurement. This enables us to move 
from reactive to proactive replacement and improve material 
availability and sparing. Each availability provides an opportunity to 
refine, adjust and improve our ability to accurately forecast the 
required materials for maintenance availabilities.

    3. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Harker, what is being done to 
efficiently identify the source of this unexpected degradation to parts 
that are not lasting for the lifetime of the submarine as expected?
    Secretary Harker. The Navy is still learning about the long-term 
reliability Virginia-class components. In fact, USS Virginia (SSN 774) 
is just now completing its second major maintenance availability which 
allows for additional information on component reliability.
    Maintenance availabilities have identified that some components 
intended to last the life of the ship, based on engineering analysis 
and testing, were subject to degradation modes (e.g. complex galvanic 
interactions) that were not predicted. This was due to more severe 
temperature and moisture conditions than expected and operationally 
evolving environments which did not extend similarly from commercial 
applications for certain commercial off-the-shelf systems. The 
information collected on actual material condition during major 
maintenance availabilities is being incorporated into the material 
modeling process and provided to commercial suppliers to improve future 
reliability, and those lessons are being incorporated into the next 
block procurement and parts planning processes.

    4. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Harker, what impact will the 
manufacturing limitations to replace and stock these parts, have on 
upcoming Virginia-class maintenance schedules and the submarine fleet's 
ability to execute operations and respond to national tasking?
    Secretary Harker. [Deleted.]

    5. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Harker, what steps are being taken to 
make reliability improvements on the identified degraded parts for 
later blocks of the Virginia-class submarine?
    Secretary Harker. An organizational structure and team has been 
established to focus on in-service submarine reliability issues and 
solutions. The Navy's Reliability, Availability, Maintainability (RAM) 
-Integrated Product Team (IPT) is analyzing the reliability of over 70 
systems and individual parts using data-driven models and tools. The 
RAM IPT has investigated root causes and began implementing solutions 
such as; improved fleet training, more robust component designs, better 
troubleshooting procedures, maintenance plan improvements, and improved 
onboard component stocking and design. These improvements are planned 
to be incorporated into Columbia-class and future Virginia-class Block 
V/VI contracts. Additionally, the Navy's Reliability Control Board 
facilitates prioritization of reliability issues based upon feedback 
from the Fleet. The RAM IPT and RCB initiatives have resulted in 
redesigns to improve reliability with solutions already fielded in the 
fleet:
      Impressed Current Cathodic Protection Non-pressure Hull 
Penetrators--Installation process difficult/susceptible to damage. 
Redesigned to simplify installation/improved reliability.
      CO2 Scrubber Compressor--Reliability lower than predicted 
due to unexpected operating environment. Redesigned compressor to 
improve reliability.
      Turbine Generator Magnetic Bearing--Earlier than 
anticipated failures. Several redesigned components to mitigate root 
cause of bearing failure.
      Vertical Launch System Outboard Cables--Early failures 
observed on Block I/II. Cable connector redesigned to address observed 
failure modes.
      Capstan Outboard Cables--Corroded connectors resulted in 
failures earlier than expected. Redesigned cable and minimized 
connectors to improve reliability.
      Outboard Cable Failures--Cables and connectors failed due 
to corrosion. Redesigned connectors to include coatings resulting in 
better reliability and resistance to flooding.
         small business and innovation research program (sbir)
    6. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Harker, the SBIR program is a 
competitive acquisition process that provides the Department with vast 
authority to transition innovative technologies. Can you share how the 
Department of the Navy is using the SBIR program to advance 
modernization priorities across all warfare domains?
    Secretary Harker. The Department of the Navy (DON) recognizes the 
cutting edge work that is conducted by our small business partners and 
continues to view small businesses as vital to meeting the needs of 
Sailors and Marines, both today and in the future. Modernization is a 
long-standing priority of the DON Small Business Innovation Research 
(SBIR)/Small Business Technology Transfer (STTR) programs. Advancing 
modernization priorities through these programs starts with a topic 
that represents the needs of the Fleet and Force, for which innovative 
solutions are sought from domestic start-ups and small businesses. The 
DON SBIR/STTR topic development process ensures alignment of all topics 
with the National Defense Strategy (NDS), including modernization 
priorities, and captures input from seven DON Systems Commands 
representing needs across all warfare domains.
    Since fiscal year 2020 the DON SBIR/STTR programs have tracked 
modernization as a category entitled ``Modernize Key Capabilities'' to 
identify NDS alignment. Currently, 134 topics are categorized as 
modernization priorities (40 percent of all topics since fiscal year 
2020), from which the Program has awarded 406 Phase I contracts valued 
at over $60 million to small businesses to prove the feasibility of 
their innovative modernization solutions. To date, 52 of these Phase I 
awardees successfully have competed for and received Phase II contract 
awards to continue the development and testing of prototype technology. 
The value of these Phase II contracts is $21 million and growing.
    Prior to fiscal year 2020, at least 78 topics had a direct impact 
on advancing modernization priorities, with the oldest topic dating 
back to fiscal year 2083. Collectively, these topics resulted in 182 
Phase I awards valued at $19 million and 101 Phase II awards valued at 
$117 million. At the completion of Phase II, DON Program Executive 
Offices, labs, and Warfare Centers used Phase III authority to 
successfully commercialize 16 of these projects to advance 
modernization priorities. Phase III non-SBIR/STTR funding for these 
projects exceeds $222 million.
    DON SBIR/STTR topic N05-149 is an example of how these programs 
have succeeded in advancing DON's modernization efforts. The objective 
of the topic was to use artificial intelligence (AI) to provide an 
operator with solutions to reduce manning. Specifically, the topic 
requested innovative solutions applicable to the evaluation of data 
sets used to process decision-making in the Ocean Battlespace 
Environment (e.g., littoral waters). This topic desired: exploration of 
using AI within the decision-making process; development of algorithms 
based on structural and human behavioral models, and heuristic 
inference rule sets, as well as numerical algorithms; evaluation of 
data sets used to process a decision; and incorporation of AI within 
the surface and subsurface tactical and operational decision process. 
Three small businesses received Phase I awards valued at a total of 
$299,000 and, at the end of Phase I, all three small businesses 
received Phase II awards valued at a total of $9.2 million. These same 
three small firms have received multiple Phase III contract awards 
totaling more than $49.2 million.
    The DON SBIR/STTR programs have five objectives to deliver 
capability to our acquisition programs and the Fleet and Force. These 
objectives are: (1) stimulate technological innovation; (2) meet 
federal research & development (R&D) needs; (3) foster and encourage 
participation in innovation and entrepreneurship by women and socially 
or economically disadvantaged persons; (4) increase private sector 
commercialization of innovations derived from federal R&D funding; (5) 
and foster technology transfer through cooperative R&D between small 
businesses and research institutions. The DON SBIR/STTR programs are 
critical to meeting these objectives and advancing modernization 
priorities across all warfare domains.
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie Hirono
                         shipyard modernization
    7. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, while I've 
been supportive of the Navy's Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Plan 
(SIOP), I'm concerned about the timeline, cost overruns, and the 
capability, even with these upgrades, of maintaining a future larger 
fleet. I'd like to get you both on the record that construction of the 
new drydock at Pearl Harbor will begin in fiscal year 2023.
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. The Navy has prioritized the 
construction requirement for Dry Dock 3 at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard 
and Intermediate Maintenance Facility (P-209). In support of a contract 
award, the Navy must complete environmental impact studies and planning 
and design efforts. Construction is planned to be completed to support 
the submarine class maintenance plan.

    8. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, I'm concerned that even after 
the upgrades to the four public shipyards, we're going to barely meet 
maintenance demands for the current fleet of 296 ships, let alone a 
future larger fleet of potentially 355 ships or more. How is the Navy 
planning to meet the demands of a larger fleet in the future?
    Admiral Gilday. The shipyard maintenance enterprise is transforming 
how the shipyards do business to create more production capacity and 
improve productivity to deliver submarines and aircraft carriers out of 
maintenance availabilities on-time. Naval Sustainment Systems--
Shipyards (NSS-SY) is an all-shipyards, all-hands effort that deploys 
industry and government best practices across the four public shipyards 
to eliminate variability, increase throughput and improve production 
efficiencies. NSS-SY seeks to identify methods for rapid development in 
these areas, test these methods and, if successful, share these methods 
across all four shipyards.
    NSS-SY is challenging Navy leadership at the highest levels to 
identify and collaborate on solutions to Navy-wide problems that have 
the greatest impacts on the shipyards. Naval Sea Systems Command 
(NAVSEA) created the NAVSEA Transformation Office (NTO), led by the 
Commander, NAVSEA, to oversee the NSS-SY effort using nine pillars for 
success--planning, engineering, material, waterfront operations, 
shipyard resourcing, shipyard infrastructure, inside shop, fleet 
operations, and information technology. Each pillar has a flag officer 
or SES leading the efforts. Pillar leads are focused on executing those 
changes that, ultimately, allow our mechanics at the waterfront and on 
the shop floor to do their job with maximum efficiency and minimal 
interruption..
    The Navy is also into its third year of the Shipyard Infrastructure 
Optimization Program (SIOP). Fully executed, SIOP will deliver required 
dry dock repairs and upgrades to support both current and future 
classes of ships, optimize workflow within the shipyards through 
significant changes to their physical layout, and recapitalize obsolete 
capital equipment with modern machines that will increase productivity 
and safety. The program is currently working a comprehensive plan on 
the feasibility and ability to accelerate SIOP implementation.
    Combined, SIOP and NSS-SY will fundamentally shift how the Navy 
plans and executes major submarine and aircraft carrier maintenance 
availabilities to dramatically improve their on-time delivery to the 
Fleet today and into the future.
            amphibious warship acquisition and availability
    9. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker, last year the Navy received 
Congressional authority to make a block buy of four amphibious ships 
that would save the taxpayers $750 million dollars, but this year's 
budget doesn't execute that authority. These ships provide a 
competitive advantage, particularly in the Pacific, and I am concerned 
about amphibious ship availability, especially given the loss to fire 
last summer of the USS Bonhomme Richard. Why is the Navy not taking 
advantage of the cost savings efforts Congress provided it in last 
year's National Defense Authorization Act?
    Secretary Harker. The Department of Defense supports smart 
acquisition strategies and is committed to achieving best value 
possible. Traditional amphibious ship requirements are undergoing 
analysis to ensure a balance between operational requirements and 
fiscal constraints. The Department is reviewing the plan for the 
procurement of LPDs and LHAs closely and will pursue a responsible plan 
for the timely procurement of these platforms.

    10. Senator Hirono. General Berger, how does the burning of the USS 
Bonhomme Richard and the decision to not execute the block buy impact 
the Marine Corps' ability to deter Chinese aggression in the Indo-
Pacific?
    General Berger. USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD 6) was decommissioned in 
April 2021, after 22 years of service, due to a fire which occurred on 
12 July 2020. The unplanned decommissioning of LHD 6 resulted in the 
loss of a Joint Strike Fighter capable Amphibious Assault Ship as the 
cornerstone of the Amphibious Ready Group/Marine Expeditionary Unit 
(ARG/MEU). The loss pressured other LHD/ LHA ships to meet Global Force 
Management deployments and affected maintenance and modernization 
schedules.
    Short-term impacts to ARG/MEU generation are mitigated by 
accelerating the USS Tripoli (LHA 7) Post Delivery Test and Trials 
period to prepare, and certify, the ship for deployment in fiscal year 
2022.
    Long-term impacts to the LHD/LHA inventory cannot be mitigated 
without future procurement of additional ships. LHA 9 is estimated to 
start construction in fiscal year 2023. When the Department is certain 
it will procure specific vessels on a particular timeframe, block-buy 
contracts can be a valuable tool to reduce costs and delivery delays 
and support the industrial base with a clear demand signal. However, 
the Department is still reviewing amphibious ship requirements, and 
committing to a block-buy is premature at this time until inventory 
objectives are established. The Marine Corps appreciates your support 
for these ships in future budget requests.

    11. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, has the 
investigation into the burning of the USS Bonhomme Richard completed 
and if so, what are the results?
    Secretary Harker. and Admiral Gilday. The investigation remains 
open. All substantive investigative activity is complete. The 
investigation is pending an Article 32 hearing. The convening authority 
is Commander 3rd Fleet.

    12. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, how does 
the Navy intend to replace the gap in amphibious ship availability that 
was created by the burning of the USS Bonhomme Richard?
    Secretary Harker. and Admiral Gilday. The decommissioning of USS 
Bonhomme Richard resulted in the loss of her fiscal year 2022 
deployment and fiscal year 2023 sustainment/surge availability period. 
Prior to the fire, the Navy was tasked to maintain the prescribed 
Amphibious Readiness Group Immediate Response Force as outlined by the 
Secretary of Defense (SecDef). To maintain that posture, the following 
actions have been taken:
      USS Tripoli (LHA 7) schedule was accelerated to take the 
place of USS Bonhomme Richard.
      USS Makin Island (LHD 8) schedule accelerated to mitigate 
the USS Tripoli schedule change, resulting in a de-scoped maintenance 
period to meet the new timeline.
      USS Essex (LHD 2) fiscal year 2021 deployment was delayed 
in order to better align with rotational requirements.
    The Navy's planned mitigations meet all requirements as outlined by 
the SecDef. Additionally, we continue to support the LHA program. In 
addition to USS Tripoli's delivery to the fleet in fiscal year 2020, 
USS Bougainville (LHA 8) is under construction and scheduled to deliver 
in fiscal year 2025.
           virginia-class attack submarine procurement issues
    13. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, the 
private shipyards are currently running 12-18 months behind delivery 
dates for the Block IV Virginia-class attack submarines. It appears 
this has led to increasing the cost estimates for Block IV boats yet to 
be delivered, cost and schedule increases for all of the future larger 
Block V boats, and potentially cost increases for the boats in the 
Columbia strategic missile program. What is wrong with the attack 
submarine production programs?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. Submarine industrial base 
performance remains challenged in achieving steady state delivery of 
two boats per year. Improving this performance is essential for 
Virginia-class (VCS) Block IV schedule recovery, VCS Block V 
foundational success, and concurrent Columbia-class construction. The 
Navy continues to closely monitor labor hours and schedule performance 
and is working to address the negative impact of COVID-19 on supply 
base performance, production schedules, and planned staffing growth.

    14. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, what are 
the private shipyards proposing to solve the problems?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. The Navy has completed a 
detailed assessment of the integrated VCS and Columbia-class schedules 
to ensure an achievable plan supporting Columbia as the #1 Navy 
acquisition priority. We are working with the private shipyards to make 
improvements in on-time and quality material delivery, and are taking 
steps to address production cadence and cost performance, such as 
shifting work between shipyards to better manage labor and footprint 
constraints, and increasing the quantity of strategically outsourced 
components and hours to the supplier base, allowing the shipbuilders to 
focus more on their core work. The Department is also updating and 
enhancing detailed VCS production schedules with an Enterprise 
perspective to ensure integration yard-wide with construction and 
maintenance activities, facility usage, and strategic outsourcing to 
avoid resource conflicts.

    15. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, what steps 
is the Navy planning to take to get the cost overruns and schedule 
delays back under control?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. The Navy has completed a 
detailed assessment of the integrated VCS and Columbia-class schedules 
and is working to ensure an achievable plan to deliver to a schedule 
and cadence of two VCS per year in accordance with Congressional 
authorizations and appropriations. By taking steps to improve the 
governance structure and align the Enterprise Business Strategy on key 
issues and assumptions, the Department will ensure that starting 
construction on the next VCS will not adversely impact Columbia. The 
Navy has implemented Construction Readiness Reviews , quarterly cost 
and schedule reviews, and monthly executive leadership reviews to 
ensure alignment between programs and quickly address challenges.
  issues with spare parts availability for the virginia-class attack 
                               submarine
    16. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, according to recent news 
reports, the Navy has swapped out over 1,600 parts among its Virginia-
class attack subs since 2013 to avoid maintenance bottlenecks as 
components that were supposed to last for decades wear out sooner than 
anticipated--adding extra workload to an already stressed system and 
additional risk that the parts could be damaged during the extra steps. 
I'm concerned the Navy is not investing enough in maintenance, supply 
chains, and shipyard infrastructure--what can you tell me about the 
efforts to mitigate the shortage in spare parts for the Virginia-class 
subs?
    Admiral Gilday. Beginning in 2017, to mitigate the shortage in 
spare parts for the Virginia-class, the Navy implemented a new process 
that leverages all adjacent business processes in order to produce a 
robust and highly credible material forecast for Virginia-class 
submarine depot level maintenance. The improved material analytics and 
forecasting will improve overall material requirements identification, 
ordering, and parts availability.
    Additionally, the Navy's various stakeholders including Naval Sea 
Systems Command (NAVSEA), Naval Supply Systems Command Weapons Systems 
Support (NAVSUP WSS), Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), In Service 
Engineering Agents (ISEAs), and Technical Authorities are working 
together through root cause analysis to identify potential short and 
long term issues and corrective actions for cannibalizations (swapping 
parts between hulls) to improve submarine fleet support and operational 
availability. One long term solution set is for cannibalizations to be 
included in the material forecasting process for submarine 
availabilities. Additionally, NAVSEA and stakeholders are submitting 
candidates for potential provisioning adjustments, based on the current 
demand and stakeholder determined essentiality/criticality of each 
item.

    17. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, has the Navy conducted a root 
cause analysis to determine why many of these components are wearing 
out sooner than anticipated?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes. As a result of the Navy's root cause analysis, 
an organizational structure and team has been put in place to focus on 
in-service submarine reliability issues and solutions. The Navy's 
Reliability, Availability, Maintainability (RAM) Integrated Product 
Team (IPT) is analyzing the reliability of over 70 systems and 
individual parts using data-driven models and tools. The RAM IPT has 
investigated root causes and identified solutions such as: improved 
fleet training, more robust component designs, better troubleshooting 
procedures, maintenance plan improvements, and improved onboard 
component stocking and design improvements, which are planned for 
incorporation into Columbia-class and the next block of Virginia-class 
submarines. Additionally, the Navy's Reliability Control Board 
facilitates prioritization of reliability issues based upon feedback 
from the Fleet.
         issues with submarine maintenance at private shipyards
    18. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, the Navy has turned to private 
shipyards in recent years to assist with ongoing maintenance delays for 
our attack submarines which are usually serviced at our four public 
shipyards. Can you give me a progress update on the expected completion 
of the maintenance availabilities for several of the Los Angeles-class 
boats currently at Newport News Shipbuilding (USS Helena, USS Columbus, 
and USS Boise)?
    Admiral Gilday. The following is the status of current private yard 
submarine maintenance schedules:
      USS Helena's (SSN 725) Dry-Docking Selected Restricted 
Availability is underway and projected to complete in October 2021 with 
a total duration of approximately 48 months.
      USS Columbus (SSN 762) is undergoing an Engineered 
Overhaul (EOH) and after rebaselining the availability we expect 
deliver in September 2021; which has exceed its previously planned 
duration of 60 months.
      USS Boise (SSN 764) began a ``smart start'' for its EOH 
in May 2020, ahead of its planned fiscal year 2022 official start. The 
availability duration and end date is subject to negotiation as part of 
the contract award.

    19. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, why is the maintenance backlog 
occurring at Newport News Shipbuilding?
    Admiral Gilday. Both nuclear-qualified private shipyards have 
experienced challenges in re-building their repair capabilities.
    HII-NNS is currently coming through its efforts to re-instate the 
requisite processes, policies, procedures, and skills required to 
properly execute complex submarines maintenance availabilities. 
Shortfalls in SUBSAFE maintenance processes, policies, procedures, and 
skills at HII-NNS contributed to the Helena and Columbus delays and 
have directly impacted all availabilities in planning and execution.

    20. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, what steps is the Navy taking 
to ensure in the future these delays at private shipyard submarine 
availabilities are eliminated?
    Admiral Gilday. Background: Between fiscal years 2015-2018, NAVSEA 
awarded four submarine maintenance availability contracts to the two 
nuclear qualified Private Shipyards, including one Interim Dry Docking 
(USS Montpelier (SSN 765)), one Docking Selected Restricted 
Availability (USS Helena (SSN 725)), and two Engineered Overhauls (USS 
Columbus (SSN 762) and USS Boise (SSN 764)). These contracts were 
structured primarily as Cost Plus Fixed Fee (CPFF) Level of Effort 
(LOE) with a Firm Fixed Price (FFP) contract line item number (CLIN) 
for execution services in support of the CPFF CLINs. The Navy based its 
use of FFP CLINs for execution services on the reasonable definite 
nature of the execution service requirements, under which the 
contracting officer could establish a fair and reasonable price at the 
outset. Issues arose during performance under this contract structure 
largely related to uncertainty as to the vessels' conditions at the 
time of contract award. This led to increased costs and duration, and 
revealed separate understandings of the FFP scope and its relation to 
the CPFF LOE scope. To better align the contracts to the Navy's 
schedule and quality objectives, the Navy and contractor agreed to 
restructure the FFP CLINs to CPFF LOE CLINs and link the contractor's 
fee/profit objectives to incentives that require engineering, material, 
and production value stream improvements and schedule adherence on the 
USS Helena and USS Columbus availabilities. To achieve these same 
objectives, the Navy and contractor agreed to utilize a Cost Plus 
Incentive Fee (CPIF) completion contract with incentives on USS Boise 
execution work.
    Way Ahead: The Navy is taking a new approach to submarine 
maintenance availability contracts based on lessons learned from recent 
submarine availabilities and incorporating best practices from the 
Aircraft Carrier Refueling Complex Overhauls (RCOHs) accomplished by 
the Private Shipyards, including the following.
      Eliminating FFP CLINs from submarine maintenance 
availability contracts;
      Splitting planning phase (CPFF LOE) from execution phase 
(CPIF Completion);
      Managing LOE tasking strictly with Technical 
Instructions;
      Awarding longer planning durations (20 months);
      Invoking proven Public Shipyard processes into Private 
Shipyard planning contracts to improve contractor performance (e.g. 
Resource Loaded Integrated Master Schedule, Task Group Instruction 
(TGI) development, Integrated Project Team Development (IPTD) 
curricula, and performance metrics)
      Invoking and incentivizing Cost Data Sheet (CDS) mutual 
agreement process to align contractor schedules and proposals with 
government/contractor mutually agreed to scope of work;
      Conducting planning product reviews by the Navy;
      Positioning retired Public Shipyard Subject Matter 
Experts on-site; and
      Instituting EVMS within the execution contract.
    The USS Hartford (SSN 768) EOH is the first availability to start 
on this new path. The Navy awarded the planning contract in August 
2020. The Navy will not realize the benefits of this new approach fully 
until the availabilities incorporating this new approach are completed.

    21. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, my understanding is Newport 
News Shipbuilding has told the Navy that attempting to prepare for or 
to be servicing three submarines at once is too many to handle at any 
given time. Is that accurate?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy, while unaware of any specific statements 
Newport News Shipbuilding may have made regarding their submarine fleet 
in-service repair capacity, agrees with that assessment.

    22. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, a March 2021 Congressional 
Budget Office Report stated required maintenance for submarines is 
projected to exceed the capacity of the Navy's shipyards in 25 of the 
next 30 years. Beyond the SIOP, which is focused on the Navy's public 
shipyards, what steps is the Navy taking to increase submarine repair 
capacity/efficiency at private shipyards?
    Admiral Gilday. Navy continues to help our private industry 
partners improve their processes, policies, procedures and skills for 
the on-going and upcoming availabilities--USS Helena (SSN 725) Docking 
Selected Restricted Availability, USS Columbus (SSN 762) Engineered 
Overhaul (EOH), USS Boise (SSN 764) EOH, and USS Hartford (SSN 768) 
EOH.
    In addition to placing submarine maintenance subject matter experts 
on site at both HII-NNS and GDEB, Navy has converted the Columbus EOH 
to a CPFF/LOE with special incentives, awarded the Hartford smart start 
contract, and continues to develop both the Boise and Hartford EOH CPIF 
contracts, both expected to be awarded in fiscal year 2022.
    These efforts align private industry and Navy's desired outcomes 
while incentivizing high quality and on time completion of our valuable 
Fleet assets.
            acquisition of light amphibious warships (laws)
    23. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, I know the 
Navy and Marine Corps are planning to procure approximately 30 vessels 
of a new class, the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW), to support 
Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations to deter Chinese aggression in 
the Indo-Pacific. What will be your acquisition strategy for acquiring 
the Light Amphibious Warship?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy has aggressively developed requirements 
and has an approved Acquisition Strategy / Acquisition Plan in support 
of a 2023 procurement and a 2026 delivery of the first Light Amphibious 
Warship (LAW). The LAW Acquisition Plan is to award two contracts, one 
for Concept Studies/ Preliminary Design (CS/PD) followed by a Detailed 
Design and Construction (DD&C) contract for the lead ship. The Navy 
awarded the CS/PD contract in June 2021. The DD&C contract will be a 
full and open competition with the Request for Proposal scheduled for 
release in 2nd quarter of fiscal year 2022 and an expected award in 
early fiscal year 2023. The first contract will include the lead ship 
with options for up to eight follow ships. The strategy procurement of 
the remaining ships of the class is still being evaluated by the Navy.
    General Berger. The Navy is conducting an Analysis of Alternatives 
and will commence with Concept Studies and Preliminary Design to 
evaluate a new medium intra-theater amphibious ship. Studies will 
primarily focus on commercial designs tailored for military application 
to enable maneuver and mobility for our integrated naval forces 
conducting Distributed Maritime Operations. The Department is driving 
towards a lead ship contract award in fiscal year 2023 that will 
support the Marine Corps' future Marine Littoral Regiments in the Indo-
Pacific region. The Light Amphibious Warship is complementary to 
traditional large amphibious ships; both types of ships are required to 
deliver Marine Corps forces to expeditionary locations.
    The current requirement, after a deliberate analysis process, is 35 
LAWs and would support three future Marine Littoral Regiments. Within 
the constraints of the current fiscal reality, we will work together 
with the Navy to prioritize the acquisition strategy to provide the 
Naval Expeditionary Force with the best value in platform capability 
and capacity.

    24. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, will you be 
following a methodical approach, paying adequate attention to good 
systems engineering principles to ensure the propulsion plant and 
electrical generators are reliable before construction to avoid some of 
the pitfalls of previous classes of ships like the LCS?
    Admiral Gilday. The LAW design will adhere to best practices and 
systems engineering principles and will follow all of the rigorous 
Naval Sea Systems Command Design Review processes. The vessel design, 
based on existing parent designs, will leverage mature commercial 
technologies with proven reliability. To validate equipment reliability 
prior to construction, the program plans to leverage efforts regarding 
propulsion plant and electrical generation system component reliability 
from other programs such as the Medium/Large Unmanned Surface Vessel 
(USV) programs. To that end, the Navy has already initiated a study to 
identify opportunities for LAW to exploit on-going efforts for a Land 
Base Test Site (LBTS) for the Medium/Large USV programs. Additionally, 
LAW system specifications will be written to drive the vessel design 
towards simple but effective systems that minimize required maintenance 
and are designed for ease of maintainability.
    General Berger. Yes, sound systems engineering principles and a 
methodical approach will be used for the acquisition of Light 
Amphibious Warships (LAWs). The Marine Corps works in concert with the 
Navy on amphibious ship requirements.
               budget request only includes one destroyer
    25. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, the 
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018 set as policy a 
355-ship Navy--right now, we have 296 ships. Looking at this year's 
budget, the Navy's topline only increased by 2 percent, with most of 
that going to the Marine Corps. Only 8 new ships are budgeted out of 
the 12 ships that were expected. Most impactful was one less destroyer 
than originally planned as part of a multi-year contract meant to save 
taxpayer money--in fact, by breaking the contract, we'll have to pay a 
$33 million dollar penalty. Given our strategic shift to the Pacific 
and the importance of the Navy in deterring the rising threat of China, 
how did the Department come to the decision to cut the second 
destroyer?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. Destroyers play an important 
role in the Navy's capability and capacity to deter China. As we 
developed the fiscal year 2022 budget, we had to balance our 
investments across readiness, capability, and capacity and it was a 
very difficult funding decision to not include the second destroyer in 
fiscal year 2022 due to affordability. Our goal remains to field the 
best, most capable, and most lethal fleet we can within the limits of 
available resources.

    26. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker, I am very disappointed that 
the Department has submitted a budget that would call for breaking the 
terms of the multiyear procurement of the Aegis destroyers. From your 
perspective, what kind of message does breaking multi-year contracts 
send to our industrial base and do you think actions like this 
incentivize Congress to provide the Department the authority to enter 
into multi-year contracts moving forward?
    Secretary Harker. The Navy has been using multi-year procurement 
(MYP) authority with the support of Congress to efficiently procure DDG 
51 destroyers in quantities that support stable production and a 
healthy industrial base. Over the course of the fiscal year 2018-2022 
MYP, the Navy will procure a total of 11 Flight III DDGs, more than the 
original ten ship procurement. The Navy continues to support the use of 
MYP contracts for procuring DDG 51 class ships.
                     sexual assault and harassment
    27. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, eliminating 
the scourge of sexual misconduct within the ranks is a top priority--
I've been a vocal supporter of removing the chain of command from the 
court-martial decision-making process in cases of sexual assault and 
sexual harassment because I think it will increase victim trust and 
remove perceived conflicts of interest. How do you view these 
proposals?
    Admiral Gilday. The Secretary of Defense directed the Department of 
Defense to work with Congress to amend the UCMJ to remove prosecution 
of sexual assaults, domestic violence, and related crimes from the 
chain of command and create dedicated offices within each military 
department to handle the prosecution of these special crimes. The Navy 
and the Marine Corps are fully committed to working towards the 
successful implementation of these efforts and the additional reforms 
from the Secretary's initiatives following the 90-day Independent 
Review Commission's recommendations on sexual assault and sexual 
harassment. As the Secretary has stated, creating enduring change will 
require a comprehensive approach across multiple lines of effort, and 
these changes must be well-designed for successful implementation. It 
is imperative that we have a military justice system that is effective, 
trustworthy and fair, and one that functions in an operational and 
forward deployed environment.
    General Berger. The Secretary of Defense directed the Department of 
Defense to work with Congress to amend the UCMJ to remove prosecution 
of sexual assaults, domestic violence, and related crimes from the 
chain of command and create dedicated offices within each military 
department to handle the prosecution of these special crimes. The Navy 
and the Marine Corps are fully committed to working towards the 
successful implementation of these efforts and the additional reforms 
from the Secretary's initiatives following the 90-day Independent 
Review Commission's recommendations on sexual assault and sexual 
harassment. As the Secretary has stated, creating enduring change will 
require a comprehensive approach across multiple lines of effort, and 
these changes must be well-designed for successful implementation. It 
is imperative that we have a military justice system that is effective, 
trustworthy and fair, and one that functions in an operational and 
forward deployed environment.

    28. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker, I was happy to see the 
Department of the Navy request more money in the President's Budget for 
sexual assault prevention this year--what steps is the Navy taking on 
the prevention front and how are you communicating to your sailors and 
marines on this important issue?
    Secretary Harker. The Department of the Navy (DON) is further 
growing our capacity to address prevention through the establishment of 
a dedicated prevention workforce and increasing civilian staff at the 
Headquarters level to improve oversight of the efforts of the Navy and 
Marine Corps.
    Integrated Prevention Specialists will lead and support strategic 
prevention efforts at both the Headquarters and Service levels, 
including embedded within deployed and afloat units. This workforce 
will address cross-cutting prevention and will enhance primary 
prevention strategy and capability across thefleet.
    The prevention workforce's role is reducing negative behaviors and 
supporting higher-risk populations through assessing for needed 
training enhancements, and promoting skill-building in healthy 
professional and personal relationships. Establishing a dedicated 
integrated prevention workforce was a key recommendation of the 
Independent Review Commission on Sexual Assault and Sexual Harassment 
in the Military, and the DON's efforts were already underway.
    The DON engages sailors and marines in prevention efforts through 
training and leadership development initiatives, and will work to 
incorporate prevention strategies, skill-building, and prevention 
throughout the military career cycle. In addition, the DON has 
developed and disseminated tools to command to increase leader 
ownership for recognizing and addressing emerging negative behaviors.
    For example, in April 2021 the DON launched The Watch List: Top 5 
Signals of Risk for Sexual Assault. This evidence-driven tool promotes 
unit-level engagement, increasing awareness of behaviors and attitudes 
that indicate when marines and sailors are at higher risk for sexual 
assault. This fall, we will roll out realistic training scenarios and 
resources to support first-line leaders and their teams in practicing 
how to best respond when faced with emerging negative behaviors.
                        diversity and inclusion
    29. Senator Hirono. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, I was 
happy to see the establishment of Task Force One Navy following the 
murder of George Floyd last year--in the military, it's especially 
important to enhance diversity and foster a culture of inclusion in the 
ranks. Following the results of Task Force One Navy, what steps is the 
Navy taking to bolster diversity within the senior ranks?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. The Department of the Navy 
(DON) is committed to attracting, recruiting, retaining, and developing 
a pipeline of diverse military talent. We continue to review and revise 
our policies to better support our workforce and advance our diversity 
initiatives.
    While the U.S. Navy is implementing the strategy to operationalize 
the Task Force One Navy (TF1N) final report recommendations, the DON 
has established a team, led by a Diversity, Equity and Inclusions 
(DE&I) Highly Qualified Expert, to build on the TF1N framework, and 
develop our strategic vision, Implementation Strategy, Governance and 
organizational structure for an enterprise DE&I program. The focus is 
to create an enduring and measurable program that champions signature 
leadership behaviors with linkage to culture and in alignment with OSD.
    The DON DE&I framework will leverage a number of indicators within 
our talent management systems to establish demographic trend analysis 
to more effectively address diversity issues throughout the entire 
human capital pipeline.
              gender integration at marine corps boot camp
    30. Senator Hirono. General Berger, the National Defense 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2020 required the Marine Corps to 
integrate boot camps on the East and West coast by 2025 and 2028, 
respectively--this is an important step in my opinion to ensure women 
are viewed equally from the outset in their Marine Corps careers. What 
can you tell me about the progress of this effort and specifically, 
whether the Marine Corps is integrating these units down to the platoon 
level?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is on track to meet the timelines 
associated with Fiscal Year 2020 National Defense Authorization Act 
(NDAA). The Marine Corps is using a proven model that adheres to 10 USC 
8431 and maximizes unit cohesion, accountability, equity, diversity, 
and sustainability for both the recruits and drill instructors.
    The service has a 5 year Integration Build Plan. In fiscal year 
2022, MCRD SD will execute three sequential iterations of integrated 
recruit training followed by 12 iterations in fiscal year 2023. By the 
end of fiscal year 2024, MCRD SD will achieve initial operational 
capable (IOC), defined as training companies manned, training 
approximately 50 percent of all female accessions, but will still 
require externally sourced experienced female DIs. By the end of fiscal 
year 2026, MCRD SD will achieve Fully Operational Capable, defined as 
self-sustaining and not requiring external experienced female DIs. MCRD 
Parris Island will achieve the NDAA 2020 requirements in fiscal year 
2024.
    The Marine Corps is integrating genders at the company level, 
however, it is not integrating genders within platoons and below. 
Mandating platoon-level gender integration at recruit training will be 
to the detriment of female Marines during the critical entry-level 
transformation process. In the career force, it will significantly 
reduce billet opportunities as compared to their male counterparts. A 
detailed explanation has previously been provided to Congress.
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Gary Peters
                               education
    31. Senator Peters. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, in 2019, 
Acting Secretary Modly began implementing parts of the Education for 
Seapower (E4S) initiative by breaking ground on the Naval Community 
College (USNCC) and hiring John Kroeger to serve as the Department's 
first Chief Learning Officer (CLO). USNCC has since begun its first 
pilot program and projects growth for fiscal year 2022--this is good 
news--but other aspects of E4S appear to have languished. The budget 
request notes that ``[a]s Naval Leadership seeks to address the balance 
between future force structure, current readiness requirements, and 
warfighter development, a reexamination of the Navy Education for 
Seapower strategy has been undertaken.'' Please detail this 
reexamination, to include its timeline and projected completion, as 
well as the process by which it is assessing E4S.
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. The Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of the Navy (Manpower and Reserve Affairs) (OASN (M&RA)) 
began a reexamination of the Department of the Navy (DON) Education for 
Seapower (E4S) Strategy 2020 in May 2021. The initial review indicated 
that we needed to update our education strategy to provide clear 
guidance for naval education. On June 30, 2021, OASN (M&RA) convened a 
working group of stakeholders from throughout the DON to review and 
provide recommendations to update the E4S Strategy. The working group 
is examining the overall strategy, including its education objectives, 
implementation plan, and clarity. The working group will provide ASN 
(M&RA) with a draft naval education strategy by October 2021.

    32. Senator Peters. Secretary Harker, the CLO position was created 
to lead and unify all Navy and Marine Corps formal education programs. 
Given that it has been vacant for a year, is its purpose no longer a 
priority for the Department?
    Secretary Harker. Education remains a priority for the Department. 
The Department of the Navy has made great progress in enhancing 
education opportunities and programs since the Education for Seapower 
initiative began in 2019. I assigned the responsibility for all naval 
education to the Assistant Secretary of the Navy (Manpower and Reserve 
Affairs) (ASN (M&RA)) in November 2020, which includes responsibilities 
previously delegated to the Chief Learning Officer. I work closely with 
ASN (M&RA) to continue the Department's efforts to improve and 
modernize Navy and Marine Corps education programs.

    33. Senator Peters. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, the 
Department's budget request decreases funding for tuition assistance, 
citing its ``reexamination of the Navy Education for Seapower 
strategy.'' Please expand on this rationale.
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. To improve Sailor and Marine 
education opportunities, the Navy is implementing a consistent 18 
credit hour limit per Sailor and Marine, per year, for the tuition 
assistance (TA) program beginning in fiscal year 2022, consistent with 
Department of Defense policy and guidance. TA usage and required 
funding continues to be monitored, as we implement this policy. 
Accordingly, the Services have specific eligibility criteria to manage 
available TA funds.
                           talent management
    34. Senator Peters. Admiral Gilday, in an article titled ``Use 
Sailors' Hidden Skills'' from the June 2021 issue of Proceedings, Petty 
Officer 1st Class Michael Amenti argues that the Navy can do better to 
leverage Sailors' skills and abilities unrelated to their ratings. Do 
you share this view, and if so, how are you setting the conditions for 
this approach in policy and in practice amongst commands?
    Admiral Gilday. Navy agrees with the author's assessment that we 
have ``the best sailors in the world, and its leaders should recognize 
and use every ounce of their potential.'' As alluded to by the author, 
since 2015, we have been on a journey to bring our talent management 
processes, policies, and programs into the 21st century by enabling 
better ``talent to task'' matching at scale, greater career 
flexibility, modernized and portable training delivery, and incentives 
(monetary and non-monetary), which keep pace with market forces.
    One of these initiatives is Ready Relevant Learning (RRL) which 
fundamentally changes the way our Sailors train, transforming 
industrial-era, conveyer-belt training into a modern, proactive system 
by providing Sailors with the right training, at the right time, to 
maximize their ability to operate across the spectrum of strategic 
competition and ultimately prevail in a high-end fight. Through a 
career-long learning continuum, RRL delivers training at the most 
appropriate time in a Sailor's career, while providing a detailed 
learning roadmap for every Navy career, covering technical, 
professional, and leadership training that is tightly linked to needs 
of the Fleet.
    Additionally, we are improving Fleet readiness and manning through 
better distribution of talent. We continue to expand our Talent 
Marketplace, creating a modern, flexible, and transparent assignment 
process that better balances a Sailor's assignment, location, talents, 
and advancement opportunities with Navy's mission and operational 
needs.
    Accordingly, MyNavy Assignment (MNA) has replaced the Career 
Management System-Interactive Detailing and delivers a modern interface 
and user-friendly experience for our Sailors with expanded visibility 
into jobs. This includes ready access to features such as Sailor 
Resume, Job Bookmarking, the Sailor Application Lifecycle Tracker, 
enhanced Projected Rotation Date modification request routing, and 
associated incentives for a particular job.
    Finally, in 2018, we introduced Advancement-to-Position (A2P) as a 
pilot program to incentivize service in priority or hard-to-fill 
billets across the Fleet by linking service in the position to 
advancement to the next paygrade. We permanently established the 
journeyman-level A2P (E-6 positions), which allows qualified E-5s to 
fill priority E-6 positions identified within MNA and receive a 
permanent advancement incentive.
    We understand that there is intense competition for talent in our 
country, and in light of rapidly evolving tactical and technical 
landscapes, we are modernizing and enhancing our entire talent 
management approach to increase Fleet readiness and lethality to win at 
long term strategic competition.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Tammy Duckworth
            building partnerships in the indo-pacific region
    35. Senator Duckworth. General Berger, our alliances and 
partnerships provide the United States with a clear asymmetric 
advantage against potential adversaries. However, we cannot build trust 
and interoperability with our maritime allies and partners from a 
distance. Nor can we contest malign activities without having a 
presence on the ground in the region. Bottom-line: enhancing 
relationships increases deterrence and opens doors to the access we 
need to compete in the region. But as we prioritize resources for 
modernization, we risk underinvesting in opportunities to build 
military to military relationships in the region.
    General Berger, how will the Marine Corps balance the need to 
invest in modernization with resourcing critical readiness and mil-to-
mil initiatives with our partners and allies, particularly in the Indo-
Pacific Region?
    General Berger. The Fiscal Year 2022 President's Budget continues 
to prioritize Force Design innovations as the way forward in 
modernizing and training the Marine Corps for the future fight while at 
the same time maintaining a high level of readiness as the Nation's 
crisis response force. A key component of our ability to persist and 
operate forward is maintaining close military to military relationships 
with our partners and allies--particularly in the Indo-Pacific region. 
In our PB22 submission we have balanced the requirements of readiness 
and mil to mil engagement with investments in the future.
    A critical element of this budgetary balancing continues to be the 
divestment of legacy capabilities that do not meet future requirements 
and reallocating resources into capabilities needed to build 
expeditionary naval power in support of the joint force. fiscal year 
2022 reform initiatives generated $1.4B from policy reforms, direct 
divestment, and business process/system improvements to reallocate into 
Force Design initiatives that modernize and increase the lethality of 
the Marine Corps, supporting readiness both now and in the future. 
Investments include long range precision fires, advanced command, 
control and sensing capabilities as well as unmanned systems.
    We have also ensured continued investment in our Fleet Marine 
Forces in the Indo-Pacific Region. This investment includes the 
development of permanent capabilities on Guam and continued presence in 
Australia, Korea and Japan. We continue to deepen relationships with 
the armed forces of the Philippines, France, Thailand, Singapore, 
Malaysia, Indonesia and New Zealand. Additionally, we are developing 
new opportunities with Vietnam. Indo-Pacific theater training exercises 
such as IRON FIST, VALIANT MARK, RIMPAC, KAMANDAG, SSANG YONG and 
TALISMAN SABRE continue our current efforts to strengthen our network 
of allies and partners. We have also successfully deployed a full 
squadron of F-35Bs aboard HMS Queen Elizabeth II on her maiden voyage 
to the Indo-Pacific theater, an important demonstration of power 
projection and interoperability with a key ally.
    A critical enabler to our forward presence, exercise participation, 
and partnership development is organic lift aboard amphibious shipping. 
This is a joint capability that enables Littoral Operations in a 
Contested Environment, Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO), 
and Distributed Maritime Operations (DMO). The EABO and DMO are keys to 
effective integrated deterrence and to creating a competitive advantage 
over our pacing threat.
    Our persistent forward presence in the Indo-Pacific region, along 
with Force Design modernization investment, increases interoperability 
and further builds partner capabilities.
    Together, these efforts are critical to maintaining our role as the 
Nation's naval expeditionary force-in-readiness and the leading edge of 
the joint force.
                       indo-pacific force posture
    36. Senator Duckworth. General Berger, what additional resources 
are needed to ensure the Marine Corps has the right balance of 
dispersed and distributed forces in the Indo-Pacific to work with our 
allies and partners and deter potential adversaries?
    General Berger. In addition to Marine programs, the Marine Corps' 
success of ground modernization is also predicated on Navy shipbuilding 
programs. The vast Indo-Pacific region is ideally suited for naval 
expeditionary forces persistently operating forward to assure allies 
and partners and deter malign behavior from China. Amphibious warfare 
ships allow the United States to position forces forward in 
international waters with Marines poised and ready to conduct a wide 
range of missions supporting the fleet commander's campaign and 
national interests. Authorizing and appropriating amphibious ships in 
future budget requests will ensure we have the right ships available 
for operational tasking in a distributed maritime environment.
    Littoral maneuver, the ability to move at will throughout the 
littoral archipelago, is a key capability for our employment 
objectives. Through analytic rigor, the Navy and Marine Corps 
determined that building the Light Amphibious Warship (LAW) is the best 
solution to this maneuver gap. The LAW, which is a new class of 
warship, will complement existing traditional amphibious warships and 
provide added surface mobility and survivability for Marine Corps 
forces. These functions will be critical to the Marine Corps' ability 
to operate and sustain itself in austere intra-theater locations across 
remote beaches. Funding for this program is in the Navy's research, 
development, test, and evaluation appropriation before transitioning to 
the first ship award.
    Additionally, the fiscal year 2022 budget includes three of the 
Marine Corps' top investments. These investments are in support of the 
initial operations capability of the new 3d Marine Littoral Regiment 
(MLR) in fiscal year 2023. For example, the Marine Corps' highest 
priority is the Navy Marine Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System 
(NMESIS) and its anti-ship missile capability. Eight of the systems in 
the fiscal year 2022 budget request will form the first anti-ship 
missile capability for the Marine Corps. This capability provides the 
Marine Expeditionary Force's kinetic fires to hold adversaries at risk 
and supports the stand-in forces ability to persist within an 
adversary's weapon engagement zone (WEZ).
    The aircraft requested in the fiscal year 2022 budget are critical 
enablers of Marine Corps' units. The six MQ-9A Extended Range in the 
budget request will provide communication data relay and improve 
overall command and control. The six KC-130J in the budget request 
provide the needed air mobility for the Indo-Pacific region. These 
NMESIS anti-ship missile capabilities and aircraft will deliver initial 
capabilities to the Fleet in fiscal year 2023 or shortly thereafter. We
    appreciate your support of these programs in the fiscal year 2022 
budget request and future requests, as we build out the capacities of 
these units.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator James Inhofe
                        virtual training methods
    37. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Gilday, from the recent U.S. Indo-
Pacific Command Pacific Deterrence Initiative report to this Committee 
as well as public statements by Navy flag officers, we understand there 
is a need for a realistic training environment to prepare our 
warfighters to win decisively in a peer or near-peer fight. Fielding a 
Live-Virtual-Constructive (LVC) training solution that enables our 
aviation, land and maritime teams to conduct training that is secure 
and interoperable across the Department of Defense and with Coalition 
partners seems to be a priority, but I am concerned about how long it 
will take the Navy to field LVC.
    With continued successful development, what is the Navy's plan to 
accelerate the fielding of this game changing LVC air combat training 
capability?
    Admiral Gilday. DoN and USAF remain committed to TCTS II/P6 and 
plan to incorporate additional LVC air combat training and LVC testing 
capabilities, such as those being demonstrated this summer and fall, 
into the Program of Record as the most adaptable and executable path 
forward. The complex LVC environment must not only ultimately provide 
high end training across multiple platforms, domains, and services, but 
must also have ties to the flight test environment to enable affordable 
development of future capabilities needed to outpace our adversaries. 
The DoN and USAF will collaborate on the necessary requirements, 
infrastructures, and investments.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Roger Wicker
                           aircraft carriers
    38. Senator Wicker. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, the Navy's 
Shipbuilding Plan, published last week, identifies a target range for 
aircraft carriers as between 9 and 11. The current legal requirement 
for carriers remains 11. The carrier fleet is struggling to meet 
today's operational requirements even with 11 carriers. In February, 
the USS Nimitz returned home from a 321 day deployment--the longest 
ship deployment since the Vietnam era. The USS Ronald Reagan has had to 
abandon her station in the Western Pacific, a strategic priority area, 
to transit to the Middle East in order to support the troop withdrawal 
from Afghanistan. When it arrives, the Reagan will relieve the USS 
Dwight D. Eisenhower, which deployed in February after just returning 
from a seven month deployment last August. What analysis supports 
reduction in requirements for aircraft carriers when the Navy is 
struggling to meet current demands?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. Navy's Long Range Plan for the 
Construction of Naval Vessels provides the objective inventory for 
naval vessels out to the distant future. It is not intended to 
communicate a reduction in requirements, but to highlight a potential 
range, given the long time horizon covered by the plan and the number 
of factors that can ultimately impact ship counts.
    The Navy continues to meet requirements for 11 nuclear powered 
aircraft carriers (CVNs) in support of title 10 requirements. Nuclear 
powered carriers (CVNs) and carrier air wings (CVWs) are the Joint 
Force's most survivable and adaptable aviation basing option. They 
provide sea control and power projection in contested battlespace, 
offering a uniquely valuable combination of maneuver, operational 
reach, volume of fires, sustainability and organic sensors.
    The recent Future Naval Force Study effort--led by the Deputy 
Secretary of Defense and supported by tri-chair leadership from the 
Department of the Navy, Joint Staff and the Office of the Secretary of 
Defense's Office of Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation (OSD CAPE)--
found that in order to maintain dominance, the United States needs a 
naval force that is balanced and can strike targets from the undersea, 
surface, air and land domains.
    As stated in the shipbuilding plan, the Navy--working closely with 
the OSD CAPE--continues to assess naval force structure options 
consistent with Interim National Security Strategic Guidance and 
designed to maximize the maritime contribution to the Joint Force. The 
outcomes of this analytic work will provide key insights in describing 
the future objective battle force.

    39. Senator Wicker. Admiral Gilday, why did the Navy choose to send 
the USS Ronald Reagan, the forward deployed 7th Fleet aircraft carrier, 
to the Middle East?
    Admiral Gilday. A Carrier Strike Group (CSG) was requested by 
United States Central Command in support of the Afghanistan Retrograde 
mission. After providing the Secretary of Defense with the options and 
associated risks, he determined that USS Ronald Reagan was the right 
asset to execute this important mission.

    40. Senator Wicker. Admiral Gilday, as USS Ronald Reagan covers the 
troop withdrawal in Afghanistan, is there an aircraft carrier available 
in the Western Pacific?
    Admiral Gilday. While there is not a CVN currently operating in the 
Western Pacific, RRN could be rapidly redeployed if the circumstances 
or situation in the Western Pacific were to change. Additionally, the 
CARL VINSON CSG is scheduled to arrive in the Western Pacific in mid-
August and could be accelerated if required.
                               shipyards
    41. Senator Wicker. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, Senators 
Kaine, Shaheen, King, Collins, and I introduced the SHIPYARD Act, which 
would provide $25 billion in funding to the Nation's Navy shipyard 
infrastructure in order to repair and modernize these facilities. With 
strong bipartisan support, we hope to help the Navy address what the 
GAO described as the Navy's ``primary readiness challenge.'' If this 
legislation passed, how would the Navy invest these funds to improve 
shipyard infrastructure, both public and private?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. Public Shipyards: The 
Department of the Navy Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Program 
(SIOP) defines investments necessary to improve America's public 
shipyards by modernizing and upgrading their outdated facilities. If 
additional funds were made available via the SHIPYARD Act, the Navy 
would be able to accelerate Phase II and Phase III of the SIOP 
implementation strategy for public dry dock recapitalization, including 
optimized placement of new maintenance facilities and major equipment 
replacement at each public shipyard to support nuclear powered 
submarine and carrier requirements.
    Private Shipyards New Construction and Ship Repair: The Navy is 
supportive of increasing maintenance and construction capacity at the 
Nation's private shipyards. If the SHIPYARD Act were to provide funds 
for use at private shipyards, the Navy would work collaboratively with 
private industry to determine the most effective way to implement those 
funds to improve facilities and infrastructure at our industry 
partner's shipyards.

    42. Senator Wicker. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, how would 
these shipyard investments impact Navy readiness?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. Investments in America's 
shipyards that modernize and upgrade outdated facilities will provide 
the Navy the opportunity to improve maintenance efficiency, reduce 
availability durations, and return ships to the fleet on time.
                 transferring aegis ashore to the army
    43. Senator Wicker. Admiral Gilday, the Army serves as the 
Department of Defense's executive agent for theater integrated air and 
missile defense. Based on public statements, I understand that Navy 
leadership has been exploring options to transfer responsibility for 
the Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense program, which currently has 
sites located in Romania and Poland. Are the Army and Navy developing a 
plan to transfer responsibilities for Aegis Ashore, and if so, what is 
the status of these discussions?
    Admiral Gilday. Per the CNO's 2021 NAVPLAN, the Navy's strategic 
direction includes divesting of non-core Navy missions like Aegis 
Ashore in order to remain ahead of competitors. Transferring shore-
based Ballistic Missile Defense sites to ground forces enables Sailors 
to focus on their core missions at sea and frees up resources to 
increase lethality. The transfer of Aegis Ashore to a ground-based 
service is being addressed within the Department.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mike Rounds
                        naval aircraft readiness
    44. Senator Rounds. Admiral Gilday, according to the fiscal year 
2022 budget request, the Navy plans to retire 55 F/A-18 A-D Hornets in 
fiscal year 2022 and to retire all F/A-18 A-D Hornets by fiscal year 
2024. Meanwhile, the Navy has also requested just 20 F-35Cs this year, 
after acquiring 26 in fiscal year 2021. Admiral, can you articulate the 
operational risk the Navy may be assuming by executing this 
divestiture, while simultaneously requesting cuts to F-35C procurement 
in fiscal year 2022? Is procurement of 5 additional F-35Cs, which 
appears in your unfunded request list, the best way to mitigate this 
operational risk?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy began divesting of 55 F/A-18 A-D Hornets 
in fiscal year 2021. The remaining 33 F/A-18 A-D Hornets, which are 
flown by the Navy Reserves and NAWDC, will be divested in fiscal year 
2022. All 55 F/A-18A-D Hornets are non-combat coded aircraft and 
therefore do not incur any operational risk.
    The DON procurement of F-35Cs in fiscal year 2021 was 26 total (10 
F-35Cs for USMC and 11 F-35Cs for USN with a Congressional add of 5 F-
35C to procure 26 F-35Cs). The USMC procurement plan remained 
consistent in support of the squadron transition roadmap with a 
procurement reduction from 10 F-35Cs in fiscal year 2021 to 5 F-35Cs in 
fiscal year 2022. The USN procurement plan also remained consistent 
from the fiscal year 2021 to the fiscal year 2022 budget request, with 
an increase in procurement from 11 F-35Cs in fiscal year 2021 to 15 F-
35Cs in fiscal year 2022. The request for an additional 5 F-35Cs for 
the USN is needed to mitigate operational risk.
                                 cyber
    45. Senator Rounds. General Berger, I had a phenomenal opportunity 
to visit with the Marines from Marine Forces Cyber last week at U.S. 
Cyber Command. I was impressed with the offensive and defensive 
capabilities they are bringing to the fight. Can you briefly discuss 
the capabilities the Marines bring to the cyber fight and how the 
fiscal year 2022 budget request will shape the Marine Forces Cyber 
operations of the future?
    General Berger. The Commander MARFORCYBER (CDRMARFORCYBER) commands 
both MARFORCYBER and Marine Forces Space (MARFORSPACE). MARFORCYBER and 
MARFORSPACE are delegated authorities by U.S. Cyberspace Command 
(USCYBERCOM) and U.S. Space Command (USSPACECOM) that support service 
level requirements. MARFORCYBER/SPACE exercises both Title 10 and 50 
authorities while organizationally aligned to plan, direct, and provide 
intelligence operations, full-spectrum cyberspace, and space 
operational support to the respective Combatant Commands (CCMD). Major 
subordinate commands (MSC) include Marine Corps Cyberspace Operations 
Group (MCCOG), Marine Corps Cyberspace Warfare Group (MCCWYG), and 
Joint Forces Headquarters Marines Cyber (JFHQ-C(M)).
    Collectively, MARFORCYBER/SPACE conduct operations in the 
information environment (OIE), secure the homeland from cyberspace 
aggression; secure, operate, and defend the Department of Defense 
Information Network (DODIN); advance national interests; and deliver 
capabilities and effects for the Joint Force. MARFORCYBER/SPACE 
capabilities directly align to the National Defense Strategy (NDS):
      Invest in space and cyberspace warfighting domains
      Provide more lethal, resilient and rapidly innovating 
forces
      Increase speed and reach
      Incorporate new technologies
      Support the Global Operating Model
      Invest in command, control, communications, computers, 
cyber-defense, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (C5ISR) 
from the tactical to strategic levels
      Organize for innovation
    The relationship between space and cyberspace is unique in that 
many space operations depend on cyberspace, and a critical portion of 
cyberspace can only be provided via space operations. MARFORCYBER 
provides on-demand capabilities to support CCMDs with the ability to 
impact objectives through the application of cyberspace capabilities 
and effects across the globe in all warfighting domains. MARFORCYBER 
utilizes a range of tools to conduct surveillance and reconnaissance, 
collect and analyze data, improve situational awareness, execute the 
targeting cycle, and assure command and control across the spectrum of 
competition. Simultaneously, MARFORCYBER enables the warfighter through 
protecting and hardening our own networks. The current capabilities of 
MARFORSPACE are growing rapidly along with our joint partners and will 
ensure that the Marine Corps contributes effective forces that enable 
space dominance.
    How will the fiscal year 2022 budget request shape the Marine 
Forces Cyber operations of the future?
    Fiscal year 2022 is a pivotal year for MARFORCYBER/SPACE. The funds 
provided in this and future years' budgets are critical to maintaining 
the tactical and strategic edge over our competitors.
    CDRMARFORCYBER has released a fiscal year 2022 Campaign Plan that 
will train and set the conditions for MARFORCYBER/SPACE personnel to 
respond to major contingencies and achieve the information advantage in 
conflict. Initiatives include naval integration, contingency planning, 
development of domestic and international partnerships, and 
participation in global exercises. This is in support of USMC Force 
Design 2030 Initiatives that modernize the force for the INDOPACOM AOR. 
The fiscal year 2022 Budget is critical to achieving MARFORCYBER's 
fiscal year 2022 Campaign Plan (CP) objectives and maintaining momentum 
in each of the associated lines of effort (LOEs): Information Maneuver, 
Defense-in-Depth, Assured C2, and Space Operationalization.
    MARFORCYBER/SPACE enable the service to secure, operate, and defend 
the Marine Corps Enterprise Network (MCEN) while fielding new 
capabilities to make critical networks resilient and responsive to 
operational needs. During fiscal year 2022, resources are dedicated to 
the deployed MCEN (D-MCEN) project that will consolidate networks and 
security to ensure greater capability at the tactical edge. Resources 
will be applied through a variety of initiatives that include, but are 
not limited to:
      Mission focused cyber hardening and mission assurance 
programs
      Improvement of operational architectures through various 
optimization and secure cloud migration programs
      Artificial intelligence, machine learning, and automation
      Defensive cyber tool and capability development
      Data sharing and analytics that support offensive and 
defensiveness cyberspace operations, OIE, and Joint Forces
    In order to maintain relevance in a highly technical and rapidly 
evolving domain, any future funding and resources will be applied to 
operations, activities, and investments (OAI) such as:
      Pacing adversarial threats and enhancing integrated 
deterrence capabilities
      Invest in capability development and force modernization
      Preempt, disrupt, and counter adversaries in and through 
the OIE
      Set conditions to rapidly respond to armed conflict
      Refine C2 and enhance readiness
      Enhance the service's ability to deliver long-range 
precision kinetic and non-kinetic fires
      Secure, operate, defend, optimize, and modernize the 
Marine Corps portion of DODIN
      Protect critical infrastructure
      Invest in people (Active Duty, Reserve, and Civilian)
      Enhance training to transform human capital
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Thom Tillis
                      distributed stovl operations
    46. Senator Tillis. General Berger, the Marine Corps continues to 
build upon past experience with distributed operations with Short Take-
Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) aircraft. Military exercises like the 
2017 operations in Yap and Palau with MV-22B Ospreys and AV-8B Harriers 
from the USS America showcase this. As the Marine Corps transitions its 
primary STOVL fighter to the F-35B, exercises must continue that put 
this new aircraft in similar conditions. In this effort, what role do 
distributed STOVL operations play in the broader transformation efforts 
of the Marine Corps?
    General Berger. Conducting operations in the contested environment 
that is the Indo-Pacific region requires us to continue the 
expeditionary nature on which the Marine Corps has built its legacy. 
Investment in the F-35B underpins our efforts as we pursue a more 
agile, lethal aviation force. The F-35B's STOVL capability affords the 
combatant commander an additional flexibility of 5th generation combat 
power, not feasible with conventional fixed-wing platforms. This STOVL 
capability further develops our globally deployable Naval Expeditionary 
Force. As we continue to tailor our combat power offering to the Joint 
Force, we are exploring options for the proper complement of MV-22s and 
F-35s employed from the ARG/MEU. We have recently completed the 
academic rigor validating the inclusion of 10 F-35s in the Aviation 
Combat Element aboard the LHA and are continuing experimentation 
efforts, most notably as a 20-plane complement of F-35Bs aboard an 
America Class LHA in spring of 2022. As we prepare ourselves to serve 
as the stand-in force, we are constrained by the realities of limited 
conventional airfields throughout the first and second island chains. 
Our STOVL capability further challenges the adversary's ability to 
counter the force due to the inherent ability to rapidly employ from 
austere and expeditionary, shore and ship based environments. In order 
to sustain this force throughout the contact and blunt phases, it is 
imperative that we maximize the utility of the STOVL assets in our 
inventory.

    47. Senator Tillis. General Berger, how does the budget support or 
not support distributed STOVL operations with different or additional 
hardware, training, and logistics? What can we do to assist the Marine 
Corps in this transformative effort?
    General Berger. The PB22 budget request continues support of the 
USMC TACAIR transition and inherent distributed STOVL operations 
capabilities. The procurement of 17 F-35B aircraft will support the 
transition and stand-up of three F-35B squadrons in the fiscal year 
2023 to fiscal year 2025 timeframe, including our 1st of 5 squadrons 
based in Cherry Point, NC. Below-the-line requirements are fully 
supported and critical to preventing exacerbation of the existing 
Peculiar Ground Support Equipment (PGSE) gap. We have asked for 
specific support on the USMC Unfunded Priority List (UPL) for 
additional PGSE to address this gap, and are currently mitigating its 
effects through cross-decking or ``sharing'' of PGSE among units. This 
has strained the readiness and availability of F-35 support equipment, 
which in turn threatens the Marine Corps' ability to effectively train 
to and perform distributed operations.
    Additionally, modernization modifications supported in the budget 
request will enable the upgrade of lower Low Rate Initial Production 
(LRIP) aircraft to the TR-3 configuration, which enables the broad 
future F-35 capabilities required for all F-35 mission sets including 
facilitation of distributed operations. Continued Congressional support 
of the USMC budget request is crucial to maintaining the TACAIR 
transition timeline and delivering USMC F-35 capabilities critical to 
Force Design 2030.
                        assault support capacity
    48. Senator Tillis. General Berger, in the face of contested 
logistics in the Pacific theater, how is the Marine Corps revamping or 
evolving its concept of operations and will that have any impact on the 
CH-53K requirements or program?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps' new document, ``A Concept for 
Stand-in Forces'' guides how the Marine Corps will operate in the Indo-
Pacific region and other parts of globe defined by the littorals. EABO 
is a form of expeditionary warfare that involves the employment of 
mobile, low-signature, persistent, and relatively easy to maintain and 
sustain naval expeditionary forces. These forces will operate from 
austere, temporary locations, ashore or inshore, within a contested or 
potentially contested maritime area to conduct sea denial, support sea 
control, or enable fleet sustainment.
    The CH-53K will enable the mobility needed to operate in these 
environments. More specifically, it will greatly reduce the reliance of 
Marines within the littorals on external mobility support. The Marine 
Corps is committed to the CH-53K program and is evaluating its quantity 
requirements. The CH-53K provides a greater payload than any current or 
emerging rotorcraft, both at sea level and high altitude conditions, at 
greater ranges to support the rapid transition of Joint and Coalition 
forces from contact to blunt layer activities in a contested 
environment. Its purpose based capabilities provide for the resupply of 
the stand-in force from within and outside of the enemy's weapons 
engagement zone (WEZ). The CH-53K is the most capable and survivable 
assault support aircraft that enables the rapid deployment, movement 
and resupply of stand-in forces within a contested Indo-Pacific region.

    49. Senator Tillis. General Berger, do you foresee the MV-22B and 
CH-53K as being survivable within the envisioned Marine Corps concept 
of employment?
    General Berger. Yes, provided the required investments in 
modernization and survivability are supported and continue to advance. 
The MV-22B and CH-53K are currently being configured with a common 
Electronic Countermeasures (ECM) suite that provides a reprogrammable 
radar and missile warning system, attacking missile declaration, sector 
direction finding, laser detection, and self-protection capability. The 
digitization of communications, along with spectrum diversity, sensor 
modernization and netting, and the coupling with appropriate counter 
measures significantly increases the ability to operate in contested 
environments, through a multi-layered approach to the challenges. 
Combined with modernization investments of survivability equipment, 
proven assault support tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) in 
preparation for, and response to an enemy threat, will continue to 
advance through the integration of kinetic and non-kinetic fires to 
assist with freedom of maneuver both in and outside the enemy's weapons 
engagement zone. Those TTPs use a multipronged approach to identify, 
avoid, and communicate a threat throughout the battlespace; using 
aircraft designed and equipped with maximum vulnerability reduction 
features, robust and redundant systems, designed to provide 
survivability protection to provide the ability to fly home should they 
sustain combat damage.

    50. Senator Tillis. General Berger, in a distributed environment, 
it would appear that organic lift capabilities would be a necessary 
requirement. Moreover, given the austere nature of this environment and 
potentially limited space, it would also seem that vertical take-off 
and landing capabilities would be needed. How does the Marine Corps 
seek to fill these requirements with adequate resources given a 
reduction in overall medium- and heavy-lift assets?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is committed to continuing to 
invest in its fixed-wing and rotary-wing programs, while balancing the 
needs of the overall force. While enhancing the lethality of the Force, 
Force Design modernization efforts are also reducing the overall end 
strength of the Marine Corps. The reduction in medium- and heavy-lift 
aircraft will take into account the smaller structure of the Marine 
Corps to right size the Assault Support requirements needed. Though the 
force is reducing total numbers, medium- and heavy-lift assault support 
is prioritized to MARFORPAC reflected in the force laydown of four West 
Coast CH-53 squadrons, five West Coast MV-22 squadrons, two Hawaii MV-
22 squadrons, and two Okinawa, Japan based MV-22 squadrons. Marine 
Corps assault support is regionally aligned to support Force Design 
2030.
    In the Marine Corps assault support portfolio, the development and 
fielding of the CH-53K maximizes work effectiveness and efficiency, 
ultimately improving overall reliability and decreasing operating and 
support costs in comparison to the CH-53E, which is facing parts 
obsolescence issues as a legacy platform. In addition to an increase in 
heavy lift performance, the CH-53K reduces operational risk as a modern 
fly by wire helicopter with greater safety, survivability, and 
reliability capable of integrating into the current battlefield and 
taking advantage of future technologies, such as manned/unmanned 
teaming and MAGTF digital interoperability.
                          air wing composition
    51. Senator Tillis. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, given the 
recent force design decisions as well as the focus on manned/unmanned 
pairing, how is the Marine Corps thinking about meeting their 
conventional carrier fighter squadron requirements with the F-35C? Do 
you foresee making any changes?
    Admiral Gilday. The Marine Corps is committed to meeting our 
conventional carrier fighter squadron requirements. The Marine Corps 
has continued to procure F-35Cs with the intent of equipping our four 
F-35C squadrons, meeting the conventional carrier requirement. In early 
July of this year, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 314, out of Miramar, 
California was the first Marine squadron to be declared fully 
operational capable.
    We do not foresee any changes to our carrier fighter squadron 
requirement.
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is committed to meeting our 
conventional carrier fighter squadron requirements. The Marine Corps 
has continued to procure F-35Cs with the intent of equipping our four 
F-35C squadrons, meeting the conventional carrier requirement. In early 
July of this year, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 314, out of Miramar, 
California was the first Marine squadron to be declared fully 
operational capable. We do not foresee any changes to our carrier 
fighter squadron requirement.

    52. Senator Tillis. Admiral Gilday, how are the Navy and Marine 
Corps looking to integrate unmanned aircraft into the fleet and what is 
the goal for the ratio of manned and unmanned aircraft?
    Admiral Gilday. Given our adversaries' abilities to strike with 
increasing range, precision, and lethality, we must reduce exposure of 
our Marines wherever possible and correspondingly increase our reliance 
on unmanned systems. These platforms and payloads will be pivotal on 
the future battlefield. The ability to flood an adversary's decision-
making and targeting processes with an array of low signature, 
affordable, and risk-worthy platforms in the air, as well as on the 
ground and on the surface, will greatly expand the survivability and 
capabilities of Marines operating within the adversary's weapon 
engagement zones. For two decades, the Marine Corps has relied on 
unmanned aerial systems to provide reconnaissance for our ground 
forces, and the Marine Corps will continue this investment in the 
future.
    The Marine Corps is investing in a new group 5 capability UAS, and 
the identified materiel solution is the MQ-9A Extended Range. This UAS 
platform will fulfill a primary mission of communication and data relay 
with an additional airborne early warning capability. This will provide 
deployed Marine Corps and Joint Force units with persistent tactical 
maritime Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance and command and 
control gateways. The MQ-9A Extended Range is also a critical enabler 
to the Naval force in building an alternate Precision, Navigation, and 
Timing network.
    The Marine Corps seeks to procure six MQ-9A Extended Range systems 
in fiscal year 2022, and a total of 18 systems over the next several 
years, to form three UAS squadrons. The Marine Corps will leverage an 
existing Air Force system and two current Marine Corps assets in 
USCENTCOM to reduce risk, while providing advanced capabilities to the 
Marine Corps and overall joint warfighting enterprise.
    In addition to the MQ-9A Extended Range, the Marine Corps continues 
to develop and experiment with a family of UAS with a variety of plug-
and-play payloads. These systems will give ground combat units organic 
Reconnaissance, Surveillance, and Target Acquisition (RSTA) assets 
capable of supporting long-range precision kinetic and non-kinetic 
fires, both afloat and ashore. This includes conducting extended user 
evaluations with industry leading systems to include the UAV V-BAT and 
the Stalker UAS to inform requirements for the Ground Combat Element.
                            long-range fires
    53. Senator Tillis. General Berger, the Marine Corps has requested 
funds for a ground-launched version of the Tomahawk cruise missile. In 
addition to being a physically large weapon, the Tomahawk has a pretty 
extensive range that would allow Marine forces to engage targets across 
a theater. How does the Marine Corps envision integrating those assets 
with existing Marine command and control and with some of the higher-
level joint command and control structures within the theater?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps Long Range Fires (LRF) program, 
which is developing the capability to launch Tomahawk missiles from 
ground-based launchers, will also field the fire control hardware and 
software to enable the Marine weapons to be integrated into existing 
Joint/Naval command, control and communications systems. The LRF 
program will support joint targeting, mission planning, and the 
execution of precision strikes. These systems form architectures and 
support the processes that enable the situational awareness, planning, 
coordination, and control that is necessary to employ this weapon 
system over extensive ranges.

    54. Senator Tillis. General Berger, would these weapons directly 
support Marines forward? The broader joint force? How would those 
decisions be made?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps will operationally assign Tomahawk 
missile-capable Long Range Fires units to a Marine Expeditionary Force 
as a general support, long-range, lethal capability available for 
National Command Authority and Geographic Combatant Commander tasking. 
These assets would be employed in the same manner as other naval 
Tomahawk missiles, providing an alternate method of employing highly 
effective missile systems against a variety of targets in the land and 
maritime domains.

    55. Senator Tillis. General Berger, what can this Committee do to 
assist in your acquisition of this capability?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps respectfully requests that 
Congress supports the President's Budget request for fiscal year 2022. 
Additionally, the Marine Corps submitted an unfunded priority list 
(UPL), and the third item was Tomahawk missiles for this Long Range 
Fires capability. The Marine Corps appreciates your continued support 
and is on track to begin delivering the capability in fiscal year 2024.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                              icebreakers
    56. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, in 
Secretary Harker's prepared testimony, he described the Tri-Service 
Maritime Strategy, Advantage at Sea, as a ``truly collaborative 
maritime strategic planning effort led jointly by all three of our 
Nation's sea services--Navy, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard.'' He also 
stated that, ``[i]n order to execute these goals, Admiral Gilday, 
General Berger, Admiral Schultz and I are working together in order to 
promote integration, communication, and collaboration as a warfighting 
priority,'' and that ``[t]here can be no daylight between us as we 
strengthen the integrated all-domain Naval power of the United 
States.'' In the past few years, one issue has demonstrated a lot of 
daylight between the Navy and the Coast Guard--icebreakers. The Navy's 
Arctic Strategy says the ``United States Naval forces must operate more 
assertively across the Arctic Region to prevail in day-to-day 
competition.'' The Russians have over 40 icebreakers, the Chinese have 
three, and the United States has 1.5. How can the U.S. Navy operate 
more assertively in the Arctic without icebreakers?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. While the Navy strongly 
supports the national need for icebreaking capability and capacity, and 
supports the Coast Guard's recapitalization of their polar icebreaking 
fleet, the Navy already operates extensively in the Arctic. Our 
submarines have routinely operated in the Arctic since 1958, and we had 
near continuous surface ship operations in the High North from April-
November 2020. Additionally, we regularly participate in Arctic and 
High North exercises such as Northern Edge in May 2021.

    57. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday, do you 
see collaboration with the Coast Guard on icebreaker acquisition as 
aligned with the precepts outlined in the Tri-Service Maritime 
Strategy?
    Secretary Harker and Admiral Gilday. Yes, the Navy's collaboration 
with the Coast Guard on icebreaker acquisition are in alignment with 
the Tri-Service Strategy, specifically the precepts of day-to-day 
competition in the polar region and integrated All-Domain Naval Power. 
This partnership allows the Navy to leverage the Coast Guard's mission 
focus and unique expertise operating in the polar region, while the 
Coast Guard utilizes the Navy's proficiency in ship acquisition and 
program management.
                               sea denial
    58. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday, you have described the 
purpose of Marine Corps expeditionary advanced bases as supporting sea 
denial and sea control. An essential component of the Marine Corps' 
ability to conduct the sea denial mission is anti-ship missiles, 
including the Naval Strike Missile and Maritime Strike Tomahawk. These 
missiles are #1 and #3 on the Marine Corps' unfunded priorities list. 
The Marine Corps, in General Berger's estimation, has almost no sea 
denial capability or capacity currently. How does inadequate Marine 
Corps sea denial capability and capacity impact fleet operations 
against the pacing threat?
    Admiral Gilday. The Marine Corps recognizes that their sea denial 
capability gap negatively impacts distributed naval operations and is 
taking action to rapidly close the gap. The Marine Corps is developing 
a ground-based, anti-ship missile (GBASM) capability. The first 
iteration of this GBASM capability is the Navy/Marine Expeditionary 
Ship Interdiction System (NMESIS), which fires the Naval Strike 
Missile. It will be introduced to the Fleet in fiscal year 2024.
    Today, the Navy is shouldering the burden of sea denial from our 
air, surface and subsurface platforms. As the Marine Corps' sea denial 
capacity grows, directly supporting the Navy's sea denial and sea 
control missions, it will reduce some of that burden on Navy platforms 
and potentially free those assets to conduct other missions.
                      marine corps systems at sea
    59. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, you have testified to 
Congress and written about the need for Marines to be more than 
passengers on Navy ships as they transit to the fight. In the last few 
years, Marine Corps systems such as the Light Amphibious Vehicle and 
Light Marine Air Defense Integrated System have augmented organic 
defensive capabilities on amphibious ships transiting through maritime 
chokepoints. Has the Marine Corps conducted any tests or experiments 
operating any of its land-based systems--including Ground-Based Anti-
Ship Missile, air defense, or counter-UAS--from aboard ships?
    General Berger. Yes, the Marine Corps has tested and employed 
offensive and defensive capabilities onboard Navy ships. The Marine 
Corps has employed L-MADIS aboard Navy ships with both East- and West-
Coast Marine Expeditionary Units for the past four years. These 
capabilities were highlighted in July 2019 when Marines from the 11th 
Marine Expeditionary Unit onboard the USS Boxer successfully jammed an 
Iranian UAS during transit through the Straits of Hormuz.
    Additionally, Marines successfully tested the High Mobility 
Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) from the flight deck of the San 
Antonio-class amphibious transport dock ship USS Anchorage (LPD 23) 
during Dawn Blitz 2017. During this test while at sea, the HIMARS 
engaged a land-based target at a range of 70 kilometers. The Ground-
Based, Anti-Ship Missile (GBASM) capability is in the early stages of 
testing and has yet to be tested on a Navy ship.
              navy-marine corps integration in ship design
    60. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, both of 
you have spoken at length about increased integration, coordination, 
and cooperation between the Navy and Marine Corps. As part of the 
requirements and ship design process, is the Department of the Navy 
considering how existing or planned Marine Corps systems can be 
integrated into and operated from Navy ships to augment organic 
offensive and defensive capabilities?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy is committed to improving the overall 
lethality and survivability of our amphibious force. We continue to 
explore concepts to improve our defensive and offensive capability, as 
well as improved C2 through continued development of systems such as 
the Common Aviation Command and Control System (CAC2S). We are also 
supporting Fleet and USMC studies, war games, and experiments to 
develop new capabilities through science and technology efforts. 
Finally, we are initiating a Capabilities Based Assessment to start 
development of the LPD Flight II replacement.
    General Berger. The Marine Corps works in concert with the Navy to 
ensure that Marine Corps systems are integrated into Navy ships. While 
on board, the Marine Expeditionary Unit's Air Combat Element 
contributes to the defense of the amphibious task force. For example, 
the Marine Corps' F-35B aircraft provide long-range maritime domain 
awareness and strike capabilities. Rotary wing H-1 aircraft track 
surface, subsurface, and airborne threats using Digital Interoperable 
networks to cue and engage as necessary, and MV-22B tiltrotor aircraft 
integrate with the ship's defensive networks to provide classified and 
unclassified data.
    The Marine Corps is an integral and active participant in the Naval 
Tactical Grid efforts to ensure that Marine Corps forces afloat and 
ashore can connect and share data with Navy platforms. One initiative 
to gain greater interoperability is the Navy's implementation of Common 
Aviation Command and Control System Afloat on Navy amphibious ships. 
This system, which will share a common software baseline with the 
Marine Corps variant, is integrated with the Navy's Consolidated Afloat 
Network and Enterprise System to leverage Joint Strike Fighter, Link 
16, fires, and situational awareness data while Marines are embarked. 
The first installation of Common Aviation Command and Control System 
Afloat took place in August 2019 on USS America (LHA-6) and was 
subsequently installed on three other LHD/LHA ships. Additional 
installations on LHD/LHA and LPD amphibious ships are scheduled for 
fiscal year 2022.
    As another example of Marines supporting the ship's defensive 
capabilities, the Marine Corps has employed Light-Marine Air Defense 
Integrated System (L-MADIS) onboard Navy ships with both east- and 
west-coast Marine Expeditionary Units for the past four years. This was 
highlighted in July 2019 when Marines from the 11th Marine 
Expeditionary Unit onboard the USS Boxer successfully jammed an Iranian 
UAS during transit through the Straits of Hormuz.
                           force design 2030
    61. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what is your vision of the 
Reserve component's role in Force Design 2030?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps Reserve, as part of the single 
integrated Total Force, remains a vital contributor to the warfighting 
capability and capacity of the Naval Service. The Marine Corps is 
committed to sustaining a relevant and capable Reserve Force.
    The Marine Corps Reserve is focused not only on integrating with 
the Active component across the competition continuum, including 
conflict, but also on providing specialized and general-purpose 
conventional forces to II Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF) in response 
to global contingencies. Further, the Marine Corps Reserve is uniquely 
postured to partner with the Navy's 4th Fleet in USSOUTHCOM. This 
partnership will generate opportunities to first develop and then 
employ unique talent and skillsets that will contribute to a campaign 
of maritime competition, as we enhance global maritime interoperability 
with our partners and allies.
    While Force Design focuses on meeting maritime and joint service 
requirements against the pacing threat, II MEF and Marine Forces 
Reserve (MARFORRES) remain ``service-retained forces'' tasked as the 
Service's offering for global crisis and contingency response. Given 
the challenging resourcing environment, service-retained forces may not 
require the same capabilities that the Service's primary mission 
compels for III and I MEF forces. Accordingly, II MEF will be the 
pacing MEF for MARFORRES resourcing, capabilities, and requirements. 
MARFORRES will also continue to provide capabilities within INDOPACOM 
through the Service's unit deployment program, as required in support 
of III MEF.
    Finally, experimentation and innovation efforts are vital to the 
Service's Force Design initiatives. Within the Reserve component, there 
are marines who have unique skillsets developed in academia or the 
commercial sector that will be essential for strategic competition. 
This diverse talent can be leveraged to advance innovation for the 
Naval Services. We will identify and invest in proven Marines who have 
an aptitude and desire to gain new, complex warfighting skills. These 
Marines will represent some of our most vital warfighting capabilities 
and capacity as they develop enhanced skillsets through continued 
service in the Marine Corps Reserve.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Marsha Blackburn
                          competing with china
    62. Senator Blackburn. General Berger, you have said ``We must 
continue to seek the affordable and plentiful at the expense of the 
exquisite.'' How does the concept of ``the affordable and plentiful at 
the expense of the exquisite and few'' translate into your envisioned 
force laydown within U.S. Indo-Pacific Command?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is building a ready, globally-
employed, naval force that relies on organic lift--not strategic lift. 
It is dynamic and postured forward in competition and ready to 
transition rapidly to conflict, and back again. Our new Marine Littoral 
Regiments (MLRs) will be organized, trained, and equipped to support 
sea denial and sea control operations within actively contested 
maritime spaces as part of a modernized III Marine Expeditionary Force 
(III MEF). The MLR is a smaller, more agile, and low-signature force, 
yet is more lethal with longer range precision fires, as compared to 
those of legacy Marine infantry regiments. III MEF and the Navy's 7th 
Fleet will support the future MLRs with significant additional 
capabilities and equipment, including an integrated communication and 
sensor architecture, aviation assets (MQ-9A, F-35, KC-130J, MV-22, and 
CH-53K), maritime mobility and maneuver (Light Amphibious Warships and 
traditional amphibious warships).
    In addition to the MLR, the Marine Corps will still operate its 
Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs) in concert with the Navy's Amphibious 
Ready Groups (ARGs). The MEU/ARG will continue to provide the Nation 
with a global crisis response capability. The MEUs crisis response 
capability was recently demonstrated when Marines from the 24th MEU 
were dynamically re-tasked from operations in the North Arabian Gulf to 
support the evacuation mission in Afghanistan.
    III MEF, in conjunction with 7th Fleet, will exercise and operate 
with our allies and partners in the Indo-Pacific. This forward posture 
will provide operational and strategic depth to the Joint and multi-
national force. III MEF as a stand-in force, will operate in a 
distributed manner complicating an adversary's decision-making 
calculus. III MEF will leverage the MLR and organic assets to establish 
a network of expeditionary advanced bases designed to project credible 
anti-access/area denial capabilities against a peer adversary in a 
littoral fight.
    The approach of ``the affordable and plentiful'' supports our 
concepts for Stand-in Forces and Expeditionary Advanced Base 
Operations. Stand-in Forces are forward-postured, steady state forces 
operating in contested areas within an adversary's weapon engagement 
zone (WEZ). By being able to transition rapidly from competition to 
conflict creates a strategic advantage for the joint force. We envision 
these forces being able to establish and conduct expeditionary advanced 
base operations (EABO). EABO is a form of expeditionary warfare that 
calls for naval expeditionary forces operating from a series of 
austere, temporary locations ashore or inshore with a contested 
maritime area. To be successful, these stand-in forces need to be 
small, lethal, low signature and mobile. A force with these attributes 
will be allowed to remain positioned to achieve desired operational 
effects while complicating adversary efforts to find and target them.
    For stand-in forces to conduct EABO they require a variety of 
options, such as future amphibious ships, unmanned platforms, and other 
smaller more lethal and more agile platforms.

    63. Senator Blackburn. General Berger, how can our force laydown in 
U.S. Indo-Pacific Command reduce dependence on concentrated, 
vulnerable, and expensive forward infrastructure and platforms?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps is in close coordination with the 
Navy as we continue to develop concepts of operations and capabilities 
for distributed lethality. In steady-state, forward-deployed forces 
demonstrate our commitment to our allies and partners, providing 
combat-ready forces in theater, and building ally and partner 
capability through bilateral and multilateral exercises. The Marine 
Corps, as the Stand-In Force, will be forward-postured, steady-state 
forces operating in contested areas--capable of transitioning rapidly 
from competition to crisis to conflict and back again to create a 
strategic advantage. These operations must be carried out in close 
partnership with host nations and partners.
    The Stand-In Forces are expeditionary in nature, with small 
footprints and fewer infrastructure requirements, which makes them less 
burdensome on host nations than are larger U.S. formations.
    These expeditionary capabilities are reliant on ready lift 
collocated with operating forces. Forward stationed and rotational 
forces support partner and ally readiness, bolstering their ability to 
resist coercion and malign activities, while contributing to a free and 
open Indo-Pacific. Our forward forces' engagements with regional 
partners during competition improves Joint Force access, basing, and 
overflight prior to a potential crisis. While we may conduct limited 
operations from legacy bases in crisis and conflict, our expeditionary 
nature and organic lift will ensure we can rapidly distribute lethal 
forces to continue to operate wherever required.

    64. Senator Blackburn. General Berger, as we look at the Marine 
Corps' role in Great Power Competition, what unique capabilities can 
you currently provide or are on pace to provide, that will enable us to 
compete and win within the ``Grey Zone''?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps possesses, or over the next 
several years, will field advanced capabilities in long range precision 
fires, resilient communications, intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance platforms, and in influencing organizations--all to 
deter conflict and win within the competition continuum. In the fiscal 
year 2022 budget request, the Marine Corps requested funding for the 
MQ-9A Extended Range unmanned aerial system (UAS), which will assist in 
communications data relay and overall maritime domain awareness. 
Additionally, the Marine Corps requested funding for the Navy/Marine 
Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System (NMESIS), which will be able to 
strike ships, holding adversary assets at risk and contributing to the 
Navy's sea denial mission. Advanced capabilities such as these along 
with the capabilities provided by organizations like the Marine 
Information Group, (MIG), will provide exploitable advantages in 
competition, while enhancing lethality should competition turn to 
conflict. These capabilities are on schedule for fielding by fiscal 
year 2024 and will be critical enablers to Naval and Joint Forces in 
contested maritime environments.
    The Marine Corps modernization efforts are ultimately enabling the 
establishment and implementation of what the Marine Corps refers to as 
the Stand-in Force concept, or SIF concept. The SIF concept dictates 
that Marines perform three essential functions; find and track 
adversary threats inside a given area, remain difficult to find to a 
potential adversary, and if armed conflict begins, use knowledge of the 
adversary to help the fleet or other elements of the joint force attack 
quickly and effectively. These enduring functions of the SIF, combined 
with Marines' forward posture and modernized capabilities, yield two 
primary benefits. First, it supports deterrence through approaches such 
as ``deterrence by detection.'' Second, in the event deterrence fails 
and armed conflict occurs, winning the reconnaissance fight allows the 
fleet to attack effectively first and seize the initiative. The concept 
is being refined and is expected to be implemented across the Indo-
Pacific region in the near future.

    65. Senator Blackburn. General Berger, as the future operating 
concept of the force would necessitate, what coordination has been 
done--with U.S. Indo-Pacific Command and the Department of State--to 
identify where our expeditionary basing locations would be, where our 
stand-in forces would bed down, and what sort of weapons systems are 
tolerable for our regional partners to be hosting on their home turf?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps continues to coordinate its global 
posture through the Global Posture Executive Council (GPEC), which 
includes OSD, State Department, Joint Staff, Combatant Commands, and 
Service participants. This past summer, we supported the Global Posture 
Review, and we continue to provide details that will shape OSD's final 
report and support OSD and State Department policy recommendations. We 
continue to discuss with OSD to support coordinated efforts across the 
DOD and enable effective State Department and Inter-Agency engagement.
    The Department of State, in particular, is a pivotal partner, based 
on the essential coordination with friendly nations on which the Marine 
Corps Concept for Stand-In Forces is based. All parts of the U.S. 
presence need to speak with one voice in engagements with those 
nations. As the Stand-In Force, Marines will often be operating from 
host nations' sovereign littorals, which will necessitate true 
partnerships and a common cause for deterrence outcomes. Today, the 
U.S. forward defensive posture in the western Pacific is enabled by 
strong alliances and partnerships built on shared values and interests. 
For Stand-In Forces to be effective, this must continue.
                  nuclear sea-launched cruise missile
    66. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Harker, why was the decision to 
cancel the Nuclear Sea-Launched Cruise Missile made prior to the 
Nuclear Posture Review?
    Secretary Harker. As part of the Department of Defense (DOD) 
programming and budgeting process, Services make many early assumptions 
to help shape the Service's input into the broader DOD budget request. 
These assumptions are further refined throughout the budgeting process 
in a collaborative process with the Office of the Secretary of Defense 
and DOD stakeholders. Internal planning guidance deferred programmatic 
decisions until later in the budget process so as to be informed by the 
on-going 2021 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR), which is reviewing all 
strategic weapons systems. The Department of the Navy is committed to 
fully funding the validated requirements as outlined by the NPR and as 
directed by the Administration.

    67. Senator Blackburn. Secretary Harker, regardless of what you may 
have previously published with respect to defunding the Nuclear Sea-
Launched Cruise Missile, do you believe that is a strategically 
relevant weapon system?
    Secretary Harker. The requirement to pursue a Sea Launched Cruise 
Missile-Nuclear (SLCM-N) originated with the 2018 Nuclear Posture 
Review (NPR). The Navy completed its Analysis of Alternatives earlier 
this year, and included funding in the fiscal year 2022 President's 
Budget to support the start of the program. The Department of Defense 
is now conducting a new 2021 NPR and I understand that the SLCM-N 
capability is being discussed as part of that review. The Navy will 
support the results of the 2021 NPR.
             artificial intelligence in personnel decisions
    68. Senator Blackburn. Admiral Gilday, on a surface level, do you 
see Artificial Intelligence providing an advantage to the career 
monitor population in terms of slating Sailors and Naval Officers for 
future assignments?
    Admiral Gilday. Advanced computing technology, such as machine 
learning or Artificial Intelligence (AI), could increase efficiencies 
and automate processes when developing assignment slates. While AI may 
not always account for the nuances or other special cases for each 
service member, Navy is exploring new initiatives to better support the 
slating of enlisted and officer assignments.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Josh Hawley
                    the threat of the fait accompli
    69. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, the Tri-
Service Maritime Strategy says, ``In the event of conflict, China . . . 
will likely attempt to seize territory before the United States and its 
allies can mount an effective response--leading to a fait accompli.'' 
Can you explain why the Tri-Service Maritime Strategy highlights the 
threat of a Chinese fait accompli?
    Admiral Gilday. In a fait accompli scenario the People's Republic 
of China (PRC) will likely attempt to rapidly seize territory before 
the United States and its allies can mount an effective response and 
then quickly reinforce its lodgment with long-range fires to deter any 
future response. We highlight this in the Tri-Service Maritime Strategy 
because it is likely that China would do this in initiating military 
action in the Western Pacific, which poses a serious challenge to the 
Naval Service.
    A fait accompli scenario reinforces the need for the Naval Service 
to maintain a combat credible presence in the Western Pacific to 
respond with little warning in the event the PRC takes overt military 
action in violation of international law. A core tenet of the Tri-
Service Maritime Strategy is the need for the Naval Service to continue 
operating forward to deter coercive behavior and conventional 
aggression as well as to reassure allies and partners.
    General Berger. Senator, as America's expeditionary force in 
readiness, and with clear guidance that China is our pacing threat, we 
have an obligation to think through what China's likely courses of 
action are during competition or conflict. We have clear evidence that 
China's preferred option is to make their desired objectives an 
accomplished fact (a fait accompli) by moving rapidly before we, our 
allies, and partners can react, thus forcing us to either accept new 
conditions on the ground or escalate. Military history is replete with 
examples where aggressors employed this gambit with both successful and 
unsuccessful outcomes. In many of the most likely crisis scenarios, 
China and Russia enjoy the advantage of proximity, while the United 
States must address numerous challenges (time, space, mass, critical 
infrastructure) to project military power within the contested region. 
This positional advantage, therefore, must elevate the possibility of 
adversary fait accompli strategies within our contingency planning 
scenarios. As a result, the fait accompli threat needs to be at the 
forefront of our minds as we build the Force Design 2030 force.

    70. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, I've asked 
Secretary Austin, Deputy Secretary Hicks, and nearly every other 
defense leader who has come before this Committee if the United States 
should maintain its ability to defeat a Chinese fait accompli against 
Taiwan. They have all responded in the affirmative. Do you agree that 
we need to maintain this capability?
    Admiral Gilday. The United States has a serious commitment to 
preserving peace and security in the Western Pacific, including 
encouraging the peaceful resolution of cross-Strait issues and ensuring 
that Taiwan can defend itself from China. We stand behind this 
commitment and believe it would be a serious mistake for China to 
threaten the status quo of peace and stability across the Taiwan 
Strait. If China threatens that status quo, the United States Navy can 
provide a credible force to defeat the PRC invasion against Taiwan. To 
sustain America's advantage at sea, the Navy will deliver combat-ready 
forces to deter aggression and keep the seas free and open. Maintaining 
our ability to deploy battle-ready ships, submarines, and squadrons 
around the Western Pacific ensures the credibility of our commitments 
to our allies and partners in the region.
    General Berger. Senator, I stand with my fellow Service Chiefs, the 
Deputy Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary in affirming our 
commitments under the Taiwan Relations Act which includes maintaining 
our capacity to resist all forms of coercion that would jeopardize the 
security of the people of Taiwan.
    As outlined in the Tri-Service Maritime Strategy, our capacity to 
deter military aggression by China against Taiwan, alongside the 
capabilities of our allies and partners, includes:

      Operating forward deters coercive behavior and 
conventional aggression. We cannot contest malign activities without 
being present. Our force generation models must ensure we have 
sufficient combat-credible naval forces available to deter aggression, 
preempt a fait accompli, and win in conflict, all backed up by rapid 
surge capability and capacity.

      Contested seas require a renewed emphasis on sea control. 
Denying our adversaries' use of the seas thwarts their direct wartime 
objectives and disrupts their efforts to threaten our allies and the 
American homeland from the maritime domain. We must increase our 
emphasis on controlling the seas in conflict to provide joint and 
allied forces with the freedom of maneuver to attack adversary forces 
and impose costs globally.

      Maintaining advantage at sea requires modernization. In 
persistently surveilled, contested environments, agile naval forces 
offer dynamic and flexible options from which to project combat power. 
We must maintain our advantage at sea with new platforms, new thinking, 
and new technologies that enhance distributed naval operations while 
developing our people and culture to meet the challenges of a complex 
security environment.

    Given the geography of the Indo-Pacific and China's rapidly 
advancing long-range precision fires capabilities, the Navy and the 
joint force will need a stand-in force that can operate persistently 
within these weapons engagement zones and provide `deterrence by 
detection'. The Marine Corps will be that force.
    Our Corps' Force Design 2030 transformation focuses on how the 
Marine Corps maintains its status as the Nation's premier expeditionary 
force in readiness while purposely building stand-in forces capable of 
assurance and deterrence in the Pacific and other areas. We will be a 
stand-in force within the adversary's weapons engagement zone that is 
light, mobile, widely distributed, and that operates from diverse 
maritime platforms. By delivering mission-critical capabilities from 
expeditionary advanced bases, Marines will provide more vectors of 
attack to deter and ultimately defeat enemy aggression. Not only will 
the Marines possess formidable organic fires capable of denying key 
maritime terrain because of our forward presence, but we will also be a 
linchpin in the kill chain for naval and joint fires by performing 
reconnaissance and counter reconnaissance.
    For more than a decade, the Marine Corps has been planning and 
executing actions for a military build-out across the Pacific Region 
via the Defense Policy Review Initiative (DPRI) to sustain warfighting 
capabilities and to achieve force posture realignments, including 
necessary training range development, the identification of unit and 
installation facility requirements, programming and budgeting, and 
supporting establishment requirements necessary to set the theater for 
an increasingly competitive environment. Continued congressional 
funding of Marine Corps Force Design 2030 and DPRI initiatives is vital 
to creating the military capabilities, geographic positioning, and 
critical infrastructure necessary to prevent a fait accompli in the 
Indo-Pacific.
                       long-range precision fires
    71. Senator Hawley. General Berger, the Marine Corps has included 
Naval Strike Missiles and Tactical Tomahawks at the top of its Unfunded 
Priorities List. How will these systems and their enablers help us deny 
a Chinese fait accompli against Taiwan, and why is it so important that 
we field them as quickly as possible?
    General Berger. When forward deployed inside the adversary's 
weapons engagement zone, these weapon systems will provide the Marine 
Corps, Integrated Naval Force, and Joint Force with a Stand-In Force 
capable of conducting sea denial, thus affecting an adversary's plan. 
Denying a specific area can present a forward edge behind which the 
U.S. fleet can maneuver, or prevent an adversary from using key straits 
or chokepoints, such as the Taiwan Strait. Area denial can also channel 
an adversary into areas in which U.S. Forces enjoy a relative 
advantage.
    Ground-based launchers add a new type of threat against a peer 
adversary, stress different surveillance and offensive systems, are 
hard to detect and track in a cluttered ground environment, and add a 
significant level of persistence and depth to existing anti-ship 
capabilities. The range, persistence, survivability and lethality of 
these weapon systems will deny the adversary key maritime maneuver 
space, and limit their deployment options and avenues of approach for 
amphibious forces. The Naval Strike Missile-equipped medium-range 
missile battery is a critical element of the Marine Littoral Regiment 
(MLR). As such, the first battery will be fielded to support the 3d MLR 
beginning in fiscal year 2023. The first Tomahawk Missile-capable long-
range missile battery is on schedule to begin fielding in 2024.
                           fleet architecture
    72. Senator Hawley. The Navy is required by law to maintain not 
less than 11 aircraft carriers. It's not clear, though, that money 
spent on 11 carriers is money best spent. It seems just as likely, for 
instance, that we should use that money to grow our undersea forces or 
invest in other capabilities that are optimized for blunting a Chinese 
offensive in the initial period of war.
    Admiral Gilday, how do you assess the opportunity costs associated 
with maintaining an 11-carrier fleet as opposed to a 10- or 8-carrier 
fleet, if reducing the number of carriers would allow you to invest 
more in these other capabilities?
    Admiral Gilday. The U.S. Navy Carrier Strike Groups (CSG) with 
their associated Surface Combatants, Large-deck, Nuclear-powered 
Aircraft Carriers (CVN) and Carrier Air Wings (CVW) represent the 
eleven most survivable and lethal airfields in the world. The CSG 
continues to be the preeminent power projection force with its ability 
to produce long range kinetic and non-kinetic effects from the sea 
without the need for foreign basing rights. The current and future CSG 
constitutes a robust mix of sustainability, survivability and lethality 
with massed firepower and influence in a time of great power 
competition. The CSG is a key component to Distributed Maritime 
Operations (DMO) and offers Combatant Commanders rapid and decisive 
response options across the entire spectrum of military operations in 
an increasingly complex global landscape.
    The CVN enables the CSG to operate without replenishment for weeks 
at a time, due to its Nuclear power plant, aviation fuel capacity, 
weapons storage, and organic repair capabilities. Coupled with the 
CVN's maneuverability, the CSG can operate undetected while creating 
significant uncertainty, greatly complicating adversary targeting. The 
CSG's layered defenses starting with the offensive fire power from the 
mix of fifth and fourth generation aircraft from the CVW integrated 
with the Destroyer and Cruiser escorts allows the CSG to survive and 
operate inside threat ASCM ranges.
    With 11 CVNs we are able to employ CSGs, the Department of 
Defense's most visible asset for power projection and deterrence, to 
meet Global Force Management Allocation Plan (GFMAP) directed presence. 
CSG presence has a direct effect on the decisions of malign actors in 
any theater and is our most viable military option in the great power 
competition. Any reduction in the number of CVNs, and associated CSGs, 
will have a commensurate decrement in our ability to project power 
around the globe, with the loss of associated deterrent value. The 
airpower resident within a CSG facilitates numerous naval missions; 
reducing the number of CVNs would have a corresponding negative impact 
on those alternate missions as well.
                        global force management
    73. Senator Hawley. Admiral Gilday, there has been a substantial 
increase in Requests for Forces from the Combatant Commanders in recent 
years. How has this increase impacted the Navy's ability to improve 
readiness and invest in the modernization that we so badly need to keep 
pace with China?
    Admiral Gilday. Combatant Commander Requests for Forces continue to 
outpace Navy's ability to meet Secretary of Defense-approved presence 
requirements given our current force structure. For example, four 
recent Carrier Strike Group deployments were extended to support U.S. 
Central Command, resulting in additional incremental costs of over $200 
million. While the inherent flexibility built into the Optimized Fleet 
Response Plan readiness production construct has enabled us to meet 
this increased demand, continued deployment extensions will have 
significant, longer-term costs and readiness impacts. Unplanned costs 
require reprioritization of readiness resources (i.e. personnel, spare 
parts, and ordnance) and modernization funds, typically resulting in 
reductions to non-deployed flying hours and deferred parts and 
maintenance. This degrades the readiness of our next-to-deploy forces. 
Unplanned schedule changes often require ship maintenance 
availabilities to be deferred or cancelled, degrading material 
condition and impacting future availability planning and on time 
performance. Ensuring that platforms complete required maintenance and 
modernization availabilities on time is essential for the long term 
health of the force and generating future readiness. Additionally, 
unplanned schedule changes, including deployment extensions, negatively 
impact the quality of life for our Sailors and their families, which 
may result in reduced retention.

 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND 
                    THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, JUNE 24, 2021

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

 THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION 
                  ON ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:00 a.m., in 
Room SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed, 
Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Gillibrand, 
Kaine, King, Warren, Manchin, Rosen, Kelly, Inhofe, Wicker, 
Fischer, Rounds, Ernst, Tillis, Scott, Blackburn, Hawley, and 
Tuberville.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. I would like to call the hearing to order.
    The Committee meets today to receive testimony on the 
Department of Energy's atomic energy defense programs in review 
of the fiscal year 2022 President's defense budget request. I 
would like to welcome our witnesses, Secretary of Energy 
Jennifer Granholm and Acting Administrator of the National 
Nuclear Security Administration, Dr. Charles Verdon. Thank you 
for joining us. I also want to thank the workforce for their 
service to the Nation.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget request for the defense 
functions of the Department of Energy is $27.9 billion. This 
figure accounts for about 60 percent of the Department of 
Energy's overall $46.2 billion request. Having the Secretary of 
Energy appear before us underscores the importance that this 
Committee places on oversight of the Department of Defense 
activities, which span from maintaining our nuclear stockpile 
to cleaning up former Cold War defense production sites in 
order to meet binding commitments between the Federal 
Government and the communities and states they reside in.
    Within this $27.9 billion defense proposal, the National 
Nuclear Security Administration, or NNSA, is requesting $19.74 
billion, or a 0.5 percent increase over last year's level of 
$19.73 billion. While the fiscal year 2022 budget is flat, I 
would note that the amount for environmental cleanup increased 
by 6.4 percent to a total of $6.8 billion.
    Madam Secretary, given this flat NNSA budget there will be 
tradeoffs within the remaining budget to meet ongoing DOD 
requirements. I would like to know what these offsets are and 
what impacts they will have. Our analysis shows that 
maintenance of long-term engineering and science programs 
decreased 4.4 percent. Funds for infrastructure and operations, 
particularly safety, decreased by 12.3 percent. There is a view 
that there are carryover monies in infrastructure that can be 
spent in these areas, but this Committee has too often found 
that using carryover funding simply pushes today's important 
infrastructure problems to subsequent years, where they 
inevitably grow in magnitude.
    With respect to DOD requirements, I would appreciate an 
update on how the NNSA is working with the Nuclear Weapons 
Council. The Committee spent considerable time last year 
ensuring the relationship between the Department of Energy, the 
NNSA, and the Nuclear Weapons Council was on the right footing. 
I will want to know your views on this matter, as it is an 
important issue.
    The NNSA has also experienced its highest workload since 
the 1980s, as it manages five major warhead programs while 
rebuilding nuclear infrastructure that is original to the 
Manhattan Project of 70 years ago, and I am interested in how 
NNSA is managing this workload and the status of modernization 
of the facilities.
    I would also ask that our witnesses share how the NNSA is 
meeting the requirement for plutonium pit production. This 
administration has endorsed a two-site solution for producing 
pits at Los Alamos and rebuilding the abandoned mixed oxide 
facility at the Savannah River site. I would like to know what 
issues you see in the coming year for both sites with respect 
to cost and meeting production requirements.
    Finally, Madam Secretary, I hope you will update us on your 
efforts to continue cleaning up former Defense production 
sites, particularly at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. As you 
are aware, the Hanford site has 55 million gallons of 
radioactive waste stored in 177 underground tanks, some of 
which are leaking. Although your Department is starting 
operations to remove the first 40 percent of low-activity 
radioactive waste from these tanks, which accounts for 90 
percent of the waste, at present there is no plan to remove the 
high-activity radioactive waste in the tanks. I would ask you 
share how you are working with the State of Washington on a 
plan to remove this highly radioactive waste.
    Again, I want to thank our witnesses for appearing today 
and for their distinguished service to the Nation in so many 
different ways.
    Now let me recognize the ranking member, Senator Inhofe, 
please.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE

    Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Over the past few 
years one of the Committee's top priorities has been ensuring 
that we rebuild our U.S. nuclear deterrent, the cornerstone of 
our national security. We have talked together, and I think we 
are all in agreement on that.
    I think Secretary Austin said it well when he told us, 
quote, ``The U.S. nuclear weapons have been extended far beyond 
their original services lives, and the tipping point where we 
must simultaneously overhaul these facilities is now here. It 
is actually beyond here.
    If we are serious about meeting that growing and 
underappreciated threat posed by China and Russia, we need to 
be honest about the resources needed to do so, and repair these 
resources, which we will talk about in a minute.
    Unfortunately, the administration's fiscal year 2022 DOD 
budget cuts spending when we need real growth. We simply cannot 
compete if our budgets do not support our strategy. Strategy by 
starvation is a recipe for disaster.
    We have that same problem with this year's NNSA budget. For 
the first time since 2013--this is significant--for the first 
time since 2013, the NNSA request has shrunk from the previous 
year, mostly because of a $500 million cut to NNSA deferred 
maintenance efforts. Deferred maintenance is kind of a less-
than-courageous way of doing something without being caught. I 
think we all understand that.
    If this were the result of real progress in modernizing our 
nuclear weapons stockpile, that would be one thing. But that is 
not the case here. We are still trying to recover from decades 
of underinvestment. We must rebuild our aging nuclear forces.
    I cannot understand why the administration is cutting NNSA 
funding while pushing for trillions of dollars in spending in 
so many other areas, less critical areas, such as so-called 
``green energy'' subsidies. Almost a third of NNSA's facilities 
date back to World War II, and we have buildings where chunks 
of the concrete fall from the ceiling on workers below. We need 
to do better for the people who care for our nuclear 
enterprise.
    By contrast, our adversaries clearly prioritize their 
nuclear programs. They understand their value. Our lack of 
focus on nuclear weapons puts us in danger of falling even 
farther behind, and puts our Nation at risk, and we cannot 
allow this to happen.
    So I look forward to your testimony of these two great 
witnesses. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. Madam 
Secretary, you are recognized, please.

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE JENNIFER M. GRANHOLM, SECRETARY OF 
                             ENERGY

    Secretary Granholm. Thank you so much, Chairman Reed and 
Ranking Member Inhofe and Members of the Committee. It is a 
privilege to be before you on behalf of the Department of 
Energy as the Nation's 16th Energy Secretary. I am unspeakably 
honored to be entrusted with the responsibility of enhancing 
America's security through nuclear defense, nonproliferation, 
and environmental efforts, in addition to leading the 
Department's efforts to support the breakthrough scientific 
discoveries at our 17 National Labs and to deploy those 
breakthroughs at scale to create jobs for the American people.
    As we endeavor to build America's clean energy future we 
know the Department's nuclear security mission is essential to 
ensuring that future is safe and secure. It is a core focus of 
our daily work, and I recognize that the Senate Armed Services 
Committee has always demonstrated bipartisan commitment to this 
mission. I applaud your ability to consistently work together 
on such serious matters and your continued support for the 
Department's efforts around deterrence and on proliferation and 
environmental management, which, of course, together make up 
nearly three-quarters of the Department of Energy's budget.
    We know full well that as long as nuclear weapons exist the 
United States must maintain the safety, security, and 
effectiveness of our Nation's nuclear stockpile. We have to 
make sure that the U.S. Navy has the nuclear propulsion that 
they need to carry out their important operations, and we must 
also advance nuclear nonproliferation intentionally, and we 
have to do it internationally. We have to address the threat of 
nuclear terrorism, we have to mitigate the environmental harm 
from our nuclear program, and to those ends, I am pleased to 
report that since I have taken office the Department and the 
NNSA have reinforced a strong working relationship, 
prioritizing collaboration and communication, while respecting 
NNSA's semi-autonomous status.
    Here I do want to thank our colleagues at the NNSA, and in 
particular Acting Under Secretary Dr. Charlie Verdon, who is 
here and whose incredible vast experience and expertise has 
been invaluable to our nuclear security mission. I want to 
thank this Committee for having advanced Dr. Jill Hruby and 
Frank Rose to the next level, and hopefully the Senate can 
follow your lead, given the importance of this mission.
    Working together with NNSA and DOE, we have reached several 
notable milestones over the last 5 months, and that includes 
our support for diplomatic efforts to successfully extend the 
New START nuclear arms control treaty with Russia, and our 
progress around the Los Alamos plutonium pit production 
project, which is now underway, and which will produce 30 war-
reserved plutonium pits per year to meet our national security 
needs. We have also moved forward on a series of upgrades that 
are essential to the Nation's nuclear deterrent, and our work 
is further facilitated by our exceptional partnership with the 
Department of Defense. You will be glad to know, I hope, that 
DOE and NNSA and DOD are engaging in high-level coordination, 
and we are in lockstep around our mutual goal of ensuring that 
the U.S. nuclear deterrent is fully funded and properly 
managed.
    I will note also that we are fully aligned with the 
Department of Defense regarding the budget for this next fiscal 
year, which meets DOD requirements. I am fully committed to 
working in close cooperation and coordination with the Defense 
Department on the future budget requirements.
    The budget proposal before you would allow us to make 
substantial progress in five areas. One, it would sustain 
funding for NNSA in support of the agency's longstanding 
nuclear modernization efforts. Second, it would support our 
weapons account activities, and that means allowing us to keep 
the Nation's stockpile and infrastructure in line with DOD 
requirements. Third, it will enhance our Office of Defense 
Nuclear Nonproliferation, so that we can ramp up our work to 
prevent state and nonstate actors from achieving their 
ambitions around nuclear weapons. Fourth, it provides the 
resources needed to support the U.S. Navy with militarily 
effective nuclear propulsion plants, and ensure they are safe 
and reliable and long-lived operation. Fifth, importantly, it 
would allow our Office of Environmental Management to advance 
our commitments to the communities that have supported national 
defense programs and nuclear research and facilitating 
continued progress along all 16 of our cleanup sites.
    Before I close I do want to acknowledge that we know, 
following the attacks on the grid and on the pipeline, with 
SolarWinds and the Colonial Pipeline, that we face this 
national security imperative to harden our critical 
infrastructure against these evolving cyber threats as well.
    So I am humbled by the opportunity to lead the Department 
of Energy in this moment, and I am happy to discuss our 
priorities and our goals with this Committee, and answer any 
questions that you may have.
    [The joint prepared statement of Secretary Granholm and Dr. 
Verdon follows:]

 Joint Prepared Statement by Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm and 
       Acting Under Secretary for Nuclear Security Charles Verdon
    It is a privilege to serve as the 16th Secretary of Energy and have 
the responsibility of leading the Department in enhancing America's 
nuclear security through defense, nonproliferation, and environmental 
efforts. As long as nuclear weapons exist, the United States must 
maintain the safety, security, and effectiveness of the nuclear weapons 
stockpile through the application of unparalleled science, technology, 
engineering, and manufacturing. The Department also works to prevent 
nuclear weapon proliferation and reduce the threat of nuclear and 
radiological terrorism by leveraging the unique expertise of our 
federal and nuclear security enterprise workforce. In addition, the 
Department provides the U.S. Navy with militarily effective nuclear 
propulsion plants and ensures their safe, reliable, and long-lived 
operation. Finally, we must complete the safe cleanup of the 
environmental legacy brought about from decades of nuclear weapons 
development and government-sponsored nuclear energy research. The 
Department stands ready to support the President in meeting all these 
missions. To meet these challenges, DOE must uphold our values, 
revitalize our nuclear security enterprise, and ensure the 
environmentally sound and safe cleanup of legacy nuclear sites, 
particularly in disadvantaged communities. I am committed to investing 
in the kinds of science and technology that will help us today, 
tomorrow, and well into the future so the United States will always 
have a qualitative edge over its adversaries. I am proud to lead the 
more than 100,000 dedicated federal and DOE contractor employees 
working every day to find solutions to our most pressing national 
security, scientific, energy, cybersecurity, and climate change 
challenges.
    As I noted in my confirmation hearing, I am focused on three 
missions as the Secretary of Energy--first, the security of the United 
States through the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) 
nuclear stockpile, nuclear nonproliferation, and naval nuclear 
propulsion missions, and the Environmental Management (EM) program's 
clean-up of our Cold War legacy sites. Second, supporting the amazing 
scientific work being done at the DOE's 17 National Labs and other 
facilities across the country, including on climate change and 
emissions reductions. Third, taking that research to scale and 
deploying it to create jobs for Americans. As Secretary, I am 
responsible for what happens at NNSA, and that includes making sure 
NNSA is properly resourced to execute its mission. Since I have been in 
the position, the Department and NNSA have reinforced a strong and 
collaborative working relationship that protects NNSA's semi-autonomous 
status while also ensuring that we are able to best leverage the 
different skills sets and expertise across the Department.
                 nnsa fiscal year 2022 budget overview
    DOE's NNSA is committed to supporting the President's Interim 
National Security Strategic Guidance. The President's Fiscal Year 2022 
Budget Request reflects the U.S. commitment to maintain a safe, secure, 
and effective nuclear weapons stockpile, reduce global nuclear threats, 
and provide the U.S. Navy's submarines and aircraft carriers with 
militarily effective nuclear propulsion. NNSA is on track to modernize 
the nuclear stockpile with our life extension and alteration programs; 
make substantial progress on maintaining, repairing, and recapitalizing 
NNSA's deteriorating infrastructure; provide policy and technical 
leadership to address all aspects of the nuclear threat reduction 
mission; and deliver nuclear propulsion that meets the U.S. Navy's 
operational requirements.
    The President's Fiscal Year 2022 Budget Request of $19.7 billion 
for NNSA, an increase of $10.8 million, or 0.1 percent over the fiscal 
year 2021 enacted level. \1\ This request would enable NNSA to execute 
its long-standing nuclear modernization efforts, begun under the Obama-
Biden Administration, while this Administration undertakes its formal 
review of efforts to modernize our nuclear deterrent, to include 
Department of Defense delivery platforms, the nuclear weapons required 
for those platforms, and the NNSA infrastructure needed to produce and 
maintain those weapons. This will preserve space for future policy 
decisions related to nuclear modernization, and nuclear 
nonproliferation and counterterrorism, as the Administration adjusts to 
the changing international threats facing America. Russia, China, and 
our adversaries should make no mistake--America will do whatever is 
necessary to deter our enemies and provide security in our strategic 
relationships with allies and partners.
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    \1\ The fiscal year 2021 Enacted level does not include the 
mandated transfer of $91 million from Naval Reactors to Nuclear Energy 
for the operation of the Advanced Test Reactor.
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    The U.S. nuclear weapons stockpile is currently safe, secure, and 
militarily effective. However, the legacy stockpile systems are aging, 
and NNSA's production infrastructure has atrophied considerably. 
America must invest in the weapons and infrastructure modernization 
programs to provide the capabilities needed to ensure the deterrent's 
viability into the future. Future American political leaders will not 
have the weapons and infrastructure in place to support the nuclear 
arsenal unless we reestablish that capability now.
    As we advance the important work of modernizing our Nation's 
nuclear deterrent and the infrastructure that supports that mission, it 
is also important that the Department continues to collaborate with the 
Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board (DNFSB) as it has successfully 
done for decades. I am happy to report that DOE and DNFSB are 
developing a bilateral memorandum of understanding (MOU) to serve as a 
foundation for mutual communication, transparency, and information 
sharing. The completion of this MOU, which we expect to occur this 
year, will be an important tool for our continued collaboration.
                           weapons activities
    The fiscal year 2022 budget request for the Department's Weapons 
Activities account is $15.5 billion, an increase of $139.3 million, or 
0.9 percent, over fiscal year 2021 enacted levels. This budget request 
supports the Administration's goals to modernize the Nation's nuclear 
weapons stockpile and infrastructure to meet DOD deterrent 
requirements. Included in this request is funding for activities of 
NNSA's Office of Defense Programs which, in coordination with the 
Department of Defense (DOD), has maintained the effectiveness of the 
nuclear deterrent for almost 30 years without the need for additional 
nuclear explosive testing. In fiscal year 2021, the science-based 
Stockpile Stewardship Program allowed the Secretaries of Energy and 
Defense to certify to the President for the 25th consecutive year the 
nuclear weapons stockpile remains safe, secure, and militarily 
effective. This remarkable scientific achievement is made possible 
through the expertise of NNSA's world-class scientists, engineers, and 
technicians, and prior investments made in the necessary infrastructure 
and tools.
                          stockpile management
    For Stockpile Management, the fiscal year 2022 budget request is 
$4.6 billion, an increase of $342.4 million, or 8.0 percent, over the 
fiscal year 2021 enacted level.
    NNSA is requesting $771.7 million in fiscal year 2022 for the B61-
12 Life Extension Program (LEP), which consolidates four variants of 
the B61 gravity bomb and improves the safety and security of a weapon 
that entered service in 1966. The B61-12 LEP is currently in Phase 6.5 
and has achieved first production on most of its components and will 
achieve the system's first production unit (FPU) in the first quarter 
of fiscal year 2022.
    NNSA is requesting $207.2 million in fiscal year 2022 for the W88 
Alteration (Alt) 370, which supports the sea-based leg of the nuclear 
triad. The W88 Alt 370 is currently in Phase 6.5 and currently on track 
with a system FPU date in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2021. 
Nearly all major components have completed their respective FPUs.
    NNSA is requesting $1.1 billion in fiscal year 2022 for the W80-4 
LEP, which is currently in Phase 6.3, Development Engineering. The W80-
4 LEP supports the U.S. Air Force Long Range Standoff (LRSO) program. 
Fiscal year 2022 will see a planned ramp-up of production development 
and design activities as the program transitions to Phase 6.4, 
Production Engineering.
    NNSA is requesting $691.0 million in fiscal year 2022 for the W87-1 
Modification Program, which will replace the aging W78-0 warhead. NNSA 
has planned first production in fiscal year 2030 to support fielding on 
the Ground-Based Strategic Deterrent ballistic missile system in the 
Mk21A reentry vehicle. The program will deploy new technologies that 
improve safety, security, and manufacturability. Efforts in fiscal year 
2022 will focus on completion of the Weapon Design and Cost Report, an 
independent cost estimate, and entry into Phase 6.3.
    The W93/Mk7 is a new program of record authorized by Congress in 
fiscal year 2021 to meet DOD requirements. Starting the W93 program in 
fiscal year 2021 ensured the development of the warhead coordinated 
with the Navy's Mk7 aeroshell program. The W93 will incorporate modern 
technologies to improve safety, security, and flexibility to address 
future threats, and will be designed for ease of manufacturing, 
maintenance, and certification. All the key nuclear components will be 
based on previously tested nuclear designs and will not require 
underground nuclear explosive testing to certify. NNSA is requesting 
$72.0 million in fiscal year 2022 for the program, an increase of $19.0 
million, or 35.8 percent above the fiscal year 2021 enacted level. 
Fiscal year 2022 will focus on completion of Phase 1 activities and 
entry into Phase 2, Feasibility Study and Design Options.
                        production modernization
    The Production Modernization program focuses on the production 
capabilities of nuclear weapons components critical to weapon 
performance, including primaries, secondaries, radiation cases, and 
non-nuclear components. For Production Modernization, the fiscal year 
2022 budget request is $2.9 billion, an increase of $363.1 million, or 
14.3 percent over the fiscal year 2021 enacted level. Included in this 
request is funding for activities that support the Primary Capability 
Modernization, Secondary Capability Modernization, and Non-Nuclear 
Component Modernization programs.
    Primary Capability Modernization includes the plutonium program and 
the high explosives and energetics programs. NNSA urgently needs to 
recapitalize our plutonium pit production fabrication capabilities to 
support our weapons modernization programs. High explosive and 
energetic materials are required for every weapon system in the 
stockpile and are also under increasing demand.
    NNSA's priority infrastructure need is re-establishing a modestly 
sized production capacity for plutonium pits. The fiscal year 2022 
budget request of $1.7 billion includes funding for plutonium 
operations and the plutonium pit production projects at Los Alamos 
National Laboratory (LANL) and Savannah River Site (SRS). At LANL, the 
Los Alamos Plutonium Pit Production Project advanced in the Critical 
Decision (CD) process from Critical Decision (CD)-0 to CD-1 
(Alternative Selection and Cost Range), in April 2021. At Savannah 
River, the Department is working toward CD-1 by this summer. This two-
site approach is necessary to re-establish the Nation's ability to 
produce plutonium pits in support of defense requirements, and to 
provide needed resilience against unplanned outages.
    Secondary Capability Modernization includes our Uranium, Depleted 
Uranium, Lithium, Tritium, and Domestic Uranium Enrichment programs. 
The fiscal year 2022 budget request of $488.1 million for Secondary 
Capability Modernization is a $31.1 million, or 6.8 percent, increase 
over the fiscal year 2021 enacted budget. All these programs support 
the nuclear stockpile and face infrastructure and lapsed capability 
concerns. Major construction investments to address these 
infrastructure concerns are funded within the Infrastructure and 
Operations program. For example, NNSA is continuing its progress on the 
Uranium Processing Facility (UPF), which, when completed, will be one 
of the largest investments in Tennessee and one of the largest 
construction projects across the nuclear security enterprise since the 
Manhattan Project. UPF construction will support 2,500 good-paying jobs 
in 2022 and 1,100 jobs in 2023. NNSA is also working with its partners 
to increase production of tritium and is in the early phases of 
designing the Tritium Finishing Facility (TFF), to replace a 1950s-era 
facility. The United States no longer maintains a lithium purification 
capability and relies on material recycling as its main source, which 
will be exhausted soon. These operations currently take place in a 
World War II-era building well beyond its design life, putting both 
operators and processing at risk. NNSA plans to modernize lithium 
purification and processing operations in a new Lithium Processing 
Facility (LPF) built to modern standards.
    Non-Nuclear Capability Modernization includes programs to modernize 
production of non-nuclear components for multiple weapon systems. Non-
nuclear components are a significant portion of the costs for the 
warhead modernization programs due to the number of parts, their 
complexity, and the testing required to ensure they will continue to 
function over their required 20-to-30-year lifetimes.
    This ongoing modernization of NNSA's production infrastructure is 
advancing at a critical time. As the Commander of U.S. Strategic 
Command, Admiral Charles Richard, has testified, ``We simply cannot 
continue to indefinitely life extend Cold War leftover systems...and 
successfully carryout our national strategy. A particular concern is 
the aging nuclear weapons stockpile and supporting infrastructure and 
we can reach a point where no amount of money will adequately mitigate 
the operational risks the Nation will face due to infrastructure and 
human talent capability losses.'' Put another way: time is money. 
Continued recapitalization is imperative, otherwise there will be a 
point at which no amount of money will be able to mitigate the 
operational risks and losses to infrastructure capabilities that 
accrued over time.
            stockpile research, technology, and engineering
    The fiscal year 2022 budget request for Stockpile Research, 
Technology, and Engineering (SRT&E) is $2.7 billion, a decrease of 
$123.1 million, or 4.4 percent below the fiscal year 2021 enacted 
levels. The decrease reflects a rebalancing of efforts within NNSA to 
focus on near-term priorities to support the stockpile. SRT&E will 
continue to focus on the implementation of the Enhanced Capabilities 
for Subcritical Experiments (ECSE) and various activities in 
preparation to accept and operate NNSA's first Exascale high 
performance computing system in 2023. Both capabilities provide data in 
support of the W80-4 LEP requirements and the W87-1 modification. SRT&E 
provides the data and tools that underpin science-based stockpile 
decisions, including the knowledge and expertise needed to maintain 
confidence in the nuclear stockpile without the need for additional 
underground nuclear explosive testing.
    ECSE will produce experimental data to enable the assessment of the 
current stockpile and the certification of the future stockpile without 
the need to return to explosive nuclear testing. This capability is 
needed to help underpin confidence in the W80-4 LEP, W87-1 
Modification, and future warhead acquisition programs. NNSA is 
requesting $215.6 million in fiscal year 2022 for the program, the same 
as the fiscal year 2021 enacted level.
    The Exascale Computing Initiative (ECI) will provide NNSA with 
next-generation simulation capabilities to support weapons design, 
warhead assessment and certification, and continued development of the 
science needed to support the nuclear stockpile over the long-term. 
NNSA remains on track to accept and operate NNSA's first Exascale high 
performance computing system for program use in 2023.
    The Inertial Confinement Fusion (ICF) program provides high energy 
density (HED) science capabilities and expertise to provide the data 
needed to advance warhead performance and production science, and to 
inform design choices for warhead acquisition programs. In addition, 
activities like the pursuit of ignition provide not only important 
scientific understanding, but a unique training environment for the 
workforce. NNSA is requesting $529.0 million in fiscal year 2022 for 
the program, a decrease of $46.0 million or 8.0 percent, from the 
fiscal year 2021 enacted level. The decrease reflects a decision to 
rebalance priorities within the SRT&E portfolio. These programs, along 
with our advanced computing and simulation, technology maturation, 
academic programs, and other SRT&E missions are essential to 
maintaining our confidence in the stockpile.
    Every year, NNSA provides grants and cooperative agreements with 
top universities across the country. Programs such as the Stewardship 
Science Academic Alliances Program and the Minority Serving Institution 
Partnership Program (MSIPP) facilitate in recruiting the next 
generation of scientists and engineers for our nuclear security 
enterprise, and conducting cutting-edge science in national security 
and nonproliferation. In support of the President's effort to eliminate 
inequities in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM), 
MSIPP's mission is to create and foster a sustainable STEM-pipeline 
that prepares a diverse workforce of world class talent through 
strategic partnerships between Historically Black Colleges and 
Universities, Tribal Colleges and Universities, and other Minority 
Serving Institutions and the nuclear security enterprise.
                     infrastructure and operations
    Infrastructure is the foundation that supports all NNSA missions. 
Modern, efficient, sustainable, and resilient infrastructure is needed 
for the nuclear deterrent, nonproliferation, counterterrorism, 
emergency response, leading-edge research, and solving the climate 
crisis. The deterioration of facilities built during the Manhattan 
Project and Cold War eras threatens NNSA's ability to execute its 
mission. Today, the average age of NNSA's facilities is 47 years old 
and of the agency's $116 billion worth of real property infrastructure, 
nearly 60 percent is beyond its design life and half of all facilities 
are in poor condition. NNSA's infrastructure includes, among other 
things, office buildings, light laboratories, emergency operations 
centers, fire houses, roads, utilities, and the specialized equipment 
used to support our missions.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget request for Infrastructure and 
Operations is $3.6 billion, a decrease of $497 million, or 12.2 percent 
below the fiscal year 2021 enacted level. The decrease largely results 
from the completion of construction projects in fiscal year 2021, the 
prioritization of funding for programmatic plutonium construction 
funded within Production Modernization, the beginning of the ramp down 
of funding for the Uranium Processing Facility project, and the use of 
carryover balances to fund work within the Chemistry and Metallurgy 
Research Replacement project.
    NNSA infrastructure must be resilient and provide the capabilities 
and capacities for executing its vital national security missions. This 
requires an array of complementary strategies, including minor and 
major construction projects, short-term leasing, purchases, and timely 
disposition of excess facilities. In partnership with the EM program, 
DOE is strategically demolishing high-risk excess facilities such as 
the former Biology Complex at Y-12. Its removal enhances safety and 
clears land for NNSA missions at the site. We must modernize and 
upgrade antiquated infrastructure and address safety and programmatic 
risks through strategic, risk-informed investments that directly 
support our nuclear weapons and nonproliferation programs.
    NNSA is continuing its progress on the Uranium Processing Facility 
(UPF), which, when completed, will be one of the largest investments in 
Tennessee and one of the largest construction projects across the 
nuclear security enterprise since the Manhattan Project. UPF 
construction will support 2,500 good-paying jobs in 2022 and 1,100 jobs 
in 2023. NNSA is also in the early phases of designing the Tritium 
Finishing Facility (TFF). The United States no longer maintains a 
lithium purification capability and relies on material recycling as its 
main source. The current Program of Record provides sufficient lithium 
supply through 2035. These operations currently take place in a World 
War II-era building well beyond its design life, putting both operators 
and processing at risk. NNSA plans to modernize lithium purification 
and processing operations in a new Lithium Processing Facility (LPF) 
built to modern standards.
    Also, key are the personnel needed to safely and securely operate 
and maintain NNSA facilities. As NNSA mission scope increases, so does 
the demand for personnel to support new facilities and capabilities 
being brought on-line. Many of these sites across the complex will 
require additional staff to support moving to 24/7 operations. These 
individuals are essential to minimizing unplanned outages and to 
supporting safe and secure operations, particularly in high hazard 
operations.
                    defense nuclear security efforts
    The Office of Defense Nuclear Security's (DNS) primary mission is 
protecting the facilities, people, and assets that are critical to 
achieving NNSA's important national security missions. DNS's fiscal 
year 2022 budget request is $847.6 million, an increase of $58.6 
million, or 7.4 percent, over the fiscal year 2021 enacted amount. NNSA 
is making key investments to recapitalize aging physical security 
infrastructure through the Security Infrastructure Revitalization 
Program. Growth across the nuclear security enterprise, including 
plutonium pit production efforts, has led to increased security 
requirements. To mitigate the threat from unmanned aircraft systems 
(UAS), DNS is installing counter UAS systems at Y-12, the Pantex Plant, 
and the Nevada National Security Site.
                    defense nuclear nonproliferation
    NNSA's Office of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation (DNN) is critical 
to implementing the President's call to ``lock down fissile and 
radiological materials around the world.'' The fiscal year 2022 budget 
request for the DNN account is $2.3 billion, an increase of $4.0 
million, or 0.2 percent, over the fiscal year 2021 enacted level. \2\ 
DNN works worldwide with our international partners to prevent state 
and non-state actors from developing nuclear weapons or acquiring 
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cancellation of $330 million of prior year balances from the Mixed 
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    nuclear or radiological materials, equipment, technology, and 
expertise. Around the globe, DNN has eliminated the need for weapons-
usable material at over 100 civilian sites and removed over 7,200 
kilograms of highly enriched uranium (HEU) and plutonium from almost 50 
countries, achieving a permanent reduction in these threats from these 
materials. DNN's unique capabilities are critical to America's national 
security and welfare: from promoting and supporting International 
Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) safeguards agreements internationally; to 
supporting diplomatic arms control efforts such as the successfully 
extended New START treaty with Russia; to partnering with United States 
industry to support non-HEU based production of the vital medical 
isotope molybdenum-99, which is used in 40,000 procedures every day in 
the United States.
                nuclear terrorism and incident response
    The fiscal year 2022 request for the Nuclear Counterterrorism and 
Incident Response (NCTIR) Program is $370.8 million, a decrease of $6.7 
million, or 1.8 percent below, the fiscal year 2021 enacted level. The 
fiscal year 2022 request is lower due to the transfer of management 
responsibility and authority for IT and Cyber services and solutions 
for the Emergency Communications Network from NCTIR to NNSA's Office 
for Information Management.
    NCTIR includes two subprograms: Emergency Operations (EO) and 
Counterterrorism and Counterproliferation (CTCP).
    EO provides the structure and processes the Department uses to 
prevent, prepare for, respond to, recover from, and mitigate all-
hazards emergencies that threaten life and property. In addition, EO 
provides the framework for building, assessing, and improving 
organizational resilience to ensure uninterrupted performance and 
delivery of the Department's Essential Functions under the Presidential 
Policy Directive 40, Executive Order 13961, the National Nuclear 
Security Act, and the National Response and Planning Frameworks.
    CTCP provides capabilities to counter and respond to nuclear 
incidents and accidents worldwide. The foundation of NNSA's diverse 
missions is an unparalleled command of nuclear science, which is 
harnessed to understand and contend with global nuclear threats. CTCP's 
expertise influences a wide range of policies to keep nuclear material 
beyond the reach of non-state actors, including security standards for 
the storage and transport of such material. The office shares knowledge 
of nuclear and radiological threats with federal, state, local, tribal 
governments, and international partners by conducting training, 
exercises, and information exchanges to strengthen emergency 
preparedness and response. CTCP also develops tools to impede the 
efforts of proliferant states to obtain nuclear capabilities.
    CTCP manages the Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST), a cadre of 
on-call technical specialists who are trained and equipped to respond 
to all manner of nuclear events. Notable NEST capabilities include 
mobile teams that can search for nuclear devices and technical 
personnel whose knowledge of nuclear weapons is used to characterize 
and defeat such threats. NEST features nuclear forensics capabilities 
to identify the origin of nuclear material outside of regulatory 
control or used in a threat device. These capabilities constitute an 
important element of the U.S. deterrence strategy, by allowing the 
United States to credibly threaten retaliation against any state that 
facilitates an act of nuclear terrorism.
                             naval reactors
    The Office of Naval Reactors remains at the forefront of 
technological developments in naval nuclear propulsion by advancing new 
technologies and improvements in naval reactor performance. This 
preeminence provides the U.S. Navy with a commanding edge in naval 
warfighting capabilities. Naval Reactors has given the United States 
unmatched reach with an unparalleled record of over 169 million miles 
safely steamed on nuclear power and over 7,300 reactor-years of 
operation.
    The fiscal year 2022 budget for Naval Reactors is $1.9 billion, an 
increase of $182.7 million, or 10.8 percent, over the fiscal year 2021 
enacted level. \3\ The budget request supports Naval Reactors' three 
major projects--the Columbia-class reactor plant development, the 
refueling overhaul of a research and training reactor in New York, and 
the construction of the Naval Spent Fuel Handling Facility in Idaho. 
Naval Reactors is committed to supporting the operational nuclear 
fleet, continuing research and development efforts for future 
generations of nuclear-powered warships, and making progress on both 
the recapitalization of laboratory facilities and the environmental 
remediation of legacy responsibilities.
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    \3\ The fiscal year 2021 Enacted level does not include the 
mandated transfer of $91 million from Naval Reactors to Nuclear Energy 
for the operation of the Advanced Test Reactor. The fiscal year 2022 
amount does not include the proposed cancellation of $6 million of 
prior year balances.
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        new era of progress for environmental management mission
    As important as the missions of today and tomorrow are, the Cold 
War left an indelible mark on America. It is the mission of the Office 
of Environmental Management (EM) is to address the legacy of nuclear 
weapons development and government-sponsored nuclear energy research 
that has played a significant role in domestic security and prosperity.
    As the largest environmental cleanup program in the world, EM plays 
a key role in the Department's overarching mission to protect the 
planet. The Department's fiscal year 2022 budget request of $7.6 
billion will help EM continue to make progress in fulfilling the 
government's responsibility to clean up the environment in communities 
that supported nuclear weapons programs and government-sponsored 
nuclear energy research.
    Building on past success, the EM program is entering a new era of 
cleanup accomplishments. The fiscal year 2022 request supports a ramp 
up in EM's ability to tackle tank waste--one of the Department's 
largest environmental challenges and financial liabilities. The request 
will also enable continued progress in infrastructure improvements at 
the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant and support an increased rate of waste 
shipments from across the EM program. In addition, EM will continue to 
advance facility demolition and risk reduction projects across the 
program.
    The fiscal year 2022 request includes $6.8 billion for defense 
environmental cleanup activities, which covers most major EM sites. The 
request of $1.5 billion for the Office of River Protection will enable 
EM to remain on track to initiate tank waste treatment at the Hanford 
site by the end of 2023 through the Direct Feed Low Activity Waste 
(DFLAW) approach. In fiscal year 2022, EM expects to achieve a 
significant milestone in the start of tank waste treatment through the 
initiation of operations at the Tank-Side Cesium Removal (TSCR) unit, 
which is necessary to prepare waste for DFLAW treatment. Also at 
Hanford, the request of $1.0 billion for the Richland Operations Office 
will support continued risk reduction activities at Hanford's Central 
Plateau and along the Columbia River corridor, including remediation 
activities at Building 324 and the transfer of cesium and strontium 
capsules to dry storage.
    At the Savannah River Site, the request of $1.7 billion will help 
EM accelerate tank waste treatment through operation of the Salt Waste 
Processing Facility and the Defense Waste Processing Facility. The 
request will also continue operations and maintain a high state of 
readiness for H Canyon, the only chemical separations facility 
remaining in operation in the United States. At the Idaho Cleanup 
Project, the request of $381 million will continue advancing the 
Integrated Waste Treatment Unit (IWTU) toward hot operations. This 
facility is necessary to address the last remaining tank waste at the 
Idaho National Laboratory. In addition, exhumation of buried waste and 
treatment of transuranic waste sludge will complete, allowing the site 
to proceed with closure of the Radioactive Waste Management Complex.
    The request also supports key modernization and infrastructure 
recapitalization priorities at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP). 
Specifically, the request of $437 million will help ensure WIPP is 
equipped to meet the needs of the national transuranic waste disposal 
mission by enabling transportation activities from multiple locations 
required for sustained operations of up to 14 shipments per week.
    EM's fiscal year 2022 budget also facilitates the Department's 
broader national security and scientific research missions. The request 
includes $436 million in defense environmental cleanup funding for Oak 
Ridge, which will enable EM to continue cleanup operations at the Oak 
Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) and Y-12 National Security Complex 
excess facilities. The request enables EM to advance progress on 
several near-term priorities at Oak Ridge including the disposition of 
the remaining uranium-233 inventory at ORNL, addressing transuranic 
debris and sludges, and continuing design of the On Site Waste Disposal 
Facility.
    At the Los Alamos National Laboratory, the request of $333.5 
million will support EM initiating deactivation and decommissioning 
(D&D) work at the Ion Beam Facility, along with remediation activities 
at the DP-Road site, groundwater treatment and transuranic waste 
shipments to the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant. The request also includes 
$35 million to support continued D&D efforts for excess facilities at 
the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.
    As the Department enters this new era of cleanup progress, EM is 
working to build a workforce for the future that promotes diversity and 
inclusion. That includes high-quality jobs in environmental cleanup 
where workers from all backgrounds can make a living and make a 
difference. The budget request includes a significant boost in funding 
to expand the Minority Serving Institutions partnership program to a 
new EM STEM Manufacturing and Cybersecurity Consortium. This program 
will be primarily focused on Historically Black Colleges and 
Universities and other Minority Serving Institutions with research 
specialties needed to advance the EM mission.
    EM's fiscal year 2022 request reflects a planning approach that 
will boost the Department's ability to complete its clean up mission. 
EM is prepared to put these resources to work to enhance environmental 
protections and remediate sites so they can be transitioned to future 
uses in local communities that helped the Nation win the Cold War and 
maintain peace for decades. As we do, the Department will work hand-in-
hand with workers, unions, Tribal Nations, local communities, and 
Congress to plan for this next era of cleanup.
                        enhancing cybersecurity
    As you all are aware, a ransomware attack happened on May 7th that 
led to the shutdown of the Colonial Pipeline Company's largest fuel 
pipeline on the East Coast. The White House asked the Department of 
Energy to coordinate a whole-of-government effort to ensure that the 
company had the resources necessary to resume operations as quickly and 
safely as possible, while moving fuel supplies to impacted areas by 
other means. This incident was a stark reminder of the imperative to 
harden the Nation's critical infrastructure against these serious and 
growing cyber threats.
    As the Sector Risk Management Agency for cybersecurity in the 
Energy Sector, the Office of Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and 
Emergency Response, or CESER, leads the Department's efforts to 
safeguard the Nation's critical energy infrastructure against growing 
and evolving cyber threats and attacks. CESER works closely with the 
Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), and public and 
private sector partners to strengthen the energy sector's risk 
management capabilities and enhance sector-wide situational awareness 
and threat analysis. The Office is advancing policies, technologies, 
and risk management tools that will increase the visibility of physical 
and cyber threats in the operational technology environment, mature the 
cybersecurity supply chain, and support exercises and partnerships with 
states and other organizations. Earlier this year, DOE and CISA 
announced a partnership with the electricity sector to develop the 100-
day Industrial Control Systems Cyber Initiative. The initiative will 
strengthen the security of electricity critical systems and increase 
the visibility of the systems that control the Nation's utility 
operations. Ultimately, the initiative will help pave the way for 
efforts to secure critical infrastructure in other sectors.
    In the current threat environment, the Department cannot afford to 
neglect its cybersecurity capabilities, which serve as frontline assets 
that protect the information, systems, and networks necessary to 
execute its mission. Information Technology and Cybersecurity enable 
every element of DOE/NNSA's missions. To meet future requirements, the 
Department must modernize its outdated and legacy technology.
    The Office of the Chief Information Officer leads the Department's 
efforts to modernize and improve cybersecurity defenses to protect 
federal systems and information at our national laboratories, power 
marketing administrations, plants, sites and headquarters. 
Additionally, we remain focused on strengthening our ability to respond 
and recover from cybersecurity incidents when they occur.
    The Department is targeting cybersecurity investments on lessons 
learned from recent cybersecurity attacks and implementing the 
Executive Order to Improve the Nation's Cybersecurity, including:
      Accelerating the movement to a zero-trust security model 
and secure cloud services;
      Securing the software supply chain; and
      Improving cybersecurity threat hunting and response in 
both information technology and operational technology.
    I can assure you that cybersecurity will remain a top priority for 
the Department, and these investments will posture DOE to defend 
against an ever-evolving landscape of cyber threats.
                               conclusion
    DOE is charged with the truly unique and awesome responsibilities 
of advancing national security through the application of science. 
NNSA's weapons activities, nonproliferation, and naval reactors 
programs are essential to promoting America's national security and 
keeping our people safe. By applying the highest environmental 
standards and the best that new technology has to offer, DOE can ensure 
that science is harnessed to bolster America's national security, keep 
our edge in research and technology, and build an economy that reflects 
what we value most--our people. We are mindful of the resources 
entrusted for these vital missions and greatly appreciate the ongoing 
support of this Committee and Congress.

    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you, Madam Secretary. Dr. 
Verdon, do you have a statement?
    Dr. Verdon. No, sir. Not at this time.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much. Let me begin with 
the Secretary. Once again, thank you for your service in so 
many ways to the Nation. I deeply appreciate it.
    As I mentioned in my opening statement, last year the 
Committee spent a great deal of time trying to iron out the 
relationship with the Department of Defense and the Nuclear 
Weapons Council, and from your perspective, is that process 
working now? Are we getting a full, integrated conclusion from 
both Defense and Energy?
    Secretary Granholm. I am happy to say that it is, sir. It 
is very intentional. We are absolutely working hand-in- glove 
and are coordinated in our goals, our approach, and in the 
budget.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you, Madam Secretary.
    Dr. Verdon, plutonium facility construction costs are about 
$20,000 to $25,000 per square foot, on average, based on what 
you have been doing out at Los Alamos. In 2018, you performed 
an engineering study in which Los Alamos originally proposed a 
modular 25 [sic]-square-foot building to be built next to their 
plutonium facility, at roughly $5 billion, and early the 
Nuclear Weapons Council approved this approach.
    That was one approach, but the administration is firmly 
committed now to two facilities, one in Savannah and one in Los 
Alamos. But the facility in Savannah's cost growth has gone 
from $4.6 billion to $11 billion. I wonder, looking at the 
metric of square feet and what you have done in Los Alamos, are 
you considering applying the same type of production to 
Savannah to lower costs, or alternatives to try to lower costs?
    Dr. Verdon. Sir, we are looking at--the original cost of 
$4.2 was really a top-down estimate. The present cost we have 
now are the first time the subject matter experts have actually 
built a bottoms-up cost. So, you know, the costs are actually 
comparable now to the Los Alamos project also. So there is 
quite a bit of consistency between the two.
    But we still find that the two-site solution is the most 
schedule- and cost-efficient way for us to reach the 80 pits a 
year, because as you mentioned, to do 80 pits at one site would 
require a whole new facility to be built, which would add years 
and quite a bit of money to build that facility. We are finding 
that the approach that we are using for MOX and Los Alamos are 
very consistent, and all of the latest information we have, 
which is basically the best we have had since we started this, 
still indicates that this is the best path to reach the 80 pits 
per year that the DOD has identified.
    Chairman Reed. So roughly the square foot cost at Savannah 
will be equivalent to the cost at Los Alamos?
    Dr. Verdon. It look a little different from the point that 
the Los Alamos Plutonium Facility-4 actually has a lot of the 
infrastructure already in the building, where the MOX facility, 
we will have to install a lot of the environmental equipment 
that is already present at Los Alamos, we will be installing 
it. So when you take that into account it would look more, but 
it is going to be, effectively, if you try to neutralize all 
that they are very consistent. In fact, we utilized the 
information that we obtained from installing the equipment for 
1 to 10 pits already at Los Alamos to inform the costs of both 
sites.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. Let me ask another question, Dr. 
Verdon. NNSA has been directed by the Nuclear Weapons Council 
to begin exploratory studies of submarine warhead to be sealed 
in the mid-2030s, and my understanding is that this effort is 
being undertaken with the United Kingdom. Can you, in this open 
session, describe what activity we will be participating with 
in the United Kingdom, and the necessity for this weapon 
system?
    Dr. Verdon. Well, the necessity, I would say you would have 
to speak to the STRATCOM Commander for that, because he sets 
those requirements. But our work with the United Kingdom, which 
is an independent development of their warhead, we tried to 
synergistically leverage each other's abilities to make sure 
that we have the highest confidence that both systems will 
work. Where they integrate is more back into, again, the Navy, 
so Admiral Wolfe, when it comes to integrating on the missile. 
So that is why it is necessary for us to work closely together 
to make sure that both what we build for the United States and 
what they build for their country will function correctly on 
the missiles, which are common.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Again, Madam Secretary, 
Dr. Verdon, thank you very much.
    With that I would recognize the ranking member for his 
questions. Senator Inhofe.
    Senator Inhofe. Okay, that is good. Thank you. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman. We are putting this exhibit up. I know you have 
both seen it, and you are very familiar with it. But we want to 
make sure it is in view of the camera and make sure that 
everyone understands what we are trying to say here.
    Last summer, the previous NNSA administrator testified that 
more than a third of the NNSA's facilities are over 60 years 
old. We know that, and we have heard that, and that is a 
problem.
    Secretary Granholm, I would first ask you, have you 
personally seen and witnessed and toured these facilities?
    Secretary Granholm. No, I have not yet because of the COVID 
restrictions, but I look forward to doing so.
    Senator Inhofe. Yes. I knew that was your answer, and I 
know that is right, and you and I talked about this so I wanted 
to ask you on the record. Will you personally do that?
    Secretary Granholm. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Inhofe. That is good. That is good. When our 
adversaries are rapidly building up their nuclear arsenals, why 
would be cutting the funding of our basic facility maintenance?
    Now everybody knows that during the last administration 
there was a problem, a relational problem, between your 
predecessor and me and some of the others up here. I want to 
make sure that we all want to do the same thing, and from our 
conversations I believe that we do, and I am looking forward to 
a great relationship, unlike the previous administration's 
relationship with me.
    Dr. Verdon, you are an expert. In the past year's NNSA, 
official stated that they need real sustained growth every year 
to keep the nuclear modernization on track. How will flat or 
reduced budget affect the NNSA ability to meet the DOD 
requirements over time, should that be the case? Would you 
expand on that a little bit, on what would be the effect if we 
failed to come up with the right approach to this?
    Dr. Verdon. Yes, sir. So when we put the 2022 request 
together we took a hard look at all of the requirements as we 
understood them, and, you know, given to them by the Department 
of Defense and what we had to do to meet those requirements. We 
did the best risk balancing that we could across the complex. 
We ensured that the warheads got the funding that they 
absolutely needed, that the major facility modernizations got 
the funding that they absolutely needed.
    In the area of infrastructure and operations, what we 
looked at there that was one of the areas during the COVID 
pandemic that we actually had to do some slowdowns. We 
recognize that we will have higher than usual carryovers in 
those areas. So that is why we reduced some of the requests 
that we originally were thinking about. We reduced them in 
recognition of the fact that we just could not put the number 
of people necessary within the square footage to get the work 
accomplished in a safe and effective manner.
    So that was one of the reasons we lowered the request from 
some initials, was just the realization that COVID had a larger 
impact in that area. But again, we think we can accomplish--you 
know, we are working with the sites, that we can accomplish all 
of the work required to keep the infrastructure moving forward. 
As I say, all the major facility modernizations are supported, 
and so that was a lot of the thinking.
    Then the other important area in the infrastructure 
modernization that looks like an artificial downturn is that 
the uranium processing facility is at its highest funding in 
fiscal year 2021, and it is beginning its natural roll-off in 
fiscal year 2022. So that almost accounts for $100 million or 
more of the reduction in fiscal year 2022, is just that natural 
roll-off that is beginning at the uranium processing facility.
    I think the important message is we believe we can 
accomplish, with the budget request as presented, all of the 
key things that we have to do in fiscal year 2022.
    Senator Inhofe. Dr. Verdon, it is understandable some of 
the things that we had to go through during the pandemic, and 
we do understand that, and we understand the results of that. 
But now we are out of that and we are on our way, and would you 
agree with the statements that I made about our adversaries, 
what they have been doing, and the necessity for us to get back 
in the game?
    Dr. Verdon. Yes, I agree. I mean, your pictures are worth 
1,000 words. We have a lot of infrastructure work to do, and as 
I say, we kept a major focus on the modernization because that, 
in some sense, is deferred maintenance as well. Some of the 
buildings, the faster we can replace them, the better off we 
are, instead of putting money to try to keep old buildings 
functioning.
    Senator Inhofe. In your background, have you ever seen more 
deplorable conditions than we are witnessing here?
    Dr. Verdon. Some of those buildings, they are eye- opening 
to go through them, and that is some of the challenges we face 
is still trying to keep them functioning. The sites are 
commended for still accomplishing the work in some of those 
facilities.
    Senator Inhofe. Well, I thank both of you, and thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. Let me recognize 
Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you to the chair and ranking member, 
and thank you to the witnesses for your service, and especially 
Governor Granholm and I served together as governors, and it is 
a real treat to see you here before the Committee.
    A concern that I had in the previous administration was a 
policy that is known as Part 810 authorizations, when the 
United States--Part 810 describes a process by which the United 
States vets and then approves the transfers of sensitive 
nuclear technology to other nations. It had long been the 
practice of administrations of both parties that when Part 810 
agreements were reached, and limited transfers of sensitive 
nuclear technology to other nations was allowed, that the 
administrations would notify Congress of that fact.
    The Part 810 process involves DOE and other agencies, 
looking at the request for the transfer of nuclear technology, 
and it involves signoff by a number of agencies, including the 
DOE.
    During the past administration, there began to be a 
practice which I believe was unprecedented, of the U.S. 
Government doing transfers of sensitive nuclear information to 
other nations, and in particular, to Saudi Arabia, without 
Congress being notified. At a hearing, I believe it was 2 years 
ago, when we had Secretary Kerry before us, I asked him about 
such transfers, and in particular were transfers being made to 
Saudi Arabia, and in extreme particularity, were we 
transferring nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia after the 
assassination by the Saudi Arabian Government of Virginia 
resident and Washington Post journalist, Jamal Khashoggi.
    I was not given an answer about that at the hearing. I was 
promised information about it, and it took a very, very long 
time for me to finally get the information from the 
administration, and I give credit, actually Senator Jim Risch, 
then chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 
eventually helped me get this information.
    But what I was hoping, Madam Secretary, is that you would 
commit to us that the Biden administration would return to past 
practice, and when there is a decision made by the 
administration to transfer sensitive nuclear technology to 
other nations that Congress be informed of that. It does not 
seem to be too much to ask for the SAS Committee, the Intel 
Committee, the Foreign Relations Committee, and others to know 
if we are transferring sensitive nuclear technology to other 
nations.
    So just a bottom-line question, could you tell us that you 
will return to past practice and keep Congress informed when 
Part 810 authorizations are being utilized to transfer nuclear 
technology to other nations?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, Senator. You have my word.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you. Mr. Chair, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine, and now let me 
recognize Senator Rounds, please. Excuse me, Senator Rounds, 
but Senator Fischer is on Webex. Senator Fischer via Webex, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Verdon, what 
lessons do you think we can learn from our recent experience 
with pit production? I know this has been an objective since 
Rocky Flats closed in 1989. It was part of President Obama's 
modernization commitment that he made with the New START 
Treaty. But CMRR was cancelled in 2012, and NSA did not begin 
its analysis of alternatives for follow-up options until 2016. 
That analysis failed to select a preferred alternative. It was 
followed by a subsequent engineering analysis, and finally, 
after 2 years of study, NNSA selected its current approach, 
which we are now discovering is not going to make the deadline 
for production.
    Clearly the challenge we faced was underestimated. 
[Inaudible] about having time to spare they were wrong. What do 
we do differently to make sure that this does not happen again?
    Dr. Verdon. Thank you for the question. It is a very good 
question that we are actually working very hard on. We are 
trying to follow a very rigorous process for when we identify 
requirements to when we actually commit to doing the actual 
construction. What we are finding is we have to find a way to 
improve the fidelity of the information we have earlier in the 
project, because, you know, we are pushing through on the pit 
production, and when we achieved Critical Decision 1 that is 
only 30 percent design complete. Critical Decision 2 is when we 
get to 90 percent design complete.
    What we are trying to figure out is how to get more of that 
information up front without committing the country yet to a 
final decision and making sure that we bring to the country all 
of the right options still. So we are trying to walk that fine 
line of how to improve the fidelity of the information, and the 
costing information, scheduling information earlier, but 
literally what we are finding is takes doing the detailed 
design work, because all of these facilities are unique, one-
of-a-kind. That is both good news and bad news. It is good news 
that there are not too many of these around the world, and it 
is rougher news from the point of view that they are not 
commodity, they are not off the shelf. Each one is unique.
    But we are working and we recognize it is an area where we 
have to improve on how to bring higher fidelity information 
earlier into the process rather than later, which is how we are 
doing it right now, as we improve the fidelity as we go along.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you very much. Madam Secretary, I 
know this predates your tenure, but you are in a position to 
apply the lessons learned and ensure that we do not repeat 
these mistakes. So I would also like to hear your views on 
this.
    Secretary Granholm. Well, I obviously defer to the 
expertise of the gentleman to my left, because his knowledge 
and his management of the production and the time frame and the 
estimates are well grounded in his experience. I just have to 
say that, you know, as the Energy Secretary, the relationship 
between NNSA and DoE and the sharing of information like this 
has been incredibly important for me, just as a starting 
matter, but also the pledge to continue to work closely with 
NNSA, in my learning of the production challenges, the estimate 
challenges, the managerial challenges, the personnel 
recruitment issues that NNSA is experiencing, which is 
reflected across society, frankly.
    Senator Fischer. Very good. Good to hear. Thank you.
    Also, Secretary Granholm, Section 179 of Title 10 requires 
that the Nuclear Weapons Council, to make certification 
regarding the adequacy of NNSA's budget, the certification is 
required to be submitted with the budget, and that was released 
on May 28th, but this Committee has still not received it. I 
understand the budget process this year is irregular, but let 
me ask you this. We have DOE and NNSA, have they begun 
discussions with members of the Nuclear Weapons Council about 
next year's budget, so that the Council is in a position to 
provide a certification when it is submitted to Congress, as 
required?
    Secretary Granholm. Oh yes. We have been in lots of 
discussions with the Council about the budget that you are 
considering. I believe they are going to be certifying that 
budget, and clearly we will continue those conversations going 
into the next year after this.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Senator Rosen 
must preside, so I want to thank Senator King for yielding. 
Senator Rosen, you are recognized.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Senator King, and thank you, 
Chairman Reed and Ranking Member Inhofe, and I appreciate both 
your service and being here today.
    I want to quickly talk about the Nevada National Security 
Site and our infrastructure needs, because when I last visited 
there I saw the ongoing construction project at the U1a 
facility for enhanced capabilities for the subcritical 
experiments that we do there, the ECSE. I am excited that 
Nevada National Security Site was going to house the most 
capability weapons radiographic system in the world.
    So Dr. Verdon, could you provide us with an update on the 
upgrade to the ECSE facility at the U1a complex and tell us how 
the new facility will improve our Stockpile Stewardship 
Program's scientific capabilities, including a very important 
understanding of plutonium?
    Dr. Verdon. Yes. We are moving forward, as you say, with 
the ECSE, which is really two parts. One is actually the 
construction of the underground facility, which is moving 
forward and is meeting all of their objectives, and the 
development of the radiographic equipment, which is also making 
progress on schedule. So the project is one of our highest-
focused areas and the labs and sites are working very hard to 
make sure that that is met.
    Yes, it will be a world-class facility when completed, and 
it will give us information that we just have not had access to 
since we did nuclear tests. So this is a key technological 
advancement in that regard, and will actually decrease the 
technical need to ever return to testing once we complete this 
facility.
    Senator Rosen. Now that you have said that I am awfully 
concerned that the President's budget request proposes an 11 
percent cut to the Nevada National Security Site. So how is 
that going to impact the critical mission that we are going to 
have, that we have there, ongoing and into the future, and 
maintain our superiority?
    Dr. Verdon. Yes, so the funding to all the critical, you 
know, the high-priority areas has been maintained. There are a 
few areas that we completed projects and we rolled them off. 
But there are others that are going to be starting soon. But 
all of the major projects, like utility upgrades and the ECSE 
and other activities have all been funded at the requisite and 
required levels.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I would like to move on to you, 
Secretary Granholm, and talk a little bit about the plutonium 
removal. In fall of 2018, the Department of Energy secretly--
secretly--shipped one half a metric ton of weapons-grade 
plutonium from South Carolina to the Nevada National Security 
Site. As part of an effort to restore trust with the people of 
Nevada, NNSA committed to begin that removal of the material no 
later than 2021, completing the removal by 2026.
    Can you provide us with an update on the plan to remove the 
plutonium, and I do understand that one-half metric ton of this 
plutonium will be used for pit production activities at Los 
Alamos, and so I know it is critical that it gets there, 
Secretary.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. The commitment that we made with 
the state stands. We will remove, and continue to remove that 
plutonium, consistent with that agreement.
    Senator Rosen. Dr. Verdon, can you--if you cannot do it 
now, can you provide to the Committee in writing an update on 
the status of Los Alamos achieving their 30 pits per year, and 
how this does rely on the materials being transported from the 
Nevada National Security Site?
    Dr. Verdon. We will be happy to do so.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    Secretary Granholm. The Department of Energy's National 
Nuclear Security Administration (DOE/NNSA) remains committed to 
remove the weapon-grade plutonium shipped from South Carolina 
in 2018 and currently staged at the Nevada National Security 
Site (NNSS). This effort is crucial to support Los Alamos 
National Laboratory's (LANL) mission to produce 30 plutonium 
pits per year (ppy) beginning in the year 2026. Pursuant to a 
U.S. District Court order, DOE/NNSA was required to remove one 
metric ton of plutonium from South Carolina by 2019. The one-
half metric ton of weapon-grade plutonium that was shipped from 
South Carolina to Nevada before November 2018 is material that 
will be utilized to meet NNSA's pit manufacturing objectives at 
LANL. DOE/NNSA committed to commence removal of this material 
from Nevada beginning in calendar year 2021 and to complete 
removal by the end of calendar year 2026. DOE/NNSA remains on 
track and committed to meeting the agreement regarding removal 
of this plutonium from Nevada.

    Dr. Verdon. Department of Defense (DOD) objectives and 
federal law require reestablishing the capability to produce no 
fewer than 80 war reserve plutonium ppy. In 2018, the Nuclear 
Weapons Council (NWC) endorsed the NNSA two-site strategy for 
pit production. This includes expanding existing capabilities 
at LANL's Plutonium Facility (PF-4) to produce no fewer than 30 
ppy at LANL during 2026. Work to implement 30 ppy production 
capacity at LANL is progressing. The Los Alamos Plutonium Pit 
Production Project (LAP4) to install the equipment and 
infrastructure necessary to meet LANL's pit production mission 
objectives achieved Critical Decision-1, Approve Alternate 
Selection and Cost Range, in April 2021 and work continues to 
finalize the project design in support of CD-2, Approve 
Performance Baseline. Concurrently, under the auspices of the 
joint Pit Product Realization Team, LANL continues to produce a 
series of pits to prove-in and qualify manufacturing processes 
and enable production of the first war reserve plutonium pit in 
2023. The weapon-grade plutonium currently staged at the Nevada 
National Security Site (NNSS) is in the process of being moved 
to LANL to support this element of NNSA's pit production 
mission. Plutonium removal from NNSS began in 2021 and will be 
completed by the end of 2026.

    Senator Rosen. Thank you, and the last question I have is 
about radioactive waste shipments, because in 2019, Nevada 
learned that the Department of Energy had been shipping 
incorrectly labeled low-level radioactive waste from the Y-12 
facility in Oakridge to the Nevada National Security Site. This 
waste was, in fact, mixed, low-level radioactive waste, which 
violated the waste acceptance criteria for NNSS.
    Currently, NNSS lacks waste verification equipment to 
verify that waste received for disposal meets the acceptance 
criteria. This technology and additional personnel are critical 
if we are able to do our job. Over 1 million cubic feet of low-
level radioactive mixed waste may come to us for disposal each 
year.
    Secretary Granholm, would you support funding for waste 
verification technology at the NNSS to ensure that the site is 
receiving and disposing the proper waste and avoiding further 
mislabeled shipments?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. I am assuming that Dr. Verdon 
would agree that that is important.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, and I yield back. I have 10 
seconds. I am going to preside. Thank you again for allowing me 
to----
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Let me now 
recognize Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to say 
Governor Granholm, but Secretary Granholm, it is good to see 
you again. It is. I think the governor title is probably a 
better title, but nonetheless, welcome.
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you.
    Senator Rounds. Dr. Verdon, thank you for your service, and 
we appreciate you being here in front of us today. I have got a 
series of questions, but I want to focus back on, and come back 
to where Senator Fischer was leading to begin with, with regard 
to the budget. But I want to lead into it by visiting with Dr. 
Verdon for just a few minutes, concerning the infrastructure 
issues.
    I would like to begin by just simply asking how confident 
are you that the infrastructure in place to support the nuclear 
modernization efforts and the programs planned over the next 
few decades, whether or not the infrastructure will be able to 
handle those necessary programs, as planned. The reason why I 
am asking it in this way is because it is pretty clear that the 
infrastructure that we have got right now, and I think what 
Senator Inhofe has shared, is that we have got some pretty 
serious infrastructure problems.
    In fact, the NNSA's own fiscal year 2021 Stockpile 
Stewardship and Management Plan states that a number of key 
facilities do not meet modern safety standards and require 
significantly increased investments to maintain. The plan 
further states that the infrastructure issues may very well 
impact stockpile maintenance and warhead deliveries.
    This is simply not acceptable, and with that I would like 
your opinion on whether or not we actually have it in place and 
whether or not we are doing enough to bring it up to speed.
    Dr. Verdon. We have used the DOD requirements to actually 
drive the priority of which we are attacking the 
infrastructure. So all of the large facility, or facility 
infrastructure requests have been prioritized, all with meeting 
the DOD requirements and worker safety in mind.
    We recognize that there is--you know, as I think I have 
said many times, the complex has truly atrophied. The pictures 
showed that. We recognize we cannot do it all at once, so we 
have prioritized it based on personnel safety and the weapons 
that we need to deliver to the DOD. We are keeping those 
priorities and moving to address them all, and working 
diligently on those facilities that we will not be able to 
wholesale replace, to make sure that their maintenance is kept 
up to speed.
    Senator Rounds. Here is the second part of this, though. 
Naturally, we are also concerned about the recent announcement 
concerning NNSA's ability to produce plutonium pits. Both 
statute, specifically 50 U.S.C. 2538a and STRATCOM, require 
that NNSA produce no less than 30 plutonium pits per year by 
2026, and 80 plutonium pits per year by 2030. Can you explain 
why you are unable to meet this statutory requirement, and 
also, what do we need to do, as Congress, to be able to help 
you meet that goal, that directive, that mandate?
    Dr. Verdon. So again, the two-site solution is the approach 
that we still think is a viable one for the 80 pits per year. 
What we identified--we still have confidence of being to meet 
the 30 pits per year by 2026 at Los Alamos. What the detailed 
analysis showed is when we started the work on the Savannah 
River site, what the detailed analysis showed is as we actually 
started to do the design work that the amount of equipment we 
needed in there, the amount of people we needed in there, we 
just could not get them in, all done at the same time, to meet 
the 2030 objective.
    What we do believe is if we can meet it between 2032 and 
2035, that is what the next phase of the Savannah River project 
will look at, is defining better what that time frame is. But 
it was just basically more detailed information, more detailed 
analysis to identify that vendors could not potentially provide 
the equipment we needed on the right time frame, we could not 
get enough people in the building to do the work, you know, 
faster.
    Senator Rounds. Dr. Verdon, I am going to run out of time, 
but I just want to make this point. The Nuclear Weapons Council 
has not certified the NNSA budget, as I think Senator Fischer 
was getting at, which was supposed to be done by the end of 
June. They pushed the deadline to the end of July. Now there is 
a reason why they have not done that yet.
    Now this particular council, just for the benefit of folks 
watching this, this Nuclear Weapons Council consists of the 
Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, the 
Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Under Secretary 
of Defense for Research and Engineering, the Under Secretary of 
Defense for Policy, the STRATCOM Commander, the NNSA 
Administrator. Clearly there is an issue, and I am suggesting--
and this is the reason, Secretary Granholm, that I think you 
need to be able to participate in this directly--apparently the 
budget--and I think there is a reason why they are not 
certifying the budget at this point and have delayed it at 
least 30 days--I am questioning whether or not the budget 
adequately responds to the immediate needs that are being 
pointed out by the deficiencies in infrastructure and the 
inability to produce plutonium pits based on what is directed 
by STRATCOM and by statute.
    I know I am out of time, but just a quick, brief response, 
if the Chairman would allow it.
    Chairman Reed. Yes, please. A quick response.
    Secretary Granholm. You want that to me? It is my 
understanding that--and, of course, you have not seen the 
documentation yet--but that we are all in sync, and that it 
will be certified. But again, you have got to get your 
documents in front of you. I also understand that there will 
be, as you know, a nuclear posture review in August, and in the 
first year of any administration, or at least the past couple 
of administrations, there is the out-funding, the policy 
associated with that nuclear posture review is not reflected in 
the budget, and there we wanted to have some conversations 
about that. Understandably, we all want to make sure that we 
have the requirements met in the out years as well.
    So I think--and again, you will have to get the document 
from them, but I think we are in sync, and I think there will 
be a certification.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Senator King, 
please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Granholm, 
the bedrock of this nation's national defense strategy is 
deterrence, and we are going through a once-in- a-generation, 
perhaps once in two or three generations modernization of our 
deterrent capability--Columbia submarine, B-21, ground-based 
strategic deterrent, returning to pit production, upgrading of 
warheads, and nuclear command and control.
    In your view, if we failed to do that, if we back off of 
that mission of upgrading those elements of our nuclear 
deterrent, does that diminish the deterrence that affects the 
calculus of our adversaries?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator King. That is exactly the answer that I believe is 
also the case. Deterrence is in the mind of the adversary, and 
if they perceive that we have allowed our nuclear deterrent 
capability to degrade, that in itself, will it not diminish the 
effectiveness of deterrence?
    Secretary Granholm. Absolutely. As Secretary Austin has 
said, nuclear deterrence should be the number one priority.
    Senator King. The best conflict is the one that does not 
occur.
    Secretary Granholm. Exactly.
    Senator King. The best way to have that occasion is for our 
adversaries to understand that we are serious, and that part of 
that is committing the resources necessary to establish the 
capability of the deterrence.
    Turning a moment--and this is not strictly NNSA related but 
it is certainly in this area--is the role of cyber and the 
danger of cyber in our nuclear enterprise, as well as across 
the government. CESER is one of the subagencies of the 
Department of Energy. I would like your commitment that this is 
an agency that will be emphasized, supported, and there is some 
discussion about whether it should be an assistant secretary or 
a professional. But the important thing is that this, I 
believe, is one of the most important initiatives within the 
Department of Energy, and will you commit to your full and 
enthusiastic support of their mission?
    Secretary Granholm. Not only will I commit to the full and 
enthusiastic support, I agree with you 100 percent that it must 
be elevated, and elevated, in my mind, means that we have to 
make sure that we have professional staff. I want to make it a 
directorate that will have the ability to ensure that 
professionals are running it. It is an emergency response 
organization, and you need professionals who are running it 
regardless of administration.
    Unfortunately, and you and I have discussed this, and I 
know this is question and I am happy to have further 
conversations, if there is an appointee, often there are long 
gaps in the leadership, and because these issues, cyberattacks, 
are relentless, gaps in leadership make it very difficult to 
run an effective organization. Since CESER was created, the 
leader of CESER has been unseated, no leader for exactly half 
of the time.
    So we want to make sure that there is consistent, strong, 
professional leadership, and I want to elevate it to be a 
directorate, and make sure that it has the resources that it 
needs.
    Senator King. We will continue to discuss that issue, but 
the important thing is the emphasis on the significant role.
    Let me ask another couple of cyber questions. One is, part 
of nuclear modernization has to be what they call C3--
communications, command, and control. That has got to be cyber 
protected, to the nth degree. Do you agree that that is part of 
the nuclear modernization challenge?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator King. I am sorry?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator King. Thank you. The other piece is the cyber 
protection within your agency. I hope you will be brutal in 
testing, pen testing, and really working the cyber protection 
within the agency. The Federal Government is notorious for 
being cyber vulnerable, and one of the only ways to protect 
against that is individual desktop cyber hygiene. So I hope 
that you will test your employees to be sure that they are not 
responding to phishing emails, that they are not clicking on 
attachments that they shouldn't. It seems mundane, but 85 or 90 
percent of cyberattacks could be prevented by just 
straightforward, simple cyber hygiene at the desktop. I want 
you to appoint somebody whose job it is to expose 
vulnerabilities within the Department.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. We have actually appointed a new 
CIO, and this is exactly what we are focused on.
    Senator King. The final question. Deterrence does not work 
with nonstate actors. That is where nonproliferation comes in, 
and we have to be concerned into the future about nonstate 
actors getting a hold of nuclear materials, and so it is 
critical that your Department works closely with the 
intelligence community, with the entire nonproliferation 
governmental structure, because, as I say, our whole strategy 
rests upon deterrence, but deterrence does not work for a half-
dozen people who are perfectly willing to die to bring a 
nuclear weapon into New York Harbor.
    So please commit to me that you are going to remain 
committed and keep your eye on nonproliferation, because that 
has got to be part of our strategy.
    Secretary Granholm. Absolutely.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Tuberville, 
please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. 
Chairman. Thanks for being here today.
    Secretary Granholm, in January the DOD issued an order 
prohibiting utilities at military facilities from acquiring, 
importing, transferring, or installing specified bulk power 
system equipment from China. What was the rationale behind that 
order?
    Secretary Granholm. The rationale behind the order 
initially, that the Trump administration provided, was, of 
course, to make sure that our system is protected from 
equipment that might be containing cyber malware from our 
adversaries. A very solid rationale. When it was issued, we 
received a lot of feedback from the utilities saying it was 
overly broad and it needed to be addressed more with a scalpel 
rather than an axe.
    We will be following up on this. We have issued a Request 
for Information from the utilities and others, to make sure 
that it is crafted in a way that achieves the goal. But the 
goal is the right goal.
    Senator Tuberville. Does this cover critical civilian 
facilities too?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. In 2015, it was reported 
that the DOE planned to sign a 10-year agreement to build a 
molten salt reactor with China. What is the status of that 
agreement?
    Secretary Granholm. I am going to get back to you on that.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Thank you. You know, they give 
all these explanations over the years, that China is no longer 
a developing nation. I think they have proven that they are a 
little bit past that. They are rapidly growing their military 
and nuclear capabilities. So I would love to hear from you on 
that. Thank you.
    You know, a recent Hill article says the DOE is destroying 
an important piece of our Cold War nuclear programs, Uranium 
233. Have you read the 2008 IG report that cites that U233 is 
vital to our national interest? Have you read that?
    Secretary Granholm. I have not read the report.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed, I would like permission to submit this 
report to the record, please.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    [The information referred to can be found in the Appendix.]

    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Just one other question. 
U233 costs the U.S. billions to create and store, billions, and 
as we speak we are destroying U233. We are going to eventually 
need it, and we are spending more money than is imaginable. 
There is not a lot of it. It is stored. In your answer, why 
would we destroy something that eventually is going to be that 
valuable to this country?
    Secretary Granholm. I would ask whether Dr. Verdon has a 
response to this, but I would say----
    Senator Tuberville. Doctor, do you want to weigh in on 
this?
    Dr. Verdon. Actually, no. I would have to look into that as 
well.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Well, thank you.
    Secretary Granholm. But I will say this, if I might. It is 
important that the United States provide the means for its own 
use, and there has been talk of a uranium stockpile, which this 
Congress funded last year, which has carried over. We are, this 
month, sending out a Request for Information about the creation 
of a U.S.-based uranium stockpile.
    Senator Tuberville. You know, I just hope we are not 
allowing--and helping China in any way. We should not be doing 
that, especially when it comes to nuclear. I have got another 
article, too, from The Hill on U233, Mr. Chairman, I would like 
to submit too.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
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    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you 
both. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Tuberville. Now 
let me now recognize, via Webex, Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
our witnesses for being here today.
    I would like to talk about the NNSA's out-of-control 
spending on the nuclear weapons systems. NNSA has a habit of 
overpromising on development timelines and underestimating on 
costs. This has resulted in projects costing taxpayers billions 
of dollars more than originally anticipated, and finishing up 
the job years behind schedule.
    Just recently, NNSA's budget request estimated that the 
high end of the cost range for pit production at Savannah River 
could be as much $11.1 billion. That is 2.5 times the original 
projection of $4.6 billion. On top of that, NNSA has now pushed 
back its goal of producing 80 plutonium pits per year from 2030 
to 2035. This is just the latest NNSA project that has gone 
over budget and behind schedule.
    So Administrator Verdon, let me ask you, do you think these 
ballooning costs and delays are acceptable?
    Dr. Verdon. Again, to me it is basically, what we are 
trying to do is actually more in line with what you are asking 
for. We are actually trying to be more rigorous in our costing 
and schedule estimates, and that is what we have brought 
forward. You may not have been on earlier on. The original 
estimate for Savannah River was a top-down estimate. It was the 
first that anybody even thought of. So it was not ever viewed 
as a really detailed budget estimate. The one we just announced 
is the first detailed budget and schedule estimate for that 
facility, and that----
    Senator Warren. You know. Okay, let me stop you there. The 
problem I am talking about, I use the example of Savannah River 
because it is 2.5 times past what was originally budgeted, and 
it is now 5 years longer to get it done. But it is not the only 
one.
    NNSA is anticipating a $505 billion in nuclear weapons 
spending over the next 25 years, over $100 billion more than 
what it planned to spend previously. So the question I have is 
this is not just one off. How can Congress or taxpayers feel 
confident that NNSA's cost estimates are anyplace close to 
accurate?
    Dr. Verdon. So again, we are trying to learn lessons from 
the past as quickly as we can. In fact, of all of the major 
construction projects we have done in the recent years, 75 
percent of them have actually come in at or under costs that 
was projected for them. So I do think as an organization we are 
learning. But what we are also identifying, and as we are 
getting new requirements, new requirements also drive up the 
costs, you know, the apparent costs, because we are getting 
additional new requirements into the program. So we have to 
look at that in total. But we are trying to learn hard from the 
past and improve as we go forward, and I think we are making 
progress in that area.
    Senator Warren. Well, I would sure like to see the 
progress, because, you know, if this had only happened once or 
twice, that programs ran into issues, I would feel differently 
about this. These issues are chronic. They have a long and 
well-documented history. A 2010 GAO report concluded, and I am 
going to quote it, that ``DOE did not have a cost-estimating 
policy and that cost-estimating guidance it had developed in 
the 1990s remained in effect but was out of date.'' That is 
over 11 years ago.
    I just want to hear you talk about how things have really 
changed, and maybe the best way to do that is just tell me some 
of the steps that NNSA can take right now, or is taking right 
now to improve its cost estimates and to ensure that these 
projects stay on schedule.
    Dr. Verdon. Again, I think the Department and NNSA together 
have put in a very rigorous capital acquisition project, you 
know, management scheme, that we are following very rigorously. 
We are using OMB and GAO best practices and guidance. If you 
take something like uranium processing facility, which is 
almost a decade-long project, $6.5 billion, it is on budget.
    So as I say, we are seeing successes. We are not perfect 
yet. We recognize that. But we are striving to work to improve 
as we go forward, and I say, I am learning from the past, and 
we are moving forward to improve, and I see metrics that show 
that we are improving. I think with working with the Department 
we have come up with a very rigorous process to manage these 
large capital acquisition projects, in an effort to improve.
    Senator Warren. I hope that is the case. You know, these 
wildly inaccurate cost estimates are unacceptable, and we 
cannot just accept them as the norm, especially as we are 
trying to plot out trillions of dollars in unnecessarily 
modernizing our nuclear arsenals. These cost overruns erode 
public faith in government spending and jeopardize other 
important NNSA projects like nonproliferation and 
counterterrorism efforts.
    Look, I do not think it is outrageous to expect that 
taxpayer dollars we invest be spent intelligently and 
responsibly, and I think it is long past time for NNSA to get 
its house in order on this. I hear you when you say that those 
procedures are underway, but I want to see the results on this. 
These are taxpayer dollars and taxpayer time that is at risk 
here.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Let me now 
recognize Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, 
Secretary Granholm and Dr. Verdon, for being here today.
    Of course, effective transition to the ground-based 
strategic deterrent will require a plan to safely and 
efficiently dismantle, dispose, and demilitarize the current 
ICBM fleet. If you could--and I apologize for missing the first 
part of this--but if you could please walk us through what 
progress is actually being made and what challenges you are 
facing with the disposition planning for the Minuteman III.
    Dr. Verdon. So we are not responsible for the missile--that 
would be the Air Force--but for the warheads that are on the 
missile, roughly half of them will transition off of the 
Minuteman III onto the GBSD. The ones that will not transition, 
the material associated with those warheads, when authorized, 
will be disassembled and stored safely and securely, as we have 
done in the past, with the material that composes those 
warheads.
    Senator Ernst. So you do not foresee any issues then with 
that disposition.
    Dr. Verdon. No.
    Senator Ernst. That is good, and then also, of course, DOD, 
DOE, and NNSA, they all have a stake in the development of the 
nuclear cores that are supporting our weapons systems and our 
nuclear Navy. What is the assessment of the capability and 
ability of our domestic supply and production chains to produce 
these nuclear cores?
    Dr. Verdon. By cores--I am sorry, for clarification--by 
cores you are referring to the pits, that we call the pits? Is 
that what you mean by the core, or the whole weapon?
    Senator Ernst. The whole weapon.
    Dr. Verdon. So we are working very diligently to make sure 
we have a supply chain. I think we are working very closely 
with the Department and the Department of Defense in 
reestablishing more domestic supplies of some of the materials 
that we need, so we are recognizing that that is a key area 
that we have to work on.
    But we are reestablishing, or we have established and we 
continue to work to make sure that we have the correct 
infrastructure to support what we need to do.
    Senator Ernst. Dr. Verdon, is there a role that you would 
see at the Federal Government level or with Congress in making 
sure that we can procure what is necessary domestically?
    Dr. Verdon. You know, we do not have a definitive answer 
yet, but I believe there will be some materials for which the 
economic--you know, trying to get industry to restart some of 
the, you know, domestically, will be a challenge that we may 
need help in the future. There are certain materials we use 
that we have to rely on external sources for, that bringing 
them back onshore may present a challenge for the future that 
we certainly would potentially need help in doing so.
    Senator Ernst. What would some of those concerns that we 
have with external sources, where would those sources be 
located?
    Dr. Verdon. I will say sensitive countries.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate your time. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Ernst. Let me 
now recognize Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Secretary 
Granholm, great to see you again, and Dr. Verdon, great to have 
a University of Arizona Wildcat testifying.
    Secretary Granholm, cyberattacks, malware, ransomware 
attacks have been increasing. Yesterday we had a closed 
Cybersecurity Subcommittee hearing on some of the details of 
these recent attacks. It is an issue that impacts us all, from 
small businesses, large business, government agencies, secure 
networks in our national security agencies. It is a big concern 
of mine.
    The recent Colonial Pipeline cyberattack underscored the 
vulnerability of America's physical infrastructure and the 
impact that even a single attack can have on the Nation. So I 
am pleased to see the increased focus on cybersecurity in the 
fiscal year 2022 budget request, a 42 percent increase from 
last year's funding.
    Secretary Granholm, if Congress funds this increase, what 
efforts will the Department of Energy undertake to ensure that 
America's energy networks are secured against malware, 
ransomware, and other types of cyberattacks?
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you for asking the question. As 
we have seen, the Colonial Pipeline incident made it clear that 
the fact that we do not have standards on pipelines, cyber 
standards on pipelines, like we do on the electricity sector, 
suggests a major whole. So working internally--now the 
Department of Energy and CESER is the sector risk manager for 
the energy sector--working in partnership with CISA, who is 
over in the Department of Homeland Security, and the TSA that 
has responsibility over pipelines, we want to make sure that 
our efforts, and this increase in funding, ensures a 
collaborative, cohesive whole response inside of government, on 
the energy side, which is obviously where our focus is.
    We want to make sure that the Executive order that the 
President issued regarding cyber, and including the notion of 
Energy Star ratings for software, so that we all, inside the 
Federal Government, are purchasing supplies, software, that we 
know are the best, that have the highest standards, that make 
us secure. Those efforts inside of DOE are going to require 
additional resources, hence some of that increase, so both on 
personnel, as well as coordination, as well as helping develop 
standards, as well as implementing those standards inside of 
the Department are all what CESER is working on.
    Senator Kelly. Then also part of this, you know, is the 
sharing of information, and the President had Executive Order 
14028, that talked about this, and really discussed removing 
barriers to cyber threat, information- sharing with the private 
sector. So information that would go from government agencies 
to private sector to benefit all Americans, and this could 
enhance our national security, but being able to gather real-
time information about active threats and effectively 
communicate to others at risk in private industry, we see that 
this can help deter and prevent cyberattacks on our country's 
energy network.
    So can you address any barriers that currently exist to 
communication between the Department of Energy and private 
sector regarding cyberattacks?
    Secretary Granholm. Yeah. I mean, CESER's communications 
with the electricity sector are excellent. We are embedded in 
the Council, we work with them closely. It is a great example 
of what the steps are that have to happen. In that Executive 
order, the President, for example, required that pipelines 
notify the government if they have been the victim of 
cyberattack or ransomware attack. That was not required before.
    So what CESER wants to do is to elevate the visibility, the 
transparency between what is happening in the private sector 
and the information flow to the government. So one example of 
that is technology that has been developed at one of our 
national labs, PNNL. It is called CRISP. It was one example of 
technology that was attached to the electricity sector that 
would give us visibility into the systems, so that if there 
were a bad actor we would know about it, our intelligence 
community would know about it, and we would be able to engage 
in defensive strategies. We do not have that on the pipeline 
sector, and so that is the kind of visibility that is needed on 
the full panoply of the infrastructure associated with energy.
    Senator Kelly. And beyond even infrastructure, I just want 
to point out that it would benefit all of us if we could do a 
much better job sharing this information from the private 
sector to the public sector, so our law enforcement agencies, 
Department of Justice, FBI knows what is going on in the 
private sector. We were discussing this yesterday. How can we 
improve that flow of information? Often, you know, companies--
and I understand their rationale for this--don't always want 
this information to get out there, so we need to explore 
options to maybe keep this somewhat private at some level. What 
we are discussing today is the information that goes from 
government to private industry. So we have got to do a better 
job. This is just going to continue, and in my view, accelerate 
and get worse.
    Thank you, and Mr. Chairman, I want to submit just a couple 
of questions for the record to Dr. Verdon. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Quite all right. Without objection. Let me 
now recognize, via Webex, Senator Blackburn.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
to our witnesses. I want to talk a little bit about our NNSA 
facilities. We have mentioned this in several of our hearings. 
Most of these are over 40 years old. Some are more than 75 
years old that go back to the Manhattan Project. These 
facilities present numerous single points of failure.
    So to understand the gravity of the situation, I would like 
for each witness to provide a specific example of a potential 
consequence to the stability of the U.S. nuclear enterprise, if 
it must continue to rely on this aging infrastructure, and talk 
a little bit about how this is a budgetary issue, how this is a 
personnel issue, and how this a national security issue, 
because if any facilities experience operational shutdowns, 
warhead deliveries may be affected.
    So let's start with that and look at this deferred 
maintenance around these facilities, and talk about how you are 
going to deal with this in this budget. Secretary Granholm, we 
will start with you.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, thank you for the question, 
Senator, and I know Dr. Verdon can speak with great 
specificity, but I think your point about if we do not 
modernize, if we do not have the deterrent capability, then we 
put our Nation at risk. Bottom line. So we have to be able to 
modernize the warheads, and in order to do that we have to have 
facilities that will allow for that modernization to occur. So 
it is a national security issue, obviously.
    It is also, I would say, an opportunity for the U.S. to 
continue to build up its manufacturing backbone inside of the 
United States. So the issue that Senator Ernst began to raise, 
and I think Senator Tuberville, you were suggesting as well, is 
to bring and make sure that we have the capabilities for our 
own defense here in the United States without having to rely 
upon others.
    So from an economic point of view, from a national security 
point of view, we have to do this. It will require budgetary 
commitment--I know that was a third part of your question--and 
we want to make sure that we do this in a thoughtful and 
responsible way, to make sure that we meet the defense 
requirements, and do so in a way that manages, and are stewards 
of the taxpayer dollars as well.
    Dr. Verdon. I would just add that I agree with your 
statements. I think, you know, uranium processing facility at 
the Y-12 is one of the key examples of that, that we are trying 
to get, eventually be able to get programmatic work out of a 
70-year-old building that was built during the Manhattan 
Project, that we are critically dependent on now. That is the 
approach we have taken to our whole approach of replacing a lot 
of these old facilities is identifying what those are key, that 
if we were to lose them would really cause the strategic 
commander a great deal of difficulty operationally, and those 
are our priorities to focus. The uranium processing facility is 
one. The lithium processing facility proposed in starting to be 
designed at Y-12. There are a number of them that we have 
worked very hard to identify which one of those would really be 
instrumental to get done as quickly as possible, and that has 
been the focus of the program. Those that we can risk mitigate 
out longer--we have delayed them, just, you know, to make sure 
that we can, workload level as well as cash flow level.
    But your point is well taken. I agree with the Secretary 
that we are reaching--we have reached a tipping point. We have 
to do this. Otherwise there will be consequences to the 
operations.
    Senator Blackburn. Dr. Verdon, when you talk about 
scheduling modernization for the key secondaries group, and the 
capabilities that are there with enriched uranium, depleted 
uranium, lithium, how does this lack of attention to meeting 
the deferred maintenance backlog, what does that do and what 
kind of challenge does that present to the secondaries, not 
only in an economic manner but also with a personnel manner?
    Dr. Verdon. Again, what we tried very hard to do is we have 
prioritized the deferred maintenance we do. It is clearly 
applied to those facilities that are most important for 
workforce safety and programmatic deliverables. That is where 
we applied the money first.
    Then for a number of facilities, like at Y-12, which you 
mentioned for the secondaries, they have reached the point to 
where, again, we are working on replacing most of them because 
we recognize that, you know, affectionately we say something 
the paint is holding the building together.
    Senator Blackburn. Yeah.
    Dr. Verdon. Those are the ones that we prioritized to be 
replaced, effectively as a different approach to deferred 
maintenance, but we think it is the best approach, and for 
those other areas we have prioritized the work to the highest-
priority buildings that we have on the sites.
    So again, that is the approach we have taken, driven by DOD 
deliverables and workforce and environmental safety.
    Senator Blackburn. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Senator Blackburn, I assume you have 
concluded your comments?
    Senator Blackburn. Okay.
    Chairman Reed. With respect to that I will now recognize, 
via Webex, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary 
Granholm and Administrator Verdon, I was really pleased to see 
in your written testimony you mentioned enhancing our 
cybersecurity across the nuclear enterprise, especially in the 
wake of the Colonial Pipeline hack, and the targeting of 
another contractor that works for the government's nuclear 
programs.
    I listened with great interest to your responses to Senator 
Kelly. But acknowledging that we are in an unclassified 
setting, do you feel confident about DOE and NNSA's capacity to 
handle the ever-growing cybersecurity threat from malicious 
actors and adversaries, and where are the areas where Congress 
can be helpful? I did hear you say you needed funding. I did 
not know if you need authorities. How is your ability to 
recruit and retain key personnel?
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you for the question, Senator. I 
think there is, right now, an administration effort on cyber, 
where we are reviewing all of this. But I will say that it is 
clear that there are gaps, not so much in our ability 
internally to respond, but in our ability to seek what is 
happening in the private sector.
    So this will be a question, and I am sure Congress will 
have to look at this, is there a way that the private sector 
can, for example, on the pipeline side, step up to allow 
themselves to allow the government to have some visibility into 
the system, since the public relies upon their system? Is there 
a requirement that would have Congress step in to say 
something, or is this something that could be incentivized on a 
voluntary basis? I think those are all worthy questions of 
exploring. But what is not acceptable, I think is the status 
quo. So penetrating the information flow from the private 
sector and encouraging that to us and to the intelligence 
community is a high priority.
    Senator Gillibrand. I agree that the status quo is 
unacceptable, and we are working on legislation within the 
Intelligence Committee to address visibility into the private 
sector, and least have mandatory reporting when private sector 
has some intrusion. So we are working on authorities, and this 
Committee will also be working on that to meet the needs, and I 
welcome your advice and guidance on that.
    Do you have the personnel that you need? We have talked a 
lot about getting the best and brightest cyber personnel for 
the entire services and intelligence services. We have debated 
issues of whether we need, for example, a cyber academy, 
similar to the service academies, where we can create civilian 
workforce through something like a service academy, and for 4 
years of your education you give back 4 years in the public 
sector, such as working at Department of Energy or working at 
NSA or CIA, or any other civilian branches that need the best 
and brightest in cyber. Is that something that you think would 
be useful for your ability to attract and retain some of the 
best talent, as opposed to having them go to the private sector 
immediately?
    Secretary Granholm. Yeah, I think we would welcome a pool 
of talented people. We are always trying to increase our 
science, technology, engineering, and math pipeline, and if 
there were a dedicated place where we could be able to ensure 
that we would have some of that talent, and perhaps even once 
they are in, recruit them for the long haul, that would be a 
terrific gift to the Nation.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. One further question. I see 
that there is some potential for artificial intelligence to 
help bolster the security of our nuclear weapons systems, but I 
also have significant concerns given our vulnerability. Again, 
acknowledging that this is an unclassified setting, what 
elements of our nuclear command, control, and communication, 
would you feel more comfortable potentially having AI play a 
role, and what elements do you believe should firmly remain 
within the control of human beings?
    Secretary Granholm. I am going to let Dr. Verdon respond to 
that.
    Dr. Verdon. Well, I think the bigger control, I think, 
would be the bigger NC3. That is really a DOD requirement, and 
they would be the ones that would have to answer that question 
in detail.
    With regards to ours and that kind of role, our 
requirements, we are taking a hard look at that, and it is a 
good question. We are taking a hard look at that, of how do we 
make sure that parts which have to stay in human control do so, 
and that which we can turn over to things like AI, we do, you 
know, do carefully. But I think the bigger question of the 
whole command and control that is really a DOD question for you 
to address.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you so much, both of 
you, for your service, and thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Gillibrand. 
Senator Hawley, please.
    Senator Hawley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to the 
witnesses for being here. Dr. Verdon, if I could just start 
with you, I want to talk about the Kansas City National 
Security Campus, something we are very proud of, my home state 
of Missouri. Can you give us an update on the NNSA's efforts to 
ensure that the Kansas City campus has the capacity, the 
additional capacity it needs to meet production requirements in 
the coming years?
    Dr. Verdon. Yes, sir. So we are expanding the capacity, or 
the footprint, if you like, for manufacturing and developing. 
We are doing that right now through leasing, but in parallel we 
are starting to work on what a long-term vision would be, what 
would be the long-term commitment. So we are doing both. We are 
trying to address the near-term needs, and that will give us 
information about what size the long term may need to be, and 
then we are looking at options for a consolidated campus as we 
go forward into the future.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Secretary Granholm, let me ask 
you to weigh in here. I did want to ask specifically about the 
space that the campus needs, as well as more general support. 
So can you comment on that as well, making sure that the campus 
has the space that it is going to need?
    Secretary Granholm. Yeah. As Dr. Verdon said, they are 
looking at these short-term leases for the moment, but 
expanding to create one consolidated place makes sense, and 
supportive, obviously, of what the NNSA's needs are.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Dr. Verdon, the STRATCOM 
Commander testified earlier this year, this is the quote, ``The 
plutonium pit production is the biggest stockpile modernization 
issue.'' Can you confirm that the NSA is still on track to 
restore our ability to produce 80 plutonium pits per year by 
2030?
    Dr. Verdon. So we are, as we recently notified, we believe, 
based on all of the input we have now, and having the ability 
to work with the vendors and the construction, that we will not 
be able to achieve the 50 pits a year by 2030. We believe that 
the time frame for that will be somewhere in the range of 2032 
to 2035. That is the next step find out as to what that range 
would be.
    We started to have the detailed discussions with actually 
laying out the construction that was required, laying out the 
work with the vendors that supply the equipment, and we found 
that it did not look like it was possible to do it by 2030. So 
right now we have identified 2032 to 2035, and the next step is 
to fine-tune those dates.
    Senator Hawley. So we are looking at, I think you said 50, 
50 pits per year by 2032 to 2035?
    Dr. Verdon. So, sorry. But we are still very optimistic 
that we will achieve the 30 pits a year at Los Alamos by 2026. 
So that still is on target.
    Senator Hawley. But 50 pits a year, now you are hoping, in 
the 2032 to 2035 time range, is what you are saying.
    Let me ask you, in that context, about China. Madam 
Secretary, Admiral Richard has testified recently that China is 
well ahead of the pace to double their stockpile by the end of 
this decade. I can only say I think that those efforts are 
deeply, deeply concerning, and speaks to the need to modernize 
our own nuclear deterrent.
    Do you agree that plutonium pit production is absolutely 
foundational to our nuclear deterrent, and will you prioritize 
ensuring that we are able to stay on schedule? It sounds like 
the schedule is already slipping. Will you prioritize getting 
back on schedule to ensure our efforts to restore this key 
capability?
    Secretary Granholm. I do and I will.
    Senator Hawley. Very good. Dr. Verdon, the NNSA's budget 
request this year includes several increases in the Production 
Modernization Account, I noticed. Some of those increases 
relate to plutonium pit certification activities. Can you say 
something more about that, what those certification activities 
entail, and why you requested the increase?
    Dr. Verdon. Yes. So to build a pit is not just putting the 
equipment in. It is actually then having the laboratory that 
designs that pit, saying that what was built meets 
requirements. What is what we call certification. So it is 
those activities which involve, you know, small-scale testing, 
large-scale testing, to make sure that what the equipment and 
the people have built meets requirements and could be put into 
the stockpile. That is the certification effort.
    Senator Hawley. Got it. Very good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hawley. I understand that 
Senator Inhofe has no additional questions. I want to thank the 
witnesses, Secretary Granholm and Dr. Verdon, for your 
thoughtful and important testimony today, and with that I would 
call the hearing adjourned. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 10:27 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

              Questions Submitted by Senator Mark E. Kelly
                         nnsa future workforce
    1. Senator Kelly. Dr. Verdon, we're blessed to have world-class 
higher education programs in Arizona that are training the next 
generation of technology and security leaders. This pipeline is 
critical for our national security workforce, especially for agencies 
like NNSA, which are faced with the reality of an expert, yet aging, 
workforce. The fiscal year 2022 budget request includes $96 million for 
Academic Alliances, like the Minority Serving Institution Partnership 
Program, which the University of Arizona participates in today.
    How will investment in these and other programs help to recruit and 
retain the highly-technical talent we need to provide for America's 
nuclear security? How is NNSA actively seeking talent and partnering 
with universities across the Nation to develop the necessary talent for 
the future?
    Dr. Verdon. NNSA has implemented multiple university programs to 
develop, recruit, and retain high-quality individuals. Currently NNSA 
sponsors dozens of university programs designed to help meet current 
and future challenges in the nuclear security enterprise (NSE). The 
programs are strategically linked to succession-planning efforts to 
develop, recruit, and retain highly qualified and diverse talent across 
the NSE. Investment in these programs will help provide the next 
generation with opportunities to acquire the experience and expert 
judgment needed to sustain the NSE and provide valuable basic and 
applied research to NNSA's missions.
    NNSA actively seeks talent through partnering with academic 
institutions across the Nation including Minority Serving Institutions 
(MSIs). NNSA's Minority Serving Institutions Partnership Program 
(MSIPP) and the related Tribal Education Partnership Program (TEPP) 
work directly with MSIs and National Laboratories and plants to build 
diverse and sustainable science, technology, engineering, and 
mathematics (STEM) career pipelines to prepare NNSA's next-generation 
technical workforce. MSIPP aligns investments in university capacity 
and workforce development with DOE/NNSA mission areas to develop the 
needed skills and talent for DOE/NNSA's enduring technical workforce 
and to enhance research and education capacity at MSIs. MSIPP builds a 
network of NSE-ready students through enrichment activities from K-12 
to the post-doctoral level. Through MSI-NSE lab/plant consortia 
partnerships, students are provided with internship opportunities 
across the NSE in direct alignment with their academic disciplines and 
exposed to cutting-edge research and activities in their relevant 
fields. The internships afford students the opportunity to make 
significant and immediate contributions to the enterprise.
    Capacity building through curriculum and infrastructure has led to 
the creation of new and advanced nuclear security enterprise related 
curricula. As a result of MSIPP, in fiscal year 2020 there were 485 
undergraduate and graduate college and university students supported 
through the program; 146 faculty professional development and 92 K-12 
outreach activities completed; 277 new MSIPP-type courses and labs; 
eight new degree programs and nine new program certificates; 600 
professional development activities; 162 student internships; and 20 
students were hired into the NSE. NNSA and NNSA's Management and 
Operation (M&Os) contractors are also sponsoring an MSIPP virtual 
career day fair on September 15th with 73 confirmed MSIPP institutions.
    A key MSIPP consortium is the Partnership for Proactive 
Cybersecurity Training (PACT), led by the University of Arizona. PACT 
addresses current and future cybersecurity research challenges, while 
educating and training a next generation of cybersecurity workforce. 
Cybersecurity is a critical area of interest for the enterprise and 
PACT provides an essential pipeline to help the NSE maintain that core 
cybersecurity capability. This is just one of 17 consortia that NNSA 
partners with to develop the necessary talent for the future.
    Another program, the NNSA Graduate Fellowship Program (NGFP), 
recruits, hires, and retains the next generation of talented, high-
potential graduate-level professionals who will continue to contribute 
to the NNSA mission. NGFP has become a robust talent succession 
pipeline for the NSE, and Arizona State is one of our university 
partners helping to bring top talent into the enterprise. For over 25-
years, the program has produced over 600 Federally sponsored graduates, 
and over 85 percent of alumni have accepted positions with ties to the 
national security sector. Since fiscal year 2015, 45 percent of the 
graduates (306 individuals) have accepted Federal employment with NNSA.
    The Stewardship Science Academic Alliances Program (SSAA) 
emphasizes academic research in technical areas of fundamental research 
and development that are relevant to NNSA's Stockpile Stewardship 
Program mission. The Centers of Excellence activities supported by SSAA 
maintain the pillars of technical peer expertise while individual 
investigator grants develop breadth in each field of research relevant 
to NNSA. Both provide students with training and development that align 
with the needs of the NSE. SSAA funding supports research at 
approximately 80 universities, including training of more than 350 
undergraduate, graduate students, and post-doctoral researchers each 
year. The Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation University Consortia for 
Nuclear Nonproliferation program funds are awarded to three university 
consortia, with a fourth consortium focused on nuclear forensics 
planned for fiscal year 2022. The consortia are structured to encourage 
direct engagement of university students at NNSA laboratories for 
graduate research. Nearly 500 degrees, including 177 Ph.Ds., have been 
awarded through the consortia, resulting in more than 140 new career 
placements in the DOE/NNSA's national laboratories. These are just a 
few examples of how NNSA is actively seeking talent for the NSE.
                         nnsa future workforce
    2. Senator Kelly. Dr. Verdon, what challenges and obstacles does 
the organization face in recruiting the needed talent for NNSA to 
sustain and maintain America's nuclear arsenal and other critical 
activities?
    Dr. Verdon. Meeting NNSA's growing mission requirements mandates an 
aggressive, external hiring strategy. With a renewed focus on 
recruitment in multiple cities to support all program areas, NNSA has 
worked to close its staffing shortfall to meet mission growth and 
commitments. NNSA's expanding and challenging national security 
missions require it to recruit, train, and retain a highly skilled 
Federal employee workforce. Challenges the organization faces in 
recruiting the talent needed for NNSA to sustain and maintain America's 
nuclear arsenal and other critical activities include: 1) laboratory 
locations in areas that have high costs of living, are remote, or both; 
2) the need to compete with private industry and other government 
agencies for a limited pool of high-caliber talent; and 3) many NNSA 
positions require security clearances which can be lengthy and/or 
difficult to obtain for some elements of our civilian labor workforce.
      Based on OPM guidance, NNSA is allowed to provide 
recruitment and retention bonuses that would otherwise not be 
authorized, for two hard-to-fill NNSA locations: Livermore Field Office 
(LFO) in Northern California and Los Alamos Field Office (LAFO) just 
north of Albuquerque, New Mexico.
    Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) is uniquely situated 
in the midst of the Nation's information technology hub, and the lure 
of working for a major technology entity for our workforce is very 
real. LFO leadership is constantly recruiting as Federal employees and 
contract partners are pulled away to the private sector with increased 
pay and exorbitant sign-on bonuses. Moreover, the high cost of living 
associated with residing in the local area of LLNL makes government 
employment less attractive.
    LAFO's recruitment and sustainment efforts are hampered by both the 
remoteness of the Lab's location and the high cost of living associated 
with the local area. The attractiveness of employment elsewhere - 
including at the Sandia National Laboratories and a competitive job 
market in the Albuquerque, NM metro area, just an hour and a half south 
of LANL, complicates recruitment and retention for LANL leadership.
      OPM has also identified three critical occupational 
series that are more challenging to recruit for: certified contracting 
professionals, information technology professionals, and cyber security 
professionals.
    NNSA's Office of Acquisition and Project Management requires a 
cadre of seasoned contract specialists with cradle-to-grave acquisition 
experience to assist with providing agile procurement solutions. The 
consistent need for contracting professionals across the whole-of-
government and within the private sector has created a lack of 
available resources across the spectrum of employment opportunities.
    NNSA faces recruitment and retention challenges across the spectrum 
of the information technology and cyber security professions. These two 
occupational specialties are in demand across the Federal Government 
and within the private sector. NNSA competes with the whole-of-
government for a limited pool of available IT and cyber security 
professionals, which impacts recruitment and retention in this critical 
occupational series.
                      nnsa technology investments
    3. Senator Kelly. Dr. Verdon, you have said that the fiscal year 
2022 budget request will enable the National Nuclear Security 
Administration's Office of Naval Reactors to advance new technologies 
and improve reactor performance. This innovation is part of what 
provides the U.S. Navy with an edge over our adversaries.
    What are some of NNSA's target areas for technology innovation in 
the upcoming fiscal year and can you expand on how this funding would 
support them?
    Dr. Verdon. Naval Reactors Development (NRD) funds the development 
of advances in the unique nuclear propulsion technical capability that 
the Navy relies on to operate, build, and maintain nuclear-powered 
ships. Included in this line is funding that enables the Naval Nuclear 
Propulsion Program to manage operations of the current fleet, perform 
analysis of current reactor performance, and support construction of 
nuclear-powered warships. The fiscal year 2022 budget request also 
increases investment in the research and development of new 
technologies, including those intended to support the Navy timeline for 
SSN(X). Investment in mid- to long-term advanced research and 
development has been deferred over the past decade to support major 
recapitalization efforts across the Program.
    The increase in NRD in fiscal year 2022 will support the following 
efforts:
      Performing cutting-edge research to develop new 
technologies and manufacturing methods that significantly improve the 
capability, effectiveness, performance, and cost of future naval 
nuclear propulsion plants to maintain our strategic maritime 
superiority. Examples include added focus on:
       Advanced instrumentation and control technology and 
equipment: Current digital control and power management equipment is 
becoming obsolete and will need to be replaced. Naval Reactors is 
working with commercial industry on replacements that take up less 
space, run cooler and with less power, enable more effective use of 
electrical power in the ship, are more secure against cyber-attack, 
costs less and can efficiently acquire and process a broad range of 
plant data.
       Plant Data and Automation: Advanced sensors, artificial 
intelligence, and data analytics are being pursued to automate current 
manual data collection, and process that data into information that 
gives the operator a clearer picture of plant status, with goals to 
simplify operation, enable confident condition-based maintenance, 
increase ship operational availability and ease the burden on our 
sailors.
       Core manufacturing development: Naval Reactors has 
started an effort to change how we manufacture reactor cores, with 
technology that promises to provide a more capable reactor for the next 
ship, while also allowing that reactor to be smaller and cost less. The 
new approach employs advanced, high precision robotics and machine 
learning methods for automated in-process inspection that can quickly 
find and correct potential production process issues much earlier than 
is possible today, reducing our fabrication costs and risks.
       Component manufacturing technologies: Naval Reactors 
sees practical potential for using certain advanced manufacturing 
approaches in building major plant components. These advanced 
capabilities include hot-isostatic pressing and metal additive 
manufacturing, and based on industry experience, promise to deliver 
propulsion plant components at reduced cost and schedule, in addition 
to enabling performance-enhancing designs with unique or complex 
geometries. These advanced manufacturing approaches can supplement, or 
in some cases replace, traditional forging and casting methods, some of 
which have changed little since WWII.
      Developing technology for reactor plant components that 
will provide substantial improvements in quieting capability and 
performance for future submarines. There is real potential to make a 
meaningful improvement to submarine stealth. Achieving an improvement 
involves work in reactor technology areas using existing specialized 
laboratory test facilities and state of the art flow and heat transfer 
computer methods, as well as targeted improvements to key reactor plant 
components.
      Recapitalizing facilities and equipment for inspecting 
and characterizing naval spent nuclear fuel; efforts that have the 
potential to provide increased operating capability of nuclear 
submarines and aircraft carriers.
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           Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy H. Tuberville
                             nuclear energy
    4. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Granholm, would you agree nuclear 
energy is essential to the long-term goal of plentiful power and carbon 
reduction? Please explain your answer in detail.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, I agree that nuclear energy is essential 
to the long-term goal of plentiful power and carbon reduction. To reach 
our ambitious goals of a 50 to 52 percent reduction in our carbon 
emissions in 2030, 100 percent clean electricity by 2035, and a net-
zero economy by 2050, we will need to use every single clean energy 
tool available. Our existing nuclear power plants, as well as new 
advanced nuclear designs will play crucial roles in helping us meet 
these goals.
                            nuclear reactors
    5. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Granholm, please provide an 
overview of recent developments in advanced reactors, many of which are 
reincarnated from the heyday of nuclear design in the 1960s and 1970s. 
How many are being developed in the private sector?
    Secretary Granholm. Current innovative advanced reactor designs 
that are under development have the potential to offer significant 
benefits versus existing and past technologies, including possible 
lower costs, enhanced safety and security, greater resource 
utilization, and simpler operating regimes. The Office of Nuclear 
Energy's (NE) Advanced Reactor Technologies (ART) program supports 
innovative reactor concepts including fast reactors, molten salt 
reactors (MSR), high temperature gas-cooled reactors (HTGR), and 
microreactors.
    Fast Reactors can utilize many coolants including liquid sodium, 
liquid lead, gas, and molten salts. Recent advancements in fast reactor 
technology have focused on reducing capital costs, enhancing safety, 
and improving operational flexibility.
    Modular HTGRs under development today use low-enriched uranium and 
a relatively low-powered core to enable passive heat removal. This 
combination of fuel and core design prevents the core from melting even 
under the most severe accident conditions. It also allows the coolant 
to be safely heated to much higher temperatures suitable for supporting 
energy-intensive processes that currently rely on fossil fuels, such as 
hydrogen production, desalination, district heating, petroleum 
refining, and ammonia production. Over the past decade, the advanced 
gas reactor (AGR) program has refined fuel fabrication expertise and 
improved the fuel performance of tri-structural isotropic (TRISO) fuel 
for use in commercial HTGRs. TRISO fuel exhibits very low particle 
failure rates during irradiation, and remarkable durability under 
severe accident conditions. Additionally, advances in materials 
development and qualification, such as the recent qualification of 
Alloy 617, enables HTGRs to potentially support higher efficiency base-
load electricity generation and broader cogeneration and high-
temperature process heat markets. Alloy 617 can be deployed in reactor 
environments up to 954 degrees Celsius (C), which is an increase of 180 
degrees C over previously accepted alloys.
    Some recent MSR concepts are being designed to use chloride salts, 
which are more economical and readily available than salts used in 
early MSR designs. Early MSRs also were liquid fueled but a new MSR 
variant known as the Fluoride salt-cooled High Temperature Reactor 
(FHR) can utilize the robust solid TRISO fuel form being developed for 
high temperature reactors. Further, FHRs can operate at high 
temperatures and can potentially support higher efficiency electricity 
generation and process heat applications.
    Microreactors are a cross-cutting category of very small reactors 
that may utilize any of the coolants currently under development by 
advanced reactor designers and supported by NE. Microreactors offer 
unique features such as high energy reliability, simplicity of reactor 
control and safety design, factory fabrication, and transportability by 
truck, rail, or aircraft. These features may provide a reliable and 
economic power production alternative for remote, off-grid communities 
and may provide reliable, secure, and transportable power and process 
heat options for defense applications.
    Recognizing the promise of advanced reactor designs, dozens of 
United States companies are working on advanced nuclear reactor designs 
for a wide array of capabilities to meet the energy needs of the 
future.

    6.Senator Tuberville. Secretary Granholm, is it possible for 
civilian reactors to potentially create more fuel than they consume? 
e.g., all fast-neutron reactors can technically be designed to operate 
as ``breeder'' reactors, and when using U-233, both fast and slow-
neutron reactors can run as breeders.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, fast reactors can be designed to breed 
fissile material in the reactor core and produce fissionable material 
when operated in conjunction with a reprocessing/recycling facility in 
a closed fuel cycle, as is done in some foreign fast reactor programs. 
As noted, when using uranium-233, both fast and slow-neutron reactors 
can breed fissile material. In all uranium and thorium fuels, new 
fissile isotopes are created in the reactor environment. Both existing 
and advanced reactors take advantage of this conversion and subsequent 
fissions that have the performance benefit of extending fuel burnup. 
The favorable neutron balance in fast reactors at high uranium loading 
can create fissile isotopes more quickly than they are consumed by 
fission. The rate of fissile isotope production is highly dependent on 
the reactor fuel loading, with flexibility to ``breed'' or burn the 
fissile inventory.
    Most U.S. advanced fast reactor concepts are being designed to be 
net consumers (burners) of fissile material. Fast burner reactors can 
be used to support waste management missions by consuming nuclear 
waste. However, the commercial infrastructure to support reprocessing/
recycling does not exist in the United States today; hence, U.S. fast 
reactor developers are planning on a once-through fuel cycle supporting 
their reactors and are targeting high efficiency base-load electricity 
generation and process heat markets.

    7. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Granholm, one of the reactors that 
DOE has chosen for demonstration--the Natrium reactor design by GE-
Hitachi and Terrapower--is a fast-neutron reactor. Do you believe it 
could produce more fuel than it consumes?
    Secretary Granholm. The Natrium reactor is a sodium fast-spectrum 
reactor (SFR) design. SFRs could be designed to breed fissile material 
in the reactor core and produce fissionable material when operated in 
conjunction with a reprocessing facility in a closed fuel cycle, as is 
done in some foreign SFR programs. However, due to a lack of commercial 
reprocessing infrastructure in the United States, the designers of the 
Natrium reactor decided to design Natrium to produce less fuel than it 
consumes and operate with an open fuel cycle.

    8. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Granholm, depending on the 
residence time of the fuel in the reactor and the nature of the 
chemical processing, any excess fuel produced by a reactor can 
potentially be weapons-grade material. What steps does the DOE foresee 
are necessary to ensure that we can adequately safeguard the 
production, storage, and movement of such nuclear fuel in a future 
where advanced reactors are more prevalent?
    Secretary Granholm. The Department is confident that the management 
of spent nuclear fuel from existing reactors and that expected from the 
proposed advanced reactors is and will be done in a responsible manner 
that protects the environment, the workers, and the public. Consistent 
with this, the Department understands that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory 
Commission (NRC) ensures safeguards and security (S&S) of these 
reactors and their spent nuclear fuel by regulating licensees' 
accounting systems for nuclear materials and security programs. The 
Department further understands that NRC regulations require the 
licensee to maintain a nuclear material control and accounting (MC&A) 
program that tracks and verifies special nuclear material (SNM) that is 
on site. The MC&A regulations ensure that the information collected by 
the licensee about SNM is accurate, authentic, and sufficiently 
detailed to enable a licensee to maintain current knowledge of its SNM 
and manage its program for securing and protecting SNM. The MC&A 
program, together with physical protection of facilities and 
information security requirements, make up the primary elements of the 
NRC's SNM safeguards program. The NRC regulates light water reactors 
and has the responsibility to ensure advanced reactors are equally 
secure and protected as they are developed and deployed. The Department 
funds S&S research and development to ensure that improved technologies 
and approaches that strengthen safeguards and security are available to 
licensees, and to help implement them all to meet NRC requirements in 
the most efficient and cost-effective manner.
    The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) serves as an 
intergovernmental forum for scientific and technical co-operation in 
the peaceful use of nuclear technology and nuclear power worldwide. The 
programs of the IAEA encourage the development of the peaceful 
applications of nuclear energy, science and technology, provide 
international safeguards against misuse of nuclear technology and 
nuclear materials, and promote nuclear safety and nuclear security 
standards and their implementation. The National Nuclear Security 
Administration (NNSA) announced the rollout of U.S. Nuclear Nexus 
(http://www.anl.gov/nuclear-nexus), a tool designed to foster timely 
connections between NNSA and the U.S. nuclear industry on the global 
deployment of advanced nuclear technology on August 17, 2021. Nexus 
will act as a single point of access for NNSA and DOE National 
Laboratory recommendations, training, tools, and other relevant 
technical expertise and guidance on nonproliferation.
                             nuclear waste
    9. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Granholm, since the government 
already owns civilian nuclear waste, does it make sense for the Federal 
Government, or in other words, the American people, to own all nuclear 
fuel and by extension any fuel created inside reactors and create a 
leasing program whereby civilian reactors can acquire such fuel?
    Secretary Granholm. The Federal Government does not currently own 
the vast majority of the Nation's civilian spent nuclear fuel but 
instead is obligated to accept and dispose of such material pursuant to 
the Standard Contract that section 302(a) of the Nuclear Waste Policy 
Act authorizes DOE to enter into with the owners of civilian reactors. 
Specifically, due to the lack of any viable existing disposal or 
storage options, DOE has been unable to take title to any spent nuclear 
fuel pursuant to the Standard Contract. However, assuming DOE were able 
to take title to civilian spent nuclear fuel, there are no existing or 
planned commercial reprocessing facilities in the U.S., which could 
extract enriched uranium and plutonium from the spent nuclear fuel for 
fabrication into usable nuclear fuel. Moreover, section 53 of the 
Atomic Energy Act of 1954 generally prohibits DOE from leasing special 
nuclear material, including nuclear fuel, to anyone who possesses or 
operates an NRC-licensed utilization facility, including a civilian 
reactor. In addition, as a general matter, section 3112 of the USEC 
Privatization Act imposes limits on the authority of DOE to provide 
source and special nuclear material, including nuclear fuel, to 
civilian reactors in competition with the commercial sector.
    DOE believes the commercial sector has the capacity and expertise 
to supply nuclear fuel to both the domestic and international markets 
and can better respond to market conditions than DOE. DOE is playing, 
and should continue to play, an important role in maintaining the 
viability and competitiveness of the American nuclear industry by 
supporting efforts to develop advanced nuclear fuel forms and improved 
technology for production, conversion, enrichment and fuel fabrication.

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