[Senate Hearing 115-898]
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                                                        S. Hrg. 115-898

               EXAMINING THE FUTURE OF THE INTERNATIONAL
                SPACE STATION: STAKEHOLDER PERSPECTIVES

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                      SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                     ONE HUNDRED FIFTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION
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                              JUNE 6, 2018
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       SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION

                     ONE HUNDRED FIFTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

                   JOHN THUNE, South Dakota, Chairman
ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi         BILL NELSON, Florida, Ranking
ROY BLUNT, Missouri                  MARIA CANTWELL, Washington
TED CRUZ, Texas                      AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska                RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut
JERRY MORAN, Kansas                  BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska                 EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts
DEAN HELLER, Nevada                  TOM UDALL, New Mexico
JAMES INHOFE, Oklahoma               GARY PETERS, Michigan
MIKE LEE, Utah                       TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
RON JOHNSON, Wisconsin               TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia  MAGGIE HASSAN, New Hampshire
CORY GARDNER, Colorado               CATHERINE CORTEZ MASTO, Nevada
TODD YOUNG, Indiana                  JON TESTER, Montana
                       Nick Rossi, Staff Director
                 Adrian Arnakis, Deputy Staff Director
                    Jason Van Beek, General Counsel
                 Kim Lipsky, Democratic Staff Director
              Chris Day, Democratic Deputy Staff Director
                      Renae Black, Senior Counsel
                      
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          SUBCOMMITTEE ON SPACE, SCIENCE, AND COMPETITIVENESS

TED CRUZ, Texas, Chairman            EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts, 
JERRY MORAN, Kansas                    Ranking
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska                 BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
MIKE LEE, Utah                       TOM UDALL, New Mexico
RON JOHNSON, Wisconsin               GARY PETERS, Michigan
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia  TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
CORY GARDNER, Colorado               MAGGIE HASSAN, New Hampshire

























                            C O N T E N T S

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Hearing held on June 6, 2018.....................................     1
Statement of Senator Cruz........................................     1
Statement of Senator Markey......................................     2
Statement of Senator Nelson......................................     3

                               Witnesses

Michael T. Suffredini, Chief Executive Officer and President, 
  Axiom Space, Inc...............................................     6
    Prepared statement...........................................     8
Bob Mitchell, President, Bay Area Houston Economic Partnership...    11
    Prepared statement...........................................    13
Jim Chilton, Senior Vice President, Space and Launch, Boeing 
  Defense, Space and Security, The Boeing Company................    15
    Prepared statement...........................................    17
Cynthia Bouthot, Director, Commercial Innovation and Sponsored 
  Programs, Center for the Advancement of Science in Space 
  (CASIS)........................................................    21
    Prepared statement...........................................    22

                                Appendix

Response to written questions submitted by Hon. Bill Nelson to:
    Michael T. Suffredini........................................    41
    Bob Mitchell.................................................    42
    Jim Chilton..................................................    43
    Cynthia Bouthot..............................................    44

 
                          EXAMINING THE FUTURE
                  OF THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION:
                        STAKEHOLDER PERSPECTIVES

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                        WEDNESDAY, JUNE 6, 2018

                               U.S. Senate,
           Subcommittee on Space, Science, and Competitiveness,    
        Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:17 p.m., in 
room SR-253, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Ted Cruz, 
Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Cruz [presiding], Gardner, Markey, 
Nelson, and Hassan.

              OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. TED CRUZ, 
                    U.S. SENATOR FROM TEXAS

    Senator Cruz. Good afternoon. This hearing is called to 
order. Welcome to all the witnesses. Thank you for being here.
    Today's hearing is the second in a series of hearings 
focused on the future of the International Space Station. 
During the previous hearing, this subcommittee received 
testimony from government witnesses who cast considerable doubt 
on the administration's proposal to end Federal support of the 
International Space Station in 2025. In our hearing, not only 
did NASA confirm that the International Space Station has 
operational life through at least 2028, if not longer, but 
NASA's Inspector General raised significant concerns that it is 
not only quite unlikely that a private entity or entities would 
assume the Station's annual operating costs, but also, quote, 
``Any assumption that ending direct Federal funding would free 
up $3 billion to $4 billion in 2025 for use on other NASA 
initiatives is wishful thinking.'' I agree with the concerns 
that NASA's Inspector General has raised to this Subcommittee.
    The concerns and the confirmation from NASA that the ISS 
has operational life well beyond 2025 should not be taken 
lightly by members of this Committee or by the National Space 
Council.
    American taxpayers have invested roughly $100 billion in 
the International Space Station, and it is my firm belief that 
it would be irresponsible for the United States Government to 
prematurely end the life of the International Space Station 
before maximizing American taxpayer investment. We should not 
throw away that very significant investment of resources from 
the taxpayers and also from our allies.
    It is concerning that some have argued during this debate 
that the rationale for ending direct funding of the ISS is that 
the United States cannot afford both continued ISS operations 
and deep space exploration at the same time. I disagree that 
this is an either/or decision. And Congress has demonstrated a 
strong bipartisan commitment to NASA and to our human 
spaceflight programs through significant increases in 
appropriations over the last several fiscal years to ensure 
both a healthy low-Earth orbit and deep-space exploration 
program.
    What's clear is, we cannot afford to continue to pursue 
policies that have the consequences of creating gaps in 
capability or that send three and a half billion dollars in 
taxpayer money to the Russian government because we failed to 
plan to have adequate tools to reach low-Earth orbit, nor can 
we create a leadership vacuum in low-Earth orbit that provides 
a window of opportunity for the Chinese to capitalize upon as 
they look to have an operational space station in low-Earth 
orbit in 2022.
    As long as I am Chairman of the Space Subcommittee, the ISS 
will continue to have strong and bipartisan support in the U.S. 
Senate. The past several years, we have passed two major pieces 
of space legislation, working cooperatively, Republicans and 
Democrats, in support of space, one that was signed by 
President Obama, one that was signed by President Trump. The 
purpose of today's hearing is to receive testimony from 
nongovernmental ISS stakeholders who can provide Congress with 
their firsthand experience interacting with the ISS and what 
the impact would be for commercial stakeholders, even those 
looking at building a successor to the ISS, which we will need 
one day, but we should not prematurely disregard the investment 
we have made into it.
    I look forward to our witnesses' testimony and will now 
recognize our Subcommittee's Ranking Member, Senator Markey, 
for his opening statement.

               STATEMENT OF HON. EDWARD MARKEY, 
                U.S. SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS

    Senator Markey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, very much.
    Today, a trio of astronauts from the United States, Russia, 
and Europe blasted off for the International Space Station. 
But, if the Trump administration has its way, in just a few 
short years, that sort of mission might not be possible. The 
International Space Station is the lone platform in low-Earth 
orbit on which our astronauts can undertake fundamental 
research for humankind's health, well-being, and prosperity in 
space. We continue to push deeper into our solar system, but 
the Space Station remains of paramount importance.
    Construction of the Space Station began in 1998, in 
cooperation with the Russian, Canadian, European, and Japanese 
space industries. Continuously occupied for almost two decades, 
the scientific research executed onboard the Space Station has 
given us unique insights from many stakeholders, and produced 
countless valuable results. Because of the International Space 
Station, we better understand the basic physics of our planet, 
have developed antimicrobial vaccines, and are improving 
cancer-fighting drugs. Yet, in February, the Trump 
administration announced that it would end direct funding to 
the International Space Station after 2024, turning it into a 
privately run entity. Although many stakeholders have voiced 
support for a long-term transition to a privately run Space 
Station, they are fearful of the lights going out as a result 
of the Trump administration's proposal. We simply cannot pull 
the plug on the International Space Station without a plan in 
place for what comes next.
    As we work to put humankind back on the Moon and onto the 
Martian surface for the first time, as well as to open up new 
commercial and telecommunications opportunities in space, it is 
crucial to understand the many dangers which we face. The 
International Space Station is the only platform in existence 
on which we can research how the harsh conditions of space 
affect the human body and mind. In fact, NASA has declared that 
an on-orbit platform like the Space Station is absolutely 
necessary to research the impacts of the majority of risks to 
human health that exist as we venture deeper into space.
    If we really want to go where no one has gone before, we 
need the International Space Station to not go away. 
Outstanding universities, like MIT, the University of Florida, 
Texas A&M, in partnership with the National Science Foundation 
and the National Institutes of Health and companies across the 
Nation, are all undertaking fundamental scientific research 
through the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. 
This research can only be done in a microgravity environment 
like the International Space Station. Putting an end to direct 
funding for the Space Station after 2024 would seriously 
interrupt, if not completely end, the scientific research that 
is critical for building a commercial market in space. It would 
spell serious trouble for both NASA and the commercial space 
industry. We cannot afford to allow funding for the Space 
Station to crater in 2025.
    What we need is a nuanced transition plan for the next 
great space age that carefully reflects the commercial market 
and the space community's needs. But, that is not what this 
administration has put forward. The International Space Station 
is an irreplaceable facility for science and human exploration 
in space. It is an interplanetary incubator fostering 
discovery, focusing imagination, and supporting achievement. It 
builds goodwill and good discoveries at the same time.
    I look forward to continuing to work with the Chairman and 
my colleagues, led by Senator Nelson on a bipartisan basis, to 
ensure that the International Space Station can continue to 
house the research that inspires the world and promotes 
progress.
    And we thank the witnesses for being here, and we look 
forward to your testimony.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Cruz. Thank you, Senator Markey.
    We'd now like to recognize Senator Nelson, the Ranking 
Member of the Full Committee, if he would care to make an 
opening statement.

                STATEMENT OF HON. BILL NELSON, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM FLORIDA

    Senator Nelson. Thank you.
    Just to undergird the remarks already made by the Chairman 
and the Ranking Member of the Subcommittee, I might note that 
this November marks 20 years since the Russians launched the 
Zarya module, and then NASA launched the Unity module two weeks 
later, and so began the assembly of the International Space 
Station.
    Now we're on a new age, golden age, for this incredible 
structure in space, the ISS, because Boeing and SpaceX are set 
to begin launching crew from the Cape. That's going to allow us 
to increase the number of astronauts aboard the Station and 
dramatically increase the amount of research conducted. And, of 
course, all of NASA's centers have come together too, from the 
astronauts trained at Johnson that launched at Kennedy to the 
experiments prepared and assembled in final form at Kennedy, to 
ensure that the ISS is performing well. The ISS ought to keep 
going to 2030, because now is the time to reap the benefits of 
all the effort and all the expense that we have to build the 
ISS. And now let's do the research on it. There's a broad 
bipartisan consensus to keep it going and not to have this 
arbitrary date that's going to cutoff after 2024.
    Why in the world would you want to take a large, multiyear 
investment of $100 billion and suddenly de-orbit it and let it 
burn up on reentry? What about the commercial crew and the 
cargo capabilities that we've been investing so heavily in? 
What would happen to them if there's no certainty that they're 
going to have a destination, even though we have other space 
stations that are in the planning stage?
    I can tell you one group of people that understand this, 
and that's the Chinese. It's no accident that, within a few 
months of the administration's proposal to end the Space 
Station in 2025, the Chinese announced that their space station 
will soon be open for business. And just last week, they 
invited countries from around the world to conduct research 
aboard their space station. And they advertise a lot of 
capabilities--medical sample analysis, combustion science, 
freezers, a science glove box--all of which are very similar to 
what we have on the ISS. So, at one point in the future, we may 
have low-Earth orbit filled with commercial space stations 
serving NASA and other government and private-sector customers. 
And then NASA is going to be doing what it needs to do, which 
is, get out beyond low-Earth orbit and explore the heavens. 
But, the ISS is not an obstacle to that. It can be 
complementary.
    Thank you all for holding this hearing. I appreciate it. We 
are very fortunate to have a panel of experts, as we do today.
    Thank you.
    Senator Cruz. Thank you, Senator Nelson.
    And I'll make a point to observers that one of the things 
that I think is striking across the opening statements--there 
are many issues on which Senator Markey, Senator Nelson, and I 
might disagree, but when you have unanimity across the partisan 
spectrum, across the ideological spectrum, when you're hearing 
the exact same thing from conservative Republicans and liberal 
Democrats, that the ISS----
    Senator Markey. And moderate Democrats. Moderate Democrats.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cruz. I will let folks self-identify as they 
choose.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cruz. I didn't say ``nutcase lefties.'' I kept it--
everyone can self-identify on that spectrum.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cruz. And even our friendly Libertarians in 
Colorado.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cruz. I mean, we've got a full spectrum. And yet, 
what there's agreement across that spectrum is that the ISS is 
a critical asset to the United States of America. It is a 
tremendous asset for scientific research, for innovation, for 
discovery. The American taxpayers have invested $100 billion 
into it. Our allies have invested billions and billions of 
dollars into it. And it would be foolish to waste that 
investment, to cut it short, to invent an arbitrary deadline 
like 2025 and say, ``Never mind that we have additional good, 
productive use out of it. We're going to plunge our head in the 
sand and throw away that asset.'' That is the height of 
foolishness. And this is a message that should be heard. It 
should be heard by every contractor, everyone doing business 
with the ISS, by every researcher who has an idea for a new 
innovation on the ISS, and by our allies, our partners in the 
ISS, that, whatever might be put in an OMB proposal, it remains 
the Congress of the United States that authorizes programs and 
that appropriates programs. When you see bipartisan unanimity 
in support of the ISS, the position of the United States 
Government should be clear and unambiguous. Part of the reason 
why you see that unanimity is because of what we're hearing 
from the leaders at NASA, from the stakeholders, about the 
science and the potential future.
    This panel is an excellent representation of those, with 
deep expertise and knowledge. And so, with that, I'm going to 
introduce each of the four witnesses.
    Mr. Michael Suffredini is the President and CEO of Axiom 
Space. Axiom plans to launch two commercial modules in 2021, 
setting the stage for the first commercial space station in 
low-Earth orbit. Prior to Axiom, Mr. Suffredini served for 10 
years at NASA as the Manager of the International Space 
Station. In that role, Mr. Suffredini spearheaded the 
transition of ISS from development and assembly to research and 
commercial utilization. He managed a 15-nation team and a $3 
billion budget, which was the largest international peacetime 
project in the history of humanity.
    Mr. Bob Mitchell, a longtime friend, is the President of 
the Bay Area Houston Economic Partnership. He has served in 
this role since 2008. When he first joined the Partnership in 
2000, Mr. Mitchell oversaw the statewide implementation of the 
State--Space Alliance Technology Outreach Program. Prior to 
that, Mr. Mitchell gained extensive experience during his 15 
years at Grumman Aerospace Corporation, now known as Northrop 
Grumman. As an executive at Grumman, Mr. Mitchell directed all 
production, engineering, and material operations for the 
Houston facility.
    Mr. Jim Chilton is Senior Vice President of the Space and 
Launch Division of Boeing Defense, Space, and Security. His 
portfolio includes the International Space Station, the CST-100 
Starliner Commercial Crew Vehicle, NASA's space-launch system, 
government and commercial satellite systems, and Boeing's 
participation in United Launch Alliance. Previously, Mr. 
Chilton served as Vice President and Program Manager for 
Exploration Launch Systems and led SLS, Boeing's Heavy-Lift 
Launch Vehicle Program.
    And finally, Ms. Cynthia Bouthot, who is Director of the 
Commercial Innovation and Sponsored Programs at the Center for 
the Advancement of Science in Space, also known as CASIS. Ms. 
Bouthot heads a team of business development professionals that 
focus on generating flight projects for the ISS National Lab in 
the life science, energy, chemicals, materials, clean tech, and 
IT sectors. Prior to her current position, Ms. Bouthot was 
President of the Collaborative Innovation Group, an 
organization focused on providing the tools and methodologies 
to establish successful product offerings, developing efficient 
routes to market, and building image and brand.
    With that, we'll start the testimony. We'll begin with you, 
Mr. Suffredini.

     STATEMENT OF MICHAEL T. SUFFREDINI, CHIEF EXECUTIVE
          OFFICER AND PRESIDENT, AXIOM SPACE, INC.

    Mr. Suffredini. Ranking Member Nelson, Chairman Cruz, 
Ranking Member Markey, and members of the Subcommittee, thank 
you for inviting me to give my perspective on the future of the 
International Space Station, and specifically the transition to 
a vibrant, robust marketplace in low-Earth orbit.
    From 2005 to 2015, as NASA's ISS Program Manager, I oversaw 
the development, assembly, operation, utilization of the 
International Space Station for the United States Government 
and the 14 other countries who participated in the program. I 
retired after 27 years of government service, and later 
cofounded Axiom Space, whose goal is to build, launch, and 
operate the world's first commercial space station. With 
decades of engineering, operations, and management experience 
in human spaceflight, we are uniquely equipped to take the 
baton from the remarkably successful ISS to continue its legacy 
in LEO and facilitate the extension of America's leadership 
among spacefaring nations, but the handoff must be accomplished 
carefully.
    I see several key elements of a successful transition 
strategy. First, as NASA begins its human spaceflight focus and 
budget from LEO to deeper space exploration, one concept must 
remain inviable. The United States must not relinquish 
uninterrupted access to LEO for its astronauts. I have detailed 
in my written testimony the work that is either underway or 
planned for the ISS that will need to be continued indefinitely 
in LEO to support sustained human deep-space exploration. But, 
as important as those activities are, the principal argument 
for the U.S. to maintain uninterrupted access to, and a 
destination in, LEO is intangible to safeguard our position as 
the world's preeminent spacefaring nation. We hold that 
position today, thanks, in no small part, to our leadership of 
the ISS partnership. But, other countries, like Russia, China, 
and even Europe, are taking leadership steps, in the absence of 
a strong American commitment to exploration, and the end of the 
ISS represents an opportunity for them to fill the void. 
Sending astronauts to a LEO platform will always appeal to 
nation-states. It is, therefore, imperative that there be no 
gap in access between the platform of today, the ISS, and its 
American commercial successor.
    Second, NASA must allow companies to compete for the right 
to attach one or more modules to the ISS as soon as possible. 
While it's certainly possible to develop and launch a free-
flying commercial space station, there are numerous advantages, 
both for the commercial provider and the government, to 
starting one or more modules mated to a port on the ISS. These 
advantages are also outlined in my written testimony.
    A NASA Request for Information in the summer of 2016 
solicited information on the commercialization of LEO, the 
potential business case, and the criteria to grant access to an 
ISS port. This RFI was intended to inform a follow-on 
announcement opportunity which, itself, would result in 
granting access to an ISS port to a commercial entity. Now, 
almost two years later, a NASA research announcement was 
released, soliciting proposals to study commercialization of 
LEO. These studies are not due until the end of the calendar 
year. If the resultant studies are used only to inform a 
competitive port-reward process, it is unlikely that access to 
a port will be granted before 2020. The award of a birthing 
port is the first dominant must-follow in a chain of events, 
each of which relying on the previous, that will lead to a 
viable commercial platform in LEO and confidence that the 
Nation is ready to transition its human LEO activities from ISS 
to commercial operators. Therefore, NASA should announce a fair 
and open competition for the right to use an ISS birthing port 
in parallel with, rather than following, the NRA studies.
    Finally, the FY 2019 President's budget includes $150 
million for LEO commercial development. As the head of a 
commercial space-station company might reasonably expect, I 
would like to receive some of that money to put toward module 
development. I do not. These resources should be utilized to 
foster increased LEO demand, to award contracts for development 
of hardwares, to put NASA funding and its extensive development 
requirements in the critical path for success and threatens to 
hold the agency hostage in the event the awardee would need 
more money to complete their design. NASA should give priority 
to companies who raise their own capital. These firms will be 
incentivized to help grow LEO demand beyond merely the 
government customer. Their survival will depend on it.
    The only way for NASA to eventually divert much of the 
almost $3.5 billion that it's spending today on ISS to deep-
space exploration is by not owning a LEO infrastructure or 
becoming an anchored tenant. A truly commercial platform will 
succeed only if it has multiple customers, both private and 
government. Public-private partnership in this case work best 
when the public promotes expansion of the demand and the 
private spends its own capital to satisfy it.
    In summary, we cannot afford for the transition, the United 
States human presence in LEO, from the ISS to one or more U.S. 
commercial platforms to be unsuccessful. Ensuring continued 
access to a LEO platform for our astronauts will maintain our 
position as the world's leading spacefaring nation. To achieve 
this in a manner that will allow the most timely transition, 
NASA must issue an opportunity for companies to compete for the 
ISS port as soon as possible. Finally, any funding made 
available to NASA to help develop commercial capability in LEO 
should be spent on building demand.
    I look forward to answering questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Suffredini follows:]

  Prepared Statement of Michael T. Suffredini, Chief Executive Office 
                    and President, Axiom Space, Inc.
                    
    Dear Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Markey and Members of the 
Subcommittee,

    From 2005 to 2015, as NASA's International Space Station (ISS) 
program manager, I oversaw the development, assembly, operation and 
utilization of the International Space Station (ISS), for the United 
States government and the other 14 nations invested in the program. I 
retired after 27 years of government service, and later co-founded 
Axiom Space, whose goal is to build, launch and operate the world's 
first commercial space station. We are dedicated to making living and 
working in Earth orbit commonplace, as a means to sustained human deep 
space exploration. We plan to build a commercial successor to the ISS, 
first attaching our modules to it, and then ultimately separating from 
it when ISS is retired. We have an extraordinary team of seasoned space 
and business professionals. With decades of engineering, operations and 
management experience in human spaceflight, we are uniquely equipped to 
take the baton from the remarkably successful ISS, continue its legacy 
in low Earth orbit (LEO) and facilitate the extension of America's 
leadership among spacefaring nations.
    Throughout the course of modern history, it has been the role of 
governments to open new frontiers. The Catholic Kings financed the 
voyage of Cristopher Columbus that ultimately discovered the New World. 
President Thomas Jefferson commissioned the expedition of Lewis and 
Clark that began the westward expansion in the United States. When the 
risk--personal or financial--is high, and the reward uncertain and/or 
many years into the future, it is appropriate for governments to expend 
state resources in the interest of their citizens. Once security is 
established, a market is identified and revenue appears nearer term, it 
is likewise appropriate for state actors to step aside in favor of 
entrepreneurs, and to allow commerce to develop. Human presence in LEO 
is ripe for such a transition; adhering to the following strategic 
elements will provide the highest likelihood of a successful evolution 
to a vibrant and robust commercial marketplace in LEO.

Ensure Continuous Access to LEO
    As NASA begins to shift its human spaceflight focus--and, by 
necessary consequence, its budget--from LEO to exploration of cis-lunar 
space, one concept must remain inviolable: In order to preserve our 
leadership in space, the United States must not relinquish 
uninterrupted access to LEO for its astronauts. Needless to say, this 
includes both a way to get there, and an orbiting platform on which to 
continue the important activities underway today aboard the ISS.
    Human deep space exploration will require the continuation of 
several tasks that are either already underway or planned for execution 
aboard the ISS. One is continued research into understanding the 
responses of the human body to the space environment. NASA's Human 
Research Program has been very successful in retiring many risks toward 
a notional Mars flyby mission, but one set of investigations that is 
not scheduled to be complete before ISS retirement, even assuming a 
retirement of 2028, is on the effects of space radiation exposure.\1\ 
Secondly, microgravity can negatively affect machines as well as man. 
The ISS has suffered the unexpected failure on-orbit of systems that 
were thoroughly tested on the ground. Some broke down in the first few 
hours of operation; others after months of successful run time. With 
these systems in LEO, while neither simple nor inexpensive, the 
logistics involved with repairing them were relatively straightforward. 
Ultimately, the crew was always a short flight back to Earth if the 
repairs were not successful. However, in a distant lunar retrograde 
orbit--or, worse, on the way to Mars--such logistics would be orders of 
magnitude more complex, if not impossible. For this reason, it is 
imperative that critical hardware be thoroughly tested in LEO before 
such systems are deployed to deep space, and a platform on which to do 
so is crucial. The need for this capability in LEO will be continuous 
for a sustainable human exploration program because as new technologies 
are developed to better serve exploration, the technology and the 
resultant systems will need to be thoroughly tested in LEO before being 
deployed on missions further from our planet. Finally, current plans 
for NASA's Lunar Orbiter Platform-Gateway reflect no more than annual 
crewed missions of 30-day duration with astronauts from several 
participating countries. This cadence will severely strain NASA's 
ability to maintain an experienced and proficient astronaut corps. A 
readily accessible LEO destination will be a vital proving ground where 
astronauts can gain valuable spaceflight experience in preparation for 
more challenging deep space missions.
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    As important as the considerations of human research, critical 
systems hardware testing and astronaut proficiency are, the principal 
argument for the U.S. to maintain uninterrupted access to and a 
destination in LEO is intangible--to safeguard our position as the 
world's preeminent spacefaring nation. We are clearly in that position 
today, thanks to our leadership of the ISS partnership. But with Europe 
having expressed its pivot toward the Moon before us, and the impending 
launch of China's Tiangong-2 space station, our place at the head of 
the class may be in jeopardy. The mission sequence planned today for 
human deep space exploration--which may not begin for close to a 
decade--may not be of sufficient frequency or duration to maintain the 
interest of other nations. But there will always be useful work to do 
aboard a LEO platform that will appeal to nation states with 
astronauts. It is therefore imperative that there be no gap in access 
between the platform of today--the ISS--and its American commercial 
successor.

Award the Port
    While it is certainly possible to develop and launch a free-flying 
commercial space station, there are numerous advantages to starting 
with one or more modules attached to the ISS, and then to separate them 
prior to the lowering of the ISS altitude in preparation for its 
deorbit. With modules attached to the ISS, a company can use revenue 
generated from their utilization to offset capital requirements and 
consequent investment needs. More importantly, such an arrangement 
would allow a commercial operator more time to establish a viable 
customer base, and would permit NASA to transition not only research 
that is underway on ISS, along with attendant hardware, but also that 
of National Lab customers. Being able to transfer useful research and 
manufacturing hardware from ISS to a new platform on orbit when ISS is 
retired will save significant costs (avoiding having to rebuild and 
launch new hardware), ensure the ISS is utilized to the maximum extent 
possible even as it nears retirement, and perhaps most importantly, 
protect the LEO marketplace that will have developed at that point. 
Finally, NASA will have less insight into the design and development of 
commercially provided modules; having them attached to ISS for a period 
of time will give NASA and other ISS partner government space agencies 
an opportunity to gain experience not only with the modules but with 
how their commercial provider operates and protects the crew and 
spacecraft. There is clear benefit to both the government and to the 
commercial space station developer to attach one or modules to the ISS 
via one of its berthing ports.
    In the summer of 2016, NASA issued the Sources Sought solicitation 
``Advancing Economic Development in Low Earth Orbit via Commercial Use 
of Limited Availability, Unique International Space Station 
Capabilities.'' In it, NASA stated:

        NASA will use the results of this RFI to guide development of a 
        possible future announcement of opportunity appropriate to the 
        Agency's objective of fostering a self-sustaining commercial 
        marketplace in LEO. NASA is seeking industry ideas to stimulate 
        economic development through the use of unique ISS capabilities 
        such as unused common berthing mechanism (CBM) attachment 
        ports, non-standard attachment sites or any other capability 
        which can be used in a way not previously envisioned.\2\
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    \2\ Federal Business Opportunities, Advancing Economic Development 
in Low Earth Orbit via Commercial Use of Limited Availability, Unique 
International Space Station Capabilities

    Responders were given six weeks to respond. Now, almost two years 
later, industry is still waiting for the ``announcement of 
opportunity.'' In the meantime, in its FY 2019 President's Budget, the 
Administration has expressed a desire to defund the ISS as early as 
2025, rather than the date presumed by many of 2028. These two events 
combine to reduce the time available for developing a robust, 
commercial market in LEO by up to five years. And the clock is still 
ticking. NASA recently released a Research Announcement (NRA) for the 
``Study for the Commercialization of Low Earth Orbit.'' This 
solicitation ``. . . grants no rights for use of or guarantee of any 
ISS port obligation.'' \3\ With the NRA schedule showing awardees being 
selected in June or July, contracts to be finalized in August, and 
study products due in December 2018,\4\ if these studies will be used 
only to inform the aforementioned announcement of opportunity to 
compete for the berthing port, it is reasonable to expect the awarding 
of the port will occur no earlier than 2020.
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    \3\ NASA Solicitation and Proposal Integrated Review and Evaluation 
System, Study for Commercialization of Low Earth Orbit, Announcement, 
p. 8
    \4\ NASA Solicitation and Proposal Integrated Review and Evaluation 
System, Study for Commercialization of Low Earth Orbit, Industry Day 
Charts, p. 15
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    It is difficult to imagine that an investor would commit a 
significant outlay--the kind necessary to build one or more space 
station modules--to a commercial company that doesn't have access to an 
ISS berthing port. The start of construction, which will take several 
years to complete, depends on this investment, which in turn depends on 
the award of a berthing port. Once the module(s) is complete, it must 
be launched, berthed and integrated with the ISS. And, of course, all 
of this must occur before any customer could utilize the module. So, 
the award of a berthing port to a company is the first domino that must 
fall in a chain of events, each of which relying on the previous, that 
will lead to a sound decision that the Nation is ready to transition 
its human LEO activities from the ISS to one or more commercial 
operators. Each day NASA delays this port award, it correspondingly 
postpones the moment when it can reasonably shift its ISS operations 
budget to that of deep space exploration.
    A much more efficient course of action would be for NASA to 
announce a fair and open competition for the right to use the ISS Node 
2 forward berthing port in parallel with, rather than following, the 
NRA studies. NASA could establish criteria for the port solicitation 
utilizing the considerable information provided in response to the 
summer 2016 ``Advancing Economic Development in Low Earth Orbit via 
Commercial Use of Limited Availability, Unique International Space 
Station Capabilities'' RFI, which reportedly resulted in responses from 
19 industry partners. When the reports awarded through the ``Study for 
the Commercialization of Low Earth Orbit'' NRA are submitted at the end 
of this calendar year, NASA would verify the consistency between those 
studies and their competitive process, make any adjustments necessary 
as a result, and could be ready to award use of the berthing port to a 
company within a month or two, rather than only then commencing to 
develop a process to award the port. The parallel approach could save 
up to a year, accelerating by the same amount the investment necessary 
to build the successor to the ISS, and ultimately advancing the moment 
when a viable commercial platform would allow NASA to shift its focus 
from LEO infrastructure sustainment and operation to deep space 
exploration.

Build Demand
    The FY 2019 President's Budget includes $150M for LEO Commercial 
Development. As a commercial space station company, you might 
reasonably expect that Axiom would like to receive some of that money 
to put toward design and building of one or more modules. We do not. To 
award contracts for development of hardware is to put NASA funding and 
extensive development requirements in the critical path for success, 
and threatens to hold the Agency hostage in the event the awardee would 
need more money to complete their design and build. Although the 
Commercial Orbital Transportation System agreements and follow-on 
Commercial Resupply Services contracts were both innovative and 
successful, NASA is the only customer for those services, and without 
its funding, the companies would surely discontinue manufacture of the 
Dragon and Cygnus spacecraft. To avoid being put in the same posture 
when it comes to a commercial orbital platform, NASA should give 
priority to companies who raise their own capital, instead of asking 
for government funding. These firms will be more incentivized to 
succeed and therefore to grow LEO demand beyond merely the government 
customer; their survival will depend on it. The only way for NASA to 
eventually divert much of the almost $3.5B that it's spending today on 
ISS to deep space exploration is by NOT being the anchor tenant. A 
truly commercial platform will succeed only if it has multiple 
customers--both private and government. In the short term, NASA's role 
should be limited to making unique ISS resources available for 
potential commercial partners, and to stimulating demand for on-orbit 
services. When NASA is the only customer, there is no driver to create 
demand. Public-private partnerships in this case work best when the 
public promotes expansion of the demand, and the private spends its own 
capital to satisfy it.
    It is important for NASA to be judicious in selecting its partners 
for commercial development of LEO. Since the ISS cannot support more 
than one large commercial station provider, NASA should pick the one 
that has the best chance of success, based on the technical merit of 
their design, the soundness of their business case, and the pedigree of 
their team. It should also acknowledge that demand will be, at least in 
the beginning, limited. Picking more partners than there is demand to 
satisfy will result in the failure of the market for LEO services to 
develop. This further highlights the imperative that NASA use whatever 
funding it receives for LEO commercial development to stimulate demand, 
and limit supply side help to the right to use unique ISS capabilities, 
such as a berthing port.

Don't Compete with Industry
    Finally, one of the principal revenue streams that commercial space 
station companies are pursuing is human spaceflight for astronauts from 
other nations. The ISS partnership distributes flight opportunities 
based on each partner's contribution to the project. Outside of these 
allocations, NASA should not also offer flights to other nations either 
inside or outside the ISS partnership, as this directly competes with 
the offerings of commercial companies and would severely diminish the 
addressable market available to them today. This would not only be in 
violation of National Space Policy,\5\ it would be counterproductive to 
the development of a sustainable commercial market for LEO services.
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2010, p. 10
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    In summary, we cannot afford for the transition of the United 
States' human presence in LEO from the ISS to one or more U.S. 
commercial platforms to be unsuccessful. Ensuring continued access to a 
LEO platform for our astronauts will maintain our position as the 
world's leading spacefaring nation. Second, to achieve this transition 
in a manner that allows the resources currently being allocated to ISS 
to be eventually diverted toward human deep space exploration, NASA 
must issue an opportunity for companies to compete for the ISS berthing 
port as soon as possible. Third, any funding made available to NASA to 
help develop a commercial capability in LEO should be spent on building 
demand. Finally, NASA should be mindful of not competing with industry.

    Senator Cruz. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Mitchell.

        STATEMENT OF BOB MITCHELL, PRESIDENT, BAY AREA
                HOUSTON ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP

    Mr. Mitchell. Thank you. Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member 
Nelson, and Ranking Member Markey, thank you for the 
opportunity today to be here to testify on the important topic 
of the International Space Station.
    I serve as the President of the Bay Area Houston Economic 
Partnership, the member-driven 501(c)(6) nonprofit economic 
development organization located just outside the gates of the 
Johnson Space Center. We have over 268 members, which include a 
diverse mix of businesses in aerospace, medical, life sciences, 
petrochemicals, and maritime. We also are proud to work on 
initiatives that contribute to the economic growth of the 13 
cities and two counties in and around the Johnson Space Center. 
Although aerospace companies make up a fraction of our 
membership, the entire business community understands and 
values the contributions of NASA and the space community in 
making all of our lives better.
    The ISS is a critical element of the work performance in 
Houston at the Johnson Space Center and the backbone to 
maintaining a number of key elements of our success in human 
spaceflight--the astronaut corps, Mission Control, countless 
technical resources, and world class researchers. The Johnson 
Space Center offers unparalleled national capability that has 
been built over decades of experience. The loss of, or 
weakening of, its capabilities would have dramatic implications 
to our outcomes in deep-space exploration.
    The return on investment of the ISS can be calculated many 
ways. It's difficult to quantify the exact dollar value of many 
of these returns, but the overall impact is undeniable. The 
International Space Station, by its design has established the 
foundation for sustained generation of technology that improves 
life on Earth. Each year, spinoffs, like new drugs, materials, 
scientific technology, become licensed and begin generating new 
revenue streams for companies, large and small.
    Beyond the abilities show the ROI, ISS positions us to 
tackle the challenge of deep space, buying down cost and risk 
now and to give missions to the Moon and Mars a headstart. The 
Station is a critical, inexpensive testbed for exploration and 
hardware that needs to work perfectly on its first live 
mission. It allows us to test, tweak, and perfect life-support 
systems, radiation abatement methods, and other advanced 
materials. These breakthroughs will eventually make it from 
launch pad into our homes and businesses across America.
    Through engagement with the Russian Space Agency and 13 
other ISS partners, the U.S. has led an era of peaceful 
collaboration and exploration that has provided stability in 
space leading to the current level of space commercialization. 
The commitment to the ISS, uninterrupted for the last 25 years, 
has provided more than just a destination to space. The ISS has 
cultivated a cultural learning lab for diplomacy, education, 
and inspiration, a learning lab for technology applications, 
testing performance machines, materials, and humans in space, a 
science lab for comparing terrestrial knowledge in a new 
frontier in weightlessness, a lab for exploring both on Earth 
and outer space in preparation for the next exploration 
endeavors.
    I think it's important to take a detailed look at the 
overall ISS budget, which is often cited at around 3 and a half 
to 4 billion dollars per year. What is misleading about this 
statement is that the commercial crew and cargo programs are 
funded out of those funds along with overhead cost at the 
centers housing the programs. The real ISS budget is a fraction 
of that total cost, ranging from 1 to 1.5 billion dollars per 
year. Saving this much each year will have minimal impact on 
overall exploration efforts, in terms of funds transfer. 
Commercial alternatives would likely cost significantly more 
than sustaining the ISS, essentially creating an entirely new 
development program while providing a fraction of the existing 
capabilities.
    If the U.S. Government terminates its support of the ISS in 
2025 and we step away from the ISS before an equivalent long-
term engagement is created, there will be a disruption in the 
space program in an emerging commercial industry. Not very long 
ago, NASA's Constellation Program was canceled at the same time 
we retired the Space Shuttle Program, which profoundly had a 
negative impact on America's leadership in space. I sincerely 
hope that we all learned a valuable lesson from this and trust 
that you will not allow history to repeat itself.
    My position is that the U.S. Government should commit to 
the ISS for as long as it safely feasible to do so. However, as 
we succeed, others look to follow. As you probably have seen, 
just last week, China invited other nations to partner with 
them on their space station. They realize, as we do, the power 
of these partnerships and the leadership and the technology 
that can be gained from them. As we question our commitment to 
the future of the ISS, the Chinese space program is actively 
seeking to leverage this moment in time to provide an 
alternative path and platform for our traditional international 
space partners. This has very serious implications for our 
national security, trade, technology partnerships, and 
leadership if this is not managed carefully.
    At the end of the day, the ISS program is the culmination 
of all the reasons we are so passionate about the entire space 
program. It represents America's future in global leaderships, 
education, innovation, healthcare, and the quality of life.
    Thank you for the invitation to speak on this topic, and I 
look forward to questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Mitchell follows:]

            Prepared Statement of Bob Mitchell, President, 
                 Bay Area Houston Economic Partnership

Introduction
    Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Nelson, distinguished members of the 
Committee:

    Thank you for the opportunity to be here today and to testify on 
the important topic of the International Space Station.
    I serve as the president of the Bay Area Houston Economic 
Partnership, a member-driven, 501(c)(6) nonprofit economic development 
organization located just outside the gates of the Johnson Space Center 
in Bay Area Houston. We have over 268 members, which include a diverse 
mix of businesses in aerospace, medical, life sciences, petrochemicals, 
and maritime. We also are proud to work on initiatives that contribute 
to the economic growth of the 13 cities and two counties in the area 
around the Johnson Space Center. Although aerospace companies make up a 
fraction of our membership, the entire business community understands 
and values the contributions of NASA and the space community in making 
all of our lives better.
    The International Space Station (ISS) is a critical element of the 
work performed in Houston at the NASA Johnson Space Center and the 
backbone to maintaining a number of key elements of our success in 
human spaceflight: the astronaut corps, mission control, countless 
technical resources, and world-class researchers. The Johnson Space 
Center offers an unparalleled national capability that has been built 
over decades of experience. The loss of or weakening of its 
capabilities would have dramatic implications to our outcomes in deep 
space exploration.
    I would like to note our strong appreciation for this committee's 
careful review of any discussion about transitions on the ISS, which 
must be done carefully and thoughtfully as a matter of national policy 
objectives and priorities rather than as a response to short term 
political or budget pressures. As was noted in the hearing with NASA 
last month, going about this transition too quickly could result in the 
loss of these key capabilities and lead to critical gaps in U.S. 
capabilities in space, allowing international competitors to seize such 
moments to usurp American leadership.
    The ISS has achieved remarkable goals in science, diplomacy and 
commercial space market advances, but its work is far from complete. It 
remains as vital a resource today as it has since crews first started 
manning it in November of 2000. There are multitudes of productive 
initiatives left that can only be explored on the station.

Economic Impact
    The technology generated out of ISS research continues to improve 
the quality of human life. NASA literally publishes a book on all of 
the spinoffs each year. New innovations boost our economy and create 
jobs in our communities.
    The ROI on the ISS can be calculated in many ways. It is difficult 
to quantify the exact dollar value of many of these returns, but the 
overall impact is undeniable. The International Space Station--by its 
design and enactment--has established the foundation for sustained 
generation of technology that improves life on earth. Each year, 
spinoffs like new drugs, materials, and scientific technology become 
licensed and begin generating new revenue streams for companies large 
and small.
    Beyond the ability to show an ROI, ISS positions us to tackle the 
challenge of deep space by buying down cost and risk now to give 
missions to the Moon and Mars a head start. The station is a critical, 
inexpensive test bed for exploration hardware that needs to work 
perfectly on its first live mission. It allows us to test, tweak, and 
perfect life support systems, radiation abatement methods, and other 
advanced materials. These breakthroughs will eventually make it from 
the launch pad into our homes and businesses across America.
    Through engagement with the Russian space agency and 13 other ISS 
partners, the U.S. has led an era of peaceful collaboration and 
exploration that has provided stability in space leading to the current 
level of space commercialization. This commitment to ISS--uninterrupted 
for the last 25 years--has provided more than just a destination in 
space. The ISS has cultivated:

   A cultural learning lab for diplomacy, education, and 
        inspiration

   A learning lab for technology applications--testing 
        performance machines, materials, and humans in space

   A science lab for comparing terrestrial knowledge in a new 
        frontier of weightlessness

   A lab for exploring both our earth and outer space in 
        preparation for the next exploration endeavors

    I think it is important to take a detailed look at the overall ISS 
budget, which is often cited at $3B per year. What is misleading about 
that estimate is that the Commercial Crew and Cargo programs are funded 
out of those funds along with overhead costs at the centers housing the 
programs and other expenses. The real ISS budget is a fraction of that 
total cost, ranging from $1B--$1.5B/year. Saving this much each year 
will have a minimal impact on our overall exploration efforts in terms 
of a funds transfer. Commercial alternatives would likely cost 
significantly more than sustaining the ISS, essentially creating an 
entirely new development program, while providing a fraction of the 
existing capabilities.

Leadership
    History will look back at the ISS as the first time the world 
joined together, under American leadership, to build an outpost in 
space. The ISS partner relationships have fostered an invaluable boost 
to diplomacy and global peace and a powerful tool to leverage resources 
for necessary basic research. It remains the most visible symbol of 
NASA and our human spaceflight program, and it is a unique asset that 
should be used to its full extent by the U.S. and its partners.
    However, as we succeed, others look to follow. As you have probably 
seen, just last week China invited other nations to partner with them 
on their space station. They realize, as we do, the power of these 
partnerships and the leadership and the technology that can be gained 
from them. As we question our commitment to the future of ISS, the 
Chinese space program is actively seeking to leverage this moment in 
time to provide an alternative path and platform for our traditional 
international partners in space. This has very serious implications for 
our national security, trade and technology partnerships, and 
leadership if this is not managed carefully.
    If the U.S. Government terminates its support of the ISS in 2025, 
and we step away from ISS before an equivalent long-term engagement is 
created, there will be a disruption in the space program and the 
emerging commercial space industry. Not very long ago, NASA's 
Constellation Program was cancelled at the same time as the retirement 
of the Space Shuttle Program, which had a profoundly negative impact on 
America's leadership position in space. I sincerely hope that we all 
learned a valuable lesson from this and trust that you will not allow 
history to repeat itself! My position is that the U.S. Government 
should commit to the ISS for as long as it is safely feasible to do so.

Conclusion
    Although counter-intuitive, the mere discussion of the end of life 
to the ISS dries up the commercial investments that may one day provide 
a viable revenue alternative. Scientists begin to worry about investing 
time and resources if the endgame is uncertain bringing significant 
challenges to future experiments, and international partners look in 
other directions for leadership to advance their aspirations in space.
    At the end of the day, the ISS program is the culmination of all of 
the reasons we are so passionate about the entire space program--it 
represents America's future in global leadership, education, 
innovation, healthcare, and our quality of life.
    Thank you for the invitation to speak on this topic, and I look 
forward to your questions.

    Senator Cruz. Thank you, Mr. Mitchell.
    Mr. Chilton.

        STATEMENT OF JIM CHILTON, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT,
          SPACE AND LAUNCH, BOEING DEFENSE, SPACE AND
                  SECURITY, THE BOEING COMPANY

    Mr. Chilton. Thank you, Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member 
Nelson, Ranking Member Markey. I'm very grateful for the chance 
to speak here, and also for your leadership over a long period 
on space.
    I'm here representing Boeing, and with great pride, as I 
was once Mike Suffredini's contractor, building and supporting 
a space station. Something I'd like to point out that's been 
said is, humans have been living on orbit for 18 years, which 
means that today's high school students, the kids graduating 
this month, have never had a day in school without people 
living and working aloft. And I support all previous witnesses 
and the Senators who have said we ought to keep permanent human 
presence in low-Earth orbit and for all of humanity.
    Let me talk about Boeing's role. We were the prime system 
developer of the Station from the U.S. operating-segment 
standpoint. That meant we integrated all the international 
partners, as well, because that was fundamentally an American-
led enterprise. That means we created a bunch of industrial 
relationships with international partners. That was good for 
American business, and I think it set a new model.
    It does put us in a role to opine about ISS longevity.
    Some of you may know that we recently conducted a study for 
NASA and concluded, with NASA's approval, that the ISS could 
live, structurally, through 2028. I'd like to point out that 
it's not unusual for a Boeing product to go a lot longer than 
her initial design life. Think about B-52s, where the grandsons 
and daughters of the original pilots are now flying them. 
They're actually better airplanes than they were before. And 
today, the Space Station is a better vehicle than when the 
first modules were hooked together.
    But, the question of longevity is very important for anyone 
who wants to close a business case. Think about buying an 
airplane, where the airworthiness certificate expires in 3 
years. So, it will be important for people to develop opinions 
with facts and data around the long-term life of the Station. 
Ours is that the mid-2030s are eminently reasonable, given the 
history of our product lines.
    Given that, if we assume that, let me talk about a first-
order commercial assessment as an industrial partner to NASA. 
The U.S. operating segment costs the U.S. Government about $3.2 
billion a year. These numbers are approximate. $1.8 billion of 
that, over half, is launch--launch for resupply; $1.1 billion, 
approximately, is ops and sustaining. That's keeping the lights 
on. Boeing addresses about half of that market, a little less 
than half. And, by the way, our cost of doing the same work has 
come down about 30 percent in 10 years, so there has been 
progress, in partnership with NASA. $300 million of this is the 
research and science money, which my colleague and fellow 
witness will address. But, if you add all that up, our 
assessment is, the U.S. operating segment is funded by the 
government at about $3.2 billion a year, and there's about $100 
million of revenue that we've now been able to get across all 
parties on Space Station. And that's a big gap. So, just as an 
industrialist, please consider that some incremental 
capability-based approach may make more market sense than 
absolutely cutting it on a date.
    There are global--well, let me add one more thing. 
Historically, none of the people who generate revenue on the 
Station today pay for launch, raising questions like, Does the 
commercial entity--if this ever happened, if one commercial 
entity operated the Station, do they control the launchers, or 
does the government continue to provide those? I offer that 
question because there are many things to be considered as we 
go forward. But, the difference between $3.2 billion and $100 
million is a lot, commercially. That's a big gap.
    Global considerations have been mentioned, but I would 
argue that ISS paved the way for true interdependency on space 
projects. It is a false choice, in my view, that you have to 
choose between going further into deep space and staying in 
low-Earth orbit. We wouldn't know how to go further into deep 
space if we hadn't learned how to build the Space Station. If 
you believe that humanity is best served doing something 
collaboratively with other nations for deep space, ISS is our 
only model.
    So, we should consider that government funding in the U.S. 
is something that other nations look at. Their governments will 
continue to fund their segments. Capital in their countries 
doesn't flow in the same way that it flows in our country, in 
the way Mr. Suffredini has referenced. So, we should all be 
mindful that we have to harmonize that operating model if we 
would like to retain the option to have international partners 
under our leadership for deep space. So, we shouldn't fall for 
the choice of station or BO. We need Station to prove out BO, 
not just technically, but as an operating model across industry 
and governments.
    So, I'll leave you with--you now know our view, that LEO 
and deeper space are compatible, and we shouldn't be lulled 
into anyone trying to choose that we must do only one or the 
other. So, I would offer a recommendation to use your 
authorities and powers that we should avoid uncertainty for the 
science community. Some of these long-cycle science projects 
take 6 to 8 years lead time. If those researchers who currently 
haven't been paying--some pay, some don't--believe that they 
might get a bill, and they--or they believe that the model 
won't be sound, we could see science dry up soon--this year, 
next year--people on these long-cycle experiments. And we 
should be mindful to signal certainty and incrementalism. We 
should be very careful to, whatever we do, keep a permanent 
human presence in space. We have had times in the U.S. where we 
couldn't get access to space, between Apollo and Shuttle, and 
we're going through one now, between Shuttle--let's not--I 
respectfully suggest we try not to do that with our presence in 
low-Earth orbit.
    And so, when I wrap all that up, the uncertainty could be 
around just picking a time and say everything must change by 
one year. A more incremental capabilities-based approach seems 
more appropriate, from Boeing's perspective.
    Thank you for your time and attention.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Chilton follows:]

  Prepared Statement of Jim Chilton, Senior Vice President, Space and 
     Launch, Boeing Defense, Space and Security, The Boeing Company
     
    Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Nelson, Ranking Member Markey and 
members of the Subcommittee, on behalf of The Boeing Company, thank you 
for the opportunity to testify today to provide Boeing's perspective on 
the future of the International Space Station and pathways to increase 
commercial use of low Earth orbit (LEO). I appreciate your holding last 
month's hearing with NASA and today's hearing with industry and other 
stakeholders to understand the implications of important policy 
decisions before Congress and the Administration that will determine 
the future of American leadership in LEO.
    Mr. Chairman, as you know Boeing is proud to work closely with the 
Johnson Space Center and Mission Operations in Houston where about 
1,000 Boeing employees collaborate with NASA teams to support the 
astronauts, ISS operations and research on a daily basis. And Senator 
Nelson, our Boeing team of more than 400 employees in and around the 
Kennedy Space Center is preparing for launch of the CST-100 Starliner 
later this year and supporting ISS, Space Launch System and the X-37B 
spacecraft.
    On November 2 the world will celebrate 18 years of a continuous 
human presence in space. That means that students graduating high 
school this month with aspirations of one day being part of human 
exploration of deep space . . . will have lived their entire life on 
Earth while men and women continuously orbited above . . . living, 
working and expanding the realm of what's possible in space. In other 
words, they were helping to make those students' dreams a reality.
    The question the subcommittee is considering today has profound 
implications for whether we will continue to have a continuous human 
presence in space for decades to come, if not indefinitely. If we as a 
country make strategic policy decisions at this juncture, future 
generations may celebrate November 2, 2000 as the beginning of 
mankind's permanent presence off Earth.
    The men and women of Boeing are rightfully proud of our company's 
role as NASA's prime contractor for the International Space Station. In 
that capacity, we designed, developed, integrated, tested and delivered 
all U.S.-built elements of the station. We also ensured these elements 
integrated seamlessly with those built by our international partners, a 
tough task given these elements were developed half way across the 
world and only met for the first time on orbit.
    Having created this unique home and laboratory in space, Boeing 
maintains this continued orbital presence as NASA's contractor for 
sustaining engineering for the ISS. We are responsible for maintaining 
the station at peak performance levels to ensure that this invaluable 
and inspirational engineering marvel remains available to NASA, its 
international partners, other U.S. government agencies and private 
companies.
    But today, I am pleased to be here with this distinguished panel to 
talk about ISS sustainment of a different sort. We ask you to use your 
authority to preserve the long-term viability of this vital national 
laboratory, this icon of aerospace engineering, this symbol of an 
international vision for space, for as long as the Station is able to 
operate safely and reliably; even as we work together to return to the 
moon and press beyond into deep space.
    And we believe that ISS mission goes well beyond 2028, ensuring 
that the investment taxpayers and international partners made in 
building the station continue to provide value for many years ahead.
    As you may know, at NASA's request, Boeing performed a study on the 
life of major space station hardware components. Our study shows the 
primary structure can reach 2028 and found no technical showstoppers to 
continued flight beyond 2028. The ISS was designed and built in 
Boeing's robust tradition which has seen spacecraft and aircraft far 
exceed their initial design life. Working with NASA we routinely 
upgrade systems and capabilities. The fact is, the ISS is far more 
capable now than it was even seven years ago. And with the NASA-Boeing 
team focused on operations 24-7-365 we are able to operate in a mindset 
of continuous improvement for safety and reliability.
    It's important to add that Boeing continues to work with NASA to 
reduce the costs of sustaining the International Space Station. In 
fact, over the past 10 years, we have reduced the costs to our 
sustaining role by more than 30 percent.
    Notice that I said ``technical showstoppers.'' Unfortunately, we do 
see that this potential extended life could be compromised due to 
premature discussions about terminating the program or withdrawing U.S. 
funding and support.
    Like you, we are concerned by consideration of ending direct 
government funding of ISS in 2025, creating an uncertain future for 
this valuable space asset. Uncertainty due to the risk of subjecting 
the station and all that it represents to the hope of a commercial 
space market that may not have a chance to take shape in seven years--
risking reduction of elimination of research and science, and even 
America's leadership role in LEO should viable commercial alternatives 
not materialize.
    Before considering this policy question, let's take a look at what 
the ISS represents. . .
    The ISS is--by far--the largest spacecraft in history and 
represents the investment of hundreds of billions of dollars from 15 
nations around the world. It operates 24/7.

ISS Provides a Unique Geopolitical Benefit
    We believe that deep space exploration will only be possible 
through international cooperation, and ISS proved this is best done 
under American leadership. It will require global investment and 
infusion of ideas from a coalition of space-faring nations. The 
International Space Station has proven and will continue to prove that 
it is possible, and it should be our model for our future in LEO as 
well as in deep space as we prepare to launch the Space Launch System 
with NASA and international astronauts on Exploration Missions to the 
Moon in the 2020s. In fact, through current intergovernmental 
agreements, our international partnerships on ISS are directly 
contributing to cost-sharing for exploration, and can be further 
leveraged as we build out the Lunar Orbiting Platform-Gateway and build 
systems for the Moon and Mars.
    It is a model of geopolitical efficiency and tenacity that is far 
from finished in its work to demonstrate the benefits of cooperative 
space exploration. Abandoning the ISS at this time not only risks U.S. 
leadership in space, but also imperils our ability to forge essential 
collaborative political, engineering and scientific relationships 
around the world.
    NASA currently leads the world's space agencies, and is positioned 
to lead a deep-space exploration campaign including international and 
industry partners. Those other space agencies, space-faring nations and 
emerging aspirants like Australia and the United Arab Emirates will not 
abandon their plans if we abdicate our responsibility to lead and 
inspire. Continued operations in low-Earth orbit will be essential for 
them to realize their aspirations in space and provide them the 
incentive and experience to make future contributions as we explore 
deep space.
    If the ISS program is terminated in 2025, then our international 
partners and commercial businesses will look for alternative low Earth 
orbit opportunities. Russia has talked about separating from ISS and 
offering their capabilities to our international partners. China is 
currently building and plans to operate their own space station 
starting in 2022 and is engaging the international community to use it. 
Ending American government support for ISS will have significant 
impacts on our Nation's standing in the world, and weaken U.S. 
influence of the international and commercial communities needed for 
deep space exploration.
    No nation alone can sustainably return humans to the moon and send 
them to Mars--it will take the collective capacity and funding of our 
global partners. If we end our human presence in LEO prior to having a 
steady cadence of human spaceflight missions to deep space, we put at 
risk not only U.S. funding but the support of international partners. 
Also, if the U.S. is not the leader in human spaceflight, other nations 
will assume that leadership role.

ISS Provides Significant Scientific Benefit
    The ISS provides a unique, micro-gravity research capability unlike 
anything else in the world. More than 2,000 experiments have been 
conducted on orbit with the participation of 103 countries. And this 
has contributed to significant breakthrough science. To cite just a 
few:

   The development of osteoporosis drugs available now to treat 
        bone loss

   Clinical trials for treating Duchenne muscular dystrophy

   A vaccine for salmonella

    And currently in work:

   Cancer therapy targeting tumor cells

   Fiber production

   Human organ and tissue manufacturing

   The development of robotic arms to treat inoperable tumors

    If the research and science community sees the ISS future as 
uncertain, planning for future experiments could begin to slow or stop 
as early as this year. These are long cycle endeavors, and not 
commercial in nature. More than 300 experiments are performed every 
month aboard the ISS. These experiments not only contribute to down-to-
earth scientific breakthroughs, but also develop understanding and 
human health and environmental support systems to support future deep 
space missions. It is for these reasons and more that with great wisdom 
and an eye to the long-term future, Congress enacted the 2005 NASA 
Authorization Act that designated the U.S segment of the ISS as a 
national laboratory. National Laboratories, like the ISS, are important 
to delivering world-class research and strengthening the overall 
contribution of the laboratories to the Nation's research enterprise. 
The ISS provides significant benefits here on Earth, and holds the 
potential to expand our economic sphere beyond the Earth's surface.
    It's also important to note that the work being done on ISS 
inspires the next generation of researchers and visionaries. Boeing is 
proud to sponsor the ``Genes in Space'' contest that offers an 
opportunity for middle-school and high school students--future 
researchers and explorers--in the U.S. and around the world, to propose 
actual, meaningful experiments to be performed on orbit, and then 
allows them to see their ideas in action.
    Cutting short this government-supported research in 2025, or 
causing future researchers to wonder whether the ISS will be viable in 
its current science model, risks putting the brakes to much of the 
breakthrough discoveries that could be possible. Even the uncertainty 
of future government involvement puts new science at risk. With average 
lead-time of six to seven years to plan, propose, fund and initiate 
meaningful research projects, scientists and researchers will have 
little choice but to abandon their ideas and look elsewhere. We must 
ensure the science community that their future contributions to life on 
Earth--and in space--will find a lasting home on orbit.

ISS provides significant economic opportunity
    Our advocacy for continued government support for operation of the 
Station does not dismiss the prospects of viable commercial utilization 
of the ISS. We believe there is opportunity on orbit, but that it is 
unlikely to happen with the turn of a switch on a certain date. Total 
ISS reliance on private funding is unlikely to be economically viable 
by 2025 absent significant, if not exclusive, NASA investment and 
anchor tenancy. There will simply not be enough of a space economy in 
place for market forces to drive robust commercial behavior in low-
Earth orbit in that timeframe. There is a good chance that a premature 
termination of ISS could ultimately result in a U.S.-government funded 
LEO platform with less capability, fewer international partners and 
comparable costs. Such a plan could even inhibit the commercial 
development of LEO, without ISS as an anchor without which bigger 
business arrangements would not be viable.
    We don't lack capacity for commercial opportunities with the ISS, 
but the likelihood that those opportunities can fund the entire ISS by 
2025 is very low. Currently NASA funds the U.S. Operating segment of 
the ISS at $3B annually. Commercial revenue is $100M or less. This is 
a big gap. The problem we really need to solve is growing the private 
sector demand for services in space. We are already seeing signs of 
what could be possible where commercialization and investment in the 
ISS capability can seed and foster a sustainable economy in LEO. From 
our vantage point, the Boeing/Nanoracks commercial airlock will enable 
Cubesat and other small satellite deployment from ISS by way of the 
national laboratory. Boeing investment in innovation targets an 
untapped user community of start-ups through business accelerators like 
MassChallenge.
    But the fundamental fact remains and has been pointed out as 
recently as last month's Science and Technology Policy Institute study, 
``it is unlikely that a commercially owned and operated space station 
will be economically viable by 2025.'' Indeed, today, there is less 
than $100 million of revenue generated by commercial companies for 
services aboard the ISS . . . at an annual cost to operate the Station 
of $3.2 billion. Today's commercial LEO destination business case 
relies on continued government funding while other markets around non-
US governments, manufacturing, and private spaceflight participants 
continue to develop. This is unlikely to evolve much more toward a 
viable commercial market by 2025.
    Furthermore, uncertainty about that near-term future discourages 
venture capitalists from substantial investment that leverages the ISS 
as a platform. The U.S. government must continue serve as the anchor 
customer in LEO and, to the greatest extent possible, maintain our 
current international partners to drive global investment to U.S. 
commercial providers serving and using the ISS. With continued 
government support the Station can serve as an incubator to define 
these future commercial opportunities, but the government must still be 
able to rely on the Station for basic scientific research and more 
understanding of what is needed to support deep space missions.

ISS continues to provide significant down-to-Earth economic opportunity
    If economic opportunity is to be the driver of the Space Station's 
future, let's not dismiss the real economic opportunity that has been 
at the heart of development, assembly and operation of the Station for 
over two decades. It's opportunity that continues well into the future.
    Over the past 18 years of human presence on orbit, approximately 
400 suppliers from at least 35 states have supported the Station. Last 
year alone, 227 suppliers have been part of robust economic activity of 
approximately $165 million. With approximately $300 million in annual 
contract expenditures, at least $50 million has been awarded to small 
businesses.
    The ISS program, along with its crew and cargo transportation 
programs, help ensure that NASA maintains critical leadership in 
mission operations, human spaceflight and other competencies that will 
be necessary as we launch upcoming Exploration Missions to the Moon and 
beyond.
    Long-term viability of the Station is essential to sustaining that 
earthbound economic vitality.
    All of these arguments--international collaboration, breakthrough 
science and research, a nascent yet promising commercial space economy, 
earthbound economic vitality, and deep space exploration needs--point 
to a compelling rationale to keep the International Space Station 
operating in a government-funded model through 2025 and on into the 
future.

Recommendation
    While it is very important for the Administration and Congress to 
consider the future of ISS beyond 2024 and how to make greater 
commercial use of this unprecedented platform, we believe that 
proposing a termination date at this time will result in confusion, 
missed opportunities and potentially compromise our permanent human 
presence in space--just at a time when the commercial space ecosystem 
in LEO is starting to develop. It also may compromise planned 
scientific research and result in international partners losing 
confidence in America's commitment to LEO.
    Some have argued that the rationale for ending direct funding of 
the ISS is that the United States cannot afford both continued ISS 
operations and deep space exploration at the same time. We disagree 
that this is an ``either-or'' decision, and Congress has demonstrated 
its commitment to NASA and our human spaceflight programs through 
significant increases in appropriations over the last several Fiscal 
Years to ensure both a healthy LEO and deep space exploration program.
    The retirement of the world-recognized Space Shuttle created a 
misperception in some quarters that NASA was going out of business and 
America was ceding space leadership. It is easy to see how that 
perception could arise. Premature retirement of the Shuttle created a 
seven-year gap in U.S. spaceflight and brought about a $3 billion 
reliance on Russia to carry our astronauts to the ISS, effectively 
leaving control of this vital asset in their hands. At the same time, 
NASA only saw about $500 million shifted to exploration.
    The ISS remains as the foundation for U.S. leadership in the 
international space community, and premature retirement before we have 
established follow-on capabilities and platforms could be even more 
problematic than the void left after Shuttle retirement. As such, NASA 
should develop a plan founded on transition criteria and objectives as 
guidelines rather than an arbitrary decommission date to avoid future 
unintended consequences which could undermine U.S. leadership and 
recent investments in low-Earth orbit. Elements of the plan should 
include, but not be limited to:

   Continued U.S. human presence in LEO to sustain crew and 
        cargo transportation

   Completion of exploration-related research and technology 
        development requiring ISS

   Availability of alternate capability to conduct NASA 
        microgravity research

   Establishment of a human exploration habitation capability 
        in deep space.

   Considerations of ``industrialization'' vs pure 
        commercialization.

    To ensure U.S. leadership in space we need a criteria-based 
approach to the future of the International Space Station, not an 
arbitrary end date. ISS serves an important role for deeper space 
exploration, as a test bed and example of cooperation. The science 
community needs to know ISS will be viable outside a pure commercial 
model, or the science pipeline could begin to dry up soon. Moving 
toward a more efficient industrial model on ISS makes sense if these 
risks can be managed on a criteria based timeline.
    Our generation--soon to include those high-school graduates 
(Generation ISS, if you will)--are demonstrating how we will be able to 
live in space for a half-century.
    Thank you.

    Senator Cruz. Thank you, Mr. Chilton.
    Ms. Bouthot.

        STATEMENT OF CYNTHIA BOUTHOT, DIRECTOR, COMMERCIAL
         INNOVATION  AND  SPONSORED  PROGRAMS,  CENTER FOR
         THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE IN SPACE (CASIS)

    Ms. Bouthot. Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Markey, Ranking 
Member Nelson, thank you for the opportunity to share with you 
my views on the International Space Station.
    Today, I plan on discussing the success we've achieved in 
driving new demand for the ISS National Lab. CASIS is the 
manager of the National Lab and is serving as a bridge from a 
government-driven operation to a commercially sustainable 
marketplace. In this short time, I will describe why demand is 
important to a sustainable LEO marketplace, what has that--what 
is the state of that demand, and how have we been able to build 
it, and, basically, why we need more time.
    An end date was suggested for the ISS National Lab that 
would fully commercialize operations by 2025. We understand 
that commercialization is imminent, and we are fully supporting 
this process. However, to achieve this goal, enough time must 
be given, both for a smooth transition and for the Nation, to 
realize the return on investment to the American taxpayer.
    So, let me start with, Why is building demand important? 
It's the foundation for a sustainable and self-funded LEO 
marketplace. It's the source of revenue for the transportation 
on-orbit providers and services markets, some of my colleagues 
here on the panel. Demand is providing a tangible return on 
investment to the American taxpayer. And finally, the demand 
we're generating right now with research and development is the 
underpinning for eventual manufacturing in space.
    So, what is the state of this demand? Today, more than 55 
percent of our payloads are commercial customers and include 
large programs from iconic Fortune 500 companies as well as 
innovative startups. We have flown more than 175 payloads, and 
have 88 in queue. A majority are new to space, and 20 percent 
are repeat users.
    Work on the ISS is providing tangible return on investment 
to the American taxpayer. We have looked at a value impact 
process where our project sponsors, validated by external 
experts, project incremental revenue of more than $900 million, 
a total addressable market of $110 billion, an acceleration in 
time to market, on average, of 1.5 years, and thousands of new 
direct and indirect jobs. These are just a few of the economic 
metrics tied directly to the projects executed on the 
International Space Station National Lab.
    Some examples of these projects are Houston Methodist 
Research Institute, working with Novartis in Cambridge, on an 
implantable drug delivery system for muscle atrophy; Nalco 
Champion, an Ecolab company in Sugar Land, working on biofilms 
related to corrosions in piping; and Honeywell, out of 
Clearwater, Florida, looking at remote sensing applications to 
detect oil and gas leaks in remote parts of the world.
    So, let's step back. How were we able to build this demand? 
CASIS has funding of $15 million per year from NASA, which does 
not allow us to act like a big funding agency like the NIH. 
Therefore, we had to find creative ways to build demand, which 
admittedly has not been easy. When we first stood up CASIS, 
there were no customers banging down our doors, and there was 
generally a lack of awareness of the ISS. In my testimony, I 
describe, over the past 6 years, what we did to actually build 
this demand and how we evolved from an organization that 
initially had to pay researchers, who were mostly academic, to 
an organization that attracts commercial companies that are 
paying their way. To date, over $140 million of skin in the 
game which is non-CASIS, non-NASA funding has directly paid for 
flight projects. This excludes transportation cost. And this 
trend is increasing as more and more commercial companies are 
seeing the value of space-based research.
    Per our cooperative agreement with NASA, CASIS cannot 
accept royalties or fees for services, so we had to be creative 
when attempting to generate additional non-NASA funding to 
support new demand. We created a sponsored program model that 
has generated over $33 million of committed third-party funding 
for XPRIZE-type competitions like Target's $1 million cotton 
sustainability challenge and our partnership with Boeing on the 
MassChallenge Accelerator and Genes in Space STEM Program.
    So, finally, why do we need more time? First of all, we 
believe the perceived cliff with a hard cut-off date of 2025 or 
unknown path forward dampens long-term prospects for demand. 
Companies will simply stop investing if they don't see a runway 
that matches their R&D roadmap.
    Second, any abrupt change in which the private sector is 
asked to assume the role of managing the ISS without its best 
and most profitable uses defined may stunt the return on the 
investment to the American taxpayer.
    And finally, the demand I've just described is nascent and 
growing, and it's also on a trajectory to manufacturing in 
space. Two big examples are advanced materials, which could 
revolutionize the communications and semiconductors industry. 
The second example is the regenerative medicine work we're 
doing, which could ultimately lead to manufacturing new organs, 
like heart and lung, in space.
    In conclusion, we are creating demand, we have a model 
that's working, we see a trajectory to a sustainable 
marketplace, but we need time to ensure smooth transition and 
to fully realize the benefits and fulfill this vital mission.
    Thank you very much.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Bouthot follows:]

Prepared Statement of Cynthia Bouthot, Director, Commercial Innovation 
 and Sponsored Programs, Center for the Advancement of Science in Space
 
    Chairman Cruz, Senator Markey, and Members of the Committee, thank 
you for the opportunity to discuss with you my thoughts on Examining 
the Future of the International Space Station: Stakeholder 
Perspectives. I am pleased to share with you my perspectives in my 
capacity as the director of Commercial Innovation & Sponsored Programs, 
Center for the Advancement of Science in Space. In this role, I work 
directly with the private sector, nonprofits, and other government 
agencies to bring awareness to U.S. organizations that the 
International Space Station (ISS) U.S. National Laboratory is open for 
business, ultimately driving new demand. We work with organizations to 
analyze what projects would benefit from using the ISS National 
Laboratory platform and have Earth and U.S. taxpayer benefit. The 
Center for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS), the manager of 
the International Space Station U.S. National Laboratory, is creating a 
brand-new marketplace in low Earth orbit (LEO) and generating demand 
with new-to-space users. My team works with companies such as Target 
and Novartis as well as nonprofits such as Houston Methodist Research 
Hospital and the Michael J. Fox Foundation to introduce them to the 
National Laboratory on the ISS and assist them in realizing the 
benefits of utilizing this low Earth orbiting platform in a way that 
provides value to them and value to the Nation.
    I want to acknowledge the foresight Congress had back in 2005 when 
it designated the U.S. operating segment of the ISS as the Nation's 
newest National Laboratory. The NASA authorization Act of 2005 was 
sponsored by Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison from Texas and Senator Bill 
Nelson from Florida. The NASA Authorization Act of 2010 directed NASA 
to engage in a cooperative agreement with a not-for-profit entity to 
manage non-NASA utilization of the ISS National Laboratory. The 
nonprofit was guaranteed allocation of not less than 50 percent of the 
U.S. research capacity in order to implement these non-NASA research 
and development (R&D) projects.
    Through a competitive process, CASIS was selected as the nonprofit 
to manage the ISS National Laboratory in late 2011. Between 2010 and 
2015, a series of bipartisan legislation was passed to ensure 
continuation of support and utilization of the ISS through 2024, 
including support for exploration, development of commercial 
capabilities, and international cooperation. I would like to express 
our appreciation to past congressional leaders and yourselves for 
setting forth a national vision for U.S. leadership in low Earth orbit 
using the ISS National Laboratory as a pathfinder--essentially creating 
CASIS to open the ISS National Laboratory to recruit the research 
community from all sectors (commercial, academic, and other government 
agencies), focusing on driving utilization of the ISS with a broad 
range of new and non-traditional users. While NASA's ISS activities are 
focused on exploration, technology development, and living and working 
in space, CASIS was created to provide a pathway for disruptive non-
exploration R&D, commercial activities, and STEM education initiatives 
with Earth-based applications that directly benefit the American public 
and the Nation's economy. The ISS National Laboratory is working, and 
CASIS has come a long way in implementing Section 504 of the NASA 
Authorization Act of 2010.
    My testimony is focused on the success and challenges we've 
experienced in driving and attracting new private and public-sector 
demand to utilize the ISS National Laboratory. This comes at a 
propitious time when Congress is engaged in discussions of an ISS 
transition. The ISS National Laboratory model serves as a bridge from a 
government-driven operation to a commercially sustainable marketplace. 
Our efforts will lay the foundation for a future commercial LEO 
platform ecosystem and the attraction of private sector investment to 
grow and sustain the program.
    While we and our partners at NASA and in industry are making strong 
progress in building interest and demand in space R&D, we do have 
concerns about the impact of prematurely halting government support of 
the ISS and its impact on this nascent market. The FY19 President's 
budget request recommends a termination of direct funding of the ISS 
with a transition to fully commercialize operations by 2025. We 
understand that attraction of the commercial sector is a critical 
element of a successful transition, and we at CASIS are working 
diligently to inform this process. However, it is important that 
sufficient time be dedicated to ensuring not only a smooth transition 
but also a return on investment be realized for the American taxpayer 
with regards to the ISS National Laboratory. We are truly still in the 
early stage phase of the process of building a sustainable LEO 
marketplace, with the creation of demand for access to the facility, 
supply, and investment.
    Today, more than 55 percent of our payloads are private sector 
customers and include projects from iconic Fortune 500 companies and 
innovative startups. We have flown more than 175 payloads and we have 
88 in queue ready to go to the ISS National Laboratory. We have placed 
emphasis on projects that benefit by using the unique ISS platform. A 
majority of the ISS National Laboratory projects managed by CASIS are 
new-to-space users and 20 percent are repeat CASIS customers who see 
merit in continuing to utilize the ISS National Laboratory for their 
R&D activities. These initial activities are key to building a 
sustainable market. We are working with key R&D markets that we believe 
could lead to sustainable demand for access to LEO, such as 
manufacturing in microgravity.

Results and Impacts:
    Over the past several years, we developed a value assessment 
process that quantifies the value and impact back to the American 
taxpayer. The methodology we adopted is based on best practice analogs 
from industry, government research agencies, and other National 
Laboratories and is directly applied to the R&D projects accomplished 
on the ISS National Laboratory. To date, the following is the projected 
value of these projects (conducted on approximately 75 percent of the 
CASIS portfolio), validated by the project sponsors and external 
experts:

   Incremental revenue of more than $900M directly tied to ISS 
        National Laboratory projects

   Total estimated addressable market of more than $110B

   Accelerated time to market, on average between 1 and 3 years

   1000s of new direct and indirect jobs

   25+ new solution pathways of innovation (a measure of 
        innovation that can lead to a major advance in knowledge or new 
        intellectual property)

    In this section we present examples of new ISS National Laboratory 
users that are now conducting R&D projects using the benefits of 
microgravity, the extreme conditions of space, and the LEO vantage 
point for development of data and products that are subsequently 
returned to the project sponsor on Earth:

   Houston Methodist Research Institute (Texas): This team is 
        collaborating with Novartis (Massachusetts) on the development 
        of an implantable drug delivery device, using microgravity to 
        understand the capability of the small nanofluidic instrument 
        to deliver a drug. The end goal is to achieve efficacy in 
        combating muscle atrophy without the requirement of daily 
        injections.

   Nalco Champion (a subsidiary of the Fortune 500 company 
        EcoLab) (Texas): This project is directed toward the mitigation 
        of bacterial biofilm-related corrosion in oil and gas lines. In 
        today's world, microbiologically influenced corrosion causes an 
        estimated $0.5B-1.5T in damages and lost revenue annually, 
        mostly in the oil and gas industries. The conditions produced 
        by microgravity are being exploited to better understand the 
        mechanisms of biofilm formation, their corrosive effect, and 
        methods to mitigate physical damage to metal surfaces--which 
        may potentially have tremendous economic benefit for this 
        industry.

   Honeywell (Florida): This project is using remote sensing 
        applications to detect oil and gas leaks which, if successful, 
        would have major economic and environmental benefit for the 
        energy sector.

   Sanofi (Florida): This project is directed toward improving 
        vaccine production, with microgravity enabling an understanding 
        of cell-based vaccine production compared to older models using 
        chicken eggs. Results could substantially reduce manufacturing 
        cost and time to production while improving both the quality 
        and efficiency of vaccine development.

   Merck (New Jersey): This project is directed toward an 
        improved drug delivery formulation for a major new cancer 
        therapy using a monoclonal antibody, Keytruda. The goal is to 
        reduce the requirement for the administration of large 
        monoclonal antibody drugs in hospital settings, thereby 
        reducing hospital stays and costs.

   Delta Faucet (Indiana): This project seeks to improve water 
        droplet formation technology in shower heads designed to make 
        the user feel wetter using less water. This technology can 
        improve water sustainability and water use efficiency.

   Eli Lilly (Indiana): The company is undertaking four 
        projects--two focused on drug development and two focused on 
        drug delivery, including one to reduce the need for 
        refrigeration of some drugs. The latter, if achieved, would 
        facilitate worldwide distribution of biologics to parts of the 
        world that do not have refrigeration.

   Business Integra (Texas): Demonstrate higher processing 
        speeds and less costly single-board computers available for the 
        aerospace market.

   Goodyear (Ohio): Using microgravity to better understand 
        silica morphology for manufacturing tires with low rolling-
        resistance that are more fuel efficient and safer.

   Procter and Gamble (Ohio): Using microgravity to understand 
        complex fluid behavior and improve the functionality and shelf 
        life of consumer personal care products.

   Anheuser-Busch International (Missouri): Barley is the 4th 
        most cultivated grain in the world. This project examines 
        barley seed germination to provide valuable information on the 
        production of barley for the agricultural community on Earth.

   Target (Minnesota): This Challenge is focused on solutions 
        for more sustainable cotton production. A broad range of 
        solutions to improve cotton cultivation are to be explored 
        including plant genetics, plant root systems, and remote 
        sensing applications.

   Mass Challenge (Massachusetts): 2D Nanomaterials initially 
        focused on radiation detection technology for homeland 
        security.

ISS National Laboratory--Early Challenges in Developing Demand:
    CASIS receives $15M per year from NASA within the ISS Research 
budget. Within the parameters defined in our cooperative agreement, 
CASIS strives to identify creative ways to build demand and create a 
sustainable business model to allow a future transition of the facility 
to the private sector.
    Our experience suggests that building sustainable demand is not a 
trivial task. When we created CASIS, there were no customers banging 
down our doors. There was generally a lack of awareness of the ISS 
National Laboratory or demand for access to LEO for the conduct of 
research that would benefit from the conditions on the ISS.
    Thus, our first step was defining the intersection between 
phenomena and advantages that LEO offers with propositions that are 
interesting and beneficial to organizations here on the ground. As 
noted with the company examples, there are three big reasons why R&D 
takes place on the ISS National Laboratory:

   Microgravity--the near absence of gravity has a 
        fundamentally unique effect on many biological and physical 
        systems that cannot be investigated for any duration of time on 
        Earth. Understanding how gravity acts upon the biological and 
        physical systems parlays into improving terrestrial R&D areas 
        such as human health, agriculture, and materials design.

   Extreme Conditions of Space--accelerated degradation testing 
        using external platforms takes advantage of heat and cold 
        cycling, atomic oxygen, radiation, and debris impact.

   Vantage Point--the ISS is big satellite bus providing a 
        platform for remote sensing applications from the unique 
        orbital altitude and path.

    Because the commercial sector was not initially enthusiastic about 
being on the ``bleeding edge'' of ISS use, we had to first focus on 
generating proof-of-concept evidence. To introduce the research 
community to the concept of LEO-based research, we issued solicitations 
in key areas with a higher probability of success, such as stem cells, 
advanced materials, and remote sensing. These were fully-funded 
solicitations from CASIS that mainly engaged the academic research 
community.
    Once we had ``proof-of-concept'' evidence from this early work, 
combined with the body of basic research that was done prior to CASIS, 
we were able to talk with private sector customers about benefit to 
their respective research areas. We have continued to refine our 
approach by defining a commercial go-to-market strategy that focuses on 
four main areas: life science, physical science, technology, and remote 
sensing. We further delineated propositions that overlap with R&D 
portfolio areas here on the ground. We can also conclude that much of 
the publicly funded and even CASIS-funded basic research activities 
leads to creation of research pathways and reduced risks for possible 
downstream applications.
    We evolved from an organization that initially had to PAY for 
projects to an organization that attracts private-sector companies that 
are paying their way. To date, more than $140M of non-CASIS/non-NASA 
funding has directly paid for ISS National Laboratory projects. This 
trend is increasing as more and more private-sector customers are 
seeing the value of space-based R&D. While these funding trends are 
positive, we are not yet at the point where organizations are willing 
to pay for full project costs including transportation.
    Per our cooperative agreement with NASA, CASIS cannot accept 
royalties or fees for service--so again, we've had to be creative in 
generating new non-NASA funding. We developed a new ``product'' called 
a sponsored program, which is a pivot from our early unsuccessful 
fundraising model. Sponsored programs leverage third-party funding to 
support use of the ISS National Laboratory as an innovation platform 
focused on solving big challenges through a competition or solicitation 
model. They are also a great public-private partnership framework.
    Demonstrating an upward trend in leveraged funding, in the last 
three years, we have generated more than $33M of committed funding for 
sponsored programs, with examples including:

   Target Corporation's $1M cotton sustainability challenge is 
        funding three pathways from diverse sectors to investigate 
        water conservation.

   The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has supported 
        multiple competitions related to ``Tissue Chip'' R&D in space, 
        committing up to $19M+ in support of multiple experiments 
        related to drug development and regenerative medicine.

   The National Science Foundation has supported multiple 
        competitions related to tissue engineering, fluid physics, and 
        combustion, committing up to $5M+ in support of multiple space-
        based experiments.

    In addition to the economic value and impact delivered to the U.S. 
taxpayer as a result of our R&D programs, we are also addressing 
another critical national need--improvements in science, technology, 
engineering, and mathematics (STEM) education, so our youth are better 
prepared to participate and compete in our increasingly technology-
driven world. As defined in the enabling legislation that created 
CASIS, our efforts in education constitute approximately 10 percent of 
our total effort and are directed toward the creation of a national 
STEM program using the ``bright shiny object'' of the ISS to attract, 
motivate, and retain student interest. To achieve a national reach, we 
have entered into a partnership with many leading institutions with 
similar interests forming a consortium that includes the Boys and Girls 
Clubs of American, Girls Inc., the Boys Scouts of America, and several 
science museums and foundations, to create afterschool and summer 
programs that augment the basic science exposures provided by our 
public schools. We estimate that with programs such as our Space 
Station Explorers Consortium effort, we are leveraging the ISS National 
Laboratory to reach an estimated 800,000 students throughout the U.S. 
yearly, a number that is expected to grow to approximately 2 million 
during 2019. Space Station Explorers connects students and educators 
with the astronauts on the ISS to discuss science programs, and even 
design projects that can be flown to the station for execution in the 
ISS National Laboratory (see: https://www.spacestationexplorers.org/).

What Does the Future look like?
    One of our goals per the cooperative agreement is to stimulate, 
develop and manage the uses of the ISS National Laboratory by 
commercial, not-for-profit enterprises, other U.S. government agencies 
(besides NASA) and academic institutions. This goal will contribute to 
the building of a sustainable LEO marketplace that starts with private-
sector demand for access to the ISS. We believe the efforts of CASIS in 
managing the ISS National Laboratory will encourage private-sector 
participation and inform the Nation regarding how a smooth transition 
can be made from near-total government sponsorship to a commercially 
sustainable model. We believe that demand is in a formative stage for 
this evolutionary process.
    CASIS operations provide a critical element for a national effort 
to support a smooth transition to a sustainable LEO marketplace. The 
majority of private-sector companies positioning themselves for a 
possible transition are engaged in preparing transportation services or 
facilities (e.g., platforms, modules, and in-orbit laboratory R&D 
facilities) required to carry out activities in LEO, whereas CASIS is 
engaged in identification of the applications in LEO that will make use 
of these facilities and services to establish the market.
    Our current CASIS strategy, which is R&D based, includes a pathway 
to in-orbit manufacturing in advanced materials and organ-on-chip 
technologies. We believe in-orbit manufacturing could represent a 
critical element of a new commercially driven and sustainable LEO 
marketplace.

Conclusion:
    A space-based National Laboratory is vital in supporting the 
emergence of a sustainable LEO marketplace, and it is an important 
construct not only for the existing ISS but also as model and testing 
ground for a future space station or stations. The ISS National 
Laboratory has been a pathfinder for examining and encouraging demand 
for access to the unique ISS platform for R&D activities undertaken by 
the private and non-NASA public sector. While the growth in numbers and 
quality of project work suggests that we are making progress, we have 
not reached the threshold for a sustained market. It is well understood 
that Research and Development, and the translation of data into a 
market, is a long and risk-laden process. More time is required to 
ensure the early success in the identification of research applications 
for LEO and sponsors prepared to pursue these initiatives. These 
elements must be translated into a sustainable source of revenue for 
the transportation, in-orbit provider, and services market.
    The FY19PBR calls for the end of ISS direct funding by NASA by 
2025. This perceived cliff, or unknown path forward for the 
continuation of a platform in LEO, dampens long-term prospects for 
demand from industries--companies will stop investing if they don't see 
a runway that matches their own R&D roadmap. Also, any abrupt change in 
which the private sector is asked to assume the role of managing the 
ISS without its best and most profitable uses defined may stunt the 
return on investment to the U.S. taxpayer.
    In conclusion, we have been creating demand, we have a model that's 
working, and we see a trajectory to a new sustainable marketplace--but 
we need more time to fully realize the benefits and fulfill this vital 
mission!
    Mr. Chairman and Senator Markey, thank you again for opportunity to 
address the committee on this important topic today. Thank you for your 
time and attention. I look forward to your questions.

    Senator Cruz. Thank you very much, Ms. Bouthot.
    Let's start with questioning.
    Mr. Chilton, based on the technical study in the report 
that Boeing produced for NASA on the life span of the 
International Space Station, what's your assessment of the real 
life span of the Station? And how can we fully leverage this 
investment to get the maximum return on the platform?
    Mr. Chilton. Our assessment of life span of Station with 
all the calculations complete is to 2028. In the course of 
doing that, we saw no technical showstoppers to extend her life 
significantly. I mentioned previously that 2030 seemed very 
reasonable.
    I'd like to point out that, as we've improved, in 
partnership with NASA, the capability of the Station, I 
mentioned it's a better platform today than 10 years ago. The 
natural upgrade and improvement process in the course of 
maintenance is--should take all the subsystems that are not 
structure just as reasonably.
    Senator Cruz. So, from a scientific and technical 
perspective, you don't see any significant barriers to going to 
at least 2028 and potentially 2030 or beyond. Is that right?
    Mr. Chilton. That's correct, Senator.
    Senator Cruz. OK, thank you.
    Let me ask a question to all the witnesses. What do you 
think could be the unintended consequences of terminating 
Federal funding for ISS in 2025, 5 years, potentially, before 
the end of its usable life?
    I'll open that up to anyone.
    Mr. Chilton. I don't mind starting. I think we could signal 
to the science community some uncertainty, and we could see 
science dry up. I think we could signal to the entrepreneurial 
community, who may need more time, and we could see capital dry 
up. I think we could--you know, I'll use the term ``head 
fake''--we could have some people start something and, as we go 
down this path, they've invested some capital, and they find 
it's not going to work out because we're not certifying the 
life extension using government dollars. And, frankly, I think 
the transportation costs are a bit of an elephant in the room. 
Everybody who's able to generate revenue on ISS today is having 
government-sponsored transportation back and forth. So, that's 
got to be solved.
    Ms. Bouthot. I would just add that the entrepreneurial 
community, the commercial community, when they look at doing 
research on Station, they're not looking at a one-shot deal. 
They're looking at a research roadmap, especially when we're 
talking about our pharmaceutical companies that are doing work. 
We're talking about a 10-year timeframe. They do not want to 
see a trajectory that does not meet their research roadmap. 
We've already had anecdotal evidence of companies that we're 
working with to try to get to Station hesitate once that 2025 
date was announced.
    Senator Cruz. And if we get to 2025 and the only Space 
Station in low-Earth orbit is being operated by China, is that 
good for the United States of America?
    Mr. Mitchell. You know, Congressman, that is exactly what I 
was going to add to the conversation, is that our biggest 
concern, as well, needs to be the international relationships 
that we've developed all these years, developed the 
collaboration. Look at the relationship that we continue to 
have today with Russia. Even though we know what's going on in 
the world, this is the one thing that has really pulled us all 
together, kept us focused and working together. To give that up 
to China would be devastating to--in my opinion.
    Mr. Suffredini. So, I'd like to add, you know, I lived 
through ISS for many, many years, since the beginning. During 
that process, I was involved in the decision process from the 
outside of watching us decide that we would retire Shuttle and 
have commercial crew. It didn't really turn out the way we had 
all talked about, which really was, you had to have--bring on a 
commercial crew provider and then let Shuttle retire. And we 
are seriously suffering the consequences today. That we are 
relying on another country to get us to orbit, get our crews to 
orbit and back, is a travesty. If we are going to lead, which 
this country only should be doing, we need to do it by making 
the right commitments and making sure our transitions are 
sound. We need to stay in space. We have to be there. That's 
the high ground. That's where we need to be. And we need to do 
it with other countries, as well. That's critically important 
for us, as well. So, to lose the ISS without having some other 
capability orbit that is American-made, I think it would be a 
huge mistake.
    Senator Cruz. So, if I understand your testimony, you're 
saying, before we wind down any platform, that history has 
taught us we need to have a reliable alternative in place first 
so that we're not left with nothing and a lack of capability 
and a vulnerability to other nations.
    Mr. Suffredini. That is of critical importance. Yes, sir.
    Senator Cruz. Mr. Mitchell, you and I are both Houstonians. 
What impact does the Johnson Space Center have on economic 
development and jobs in and around Houston? And what would 
happen if NASA were to prematurely cancel a large program like 
ISS or to reduce Mission Control at JSC?
    Mr. Mitchell. Well, NASA has a tremendous impact from an 
economic development standpoint. Today, there's currently $1.4 
billion in salaries that go to the Johnson Space Center. But, 
more importantly, I need to set up the answer to that question 
by stating a few facts. And that is that, in 2012, the Johnson 
Space Center had 18,294 employees. Today, we have less than 
11,000 employees. Today, currently, there are a little over 
4,700 that are working on the International Space Station. I 
hate to use the same term that I used a few minutes ago, but it 
would be devastating to the community and to the space program 
to cut our number of people working for NASA, supporting the 
International Space Station. That would put us down to less 
than 5,000 people. So, we'd be devastating to the community.
    Senator Cruz. OK, thank you.
    My final question, Ms. Bouthot, is directed to you. Your 
written testimony highlights that more than 55 percent of 
payloads to the National Lab are private-sector customers, and 
that includes projects from iconic Fortune 500 companies and 
also from innovative startups. Some of the examples of research 
that have been conducted on the ISS include: Goodyear is using 
microgravity to better understand silica morphology for the 
manufacturing of new tires with low rolling resistance that are 
more fuel efficient and safer. CASIS material states that, 
quote, ``Research could give Goodyear a competitive advantage 
in the tire industry by developing superior rubber materials.'' 
Likewise, Procter & Gamble is using microgravity to understand 
complex fluid behavior and to improve the functionality and 
shelf life of consumer personal care products, such as shampoo, 
shaving cream, and gelatin. Merck is using microgravity to grow 
a crystalline suspension of millions of tiny uniform crystals 
to improve the formulation of the company's cancer 
immunotherapy drug, Keytruda. Keytruda is the drug that helped 
former President Jimmy Carter's cancer go into remission. And 
Forbes has reported that some analysts predict that Keytruda 
may be Merck's next $10 billion drug.
    Now, Ms. Bouthot, tell me, to what extent do American 
taxpayers receive direct payments or benefits from the research 
that's being conducted by Fortune 500 companies that may give 
them a competitive advantage in their respective industries?
    Ms. Bouthot. That's an excellent question. And I--we were 
just with Paul Reichert, the researcher from Merck, yesterday 
talking about the Keytruda drug at the Bio Conference, and I 
have to say that Merck is one of the biggest spokes companies 
and advocates for doing research in space. I would step back 
and point to the work that we have done to quantify value and 
impact back to the American taxpayer. We have looked at best-
practice analogs around, What are the economic, the innovation, 
and the humankind social benefits? Those were the numbers I was 
quoting, around the $900 million of incremental revenue, the 
$110 billion of total addressable market, the acceleration in 
time to market. These are some examples of those broader 
economic impacts that are coming back to the American taxpayer.
    When you mentioned Goodyear, with the tires, not only are 
there going to be return on investments to Goodyear from tire 
sales and being a leader in their industry, but those tires are 
going to result in lower emissions. I've got another--which is 
a humankind benefit--we've got other examples, like Delta 
Faucet, which is looking at showerheads. And again, their 
project may result to Delta Faucet and their product, but the 
point is, How do you make a better water-efficient tool that, 
again, can look at these broader humankind benefits?
    So, we've done a lot of work looking at best-practice 
analogs to understand how we can best communicate that overall 
value of economic, innovation, and humankind benefit back to 
the country, in addition to what the individual organizations 
are doing in terms of benefiting from that work on Station.
    Senator Cruz. Well, thank you for your testimony. I think 
that was helpful. If I understood you right, though, you said 
that there would be benefits to humanity from new technologies, 
and those are certainly real and cognizable. At the same time, 
there's not currently a revenue stream coming to the taxpayers 
if a $10 billion drug is developed on the ISS, that that 
revenue, that profit is not going back to the taxpayers. I know 
I and, I think, other members of this committee are interested 
in working with stakeholders in thinking about whether it makes 
sense for the taxpayers to enjoy some of the upside. We see 
many of our large research universities that innovate in 
science and enjoying the upside from the innovations they 
receive. And I think that has the potential, over the long 
term, to help provide additional funding streams for deep-space 
exploration and for continued American leadership in space. So, 
that will be a continued topic of discussion among members of 
this committee and stakeholders throughout the industry.
    I will note, at this point, that I am, unfortunately, going 
to a meeting at the White House right now. And so, Senator 
Markey is--or Senator Nelson has very kindly agreed to chair 
the remainder of----
    Senator Markey. I'm going to chair the remainder.
    Senator Cruz. OK. So, they're----
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cruz. One or the other will chair, and I'll let 
them fight it out as to who gets the gavel. But, I appreciate 
both of their willingness to chair. And I apologize that this 
conflict arose just a couple of hours ago. And so, being unable 
to be in two places at once----
    Senator Nelson. Mr. Chairman, you might not want me to 
chair, because we might, by the time you got back, already have 
passed a NASA bill.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cruz. I have faith we will continue to work 
together in a bipartisan manner to get that done.
    And I want to thank each of the witnesses. I think this 
hearing has already been productive, and I'm sure there will be 
continued and very positive discussion, going forward. So, 
thank you for being here.
    And, with that, I'll turn it over to Senator Markey.
    Senator Markey [presiding]. And I will recognize the 
Ranking Member, Senator Nelson.
    Senator Nelson. I have a quick question to follow up on the 
question of products and medicines.
    I'm curious. Do you happen to know what it is about the 
properties of zero G that are allowing Keytruda to become more 
effective, even more so than it already is?
    Ms. Bouthot. So, Merck is actually doing protein 
crystallization work on Station. And what they're doing is, 
they're looking at the ability to deliver the biologic in a 
less painful way. So, it's all about the protein 
crystallization effects of larger, more formed proteins on 
Station within microgravity. The big, sort of, end result for 
Keytruda is, right now those biologics are very painful to 
deliver into the body. They have to be administered in the 
hospital. And the work that Merck is doing with Keytruda using 
protein crystallization in microgravity is allowing that 
biologic to be delivered less painfully into the body and also 
let it be delivered in a doctor's office or even the homecare 
setting, which dramatically will reduce the healthcare-type 
costs associated with it.
    Senator Nelson. Well, I'm curious to hear more about that. 
If you want to see the original apparatus on protein 
crystallization on orbit, I invite you to stop by the office, 
over here at the Hart Building. But, what I can't understand 
is, from what you just said, what it is about zero G and the 
growing of crystals in zero G, which we've been doing now for 
32 years, that is making the Keytruda drug less painful, as you 
indicated. I'd just like to follow up with that.
    Ms. Bouthot. I'm happy to--I will take that offline, and we 
will bring back information to you, detailed information, on 
that.
    Senator Nelson. I'll just say this in passing. We've given 
all these kinds of reasons of why you want to extend the ISS 
beyond 2024, but this one is an example of something that the 
American people can immediately understand. If you are 
developing products and medicines unique to the properties of 
zero gravity of orbit, then, when the American people see that 
being developed for applications here on Earth, that's going to 
be pretty dramatic. So, keep those examples coming, and in the 
course of your testimony, if you might give other examples, 
that would be very good.
    Mr. Mitchell. Senator, I could give you an example right 
now.
    Senator Nelson. Please.
    Mr. Mitchell. OK. Osteoporosis and low bone mass are 
estimated to affect 44 million U.S. men and women over the age 
of 50 every year. A pharmaceutical company named Amgen decided 
to fly mice on the ISS and study the impacts of certain drugs 
on the mice's bone mass while in orbit. It was discovered that 
the drug named Osteoprotegerin, OPG, decreased bone 
reabsorption in compared to untreated mice. So, their first 
year of sales in 2011 was $554 million. This year, their sales 
will reach $3.3 billion. So, there's another example.
    Senator Nelson. And so, what you're saying is, by the 
properties of zero G, of which we already know, besides this 
experiment with mice, we know that that's affecting our 
astronauts. And that's why they have such a vigorous physical 
regimen onboard the Space Station, because when you don't have 
the effects of gravity, and you don't have that stress on the 
skeletal structure, then there is a lessening of bone mass. 
We've seen this by the annual physicals that are occurring over 
time, what they call a longitudinal study of astronaut health. 
So, what you're saying is, by growing mice, they see lessened 
bone mass and then this drug is directly helping that?
    Mr. Mitchell. Yes, sir. In fact, there are two drugs that 
they've created now. It's Prolia and Xgeva. Those are the two 
drugs that they were able to develop from that experiment on 
the ISS with the mice.
    Senator Nelson. OK. Thank you very much.
    Senator Markey. Thank you.
    So, the--this hearing, I think, is fascinating to everyone 
who is watching it, because it's talking about this potential 
to have real benefits that flow to corporations and, through 
corporations, to individuals all across our country and all 
across the world. And that storyline is really the 21st story--
21st-century storyline. You know, people know that Tang was 
developed because of the original 1960s NASA program. But, it 
has been harder for people to step back and look at the 
constellation of possibilities, you know, for our country and 
for the world from the next generation of NASA investment, of 
space exploration, of the recombinant private-sector/public-
sector DNA combinations that can make a tremendous difference 
in the future.
    I know that, just on the International Space Station from 
Massachusetts, we have 1Drop Diagnostics U.S. From Boston--we 
have Guardian Technologies, from Boston. We have radiation 
monitoring devices, from Watertown. We have Emulate, 
Incorporated, from Cambridge. But, as you said, Ms. Bouthot, 
the public still doesn't grasp that Novartis has an interest in 
this. That is that it's not just the companies that are 
providing the equipment for the Space Station who are now 
interested in it, it's companies who don't provide equipment, 
who are trying to find ways in which they can use these 
technologies to improve their ability to create products, 
create jobs, create wealth in our society.
    So, can you expand upon that a little bit more, what the 
vision is of the private-sector companies?
    Ms. Bouthot. I think that it's important to note that these 
examples that we're giving on the demand side are from 
nontraditional space companies that would not normally think 
about diverting their research goals to do something in low-
Earth orbit, even though they are starting to see the benefit. 
So, the more that we have this proof of concept, the more 
results that we're getting, the more value that we're 
projecting, the more that we see this demand increasing. But, I 
would just like to mention that, yesterday, General Abramson, 
who is our CASIS Interim Chief Executive Officer, and I were at 
the Bio Conference in Boston. General Abe came up with this 
idea to give Pioneer Awards to four of the major pharmaceutical 
companies that we're working with: Merck, Novartis, Lilly, and 
Amgen. And I actually was very skeptical, saying, ``You know, 
we're already working with these companies. Why do we need to 
give them an award?'' And, as it turned out, it was fabulous. 
We got senior-level, real excitement about receiving this 
Pioneer Award. And I think we have to recognize, when we're 
working with this nontraditional demand, that, yes, they may 
be, you know, producing their own research and benefiting from 
it, there may be the knock-on benefits to the value and return 
on investment to the American taxpayer, but these 
nontraditional space companies are truly pioneers in doing this 
type of research on Station. And we should really acknowledge 
that and celebrate that. So, I'd just like to----
    Senator Markey. So, again, you're--so, you're saying that--
perhaps not Novartis itself, but companies like Novartis, who 
now look at the Space Station, see real potential for research 
that leads to development----
    Ms. Bouthot. That's right.
    Senator Markey.--of new products, are now looking at a 
2024-2025 cliff--and again, not necessarily Novartis, but 
companies like that, dozens of them, maybe hundreds of them, if 
they felt that there was a runway here--start to say, ``Well, 
with that cliff, why should I take the risk''----
    Ms. Bouthot. That's exactly----
    Senator Markey. --``of making the investment now, in this 
new way of looking at the Space Station, which actually starts 
to create products back on Earth, that create jobs?'' So, what 
percent of these companies would you say are in that category? 
Is it pervasive across our economy that companies that 
historically have been looking at this are now a little bit 
more hesitant to engage?
    Ms. Bouthot. I only have anecdotal evidence, but what I 
would say is this. In every case, when we talk with a 
commercial company about the research they're doing on Station, 
these are strategic discussions about a broad portfolio of the 
work they're doing. It's never a one-shot deal. They would not 
divert resources for that. So, they do need to see that runway 
that matches their development timeline. For drug companies, 
that development timeline is 10-plus years. So, we already have 
anecdotal evidence of companies that we've initiated 
discussions with about doing research on Station. Once they 
heard that 2025 date, they really started pulling back and 
questioning.
    Senator Markey. So, you're saying that, if a drug company 
was trying to develop a new line of research, they'd give 
themselves 10 years----
    Ms. Bouthot. At least.
    Senator Markey.--in order to make the breakthrough.
    Ms. Bouthot. Yes.
    Senator Markey. And if all we're going to give them is 
another 7 years, that makes it more problematic for them----
    Ms. Bouthot. Right.
    Senator Markey.--in terms of taking tens of millions or 
hundreds of millions of dollars and putting it at risk. Is that 
what you're saying?
    Ms. Bouthot. Yes.
    Senator Markey. Yes.
    Now, what other industries are like the drug industry, that 
are name industries that are looking at the Space Station in 
the future for dramatic increase in commercialization of 
products that would be developed up there?
    Ms. Bouthot. So, a--so, drug companies within our life-
science vertical are big. We have four big areas that we focus 
on. The second is physical sciences, which has a whole host of 
consumer product and industrial-type companies doing research.
    Senator Markey. For example.
    Ms. Bouthot. Goodyear. We've already talked about Goodyear. 
They are doing--looking at the morphology of the silica within 
their tires. NEMAC, it's a Wisconsin-based company looking at 
lighter, cheaper alloy in the production of engines. So, we've 
got whole--and we mentioned Procter & Gamble, where they were 
looking at shelf life and those types of things. So, that's a 
big area that we're seeing interest. The third is technology. 
We're seeing technology companies looking at a whole host of 
project work on Station. And then, the fourth is the remote-
sensing area. We gave the example of Honeywell looking at using 
remote-sensing applications to detect oil and gas leaks in 
parts of the world that--you know, that there's nobody there.
    So, we're seeing a broad interest in all of those four 
categories. And, you know, the research portfolio discussions 
we have with each and every one of those companies is similar. 
Once they look at this sort of investment and shifting 
resources, they do not want to see a cliff.
    Senator Markey. Right. So, we have a situation, here, where 
NASA is eager to move on to Moon--to the Moon and to Mars, and 
then to just say to the private sector, ``Here, you take low-
Earth orbit. Your job to figure this out now and to try to 
figure out how to commercialize it.''
    Mr. Chilton, do you think that the commercial market will 
be ready to take on the low-Earth orbit missions by 2025?
    Mr. Chilton. I think signaling that we have to do it by 
2025 or there is no market will become a self-fulfilling 
prophecy for no market. There has to be an incremental 
approach. I would add to the previous answer the transportation 
industry. We've got a Starliner product, previously discussed. 
If I'm not sure that the commercial industry running the 
Station is going to buy resupply in its current form, I've got 
an uncertain market, and product upgrades and continued 
advances become problematic.
    So, I think that, with the revenue gap of $3.2 billion of 
cost to about $100 million of revenue is probably unlikely to 
close and come together in 7 years, sir.
    Senator Markey. And she did mention Goodyear tires, which 
is in the transportation sector, OK. So, what are the biggest 
challenges that the private sector--private space sector faces 
in terms of taking the helm from NASA? What are those top 
obstacles that will be hard for them to resolve?
    Mr. Chilton. I'll throw out a few and then wait for 
reaction from my colleagues.
    We have to remember, the Space Station is a National Lab 
today, by law, and those typically don't have to generate 
revenue. The people who staff that National Lab are government 
employees, highly trained. The new commercial operators got a 
very small pool of applicants to staff their lab if they're 
operating it commercially. Currently, the U.S. Astronaut Corps 
and from--some from a few other nations.
    Other obstacles are, that Station includes labs from Europe 
and Japan. And so, you have to get the export control and all 
the policy things right to be able to work with them up there. 
I think those are all long-cycle obstacles. And 7 years will be 
tough.
    Senator Markey. Long cycle is, in your mind, not 5 to 7 
years. It's longer than that.
    Mr. Chilton. With absolute certainty and knowing you could 
approach policy, 7 years seems like a long time. History 
suggests, commercial crew and otherwise, that this is a long-
cycle endeavor. I respectfully offer that the answer to who 
might not show up in 7 years, how many of them are thinking 
about it, that would quit? It's 100 percent of those who 
haven't started. If you're in the pipeline to take something to 
Station commercially today, you may continue. If you're 
thinking about it, but haven't started, now you've got a new 
consideration.
    Senator Markey. So, it's going to create a chilling effect, 
then, on anyone else that--although there are always other 
private-sector opportunities, which any company can look at, 
but this would be one that, in your opinion, would just be too 
risky if someone was starting now and thinking about trying to 
put something together for--before--that's completed before 
2025.
    Mr. Chilton. In my view, the capital you could attract for 
this in the complete absence of a government backbone is not 
going to be as attractive as other options.
    Senator Markey. OK. Thank you.
    So, on average, NASA's budget for the Space Station is $3.4 
billion a year. The administration's central argument for its 
proposal to end direct funding of the Space Station in the mid-
2020s is, ``to reduce costs.'' Though funds for the Space 
Station could be used for other costly deep-space missions, I 
am skeptical those missions would be successful without the 
important research carried out on the Space Station.
    To all of you, why is it important that the government 
continue to fund the Space Station at those levels into the 
mid-2020s and possibly after?
    Mr. Suffredini.
    Mr. Suffredini. Yes. Thank you.
    Well, I don't know if you're asking about the funding in 
general or just keeping the International Space Station around. 
But, in our view, and similar to the rest of the folks here 
with me, the idea that the ISS goes away without some other 
platform being available is not good, for a number of reasons, 
not the least of which is what you've heard here this 
afternoon. But, when you think about, as has been said here, 
the fact that we have users onboard today, many of who, 
particularly those trying to do manufacturing, they're--if you 
pick a date and don't have a sound plan, you're going to lose 
these people. And you'll see the utilization of ISS start to 
tail off. But, most critical, from our way of thinking about 
it, is, you're going to lose the LEO marketplace that is slowly 
building. So, we think the big push for the International Space 
Station, other than what it does today, starts with what's 
going on at CASIS, which is bringing commercial entities to the 
market, particularly right now in research, but also in 
studying manufacturing options, but then to continue that 
process, because, as you're saying--as you're seeing here 
today, a lot of these things are on a very long cycle, and so, 
we're just now starting to be able to give evidence of specific 
cases where it's useful. If we start talking about ending ISS 
without having another platform available to take over, what's 
going to happen is, we're going to have a big dip, which we may 
not recover from. It's----
    Senator Markey. So, Mr. Mitchell, if you could give us your 
view on--on this argument----
    Mr. Mitchell. Right.
    Senator Markey.--that they're saying, ``We just have to 
reduce costs. And this just has to go,'' what's your answer to 
that?
    Mr. Mitchell. Well, it--to me, you can't do it. It's 
impossible. I like the term ``backbone.'' The Federal 
Government has to be the backbone of the ISS. Even if you do 
commercialize it, there's no way you can make the business 
plan, in my opinion, for small commercial companies and our 
launch vehicles to support the ISS. So, in my opinion, you have 
to have a backbone to it. You go back and look at this year's 
budget. To operate the ISS itself is--1.4 is the proposal. The 
Space transportation is 2.5. There's your 3.5 to 4 billion 
dollars. 2.5 to launch. So, who's going to pay for that? To me, 
there's just not a business plan in the commercial industry to 
be able to maintain and launch at the same time.
    Senator Markey. So, let me come back to you, then, Mr. 
Suffredini. Yesterday, the Washington Post reported that, 
``NASA Is talking to several international companies about 
forming a consortium that would take over operation of the 
International Space Station and run it as a commercial space 
lab.'' NASA Administrator said, in an interview, ``Axiom Space 
is one of a handful of companies looking at building the 
commercial successor to ISS.'' What would happen to Axiom Space 
if NASA establishes a consortium to operate ISS? Are you 
concerned that it could have a chilling effect on competition 
and innovation?
    Mr. Suffredini. Well, I think those are really two 
different things. Operating the ISS with a consortium 
theoretically would continue ISS as we know it till sometime 
the government decides it won't be spending money on it 
anymore. I think Jim's been very clear, and we see it the same 
way, you're not going to make money off the International Space 
Station as it is today. It is expensive to own and operate. 
However, new spacecraft built specifically based on later 
technology, we can build them much less expensive, operate them 
for less cost. And so, we actually can make a buck.
    So, the answer to your question is, As long as there is a 
point at which we will ultimately transition to a fully 
commercial capability, having a transition period where 
industry does operate the ISS is certainly viable, in our way 
of thinking.
    Senator Markey. Ms. Bouthot, you--NASA carries out vital 
research on the Space Station. A platform like the Space 
Station addresses 22 out of 33 human health risks identified by 
NASA for current and future deep-space missions, including the 
effects of a closed spacecraft design and what effect exposure 
to long-term radiation would have on cancer rates. Could you 
elaborate on the consequences of this administration's proposal 
about ISS and what would happen to all of this important 
research?
    Ms. Bouthot. I think you've noted life science is a very 
rich area for research on Station, not just for the commercial 
and entrepreneurial community that are doing it, but also as a 
proof of concept and a proving ground for a lot of the work 
that NASA is doing. I think we see the ISS National Lab as this 
proof of concept that can eventually lead to the Moon, to 
exploration and beyond, but also as being on the cusp of a 
sustainable manufacturing, where some of the things that you've 
just noted, we eventually could be not just finding proof-of-
concept solutions in the short term, but actually solving them 
in the longer term.
    Senator Markey. OK. So----
    Yes, Mr. Chilton.
    Mr. Chilton. Senator, I would offer that NASA--when we talk 
about eliminating cost versus reducing cost, NASA will--I 
predict NASA will want access to the Station in all scenarios. 
And, beyond 2025, they need to address those human health 
risks, they need to learn more about long-term life support. 
So, NASA and the government will spend money on the Station in 
some model. The desire to reduce that seems reasonable on some 
timescale, but the idea of just eliminating it on a date 
certain, less reasonable.
    Senator Markey. OK. So, let me ask you this. When you say 
to them, ``It's not reasonable to completely reduce it, because 
there's going to be a need for research for NASA,'' what do 
they say to you?
    Mr. Chilton. In full disclosure, they've, in good faith, 
asked for studies and information from industry. We've all 
submitted those, and we don't have our feedback yet.
    Senator Markey. You don't have feedback yet, OK. So, 
they've given you this opportunity to explain to them how you 
can't just pull out, that NASA's still going to need a 
substantial amount of information coming back from the Space 
Station in order to help all these already preceding 
initiatives that NASA has. Is that what you're saying?
    Mr. Chilton. Yes. They're giving us a chance to give them 
full feedback, and asking broadly, not just companies like 
Boeing.
    Senator Markey. OK, beautiful.
    OK. Here's what I--how's what I'd like to do. I'd like to 
give each one of you one minute to summarize what you want the 
Subcommittee, the Full Committee, to remember as we're moving 
forward here. And again, understanding that Senator Cruz and I 
agree, Senator Nelson and I agree with Senator Cruz on these 
issues, in terms of the sequencing that should, in fact, take 
place. So, that's no small moment in the history of this 
Committee. So, we're--and congratulations on creating our 
consensus here, because we--it definitely helps to increase 
dramatically our likely success, our effectiveness in getting 
the right answer here.
    So, I'm going to give each one of you one minute to tell us 
what you want the Committee to remember about your testimony, 
and about the future of NASA and the Space Station.
    Mr. Suffredini.
    Mr. Suffredini. Well, first, I'd say we feel strongly that 
the United States should not allow a gap of access to LEO and a 
platform on which to operate. We would like to see the 
government and the agency work toward supporting commercial 
being able to be in a position, at some point, to take over for 
the International Space Station. And, to that end, we'd like to 
see port solicitation be put in place immediately, and that any 
money additional that NASA is given for commercial development 
be spent on helping develop demand.
    Senator Markey. Thanks.
    Mr. Mitchell.
    Mr. Mitchell. Thank you. I think--what I'd like to say is, 
to go back what I said a little bit earlier, and that's for us 
to understand the importance of our leadership, America's 
leadership in space and to look at what China, what Russia, 
what are other countries trying to accomplish to get ahead of 
us on that. And the fact that--again, go back to China--China 
just, you know, recently, last week, asked our international 
partners to work with them on their ISS--or their space 
station. It's something that we should be concerned about. To 
me, it's a national security issue, it's global leadership, and 
that's where our focus should be, not to mention that we have 
to have this as a testbed for us to go on to Moon and Mars and 
beyond. But, first and foremost, in my mind, we have to 
maintain our leadership in space.
    Senator Markey. Yes, beautiful.
    Mr. Chilton.
    Mr. Chilton. First, I would say a strong recommendation 
that you consider a criteria- versus time-based way to reduce 
cost, just let the facts and data and the markets emerge as 
they do on the time they naturally do versus say it must be a 
certain time. That's first. Second, as you do that, avoid 
uncertainty for the research and science communities. We need 
to keep that pipeline full, and we need to signal to them that 
we're deliberatively working through this, and that lab will be 
there. And the third thing I would ask you to do is remember 
those high school students who spend every day of their life 
with humans living and working aloft. I'll call them Generation 
ISS. Let's not have them talking, in 10 or 15 years, saying, 
``In my day, we had people in space, living continuously.'' 
Let's just keep it that way.
    Senator Markey. Thank you----
    Mr. Chilton. Thank you.
    Senator Markey.--Mr. Chilton.
    Ms. Bouthot.
    Ms. Bouthot. I'll go back to the demand. And we believe 
demand is the underpinning for building a sustainable LEO 
marketplace. We believe that it is also the trajectory to 
eventual manufacturing in space. And when we can do that, we 
will truly have a viable market that can support supply as well 
as the nontraditional demand. We would hope that we continue to 
receive support around generating this demand and looking at 
the capabilities that these new users need. We're working very 
closely with NASA now on identifying what those enabling 
capabilities are. So, understanding what the best--what can 
best meet the needs of these new users, and protecting them, 
and also really celebrating these new users, because they are 
pioneers in the creation of this new marketplace.
    Senator Markey. OK, beautiful.
    Well, this was an excellent, excellent hearing, excellent 
set of witnesses. We thank you.
    And again, we're trying to work as closely as we can 
together in order to come up with a common perspective that we 
can advocate for on a bipartisan basis in order to ensure that 
we get the right result here.
    And the hearing record will remain open for two weeks. 
During this time, Senators are asked to submit any questions 
for the record to our witnesses. And, upon receipt, the 
witnesses are requested to submit their written answers to the 
Committee as soon as possible.
    The Committee thanks the witnesses for appearing today.
    And, with that--he took the gavel with him. No, no, no, no.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Markey. And, with that, this hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 3:40 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]


                            A P P E N D I X

    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Bill Nelson to 
                         Michael T. Suffredini
                         
    Question 1. What are the most important things NASA should and 
should not be doing in the near future to grow commercial activity 
aboard crewed platforms in low Earth orbit?
    Answer. The most important thing NASA could be doing is to 
immediately make an ISS berthing port available for a company that is 
building a follow-on U.S. commercial space station. Since at the moment 
the ISS can provide only enough power for a single attached set of 
space station modules, and a station should be attached to ISS prior to 
its retirement to allow transfer of the existing commercial and 
government users, NASA must immediately create a competitive process 
that permits commercial entities to compete for an ISS berthing port to 
attach to (assuming said commercial entity intends to remain on orbit 
post ISS retirement). In addition, preference for the ISS port usage 
should be given to companies who request no money from NASA for the 
development, launch and operation of their space station.
    Second, any additional money NASA is given for ``LEO 
Commercialization'' should be spent specifically on building demand. 
While some enhancement of the commercial research development effort by 
CASIS is necessary, an Administration-wide effort to educate and 
incentivize companies to manufacture products in LEO would result in 
the kind of growth not seen since the advent of the internet. With the 
proper growth of demand, U.S. commercial suppliers can gain private 
investment to address the demand.
    NASA should NOT compete with commercial companies trying to 
establish a LEO marketplace for human spaceflight platform related 
services. There are a number of cases where NASA could end up competing 
with commercial LEO supplier entities; NASA should be very sensitive to 
making sure that whenever they are asked to provide a service to 
anyone, they point the requestor to U.S. commercial suppliers. A case 
in point is what is referred to as country customers. An early big 
market for commercial LEO providers are countries who want to build a 
human spaceflight program, or those who want more access to space for 
their existing programs. When these countries come to NASA for flight 
opportunities for their astronauts and related services, NASA should 
NOT barter to 1) provide those flight opportunities to ISS for these 
countries; 2) assist the countries in selecting their national 
astronauts; 3) train their crew; or 4) provide any other services 
relative to implementing a human spaceflight program. NASA can still 
have a partnership for ISS and exploration beyond LEO with such 
countries, but should point countries to U.S. commercial entities to 
supply these LEO operational capabilities.

    Question 2. Would an extension of the space station beyond 2025 be 
helpful to your company and ones like it? What would be the impact of 
deorbiting the ISS in 2025, or of NASA turning over the ISS to a 
``commercial operator'' (who might then compete with other commercial 
space stations in LEO) as has also been suggested?
    Answer. Axiom takes as a given that the United States must maintain 
a continuous presence in space to maintain its global leadership 
position in human spaceflight. This can be accomplished by ensuring a 
U.S. commercially developed ISS follow-on space station is available to 
utilize before ISS is retired. Axiom Space, Inc. is developing just a 
commercial space station to follow the ISS. In fact, we believe any ISS 
follow-on station should first attach to ISS to ensure continuity for 
all users, including National Lab, government and commercial entities. 
This is critical to fully utilizing ISS toward the end of its life and 
ensuring the LEO economy developed up to the point of ISS retirement 
isn't discarded when ISS is deorbited.
    However, at this point, due to the lack of NASA making a berthing 
port on ISS available, it would be very difficult for a commercial 
company to build a station, attach it to ISS, transfer National Lab and 
other government and commercial users from ISS to the commercial 
station and separate to operate independently by 2025. The first step 
in the process is a solicitation to compete for the use of a berthing 
port on ISS. Once the port is awarded to a company, then the company 
can secure the investment necessary to design, build, launch, assemble 
and operate the new space station. NASA is just now concluding the 
selection process for a second study on LEO commercialization that is 
not due to be complete until the end of this year. Assuming 3 months to 
review the study results and decide to create a solicitation for the 
port, NASA could not be ready to award a port before mid-2020. 
Investors have expressed the need to see the port awarded before 
significant investment will be available; no significant commercial 
space station development can take place until after use of the 
berthing port is awarded. At this point, therefore, it will be 
difficult to build a successful station that begins its life at ISS if 
ISS is retired in 2025.
    Finally, turning over ISS to a ``commercial'' operator who would 
then be allowed to sell LEO services would effective kill any truly 
commercial LEO effort. First, the ``commercial operator'' model is not 
commercial at all. It is a NASA contractor that will be paid about $3B 
to operate ISS and make it available to NASA to meet its needs and 
commitments. The company that wins this contract (likely to be the 
large ISS contractors for NASA today on ISS) will easily be able to 
undercut any would-be commercial provider, since they can use their fee 
(and what is sure to be significant margin in their operation) to 
subsidize their cost, thus preventing real competition. Without 
competition, the ISS contractor will own any user market. Without any 
competition, the NASA contractor will not be incentivized to build a 
successor platform, since the U.S. government is subsidizing the one 
they use and paying significant fee to keep the ISS viable. No new 
platform means no creative cost reductions for users and very limited 
enhancements to ISS. Also, when ISS life does end (which is 
inevitable), it is highly likely that no U.S. commercial platform will 
be available to take over. Perhaps more disturbing, commercial startups 
like Axiom Space are incentivized to help build the LEO demand, but 
this NASA contractor will not be incentivized to build demand since it 
has NASA as an anchor tenant. The government should not under estimate 
the effort a truly commercial company will put into developing LEO 
demand . . . which the government will benefit from.
    If the government wants to create a consolidated contractor to take 
over operations of ISS to perhaps save some money and/or for political 
reasons, this contractor must be forbidden from selling services 
commercially on orbit.
    In summary, the most effective way to grow a commercial market in 
LEO, and the quickest/safest way ensure a U.S. capability for NASA 
astronauts in LEO, is to take steps today to incentivize commercial 
suppliers for LEO services. These include: immediately generating a 
solicitation for commercial space station companies to compete for use 
of an ISS berthing port; utilizing any additional ``commercial LEO 
development'' funds for developing LEO demand, in particular in-space 
manufacturing; ensuring NASA does not provide spaceflight opportunities 
to other countries that do not otherwise already have opportunities 
through the ISS partnership, or sell related astronaut or flight 
operation services that are commercially available to other nations; 
and, finally, if NASA creates a consolidated operations contract for 
ISS, ensuring the companies involved cannot sell ISS services or flight 
opportunities.
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     Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Bill Nelson to 
                              Bob Mitchell
                              
    Question. What are the most important things NASA should and should 
not be doing in the near future to grow commercial activity aboard 
crewed platforms in low Earth orbit?
    Answer. The most important thing NASA should be doing is continuing 
to provide access and services for research in LEO onboard the 
International Space Station (ISS). ISS is an excellent proving ground 
to foster the development of a commercial LEO economy. NASA should also 
communicate that ISS will continue to provide these services through 
2028 and beyond--as long as this national and international asset can 
provide these services. Without a level of certainty, we will continue 
to lose critical research opportunities which will hinder economic 
growth. NASA should also continue to allow researchers to retain the 
rights to the information and discoveries. If NASA were to retain 
rights or put a royalty/tax on research, there is a high likelihood 
that the LEO commercial market would collapse. The government is 
already getting economic benefit in the form of taxes on new products 
developed based on ISS research. NASA should also continue to provide 
access to potential commercial capabilities on-board ISS, like 
Nanorack's Airlock and the possibility of a future commercial habitat. 
In conclusion, any level of uncertainty with regards to ISS 
availability will have a significant impact on the future of commercial 
LEO economy.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Bill Nelson to 
                              Jim Chilton
                              
    Question 1. What are the most important things NASA should and 
should not be doing in the near future to grow commercial activity 
aboard crewed platforms in low Earth orbit?
    Answer. NASA, industry and international partners should seek to 
fully leverage the ISS over the next decade to foster growth in 
commercial demand for services in LEO. The ISS provides an unparalleled 
platform and opportunity for commercial entities to explore different 
technologies and business models, while leveraging the ISS National Lab 
as well as the regular crew and cargo transportation funded by NASA.
    Unfortunately, there is no ``silver bullet'' for rapid 
commercialization and growth. Currently, NASA and foreign governments 
remain the exclusive or primary funders of spaceflight in LEO and there 
is no comparable non-government market demand for these services. 
Today, there is a large gap between supply and demand in LEO with 
significantly more supply than market demand for these services. As I 
noted in my testimony, NASA currently funds the on-orbit U.S. operating 
segment of the ISS at approximately $3 billion annually. $1.8B of this 
is for crew and cargo resupply launches, $1.1B for station operations 
and maintenance, and the balance for science. Commercial revenue is 
$100 million or less. This is a significant gap to close, but 
commercial revenue can grow with a long-term commitment to ISS as a 
platform available to commercial users and time for this nascent market 
to grow. However, it would be premature to assume how long it will take 
for this market to grow and what the ultimate nature of this market may 
entail
    A key element to successful commercialization is allowing 
sufficient time and stability for market maturation. There are a number 
of new and growing businesses and commercial opportunities that have 
developed in recent years thanks to NASA encouragement and industry 
investment. For example, the Boeing/Nanoracks commercial airlock will 
enable Cubesat and other small satellite deployment from ISS by way of 
the national laboratory. Although some argue this is a launch service 
taking advantage of the no cost access NASA allows for science, it does 
show emerging demand. Additionally, Boeing investment in innovation 
targets an untapped user community of start-ups through business 
accelerators like MassChallenge. These efforts, among others on ISS, 
may foster the development of commercial demand, but it is too soon to 
know how and when this market may mature to provide sufficient demand 
independent of significant government support. At the present time, 
commercial activities on ISS are heavily subsidized and consistent with 
the laboratory environment, are primarily in the incubation phase of 
development. The larger question revolves around how to mature 
commercial concepts from the incubation phase into viable self-
sustaining market opportunities? Continued ISS operations are needed to 
explore processes for economic maturation and reduce the dependence on 
government subsidies.
    NASA has been very forward-leaning in supporting the development of 
commercial supply services and capabilities through significant 
investment and service purchases of cargo and crew transportation, 
support for CASIS and the ISS National Lab, as well as ongoing work 
with commercial service providers to help stimulate a market for 
cubesats, experiments and testing onboard the ISS. To fully leverage 
these investments and emerging markets, the ISS should be extended 
through at least 2030 to provide the necessary time to enable 
commercial demand in LEO. We applaud the leadership of this committee 
in the extension of ISS authorization through at least 2030 in the 
Space Frontier Act to provide the necessary time and stability to 
foster commercial growth.
    Regulating In-Space Activities. The Trump administration has 
proposed establishing a new office at the Department of Commerce that 
would be responsible for overseeing commercial activities in space. 
This would be separate from the Department of Transportation's 
responsibility to regulate launch and reentry. So, crewed commercial 
space vehicles such as Starliner would have to deal with Department of 
Transportation regulations during launch and reentry but with 
Department of Commerce for operations in space. A different idea would 
be to have one department--be it Commerce or Transportation--just take 
care of everything as a ``one-stop-shop.''
    The Boeing Company supports the principles of Space Policy 
Directive-3 (SPD-3), which transitions Space Situational Awareness 
(SSA) and Space Traffic Management (STM) authorities to ensure that 
America's national security, civil, and commercial space assets are 
fully protected from space debris and other orbital threats. The Trump 
Administration has indicated that the Department of Commerce should be 
the lead agency for these functions and the House and Senate committees 
of jurisdiction are considering legislation in both chambers that 
address the implementation of these and other commercial space reforms, 
including those in your Space Frontier Act.
    Above all, it is important that SSA and STM be implemented in a 
manner that establishes a positive example and precedent for the 
industry and the international community. With the anticipated growth 
in launches, satellites and orbital debris in the years ahead, we need 
an effective SSA and STM process and standards to prevent costly or 
even catastrophic impacts in orbit. Boeing is a longtime partner with 
the DoD, NASA, and other agencies on national security, human 
spaceflight, and commercial satellite programs and as the risk of space 
debris grows we are committed to astronaut safety and the protection of 
critical assets operating in space.
    We look forward to working with the Administration, Congress and 
all of the appropriate entities involved in the licensing and 
management of commercial space launch and activities to ensure safe, 
responsible and transparent oversight of civil and commercial entities 
operating in space.

    Question 2. What do you think is the best way for the government to 
provide oversight and supervision for new activities in space?
    Answer. The best way for the government to provide oversight and 
supervision in space is to establish a clear regulatory regime and to 
ensure that all civil and commercial actors operating in space are 
conducting activities in compliance with these rules. We believe that 
the protection of national assets--including national security systems, 
GPS, the International Space Station, weather satellites, among other 
assets--should be at the center of any regulatory regime, and that 
there should be a clear process that ensures full compliance with these 
rules by all actors in space. Civil and commercial entities should be 
expected to share equally in these responsibilities and obligations to 
protect our national assets.

    Question 3. If NASA's demand for commercial crew transportation 
goes down as a result of retiring the space station in 2025, what is 
the impact on commercial crew transportation? Will there be enough 
demand to keep multiple U.S. crew transportation providers in business?
    Answer. Currently there is significantly more commercial 
transportation supply than commercial demand for LEO services. NASA is 
currently a monopsony buyer, able to compete multiple existing and 
emerging providers. Without more destinations or demand on ISS, there 
will be an upper limit to the number of launch resupply providers who 
can remain viable. NASA should carefully manage this supply and demand 
imbalance until a larger market emerges.
    NASA investment and the continued operation of the ISS are central 
to the business case for the current cargo and crew transportation 
providers as nascent commercial demand continues to develop and grow. 
Without continued ISS operations, it is unlikely that NASA would need 
to sustain currently planned levels of cargo and crew transportation to 
LEO, which could result in higher prices to sustain less frequent 
transportation or fewer providers. The commercial space habitat market 
is still in its infancy and based on past development program 
schedules, it is unlikely that an alternative to ISS that would drive 
this level of demand and investment would be in place by the mid-2020s.
    While Boeing is confident that there is commercial interest in 
Starliner transportation services to ISS for international and non-
government astronauts, this market is mostly predicated on governments 
and companies seeking to conduct activities on the ISS using the 
platform's unique assets and facilities. It is not safe to assume that 
alternative U.S. platforms will materialize or will provide the same 
capabilities that attract potential commercial demand as the ISS.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Bill Nelson to 
                            Cynthia Bouthot
                            
    Question 1. What are the most important things NASA should and 
should not be doing in the near future to grow commercial activity 
aboard crewed platforms in low Earth orbit?
    Answer. Since our partnership began in 2011, NASA has been an 
incredible partner, and it has been an honor to work together with this 
agency to support the ISS National Laboratory.
    By continuing its commitment to space exploration, development of 
advanced technological capabilities, and international cooperation, 
NASA's success and reliability is at the foundation of our corporate 
partnerships and our ability to someday achieve the commercialization 
of low Earth orbit (LEO), particularly research and development (R&D) 
on the ISS National Lab.
    Potential concerns that we are addressing together with NASA 
include the high cost of transportation and regulation that could 
hinder getting payloads to LEO, as well as the continued training and 
development of a U.S. workforce of scientists that will operate in LEO 
on the ISS National Lab and beyond. Transportation and talent are both 
invaluable resources in this endeavor. We work collaboratively with 
NASA to cultivate a wide range of potential ISS National Lab users to 
develop research projects and programs that will be impactful from an 
economic, innovation, or social perspective. We are growing a network 
of investors, and through that network, we are able to distribute 
information and investment opportunities to bring in people who have 
not yet made their first investments in space, thereby infusing more 
capital into this emerging ecosystem.
    To summarize the important things NASA should and should not be 
doing in the near future:

  (1)  Focus on transportation and providing low-cost and repeatable 
        access to LEO.

  (2)  Continue to use the ISS National Lab as a pathfinder for:

      a.  Commercial activities, including proof-of-concept activities 
            aligned with strategic investments that will lead to larger 
            sustainable activities such as in-orbit manufacturing.

      b.  Technology readiness level (TRL) maturation of commercial 
            products that have Earth applications.

      c.  Public-sector basic research activities, which are the 
            underpinning for future private-sector activities (e.g., 
            keep the seed corn, continue to cultivate the pipeline of 
            the U.S. workforce, and advance U.S. innovation in areas 
            such as tissue engineering activities by the National 
            Istitutes of Health and the National Science Foundation).

  (3)  Create a balanced strategy for the development of alternative 
        commercial platforms and capabilities and the development of 
        demand by the private sector. It is important to now consider 
        low-cost R&D platforms beyond the lifetime of the ISS to ensure 
        a gapless transition by the time the ISS is decommissioned. In 
        parallel, attention needs to be given to understanding, 
        creating, and enabling demand by the private (and public) 
        sector. The emerging commercial platform market needs to 
        understand the nontraditional customers. Don't put the cart 
        before the horse.

  (4)  Don't put in place processes or policies that would detract 
        demand interest, such as intellectual property (IP) and data 
        rights. For example, the U.S. should create a broad exemption 
        from the Federal government taking a stake in a company's IP 
        and data rights. Companies that cover the cost of their 
        projects in space (not including transportation costs) should 
        be exempt from any stake the U.S. government would otherwise 
        take. Establishing simple IP and data right expectations will 
        help drive demand for commercialized space.

  (5)  Retain an honest nonconflicted broker to manage the activities 
        and evaluate the value of national laboratory platform(s). This 
        construct is the same principle used for ground-based national 
        laboratories and is effective for fair practices in getting 
        ideas and products from lab to market.

  (6)  Reduce the regulatory burden for companies looking to operate in 
        space.

  (7)  Focus on cost-sharing partnerships by attracting and enabling 
        third-party investment opportunities in space research and 
        technology development (e.g., the ISS National Lab investor 
        network).

    Question 2. How does uncertainty about the future of the space 
station impact your efforts to grow commercial use of the space 
station? Have you noticed any hesitation from potential users or 
investors over the last few months?
    Answer. The FY 19PBR calls for the end of ISS direct funding by 
NASA by 2025. This perceived cliff, or uncertainty of the path forward 
for the continuation of the ISS, negatively impacts the long-term 
prospects for demand from industries. Companies are no longer 
incentivized to invest if they don't see a runway that coincides with 
their R&D timeline. For example, the time required to develop and test 
a new medication or make meaningful advances in tissue engineering is 
quite long, spanning several years. If an end to the ISS National Lab 
is perceived, it will discourage long-term investment in the lab, which 
will destabilize prospects for further LEO commercialization. Moreover, 
uncertainty about the future of the ISS National Lab could prevent the 
lab from being able to attract the top talent necessary to perform 
experiments and operate properly.
    Therefore, we believe any abrupt change in which the private sector 
is asked to assume the risk of managing the ISS without its uses 
defined will stunt the return on investment that the ISS National Lab 
currently creates for tax payers. We instead recommend a managed, 
gapless transition to the commercialization of LEO, in which 
policymakers, NASA, CASIS, the Department of Commerce, and private 
industry work together to define a timeline that is based on measured, 
proven commercialization techniques.
    When CASIS was created, we were an organization that literally had 
to pay for projects that would attract private-sector companies to 
participate in LEO R&D. Today, more than $140 million of non-CASIS/non-
NASA funding has directly paid for ISS National Lab projects. Although 
this trend is increasing, we are not yet at the point at which 
organizations are willing to pay for full project costs. We need more 
time and certainty in this market to achieve commercialization; 
however, we know that we can get there.

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