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ANTI-SEMITISM:
A GROWING THREAT TO ALL FAITHS
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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS
EDWARD R. ROYCE, California, Chairman
CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey ELIOT L. ENGEL, New York
ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida ENI F.H. FALEOMAVAEGA, American
DANA ROHRABACHER, California Samoa
STEVE CHABOT, Ohio BRAD SHERMAN, California
JOE WILSON, South Carolina GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York
MICHAEL T. McCAUL, Texas ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey
TED POE, Texas GERALD E. CONNOLLY, Virginia
MATT SALMON, Arizona THEODORE E. DEUTCH, Florida
TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania BRIAN HIGGINS, New York
JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina KAREN BASS, California
ADAM KINZINGER, Illinois WILLIAM KEATING, Massachusetts
MO BROOKS, Alabama DAVID CICILLINE, Rhode Island
TOM COTTON, Arkansas ALAN GRAYSON, Florida
PAUL COOK, California JUAN VARGAS, California
GEORGE HOLDING, North Carolina BRADLEY S. SCHNEIDER, Illinois
RANDY K. WEBER SR., Texas JOSEPH P. KENNEDY III,
SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania Massachusetts
STEVE STOCKMAN, Texas AMI BERA, California
RON DeSANTIS, Florida ALAN S. LOWENTHAL, California
TREY RADEL, Florida GRACE MENG, New York
DOUG COLLINS, Georgia LOIS FRANKEL, Florida
MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina TULSI GABBARD, Hawaii
TED S. YOHO, Florida JOAQUIN CASTRO, Texas
LUKE MESSER, Indiana
Amy Porter, Chief of Staff Thomas Sheehy, Staff Director
Jason Steinbaum, Democratic Staff Director
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Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights, and
International Organizations
CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey, Chairman
TOM MARINO, Pennsylvania KAREN BASS, California
RANDY K. WEBER SR., Texas DAVID CICILLINE, Rhode Island
STEVE STOCKMAN, Texas AMI BERA, California
MARK MEADOWS, North Carolina
C O N T E N T S
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WITNESSES
Katrina Lantos Swett, Ph.D., chair, U.S. Commission on
International Religious Freedom................................ 9
Mr. Eric Metaxas, author and commentator......................... 20
Zuhdi Jasser, M.D., president, American Islamic Forum for
Democracy...................................................... 26
Mr. John Garvey, president, The Catholic University of America... 39
Ms. Elisa Massimino, president and chief executive officer, Human
Rights First................................................... 45
Tamas Fellegi, Ph.D., managing partner, EuroAtlantic Solutions
(former Minister of National Development, Government of
Hungary)....................................................... 77
Mr. Willy Silberstein, chairman, Swedish Committee Against Anti-
Semitism....................................................... 85
Rabbi Andrew Baker, personal representative on combating anti-
Semitism, Office of the Chairperson-in-Office, Organization for
Security and Co-operation in Europe............................ 89
Rabbi David Meyer, professor of Rabbinic Literature and
Contemporary Jewish Thought, Pontifical Gregorian University... 119
Rabbi Yaakov Bleich, Chief Rabbi of Kiev and Ukraine............. 128
Mr. Andrew Srulevitch, director of European Affairs, Anti-
Defamation League.............................................. 133
LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC., SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING
The Honorable Christopher H. Smith, a Representative in Congress
from the State of New Jersey, and chairman, Subcommittee on
Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights, and International
Organizations: Prepared statement.............................. 4
Katrina Lantos Swett, Ph.D.: Prepared statement.................. 13
Mr. Eric Metaxas: Prepared statement............................. 23
Zuhdi Jasser, M.D.: Prepared statement........................... 29
Mr. John Garvey: Prepared statement.............................. 41
Ms. Elisa Massimino: Prepared statement.......................... 48
Tamas Fellegi, Ph.D.: Prepared statement......................... 80
Mr. Willy Silberstein: Prepared statement........................ 87
Rabbi Andrew Baker: Prepared statement........................... 92
Rabbi David Meyer: Prepared statement............................ 122
Rabbi Yaakov Bleich: Prepared statement.......................... 131
Mr. Andrew Srulevitch: Prepared statement........................ 135
APPENDIX
Hearing notice................................................... 170
Hearing minutes.................................................. 172
The Honorable Christopher H. Smith:..............................
Statement of Mr. Mark Weitzman, Director of Government Affairs,
Simon Wiesenthal Center...................................... 173
Statement of Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, President of Interfaith
Alliance..................................................... 178
ANTI-SEMITISM:
A GROWING THREAT TO ALL FAITHS
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WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2013
House of Representatives,
Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health,
Global Human Rights, and International Organizations
Committee on Foreign Affairs,
Washington, DC.
The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9 o'clock
a.m., in room 2172 Rayburn House Office Building, Hon.
Christopher H. Smith (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
Mr. Smith. The committee will come to order, and good
morning to everyone. Thank you for being here bright and early.
And I want to welcome you to this, what I believe and we
believe to be a very important hearing on anti-Semitism and
combating anti-Semitism, with a particular emphasis on Europe.
At a congressional hearing that I chaired in 2002 on
combating anti-Semitism, Dr. Shimon Samuels of the Wiesenthal
Center in Paris testified and said, ``The Holocaust for 30
years after the war acted as a protective teflon against
blatant anti-Semitic expression, especially in Europe. That
teflon,'' he said, ``has eroded, and what was considered
distasteful and politically incorrect is becoming simply an
opinion. But,'' he warned ominously, ``cocktail chatter at fine
English dinners can end in Molotov cocktails against
synagogues.''
In response to what appeared to be a sudden frightening
spike in anti-Semitism in several countries, including here in
the United States, we first proposed the idea for a conference
on combating anti-Semitism under the auspices of the
Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Convinced
we had an escalating crisis on our hands, we teamed with
several OSCE partners to push for action and reform. Many of
the people and the NGOs present in this room played a leading
part.
Rabbi Baker will remember so well how we worked on several
important initiatives including language and plans of action.
These efforts directly led to important OSCE conferences on
combating anti-Semitism. As I think many of you know, they
occurred in places like Vienna, Berlin, Cordoba, and Bucharest.
In each of those, participating states made solemn, tangible
commitments to put our words into action. In some countries
progress has been made, yet the scope and outcome of anti-
Semitic acts has not abated in others, and in some nations it
has actually gotten worse.
That is why we are here today, to review, to recommit, and
to reenergize efforts to vanquish the highly disturbing
resurgence of anti-Semitism everywhere, including in Europe.
Unparalleled since the dark days of the Second World War,
Jewish communities on a global scale are facing verbal
harassment and sometimes violent attacks against synagogues,
Jewish cultural sites, cemeteries, and individuals. It is an
ugly reality that won't go away by ignoring it or by wishing it
away. It must be defeated. Thus, we gather to enlighten,
motivate, and share best practices on how not just to mitigate
this centuries old obsession, but to crush this pernicious form
of hate.
From our first panel of witnesses we are going to hear how
anti-Semitism directly threats not only Jews, but also
Christians and Muslims and democracy and civil society. We are
all in this together. When we fight anti-Semitism it is not
only a matter of justice for Jewish fellow citizens, but also
standing up for Christianity and for Islam and for the
possibility of a decent living itself. We all have a direct
stake in the fight against anti-Semitism.
This is tragically clear in the Middle East countries where
the governments propagate anti-Semitism as an official or
quasi-official idealogy. These governments incite anti-Semitic
hatred of Israel in order to distract the people from their own
tyrannical rule and from their own abuse of human rights,
denial of democracy, economic corruption and the like. Sadly,
it works. We see this in governments as varied as those of Iran
and Egypt, Pakistan and Syria and Saudi Arabia, and the list of
course doesn't end there. Tens of millions of people who live
in these communities are in this sense suffering from anti-
Semitism. Few of them are Jewish. Most are Muslims. Millions
are Christian. It is true that to some degree or other, many of
the people in these countries have bought into the evil of
anti-Semitism, but many thankfully have not.
From our second panel we are also going to hear reports
from a number of European Jewish leaders who will be able to
tell us firsthand about anti-Semitism in their countries and
the region, and how the governments are responding and whether
these responses are effective and adequate. Sadly, in much of
Europe the harassment of Jews including verbal and physical
violence continues to increase, and a recent Anti-Defamation
League study shows that anti-Semitic attitudes are widespread
in Europe and getting worse in many countries.
One thing the witnesses will address is whether elected
officials are fulfilling their responsibility to speak out
publicly against any expression of anti-Semitic hate. When the
national leaders fail to denounce anti-Semitic violence and
slurs the void is not only demoralizing to the victims, but
silence actually enables the wrongdoing. Silence by elected
officials in particular conveys approval or at least
acquiescence and can contribute to a climate of fear and a
profound sense of vulnerability.
Another point we have to consider is whether the countries
are collecting reliable hate crime information. We can't fight
anti-Semitic crimes effectively unless we have reliable
information on them. The most recent figures from the United
States, for example, which are collected by the FBI, show that
Jews, although they are only 2 percent of the United States'
population, they are the victims of 63 percent of religiously
targeted hate crimes. An additional concern is the importance
of Holocaust education. If we are to protect our children from
the dark evil of anti-Semitism we must reeducate ourselves and
systematically educate our children. While that starts in our
homes, the classroom must be an incubator of tolerance and
respect. It seems to me only the most hardened racist can
remain unmoved by Holocaust education and remembrance. Only the
most crass, evil, and prejudiced among us can study the horrors
of the Holocaust and not cry out, never again.
Yet another concern is the rise of the new anti-Semitism,
which tries to pass itself off as legitimate criticism of
Israel, but which demonizes, delegitimizes, and applies double
standards against Israel--former Soviet refusenik Natan
Sharansky's three ``d''s. In any case, this form of anti-
Semitism appears to be spreading among European social
democratic and leftist parties as well as among Muslim
immigrants from the Middle East, and I would like to hear the
views of our distinguished witnesses on that as well.
I look forward to our witnesses' statements, and I would
ask that my full statement be made a part of the record.
Without objection, that and all of my colleagues, their full
statements will be made a part of the record. I would like to
now yield to Mr. Cicilline.
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Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for
holding today's hearing. And thank you also to our ranking
member, Congresswoman Bass, for convening this important
hearing, and thank you to our witnesses.
Fostering religious understanding and combating anti-
Semitism is a critical and very important challenge. In the
United States, the work we do internationally to protect the
human rights of people of every faith is a reflection of our
nation's values and founding principles. We are all of course
familiar with the historical consequences of anti-Semitism
especially when it is infused with a political dimension. The
purpose of this hearing is absolutely essential. It is very
important to discuss the impact anti-Semitism has on the global
understanding and the rights of all people.
And so I want to just welcome the witnesses who are here
today, to thank you for participating in this hearing on this
very important topic. I look forward to hearing your diverse
and global perspectives. I think we all recognize that the rise
of anti-Semitism is deeply troubling, and considering what
actions we can take to respond to this phenomenon, what public
policies we can implement, what educational policies we can
promote to help to eradicate anti-Semitism all over the world
should be our focus. And I thank you to the extent you are
going to contribute to that discussion, and I welcome you to
the hearing today.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
Mr. Smith. Thank you, my friend. I would like to yield to
Mr. Marino, former U.S. Attorney from Pennsylvania, and a
member of this committee.
Mr. Marino. I yield back. I have no opening statement.
Mr. Smith. Mr. Bera?
Mr. Bera. Mr. Chairman, thank you for holding this hearing.
As we are going to hear, anti-Semitism and hate crimes continue
to plague our nation and the world. In 2011, over 1,080 cases
were reported nationwide. Unfortunately, my community in
Sacramento knows firsthand the dangers of this form of hatred.
This weekend I had the privilege of visiting Congregation Beth
Shalom, a synagogue in Carmichael, California, for Purim
celebrations. There I witnessed a vibrant and joyful community
celebrating their faith. However, just 14 years ago this
community was victimized by anti-Semitic arsonists who burned
three synagogues. Congregation Beth Shalom as well as B'nai
Israel and Kenesset Israel Torah Center were victims of these
senseless attacks.
Our community is all too aware of the threat that anti-
Semitism poses to freedom in this country and around the world.
These attacks in 1999 came as a shock. They served as a cruel
reminder that the desire to erase the Jewish people and their
culture persists. At B'nai Israel, a community founded in 1849
and the oldest congregational-owned synagogue west of the
Mississippi River, more than 5,000 books were destroyed.
Ancient, irreplaceable judaica were lost in the fire, and a
community of believers peacefully practicing their faith were
deeply shaken.
An intern in my office attends Beth Shalom, the
congregation that I visited this weekend. She was only 6 years
old at the time of the attacks. Her parents struggled to
explain why anyone would do something so awful to the good
people they knew, friends, family, neighbors. Just days after
the arson, a unity rally was held at the Sacramento Community
Center. More than 5,000 people of all faiths came to support
the synagogues. The congregation received hundreds of cards,
donations, and a community pulling together. Signs that read
``United We Stand'' could be seen in windows throughout
Sacramento. As we know in Sacramento firsthand, battling anti-
Semitism is going to be an ongoing struggle.
Mr. Chairman, thank you again for convening this important
hearing, and thank you to the witnesses for telling us how we
are going to continue this battle. I yield back my time.
Mr. Smith. Thank you very much. I would like to now yield
to Mr. Meadows.
Mr. Meadows. I just want to thank each one of you for being
here on this critical issue as we address it, and thank you,
Mr. Chairman, for holding this hearing. As we look at this, one
of the things that I hope each one of you can address is how so
many times we publicly say that this is something that we can't
stand, but yet quietly we tolerate it. And so what we need to
do is make sure that not only our rhetoric is matched by our
actions, but what we need to do not only as a nation, but as a
leader in the world to highlight this particular issue.
The other part of that is, is there has been much emphasis
played on the economic role and how that exacerbates this
problem. And while history shows that there certainly is an
economic component to it, as we see the nation of Israel we
have got a 10,000 square mile nation that has no oil, no gold,
no iron, and yet it is surrounded by 5.2 million square miles
of oil-rich country and they are seen as the agressor, which is
not actually the case.
And so even though there may be an economic component to
it, what I would love to see from each one of you and would
welcome hearing is how that we can address this and highlight
the atrocities that are happening over and over, and what is
the causal effect of that and how through an international body
perhaps that we can put influence or pressure to bear to
highlight this so that it doesn't continue to be tolerated in
our world. Thank you so much. I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Meadows. Mr. Weber?
Mr. Weber. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding the
meeting, and I echo the same sentiments and remarks. I will be
committed to eliminating anti-Semitism around the world. The
United States stood tall once before, and I look forward to
being part of standing tall once again. Thank you very much.
Mr. Smith. Thank you, Mr. Weber, very much. It is now a
privilege to introduce our first panel. But before I do that I
do want to acknowledge the presence of Annette Lantos, the
wife, and very distinguished in her own right, but the wife of
our former chairman, Tom Lantos, who we all deeply miss. And
our first witness will be Katrina Lantos Swett who is Tom and
Annette's daughter.
Dr. Katrina Lantos Swett is the chair of the United States
Commission on International Religious Freedom, an independent
U.S. Government commission that monitors the universal rights
to freedom of religion, and belief, abroad. She established the
Lantos Foundation for Human Rights and Justice in 2008, and
serves as its president and chief executive officer, carrying
on the unique and tremendous legacy of her father, the late
Congressman Tom Lantos.
We will then hear from Eric Metaxas who is the author of
the best-selling books including ``Bonhoeffer'' and ``Amazing
Grace: William Wilberforce''--who is a personal hero of mine--
``and the Heroic Campaign to End Slavery''; and more than than
30 other books. A very, very prolific and effective writer. He
is currently the voice of BreakPoint, a radio commentary. He
was the keynote speaker at the 2012 National Prayer Breakfast,
and was awarded the Canterbury Medal in 2011 by the Becket Fund
for Religious Freedom.
We will then hear from Zuhdi Jasser who is the founder and
president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, and is
the author of ``A Battle for the Soul of Islam: An American
Muslim Patriot's Fight to Save His Faith.'' Dr. Jasser is a
first-generation American Muslim whose parents fled the
oppressive Ba'ath Regime in Syria. He earned his medical degree
on a U.S. Navy scholarship and served 11 years in the U.S.
Navy. Dr. Jasser currently serves on the U.S. Commission on
International Religious Freedom.
We will then hear from John Garvey who is the president of
the Catholic University of America. Mr. Garvey was the dean of
Boston College Law School and the president of the Association
of American Law Schools. He has practiced law and taught at
Notre Dame, Michigan, and Kentucky. He is the author or co-
author of numerous books including ``Religion and the
Constitution,'' which won the Alpha Sigma Nu Jesuit book award;
and he has won the Catholic Press Association award for another
work that he authored.
Then we will hear from Elisa Massimino who has been the
president and chief executive officer of Human Rights First,
and no stranger to this subcommittee. She helped establish the
Washington office in 1991, and served as the organization's
Washington director from 1997 to 2008. She has served as pro
bono counsel in many human rights cases, testified before this
committee and others more than a dozen times, and is published
frequently. The Hill has repeatedly named her as one of the top
20 public advocates in the country.
A very distinguished list; I would like to now ask Dr.
Lantos Swett if she would proceed.
STATEMENT OF KATRINA LANTOS SWETT, PH.D., CHAIR, U.S.
COMMISSION ON INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
Ms. Lantos Swett. Thank you very much. It is a great honor
for me to be here today. It is a great honor to appear with
this distinguished panel of witnesses. And of course, Mr.
Chairman, we all know that you are among the most valiant and
courageous defenders of human rights in all their forms and for
all people everywhere that our country has known, and so it is
a particular pleasure for me to be here testifying before you.
And lastly, I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge my father
there gazing down upon me. Certainly my personal hero and
someone who as the only survivor of the Holocaust ever to serve
in this body, his presence is with us here today and I know he
is incredibly grateful to know that these hearings are taking
place.
I would like to ask, Mr. Chairman, that the full text of my
remarks be entered in the record, because in the interest of
time I probably won't be able to deliver every word as written.
Mr. Smith. Without objection, so ordered.
Ms. Lantos Swett. Thank you so much. In light of today's
hearing it is fitting to note that just a few days ago, last
Sunday, Jews around the world celebrated the annual festival of
Purim. As related in the biblical Book of Esther, Purim is the
story of how the Jews of the Persian Empire, nearly 25
centuries ago, faced the danger of imminent extermination at
the hands of Haman, the King's prime minister. This ancient
threat represents the first known plot to entirely destroy the
Jewish people. Through a dramatic turn of events, and may I say
through the courage and cleverness of beautiful Esther, the
plot was thwarted and the Jewish people were delivered from
destruction.
It is ironic indeed that in today's Persia, which we now
call Iran, its current leaders follow in Haman's footsteps by
expressing their own form of vicious anti-Semitism and their
avowed determination to wipe Israel, the Jewish homeland, off
the map. Top officials have denied the reality of the Nazi
Holocaust, the most serious effort in history to obliterate the
Jewish people. As the daughter of Holocaust survivors I can
testify as to how surreal it is for a people to have to defend
themselves in this day and age not only against hateful
attitudes and behaviors, but also against those who try to
dissuade others from believing that 6 million people were
killed for the sole crime of being Jews.
Unfortunately, anti-Semitism remains a phenomenon that
knows no national boundaries. I was recently confronted with
the reality of this during an official USCIRF visit to Egypt.
One of the most dramatic moments of that visit to Egypt was
when I sat across at a very close distance from a high official
in the Morsi government and personally confronted him on some
of President Morsi's recently unearthed statements in which he
says that we must nurse our children and grandchildren on
hatred of the Jews down to the last generation and in which he
referred to Jews as the descendants of apes and pigs. I said to
that minister, your President was calling on hatred of me down
to the last generation. Your President was saying that I and my
seven children are the descendants of apes and pigs. This is
not the conduct of a civilized people. These are not the words
of a civilized man. This is a stain upon the honor of Egypt. A
stain upon the character of your nation, and it must stop.
I share that experience because I think in some sense it
holds the key to the answer that we are all seeking today, how
do we confront anti-Semitism? It is awkward. It is
uncomfortable. It is personal. It is direct. It is tense. We
don't shrug our shoulders, we don't--to borrow a phrase from
President Bush--sort of indulge in the bigotry, soft bigotry of
low expectations and say, well, it is the Muslim world. We will
shrug our shoulders and kind of just move on and get to the
more serious discussions. We face it. We confront it. I am
going to return to my written remarks here.
Anti-Semitism remains a phenomenon that as I say knows no
national boundaries. Through vigilance and wakefulness we have
tried to confront it in every corner and in every country and
in every region of the world. And in Europe the enormity of the
Holocaust compelled Europe's peoples to begin the critical task
of self-examination, confronting hateful action stemming from
poisonous attitudes and beliefs which permeated Europe for
nearly 17 centuries, helping to demonize the people and
preparing the way for the unthinkable. This painful realization
of how homegrown hatred sowed the seeds for genocide remains a
significant force in Europe today. Yet now, nearly 70 years
after the Holocaust, the fact remains that across Europe, from
East to West, anti-Semitism lives and is gaining momentum.
I know that time is short and I don't want to overstep my
time, so instead of detailing, as I think some of my fellow
witnesses will, the incredibly broad scope of examples of anti-
Semitism across Europe, I would like to speak briefly about the
perpetrators and the enablers of these very disturbing acts.
The perpetrators of these acts across Europe and elsewhere
largely are individuals or members of groups who are deeply
hostile to democracy and pluralism. Some are neo-Nazis who
express their admiration for Adolph Hitler. Others are racist
skinhead groups active in many countries, and many are violent
religious extremists who distort the religion of Islam to suit
their own intolerant political aims. Compounding this problem
are four critical factors.
First, while the number of Europeans participating in anti-
Semitic acts is minuscule, nearly every recent survey on anti-
Semitism in Europe shows that negative attitudes toward Jews
among Europe's population remains surprisingly widespread.
Second, these surveys show that to an alarming degree at least
some of this bias against Jews masquerades, as you said Mr.
Chairman, as criticism of the State of Israel. While we know
that no country is beyond reproach for its particular policies,
when criticism takes the form of language that seeks to
delegitimize, demonize and apply a double standard to that
nation, then we have to insist on calling it what it is, anti-
Semitism. We must unmask it.
I am reminded of how persistent this problem has been. Back
in 1968, the non-Jewish writer Eric Hoffer put it well when he
wrote, ``Other nations when they are victorious dictate peace
terms, but when Israel is victorious it must sue for peace.''
He added, ``Everyone expects the Jews to be the only Christians
in this world.'' Very penetrating comment, I think.
A third factor, European governments initially were slow to
respond to the threat posed to Jews, and even now according to
a number of Jewish community leaders and public officials,
often at the local level leadership remains reluctant to
identify publicly the ideological or religious identity or
motivation of some of the perpetrators of anti-Semitic acts.
And this lackadaisical attitude has contributed to a climate of
complacency vis-a-vis this issue.
Finally, as USCIRF has documented and articulated, a number
of European governments along with certain political parties
are complicating matters by supporting initiatives that single
out certain Jewish religious practices for restriction. In at
least four countries, Iceland, Norway, Sweden and Switzerland,
kosher slaughter is flatly banned. Authorities and political
forces in Norway and Germany have also tried to ban infant male
circumcision. To be sure, the driving force behind such
restrictions, which also affect Muslims, is not primarily anti-
Semitism per se. It is more directly related to a tendency in
some Western European countries to replace monolithic state
religions with monolithic secular ideologies.
And we see that this agressive secularism in some instances
targets traditional Christianity and Islam as well. In both
instances past and present, Judaism and other minority belief
systems are left on the outside. Nonetheless, this drive to ban
kosher slaughter and circumcision evokes tragic images of much
darker days for Jews in Europe. At the very least, such efforts
reveal a chilling indifference to the Jewish historical
experience in Europe. The end result is that the atmosphere
throughout Europe today is one in which Jewish communities feel
insecure and threatened, and the general population seems
dangerously complacent and even comfortable with widespread,
open manifestations of anti-Semitism.
I know we are going to have the opportunity to discuss
solutions and answers in our later discussion, so let me close,
if I may, with one more paraphrase from Eric Hoffer, this
former longshoreman and social philosopher. He wrote, and I am
paraphrasing him here a bit, ``I have a premonition that will
not leave me. As it goes with the Jews so will it go with all
of us. Should the Jews perish, the Holocaust will be upon us
all.'' Thank you very much.
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Mr. Smith. Dr. Lantos Swett, thank you for that very
powerful statement.
But now I will ask Mr. Metaxas if he will proceed.
STATEMENT OF MR. ERIC METAXAS, AUTHOR AND COMMENTATOR
Mr. Metaxas. First of all, let me thank you all for the
invitation to be here this morning. I grew up in America but my
parents are immigrants from war-torn Europe, from Greece and
Germany, respectively. They inculcated in me a great pride in
their adopted country, so to testify here is for me a high
privilege indeed.
This morning I testify as an American and as a Christian.
What it is to be an American and what it is to be Christian can
be tremendously misunderstood, so let me be clear here as I set
out in stating that I believe that in the true sense both of
these identities, American and Christian, are identities that
are not tribalistic, but that bring with them a sense of
obligation for others and a perspective that is by definition
focused on others. For example, to be an American is not to be
part of any ethnic group but to be part of something that
transcends ethnicity. To be an American is to buy in to an idea
that pluralism is good and that a multiplicity of peoples and
ideologies and races and religions can coexist. This is at the
heart of the American experiment. And to be an American is to
buy in to the idea that not only can they coexist, but that in
coexisting civilly they will add up to a sum far greater than
their parts. To be a Christian is likewise to know that one is
not part of an ethnic group but of a group that transcends and
potentially includes all ethnic groups. So true Americans and
true Christians can never be tribalists or racists. If we ever
put one group above another group we are denying ourselves and
the core beliefs that make us Americans or Christians.
I have written a biography of the great German pastor,
Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who spoke up for the Jews when very few
Germans were doing so, and we have to ask, why did he do that?
Why did he risk his life, for example, to get seven Jews out of
Germany and into neutral Switzerland so that their lives might
be saved? Bonhoeffer stood up for the Jews for one reason,
because he was a Christian, not a mere churchgoer, not a mere
Gentile, but a Christian. Bonhoeffer famously once said that
only he who speaks out for the Jews can sing Gregorian chants.
In other words, anyone who claims to be Christian and does not
do whatever he can to help the persecuted Jews has no right to
claim to be a Christian. That person is only a hypocrite and a
betrayer of the Christian faith.
But why? Is this merely an assertion by me and by
Bonhoeffer? Well, no, because at the heart of the Christian
faith is this idea that God blesses us so that we might bless
others. He gives us whatever he gives us for others. Indeed, it
is in Genesis that God states this in the context of making the
first Jew, Abraham. He says he will bless Abrahan so that
Abraham can bless others. He will bless the Jews and he chooses
the Jews. The Christian believes that God chose the Jews as his
own people so that out of them he might bring himself to the
whole world beyond the Jews. That he might out of the Jewish
people raise up his Messiah. And so the Jews are blessed to be
a blessing, chosen out of all groups in the world to bless the
whole world.
The Bible also says every human being is made in God's
image and God loves us equally, so to serve God we must serve
others. In fact, Bonhoeffer says that Jesus Christ is the Man
for others. The self-giving ``agape'' love of Jesus is the love
that gives at the expense of one's self, knowing that whatever
we do to bless others God will replenish. So to be a Christian
is to love and serve others, specifically others different from
us.
When Hitler began persecuting Jews in earnest in 1933,
Bonhoeffer wrote an essay titled, ``The Church and the Jewish
Question,'' declaring that it was the duty of German Christians
to stand up for the Jews, indeed for any group being
persecuted. But this is an American belief too, although I
daresay you can guess where we got it from. America is not a
democracy, but a republic. Majorities do not decide what is
true. In America, minorities are protected when necessary
because we believe what the Bible teaches, that some truths are
transcendent and not subject to plebiscite, and one of those
ideas is the dignity of every human being despite his beliefs
or racial or ethnic makeup. We are inherently sacred because we
are made in God's image. So God commands every Christian to
stand up for those being treated unjustly or persecuted in any
way, and in America we have enshrined that into our very laws.
So today as a Christian and as an American I declare that
anyone who sees things from a tribalist or racist perspective,
and anti-Semitism is one especially prominent expression of
this, then that person declares himself not to understand the
Christian faith and not to be a Christian. The true Christian
knows that his enemy is not the Jew, but his enemy is the enemy
of the Jew.
One final point. Throughout history Gentiles, which is to
say those who are not Jewish, have often been confused with
Christians. Often they have themselves encouraged and
participated in this confusion. But a mere Gentile is no
Christian. All dedicated Nazis were Gentiles. None were
Christians. To be a Christian is to know that you have,
according to the New Testament, been grafted in to the Jewish
faith. Your Messiah and your God, Jesus, is a Jew and all of
his disciples are Jews. On Kristallnacht in 1938, Bonhoeffer
for the first time made the very dramatic leap into seeing an
attack on Jews as an attack on God Himself. So Christians who
think of themselves as some tribal group in opposition to Jews
are profoundly deluded.
To demonize any group based on what they believe or their
ethnic makeup is to admit that one's beliefs are not in the God
of the Bible but in a counterfeit god who is, in fact, the
ancient enemy of that God. Not to stand up to attacks against
any group, especially Jews, is to deny the transcendent truths
that we are all created in God's image with certain inalienable
rights. Bonhoeffer said that ``Silence in the face of evil is
itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to
speak. Not to act is to act.'' So to do nothing when anti-
Semitism raises its head is to hasten the death of civil
society for everyone.
Everyone who has the privilege to call himself a Christian
or an American must stand against these things, and not just
stand against them but take action against them. We must recall
the words of Bonhoeffer's friend, Martin Niemoller, who wrote
his famous poem.
``First they came for the Communists, and I didn't
speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came
for the socialists, and I didn't speak out because I
wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the trade
unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a
trade unionist. And then they came for me, and there
was no one left to speak for me.''
Niemoller himself did not speak up until it was too late, and
his poem cautions us to speak out when any group is being
persecuted. This is the right thing and the American thing and
the Christian thing to do. God commands it.
Thank you.
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Mr. Smith. Thank you for that very powerful statement as
well, and for providing us a refresher course on the model of
Bonhoeffer, which we all need to emulate. Thank you so very
much.
Dr. Jasser?
STATEMENT OF ZUHDI JASSER, M.D., PRESIDENT, AMERICAN ISLAMIC
FORUM FOR DEMOCRACY
Dr. Jasser. Thank you, Chairman Smith and Ranking Member
Bass, distinguished members of the committee for seeking my
testimony. I must first thank the committee for taking the time
to focus on this very important issue of anti-Semitism and its
important role as a canary in the coal mine, if you will, for
the threat against all people, all faiths, and liberty. Our
organization, the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, is
dedicated as a Muslim organization in the mission to the
advancement of liberty through the separation of mosque and
state. My comments are abridged and I submit the full comments
to the record.
Anti-Semitism is not just another symptom from a radical
fringe of Islamist groups. It runs much deeper. This body has
been fearless in exposing anti-Semitism in Europe and the West.
It is time to do the same with the role in which Islamism or
political Islam plays upon anti-Semitism around the world, as
it also impacts the West. Islamists have utilized the viral
spread of anti-Semitic imagery and demonization of Jews as a
tool among Muslim majority communities and nations against a
common enemy they fabricate. Beneath Islamist hatred of Jews
lies a more global supremacism that treats all minorities,
whether Shia, Ahmadiyya, Ismailis, or dissenting Sunnis, like
myself, from within the faith and other minorities outside, the
same, simply as tools to be inhumanly exploited.
Anti-Semitism runs rampant on the fertile soil of Islamism.
What is our challenge before us here today? We can help the
non-Islamist reformers change that soil or we can sit back and
watch the Islamists--in Egypt, the Brotherhood; in Tunisia, al-
Nahda; in Saudi Arabia, the Wahhabis; in Iran, the Khomeinists;
or Pakistan, the Deobandis--fertilize and till the hate-filled
soil into a greater threat. Make no mistake. The departure of
Arab fascist dictators and Arab Awakening was a necessary step
forward in a long journey toward democracy, and there is still
many more of them to go. But societies with rampant anti-
Semitism, conspiracy theories, and hate of Western democracies
cannot succeed and will always fail.
Already the Muslim Brotherhood now in power is buckling
down on free speech and blasphemy worse than they were under
Mubarak. But please understand though, while Islamism is
popular, upwards of 30-40 percent at times, it is not a
majority movement. But what I am sure you know is that the hate
of anti-Semitism is sadly more popular and is a majority
sentiment. Islamists invoke common cause with secularism, the
hatred of Jews and the West, and are able to dodge national
introspection and build shallow coalitions on that hate.
Let us look at the numbers. A Pew poll in 2006 stated that
the anti-Jewish sentiment is endemic in the Muslim world. In
Lebanon, all Muslims and 99 percent of Christians say they have
an unfavorable view of Jews. Ninety-nine percent of Jordanians,
large majorities of Moroccans, Indonesians, Pakistanis, and
six-in-ten Turks also view Jews unfavorably. Egyptian TV has
long aired the hateful forgery of their protocols, and Al
Jazeera, the most watched Muslim media in the world, has
countless sermons and programs vilifying Jews and Israel. And
Al Jazeera media group just purchased for $0.5 billion, access
into American living rooms.
With vast global connections in Arabic social and
traditional media, Muslim populations in Europe and the United
States are impacted by Islamist propaganda. The Pew showed in
2006 that Muslims in Europe hold a far more unfavorable
opinions of Jews than the general population. In Britain, 47
percent of Muslims held unfavorable views compared to 7 percent
of the general public. In France, 28 percent of Muslim versus
13 percent of the general public. In Germany, 44 percent of
Muslims versus 22 percent of the general public. We have been
absent in the defense of liberty in these populations that
haunts us over there and right here in the West.
As hate leads population shifts will follow. From nearly 1
million Jews in the Arab region around 1950, there are 20,000
left. Over 2 million Christians have recently left the Middle
East. Anti-Semitism is obviously the gateway drug that takes
societies away from diverse liberal democracies and moves them
closer to homogeneous, oppressive autocracies which abuse
minorities. If we sit here and tolerate any less from Muslim
communities than we do for ourselves in respect to anti-
Semitism and the principles embodied in the universal
declaration of human rights, we are participating not only in a
form of a denial but, I believe, in subtle bigotry.
The reality is that Muslim imams, scholars, and activists
with the courage to publicly take on anti-Semitism of the
Islamists are far too few. They have neither the platforms, the
attention, nor the backing which petro-funded Islamist think
tanks and linked movements do around the world. Last January an
Arabic al-Qaeda jihadi forum attacked me as an enemy of Islam,
and actually in its attack said that I am part of the devil
that is known for its Zionism. This is all too common and it is
how they marginalize their antagonists and avoid substantive
debate, use anti-Semitism to attack other Muslims.
Sheikh Qaradawi, who is known throughout the world as one
of the preeminent Sunni leaders, globally in his program on Al
Jazeera to over 60 million followers, said the last punishment
was carried out by Hitler. This was the divine punishment for
them, in reference to the Jews. Allah willing, the next time
will be at the hand of the believers. Qaradawi returned to
Egypt as Khomeini returned to Iran after the Egyptian
revolution.
Lastly, the Saudis spent tens of billions of dollars
throughout the world to pump Wahhabism or petro-Islam, a
particularly virulent and militant version of supremacist
Islamism. An endless list of terror groups use their ideology
from al-Qaeda, Hammas, Lashkar-e-Taiba to many in their
madrassahs and mosques that are influenced by Wahhabi
materials. A ninth grade Saudi textbook described Jews as ``the
apes of people of the Sabbath, the Jews; and the swine are
infidels of the communion of Jesus and Christians.'' And
remember, even if they do remove parts of the textbooks with
this, you cannot reform by deletion or white-out, it needs deep
self critique and wholesale abandonment of Islamism for
liberty.
I leave you last with solutions to consider. Number one, we
must engage and take sides in the battle of ideas against
Islamism by reviving our public diplomacy and support of
universal human rights whether it is popular in their societies
or not. We need to systemically expose, name and shame the
anti-Semitism behaviors and ideas promulgated by Islamist
movements including all forms of hatred against Jews,
conspiracies, and anti-Americanism. Anti-Semitic ideas are not
isolated incidents to be simply condemned and dismissed. We
should expose their root cause, foremost of which amongst
Muslims is Islamism.
And we must work to provide platforms for courageous reform
based civil society organizations which work against anti-
Semitism, and this is what I talk about in my book, ``A Battle
for the Soul of Islam.'' And we must conversely disengage
proudly from Islamist groups. We must end the climate of
political correctness and subtle bigotry which gives Muslims a
pass on accountability for hate-filled ideas.
We must not be seen as advocating liberty only at home and
turning a blind eye to anti-Semitism from our so-called allies.
And we must confront Islamist groups and leaders in Europe with
what Prime Minister David Cameron called ``muscular
liberalism.'' And as my colleagues have already stated, hyper-
secularists in Europe attack the faithful of all faiths.
Islamists thrive under the deception that Muslims have no other
option than to lean toward Islamism.
Thank you.
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Mr. Smith. Dr. Jasser, thank you very much for that very
important contribution, and for reminding this committee, and I
think the country, and I hope the press and everyone else. In
the way you not only presented your testimony, I do hope
everybody will read your entire testimony and see that Muslims
are speaking out. You are one of the most bravest doing so, but
speaking out in a way that really defends all people--Jews,
Christians, Muslims themselves--but to do so in a way that
really calls us to action, and the executive as well as the
congressional branch. Thank you so much, Dr. Jasser.
Mr. Garvey?
STATEMENT OF MR. JOHN GARVEY, PRESIDENT, THE CATHOLIC
UNIVERSITY OF AMERICA
Mr. Garvey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Anti-Semitism is so
obviously wrong that I feel almost sheepish making arguments
against it, but here we are. So I want to elaborate on three
points which I hope you will not find unnecessarily self-
evident. First, anti-Semitism is intrinsically wrong. It
violates human dignity because it denies the right to religious
freedom. The Catholic Church calls this our first, most
cherished liberty. James Madison argued that the right is
unalienable because what is here a right toward men is a duty
toward our Creator. The Catholic Church actively seeks its
protection regardless of the faith in question. This is why the
American bishops lent their strong support to the International
Religious Freedom Act in 1998.
Anti-Semitism also violates human dignity by denying the
right of equality. Here is what the Second Vatican Council
said, ``The Church reproves, as foreign to the mind of Christ,
any discrimination against men or harassment of them because of
their race, color, condition of life, or religion.'' Allow me
to add a further refinement. The Catholic Church is especially
concerned about anti-Semitism because we are one family in the
Abrahamic tradition. Catholics call fellow Christians their
brothers and sisters in faith. Pope Benedict describes the Jews
as ``our fathers in faith.'' We share with them the Hebrew
scriptures, and our traditions of prayer are rooted in that
book. Together we worship the God of Abraham.
Anti-Semitism is an attack on our family. This familial
outlook has led our last two popes to make powerful gestures of
solidarity with the Jewish people. Pope John Paul II used a
powerful image to condemn the legacy of anti-Semitism when he
said during his historic homily at Brzezinka that the
concentration camp is the ``Golgotha of the modern world.''
Second, anti-Semitism is not just wrong for Jews; it puts
other faiths at risk. This is so, first of all, because the
arguments that support anti-Semitism may be deployed with equal
force against other faiths. The descriptions used to disparage
Jewish communities 100 years ago--that they were clannish,
insular, didn't fit in, brought their outsider status on
themselves--may be used against Muslims in France today. Their
offense, it will be said, is not that they are Muslims. It is
that they speak a foreign tongue, dress in inappropriate ways,
dispute the principle of laicite, favor the prospering of
foreign states over France.
The patterns of violence that have historically
characterized anti-Semitism are unfortunately familiar to
Christians today. Anti-Christian sentiment in some parts of the
world, like anti-Semitism, is rooted in a dislike of religious
belief. It manifests itself in similar ways. Pope Benedict XVI
described it in an address to the diplomatic corps last year:
``In many countries, Christians are deprived of
fundamental rights; in other countries they endure
violent attacks against their churches and their homes.
At times they are forced to leave the countries they
have helped to build because of persistent tensions and
policies which frequently relegate them to being
second-class spectators of national life.''
Here is a second cause of harm to other faiths. Anti-
Semitism can make the world a more hostile place for other
religions through a strategy of divide and conquer. Anti-
Semitism does not attack belief itself. It focuses its
attention on a particular group of believers. When they are
intimidated into silence, the strength of the cohort of
believers is reduced to that degree. Here is how James Madison
saw the danger. ``It is proper,'' he said, ``to take alarm at
the first experiment on our liberties. Who does not see that
the same authority which can establish Christianity, in
exclusion of all other religions, may establish with the same
ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all
other sects?''
Third, like other cancers, anti-Semitism spreads its poison
to all parts of the body politic. A society that tolerates
anti-Semitism cannot maintain a healthy democracy. First, as a
matter of historical fact, the western commitment to political
liberty grew out of our acceptance of religious toleration.
John Neville Figgis, the student of Lord Acton, famously said
that ``political liberty is the residuary legatee of
ecclesiastical animosities.'' Our success in living with
religious differences gave us a lesson in tolerating political
differences, and a hope that we could surmount them. If we are
passive in the face of anti-Semitism we risk running our
constitutional evolution in reverse.
Second, as the late Ronald Dworkin was fond of pointing
out, democracy rests on a commitment to equality. Anti-
Semitism, like racism, denies this. We saw this in our own
treatment of African Americans. The original Constitution
treated slaves as less than fully human. Dred Scott held that
slaves were not citizens. A society that tolerates anti-
Semitism behaves in a similar way and is not worthy to be
recognized as a democracy.
Third, such a society can make no claim to be a liberal
democracy. The defining characteristic of a liberal democracy
is its commitment to liberty. Our own Supreme Court has held
that the fundamental concept of liberty comprises an absolute
freedom to adhere to such religious organization or a form of
worship as the individual may choose. To persecute a people for
their religious belief and form of worship is to deny the most
fundamental commitment of a liberal democracy.
Thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to offer
a few thoughts on an issue of such concern to us.
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Mr. Smith. Thank you very much for your testimony. You
profoundly state how anti-Semitism is intrinsically wrong, and
as a Catholic your point that anti-Semitism is an attack on our
family as well certainly rings true. And I think that and
believe that goes for all faiths. But thank you for your
extraordinary testimony.
Ms. Massimino?
STATEMENT OF MS. ELISA MASSIMINO, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE
OFFICER, HUMAN RIGHTS FIRST
Ms. Massimino. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. I
appreciate the opportunity to be here today to share Human
Rights First's findings and recommendations on this important
issue and to discuss how to further our common goal of
combating intolerance and advancing human rights. We are deeply
grateful to you, Mr. Chairman, for your leadership and to the
subcommittee for its important role in keeping human rights
front and center in the Congress.
Anti-Semitism is not a Jewish issue and it is not a
religious issue. It is a human rights issue and we all have to
confront it. The failure of governments to punish those who
commit violence targeting Jews and Jewish communities and to
condemn and counteract virulent anti-Semitic hate speech
creates an environment that endangers not only Jews, but the
rights and security of adherents of other religious faiths and
members of other minority groups. A healthy civil society
cannot flourish in the face of unchecked hatred. Indeed, we see
time and again that hate does not exist in neat compartments,
but it metastasizes, creating an enabling environment for
violence that affects immigrants, members of religious and
sexual minorities, Roma, and many, many others.
For more than a decade, Human Rights First has been working
to monitor and combat anti-Semitic violence and to press for
stronger government action. Although anti-Semitism is a global
problem, my testimony today will focus on anti-Semitic violence
in Europe and the former Soviet Union where the translation of
sentiment against Israel or the policy of its governments into
anti-Jewish antipathy has generated new and unique anti-Semitic
violence that has fluctuated in relation to events in the
Middle East. At the same time, age-old manifestations of anti-
Semitism persist and are often deeply intertwined with the
prejudices that fuel hatred against other minorities.
Anti-Semitism remains at the core of organized racial
supremacist groups in Western Europe and of broad nationalist
movements in Eastern and Central Europe that target immigrants,
Roma, LGBT persons, and religious minorities among others. It
is thus important that individuals and leaders from faith and
other communities come together to condemn anti-Semitism and
other forms of intolerance. And this hearing is an important
opportunity for us to reflect on the interrelationship of these
threats and the importance of solidarity in confronting them.
Anti-Semitic violence as well as other forms of hate crimes
should not be seen simply as the problems of individual victims
or their communities. They must be seen and responded to for
what they are, serious violations of human rights. These
threats of fundamental rights must be challenged not just by
the victims or communities of targeted individuals, but by all
those who seek to advance universal rights and freedoms.
I would like to make four key points today. First, anti-
Semitism is a unique and potent form of racism and religious
intolerance, and the extent of the violence motivated by anti-
Jewish animus throughout the OCSE region remains at
disturbingly high levels. Second, with few notable exceptions,
government responses to this rising tide of violence have been
wholly inadequate.
Third, the failure to confront anti-Semitic hatred corrodes
the rights and security of all people. Along with anti-Semitic
violence, the targeting of individuals because of their race,
religion, national origin, sexual orientation, or other factors
has been on the rise in recent years in many countries across
the globe. Strategies for combating anti-Semitic violence
through a human rights framework are effective and they are
necessary for stemming the tide of hate-fueled violence against
others as well. And finally, U.S. leadership is essential in
confronting anti-Semitism. My written testimony concluded with
recommendations for strengthening U.S. leadership in this area.
The level of anti-Semitic violence in Europe and North
America today is disturbingly high. Synagogues, Jewish homes
and Jewish-owned businesses have been targeted in arson attacks
and subjected to widespread vandalism, and students and
teachers in Jewish schools and ordinary people have been
harassed, beaten, stabbed, or shot simply because they were
Jewish. Anti-Semitism is devastating not only to individual
victims, but it terrorizes entire communities making
participation in public life fully and free from fear,
impossible.
In one of the most horrifying such incidents last March, a
23-year-old man of Algerian descent carried out a series of
terrorist attacks targeting Jewish civilians and French
soldiers. In total, seven people were killed including a rabbi
and his two young children. Violent crime is anti-Semitism's
sharp edge but it often occurs in the context of virulent hate
speech. In some countries, political and religious leaders are
the ones spewing this hate, attacking Jews through stereotypes
and scapegoating. In addition, Jews as people are often
vilified in the context of attacks on Israel. While criticism
of Israeli Government policies or the policies of any
government is legitimate discourse, it crosses the line when it
disparages or demonizes Jews as a people. When hate speech
involves direct and immediate threats of violence, governments
must hold perpetrators criminally accountable.
But it is important that we approach these challenges in a
thoughtful way. Confronting hate speech must not impinge on
free expression. There are ample cases as you know, Mr.
Chairman, particularly in countries like Russia where the rule
of law is weak, in which hate speech statutes are misused to
prosecute dissenting voices and civil society activists, even
those who are speaking out against hatred and working to
advance tolerance. Instead, hate speech must be countered by
clear public statements from a cross section of political and
civil society leaders to condemn prejudice and hatred and to
affirm the dignity and rights of all.
Consistent condemnation of hate speech is still sorely
lacking across Europe and in many other parts of the world. It
is vital that political leaders speak out promptly and
unequivocally to condemn hate speech. Similarly, it is crucial
that the voices condemning hate speech are raised not only from
those in targeted communities. Creating a multi-faceted chorus
of counter-speech is a key to marginalizing the voices of anti-
Semitism and diminishing the impact on the targeted community.
The United States has a long history of this approach in lieu
of hate speech laws to address hateful views and political
discourse. U.S. Embassy officials should speak more frequently
in this way and urge influential political leaders in the
countries in question to do the same. When political leaders
from across party lines condemn anti-Semitism and other forms
of intolerance it sends an important message to the victim
communities and to others who would speak so.
I want to summarize my recommendations quickly. The full
text of them are in my written testimony. First, in order to
strengthen U.S. leadership in this area, the U.S. should
elevate the importance of religious freedom in its U.S. foreign
policy by developing a national security strategy that promotes
international religious freedom, combats anti-Semitic and
related violence, and confronts hate speech while protecting
free expression. Second, the U.S. should establish an
interagency mechanism to deploy strategically the resources and
programs from across the U.S. Government to combat hate crime
globally.
Third, making combating anti-Semitism an important
component of bilateral engagement through an interagency
effort. That means not just the State Department, but every
agency of the U.S. Government needs to raise this in its
bilateral relations with other countries. Fourth, maintaining
the international leadership of the United States in
multilateral forums like the OSCE is critically important, and
thanks to your leadership, Mr. Chairman, we are doing just
that.
In conclusion, the failure to confront anti-Semitic hatred
corrodes the right and security of all people, and that is why
this hearing, framed as you have framed it, is so important.
Thank you again, Mr. Chairman, for your leadership and your
persistence in seeking to eradicate anti-Semitism.
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Mr. Smith. Thank you so much, Ms. Massimino.
Let me just begin the questioning and then yield to my
distinguished colleagues.
Dr. Jasser, you talked about this tendency to give Muslims
a pass. There are number of Muslim leaders, as you and I know
so well, Dr. Ceric, the former Grand Mufti of Bosnia who has
spoken out repeatedly as have others. But I find, and you may
find this as well, they get almost no traction in the popular
media and absolutely no coverage in the Middle East. You
pointed out the role that--how did you put it--anti-Semitism is
long a tool utilized by Islamists in order to invoke common
sympathy from secular nationalists who also developed a hatred
of Jews in order to avoid national introspection? To what
extent is that understood in the Muslim world? And if you could
speak to the role, and others might want to speak to it as
well, that hate TV plays.
We had Natan Sharansky testify at one of my hearings years
ago, and he brought a clip of a soap opera, so-called, that ran
throughout the Middle East that showed a blood libel, a little
boy, Christopher, having his throat slit, to be put into the
matzah, an absolute libel against Jews, and he said, people
believe this. And I am wondering, how can such a lie be
embraced by so many people? Where is the corresponding
pushback? But if you could speak to that.
Dr. Jasser. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman Smith. I can't
tell you how important all these questions are. I will start
with the last one which is hate TV and the media. It is no
mistake that these ideas are getting traction. It is because of
the billions of dollars put behind it. Al Jazeera has a huge
following. Egyptian TV, Iranian Press TV, all of these
propaganda arms are bolstered with billions of dollars and
simply spread a lot of these ideas. And eventually even though
the people may distrust and hate their governments and
dictatorships, it is going to gain traction in their mindset
because that was all they see. And that is why the Arab
Awakening has been a good thing in order to begin to have
diversity in the media and in the mindsets.
And the other thing is that we have been missing in action
as far as promoting ideas and engaging in their media. When we
put money into Iraq and the media there that we had, Hora TV,
it doesn't get any ratings. They are not going to watch
American TV. What we need to do is give platforms to Muslim
organizations, Muslim reformers as you mentioned from Bosnia,
and we have a coalition of reformers called the American
Islamic Leadership Coalition that includes Canadian and
American reformers that right now is almost 30 different
members of organizations that have been working to expose anti-
Semitism. It includes people like Tarek Fatah that has recently
written a book on Islamist anti-Semitism. So I think it is
important.
These platforms do not come easily. They have had a huge
head start because of the funding, and that funding has had a
core ideology. The secularists of these dictatorships have in
many ways co-opted this anti-Semitism as a bridge to build
these coalitions. The people really have been taken by it
because there is no infrastructure of education, economic well-
being, free markets, in order to counter this. And until the
secularists who are a majority, I believe, find some unifying
idea, they are going to continue to be fractionated, and the
Islamists who are only a plurality are going to continue to win
elections as they have in Egypt and Tunisia until the
secularists can come together in a unifying idea such as
liberty. In the meantime, they have only been unified by
generations of hate.
Mubarak, who was supposedly our ally, showed the protocols.
Assad, in Syria, and his father instilled hate. They instill
hate in their population even though they are secular against
faith communities because it works to monopolize the masses and
control their mindset via anti-Semitism as the tool to do that.
And I can't tell you enough how much it is important for us to
develop public-private partnerships of reform based
organizations, and I think anti-Semitism work against it will
be a tool to begin to get into taking sides within the house of
Islam. As long as we don't take sides the Islamists are going
to win because they are the strong horse.
Mr. Smith. Let me ask you, Dr. Lantos Swett, what you in
your testimony quoted Egyptian President Morsi as urging the
teaching of hatred of Jews to the country's children. Why is it
that so many governments, and that would include our own,
mistakingly look at the Muslim Brotherhood as somehow being
moderate when it has such a profoundly anti-Semitic foundation
to it?
Ms. Lantos Swett. Well, I think this relates to an ongoing
challenge that those of us who advocate passionately on behalf
of human rights face, and that is the ever-present spectre of
realpolitik. I think that we have historically viewed the
Muslim Brotherhood as a very dangerous organization with values
and principles and platforms utterly inimical to our American
values and democracy. But as my colleague Zuhdi Jasser just
said, because the Muslim Brotherhood specifically in Egypt was
the strong horse after the fall of Mubarak, we found ourselves
walking down that road of finding reasons to excuse and explain
away very, very disturbing elements of their platform.
And I think that is the situation that we find ourselves
in. I think it is also sadly a reality that Morsi is probably
now relatively speaking moderate as against some of the really
extreme Salafis who are part of his coalition and are playing a
very, very significant role in Egypt today. So I think we are
drawn down that road, and history shows again and again and
again that human rights, when they are marginalized, when they
are put in a neat, tidy, little box in the corner, is something
that we simply address rhetorically every now and then and then
conveniently kind of stash them in that diplomatic corner
labeled irrelevant and unimportant. It comes back to bite us in
a very hard way when it comes to the rubber meets the road
reality of American politics.
My colleague, Elisa Massimino, down at the end of the
table, spoke about the need for the United States to develop a
national security policy based around the priority and
importance of religious freedom. Anybody with eyes to see can
understand that many of the gravest threats facing our nation
today from a national security and a terrorism, anti-terrorism
perspective are coming from societies where religious freedom
is constrained, where you don't have robust protections that
lead to tolerance, democracy, pluralism, all the virtues that
we are here advancing. So it is a very dangerous and short-
sighted game to ignore the long term strength that comes to a
society when we base our policies on standing firmly and
strongly for our most profound values. Because those profound
values of pluralism, tolerance, democracy, equality, and
freedom have built the strong nation that we enjoy today. And
it is by pursuing and strengthening those policies abroad that
we can build strong allies and strong partners.
Mr. Smith. The chair's time is expired. Mr. Cicilline?
Mr. Cicilline. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to the
witnesses for a really compelling and powerful testimony. I am
certain that if everyone in the world had the opportunity to
just hear the testimony of these five witnesses it would mark
significant progress in our efforts to eradicate anti-Semitism.
So thank you. And particularly thank you because I think the
particular power of non-Jewish voices in this work is
significant, and you all represent very important organizations
and institutions and religious traditions that I think need to
play a very important leadership role in helping to eradicate
anti-Semitism all over the world.
And I am struggling to think of what we can do as a
Congress. It seems to me as President Garvey said, this seems
so obvious that it is difficult to imagine we need to have a
hearing on it. But I think it is really actually a very
valuable exercise and I thank the chairman for convening this,
because I think the more we raise attention to the reality of
anti-Semitism, sort of acknowledging that this is a worldwide
and serious problem, I think, is the first and most important
step. And then bringing attention to it and having universal
condemnation of it.
But I want to just focus for my few minutes on the
education component, because it seems to me the condemnation
and the continuing to be sure that people understand the
reality of anti-Semitism by collecting data and tracking it and
all that part is certainly something that everyone should
accept as important. But what I want to try to understand is
what we might be able to do to help deal with ways to educate
the next generation of people in our world about the dangers of
anti-Semitism and how it is not simply a Jewish problem but a
problem for humanity and a problem for human dignity and
religious freedom all over the world.
We have in my district something called the Holocaust
Education and Resource Center of Rhode Island whose mission it
is to reduce prejudice and the injustice of bigotry against all
minorities by teaching the current generation about the
Holocaust and using the Holocaust as a way to really teach
important values of human dignity and religious freedom. And I
just would like each of the witnesses to sort of comment on
what can we do as Members of Congress that will most
effectively respond to this very serious rise to anti-Semitism
all over the world?
I mean as Dr. Lantos Swett mentioned--and it is a great
honor to welcome you to the committee--as a new Member of
Congress, your father was a huge hero to me, and a great
inspiration to so many people--but as you mentioned in your
testimony, this effort to eradicate the Jews began 25 centuries
ago and unfortunately, of course, was evidenced by very
horrific actionable events throughout history that
operationalized that effort to eradicate Jews from the murder
of 6 million Jews to individual instances of anti-Semitism.
So I would just like to ask each of the witnesses to
suggest to us something we can do that will help in this really
important effort, and again, thank you for your testimonies.
Maybe start with Dr. Lantos Swett.
Ms. Lantos Swett. Well, it is a wonderful question and it
is one that I don't have a simple answer to. But I look with
some optimism at where we in this country and to some extent
globally have come as a society and as a world on many long and
persistent evils that beset us.
I went with my family this past weekend to Gettysburg. I
had never actually been there before and it was a really
profound experience. I recommend it to anybody who has not
gone. I could not help but be struck by the fact that less than
150 years after that terrible, terrible battle, which was sort
of the turning of a war to try and erase a terrible stain on
our nation's history and our character and our claim to be a
decent people, that we did as a society and as a country move
to the point where the first African American was elected
President of the United States. And it is no longer permissible
in polite society for that sort of racism to be expressed. I
encounter it very rarely. I know it is not eradicated, but it
has been to an overwhelming extent eliminated.
More recently I look back on my youth, let alone my
childhood, and certain just calm and easy expressions of
bigotry and really cruelty toward gay and lesbian members of
our society, it was just okay. It was just kind of considered
normative, if you will. I think we are moving to the point
where that also is being eliminated, and yet this strange,
toxic pathology of anti-Semitism persists and has a sort of a
pass. I see it and hear it on college campuses. I teach at
Tufts University. And I see and hear of it in a variety of
venues. And so I don't know why, as we see society generally
progressing, this one form of evil gets something of a pass.
I was incredibly moved by Mr. Metaxas' brilliant exposition
of how impermissible, insupportable this attitude is from the
Christian lens and perspective, but I don't think we have
cracked that nut. Certainly, Holocaust education is part of it,
but at some level this goes very deep. We have to confront the
evil within. What is it within societies that permit this to
somehow be given a pass where other prejudices and other forms
of racism and intolerance are not?
Mr. Smith. Mr. Marino?
Mr. Marino. Thank you, Chairman. This question, I think, I
am going to direct to Mr. Metaxas. Am I pronouncing your name
correctly?
Mr. Metaxas. No one knows the actual pronunciation so that
is just as good as any.
Mr. Marino. Okay, so how about if we go with Mr. M? Thank
you, sir. Thank you all for being here. A very specific
question. I would like you to elaborate on it if you could, and
if there is time, anyone else who wants to jump in, please do.
I had the opportunity to visit Israel last year, spent a
couple of sessions in a group meeting with Prime Minister
Netanyahu and other officials. But equally important, meeting
with the citizens of the people of the Israel and actually
being there when there were attacks coming from Palestine.
Hearing the explosions, hearing the sirens go off, and being
told that they teach their children that they have about 15
seconds once they hear that siren go off to get to some
location to try and get protection.
So how does one negotiate when Prime Minister Netanyahu has
said to the Palestinians, I will talk with you anytime,
anywhere, let us get started, but the so-called leaders of
Palestine stand in front of the cameras and make statements
such as, we may talk with you once we go back to what we want
which are pre-1967 borders, and at that time we may stop
attacking, we may sit down and negotiate? So what is the
alternative there when you have--I am using this word loosely--
leaders in Palestine with that kind of talk and that kind of
arrogant attitude?
Mr. Metaxas. Well, if you are asking me how to negotiate
with recalcitrant Palestinians, I don't know. I will tell you I
think really the issue here, because we talk about realpolitik,
we talk about what can we do. For me it is an issue, and I
touched on this in my remarks, of foundational principles. Can
we discuss, dare we any more in the climate in which we live,
which is so infected with the political correctness, dare we
assert the idea that some ideas are right and some ideas are
wrong, and on what basis do we do that?
In this country we have not historically been shy about
that. We have asserted ideas. The founding fathers bequeathed
to us this idea of ordered liberty, and I think we are at this
point in history as Americans largely ignorant of what that
even is, and we have enjoyed its blessings so much that we have
become complacent and don't appreciate the fragility of this
flower, of what the American experiment and ordered liberty is.
I bring this up because I think at the heart of that is
religious freedom and freedom of conscience. And if Americans
themselves don't understand what this is, what this
extraordinarily fragile and infinitely valuable gift is that we
have been given, if we cannot articulate what that is how do we
expect the rest of the world to do that? How do we expect the
rest of the world to articulate what religious liberty is, what
religious freedom is, why someone should be able to say
something even though I don't agree with it?
If we are not teaching that--and it gets back to
education--if we are not teaching that in our schools, and for
about 40 years in my memory we have not been teaching that
anymore, because I am not sure that we believe it or that the
cultural elites or the people who are in academia are
comfortable with it or themselves believe it, so we have
allowed ourselves to drift, to take this for granted and to
think somehow that things will be okay. This fragile flower of
religious liberty and the ordered freedoms bequeathed to us by
the founders requires tending. If it is not tended by Americans
it will die. And I don't see any other place on the surface of
the globe where these wonderful ideas are just going to bubble
up. Frankly, what bubbles up, traditionally, is tribalism,
violence, sectarian violence. This is normal for what happens
on the surface of the globe.
So if we in America aren't vigilant about explaining and
educating and ourselves understanding what it is that we have
if, in fact, it is worth having and worth fighting for--if we
don't understand it and require our children to understand it,
America will evaporate. We are a nation of ideas, and if we
don't have a citizenry that appreciates what it is that
requires us to respect those with whom we disagree and to fight
for those with whom we disagree, if we don't understand that
all is lost. And so I would say to you here, this is at the
heart of the problem, that we used to lead the world in this.
We used to understand this. We certainly had leaders who
understood this. We hardly do anymore, and it will lead to
grave problems. And it is now obviously leading to grave
problems.
Mr. Marino. Thank you. I yield back.
Mr. Smith. Thank you. Ranking Member Bass?
Ms. Bass. Let me take the opportunity to thank the
witnesses that are here today, and apologize to you to say that
one of the things that is so challenging about life here in the
Capitol is when you are supposed to be in three places at the
same time. And so unfortunately I am not able to stay, but I
definitely wanted to associate myself with the comments that
you were just making when you talk about how vigilant we need
to stay in our country, because in so many instances in history
we have moved forward only to go backward.
And we have certainly seen a rise of hate in this country
like we haven't seen in many years just in terms of the number
of hate groups that have sprung up, incidences that are
happening all over the country. So the topic today, I think, is
very appropriate and I appreciate you taking the time to come
out. The community I represent in Los Angeles has a large
Jewish community and, in fact, the Museum of Tolerance is in my
district and has definitely been a shining light for the City
of Los Angeles in terms of making sure that we always stay
vigilant on these issues.
I did want to ask a question about the newly created
Atrocities Prevention Board. And I wanted to know--as a matter
of fact I was there when the President announced that. I think
it was 1 year ago or maybe it was even 2. But I wanted to know
if you would comment on that, and this is directed to anybody
on the panel, and how you think that might be leveraged to
address anti-Semitism.
Ms. Massimino. Thank you so much, Congresswoman. Human
Rights First has worked extensively to help create the
Atrocities Prevention Board and we continue to work there to
press for a strategy that can address a broad range of tools
for atrocities prevention. And of course a number of us on this
panel have talked about the relationship between hate speech
and the enabling environment that that creates and the
perpetration of violence based on hate. We have seen that in
our own society and we certainly see it across the globe. The
Holocaust Museum had an excellent exhibit several years ago on
the relationship between anti-Semitic propaganda and the road
toward the Holocaust. And I think the United States can play
the most constructive role perhaps than any other country in
the world in navigating what to do about the relationship
between hate speech and violence, because we have a strong
commitment to free expression, but we also know that hate
speech has to be confronted by political leaders.
And I wanted to respond to this question of Mr. Cicilline
about what Congress can do. And on this issue in particular, I
think, through your relationships with your counterparts in
other countries particularly in the countries of the OSCE but
across the globe, I would urge all of you in your individual
capacities to call out the lack of counter-speech by political
leaders and in the face of anti-Semitism, and as well in the
context of the OSCE of which we are a member and Mr. Chairman
has played such a leadership role there.
Ignorance and hate are a very lethal combination and
education is hugely important. Education of youth, but also we
need to understand a problem before we can solve it and there
is a terrible data deficit about anti-Semitic hate violence.
There are 21 states now in the OSCE who have committed to
producing this data, collecting this data. Only five states are
reporting on it in all of the OSCE, and we need to be a leader
in changing that.
Also I think Congress can be asking Secretary Kerry and the
administration more broadly, what is the strategy for combating
anti-Semitism? We view this as a national security issue, we
think the administration should too. You all created the
position of the Special Envoy on anti-Semitism. You should
press to get an appointment there, somebody with the stature
and credibility for cross-community outreach who can really
help lead that strategy.
And also on education, I think it is not enough just to
look to the education of our own youth through the Museum of
Tolerance or the Holocaust Museum, but we also--and this is
something that Congress needs to take the lead on--need to look
at the role of the Saudis in propagating hate through
textbooks. These hearings are important, but it is a drop in
the bucket when you think about the young people who are being
educated using textbooks that demonize Jews. We are facing a
generational problem and Congress should be inquiring about
that.
And lastly, I hope you will use the appropriations
authority to support civil society groups who are working on
the front lines in all of these countries to try to combat
intolerance and anti-Semitism and hate crime. Thanks.
Ms. Bass. Thank you very much.
Mr. Smith. Thank you. Mr. Meadows?
Mr. Meadows. I thank each one of you for highlighting this
important and critical topic. As we look at it, who will be the
next Bonhoeffers? Who will be the next Wilberforces? And I am
looking at a panel that perhaps history will show that because
of your efforts we will see you in that light. I just want to
say thank you. I am jotting down a few notes as we have gone
forward in terms of action items and I think, Dr. Jasser, you
said name and shame to use your quoted words there as we look
at that. And Dr. Lantos Swett, yesterday I know you were
talking about the human rights violations that are not just
with this particular issue but against women and children with
Muslim Brotherhood as in your testimony yesterday.
So my question to each one of you, if you could give us two
action points of what we can do to highlight this and keep it
in the forefront of everybody's mind. Because what we do is we
create organizations. We create titles. We have international
organizations that are for human rights, and yet they are
hollow in terms of what they actually protect and stand up for.
And so identifying those that are real versus not real, I would
love two action points from each one of you in my time
remaining. Dr. Swett?
Ms. Lantos Swett. Well, something very specific and timely,
I know that President Obama is getting ready to take his first
trip to Israel since he became President, where the context,
the platform, the forum in which one speaks out against these
evils is often more important than the words that you say,
because we could fill up this room from floor to ceiling with
brilliant expositions on the evils of anti-Semitism but in a
relatively obscure setting.
I think it would be wonderful if all 435 members of the
United States Congress were to call the White House in the next
few days and say, we would like to have President Obama speak
out in the biggest platform that he is going to have on this
trip, which will get a lot of attention in Europe and the
Middle East, about this issue. Context, platform, how big is
that pulpit from which these critical things that as Dr. Garvey
said, we all know, it is self-evident, and yet it is not spoken
where it is heard. It has become sort of background and
wallpaper. So that is kind of a very specific, concrete thing
that in the runup to this very high profile visit which will be
under the spotlight, huge pressure on the President to call out
this sort of appalling, endemic saturation of anti-Semitism in
the Muslim world that Dr. Jasser spoke about so powerfully.
Mr. Meadows. In very clear terms, is what you say.
Ms. Lantos Swett. In clear terms, and no moral equivalence.
None of this on the one hand and on the other hand. Because the
minute we sort of take this evil and kind of put it again on
the wallpaper, well, we have got this unfortunate thing and we
have got that unfortunate thing, and don't let me forget to
mention this third unfortunate thing, you pretty much have
robbed it of all of its power and all of its impact. So I think
that would be one very concrete thing that I would suggest.
Mr. Meadows. Okay.
Ms. Lantos Swett. And I just want to say, because I know we
are getting not far adrift, but one of the things that is so
troubling is the resurgence of this evil in Europe.
Mr. Meadows. Right.
Ms. Lantos Swett. And I do hope we will have a chance to
address that because it is very frightening to see it coming
back there.
Mr. Meadows. And maybe some of the rest of you can address
that. Dr. Jasser, go ahead.
Dr. Jasser. Yes, the two things I would say is, actually
one main point is we need to create a national consensus. And I
would say as obvious as anti-Semitism is, don't abandon this
issue, because it is the issue that leads us to the conclusion
as a nation that Islamism is the problem, is the root cause.
That political Islam cannot be put in a wrap and made to look
nice. It is a theocratic, theopolitical movement that we need
to start looking upon the way we did communism.
When Mr. Marino was talking about Israel, Hamas is the
Muslim Brotherhood. It was an outshoot of it and that is what
you get when the Brotherhood comes to power is this----
Mr. Meadows. And is it true they don't even recognize the
existence or Israel's right to exist, is that correct?
Dr. Jasser. Exactly. And this is what happens when one
faith group based on a political movement gets into control,
other countries that have a secular basis that believe in
liberal democracy will be looked upon as evil and will not be
looked upon as their allies. So based on that national
consensus, two things I would ask you to do. Demand that our
Secretary of State, our White House, disengage from Islamist
movements in Europe and America and in the Middle East, and
then engage with Muslim movements that are proliberty, anti-
Islamist, and are looking to build platforms. Those two things.
Disengage Islamists like the Brotherhood, and engage with anti-
Islamists.
Ms. Lantos Swett. And I just want to jump in on one thing,
because I think it is a point that needs to be made that
pertains very much to what Zuhdi has talked about. And that is
that much of the resurgence in Europe is coming from the
radical elements of the Muslim community in Europe. So some of
the re-infection, if you will, of this hatred and targeting of
the Jews does trace its roots to precisely the movements that
Dr. Jasser is referring to. So there is a link there. It is not
just the Arab world.
Dr. Jasser. And European Muslims are watching Al Jazeera
and Middle Eastern media.
Mr. Meadows. I see my time is expired. Thank you, Mr.
Chairman.
Mr. Metaxas. I apologize for having to walk out, but just
to say that I do think it is a lack of will and resolve in the
West that exists today that did not exist let us say 30 years
ago, to call things what they are. That I would say is a
misunderstanding of what liberty is, a misunderstanding of what
freedom of expression is that would allow people to take
advantage, ultimately, of our openness. That is what is clearly
happening much more in Europe than it is is happening here.
We know that it is happening in Great Britain. You may be
familiar with the work of Baroness Caroline Cox over there.
People are loath to see this. Somehow they are looking away
from it. If we in America cannot reassert our foundational
principles about what is right and what is wrong and stand
against those who would bully us, who would take advantage of
our openness, which is precisely what is happening that is
allowing these things, then there is nothing to discuss. It
really is up to us and we must decide whether we are willing to
do that. Up until now, recently, we have absolutely not been
willing to do that.
Mr. Garvey. Can I just add one legal point to follow up on
what Mr. Metaxas was saying? The First Amendment, as you know,
provides more protection than we might wish for hateful speech,
and I want to say two things about that which we need to keep
in mind in these discussions. One is this: The fact that the
First Amendment protects speech does not mean that it is not
loathesome and shouldn't be condemned. Second, we have said
since the 1920s, since Justice Holmes and Justice Brandeis
first began speaking about this issue, that the remedy for
hateful speech is more speech. And that is the one thing that
all the members of the panel today and Mr. Meadows seem to have
agreed on as something the government should do. The culture
that we create by speaking out about anti-Semitism is, in some
ways, the most important step that we need to take.
Ms. Massimino. Can I add just one thing to that? You asked
for a couple of action items from each of us, and I would say
reiterating this point that something all of you can do. We
cannot let any instance of anti-Semitic hate speech go
unchallenged, and that is a big job, sadly. But we all have to
take that up. We have to create a climate of intolerance for
intolerance, and we need to call on members of civil society
who fall down on that front, political leaders who fall down on
that front. And then on the deterrent side we have to empower
law enforcement where there is hate violence. We do a good job
in this country, thanks to the Matthew Shepard Act and other,
to prosecute hate crime. Other countries are not as well
developed and we can help them through our law enforcement
training and funding.
Mr. Smith. Mr. Weber?
Mr. Weber. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A couple of questions.
First of all for, I guess, Dr. Lantos Swett. I didn't catch the
name of the gentleman, the high-ranking official that you had
that discussion with.
Ms. Lantos Swett. I can give it you. I don't have it off
the top of my head. He was a deputy minister. And if I could
finish that story briefly. After I confronted him, and of
course the answer was basically, attack Israel, attack Israel.
But I tried to pivot and I said, what if your President, Mr.
Morsi, tomorrow were to stand up in a major platform and say,
enough. This is a shame. This is a stain on our character. No
more. I will not do it and we will not tolerate it among
leadership in our Government and it needs to end. I said, well,
the next day he would be lauded from every capital for standing
up, courageously speaking out, trying to change in a high-
profile way this infection within the body politic of the
Muslim world and that this would be a very positive thing. In
sharing that conversation the following day with a group of
reformers in Egypt, they gave a very, very disheartening and
disturbing response. They said yes, but the day after the day
after he said that he would be assassinated by his own people,
which was sobering to say the least.
Mr. Weber. Okay. My colleague here, Mr. Meadows, was asking
for action items and I think--is it Massimino? Is that how we
are saying that?
Ms. Massimino. Yes.
Mr. Weber. I think you made the comment that the Saudis
have been basically promulgating anti-Semitism through their
education literature. Do I remember that right?
Ms. Massimino. That is right.
Mr. Weber. So are you actively engaged in getting NGOs to
go into countries and to combat this at the very lowest levels
including preschool care, kindergarten, if you will, and up?
Are you actively engaged in trying to employ the help of those
people, the churches? I don't know what all kinds of
organizations would be in those countries. You are coming to us
and you are saying you need our help, and rightfully so. And I
want to be, count me as being part of that help. But are you
doing more than that? Are you going into the countries? Are you
talking to people, to NGOs, to churches, to synagogues?
Part of American's history was that when King George was
really doing a number on us back in Colonial days, the
preachers and the churches stood up and spoke out. And, I think
we need that kind of ground swell and that kind of support from
ordinary citizens. Are you going after that kind of support?
Ms. Massimino. Well, it is a very good point. I think that
behind it, I think, is this idea that change has to come from
within these societies and at the ground level. And, in fact,
we have talked to a lot of people in countries where this kind
of education has taken hold. And there are many, many who are
dissatisfied with that but have few alternatives. It is a
massive societal problem and one that I think the U.S.
Government could do a lot to address with funding of the local
groups who want to make a difference.
There is a limit, I think, to what organizations like mine
that sit in New York and Washington can do on the ground there,
but I can tell you that there are a number of people--this is
not something that needs to be imposed from outside. There are
plenty of people on the ground in these countries, they are
fearful but they need support. They are not getting support in
their own countries. And many of the countries, this is a
circle of repression that you, Mr. Chairman, know so well with
governments who try to cut off funding for those progressive
groups who are trying to make a difference and they need to
seek funding from outside. So that is something that the United
States can be doing, is supporting the various civil society
groups, religious groups, education groups and others who are
trying to promote a more objective and invest in the long term
education of their children.
Mr. Weber. Okay, let me put you all on the spot. If the
Saudis are indeed engaged in that practice, and I have no need
to doubt that you are correct, would you all--I am going to put
on my energy hat for a minute. I think that if America becomes
energy independent and we don't export dollars to the Saudis in
exchange for energy, then it actually helps us on two fronts,
would you agree? And would you help spread the word that
America needs to be energy independent? I am going to
proselytize you all from that end. Can I get an amen?
All right. I see that my time is expired, Mr. Chairman,
thank you very much.
Mr. Smith. Mr. Weber, thank you very much.
I want to thank our very distinguished panel. You have
provided incredible insights and suggestions and I hope that
many members read this record. It will be widely disseminated.
And thank you so very, very much for your testimonies.
I would like to now welcome our second panel to the witness
table beginning with Dr. Tamas Fellegi who began his career
teaching law and government in Hungary. He went on to become a
research fellow at Harvard and earned a Ph.D in the United
States. After teaching, he worked in the private sector before
joining the Hungarian Government to serve as Minister of
National Development, and then to lead Hungary's financial
negotiations with the International Monetary Fund and European
Commission.
We will then hear from Mr. Willy Silberstein who has served
as the chairman of the Swedish Committee Against anti-Semitism
since 2009 where he works to counter anti-Semitism through
education. He has also worked as a journalist, editor, and
commentator for newspapers, magazines, and television channels
in Sweden, and as a foreign correspondent in Belgium. He now
runs his own company that focuses on the media.
We will then hear from Rabbi Andrew Baker who is the
director of International Jewish Affairs for the American
Jewish Committee, and the personal representative of the
Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe Chair-in-
Office on Combating anti-Semitism, and has been reappointed in
each year since 2009 to that extremely strategic and important
position. Rabbi Baker has served as president of the Washington
Board of Rabbis, president of the Interfaith Conference of
Washington, and I know I have worked very closely with him over
these many years in combating anti-Semitism, and thank him
again publicly for his extraordinary work.
We will then hear from Rabbi David Meyer who is a rabbi
based in Brussels, Belgium, and professor of Rabbinic
Literature and Contemporary Jewish Thought at the Gregorian
Pontifical University in Rome as well as the University of
Leuven. He is also a regular visiting professor in universities
in Peru and in China teaching Judaism. He is also involved with
projects in Rwanda working with Tutsi survivors of the genocide
of 1994. Rabbi Meyer has now published six books on theological
and rabbinic issues.
We will then hear from Rabbi Yaakov Bleich who is
originally from Brooklyn, New York, but who moved to Kiev,
Ukraine in 1989, where he was named Chief Rabbi of Kiev in
Ukraine shortly thereafter and served in that post ever since.
He has been instrumental in founding many organizations in the
Jewish community in Ukraine. Rabbi Bleich has worked to advance
interreligious and interethnic relations in Ukraine and around
the world.
And finally we will hear from Mr. Andrew Surlevitch who is
the anti-Defamation League's Director of European Affairs. He
engages with European Jewish communities to monitor, react to
anti-Semitism, and analyzes European governments' relations
with Israel and policies on the Middle East peace process. He
previously worked at the Conference of Presidents of Major
American Jewish Organizations, and served as executive director
of UN Watch in Switzerland. I thank you for being here and for
your testimony.
Dr. Fellegi?
STATEMENT OF TAMAS FELLEGI, PH.D., MANAGING PARTNER,
EUROATLANTIC SOLUTIONS (FORMER MINISTER OF NATIONAL
DEVELOPMENT, GOVERNMENT OF HUNGARY)
Mr. Fellegi. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. It is an
honor for me to testify for and about Hungary. It is the
country where I was born, and where as a Jew and as a
descendant of Holocaust survivors I feel at home. Preparing for
this public hearing I spoke to executives of Jewish
organizations, religious leaders, university professors,
government people, and opposition figures. However, what
follows here represents my ideas and my evaluation of the
current situation. Mr. Chairman, I have submitted a written
testimony, and I would like that to be included in the record
of the hearings.
I would like to anchor my brief opening statements on three
main tenets. First, the rise of anti-Semitism has complex
reasons, but at its core the current phenomenon is an
expression of frustration with Hungary's imperfect democratic
transition. Second, only Jobbik, a party with a 10-percent base
among the national population is an openly anti-Semitic party.
There is a clear line of demarcation between Jobbik and the
center-right government and all other mainstream political
parties in Hungary. Third, despite the presence of Jobbik and
anti-Semitic rhetoric, Jewish life including religious life has
been witnessing a renaissance in Hungary that is welcomed by
all mainstream parties.
Let me put all this into historic perspective. Prejudice
against Jews both open and latent has always been present in
Europe. But it is important to distinguish between deep-seated
prejudice against Jews and the use of anti-Semitism for
political manipulation. Following the era of Admiral Horthy,
which was marked by a Nazi-style, anti-Jewish legislation and
ultimately by the Hungarian Holocaust, the issue of anti-
Semitism was swept under the rug during the almost 45 years of
Communist rule. The democratic changes of 1989-1990, including
freedom of speech and of the press allowed for suppressed
frustrations and debates about our troubled past to come to the
surface. They also enabled ever-present latent anti-Semitism to
become manifest. Several openly anti-Semitic political and
civic organizations were formed, but they never--let me
emphasize this point--never ended up in government.
The most recent example is the xenophobic party, Jobbik,
which started out as a radical anti-establishment movement. In
2010, after 8 years of socialist-liberal government which
brought Hungary to the brink of economic collapse, Jobbik
managed to get around 15 percent of the popular vote to become
the third largest party in the Hungarian Parliament. It also
cultivated an agressive paramilitary arm which was banned by
the present government but keeps reinventing itself. It has
become a fact of life that Jobbik politicians taking advantage
of freedom of speech have the openly racist views on Web sites
and in print magazines and even in the Hungarian Parliament.
A negative consequence of this has been the decline of
public sensitivity toward racism. What is also there, however,
is that Jewish life in Hungary started to blossom from day one
of the advent of democracy. Hungary has one of the largest
Jewish populations in Europe, with some estimates going as high
as 120,000. It supports extremely popular summer camps,
schools, synagogues, and the Summer Festival that attracts Jews
from all over Europe. There are courses in Hebrew offered by
language schools and there are a number of new Jewish weeklies
and periodicals. All historic Jewish groups are acknowledged
and registered as established religions. Along with growing
anti-Semitism these facts should not be ignored.
Let me briefly list the milestones that democratic Hungary
has carried out since the collapse of communism in an effort to
reconcile with the Jewish community. The establishment of the
Hungarian Jewish Heritage Fund. The Kaddish was recited in
Parliament in a memorial for victims of the Shoah. A national
Holocaust Memorial Day is compulsory in all public schools on
April 16th, commemorating the anniversary of the start of
deportations in 1944. Teaching Holocaust history was made
mandatory in schools from fifth to twelfth graders. The
Holocaust Memorial and Documentation Center and the House of
Terror Memorial Museum were established.
Holocaust survivors restitution claims have been settled.
Pension payments to Holocaust survivors were doubled. 2012 was
designated Raoul Wallenberg Memorial Year. A Holocaust Memorial
Committee chaired by the head of the Prime Minister's office
has been set up to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the
Hungarian Holocaust next year. Hungary repeatedly requested the
U.S. authorities to shut down the openly anti-Semitic, Nazi-
style Hungarian language Web site called kuruc.info which
operates in the United States. Paramilitary groups inciting
hatred were banned and the criminal code was tightened
regarding uniformed crime. Parliamentary House Rules were
amended to allow the Speaker of the House to fine or expel MPs
if they use hateful language. Finally, the first court verdict
that convicted a Holocaust denier was handed down. The court
sent the offender to visit either the Holocaust Museum, Yad
Vashem or Auswitz, and write a report about the trip.
I earlier referred to the fact that anti-Semitism and
racism in general have been on the rise, which tells us that
Hungary must do much more in this field. Having said this, let
me conclude by a probably surprising closing statement. In
terms of government actions to foster Jewish life and combat
anti-Semitism in Hungary, all of the milestones I listed a
minute ago, with the exception of the Jewish Heritage Fund, put
in place during the first and second administrations of Prime
Minister Viktor Orban.
Thank you very much for your attention. I am ready for your
comments and questions.
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Mr. Smith. Mr. Fellegi, thank you very much for your
testimony.
I would now like to ask Mr. Silberstein, if you could
proceed.
STATEMENT OF MR. WILLY SILBERSTEIN, CHAIRMAN, SWEDISH COMMITTEE
AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM
Mr. Silberstein. Let me start by telling you about Shneer
Kesselman. Shneer Kesselman is a rabbi in the Swedish city of
Malmo, a city which I am sorry to say is infamous for its anti-
Semitism. When Shneer Kesselman, sometimes when he goes out
with his children he is being threatened. People throw cans
after him. They curse him and say things I do not wish to
repeat here. And what differs Shneer Kesselman from other
Swedish citizens who are Jewish in Malmo is that people can see
that he is Jewish because he wears orthodox clothes. And this
means that had it been possible to identify other people in my
Malmo or elsewhere as Jews, they would have had the same
problems.
We have seen that a number of Jewish families in Malmo have
left the city. They moved to Stockholm, the capital of Sweden,
some of have also moved to Israel. Who would have thought some
decades ago that Jewish families in Sweden would feel ashamed
to live in a city with so much anti-Semitism, and move? I don't
think anyone would have guessed that. So who is behind this
anti-Semitism mainly in Malmo? Of course there are several
groups. We have extremists to the left, we have extremists on
the right side, and we have also people who are not really that
much into politics but who do have prejudice against the Jews.
And then we must also admit that there are people who have
moved to Sweden from the Middle East, Muslims who take with
them the conflict from the Middle East to Sweden, and they make
Swedish citizens who are Jewish responsible for what another
country, Israel, does. Needless to say, that is totally
unacceptable. And let me at the same time be clear, I believe a
large portion of the Muslims in Malmo and elsewhere in Sweden
are not anti-Semitic, but still there are too many who are.
At the same time we have seen positive counter-reactions.
An organization called Young Muslims Against anti-Semitism has
been formed and is active. In Malmo, you may have heard about
that, we had so-called kipa-marches. People have gone out to
the streets, some of us with a kipa on our head, and we have
protested against anti-Semitism in Malmo. And to my great
pride, I would like to add that many of those who march with us
were non-Jews.
We know more or less for a fact that anti-Semitism is on
the rise in Sweden. Polls have been made that confirm that. We
get more people who, for instance, agree with statements like,
the Jews are too influential in the world. One out of three say
there is too much talk of the Holocaust in the world, and one
out six say Jews are greedy. That happens among high school
students in Sweden today. And as been said here before, I would
like to say the same thing. Fighting anti-Semitism in the long
run is also working against racism that can hit anywhere. A
society that accepts hatred against Jews will surely pick other
groups be it Muslims, Christians, homosexuals, and other
groups. It may start with the Jews. It will surely not end with
the Jews.
And let me end on a personal note. My mother was liberated
by American soldiers in a concentration camp in 1945. She would
have been impressed if she could have seen this which is going
on in this room right now. She would have been proud, but she
would not have been surprised. So therefore, thank you so much
for bringing your spotlight to a rise in anti-Semitism in a
continent that has endured so much hatred already. And I would
like to see a manifestation like this on high political level
with European politicians. We must show that we have learned
our lesson. Silence is never again an option. Thank you very
much.
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Mr. Smith. Thank you so much, Mr. Silberstein, and thank
you for traveling here, coming such a long way.
Rabbi Baker, welcome.
STATEMENT OF RABBI ANDREW BAKER, PERSONAL REPRESENTATIVE ON
COMBATING ANTI-SEMITISM, OFFICE OF THE CHAIRPERSON-IN-OFFICE,
ORGANIZATION FOR SECURITY AND CO-OPERATION IN EUROPE
Rabbi Baker. Mr. Chairman, thank you, and of course thank
you for everything you have done in this critical area. I would
like to lay out what I think are really the major themes
suggesting the problems that are faced, that are being
addressed here in this hearing today. The first goes to the
basic issue of community security. Only a week ago, the
security service of the Jewish community in France issued its
annual report and it described 2012 as a year of unprecedented
violence against Jews. Physical attacks nearly doubled over the
previous year, and that increase was more than eight times
higher than all other racist and xenophobic acts in the same
period. You will recall that those acts included the murder of
four at a Jewish school in Toulouse, an event that drew
international attention.
But that report reveals that following this attack there
was, in fact, a spike in incidents. Rather than generating
awareness and sympathy, there were instead support and
identification with that anti-semitic murderer. Now France may
stand out with the number of attacks. With the largest Jewish
community in Europe it surely offers the largest number of
potential targets. But that community is not alone in the need
to address an increasing security threat. Other western
European Jewish communities face similar challenges.
Physical attacks directed toward persons and property are a
part of daily life, so the need to protect synagogues and
community centers with secure entryways. Experts indicate now
they need to be prepared as well for the possibility of
international terror attacks. It is a formidable challenge,
especially for small communities with limited budgets. It spans
the continents as, in fact, I witnessed during my OSCE travels.
The 1,000 Jews of Olso, Norway, and the 1,000 Jews who live in
Melilla, a Spanish enclave in North Africa, may appear to have
very little in common. But both communities are spending an
inordinate share of their budget simply to keep their members
safe.
Governments have a basic obligation to provide for the
security of their citizens and they also affirm a bedrock
commitment to the free exercise of religion. And yet these
security needs and the financial burdens that many communities
now face seriously call these principles into question. So it
is that these quite elemental challenges of a decidedly
practical nature ultimately pose an existential threat to the
future of Jewish life in Europe. The sources of these attacks
are generally well known. Right wing, neo-Nazi groups have long
been a focus of concern, and we need to remain vigilant about
that. But the recent increases that are documented in France
and elsewhere in Western Europe largely come from parts of the
Arab and Muslim communities.
Knowing the source of these attacks is necessary in order
to devise ways to prevent them, through law enforcement in the
short term and through education in the longer term. Yet some
governments willfully do not want to know and they have limited
their monitoring tools so that they will not be confronted with
these facts. That may be a reflection of political correctness
or a fear that such data are likely to increase anti-Muslim
sentiments, but either way they contribute to the problem.
Anti-Semitism in public discourse is something you know
well, Mr. Chairman. You participated in 2011 in the OSCE
conference in Prague that addressed this issue. The fact is
that popular attitudes about Jews may not derive from firsthand
knowledge. Jewish populations are often quite small in these
countries. So they more frequently come from inherited
prejudices or what people see and hear in the media. That media
coverage often features highly critical descriptions of the
State of Israel, and at times as some have already indicated,
that criticism crosses over into anti-Semitism. When Israel is
demonized, when its legitimacy as a Jewish state is questioned,
when its actions are compared to the deeds of the Nazis, this
is not mere criticism.
Aspects of this problem were referenced in that seminal
OSCE Berlin Declaration adopted in 2004. It was described in
more detail a year later in the working definition of anti-
Semitism promulgated by the EUMC, now the EU Fundamental Rights
Agency. That working definition also warns against holding
local Jewish communities responsible for the actions of the
State of Israel. But that regularly happens. Jews and Israel
are conflated, and the incidents in the Middle East and the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict trigger attacks on Jewish targets
in Europe. European Jews have their own views about Israel, and
they may vary widely. But only they are being told that they
must publicly condemn the Jewish State as the price for support
or for civic inclusiveness.
Last year a government funded Norwegian study found that 38
percent of the population agreed that Israel's treatment of the
Palestinians was akin to the policies of the Nazis. It was a
sobering statistic even for political leaders who are openly
pro-Palestinian in their views.
Extremist political parties. The growth of right wing,
populist parties in some European countries is a new cause for
alarm. The severe economic problems and the inability of
mainstream political parties to cope have opened a door to
extremist views. Parties such as Jobbik in Hungary, Svoboda in
Ukraine, Golden Dawn in Greece have found success following a
path already trod by established movements such as the National
Front in France, the Freedom Party in Austria. Xenophobic
appeals vie for primacy with equally hateful anti-Semitic
messages. And as a result of election successes these words are
no longer confined to street corner rallies. They now echo in
the halls of Parliaments.
Jobbik leaders demand a listing of Hungarian Jews. Golden
Dawn party attacks the very idea of Holocaust education. The
Svoboda Party features anti-Jewish rhetoric in the halls of
Parliament defending the use of the word ``kike.'' The danger
may not be in the support that these parties have. They are
relatively confined to 10-15 percent of the population. But
they already exert a gravitational pull from even mainstream
parties. They are nervous about those potential voters or they
are seeking those votes themselves.
Finally, a fourth area to be identified has been the limits
being placed on basic Jewish ritual practice. We have witnessed
the efforts in various European countries to restrict or to ban
the practice of ritual circumcision and kosher slaughter.
Proponents of these efforts may not necessarily be anti-
Semitic, they may be self-described animal rights advocates or
protectors of children. Political support, in fact, is broader.
It may draw particularly on anti-Muslim sentiments, since a ban
on these practices affects Muslim communities as well. But the
reality is that legislation came close to being passed in the
Netherlands. A regional court in Germany issued a ruling
prohibiting circumcision causing the government to come forward
with new legislation.
The fact is that some countries have maintained bans on
ritual slaughter that pre-date any animal rights activism. They
were intended to be anti-Semitic in nature, to keep Jews out.
Country by country Jewish communities in postwar Europe worked
out their own understanding of what was needed. They quietly
negotiated with their respective governments. In some cases
exceptions were granted or conditions were voluntarily
accepted. Rarely did these issues rise as topics of public
debate. But that has now changed for several reasons. Western
European societies have become increasingly secular, and as a
result there is less respect for religious practice generally.
It is particularly evident when addressing these practices that
are considered archaic or even barbaric, such as shechita and
brit milah. A large and growing Muslim population in Europe
means that they are more prevalent and thus more likely to
require a legal framework, an official regulation in which to
operate. As a result, the ad hoc approach that served the needs
of mostly small Jewish communities is now beginning to unravel,
and public discussions and blog postings easily turn to anti-
Semitic expressions.
With all of the difficulties that have been enumerated
above, we should not lose sight of the fact that if there is a
ban on these age old precepts of Judaism, it would also
threaten the very future of Jewish life. Let me conclude here,
and I have appended to my written testimony a number of my OSCE
reports. And thank you again, Mr. Chairman.
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Mr. Smith. Thank you very much, Rabbi Baker. Without
objection, your reports and your entire testimony and that of
all of our distinguished witnesses will be made a part of the
record. And thank you for that very fine testimony.
I would like to recognize Rabbi Meyer, if you would
proceed.
STATEMENT OF RABBI DAVID MEYER, PROFESSOR OF RABBINIC
LITERATURE AND CONTEMPORARY JEWISH THOUGHT, PONTIFICAL
GREGORIAN UNIVERSITY
Rabbi Meyer. I would like, first of all, to thank you for
asking me to testify in front of this committee and to offer me
the opportunity to share my experience of anti-Semitism in
Europe, but as well my understanding of the nature of what I
perceive as a renewed threat of European anti-Semitism. Now as
a rabbi based in Brussels, at the heart of Europe, and carrying
both a French and an Israeli citizenship, I have witnessed and
experienced in my life the reality of what it means to be a Jew
at least in Western Europe.
I was born and raised in Paris. I have lived in France for
many years. I have served as a rabbi in the United Kingdom and
as well as in Brussels. I am working in universities in Rome as
you have mentioned. But let me add that my personal life has
taught me some difficult experience of anti-Semitism. First of
all, of course, because of the memory of my own family which is
the memory of the Shoah, but also because as a young boy at the
age of 13 I was the victim of the first terrorist attack
against my synagogue in 1980. But also some more subtle forms
of anti-Semitism that I have experienced later on in my life in
the political French or British arena. So now between my work
in Rome and France and Belgium and England, I think I have
maybe some sort of perspective at least on the current state of
anti-Semitism in Europe.
Now I believe that two powerful trends of anti-Semitism are
currently at work in most European countries, and permit me to
illustrate this with just two recent concrete examples which
have already been mentioned before in the panel. The first
example just literally over a year ago in the small Jewish
school of Toulouse in March of last year. And we know that
there, a radical young French Muslim man killed, literally, in
cold blood three Jewish children, age three, six and eight, as
well as the rabbi who was also a teacher in the school and who
was the father of some of the victims. And the killer not only
did the killing but also filmed his action with a certain
pride, certainly, and intended to post it on the Internet. And
we all know and heard about that atrocity.
The second example I want to mention relates to a trend
that many have observed in Europe during the last decade. And
that trend has taken the form of this proposed legislation that
we have already mentioned a few times this morning that tend to
outlaw some Jewish practices and some Jewish rituals. At first
it started many years ago with questions about Jewish kosher
ritual slaughtering, but more recently as we know, it moved
against circumcision. And only last year the German courts
attempted to ban circumcision, defining it really as a barbaric
practice that was totally contrary to the understanding of
European human rights, and insinuating that such a Jewish
practice was not equal or proper European custom.
Now the idea spread within weeks to its neighboring
countries, notably to Switzerland, to Austria, but to others as
well, and what is worrying is that many in the intellectual and
in the university circles have been very receptive and very
sympathetic to that kind of arguments. Now of course today the
German ruling have been quashed, but there is very little
question in my mind that the problem will come back and
eventually we will have to face such a difficult situation. So
from these two very different examples of attacks against Jews
and Judaism, I think some understanding of what is at stake in
Europe can be gained.
First, there is no doubt that many of the violent acts of
anti-Semitism in recent years have been at the hands of
radicalized youth, often from Muslim backgrounds, very often
marginalized by society and influenced by their religious
preachers and leaders. Often the acts of violence are linked as
we know to the conflict of the Middle East, and what is a
racist violence against Jews is often masked as a frustration
and a real hate against the State of Israel. We are all aware
that in that respect and for those people, the use of the term
anti-Zionism is simply a code word and it really stands for
anti-Semitism. Now it is of course totally impossible for any
of us to understand what went through the mind of the killer in
Toulouse as he shot the Jewish children, but I think it is not
a stretch to say that the Israeli conflict was probably not,
really not what made him put a bullet through the brains of
these children and the rabbi.
Now at this first level many in the Jewish community
believe, and I think they are right, that as long as this link
to the conflict in the Middle East is tolerated, as long as
this radical form of violent Islam is tolerated, and as long as
virulent calls to delegitimize the very existence of Israel is
tolerated, then anti-Semitism will also of course be tolerated
because as Jews, whether or not we carry a dual citizenship as
I do, our link with Israel is deep, it is real and it is
enduring, and as such we will continue to be seen as related to
Israel.
Now second, and developing in the shadow of these very
violent and visible attacks against Jews, is the very concept
of Judaism, I think, as a religion that is now somehow
questioned by many in Europe as being simply not compatible
with European ethics, human rights, charters, and
sensitivities. As a European Jew, I can say that what hurts the
most today is the knowledge that behind these various attempts
at undermining the legality of Jewish practices lies the widely
held view that even after 2,000 years of attested Jewish life
in Europe we are still perceived as a foreign tribe who has
recently landed on the continent, and that when all is said and
done we are still often perceived as a tolerated minority whose
religious practices are well below the standards of the image
Europe likes to project about itself.
Now antagonizing through the coverup of legal proceeding
with a moralistic undertone, the ethics and practice of Judaism
on one hand versus the European understanding of its own
charter of human rights on the other hand runs the risk of
putting for the long term Judaism in Europe on a colliding path
that is most worrisome and potentially very dangerous. In
addition I feel it is important to add that the legal nature of
this new anti-Semitism is particularly troubling. As worrisome
as the street noises, it is through legislation that some in
Europe are attempting to give a cloak of respectability to
anti-Semitism, and the memory of the past century should make
it crystal clear that legal proceeding against Judaism and its
practice never stop with a attacks on religious practices
alone. It inevitably ends with attacks against Jews which are
eventually also done under the cover of legality. Now it is my
view to conclude that what Europe needs to do maybe, in order
to truly fight anti-Semitism, is to really accept, really to
accept and not just to tolerate its own Jewish population. To
value Judaism and to value Jewish community in Europe cannot be
limited to simple words of comfort when tragedy strikes. We
appreciate the words of comfort but that is not really what we
need. It requires more than that. It needs a leader to show a
real interest in Judaism and to do so publicly. An interest
that would not simply be the expression of a devotion to the
mythical image of the Jews that would be just a remnant from
the past that once contributed to the makeup of Europe and its
culture and later almost exterminated from Europe, but rather a
genuine interest. Because as a minority even if very small in
number, very small and declining, we are still contributing to
make Europe what it is today, bringing a certain diversity of
values and knowledge. Tolerating any level of anti-Semitic acts
against Jews, either under the cover of anti-Zionism or less
subtly for just being Jewish, is a sign of a wider feeling of
intolerance and hate within our society and not just against
Judaism but against all citizen of all faith and threatens a
return to the darkest years in Europe when those who were
different were selected for a fate that we all remember.
So thank you so much for taking the time to listen to this
brief testimony and contribution to your discussion.
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Mr. Smith. Rabbi Meyer, thank you very much for your
excellent testimony, and I would like to now ask Rabbi Bleich
if he would proceed.
STATEMENT OF RABBI YAAKOV BLEICH, CHIEF RABBI OF KIEV AND
UKRAINE
Rabbi Bleich. Thank you very much. First and foremost, I
would like to say how proud I am to be here today. I am proud
not only as the Chief Rabbi of Ukraine who has been living in
Ukraine for 23 years through Soviet rule, downfall, and the
birth of an independent Ukraine, but I am proud as an American
citizen that my country recognizes that opportunities cause
obligations. The opportunity for these distinguished members of
the House to positively affect the lives of Jews and other
minorities living in Europe has caused them to act and have
this hearing today.
On the one hand, I think that many in Ukraine would be
quite happy about today's hearing. We finally made it. We are
part of Europe. Something that we have been pushing and
bargaining for, for many years. However, it is quite
unfortunate circumstance that brings us here today, the
question of anti-Semitism in Ukraine. Being that the situation
with anti-Semitism in Ukraine is very different from Western
Europe, I would like to explain a few things about the history
of anti-Semitism in Ukraine.
There were historically two camps in Ukraine that were
competing with each other. There was the extremist negative
nationalist animosity toward Jews, which is probably best
portrayed in Sholom Aleichem's writings such as ``The Fiddler
on the Roof.'' But moreso was the government sponsored anti-
Semitism begun by the czars as official edicts and decrees
against the Jews. It was perfected to a science by the Soviets.
I won't even mention or get into when the government provoked
the local pogroms and used the locals. During Soviet times Jews
were systematically discriminated against in every single
sphere of society and social life. As of 1992 and Ukraine's
independence, government anti-Semitism has--thank God--all but
disappeared. There are instances of anti-Semitic acts carried
out in Ukraine, but I would like to now speak about the form
and substance of anti-Semitism problems in Ukraine, home to one
of the largest Jewish communities in Europe.
Besides being a society that has not yet perfected to put
it mildly, the rule of law, Ukrainian Jews live in a double
shadow of the Holocaust and Soviet rule. The first and foremost
form, of course, is acts of violence and vandalism. When people
and property are attacked because they are Jews, which we have
been hearing about this morning, that is an expression and most
painful form of anti-Semitism, and thank God that is the least
prevalent in Ukraine. Although we have had instances of
attacks, thank God they have been few.
The second form of anti-Semitism is publication of
literature, speeches, political platforms which incite or may
incite against Jews as individuals or as a group. This is more
prevalent although not at epidemic proportions at all. I think
it is important to point out that there was a time not too long
ago when this was a very serious problem in Ukraine. There was
a so-called university in Ukraine which was printing and
distributing tremendous amounts of anti-Semitic literature with
total impunity in Ukraine. This was stopped when the ones who
were sponsoring this anti-Semitism withdrew their financial
support. By the way, the sponsors were not Ukrainians and not
even people or groups living or based in Ukraine.
The third form of anti-Semitism, which I think is unique to
that part of let us say Eastern Europe and Soviet Union, is
what I call psychological anti-Semitism. It may be unique to
countries that have suffered from the Holocaust and from
government anti-Semitism. People who have suffered from a
feeling of being unprotected by law enforcement will react and
be frightened when seemingly harmless things happen such as a
street being named in honor of Stepan Bandera. Most Jews and
many others consider Bandera and his group of Ukrainian
nationalists in Western Ukraine responsible for dozens of
pogroms during World War II and the time before and after. It
may or may not be true, but to someone who believes it, it will
be frightening. When former President Yushchenko who was widely
regarded as pro-Western and prodemocratic was President of
Ukraine, when he decided to honor Bandera and Shukhevich with
the highest civilian honor as Heroes of Ukraine, it brought out
a terrible reaction by the Jewish community. Nobody was hurt.
No one was attacked. Nobody was cited or spoken against. But
for the psyche of a Ukrainian Jew that was anti-Semitic. And
that brings me to the subject at hand.
I believe that 7 percent of the parliamentary seats in
Ukraine occupied by members of the Svoboda party is definitely
something that should concern us all. It should not be
downplayed or ignored. Just as we all agree that understanding
the true threat is very, very important, understating it is
wrong, so too overstating it and blowing it out of proportion
is damaging. I am not an apologist for Ukraine nor for its
government or its people. However, I think it is important that
we study the source of the votes, evaluate that true power of
the party, its members, and know where it is heading.
The Jews of Ukraine, a historically vulnerable community,
does not feel very vulnerable. This may be naivete or it may be
the fact that Svoboda has never put up a serious platform. The
majority of their voters were protest voters voting for the
most outspoken opposition party. The Svoboda party has not been
able to achieve anything in the local councils that they
control, and in the opinion of some analysts, Svoboda is just a
populist party whose members are not united by any ideology
whatsoever other than a seat in Parliament and the power that
comes with it. Indeed, Mr. Tyagnabok, the head of the party,
has been trying to meet with members of the Jewish community to
convince them that he is not in any way anti-Semitic. He has
met with the United States' Ambassador and more recently with
the Israeli Ambassador. So the impression is that Mr. Tyagnabok
just doesn't control the members of his party.
That is not very comforting since the rhetoric is
continuing. It may, however, show that the party has no
discipline, which may stop them from introducing any serious
legislation to the Parliament. However, if the politics of
right wing nationalism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, are allowed
to fester and are ignored, the danger of this 7 percent growing
is very possible. Nobody is passing laws or even trying to pass
legislation against Jews in Ukraine. No one is calling for Jews
to be deported, or worse, God forbid. However, we need not wait
for something like that to happen.
We therefore appreciate the statements made by the
government, by Prime Minister Azarov stating that the
Government of Ukraine will never negotiate agreements for
coalition or legislation with Svoboda or any party that puts
forth anti-Semitism as part of its platform. While anti-
Semitism remains a political problem in Ukraine, there is by no
means a greater threat than in other East European countries
nor in many established European democracies where anti-Semitic
parties and leaders retain significant political support.
Moreover, the Government of Ukraine has a pretty good level of
high level participation and events organized by the Jewish
community including Holocaust commemoration.
Jewish life inside Ukraine is dynamic with the functioning
of numerous Jewish schools, vibrant religious life, and a
network of important cultural and community centers. In
addition, significant work is being done by Ukranian NGOs and
research institutions and by a network of scholars who are
committed to examining the historical evidence related to the
Holocaust, Soviet era official anti-Semitism and anti-Jewish
violence that erupted over the centuries. A number of energetic
publishers issue a wide array of books on Jewish culture,
Ukrainian Jewish history, Holocaust studies in Ukraine for a
general audience and for higher educational institutions.
Finally, Ukraine's state relations with Israel are on a
very strong footing, including in the cultural sphere, which
contributes to confidence of Ukraine's Jewish community and
reinforces strong links between the Jewish homeland and
Ukraine's Jewish diaspora. I hope that Ukraine continues its
development into a true Western democratic, pluralistic society
where all citizens will continue to feel safe and protected. It
is my hope that European leaders will all join in making that
statement reality. That Jews throughout Europe and indeed the
world will live as full citizens of their countries and that
anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism and other negative feelings of
discrimination and xenophobia are overpowered by feelings of
respect and harmony.
I would like to thank the NGOs, the basis of our great
democracy here, and civil society in the United States for
seeing beyond the borders of the United States and speaking out
on these issues. I especially want to thank Mark Levin and the
NCSJ for being our voice in Washington for so many years.
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Mr. Smith. Chief Rabbi Bleich, thank you very much for that
very powerful testimony and thank you for being here, for
coming all this way. I would like to now, Mr. Srulevitch, if
you would proceed.
STATEMENT OF MR. ANDREW SRULEVITCH, DIRECTOR OF EUROPEAN
AFFAIRS, ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE
Mr. Srulevitch. Mr. Chairman, on behalf of the anti-
Defamation League I want to express our appreciation to you and
to the members of the subcommittee for holding this hearing
today, and for the many hearings, letters and statements with
which you have underscored the importance of combating anti-
Semitism. ADL's written statement covers a variety of concerns
relevant to this hearing and the subcommittee, but one of the
most alarming, as has been spoken about, is the election of
neo-Nazi parties to European parliaments. Now this concern is
shared at the highest levels of the European Union.
Just 4 weeks ago, the EU Commissioner for Home Affairs,
Cecilia Malmstrom, the counterpart for our Attorney General,
said, ``Not since the Second World War have so many extremist
political movements had such a place in so many elected
parliamentary assemblies. In some countries we also have neo-
Nazis elected. If this trend continues the next European
elections for 2014 could strengthen these forces, and we should
not underestimate what this will mean for the European
project.''
Now since you have heard about Jobbik, though more could
and should be said, and about Svoboda, I want to speak about
Golden Dawn in Greece to make clear why Golden Dawn is a neo-
Nazi political party. It combines an ideology of ethnic purity,
anti-Semitism, and violence against minorities. Their published
platform proposes that ``only men and women of Greek descent
and consciousness should have full political rights.'' They
have declared that the purity and preservation of the Hellenic
race is of greater value than any individual person, and it is
written that Jews are again ``absolute evil.'' So when you read
this and you read reports that ``Mein Kampf'' is displayed at
their headquarters that shouldn't come as any surprise.
Golden Dawn's leader, however, has denied the Holocaust,
saying there were no gas chambers or crematoria in Auschwitz,
while at the same time another MP in their party who was the
member of a rock band called Pogrom, they had a song called
Auschwitz, among the lyrics to which were ``Auschwitz, how much
I love it.'' Now days ago, this same party filed a
parliamentary motion complaining that Greece commemorates the
Holocaust.
In October, a Golden Dawn MP read from the Protocols of the
Elders of Zion in a parliamentary debate and later wrote, ``The
fear of the Jews is obvious and this fact is enough for us to
realize that we are on the right path.'' And as has been widely
reported, vigilante groups of black-shirted Golden Dawn thugs
have terrorized dark-skinned people in Greece whether they are
there legally or undocumented. The immunity of three Golden
Dawn MPs was lifted in order to prosecute them for
participating in such acts of violence.
Now this violence also goes far beyond vandalism. Just last
month a 27-year-old Pakistani was stabbed to death. Police
discovered a variety of weapons along with dozens of Golden
Dawn leaflets at the home of one of his assailants. This is a
party that received 7 percent of the vote and is now polling at
around 10 percent. Now if such violent bigotry was supported or
even just condoned by one out of ten Greeks that would already
be alarming, but unfortunately we are seeing anti-Semitism and
intolerance in Greece beyond Golden Dawn.
Recent stories in the right wing Democratia newspaper have
referred to one Israeli of Greek origin as ``the characteristic
type of Greek Jewish businessman who changes his appearance
according to the circumstances of his work.'' And they
described his father as a characteristic Jew for having
business cunning. A popular Greek singer is currently
advertising his show with posters all around Athens showing an
intertwined swastika and Star of David. And the conviction of a
self-professed anti-Semite under Greece's anti-racism law was
overturned by the Athens appeal court which explained in its
decision, and I am quoting from their decision, ``the defendant
does not revile the Jews solely because of their racial and
ethnic origin, but mainly because of their aspirations to world
power, the methods they use to achieve these aims, and their
conspiratorial activities.'' Two days ago the head of Greece's
military tweeted that only ethnic Greeks should be allowed in
the military academy, and his proposal was immediately
supported by a Golden Dawn MP as well as a significant number
of MPs from the governing New Democracy party.
So when anti-Semitism and bigotry are tolerated in the
media, advertisements, the judiciary, and the military, Jewish
communities feel extremely vulnerable. And it is incumbent on
political leaders to speak out regularly and firmly and to
adopt zero tolerance policies for hate crimes and for hate
speech. We welcome the Greek Government's establishment of
special police units to combat hate violence, but strongly
encourage the government to be more vocal about the dangers
posed by Golden Dawn. Regrettably, Prime Minister Samaras has
only one critical statement about Golden Dawn on his official
Web site, condemning the slapping by a Golden Dawn MP of an MP
of the far left Syriza party.
I began with a quote from a European leader. I want to end
with something from a Greek leader. This is from the leader of
Greece's Socialist party, which participates in the governing
coalition, who recently said, ``We are seeing a form of
Mithridatism in Greek society today with regard to fascism.''
And he was referring to a king who ruled Anatolia two millennia
ago and took small doses of poison to innoculate himself. And
Mr. Venizelos continued, saying, ``There is a gradual drop by
drop dilution of the conscience, a loosening of reflexes.''
So Mr. Chairman and members of the subcommittee, I would
respectfully suggest that your voices can help counter that
dilution of conscience, that loosening of reflexes, because the
poison, that poison, the nature of Golden Dawn is known, and
the question is whether Greek society and the Greek Government
will respond with rejection or accommodation. So let us all do
what we can to encourage rejection. And thank you very much for
the honor of appearing before you today.
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Mr. Smith. Thank you very much for the work of ADL and your
leadership as well. Great testimony. Just a few questions and
then I will yield to my distinguished colleagues. Let me begin.
Rabbi Meyer, in your statement you talked about the second
level of anti-Semitism that thrives in the shadow of the first
and runs through the veins of European society, to use your
quotes, to the university leaders, policy makers and decision
makers. And you talk about how with this second level of anti-
Semitism the horrors of the Holocaust have not dampened it, and
it has not only survived but thrives in Europe today, and you
say as Jews we have very good reason to worry. My hope is--and
we do have large numbers of members of the media and some
watching by way of video telecast--this needs to be a warning,
and if you would like to elaborate on that as well.
And Chief Rabbi Bleich, you mentioned Mark Levin. I
traveled with Mark Levin, the executive director of NCSJ, in
1982 to Moscow and Leningrad. And I will never forget, not only
did we meet with refuseniks and did our level best--and he was
a tremendous leader and still is--to try to get the Soviets to
allow Jews to leave, but I will never forget we went to Kazan
Cathedral, which was a museum on atheism, and the Muslim faith,
the Christian faith, and the Jewish faith were mocked. And a
whole streaming group of Young Pioneers, little children, came
walking through with their kerchiefs, and we heard some of the
translation and it was all about how stupid religion was and
how evil it actually was. And it was a wake-up call, and of
course many churches and synagogues were turned into museums on
atheism.
Now our earlier testimony spoke to the issue of aggressive
secularism which is making the understanding of the Jewish
people harder by people who almost, as Solzhenitsyn said about
militant atheism in the Communist model, a more aggressive
secularism also discounts faith as trivial or worse. And then
we have as was said earlier by one of our witnesses about this
radical Islamists being a root cause. So you have all of these
competing views. And I think the secularism and the Islamists
creates a very volatile and potent synergy of hate.
So your thoughts on that and any others who would like to
speak to that issue of this second level of anti-Semitism.
Rabbi Meyer?
Rabbi Meyer. Yes, I have in the written testimony, I have
indeed spoken about how I feel we have a good reason to worry.
And I would say my analysis of it is that those reasons are
based on three realities and possibly four. I mean the first
one being that clearly we start to see a limitation of
religious rights, and very bluntly it actually means today that
there are countries in Europe where a certain number of rituals
are not permitted. As long as Europe is not too united we can
actually sort out the problem. Because what is not permitted
here is permitted elsewhere and this is how it works. If I
cannot get the kosher slaughtering wherever I live, I can get
it just across the border that might not be too far away.
But there is certainly a fear, I think, within the Jewish
community that if it becomes strongly united in terms of laws
then that even won't be an option and therefore we might end up
being actually left out with no possibility of practicing
Judaism. So that is the first level of the worry. I think the
second level of being worried is because of this legal aspect
and what I call the cloak of respectability. When you take a
feeling, an anti-Semitic feeling and you dress it up as a
legal, intellectual debate, then you run the risk of detaching,
entirely detaching the reality of the topic you are talking
about from the reality of the people to a truly abstract level.
And I think that in itself is very dangerous.
Now the third level where I see a danger, and sadly I have
to say for that I don't think there is much we can do, is the
fact that we are fewer and fewer in numbers as Jews in Europe.
The decline of the Jewish community is extremely strong, and
what it means is that for most European, talking about Jews is
an intellectual exercise that doesn't relate to a human reality
because they don't really know Jews. Jews are not really part
of the popular culture. They might have been part of an anti-
Semitic trend that has existed over the century, but we are not
really part of the popular culture.
I just give you one very simple example some years ago. For
Hanukkah there was commercials--and I remember I was in
France--with something like: ``Light your Hanukkah candles.''
And they have made a survey asking people, what does that mean?
What do you understand of that advert on the billboards? And
people answered they thought that Hanukkah was the brand of the
candles. Because there is no knowledge. That is what I mean,
when there is not enough Jews to create a real knowledge of
what Judaism is. And therefore, any sort of discussion on
Judaism, on Jewish issues such as the one we had in Germany
about circumcision becomes a purely intellectual one
disconnected from a human reality. And I think when you start
to disconnect a debate from a human face and from a
confrontation with someone is front of you as a human being and
it becomes a purely theoretical exercise, then that is where it
opens door for all sorts of very slippery roads, and I think
that is in that sense that I feel particularly worried.
Mr. Smith. Let me ask Mr. Fellegi. When Chief Rabbi Metzger
dedicated Hungary's oldest synagogue in Obuda--I could be
mispronouncing that--in 2010, Prime Minister Netanyahu said,
``the reopening of this synagogue is a true symbol of the
Jewish renaissance in Hungary.'' I wonder if you could, in
light of Jobbik and its virulent anti-Semitic views, if you
could speak briefly about the renaissance and the reaction of
Prime Minister Orban to Jobbik and his view in terms of
combating anti-Semitism.
Mr. Fellegi. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for your
question. I think it is very relevant and important. I would
put this question into the perspective of two things. One is
the level of sensitivity in society toward racism, xenophobic
views and within this anti-Semitism. This relates to the points
that the Rabbi made just a minute ago that the important thing
is to make sure that society understands the framework in which
all these atrocities happen in our societies, and we have a
clear understanding that there has to be a zero tolerance
policy toward racism of any kind.
The other thing that is important is to make clear that
there are at least two interconnected levels of frameworks of
understanding and making actions against anti-Semitism and
racism. One is civil society, the NGO world and all those
people who take up the issue, and make sure that through
education and through civil actions and organizations, society
can be educated into a more tolerant and more sensitive
situation. And the other is what your question was basically
about is, is the political reaction, what government is doing
or not doing vis-a-vis racism and within that anti-Semitism.
In terms of our civic society duties and our situation,
indeed, as I mentioned in my brief opening statement but I
elaborated on this in my written statement, there has been a
huge revival of Jewish life in Hungary which is very promising
and it has been welcomed by all the political parties in
Hungary. The important part of it is that the official
Hungary's track record is not impeccable, in certain cases we
were slow in denying or denouncing actions that can be deemed
as racist or anti-Semitism. But the overall track record of the
country, I think, is positive and it is improving. While at the
same time, what we cannot deny is there is an increase of anti-
Semitic atrocities in the country, in verbal and physical as
well, but rather more verbal.
So what I would reply, very briefly, is that Prime Minister
Orban, last summer, gave an interview to a German magazine
called Focus, in which he announced the zero tolerance policy
toward racism and anti-Semitism. And let me just highlight
another point, because there is a long list of potentially
quoted statements by Hungarian politicians denying and
denouncing anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic acts, but let me just
refer to the Prime Minister's statement in Parliament he made
after the incident with this Jobbik MP, Mr. Gyongyosi, who
wanted to list Jewish representatives and government people as
national security risk for Hungary. And he made it very clear
that Hungary will not tolerate such acts and any form of anti-
Semitism, and the government's job is to fight this. Thank you.
Mr. Smith. Yes.
Mr. Srulevitch. I just had a few comments on Hungary. Mr.
Fellegi is right that the government has been making progress
on this issue, that they have made statements condemning anti-
Semitic actions. However, one concern is that they haven't yet
made clear that Jobbik is not simply a political competitor but
that Jobbik is a threat to Hungarian democracy. When your
colleague Joseph Crowley, Representative Crowley, wrote a
letter to Prime Minister Orban last spring with concerns about
statements of anti-Semitism and homophobia in Hungary, the
response that he received from the Prime Minister was a request
for help in shutting down an American based Hungarian language
Web site. Mr. Fellegi mentioned kuruc.info as being one of the
prime instigators of anti-Semitism in Hungary.
And while that may be true, it is also true that one can
find on Jobbik's Web site the ``Protocols of the Elders of
Zion.'' One can find on Jobbik's Web site examples of Holocaust
denial, something for which a specific individual had been
convicted in Hungary. But I don't speak Hungarian, and these
are things that I am able to find on the Hungarian Web site. So
there is, as Mr. Fellegi said, there is more that can be done.
But we do need to also recognize the steps that have been
taken. After there were three instances of hate speech in the
Parliament, the Parliament did change the law to allow the
speaker to punish the person who was inciting.
When after Mr. Gyongyosi's statement there was a civic
demonstration against hate speech, the government did decide to
send a representative. That was a very important step,
something that we hadn't seen before. So again these are
important steps, but the step of really identifying and
targeting Jobbik as a threat to Hungarian democracy is the one
we would like to see.
Mr. Smith. Very briefly.
Mr. Fellegi. Yes. If I may I would like to add to Andrew's
point, fully agreeing with his assessment of the situation in
terms of Hungary. It needs to make more to make sure that the
situation is not developing into the wrong direction. Let me
just add to this point. I found the exact statement by Prime
Minister Orban referring to Mr. Gyongyosi's statement in
Parliament requesting this Jewish registration issue. ``As long
as I am in this post no one in Hungary can be harmed because of
their faith, convictions or origin. I would like to make it
clear that we Hungarians will protect our Jewish compatriots.''
Then adding that ``Hungary has suffered dictatorship, and
nothing or no one will derail Hungary from the democratic
conviction.''
So this is very clearly a statement which shows that the
mainstream Hungarian political forces from the left to the
right fully understand that xenophobia, racism in general, and
when it appears in politics especially, is against democracy as
such. It is about the total democractic values of, and history
of these countries. So the real issue here is to fight for
democracy and at the same time, through democractic means,
beating racism. Thank you.
Mr. Smith. I will come back to a couple of other questions,
but I yield to Mr. Marino.
Mr. Marino. Thank you, Chairman. Gentlemen, thank you for
being here today, and it is truly an honor for me to be having
this dialogue with you. I am not going to direct my question or
questions to any particular individual, however, please feel
free to chime in at any time. I do want to preface with a brief
statement, and I usually do not do this. As a prosecutor I get
right to the heart of things.
But my father was a man of few means, salt of the earth. He
was a firefighter and a janitor to raise his family. He passed
away shortly before I was sworn into Congress, but he always
said to me, Son, it is very difficult to reason with stupid
people. And I have twisted that a little bit, added another
phrase to it, and I have said, it is very dangerous because you
cannot reason with stupid, arrogant people, which is a deadly
combination. And my son who is 13, we watch the news together
and I try to refrain from voicing my opinion--I don't always
have complete control over myself when I hear some things--
because I want to hear from him. And Victor has said to me on a
couple of occasions, not facetiously--he is a very bright kid.
He studies physics a great deal and space in general. And he
says, you know something, Dad, there is a reason that
extraterrestrials do not visit us here on Earth, because there
is no intelligent life. And he was very serious when he said
that.
The President has an opportunity, the quintessential
opportunity when he goes to Israel very shortly to let the rest
of the world know and the good people of the world that we are
going to stand by them and fight the bad people in the world. I
think this is just an opportunity that he should take advantage
of and speak very clearly and very directly about.
But now my question is, what specifically can we do here in
Washington, what can Congress do to, if not eliminate the
problems that we are having that you have each so eloquently
spoke about but at least mitigate it? And how do you get the
point across to people who just do not want to listen to it?
How do you deal with that? So anyone? Go ahead, sir.
Mr. Silberstein. First of all, you should know that the
world really listens to the United States. So when you in your
contacts with other countries keep repeating how unacceptable
it is in countries when they tolerate in any way both anti-
Semitism and other form of racism, constantly, I am sure this
will have an effect.
And let me add one thing which maybe only has a Swedish
perspective. We have huge problems in Sweden with the fact that
on Internet the hate that is spread there is beyond belief. And
we have tried to do something about this. And I don't know the
legal details about this, but the Swedish authorities say we
cannot do anything because the servers are placed in the United
States. And I guess it is hard for you to do anything either,
but if anyone could look at this and see if there is anything
that could be done. Because what is being published on the
Internet, not the least about Jews, you would be terrified if
you could read that. So please, if you can, do something.
Mr. Marino. Now please bear in mind that our First
Amendment to the Constitution here in the United States is very
clear on freedom of speech. It does not mean that one has
unfettered access to freedom of speech such as shouting
``fire'' in a movie theater, which is one of the cases, but do
you think that the courts, the Supreme Court should get
involved in situations like this? Because evidently, if issues
like this are raised in the House there are going to be appeals
and lawsuits right straight to the Supreme Court on controlling
the Internet and what people can say on it.
Mr. Silberstein. I understand that this is technical. I
know nothing about this. For me, being the president of the
Swedish Committee Against anti-Semitism, when I see what is
being written about me, about my son, about my family, and
about so many other Jews, and they also incite, they want
people to do things. I don't know enough about your laws here
in the United States, but if there is any way you could do
anything that would be so much appreciated.
Mr. Marino. Chairman, may I have some more time? Thank you.
Anyone else?
Rabbi Baker. I would like, if I could, to join this
discussion. We have often focused on the number of the problems
that we see with anti-Semites throughout these places. I think
it is important to recognize what may be equally important is
the number of anti-anti-Semites, people that really respond,
act, and speak out. And that is not so common. And there are
still places where I think political leaders calculate that
doing something on behalf of these concerns, these complaints,
may be politically costly to them. Unfortunately that is true
in too many places.
Clearly there is a hate on the Internet that we see as
ever-present. It simply replaced the kind of anti-Semitism that
decades ago would be in broadsides or written in graffiti or so
on. There are ways that go well beyond violating the principles
of the First Amendment to encourage those who moderate what
goes on the Internet to control, to limit, but also I think it
reflects the importance of getting voices to speak out.
I know that even as I say this we need to focus as well on
specific steps that governments can take. And one cannot
underestimate the importance of your voices here in Washington,
of Congress taking these issues up with different governments,
with your counterparts. It goes on, for example, in the OCSE
parliamentary assembly. But I really mean in specific ways.
There are proposals from Jewish community organizations in
Hungary, for example, on the reform of the national educational
curriculum which is ongoing. Prime Minister Orban who has been
outspoken, generally, somehow still as it filters down hasn't
found a way to incorporate this. This would be critical.
We have heard about Sweden. They do an incredible job of
monitoring incidents of hate crime, but the very institution
that does this job is hampered because the government will not
ask it to look more carefully as to who the perpetrators of
these crimes are. Again, I think because it will point out as
we heard, particularly in southern Sweden, that much of this
comes out of an Arab or Muslim community, and that would
require specific actions to be taken.
The issue of kosher slaughter has been raised. The reality
is that in various countries even it if it is possible to
appeal to religious freedom traditions, Jewish communities say,
``We won't do it. It will create a climate of anti-Semitism.''
In the Netherlands, the Jewish community said we can't oppose
this on the principle of religious freedom because we fear that
more Dutch citizens are more disposed to principles of animal
rights than religious freedom. So when you confront this, I
think hearing from American voices, about how this plays out
here, if you will, it would be a very helpful step.
And then finally, we have identified the basic concern of
Jewish community security. I am pleased at the OSCE that
literally today the chair-in-office and the director of ODIHR
have written to the German Minister of Interior, who has
offered to play a facilitating role to organize a European-wide
conference under the OSCE auspices to focus on security. The
very basic element comes even to just financial support for the
need, for involving police and law enforcement. There is much
that we have done in this country that can be replicated. We
shall try to press these good examples so other countries can
come forward, this will be an opportunity. And again it is a
place where the U.S. sits around the table, where Members of
Congress sit together with members of Parliaments of other OSCE
countries. So those specific steps hopefully can be advocated
and I trust implemented.
Mr. Marino. Let me just add that I am now becoming a member
involved in the NATO Parliamentary Assembly and I have been to
my first meeting, and we sat down of course with 27 other NATO
members. And I will certainly take this up when appropriate
with the 27 other nations and have a frank discussion about
this.
Chairman, does anyone else want to say anything? May the
Rabbi speak?
Rabbi Bleich. Yes, a few things about the questions that
were asked. First of all, it will sound funny, but I think that
there should be a way that the Congress should find some tool,
since most of what is going on, what is based on these servers
here in the United States and is being used for anti-Semitism
overseas, it may be allowed in the United States, but overseas
in many countries incitement and racial hatred is illegal. It
is not included in freedom of speech. And there should be, I am
sure, a way, a creative way to find to limit these servers that
are maybe based in the United States, but are literally or
virtually if you have a breaking of law in other countries
throughout the world by inciting anti-Semitism and hatred.
I want to mention just something that the chairman
mentioned before about the religion and the question of
atheism. In Ukraine, which I don't believe is strongly unique
but is quite, quite strong, the religious community has
actually come together in a very, very strong and organized
way. There is a Council of Churches and religious organizations
that is basically representative of 95 percent of the faithful,
different religions in Ukraine. And if you have 80 percent of
the population consider themselves religious, it is probably
one of the more powerful NGOs today in Ukraine.
And I am one of the founders and also co-chair, and we have
come together many, many times to counter not only anti-
Semitism but anti-Islamism, Islamophobia and other racial and
other xenophobic acts or rhetoric that has come up in Ukraine.
So it is quite interesting that today the religious community,
I think, is one of the more outspoken, and I think that is
something concrete that can be and should be mentioned by the
United States Congress when they are negotiating with Ukraine.
And there is so much to negotiate with them about, to just put
in some honorable positive mention about the good things that
are happening, and I am sure they will accept the criticism a
lot better that way.
Mr. Marino. Well, thank you. And Rabbi, just to conclude, I
sit on the Judiciary Committee and I am vice chair of the
Internet Subcommittee, so perhaps we can address that as well.
Thank you. And Chairman, thank you so much for giving me the
extra time.
Mr. Smith. Oh, thank you very much. We do have to end the
hearing in a moment or two. There is another hearing coming
into this actual hearing room. But I just want to just bring up
a couple of final things. Michael Horowitz was very helpful and
instrumental in promoting the importance of this hearing and I
want to thank him publicly. But also, he had an idea that I
hope all of us take back too, and that is that there is a
compelling need for highly visible visits, and in some cases it
will be revisits, by heads of state and very high ranking
members of government to synagogues in their respective
countries, particularly in the capital cities throughout
Europe, to speak out against anti-Semitism.
And one of our action items that we will undertake here as
part of this committee will be to write and to make that
appeal. If you have been there, great. Go back. The time has
come to go back and to really speak out. And Rabbi Baker
pointed out the huge increase of anti-Semitic acts in France,
and they need to thanked, frankly, for at least chronicling and
being willing to come forward with the information, but it is a
very disturbing piece of information at that. So those kinds of
high visibility contacts, I think, would have an impact.
And I do have a lot of questions but we have run out of
time. But if there is anything any of you would like to say in
conclusion as we conclude this hearing, I want to thank you.
Without objection, there is a letter from the Simon Wiesenthal
Center from Mark Weitzman that will be included in the record
without objection.
Reverend Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, president of Interfaith
Alliance, has sent a letter of support of this effort signed by
50 eminent individuals, many of them representing leading
religious and human rights organizations. That also will be
made a part of the record.
Would anyone like to just make a concluding remark? We will
leave it at that. Thank you so much and we will continue on.
This will be the first in this Congress of what will be a
series of hearings on combating anti-Semitism. It is not the
last. Thank you.
[Whereupon, at 12 o'clock p.m., the subcommittee was
adjourned.]
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