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                         [H.A.S.C. No. 112-141]

       DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND IMPACT ON

                          MILITARY OPERATIONS

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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                      ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                              HEARING HELD

                             JULY 18, 2012



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                   HOUSE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
                      One Hundred Twelfth Congress

            HOWARD P. ``BUCK'' McKEON, California, Chairman
ROSCOE G. BARTLETT, Maryland         ADAM SMITH, Washington
MAC THORNBERRY, Texas                SILVESTRE REYES, Texas
WALTER B. JONES, North Carolina      LORETTA SANCHEZ, California
W. TODD AKIN, Missouri               MIKE McINTYRE, North Carolina
J. RANDY FORBES, Virginia            ROBERT A. BRADY, Pennsylvania
JEFF MILLER, Florida                 ROBERT ANDREWS, New Jersey
JOE WILSON, South Carolina           SUSAN A. DAVIS, California
FRANK A. LoBIONDO, New Jersey        JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island
MICHAEL TURNER, Ohio                 RICK LARSEN, Washington
JOHN KLINE, Minnesota                JIM COOPER, Tennessee
MIKE ROGERS, Alabama                 MADELEINE Z. BORDALLO, Guam
TRENT FRANKS, Arizona                JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut
BILL SHUSTER, Pennsylvania           DAVE LOEBSACK, Iowa
K. MICHAEL CONAWAY, Texas            NIKI TSONGAS, Massachusetts
DOUG LAMBORN, Colorado               CHELLIE PINGREE, Maine
ROB WITTMAN, Virginia                LARRY KISSELL, North Carolina
DUNCAN HUNTER, California            MARTIN HEINRICH, New Mexico
JOHN C. FLEMING, M.D., Louisiana     BILL OWENS, New York
MIKE COFFMAN, Colorado               JOHN R. GARAMENDI, California
TOM ROONEY, Florida                  MARK S. CRITZ, Pennsylvania
TODD RUSSELL PLATTS, Pennsylvania    TIM RYAN, Ohio
SCOTT RIGELL, Virginia               HANK JOHNSON, Georgia
CHRIS GIBSON, New York               BETTY SUTTON, Ohio
VICKY HARTZLER, Missouri             COLLEEN HANABUSA, Hawaii
JOE HECK, Nevada                     KATHLEEN C. HOCHUL, New York
BOBBY SCHILLING, Illinois            JACKIE SPEIER, California
JON RUNYAN, New Jersey               RON BARBER, Arizona
AUSTIN SCOTT, Georgia
TIM GRIFFIN, Arkansas
STEVEN PALAZZO, Mississippi
ALLEN B. WEST, Florida
MARTHA ROBY, Alabama
MO BROOKS, Alabama
TODD YOUNG, Indiana
                  Robert L. Simmons II, Staff Director
                       Catherine McElroy, Counsel
                          Paul Lewis, Counsel
                Michael Casey, Professional Staff Member
                    Lauren Hauhn, Research Assistant






































                            C O N T E N T S

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                     CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF HEARINGS
                                  2012

                                                                   Page

Hearing:

Wednesday, July 18, 2012, Disclosures of National Security 
  Information and Impact on Military Operations..................     1

Appendix:

Wednesday, July 18, 2012.........................................     9
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                        WEDNESDAY, JULY 18, 2012
  DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND IMPACT ON MILITARY 
                               OPERATIONS
              STATEMENTS PRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

McKeon, Hon. Howard P. ``Buck,'' a Representative from 
  California, Chairman, Committee on Armed Services..............     1

                                APPENDIX

Documents Submitted for the Record:

    Roll Call #35, Motion to Close Full Committee Hearing on 
      Disclosures of National Security Information and Impact on 
      Military Operations........................................    13
 
  DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND IMPACT ON MILITARY 
                               OPERATIONS

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                          House of Representatives,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                          Washington, DC, Wednesday, July 18, 2012.
    The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:12 a.m., in room 
2118, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Howard P. ``Buck'' 
McKeon (chairman of the committee) presiding.

    OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HOWARD P. ``BUCK'' MCKEON, A 
 REPRESENTATIVE FROM CALIFORNIA, CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON ARMED 
                            SERVICES

    The Chairman. The hearing will come to order. Good morning.
    The House Armed Services Committee [HASC] meets to receive 
testimony on disclosures of national security information and 
impact on military operations. The committee will receive 
testimony and discuss matters that if disclosed in a public 
hearing would endanger national security and therefore requires 
the hearing to be closed to the public.
    Clause 2(g)(2) of House Rule XI and Committee Rule 9(a) 
requires the committee to vote by record vote in open session 
with a majority present to close the hearing to the public. We 
have scheduled this vote on the disclosure of national security 
information hearing today. We will not conduct opening 
statements for this hearing today. Immediately after the vote 
to close, we will recess this hearing and proceed with the 
sequestration hearing. As previously announced, the committee 
will resume the hearing on disclosure of national security 
information in closed session for Members only at 10 a.m. on 
Thursday with a swept hearing room.
    Finally, let me remind Members that we will follow the 
normal before and after gavel attendance list in determining 
the order for questioning witnesses. This means that when we 
reconvene this hearing in closed session on Thursday, we will 
follow the Member order established today at the gavel.
    The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Texas, Mr. 
Thornberry, vice chair of the HASC, for the purpose of a 
motion.
    Mr. Thornberry. Mr. Chairman, pursuant to House Rule XI 
clause 2(g) and Committee Rule 9, I move that the remainder of 
today's hearing on the disclosures of national security 
information and impact on military operations and proceedings 
up to five additional consecutive days of hearings on this 
subject shall be closed to the public because disclosure of 
testimony, evidence, and other matters to be considered would 
endanger national security.
    The Chairman. The question is on the motion of the 
gentleman from Texas, Mr. Thornberry.
    So many as are in favor will vote aye.
    Those opposed no. House and committee rules require a 
recorded vote. The clerk will call the roll.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. McKeon?
    The Chairman. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. McKeon votes aye.
    Mr. Smith?
    Mr. Smith. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Smith votes aye.
    Mr. Bartlett?
    Mr. Bartlett. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Bartlett votes aye.
    Mr. Reyes?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Reyes?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Thornberry?
    Mr. Thornberry. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Thornberry votes aye.
    Ms. Sanchez?
    Ms. Sanchez. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Sanchez votes aye.
    Mr. Jones?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Jones?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Forbes?
    Mr. Forbes. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Forbes votes aye.
    Mr. Andrews?
    Mr. Andrews. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Andrews votes aye.
    Mr. Miller?
    Mr. Miller. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Miller votes aye.
    Mrs. Davis?
    Mrs. Davis. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Davis votes aye.
    Mr. Wilson?
    Mr. Wilson. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Wilson votes aye.
    Mr. Langevin?
    Mr. Langevin. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Langevin votes aye.
    Mr. LoBiondo?
    Mr. LoBiondo. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. LoBiondo votes aye.
    Mr. Larsen?
    Mr. Larsen. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Larsen votes aye.
    Mr. Turner?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Turner?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Cooper?
    Mr. Cooper. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Cooper votes aye.
    Mr. Kline?
    Mr. Kline. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Kline votes aye.
    Ms. Bordallo?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Bordallo?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Courtney?
    Mr. Courtney. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Courtney votes aye.
    Mr. Franks?
    Mr. Franks. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Franks votes aye.
    Mr. Loebsack?
    Mr. Loebsack. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Loebsack votes aye.
    Mr. Shuster?
    Mr. Shuster. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Shuster votes aye.
    Ms. Tsongas?
    Ms. Tsongas. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Tsongas votes aye.
    Mr. Conaway?
    Mr. Conaway. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Conaway votes aye.
    Ms. Pingree?
    Ms. Pingree. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Pingree votes aye.
    Mr. Lamborn?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Lamborn?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Kissell?
    Mr. Kissell. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Kissell votes aye.
    Mr. Wittman?
    Mr. Wittman. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Wittman votes aye.
    Mr. Heinrich?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Heinrich?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Hunter?
    Mr. Hunter. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Hunter votes aye.
    Mr. Owens?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Owens?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Coffman?
    Mr. Coffman. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Coffman votes aye.
    Mr. Critz?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Critz?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rigell?
    Mr. Rigell. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rigell votes aye.
    Ms. Sutton?
    Ms. Sutton. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Sutton votes aye.
    Mr. Gibson?
    Mr. Gibson. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Gibson votes aye.
    Ms. Hanabusa?
    Ms. Hanabusa. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Hanabusa votes aye.
    Mrs. Hartzler?
    Mrs. Hartzler. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Hartzler votes aye.
    Ms. Hochul?
    Ms. Hochul. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Hochul votes aye.
    Dr. Heck?
    Dr. Heck. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Dr. Heck votes aye.
    Ms. Speier?
    Ms. Speier. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Speier votes aye.
    Mr. Schilling?
    Mr. Schilling. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Schilling votes aye.
    Mr. Barber?
    Mr. Barber. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Barber votes aye.
    Mr. Runyan?
    Mr. Runyan. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Runyan votes aye.
    Mr. Scott?
    Mr. Scott. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Scott votes aye.
    Mr. Griffin?
    Mr. Griffin. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Griffin votes aye.
    Mr. Palazzo?
    Mr. Palazzo. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Palazzo votes aye.
    Mr. West?
    Mr. West. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. West votes aye.
    Mrs. Roby?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Roby?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brooks?
    Mr. Brooks. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brooks votes aye.
    Mr. Young?
    Mr. Young. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Young votes aye.
    Mr. Reyes?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Reyes?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Jones?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Jones?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Turner?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Turner?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Bordallo?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Ms. Bordallo?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Lamborn?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Lamborn?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Heinrich?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Heinrich?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Owens?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Owens?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Critz?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Critz?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
    Mr. Johnson. Aye.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson votes aye.
    Mrs. Roby?
    [No response.]
    Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Roby?
    The Chairman. Is there any Member who hasn't voted? The 
clerk will report the tally.
    Ms. Pearce. Mr. Chairman, there are 44 ayes.
    The Chairman. A majority of the committee being present, 
the motion is agreed to. Pursuant to the previously adopted 
motion, I ask unanimous consent that the chair be authorized to 
declare a recess.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    The chair declares this hearing in recess. We will resume 
this hearing in closed session tomorrow, July 19th, at 10 a.m. 
in this building, 2118.
    We will now move into the sequestration hearing as soon as 
the witnesses have taken their place at the table. This hearing 
will now be in recess.
    [Whereupon, at 10:22 a.m., the committee was recessed, to 
reconvene at 10:00 a.m., July 19, 2012, in closed session.]



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