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                          COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS
                              UNITED STATES SENATE

                           ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS

                                 FIRST SESSION

                                       ON

                                     S. 147

    TO EXPRESS THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES REGARDING THE UNITED STATES
      RELATIONSHIP WITH NATIVE HAWAIIANS AND TO PROVIDE A PROCESS FOR THE
       RECOGNITION BY THE UNITED STATES OF THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNING
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                                    HEARING

                                   BEFORE THE

                          COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS
                              UNITED STATES SENATE

                           ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS

                                 FIRST SESSION

                                       ON

                                     S. 147

    TO EXPRESS THE POLICY OF THE UNITED STATES REGARDING THE UNITED STATES
      RELATIONSHIP WITH NATIVE HAWAIIANS AND TO PROVIDE A PROCESS FOR THE
       RECOGNITION BY THE UNITED STATES OF THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN GOVERNING
                                     ENTITY

                                   __________

                                 MARCH 1, 2005
                                 WASHINGTON, DC

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                          COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS

                         JOHN McCAIN, Arizona, Chairman

                  BYRON L. DORGAN, North Dakota, Vice Chairman

    PETE V. DOMENICI, New Mexico         DANIEL K. INOUYE, Hawaii
    CRAIG THOMAS, Wyoming                KENT CONRAD, North Dakota
    GORDON SMITH, Oregon                 DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii
    LISA MURKOWSKI, Alaska               TIM JOHNSON, South Dakota
    MICHAEL D. CRAPO, Idaho              MARIA CANTWELL, Washington
    RICHARD BURR, North Carolina
    TOM COBURN, M.D., Oklahoma

                     Jeanne Bumpus, Majority Staff Director

            Patricia M. Zell, Minority Staff Director/Chief Counsel

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                                C O N T E N T S

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    S. 147, text of..................................................     3
    Statements:
        Akaka, Hon. Daniel K., U.S. Senator from Hawaii..............    41
        Apoliona, Haunani, chairperson, Board of Trustees, Office of
          Hawaiian Affairs...........................................    51
        Bennett, Mark, attorney general, State of Hawaii.............    46
        Case, Hon. Ed, U.S. Representative from Hawaii...............    42
        Danner, Jade, director, Government Affairs and Community
          Consultation, Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement......    55
        Dorgan, Hon. Byron L., U.S. Senator from North Dakota, vice
          chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs......................    40
        Faleomavaega, Hon. Eni F.H., U.S. Delegate from American
          Samoa......................................................    43
        Hall, Tex, president, National Congress of American Indians..    53
        Kane, Micah, chairman, Hawaiian Homes Commission.............    51
        Kitka, Julie, president, Alaska Federation of Natives........    53
        Lingle, Linda, Governor, from Hawaii.........................    46
        McCain, Hon. John, U.S. Senator from Arizona, chairman,
          Committee on Indian Affairs................................     1

                                    Appendix

    Prepared statements:
        Abercrombie, Hon. Neil, U.S. Representative from Hawaii......    63
        Aina, Nellie.................................................   197
        Apio, Leialoha...............................................   196
        Apoliona, Haunani (with attachment)..........................    69
        Burgess, H. William, attorney................................    88
        Case, Hon. Ed, U.S. Representative from Hawaii...............    64
        Conklin, Kenneth R., Ph.D....................................    94
        Crowell Jr., Harold K.,......................................   184
        Crowell, MaryAnn.............................................   185
        Danner, Jade (with attachment)...............................    99
        Danner, Robin Puanani, president and CEO, Council for Native
          Hawaiian Advancement.......................................   104
        Dorgan, Hon. Byron L., U.S. Senator from North Dakota, vice
          chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs......................    65
        Fyfe, Kai'opua, director, The Koani Foundation...............   106
        Gaui, Michelle K.............................................   193
        Garcia-Ballard, Li, president, Native Hawaiian Economic
          Alliance...................................................   107
        Hall, Tex (with attachment)..................................   108
        Huihui, Lavaina..............................................   192
        Inouye, Hon. Daniel K., U.S. Senator from Hawaii.............    65
        Johnson, Hokuala.............................................   112
        Johnson, Rubellite Kawena Kinney.............................   113
        Kai, Ka'onohi Keali'iokapo...................................   118
        Kama Jr, Herman Kahalenani...................................   119
        Kama, Luana Na'mi............................................   120
        Keppeler, H.K. Bruss, chairman, Government Relations
          Committee, Native Hawaiian Chamber of Commerce.............   121
        Kuroiwa Jr., James Isamu.....................................   123
        Lagon, Olin Kealoha, chief executive officer, Hawaiian
          Homestead Technology, Inc..................................   126
        Lau, Brandi Ka'ala, vice president, Council for Native
          Hawaiian Advancement.......................................   127
        Laughlin, Michael............................................   189
        Lee Loy, Emmett E., attorney (with attachment)...............   128
        Lingle, Linda, Governor, from Hawaii.........................    66
        Loa, Chief Maui, Hou Band of Native Hawaiians of the Blood of
          Hawaii (with attachment)...................................   152
        Loui, Miriam P., president, NHBA Board of Directors..........   179
        Mokiao, Raymond and Annie....................................   186
        Nahoopii, Daniel K...........................................   180
        Nakoa, Austin P., chairman, Native Hawaiian Economic Alliance   182
        Naleieha, Abigail L..........................................   183
        Namu'o, Clyde W., administrator, Office of Hawaiian Affairs
          (with letters).............................................   198
        Oshiro, Lisa C...............................................   456
        Peahi Jr., Apela.............................................   458
        Richards, Paul Pakahanui.....................................   459
        Rodrigues, Joe...............................................   461
        Sang Sr., Anthony H., chairman, State Council of Hawaiian
          Homestead Associations (with attachment)...................   462
        Sang, Dawn K.................................................   191
        Sang, JoAnn U................................................   188
        Sang, Roy Kaleo..............................................   190
        Schoettle, Walter, R., attorney (with attachment)............   465
        Young, Candy.................................................   187
        Young, Elaine................................................   195
        Young, Stephan...............................................   194
    Additional material submitted for the record:
        Kanahele, Pu'uhonua Dennis Bumpy, lecture by Professor
          Francis Anthony Boyle on December 28, 2004.................   484
        Letters......................................................   498

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                             TUESDAY, MARCH 1, 2005

                                           U.S. Senate,
                                   Committee on Indian Affairs,
                                                        Washington, DC.
        The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m. in room
    485, Russell Senate Building, Hon. John McCain (chairman of the
    committee) presiding.
        Present: Senators McCain, Akaka, and Dorgan.

       STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN McCAIN, U.S. SENATOR FROM ARIZONA,
                 CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS

        The Chairman. Good morning. Please take your seats and we
    will begin the hearing on time.
        I am pleased to convene this hearing this morning on S.
    147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of 2005,
    which my friends from Hawaii, Senators Akaka and Inouye have
    worked so hard to advance. I might add that Senator Inouye is
    ill this morning. I got a call from him. He is a little under
    the weather, and so he will not be here this morning, but he
    obviously has a very longstanding commitment and involvement on
    this issue.
        S. 147 legislates a process whereby Native Hawaiians can
    re-constitute a governmental entity. The history of the
    Hawaiian Islands and their annexation in the United States is
    not one of the shining moments in our history. That said, my
    reservations with this legislation have been reported more
    widely, in fact, than I anticipated. First, I want to be sure
    that the recognition of a Native Hawaiian government is not
    inconsistent with any understanding or agreements at the time
    of statehood in 1959. My staff on the Indian Affairs Committee
    has been researching this issue and I am sure others have been
    doing that as well.
        Second, I think the bill should not be read to release the
    State of Hawaii of any liabilities it has incurred or any
    obligations that it undertook as part of the statehood process.
        Finally, I feel that the resources are currently available
    to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the Indian Health Service and
    other Federal agencies conducting Indian programs are already
    inadequate to meet the needs of Indian people. We want to be
    very careful about spreading it any thinner than they already
    are with the addition of a large population of new program
    recipients.
        I look forward to addressing these issues this morning. I
    understand that there are many people who have asked to testify
    today who we could not accommodate, including the Association
    of Hawaiian Civic Clubs. Regrettably, although our committee
    invited the Department of Justice to testify, they chose not to
    send a witness to today's hearing. I hope we can get the
    Administration's views on this bill at a later time.
        [Text of S. 147 follows:]

        The Chairman. Please know that the committee will very
    carefully consider any written testimony it receives. I thank
    you all for being here, and I want to emphasize I am keeping an
    open mind on this issue. I have reservations, but I think those
    reservations will be ventilated here in this hearing process.
        Senator Dorgan.

      STATEMENT OF HON. BYRON L. DORGAN, U.S. SENATOR FROM NORTH
           DAKOTA, VICE CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS

        Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much.
        Let me just as a point of personal privilege as we begin
    this process say that this is the last hearing that will be
    attended by Patricia Zell, who has been the chief of staff on
    the minority side for so many years. She has worked with this
    committee for 24 years. There is perhaps no one in this country
    who is as knowledgeable and has committed their lives quite as
    wholly as Patricia Zell has to so many important causes. The
    committee will miss her expertise, but let all of us thank her
    for the wonderful service she has given to this country over
    these many years.
        [Applause.]
        Senator Dorgan. I will at the next hearing introduce Sara
    Garland who is succeeding Patricia Zell in this role.
        In the meantime, let me thank you, Mr. Chairman, for
    holding this hearing. Let me welcome the Governor and the two
    members of Congress. I think that our Senators, the two
    Senators from Hawaii, both of whom serve on this committee,
    have done an extraordinary job in laying out a process here
    that I think is reasonable and prudent and which will enable
    three levels of government here to develop a working
    relationship with one another that will be premised upon the
    consensus that will have to be built even after we pass this
    legislation, if we pass the legislation.
        I might say that I am inclined to be supportive of it. I
    think that this is a really important issue and an interesting
    issue. I will say, as the chairman did, that Senator Inouye,
    for whom this is an extraordinarily important issue, is not
    able to be with us today due to an illness, but I know Senator
    Akaka will ably represent him and the delegation today.
        I thank Congressman Case and also Congressman Faleomavaega
    for being with us. I have had the opportunity to visit with the
    chair of the Board of Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian
    Affairs and others, and learned that through this bill the
    Native Hawaiian people are asking for a status under Federal
    law that is equal to that of America's other native peoples,
    American Indians and Alaska Natives.
        This is just a really important issue where I am very
    pleased, Mr. Chairman, that you have called a hearing on this
    as early as we have. I look forward to hearing all of the
    witnesses.
        Let me ask that my full statement be made a part of the
    record, and also that the opening statement of Senator Inouye
    be made a part of the record.
        The Chairman. Without objection.
        [Prepared statements of Senators Dorgan and Inouye appear
    in appendix.]
        The Chairman. Senator Akaka.

      STATEMENT OF HON. DANIEL K. AKAKA, U.S. SENATOR FROM HAWAII

        Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I thank
    you very much for holding this hearing. Mr. Chairman, I want
    you to know that I am joining you on this committee and will be
    working with you with much aloha coming from Hawaii, and tell
    you that I really appreciate what you are doing for Hawaii and
    the people of Hawaii today by having this hearing.
        As you know, this is the fourth Congress in which this
    committee is considering this legislation. Time has really
    flown. Our committee favorably reported the bill in the 106th
    Congress, the 107th, and 108th and here we are now in the 109th
    Congress. I am hopeful and confident that our colleagues on
    this committee will once again support our efforts to extend
    the Federal policy of self-governance and self-determination to
    Native Hawaiians.
        Mr. Chairman, I want to begin by thanking Hawaii's Governor
    Linda Lingle for joining us this morning. Since her election in
    2002, I have worked closely with Governor Lingle and appreciate
    all that she has done in working to gain the support of the
    Bush administration for the enactment of this bill. Governor
    Lingle's support demonstrates an important facet of this bill,
    the fact that for the people of Hawaii addressing the condition
    of Hawaii's indigenous peoples, Native Hawaiians, is a non-
    partisan priority.
        Anyone who has lived in Hawaii has experienced the aloha
    spirit, a special attitude which exudes happiness and
    generosity toward all. The aloha spirit for which the people of
    Hawaii is known is grounded in the culture and tradition of
    Hawaii's indigenous peoples. For that reason, Hawaii's
    citizens, whether or not they are Native Hawaiian, appreciate
    and support efforts to preserve the culture and tradition of
    Native Hawaiians. A large majority of Hawaii's residents
    support our efforts to enact this bill because it is the right
    thing to do for Native Hawaiians and for the people of Hawaii.
        The Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act does
    three things. It establishes the Office of Native Hawaiian
    Relations in the Department of the Interior to serve as a
    liaison between Native Hawaiians and the United States. It
    establishes a Native Hawaiian Interagency Coordinating Group to
    be composed of Federal officials from agencies which administer
    Native Hawaiian programs. Both of these provisions are intended
    to increase coordination between the Native Hawaiians and the
    Federal Government. Finally, the bill provides a process of
    reorganization of the Native Hawaiian governing entity.
        I am very proud of the fact that while the bill provides
    structure to the process, it also provides the Native Hawaiian
    community with the flexibility to truly reorganize the
    governing entity.
        Mr. Chairman, as you may recall, in 1993 we enacted
    legislation I drafted which is referred to as the Apology
    Resolution. The resolution apologized for the actions of U.S.
    agents in the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii. The
    resolution also addressed a process of reconciliation between
    Native Hawaiians and the United States. The process of
    reconciliation involves an incremental dialog between Native
    Hawaiians and the United States to discuss many of the
    longstanding issues resulting from the overthrow of the Kingdom
    of Hawaii.
        My bill, Mr. Chairman, provides the structure for this
    process of reconciliation. The bill provides that following
    Federal recognition of the Native Hawaiian governing entity,
    the Federal and State Governments and the Native Hawaiian
    government will begin negotiations to address matters such as
    the transfer of lands, natural resources and other assets; the
    exercise of governmental authority over such lands and
    resources; the exercise of civil and criminal jurisdiction; and
    the exercise of governmental powers and authorities by the
    Native Hawaiian government. This, for me, Mr. Chairman, will be
    a large step in the process of reconciliation.
        For too long, the people of Hawaii have lacked a structured
    process to deal with these issues. This bill holds the promise
    for all of us in Hawaii to come to terms with Hawaii's unique
    and often painful history, to rectify inequities, and to move
    on as a State. It is for this reason that I have worked so hard
    over the past six years to enact this measure. I believe this
    bill is critical for Native Hawaiians who seek greater autonomy
    over the use of their lands and natural resources and programs
    and services.
        I also believe that this measure is just as important for
    non-Native Hawaiians as it provides us with a process to
    finally, after 112 years, begin to resolve the longstanding
    issues which resulted from what is considered by many to be the
    most poignant experiences in Hawaii's history, and that is the
    overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii.
        Our Native brothers and sisters in Alaska and in Indian
    country understand our efforts. I want to thank them. I really
    want to thank them for their unending support over the years.
    They have always, always been willing to work with us to ensure
    that we benefit from the lessons they have learned. We are
    gaining for it. For this generosity, we will always be indebted
    to them.
        I ask each of my colleagues here to stand with us as we
    work to extend the Federal policy of self-governance and self-
    determination to Hawaii's indigenous peoples, an effort for
    those in Hawaii that erases the boundaries between political
    parties and differences.
        Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for this opportunity to
    make my statement.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much, Senator Akaka.
        We are always pleased to have our colleagues from the other
    side of the Capitol here to join us to make brief statements.
    We are very glad to see you. Honorable Faleomavaega, we are
    glad to see you again, and Congressman Case. Whoever wishes to
    go first, please proceed.

       STATEMENT OF HON. ED CASE, U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM HAWAII

        Mr. Case. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Senator Dorgan, Senator
    Akaka, members of the committee. Good morning and aloha.
        I appreciate the opportunity to appear before you, as the
    proud representative of the congressional district with the
    most Native Hawaiians of any district in our country, in
    unqualified support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government
    Reorganization Act, as well as its House counterpart, H.R. 309,
    introduced by me and my colleagues Mr. Abercrombie, Mr.
    Faleomavaega, and others.
        You have my written testimony, so allow me to make five
    brief points.
        First, please have no doubt that this is the most important
    single piece of legislation affecting both Native Hawaiians and
    all of our Hawaii to come before Congress since 1959.
        Second, that is because Federal recognition represents the
    long overdue, long-missing framework for Native Hawaiians to
    affirm and continue their longstanding relationship with the
    United States and achieve permanent and sustainable autonomy as
    exists for other indigenous peoples of our country.
        Third, this must be accomplished not only to assure the
    survival and prosperity of the Native Hawaiian people and
    culture wherever they may live, but because Native Hawaiians
    are the very core of my Hawaii, of our Hawaii itself. For that
    reason, Federal recognition is indispensable not only for
    Native Hawaiians, but for all of us in Hawaii.
        Fourth, we in Hawaii and beyond, with the other indigenous
    peoples of our country, have a broad-based consensus that this
    is what we want and need to do and must do.
        Fifth, this bill provides each and all of the United States
    and Native Hawaiians with a reasonable structure under which to
    negotiate the details that you, Mr. Chair, referred to, and
    affirm Federal recognition so that specific concerns can and, I
    have great confidence, ultimately will,be worked out.
        Mr. Chair and members, we ask you to let this bill go, to
    embrace it as we have, to do what is right and just and
    necessary for all of us.
        Mahalo.
        [Prepared statement of Representative Case appears in
    appendix.]
        The Chairman. Thank you very much, Congressman Case.

      STATEMENT OF HON. ENI F.H. FALEOMAVAEGA, U.S. DELEGATE FROM
                             AMERICAN SAMOA

        Mr. Faleomavaega. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Senator Dorgan,
    Senator Akaka, distinguished members of the committee.
        I think the last time, Mr. Chairman, we were at a hearing
    we held on Molokai some years ago with Senator Inouye. It is
    always good to know that now of your capacity as chairman of
    this important committee. I certainly want to express my
    deepest appreciation for your initiative and leadership in
    calling this hearing this morning.
        The Chairman. Thank you.
        Mr. Faleomavaega. Mr. Chairman, as an original cosponsor of
    H.R. 309, the companion bill to S. 147, I want to state my
    absolute support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government
    Reorganization Act of 2005, expressing the policy of the United
    States regarding the United States' relationship with Native
    Hawaiians and providing a process for the recognition by the
    United States of the Native Hawaiian governing entity.
        I would be remiss if I do not express my appreciation to
    the Senior Senator from Hawaii, Senator Inouye, and of course
    Senator Akaka, Congressman Abercrombie, and Congressman Case,
    members of the Hawaii congressional delegation. I am very happy
    also to see the Governor, Linda Lingle, here with us, and my
    good sister Haunani Apoliona as chairman of the Office of
    Hawaiian Affairs.
        Mr. Chairman, this bill goes to the very heart of our
    responsibility to protect the indigenous people who inhabit
    what is now the United States. As relative newcomers to this
    land where we have established this great Nation, we accepted
    responsibility for the care and protection of those who lived
    here before we arrived in the new world. The seriousness of
    this responsibility is borne out in the countless laws that
    Congress has enacted over the years for the benefit of Native
    Americans and the volumes of works addressing Indian law, the
    Supreme Court cases addressing native issues, and even now at
    the recent opening here in our Nation's Capital of the National
    Museum of the American Indian.
        Some have expressed concern that we should not legislate
    for Native Hawaiians because they are not American Indians. In
    my readings, Mr. Chairman, of the U.S. Supreme Court Chief
    Justice John Marshall, pretty well defined the term ``Indian''
    to include all of the original inhabitants or natives who
    occupied America when it was allegedly discovered by the great
    nations of Europe. Just as Marshall further defined ``tribe''
    to mean a people distinct from others, a distinct community.
        As an example, Alaska Natives are proof of the broad
    definition allowing indigenous groups to be recognized, even
    those who are culturally and genealogically distinct from the
    narrow conception of American Indian or tribe.
        I submit, Mr. Chairman, I honestly believe the Native
    Hawaiians also meet this definition. They are indigenous,
    aboriginal people living within what are now the borders of the
    United States. Native Hawaiians are estimated to have arrived
    on the Hawaiian Islands as early as 300 A.D., long before the
    new world was allegedly, again Mr. Chairman, discovered by
    Christopher Columbus.
        As you are well aware, Mr. Chairman, Native Hawaiians are
    also collectively categorized by anthropologists and scientists
    as Polynesians. I might also note, Mr. Chairman, that the
    famous British explorer Captain James Cook did not discover
    many of the Pacific Islands settled by Polynesians, primarily
    because he was accompanied by a Polynesian Tahitian chief and
    navigator by the name of Tupai'a, and told Captain Cook the
    locations of these islands thousands of miles apart. What was
    surprising to Captain Cook was the similarities of the culture
    and the people, the language very closely related, whether they
    be the Maoris in New Zealand or the Tongans or the Samoans or
    the Tahitians. Hawaiians were the same people. Cook later
    described it as the largest nation on earth, from Hawaii to New
    Zealand and as far east as Rapanui or Easter Island.
        Time will not permit me to discuss the origins of the
    Polynesian people, Mr. Chairman, but suffice it to say, Mr.
    Chairman, that the blood that flows in the veins of that good
    gentleman, Senator Akaka, is the same blood that flows in my
    veins.
        History has not been kind to my Native Hawaiian cousins for
    the past 110 years or so. But years before that, for almost
    2,000 years, there were constant rivalries and wars among the
    ruling chiefs of these islands. It was not until the 1750's, as
    it was prophesied, that a great warrior chief that would be
    known as the killer of chiefs, and that a fleet of 900 war
    canoes of some 20,000 warriors, was able to conquer the other
    chiefs and united the islands under one rule. This famous
    chief, of course, was Kamehameha. Kamehameha ruled the Hawaiian
    Kingdom for almost 20 years, and started a ruling dynasty that
    almost lasted 100 years. To this day, no other name is revered
    more by the Native Hawaiians than their King Kamehameha.
        Mr. Chairman, when most people think of Hawaii, they think
    of honeymoons, grass huts, and tropical paradise, and think
    that natives still live in grass huts. Few are aware of the
    proud and painful history of some 300,000 Native Hawaiian
    people. Too few are aware of Hawaii as an independent sovereign
    country, a country that was illegally overthrown in 1893 by a
    U.S. minister to Hawaii using U.S. Marines to support the
    agenda of a small group of U.S. businessmen.
        Mr. Chairman, I know the time is running. I just want to
    state also, some of my colleagues have suggested at this time
    to move on because Native Hawaiians have been absorbed into the
    larger U.S. culture and no longer need special consideration.
    The evidence suggests the contrary, Mr. Chairman. One look at
    the demographic profile of the Native Hawaiian community will
    reveal that Native Hawaiians are still suffering today from the
    loss of their lands and the damage to their traditional ways of
    life. The Native Hawaiian population is clearly suffering from
    poor health, poor living conditions, poor education, poor
    social conditions at a far higher rate than in the general
    population.
        Native Hawaiians lag far behind the general population of
    Hawaii in virtually every category of well-being, and are
    disproportionately represented in nearly every negative
    category.
        Mr. Chairman, one point I would like to emphasize is that
    the passage of this bill will involve no significant costs to
    the Federal Government. In fact, there is a specific provision
    in the proposed bill that excludes any funding that will go
    directly to the Bureau of Indian Affairs does not go into any
    consideration to be given for the needs of Native Hawaiians.
    The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the outlays to
    open the Office of Hawaiian Relations within the Department of
    the Interior would cost only about $500,000.
        We have an opportunity here, Mr. Chairman, to right a
    longstanding injustice that has been perpetuated on the Native
    Hawaiian people. We have a duty to protect this group of
    indigenous people who have suffered terribly as a result of
    their relationship with the United States. The solution offered
    in this bill is comprehensive and addresses the needs of the
    Native Hawaiian community. This bill will restore a measure of
    well-deserved autonomy to the Native Hawaiian people and
    provide a foundation for the reconciliation process.
        Mr. Chairman, I spent many years in Hawaii, and my
    affection for the Hawaiian people is well known. Despite all
    adversity, the Native Hawaiian culture remains rich and alive.
    The spirit of Aloha that emanates from these people is what
    makes the State of Hawaii very unique. The Native Hawaiian
    people have waited patiently for the day when we here in
    Congress would consider their case and do the right thing.
        I submit that today is that day. The right thing is for us
    to pass the Native Hawaiian Reorganization Act of 2005 and to
    ensure the protection and the perpetuation of these magnificent
    people.
        Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much.
        I thank our colleagues for coming over and joining us
    today. Are there any questions?
        Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, I do not have any questions.
    I thought both of you did an excellent job in laying out your
    positions and being supportive of the legislation. Thank you
    very much.
        The Chairman. Thank you.
        Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I want to
    say thank you to our delegation. As was reported here, Senator
    Inouye is not able to be here. And also, Congressman
    Abercrombie is not able to be here because of the weather. I
    wanted you to know that the delegation fully supports this
    bill. I want to thank our chairman for all he has done this
    far. I want to thank our Ranking Member, Byron Dorgan, for his
    support as well.
        Thank you very much.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming.
        Our next witness is Linda Lingle, who is the Governor of
    the State of Hawaii. Welcome, Governor, thank you for being
    with us this morning. Welcome Governor, please proceed.

        STATEMENT OF HON. LINDA LINGLE, GOVERNOR, FROM HAWAII,
             ACCOMPANIED BY MARK BENNETT, ATTORNEY GENERAL

        Ms. Lingle. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, Vice Chairman
    Dorgan, and Senator Akaka.
        I am here today on behalf of the people of the State of
    Hawaii. I want to tell you that we are grateful and humbled
    that in the press of business that is facing this committee and
    this U.S. Senate, that you would set time aside to hear a bill
    that is critically important to the people in our State.
        Mr. Chairman, because I know you are a person who likes to
    get to the heart of things quickly, let me say what I believe
    this bill is about at its essence. This bill is simply about
    equality and equal treatment under the law.
        There are three groups of indigenous people in America. Two
    of the groups have been recognized by the American Government,
    and one has not. The failure to pass this bill would continue
    the discrimination that exists against the Native Hawaiian
    peoples not being included in the recognition that the other
    two Native groups have.
        I think the bill does four things that are important to the
    Native Hawaiian people and to the State of Hawaii. First of
    all, the bill would promote self-sufficiency for Native
    Hawaiian people, and bring about greater economic opportunity
    for them. Native Hawaiians continue to rely too heavily on
    State and Federal programs and by having a Native Hawaiian
    governing entity, it would allow them to move forward with
    independence.
        It would also provide greater accountability to this U.S.
    Senate and to the State of Hawaii for the Government programs
    that do exist for Native Hawaiians. It would promote this
    accountability because you would have all Government programs
    that benefit Native Hawaiians now coming under one entity,
    instead of being dispersed the way they are now. There have
    been over 150 pieces of legislation of benefit to Native
    Hawaiians. I believe there should be and needs to be greater
    accountability for these programs and more effective use of the
    programs. I believe the creation of this entity would help to
    bring about that accountability and efficiency.
        I also believe that S. 147 is our best opportunity to
    preserve the Native Hawaiian culture, which is the foundation
    of our being in Hawaii. It is the essence of who we are as a
    people and a State. It is also an economic imperative to our
    State because our State's largest industry, the tourist
    industry, is really dependent on the preservation of the Native
    Hawaiian culture.
        Finally, S. 147 would protect the existing programs against
    the legal attacks that have become constant against programs
    that benefit Native Hawaiians. I want to focus on one of them
    in particular that has been under attack and remains under
    attack in the court system. That is a program that was set up
    by this U.S. Senate in 1920. In 1920, this U.S. Senate set
    aside 200,000 acres of land to benefit Native Hawaiians. It was
    the right of the Senate to do that and it was the right thing
    for the Senate to do. But today, that program is being
    challenged in court and S. 147 would allow us to protect the
    Hawaiian Homes Program as well as the other programs that
    benefit Native Hawaiians.
        I do want to mention that it has been a long road on this
    bill, as has been outlined by Senator Akaka and others, but I
    believe the time has been well spent because I believe the bill
    today is something that a legal challenge can meet and any
    social concern can meet any objection that may have arisen in
    the past.
        I want to make reference to one part of the bill that is
    different than the part I have testified on in the past. That
    was the inclusion of a provision that says that the State
    legislature, the State of Hawaii, the U.S. Congress, and the
    new governing entity would have to come together if there were
    going to be changes in civil or criminal jurisdiction, land
    use, taxation, zoning, or other issues that would affect the
    entity. So for those who were fearful that this would bring
    about some of the same issues that have arisen with the
    American Indians, I believe the change in the legislation has
    finally and completely addressed that issue.
        Mr. Chairman, I see this bill as a unifying force for my
    State. Every elected official in the State of Hawaii supports
    this bill, both Republican and Democrat. The majority of people
    of every ethnic group support this bill. The business community
    supports this bill, including the State's two major banks. I
    believe it is because they see this as a positive force for the
    future strength of our economy and our social fabric.
        Again, I want to thank you for scheduling this hearing, for
    keeping an open mind on a subject that is very important to us.
    I really want to thank the committee members for sitting today,
    listening to the testimony, and for giving us the courtesy of
    hearing a bill that may not be important at the national level,
    but is to the people in our State.
        Thank you very much, Senator.
        [Statement of Governor Lingle appears in appendix.]
        The Chairman. Thank you very much, Governor Lingle. And
    thank you for your steadfast leadership and commitment to
    Native Hawaiians. We are very pleased that you could appear
    here today.
        Picking up on a couple of your comments that you just made,
    under this proposal, if Native Hawaiians wanted to establish a
    gaming operation, that would require the agreement of the State
    legislature and Congress, as well as the Native Hawaiians
    themselves?
        Ms. Lingle. I would ask the lawyers in the room. My
    attorney general is here and can answer that question. I will
    ask him to do that. I will state for you clearly from a policy
    point of view, Senator, our entire congressional delegation
    opposes any legalized gambling in our State. We are one of two
    States with no form of legalized gambling. I oppose it. I will
    let the legal question be answered.
        The Chairman. Thank you. My point is that there are a lot
    of States where the legislatures have opposed gaming
    operations, and they have been set up. But go ahead.
        Ms. Lingle. This is Attorney General Mark Bennett.
        The Chairman. Go ahead, sir.
        Mr. Bennett. Senator, the bill itself says that there ought
    to be and shall be no gambling pursuant to this bill. In
    addition, it would certainly require at the very least an act
    of Congress to allow gambling if this occurred. But we believe
    that the bill by itself provides no gambling, but there would
    be no possibility of that without a further act of the
    Congress.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much.
        Governor, after getting into this issue a little more, it
    seems to me that your sense of urgency is dictated by some of
    the constitutional challenges that have been brought against
    programs that are administered by the State of Hawaii. What
    other programs would be in danger here if S. 147 were not
    enacted?
        Ms. Lingle. The most critical program right now is one that
    is pending in the Ninth Circuit. It involves the Department of
    Hawaiian Homelands. There are 200,000 acres of land that are
    home to 7,000 families, 28,000 people on those lands. If there
    was a successful legal challenge in my State, it would create
    social disruption because people would no longer have the right
    to those lands. So that is, from my perspective, right now the
    most pressing issue.
        If we are able to get S. 147 adopted, we will use this as a
    clear basis for our argument that this is not a racial
    preference, but these lands were set aside because there is a
    trust, a political relationship between the Native Hawaiian
    people and the American Government.
        The Chairman. Has there already been court decisions which
    have impacted the status of Native Hawaiians?
        Mr. Bennett. There was a lawsuit challenging Native
    Hawaiian programs that was dismissed, I would say, on technical
    grounds in the District Court, but that is up on appeal right
    now in the Ninth Circuit. While we believe that we can defend
    these lawsuits on the current state of affairs, if this bill
    were to pass, we believe that this would provide a clear
    mandate once and for all for the dismissal of these lawsuits.
    We certainly are greatly concerned that without this bill at
    some point, these lawsuits, either the current one or a future
    one, may succeed in invalidating all programs that benefit
    Native Hawaiians.
        The Chairman. Governor Lingle, do you have an opinion on
    how well, since the time of statehood, the State of Hawaii has
    managed the ceded land trust for the benefit of Native
    Hawaiians?
        Ms. Lingle. I think recently we are doing an outstanding
    job.
        The Chairman. Since you were inaugurated? [Laughter.]
        Ms. Lingle. I think, sir, with 85 years passing since the
    Hawaiian Homes Trust was set up, we could have done a much
    better job. We have an accelerated program that we have put
    forward to put thousands of additional families onto this land.
    We think, again, it has been, as many other things that relate
    to Native Hawaiians and many other programs, it has simply been
    too long in coming. It is the right thing to do to move forward
    in a much faster pace. So I think we are on the right track
    now, and this will help to keep us there.
        The Chairman. I thank you. Given the obvious urgency of
    this legislation, I think you deserve a rapid decision by the
    Congress of the United States on this issue. I would intend to
    hold a vote very soon in the committee so that we can move this
    legislation forward.
        Senator Dorgan.
        Senator Dorgan. Governor, thank you for your testimony.
        We had asked the Administration to be present to testify
    today and they chose not to. Have you had any conversations
    with anyone in the Administration about whether they are
    intending to support or will support this legislation?
        Ms. Lingle. I have had many conversations with people in
    the Administration who are all very focused on this issue. They
    are briefed on it, and they are very anxious for the U.S.
    Senate and the U.S. House to take action on S. 147.
        Senator Dorgan. Being focused and briefed is admirable, if
    that is what they are, but I am asking whether they will be
    supportive or be opposing the legislation. Again, we had asked
    for representatives of the Administration to testify. I am not
    sure why they elected not to at the moment, but do you have any
    sense of whether their weighing on this will be in support of
    the legislation or in opposition?
        Ms. Lingle. Senator, I am optimistic that if the Senate
    passes this and the House passes it, that they would be
    supportive. I am optimistic of that.
        Senator Dorgan. All right. Well, often what we do is
    attempt to ask the Administration their position before we take
    action. It is not dispositive in terms of what we do, but I
    would hope as well if we go through this process not hearing
    from them, that at the end of the day if we have passed this
    legislation, they would be supportive. But I would also
    encourage you and others to continue to see if we could enlist
    their participation and evaluation concurrent with the
    consideration by Congress so that we could get their views on
    it. I think that would be helpful.
        Ms. Lingle. Senator, you have my word that I will continue
    to encourage them to be supportive of S. 147. I might say, I
    wish my legislature at home was concerned about what I thought
    about measures they were moving forward. This is something new
    to me. [Laughter.]
        I really am optimistic that if this can get through, that
    they will be supportive.
        Senator Dorgan. It is not new here to ask the
    Administration to share their views with this committee. That
    is a rather time-honored tradition.
        Let me again thank you for your testimony. You produced
    very strong testimony, as I expected. My colleagues, Senator
    Inouye and Senator Akaka, both assured us that you would be
    providing some very compelling testimony. I think your presence
    here today is very, very helpful to this committee. Your
    delegation, from the Governor and the State legislature, and
    virtually all of the official representatives of Hawaii speak
    with one voice on these issues. We appreciate very much your
    leadership, Governor.
        Ms. Lingle. Thank you, Senator.
        The Chairman. Senator Akaka.
        Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
        I want to take the time to thank the people from Hawaii who
    are here and who have such a deep interest in this bill and the
    passage of this bill. I want to thank all of you for being
    here. There are some organizations here as well. I want to
    particularly thank the Governor for your efforts on this bill,
    and in particular to thank Mark Bennett, the attorney general,
    as well as Micah Kane, for their work on this bill. I really
    appreciate their work. They work with my staff and our staffs
    as well on this bill.
        This has happened because I believe this is so critical for
    the people of Hawaii. When my colleagues ask me about the
    importance of this bill, I explain my views to them as a Native
    Hawaiian. I am hoping that you, Governor, as a non-Native
    Hawaiian, who supports the bill as much as I do, can provide
    some insight as to why non-Native Hawaiian residents in Hawaii
    support this bill.
        Ms. Lingle. Senator, I think again at its essence it is
    because it is the right thing to do and because the people in
    our State are probably a lot like me. Many of us came from
    other places. Maybe we came from the mainland United States or
    we came from the Philippines or we came from China or Vietnam
    or other places. We were taken in, literally taken in as a part
    of the family, the 'ohana, by the Hawaiian people. For us, this
    is a privilege to come here to talk about this issue with
    people who maybe do not understand how accepted we have been.
        For someone like myself to come into the State, and as you
    know I lived on a very small island for many years, that is, as
    a percentage of its population, besides Niihau which people
    cannot just go to, it is the most Native Hawaiian Island. It
    was my introduction to the people and the State of Hawaii. It
    has made me who I am today. I think everyone who is non-
    Hawaiian in our State would say that they are the person they
    are because of the culture of our State. It is so different, so
    unique, and that culture is based on the culture of the Native
    Hawaiian people. It is just such a privilege to be here to be
    able to share how important this is to our State. It is not
    just important to Native Hawaiians. It is important to who we
    are as a people, as a society. As I said, this is a unifying
    force for us, to finally be able to express gratitude this way
    to the Native Hawaiian people for what they have given to us,
    and I believe, what they have given to the country and to the
    world.
        Senator Akaka. I thank you very much for your support of
    this bill, Governor.
        Ms. Lingle. Thank you, Senator.
        Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much.
        Thank you, Governor. Thank you for coming this long way. I
    am sorry that we have not scheduled a hearing on this important
    issue in Hawaii, but maybe we can consider that.
        Ms. Lingle. We look forward to hosting you, Senator.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much, Governor.
        I thank the attorney general also for being here. Thank
    you, sir.
        Our next panel is, maybe Senator Akaka can pronounce.
        Senator Akaka. Yes; Haunani Apoliona.
        The Chairman. She is the chairperson of the Board of
    Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs; Tex Hall,
    president, National Congress of American Indians; and Jade
    Danner, director, Government Affairs and Community
    Consultation, Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement.
        Ms. Apoliona, would you correct my pronunciation again,
    please?
        Ms. Apoliona. It is Apoliona.
        The Chairman. Apoliona. Thank you very much. I apologize
    for the mispronunciation. Thank you very much. We will begin
    with you. Thank you for coming.

    STATEMENT OF HAUNANI APOLIONA, CHAIRPERSON, BOARD OF TRUSTEES,
        OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS, ACCOMPANIED BY MICAH KANE,
                  CHAIRMAN, HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION

        Ms. Apoliona. [Greeting and song in native tongue.]
        The Chairman. I am sure you are going to explain to me what
    that was all about. [Laughter.]
        Ms. Apoliona. Thank you, Senator. The translations lay
    before you. In our manner of welcoming and greeting, we would
    like to share a lei with you as I begin my testimony.
        The Chairman. We are going to have to have you here more
    often. [Laughter.]
        Please proceed.
        Ms. Apoliona. [Statement in native tongue.] To the leaders
    and members of this Committee on Indian Affairs of the U.S.
    Congress, greetings, my name is Haunani Apoliona. I am
    chairperson of the Board of Trustees for the Office of Hawaiian
    Affairs, a body corporate created by the Hawaii State
    constitution and statute. I would like to take 1 moment, Mr.
    Chairman and members, to introduce other trustees of the Office
    of Hawaiian Affairs who have traveled this long way. As I
    introduce them, I would ask them to rise: Trustee Rowena Akana,
    Trustee Dante Carpenter, Trustee Boyd Mossman, Trustee Oswald
    Stender, and Trustee John Waihe'e, IV.
        The Chairman. You are welcome here today. Thank you.
        Ms. Apoliona. I would also, Mr. Chairman, like to introduce
    sitting to my left, Antoinette Lee, president of the
    Association of Hawaiian Civic Clubs, 51 clubs located
    throughout Hawaii and this Nation, the oldest community-based
    grassroots, non-government Native Hawaiian organization founded
    in 1918 by Delegate to Congress Jonah Kuhio Kalanianaole. Ms.
    Lee hopes to provide a few comments following my testimony, and
    she has provided her full text to the committee.
        The Chairman. Welcome.
        Ms. Apoliona. The mission of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs
    is to protect and assist Native Hawaiian people and to protect
    our environmental and other resources, and by doing so to
    perpetuate our threatened traditional culture. Perhaps most
    importantly, OHA has worked to bring meaningful self-government
    to the Native Hawaiian people who are the only indigenous group
    in the United States to whom Congress has not fully afforded
    that fundamental right.
        I testify today in support of enactment of S. 147. There
    are three indigenous populations within the United States:
    American Indians in the lower 48 States; Eskimos, Aleuts, and
    other Native groups in Alaska; and Native Hawaiians. The
    governing entities of American Indians and Alaska Native have
    both been recognized by Congress. This recognition extends to
    indigenous people the ability to govern their own internal
    affairs in a manner appropriate to their cultures and
    traditions.
        Congress acted in 1934 by passing the Indian Reorganization
    Act, and in 1971 by passing the Alaska Native Claims Settlement
    Act. In this legislation, S. 147, as Hawaiians, we seek only
    what long has been granted this Nation's other indigenous
    peoples.
        In my 20-page written testimony, which with your permission
    I ask be included in full in the record of this proceeding.
        The Chairman. Without objection.
        Ms. Apoliona. I have provided detailed information about
    the history of the Kingdom of Hawaii, about the United States'
    role in the forcible overthrow of our Native government; about
    our need for a reorganized governmental entity to allow us a
    measure of self-government, and about the need for Federal
    legislation authorizing our reorganization. Since distinguished
    members of our congressional delegation and of course our
    distinguished Governor already have spoken to these points, I
    wish to use my time this morning to address questions that have
    been raised to us over the last several weeks.
        Let me first address the impact of S. 147 on the Bureau of
    Indian Affairs' budget. Regarding the impact of the enactment
    of S. 147 would have on the Bureau of Indian Affairs' budget, I
    note that we, as Native Hawaiians, have not asked for, and S.
    147 does not provide, the Native Hawaiian governing entity with
    access to the Federal funding set-aside for American Indian
    tribes.
        In fact, S. 147 is specifically structured to prevent that
    from occurring. We think section 7 and 9 of the bill make clear
    that enactment of S. 147 will not have an impact on the
    Bureau's budget or on money generally appropriated for Indian
    tribes. We reiterate and we stand by our commitment not to
    adversely impact our American Indian 'ohana with this
    legislation.
        Now, let me address the Federal appropriations currently
    provided to Native Hawaiians. Native Hawaiians already receive
    Federal funding of our own through various non-BIA programs for
    such matters as Native Hawaiian health, education, housing,
    economic development, historic preservation, culture and elder
    and vocational services.
        Federal recognition will not make Native Hawaiians eligible
    for the Federal programs and services established for our
    Indian and Alaska Native 'ohana. Through Federal recognition,
    we are not members of tribes of the lower 48 States, nor
    members of corporations, tribes, or villages of Alaska. We are
    Native Hawaiians.
        For further clarity on the matter of Federal
    appropriations, the Congressional Budget Office, which studied
    an earlier nearly identical version of S. 147 in the 108th
    Congress, estimated that, quote, ``implementing H.R. 4282 would
    cost nearly $1 million annually in fiscal years 2005-07.''
        The Chairman. Ma'am, you are going to have to summarize
    some of your testimony. We have three additional witnesses and
    then questions from the members of the panel. I appreciate it,
    but you are going to have to summarize your testimony. We
    usually give 5 minutes. We will give you a lot longer.
        Ms. Apoliona. S. 147 does not allow gaming. It does not
    provide for that in the language of the bill. And as was stated
    earlier, the State of Hawaii is one of two States, the other
    being Utah, that does not allow gaming or gambling.
        It is time to restore the Native Hawaiian self-governing
    status, and we ask that this committee expeditiously move this
    legislation to the floor of the Senate. Native Hawaiians are
    hopeful that this Congress will enact S. 147, and thereby take
    another step toward reconciliation.
        I appear before you as the elected trustee of the Office of
    Hawaiian Affairs, as one of nine duly elected by all citizens
    of Hawaii to represent the interests of the Hawaiian people. I
    am Native Hawaiian, and I thank you for your time.
        [Prepared statement of Ms. Apoliona appears in appendix.]
        The Chairman. Thank you very much.
        Tex Hall, welcome back before the committee.

    STATEMENT OF TEX HALL, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL CONGRESS OF AMERICAN
        INDIANS, ACCOMPANIED BY JULIE KITKA, PRESIDENT, ALASKA
                         FEDERATION OF NATIVES

        Mr. Hall. [Greeting in native tongue.] Aloha, and good
    morning to Chairman McCain, Vice Chairman Dorgan, Senator
    Akaka, my good friend Senator Inouye, and other members of the
    committee.
        I am Tex Hall, president of the National Congress of
    American Indians. I am joined by Julie Kitka, the president of
    the Alaska Federation of Natives.
        The Chairman. Welcome.
        Mr. Hall. As the committee is aware, NCAI is the largest
    coalition of tribal governments in the United States, defending
    tribal government treaty rights and the Federal trust
    responsibility since 1944. So on behalf of NCAI and the Alaska
    Federation of Natives, we join in strong support of S. 147, the
    Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act.
        NCAI first offered testimony in support of Native Hawaiian
    sovereignty and self-determination in 2000, a position that has
    not been changed in our recent resolutions, as attached, and we
    would like to include those for the record, Mr. Chairman.
        The Chairman. Thank you.
        [Referenced documents appear in appendix.]
        Mr. Hall. Native Hawaiians are no different than any of our
    other Nation's indigenous groups. Native Hawaiians lived on the
    land and governed their own affairs for thousands of years
    before European contact. For many years, the United States and
    nations all over the world recognized the Government of Native
    Hawaiians as a sovereign political entity and signed treaties
    with them.
        Since the illegitimate overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom,
    Native Hawaiians have suffered more than a century of
    injustice, including the neglect and abuse of their
    entitlements and the violation of their basic civil rights.
        So on behalf of NCAI's member tribes, I am here today to
    announce that NCAI believes that the Federal Government must
    correct this injustice and formally recognize the inherent
    right of Native Hawaiians to self-governance.
        Passage of this bill is also timely because since the U.S.
    Supreme Court decided the Rice case in 2000, there has been a
    flood of non-natives who run for office positions in the Office
    of Hawaiian Affairs, and there are similar lawsuits challenging
    education, housing, land and other programs intended to benefit
    Native Hawaiians.
        So before I conclude my testimony, if also I could briefly
    address one specific issue concerning the bill. When the bill
    was first introduced in 2000, many people questioned the
    possible effect that Federal recognition of Native Hawaiian
    Government could have on funding for Indian programs. NCAI
    points out that Senator Inouye has promised that Native
    Hawaiian programs will never be funded at the expense of Indian
    programs, and that has always been the case.
        Section 9 of this bill provides that any appropriations for
    Native Hawaiians are to be funded independently of the Bureau
    of Indian Affairs. NCAI would request that the committee add
    clarifying language to include not just BIA appropriations, but
    also Indian Health Service and other appropriations for
    services provided to Indians by the United States.
        On a personal note, I had a chance and honor to make
    several visits to many of my friends in the room here today,
    and have developed a strong friendship and relationship with
    the Native Hawaiian people. In North Dakota, if you wear a
    cowboy hat and you are not a real cowboy, they say that you are
    all hat and no cattle. [Laughter.]
        I have actually met real Native Hawaiians and real Native
    Hawaiian cowboys. So I am going to be asked to participate in a
    real Native Hawaiian rodeo coming up real soon, and I look
    forward to not losing so much over there, because I will
    probably be called ``all hat and no cattle'' if I lose.
    [Laughter.]
        So Mr. Chairman, that concludes my testimony, and again, we
    are in strong support of the passage of S. 147.
        [Prepared statement of Mr. Hall appears in appendix.]
        The Chairman. Thank you very much, Tex. I appreciate your
    appearance again before this committee.
        Ms. Danner, welcome.

     STATEMENT OF JADE DANNER, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND
    COMMUNITY CONSULTATION, COUNCIL FOR NATIVE HAWAIIAN ADVANCEMENT

        Ms. Danner. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Aloha, Honorable
    Chairman McCain, Vice Chairman Dorgan, and esteemed members of
    the committee on Indian Affairs. My name is Jade Danner. I am
    the director of Government Affairs and Community Consultation
    for the Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement.
        It is an honor to testify before you here today on this
    important legislation for our communities. I apologize for my
    voice trembling, but this is such an important issue for our
    community. With me today is Tony Sang, who is the chairman of
    the State Council of Hawaiian Homestead Associations. We are
    very lucky to have him as a member of our board of directors.
        The Chairman. Welcome, sir.
        Ms. Danner. Mr. Sang's organization represents 24 homestead
    communities and over 30,000 Native Hawaiian people living on
    Hawaiian Home Lands, communities that were created by the
    passage of the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act in 1920. These
    communities have played a significant role in bringing our
    people back from the very brink of extinction. SCHHA has asked
    me to speak on their behalf today.
        I was born on the Navajo and Hopi Reservations in the
    community of Tuba City, AZ, from your neck of the woods,
    Senator. I have lived 25 years among the Inupiat Eskimos in
    Barrow, AK. I am Native Hawaiian and I now live in Hawaiian
    Home Lands in Waimanalo on Oahu. I have witnessed first-hand
    the power of the transformation that can occur in Native
    communities on the basis of Federal recognition of a self-
    governing entity and self-determination.
        The Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement is a member-
    based non-profit organization aimed at improving access to
    information and resources by the Native Hawaiian community and
    the organizations that serve it. We organize the largest annual
    conference dedicated to Native Hawaiian community development.
        The Governor has made some strong comments. One of the
    things that she commented on was the vital need for our culture
    in the State's economy. CNHA has looked at the economic impact
    of just our programs and what they bring to the State of
    Hawaii. While $59 million goes toward direct benefits to Native
    Hawaiians, it generates $147 million in economic production for
    all of Hawaii's people. So when we build a house on Hawaiian
    Home Lands for Native Hawaiians to live in, those houses are
    contributing jobs to non-Natives and Natives alike, and that is
    an important thing, I think, to note.
        From our consultation with the Native Hawaiian community,
    there is clear consensus about overwhelming support for the
    passage of this bill, and for recognizing a Native Hawaiian
    Government as the vehicle to enhance self-determination for
    Native Hawaiians. Several public laws already authorize
    programming to address Native Hawaiian conditions. Private
    beneficial trusts also contribute to our well-being. We have
    resources, Senators.
        But as the American Indian and Alaska Native experience has
    demonstrated, resources are not enough. They are not enough
    alone. It is vital for our survival as a distinct thread in the
    human fabric that we have autonomy in our internal affairs,
    that we are empowered in meaningful ways to make our own
    solutions and utilize our resources in a way that we see fit.
        The Apology Resolution provides for an accurate account of
    Hawaii's history and its entry into the Union and commits the
    United States to commencing the much-needed process of
    reconciliation. It is a history that I will not belabor here.
    But suffice it to say that our experience and circumstance is
    no different than many other Native American peoples. As a
    result, our current conditions are much the same.
        Despite these adversities, our hope and our faith in the
    American system remains. Like other Native Americans, we
    continue to honor and fulfill our responsibilities as American
    citizens. Many of our sons and daughters have committed their
    whole lives to military service, some rising to the highest
    ranks. I am proud to say that 10 members of the Hawaii State
    Legislature, a significant portion of Governor Lingle's
    administration, including the Lieutenant Governor, and of
    course Senator Akaka, are all Native Hawaiian.
        We understand as Hawaiians that in addition to these
    individual responsibilities as Americans, we have a collective
    responsibility to perpetuate Native Hawaiian culture, language,
    knowledge and traditions. It is this obligation that we need
    this committee and this body's help to fulfill.
        We need self-governance to formulate and implement our own
    solutions and to hold ourselves accountable to those results.
    We need it because we do not exist anywhere else. If we are
    denied self-determination and self-governance in Hawaii, in our
    motherland, we are sure to go the way of so many other Natives
    indigenous to these shores and now extinct. We will be a
    memory, and that will be the saddest story in this great
    Nation's history. We will be lost to the world.
        We do not seek recognition of our Native government in
    order to do gaming, Senators, and we are not interested in
    eating out of the Indian pot. We seek passage of this bill for
    a more basic reason. We need to be at the helm of our own
    future. We want the United States to honor its trust
    relationship to us, and we want to engage fully in the policy
    of self-determination and self-governance.
        We want to honor our obligation to our ancestors, whose
    sole existence was to bring us forward, just as we exist to
    bring future generations of Hawaiians forward. Humbly, we ask
    the members of Congress to pass this legislation because it
    empowers us to hold our own destiny in our own hands. We ask
    that you deal with us in a manner that is fair and just.
        Mahalo for this opportunity to address the committee on
    this important legislation. The Council for Native Hawaiian
    Advancement looks forward to working with the committee on
    passage of this bill and on future efforts towards
    reconciliation with the Native Hawaiian people.
        Thank you.
        [Prepared statement of Ms. Danner appears in appendix.]
        The Chairman. Thank you very much, Ms. Danner.
        What are your views on how well the State of Hawaii has
    carried out its responsibilities of administering the ceded
    lands for the benefits of Native Hawaiians?
        Ms. Danner. I would agree with the Governor's assertion
    that in recent years, maybe the last 10 to 15 years, there has
    been a much better effort toward managing those resources. But
    in truth, that is one of the fundamental reasons I believe that
    we need to control those assets, because we need to be able to
    hold ourselves accountable from within our community, and not
    knocking on the door of the State government who is our
    guardian. They have done a tremendous job in recent years.
        The Chairman. Thank you.
        President Hall, does the majority of Indian country support
    this legislation?
        Mr. Hall. Yes; they do, Mr. Chairman. It was discussed at
    length in our recent resolution which is attached to my
    testimony, but it was unanimously passed at the NCAI annual
    convention, Mr. Chairman, in support.
        The Chairman. Thank you.
        Chairwoman Apoliona, how much money does the Office of
    Hawaiian Affairs currently receive from the State of Hawaii for
    the benefit of Native Hawaiians?
        Ms. Apoliona. From our legislature, we receive
    approximately $2 million a year.
        The Chairman. $2 million a year.
        Ms. Apoliona. And from the revenues of ceded lands, we
    receive approximately $9 million a year.
        The Chairman. Does the airport in Honolulu sit on----
        Ms. Apoliona. Yes; it does, Senator.
        The Chairman. And do you get any revenue from that?
        Ms. Apoliona. At the current time, the Native Hawaiian
    Trust of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs does not receive
    revenues from those ceded lands of the airport, although the
    obligation still remains.
        The Chairman. Why do you think that is?
        Ms. Apoliona. A couple of years ago, there was legislation
    passed here in the U.S. Congress that reinforced the Department
    of Transportation's request that revenues not be paid from the
    airport trust revenues that are derived from the airports in
    Hawaii. However, the obligation still remains for the payment
    of a 20-percent pro-rata share to the Native Hawaiian Trust
    from those lands, from use of those lands.
        The Chairman. But that is not the case?
        Ms. Apoliona. The congressional act prohibits the State of
    Hawaii from paying the pro-rata share from the airport trust
    funds.
        The Chairman. How many people currently qualify as
    homesteaders under the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act?
        Ms. Apoliona. I would like to turn to Mr. Micah Kane.
        Mr. Kane. Chairman McCain, my name is Micah Kane. I am the
    chairman of the Hawaiian Homes Commission. I manage the
    Department of Hawaiian Home Lands which has the trust
    responsibility of all of the lands and residences and people
    who are on our waiting list.
        Currently right now, as Mrs. Danner articulated, we have
    7,400 residential and agricultural lessees that we serve. We
    also currently have about 18,000 individuals who are qualified
    Native Hawaiians who would have the opportunity, should our
    trust present them for home ownership or land stewardship.
        The Chairman. How many people would be eligible as, quote,
    ``Native Hawaiians'' as the bill defines this term, to
    participate in the vote to create the new Native Hawaiian
    entity?
        Ms. Apoliona. There are approximately 400,000 Native
    Hawaiians throughout this country. By choice, they will have to
    make a decision whether they will participate in the process
    for reorganizing the Native Hawaiian Government. It will be
    their decision.
        The Chairman. There are 400,000 people who will decide
    themselves whether they qualify as Native Hawaiians?
        Ms. Apoliona. Part of self-determination, Senator, provides
    for, as we understand it, the ability for a community to define
    its membership, and that we would be afforded similarly that
    decision making process as Native Hawaiians. As we have said
    earlier, the impact of passage of this bill in our minds is
    very minimal, as my testimony has said. The financial impact to
    the Federal budget is very minimal, according to the report of
    the Congressional Budget Office.
        The Chairman. If you will pardon me, I was just asking how
    many people would be eligible as Native Hawaiians, and the
    answer, I guess, is 400,000?
        Ms. Apoliona. Approximately, should they choose to
    participate in reorganizing the Government.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much.
        Senator Dorgan.
        Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, first of all, thank you again
    all of you for your testimony. Chairman Hall, thank you for
    appearing frequently before this committee and providing useful
    testimony as we consider these issues. Your support of this
    legislation is important, and your response to the Chairman's
    question I think gives us the indication of the strength of
    support across the country among Indian tribes.
        Chairman Apoliona, I want to ask the question, if there is
    no financial impact here on the Federal budget, and my
    understanding is this is not something that scores with a
    substantial problem for us, if that is the case, then the
    issues that we deal with on reservations here in this country
    with Native Americans or the issues that I know you are
    concerned about with Native Hawaiians, of unemployment and
    poverty and extraordinarily high mortality rates from heart
    disease and diabetes and so on, how will passage of this
    legislation, if it has no financial impact, how will it affect
    and address some of those issues, do you think?
        Ms. Apoliona. I think, as has been mentioned by previous
    speakers, the ability to begin to reconcile our historic
    wrongs, and through the self-governance process allow for
    Native Hawaiians as a people to oversee and direct their future
    and administration of their assets, both land and resources
    that will be brought to bear and under the administration of a
    Native Hawaiian governing entity.
        The 400,000 Native Hawaiians that I refer to, Senators,
    across this Nation, Native Hawaiians, is approximately 400,000
    of all ages. There are much less adult Hawaiians as part of
    these statistics. But it will give an opportunity to guide the
    future in a self-determined way via a Native Hawaiian
    government that will be structured by Native Hawaiians.
        Senator Dorgan. So you are saying in a sense that the self-
    governance that is available under this would provide the
    ability to better manage the resources?
        Ms. Apoliona. Better manage the resources, implement
    programs that will address the needs of our people
    collectively, less dependence on government funding, and really
    provide us a strength for Native Hawaiian communities to
    participate in our national and local economy.
        Senator Dorgan. Mr. Chairman, I think that the record here
    that has been submitted by our witnesses provides a pretty
    substantial amount of information for the committee. I hope
    that we can perhaps as we go along and consider this
    legislation, call on them perhaps by submitting additional
    questions for additional information.
        I want to thank all of you for participating this morning
    in this important hearing.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much, Senator Dorgan.
        Senator Akaka.
        Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
        I also want to add that when we talk about support, that
    our State legislature, since the year 2000, has on two
    occasions passed resolutions supporting this bill.
        My first question is to Jade of CNHA. Jade, CNHA has done
    workshops on the positive economic impact of Native Hawaiian
    programs on Hawaii's economy. Can you share some of the data
    with this committee on those programs?
        Ms. Danner. Yes, Senator; I wanted to clarify for Chairman
    McCain, first, that the people who are eligible for homesteads,
    the reason that the number is different and that it does not
    have a budgetary impact is that all legislation save the
    Hawaiian Homes Commission Act is already using the definition
    of Native Hawaiian that is in the bill. So the funds that are
    appropriated now relate to that.
        But according to the economic impact, and this is linked,
    because the $59 million that I talked about is for programs. It
    is Federal funding that comes for programs for Native Hawaiian
    people with the definition of the bill. That, in turn,
    generates the $147 million in economic productivity. So this is
    a significant resource for our State's economy. It is, in
    looking at diversity of funding and trying to build an economy
    that is more diversified, it is certainly one of the
    significant sources of diversification for our community in
    terms of the homes and the construction and the private sector
    businesses that providing these services creates.
        Senator Akaka. I want you to please convey my aloha to your
    sister Robin. I should tell you that the first time, Mr.
    Chairman, I visited Point Barrow in Alaska, I met many people,
    and I met these two girls and made the comment, you two girls
    look like you are from Hawaii. [Laughter.]
        And to my surprise they said yes. They were from Hawaii.
    They were Jade and her sister Robin, who eventually moved back
    to Hawaii and have been working in our interests.
        Jade, I thank CNHA, particularly you and your sister, and
    also Tony Sang, for being here today and supporting us, and for
    all of the outreach that CNHA has done to the people of Hawaii
    to help them understand this legislation.
        Can you share with my colleagues what CNHA has done to help
    educate the people of Hawaii about this bill?
        Ms. Danner. Absolutely, Senator. The Council for Native
    Hawaiian Advancement, we provide information and resources, and
    so one of the things we do is conduct workshops in the
    communities on specific issues that relate to Native Hawaiian
    concerns. We have held over 50 community-based workshops in
    Hawaii and across the continental United States to Native
    Hawaiian communities, also attended by members of the Hawaii
    business community and the community at large, on what the
    Akaka bill does.
        We also try to put it in a context, because for Native
    Hawaiians to imagine what this means in the context of Federal
    law, we do not get to look down the road, 15 miles down the
    road, and see the next-door neighbor tribe and see how it plays
    out as a circumstance, because we are so far removed. So we
    have tried to bring information about Federal Indian law, about
    the history, and about how these authorities helped to bring
    basic services, housing, education, welfare, those kinds of
    real services to Native Hawaiians and to their own control, and
    how American Indians and Alaska Natives have used that to build
    their communities up.
        I saw a recent article that states that found that self-
    determination is working. It is the first working policy for
    American Indians and Alaska Natives, a Harvard study no less.
    And so we take those out to the community and we have reached
    over 5,000 Native Hawaiians. What we see is as Native Hawaiian
    knowledge about this world of Indian law and how self-
    governance works for American Indians, and we can make it more
    concrete for them, then support grows and understanding grows,
    and they start to have real ideas about how to implement this
    very needed thing.
        This is just an example of one of the materials that we
    distribute to each member. Each person who comes to our
    workshops gets a booklet this thick that contains the full text
    of the legislation, and some frequently asked questions and
    background information.
        So those are some of the kinds of efforts we have done.
        Senator Akaka. I know the Hawaiian community has supported
    the bill. I know that other organizations as well have done
    work in this area, in educating the Hawaiians.
        Tex Hall of NCAI, and also Julie Kitka, thank you so much
    for being here, and thank you for your unwavering support
    throughout the past 6 years. We would not have been able to
    have such a strong bill were it not for your willingness to
    share you, and I quote, share your ``lessons learned.'' Some of
    my colleagues have expressed concern that providing Federal
    recognition will be harmful to American Indians and Alaska
    Natives. I know you have made some comments on this already,
    but what is your additional response to that comment? Tex?
        Mr. Hall. Thank you for the question, Senator Akaka. I
    would disagree with that completely. Federal recognition and
    self-determination works. As Jade Danner had mentioned, the
    Harvard study clearly shows that it works. When indigenous
    peoples can govern and manage their own affairs, their health
    improves, the economy improves, the educational literacy
    improves, their Native culture remains intact, their Native
    language remains intact, better relations are developed within
    the community and the surrounding community within the State.
    Everyone really improves with the socioeconomic conditions.
        So Federal recognition, self-determination clearly is a
    great, I think it is a great victory for American Indian and
    Alaska Natives. So if that is afforded in S. 147, I am firmly
    confident that that will occur with the Native Hawaiians as
    well.
        Senator Akaka. Thank you very much.
        Julie.
        Ms. Kitka. Mr. Chairman, Senator Akaka, to respond to your
    question, my name is Julie Kitka. I am the president of the
    Alaska Federation of Natives.
        I agree with Chairman Tex Hall that self-determination is
    one of the most successful Federal policies that we have in
    recent experience. We believe that the recognition of the
    Native Hawaiians is just another building block in the whole
    notion of self-determination.
        I would also cast self-determination as part of
    strengthening democracy here at home. The United States has
    made a policy of strengthening democracy and freedom all around
    the world. I think it is very important to look at this
    recognition bill as a building block of self-determination and
    strengthening democracy here at home.
        Native Americans, American Indians, Alaska Natives and
    Native Hawaiians have the highest rate of participation in the
    military services since World War II in every branch of the
    service. I look at the Vietnam War, in particular Alaska
    Natives, we had the highest rate of volunteerism for that, not
    draft. I think it is really important to strengthen democracy
    at home, and I think the recognition of the Native Hawaiians is
    a component of strengthening democracy, as well as furthering
    self-determination.
        I would hope that once the Hawaiians are recognized, that
    the Congress would be ready to move on a whole other level of
    self-determination which would empower our people to contribute
    even more to this country.
        Thank you.
        Senator Akaka. Thank you very much for your responses. I
    also want to say aloha to the trustees of the OHA, who are
    here, and welcome and thank you for coming.
        Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
        The Chairman. Thank you very much.
        I thank the witnesses for coming such a long way. We
    appreciate your views. As I said, we will move this to a vote
    of the committee by sometime next week.
        This hearing is adjourned. Thank you.
        [Whereupon, at 11:25 a.m. the committee was adjourned, to
    reconvene at the call of the chair.]

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     Prepared Statement of Hon. Neil Abercrombie, U.S. Representative from
                                     Hawaii

        Thank you Chairman McCain and Vice Chairman Dorgan for allowing me
    to submit my testimony in support of S. 147, the Native Hawaiian
    Government Reorganization Act of 2005. I appreciate your willingness to
    hold this hearing and to hear from the people of the State of Hawaii.
        This bill would provide Native Hawaiians a process through which
    the Federal recognition. Rather than summarize the details of the
    legislation, I would like to focus on why this legislation is so
    urgently needed in Hawaii and why passage of S. 147 would be the fair
    and honorable thing to do.
        The State of Hawaii was once the Kingdom of Hawaii, with a monarchy
    that was afforded full diplomatic recognition by the United States. On
    January 17, 1893, the government of the Kingdom of Hawaii was
    overthrown by a group of American citizens, who acted with the support
    of U.S. Minister John Stephens and a contingent of U.S. Marines from
    the U.S.S. Boston. It is important to note that the Native Hawaiian
    people never willingly relinquished their inherent claims to
    sovereignty and to this day, retain their unique identity through their
    distinct cultural, social and political traditions and institutions.
        Following the annexation, the conditions of Native Hawaiians in the
    territory of Hawaii declined to such an extent that Congress passed a
    law to set aside more than 200,000 acres of land to address these
    problems. These lands were not given back to the Native Hawaiian
    people. Rather, the Federal Government held the title and administered
    these lands for Native Hawaiians. When Hawaii achieved statehood, these
    lands were included in a public trust and the Federal Government
    transferred administrative responsibility to the government of the
    State of Hawaii. To this day, Native Hawaiians remain subject to the
    final authority of the Federal Government.
        Native Hawaiians are a distinct indigenous population with their
    own culture, identity and assets set aside for their benefit. However,
    unlike other indigenous populations, Native Hawaiians do not have
    control over their own land, resources and other assets. S. 147 would
    remedy this error and extend to Native Hawaiians the policy of self-
    governance and self-determination currently practiced by American
    Indians and Alaska Natives.
        It is important to note that the Federal Government already treats
    Native Hawaiians as an indigenous population in many respects. The U.S.
    Congress has enacted over 160 laws designed to address the conditions
    of Native Hawaiians. These Federal laws provide for the provision of
    healthcare, education, job training, the preservation of native
    languages, the protection of Native American graves and the
    repatriation of Native American human remains. Thus, recognition would
    not necessitate new programs nor would it impact existing programs for
    American Indians and Alaska Natives. It simply gives Native Hawaiians a
    seat at the table and a voice in matters affecting their destiny.
        It is time for the United States to formally recognize its special
    relationship and extend justice to the Native Hawaiian people.
                                     ______

      Prepared Statement of Hon. Ed Case, U.S. Representative from Hawaii

        Mr. Chairman, Senator Dorgan, and members of the committee, good
    morning and aloha! As the Representative from the Congressional
    district with more Native Hawaiians than any other in our country, I am
    honored today to testify in unqualified support of S. 147, the Native
    Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act, introduced by my colleagues,
    Senators Akaka and Inouye, on January 25, 2005. My House colleague,
    Congressman Neil Abercrombie, and I co-introduced companion
    legislation, H.R. 309, on the same day in the House. Our collective
    actions mark a united and continuing commitment by Hawaii's entire
    delegation to the most vital single piece of legislation for our Hawaii
    since Statehood.
        This legislation affirms the longstanding political relationship
    between Native Hawaiians, the indigenous peoples of our Hawaii, and our
    Federal Government, and extends to Native Hawaii is the time-honored
    Federal policy of self-determination provided other indigenous ?peoples
    under U.S. jurisdiction.
        Mr. Chairman, allow me to be direct: This legislation is
    indispensable both to the Hawaiian people, wherever they are, and to
    all of our Hawaii. The stakes are nothing more or less than the
    survival and prosperity not only of our indigenous people and culture,
    but of the very soul of our Hawaii as we know and love it.
        From that perspective, I speak to you today on behalf of all of
    Hawaii's people, and all those worldwide for whom Hawaii, in all of her
    forms, be they natural, environmental, cultural social, or spiritual,
    is a truly special and unique place. And I say to you that Hawaii--the
    Hawaii that is the indigenous home of all Native Hawaiians, that my own
    ancestors and many other non-Native Hawaiians embraced since recorded
    Western discovery in 1778, and that so many throughout the world
    continue to view as a beacon for what can be in our world--our Hawaii
    has never been so at risk as today.
        It is at risk because it is a creation of and rests upon the
    foundation of our Native Hawaiian people and culture, and their
    survival and prosperity are at risk. As they go, so goes Hawaii as we
    know it, and a Hawaii which is not Hawaiian is not a Hawaii I can bear
    to envision.
        Nor is Federal recognition for Native Hawaiians exclusively a
    Hawaii issue. Census figures show that our country is home to more than
    400,000 Native Hawaiians, with 160,000 living outside of Hawaii. And
    clearly the preservation of the Hawaii that so many throughout our
    world have come to know and love is of great concern to so many well
    beyond our borders.
        So our goal is not only reaffirming the longstanding historical and
    political relationship between Native Hawaiians and the United States,
    not only delivering fairness and justice to Native Hawaiians, but
    ensuring the very survival and prosperity of our Native Hawaiian people
    and culture and, through them, Hawaii itself. And this is a truly
    common goal, evidenced by road-based support among Hawaii's political
    leaders, and Hawaiians and non-Hawaiians alike, which spans ethnic,
    partisan and other distinctions.
        The goal of assisting Native Hawaiians is not new to our Federal
    Government. Beyond a longstanding relationship that was reaffirmed when
    Hawaii became a territory in 1900 and a State in 1959, over 160 Federal
    statutes have enacted programs to better the conditions of Native
    Hawaiians in areas such as Hawaiian homelands, health, education and
    economic development, all exercises of Congress' plenary authority
    under our U.S. Constitution to address the conditions of indigenous
    peoples. These have been matched by State and quasi-autonomous entities
    such as the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and the Department of Hawaiian
    Home Lands, and private entities like the Kamehameha Schools. And they
    have born fruit with a renewed focus on unique Native Hawaiian needs
    and a renaissance of Native Hawaiian culture. Federal recognition is
    the big picture framework by which these indispensable efforts can be
    carried forward into the next generation of Native Hawaiian governance.
        Federal recognition is also the time-honored means of memorializing
    our government's relationship With the indigenous peoples of the
    contiguous 48 States and Alaska. There, either government-to-government
    treaties or the Bureau of Indian Affairs recognition process or
    legislative recognition have extended self-determination and affirmed
    relationships. Although the difference between those peoples and Native
    Hawaiians is exclusively geographic, such means have simply not been
    either available or exercised in the case of Native Hawaiians.
        Nor is the goal of extending Federal recognition to Native
    Hawaiians a new one. The enactment into law in 1993 of the Apology
    Resolution [P.L. 103-150] expressed a national commitment to
    reconciliation efforts between Native Hawaiians and the Federal
    Government. Subsequent efforts through the Departments of Justice and
    Interior, as well as the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and
    Pacific Islanders established by executive orders of both Presidents
    Clinton and Bush, identified Federal recognition legislation and the
    inclusion of Native Hawaiians in Federal programs and services as top
    priorities. In fact, during the 106th Congress, the House passed
    Federal recognition legislation for Native Hawaiians, on September 26,
    2000.
        Most recently, the Office of Hawaiian Relations was established
    within the Department of the Interior. Structurally organized under the
    Assistant Secretary for Policy, Management, and Budget, this new office
    is a welcome and positive step forward in coordinating policies within
    the Department as they affect Native Hawaiians. Already the Department
    oversees pertinent issues such as Hawaiian home lands, historic
    preservation, the Native American Graves Protection Act, the Native
    Hawaiian Culture and Arts Program, and the consideration of Native
    Hawaiians in natural resources management, including our Hawaii
    national parks.
        The time is long overdue for our Federal Government to create a
    permanent and sustainable relationship with Native Hawaiians in order
    to resolve longstanding issues and ensure the survival and prosperity
    of the Native Hawaiian people and culture and of their special home.
    For all of us in Hawaii, Mr. Chairman, and in fact for all Native
    Hawaiians wherever throughout our country and world they may live, I
    urge the passage of this crucial legislation.
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      Prepared Statement of Hon. Byron L. Dorgan, U.S. Senator from North
               Dakota, Vice Chairman, Committee on Indian Affairs

        I thank the chairman for scheduling this hearing today on a bill
    that is very important to two of our most distinguished members of this
    committee--the former chairman and vice chairman, Senator Inouye, and
    the principal sponsor of this legislation, Senator Akaka.
        I have had the opportunity to visit with the chair of the Board of
    Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and I have learned that
    through this bill, the Native Hawaiian people simply seek a status
    under Federal law that is equal to that of America's other Native
    peoples--American Indians and Alaska Natives.
        Federal programs for Native Hawaiians that provide support for
    education, health care, housing, job training and employment, and
    protection of cultural resources have been in place since the 1970's,
    and that is why the Congressional Budget Office has projected that
    there will be no impact on the Federal budget--whether measured in
    terms of budget authority or outlays--associated with the extension of
    Federal recognition to a Native Hawaiian government.
        And to those who are concerned that this bill will give rise to
    conditions that may be similar to some of the less desirable dynamics
    in Indian country, this reorganized Native Hawaiian government will sit
    down and negotiate with the United States and the State of Hawaii to
    work out their relationships and the exercise of their respective
    governmental powers and authorities.
        Once the three governments have reached agreements, the Congress
    and the legislature of the State of Hawaii will have to enact further
    legislation to implement their agreements. So we will have the
    opportunity to fully understand the nature and scope of these proposed
    relationships and sharing of governmental powers and authorities before
    we vote on legislation to make their agreements part of Federal law.
        I believe that through this bill, the Senators from Hawaii have
    laid out a process that is not only reasonable and prudent, but which
    will enable the three governments to develop good working relationships
    with one another that will be premised upon their consensus.
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     Prepared Statement of Hon. Daniel K. Inouye, U.S. Senator from Hawaii

        I thank our chairman for agreeing to schedule this hearing today so
    that our Governor could be present as the committee considers this
    measure that we believe is vitally important to the State of Hawaii.
        Mr. Chairman, in the interest of time., I will ask that my full
    statement be included in the record, and I will limit my remarks to
    just a few points.
        First, I want to welcome our Governor, the honorable Linda Lingle,
    to this hearing, and to welcome as well the chairperson of the Board of
    Trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and all of those who have
    traveled so far to be with us today.
        Second, because so much of what we are here today to consider
    arises out of events that took place long ago, I think it is important
    to note the following--as most of us know, the government of Hawaii
    that represented the Native Hawaiian people was overthrown with the
    assistance of U.S. troops on January 17, 1893; but what is less well
    known, is that notwithstanding the overthrow of their government, the
    Native Hawaiian people never ceased their expression of their political
    status;
       \\\\\\Through the Royal Societies and later, the Hawaiian
            Civic Clubs, all manner of cultural, political and social
            activities and relationships unique to the Native Hawaiian
            people were kept intact;
       \\\\\\This distinct status of the Native Hawaiian people is
            so widely accepted as part of the fundamental societal fabric
            of Hawaii, that it is not at all surprising that ALL of the
            citizens of Hawaii came together in 1978 to amend the State's
            constitution to establish the Office of Hawaiian Affairs--in
            order to assure that Native Hawaiians would have a distinct
            voice in the government of Hawaii.
        As a member of the Territorial legislature of Hawaii, I was
    privileged to take part in the negotiations that led to our compact
    with the United States, and I know first hand what happened at that
    time.
        It can be seen in our Admissions and it is evidenced in our State
    Constitution.
        The United States and the State of Hawaii agreed at that time that
    Native Hawaiians would continue to have a separate status under Federal
    law--the Statehood Act so provides--as well as under State law--as our
    State's Constitution provides.
        At no time, was there ever discussion of terminating the distinct
    status of the Native Hawaiian people--under either Federal or State
    law.
        At no time did the United States jettison its relationship with the
    Native Hawaiian people--in fact, in contrast, the United States
    retained the authority to enforce against any breach of the Hawaiian
    home lands trust, and to consent to any amendments to the Hawaiian
    Homes Commission Act.
        Over 160 Federal laws have subsequently been enacted by the U.S.
    Congress and signed into law by the succeeding Presidents of the United
    States--each of those laws building upon and adding to the founding
    principles that were recognized at Statehood and before--that Native
    Hawaiians are both citizens of our State and of the United States, but
    like the other indigenous, native people of America--they have their
    own distinct status under the law. That has never changed.
        We are here today to consider a bill that the Congressional Budget
    Office has consistently concluded has no impact on the Federal budget.
        This bill does not make Native Hawaiians into American Indians or
    Alaska Natives--nor does it make Native Hawaiians eligible for programs
    that are designed to assist American Indians or Alaska Natives.
        We have put some disclaimers in this bill, but in my view, they are
    not necessary--because it is clear, and has always been clear, that
    Native Hawaiians are a distinct and unique native people who are
    indigenous to the United States--but they are not American Indians or
    Alaska Natives, nor do they seek to be.
        Rather they seek parity--equality--self-determination and the right
    to self-governance as our Federal policies have recognized for the last
    35 years.
        The fact that the citizens of our State--through our Governor and
    our legislature--so strongly support the reorganization of a Native
    Hawaiian government and the restoration of a relationship with the
    United States should, in my mind, hold great weight.
        We are not naive nor do we enter this arena lightly.
        We have tried for many, many years now to secure passage of this
    legislation, and we have not, nor will we--be deterred from the course
    of action that we believe is in the best interests of all of the
    citizens of our State.
        So I thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Vice Chairman Dorgan, for
    affording us the opportunity to have our voices heard in this--our
    Nation's capital.
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           Prepared Statement of Linda Lingle, Governor, from Hawaii

        Chairman McCain, Vice Chairman Dorgan, Senator Inouye, Senator
    Akaka, and other committee members, thank you for this opportunity to
    speak with you today about an issue of great importance to my State.
        Knowing the many pressing national issues you are facing, I am
    especially grateful for the time you are allocating to hear testimony
    today on S. 147, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of
    2005.
        I am appearing before you on behalf of the people of Hawaii. We are
    seeking justice for the Native Hawaiian people, who have been made to
    wait too long for the kind of recognition that Congress has granted to
    America's other indigenous peoples.
        Let me address upfront the claim by some opponents of S. 147 that
    Federal recognition of Native Hawaiians constitutes a race-based
    preference or racial discrimination. Calling S. 147 a race-based
    preference ignores both the facts and the historic relationship that
    has existed between the United States, the former Kingdom of Hawaii and
    the Native Hawaiian people since at least 1826.
        Let's look at the facts.
        Native Hawaiians were governed by their own leaders and their own
    laws long before Europeans and Americans came to the Hawaiian Islands.
        The United States recognized and understood that the Kingdom of
    Hawaii was a sovereign nation as evidenced by the exercise of Congress'
    constitutional authority to confirm treaties between the United States
    and the Kingdom of Hawaii as far back as 1826.
        When the United States annexed Hawaii as a territory, it
    effectively subordinated the Native Hawaiian government to the Federal
    Government. Hence the United States' relationship to the people
    governed by the Native Hawaiian government was political, not racial,
    in nature.
        To those who opine that S. 147 will result in racial
    discrimination, I would posit that the only discrimination that can
    reasonably be associated with this bill is if it fails to become law.
    Let me explain this point.
        The United States is inhabited by three indigenous peoples-American
    Indians, Native Alaskans, and Native Hawaiians.
        While these three indigenous groups differ in culture, history, and
    anthropological origin, all share three fundamental attributes: (1)
    they were here long before any European explorer ever set foot on the
    North American continent or the Hawaiian archipelago; (2) they lived
    according to their own governmental structures on their homelands long
    before the Federal Government of the United States was imposed upon
    them; and (3) the United States historically acknowledged their
    existence as distinct nations.
        Congress has given two of these three populations full self-
    governance rights. The Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act
    allows Native Hawaiians to receive parity with the Nation's other
    indigenous peoples. To withhold recognition of the Native Hawaiian
    people therefore amounts to discrimination since it would continue to
    treat the Nation's three groups of indigenous people differently.
        The United States has historically recognized Native Hawaiians as a
    separate indigenous people by entering treaties with them as early as
    1826 and enacting over 150 pieces of legislation relating them,
    including measures as recent as 2004.
        Yet today there is no one governmental entity able to speak for or
    represent Native Hawaiians. The act before you today would finally
    allow the process to begin that would bring equal treatment to the
    Native Hawaiian people.
        You are not being asked to extend the ability to establish a self-
    governing structure to the Native Hawaiians because of their race.
    Rather you are being asked to do so because of their unique status as
    the indigenous people of a once sovereign nation to whom the United
    States has a recognized trust responsibility. Passage of S. 147 would
    grant simple, but profound justice to the proud Native Hawaiian people
    whose future well-being is essential to the long-term well-being of the
    State of Hawaii.
        Besides granting long-delayed justice to the Native Hawaiian
    people, S. 147 achieves four important results for everyone in the
    State of Hawaii.
        No. 1. Enhances the ability of individual Native Hawaiians to
    become more self-sufficient, which reduces their reliance on State and
    federally funded services.
        A Native Hawaiian government using existing appropriated funds will
    be in a position to engage in meaningful economic development that not
    only will generate revenue for social services and other programs, but
    most importantly will create new employment opportunities for
    individual Native Hawaiians.
        No. 2. Provides greater accountability for and makes more efficient
    and effective use of State and Federal programs.
        In more than 150 pieces of legislation passed during the past 85
    years Congress has recognized the unique needs of Native Hawaiians.
    Having a single governmental entity to represent and speak for the
    Native Hawaiian people will maximize the effectiveness of these
    programs and make it easier to ensure accountability.
        No. 3. Creates the best opportunity to preserve the Native Hawaiian
    culture.
        The unique nature of Hawaii is derived largely from the indigenous
    culture of the Native Hawaiians.
        Native governments, like the one established by this act, are well
    documented to best nurture and protect traditional native culture and
    values.
        In Hawaii, where the Native Hawaiian culture is the primary
    attraction for a tourist industry that fuels the State's economy,
    preservation of the Native Hawaiian culture is an economic imperative.
        No. 4. Protects existing programs by clarifying that the
    relationship between the United States and the Native Hawaiian people
    has government-to-govermnent origins rather than racial origins.
    Current and continuing legal challenges are unnecessarily putting
    programs to benefit Native Hawaiians at risk.
        As I previously testified before your committee in 2003, this bill
    is vital to the survival of the Native Hawaiian people, it is vital to
    providing parity in Federal policy for all native peoples in America,
    and it is vital to the continued character of the State of Hawaii.
        Let me conclude by telling you that this bill will be a unifying
    force for our State. It is supported by every elected official of both
    major political parties, it is supported overwhelmingly by people of
    all ethnic backgrounds, and it is supported by a majority of the
    State's business community, including the two largest banks.
        Your passage of S. 147 will allow a process to begin that will lead
    to the kind of self-government enjoyed by the Nation's other indigenous
    people and it will reaffirm our Nation's commitment of equal treatment
    for all its citizens.
        Thank you again for allocating the committee's valuable time to
    consider this matter of great importance to the people and the State of
    Hawaii.

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