[Senate Hearing 108-792]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
FOREIGN OPERATIONS, EXPORT FINANCING, AND RELATED PROGRAMS
APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2005
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THURSDAY, APRIL 8, 2004
U.S. Senate,
Subcommittee of the Committee on Appropriations,
Washington, DC.
The subcommittee met at 2:30 p.m., in room SD-124, Dirksen
Senate Office Building, Hon. Mitch McConnell (chairman)
presiding.
Present: Senators McConnell, Specter, Bennett, DeWine,
Stevens, Leahy, Harkin, Durbin, Landrieu, and Byrd.
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Secretary
STATEMENT OF HON. COLIN L. POWELL, SECRETARY
opening statement of senator mitch mc connell
Senator McConnell. This hearing will come to order. We want
to welcome the Secretary of State. After a couple of false
starts, we are pleased to hold the first of three hearings on
the fiscal 2005 budget request.
On April 21, USAID Administrator Natsios and State Counter-
terrorism Coordinator Cofer Black will testify on foreign
assistance and international terrorism. On April 28, HIV-AIDS
Coordinator Tobias will appear before the subcommittee to
discuss the fiscal year 2005 HIV-AIDS request.
In the interest of time, Senator Leahy and I will make
brief opening remarks, and I would request Secretary Powell, as
usual, to summarize his testimony, which will be included in
the record in its entirety. We will then move to 5-minute
rounds of questioning, and the record will be kept open to
ensure that all senators have an opportunity to have their
questions addressed.
Mr. Secretary, I want to begin by thanking you and the
President's foreign policy team for your collective efforts to
promote freedom across the globe and, in my judgment, nowhere
is this more apparent than in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Having traveled to the Middle East and South Asia myself,
about 6 months ago, I can attest that the citizens of those
countries are clearly better off today than they were under the
repressive misrule of Saddam Hussein and the Taliban,
respectively.
iraq
The recent BBC/ABC poll results in Iraq are fascinating. I
wish Americans were as upbeat about America as Iraqis are about
Iraq. If you watched U.S. television every day, you would think
nothing but bad things are happening in Iraq, and surely the
Iraqi people would be depressed about that. However, in the
BBC/ABC poll--which was taken from February 9 to February 28--
in answer to the question, ``How are things going today, good
or bad, in Iraq?'', 70 percent said good, 29 percent said bad.
That is a question the President would love to see answered
that way here. Compared to a year ago before the war in Iraq:
56 percent responded things are better; the same, 23 percent;
worse, 19 percent.
In terms of the optimism factor, that is, how they will be
a year from now, 71 percent of Iraqis thought things would be
better, only 9 percent thought they would be the same, and only
7 percent thought they would be worse. I think that pretty well
sums up the results of a professional poll about how Iraqis
themselves--those who experienced the murders of 300,000 of
their own citizens during the Saddam Hussein regime--feel about
their prospects, Mr. Secretary, as a result of your leadership
and that of the President and others in liberating that country
from the regime that had terrorized not only its own citizens
but its neighbors for well over a quarter of a century.
To be sure, the Islamic extremists are working hard to
undermine the new-found freedoms; and, in desperation, are
attacking soft targets: innocent men, women, and children.
These terrorists know that each step toward democracy is yet
another step in the death march for their hateful and
intolerant ideology.
In Iraq, we should expect increased terrorist activities in
the days and months before the June 30 transition. We have been
seeing that lately.
Beginning July 1, and under your watchful eye at the State
Department, I am confident that the Iraqi people will not only
stay the course but continue to further consolidate the
significant gains they have achieved in a relatively short
period of time.
However, freedom is not free. And we thank the many
soldiers and civilians serving on the front lines of the global
war on terrorism; whether American, Iraqi, or Afghani.
Today's hearing affords this subcommittee an opportunity to
glean additional information on the President's $21 billion
budget request for the next fiscal year. And it would be
helpful, Mr. Secretary, to have your insights as chairman of
the Millennium Challenge Corporation.
I know several of my colleagues share a concern with the
proposed funding levels for SEED and FSA accounts. While we
support graduation of countries from U.S. foreign assistance,
we are troubled by developments in such places as Russia and
Serbia. I want to commend you for giving voice to these shared
concerns during your trip to Russia earlier this year, and for
not certifying Serbia's cooperation on war crimes issues last
week.
u.s. emergency fund
It would also be useful to have your views on the proposed
$100 million U.S. Emergency Fund for Complex Foreign Crises.
This strikes me as a good idea, given the need to respond with
maximum flexibility to unanticipated events and opportunities,
particularly in the Middle East and on the African continent.
Libya comes readily to mind.
Just a couple of observations, which will not surprise you,
relating to Burma. Congress will begin the process of sanctions
renewal in the next few weeks. I deeply appreciate the
President's continued interest and leadership on this issue, as
well as your own. I know we will be able to count on your
support for continued sanctions, given the total absence of
irreversible progress toward democracy in that country.
It is simply not enough for Aung San Suu Kyi to be released
or that she be given a last-minute seat at the table. We can
pretend that the State Peace and Development Council is serious
about a constitutional convention--as Thailand seems to be
intent on doing--but I hope we will not have short or selective
memories when it comes to that subject.
Justice is certainly due for the May 30 attack on Suu Kyi
and the NLD, and the regime ought to be held accountable for
its actions.
prepared statement
In that regard I would encourage you to renew and
reinvigorate efforts to secure sanctions regimes from the
European Union and other professed supporters of freedom around
the world. Unfortunately, we are hearing that international
financial institutions, particularly the World Bank and the
Asian Development Bank, are keen on re-engaging in Burma. They
do so at their own risks and should begin finding other funding
sources for the upcoming fiscal year, because none will be
forthcoming from this subcommittee.
[The statement follows:]
Prepared Statement of Senator Mitch McConnell
Mr. Secretary, I want to begin my remarks this afternoon by
thanking you and the President's foreign policy team for your
collective efforts to promote freedom across the globe. Nowhere is this
more apparent than in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Having traveled to the Middle East and South Asia some six months
ago, I can attest that the citizens of those countries are better off
today than they were under the repressive misrule of Saddam Hussein and
the Taliban, respectively.
I saw this firsthand through bustling, free commerce in the
streets, freedom of expression that takes many forms, and through the
words of grateful Iraqis and Afghanis whose once bleak future now holds
promise and hope.
To be sure, Islamic extremists are working hard to undermine these
new-found freedoms and in desperation are increasingly attacking soft
targets: innocent men, women and children. These terrorists know that
each step toward democracy is a yet another step in the death march for
their hateful and intolerant ideology.
In Iraq, we should expect increased terrorist activities in the
days and months before the June 30 transition. Beginning July 1--and
under your watchful eye at the State Department--I am confident that
the Iraqi people will not only stay the course but continue to further
consolidate the significant gains they have achieved in such a short
time.
However, freedom is not free. This Senator thanks the many soldiers
and civilians serving on the front lines of the global war on
terrorism--whether American, Iraqi or Afghani.
Today's hearing affords this Subcommittee an opportunity to glean
additional information on the President's $21 billion, fiscal year 2005
budget request for foreign operations. It would helpful to have your
insights into the request, both as Secretary of State and Chairman of
the Millennium Challenge Corporation.
I know several of my colleagues share my concern with the proposed
funding levels for the SEED and FSA accounts, and while we support
graduation of countries from U.S. foreign assistance we are troubled by
developments in such places as Russia and Serbia. I want to commend you
for giving voice to shared concerns during your trip to Russia earlier
this year, and for not certifying Serbia's cooperation on war crimes
issues last week.
It would also be useful to have your views on the proposed $100
million U.S. Emergency Fund for Complex Foreign Crises. This strikes me
as a good idea given the need to respond with maximum flexibility to
unanticipated events and opportunities, particularly in the Middle East
and on the African continent. Libya comes readily to mind.
Let me close with a few comments on Burma.
Congress will begin the process of sanctions renewal in the next
few weeks, and I deeply appreciate the President's continued interest
and leadership on this issue. I hope--and expect--that we can count on
your support, Mr. Secretary, for continued sanctions, given the total
absence of irreversible progress toward democracy in that country.
It is simply not enough that Aung San Suu Kyi be released, or that
she be given a last minute seat at the table. We can pretend that the
State Peace and Development Council (SPDC) is serious about a
constitutional convention--as Thailand seems intent on doing--but we
should not have short or selective memories.
Justice is due for the May 30 attack on Suu Kyi and the NLD, and
the SPDC must be held accountable for its actions.
I encourage you to renew and reinvigorate efforts to secure
sanction regimes from the European Union and other professed supporters
of freedom around the world. Unfortunately, I am hearing that
international financial institutions--particularly the World Bank and
the Asian Development Bank--are keen on re-engaging Burma. They do so
at their own risks, and should begin finding other funding sources for
the upcoming fiscal year because none will be forthcoming from this
Subcommittee.
Again, welcome Mr. Secretary. I look forward to your testimony.
Senator McConnell. With that, I turn to my friend from
Vermont.
OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR PATRICK J. LEAHY
Senator Leahy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I am glad you are
scheduling this hearing. Incidentally, I would urge the members
of this subcommittee to read the Op-ed piece that Senator
McConnell had in the Washington Post yesterday about Egypt. I
think that one does not have to be a great analyst to
understand that there may be some changes in our approach to
foreign aid there. And I commend the chairman for his article.
Senator McConnell. Thank you.
Senator Leahy. And, Mr. Secretary, of course, thank you for
being here. You are one of the Cabinet members who regularly
comes before our committees; not all of your colleagues are
willing to and I am delighted that you do.
We have a lot to talk about. Obviously, the situation in
Iraq is of great concern. We had a discussion earlier this
morning when we went over the violence and the number of
casualties; and, of course, you have to feel for the families
of our brave soldiers, and marines, who are over there. They
are facing horrendous dangers.
Your background is in the military. You have a better idea
than all of us of what they are going through in combat; and
also what their families go through when they are either killed
or sometimes severely injured with lifetime injuries.
IRAQ RECONSTRUCTION
We have appropriated more than $20 billion to rebuild Iraq.
And that is, of course, in addition to the hundreds of billions
of dollars we are spending there on the military operations.
Last October, the President said the reconstruction money
in the Iraq supplemental was an emergency. And we were told by
the administration that the President needed every dime, he
needed it immediately. And when some Members on both sides of
the aisle tried to look at it, maybe split it up, here in the
Appropriations Committee, we were told we had to pass it
immediately.
Five months later, only about a ninth of the money has
actually been spent. In the meantime, the violence is spreading
and we hear, as a strategy, only about sending more troops.
Mr. Secretary, this is an election year and like all
election years, partisanship up here is at a high--although I
must say in my 29 years here, it is at an all-time high. But
the situation in Iraq is not about Democrats or Republicans. It
is a problem for all Americans. We need to work together to
solve it.
You and I have known each other for, I think, a couple of
decades now. And I have always considered you as somebody who
can bring people of different political persuasions together. I
have seen you do that at meetings, where you have had people
across the political spectrum. Well, we need unity today. We
need it between the Congress and the White House. We need it
among the American people. And we need it with our allies.
I believe that the majority of Iraqis reject violence. They
want to rebuild their country. But I do not think our strategy
is working.
Our forces can quash this latest uprising; they will. But
what is happening in Iraq today does not bode well for the
future. Just ``staying the course'' is not a viable strategy at
this point, at least not to me.
Using more force, or simply sending more troops, will not
solve the problem, nor simply replacing the CPA with a giant
U.S. Embassy.
We need a broader, multilateral approach that has the
support of a majority of the American people and the Iraqi
people, as well as our allies and the international community,
including as many Arab and Muslim nations as possible.
STRATEGY OPTIONS
Let me suggest just a couple of ideas. I believe the
President should immediately convene a bipartisan summit of his
key Cabinet officials and bipartisan Members of the
congressional leadership at the White House to discuss the
strategy options for the coming months.
Second, I believe the President should address the American
people, explain his strategy in some detail and the difficult
road ahead, and tell our families how long we can expect our
soldiers to be in Iraq.
Third, I believe the President should convene a summit of
the world's major democracies, including those that opposed his
decision to go to war. Because rebuilding Iraq poses a
challenge not only for the United States, but for the rest of
the world. And if civil war takes hold there, we know how
disastrous the consequences could be.
Fourth, the President should send you, Mr. Secretary, back
to the U.N. Security Council, to seek a new resolution calling
for increased support from other nations, aimed specifically at
addressing the deteriorating security situation.
That resolution, I believe, should also call for the
appointment, by June 30, of a U.N. Administrator under the
auspices of the Security Council, to work closely with the
Iraqi Provisional Government to make clear that this is not
simply a puppet government that answers to the United States.
Finally, armed with a U.N. Security Council resolution, I
believe the President should go back to NATO to ask our allies
for additional troops and resources.
Mr. Secretary, you may not agree with any of these
suggestions but I hope you will at least consider them and give
me your thoughts; because as the top diplomat in the government
I believe you should be playing a bigger role.
PREPARED STATEMENT
I do not offer these ideas as a Democrat or Republican. I
offer these as somebody who has been in the U.S. Senate for 29
years. And I have worked on a lot of things with a lot of
different administrations in both parties. I really think this
is the time to bring people together.
Mr. Chairman, I have a lot more in my statement.
Senator McConnell. Thank you.
Senator Leahy. I will put that in the record.
[The statement follows:]
Prepared Statement of Senator Patrick J. Leahy
Mr. Chairman, thank you for scheduling this hearing, and thank you
Mr. Secretary for being here.
We have a lot to discuss today but the situation in Iraq is of
great concern. We have all been shocked by the violence and the number
of casualties in the past few days, and our deepest condolences go out
to the families of those who have died.
We have appropriated more than $20 billion to rebuild Iraq. That is
in addition to the hundreds of billions of dollars we will spend on our
military operations there.
Last October, the President said the reconstruction money in the
Iraq supplemental was an emergency. He said he needed every dime
immediately. Five months later, only about one-ninth of the money has
been spent. In the meantime, the violence is spreading and it is not
clear what our strategy is, except possibly sending more troops.
Mr. Secretary, this is an election year and partisanship up here is
at an all time high. But the situation in Iraq isn't about Democrats or
Republicans. It is a problem for all Americans and we need to work
together to try to solve it.
You and I have known each other for a couple of decades. I have
always considered you someone who can bring people of all political
persuasions together. We need unity today, between Congress and the
White House, among the American people, and with our allies.
I believe the majority of Iraqis reject violence and want to
rebuild their country. But I don't think the President's strategy is
working. Our forces can quash this latest uprising, but what is
happening in Iraq today does not bode well for the future. Just
``staying the course'' is not a viable strategy at this point, at least
not to me. Using more force, or simply sending more troops, will not
solve the problem, nor will simply replacing the CPA with a U.S.
Embassy.
We need a broader, multilateral approach that has the support of a
majority of the American people and the Iraqi people, as well as our
allies and the international community, including as many Arab and
other Muslim nations as possible.
Let me suggest a couple of possible ideas.
First, I believe the President should convene a bipartisan summit
of his key Cabinet officials and Congressional leaders at the White
House to discuss strategy options for the coming months.
Second, the President should address the American people, explain
his strategy and the difficult road ahead, including how long we can
expect our soldiers to be in Iraq.
Third, the President should convene a summit of the world's major
democracies, including those that opposed his decision to go to war.
Rebuilding Iraq poses a challenge not only for the United States, but
for the rest of the world. If civil war takes hold there, we know how
disastrous the consequences could be.
Fourth, the President should send you, Mr. Secretary, back to the
U.N. Security Council, to seek a new resolution calling for increased
support from other nations, aimed specifically at addressing the
deteriorating security situation. That resolution should also call for
the appointment, by June 30, of a U.N. Administrator, under the
auspices of the Security Council, to work closely with the Iraqi
Provisional Government to make clear that this is not simply a puppet
government that answers to the United States.
Finally, armed with a U.N. Security Council resolution, the
President should go back to NATO to ask our allies for additional
troops and resources.
Mr. Secretary, you may not agree with any of these suggestions. But
I hope you will at least consider them and give me your thoughts,
because as the top diplomat in this government I believe you need to be
playing a bigger role.
Mr. Chairman, I have a longer statement that highlights a number of
my other concerns, but in the interest of saving time I will ask that
you include it in the record. Mr. Secretary, I hope you will take the
time to review it.
Recently, the Pew Research Center released the results of its
survey on the way the United States is regarded around the world, more
than two years after 9/11 when we were the focus of so much sympathy
and good will. I am suer you know the results. In country after
country, the majority of people have a negative opinion of the United
States.
Another Pew poll showed that support among the American people for
the President's policy in Iraq has steadily declined. I think these
polls are a telling measure of the shortcomings of this
Administration's strategy against terrorism, and also of the
unilateralism and high handedness that have too often characterized our
dealings with the rest of the world.
Turning to the fiscal year 2005 budget, the President's request
would cut vital programs like Child Survival and Health which have
strong bipartisan support. But not only that, it is doubtful we will
receive an allocation from the Appropriations Committee that matches
even the President's request.
What this means is that we will, once again, have to rob Peter to
pay Paul in order to restore the cuts the President made, because it is
a zero sum game. This will cause problems for you and the people in our
embassies who carry out the foreign policies of this country. Whatever
you, the OMB Director, and the President can do to convince the
Republican leadership here about the importance of this Subcommittee's
allocation will be time well spent.
I want to say how concerned I am by this Administration's handling
of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I am sure you disagree with those
who criticize the Administration for abandoning the Middle East peace
process, but the fact is that neither we, nor Israelis, nor
Palestinians have any reason to believe that President Bush will expend
any political capital to move the process forward any time soon. Not
only does this mean more bloodshed that might be avoided, but we will
not succeed in stopping terrorism as long as we ignore this problem.
You also know of my disappointment about the Administration's new
landmine policy, which amounts to a pledge to get rid of, in 2010, a
type of mine we haven't used since Vietnam, including in Korea. At the
same time, it abandons the commitments I worked out with the Pentagon
six years ago. It is another example, I believe, of unilateral
arrogance in the place of leadership and international cooperation, and
another reason why no one should be surprised by the results of the Pew
survey.
I want to commend you for not certifying that Serbia has cooperated
with the Hague Tribunal. It sent an important message. On the other
hand, I think you made the wrong decision on Colombia. I support
President Uribe, but you have consistently certified Colombia's
performance on human rights despite serious, continuing problems.
Similarly, Charles Taylor must be brought before the Special Court
for Sierra Leone. The United States supported the establishment of the
Court, including proposing and voting for Security Council resolution
1315. The Bush Administration has made an issue about the enforcement
of U.N. resolutions, and the State Department, in a letter to me, said
it is confident that Mr. Taylor will be brought before the Court. We
need to make this happen, sooner rather than later, as the Court could
close down as early as next summer.
Finally, is the issue of corruption. Corruption is like a cancer.
It is the biggest obstacle to development--from Indonesia to Guatemala,
from Nigeria to Pakistan. For years we ignored it. But there are some
leaders who are standing up to it, like President Bolanos of Nicaragua.
I think we should do everything we can to support him and people like
him, and make clear that there are severe consequences for government
officials who engage in this conduct.
Mr. Secretary, despite my disappointment with some of this
Administration's policies, I join others here in commending you and
your staff, who rarely get the credit they deserve.
Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Senator McConnell. Thank you, Senator Leahy. I see that our
full committee chairman is here, Senator Stevens. Do you have
any comments to make, Mr. Chairman?
Senator Stevens. I am here to greet my old friend and
cousin sitting at the table, and I am pleased to listen to him.
Senator McConnell. Let me just inform everybody the vote on
the pensions bill is at 2:45. I think what we will do, Mr.
Secretary, is go ahead and get started.
I am going to catch the vote right at the beginning, and
hopefully we can just plow right on through. So, welcome, and
we will look forward to hearing from you.
SUMMARY STATEMENT OF HON. COLIN L. POWELL
Secretary Powell. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman,
Senator Leahy. Thank you for your welcome and for your opening
remarks.
Uncle Ted, it is always a pleasure to see you in
attendance, sir.
Senator Stevens. Good to see you.
Secretary Powell. Did you get the Flat Stanley picture I
sent you, Uncle? Good.
Senator Stevens. I will tell the committee, he did. He was
gracious enough to have his photo taken with my granddaughter's
Flat Stanley. If you do not know what a Flat Stanley is, go to
his website.
Secretary Powell. To show you how modern we are trying to
be at the State Department, my website has a picture of Senator
Stevens and me and Senator Hollings and a Flat Stanley. For
those of you who do not know what a Flat Stanley is, if you
want to yield any part of your 5 minutes of time, I will be
happy to describe what a Flat Stanley is to you.
But it is a wonderful children's story about a little boy
who gets run over by a steamroller and becomes Flat Stanley,
and who travels all over the world in an envelope. And Senator
Stevens, in the spirit of the Flat Stanley doll, took the Flat
Stanley to Asia on a recent trip.
I met up with the good Senator in Pakistan and we took a
picture of his traveling Stanley, and now children all over the
world are going to the State Department website, www.state.gov
for anybody watching, to take a look at Senator Stevens's Flat
Stanley.
With that serendipitous opening to my presentation, let me
seriously thank all the members of the committee for the
support you have provided to me and to the State Department
over the last 3 years. I feel it is a privilege to be able to
come before you to express my thanks; and also to lay before
you what the President has asked for fiscal year 2005, and what
the needs of the Department and the wonderful men and women of
the Department need to do their jobs for the American people in
fiscal year 2005.
I might, before encapsulating my remarks, just say a word
about Iraq. Senator McConnell, I did see that poll that you
mentioned and they were very interesting numbers. The people of
Iraq, what we want for them--they want for themselves. They
want democracy. They want peace. They are so glad to be rid of
this regime that filled mass graves, that murdered people, that
had rape rooms and torture rooms. And they are through with it
and it isn't coming back.
Now, there are these remnants that will be dealt with and I
can assure you of that. And I will continue, when Senator Leahy
comes back, on the specific comments that the Senator was
asking me about or questions he was posing to me. But for other
members of the committee, let me just get started with my
presentation.
The President's fiscal year 2005 International Affairs
Budget request for the Department of State, USAID, and other
Foreign Affairs agencies totals $31.5 billion, broken down as
follows: Foreign Operations, $21.3 billion; State Operations,
$8.4 billion; Public Law 480 Food Aid, $1.2 billion;
International Broadcasting, $569 million; and the United States
Institute for Peace, $22 million.
WINNING THE WAR ON TERRORISM
President Bush's top foreign policy priority is winning the
war on terrorism. Winning on the battlefield with our superb
military forces is just one part of this strategy. To eradicate
terrorism altogether, the United States must help stable
governments and nations that once supported terrorism, like
Iraq, like Afghanistan; and we must go after terrorist support
mechanisms as well as the terrorists themselves. And we must
help alleviate conditions in the world that enable terrorists
to find and bring in new recruits.
To these ends, the 2005 budget will continue to focus on
the reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan. We will continue to
support our coalition partners to further our counter-
terrorism, law enforcement, and intelligence cooperation. And
we will continue to expand democracy and help generate
prosperity, especially in the Middle East.
Mr. Chairman, 48 percent of the President's Budget for
Foreign Affairs supports the war on terrorism. For example,
$1.2 billion supports Afghanistan reconstruction, security, and
democracy-building activities. More than $5.7 billion provides
assistance to countries around the world that have joined us in
the war on terrorism. Some $3.5 billion indirectly supports the
war on terrorism by strengthening our ability to respond to
emergencies and conflict situations. And finally, $190 million
is aimed at expanding democracy in the Greater Middle East,
which is crucial if we are to attack successfully the
motivation behind people engaging in terrorism.
Mr. Chairman, two of the greatest challenges confronting us
today are the reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan. Let me
begin with Iraq.
Despite the headlines of the last several days, the
Coalition Provisional Authorities (CPA) and the Iraqi Governing
Council have made great strides in the area of security, in the
area of economic stability and growth and democratization.
Iraqi security forces now comprise more than half of the total
security forces in the country.
In addition, the CPA has established a new Iraqi army;
still an army in its infancy but an army that will grow and
become strengthened in the years ahead. They have issued a new
currency, which is very stable, and refurbished and equipped
schools and hospitals throughout the country. And as you know,
the CPA is taking steps to help the Iraqis form a fully
sovereign government this summer. We will keep to this time
table, as the President indicated earlier this week.
But much more work needs to be done. Working with our
coalition partners, we will continue to train Iraqi police,
border guards, the civil defense corps, and the army in order
to ensure the country's security as we effect a timely
transition to democratic self-governance and to a stable
future.
At the same time, we are helping provide critical
infrastructure, including clean water, electricity, reliable
telecommunications systems. These are all essential for meeting
basic human needs, as well as for economic and democratic
development within the country.
As a definitive example of this progress, on March 8, the
Iraqi Governing Council formally signed the Transitional
Administrative Law, essentially an interim constitution for
Iraq, and this was a remarkable milestone. The administrative
law recognizes freedom of religion and expression, the right to
assemble and to organize political parties, and other
fundamentally democratic principles; as well, as at the same
time, prohibiting discrimination of any kind based on gender,
nationality, or religion.
This is a huge step for the people of Iraq and for the
region, a step towards constitutional democracy. It is a step
that just a year ago, Iraqis would not have imagined possible;
and with the poll results, the results that Senator McConnell
mentioned earlier, you can see that they now believe that this
is a real possibility for them in the future.
The United Nations Secretary General's Special Advisor,
Lakhdar Brahimi, is in Iraq now, having been invited to return
by the Interim Governing Council. Working with the CPA, he will
help the Iraqis determine what sort of transitional Iraqi
Government will be developed and to prepare for elections that
will be held at the end of this year or early in the next year.
Creating a democratic government in Iraq will be an
enormous challenge; but Ambassador Bremer, working with the
Iraqi Governing Council, and with the United Nations and our
coalition partners, is committed to success, and when the State
Department assumes the lead role this summer in representing
and managing U.S. interests in Iraq, we will carry on that
commitment.
We are already thoroughly involved. I was in Baghdad 3
weeks ago. I met with Ambassador Bremer, with members of the
Iraqi Governing Council, and spoke to some of our troops as
well. I know how committed we all are, how committed they all
are, and we will succeed.
The recent rise in United States and coalition casualties
is disquieting. We are saddened at every death but we will not
be dissuaded or driven out. Whether we are confronted by an
outlaw and his mobs claiming to themselves the mantle of
religion, or by disgruntled members of the former tyrants'
regime, or by foreign terrorists, we will deal with them.
In that way, we are resolute. And Mr. Chairman, the
coalition is resolute. I believe the vast majority of Iraqis
feel the same way; the polls indicate such. They want
livelihoods. They want security. They want freedom. They want
to strive for their nation's democratic future within the best
traditions of tolerance and harmony. And that is why we will
win.
Mr. Chairman, I know that many of the members are concerned
about the transition from CPA under the Defense Department to a
U.S. mission under the State Department. I can tell you that we
have made significant progress in planning for this transition
and in working on the challenges we will confront.
To make sure we act in accord with your intent, we will be
sending a number of members of my staff to the Congress over
the coming weeks to brief you and to answer your questions.
Before we make our final recommendations to the President, you
will be kept fully informed and your advice and counsel will be
sought.
AFGHANISTAN
Afghanistan is another high priority for this
administration. The United States is committed to helping build
a stable and democratic Afghanistan that is free from terror
and no longer harbors threats to our security. After we and our
coalition partners defeated the Taliban government, we faced
the daunting task of helping the Afghan people rebuild their
country.
We have demonstrated our commitment to this effort by
providing over $3.7 billion in economic and security assistance
for Afghanistan since 2001. Through our assistance and the
assistance of the international community, the Government of
Afghanistan is successfully navigating the transition that
began in October 2001.
Afghanistan adopted a constitution earlier this year and is
preparing for democratic national elections this September.
With technical assistance from the United States, Afghanistan
successfully introduced a new and still stable currency in
October 2002, and is working to improve revenue collection in
the provinces.
The lives of women and girls are improving as women pursue
economic and political opportunities and as girls return to
school. Since 2001, the United States has rehabilitated 205
schools and 140 health clinics, and trained 15 battalions of
the Afghan National Army, battalions that are out now in action
helping to secure the countryside.
Also, President Bush's commitment to de-mine and re-pave
the entire stretch of the Kabul/Kandahar highway was fulfilled.
The road had not been functional for over 20 years. What was
once a 30-hour journey can be accomplished in just 5 or 6
hours.
This fundamentally changes all kinds of dynamics within
Afghanistan. People can move around. The country can be brought
back together with the simple act of completing this road. In
the next building season, we will extend the road out to the
west, as well as to the north, and try to create a ring road in
this Central Asian nation that, then, can connect to the other
Central Asian nations: to Pakistan, and through Pakistan,
ultimately to India, which will put the Silk Road back into
operation after so many years of misuse and no use.
While the Afghanistan of today is very different from the
Afghanistan of September 2001, there is still much left to
accomplish. In the near term, the United States will assist the
Government of Afghanistan in its preparations for elections
this September to ensure that they are free and fair.
The 2005 Budget contains $1.2 billion in assistance for
Afghanistan, as I mentioned; and that money will concentrate on
education, health, infrastructure, and assistance to the Afghan
National Army.
For example, the U.S. assistance efforts will focus on
rehabilitation and construction of an additional 275 schools,
150 health clinics, all by June 2004, and complete equipping of
the 15 Afghan Army battalions, extend the road to Herat, as I
mentioned.
I might also mention that last week I attended a donors
conference on Afghanistan that was hosted by our German friends
in Berlin. There we raised $4.5 billion for President Karzai's
fiscal year budget, 102 percent of what he sought.
So I feel confident of our ability, working with the
international community, to continue making progress in the
reconstruction of that country.
Mr. Chairman, the challenges we face in Iraq and
Afghanistan are hugely complex, daunting and dangerous, and
security and stability are two of our greatest needs. It is
hard to rebuild with one hand and fight off attacks with the
other. But we are making progress and we will continue until we
have reached our objective: two countries that are on their way
to good governance, tolerance, and economic recovery.
HIV/AIDS
Mr. Chairman, as important as waging the war on terrorism
is to America, there are many other priorities that are
contained within this budget that are vital to our foreign
policy agenda. Africa, for example, is high on our foreign
policy agenda, particularly with respect to the devastating
HIV/AIDS pandemic. When people are dying in the millions,
particularly people of working age and younger, it is extremely
difficult to make economic improvements in your society, in
your country. It is President Bush's intent to fight even more
aggressively against the pandemic of HIV/AIDS.
Over the past year, we have worked with Congress to pass
legislation laying the groundwork for this fight. Marking our
progress, last month Ambassador Tobias, Secretary Thompson,
USAID Administrator Natsios and I rolled out the strategy for
this plan and announced the first dispensation of dollars. Some
$350 million is now being applied to the fight by NGOs and
PVOs, private organizations who are working at the grass-roots
level.
As a crucial next step, the 2005 budget request expands on
the President's plan with $2.8 billion to combat AIDS in the
most afflicted countries in Africa and the Caribbean.
Together, the Department of State, USAID and the Department
of Health and Human Services, will use the significantly
increased resources quickly and effectively to achieve the
President's ambitious goals in the fight against global AIDS.
MILLENNIUM CHALLENGE ACCOUNT
Of course, there are other dimensions of economic success
in Africa and around the globe; and they, too, are a part of
our foreign policy agenda. For example, an innovative program,
that you know full well, is the Millennium Challenge Account
(MCA). In February 2003, we sent the Congress a budget request
for the MCA and legislation to authorize creation of a
corporation to administer these monies.
The corporation designed to support our new and innovative
development strategies and to ensure accountability, is now up
and running. And as you know, I am the chairman of the board of
that corporation, Under Secretary Al Larson is the interim CEO,
and Mr. Paul Applegarth has been nominated by the President to
be the approved CEO, and we're waiting for congressional action
on his nomination now.
Congress appropriated $1 billion for MCA for 2004. The 2005
budget request of $2.5 billion makes a significant second year
increase to the MCA, and paves the way to reaching the
President's commitment of $5 billion in 2006. With these
dollars, we will help those countries committed to helping
themselves, commitment demonstrated by the fact that their
governments govern justly, invest in their people, and
encourage economic freedom.
Mr. Chairman, these are two important accounts: the HIV/
AIDS account and the Millennium Challenge Account. We know that
we are asking for significant funding in this second year of
their existence. But the world is watching to see whether we
are serious about HIV/AIDS, whether we are serious about this
new way of providing development assistance. And I strongly
encourage that you approve the amounts requested for both HIV/
AIDS and for the Millennium Challenge Account.
Of course, Mr. Chairman, gentlemen, we can't deal with any
of our foreign policy priorities successfully if State
operations are not funded appropriately. I know that such
operations are not this subcommittee's specific oversight
responsibility, but the full Appropriations Committee will have
to consider this funding.
DIPLOMATIC READINESS INITIATIVE
So, just to touch on a few things that are of interest to
me. First, the Diplomatic Readiness Initiative to hire new
foreign and civil service employees. We have had great success
in getting wonderful young men and women to apply for the
Foreign Service and to come into the Department, and also to
apply for the Civil Service and come into the Department. It is
the first time in years that we invested in the manpower needs
of the Department, and I ask for your continued support for the
Diplomatic Readiness Initiative.
We have also had tremendous success with our information
technology upgrade, and I am very proud of what we have done to
put the internet in every office everywhere in the world that a
State Department officer is located in.
I am also very pleased that we have done a great job in
using the money given to us for securing our embassies. New
embassy construction has been accelerated. We are going to
bring 150 embassies and consulates up to standards over the
next 14 years for a total cost of $17 billion.
We owe our employees a safe environment in which to work,
and we want to do more than just protect the embassy, but
protect some of the other facilities we occupy in the cities in
which we are located, to include schools, places of residence
and other facilities that we use.
Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, let me stop, at
this point. You have my prepared testimony and I am ready for
your questions. But before going to those questions, let me
just say a word about the strategy that we are pursuing in
Iraq, to follow up to Senator Leahy's comments a few moments
ago.
NATO
The strategy has a number of dimensions to it. First of
all, we do believe that the international community must play a
significant and important and vital role in our efforts in
Iraq. If you look at NATO, 17 of the 26 nations of NATO are in
Iraq, standing alongside of us. They can't make as large a
military contribution as we can but they are there within the
limits of their capability. That, I think, is a statement of
the international community.
When I went to NATO last week for meetings, the NAC, North
Atlantic Council, met at the foreign minister level. We talked
about what NATO could do in these two places that are of such
interest to us: Afghanistan and Iraq. In Afghanistan, NATO has
taken over. NATO has shown its willingness to step forward.
NATO is going to expand its presence as we get closer to the
elections.
NATO is also willing to consider a role for itself in Iraq.
Afghanistan is its first priority but they are starting to look
at Iraq. And I think that, in due course, we will be able to
structure a role for NATO that may add to the number of nations
that are there; but more significantly, will give a collective
tone, an alliance tone, to what we are doing.
Exactly what that is going to look like, I cannot tell you
yet. But not one member of the Alliance, not one of the 25
other members of the Alliance, has said, ``No, we will not
consider it.'' Many of them are very enthusiastic about it.
Some who were not with us a year ago--France and Germany,
to be direct--are not opposing a NATO role. They are not sure
whether they would actually send troops or how they might
participate, but they are willing to listen to ideas.
Especially after sovereignty transfers on the 1st of July, I
think all sorts of new opportunities open up for NATO to
participate, as well as, perhaps, other countries and
organizations that are not part of NATO.
We are interested, as we move forward toward the 1st of
July and we get deeper into the process of setting up an
interim government for the Iraqi people, we want the United
Nations to play a more vital and important role.
U.N. RESOLUTION
I have had conversations with the Secretary General about
designating a senior representative of the Secretary General to
perform that role, and we are starting to look at what
resolution might be appropriate: a new U.N. resolution that
would extend a hand to the new Iraqi government, that would
deal with reconstruction activities of the whole international
community, that would encourage other nations to get involved,
that would structure a role for the United Nations.
We are not resisting the United Nations. The President has
said clearly, he has been saying it for quite a while, we want
the United Nations to play a ``vital role.'' And we spend a
great deal of time with the United Nations. I spoke to Lakhdar
Brahimi this morning to see how he was doing in Baghdad, and
his conversations with respect to the creation of an interim
government.
So, we want the international community to be involved. We
are working on it. The President speaks to the American people
on a regular basis about what his intentions are with respect
to Iraq.
It is a challenging environment right now because of these
remnants, these terrorists, these individuals who do not want
to see the Iraqi people achieve their dreams. They are not in
this 70 percent and 56 percent and 71 percent you talk about,
Senator McConnell, but we are doing this for that 70 percent,
for that 56 percent and for that 71 percent. They deserve it
and we are going to see that they get it. And we are not alone.
PREPARED STATEMENT
We have coalition partners with us who are staying the
course, even under the most difficult set of circumstances. And
I think that over the next days and weeks, you will see that
our superb armed forces will deal with the threats they are
facing now. And when these insurgents have been cleared away,
and then we can get back on track and continue the work that we
have laid out: the creation of an interim government, a U.N.
resolution, involvement of NATO and other organizations in
transition from a CPA to an American mission.
Mr. Chairman, members of the committee, let me stop at that
point and make myself available for your questions.
[The statement follows:]
Prepared Statement of Hon. Colin L. Powell
Mr. Chairman, members of the subcommittee, thank you for the
opportunity to testify on the State Department's portion of the
President's Budget Request for fiscal year 2005. Let me give you the
overall budget picture first and, then, outline our foreign policy
priorities. Finally, because the Department cannot carry out its
foreign policy function without adequate funding for its own
operations, I want to give you a summary of our highest priorities for
State operations.
The President's fiscal year 2005 International Affairs Budget for
the Department of State, USAID, and other foreign affairs agencies
totals $31.5 billion, broken down as follows:
--Foreign Operations--$211.3 billion
--State Operations--$8.4 billion
--Public Law 480 Food Aid--$1.2 billion
--International Broadcasting--$569 million
--U.S. Institute of Peace--$22 million
Mr. Chairman, the President's top foreign policy priority is
winning the war on terrorism. Forty-eight percent of the President's
budget for foreign affairs directly supports that priority by assisting
our allies and strengthening the United States' diplomatic posture. For
example: $1.2 billion supports Afghanistan reconstruction, security and
democracy building, and more than $5.7 billion is provided for
assistance to countries around the world that have joined us in the war
on terrorism, and $3.5 billion indirectly supports the war on terrorism
by strengthening our ability to respond to emergencies and conflict
situations. Moreover, $190 million is aimed at expanding democracy in
the Greater Middle East, in part to help alleviate the conditions that
spawn terrorists.
In addition, $5.3 billion is targeted for the President's bold
initiatives to fight HIV/AIDS and create the Millennium Challenge
Corporation, both of which will support stability and improve the
quality of life for the world's poor--and, again, help to relieve
conditions that cause resentment and despair.
Mr. Chairman, let me elaborate on how some of these dollars will be
spent.
winning the war on terrorism
Winning on the battlefield with our superb military forces is just
one step in defeating terrorism. To eradicate terrorism, the United
States must help create stable governments in nations that once
supported terrorism, go after terrorist support mechanisms as well as
the terrorists themselves, and help alleviate conditions in the world
that enable terrorists to bring in new recruits. To this end, in fiscal
year 2005 the State Department and USAID will continue to focus on the
reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan, support our coalition partners
to further our counterterrorism, law enforcement and intelligence
cooperation, and expand democracy and help generate prosperity,
especially in the Middle East.
Building a Free and Prosperous Iraq
The United States faces one of its greatest challenges in
developing a secure, free and prosperous Iraq. The USG is contributing
almost $21 billion in reconstruction funds and humanitarian assistance
to this effort. The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund are
expected to provide another $4 to $8 billion in loans and grants over
the next three years. These resources, coupled with the growing
assistance of international donors, will ease the transition from
dictatorship to democracy and lay the foundation for a market economy
and a political system that respects human rights and represents the
voices of all Iraqis.
The Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) and the Iraqi Governing
Council (IGC) have made great strides in the areas of security,
economic stability and growth, and democratization. Iraqi security
forces now comprise more than half of the total security forces in the
country. In addition, the CPA has established a New Iraqi Army, issued
a new currency and refurbished and equipped schools and hospitals. And,
as you know, the CPA is taking steps to help the Iraqi people form a
fully sovereign government this summer.
Much work remains to be done. Working with our coalition partners,
we will continue to train Iraqi police, border guards, the Civil
Defense Corps and the Army in order to ensure the country's security as
we effect a timely transition to democratic self-governance and a
stable future.
At the same time, we are helping provide critical infrastructure,
including clean water, electricity and reliable telecommunications
systems which are essential for meeting basic human needs as well as
for economic and democratic development. Thousands of brave Americans,
in uniform and in mufti, are in Iraq now working tirelessly to help
Iraqis succeed in this historic effort. Alongside their military
colleagues, USAID, State Department and the Departments of the Treasury
and Commerce are working to implement infrastructure, democracy
building, education, health and economic development programs. These
efforts are producing real progress in Iraq.
As a definitive example of this progress, on March 8, the IGC
formally signed the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL)--essentially
an interim constitution for Iraq. This was a remarkable milestone. The
TAL recognizes freedom of religion and expression, the right to
assemble and to organize political parties, and other fundamentally
democratic principles, as well as prohibiting discrimination based on
gender, nationality or religion. This is a huge step for the people of
Iraq and for the region--a step toward constitutional democracy. It is
a step that just a year ago, Iraqis would not have imagined possible.
The U.N. Secretary General's Special Advisor, Lakhdar Brahimi, is
in Iraq now to help the Iraqis determine what sort of transitional
Iraqi government will be developed and to prepare for elections at the
end of this year or early in the next. Creating a democratic government
in Iraq will be an enormous challenge--the recent increase in
casualties magnifying that challenge. But Ambassador Bremer, working
with the Iraq Governing Council and with the United Nations and our
coalition partners, is committed to success. And when the CPA, funded
and directed by the Department of Defense, goes out of business on June
30 and the State Department assumes the lead role in representing and
managing U.S. interests in Iraq, we will carry on that commitment. We
are already thoroughly involved. I was just in Baghdad last month
meeting with Ambassador Bremer, members of the IGC, and talking to some
of our troops. I know how thoroughly involved we are. And we will all
succeed.
I also know that many of the members are concerned about the
transition from CPA under the Defense Department to a U.S. Mission
under the State Department. I can tell you that we have made
significant progress in planning for this transition and in working on
the challenges we will confront. To make sure we act in accord with
your intent, we will be sending a number of people to the Congress over
the coming weeks to brief and to answer your questions. Before we make
recommendations to the President, you will be kept fully informed and
your advice and counsel will be sought.
Mr. Chairman, the recent rise in United States and coalition
casualties in Iraq is disquieting and we are saddened at every death.
But we will not be dissuaded or driven out. Whether we are confronted
by an outlaw and his mobs claiming to themselves the mantle of
religion, or by disgruntled members of the former tyrant's regime, or
by foreign terrorists, we will deal with them. In that we are resolute.
And Mr. Chairman, the coalition is resolute. I believe the vast
majority of Iraqis feel the same way. They want livelihoods, security,
freedom and the right to strive for their nation's democratic future
within the best Iraqi traditions of tolerance and harmony. And that is
why we will win.
Winning the Peace in Afghanistan
Mr. Chairman, Afghanistan is another high priority for this
Administration. The United States is committed to helping build a
stable and democratic Afghanistan that is free from terror and no
longer harbors threats to our security. After we and our coalition
partners defeated the Taliban government, we faced the daunting task of
helping the Afghan people rebuild their country. We have demonstrated
our commitment to this effort by providing over $3.7 billion in
economic and security assistance to Afghanistan since 2001.
Through our assistance and the assistance of the international
community, the government of Afghanistan is successfully navigating the
transition that began in October 2001. Afghanistan adopted a
constitution earlier this year and is preparing for democratic national
elections in September. With technical assistance from the United
States, Afghanistan successfully introduced a new stable currency in
October 2002 and is working to improve revenue collection in the
provinces. The lives of women and girls are improving as women pursue
economic and political opportunities and girls return to school. Since
2001, the United States has rehabilitated 205 schools and 140 health
clinics and trained fifteen battalions of the Afghan National Army
(ANA). Also, President Bush's commitment to de-mine and repave the
entire stretch of the Kabul-Kandahar highway was fulfilled. The road
had not been functional for over 20 years. What was once a 30-hour
journey can now be accomplished in 5 or 6 hours.
While the Afghanistan of today is very different from the
Afghanistan of September 2001, there is still much left to accomplish.
In the near-term, the United States will assist the government of
Afghanistan in its preparations for elections in September to ensure
that they are free and fair. To demonstrate tangible benefits to the
Afghan people, we will continue to implement assistance on an
accelerated basis. The fiscal year 2005 Budget contains $1.2 billion in
assistance for Afghanistan that will be focused on education, health,
infrastructure, and assistance to the ANA, including drawdown authority
and Department of Defense ``train and equip''. For example, U.S.
assistance efforts will concentrate on rehabilitation and construction
of an additional 275 schools and 150 health clinics by June 2004, and
complete equipping of the fifteen army battalions. The United States
will also extend the Kabul-Kandahar road to Herat so that people and
commerce will be linked East and West across Afghanistan with a ground
transportation link between three of the largest cities.
Near the end of last month, when I was in Kabul to meet with
President Karzai and his team, I had the chance to visit a voter
registration site. I saw how far Afghanistan has progressed, in only
two years, along the path to constitutional democracy. I saw also clear
evidence of the Afghan people's commitment to continue on that path
despite the many challenges ahead. I met 9 or 10 women at the site and
they knew what was at stake in their country. They were eager for the
free and fair elections called for in the Bonn Agreement and I assured
them that America was solidly behind them. I told them that as long as
they are committed to building a new, democratic Afghanistan, we will
stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
In that regard, Mr. Chairman, last week I attended the Berlin
Afghanistan Conference. There, we raised $4.5 billion for President
Karzai's fiscal year budget--102 percent of what was sought. So I feel
confident of our ability to continue making progress in the
reconstruction of that country.
Support for Our Coalition Partners
As part of the war on terrorism, President Bush established a clear
policy to work with other nations to meet the challenges of defeating
terror networks with global reach. This commitment extends to the
front-line states that have joined us in the war on terrorism and to
those nations that are key to successful transitions to democracy in
Iraq and Afghanistan.
Our assistance enables countries cooperating closely with the
United States to prevent future attacks, improve counter-terrorism
capabilities and tighten border controls. As I indicated earlier, the
fiscal year 2005 Budget for International Affairs provides more than
$5.7 billion for assistance to countries around the world that have
joined us in the war on terrorism, including Turkey, Jordan,
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia, and the Philippines.
U.S. assistance has also resulted in unparalleled law enforcement
and intelligence cooperation that has destroyed terrorist cells,
disrupted terrorist operations and prevented attacks. There are many
counterterrorism successes in cooperating countries and international
organizations. For example:
--Pakistan has apprehended more than 500 al Qaeda terrorists and
members of the Taliban through the leadership of President
Musharraf, stronger border security measures and law
enforcement cooperation throughout the country. Last month, Mr.
Chairman, you no doubt noted the fierce fighting in the border
area between Pakistan and Afghanistan and the casualties
inflicted on the Pakistanis as they took the fight to the al
Qaida and other terrorists in those areas. Pakistan is in this
struggle for the long-haul.
--Jordan continues its strong counterterrorism efforts, including
arresting two individuals with links to al Qaeda who admitted
responsibility for the October 2002 murder of USAID Foreign
Service officer Lawrence Foley in Amman.
--The North Atlantic Treaty Organization has endorsed an ambitious
transformation agenda designed to enhance its capabilities by
increasing deployment speed and agility to address new threats
of terrorism.
--Colombia has developed a democratic security strategy as a
blueprint for waging a unified, aggressive counterterror-
counternarcotics campaign against designated foreign terrorist
organizations and other illegal, armed groups.
--The United States and its Southeast Asian allies and friends have
made significant advances against the regional terrorist
organization Jemaah Islamiyah which was responsible for the
Bali attack in 2002 that killed more than 200 people. In early
August 2003, an Indonesian court convicted and sentenced to
death a key figure in that bombing.
Since September 11, 2001, 173 countries have issued orders to
freeze the assets of terrorists. As a result, terror networks have lost
access to nearly $200 million in more than 1,400 terrorist-related
accounts around the world. The World Bank, International Monetary Fund
and other multilateral development banks have also played an important
role in this fight by strengthening international defenses against
terrorist finance.
While progress has been made attacking terrorist organizations both
globally and regionally, much work remains to be done. The fiscal year
2005 President's Budget strengthens our financial commitment to our
coalition partners to wage the global war on terror. Highlights of the
President's request include $700 million for Pakistan to help advance
security and economic opportunity for Pakistan's citizens, including a
multi-year educational support program; $461 million for Jordan to
increase economic opportunities for Jordanian communities and
strengthen Jordan's ability to secure its borders; and $577 million for
Colombia to support President Uribe's unified campaign against drugs
and terrorism.
In September 2003, at the United Nations, President Bush said:
``All governments that support terror are complicit in a war against
civilization. No government should ignore the threat of terror, because
to look the other way gives terrorists the chance to regroup and
recruit and prepare. And all nations that fight terror, as if the lives
of their own people depend on it, will earn the favorable judgment of
history.'' We are helping countries to that judgment.
Mr. Chairman, one of the aspects of the War on Terrorism that gives
us a particular sense of urgency is proliferation of weapons of mass
destruction. These terrible weapons are becoming easier to acquire,
build, hide, and transport.
On February 11, President Bush spoke at the National Defense
University (NDU) and outlined the Administration's approach to this
growing danger. The President described how we have worked for years to
uncover one particular nefarious network--that of A.Q. Khan.
Men and women of our own and other intelligence services have done
superb and often very dangerous work to disclose these operations to
the light of day. Now, we and our friends and allies are working around
the clock to get all the details of this network and to shut it down,
permanently
We know that this network fed nuclear technology to Libya, Iran,
and North Korea.
At NDU, President Bush proposed seven measures to strengthen the
world's efforts to prevent the spread of WMD:
--Expand the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI) to address more
than shipments and transfers; even to take direct action
against proliferation networks.
--Call on all nations to strengthen the laws and international
controls that govern proliferation, including passing the UNSCR
requiring all states to criminalize proliferation, enact strict
export controls, and secure sensitive materials.
--Expand our efforts to keep Cold War weapons and other dangerous
materials out of the hands of terrorists--efforts such as those
accomplished under Nunn-Lugar.
--Close the loophole in the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty that
allows states such as Iran to produce nuclear material that can
be used to build bombs under the cover of civilian nuclear
programs.
--Universalize the IAEA Additional Protocol.
--Create a special committee on the IAEA Board of Governors to focus
on safeguards and verification.
--And, finally, disallow countries under investigation for violating
nuclear nonproliferation treaties from serving on the IAEA
Board of Governors.
As the President said at NDU, the nexus of terrorists and WMD is a
new and unique threat. It comes not with ships and fighters and tanks
and divisions, but clandestinely, in the dark of the night. But the
consequences are devastating. No President can afford to ignore such a
threat. And President Bush will not ignore it.
Expansion of Democracy in the Middle East
We believe that expanding democracy in the Middle East is critical
to eradicating international terrorism. But in many nations of the
Middle East, democracy is at best an unwelcome guest and at worst a
total stranger. The United States continues to increase its diplomatic
and assistance activities in the Middle East to promote democratic
voices--focusing particularly on women--in the political process,
support increased accountability in government, assist local efforts to
strengthen respect for the rule of law, assist independent media, and
invest in the next generation of leaders.
As the President emphasized in his speech last November at the
National Endowment for Democracy (NED), reform in the Middle East is of
vital importance to the future of peace and stability in that region as
well as to the national security of the United States. As long as
freedom and democracy do not flourish in the Middle East, resentment
and despair will continue to grow--and the region will serve as an
exporter of violence and terror to free nations. For the United States,
promoting democracy and freedom in the Middle East is a difficult, yet
essential calling.
There are promising developments upon which to build. The
government of Jordan, for example, is committed to accelerating reform.
Results include free and fair elections, three women holding Cabinet
Minister positions for the first time in Jordan's history, and major
investments in education. Positive developments also can be found in
Morocco, which held parliamentary elections last year that were
acclaimed as free, fair and transparent.
In April 2003, the Administration launched the Middle East
Partnership Initiative (MEPI), an intensive inter-agency effort to
support political and education reform and economic development in the
region. The President continues his commitment by providing $150
million in fiscal year 2005 for these efforts.
To enhance this USG effort with a key NGO, the President has
doubled the NED budget to $80 million specifically to create a Greater
Middle East Leadership and Democracy Initiative. NED is a leader in
efforts to strengthen democracy and tolerance around the world through
its work with civil society. We want that work to flourish.
As President Bush said in his November speech at NED: ``The United
States has adopted a new policy, a forward strategy of freedom in the
Middle East. This strategy requires the same persistence and energy and
idealism we have shown before. And it will yield the same results. As
in Europe, as in Asia, as in every region of the world, the advance of
freedom leads to peace.''
Public Diplomacy in the Middle East
And the advance of freedom is aided decisively by the words of
freedom.
Democracy flourishes with freedom of information and exposure to
diverse ideas. The President's fiscal year 2005 Budget promotes
expansion of democracy in the Middle East by providing public access to
information through exchange programs and the Middle East Television
Network.
New public diplomacy efforts including the Partnerships for
Learning (P4L) and Youth Exchange and Study (YES) initiatives have been
created to reach a younger and more diverse audience through academic
and professional exchange programs. In fiscal year 2005, the P4L and
the YES programs, funded at $61 million, will focus more on youth of
the Muslim world, specifically targeting non-traditional, non-elite,
often female and non-English speaking youth.
U.S. broadcasting initiatives in the Middle East encourage the
development of a free press in the American tradition and provide
Middle Eastern viewers and listeners access to a variety of ideas. The
United States revamped its Arabic radio broadcasts in 2002 with the
introduction of Radio Sawa, which broadcasts to the region 24 hours a
day. As a result, audience size for our Arabic broadcasting increased
from under 2 percent in 2001 to over 30 percent in 2003. Based on this
successful model, the United States introduced Radio Farda to broadcast
to Iran around the clock. Building on this success, the fiscal year
2005 President's budget request provides over $70 million for Arabic
and Persian radio and television broadcasts to the Middle East. In
February, the United States launched the Middle East Television
Network, an Arabic language satellite network that will have the
capability of reaching millions of viewers and will provide a means for
Middle Easterners to better understand democracy and free market
policies, as well as the United States and its people. This network
kicked off on February 14 with 9 hours per day of broadcasting. Now the
broadcasting is 24/7. The network--Al-Hurra, or ``the Free One''--
reaches 22 countries, including Iraq. President Bush has already
appeared on the network and I did an interview in late February.
our new approach to global prosperity
President Bush's approach to global economic growth emphasizes
proven American values: governing justly, investing in people, and
encouraging economic freedom. President Bush has pledged to increase
economic engagement with and support for countries that commit to these
goals through an ambitious trade agenda and new approaches to
development assistance focusing on country performance and measurable
results.
The Millennium Challenge Account (MCA)
In February 2003, we sent the Congress a budget request for the MCA
and legislation to authorize the creation of the Millennium Challenge
Corporation (MCC), the agency designed to support innovative
development strategies and to ensure accountability for results.
The MCC will fund only proposals for grants that have clear,
measurable objectives, a sound financial plan and indicators for
assessing progress.
The Congress appropriated $1 billion for MCA for fiscal year 2004.
The fiscal year 2005 Budget request of $2.5 billion makes a significant
second year increase to the MCA and paves the way to reaching the
President's commitment of $5 billion in fiscal year 2006.
Trade Promotion Authority (TPA)
President Bush recognizes that the fastest, surest way to move from
poverty to prosperity is through expanded and freer trade. America and
the world benefit from free trade. For this reason, one of his first
actions upon taking office in 2001 was to seek TPA, allowing him to
negotiate market-opening agreements with other countries. The President
aims to continue vigorously to pursue his free trade agenda in order to
lift developing countries out of poverty, while creating high-paying
job opportunities for America's workers, businesses, farmers and
ranchers and benefiting all Americans through lower prices and wider
choices. As the President said in April 2001 at the Organization of
American States: ``Open trade fuels the engines of economic growth that
creates new jobs and new income. It applies the power of markets to the
needs of the poor. It spurs the process of economic and legal reform.
It helps dismantle protectionist bureaucracies that stifle incentive
and invite corruption. And open trade reinforces the habits of liberty
that sustain democracy over the long term.''
Since receiving TPA in 2002, the President has made good on his
promise, completing free trade agreements with Chile and Singapore,
which were quickly approved by Congress and went into effect on January
1. We have recently completed negotiations with five Central American
countries on the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) and our
work to bring the Dominican Republic (DR) into that agreement concluded
successfully on March 14 with the signing of an FTA with that country.
Now, the DR can join CAFTA. In February, we announced the conclusion of
an agreement with Australia. More recently, negotiations have been
completed with Morocco and an agreement announced, and negotiations are
ongoing with the Southern African Customs Union (SACU), Bahrain, and on
the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas (FTAA). We are concluding
comprehensive agreements that include market access for goods and
services, strong intellectual property and investment provisions, and
include commitments for strong environmental and labor protections by
our partners. These arrangements benefit Americans and our trading
partners.
Building on this significant progress, the President intends to
launch free trade negotiations with Thailand, Panama, and the Andean
countries of Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia and Peru. The President has
also stated his vision for a Middle East Free Trade Area by 2013, to
ignite economic growth and expand opportunity in this critical region.
Finally, the President is committed to wrapping up successfully the
World Trade Organization's Doha agenda. The United States has taken the
lead in re-energizing these negotiations following the Cancun
Ministerial.
caring for the world's most vulnerable people
Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief
When President Bush took office in January 2001, the HIV/AIDS
pandemic was at an all time high, with the estimated number of adults
and children living with HIV/AIDS globally at 37 million, with 68
percent of those individuals living in sub-Saharan Africa. From fiscal
years 1993 to 2001 the total U.S. Government global AIDS budget was
about $1.9 billion. As part of the Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, the
President proposed $2 billion in fiscal year 2004 as the first
installment of a 5-year, $15 billion initiative, surpassing nine years
of funding in a single year. The President's Emergency Plan for AIDS
Relief represents the single largest international public health
initiative ever attempted to defeat a disease. The President's Plan
targets an unprecedented level of assistance to the 14 most afflicted
countries in Africa and the Caribbean to wage and win the war against
HIV/AIDS. In addition, programs will continue in 75 other countries.
By 2008, we believe the President's Plan will prevent seven million
new infections, treat two million HIV-infected people, and care for 10
million HIV-infected individuals and those orphaned by AIDS in
Botswana, Cote d'Ivoire, Ethiopia, Guyana, Haiti, Kenya, Mozambique,
Namibia, Nigeria, Rwanda, South Africa, Tanzania, Uganda, and Zambia.
Announced during President Bush's State of the Union address on
January 28, 2003, the Emergency Plan provides $15 billion over five
years for those countries hardest hit by the pandemic, including $1
billion for the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria.
The fiscal year 2005 Budget provides $2.8 billion from State, USAID,
and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to combat global
AIDS, more than tripling funding for international HIV/AIDS since the
President took office.
Over the past year, we have worked with the Congress to pass
legislation laying the groundwork for this effort and to appoint a
senior official at the State Department to coordinate all U.S.
Government international HIV/AIDS activities. Ambassador Randall Tobias
has been confirmed by Congress and has now taken steps to assure
immediate relief to the selected countries.
On February 23, Ambassador Tobias, Secretary Thompson, USAID
Administrator Andrew Natsios, and I rolled out the strategy for this
plan and announced the first dispensation of dollars--$350 million in
contracts to some of the NGOs and PVOs who will be carrying out the
fight at the grass-roots level. It was a thrilling moment, I can assure
you.
As a crucial next step, the fiscal year 2005 Budget Request expands
on the Emergency Plan. By working together as a highly collaborative
team, and placing primary ownership of these efforts in the hands of
the countries that we are helping--just as you will recall the Marshall
Plan did so successfully in post-WW II Europe--the Department of State,
USAID and HHS can use significantly increased resources quickly and
effectively to achieve the President's ambitious goals in the fight
against global AIDS.
Mr. Chairman, President Bush summed it up this way in April of last
year, ``There are only two possible responses to suffering on this
scale. We can turn our eyes away in resignation and despair, or we can
take decisive, historic action to turn the tide against this disease
and give the hope of life to millions who need our help now. The United
States of America chooses the path of action and the path of hope.''
These dollars put us squarely on that path.
Emergency Humanitarian Assistance--Helping Others in Need
The President's Budget Request reflects a continued commitment to
humanitarian assistance. The request maintains U.S. leadership in
providing food and non-food assistance to refugees, internally
displaced persons, and other vulnerable people in all corners of the
world. In addition, the budget reflects the findings of the Program
Assessment Rating Tool (PART) evaluations completed for the United
Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and for USAID's Public Law 480
Title II international food assistance, which confirmed a clear purpose
for these programs.
In 2003, the Administration provided funding to several
international and non-governmental organizations to assist nearly
200,000 Angolan refugees and internally displaced persons return home
after decades of civil war.
In an Ethiopia enveloped by drought, the Administration led
international efforts to prevent widespread famine among 13 million
vulnerable people, providing over one million metric tons of emergency
food aid (valued at nearly half a billion dollars) to the World Food
Program and NGOs, funding immunizations for weakened children, and
supplying emergency seeds to farmers.
In Sudan, the Administration worked with the United Nations and the
Government of Sudan so that vital assistance could be delivered to the
Sudanese people. This year the United States will provide about $210
million in vital assistance to the people in the south, including
approximately 125,000 metric tons (valued at nearly $115 million) in
food aid, as well as non-food assistance, such as sanitation and water.
We anticipate that a comprehensive peace agreement in Sudan will allow
us to expand significantly our development assistance to help the
Sudanese people in effecting a long-awaited recovery following decades
of civil war. The fiscal year 2005 Budget includes $436 million in
humanitarian and development, economic, and security assistance
funding, much of which will be contingent upon a peace settlement
between the government and the south.
The fiscal year 2005 Budget ensures that the Administration can
continue to respond quickly and appropriately to victims of conflict
and natural disasters and to help those in greatest need of food,
shelter, health care and other essential assistance, including those in
areas starting to recover from conflict and war, such as Liberia. In
particular, the budget requests funding for a flexible account to give
the President the ability to respond to unforeseen emergency needs, the
Emergency Fund for Complex Foreign Crises, funded at $100 million.
Mr. Chairman, I know State Operations are not a part of this
subcommittee's specific oversight responsibilities, but funding these
operations is essential to our being able to carry out America's
foreign policy. So let me turn briefly to the State Department
operations portion of the President's Budget Request which, as you will
recall, totals $8.4 billion.
keeping americans safe at home and abroad
The State Department has the responsibility to protect more than
60,000 U.S. Government employees who work in embassies and consulates
abroad. Since the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in East Africa,
the State Department has improved physical security overseas; however,
as many of you are well aware, many posts are still not secure enough
to withstand terrorist attacks and other dangers. To correct this
problem, in 1999, the State Department launched a security upgrade and
construction program to begin to address requirements in our more than
260 embassies and consulates.
Capital Security Cost Sharing Program
Working with the Congress, President Bush has accelerated the pace
of improving and building new secure facilities. Moreover, we have
reorganized our Overseas Buildings Operations to manage the effort with
speed, efficiency, and effectiveness. Within the budget, we are
launching a plan to replace the remaining 150 embassies and consulates
that do not meet current security standards over the next 14 years, for
a total cost of $17.5 billion. To fund construction of these new
embassy compounds, we will begin the Capital Security Cost Sharing
(CSCS) Program in fiscal year 2005. We will implement this program in
phases over the next five years.
Each agency with staff overseas will contribute annually towards
construction of the new facilities based on the number of positions and
the type of space they occupy. We arrived at the cost shares in the
fiscal year 2005 President's Budget Request in consultations with each
agency and the State Department's Overseas Buildings Operations.
CSCS is also a major component of the President's Management Agenda
Initiative on Rightsizing. Along with securing facilities, we have
focused on assuring that overseas staffing is deployed where they are
most needed to serve U.S. interests. As agencies assess the real cost
of maintaining staff overseas, they will adjust their overseas staffing
levels. In this way, new embassies will be built to suit appropriate
staffing levels. The program is already producing rightsizing results.
Agencies are taking steps to eliminate unfilled positions from their
books to reduce any unnecessary CSCS charges, which in turn is leading
to smaller embassy construction requirements.
Border Security
Prior to September 11, 2001, the State Department's consular
officers focused primarily on screening applicants based on whether
they intended to work or reside legally in the United States. In
deciding who should receive a visa, consular officers relied on State
Department information systems as the primary basis for identifying
potential terrorists. The State Department gave overseas consular
officers the discretion to determine the level of scrutiny that should
be applied to visa applications and encouraged the streamlining of
procedures.
Today, Consular Affairs at the State Department, working with both
Customs and Border Protection and the Bureau of Citizenship and
Immigration Services at the Department of Homeland Security, are
cooperating to achieve our goals more effectively by sharing
information and integrating information systems.
The Department of State has invested substantial time, money, and
effort in revamping its visa and passport process as well as its
provision of American Citizen Services. The Department has more than
doubled its database holdings on individuals who should not be issued
visas, increased training for all consular officers, established
special programs to vet applications more comprehensively, increased
the number of skilled, American staff working in consular sections
overseas, and improved data-sharing among agencies. The State
Department, along with the Department of Homeland Security, is
currently developing biometrics, such as fingerprints, digital
photographs or iris scans, for both visas and passports in order to
fulfill requirements of the Patriot and Border Security Acts and the
International Civil Aviation Organization.
As a part of the State Department's efforts to screen visa
applicants more effectively, and in particular to ensure that a
suspected terrorist does not receive a visa to enter the United States,
we will be an active partner in the Terrorist Screening Center (TSC).
The TSC, established in December 2003, will maintain a single,
consolidated watchlist of terrorist suspects to be shared with Federal,
state, local and private entities in accordance with applicable law.
The Department of State will also participate in the Terrorist Threat
Integration Center (TTIC), a joint-effort aimed at reducing the
potential of intelligence gaps domestically and abroad.
To achieve our goal of secure borders and open doors, in fiscal
year 2005 the State Department plans to expand the use of biometrics to
improve security in the visa and passport processes; more effectively
fill gaps worldwide by hiring people with specific skills including
language expertise; improve and maintain all consular systems; and more
broadly expand data sharing with all agencies with border control or
immigration related responsibilities. The budget in fiscal year 2005
includes $175 million for biometric projects including photographs and
fingerprints to comply with Border Security and Patriot Acts.
The Border Security program underwent a PART analysis in the
development of the fiscal year 2004 and fiscal year 2005 budgets and
this budget request reflects the results of those analyses. The
Department is moving ahead on program management improvements that
clearly link to the Department of Homeland Security goals related to
visa policy.
The Critical Importance of Diplomatic Readiness
You will recall, Mr. Chairman, members of the subcommittee, that we
created the Diplomatic Readiness Initiative (DRI) in 2002 to address
staffing and training gaps that had become very adverse to the conduct
of America's diplomacy. The goal of DRI was to hire 1,158 new foreign
and civil service employees over a three-year period. These new hires,
the first over-attrition hires in years, would allow us to provide
training opportunities for our people and greatly improve the
Department's ability to respond to crises and emerging priorities
overseas and at critical domestic locations. To bring these new people
on board--and to select the best men and women possible--we
significantly improved Department hiring processes, to include
recruiting personnel from more diverse experience and cultural
backgrounds and people who could fill critical skill gaps. In the
process, we broke records in recruiting and thus had the best and the
brightest from which to select. The Department of State will be reaping
the benefits from this process for many years to come. We also created
new mandatory leadership and management training, enhanced public
diplomacy and consular training, and made significant increases in the
amount of language training available for new Foreign Service Officers.
DRI hiring has supported the Department's efforts in responding to
crises since September 11 and provided the additional resources
necessary to staff overseas locations that truly represent the front
line in the war on terrorism.
Some of these positions, however, are being diverted to support new
requirements not envisioned by DRI, such as permanently staffing new
embassies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, and possibly in Libya. Because
of this, the fiscal year 2005 Budget Request provides additional
resources to continue our DRI commitment.
DRI has allowed the Department to focus on recruiting, training and
retaining a high quality work force, sized to requirements that can
respond more flexibly to the dynamic and demanding world in which we
live. We need to continue it.
USAID has begun a similar effort to address gaps in staffing in
technical skills, calling it the Development Readiness Initiative.
USAID plans to hire approximately 40 Foreign Service Officers in fiscal
year 2004 under this initiative. This Budget Request includes authority
for USAID to hire up to 50 additional Foreign Service Officers in
fiscal year 2005, in order to fill critical skill gaps identified
through a comprehensive workforce analysis.
Mr. Chairman, I have focussed your attention for long enough. There
is more in the President's Budget Request for fiscal year 2005; but
what I have outlined above represents the top priorities for the State
Department. I will be pleased to answer any questions you have about
these priorities or about any other portion of the budget request in
which you are interested. If I cannot answer the question myself, I
have a Department full of great people who can; and I will get you an
answer for the record.
Thank you.
Senator McConnell. Mr. Secretary, I have one member here
who has severe constraints on time. I am going to go out of
order and let the Senator from Pennsylvania have one question,
because I understand he will not be able to return. Senator
Specter.
Senator Specter. Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman
for yielding to me, and thank you, Mr. Secretary, for the
outstanding job you have done in providing real balance on our
foreign policy. I will be submitting questions for the record
on Iraq, Iran, AIDS, terrorism, the Saudi Accountability Act.
But in your opening comments, you did not make any reference to
the situation in Israel. And I note that there is a request for
$2.6 billion.
ISRAEL FENCE
My question to you relates to the fence and Israel's
assertion of its right to make decisions on its own national
security as it sees fit. And my question is: What is the
administration view on Israel's sole determination of the
fence? And are there--is there any thinking about restricting
any aid or foreign loan guarantees or any other financial
support to Israel by virtue of what Israel is doing with the
fence?
Secretary Powell. Well, as you know, Senator Specter, we do
have a policy of discussing with Israel their settlement
activities and some restrictions on loans as a result of
settlement activities.
With respect to the fence, Israel has a right to build a
fence to protect itself if it feels that is what it needs to
keep the terrorists from getting into Israel. We have expressed
concern to the Israelis over time about the route of the fence
and whether it intrudes into Palestinian territory more deeply
than is necessary for the legitimate right of self-defense.
The Israelis have made some adjustments to the fence over
time and they have taken the fence down in some places once
they have had a chance to take a second look at the impact that
the fence has had. But at the moment we do not have any plans
to dock them over the route of the fence.
Senator Specter. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator McConnell. Mr. Secretary, one of our colleagues
just recently compared Iraq to Vietnam. You served in Vietnam.
Are there any similarities?
Secretary Powell. Not in my judgment, Senator. And I do not
think these kinds of comparisons are terribly helpful. Vietnam
was another part of the world, another time in history; and we
ought to see the situation for what it is today and not try to
find comparisons that can then be painted in a negative light.
I think this is quite different. I think that we have an
Army over there that knows what it is doing. We have a people
that want to be free and in a democratic society. We do not
have huge state sponsors outside of Iraq flooding the place
with weaponry and manpower of any kind. And I think it is not a
swamp that is going to devour us.
It is a problem that is solvable and manageable and we need
to stay the course and not contaminate the good work we are
doing by comparisons to Vietnam.
Senator McConnell. What kind of entity will we be handing
authority to on July 1?
Secretary Powell. It has not been determined yet. As you
know, we have a governing council now. One model says leave it
as it is. Another model says expand it to give it broader
representation.
There are other ideas that say, maybe you should try to
have some sort of mini-Loya/Jirga-like process such as
Afghanistan but on a smaller scale, although there is not quite
a tradition of that in Iraq. Or a Shira, some sort of meeting
where people would elect their representatives.
So Ambassador Brahimi is looking at all of these, along
with Ambassador Bremer and his staff and my staff; but no
decisions have been made yet as to which one of these models
will be settled upon.
I think the model that is getting the most attention right
now and seems the most practical one in terms of the time
available to us would be some form of expanded governing
council; but that is just sort of the lead horse at the moment.
No decisions have been made.
Senator McConnell. Until recently, the Shi'a were
relatively comfortable with the transition process and were
relatively content with their fair shot at winning elections
during the formation of a new government, while the violence
was largely a Sunni phenomenon. What do you make of the Sadr
uprising, his militia, and what it may say if anything about
the broader Shi'a population, and their views about which way
we ought to go from here?
Secretary Powell. I think the administrative law that was
approved last month recognized the fact that the Shi'a are the
majority in the country; 60 percent of the people are Shi'a.
And so in a democratic system where a representative government
is what we are talking about, they will have the greatest
representation in the assembly, and that will pass through to
the executive institutions as well.
The important point, though, was that the administrative
law also protected the rights of those who are not in the
majority, the Sunnis, the Kurds, and the other groups within
the country. And so we think we have found a good
representative balance.
Now, there are still questions about this and not all
parties are satisfied with it but that is why we are going to
go forward and write a constitution. And changes could be made
as you go forward toward the constitution.
I think this satisfied most Shi'a. All Shi'a members of the
Governing Council went along with it. The Ayatollah Sistani--
who is seen in the Shi'a population as the leading ayatollah,
and has great weight when he speaks--has some reservations
about it but he did not firmly object to the TAL. The Shi'a in
the governing council went and saw him and said, ``Look, this
is pretty good. Let us move in this direction.'' And he
understood that. He has reservations and those reservations
will have to be dealt with as we go forward.
The fellow who is causing the trouble now, al-Sadr, is a
young radical who is not considered a leading figure in the
Shi'a community. But he does have the loyalty of the Mahdi
militia, and he is stirring up a great deal of trouble. He has
been indicted for the worst kinds of crimes and he has to be
brought to justice eventually.
Senator McConnell. Do you think he is getting any support
from outside the country--from Iran, for example?
Secretary Powell. There may be some support coming in the
country. I cannot say it is not the case but I do not sense
that he is enjoying great support from other Shi'a groups,
other than his own within the country; or for that matter, from
outside the country.
I think he is a finite definable problem. And what we want
to do is deal with this in the very near future so that he does
not start to take on more of an aura and more of an influence
than is deserving of his state and position in the Shi'a
community.
Senator McConnell. Final question and then I will turn to
Senator Leahy. So, your view is that his following is small and
stable, and not small and growing?
Secretary Powell. It is small and stable. We do not want to
see it grow. And that is why our military forces now are
engaging the Mahdi militia.
Senator McConnell. Senator Leahy.
Senator Leahy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And Secretary
Powell, thank you for the comments you made regarding what I
said in my opening statement. And you and your staff will have
a copy of my whole statement. I go into a number of things,
Liberia, the Charles Taylor situation in Sierra Leone,
Colombia, Indonesia, and others.
I ask that you take a look at it because, if anything, it
is a road map of what I intend to focus on in this subcommittee
this year.
I appreciate the other troops besides ours involved in the
reconstruction of Iraq. The British led the way with, I
believe, 11,000 troops. We have got about 130,000.
The other 32 nations provide less than 10 percent of the
troops. They provide less than 1,000 soldiers each, including
11 of our NATO allies. We have police departments that are a
lot larger than what they have put in there. And the Spanish,
of course, are planning to withdraw.
Mr. Brahimi is only a special adviser. He is not a U.N.
administrator with all those powers.
The British have given $1 billion for reconstruction aid.
Ours is over $20 billion.
So, we have others in there but we are carrying by far the
lion's share.
George Will suggested in a column--and it probably will
shock him to know I quoted his column--but he said in The
Washington Post yesterday:
The transfer of power in Iraq is to an institutional
apparatus that is still unformed. This is approaching at a
moment when U.S. forces in Iraq, never adequate for post-war
responsibilities are fewer than they were.
U.S. forces are insufficient for that mission; unless the
civil war is quickly contained, no practicable U.S. deployment
will suffice. U.S. forces worldwide cannot continue to cope
with Iraq as it is, plus their other duties--peacekeeping,
deterrence, training--without stresses that will manifest
themselves in severe retention problems in the reserves and
regular forces.
You have a military background. Do you disagree with him?
Do we have enough troops there if civil war spreads. Do we have
enough to contain it?
Secretary Powell. The commanders believe that there are
enough forces but, because of the recent spike in activity,
Secretary Rumsfeld and General Abizaid are--I think the way to
put it--delaying the transfer out of those who were scheduled
to leave in the very near future in order to keep an increased
density of troops.
Senator Leahy. And continue to transfer in so that you----
Secretary Powell. Yes.
Senator Leahy [continuing]. Raise the overall number.
Secretary Powell. The overall number goes up, rather than
goes down for some period of time. I do not know how long that
will be. It is up to Don Rumsfeld and John Abizaid.
What is interesting is that, although I do not have the
total access to these numbers as I used to have on a daily
basis, the re-enlistment rates among those units that have been
there remain high.
Senator Leahy. Well----
Secretary Powell [continuing]. The troops know that they
are doing something that is important and, even with the
knowledge that they may have to go back, they are re-enlisting.
Senator Leahy. I have gone out to visit our--some of our
wounded out at Walter Reed, and I am talking to a man who has
lost his leg. He has got a new, very high-tech prosthetic. He
is showing it to me.
So I say: ``What are you going to--now what do you--plan to
do once you get out of here?'' And he looked at me----
Secretary Powell. Go back to his unit.
Senator Leahy [continuing]. Said, ``I want to go back. I
want to go back to the Army.''
It was very moving. My wife, as you know, is a nurse. She
has talked with a number of very severely wounded--the same
thing. And you have to admire their courage.
Secretary Powell. Well, if I may, Senator Leahy, when I was
over there a couple of weeks ago, I spoke to a large group of
troops in one of the rooms. There must have been 500 or 600 in
the room. And after saying a few words to them, and thanking
them, and telling them how proud we all were of them, I was
walking through the crowd, shaking hands, and taking pictures--
and you are familiar with the scene.
As soon as I got in the crowd, some young GI stuck his hand
out and grabbed my hand. He did not want a picture. He did not
want a signature. He just said, ``Tell the President to stay
the course.''
Senator Leahy. Yes.
Secretary Powell. And these are the young men who are over
there, not getting showers every day, and living in the mud,
and living in the dirt, and living in the sand.
Senator Leahy. You have been there.
Secretary Powell. I have been there; I know what it is
like. And they know what they are doing is important. That is
why they are telling all of us, ``Stay the course.''
Senator Leahy. None of us have a crystal ball; and if we
did, maybe this whole thing might have been handled
differently, maybe Afghanistan might have been handled
differently, maybe post- or pre-September 11 might have been.
But let us talk about after June 30. We now have a new
Iraqi Government. Suppose they take a position that we strongly
disagree with, suppose they want an Iranian-style theocracy
instead of a democracy; a theocracy that will not respect
minority rights, whether it is women or other minority
religions. Do we have veto power to block it?
What if they say to the American soldiers, ``Out, right
now, today,'' or within the few days it might take to leave?
Can we refuse to leave?
Secretary Powell. Sovereignty means sovereignty. But before
they get sovereignty handed over to them or at the time that
sovereignty is handed over to them, we will have made
arrangements with respect to what our troops are doing there
and for what purpose. And the least of my worries is that they
are going to tell us prematurely to leave.
Senator Leahy. Why?
Secretary Powell. Because they are going to need us for
security for some time to come. This is still a work very much
in progress. This will be a new government that is still
getting its sea legs, that is still developing institutions of
democracy, that has not yet finished a constitution, and has
not yet held an election to give it full legitimacy. And it
will be challenged.
It will be challenged by the kinds of forces that you see
challenging us today. And for that reason, I am quite confident
that we will not have a dispute with the Interim Government
over us keeping our troops in their country. They will need
that kind of protection.
Even though sovereignty will be returned to them, the
troops will remain under our control. And we believe we can
have an understanding with the Interim Government based on what
we have discussed with the Governing Counsel, now that Iraqis
troops will also be under our command. That is our preference
in order for there to be unity of command.
If the Interim Government starts to move in a way that is
totally inconsistent with democracy, or starts to create a
theocracy, or take away the rights from people, then we have a
very brand-new and difficult situation. But we do have some
considerable influence over such a thing by the money that we
are providing for the reconstruction of the country, by the
political relationship we will have with them, by the
international organizations that we hope will be there with us,
and hopefully perhaps by the U.N. resolution that will help
establish their interim legitimacy until they go to elections.
But they will be sovereign. I think as a result of
agreements and a result of, hopefully, resolutions that are
passed, there will be some constraints on the power of this
sovereign government.
Senator Leahy. I will submit my other questions for the
record.
Senator McConnell. Thank you, Senator Leahy. Chairman
Stevens.
Senator Stevens. Thank you very much. I just have a couple
of questions, Mr. Secretary.
WEAPONS DUMPS
When we were in Iraq, I received estimates of the number of
weapons dumps. Now, these are a mass of weapons of destruction,
not the weapons of mass destruction, but the estimate I
received was from 1,000 to 7,000 of these dumps full of
artillery shells, hand-held weapons, and shoulder-held weapons.
We have asked the Congressional Research Service and other
agencies to try and determine when they were paid for. It is my
understanding that debt that was incurred after the agreement
was signed at the end of the gulf war, after the sanctions went
into effect is invalid. Now, I do not know whether you can
affirm that but that is my understanding.
We fear that some of these nations are claiming that the
bills that are owed are legitimate debts but they were for
weapons that came to Iraq after Saddam Hussein agreed not to
purchase any additional weapons.
Do you think you can ask the Department of State to find
out if they--know anything about the origin of those weapons,
these mass deposits of weapons, and their relationship to the
debt that these people claim?
I understand Saudi Arabia claims $30 billion; Russia, $6.9
billion; France, $5.9 billion; Germany, $4.8 billion, and it
goes on up to $125 billion--$125 billion in total debt. I am
hoping we can get someone--maybe you could do it--to ask the
United Nations to step in and help the world destroy these
enormous deposits of weapons.
They are out on the ground, no fences around them, and very
few of them are guarded. I talked to some of the people
involved in non-government security, the people that were
involved in Fallujah.
I asked: ``Have you ever taken weapons from these dumps,''
they said: ``Well, that would be illegal.''
I said: ``Well, you mean, illegal for us but not illegal
for Iraqis?''
He said: ``Well, we borrow a few now and then.''
Now, they are just dumps that anyone with a truck can go by
and pick up artillery shells, all sorts of equipment. I think
someone has to take responsibility for destroying them.
Right now, the military does not have enough people to
guard them. One of them was 5 miles square and piled up about
10 feet high of weapons.
These weapons dumps are just totally being ignored. I had
to apologize to Senator Diane Feinstein when she raised it last
year. I did not know the scope and extent of it, and she wanted
us to add some money to the defense appropriations bill. We
added a little money but we do not have enough money to deal
with this issue and keep our troops in Iraq, too.
So, I urge you to help us find some way to determine who
brought weaponry to Iraq and if they are claiming that they
have a debt that is owed by the new Iraq, whether weapons were
brought in illegally after 1991. In any event, please think
about who can help us get rid of them. That is my message to
you, my friend.
I do not think I have ever seen a more difficult problem in
a battlefield in my life. And I have seen a lot of them, as you
have. I cannot believe that we can live with the fact that
anyone can go pick up weapons.
If they are going to be available on a no-cash and come-
carry basis, there is no way we can deal with this. I do not
think we should expose our people to that kind of weaponry,
totally unguarded and totally available to anyone who wants to
use it in an unconventional way.
Secretary Powell. Thank you, Senator. The whole country
was--is an ammo dump.
Senator Stevens. Yes.
Secretary Powell. There are facilities all over the place.
Some were destroyed during both the gulf war and the current
war. Others were destroyed after the war, but it was still a
huge problem, because of the number of facilities.
I know that Secretary Rumsfeld is working with Ambassador
Bremer and our military commanders over there to try to get
some kind of control over these facilities, so we do not have
the kind of the problem you describe.
With respect to debt, I am going to ask my lawyers to give
you an answer for the record, because I do not want to guess at
it as to if a country sold weapons to Iraq that were sold in
violation of U.N. resolutions, why should there be a legitimate
debt against the Iraqi people for such sales? But I need to
give you a formal answer for the record on that.
[The information follows:]
United States Department of State,
Washington, DC, April 29, 2004.
Hon. Ted Stevens,
Chairman, Committee on Appropriations, U.S. Senate.
Dear Mr. Chairman: This is in response to the question that you
raised during Secretary Powell's testimony on April 8, 2004 concerning
the Administration's fiscal year 2005 budget request. Specifically, you
inquired whether, in light of the mass deposits of weapons found in
Iraq, any of the debt claims that are being made against Iraq by
various creditor countries derived from weapons sales that violated the
Iraqi arms embargo instituted under United Nations Security Council
Resolution 661 and subsequent related resolutions.
The vast majority of these bilateral official claims against Iraq
appear to pre-date the Iraq sanction regime and therefore could not
derive from sales of weapons in violation of that sanction regime. Of
the small amount of official claims that post-date the sanctions
regime, we are not aware of any such claims that derive from illegal
arms sales. Although Iraqi authorities, working with the CPA and with
the IMF and Paris Club, have made great progress in identifying the
amounts of debt outstanding, much of the Iraqi documentation is
missing. The Iraqi authorities will have to ask Iraq's creditors for
documentation to substantiate their claims. Until this process is
completed, we will not be able to completely rule out the possibility
that some claims derive from illegal military sales. Given the
knowledge that we have so far, however, we have no reason to believe
that the debt claims derive from sales of weapons in violation of U.N.
sanctions.
Prior to the institution of the Iraqi sanctions regime in late
1990, Iraq had accumulated a very large external debt as a result,
inter alia, of the costs of the Iran-Iraq war. While we believe that a
significant portion of that debt derived from arms sales, such sales
were not in violation of any U.N.-sanctioned embargo at the time. It is
possible that a significant portion of the mass deposits of weapons
recently found in Iraq derived from such pre-sanctions sales.
We hope that this information is helpful to you and the other
members of the Senate Appropriations Committee. Please do not hesitate
to contact us if we can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Paul V. Kelly,
Assistant Secretary, Legislative Affairs.
Senator Stevens. That is totally logical but, very clearly,
if they sent it in as canned Spam and they are weapons, that is
the problem.
Secretary Powell. Yes, sir.
Senator Stevens. I hope we can find some way to identify
it. I asked the Iraqis, and they said all those records were
destroyed in the war.
Secretary Powell. It may be hard to get all the answers,
Senator.
Senator Stevens. I do think, though, that the United
Nations ought to be involved. If they want to come in and do
something that is not violent and not too exposed to danger,
that is one job they can take on. They are out west, they are
north, they are south, and they are east. There are 1,000 to
7,000 dumps. Something has to be done at least to put them
under some type of security until we can figure out what to do
with them--until the Iraqis figure out what to do.
Lastly, I do not think there ought to be an Iraqi Army. I
think there ought to be a self-defense force, and that we ought
to limit the number of weapons of this type they have access
to. But today they have open access to weapons that are just
horrendous in terms of their capability. Thank you, my friend.
Secretary Powell. Thank you, Senator.
Senator McConnell. Thank you, Senator Stevens. The order
remaining is Senator Harkin, Senator Bennett, Senator DeWine,
Senator Landrieu, and Senator Byrd.
Senator Harkin.
Senator Harkin. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Mr.
Secretary, you may recall that at last year's hearing, I asked
you what the Department of State was doing to ensure that the
needs of people with disabilities were being addressed in our
foreign assistance programs in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other
countries. Now, this came about because it had been reported
back to me that many of our dollars that were used for
reconstruction in Bosnia, for example, and places like that,
that the schools were rebuilt and things were inaccessible,
just totally inaccessible. And I thought, ``Wait a minute. We
are using U.S. dollars to do that, and we are not providing any
accessibility.''
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
So then, I began to look at it more and found that we
really did not have much of a focus in our policies regarding
people with disabilities. So since we last met, Congress has
passed the following legislation. One, we required the
coalition provisional authority to promote the inclusion of
people with disabilities. Second, we instructed USAID to
develop access standards. And third, we included disability-
related criteria for the Millennium Challenge Account. Those
three things have been passed by Congress.
I need not tell you, Mr. Secretary, the United States is, I
think, is in a unique position to lead the world in
demonstrating the tremendous potential of people with
disabilities when those barriers are removed. Last week, I met
with Under Secretary Paula Dobriansky and Assistant Secretary
Lorne Craner to discuss these international disability
initiatives.
I am pleased to learn the Department of State will be
improving documentation of disability rights in the human
rights reports. So, that is one good step.
However, I have proposed the formation of an inter-agency
panel or task force, within the Department of State, to raise
awareness and coordinate the government's international
disability programs. I have stressed the need for a permanent
staff to focus on disability issues. Because if you do not have
some inter-agency task force, it just doesn't happen, as I
found in the last year. You expressed an interest in it a year
ago. You said you were very sensitive to the issue; I believe
you are. But you have got a lot on your plate. And you have got
a lot of things to think about. And this falls by the wayside.
So, can you just tell me now what are we going to do? Is
there any hope that we can have some kind of a panel or
something like that at the State Department?
Secretary Powell. I think there is. Whether it needs a
permanent secretariat or not, or an inter-agency secretariat of
some kind on a permanent basis and how large it should be, I
would have to sit and discuss this with Under Secretary
Dobriansky and others.
But we are sensitive to it, especially with respect to the
new Millennium Challenge Account and the Millennium Challenge
Corporation. And I think you have had discussions with Under
Secretary Dobriansky about how we can approach that problem.
So, we are sensitive to it.
I have not discussed the idea of a permanent panel with a
secretariat, with Under Secretary Dobriansky.
Senator Harkin. Well, again, I thank you for your
sensitivity to it; but you were sensitive to it last year, too.
And I mean it, I am not just saying that, I know you are. But
there has to be someone in your operation to whom people go
when these issues come up, whose task it is to ensure that
disability rights, the things that we have passed in the last
year, are actually carried out. If there is no one there to do
that, it just gets muddled and no one ever takes care of it.
So I do not know the phrases ``secretariat'' and such. I do
not understand that phrase but these----
Secretary Powell. No. Your suggestion being we ought to
have a permanent staff of some kind?
Senator Harkin. Somebody.
Secretary Powell. That is what I am talking about.
Senator Harkin. Some permanent staff some place whose
focus--I mean, you have it on a number of different other
areas.
Secretary Powell. Yes.
Senator Harkin. Women's issues, other issues like that, you
have permanent people that someone knows there is an officer,
someone to go to for guidance, direction, consultation, that
type of thing when you are dealing with disability rights
issues. So, I hope that you can take a look at that again.
Secretary Powell. Thank you, Senator. I will.
[The information follows:]
United States Department of State,
Washington, DC, March 1, 2004.
Hon. Tom Harkin,
U.S. Senate.
Dear Senator Harkin: This is in response to your January 21 letter
to Secretary Powell urging that our foreign policy promote ``the rights
and inclusion of people with disabilities.'' Thank you for your
thoughtful letter. We are aware of your leadership in this area and
appreciate your strong commitment to the disability community.
We have attached for your review the annual Country Reports on
Human Rights Practices, which was released on February 25th. In Section
5 of each country chapter, we report on the constitutional (legal)
prohibitions on discrimination based on disability, and whether the
government of each country effectively enforces those prohibitions. In
countries where we find societal violence, we report on efforts by non-
governmental entities to incite violence based on these issues, as well
as to identify any laws, administrative regulations, or government
practices that are inconsistent with equal access to housing, jobs,
education and/or health care. We note any mechanisms available for
redress of discrimination and whether such mechanisms are effective,
and report any discrimination against disabled persons in employment,
education or the provision of other state services. We report whether
the law mandates building access and whether the government effectively
enforced the law. We also report abuses in governmental mental health
facilities, including inhuman and degrading treatment, arbitrary
commitment, abuse of physical restraints, unhygienic living conditions,
inadequate medical care, lack of safeguards against dangerous treatment
and lack of protection against sexual or other violence.
Our embassies gather information throughout the year from a variety
of sources across the political spectrum, including government
officials, jurists, armed forces sources, journalists, human rights
monitors, academics, and labor activists. This information gathering
can be hazardous, and our officers regularly go to great lengths, under
trying and sometimes dangerous conditions, to investigate reports of
human rights abuses and come to the aid of individuals at risk.
Disability organizations around the globe are also welcome to provide
information through this process.
In addition, the Democracy, Human Rights and Labor Bureau (DRL) has
been pleased to meet--on more than one occasion--with U.S. disabilities
NGOs, including those referred by your staff. In September, DRL
provided disability NGOs with a database that includes the names and
addresses of 805 disability organizations we have identified in 172
different countries.
More recently, the DRL Senior Coordinator for Democracy and Human
Rights Promotion met with NGO representatives referred by your office
to discuss grant possibilities under DRL's Human Rights and Democracy
Fund (HRDF). These individuals were briefed on the types of proposals
DRL funds, and were invited to submit an unsolicited proposal. HRDF
funds are used to promote innovative programming that upholds
democratic principles, supports democratic institutions, promotes human
rights and builds civil society in countries of strategic importance.
HRDF finds unique, timely, cutting-edge projects that do not duplicate
other efforts, as opposed to simply contributing to larger projects.
Also, HRDF is used to fund pilot projects, or ``seed funds'' that will
have an immediate impact but that have potential for continued funding
beyond HRDF resources.
The Department of State, including the Bureau of Political-Military
Affairs, works closely with the U.S. Agency for International
Development (USAID) and other agencies, on humanitarian demining
programs to clear landmines and promote mine risk education in some 30
countries. Landmines and other explosive remnants of war have created
thousands of maimed and disabled people around the world. Through our
partnership program we support NGOs that treat landmine victims and
operate prosthetic clinics. Many of them also serve as advocates for
disabled persons in their communities. In partnership with Warner Bros.
animation we produced public service announcements (PSAs) for Cambodia
that warn children about the dangers of landmines. These PSAs also
carry a message of respect for and acceptance of people with
disabilities.
USAID has been working since 1989 to assist people with
disabilities in their development efforts. We are enclosing a copy of
their ``Third Report on the Implementation of the USAID's Disability
Policy.''
On behalf of USAID, The Department of State Bureau of Population,
Refugees and Migration (PRM) has awarded grant agreements to NGOs for
distributing wheelchairs to persons of need throughout the world,
regardless of race, religion, or political affiliation.
The Office of the U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator has responsibility
for all HIV/AIDS programs of the United States government overseas,
including in 14 focus countries where we will provide extensive new
resources for prevention, treatment and care. U.S. programs will offer
a high degree of flexibility in order to provide the most appropriate
methods of prevention, treatment, and care for groups and individuals,
including those with disabilities.
The Department of State is taking effective action in a variety of
areas. As we mentioned during the February 26th meeting with your
staff, we do not believe that the establishment of a new special
coordinator position is warranted at this time.
Thank you for your letter and please feel free to let us know if
you have additional suggestions. We look forward to working with you on
this issue of great importance.
Sincerely,
Paul V. Kelly,
Assistant Secretary, Legislative Affairs.
Note.--``Third Report on the Implementation of the USAID's Disability
Policiy.'' The full text of the Annual Human Rights Report
can be found at http://www.usaid.gov/about/disability/
third_report.pdf
Senator Harkin. I appreciate that.
Secretary Powell. Thank you.
HAITI
Senator Harkin. One last thing, Mr. Secretary, I--maybe if
I get some more time on the second round, you and I have spoken
a number of times about the situation in Haiti. And I thank you
for your speaking with me during that very tense period of
time; and you were very kind and generous with your time with
me and I appreciate that.
I know you were there on Monday. I'd like to note that you
didn't mention the crisis in Haiti in either your opening or
written statements. I just wanted to point out the crisis in
Haiti didn't just happen overnight. Since 2001, the OAS has
worked to resolve the political situation in Haiti. Your office
has been working with them since 2001.
A year ago, the United Nations warned the international
community of a looming political and humanitarian crisis in
Haiti. Despite this and other forewarnings, the administration
was left scrambling to respond in February when armed thugs
took to the streets in Haiti.
As late as February 13, Mr. Secretary, at a press briefing
with other foreign ministers, you stated: ``We will accept no
outcome that in any way illegally attempts to remove the
elected president of Haiti. At the same time, we believe both
sides need to come together and find a political solution, a
peaceful political solution, using the CARICOM proposal.'' That
is February 13.
When asked at that briefing how you hoped to convince the
Haitian opposition to accept the CARICOM plan, which President
Aristide accepted immediately, you said--and again I quote--
``We think that the CARICOM plan has opportunities for both
sides. President Aristide was elected by the Haitian people and
his departure from the scene as president can only be by
democratic constitutional means.'' I am quoting you.
``And it would not be appropriate. It would be inconsistent
with a plan to attempt to force him from his office against his
will. And that is what you have heard us clearly say today is
unacceptable outcome.'' Your quote, February 13.
On February 19, you told Sam Donaldson, ``What we have to
do now is stand with President Aristide--he is the elected
President of Haiti--and do what we can to help him.''
Asked about President Aristide's stepping down, you said,
``That is not an element of the plan because, under the
constitution, he is the President for some time to come.'' Your
quotes.
Well, 7 days later, February 27, you begin to indicate that
one democratic element, President Aristide, should leave. In a
CNN interview, you said that President Aristide should do what
he thinks is best for his country. But when asked whether he
could survive politically, you stated, ``There is such strong
resistance now to his presidency that I am not quite sure if we
are going to be able to find a way forward.''
Mr. Secretary, President Aristide did what we asked him to
do, maybe not as quickly as we would have liked; but on January
31, he accepted the U.S.-supported CARICOM plan.
But it gets worse. Not only did we withdraw support from
this elected president, but on February 28, the White House
began blaming President Aristide for ``this long simmering
crisis.''
I am quoting a statement from the White House. ``His
failure to adhere to democratic principles has contributed to
the deep polarization and violent unrest that we are witnessing
in Haiti today. His own actions have called into question his
fitness to govern--continue to govern Haiti.''
Then finally on February 29, President Bush stated, ``This
is the beginning of a new chapter in the country's history.''
What happened, Mr. Secretary? In 7 days, what happened?
Secretary Powell. We could not keep it going, Senator. We
could not get the sides to agree to the CARICOM plan. We could
not keep the process moving forward that would have given us
the solution as laid out exactly in the CARICOM plan.
The situation was deteriorating rapidly. And to a
considerable extent, President Aristide's shortcomings and
actions over a long period of time contributed significantly to
our ability to find a political solution.
We did not ignore it. We worked with the OAS. We sent
people down to talk. We worked with the OAS, sending a
distinguished American ambassador down last fall to try to find
a solution. The solution kept eluding us.
Then the Haitian legislature was allowed to expire because
President Aristide wasn't able to bring himself to create
circumstances which would resolve the political impasse that
existed.
We finally found that on the last weekend in February, we
had a catastrophe on our hands about to happen. When forces
were lining up, illegal forces supported by President Aristide,
the Shamirs, who were arming themselves all over Port-au-
Prince. Both the north and south portions of the country had
fallen, and President Aristide was worried about his personal
security, and it was becoming----
Senator McConnell. Let me just say, Senator Harkin, that
you are over the 5 minute time limit. Can we bring this to a
conclusion?
Secretary Powell. We were not prepared, nor were any of our
colleagues, France, Canada, or anyone else prepared to send in
armed forces to be on the side of President Aristide,
essentially to keep him in power. And they would have been
there for a very long period of time. We had made that clear
throughout the period.
So, his situation became untenable. A solution appeared on
that Saturday evening, when he decided that his own security
was at risk, and he asked if we could help him out of the
country.
Senator Harkin. I was on the phone with him that day.
I was on the phone with you that day, too.
Secretary Powell. I remember very vividly, Senator.
Senator Harkin. I remember it vividly, too.
Secretary Powell. Well, what I am saying, Senator, is at 9
o'clock that night, Saturday night, I was minding my own
business, not knowing how this thing was going to play out,
except hundreds of people were about to be caught up in a
maelstrom.
After I spoke to you, I think, late afternoon----
Senator Harkin. Right.
Secretary Powell [continuing]. It was about 9 o'clock that
night when I got a call from my ambassador, Ambassador Foley,
who said his security people have told him that it is no longer
sustainable and he wants to talk to me. And he wants to talk to
me and he wants to talk to me about where he is going to go and
who might come with him. Should I talk to him?
I said, ``See what it is he is asking for.''
What he asked for was an opportunity to leave the country
and he was going to resign. And over the next several hours,
that was arranged.
When I spoke to you, Senator, that was the furthest thing
from my mind. I did not know I was going to get that call at 9
o'clock that night. And we did not put a gun to his head. We
did not kidnap him, or put chains around him, or do anything
else.
Senator Harkin. I believe that. I believe--you are
absolutely right on that.
Secretary Powell. Yes. Let me also say that I went to Haiti
this past Monday, met the new Prime Minister, interim, and he
made some statements on Monday. One, a new corruption czar;
two, a truth and reconciliation commission; three, elections in
2005; and nobody in the current government will run in those
elections in 2005. And he made some other promises with respect
to economic development and the development of the Haitian
national police.
This is a country in deep trouble. The one thing I will
never regret, Senator, is that no killing took place and Port-
au-Prince is stable now, and we are slowly creating stability
in other parts of the country, and we are working with the
United Nations to bring in a peacekeeping force.
I have no ill will toward President Aristide. I am the one,
along with Senator Nunn and President Carter, who got him back
in 1994.
Senator McConnell. We are going to have to move along or
other Senators are going to miss their opportunity to ask
questions.
Senator Bennett.
Senator Bennett. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. It is
fascinating to sit here and listen to all this go back and
forth. And I would like to comment on all of it but I do not
have time.
I do remember Senator Nunn reporting your role in helping
remove Mr. Cedras and replacing him with Aristide. My own
reaction to that was that we were in the process of replacing a
brutal dictator much beloved of American conservatives, with a
brutal dictator much beloved of American liberals. And I think
that is kind of where we ultimately came out.
Mr. Secretary, this will be the last time you formally
appear before this subcommittee. And at the mercy of the
voters, it may be the last time I am here.
So, let me take the opportunity to, first, hope that there
is a, from our point of view, successful outcome in the
election, and we both may be here another year. But if that is
not the case, let me take the opportunity to thank you for your
service, not only as Secretary of State but a lifetime of
service to your country. It should be duly noted for the
record, even though we take it for granted.
I have written you about a number of issues that are
important to me, tuberculosis, AIDS, malaria, microloans.
I am very pleased that your opening statement talks about
all of these issues with the exception of microloans. I do not
take that exception as an indication of lack of interest. But I
feel these kinds of things that do not get the headlines with
the State Department, nonetheless, are very important over
time.
I appreciate your willingness to be as supportive of them
as you have been, and assure you once again of my interest in
it, particularly the microloan effort, which I know some of the
bureaucrats at State do not like, because they do not control
the money. But I have seen the results of that as I have moved
around the world, and it is very dramatic, and very important.
Let me get to the issue that has dominated here when we
talked about Iraq. First following up on the comment of our
chairman that this is not Vietnam, go back to your experience
that you told us as you walked through the GIs and the troops
saying to you, ``Tell the President to stay the course.''
My military service was after Korea and before Vietnam, so
I never saw a shot fired in combat. But my memory is that there
was very little of that feeling in Vietnam, that the GIs were
not telling their leadership in Vietnam, ``We are glad we are
here. We feel we have done a good job and this is what we ought
to stay doing.'' Is that one of the--would that be one of the
differences between this and Vietnam?
Secretary Powell. Yes, sir. By the late 1960s--I was there
in the early 1960s and I was there in the late 1960s--by the
late 1960s that kind of spirit was drying up. All of our
youngsters were wonderful young men and women. They served
their Nation at their Nation's call but they had serious doubts
about our staying power. And they had serious doubts about the
mission we were trying to accomplish.
Senator Bennett. Yes. I think it is important for us to
underscore those differences.
Now, the call has gone out for a U.N. administrator to
replace Ambassador Bremer on the 1st of July. I have contacts
in Iraq, independent of the government, people who do business
there or travel there or have relatives there, et cetera. They
tell me that the Iraqis view the United Nations with as much
suspicion as they might view the United States.
OIL FOR FOOD
They are very much aware of the details of the Oil for Food
scandal, the enormous corruption that surrounded the U.N.
activity in overseeing Oil for Food, and that the United
Nations in its role, in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, seriously
failed the Iraqi people.
This gives me pause at the idea that the United Nations
might be seen as the beneficent--disinterested as opposed to
uninterested--disinterested and therefore an even-handed party
here who needs to come in and remove the stain of some American
stigma of being an occupation force, that there are many Iraqis
who feel that the United Nations would be an occupation force,
and might take them back to the bad old days of arms deals
under the table, bribes paid to officials, not only to U.N.
officials, but to officials of other governments that profited
enormously during the Oil for Food scandal.
We do not seem to be paying much attention to the Oil for
Food scandal but I think it is the biggest example of official
corruption that we have seen really in my memory. Dollar-wise,
I cannot think of an area of corruption that begins to approach
it.
Do you have any information you can share with us, or
anything that you think is legitimate for us to know about,
with respect to that scandal and how it is being examined? The
only leverage we have on the United Nations, which we have
exerted in the past, is withholding of our dues to try to clean
up some of the corruption within the U.N. bureaucracy years
ago.
I supported resumption of payment of dues, because there
was some movement towards cleaning up corruption in the United
Nations; but the corruption in the United Nations has exploded
again, maybe not on the front pages of The New York Times, but
elsewhere the corruption of the United Nations has exploded
again. And as we are talking about a U.N. role in this vitally
important, very sensitive, and very delicate situation, which
could still go south on us.
We have no guarantee we are going to succeed in Iraq. We
have a determination and resolve that we are going to succeed
but we have no guarantee. And inserting into that equation, the
United Nations, at this particular point when the Oil for Food
scandal and the level of corruption in it is so enormous, is
something that concerns me. And I would like to get your
reassurance that it is under control, or that it is being
investigated, or that we have some leverage, or whatever you
might have to say.
Secretary Powell. Let me begin, first, Senator, by saying
that the term, U.N. Administrator, which has been used by some,
or High Commissioner, suggests that we are going down the road
of turning the whole country over to some U.N. trustee
arrangement. That is not the case.
We think there is a role, however, for a senior
representative of the Secretary General to be there, to assist
with preparing the country for elections--the United Nations
brings great expertise to that--in providing advice to the
governing council, the way in which Ambassador Brahimi did
earlier this year in getting to an agreement on the
administrative law. So, I think the United Nations does have a
role to play.
A second point, there are concerns among many Iraqissa
about the role played by the United Nations in the past. It is
not exactly a love-in. It is not going to be a love-in. But I
think most Iraqis understand that the United Nations does bring
assets to the table.
But there will be questions raised about the Oil for Food
program. I do not know the dimensions of the problem. I read a
number of articles about the alleged dimensions of the problem.
I just do not know how bad it is but it is a bad problem.
Ambassador to the United Nations, Ambassador Negroponte,
and Assistant Secretary Kim Holmes testified before Senator
Lugar and his committee yesterday. We are making an assessment
now of what documentation we have, that we can make available
to the investigators and to members of Congress who ask for
documentation. We do have access to some of the documents, some
of the contracts that came through our system.
I have had a number of conversations with Kofi Annan about
it. I know he is seized with it. He knows that this is a major
problem that has the potential for being a huge black eye for
the United Nations. And I know that he is reaching out to find
people who can assist him in the investigation.
The United Nations is sort of constrained in that they can
only investigate themselves, not other countries. But we are
trying to design a model for them that will allow somebody to
investigate other countries and bring it all together.
Ambassador Bremer has taken action to freeze records and to
have the Governing Council freeze all records in Baghdad so
they can be made available for inquiries and investigations as
we move forward.
So, we are taking the Oil for Food program problem very,
very seriously. Ambassador Bremer is, the governing council is,
and now, I believe, Kofi Annan is, as well.
Senator McConnell. Thank you, Senator Bennett. In order of
arrival, we will continue with Senator DeWine, followed by
Senator Landrieu, Senator Byrd, Senator Durbin.
Senator DeWine.
SUDAN
Senator DeWine. Mr. Secretary, thank you very much for
being with us. And I want to follow up on what--the list of
thank yous that Senator Bennett was listing and add to that
your commitment and push for a comprehensive peace agreement in
Sudan. I know you have been very concerned about that and have
done a lot of work on that, getting close as you have indicated
there.
I also appreciate very much the fact that the President
called on Sudanese Government to stop the militias, in the
Darfur region, from committing atrocities against the local
population. That was certainly very much appreciated and
certainly very, very needed.
Let me turn, if I could, to Haiti. I know you, as you said,
you were down there this week. And I just want to say that, you
know, my sources in Haiti indicate that our troops are doing
just a bang-up job down there. They are making a big
difference.
If I could, I will just quote from a friend of mine who has
worked in Haiti, doing humanitarian work for a number of years.
I got an e-mail from this person the other morning, and this
person said, and I quote, ``The military is doing a good job.
God bless them. The people have a new spirit. You can feel it.
There are many organizations considering coming into City
Soleil for the first time. We are giving out large amounts of
food. Our schools are open,'' and this continues on, the e-
mail.
But it is better there than it has been for years. And it
is because our troops are there, and the gangs are not
operating, and there is, you know, the security that is
necessary for that country to, again, have the opportunity for
decent peace and some things to start--good things to start
happening.
Let me ask a couple of questions, if I could, and I will
give you a chance to respond. When you were in Haiti, you
indicated your support for our HERO bill, our trade bill, a
bill that we--several of us have sponsored here in the Senate,
and Clay Shaw in the House of Representatives has sponsored. We
think it would create an awful lot of jobs in Haiti at a time
when it is clearly very, very necessary for that to happen and
for some good news to occur down there. I would like for you to
comment on that, if you could.
Second, I wonder if you could comment on the
Administration's plan in regard to Haiti. And I will be very,
very candid with you. And I have said this publicly before. We
have been, for the last several years, in the $50 million level
of support and aid. That does a lot of good.
We have been--I think of necessity--had to give that money
to the NGO's. We have not been able to give it to the
government of Haiti.
Now, we are in a position where we will be able to channel
that through the government of Haiti, we hope, and to help
build up the institutions of that new government of Haiti.
But when I go through, Mr. Secretary, and look at the needs
and the things that we are going to have to do, and that we
hope the international community will assist us in doing. You
start with the rebuilding of the police, reconstituting of the
police. You go from there to the courts and the rule of law,
building up the rule of law.
The debt, servicing of the debt has to be dealt with one
way or the other. I would like to see it forgiven but they tell
me that is going to be a kind of difficult thing to do. But it
has got to be dealt with one way or the other, either through
the service or the getting rid of the debt.
You look at the health structure. You know, agriculture
development in that country has to take place. You know, 97 to
98 percent of the country, the topsoil is gone. We all know it
is an ecological disaster.
We just go on and on and on. Let alone, the normal
humanitarian concerns, most of our money today that goes to
Haiti is just basically for food and medical and other basic
humanitarian supplies. There is no way, Mr. Secretary, that
this can happen for a bare minimum $150 million a year. How are
we going to put that together?
So those are my two questions.
Secretary Powell. Okay. First, sir, with respect to the
troops, thank you very much, and I will pass it on to their
commanders, but they are not just U.S. troops. We have great
troops from Chile, from Canada, and from France.
It was quite a coalition that came together rather quickly
over a period of a few days. And they went in there and they
did a good job.
Senator DeWine. They are doing a great job.
Secretary Powell. I will never regret the way in which this
unfolded, because the killing stopped in Port-au-Prince. We
would have had a bloodbath in Port-au-Prince. And I think
President Aristide made the right decision that night.
We now have to spread out to other parts of the Island, but
the humanitarian aid is now starting to flow throughout, both
the north and south sides of the Island, as well as in Port-au-
Prince.
We do support your HERO bill. I am pleased to, again, say
it here today. As you know there are some difficult issues
associated with the legislation but I think it is something
Haiti needs.
With respect to the money, we have about $55 million in
2004. But the need is much, much greater. Frankly, $150 million
a year would almost be a modest sum.
Senator DeWine. It would be a modest sum.
Secretary Powell. But I have got to figure out what other
resources I have that can be used for this purpose, and what we
are going to have to do as we get into the next fiscal year,
and what additional monies may be required.
This is a country that has been, once again, run into the
ground. And it needs everything. It needs to be fed. It needs
the agricultural sector restored, debt dealt with, and perhaps
number one is the Haitian National Police, once again, rebuilt
and made honest and non-corrupt in the way we did it in 1994
and 1995.
But then it got run into the ground again by cronies of Mr.
Aristide being put in place.
Senator DeWine. I would just--my time is up, Mr. Secretary,
but I would just add, you know, I saw that very closely when
the police were being reconstituted. And we had some great
Haitian-Americans from Los Angeles, from New York, from
Chicago, who went down there and who were mentoring those
police. We had people from the Justice Department who were
helping with the courts. Great progress was being made. And
just to see the pride that these Haitian-Americans took in
mentoring these young 18-, 19-, 20-year-old Haitians was a
great thing to see.
For the reasons that you have cited, all that work started
to go downhill and went the wrong way. But there is no reason
to think that that cannot happen again. And with the right
political leadership in Haiti that--that can be sustained this
time. And I hope that we can help put that together. Thank you
very much.
Secretary Powell. Thank you, Senator.
Senator McConnell. As you know, Mr. Secretary, there is no
one in the Senate who has spent more time on the Haiti issue
than Senator DeWine.
Secretary Powell. Sure.
Senator McConnell. He is a real expert and we commend him
for his attention to this poor beleaguered country.
Senator Landrieu.
Senator Landrieu. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you,
Mr. Secretary, for the work you do for our country----
Secretary Powell. Senator.
Senator Landrieu [continuing]. And for our men and women in
uniform and for our diplomat corps. I really appreciate it. We
all do.
I have three questions. I am going to try to be very brief,
so we can get these answers.
One is about the cost of staying the course. As you, I am
sure, are well aware, $168 billion, which is the amount of
money that we have already appropriated for military and
reconstruction operations in Iraq since 2003, actually equal
the entire amount of money this country spends to fund our
education initiatives including the Department of Health and
Human Services, and including all that we spend on Homeland
Security. So, it is a significant amount of our Treasury, as
you know, that we are committing to stay the course.
The World Bank has estimated that another $55 billion is
going to be required. Our own Congressional Budget Office says
that that figure may be too low; they think it is $100 billion.
The other nations have only pledged and not given, but only
pledged $36 billion.
Given that we were so wildly off the mark in the last year,
sort of leading up to this conflict, and I just quickly will
quote Paul Wolfowitz on February 28, ``If we have to occupy
Iraq for years, as some people are foolishly suggesting, it is
one cost. As Secretary Rumsfeld says, if it lasts 6 days, it is
one cost. If it lasts another 6 months, we are going to be
greeted as liberators. And if so, the cost will be much
lower.''
Donald Rumsfeld said, ``I do not know that there is much
reconstruction to do,'' on April 10, 2003.
Additionally on September 22, Paul Bremer told the Senate
Appropriations Committee that, ``Little or no money would be
needed for Iraq beyond fiscal year 2004 supplemental.'' Now,
clearly, we were wildly off the mark in this pattern of
testimony.
Since you, Mr. Secretary, are going to--I think under the
administration's plan--take responsibility on June 30, it moves
from Defense to State, when the coalition comes into power, how
are you readjusting these estimates and how are we going to
stay the course by staying in the budget? Or are we going to
stay the course out of the budget?
Secretary Powell. The $18 billion that was appropriated in
the supplemental is just now starting to flow. Less than one-
ninth of that money has been used.
So, I think that amount will certainly sustain us through
the rest of this year and well into the next calendar year. And
it was for that reason we made no special requests for 2005. I
think this is a pretty substantial amount that will deal with
most of the needs that Ambassador Bremer came in and presented
to the Congress.
The estimates are much higher than originally thought,
because once we got into the country and realized the problems
that were caused by Saddam Hussein's leadership over time, and
what would be needed to put this country on a solid footing so
that democracy could take root, and so that the economy can get
started again, and the oil sector rebuilt so that soon the
country can be viable, and live on its own revenue; we realized
that the situation required this large infusion of funds.
But at the moment, based on what I know and based on the
work that my staff has done, I do not anticipate this kind of
supplemental requirement being needed in the future.
Senator Landrieu. But do you know a portion--following up
on the, I think, very good line of questioning of Senator
Stevens, about the now found and extremely worrisome ammunition
deposits, dumps, are you saying that in this figure, there is
enough money to take care of that issue, which seems to be much
more extensive than we thought? Or are there going to be
additional requirements for that?
Secretary Powell. I would have to go back and see whether
it is provided for in the supplemental or whether it is being
handled by the Defense Department through other accounts and
other means.
Senator Landrieu. Okay. My second question, quickly, it was
clear that there was a difference of opinion about post-
military plans between Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the State
Department. There was, in fact, a plan that I think the State
Department began called the Future of Iraq project----
Secretary Powell. Yes.
Senator Landrieu [continuing]. Where Defense individuals
were prohibited from participating because there was a
difference of opinion.
My question now that you will come back basically into more
control, do you plan to re-institute some of the provisions of
the Future of Iraq project? Or is that scrapped for good?
Secretary Powell. No. The Future of Iraq project was a
year-long study effort that was conducted by the State
Department, with interagency participation. It was well under
way long before the war started.
I would have to go back and check. I do not remember any
prohibition of Defense people from participating. There may
have been some reluctance on the part of Defense to
participate. I do not remember.
But the whole plan was made available to the Defense
planners, as they got ready for the post-conflict period. And
there are elements of that plan that are still, I think, quite
appropriate to the challenges we are facing. And I will use
elements of that plan or any other plan. Some fine work has
also come out of other think tanks and agencies that I would
take advantage of, as well.
Senator Landrieu. Well, my point being that my information
is that the DOD employees were prohibited from participating in
that plan; and had some of the elements of that plan been
followed, we perhaps would have had more accurate information.
I know my time is up, so I will just ask this question. You
can respond in writing.
ROLE OF WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN
I have now had a chance to read the new constitution of
Afghanistan, which is right here, in preparation for this
meeting. One of the big concerns of many Members of Congress
has been the role of women since they were so brutally
oppressed. And one of the reasons that, you know, we responded
the way we did to the attacks was to liberate them and give
them hope for a better life.
I cannot read in this document where they are, in fact,
implied as citizens. I know it is our intent but I could not
find the language. So, I am going to submit this in writing and
also some questions about their role in the Iraqi constitution,
which continues to say that we will be governed by the religion
of Islam and no law can be developed to the contrary. And we
know under that religion--and others, not just Islam--but
women's roles in terms of freedoms have been severely
restricted.
I remain very concerned, Mr. Secretary. And I do not doubt
your personal commitment. Let me say that. You have been a
stalwart of that and I appreciate it. But I still would feel
better, I guess, if I saw it in writing; and I will submit the
question to you.
Secretary Powell. Let me look at both documents. I think in
the Iraqi Administrative Law, it said that Islam was the source
of law.
The Afghan constitution recently approved by the Loya-
Jirga--I would have to read it again--but when I was in
Afghanistan 3 weeks ago, I went to a registration site at a
school for women, and they were lined up to register to vote.
And they had to demonstrate that they were a citizen in order
to get their laminated registration card.
The statistics I got during that visit was 28 percent of
the women who have registered, to date throughout the country,
28 percent of the registrants to date are women. And in the
western regions, it is up to 45-or-thereabouts percent. So,
they are coming out as citizens getting ready to vote.
But I will look at the exact language to make sure they
have all rights of citizenship besides just registering to
vote.
[The information follows:]
United States Department of State,
Washington, DC, April 27, 2004.
Hon. Mary Landrieu,
U.S. Senate.
Dear Senator Landrieu: On 8 April, at the Foreign Operations
Appropriations Hearing for the fiscal year 2005 Budget Request, you
raised a question to Secretary Powell regarding citizenship provisions
for women in the Iraqi and Afghan constitutions. The Secretary has
asked that I reply on his behalf.
With regard to Afghanistan, Article 22 of the Afghan Constitution
reads as follows. ``Any kind of discrimination and privilege between
the citizens of Afghanistan are prohibited. The citizens of
Afghanistan--whether man or woman--have equal rights and duties before
the law.'' This specific reference of women's equality in the
constitution was a significant change from previous drafts. During the
Constitutional Loya Jirga in December, the women delegates built
support for the provision and had it included in the final draft, which
was a major victory for women's rights in Afghanistan.
In Iraq, as you know, there is yet no constitution, only the
Transitional Administrative Law. In this document, Article 12
guarantees the following:
``All Iraqis are equal in their rights without regard to gender,
sect, opinion, belief, nationality, religion, or origin, and they are
equal before the law. Discrimination against an Iraqi citizen on the
basis of his gender, nationality, religion or origin is prohibited.''
The U.S. Government has worked with the Iraqi Governing Council and
will continue to work with the Iraqi Interim Government and Iraqis to
ensure that such stipulations are reflected in the permanent
constitution.
I hope you find this information useful. The State Department
remains committed to the development of Afghanistan and Iraq as free
and equal democratic societies. We welcome your inquiries and
suggestions.
Sincerely,
Paul V. Kelly,
Assistant Secretary, Legislative Affairs.
Senator McConnell. Senator Byrd.
Senator Byrd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Secretary, I want to follow up on a discussion that we
had during the CJS hearing 2 weeks ago.
RECONSTRUCTION PROGRAMS IN IRAQ
We talked about the State Department taking control of U.S.
reconstruction programs in Iraq after the June 30 deadline. I
have in front of me a copy of a table from the most recent
report submitted to Congress by OMB.
It shows that as of March 1, 2004, nearly 4 months after
the Iraq supplemental was enacted, only $2.2 billion of the
$18.4 billion had been obligated. Moreover, at a time when
security is the most critical issue in Iraq, the report showed
that only $381 million of the $3.24 billion for security and
law enforcement had been obligated, around 10 percent of the
total appropriated. What has happened to the reconstruction
money?
Secretary Powell. The money is available. It just has not
been obligated as quickly as we might have hoped. And the
Defense Department and other agencies responsible for
contracting out these funds are being cautious and judicious in
how the funds are being spent.
I expect that in the next several months, the rate of
obligation will increase significantly.
Senator Byrd. If it was as urgently needed as the President
told Congress, back when we were considering the supplemental,
why is the money not being obligated at a faster pace?
Secretary Powell. There are contracting issues, there are
security issues. I expect it to be obligated at a pace that
would probably take us to the point that by the 1st of July
when the Chief of Mission assumes responsibility, our estimate
right now is $14 billion of the $18 billion will have been
obligated at that point.
We wanted to keep some of it unobligated so that the new
ambassador coming in and the new interim government coming in
have some flexibility as to how the last $4 billion might be
spent.
Senator Byrd. When do you anticipate that the 2004
supplemental funds will be exhausted?
Secretary Powell. I do not know that I can answer that
question without talking to my staff, and I am not sure they
know, because we are trying not to obligate it all so that
there is flexibility when the Interim Government takes
sovereign responsibility on 1 July and the new Chief of Mission
comes in. But I would hope that it would all be obligated by
the end of the year or early in calendar year 2005 at the
latest.
Senator Byrd. In the event that some 2004 funds remain
unobligated at the end of the fiscal year, do you anticipate
asking for additional Iraq reconstruction funds in a 2005
supplemental?
Secretary Powell. I do not anticipate that at this point.
At the moment we, of course, have no plans for any more
requests in 2004. And we will have to see where we are in 2005.
I believe the $18 billion was a surge of money to go into
this broken country to get things up and going; and we are
going to take care of all of our requirements through this year
and into the beginning of 2005. And then when we get into 2005,
we can make a judgment on not just Iraq, but on all the other
things the nation may be facing at that time.
Senator Byrd. Press reports indicate that the
administration will seek a new U.N. Security Council resolution
ahead of the proposed June 30 handover of power in Iraq. This
seems to make sense, as the United States needs to set a new
course and tone for the occupation mission.
In a similar vein, Congress might want to take a fresh look
at the 2002 Use of Force Authorization, which characterizes
Iraq as a tyrannical country that may be plotting to attack the
United States and which fails to take into account the changes
that have taken place in the last 18 months.
Secretary Powell, what are the administration's goals for a
new U.N. resolution?
Secretary Powell. We just started to examine what might be
in such a resolution, speculating on the kinds of elements that
would be in the resolution: some statement with respect to the
interim government and its authority; some statement of the
role expected of the United Nations to play; something having
to do with the presence of military forces from the coalition
remaining in the country. Remember, 1511 deals with that now.
What we would have to do is go through the principal
resolution we are using now, 1511, and see what has changed
over the several months since 1511 was passed. But we do not
have a written resolution yet.
Senator Byrd. Let us look at it this way. Is it just to
legitimize the U.S. military occupation after the hand-over of
power or do you seek to elevate the United Nations to have it
play the central role in Iraq's reconstruction?
Secretary Powell. We believe that the Interim Government
should play the central role in the political process going
forward. We believe that the United Nations has a vital role to
play but does not become the administrator of the country, and
does not become responsible for how we would spend our $18
billion. That remains entirely within U.S. hands, supervised by
our ambassador, the chief of mission.
Senator Byrd. Do you expect to obtain more contributions of
foreign troops for the occupation mission, and, if so, how many
and from which countries?
Secretary Powell. I cannot give you a number. My colleagues
at the Pentagon might be able to give you some estimates but
they would be nothing but estimates.
But with sovereignty returned and with a new U.N.
resolution, there are other countries in the world--not
necessarily in NATO but other countries in the world--that
might be willing to provide troops with a new U.N. resolution
and with sovereignty returned.
I cannot give you a specific list of which ones but there
are some--some that have considerable forces. In Asia, the
Pakistanis have kept the idea open. The Indians have kept the
idea open. Bangladesh has kept the idea open. Whether or not
they would in the event actually contribute remains to be seen.
But they have been interested in contributing under the
right set of circumstances with respect to U.N. support and
with respect to sovereignty being returned.
Senator McConnell. Thank you, Senator Byrd. Now, the
Secretary, I am told, has about 8 more minutes, so we will see
how far we can get. I know Senator Harkin is anxious to have
his say again.
Let me just ask quickly, Mr. Secretary: Do you support the
extension of import sanctions against Burma?
Secretary Powell. Yes, sir.
Senator McConnell. Why should U.S. taxpayers support a
flawed Khmer Rouge tribunal that relies in part upon Cambodia's
broken judicial system, one that is largely incapable of
delivering justice for human rights abuses committed in that
country today?
Secretary Powell. The only reason, Senator, is that it is
the only game, judicial game, in town. I have the same concerns
you have about the preponderance of judges as being Cambodians.
They might not mete out justice the way we would like to see it
meted out, but we will have international judges on that court
as well.
So, at least these aging defendants will be brought before
a tribunal. Whether or not they are convicted, I cannot say,
and I would not even suggest that they would be convicted. But
they will be brought before a court if this court gets up and
running and functional.
Senator McConnell. Yes. As you know, the local population,
much of it, is not very optimistic. This has got to be done in
a credible fashion.
VOICE FOR HUMANITY
One parochial matter: I want to take a moment to bring your
attention to the efforts of Voice for Humanity, which is
referred to as VFH. It is an NGO, based in my State, that uses
information technology to educate and inform illiterate and
semi-literate people.
They are in the process of initiating pilot programs in
Afghanistan and Iraq. Ambassador Bremer and Iraqi authorities
readily understand the utility and value of this technology.
I would like to propose that someone from VFH brief your
staff on their ongoing pilot programs and requests that our
U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan find time to meet with them, as
well.
Secretary Powell. Okay.
Senator McConnell. Let me add that VFH is awaiting USAID
funding for HIV/AIDS education activities in Nigeria, and the
application of this particular technology is limitless and,
again I repeat, it is an NGO.
Senator Leahy, do you want to make any additional
observations?
Senator Leahy. I do. Yes, I was thinking, Mr. Secretary,
you have been here many times. We all know each other. And I
think the rest of the country hears everybody saying, ``All is
well. Everything is going fine. We have a few bumps in the
road, but stay the course.'' We are polite with each other and
all that.
Now, I have been to a couple of briefings today, several
this week, and each time I hear that things are going well. We
read polls. Some polls say they love us. Some polls say they do
not love us but the reality is people know some things are not
going well.
This morning, the New York Times said this:
United States forces are confronting a broad-based Shiite
uprising that goes well beyond supporters of one militant
Islamic cleric, who has been the focus of American counter-
insurgency efforts, United States intelligence officials said
Wednesday.
That assertion contradicts repeated statements by the Bush
Administration and American officials in Iraq. On Wednesday,
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, General Richard Myers
said that they did not believe the United States was facing a
broad-based Shiite insurgency.
But intelligence officials now say that there is evidence
that the insurgency goes beyond Mr. Sadr and his militia. And
that a much larger number of Shiites have turned against the
American-led occupation of Iraq.
If it is the latter, we are in a heap of hurt. And it is
going to continue beyond just a few firefights and blowing up a
mosque and arresting one person. Now, which is it? Are these
intelligence sources correct or is Secretary Rumsfeld correct?
Secretary Powell. Many times in my career, I have seen
``intelligence officials'' who are unidentified, who say things
to reporters, who then say this is the truth. But I do not know
that these intelligence officials represent the truth.
Senator Leahy. Well, without even knowing the names, is
what they have reputed to have said, is it true to your
knowledge?
Secretary Powell. I have no idea what they--I cannot go to
what they are reputed to have said to a reporter.
Senator Leahy. Is it----
Secretary Powell. I will say this----
Senator Leahy. Is it true that it goes beyond--that this is
a Shiite uprising----
Secretary Powell. It is----
Senator Leahy [continuing]. That is going beyond Sadr and
his immediate followers?
Secretary Powell. It is an uprising that was originated by
Sadr and his following and the Mahdi militia, which responds to
him. Whether it is extended into the larger part of the Shiite
community is not established.
Now, has he picked up some additional individuals who were
not with them a week ago? He may have. But has he picked up the
whole Shiite community? He has not. Because there are a number
of senior officials in the Shiite community who are saying,
``Let us have calm,'' including Mr. Sistani.
So, I think it is not correct to say that what we are
seeing in the southern part of the country right now, in Al-Kut
and Najaf and places like that, represents a massive Shiite
uprising and rebellion. For the most part, it reflects the
activities of Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi militia.
Senator Leahy. You understand there is skepticism in the
country?
Secretary Powell. Yes. I am sure there will be.
Senator Leahy. I mean, our country----
Secretary Powell. Yes, I understand that.
Senator Leahy [continuing]. To say nothing about Iraq.
Secretary Powell. Yes. You just expressed it, so I accept
it. I know there is skepticism.
The fact of the matter is: It is not an either/or issue. We
know who started this. And it happened in the last couple of
weeks. This is an individual we have been worried about for
some time. Somebody who has been indicted, somebody who has
murdered or caused the murder of other individuals, and he has
a following.
Now, what we do not want to do is see this following grow.
And the way we will keep it from growing is to smash the Mahdi
militia and bring this situation under control. And that is
what the military strategy is and that is what we are about
doing.
Senator Leahy. Well, my time is up. I realize you have to
leave. I do have some follow-up questions.
These questions are serious ones. If we were going to stay
here, I would be prepared to stay all evening long to ask them,
because they are things I am concerned about, everything from
the millions of dollars we are paying for private security
guards, on through.
Senator McConnell. I think we have a couple of minutes
left. Senator Harkin, do you want to try to get your questions
in, right here at the end?
Senator Harkin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it.
HAITI
We are a signatory, Mr. Secretary, to the Santiago
agreement, are we not? And we are a member of the Organization
of American States, correct? We are a signatory to that,
international agreement, as is Haiti. The agreement states that
member nations, which we say that we agree with these other
countries, that we are going to have collective action in the
case of a sudden or irregular interruption of the democratic
political institutional process in member states. We are a
signatory of that and we did not abide by this international
agreement in Haiti.
Second, Amnesty International, according to a press
release, has spent a couple of weeks in Haiti. They point out,
that the interim government is targeting Lavalas supporters
while convicted human rights abusers have not been arrested.
The government is sending the wrong message.
Amnesty Intenational points out that Louis-Jodel Chamblain,
one of the main rebel leaders, was convicted in absentia and
sentenced to two life terms for killing Antoine Izmery and for
his involvement in the 1994 Rabateau massacre. The new justice
minister, Bernard Gousse, said Chamblain--this same man--could
be retried under Haitian law but that the government could also
pardon him.
Jean Tatoun, another rebel leader, sentenced to life--
Tatoun was in prison. He was released by a street gang last
year. Tatoun and Chamblain are free, to terrorize the Haitian
people. And yet Aristide's supporters are being, according to
Amnesty International, arrested and harassed.
Last, I want to cite a quote from Mr. Noriega, who works
for you. On March 1, Mr. Noriega said: ``The last 10 years were
all about Aristide. It was all about making apologies for his
mistakes, excuses for his violations, and compensating,
accommodating his pathological behavior, quite frankly. He is
not a typical Haitian, thank God.''
Mr. Secretary, it is below the dignity of any government
official to use those words; and certainly an assistant
secretary of state. I hope you realize how obnoxious those
words are.
What if someone were to say about Mr. Noriega, ``You are
not a typical Mexican-American. You, Mr. Secretary, are not a
typical African-American.'' This is below the dignity of anyone
that works in your office.
I will just say this, I agree with you that you--no one
handcuffed Aristide--he was not kidnaped. You were right on
that. I have said so publicly. But I do believe, after my
conversations with him and with you on that day that, he was
left with no choice.
He was told that we would not live up to our international
agreements under the Santiago agreement, that we would not
protect him from these armed thugs. Aristide disbanded the Army
in 1994, as you know, because he wanted to be like Costa Rica.
I just think that what is happening in Haiti now is a
return--as you said to me, of the rich people on the hill. The
poor people in Haiti are once again being subjugated.
From what I just heard you say a little bit ago, I thought
I heard that the Lavalas party will not be permitted to field
candidates in the next election. Is that true?
Secretary Powell. I did not say that, Senator.
Senator Harkin. I thought you said Aristide's people--
government----
Secretary Powell. No, I did not.
Senator Harkin. [continuing]. Would not be permitted to
run?
Secretary Powell. No. I said those in the government now,
in the transition government, will not be running for office in
2005. That is what the interim Prime Minister told me.
Senator Harkin. But they could?
Secretary Powell. They have made a commitment that the
ministers who are in this interim government, which is
essentially a technocratic government, they all met, and all
the opposites--met with all of the parties the night before I
got there, Sunday night, and agreed that they would have
elections for a new legislature and a new president in 2005.
Whatever municipal elections are appropriate and needed and
that those members of the interim government now, Prime
Minister Latortue and other Ministers who are in office now,
would not be candidates in that election, because they want to
be seen as a generally non-political, technocratic government
providing a bridge back to full political participation.
Now, President Aristide resigned and in a manner that was
constitutional. The resignation was given--the resignation was
given to the gentleman who was next in line of succession and
he became the president. And I met with him on Monday as well,
President Alexandre.
Senator Harkin Yes.
Secretary Powell. And then we have been following the
original CARICOM plan of putting together a group of
distinguished individuals who selected a larger group, who then
selected an interim prime minister, Mr. Latortue, who came down
from Florida to act as this bridge back to a solid political
system, we hope.
It is going to take time. It is going to take a great deal
of money. Nobody wished President Aristide more good fortune
than I did.
When I put, frankly, my life at risk, as did President
Carter, as did Senator Nunn, we went down there on a September
weekend in 1994, and spent 2 days with General Cedras and
General Biamby and the others, with hand grenades rolling all
over the place and guns in every corner and talked them out
while the 82nd Airborne was in the air, heading to Haiti.
At the same time, we were trying to cut the deal. We cut
the deal. The 82nd landed without a shot being fired and
President Aristide got a new opportunity.
I regret to say that we spent a lot of time building the
Haitian National Police. I was there a year later watching them
being built. I also watched them being torn apart by corruption
and by putting in people who were not competent.
I wish it had turned out differently. And I tried to stay
with this as long as I could, until finally it became clear
that President Aristide's actions, over a period of years, had
so contaminated the--I am sorry, Senator?
Senator Harkin. I am sorry. He was not even in office
during that period; Preval was in office.
Secretary Powell. No. Senator, he was in office from 1994
until he left.
Senator Harkin. 1995, 1 year.
Secretary Powell. He was not in office for the next several
years; but, Senator, you and I both know that he really was the
man behind the curtain during that period of time, until he
came back in--we could go through the history of the elections
of the early 2000 and that period.
Senator Harkin. I am familiar with it.
Secretary Powell. But we need not--I do not think we need
to belabor that now.
But I mean, he started to rule through the use of Shamirs.
The Haitian police was no longer effective and, essentially,
what we were being--what the international community was being
asked to do and what it wouldn't do was essentially put our
troops at his disposal, put French troops at his disposal,
Canadian troops at his disposal, CARICOM troops at his
disposal. And it was not going to happen.
Senator Harkin. Would you ask the----
Senator McConnell. Okay. Senator Harkin----
Senator Harkin. Prime Minister Latortue about Chamblain----
Secretary Powell. We have made clear--I did not ask about
the specific names but I know the names well.
Senator Harkin. I know you do.
Secretary Powell. We have made it clear--two final points,
we had made it clear to the Prime Minister that these are not
individuals we can accept in any position in public life.
Now, how they will be dealt with over time remains to be
seen. And I have no evidence that is available to me or
anything I saw in Haiti to suggest that we are seeing summary
executions on the part of the government against Lavalas
members.
Now, there is still violence in the island. Although Port-
au-Prince is relatively quiet, there are still hot spots
throughout the island that our military forces are moving into.
But summary executions by the government of Lavalas members--if
you will give me the Amnesty International information, I will
look at it.
Senator Harkin. Yes, you have your staff--I am just reading
from the Amnesty----
Senator McConnell. Yes. Well, thank you, Mr. Secretary----
Senator Harkin. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
Senator McConnell [continuing]. For extending beyond the
time we thought we would get you.
I am going to be submitting questions for the record on the
Aristide government's involvement in the drug trade and other
questions that we were unable to get to today.
Thank you, again, as we have all said----
Secretary Powell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator McConnell [continuing]. For your extraordinary
service to your country.
ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
There will be some additional questions which will be
submitted for your response in the record.
[The following questions were not asked at the hearing, but
were submitted to the Department for response subsequent to the
hearing:]
Questions Submitted by Senator Mitch McConnell
Question. What pressure has the State Department placed on the
European Union and Burma's regional neighbors to take a harder line--
including sanctions--against the SPDC?
Answer. The Administration continues diplomatic efforts, at all
levels, to encourage other nations to sustain pressure on the SPDC. We
have delivered demarches to and had senior-level exchanges with both
European Union (EU) member states and countries in the region, urging
them to use their influence to convince the SPDC to accept reform. In
public and private remarks, we have stated that the SPDC and its
policies represent an embarrassment for the region and its regional
organizations.
In 2003, the EU expanded its existing visa and travel restrictions
and its asset freeze list to identify a broader set of Burmese who
benefit from the oppressive policies of the SPDC. The EU also has in
place a ban on arms sales and limits on assistance to the government.
The EU has traditionally drafted the annual General Assembly and
Commission on Human Rights resolutions on Burma (which we have
supported). EU ``troika'' visits to Burma have drawn attention to the
continuing lack of progress on democracy and human rights issues. The
United Kingdom has called on its companies to review their investments
in Burma; two major British investors, British American Tobacco Company
and Premier Oil, have sold their investments in the country to outside
parties in the past year, and at least 18 UK companies cut ties with
Burma in 2003. No EU member state has followed our lead and imposed
economic sanctions.
ASEAN nations issued an unprecedented call for change from fellow
member state Burma at their June 2003 ministerial meeting. In mid-June,
then Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir issued a statement indicating
the Burmese government's actions were creating a ``dilemma for the
[ASEAN] organization.'' However, at their October 2003 meeting in Bali,
ASEAN states took a different path and welcomed ``positive
developments'' in Burma, including the SPDC's road map to democracy.
The United States continues its dialogue with countries in the region
and has made clear the important role that ASEAN has to play in
encouraging reform. Administration officials have noted to ASEAN
counterparts that there would not be high-level United States
participation in ASEAN events hosted by the SPDC in 2006 unless it
adopts significant reforms.
Question. How many internally displaced persons are in Burma, and
what is the United States doing to provide them with security and
humanitarian assistance?
Answer. There are an estimated 600,000 internally displaced persons
in Burma. We remain very concerned about the situation faced by these
persons.
The United States does not currently fund organizations or
individuals for work inside Burma among IDPs, although some projects
operating along the Thailand-Burma border, including health and
educational programs, do provide spillover benefits to those still in
Burma. The Burma earmark in the Fiscal Year 2004 Foreign Operations
Appropriations Act extended authorization to provide humanitarian
assistance to internally displaced persons along Burma's borders.
Although access to this population is limited, we intend to work with
USAID to try and identify opportunities to provide limited humanitarian
assistance to internally displaced persons along the border areas,
where possible.
We also support the work of international organizations, such as
the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Labor
Organization, and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
(UNHCR) that have access to these areas. In February 2004, the UNHCR
gained SPDC permission to begin work for the first time in eastern
Burma and assess conditions for the eventual repatriation of refugees
and return home of internally displaced persons. A great amount of
infrastructure will need to be in place before these persons can return
in a secure fashion.
Question. Is North Korea providing Burma with missiles or nuclear
weapons technology?
Answer. For well over a decade, there have been reports from
various sources about North Korean arms sales to Burma. These reports
have covered numerous items, including small arms, ammunition,
artillery, and missiles. We have made clear our concerns on this issue
to the Burmese Government.
Although North Korea has threatened to export nuclear materials and
their nuclear ``deterrent,'' we have seen no indication that North
Korea is providing nuclear weapons technology to Burma.
Further details on Burma and North Korea's relationship are
available in a classified report to Congress. We continue to monitor
the relationship between the two nations.
Question. Is Burma seeking to acquire a nuclear research reactor?
Answer. Burma is interested in acquiring a nuclear research
reactor. The Russians have offered to negotiate an agreement to
construct a nuclear research facility, including a reactor. Such a
facility would be placed under IAEA safeguards. To date, an agreement
has not been concluded.
Question. How can we convince the EU that its ``wait and see''
approach is flawed? (i.e., Daw Aung San Suu Kyi's release is not the
benchmark by which progress in Burma should be measured)
Answer. We have made formal demarches to and held frequent
discussions with EU counterparts on Burma and have urged them to
consider additional measures. While the EU shares our objective of a
democratic Burma and has taken a strong stand by imposing an asset
freeze and visa restrictions, its approach to advancing democracy in
that country differs from ours. No country followed our lead in
imposing an array of economic sanctions after the May 30 attack on Aung
San Suu Kyi's motorcade.
Question. What pressure can the United States exert on India--a
professed democracy--to support the struggle of freedom in Burma?
Answer. We continue to raise our concerns regarding the lack of
progress toward national reconciliation in Burma with Indian officials.
We have noted that continued instability in the form of the current
government is not in India's interests and have encouraged the Indian
Government to speak in favor of the release of Aung San Suu Kyi and
other political prisoners and to urge the SPDC toward democratic
reform. Indian officials have indicated that they share our concerns
about and goals for democracy in Burma, but they must also address
strategic realities such as China's influence in Burma. India also
confronts specific issues such as narcotrafficking and cross-border
insurgences.
Question. How do you explain the actions of Thailand, and in
particular Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, to undermine a tough
approach to Burma?
Answer. In our discussions with the Royal Thai Government (RTG), we
have emphasized that the SPDC must release Aung San Suu Kyi and all
other political prisoners, allow all parties and ethnic groups to
participate fully in the political process, and establish a realistic
timeframe for movement towards democracy in Burma.
Thailand has called for Aung San Suu Kyi's release and has worked
with other countries to encourage reform and democracy in Burma. The
``Bangkok Process'' has been organized by Thailand as a means to
finding a way forward in Burma. The SPDC, however, has not wished to
participate following the first session, where participants urged Burma
to release Aung San Suu Kyi and other political prisoners and engage in
substantive dialogue with the political opposition and ethnic groups.
Thailand is unlikely to change its policies or adopt sanctions
against Rangoon. It is engaged in a fundamental effort to improve
relations with each of its neighbors. In the case of Burma, under Prime
Minister Thaksin, the RTG has sought cooperation with Rangoon to
address numerous problems Thailand faces with its neighbor: narcotics
trafficking, migrant labor, trafficking in persons, and refugees.
Some Burmese political groups and a few NGOs have reported an
increase of official checks for proper immigration documents and of
political meetings being interrupted; however, most Burmese people and
related NGOs continue to work within Thailand without such difficulty.
Thailand continues to host approximately 140,000 Burmese refugees in
border camps. Thailand has cooperated freely with our resettlement
program for Burmese refugees that have been provided letters of concern
by UNHCR, the so-called ``urban Burmese.''
We have also encouraged Thailand to improve its migrant worker
policies, and in late April of this year, the RTG cabinet approved a
new migrant labor policy intended to match labor supply and demand
while extending basic human rights protections to the 800,000 to 2
million foreign workers from Burma, Laos, and Cambodia believed to be
in the country.
Question. What investments, including projects and activities
related to iPSTAR, do Shin Satellite and Shin Corporation have in
Burma, and/or planned for Burma?
Answer. In May 2002, Bagan Cybertech, a semi-governmental
telecommunications company in Burma, signed a $13 million agreement
with Shin Satellite to purchase a ground equipment package for the
iPSTAR satellite, including 5,000 user terminals. iPSTAR is a
subsidiary of Shin Satellite which is majority-owned by the Shin
Corporation, a Thai conglomerate largely owned by the Shinawatra
family. Once launched and operational in 2004, iPSTAR will provide
broadband Internet services to 14 countries, including India, China,
Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore,
and Burma. According to a Shin Corporation spokesman, iPSTAR's expected
revenues from Burma are small compared with those in larger and more
developed markets in the region.
In addition to iPSTAR, Shin Satellite has contracts worth
approximately $2.5 million per year with two Burmese entities. This
represents a small portion of Shin Satellite's total annual revenue of
$150 million.
The Thailand government's policy toward Burma is driven by many
factors including concern about Burmese refugees, an inflow of illegal
immigrants, the spread of disease, a history of border disputes, and
the flow of narcotics into Thailand. We doubt that this satellite deal
has much effect on Thailand's policy toward Burma.
Question. Given that Burma previously held a constitutional
convention in 1995 that was rendered meaningless by the SPDC, what
makes this one any different?
Answer. The Administration has noted consistently that for a
convention to be successful, the political opposition and ethnic groups
must support it and must be fully involved.
Question. Why should U.S. taxpayers support a flawed Khmer Rouge
Tribunal that relies, in part, upon Cambodia's broken judicial system--
one that is largely incapable of delivering justice for human rights
abuses committed today?
Answer. The Government of Cambodia originally requested assistance
from the United Nations in June 1997 to bring to justice those leaders
of the Khmer Rouge who bear responsibility for serious atrocities
committed between 1975 and 1979. Our longstanding policy has been to
support credible efforts to seek accountability for the atrocities of
the Khmer Rouge regime, under which an estimated 1.7 million people
died. Seeking justice for these egregious crimes is a critical part of
ending impunity in Cambodia.
We share your concerns about the serious flaws in the Cambodian
judiciary and continue to speak out strongly against political
violence, corruption, and the climate of impunity in Cambodia. The
proposed Khmer Rouge Tribunal, however, is designed to operate as an
Extraordinary Chambers outside of the regular Cambodian judicial
system. It will be comprised of both international and Cambodian judges
and prosecutors.
We recognize that achieving credible justice will not be easy.
Strong international support will be needed to help ensure that the
Tribunal exercises its jurisdiction in accordance with international
standards of justice, fairness, and due process. If we do not help this
Khmer Rouge Tribunal succeed, we may not have another opportunity to
bring the Khmer Rouge perpetrators to justice as many are advanced in
age or already deceased.
Question. Do Cambodian judges and legal staff have the training,
professionalism, competence and independence to effectively participate
in a tribunal of such import?
Answer. The Cambodian judicial system suffers from a lack of
resources, low salaries, and poor training. Through assistance from
NGOs and foreign governments, there have been some improvements over
the last several years. Last year, the Royal School for Judges and
Prosecutors reopened and accepted its first class of students since the
1960s. Moreover, there has been an increase in the number of lawyers,
which has resulted in significant improvements for those defendants
provided with counsel.
We are concerned about the limited capabilities of the Cambodian
judicial system. With a mix of international and Cambodian judges,
however, the Khmer Rouge Tribunal should be able to attain
international standards of justice. The Tribunal contains provisions
that are strong enough to protect the integrity of the judicial
process. Decisions in the two chambers of the Tribunal will be taken by
a majority of four in the trial court and five judges in the Supreme
Court respectively and will require the concurrence of at least one
international judge. Defendants will also have the right to counsel of
their own choosing, including foreign counsel.
Question. Is the Cambodian judicial system independent (in
practice) and free of interference from the Cambodian People's Party?
Answer. While the Cambodian Constitution provides for an
independent judiciary, in practice the courts are subject to influence
and interference by the Executive Branch. The Cambodian People's Party
is the senior partner in the coalition government that has governed
Cambodia since the 1998 elections and in a caretaker fashion since the
2003 elections.
We recognize that achieving a credible process will not be easy
given the state of the judiciary in Cambodia today. It is our hope that
with U.N. participation and strong international support the Khmer
Rouge Tribunal will be able to carry out its mandate in accordance with
international standards of justice, fairness, and due process.
Question. Does the State Department intend to facilitate the return
of the FBI to Cambodia, (as encouraged by Senators McCain, Daschle,
Leahy, McConnell, Miller, and Chambliss) and provide support throughout
the investigation?
Answer. Should the FBI seek to return to Cambodia with regard to
this case, the State Department would cooperate fully and provide all
possible support and assistance.
Question. Should senior officials of the ruling Cambodian People's
Party (CPP) be determined to be the perpetrators of that terrorist
attack, what action will the State Department take to ensure that
justice and accountability prevail?
Answer. We are not in a position to speculate on the outcome of any
investigation or what action we might hypothetically be in a position
to take at some future time.
Question. The Vietnam conflict has yet to end for 1,800 stateless
Vietnamese refugees in the Philippines--what is the administration
doing to resolve this tragedy?
Answer. Following talks in Manila in March 2004, the United States
and the Government of the Philippines reached an agreement to offer
durable solutions for certain Vietnamese nationals living in the
Philippines. Most of this group are former asylum seekers who arrived
in the Philippines in the late-1980s and early-1990s but were
previously found ineligible (screened-out) for refugee resettlement in
a third country.
In 1996, the Philippine Government decided to permit some 1,400 of
the screened-out Vietnamese to remain in the Philippines. Over the
years, there have been several Philippine legislative initiatives to
regularize the status of these individuals. To date none of these
initiatives has borne fruit.
Following the Manila talks, the USG announced it would offer
resettlement interviews to the majority of the group, many of whom have
relatives living in the United States. Vietnamese married to Filipino
citizens and their children will not be eligible for this program. In
addition, Vietnamese previously found to be ineligible for admission to
the United States because of fraud or who have a record of criminal
activity will not be considered for United States resettlement.
The Philippines has agreed, consistent with its law, to offer
residency to those Vietnamese married to Filipino nationals and to make
best efforts to offer residency to other Vietnamese ineligible or
inadmissible for resettlement in the United States.
Question. How would you characterize Pakistan's efforts to
militarily engage Taliban Remnants and Foreign Fighters on Pakistani
soil?
Answer. Pakistan has shown its willingness to take on Taliban and
al-Qaeda forces long entrenched in the tribal community of the
Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) when it conducted its South
Waziristan operation in mid-March 2004. With a force of about 17,000
troops, Pakistan conveyed its seriousness to tribal chiefs who in the
past were prone to disregard demands from Islamabad. The operation cost
Pakistan over 50 troops, and while it did not succeed in capturing high
value targets, it did disrupt Taliban/al-Qaeda attacks on Operation
Enduring Freedom forces. The Government of Pakistan has publicly stated
that the current pause is tactical and that the operation will continue
until all foreign militants in the region are accounted for.
Question. Has the United States been given direct access to the
``father'' of Pakistan's nuclear bomb A.Q. Khan?
Answer. The Government of Pakistan is conducting its own
investigation of the A.Q. Khan network. It has shared with us--and
agreed to continue to share with us--information it develops from that
investigation.
Question. Do we have a complete understanding of the extent of
Khan's illicit activities?
Answer. We have extensive knowledge of the A.Q. Khan network, but
we do not yet assess that we have a complete understanding. As the
President has said, the information we know about the A.Q. Khan network
was pieced together over several years by American and British
intelligence officers, who identified the network's key experts,
agents, and money men and mapped the extent of its operations. Other
governments around the world have also worked closely with us to
unravel the network and put an end to its activities. In particular,
the Government of Pakistan has shared with us--and agreed to continue
to share with us--information it develops from its investigation into
the A.Q. Khan network. We have learned much about this network and the
international black market in weapons of mass destruction and related
technologies. We continue to gather information to develop a complete
picture of Khan's activities and the damage they have caused.
Question. President Musharraf has been the target of several
assassination attempts--do we know who is behind these attacks and who
is the likely successor to Musharraf should he be incapacitated?
Answer. Pakistan is actively investigating the two attempted
assassinations of President Musharraf, but no charges have been filed,
as of yet. The Pakistani Constitution calls for the Speaker of the
National Assembly to succeed the President should the latter be
incapacitated. President Musharraf is also Chief of Army Staff. Since
army succession in Pakistan closely follows seniority, he would be
succeeded in that office, should he be incapacitated, by the Chief of
Army Staff.
Question. How do you assess the state of democracy in Pakistan
today?
Answer. Democracy in Pakistan remains in a nascent stage, a work in
progress. We believe that President Musharraf and the Government of
Pakistan have taken some positive steps in bolstering democracy, but
certainly much more work lies ahead. Pakistan held national elections
in October 2002, which albeit flawed, brought elected representatives
back into Pakistan's Government.
After more than a year of wrangling over the legality of the Legal
Framework Order that enabled President Musharraf to concurrently serve
as president and remain as the Army Chief of Staff, the Government and
political opposition reached a compromise, setting the stage for the
return of parliamentarians in early 2004. A similar compromise was
reached on the newly established National Security Council. We note
that President Musharraf has pledged to give up his Army Chief of Staff
position by the end of 2004.
The only significant legislation passed by the new legislature so
far has been passage of the annual budget bill, but we are hopeful that
legislators will soon pass other important bills, including anti-money
laundering and fiscal responsibility laws. New elections are scheduled
for 2007 and we are working to ensure that they will be conducted in a
fair and transparent manner in accordance with international standards.
We have called on the Government of Pakistan to continue efforts to
bolster democracy, and have encouraged Pakistan to expedite
implementing its ``devolution'' plan to devolve political power and
budget resources from the central government to provincial and local
governments. We remain concerned about reports of Pakistan's
intimidation of opposition political leaders and journalists. We have
urged the Government of Pakistan to ensure that opposition political
leader Javed Hashmi, recently sentenced to seven years in prison
following a sedition conviction, receive fair and transparent justice
while his appeals process continues. Helping Pakistan build democracy
remains a core concern, and along with healthcare, education, and
continued economic reforms, is the focus of our USAID assistance
program. One program is helping to train newly elected female
parliamentarians to effectively draft and pass legislation reflecting
constituents' concerns. Our Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor
also is coordinating with USAID and our Embassy in Islamabad to work on
additional reforms.
Question. What portion of economic assistance continued in the
fiscal year 2005 budget request for Pakistan is intended as budget
support for the government of Pakistan?
Answer. To support President Musharraf's vision of a moderate,
democratic, and prosperous Pakistan at peace with itself and its
neighbors, we are providing substantial assistance to Pakistan,
including a request by the President for a multi-year security
assistance/development package to address short and long-term needs.
Following the President's June 2003 meeting with Musharraf, he pledged
to work with Congress to provide Pakistan $3 billion in assistance for
fiscal year 2005-fiscal year 2009, half for security assistance and
half for economic support and social programs. Our plan for fiscal year
2005 would provide up to $200 million/year in ESF for non-project
assistance (budgetary support and/or possibly debt relief), at least
$100 million for social sector programs, and $300 million in FMF to
improve Pakistani military/counter terror capabilities. Thus, two-
thirds of the $300 million in development-focused funds would be
provided as budget support and one-third would be provided for similar
development objectives through USAID's ongoing bilateral programs,
which focus on improving education, healthcare, democracy, and economic
development. Discussions with the Government of Pakistan continue on
how to use the proposed assistance most effectively.
Question. How will the United States monitor the use of likely
budget support funds to ensure that they are used as intended?
Answer. Shortly after the President proposed a multiyear assistance
package in June 2003, the USG initiated a series of discussions with
the Government of Pakistan on how to best ensure that budget support is
most effectively and properly used, drawing on lessons learned in
providing a $600 million non-project grant in the fall of 2001. While
these discussions are ongoing, we have developed a series of shared
objectives that build upon the Pakistan Government's own Poverty
Reduction Strategy Plan (PRSP). The PRSP focuses on many of the same
issues of chief concern to the United States, seeks to resolve
pervasive long-term poverty by improving Pakistan's under-funded basic
education and health sectors, and recognizes the need to continue
disciplined budget policies. We also are coordinating with the British,
Japanese, and World Bank in setting development goals in our shared
objectives. In addition to tracking funds using traditional USAID
audits, we envision using an interagency review process in conjunction
with Pakistan's annual Development Forum meetings to track Pakistan's
progress on achieving the agreed upon goals.
Question. How supportive have Arab states been in pledging--and
fulfilling pledges--for the reconstruction of Afghanistan?
Answer. According to the most recent figures compiled by the
Government of Afghanistan (GOA), Saudi Arabia has pledged the most
among Gulf States--$230 million from 2001-2004, mostly in the form of
concessional loans--but only a small portion--about $42 million--has so
far been disbursed. We remain hopeful that Saudi Arabia will follow-
through on its previous commitment to provide $30 million in
concessional loans for road construction of a segment along the
Kandahar-Herat highway.
Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE have all made offers of assistance to
Afghanistan, but only a small fraction of these pledges have
materialized into actual project assistance. However, in some cases
direct bilateral humanitarian aid and assistance-in-kind has been
substantial.
We remain actively engaged on this issue and are involved in
ongoing efforts to encourage increased assistance from the Gulf States
to Afghanistan.
Question. According to Afghan Finance Ministry figures, France
pledged a paltry $99.4 million for the reconstruction of Afghanistan
through March 2009 (only $24 million more than the PRC). Should France
shoulder a greater burden in this effort?
Answer. The French generally do not make out-year pledges of
assistance to third countries. The $99.4 million reflects the amounts
that the French Government has pledged through 2004. We expect the
French will make additional contributions in the coming years. In
addition, the French Government intends to give euros 1 million to
Afghanistan via the UNDP to assist with the ``electoral process.''
Question. Are al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups profiting from the
drug trade in Afghanistan, where 2003 estimates for the opium poppy
crop topped 61,000 hectares?
Answer. We do not know to what extent al-Qaeda profits from the
drug trade in Afghanistan. U.S. Government agencies have anecdotal
reports of drug trafficking by elements of al-Qaeda, but there is no
evidence that such activities are centrally directed. Al-Qaeda
continues to rely on private donations and funding sources other than
narco-trafficking for most of its income, and there is no corroborated
information in U.S. Government holdings to suggest that drug
trafficking provides a significant percentage of al-Qaeda's income. We
remain deeply concerned about the possibility that substantial drug
profits might flow to al-Qaeda, however, and continue to be vigilant
for signs that this is occurring.
The involvement of anti-government Afghan extremists in the drug
trade is clearer. U.S. troops in 2002 raided a heroin lab in Nangarhar
Province linked to the Hizb-I Islami Gulbuddin and officials from the
United Nations and the Afghan Government report that the Taliban earns
money from the heroin trade. Based on the information available,
however, we cannot quantify how much these groups earn from the drug
trade, nor can we determine what percentage of their overall funding
comes from drugs.
In addition, extremists and terrorists in Afghanistan may sometimes
turn to the same network of professional smugglers used by drug
traffickers for help moving personnel, material, and money.
Question. What is the proposed fiscal year 2005 U.S. contribution
to counter-narcotics efforts, and does this amount represent our ``fair
share'' given that the vast majority of drugs are destined for Europe?
Answer. The State Department's fiscal year 2005 budget request to
Congress contains $90 million for International Narcotics and Law
Enforcement (INCLE), $22 million of which will be devoted and used
specifically for counter-narcotic programs.
The United States Government, working closely behind the lead of
the United Kingdom, has taken an active stance against poppy
cultivation, narcotics production, and trafficking. Drug cultivation
and trafficking undermine the rule of law and provide an income source
for terrorist activities. The drug trade is hindering the ability of
the Afghan people to rebuild their country and rejoin the international
community, and it is having deleterious effects on the abilities of
neighboring countries to control their borders and exercise effective
law enforcement measures. It is in the interest of all nations to fight
the drug trade.
Question. Do you share my view that the people of Afghanistan are
better off today than they were under the Taliban?
Answer. Absolutely. Afghanistan is in the midst of a historic
transition. Less than three years ago the Taliban ruled over all of
Afghanistan through a rigid Islamic absolutism that denied many
fundamental human rights, including allowing women to work or go to
school. Today, under the steady leadership of President Karzai, the
country has taken enormous strides and now looks ahead to September
elections that will mark another milestone on Afghanistan's journey as
a stable, contributing member of the global community.
In January, an ethnically and gender diverse Loya Jirga adopted a
new, progressive constitution that guarantees human rights, including
those of women. Hundreds of schools and health clinics have been
constructed and rehabilitated, and school attendance for girls and boys
increased to a record three million last year. Infrastructure
improvements are also in full force, the most prominent evidence of
this being the December 2003 completion of the 389 km Kabul-Kandahar
highway, a U.S.-led project linking Afghanistan's two largest cities;
construction is soon to begin on the next phase, Kandahar to Herat.
The results of Afghanistan's improved security environment are also
becoming more visible. The Afghan National Army is steadily coalescing
into a true national defense force. Police are being trained to provide
day-to-day security in the provinces and in Kabul. And last August NATO
assumed leadership of the ISAF peacekeeping force, an unprecedented
move for the alliance that subsequently led to the first step of ISAF
expansion outside Kabul with the decision by Germany to staff the
Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT) in Konduz with troops. In total,
thirteen PRTs have now been established to provide a security and
reconstruction presence in the provinces, and more are scheduled to
open within the next six months.
Question. What is the current strength of the Afghan National Army
(ANA), and what do you expect the anticipated strength of the ANA to be
a year from now?
Answer. The total ANA force now numbers 8,900 troops. At the
current training rate, the ANA force should grow within one year to
approximately 18,000 so long as the necessary resources remain
available to train, equip, arm, and provide infrastructure for new
troops.
Question. What is your view of the professionalism and capabilities
of the ANA, and what are the retention rates?
Answer. The ANA has been positively received by Afghans across the
nation. Ethnically diverse and demonstrating a level of professionalism
most Afghans are not familiar with from their experiences with armed
militias, ANA troops are often initially mistaken by the population as
a foreign army.
The ANA has performed admirably in successfully carrying out recent
stability operations for the Afghan central government in Herat and
Faryab provinces. They have also helped with removing heavy weapons
from Kabul (part of the disarmament, demobilization, and reintegration
(DDR) process), and have participated alongside OEF forces in missions
in the East and South.
As the ANA has gradually gained institutional momentum and general
acceptance of it as the new national army has grown, attrition rates
have stabilized at around 2 percent.
Question. Do you believe that the recent interpretation of the
Basic Law by the National People's Congress in Beijing that gives the
NPC total control over direct elections in Hong Kong undermines the
premise of ``One Country, Two Systems?''
Answer. Hong Kong continues to have day-to-day authority over its
affairs under the ``One Country, Two Systems'' formula. The NPC's
decision does, however, have important implications for the dialogue
among the Hong Kong Special Autonomous Region (SAR) Government, the
Chinese government, and the Hong Kong people over the future of Hong
Kong's electoral process. As the people of Hong Kong have shown in the
past through the July 1, 2003 and January 1, 2004 demonstrations--a
well informed electorate will continue to make its voice heard on
issues that affect the future governance of the territory. We hope the
authorities in Beijing and the Hong Kong SAR will make meeting the
aspirations of the people of Hong Kong for democratization a top
priority.
Question. How will this interpretation of the Basic Law by the NPC
impact cross Strait relations--can you think of any reason why
Taiwanese will believe in the ``one country, two systems'' mantra?
Answer. It will not have a positive effect. Taiwan's Mainland
Affairs Council issued a statement on April 7 warning that China's
efforts to apply its authority vis-a-vis Hong Kong's political reforms
will undermine freedom in the special administrative zone.
In the final analysis, the Taiwan issue is for people on both sides
of the Strait to resolve. This is the only way a peaceful and durable
solution can be found. We continue to urge Beijing and Taipei to pursue
dialogue as soon as possible through any available channels, without
preconditions.
In the absence of a political dialogue, we encourage the two sides
to increase bilateral interactions of every sort.
Question. What additional programs and activities does the United
States fund to support the advancement of democracy in Hong Kong?
Answer. The United States supports a variety of programs in Hong
Kong that reach out to the political, economic, and academic leadership
to promote the democratization process. For example, Consul General
James Keith proactively and frequently engages Hong Kong media to
support the advancement of democracy in Hong Kong, and his interviews
and editorials consistently reach mass audiences. Further, the United
States has programmed close to 30 United States speakers since May 2003
to help promote democracy in Hong Kong; the United States Fulbright
program in Hong Kong is especially active; and the International
Visitor exchange program is renowned among Hong Kong's professional
civil service. In addition to these programs, the United States
recently opened an American Corner at the University of Macau to expand
public diplomacy outreach throughout the region.
Question. Do you believe, as mainland China asserts, that the
United States is interfering in Hong Kong's ``internal affairs?''
Answer. Our engagement reflects our well-established commercial,
social and cultural interests in Hong Kong as well as our history of
friendship based on shared values. 1100 American companies are based in
Hong Kong along with 50,000 American citizens. The United States also
has a legal obligation under the 1990 Hong Kong-Policy Act to monitor
the progress of democratization in Hong Kong, which we continue to
discuss in our annual report to Congress.
Question. What do the razor thin presidential victory of the
Democratic Progressive Party (0.2 percent margin) and the increase in
the DPP's share of the popular vote (up to 50 percent in 2004 from 39
percent in 2000) mean for the forces of independence in Taiwan?
Answer. The 2004 presidential election was a testament to Taiwan's
vibrant democracy. More than eighty percent of eligible Taiwan voters
turned out to participate in a free and fair selection of their next
President after a vigorous campaign that highlighted a wide range of
economic, political and social issues. Although the margin of victory
was only one-fifth of one percent and the attempted assassination of
President Chen and Vice President Lu marred the election campaign's
final days, the people of Taiwan behaved well and with restraint.
In 2000, President Chen said in his inaugural address that so long
as the PRC does not intend to use force, he would not declare
independence, not change the national title, not push the inclusion of
``state to state'' relations in the constitution, not promote a
referendum to change the status quo on independence or unification, or
abolish the National Unification Council (the ``five no's.'') He
repeated the ``five no's'' during the Presidential campaign. We
appreciate and take very seriously President Chen's pledge and his
subsequent reaffirmations of it. We do not interpret his victory as a
strengthening of the ``forces of indenpendence'' in Taiwan.
Question. How can the United States partner with Taiwan to advance
democracy throughout the region?
Answer. We applaud the success of democracy in Taiwan and the
dedication of Taiwan's people to the rule of law. The United States
strongly supports Taiwan's democracy and development of an open society
under the rule of law. Taiwan is a success story for democracy in Asia
and around the world. We feel strongly that others can benefit from
knowing more about Taiwan's achievements. We will explore with our
friends in Taiwan interested non-governmental organizations how they
may be able to promote Taiwan's story to a global audience, and how we
can help to make Taiwan's instructive example available to all
countries that are attempting to institute democratic reforms and the
rule of law.
Question. What specific action has the State Department taken to
safeguard Burmese Refugees and Burmese organizations in Thailand from
Thaksin's crackdown on Burma's democratic opposition?
Answer. The Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration funds
UNHCR which provides protection to 140,000 Burmese refugees resident in
nine camps in Thailand. UNHCR also issues protection letters to Burmese
who are living outside the camps in Thailand who they find to be
``persons of concern.''
In fiscal year 2003, the United States provided over $5 million in
humanitarian assistance to Burmese refugees in camps in Thailand and
over $3 million for democracy promotion activities, many of which take
place in Thailand. Some NGO groups have reported difficulties in
operating along the border due to stricter Royal Thai Government
policies; the RTG has responded positively when we have raised these
issues.
Question. Is Thailand deporting (either formally or informally)
Burmese nationals to Burma at a rate of 10,000 per month, as reported
by Human Rights Watch? What is the fate of these deported Burmese?
Answer. We do not have figures for the total number of deportations
of Burmese nationals by Thai immigration officials. Burmese nationals
who are not registered residents of refugee camps are subject to
deportation back to Burma, both formally or informally. Migrants who
are informally deported are not returned directly to Burmese
authorities; they are taken to the border and released. Many are able
to evade Burmese authorities and re-enter Thailand. Those who are
formally deported are directly handed over to Burmese authorities and,
in some cases, may suffer reprisals. UNHCR works with Thai authorities
to ensure that Burmese who have been designated as persons of concern
are not formally deported back to Burma. We are looking into recent
reports that Thai officials may have deported individuals that UNHCR
has designated as persons of concern.
Question. How do you assess the recent actions of the UNHCR in
Burma--is UNHCR serving as a forceful champion for Burmese refugees?
Answer. We believe UNHCR is fulfilling its mandate in protecting
Burmese refugees. In February 2004, UNHCR entered into an agreement
with the Government of Burma to begin initial efforts in the east of
the country to create conditions that could eventually allow the
voluntary return of 140,000 refugees from camps in neighboring
Thailand. UNHCR has repeatedly stated that it will not take part in the
repatriation of Burmese to Burma until three conditions are met: ``(1)
a credible cease-fire agreement between the SPDC and the Karen National
Union; (2) the development of an infrastructure in townships that far
exceeds current conditions; and (3) an international protection
presence set up to monitor continuously any repatriation and
integration.'' UNHCR has underlined that the current situation is not
conducive to refugee returns and that it currently seeks only to
improve basic health, education, and community services.
UNHCR's access to the eastern part of Burma can serve to increase
transparency and offer the outside world a view into events in that
region.
Question. Why is the United States initiating refugee resettlement
of Burmese refugees, absent a clear understanding with Thaksin's
government on the treatment of Burmese in Thailand?
Answer. Since 1990, the USG has been resettling Burmese refugees
from Thailand. Initially, the United States and other resettlement
countries, such as Canada, Australia, and others, offered refugee
resettlement consideration primarily to Burmese students/dissidents who
fled to Thailand following the violent suppression of pro-democracy
forces in 1988. In addition, over the years the USG has processed other
Burmese refugees identified by the United Nations High Commissioner for
Refugees (UNHCR) office in Thailand as requiring protection provided by
third-country resettlement.
In February 2004, the USG began a resettlement initiative for
certain UNHCR-recognized Burmese refugees living in urban areas. In
2003, the Royal Thai Government (RTG) had indicated that it wanted all
Burmese refugees to reside in the border camps. For security and
protection reasons there are currently some 3,500 Burmese refugees
living in urban areas within Thailand. UNHCR proposed to the RTG that
these Burmese refugees be processed for resettlement in third-
countries. When the RTG agreed, UNHCR referred the first 1,400 to the
United States for resettlement processing in February. The first of
these refuges approved for United States resettlement arrived in the
United States on May 26. UNHCR has indicated that it will refer some
1,500 additional urban Burmese refugees to the United States later this
summer. In addition, UNHCR has indicated that it plans to refer several
hundred other urban Burmese refugees to other countries that have
indicated an interest in participating in this resettlement initiative.
Even though Thailand is not a signatory to the 1951 U.N. Convention
on the Status of Refugees or its 1967 Protocol, for decades the RTG has
provided temporary asylum to hundreds of thousands of Burmese,
Indochinese, and asylum seekers from other countries.
Regarding Burmese refugees in Thailand, in general, Thailand has
been a generous host to Burmese asylum seekers. Thailand presently
limits temporary asylum to those Burmese fleeing active fighting and we
continue to urge the RTG to expand its definition, because of
conditions in Burma, and grant temporary sanctuary to any Burmese
genuinely seeking protection from persecution or other forms of serious
harassment or discriminatory treatment. We also continue to encourage
the RTG to accede to the Refugee Convention and its 1967 Protocol.
Question. Does the relocation of these refugees help fulfill the
objectives of the SPDC to permanently remove Burmese from the border
areas?
Answer. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees-led
resettlement effort for the urban Burmese is for some 3,500 Burmese
refugees who have been living in urban areas in Thailand for years. The
1,400 individuals that the United States has processed to date
primarily live in and around Bangkok with a few hundred of these
refugee applicants residing in other urban areas in Thailand. These
urban Burmese refugees are living entirely separate from the some
142,000 Burmese refugees residing in camps on the Thai-Burma border.
Question. How concerned are you with the reported backsliding of
Thailand's democratic traditions--specifically, freedom of the press
and human rights abuses?
Answer. The Department's 2003 Thailand Country Report on Human
Rights noted that the Thai constitution provides for freedom of speech
and of the press, and the Thai Government generally respected these
rights in practice; however incidents of harassment and intimidation of
journalists continued to occur. Journalists generally were free to
comment on governmental activities without fear of official reprisal,
although there were attempts by the Thai Government to curb journalists
or publications perceived to be critical of government officials or
their families. In addition, the media practiced some self-censorship.
The report also concluded that the Thai Government's human rights
record worsened with regard to extra-judicial killings and arbitrary
arrests. We continue to urge the Royal Thai Government frequently and
at high levels to thoroughly and credibly investigate all killings from
last year's anti-drug campaign and to bring to justice those
responsible for wrongdoing.
We are also following the Thai Government's investigation of the
disappearance of noted Muslim human rights lawyer Somchai Ninphaijit in
March 2004. Thai prosecutors have filed charges against several Thai
police officials accused of participating in the disappearance, and a
trial is underway.
Question. What is the relationship between Thai King Bhumipol and
Prime Minister Thaksin, and are there any indications that the King is
concerned with Thaksin's potential business conflict of interests in
Thai domestic and foreign policy?
Answer. King Bhumipol, who has been on the throne since 1946, is
the head of state and commands enormous popular respect and moral
authority. Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra took office in February
2001. As the head of government, the Prime Minister consults regularly
with the King.
We have no information on King Bhumipol's views on Prime Minister
Thaksin's business interests.
Question. What is the status of talks between Armenia and
Azerbaijan over the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, and how does the passing
of Azeri President Heydar Aliyev impact prospects for reconciliation?
Answer. Heydar Aliyev was a singular figure in the South Caucasus
and his death could not help but alter the tone course of negotiations.
In fact, the late president's protracted decline in health became an
obstacle to negotiations for much of 2003, for the simple reason that
he was not physically well enough to be deeply engaged on the issue.
However, President Ilham Aliyev has continued both his father's path
towards the West and the negotiations between Armenia and Azerbaijan
dedicated to solving the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh. Both sides
have agreed the dispute should be resolved peacefully. We are
cautiously encouraged that the two sides may each be ready to resume a
more regular series of discussions on the matter. In addition to direct
negotiations between President Aliyev and President Kocharian, a
recurring series of talks at the foreign minister level has been
initiated to explore different settlement modalities.
Question. Does current Azeri President Ilham Aliyev have the
political weight and clout of his father to pursue negotiations over
the N-K conflict?
Answer. While it is true that the late President Heydar Aliyev had
a unique stature in Azerbaijani politics and society, President Ilham
Aliyev has shown himself willing and able to continue negotiations
aimed at finding a peaceful settlement to the conflict over Nagorno-
Karabakh.
Question. Given the strong Congressional interests of parity
between Armenia and Azerbaijan, how do you explain the $6 million
difference in FMF assistance to those countries?
Answer. The matter of FMF allocation to Armenia and Azerbaijan is
currently under review at the State Department. Armenia and Azerbaijan
are each important partners of the United States. The Administration
believes that building up Azerbaijan's maritime security capabilities
is important in order to prevent the transit of destabilizing
contraband or terrorists through the Caspian Sea zone. The
Administration's increased FMF request for fiscal year 2005 is aimed,
in large part, at countering that threat. FMF will also enhance
Azerbaijan's capabilities to participate in international peacekeeping
efforts. Azerbaijan currently has peacekeeping troops deployed to Iraq,
Afghanistan and Kosovo.
We hope to be able to enhance our security relationship with
Armenia in order to do more in the peacekeeping area there. We
frequently encourage the Armenian Government to permit closer military
cooperation with the United States and to permit the United States to
conduct an assessment of its armed forces. It will be difficult to
usefully spend more FMF in Armenia until we do a more thorough
assessment of Armenia's resources and needs to become more
interoperable with United States and NATO forces.
Question. How do you assess Armenia's partnership in the war
against international terrorism? How does this compare to Azerbaijan's
partnership?
Answer. Armenia is a serious partner in the global war on
terrorism. Armenian officials, including the President, regularly speak
out condemning terrorism. Armenia has recently modernized its laws to
specifically criminalize terrorism. Stronger counterterrorism financing
laws are under consideration. Several domestic terror suspects were
tried and convicted in 2003. Armenia is a party to 9 of the 12
international conventions and protocols relating to terrorism.
Azerbaijan is also a contributing partner in the global war on
terror and has taken significant strides to strengthen its
counterterrorism posture. Azerbaijan has joined all 12 international
conventions and protocols relating to terrorism, including four for
which Azerbaijan's accession was notified after the 2003 Patterns of
Global Terrorism report went to press. Azerbaijan has recently
accomplished important steps in combating terrorist finance, has
rendered terrorism suspects to foreign governments for prosecution, and
shown some success in disrupting terrorist networks seeking to transit
Azerbaijani territory.
We caution against attempting direct comparisons between any two
countries' counter-terrorism efforts, as each faces different
challenges in the war on terror and has different capabilities. We
refer you to the State Department Report ``Patterns of Global
Terrorism,'' which characterizes Armenia and Azerbaijan's cooperation
in the global war on terrorism in more depth.
Question. How best can the United States encourage Russia to ``stay
the course'' in the advancement of democracy and press freedoms?
Answer. A historic positive transformation has occurred in Russia
during the twelve years since the collapse of the Soviet Union. In the
1990s, Russians acquired basic freedoms, such as expression, religion
and the ability to choose their leaders through elections. However, the
pattern of official pressure on the independent broadcast media,
irregularities in elections, and the arrest and detention of prominent
individuals such as Mikhail Khodorkovskiy have raised questions about
Russia's commitment to democracy and the rule of law.
In January of this year, I addressed all of these issues directly
with President Putin and in an article published in a leading Russian
newspaper. I noted in my article that Russia's political system seems
not to have found essential balance among the executive, legislative
and judicial branches of government. I pointed out that key aspects of
civil society, free media and political party development have not yet
obtained an independent presence in Russia. While in Moscow, I also
emphasized that the United States wants a robust partnership with
Russia, but that without a basis of common principles, the United
States-Russian relationship will fail to reach its potential.
Through our continued engagement and our assistance programs, the
United States has played a key role in supporting the development of a
vibrant and diverse range of civil society organizations, independent
media outlets and other institutions necessary for democratic values
and institutions to flourish. Ambassador Vershbow and our embassy in
Moscow actively advocate on behalf of improving respect for human
rights, fundamental freedoms, and democratic institutions.
In the current environment, which is less than supportive of these
values and institutions, we must continue to engage on the policy front
and provide assistance to those in Russia who are pushing harder than
ever to advance democracy. Ultimately, it is up to the Russians to
determine the kind of political system in which they live, but our
support--moral and financial--makes a significant difference.
Question. Is the fiscal year 2005 budget request of $79.5 million
sufficient to support ongoing political and economic reforms in Russia?
Answer. This request is adequate to support critical economic and
political reforms. Given the large capital inflows from oil and gas
revenues to Russia over the past several years, it is necessary to
assess the relevance of our assistance and where it makes a strategic
difference. Russia has the capacity to finance economic reforms if it
has the political will to do so. We intend to reduce funding for
economic programs next year with a goal of phasing-out economic
assistance the following year, in 2006. We are concerned, however, that
Russia's commitment to democracy and rule of law has come into
question. We therefore plan to focus more of our funding on programs
that support civil society, independent media, the rule of law and
democratic practices.
Question. Given an increasingly tense political environment, is
democracy promotion in Russia best handled by the National Endowment
for Democracy?
Answer. We share your concern about the political environment in
Russia and, particularly in this environment, consider it important to
maintain a diversified approach to democracy promotion in Russia that
includes a range of partners inside and outside of the country.
NED's grant support to non-governmental organizations (NGOs) in
Russia complements the extensive efforts of the U.S. Embassy and USAID
to support a wide range of democracy assistance, including promoting
open and competitive political processes, an independent media, human
rights, tolerance and improved civic participation in local governance.
These programs are carried out by such experienced United States
implementers as Internews, IREX, NDI, IRI, ABA/CEELI and, increasingly,
by Russian partners. The Embassy also provides direct grants for
democracy-building initiatives directly through the Democracy
Commission Small Grants program (topping out at $24,000, these are
typically smaller than NED grants).
The United States democracy assistance program for Russia is
strengthened by the on-the-ground presence of the United States Mission
and by coordination in Washington. We believe that the fact that the
United States Mission to Russia is directly engaged in democracy
assistance sends an important signal to activists as well as to the
government. So far, USAID and the Embassy have encountered little
explicit resistance from Russian or local federal authorities against
these programs. Unless this situation becomes significantly more
aggravated, it would be well worth continuing these programs as many of
them provide key Russian democracy activists with the only source of
domestic or international grant funding available to them at present.
We highly value the contribution made by the National Endowment for
Democracy (NED). Indeed, the Department of State has supplemented NED's
core funding with FREEDOM Support Act (FSA) funds for Russia since
fiscal year 2002. In fiscal year 2004, we will provide $2 million of
FSA funds to NED for work in Russia.
Question. Will the recent political changes in Georgia be taken
into consideration for the purposes of additional assistance under the
Millennium Challenge Account?
Answer. We hope that the Millennium Challenge Corporation will take
into account the changes emerging in Georgia after the Rose Revolution.
President Saakashvili has made control of corruption a very high
priority: his actions already back up his words. We would support an
MCC decision to include Georgia in the eligible countries for fiscal
year 2004 funding to underpin the new government's commitments. The
decision, however, will be up to the Millennium Challenge Board.
Question. What is your response to the recent decision of Serbian
lawmakers to provide Slobodan Milosevic and other war crime indictees--
and their families--with financial support and other benefits?
Answer. Our understanding is that the recent law codifies practices
that had been in effect in Serbia and Montenegro as a matter of policy.
These policies have included support for family members of Serbian
defendants who are in the custody of the International Criminal
Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY)--allowances for travel,
telephone calls, the right to collect wages or pension payments due the
indictee, and assistance with the defense expenses of some defendants.
Croatia and Bosnia also make such assistance available to ICTY
indictees, in order to induce them to surrender and submit to the
Tribunal's jurisdiction.
The new law, which has proved very controversial with the Serbian
public, is currently under review by the Constitutional Court, and
there are strong signals that some of the provisions will be
overturned.
In the past, assistance was available only for families of those
defendants who had voluntarily surrendered to the Tribunal. It appears
that the new legislation would make this assistance available to all
defendants who are in The Hague. The Finance Minister, who is opposed
to certain provisions in the law, is proposing restrictive regulations
to implement the law.
We cannot speculate as to what led the Serbian Parliament to pass
this legislation. Rather than focusing on assistance that the Serbian
Government might wish to extend to defendants who are already in ICTY
custody, our primary concern is that fugitive ICTY indictees, including
especially Ratko Mladic, are finally brought to justice before the
Tribunal without further delay, a point that the U.S. Government
continues to stress in all our meetings with Serbian officials.
Question. ``What impact has the removal of HAMAS leader Yassin had
on that terrorist organization, and on terrorism against Israel?''
Answer. HAMAS is a designated terrorist organization. There is no
question that the group continues to promote violence and instability
in the Middle East, and its activities remain a major obstacle to the
pursuit of Middle East peace. Following the death of Sheikh Yassin,
HAMAS vowed revenge against Israel, as it did following the death of
leader Abdel Aziz Rantissi on April 17. Since that time, HAMAS has
continued its efforts to operationalize terrorist attacks inside Israel
proper. Hamas recently claimed its first successful lethal rocket
attack on 28 June, when a Qassam rocket launched from northern Gaza
struck the Israeli town of Sderot, killing a 49 year-old man and a 3
year-old child.
israel/egypt
Question. Is the United States considering increased aid to the
Palestinians for Gaza after an Israeli withdrawal?
Answer. The United States has devoted significant development and
humanitarian resources to the West Bank and Gaza, with nearly $75
million in Economic Support Funds provided in fiscal year 2004 and
another $75 million requested for fiscal year 2005. Total USAID
assistance to the West Bank and Gaza since 1993 is over $1.3 billion.
In addition, in 2004, we are providing $88 million to the U.N. Relief
and Works Agency (UNRWA) general fund for its programs to assist 4.1
million registered Palestinian refugees, 1.6 million of whom live in
West Bank and Gaza. The United States remains the largest donor to
UNRWA. Also, the United States contributed $20 million in February 2004
from the President's Emergency Relief and Migration Assistance account
to UNRWA's emergency appeal for refugees in West Bank and Gaza, and we
are considering another contribution to the appeal.
No decisions have been made about future levels of assistance. In
the event of Israeli withdrawal, the United States will join with
others in the international community to foster the development of
democratic political institutions and new leadership committed to those
institutions, the reconstruction of civic institutions, the growth of a
free and prosperous economy, and the building of capable security
institutions dedicated to maintaining law and order an dismantling
terrorist organizations.
Question. Will such increased aid (to Palestinians) be conditioned
on Palestinian efforts to eliminate HAMAS and Islamic Jihad terrorism?
Answer. This question has been sent to USAID for response.
The committee notes that no response was received.
Question. What conditionality has been placed on fiscal year 2003
supplemental funding for Egypt ($300 million), and will similar
conditions be placed on the fiscal year 2005 budge request for Egypt?
Answer. We have placed the following conditions on the Government
of Egypt for the disbursement of fiscal year 2003 Supplemental funding.
These conditions were included in our April 2 Congressional
Notification on this topic and were negotiated between our two
governments in a cooperative manner. It is worth noting that the
disbursement of the supplemental funds is still awaiting final
signature on a joint MOU between our two governments.
1. Implement a fully floating exchange rate supported by
appropriate monetary policies:
--Re-affirm the government's public commitment to allow banks and
foreign exchange bureaus that are in compliance with prudential
regulations to freely set exchange rates.
--Commit to increase the efficiency of and reduce distortions in the
foreign exchange market under the floating exchange rate
regime.
2. Improve the business climate and meet WTO obligations:
--Maintain tariffs on apparel consistent with Egypt's WTO
obligations.
3. Improve transparency and budget deficit:
--Commit to publishing a budget.
--Request and establish a timeline with the World Bank for a Public
Expenditures Review.
--Agree to IMF public release of executive summary of the annual
Article IV Consultations report through the Public Information
Notice (PIN) of the IMF.
--Agree to publish Reports on Standards and Codes by 12/31/04.
--Commit to beginning public release of macroeconomic data, including
but not limited to quarterly GDP estimates (with six month lag)
and monthly industrial production indices.
The fiscal year 2005 budget request includes an Economic Support
Fund (ESF) request of $535 million. We are focusing our resources on
the Middle East Partnership Initiative pillars of economic reform,
education, civil society, and women and are determined that our
assistance activities reach more Egyptians at the grassroots level.
We have redesigned our cash transfer program, under which ESF
disbursements are conditioned on economic reform, to focus on the
financial sector, including bank privatization. In education, we are
promoting the decentralization of Egypt's education system and
integrating proven models of teacher training, local school management,
and community and private sector support/involvement. Girls' education,
particularly in rural areas, as well as English language training
programs, will be a key focus of our activities. We are also planning
to devote significant resources for democracy and governance programs
that open the public space for debate, support civil society
institutions, and promote the respect for rule of law.
Question. How do you explain Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's
seeming reluctance to implement much needed political and economic
reforms in Egypt?
Answer. Reform has been a focal point in our bilateral relations
with Egypt for several years. We have been cautiously encouraged by
several steps the Government has taken including:
--Floating the Egyptian pound,
--Replacing WTO-inconsistent apparel tariffs,
--Creating a National Council on Human Rights,
--Repealing several military decrees,
--Sponsoring a regional conference in Alexandria that issued a bold
declaration favoring reform, and
--Public statements by Egyptian officials suggesting the possibility
of lifting the Emergency Law.
In addition, President Mubarak has expressed his commitment to
reform, highlighting the need to modernize, develop, and reform society
in a 14 April speech to the Baker Institute for Public Policy in Texas.
We remain concerned, however, over restrictions on basic political
liberties and religious rights, treatment of prisoners including
routine use of torture, and continued reliance upon the Emergency Law.
The Emergency Law allows the state to arrest and detain suspects
without trial for prolonged periods and refer civilians to military
courts. We continue to stress the need for reform to our Egyptian
counterparts and emphasize that true stability will only result from a
free and open society where citizens' rights are respected.
Question. Has the Egyptian Government actively undermined the
President's Greater Middle East Partnership Initiative (GME), and what
role did it have in, if any, in scuttling the Arab Summit in Tunisia
last month?
Answer. Like other countries in the region, Egypt has stressed that
reform cannot be imposed from the outside, but must come from internal
dialogue and debate--a principal we strongly support. Egypt has worked
to this end, sponsoring a regional conference in Alexandria that issued
a bold declaration favoring reform, and engaging in a national dialogue
with some of the major opposition parties. The Egyptian Government
acknowledges the need for reform in Egypt and the Middle East and has
played an important and constructive role in ensuring that the Arab
League takes up the issue of political and economic reform.
When the Government of Tunisia cancelled the Arab Summit meeting on
28 March, Cairo immediately offered to host the Summit if Tunisia was
unwilling. From 8-10 May, Egypt hosted the Arab League foreign
ministerial that agreed on a rescheduled date of 22-23 May for the
Summit. Egypt has and continues to play a constructive role on Arab
League issues.
Question. Will the Administration be able to renegotiate foreign
assistance agreements with Egypt to ensure that they do not have veto
power over the use of taxpayer funds?
Answer. The Government of Egypt (GOE) and the USG jointly agree
every year on the use of aid dollars. Our assistance program is
codified in our bilateral Treaty agreement with the GOE; something that
we do not believe should be changed at this time. Such joint decision-
making has been the principle and practice of this assistance since the
beginning of our program with Egypt more than twenty years ago. This
program, rooted in the Camp David Accords, has achieved many benefits
for the United States and Egypt and is one whose programs are
continually evolving.
Our most recent discussions with the GOE, held in November 2003 on
the topic of a new Democracy and Governance assistance funding, were
frank and are ongoing. In 1998, we negotiated funding changes to the
assistance program. These discussions were always held in a productive
atmosphere with GOE officials. If changes are to be made to the
program, we are confident that we will have an engaged partner.
However, a full renegotiation of the agreement would require changes to
the Accords--a difficult and costly exercise to implement.
The GOE does not hold a veto over U.S. Government assistance to
Egypt. This is evidenced by the fact that we have just completed a
review of the assistance program that intends to advance new program
initiatives in the areas of economic reform, democracy and governance,
health, education, and the environment, among other areas. Changes to
the formulation of our assistance program for Egypt do not inhibit us
from making these initiatives, and despite some GOE resistance to some
of our proposals we have been and will continue to discuss these
proposals in detail with the GOE.
Question. Do you agree that the failure of the Egyptian Government
to provide basic freedoms--including that of association--strengthens
the ability of extremists to recruit from disaffected segments of
society that have no role or voice in domestic politics?
Answer. Islamic terrorist movements suppressed by the Egyptian
Government in the 1980s and 1990's were not seeking an agenda of
greater political inclusiveness. While the core of extremist movements
consists of people who are committed to a radical ideology, disaffected
segments of society are vulnerable to manipulation. The Egyptian
Government has called for greater political and economic participation
to counter extremists' influence, and the National Democratic Party has
led a campaign to encourage youth to become involved in government. We
are working with both the Government and NGOs to design programs to
strengthen civil society and the rule of law in Egypt, a result of
which may be greater public confidence in the political system, and
accordingly, reduced appeal of extremist groups.
Question. Are we making any progress at all with the Egyptians in
reducing the unending vilification of America, Israel and Jews in their
official and semi-official media?
Answer. Since the onset of the second Intifada in September 2000,
there has been an increase in anti-Semitic material published in the
Egyptian media. We have raised regularly our concerns over anti-Semitic
material in the official GOE media with Egyptian officials, and
welcomed Presidential Adviser Osama Al-Baz's repudiation of anti-
Semitism as a vehicle for protesting policy differences with Israel.
Our Ambassador in Egypt, David Welch, has taken an active role in
protesting biased media coverage, calling on the press to present well-
researched and factually accurate arguments, not those perpetuating
anti-Semitic slurs, rumors or unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
Question. How do you account for Qaddafi's recent willingness to
cooperate with the West on a range of issues--including weapons of mass
destruction?
Answer. No one factor or any isolated event suffices to explain
Libya's recent judgments. The record of negotiations reflects a new
seriousness and intensity among Libyan negotiators following September
11 and in the build-up to Operation Iraqi Freedom. The interdiction of
the ship ``BBC China'' through President Bush's Proliferation Security
Initiative may also have been a factor in Libya's decision. But the
Libyan government has recognized the economic and security advantages
of improving relations with the United States and others and had been
edging slowly away from its destructive and futile past polices for
some time.
Question. What role did Qadhafi's son Saif Al-Islam have in
shifting Libya's direction, and what role does he have in the future of
Libya? What are his reform credentials?
Answer. It's not clear how much of a role Saif Al-Islam plays in
the direction of Libyan policy. Officially, Saif Al-Islam holds no
position within the government. In practice, his familial association
translates into some degree of influence. Saif Al-Islam heads the Human
Rights Society of the Qadhafi International Foundation for Charity (The
Qadhafi Foundation). In this capacity, Saif Al-Islam was involved in
the discussions between the Foundation and the French victims'
association that led to a compensation settlement with French parties
in the UTA bombing. Saif Al-Islam facilitated the visits of several
United States Congressmen to Tripoli earlier this year. He has not
participated in the U.S./UK discussions on WMD with Libyan officials,
nor our bilateral dialogue on political and economic relations.
There is no established rule of succession in Libya. We cannot
judge whether Saif Al-Islam has a future political role in Libya.
Question. Will the United States provide assistance to Libya for
the destruction of its chemical weapons stockpile?
Answer. Libya has not made a direct request to the United States
for assistance in the destruction of its CW stockpile, although at the
March 23-26, 2004 meeting of the Executive Council to the Organization
for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the Libyan Representative
stated that Libya hopes to receive technical and financial assistance
from the international community. The United States Government has not
ruled out such assistance. We are encouraging United States companies
who have expressed an interest and have expertise in destruction of CW
to initiate contact with the Libyan Government.
Question. Does Libya provide an example of the value of sanctions
in addressing a hardline regime?
Answer. Economic sanctions against Libya--which included a U.N.
sanctions regime, adopted by the Security Council, as well as sanctions
imposed under U.S. laws--were sustained for a number of years. Over
time, in addition to their economic impact, they contributed to
creating a sense of international isolation for Libya. A desire to end
that isolation and rejoin the world community was one element in
bringing about the dramatic changes of policy that we have seen in
Libya.
Question. How much have events in Iraq precipitated change in Libya
and throughout the region?
Answer. There can be no doubt that United States resolve to see
international law and more than a dozen U.N. Security Council
resolutions upheld in Iraq have had a profound impact on the region,
including on the dramatic decision by Libya's Moammar Qadhafi to give
up his weapons of mass destruction.
In Libya's case, other factors also played a role, including the
sanctions regime, years of tough diplomacy, and United States and UK
intelligence efforts to uncover the details of Libya's WMD efforts. It
is also important to note that the courage and tenacity displayed by
the families of the Pan Am 103 victims helped to persuade Libya to
fulfill the requirements related to Pan Am 103, including transfer of
the two suspects and renunciation of terrorism.
Question. How alarmed should we be with Iran's construction and
assembly of centrifuges used to enrich uranium at Isfahan, and at
Iran's attempts to frustrate the work of the International Atomic
Energy Agency?
Answer. We are very concerned about Iran's nuclear program,
including its construction and assembly of centrifuges for its uranium
enrichment program, because we believe Iran's nuclear program is
directed towards developing nuclear weapons. In his four reports on
Iran over the past year, the IAEA Director General has documented
eighteen years of clandestine nuclear activities, conducted in
violation of its NPT safeguards obligations, including undeclared
uranium enrichment and plutonium separation experiments, as well as
experiments with such weapons-related materials as uranium metal and
polonium-210. Dr. ElBaradei also documented Iran's efforts during that
period of time to systematically and willfully hide its clandestine
efforts from the world.
Iran claims it needs to develop indigenous uranium enrichment
capability for its nuclear power program. However, Iran already has a
guaranteed external fuel supply for the one power reactor currently
under construction at Bushehr. More importantly, Iran has no need for
nuclear power to meet its indigenous power requirements. Indeed, Iran
has some of the largest petroleum and gas reserves in the world.
Moreover, Iran does not have sufficient known uranium reserves to
support a civilian nuclear power program. It has more than enough
uranium, however, for a nuclear weapons program. Iran's troubling,
confirmed history of serious safeguards violations, and of long-term
deception and denial regarding those efforts are clear indicators of an
intent to develop a nuclear weapons capability under the cover of a
peaceful nuclear energy program. We urge Iran to abandon its pursuit of
sensitive nuclear fuel cycle capabilities and of nuclear weapons
capabilities. We are undertaking intensive diplomatic efforts aimed at
achieving those goals.
Question. How close to completion is their [Iran's] enrichment
facility?
Answer. As a result of the intense international spotlight on, and
rigorous IAEA investigation of, its nuclear activities, Iran has
declared the existence of a number--but likely not all--of its
facilities involved in its uranium conversion and enrichment programs.
However, Iran's drive to develop the entire nuclear fuel cycle is
complex and is not centered in a single facility. Furthermore, there
are lingering suspicions Iran has not declared the full extent of its
nuclear program. Iran has announced its intention to begin operations
at its Esfahan uranium conversion facility. We believe testing this
facility is not consistent with Iran's repeated pledges to suspend
enrichment-related and reprocessing activities. The production of
uranium compounds used to produce feedstock for enrichment would be an
unacceptable step towards actual enriched uranium operations.
Further along the fuel cycle, Iran has pledged to the IAEA to stop
assembling centrifuges at the pilot fuel enrichment plant at Natanz,
though construction of that facility and at the larger Fuel Enrichment
Plant (which is being buried underground at the same site), appears to
be proceeding rapidly. The IAEA continues to investigate the source of
uranium contamination found on centrifuges at Natanz and elsewhere. The
DG's February 2004 report to the IAEA Board revealed that Iran had not
declared to the IAEA its possession of more advanced ``P-2'' gas
centrifuge designs. The DG's February report also noted advances in
Iran's capability to manufacture domestically a range of centrifuge
components, including at a number of workshops controlled by the
Iranian military, a troubling revelation. Until the IAEA concludes its
investigation of Iran's centrifuge enrichment program, an investigation
that we anticipate will need to continue for the foreseeable future, it
is difficult to assess more precisely its current state of development.
Iran has also experimented with laser enrichment techniques that
have not been found to be commercially viable in other countries. A
proliferator is not interested in making enrichment profitable;
therefore, such techniques could be attractive for use in a covert
weapons program. The IAEA's investigation of Iran's laser enrichment
program is ongoing.
In short, we do not know precisely how close Iran is to having an
indigenous capability to enrich uranium, largely due to Iran's refusal
to cooperate fully with the IAEA and because of lingering suspicions
Iran has not declared the full extent of its nuclear program. However,
we are working closely with other members of the IAEA Board of
Governors to ensure that the IAEA and the IAEA's Board continue to
exert the fullest possible pressure on Iran to cooperate fully.
Question. The EU said it will not go forward with a new Trade and
Cooperation Agreement with Iran until its nuclear program has been
determined to be peaceful--how seriously does the EU take the threat of
a nuclear-armed Iran?
Answer. The EU shares our concerns about the threat of Iran
acquiring nuclear weapons capability. The EU has consistently called on
Iran to cooperate fully with the IAEA and comply fully with its
nonproliferation obligations. EU member states serving on the IAEA
Board of Governors have supported three resolutions adopted unanimously
calling on Iran to cooperate with the IAEA and declare all its nuclear
activities in order to allow the IAEA to verify whether Iran's nuclear
program is exclusively peaceful in nature. But EU states have not
supported reporting Iran's documented noncompliance with its NPT
safeguards agreement to the U.N. Security Council.
The Foreign Ministers of France, Germany and the U.K. (the EU-3)
reached agreement with Iran during their October 21, 2003 visit to
Tehran that Iran would suspend ``all enrichment-related and
reprocessing activities as defined by the IAEA'' and would sign the
Additional Protocol and commence ratification procedures. In exchange,
the EU-3 agreed to take a number of future steps, including providing
Iran easier access to technology. Iran signed the AP December 18, 2003,
but has taken no significant steps toward ratification. Despite a
follow-up agreement with the EU-3 on February 23 aimed at reaffirming
its pledge, Iran has continued to flout its pledge to suspend
enrichment-related and reprocessing activities, most recently
announcing the imminent startup of its uranium conversion facility. The
EU-3 continues to press Iran to meet its promises.
We continue to work closely with the EU to reach our common goal of
preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability.
Question. What impact has the opening of Iraqi society--including
greater freedom for women--had in Iran, and are there any indications
that Iranian youth have increased calls for change?
Answer. The status of Iranian women is complicated; they enjoy some
freedoms--such as the right to vote and to run for public office--not
permitted in neighboring states, and they are permitted to work and
occupy many positions of responsibility in society, including in the
President's cabinet. However, they are also subject to draconian edicts
from Iran's theocracy that severely limit other freedoms.
There has been no clear public reaction by younger Iranians to
developments in Iraq. However, Iranian Kurds took to the streets in
demonstrations following promulgation of the Transitional
Administrative Law in Baghdad. Iranian Kurds seek greater freedom to
use their language and express their cultural identity. They have
observed developments in Iraq with great interest.
With the support of the special Congressional approval provided in
the 2004 Foreign Operations Bill, we maintain a very active public
diplomacy program to expose Iran's behavior through public statements
by USG officials, Radio Farda and VOA broadcasts, and the State Dept's
Persian website. In addition, we are actively exploring opportunities
to promote democracy activities within Iran, in accordance with fiscal
year 2004 congressional authorization.
We continue to support the Iranian people in their quest for
freedom, democracy, and a more responsible, transparent, and
accountable government that will take its rightful place as a respected
member of the international community.
Question. What has Iran's response been to the provision of U.S.
humanitarian relief following last year's earthquake in Bam, Iran?
Answer. This question has been sent to USAID for response.
The committee notes that no response was received.
Question. Has the administration made a determination on sanctions
against Syria, as required by the Syrian Accountability Act (Public Law
108-175)?
Answer. The President of the United States signed the bipartisan
SAA (the Act) on December 12, 2003. Our goal is to implement the Act to
demonstrate United States resolve to address the Syrian government's
support for terrorist groups, its continued military presence in
Lebanon, its pursuit of weapons of mass destruction, and its actions to
undermine United States and international efforts with respect to the
stabilization and reconstruction of Iraq. We are still conferring
within the State Department as well as with other agencies on the
possibilities, as laid out in the Act, to best achieve that goal.
Question. Has Syria made any progress in ceasing support for
terrorist groups, developments of weapons of mass destruction, and
facilitating terrorist activities in Iraq?
Answer. Though Syrian officials have publicly condemned
international terrorism and Damascus has cooperated with the United
States and other foreign governments against al-Qaida, the Taliban, and
other terrorist organizations and individuals, the Syrian Government
continues to provide support and safe haven to many terrorist groups.
HAMAS, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), the Popular Front for the
Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), and the PFLP--General Command (PFLP-GC)
maintain a Syrian Government-sanctioned presence in Syria. Several of
these groups claimed responsibility for anti-Israeli terrorist acts in
2003. Hizballah continues to operate freely in Syrian-controlled areas
of Lebanon and the Syrian Government has taken no steps to end Iranian
re-supply of Hizballah in Lebanon using Syria as a trans-shipment
point.
Syria continues to develop its WMD capabilities. With one of the
most advanced Arab-state chemical weapons capabilities, it is highly
probable that Syria is also developing an offensive biological weapons
capability. Syria maintains an inventory of Scud and SS-21 short-range
ballistic missiles and devotes significant resources to its ballistic
missile program; it is believed to have chemical warheads available for
a portion of its Scud missile force. Syria has not volunteered to have
its suspected weapons sites inspected by the international community.
We remain concerned about Syria's nuclear research and development
program and continue to watch for any signs of nuclear weapons
activity. Syria has not yet signed the International Atomic Energy
Agency's Additional Protocol.
Since the end of major combat operations in Iraq, Syria has made
some efforts to tighten its borders with Iraq to limit the movement of
anti-Coalition foreign fighters into Iraq. Nevertheless, Syria remains
a preferred transit point for foreign fighters entering Iraq. The
existence of these smuggling networks reflects, at a minimum, some
Syrian border guard complacency or complicity with foreign fighters
despite government assurances of counterterrorism assistance in Iraq.
Question. How many Syrian troops remain in Lebanon following its
invasion in 1976, and does Syria's support for Hizballah continue to be
robust?
Answer. Approximately 15,000-20,000 Syrian troops remain in
Lebanon. Syria also maintains a robust intelligence network within
Lebanon. In addition, Syria maintains ties with Hizballah, including
serving as a transshipment point for resupplying Hizballah in Lebanon.
Question. How can Syria justify its continued occupation of Lebanon
after the Israeli withdrawal in 2000?
Answer. The Syrian and Lebanese Governments argue that Syria's
continued military and security presence in Lebanon is at the request
of the Lebanese government. However, the United States continues to
insist that the Syrians withdraw from Lebanon consistent with the
spirit of the 1989 Taif Accords, which call for the extension of
Lebanese government control over the entire territory of Lebanon. The
Lebanese Army should deploy throughout the country in conjunction with
the negotiated withdrawal of Syrian military and intelligence
personnel.
Question. Do you support the Subcommittee including authority in
the fiscal year 2005 bill to conduct democracy programs in Syria?
Answer. We support the inclusion of any authorities and allocations
that would allow us to work with civil society groups and conduct
democracy programs in Syria.
Question. To what extent is Syria aiding and abetting terrorism in
Iraq?
Answer. Syria's President Asad publicly indicated his willingness
to take part in stabilization and rebuilding efforts in Iraq. However,
Syria has taken no steps to transfer frozen Iraqi assets in Syrian
banks to the Development Fund for Iraq as required pursuant to United
Nations Security Council resolution 1483.
Since the end of major combat operations in Iraq, Syria has made
some efforts to tighten its borders with Iraq to limit the movement of
anti-Coalition foreign fighters into Iraq. Nevertheless, Syria remains
a preferred transit point for foreign fighters entering Iraq. The
existence of these smuggling networks reflects, at a minimum, some
Syrian border guard complacency or complicity with foreign fighters
despite government assurances of counterterrorism assistance in Iraq.
Question. The Administration has proposed increasing the personnel
caps for Colombia from 400 U.S. civilian contractors and 400 U.S.
military personnel to 600 and 800 respectively.
Does the fiscal year 2005 budget request for Colombia include
sufficient funding to expand the caps--particularly for civilian
contractors?
Answer. We have carefully reviewed the fiscal year 2004
appropriations and the proposed fiscal year 2005 budget request and, as
a general response, believe that both include sufficient funding to
expand the personnel caps for U.S. military personnel and U.S. citizen
civilian contractors in support of Plan Colombia.
Enclosed for your information are detailed charts which show our
intended increases, if the ceilings were raised, and how they will be
funded. They also provide a breakdown of the numbers of contractors;
the contractor's parent company; which agency employs the contractors
and the services the contractor would provide.
The Administration is seeking an increase in the caps for several
reasons, as described in more detail by Assistant Secretary Paul V.
Kelly in his letter of March 16. To review briefly, a cap increase is
needed because some of the programs authorized by Congress are only now
coming fully on line and there are also additional programs developed
since the ceilings were established, such as the anti-kidnapping
initiative and the Air Bridge Denial program. Most importantly,
however, we believe that an increase in the military and civilian
contractor support provided to the Government of Colombia during the
next two years is essential to sustain the current progress being made
by our programs in Colombia.
While we are seeking an increase in the civilian cap of 200, it is
estimated that the immediate need is for only an additional 93
contractors.
In addition, we would emphasize three important points:
--No U.S. military personnel or U.S. citizen civilian contractors
would be assigned to Colombia in the absence of necessary
funding being available for that purpose.
--The requested increase for civilian personnel ceilings does not
indicate that we intend to have 600 contractors in Colombia
full-time. In 2003, the number of U.S. citizen civilian
contractors varied from 246 to 400. During the period from
January 1, 2004 through April 8, 2004, the overall number of
U.S. citizen civilian contractors in support of Plan Colombia
was between 279 and 396. There are variations due to personnel
rotations and because individual programs and projects are
initiated, expanded or reduced, and completed.
--An increase in the cap will help alleviate difficulties and
management inefficiencies that arise when several agencies are
trying to bring additional personnel into Colombia at the same
time and one group has to wait at the Miami airport until a
sufficient number of others have departed. In some cases, the
ceilings have constrained us from the full implementation of
already funded programs.
colombia cap increase
Total Additional U.S. Citizen Civilian Contractor Positions: 93
Note: These charts illustrate expected increases by office or
agency in U.S. citizen civilian contractors in support of Plan
Colombia, contingent upon Congressional approval to increase the
personnel ceiling. Actual dates will be dependent upon such approval,
program developments and personnel availability.
Department of Justice (DOJ): Total Requested Increase--6
DOJ is currently funding its present contractors and Coast Guard
investigators through existing programs, but had reduced program
implementation to meet the cap restrictions. If the increase is
approved, DOJ plans to raise the number of contractors from six to
twelve within one month, with presently available funds. These
additional contractors are identified under in the chart below, but
their actual presence in Colombia will be TDY on an as-needed basis.
DOJ JUSTICE SECTOR REFORM PROGRAM (OPDAT, ICITAP, USMS) CHART
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Month 1
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UNYSIS:
Programmer............................................. 1
Prog Mgr............................................... 1
IBM:
Programmer............................................. 1
Prog Mgr............................................... 1
U.S. Coast Guard: Criminal Investigators................... 2
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Total................................................ 6
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U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID): Total Requested
Increase: 12
The increase of 12 contractors has already been included in USAID
plans and budget projections, through available fiscal year 2003 and
programmed fiscal year 2004 funding. Because of the contractor
personnel ceilings, USAID has not been able to fully implement planned
programs. The increase, if approved, should allow full implementation
of all USAID programs. Four contractors would be assigned permanently
to Colombia while eight would be short-term.
USAID CHART
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Month
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1 2 3 4
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ARD/CAPP (Agri-business
Development):
Chief of Party.................. 1 1 1 1
Contracts/Grants................ ....... 1 1 1
Subject Area Expert............. ....... 1 1 1
Chemonics CAD (Alternative ....... 1 1 1
Agricultural Development): Subject
Area Expert........................
Chemonics (Commercial Forestry): ....... 1 1 1
Subject Area Expert................
Trade and Investment: Economists.... ....... 3 3 3
Program Design Team: Program ....... 4 4 .......
Development Officers...............
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Total......................... 1 12 12 8
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MILITARY GROUP (Milgroup): Total Requested Increase: 40
The increase for DOD civilian contractors assigned to the Milgroup
of the U.S. Embassy is to meet additional needs in the area of
logistics, communications, intelligence aircrews, helicopter
specialists, construction specialists, radar operators, and military
operations specialists. The breakdown of increased contractors would be
23 permanent and long-term additions and 17 recurring TDY personnel.
Funding is expected from reprogrammed fiscal year 2004 funds and
requested additional funding for fiscal year 2005. DOD will employ all
companies listed. The chart below depicts four months of additional
civilian contractors in the Milgroup. The number of permanent and long-
term TDY contractors in any given month will be 23 additional personnel
(depicted in both sample months). In any given month there could be an
additional seventeen short term TDY contractors (depicted in the
alternate sample month). At any given time the maximum increase will be
40 additional contractors, and the minimum increase will be 23
additional contractors.
MILGROUP CHART
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Month
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1 2
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Lockheed Martin (Parent Company):
Property mgmt specialist...................... 1 1
Fuel mgr...................................... 1 1
Airlift coordinator........................... 1 1
Supply specialist............................. 1 1
Marine logistics specialist................... 1 1
MANTECH (Parent Company):
Automation techs.............................. 3 3
Network techs................................. 3 3
Northrop Gruman (Parent Company for CSS aircraft):
Pilots........................................ 2 2
Mechanics..................................... 2 2
Tech operator crewmembers..................... 2 2
LSI/Dragoon Technologies (Parent Companies for
MARS III aircraft):
Pilots........................................ 2 2
Mechanics..................................... 2 2
Tech operator crewmembers..................... 2 2
BDI/Ken Hornsby/Don Carlos (Parent Design
Companies contracted by Corps of Engineers):
Architects.................................... 2 .........
Electrician................................... 1 .........
ITT (Parent Company):
Radar operators............................... 3 .........
Radar mechanics............................... 2 .........
Lockheed Martin (Parent Company):
Helo mechanics................................ 3 .........
Quality/product control specialists........... 2 .........
Booze Allen (Parent Company): Military operations 2 .........
specialists......................................
Syntex (Parent Company): Comms specialists........ 2 .........
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Total....................................... 40 23
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Narcotics Affairs Section (NAS): Total Requested over the Cap: 35
Funding for all contractor positions under the Embassy NAS were
included in the contract cost budget estimates for each program when
developing annual budget submissions. For the DynCorp contract, funding
for the increased positions has already been obligated into the
contract. For the ARINC contract, funds will be added in July during
the next contract extension and when fiscal year 2004 funds are
available. Dyncorp positions are rotational, so although the overall
numbers of required contractors will increase, not all will be in the
country at the same time.
NAS CHART
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Month
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1 2 3 4 5 6
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DynCorp:
Intel................................................. 2 ....... ....... ....... ....... .......
Sec/Med............................................... 1 ....... ....... ....... ....... .......
Safety................................................ 2 ....... ....... ....... ....... .......
Helo.................................................. ....... 1 1 ....... ....... 1
GIS................................................... ....... 1 ....... ....... ....... .......
QC Inspector.......................................... ....... 1 ....... ....... ....... .......
OV-10 Pilot........................................... ....... ....... 2 ....... 2 .......
Ops Coord............................................. ....... ....... 1 ....... ....... .......
ISS Ops Co............................................ ....... ....... 1 ....... ....... .......
OV-10 Mech............................................ ....... ....... ....... 1 ....... .......
C-27 Mech............................................. ....... ....... ....... 1 ....... .......
Metal Adv............................................. ....... ....... ....... 1 ....... 2
ALSE.................................................. ....... ....... ....... ....... 2 .......
ISS Sec............................................... ....... ....... ....... ....... 1 .......
ISS Planner........................................... ....... ....... ....... ....... ....... 1
ARINC:
ASM................................................... 2 1 1 ....... ....... 2
GSM................................................... 2 ....... ....... ....... ....... .......
Maint................................................. ....... 1 1 ....... ....... .......
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Total............................................... 9 5 7 3 5 6
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See position descriptions below:
DynCorp--Eradication, COLAR Aviation, ISS Contractor
Security/Medical Coordinator (1)
Position requires extensive security and medical experience as well
as management experience in the field to complement the coordination
duties. While we have been able to find some third-country nationals
(TCN) who qualified for Search and Rescue (SAR)/Medical Technician
roles, none have had management experience to qualify for coordinator.
Intelligence/Mission Planners (2)
Security clearance requirements preclude non-U.S. citizens from
these positions. The positions coordinate intelligence information from
various sources in Colombia and use the information to assist in
mission planning.
OV-10D Pilots (4)
Through experience, the vast majority of pilots that can qualify in
the immediate future for the OV-10 are U.S. citizens. We have been able
to recruit only a very limited number of TCN and local national (LN)
personnel because of the experience and skill levels required
accomplish the mission.
Rotary Wing Pilots (3)
As with the OV-10D, for the immediate future, the required
education and experience levels have historically lead to the vast
majority of the pilots being U.S. citizens.
Assistant GIS Coordinator (1)
This position coordinates Geographic Information System data, which
requires a security clearance, precluding TCN or LN candidates.
OV-10D Mechanics (1)
These mechanics are responsible for all maintenance of the OV-10
aircraft in Colombia, which requires stringent training, experience,
and licensing requirements. The aircraft are old and we have some
difficulty finding personnel with direct experience on the aircraft.
Few non-U.S. citizens possess the skills and experience that would
allow the re-training, although we are training Colombian nationals.
Lead C-27 Mechanic (1)
This position is assigned to Bogota and coordinates all maintenance
on the C-27 fleet in Colombia. The training, experience, and licensing
requirements preclude a non-U.S. citizen from this position.
Sheet Metal Technical Advisors (3)
These positions require highly technical skills with a variety of
specialized equipment. Our experience has shown that a sufficient pool
of personnel with the skill levels required is not available to fill
these positions with non-U.S. citizens.
Safety Specialist (2)
These positions are responsible for planning, training, and
monitoring program safety programs, which requires an extensive amount
of training and experience. Our experience is that the only personnel
that have the required levels are ex-U.S. military personnel.
Operations Coordinators (1)
These individuals coordinate with various agencies and groups at
Forward Operating Locations (FOLs) to plan and execute missions.
Experience has shown that the management and experience necessary to
accomplish this mission comes from a military background. Additionally,
the vast majority of qualified candidates have been U.S. citizens.
However, extensive recruiting has led to the hiring of some of the
positions to be filled with local nationals.
Aircrew Life Support Equipment (ALSE) Technician (2)
This position maintains equipment such as vests, night vision
goggles and other systems associated with aircrew flight operation. The
position requires highly technical skills with a variety of specialized
equipment. Our experience has shown that it is difficult to find the
skill levels required to fill these positions with non-U.S. citizens.
However, we have been able to recruit some local nationals with the
appropriate training and experience to fill some of the positions.
Quality Control Inspector (1)
This position monitors maintenance carried out on the aircraft.
Quality Control personnel generally begin as mechanics and through many
years of experience and training, progress into the Quality Control
specialty. This type of aviation program is still a relatively new
endeavor in Colombia, and the experience levels of maintenance
personnel are still growing. While there has been some success in
elevating Colombian nationals to Quality Control positions, it is more
usual that any given position would have to be filled with a U.S.
citizen.
ISS Operations Coordinator (1)
This individual will coordinate with various agencies and groups at
the Saravena FOL to plan and execute missions for the Infrastructure
Security Program. Experience has shown that the management and
experience necessary to accomplish this mission comes from a military
background. Additionally, the vast majority of qualified candidates
have been U.S. citizens.
ISS Security/Medical Coordinator (1)
Position requires extensive security and medical experience as well
as management experience in the field to complement the coordination
duties. While we have been able to find some third-country nationals
(TCN) who qualified for Search and Rescue (SAR)/Medical Technician
roles, none have had management experience to qualify for coordinator.
ISS Tactical Mission Planner (1)
This position will work in conjunction with the ISS Operations
Coordinator to ensure that missions are planned with security and
safety in mind and with clear objective. Experience has shown that the
tactical, security, and safety requirements for the position limit the
pool of non-U.S. citizens that can perform this job.
ARINC--Air Bridge Denial Contractor
Air Safety Monitors (6)
Air Safety Monitor (ASM) positions must be U.S. citizens. These are
the individuals who fly in the aircraft or work at the FAC command
center as the USG representative and require a U.S. security clearance.
Once all seven aircraft are in service, there will be 11 ASMs. This is
based on the current trends of flying one or two day-sorties and one
night-sortie. If the operational tempo rises above that, we will have
to increase the number to two ASM (14 total) per aircraft.
Ground Safety Monitors (2)
We have a requirement for one Ground Safety Monitor (GSM) and an
operations officer. Starting July, due to the increased number of
aircraft we will need two GSMs around the clock, which will require
five persons in addition to the operations officer.
U.S. Maintenance Personnel (2)
We have only two maintenance personnel who are U.S. citizens. They
are the only contract maintenance personnel that can fly the aircraft
and have to be available 24 hours a day. We add one C-26 at the end of
June, a Citation sometime August-September, another C-26 in September,
and the last Citation sometime December. The number of U.S. citizen
civilian contractors will increase to four as we get more aircraft.
Question. To what extent was the Aristide Government involved in
narcotics trafficking?
Answer. The Department of Justice/DEA is conducting an
investigation of drug trafficking in Haiti and all questions relating
to criminal allegations against the Aristide Government should be
directed to them.
Question. Did Aristide personally profit from the drug trade, as
alleged by a former Aristide confidant in a BBC news story?
Answer. Any criminal allegations against former President Aristide
are solely within the purview of the Department of Justice/DEA and
questions should be directed to them.
Question. Are any United States or Haitian investigations of former
President Aristide ongoing that includes complicity in narcotics
trafficking? Will Haitian authorities investigate the former President
for any alleged drug trafficking activities?
Answer. The Department of Justice/DEA is conducting an
investigation of drug trafficking in Haiti. Questions relating to
allegations against former President Aristide should be directed to
them.
Question. Did Aristide's efforts at placing his loyalists in key
positions--and his curtailing of the ability of the police to
function--facilitate the trafficking of narcotics into the region and
the United States.?
Answer. The placement of Aristide loyalists in key positions in the
Haitian National Police--many of whom were unqualified--relegated U.S.-
trained officers to secondary positions and further undermined the
effectiveness of an organization already weakened by a chronic lack of
resources. As to whether or not the Aristide loyalists were themselves
involved in drug trafficking, the question should be directed to the
Department of Justice/DEA which is conducting an investigation into
drug trafficking in Haiti. Certainly, there were no efforts to curb
drug-related corruption nor prosecutions or convictions of government
and HNP officials involved in drug trafficking during Aristide's tenure
in office.
Question. The March 2004 INCSR states: ``On October 5, 2003, a
twin-engine Aztec aircraft landed near Cap-Haitien and offloaded 500
kilograms of cocaine. The Secretary of Public Security refused to take
action to apprehend three traffickers lodged at the Continental Hotel
until DEA pressure forced their arrest. Witnesses have often observed
light aircraft landing with drug cargoes on route 9 in Port-au-Prince.
Typically, HNP officers will block traffic and help with off-loading
and ground transport.''
Were concerns with this incident ever brought to the direct
attention of President Aristide? What actions if any, did he personally
take to prevent drug trafficking activities within the HNP? To the best
of your knowledge, was there ever a reorganization of the HNP by
President Aristide to address corruption and/or drug trafficking within
the HNP?
Answer. The Embassy repeatedly expressed its concern about drug-
related corruption to President Aristide and other officials of his
Administration. With the exception of the expulsion of Jacques Ketant
and three other drug traffickers, President Aristide took no
significant actions to prevent drug trafficking activities nor did he
undertake a reorganization of the HNP to address corruption and/or drug
trafficking within the HNP. On the contrary, the appointment of his
loyalists to key leadership positions in the HNP exacerbated the
problem of corruption and hindered the ability of the organization to
effectively undertake counterdrug efforts.
Question. What additional assistance requirements do you anticipate
for Haiti, and how will these needs be addressed?
Answer. We plan to provide additional assistance through USAID in
the amount of $65.481 million ($4.0 million in Development Assistance
and $61.481 million in Economic Support Funds). We will send a
Congressional notification soon on the planned use of the additional
funds.
The additional ESF would provide immediate budget support to the
interim Haitian government for operational expenses, emergency
rehabilitation needs, and current debt service payments; protection for
the interim president; funding to stand up and train an anti-corruption
unit to effectively monitor all ministries of the Haitian government;
technical assistance to the Finance Ministry to help with government
revenue management; short-term and long-term technical assistance,
equipment and training to strengthen the Haitian customs service and
port operations; and other assistance to the Ministries of Justice,
Agriculture, and Public Works. ESF will also support the repair of
facilities and purchase electricity for vital government services and
areas receiving less than two hours of electricity a day; support
election planning and oversight; and training of judges and
prosecutors.
The additional Development Assistance (DA) funding will initiate
short-term job creation programs to build infrastructure that will, in
turn, spur growth. One immediate action will be to provide jobs and
training to marginalized urban youth and former gang members to clean
up the urban environment. Activities will also be developed to
rehabilitate schools and improve basic infrastructure such as
irrigation, canals, roads, bridges, and wells. Other short-term
employment will be in critical areas of public services such as garbage
collection, water and sanitation, and road repair.
This $4.0 million of DA and $61.481 million of ESF is additional to
(1) USAID's original programmed fiscal year 2004 level of $52.4 million
and (2) the additional funds that had been previously notified to
Congress, including $3.3 million in Child Survival and Health Funds,
$3.5 million in Transition Initiatives funding, $3.5 million in
Disaster Assistance, and $1.0 million ESF for civilian police
development and election support.
In addition to the originally programmed $24.7 million of Public
Law 480 food assistance for fiscal year 2004, an additional $7.0
million of food assistance will be used for humanitarian assistance.
The total U.S. Government assistance package for Haiti for fiscal
year 2004, including funding from all accounts, will be $160.0 million.
Question. Given Romania's recent entry into NATO and support in
Afghanistan and Iraq, what action is the Administration considering to
strengthen United States-Romanian bilateral relations?
Answer. Long at Europe's periphery, Romania now is at the heart of
Europe's transition and America's policy goals in Eurasia. Bilateral
relations are stronger than ever before. Our political dialogue is
high-level and frequent; United States and Romanian soldiers are
fighting side by side in Iraq and Afghanistan; we are working together
to promote stability and security in the Caucasus and Black Sea; and
Romania's accession to NATO and a rotating seat on the U.N. Security
Council this year offer new avenues for expanded partnership. The
United States must continue to place a high priority on building on our
recent successes, and press Romania to move ahead in key areas of
reform.
Romania faces many challenges in the years ahead. Corruption is
endemic, undercutting attempts to attract more foreign investment and
pervading the daily lives of ordinary Romanians. The judicial system
and public administration are in dire need of reform and reports of
attacks on independent journalists have been on the rise. As Romania
prepares for EU membership, planned for 2007, it will need to tackle
these issues with increased vigor, and the United States. must stand
ready to help in any way it can to support Romania's aspirations to
fully integrate itself with the West. Greater attention to these areas
is equally critical to the long-term strength of the United States-
Romanian partnership. One way we can contribute to meeting these goals
is through the continued assistance provided to Romania through our
Support for East European Democracy (SEED) program.
United States assistance to Romania plays an important role in
supporting market-based reforms, promoting participatory democracy,
strengthening civil society, and relieving human suffering. It also
helps Romania to strengthen its anti-corruption activities across all
sectors. SEED assistance is helping to expand a market-based private
sector and improve the quality of life for people in Romania.
Strengthening the institutional capacity of the government and private
sector is a priority, as is enhancing private sector competitiveness
and improving the privatization process for state-owned assets.
Promoting United States democratic governance objectives at the local
level in the democratization and broader civil society spheres are
accomplished through training and technical assistance.
SEED funds also help to advance child welfare, health care, and
social assistance reform, all areas where Romania still is seriously
behind. Finally, the Bucharest-based Southeastern Europe Cooperative
Initiative's (SECI) Anti-Crime Center, which coordinates regional
criminal task forces working to counter human trafficking, smuggling,
and the drug trade, also receives SEED funding. With financial and
other support from the Romanian Government, the SECI Anti-Crime Center
has achieved a number of successes in the fight against trans-border
crime.
Cooperation across such a wide range of issues has been crucial in
building the strong partnership the United States shares with Romania
today. We are confident that the relationships built over the years of
providing such assistance have laid the groundwork for future
cooperation based on common goals and values that will last long after
Romania's graduation from U.S. assistance programs.
Question. What activities are being considered to bolster reform
efforts in Macedonia and Albania that are necessary for consideration
of these countries' respective entry into NATO?
Answer. The United States is committed to assisting the reform
efforts of NATO's aspirant countries, and supports both Albania's and
Macedonia's aspirations to join the Alliance.
This latest round of enlargement is not NATO's last and the door to
membership remains open. However, there is no timetable for the next
round of enlargement.
The Membership Action Plan (MAP) remains the road to NATO
membership. Invitations will depend on the ability of each aspirant
government to achieve the necessary political, economic, military,
resource, and security reforms as described in their MAP Annual
National Programs (ANPs). The Alliance will look at the progress that
individual countries make on their ANPs when considering when to make
future invitation decisions.
The United States will continue to assist aspirant countries
bilaterally as well as through NATO structures. Within the funds
approved by Congress, the Administration will continue to pursue
targeted programs, including Foreign Military Financing and
International Military Education and Training programs to further
military reforms and NATO compatibility, as well as Support for East
European Democracy programs to advance political, economic, and civil
society reforms to bring these countries closer to NATO membership.
Regular bilateral political, economic, and defense discussions provide
continuing guidance to the aspirants' efforts.
The Adriatic Charter, which holds its second biannual Partnership
Commission meeting in Skopje May 20, is another useful mechanism for
promoting regional cooperation and concrete reforms by the aspirant
countries that address common and specific ANP deficiencies.
Question. What is the State Department doing to safeguard the lives
and dignity of North Korean refugees in China and elsewhere?
Answer. Since 1999, the State Department has funded a program that
provides humanitarian assistance to vulnerable North Koreans in
northeastern China. In Washington and through our Embassy and
consulates in China we continue to press the PRC to live up to its
obligation as a signatory to the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status
of Refugees and not deport any North Koreans back to the DPRK. We have
also made numerous representations urging the PRC to allow the United
Nations High Commissioner for Refugees access to North Koreans in China
in order to assess their status.
Question. Are reports that North Korea tests chemical weapons on
political prisoners accurate?
Answer. While we believe that North Korea possesses a chemical
weapons program, we have no credible information to support claims from
North Korean refugees that such weapons have been tested on prisoners.
Question. How have China and Russia pressured the North Koreans to
give up their weapons programs? Could both countries do more?
Answer. We are working closely with China and Russia in the six
party talks, which aim to give the DPRK the basis to make the strategic
decision that giving up its nuclear weapons programs would be in its
own best interests. From the first round of talks, in Beijing last
August, China and Russia have joined the United States, the ROK and
Japan to urge the DPRK to dismantle its nuclear weapons programs. The
five parties share the common goal of a denuclearized Korean Peninsula.
China has played an especially important role, helping to bring the
DPRK to the table, to move the process forward. The five parties share
the view that the dismantlement of North Korea's nuclear weapons
program is a multilateral problem requiring a multilateral response,
and both China and Russia have indicated they are prepared to actively
participate in a settlement that would achieve that outcome.
Question. Given North Korea's penchant for duplicity, how can the
United States trust any future agreement with North Korea on weapons
proliferation--or any other issue?
Answer. The United States seeks the complete, verifiable, and
irreversible dismantlement (CVID) of North Korea's nuclear program. In
any agreement with North Korea, we would not rely on trust alone.
Verification of CVID will be a critical component of any agreement, and
would involve the United States, the International Atomic Energy Agency
(IAEA), and other parties as appropriate. Throughout the
denuclearization process, the onus will be on the DPRK to provide
complete and accurate information about its activities, fully cooperate
with all necessary measures to verify that information, and to
dismantle its nuclear programs in a verifiable manner. We are confident
that, through appropriate verification measures, we could assess DPRK
cooperation and compliance. Furthermore, for the long term, we would
insist on DPRK return to full compliance with the Nuclear
Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) and an appropriate IAEA Safeguards
Agreement. In addition, as the President enunciated in his remarks at
the National Defense University on February 11, 2004, ``nations that
are serious about fighting proliferation will approve and implement the
Additional Protocol.''
Question. How involved is North Korea in the illicit narcotics
trade, and what is the nature of its involvement?
Answer. For decades North Koreans have been apprehended for
trafficking in narcotics and engaging in other forms of criminal
behavior, including passing counterfeit United States currency.
Defectors and informants report that large-scale opium poppy
cultivation and production of heroin and methamphetamine occurs in the
DPRK. A defector identified as a former North Korean high-level
government official testified in May 2003 before the United States
Senate that poppy cultivation and heroin and methamphetamine production
were conducted in North Korea by order of the regime. The government
then engaged in drug trafficking to earn large sums of foreign currency
unavailable to the regime through legal transactions. The testimony and
other reports have not been conclusively verified by independent
sources. Defector statements; however, are consistent over years, and
occur in the context of regular narcotics seizures linked to North
Korea.
During 2003, there was one major heroin trafficking incident linked
to North Korea. The ``Pong Su,'' a vessel owned by a North Korean
enterprise, was seized by Australian Federal Police (AFP) and other
Australian security forces in mid-April 2003 after apparently
delivering 125 kilograms of heroin to criminals at an isolated beach
near Lorne, Australia. Another incident with a connection to North
Korea occurred in June in Pusan, South Korea, where customs authorities
seized 50 kilograms of methamphetamine from a Chinese vessel that had
stopped at the port of Najin, North Korea, before arriving in Pusan.
The ``Pong Su'' seizure and numerous drug smuggling incidents linked to
North Korea over the past several decades, reflect official involvement
in the trafficking of illicit narcotics for profit, and make it highly
likely, but not certain, that P'yongyang is trading narcotic drugs for
profit as state policy.
Japan is one of the largest markets for methamphetamine in Asia,
with an estimated annual import of 10-20 metric tons. Traffickers from
the DPRK have targeted the Japanese market in the past, and there have
been regular, large seizures of DPRK methamphetamine in Japan since the
mid-1990s. Although there were no seizures in Japan during 2003 that
could be linked to the DPRK, Japanese authorities believe that roughly
30 percent of methamphetamine seized in Japan is connected to the DPRK.
There is no evidence that illicit drugs trafficked from the DPRK
reach the United States, directly or indirectly.
State trading of narcotics is a conspiracy between officials at the
highest levels of the ruling party/government and their subordinates to
cultivate, manufacture, and/or traffic narcotics with impunity through
the use of, but not limited to, state-owned assets. Law enforcement
cases over the years have not only clearly established that North
Korean diplomats, military officers, and other party/government
officials have been involved in the smuggling of narcotics, but also
that state-owned assets, particularly ships, have been used to
facilitate and support international drug trafficking ventures.
The ``Pong Su'' narcotics seizure occurred within the context of a
range of criminal activities perpetrated by North Korean officials.
Those activities include the September 2002 admission by DPRK officials
of involvement by state security in the kidnapping of a group of
Japanese nationals held captive in North Korea for several decades.
North Korean officials have been apprehended for drug trafficking and
other offenses in countries around the world and have used diplomatic
pouches to conceal transport of illicit narcotics. Numerous North
Korean defectors have publicly stated that opium was grown in North
Korea and refined into heroin, which then was trafficked under the
direction of an office of the ruling Communist Party of North Korea.
Information developed by law enforcement in Japan, on Taiwan, and
elsewhere has repeatedly pointed to the involvement of DPRK officials
and DPRK state-owned assets in narcotics trafficking. Specific examples
of involvement of officials and state assets include calls at North
Korean ports by traffickers' boats to pick up drugs, travel by
traffickers to North Korea to discuss aspects of the trafficking
operation, and suspected drug trafficking by North Korean patrol
vessels, which were thought to engage only in espionage.
DPRK-linked drug trafficking has evolved over the years from
individual DPRK officials apprehended for trafficking in narcotics in
the 1970s and 1980s to the apparent direct involvement of military
officials and vessels providing drugs within North Korean territory to
trafficking organizations for wider distribution in East Asia. The
``Pong Su'' incident seemingly signals a further shift in North Korean
involvement in drug trafficking. It is the first indication that North
Korean enterprises and assets are actively transporting significant
quantities of illicit narcotics to a designated destination outside the
protection of DPRK territorial boundaries. Information has also been
acquired indicating that North Koreans, employed by state-owned
enterprises located in various Asian countries, have attempted to
arrange large-scale drug transactions with undercover narcotics
officers. Informants have also reported traveling to North Korea as
guests of the government to meet with military officials to arrange
drug deals. Although some of the information gathered is incomplete or
unverified, the quantity of information and quality of many reports
give credence to allegations of state sponsorship of drug production
and trafficking that can not be ignored. It appears doubtful that large
quantities of illicit narcotics could be produced in and/or trafficked
through North Korea without high-level party and/or government
involvement, if not state support.
DPRK spokespersons deny any state involvement in criminality,
ascribe that criminality to individuals, and threaten punishment under
DPRK laws. However, year-after-year, incidents pointing towards
increasingly large scale trafficking in narcotics, and other forms of
criminality linked to the DPRK, accumulate.
The cumulative impact of these incidents over years, in the context
of other publicly acknowledged behavior by the North Korean such as the
Japanese kidnappings mentioned above points to the likelihood, not the
certainty, of state-directed trafficking by the leadership of North
Korea. What we know about North Korean drug trafficking has come
largely from investigation of trafficking operations like that of the
``Pong Su'', which have gone wrong, and thus come to the attention of
authorities. We know much less about the way North Korea is led and
administered, thus the continuing uncertainty.
There is also strong reason to believe that methamphetamine and
heroin are manufactured in North Korea as a result of the same state
directed conspiracy behind trafficking, but we lack reliable
information on the scale of such manufacturing. The United States will
continue to monitor closely developments in North Korea to test the
validity of the judgment that drugs are probably being trafficked under
the guidance of the state and to see if evidence emerges confirming
manufacture of heroin and methamphetamine.
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Question Submitted by Senator Mike DeWine
Question. Public reports suggest there are links between former
senior Haitian officials in the Aristide government, and the deaths of
and attacks on, a number of opposition members. There are also
allegations that several of these individuals were involved with
narcotics trafficking and corruption. Can you provide us with any
documents that would substantiate these allegations?
Answer. INL has no information regarding the opposition members. We
can tell you that what information is available has been briefed to
members of Congress.
The Department of Justice/DEA is conducting an investigation of
drug trafficking in Haiti and all questions relating to criminal
allegations against the Aristide Government should be directed to them.
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Questions Submitted by Senator Patrick J. Leahy
Question. Despite months of searching, we have found no weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq and before the war there was no evidence that
Iraq was responsible for 9/11 or that Saddam Hussein was involved with
al Qaeda. Yet these were two key justifications for launching a
preemptive war in Iraq.
A recent Pew Research poll showed that the credibility and
reputation of the United States have been badly damaged, especially in
Muslim countries but also among our closest allies, as a result of the
President's policy.
How has this affected your ability to build support not only for
our policy in Iraq, but also in Haiti and other parts of the world?
Answer. Although weapons of mass destruction (WMD) have not yet
been found in Iraq, the fact remains that Saddam Hussein had possessed
and used such weapons in the past. He also made no secret of his
intention to continue his efforts to acquire WMD. His capability to
manufacture and distribute WMD was a real threat and his removal and
capture, along with the disintegration of the Baathist party, has
reduced that threat for Iraqis, the region and the world.
Although our country's policies may be unpopular in certain
regions, we continue to work to explain and to build support for our
policies and actions, both through traditional diplomatic channels and
through public diplomacy. We are actively engaged with governments and
publics in all parts of the world, including the Muslim world,
advocating our policies and informing others about our American society
and values. Though this mission is challenging, as evidenced in recent
polls, we will continue to be vigorously engaged. Opposition to our
policies is a reality, and we cannot afford to answer our critics with
silence.
Question. As best I can tell, we are spending, at a minimum, $21
million for private security contractors in Iraq to protect Ambassador
Bremer and other CPA officials. USAID and other U.S. government
agencies also have private security contractors, as do U.S. companies
doing business there.
Who is paying for these security personnel? The other day they got
into the middle of a firefight with Iraqis and they even called in
their own helicopter for air support. An article in today's Washington
Post entitled ``Under Fire, Security Firms Form An Alliance,'' says,
``The presence of so many armed security contractors in a hot conflict
zone is unprecedented in U.S. history.'' It also describes how these
individuals have gotten involved in combat without backup from the U.S.
military.
Answer. The armed civilian contract employees to whom you have
referred in your question have worked under the authority of the
Department of Defense or the Coalition Provisional Authority, and not
under the authority of the Department of State. Questions concerning
these contract employees, and the contracts under which they operate,
should be referred to the Department of Defense.
As to your specific reference to the protective detail assigned to
Ambassador Paul Bremmer, these personnel have been contracted by the
Coalition Provisional Authority and are supervised and directed by
them. A similar contract detail is planned for Ambassador Negroponte,
and will possibly use some or all of the contract employees currently
assigned to Ambassador Bremmer. At the time of Ambassador Bremmer's
departure, the supervision of that contract will be assumed by the
Department of State. It is our understanding that the current cost of
this detail is approximately $2.1 million per month.
As to the personal protection of other representatives of the
Coalition Provisional Authority, the Department of State has not been
involved in this activity, and has no way of determining these costs.
Question. Is the Administration moving to install Mr. Chalabi as
the leader of Iraq after the June 30 deadline?
Answer. U.N. Special Advisor Lakhdar Brahimi is leading the effort
to forge a consensus among Iraqis on the formation of the Iraqi Interim
Government (IIG), which will administer the country as it prepares for
national elections no later than January 2004. The composition of the
IIG will reflect the outcome of Brahimi's broad consultations,
including with members of the Iraqi Governing Council and the Coalition
Provisional Authority. The Administration fully supports Mr. Brahimi's
efforts.
Question. 85 percent of the troops are Americans. On the
reconstruction side, no other nation comes close to us. The next
biggest contributor is Great Britain, which has contributed a little
more than $1 billion.
Have you sought additional help from our allies, including our Arab
allies, and what has been the result?
Answer. In terms of military contributions, there are currently 34
countries contributing approximately 24,500 troops. We are always
seeking additional contributions. We recently approached about a dozen
countries to request support for a dedicated force to provide security
for U.N. operations in Iraq. Among these were one Arab, two Muslim and
four South Asian countries.
The response to our solicitation of financial assistance has been
even more encouraging. At the Madrid Conference, 38 nations pledged
over $13 billion, of which $1 billion was committed to 2004 spending at
the February conference in Abu Dhabi. Japan has pledged $4.9 billion,
Saudi Arabia pledged $1 billion as well: $500 million in grants and
loans and an additional $500 million in export credits and guarantees,
along with Denmark ($156 million) and Austria ($12 million). In
addition to its monterary pledge of $5 million, Iran pledged $1.5
billion in credit facilities, restoration of religious sites, tourism
and pilgrimmage, technical and advisory services, trade, investment,
market access, and humanitarian assistance.
Kuwait has pledged $500 million, and the United Arab Emirates,
Italy, Spain, and South Korea each pledged over $200 million. Arab and
Muslim nations contributing other significant amounts include Qatar
($100 million), Pakistan ($100 million), Turkey ($50 million), and Oman
($3 million).
Arab and Muslim countries that made in-kind pledges included
Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, and Tunisia, nearly all of which included
offers for assistance in police training. Two other Muslim countries
are among the coalition-supporting nations: Morocco and Uzbekistan.
Question. What is the President, National Security Advisor, and OMB
Director doing to defend the Administration's budget request for
Foreign Operations?
Answer. This winter, President Bush submitted a robust request of
$21.3 billion for foreign operations. Since that time, President Bush
and National Security Advisor Condolleeza Rice have forcefully
advocated for the President's national security priorities as reflected
in the Administration's fiscal year 2005 budget request.
In early February 2005, OMB Director Joshua Bolten testified before
both the Senate Budget Committee and House Budget Committee defending
the President's fiscal year 2005 Budget. Since that time,
representatives of the Administration have appeared before numerous
committees to defend the President's request for foreign operations.
They include Secretary Powell's appearances before the Senate Budget
Committee, Senate Appropriations subcommittees on Foreign Operations
and Commerce, Justice and State, Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
House Appropriations subcommittees on Foreign Operations and Commerce,
Justice and State, and the House International Relations Committee.
Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, U.S. Agency for
International Development Administrator Andrew Natsios, and Global AIDS
Coordinator Randall Tobias, among others, have all appeared before a
number of congressional committees to defend the Administration's
fiscal year 2005 budget request for foreign operations.
humanitarian assistance
Question. Mr. Secretary, in your written testimony you state ``the
President's Budget Request reflects a continued commitment to
humanitarian assistance.'' But when I look at the budget request I
don't see this commitment. For example:
--Child Survival and Health programs are cut by $100 million;
--``Emergency'' Refugee Assistance is down by about $30 million;
--``Regular'' Refugee Assistance is down by about $30 million;
--The budget for Food Aid is flat lined; and
--Funding for the Global Fund to Fight HIV/AIDS, TB, and Malaria is
cut by $350 million.
I don't want to rehash all of the numbers, but last year's budget
also proposed deep cuts to many of these same accounts. This
subcommittee had to restore many of those funds. How do these cuts
reflect a ``continued commitment'' towards humanitarian assistance?
Answer. Even though we are on a war-time footing, foreign
assistance is a higher priority than it has been in many years. This is
most clearly evidenced by the President's additional funding requests
for the Global HIV/AIDS Initiative (GHAI) and the Millennium Challenge
Account (MCA). Overall funding for foreign assistance has increased
greatly.
While much of the recent foreign assistance funding increase is
because of massive assistance efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the
Administration is requesting a total of nearly $4 billion for the GHAI
and the MCA in 2005. Some of the activities that have been funded under
the traditional Child Survival and Health account will be covered under
the GHAI and USAID is likely going to manage funding for ``threshold''
countries under the MCA. In regard to food aid, it is always difficult
to predict emergency humanitarian needs, but the Public Law 480 account
has the flexibility to shift some resources from the food for
development programs to meet emergency relief requirements. And in the
case of extreme need, there is the authority to draw on the Bill
Emerson Humanitarian Trust, or even seek supplemental appropriations
from the Congress.
By no means is there a cut in foreign assistance.
Question. Do you agree that our foreign aid agreements with Egypt
should be renegotiated so the Egyptian Government no longer holds a
veto over the use of U.S. aid dollars, and that more of our aid should
be used to strengthen the role of civil society groups?
Answer. The Government of Egypt (GOE) and the USG jointly agree
every year on the use of aid dollars. Our assistance program is
codified in our bilateral Treaty agreement with the GOE; something that
we do not believe should be changed at this time. Such joint decision-
making has been the principle and practice of this assistance since the
beginning of our program with Egypt more than twenty years ago. This
program, rooted in the Camp David Accords, has achieved many benefits
for the United States and Egypt and is one whose programs are
continually evolving.
Our most recent discussions with the GOE, held in November 2003 on
the topic of a new Democracy and Governance assistance funding, were
frank and are ongoing. In 1998, we negotiated funding changes to the
program. At these discussions, we jointly agreed with both the GOE and
the Government of Israel to reduce economic assistance funding levels.
Such levels will take us from $535 million for fiscal year 2005 to $415
million for fiscal year 2008. These discussions were held in a
productive atmosphere with the GOE officials charged with renegotiating
this significant package. If changes are to be made to the program, we
are confident that we will have an engaged partner. However, a full
renegotiation of the agreement would require changes to the Accords--a
difficult and costly exercise to implement.
The GOE does not hold a veto over U.S. Government assistance to
Egypt. This is evidenced by the fact that we have just completed a
review of the assistance program that intends to advance new program
initiatives in the areas of economic reform, democracy and governance,
health, education, and the environment, among other areas. Changes to
the formulation of our assistance program for Egypt do not inhibit us
from making these initiatives, and despite some GOE resistance to some
of our proposals we have been and will continue to discuss these
proposals in detail with the GOE.
One specific area where we will advance changes is in the realm of
democracy and governance. We agree with you that more of our aid
dollars should be used to strengthen the role of civil society groups
in this area. We believe that these groups are critical to ensuring
that reform and development are achieved within Egypt, and are
confident that the changes taking place in Egyptian society today will
support such assistance.
Question. What is the United States doing to make sure that Charles
Taylor is transferred to the Special Court for Sierra Leone before the
Court's mandate expires, possibly as early as mid-2005?
Answer. We share the concern of Congress that Charles Taylor not
escape justice simply by remaining a fugitive until the Special Court's
mandate expires.
We are in frequent contact with Nigeria on the issue of Charles
Taylor. We have made clear to President Obasanjo and others that our
mutual goal must be for Charles Taylor to be answerable to the charges
and answerable to the Special Court for Sierra Leone. As part of his
introductory calls and our ongoing efforts on this subject, recently
confirmed Ambassador Campbell will raise the Taylor issue with
President Olusegun Obasanjo and other senior leaders.
We are looking at appropriate ways to ensure that Taylor will not
escape justice because of the expiration of the Special Court's
mandate.
Charles Taylor and the people of Sierra Leone must know that Taylor
will answer for his actions.
Question. Bob Woodward, in his recent book ``Plan of Attack,''
writes that $700 million in funds appropriated for Afghanistan and the
war on terrorism was diverted for use in preparing for the U.S.
invasion of Iraq. This was apparently done without any knowledge of
Congress. Were you aware of this?
Answer. No. Questions about how DOD prioritized its funding prior
to OIF should be directed to the Pentagon.
Question. The Administration has rejected Richard Clarke's claim
that the Bush Administration was not sufficiently focused on al Qaeda
before 9/11. I don't want to get into that, but isn't a key issue
whether launching a preemptive war against Iraq, which posed no
imminent threat to the United States or to our allies and there was no
evidence--none--that Saddam Hussein was involved with al Qaeda or 9/11,
has made us safer from terrorists?
Answer. Operation Iraqi Freedom has made the United States safer
from terrorists by eliminating one of the principal state sponsors of
terrorism, an enemy of the United States and our Middle East allies.
The Iraqi regime posed a threat because it was the sworn enemy of
the United States and those who supported our efforts to contain Iraq
in accordance with the decisions of the United Nations Security
Council. The Saddam Hussein regime was a threat because it had used
chemical weapons against its neighbors, and its own people. It was a
threat because it sought for years to acquire a broad variety of
weapons of mass destruction in violation of international law,
including seventeen U.N. Security Council resolutions and Iraq's own
treaty commitments. It was a threat because it invaded its neighbor
Kuwait, a longstanding friend and ally of the United States. It was a
threat because it attacked Israel with scud missiles in 1991. It was a
threat because it had connections to terrorist groups. And it was a
threat because it provided safe haven for known terrorists. Iraq thus
did pose a threat to the United States and its allies and interests. As
we continue to prosecute the global war on terrorism, including in
Iraq, we will continue to reduce the terrorist threat to our country
and our citizens.
The Iraqi regime had connections to terrorist organizations such as
the Abu Nidal Organization and the Mujahedin-e-Khalq. Members of a
terrorist network headed by a senior al Qaeda terrorist affiliate, Abu
Musab Zarqawi, established a nascent presence in Iraq in mid-2002,
probably with the knowledge of at least some Iraqi security officials.
Zarqawi and his associates are still in Iraq, and it was Zarqawi who
most recently claimed personally to have carried out the barbaric
beheadings of United States and Coalition nationals. Zarqawi also
oversaw the assassination of USAID officer Laurence Foley in Jordan in
October 2002. Iraq provided material assistance to Palestinian
terrorist groups, and paid $25,000 financial tributes to the families
of Palestinian suicide bombers.
It has never been the contention of this Administration that the
terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 were orchestrated jointly by
Iraq and al Qaeda, as your question suggests.
Question. Can you provide any evidence--evidence, not speculation--
that Americans are safer, either at home or when they travel abroad,
because of the removal of Saddam Hussein, given the damage the war has
done to our credibility and our reputation, and the anger it has caused
throughout the Muslim world?
Answer. We do not agree with your implication that the security of
the United States has been damaged by Operation Iraqi Freedom. Quite
the contrary, the President has demonstrated that he means what he says
and that the United States will not stand idly by when the safety and
security of the American people are in jeopardy.
We also are confident that the United States and its citizens are
safer at home and abroad because of the removal of a ruthless tyrant.
Iraq was a longstanding state sponsor of terrorism. The Iraqi
Intelligence Service itself targeted United States citizens, and it
supported extremist and terrorist groups to further its agenda. Only
the most well-known example was the attempt by Iraqi agents to
assassinate former President George H.W. Bush on a trip to Kuwait. The
Iraqi Intelligence Service reportedly instructed its agents that their
main mission was to obtain information about United States and Israeli
targets. Iraq for years was a safehaven, transit point, and operational
base for groups and individuals who directed violence against the
United States, Israel and our allies. Iraq provided safe haven and
support for the Abu Nidal Organization, an extremely violent terrorist
group that has become largely moribund in recent years. Among its
earlier terrorist acts, the group machine-gunned scores of Christmas
travelers in simultaneous and coordinated attacks at airports in Rome
and Vienna in 1985. Five U.S. citizens were among those killed. With
the fall of the Saddam Hussein regime, terrorist organizations have
lost their state sponsor and haven. This undoubtedly has made America,
and the rest of the world, safer.
Iraq also supported the anti-Iranian Mujahedin-e-Khalq, the
Palestine Liberation Front, and the Arab Liberation Front, all
extremely violent terrorist groups. Moreover, Baghdad provided material
assistance to other Palestinian terrorist groups in the forefront of
the intifadah being waged against Israel. The Popular Front for the
Liberation of Palestine-General Command, HAMAS, and the Palestine
Islamic Jihad are only the three most important of the terrorist groups
to which the Saddam Hussein regime extended outreach and support,
although his support to those groups was less than that provided by
Damascus and Tehran. As previously noted, Saddam Hussein paid the
families of Palestinian suicide bombers large sums of money; these
terrorists undertook attacks that have killed innocent American
citizens in Israel. All of these groups have lost a principal state
patron that provided them with a safe haven, financial support or an
operational base to conduct terrorist acts against the United States
and its allies. The removal of that regime, and the consequent blow to
these terrorist groups formerly under Saddam's wing, unquestionably
have made the United States and its citizens safer, both at home and
abroad.
Question. Our credibility as a nation has been badly damaged. In
countries like Jordan, Pakistan and Morocco--allies of ours that
receive hundreds of millions in U.S. aid, a majority of the people
supports Osama bin Laden and believes our motives in Iraq are to
control Middle East oil and dominate the world. This has given fodder
to Muslim extremists who call for the annihilation of America. How has
this made us safer?
Answer. Any suggestion that the motives of the United States in
Iraq are to control Middle East oil and dominate the world is belied by
the fact that the United States now is in the process of handing over
sovereignty over Iraq to the Interim Iraqi Government. The IIG will
prepare the way for the election of the first truly democratic
government in Iraqi's history. This is the best riposte to those in the
region who might question our motives.
Moreover, the President last year announced a ``forward strategy
for freedom'' in the broader Middle East and North Africa. Operating
principally through the U.S. Middle East Partnership Initiative, the
President's vision recognizes that political, social and economic
reforms are urgently needed in the region. It aims to encourage reform
and democracy as alternatives to fanaticism, resentment, and terror. It
is the lack of opportunity, the lack of firm democratic institutions,
sensationalized media reporting, and a collective sense of
powerlessness that drives young people to revere and support terrorists
such as Usama bin Laden as an alternative to their present situation.
The President is committed to working with our friends and allies, both
within and outside of the region, to give these young people a
reasonable basis for hope for a better life.
Question. Democracy is on life support in Russian. Every day,
President Putin acts more like the autocratic rulers of the past. Is
this the beginning of a new cold war, as Senator McCain has warned?
What does it mean for Russia's future?
Back during the Clinton Administration, Senator McConnell and I
were very critical of Russia's policies in Chechnya, where the Russian
army was ruthlessly targeting civilians. During the past two years, the
situation has not improved, but this Administration, especially since
September 11, has been only mildly critical. Do you agree, as we told
the Clinton Administration four years ago, that the Russians, as well
as the Chechen rebels, have committed war crimes in Chechnya, and what
are we doing to try to get them to stop?
Answer. A historic positive transformation has occurred in Russia
during the twelve years since the collapse of the Soviet Union. In the
1990s, Russia made great strides in securing basic freedoms, such as
expression, religion and the ability to choose its leaders through
elections. However, the pattern of official pressure on the independent
broadcast media, irregularities in elections, the arrest and detention
of some prominent business executives, and other developments have
raised questions about Russia's commitment to democracy and the rule of
law. The international community, including the United States, can help
Russia become a more open society through continued engagement and
assistance, especially in the area of developing democratic
institutions. Ultimately, however, it is up to the Russians to
determine the kind of political system in which they live. While in
Moscow in January, I emphasized that the United States wants a robust
partnership with Russia, but that without a basis of common principles,
the U.S.-Russian relationship will fail to reach its potential.
Regarding Chechnya, we continue to be very concerned about credible
reports containing allegations that Russian forces have committed
atrocities, including extra-judicial killings, torture and rape. Such
allegations raise fundamental questions of compliance with
international humanitarian law. We are concerned as well by reports
that allege Chechen forces have committed some similar abuses. The well
documented and numerous human rights abuses committed by all parties to
the conflict in Chechnya must be stopped. Russian authorities need to
redouble efforts to control the behavior of government forces, both
local and federal.
In April, the United States voted in favor of the EU-sponsored
resolution on Chechnya at the U.N. Commission on Human Rights that
strongly condemned human rights violations in Chechnya. The
resolution--which failed--urged the Russian government ``to take
urgently all necessary measures to stop and prevent violations of human
rights and international humanitarian law . . .'' The United States
recognizes that Russia has a right to take appropriate measures to
protect its citizens from terrorist attacks, but any military
activities in Chechnya must be conducted within the framework of
international humanitarian law. We condemn any and all abuses of human
rights by all parties to the conflict. The settlement of the Chechen
conflict must be a peaceful one, and we see free and fair elections of
Kadyrov's successor as a possible first-step to defusing the violence
in the region.
Question. Just this week, the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, the World
Health Organization, UNICEF, and the Clinton Foundation, announced that
they are joining forces to provide generic AIDS drugs to poor countries
at a fraction of the cost that U.S. drug companies charge.
The United States, however, has so far refused to join them, which
means we are paying 4-5 times the cost per person for AIDS drugs. Given
that the lives of millions of people are at stake, what steps are being
taken to resolve the Administration's differences with the WHO with
respect to safety and efficacy standards for HIV combination therapies?
Answer. Our policy for the procurement of antiretroviral treatments
under the Emergency Plan is to provide drugs that are safe, effective,
and of high quality at the lowest cost regardless of origin or who
produces them to the extent permitted by law. This may include true
generics, copies or brand name products. A true generic drug is one
that has undergone review to ensure that it is comparable to an
innovator drug in dosage form, strength, route of administration,
quality, performance characteristics, and intended use. Drugs that have
not gone through such a process are more accurately described as
copies.
On March 29-30, 2004, in Gaborone, Botswana, an international
conference was held on fixed-dose combination (FDC) drug products. The
conference included representatives of 23 governments, drug regulatory
agencies, research-based and generic pharmaceutical industry, public
health leaders, health care providers, advocacy groups (including
persons living with HIV/AIDS), academia, and multilateral and non-
governmental organizations. We were very pleased with the broad
international support and participation that the conference generated,
including from the conference co-sponsors: the Joint United Nations
Program on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS), the World Health Organization (WHO), and
the Southern African Development Community (SADC).
The conference successfully completed a vital step forward in
developing commonly agreed-upon scientific and technical international
principles to evaluate the quality, safety, and efficacy of FDCs for
use in treating HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria. The conference
sponsors, representatives, and experts agreed that the final principles
are not intended to and should not impede access to safe, efficacious,
and high quality FDCs by people living with HIV/AIDS. The principles
are not intended to address specific quality issues, or to develop
clinical, therapeutic, or regulatory guidelines. Rather the document
will provide scientific and technical principles for considering,
developing, and evaluating FDCs for use in treatment. It is anticipated
that the principles will be of use to regulatory agencies around the
world, as well as to pharmaceutical companies and other organizations
involved in developing and evaluating FDCs. In this regard, the
principles will aid us in determining the standards we will expect
fixed-dose combination drugs to meet to qualify for our purchase and
expedite the process by which we can purchase lower-cost, non-patented
FDCs with confidence.
We have the highest respect for the WHO and its prequalification
pilot program. However, the WHO is not a regulatory authority. We must
be assured that the drugs we provide meet acceptable safety and
efficacy standards and are of high quality.
Under the Emergency Plan, we intend to support programs that will
have a sustainable positive impact on health. If the medications in
question have not been adequately evaluated or have had problems with
safety or cause resistance issues in the future, we will be
appropriately held accountable. We will continue to work with WHO and
the international community on this important area. The finalization
and adoption of the principles document for FDCs will be a major step
forward for all. The final statement of principles is expected to be
released during the second quarter of 2004.
Question. The Colombian Government is working on a law that would
give concessions to members of paramilitary and rebel groups in return
for giving up their arms. The first version of this law was widely
criticized because it would have allowed drug traffickers and
terrorists to avoid jail. A second version has been drafted, but it
still leaves many questions unanswered. The State Department has said
that it will not support any agreement that allows these people to
avoid extradition to the United States. But there are many others who
were responsible for horrific crimes, for whom there are not
extradition warrants. Do you agree that while we want to support the
demobilization of these armed groups, we should not support an approach
that allows people who have committed gross violations of human rights
to avoid the punishment they deserve?
Answer. The United States has always supported the Government of
Colombia's position that it would enter into a peace process with any
of the illegal armed groups willing to first declare a ceasefire. A
credible peace process can help end the violence in Colombia and
achieve an enduring peace. To be credible, we believe that a peace
process must include the rapid disarmament and demobilization of
illegal armed groups, justice for victims, and legal accountability for
the perpetrators of gross human rights violations and narcotics
trafficking. We have insisted that in any process:
(1) We will continue to seek extradition of any Colombians who have
been indicted in the United States now and in the future;
(2) Gross violators of human rights should be subject to judicial
process for their crimes in Colombia;
(3) There should be the rapid disarmament, demobilization and
reintegration of former militants; and,
(4) The Government of Colombia should control any zones in which
members of illegal armed groups are concentrated for the purposes of
demobilization and disarmament.
colombian contractors
Question. I am very concerned about the use of American contractors
in Colombia, where they are flying light weight aircraft in very
dangerous circumstances. Pilots have written letters in protest for
which they have been reprimanded. Planes have crashed, a shell company
consisting of little more than a post office box has been set up to
avoid legal liability and the families of the men who have been
kidnapped or killed have not been able to get their questions answered.
There was a series of articles last November in the Times Picayune,
which I hope your staff has made available to you. There are serious
problems with the way this program has been managed and I hope you will
look into it. I would appreciate any information you can provide
regarding steps taken to improve oversight of this program, and to
ensure that there is appropriate accountability, both on the of the
U.S. Government and civilian contractors, when negligence or misconduct
occurs.
Answer. The United States Government employs civilian contractors
because of the flexibility in planning they allow and because the
skills they provide are often not otherwise available to the
government. They provide training, equipment, infrastructure
development, and expertise to the Government of Colombia and Colombian
civil society in a variety of areas. Both the Departments of State and
Defense contract out work requiring the piloting of aircraft and are
constantly evaluating operations to refine procedures and improve
security for contract personnel in this area.
With regard to contractors who work in the aerial eradication
program, State has taken several measures to improve their safety and
welfare. In response to increased hostile groundfire this past year, we
successfully encouraged the Colombian National Police to add an
additional helicopter to each squadron of aircraft that escorts and
provides protection to spray missions. We also have coordinated with
the Colombian Army to prioritize ground troop presence in areas slated
for eradication where hostile fire is anticipated. Conducting spray
operations is inherently dangerous work. All of the pilots in the spray
program receive specialized training for the type of flying and local
conditions that they will face. We also provide advanced survival
training for our pilots in the case of a forced landing.
Each spray mission is planned taking into account the need for
maximum security, using all available intelligence. If a spray mission
should face significant risk, it is either cancelled or conducted with
stepped up coordination with Colombian security forces on the ground.
Counter Drug Brigade and other Colombian army ground troops conduct
interdiction operations in the vicinity of aerial eradication to
provide increased support when required. Armed security escort
helicopters and at least one search and rescue helicopter accompany
every spray mission.
The contractors presently held hostage by the Revolutionary Armed
Forces of Colombia (FARC) and the subject of the Times-Picayune
articles you mention, were employed by the Department of Defense, which
can provide you additional information regarding those air operations.
israeli-palestinian conflict/middle east reform
Question. [Part I] In a recent press conference with Prime Minister
Sharon, President Bush endorsed Mr. Sharon's position regarding the
right of return of Palestinian refugees and Israeli settlements in the
West Bank. Were you consulted on the specifics of the President's
announcement prior to the press conference? This unilateral decision
diverges in significant respects from the policy reiterated by past
U.S. presidents. Do you support this decision? How is this decision
consistent with U.N. Resolutions 242 and 238, which the United States
is on record supporting? What impact do you expect this decision to
have for U.S. relations with Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere in the
Middle East?
[Part II] The President recently announced his ``Greater Middle
East initiative.'' So far, the reaction of several key Arab leaders has
been one of skepticism, at best. What is the President's ``Greater
Middle East initiative?'' Is it in the budget, or is it just another
way of describing what we are doing already?
[Part III] Are we going to stop giving hundreds of millions of
dollars in aid and selling weapons to autocratic, corrupt governments
in the Middle East that do not show any interest in becoming more
democratic and that arrest people who speak in support of democracy?
Doesn't this make a mockery of the President's message?
Answer. [Part I] The President stated our views regarding certain
realities that we believe will shape the outcome of negotiations on
permanent status issues. The President also made clear that permanent
status issues must be negotiated between the parties, and stated that
we have no intention of prejudicing the outcome. It remains U.S. policy
that issues of refugees and borders must be decided by mutual agreement
and direct negotiation between the parties in accordance with U.N.
Security Council resolutions 242 and 338 and the roadmap.
[Part II] The Greater Middle East initiative is an effort to
marshal the will and resources of the G-8 and the EU in support of
indigenous efforts in the Middle East to bring about political,
economic, and educational reform. Despite initial skepticism, many Arab
leaders recognize the need to address reform issues and have welcomed
our willingness to help. Both the political statement and the specific
action plan to support reform that we and our G-8 partners will endorse
at the Sea Island Summit remain under discussion. We understand that,
once final decisions have been made on possible programmatic elements
of this initiative, the White House will be consulting with OMB and
Congress on resources.
[Part III] Our military assistance to certain select countries in
the Middle East is aimed at enhancing the ability of these governments
to maintain regional stability and to assist us in the global war on
terrorism. We also use this aid to enhance the professionalization of
the officer corps and to strengthen the separation between civilian and
military functions. At the same time, we are very sensitive to the need
for greater political openness and economic modernization in a number
of these countries; these concerns are the impetus for the Greater
Middle East Initiative and our efforts to promote political, economic,
and educational reform through programs such as those taking place
under the auspices of the U.S. Middle East Partnership Initiative.
Question. The situation in Haiti is obviously dire. The
Administration says there is a new opportunity now that President
Aristide is gone, although I gather the other Caribbean nations have so
far refused to recognize the new government because of concerns about
the way President Aristide left the country.
Do you plan to submit a budget amendment or supplemental request
for Haiti, or are you planning to just continue business as usual? I
ask because your budget request for Haiti for fiscal year 2005 is $24
million, down from $27 million in fiscal year 2004.
Answer. At this point, there is no need for a supplemental request
for Haiti.
The fiscal year 2004 allocation for Haiti, including food aid, is
approximately $55 million. In addition, we have provided more than $3
million in emergency assistance for the immediate humanitarian needs of
the Haitian people, and nearly $5 million to the Organization of
American States (OAS) for its Special Mission for Strengthening
Democracy in Haiti. The fiscal year 2005 budget request is $54 million.
We already have identified an additional $40 million from existing
funds for this year that we are reallocating to meet Haiti's short term
needs. We are continuing to review other potential sources of funding
for Haiti, and are working with the Haitian diaspora and international
donor community to encourage their contributions and support.
Question. In his November 6 speech to the National Endowment for
Democracy, President Bush said that Syria has left its people a legacy
of ``torture, oppression, misery, and ruin.'' The State Department's
human rights reports say that torture is commonplace in Syria, and they
describe the gruesome techniques used there, from electrical shocks to
pulling out fingernails, to ``using a chair that bends backwards to
asphyxiate the victim or fracture the victim's spine.''
And yet, in October 2002, the Justice Department deported, or
``rendered,'' a Syrian-born Canadian citizen, Maher Arar, who it
suspected of links to terrorism, to the custody of the Syrian
government. It did so on the basis of a promise by the Syrian
dictatorship that Arar would not be tortured. As you know, Arar was
ultimately released, and claims that he was in fact tortured.
A. How can we trust mere assurances from governments like Syria or
Egypt that they won't torture people we turn over to them, when we know
they abuse prisoners routinely? Should we turn over people to the
custody of governments that use torture?
B. Doesn't this policy of turning over prisoners to repressive
regimes undermine the President's message that America is going to
stand up for human rights and democracy, especially in the Middle East?
Answer. Mr. Maher Arar was detained in New York on September 26,
2002 by United States immigration and law enforcement authorities after
his name appeared on an immigration watch list. He was subsequently
refused entry into the United States under Section 235C of the United
States Immigration and Nationality Act based on information in the
possession of United States law enforcement officials. United States
immigration law gives the Attorney General the discretion to deport an
alien to the country in which he was born. I refer you to the Canadian
government and the United States Justice Department for the specifics
of Mr. Arar's case.
As a matter of principle, and in accordance with international law,
the United States does not turn people over to governments that we know
intend to abuse them. We strive to uphold international prohibitions
against the use of torture and we regularly call on other governments
to do the same.
Question. Aren't we asking for trouble when we gloss over these
facts and cozy up to a government that behaves this way?
Answer. The fact is we need Pakistan's help on many matters of
great importance to our national security. In the Global War on
Terrorism, Pakistan has assisted the capture of more than 550
terrorists, including many al-Qaeda. It has also recently undertaken
operations against al-Qaeda and Taliban forces on the Pakistani side of
the Afghan border. Such operations are continuing, and have helped
disrupt efforts to attack our forces in Afghanistan. Pakistan's
cooperation is also necessary for the success of our nonproliferation
efforts. Information provided by the Government of Pakistan has been
crucial to our ongoing efforts to put out of business the network
established by Pakistani nuclear scientist A.Q. Khan.
In the context of this important alliance, we engage Pakistan in
frank discussions of all issues to seek solutions that serve our
interests while preserving a critical relationship.
Question. Over the past two years we gave Pakistan a total of $1.3
billion. All that time we knew or had reason to suspect that Pakistan
was selling nuclear weapons technology to our enemies. And, if we
didn't suspect it--we should have. You are requesting another $700
million for Pakistan in fiscal year 2005. What consequences has
Pakistan suffered from selling nuclear weapons technology to Iraq and
North Korea? What message does this send to other nations?
Answer. As Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and
International Security John Bolton testified on March 30, 2004 to the
House International Relations Committee, we have no information that
contradicts President Musharraf's assurances that the top levels of the
government of Pakistan are not implicated in the activities of A.Q.
Khan. Pakistan has taken concrete steps to eliminate this network and
ensure that this kind of proliferation will never happen again.
Pakistan continues to share with the U.S. Government information being
developed through ongoing investigations. We are also continuing to
work with Pakistan to bring its export controls in line with
international standards.
Question. For the past four years, I and other Members of Congress,
and the State Department, have sought the assistance of the Lebanese
and Syrian governments in a case involving the abduction of two
American children by their Lebanese father. United States and Lebanese
courts have awarded the mother, Elizabeth Murad, sole and permanent
custody of the children. There is compelling evidence that the father
and children are in Syria, yet despite appeals to President al-Asad,
the Syrian government has done nothing. Your staff has been extremely
helpful, but so far we've gotten nowhere. Syrian officials say they are
attempting to solve this issue. What is your assessment of the Syrian
Government's efforts? Will you discuss this personally with President
al-Asad?
Answer. We have been vigorously pursuing a resolution to the Murad
child custody case for four years. During that time, we have raised the
case with both the Lebanese and Syrian governments at every possible
level, including with President Asad himself. While we appreciate the
assurances of various Syrian government officials that they are working
with us to find the Murad children and return them to their mother, we
find it difficult to believe that neither the Syrian or Lebanese
governments have been able to locate the father or the children.
Clearly, both governments need to redouble their efforts to find Liz
Henry Murad's children and return them to her as soon as possible.
Question. In the State Department's ``Performance and
Accountability Report to Congress,'' the Department concludes that it
is ``on target'' or ``above target'' in meeting almost all of its goals
with respect to sustainable development and environmental programs.
Yet, while we can point to accomplishments here or there, if you look
at the big picture, environmental degradation is getting steadily
worse, not better. According to the State Department, these are good
programs. But there is less than $300 million in this budget to protect
the environment worldwide. In fact, we have consistently given you more
than you've asked for, yet it is far less than many U.S. States spend.
Shouldn't we be spending a lot more on these programs, which the State
Department says are effective, to protect the environment?
Answer. We appreciate your strong interest in international
environmental initiatives. Under the new State/USAID Strategic Planning
Framework, the United States identifies advancing sustainable
development as one of four key strategic objectives. In reducing
poverty throughout the developing world, sustainable development
encompasses economic, social and environmental factors. Major
initiatives to achieve this goal have been undertaken in sectors
related to water, energy, forests, fish, climate, health, education,
and science.
We are also continuing to address environmental protection through
substantial contributions to the Montreal Protocol Multilateral Fund
and the Global Environment Facility. We are awaiting Senate action on a
landmark agreement--the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic
Pollutants--to phase out ozone depleting substances and we have taken
significant measures to conserve depleted fish stocks and other ocean
resources.
Regarding funding for both social and environmental programs, in
addition to the nearly $300 million in Department appropriations cited
in the Report, the Department also administers foreign operation
program resources totaling nearly $2 billion. These funds have enabled
us to leverage needed additional resources from foreign governments,
international organizations and the private sector to strengthen
international cooperation and build public-private partnerships. The
aforementioned $300 million funds key components of State operations as
well as international organizations, including the Pan American Health
Organization and the World Health Organization, to maintain their
efficiency and financial viability.
Question. On January 12, President Bush issued a proclamation,
effective immediately, suspending entry into the United States of
foreign officials who have been involved in corruption that has had
serious adverse effects on the national interests of the United States.
It also bars entry of their families. The Secretary of State is to
identify persons covered by this proclamation, and to implement it. Are
you doing that? Are you developing a list of persons who cannot enter
the United States on account of this proclamation? For example, are
former President Aleman of Nicaragua, or former President Portillo,
both of whom stole millions, on your list? If not, shouldn't they be?
Answer. The President gave me, as Secretary of State,
responsibility for administering this 212(f) Presidential Proclamation
on his behalf. I have approved procedures for implementation of the
Proclamation and have delegated the decision-making to the Under
Secretary for Political Affairs. Consistent with the procedures I
approved, our overseas posts have been given comprehensive instructions
relating to implementation of the Proclamation. The procedures involve
initially identifying persons potentially subject to the Proclamation
and watchlisting them. If the person actually applies for a visa or
holds a visa that might be revoked, the facts are developed more fully
to permit a decision by the Under Secretary whether the visa should be
denied or revoked.
The Department has not administered the Proclamation on the basis
of a list. Names are entered in the visa lookout system by posts or the
Department on a routine basis, and decisions subsequently are made on a
case-by-case basis. In recent months, the Department has found a number
of former officials subject to the Proclamation.
The visa records of the Department, including the visa lookout
system and records of decisions under the Proclamation, are deemed
confidential pursuant to Section 222(f) of the Immigration and
Nationality Act, and may be used for only the purposes specified in
that section. Thus we are not generally disclosing the names of persons
entered into the lookout system or specifically found subject to the
Proclamation.
Question. What specific steps is the Administration taking to
ensure that U.S. aid is conditioned on the transparent management of
oil and mining revenues in recipient countries?
Answer. The Administration has made reducing corruption and
enhancing transparency a top foreign policy priority because we believe
they are central to supporting sustainable development, creating stable
democracies, and advancing our national security interests. The
Administration works to promote transparent management of all public
sector resources, including those derived from oil and mining, even if
a country does not receive U.S. assistance. We promote international
efforts to raise transparency standards and improve public financial
management wherever possible, including through international financial
institutions (IFIs), through our own bilateral aid programs, in our
policy dialogue with the U.N. system and in the Organization for
Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), and through a vitally
important G-8 initiative that supports developing country efforts to
raise transparency standards and reinforces these other efforts.
Among our bilateral, regional and multilateral programs that
promote transparency, good governance and anti-corruption are the
Millennium Challenge Account and the African Growth and Opportunity
Act. We also pursue these objectives actively in the Summit of the
Americas, Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation, and the UNDP/OECD-led
Middle East and North Africa good governance initiative. All of these
programs emphasize transparency, accountability and good governance.
The Millennium Challenge Account (MCA), funded initially at $1
billion for fiscal year 2004, targets U.S. assistance at countries that
govern justly, invest in their people, and encourage economic freedom.
It recognizes that development must primarily come from within
countries rather than from outside. The Millennium Challenge
Corporation (MCC) uses independent indicators that address rule of law,
control of corruption, and other governance criteria to select
countries eligible for MCA assistance. Countries that fail to pass the
corruption indicator, compiled by the World Bank Institute, are
presumed not to qualify. Countries ultimately selected for MCA
participation will enter into a compact with the MCC that requires
effective, accountable, and transparent use of U.S. assistance.
The African Growth and Opportunity Act (AGOA) provides significant
benefits to countries selected for participation, including improved
access to U.S. credit and technical expertise and liberal access to the
U.S. market. As with the MCA, rule of law and efforts to combat
corruption are among AGOA's eligibility criteria.
The G-8 initiative on Fighting Corruption and Improving
Transparency provides a particularly good avenue for G-8 governments to
build partnerships with developing countries to increase transparency
and thereby use public resources wisely. Efforts will focus on
transparency in public budgets, including revenues and expenditures,
government procurement, the letting of public concessions and the
granting of licenses. Partner governments will conclude voluntary
compacts with G-8 governments, specifying the concrete steps they will
take to bring greater transparency and accountability to managing
public resources. Special emphasis will be given to cooperating with
countries rich in oil and mineral resources. For these countries the
compacts will pay particular attention to transparency of revenue flows
and payments in these sectors. For their part, G-8 countries will
support partner countries by providing bilateral technical assistance
and political support.
At Sea Island, Nigeria, our fifth largest oil supplier, was one of
four pilot countries to conclude such a compact, demonstrating its full
ownership of an aggressive program of reform that will lead to greater
transparency and accountability. The governments of Peru, Nicaragua,
and Georgia concluded similar agreements with the G-8 governments at
Sea Island. We hope that more countries will follow the leadership and
commitment of the four pilots, and that they will provide models and a
demonstration effect for countries that follow.
Question. Are you confident that adequate procedures are in place
to prevent the diversion or misuse of revenues from Iraqi oil
production?
Answer. United Nations Security Council resolution 1483 (2003)
established that Iraq's oil export revenues would be deposited in a
special fund, the Development Fund for Iraq (DFI.) Until the transfer
of Sovereignty, the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq (CPA) had
signature authority over DFI. An international body called the
International Advisory and Monitoring Board (IAMB) was established to
act as an external audit committee for the regular audits of the DFI.
Under U.N. Security Counsel resolution 1546 (2004), which provided for
United Nations recognition of the Iraqi Interim Government (IIG), full
signature authority over the DFI transferred to the IIG. The resolution
also continues the role of the IAMB to ensure that proper audits of the
DFI continue to be carried out, which the USG fully supports. The CPA
also reconstituted the Board of Supreme Audit and established
Inspectors General for Iraqi ministries, which remain in operation
under the interim government.
Question. I am concerned about the way the Leahy human rights law
conditioning U.S. assistance to units of foreign security forces (sic).
I would appreciate your answers to the following questions:
What instructions has the Department of State sent to embassies for
establishing a database of alleged human rights violators?
What instructions do embassies have in place to gather information
on alleged violators and do their sources include non-governmental
organizations?
Are embassies vetting individuals and units before they receive
security training and what criteria are they using to determine whether
to provide training?
What is the status of the Department of State database housed in
the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor? Does the database
track information on alleged human rights violators, requests for
training, and instances of denials of training?
Answer. Department guidance to posts, issued most recently in
February 2003, updated Leahy Amendment guidance and again instructed
all posts to keep track of allegations of gross violations of human
rights involving any unit of the security forces, regardless of whether
that unit is currently receiving training or assistance or regardless
of the passage of time.
Posts have clearly been instructed that any time throughout the
year that they become aware of any information regarding incidents
which reasonably could be deemed to be credible information of a gross
violation of human rights by any unit of the host nation's security
forces receiving or proposed to receive FOAA-funded assistance or
involved in DOD-funded training regardless of the passage of time,
posts should so inform the Department by cable. Posts are instructed to
report information regardless of the source, including, but not limited
to reporting by State, DOD, DAOs/SAOs, NGOs, and the media. To the
extent practicable, posts are asked to identify the unit that has
allegedly committed the violation of human rights and include post's
view as to whether the violation of human rights rises to the level of
being a gross violation and whether it believes the information is
credible.
Both embassies and the Department are vetting units proposed for
training and/or assistance before such training or assistance is
received. The Department is cognizant of the Senate report accompanying
the fiscal year 2002 FOAA, which stated that the term ``unit'' should
be ``construed as the smallest operational group in the field that has
been implicated in the reported violation.''
The test database in the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and
Labor (DRL) currently includes the names of approximately 100
individuals and units about which we have serious human rights
concerns. The names are drawn from post, NGO and media reports. Many
are drawn from the 2002 and 2003 Country Reports on Human Rights
Practices. Since the database was established for testing the Benetech
Corporation's Martus software in the Department in 2003, DRL has been
working with the Bureaus of Political-Military Affairs, Information
Resource Management and Administration to develop and test a
technology-based solution with security and encryption packages that
could allow Martus to be available to most posts and Department
officers. At this time, the test database does not track requests for
training and instances of denials of training.
Question. I am very concerned about the deepening crisis in Darfur
in Western Sudan, a situation that both President Bush and U.N.
Secretary General Kofi Annan have condemned and expressed alarm about.
Today's Washington Post quotes the Secretary General saying there is a
risk of ``genocide'' there and that U.N. troops may be needed.
Would the Administration support a U.N. monitoring force?
Would you support increasing the size and deploying part of the
Civilian Protection and Monitoring Team, currently in Sudan, to the
Darfur region to try to deter human rights violations?
Has the Administration called upon the leadership of the African
Union to declare Darfur an emergency, condemn the human rights abuses,
and called on the Sudanese government to facilitate and support these
desperately needed initiatives?
Answer. The Administration supports a United Nations Peace Keeping
Operation (UNPKO) in Sudan. We have been studying how a UNPKO might
operate in Sudan. We expect that there will be a monitoring mission
mandated under Chapter VI to help monitor the peace. We have been
talking with our Troika partners (the U.K. and Norway) and the United
Nations about a mission and look forward to receiving a report from the
Secretary General. We would not expect a UNPKO to be created until
after the signing of the comprehensive agreement which would include
further details on monitoring and security arrangements, although we
will continue planning for such a mission.
We have agreed to support the Darfur Ceasefire Commission with
logistical assets, and CPMT assets will be made available to the
Commission in the short term to get things going. Due, however, to the
complexities surrounding the situation in Darfur, we agreed with the
African Union and the parties that it would be best to have an
independent international monitoring team operating in Darfur. The
ceasefire monitoring team will monitor the ceasefire within the
provisions of the Ceasefire Agreement and when necessary investigate
alleged violations of the Agreement.
The African Union (AU) has taken a very active role in responding
to the crisis in Darfur. In particular, with U.S. encouragement, the AU
took the lead on establishing the Ceasefire Commission designed to
plan, verify and ensure the implementation of the rules and provisions
of the Darfur ceasefire accord signed on April 8 in N'djamena.
Question. The Bush administration has recognized the role that
family planning plays in reducing abortions. The President himself has
said: ``one of the best ways to prevent abortion is by providing
quality voluntary family planning services.'' Yet funding for U.S.
family planning has declined since 1995 and remains below the 1995
level. How do you reconcile the Administration's claim of support for
family planning with these budget cuts?
Please provide any information available to the Administration that
the Mexico City Policy has reduced the number of abortions, either in a
particular country, or worldwide.
The State Department recently provided me with a list of activities
deemed coercive which it says the Chinese Government must eliminate in
the countries where UNFPA provides support, in order for UNFPA to
receive U.S. funding. This, however, represents a misreading of U.S.
law. The Kemp-Kasten amendment does not impose any requirements on
China or any other government. Rather, it imposes restrictions on any
(organization) or ``program'' that supports or participates in the
management of coercive activities. Is it the Administration's position
that no matter what form of assistance UNFPA provides in these Chinese
countries, unless China eliminates these coercive activities UNFPA is
ineligible to receive U.S. funding? In other words, if UNFPA were to
only provide information (as opposed to any other form of assistance)
to Chinese family planning workers about voluntary family planning
services, it would still be ineligible to receive U.S. funding until
China eliminates each of the activities deemed coercive?
Answer. Funding for Family Planning.--President Bush has sustained
funding for family planning assistance at levels between $425 and $446
million per year, compared to $372-$385 million per year during the
four years preceding the President's inauguration. The President is
committed to maintaining these levels because he believes that one of
the best ways to prevent abortion is by providing quality voluntary
family planning services.
Mexico City Policy.--President Bush restored the Mexico City Policy
in 2001 to clearly separate U.S. Government support for family planning
assistance from abortion-related activities. The President's directive
of August 29, 2003 extended the Mexico City Policy to cover all
Department of State funding to foreign non-governmental organizations
for family planning assistance.
There are many foreign NGOs through which USAID and the Department
of State can provide family planning information and services to people
in developing countries. The President determined that assistance for
family planning will be provided only to those foreign NGO recipients
and sub-recipients whose family planning programs are consistent with
the values and principles the United States wants to promote as part of
its foreign policy.
Funding for UNFPA.--Per your request, the Department recently
provided you a list for illustrative purposes of elements of a
coercion-free environment with respect to family planning in China.
While, as you correctly point out, the Kemp-Kasten Amendment does not
impose any requirements on China or any other government, it has been
the consistent policy of the Bush Administration to urge the Chinese
government to remove coercive practices from its family planning
programs.
As you note, the Kemp-Kasten Amendment is relevant to all
organizations or programs that receive U.S. funds under the Foreign
Operations Appropriations Act. In light of Kemp-Kasten, and China's
regime of severe penalties on women who have births outside those
allowed under China's national and local birth planning laws, Secretary
Powell determined on July 21, 2002, that China's coercive law and
practices amounted to ``a program of coercive abortion,'' that UNFPA's
funding in China amounted to ``support for or participation in the
management of'' China's program, and that, therefore, it was not
permissible to continue funding for UNFPA at that time. In notifying
Congress of his decision, the Secretary pointed out, ``Regardless of
the modest size of UNFPA's budget in China or any benefits its programs
provide, UNFPA's support of, and involvement in, China's population-
planning activities allows the Chinese government to implement more
effectively its program of coercive abortion.''
The Department has been in consultations with China since 2002, but
China has not eliminated its coercive practices. The Department has
also discussed with UNFPA its Fifth Country Programme in China and has
suggested various proposals that would permit the United States to fund
UNFPA consistent with Kemp-Kasten. We continue to consult with the
Chinese government and with UNFPA. The Department is currently
reviewing the status of China's family planning program and UNFPA's
funding in China with the view to determining whether funding for UNFPA
is permissible in fiscal year 2004 in light of Kemp-Kasten.
millennium challenge corporation
Question. As Chairman of the Board of the Millennium Challenge
Corporation, how much of the $2.5 billion in the President's budget
request for the Millennium Challenge Account (MCA) do you anticipate
obligating in fiscal year 2005? Of the $1 billion Congress appropriated
in fiscal year 2004, how much do you anticipate obligating this year?
Answer. This question has been sent to MCC for response.
The Committee notes that no response was received.
Question. I also want to thank you for agreeing to provide $2.5
million for programs to protect intellectual property rights overseas.
This is an important, bipartisan initiative that is widely supported
here in Congress. I am not going to micro-manage the process or favor
one group over another for receiving this money--that is an issue for
your Department to determine. However, I am wondering if you could get
back to me, for the record, with more details on INL's plans for this
$2.5 million.
Answer. The State Department shares Congress's strong commitment to
protecting the intellectual property of U.S. artists, inventors and
industries from foreign counterfeiters and pirates. We view the State
Department's role in this effort as crucial to our country's economic
growth and to the well-being of our citizens.
In response to the fiscal year 2004 budget report language
regarding the allocation of $2.5 million in crime funds for anti-piracy
programs, the State Department initiated a process to seek new training
and technical assistance proposals from various United States
government agencies and our overseas missions, with input from
industry. We received over 90 proposals covering 46 countries,
reflecting the growing demand for training and technical assistance
from our foreign law enforcement partners.
These are largely proposals for government-to-government training
and technical assistance programs focused on building legal regimes and
intellectual property law enforcement capacity. The proposals range
from educating foreign judges and prosecutors on international IP
standards, to hands-on border enforcement and forensics training for
foreign customs officials.
The State Department is now completing its review of these
proposals and will soon begin consulting interested parties, including
the Appropriations Committees, on its recommendations. Our goal is to
begin obligating the funds for these programs during the summer of
2004.
Question. As you know, I have been urging the Administration to
rejoin the International Coffee Organization (ICO). While the ICO will
not solve the international coffee crisis, which has undermined U.S.
assistance and counter-narcotics efforts around the world, it could be
a useful instrument to help forge a multilateral consensus on how to
address this crisis.
What is the status of the U.S. membership in the ICO? And, where is
the Administration in terms of formulating a comprehensive strategy to
address the coffee crisis, as urged by the Congress in resolutions
passed at the conclusion of the 106th Congress?
Answer. While we all understand our membership in the ICO will not
solve the coffee crisis, we view the ICO as a potentially important
tool in bringing concerned parties together. We hope we will soon meet
the conditions under which the United States might rejoin.
A joint State-USTR delegation is attending meetings of the ICO in
London May 14-21, where we anticipate the ICO will take positive steps
to resolve our concerns on Resolution 407 and satisfactorily address
legal and regulatory concerns before we can accede to the 2001
International Coffee Agreement. We will also seek to address
institutional issues such as a voting structure that currently favors
the EU. After these meetings, Under Secretary of State Larson will meet
for a second time with members of U.S. Industry regarding their
programs. In anticipation of needing to meet an obligation for dues to
the ICO, the State Department will continue to work closely with OMB
and the appropriate congressional committees. We expect to be able to
make a final decision on membership in the coming months, and before
the next ICO meetings in September.
Although coffee prices have seen a significant rebound in the last
year, we have made our review of membership in the ICO the focal point
of our activity related to the coffee crisis. However, we see the ICO
primarily as a tool in implementing our broader efforts. Should we join
the ICO, we will do so with a positive agenda to improve opportunities
for producers and enhance the choices available to consumers.
Recognizing that the coffee crisis has a variety of causes and
differing effects, the Administration's programs are generally focused
on the unique needs of individual countries or regions.
USAID is providing resources and coordinating initiatives to
address the worldwide humanitarian crisis caused by low coffee prices.
Currently, USAID supports coffee activities in over 25 countries in
Latin America, Africa, and Asia. These programs work to promote small-
and medium-holder coffee systems compete in the international market.
USAID is using a two-pronged approach. First, where potential exists
for coffee farmers to effectively compete for premium prices in a
differentiated market, USAID is working to improve local capacity to
produce quality coffee that the market demands and to promote effective
marketing thereby increasing the price farmers earn for their product.
Second, USAID programs assist farmers that cannot compete within the
coffee sector to diversify their activities and identify other sources
of income.
Question. Can you give me a status report on the implementation of
FIA, especially with respect to the role of DRL in assigning officers
to human rights positions?
Answer. Starting with the Summer 2004 Foreign Service assignment
cycle, which began in October 2003 and covers assignments for positions
coming open between May and October 2004, DRL developed a list of
priority positions on which it wanted to concentrate during this first
stage of the development of this procedure. The list of priority
positions to be filled during the Summer 2004 cycle was given to the
regional bureaus concerned.
DRL's Executive Office reviews all bidders on these positions and
provides the Assistant Secretary with their names and pertinent
information on their assignment history and experience. In addition DRL
actively recruits and encourages eligible bidders who are well and
favorably known to the bureau to bid on human rights reporting
positions overseas, including senior positions. Using this information
and other details available to DRL, the Assistant Secretary determines
our preferred candidates. Those names are then given to the regional
bureaus that bring the preferred candidates to panel for assignment.
Thus far, no regional bureau has disagreed with a DRL recommendation.
In any case, no assignment will be finalized without the approval of
DRL's Executive Office. We anticipate expanding formal recommendations
in the next cycle to include more senior positions that have
responsibility for human rights.
The excellent cooperation between DRL and the regional bureaus
exhibited during the initial 2004 assignment cycle suggests that the
objective of the legislation will be clearly and effectively met and
the assignment of officers to human rights reporting positions in the
manner envisioned by the FIA will become a routine aspect of the
assignments process.
Question. The situation in Indonesia continues to be very
discouraging. Recently, the Indonesian Supreme Court cut by half the
jail sentence of a Muslim cleric who had been convicted for his
involvement in a Southeast Asian terrorist network linked to al Qaeda.
In the province of Aceh there are reports of atrocities by the
Indonesian military and police.
It has been almost two years since the killings of two Americans
and one Indonesian near the Freeport gold mine in Papua in August 2002,
and we are still waiting for the results of the investigation.
There does not seem to be any progress in bringing to justice those
responsible for the killings and destruction in East Timor after the
1999 referendum there.
A. Indonesia is an important country and we have important
interests in that part of the world. But President Megawati and the
military hierarchy don't seem to be listening to us when it comes to
human rights. Or am I missing something?
Answer. As the world's most populous Muslim country, Indonesia
takes on global significance. Indonesia is an example that Islam and
democracy are compatible. Most political and economic trend lines for
Indonesia are heading in a positive direction, even if they start from
a low base. Indonesia is becoming ever more democratic--it will hold
its first-ever direct presidential election this year.
However, we remain concerned about Government's poor human rights
record, particularly in Aceh where martial law is currently imposed.
The need for accountability for human rights abuses committed by the
Indonesian military and pro-Indonesia militias in East Timor in 1999
cannot be ignored. We have repeatedly urged the Indonesian government
to fulfill its commitment and pursue its internal investigation in a
vigorous, expeditious and credible fashion. Together with the United
Nations and concerned member states, the United States supports efforts
such as those of the Serious Crimes Unit--a Timorese Prosecutor's
office funded by U.N. peacekeeping contributions--to ensure justice for
past human rights abuses in East Timor. We continue to consult with
partners on options to ensure a credible level of justice for past
human rights abuses in East Timor.
Question. B. If the investigation produces enough evidence to bring
charges against those responsible for this crime, will you insist that
they be prosecuted and appropriately punished, not just let off with a
slap on the wrist the way it always seems to happen in Indonesia?
Answer. The United States has no higher priority in its dealings
with the Government of Indonesia than seeking justice in the murder of
American citizens in Papua. We have told the Government of Indonesia,
at the highest levels, that we expect a full and impartial
investigation, and that failure on this front would have negative
consequences for our overall bilateral relationship. The Indonesian
government, at the highest levels, has stated its commitment to a
complete and transparent investigation into the killings. We expect the
Indonesian Government to fulfill that commitment.
Question. C. Please provide a detailed accounting of State
Department counter-terrorism assistance--training, equipment, and any
other assistance--provided to Indonesian security forces, including the
police, during fiscal year 2002, fiscal year 2003, and the current
fiscal year, as well as any such assistance proposed for fiscal year
2005, and which entities within Indonesia will be the recipients for
this assistance.
Answer. The State Department provides capacity building assistance
to the Indonesian National Police's (POLRI) counterterrorism unit--
``Special Detachment 88.'' Our counterterrorism (CT) assistance totaled
$8 million in fiscal year 2002 and $4 million in fiscal year 2003. We
have requested $4 million for fiscal year 2004 and $6.5 million for
fiscal year 2005. This funding will support training of three
Counterterrorism Investigation (INV) teams (90 officers total) by ATA/
FBI. As part of this training, we supply certain investigative
equipment to the teams. The first team of CT investigators (30)
graduated July 18, 2003, and the graduates were immediately assigned to
investigate the Parliament bombing and the August 5, 2003, Marriott
Hotel Bombing.
We will train three Explosives Incidents Countermeasures (EIC)
teams (45 officers total). The first EIC team (15 officers) began
training 25 August 2003. As part of this training, we supply the teams
with certain tactical equipment. We will also train six Crisis Response
(CRT) Teams (144 officers total). The first CRT team (24 officers)
began training September 1, 2003. We provide certain tactical (SWAT)
equipment and vehicles. Our assistance will support two CRT Train-the-
Trainer (CRT-TTT) classes (24-36 officers) in fiscal year 2004-2005 to
develop trainers to sustain and expand the CT Task Force.
In addition to counterterrorism assistance, we provide anti-
terrorism assistance (``regular'' ATA). In fiscal year 2001, we
provided $1,260,779 for courses in Hostage Negotiation Management,
Vital Installation Security, Explosive Incident Countermeasures, Post
Blast Investigation, and Terrorist Crime Scene Investigation. In fiscal
year 2002, we provided $865,955 for courses in Critical Incident
Management, Hostage Negotiation Management, and Mail Security. We
provided $778,712 in 2003 for courses in Senior Crisis Management, WMD
Awareness Seminar, and Explosive Incident Countermeasures.
The State Department, in conjunction with the Department of
Justice, is assembling a package of equipment and training to the
Attorney General's new CT and Transnational Crime Task Force to handle
all terror trials. This assistance package will be approximately
$750,000 and is anticipated to begin in Spring, 2004.
Question. What specific procedures will be taken to ensure that
this assistance will not be used in a manner that violates human
rights?
Answer. Training for the Indonesian military is restricted to non-
lethal programs, and covers topics designed to promote the
establishment of a more professional military, such as national
security decision-making, defense restructuring, civil-military
relations, military justice, and peacekeeping operations, not to
mention English language training. Training for the police is either
specifically focused on appropriate use of force, human rights and
democratic policing (ICITAP), or in the case of anti-terrorism
assistance (ATA), includes a specific module on human rights.
All refresher and advanced training provided by ATA also includes
specific modules to ensure that graduates remain cognizant of their
human rights responsibilities.
Question. Please describe in detail the process by which the
Administration ensures that members of the Indonesian military and
police slated to receive U.S. training or other assistance have not
previously engaged in human rights abuses.
Answer. The Embassy section or agencies that proposes a candidate
for training requests biographic information from the candidate. The
nominating section vets the candidate and/or unit, drawing from its
files. If the candidate passes the initial screening, the candidate's
name is submitted to other Embassy sections and agencies for screening.
If at any point in the process, any doubt or hint of past human
rights violations arise, the Embassy rejects the candidate. In a few
cases, the Embassy may recommend that a further investigation is
needed. If so, a more thorough screening continues and the Embassy
forwards the case to Washington for decision.
Question. How are proposed participants vetted? Who conducts the
vetting? What data banks and other sources of information are used for
vetting?
Answer. The Embassy Defense Attache's Office, Office of Defense
Cooperation, Regional Security Office, Consular Section, Political
Section, and other agencies all vet proposed candidates. They draw on
their agencies' national-level databases and records, as well as files
held at post. Questionable candidates are referred to the Defense
Intelligence Agency for a more thorough search of the National
Intelligence Database.
Question. Does the vetting process include review of information
available to United States and Indonesian human rights organizations?
Answer. Yes, when those files are available on line or when the
Embassy Political Section has reason to believe that derogatory
information exists about a specific individual. Again, in cases where
credible derogatory information exists the Embassy rejects the proposed
candidate. If any questions arise in the case of police candidates, the
name is submitted for assessment to Indonesian Police Watch, an NGO
that monitors Indonesian police activities.
Question. Does the vetting include review of relevant records
available to other governments with which the U.S. Government has a
close working relationship (e.g., the Jakarta Embassies of Australia,
the United Kingdom, Canada)?
Answer. Yes, certain U.S. Government databases have links to the
records maintained by key allies. In some cases, Embassy officers
consult allied embassies with regard to the background and reputation
of candidates.
Question. Will the Administration insist on transparent and
credible prosecutions of those responsible for the killing and wounding
of United States and Indonesian civilians in Timika, August 31, 2002,
prior to the provision of IMET assistance to the Indonesian military?
If Indonesia fails to bring the killers to justice, what steps is the
Administration prepared to take?
Answer. We have repeatedly made clear to senior Indonesian
Government officials, in meetings both in Indonesia and Washington,
that we expect a full and impartial investigation of this crime, and
that failure to conduct such an investigation would have a negative
impact on bilateral relations. Our assistance to the Indonesian
military is currently limited to E-IMET, and future provision of IMET
would take into account the results of the investigation of the Papua
murders. We will reexamine all aspects of our bilateral relationship
should there be no credible investigation and appropriate follow
through on the results of the investigation.
Question. Has Indonesia signed an Article 98 Agreement? If not, has
Indonesia been the recipient of a presidential waiver on national
security grounds?
Answer. Indonesia has not signed an Article 98 agreement to date.
Indonesia does not require a waiver under the American Servicemembers
Protection Act (ASPA) as it is not a party to the Rome Statute of the
International Criminal Court.
Question. Recent media reports on the use of funds from the U.N.-
Iraq Oil for Food Agreement to procure support from prominent world
political leaders included the names of senior Indonesian government
figures, including President Megawati and DPR (House of
Representatives) Speaker Amien Rais. What, if anything, has the
Administration done to investigate these charges? What would be the
consequences for U.S. policy should the substance of these media
reports be validated?
Answer. The Indonesian press has reported the claims of various
international media outlets that President Megawati Soekarnoputri and
People's Consultative Assembly Chairman Amien Rais received valuable
oil contracts from the former Saddam Hussein regime. In response,
several political figures close to Megawati and Amien issued strong
public denials that the two figures received benefits from the Iraqi
Government. Embassy Jakarta reports that other Indonesian sources have
privately confirmed these public denials.
President Megawati's opposition to the war in Iraq was consistent
with domestic political pressures she faced and established trends in
Indonesian diplomacy.
The United States strongly supports the U.N.'s independent Volcker
commission charged with investigating allegations of corruption under
the Oil for Food (OFF) program, including allegations that many
prominent international figures took bribes. In addition, the Iraqis
have insisted upon their own investigation.
CPA Administrator Bremer has directed the Iraqi Board of Supreme
Audit, which functions much like our General Accounting Office, to
undertake the investigation. It is working cooperatively with the
Volcker commission to investigate OFF abuses and bring the facts to
light. CPA is cooperating closely with both of these efforts.
Question. What has the Administration done in the past six months
to bring an end to the bloodshed in Aceh and to restore the December
2002 cease fire that the United States played a critical role in
arranging?
Answer. U.S. officials continue to press Indonesian authorities to
seek a negotiated settlement to the conflict in Aceh. The Ambassador
and other U.S. officials have done so privately at the highest levels
of the Indonesian Government, and the Embassy did so publicly,
including through issuance of a statement criticizing the decision to
extend martial law in November 2003. Through our USAID mission in
Indonesia, we support NGOs working on human rights in Aceh, along with
a newsletter and website that report on events in Aceh, critical
elements given the limited press access to the province.
Embassy officials have visited Aceh on numerous occasions to meet
with civilian and military officials as well as civil society figures.
Embassy officials monitored legislative elections in the province,
helping to ensure a fair vote. In meetings with Indonesian officials in
Aceh and Jakarta, Embassy officers have stressed our belief that the
conflict is not amenable to a military solution, and our belief that
special autonomy represents the best chance for a long-term solution.
We have also reiterated our willingness to provide economic assistance
for reconstruction in Aceh should another cease fire take place, as
well as our willingness to facilitate such a cease fire, if requested.
The United States continues to coordinate its actions closely with
Japan, the EU, and the World Bank.
Question. In a recent edition of The Wall Street Journal there was
a mention that the Administration is going to pledge $400 million to
Cyprus, if a peace agreement between the Greek and Turkish Cypriots is
reached. Where is this money going to come from, existing funds, a
budget amendment, or supplemental request?
Answer. The pledge will not go forward in view of the April 24
rejection of the unification plan by Greek Cypriot voters.
Question. I can think of a number of countries, who are not going
to become members of the European Union, where $400 million is
desperately needed--including several in Latin America, Africa, and
Asia. How is this amount of funding for Cyprus justified in light of
pressing needs in a number of places that are desperately poor and have
closer ties with the United States, such as Haiti, The Philippines, and
Liberia?
Answer. The European Union has decided to make available 259
million Euros to northern Cyprus, for the purpose of ending the
isolation of the Turkish Cypriots. In light of the efforts of the
European Union, we are reviewing our policy towards the Turkish
Cypriots. Our efforts in Cyprus aim to resolve a long-standing obstacle
to peace and stability at the intersection of two regions critical to
U.S. national interests and security. Proposals to fund support for
Cyprus reunification come at a time of significant increases in the
fiscal year 2004 budget and fiscal year 2005 request for such
undertakings as the Millennium Challenge Corporation and the
President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief.
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Questions Submitted by Senator Barbara A. Mikulski
Question. The United States took great pains to ensure appropriate
ethnic and geographical representation in Iraq's interim decision-
making bodies. Why was the same attention not given to gender
representation, even when women compose a majority of the population?
Answer. We recognize that the women of Iraq have a critical role to
play in the revival of their country and we strongly support their
efforts. Women play a key role both at the national and provincial
level--in the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC) and the governorate and
local councils. The IGC has 25 members, including three women. We are
making every effort to ensure women are represented at every level of
government and, that they continue to be a central part of the Iraqi
Interim Government that will take over after the June 30 transition to
sovereignty. The State Department is currently focusing programs on
preparing women for future leadership roles within the IGC. For
example, USAID has focused on women's equality and empowerment through
assistance to local government . . . USAID-funded conferences and
trainings have helped Iraqi women learn about democracy, legal rights
and women's civil society organizations that enable women to advocate
for their own rights.
Question. What is being done now, and what more could be done, to
ensure the full participation of women in the political process after
the hand over of power on June 30?
Answer. President Bush has repeatedly stated that supporting and
promoting respect for women's rights is a U.S. foreign policy
imperative. The CPA and U.S. Government are working closely with the
Iraqi Governing Council (IGC) to ensure that women will be well
represented in the Iraqi Interim Government. The Law of Administration
for the State of Iraq for the Transitional Period, also known as the
Transitional Administrative Law (TAL) makes clear that ``the electoral
law shall aim to achieve the goal of having women constitute no less
than one-quarter of the members of the National Assembly . . .'' The
United States is committed to doing all it can to ensure the full and
fair representation of women and all Iraqis, in the administration of
Iraq now and in the future.
Question. What is the State Department doing to help Iraqi women
overcome these hurdles? For example, do programs to support the
development of political parties advocate and foster the integration of
women in political party structures and decision-making? Are there
programs to train Iraqi women to effectively compete in the electoral
process?
Answer. The United States has sponsored, and will continue to
sponsor, a wide range of initiatives to reach out to Iraqi women, from
homemakers to professionals and politicians, to ensure their rights and
opportunities to fully participate in Iraqi civil society.
--Earlier this year, Under Secretary Dobriansky hosted a roundtable
with Iraqi women to elicit their ideas for ensuring the full
integration of women in the reconstruction process. As a result
of these discussions, the Office of International Women's
Issues provided a list of qualified women inside and outside
Iraq who are available to work with the Coalition Provisional
Authority on reconstruction issues.
--The State Department helped send a delegation of Iraqi women to the
June 2003 Global Summit of Women (GSW) conference in Morocco.
Forty women ministers and over 700 delegates from approximately
80 countries met to discuss women's economic development and
business. It was the first GSW meeting held in the Arab world,
and provided Iraqi women with the opportunity to network with
their counterparts in the region.
--The Department of State's Educational and Cultural Affairs Bureau
is organizing a series of International Visitor (IV) Programs
on business opportunities for professional Iraqi women. It is
also organizing interactive Digitized Video Conference programs
between members of Iraqi women's NGOs and their counterparts in
the United States.
Since April 1, 2003, USAID has focused on women's equality and
empowerment in Iraq, through assistance to local government and civil
society organizations, directly and immediately touching the lives of
Iraqi women. USAID-funded conferences and training have helped Iraqi
women learn about democracy, human rights, women's legal rights, and
women's civil society organizations that enable women to advocate for
their needs at both the local and national government levels. The CPA
and USAID, for example, are working with local women's groups to
establish nine centers for women in Baghdad and five in Southern Iraq
to provide educational programs, job skills training, rights awareness
seminars, and mentoring programs. Additionally, in early 2003, the
United States committed approximately $2.5 billion in humanitarian and
reconstruction aid to Iraq. In November 2003, Congress approved
President Bush's request for an additional $18.7 billion over the
coming 18 months. Some of these funds will be used to restore Iraq's
infrastructure, while other portions are allotted to democracy
building, economic development, employment, medical, and educational
needs, with full attention to the equal participation of women.
The leadership experiences gained through involvement in these
various activities, including in-country councils, conferences,
external visits, and inter-organizational collaboration are helping
prepare Iraqi women for professional and political careers. By
supporting these types of initiatives the United States is working to
expand the pool of trained Iraqi women, a vital task given the
centrality of Iraqi women to the future prosperity and stability of
Iraq.
Question. The Iraqi Governing Council passed Resolution 137 in a
closed session in December 2003. The resolution sought to impose
sharia--Islamic law--in the new Iraq. Imposing sharia would have
severely rolled back rights that women have enjoyed in Iraq since the
end of the Ottoman Empire. Iraqi women took to the streets protesting
the measure and succeeded in having it revoked. The Transitional
Administrative Law has a bill of rights for all citizens and says that
sharia is one of many sources of law.
How confident are you that the rights of women will be preserved in
Iraq after the transfer of sovereignty?
What is being done now to lay the groundwork for preserving the
rights of women in Iraq?
Answer. The Transitional Administrative Law (TAL) guarantees the
basic rights of all Iraqis, men and women, including freedoms of
worship, expression, and association. The TAL also protects union and
political parties and outlaws discrimination based on gender, class,
and religion. Looking ahead beyond the June 30 transfer of sovereignty,
this Law provides that the electoral system should aim to achieve the
goal of having women constitute not less than 25 percent of the
Transitional National Assembly. In addition, seven women were recently
appointed as Deputy Ministers in the current Iraqi administration.
As for other groundwork, U.S. policy is to ensure that Iraqi women
are fully involved as planners, implementers, and beneficiaries in the
reconstruction of their country. The Administration has worked closely
with Congress to establish programs dedicated to promote equal rights
and economic opportunities for Iraqi women.
On March 8, I announced two more initiatives: First, a $10 million
Iraqi Women's Democracy Initiative to promote women's political
participation. A comprehensive and open RFP for this initiative has
been posted, with proposals due by June 1. We expect to select the
winning entries and inaugurate actual projects on the ground shortly
thereafter. The second initiative is a United States-Iraq Women's
Network. This is a public-private partnership between Americans and
Iraqis to mobilize expertise and resources for Iraqi women. At the same
time, USAID is implementing civic, economic, and political training
programs for Iraqi women totaling $17 million.
There is also significant international support for women's
initiatives in Iraq. The British government, through DFID, supports
women's programs. The recent Iraq Reconstruction Conference in Europe
devoted a special panel to the subject of women. Finally, the
international NGO community is actively engaged in supporting Iraqi
women's programs as well.
Question. What can we count on you to do to ensure that our
assistance funds support the hard work of indigenous Afghan women's
NGOs and help build Afghanistan's civil society?
Answer. In fiscal year 2004, $60 million was specifically earmarked
by Congress to support women and girls in Afghanistan, and we have
exceeded that requirement. USG programs that benefit women are a mix of
components within existing programs ($65,469,000) and new programs
($15,000,000) that focuses on advancing the participation and voice of
Afghan women in local governance, and their access to services. The
U.S. Agency for International Development, Department of State, and
many other government and non-government entities are engaged in
funding and implementing projects.
afghanistan--release of 2004 supplemental funds for afghan women
Question. Congress provided substantial fiscal year 2004
supplemental appropriations for aid to Afghanistan. $60 million was
directed to programs to aid Afghan women. How will the $60 million be
allocated, and when will it be released?
Answer. In fiscal year 2004, while Congress earmarked $60 million
for Afghan women and their development, the United States Agency for
International Development (USAID) has been spending $71.8 million on
advancing the status of women in Afghanistan. These funds include the
continuation of projects including education ($29 million), healthcare
($10.3 million), private-sector integration ($1.5 million), political
development by supporting the Bonn Process ($15 million) and government
support to the Afghanistan Ministry of Women's Affairs ($1 million).
Through these initiatives, USAID is working to ensure that women are
active participants in the private and public sectors of Afghan life.
The supplemental funds also went to the Women's Empowerment Program
($15 million), which helps women participate in community activities
and local governance. This program includes the Women's Private Sector
Initiative, which strives to provide women with enterprise-skills
training and other tools to strengthen the environment for women's
involvement in the private sector.
The Empowerment Program also includes the Women's Teacher Training
Institute and Afghan Literacy Initiative, which target young girls who
do not have formal access to school with literacy-development programs.
Question. Outwardly, there has been progress on women's rights in
Afghanistan, with a women's bill of rights and a set-aside for 25
percent of the lower house of the legislature for women. However, there
has been little improvement in the lives of most Afghans--men, women,
and children--especially those in rural areas.
What is the strategy to reach women and other vulnerable Afghans in
rural areas?
Answer. Much of the $60 million specifically earmarked by Congress
to support women and girls in Afghanistan has gone to those living in
rural areas.
In education, the Afghan Primary Education Program (APEP) has set
aside $20 million of a total $95 million in fiscal year 2004 to provide
accelerated learning for girls, train female teachers, provide
textbooks for girls in both the formal and informal school systems, and
provide vocational training for women. In addition, we are contracting
the reconstruction of a women's dormitory ($8 million) that will house
1,000 women from rural areas and allow them to reside in safe
surroundings while they attend University of Kabul and/or the Education
University.
In healthcare, the Rural Expansion of Afghanistan's Community-based
Healthcare (REACH) program is significantly lowering maternal and child
mortality and morbidity in Afghanistan. Of the $52 million total
funding for REACH in fiscal year 2004, over $10 million is being given
in grants for the delivery of health services by local women-focused
NGOs and to vocational training for women as community healthcare
workers and midwives. The first class of 25 rural-based midwives
graduated from an 18-month long training in April 2004, and by summer
150 trained midwives will be attending to Afghan women and children.
In the private sector, we are providing $3.5 million for private
sector development for women and to secure women's property rights by
helping to educate women about their property rights in Islam and
assisting women in accessing sensitively delivered legal assistance to
use new, more transparent administrative and judicial processes.
To support democracy, civil society, and the elections, $25,000,000
of a total $139,900,000 in fiscal year 2004 funding is being used to
support women's participation in the democratic process. A portion of
these funds was used to provide technical assistance to the
Constitutional Commission and the Constitutional Loya Jirga, including
support for public education campaigns and consultations focused
specifically on ensuring that women's views were incorporated in the
constitutional process. Women participated in all phases of the
drafting process, made up 20 percent of the Loya Jirga Delegates, and
succeeded in passing a new constitution enshrining equal rights for
women. These funds are also being used to ensure the registration and
participation of women in upcoming national elections. We have set
aside $10 million to develop a community empowerment initiative that
ensures women's participation in local governance, builds capacity of
women's community development councils, oversees women's block grants
issued by the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development, and
supports the coordination of multiple activities and services for women
at the community level. The program will also provide small grants to
the councils to develop community-owned centers that provide a venue
for women to participate in governance issues; that provide them with
services such as literacy training, health education, early childhood
development assistance, vocational training and micro credit, and where
they can develop cooperative enterprises. We are also providing $1
million to help fund the Ministry of Women's Affairs and $2.5 million
to fund the new Office of Women's Internal Affairs and Human Rights in
the Afghan Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The United States-Afghan
Women's Council and State Department have fostered women's
participation in the political, social, and economic sectors through
exchanges, mentoring, and specific projects totaling nearly $1 million
for programs in rural-based women's centers, including adult literacy
and vocational training.
Finally, our PRTs are supporting women and girls, with $469,000
spent to renovate women's dormitories at Kandahar University and Kunduz
Teacher's Institute and for the rehabilitation of a women's sponsored
silkworm production factory in Mazar-i-Sharif. We expect other PRT
projects supporting women to be nominated for funding in the future.
Question. What is being done to improve security so aid efforts can
reach more of the population of Afghanistan?
Answer. The presence of Provincial Reconstruction Teams (PRTs)
throughout Afghanistan is intended to provide a secure environment for
NGOs to safely carry out activities. PRTs are a multinational effort.
In addition to the ten United States-led PRTs, the UK, New Zealand, and
Germany (under NATO) are also leading PRTs around the country, and
several other nations have indicated a willingness to lead their own.
PRTs will form the basis for an expanded NATO/ISAF presence in
Afghanistan, particularly critical in the run-up to September 2004
elections.
Question. On March 8, 2004--International Women's Day--President
Hamid Karzai was quoted as saying, ``Please, my dear brothers, let your
wives and sisters go to the voter registration process. Later, you can
control who she votes for, but please, let her go.''
What is your strategy to really empower women and have them
participate in society as equal citizens under the law?
Answer. First, we want to get women registered to vote and into
voting booths. Second, we are funding programs to development of civil
society, particularly human rights for women. Here are some details.
The Constitutional Loya Jirga approved a new Constitution in
January 2004. Women were fully engaged in the constitutional process.
Two of the nine members of the Constitutional Drafting Committee, and
seven of the 35 members of the Constitutional Review Commission were
women. Women held almost 20 percent of the 502 seats, or 105 places, in
the Constitutional Loya Jirga.
Women achieved a significant gain with the Constitution's specific
mention of women as citizens, and its provision to set aside 25 percent
of its seats in the lower house and 17 percent in the upper house of
Parliament for women. Afghan women will have the right to vote and run
for office in the elections, which are scheduled to take place in
September 2004.
As of May 20, 2.56 million eligible voters have been registered to
vote. Overall, 807,000 or 31.5 percent of registered voters are female,
with a 45 percent level in the Central Highlands. Separate secure
spaces have been created for women at polling stations and at voting
facilities.
Special efforts are being made to educate using focus group
discussion, community interaction and NGO meetings designed to
encourage village leaders, men and women on the importance of women
voting. Special emphasis has been given to increasing information
targeted at women. Over 3,000 civic education classes have been held
for a total of 70,500. Of that group, approximately 25,000 have been
women. Two Asia Foundation partners are conducting civic education
seminars related to the elections. Through a local Afghan NGO called
Awaz, 200,000 cassette tapes will be distributed in the south,
southeast and east, specifically targeting messages for women,
encouraging them to participate in the process and vote. Approximately
400 traveling theater productions carry similar messages to the
provinces. Many of these performances will feature the role of women in
the elections.
Media use is critically important. Through a Kabul-based media
center, the United States has also funded video documentaries and made-
for-TV features on women in elections, women in politics, and three
``All Women's Radio Stations'' that host political programs to
encourage women to register to vote. The percentage of women
registering to vote in cities such as Mazar-e-Sharif and Herat where
these shows are aired are double the national average. The United
States supports content for Radio and Television Afghanistan (a
national agency) on elections, and specifically provided content to the
Internews/Tanin network on its recent weekly program on Women and
Islam.
In fiscal year 2004, $60 million was specifically earmarked by
Congress to support women and girls in Afghanistan, and we have
exceeded that requirement. U.S. programs that benefit women are a mix
of components within existing programs ($65,469,000) and new programs
($15,000,000) that advance the participation and voice of Afghan women
in governance, and their access to services. We have many projects in
place to ensure the protection and promotion of women's rights. The
United States addressed the needs of women in many of its
reconstruction programs and implemented more than 175 projects to
increase women's political participation, role in civil society,
economic opportunities and education. The United States has allocated
$2.5 million for the construction of Women's Resource Centers in 14
provinces throughout Afghanistan. In Kabul and nearby towns, the United
States supports the establishment of an additional 10 neighborhood-
based Women's Centers. All these Centers will provide educational and
health programs, job skills training and political participation
training to women. Through the United States-Afghan Women's Council,
the United States is providing $1 million for educational training at
the Centers.
In sum, our strategy for Afghanistan includes supporting and
encouraging Afghanistan to evolve into a nation that respects human
rights, possesses strong democratic institutions and an independent
judiciary, and conducts free and fair elections. We encourage full
implementation of the Constitution and establishment of programs that
promote economic and political empowerment.
Question. How are we ensuring that women will be involved fully in
electoral and political processes?
Answer. The United States is providing $15 million to assist in
voter registration, and another $8.86 million to support the electoral
process in Afghanistan through programs that include civic and voter
education, focus group research, training for political parties and
civic activists. Extensive voter education will be required to inform
the population about both the importance of the elections and the
procedures for participating in the elections, which are scheduled for
September 2004. Special programs have targeted women, educating them on
the importance of voting and political participation. Voter
registration is underway, and as of May 20, 2.56 million eligible
voters have been registered to vote. Overall, 807,000 or 31.5 percent
are female, with a 45 percent level in the Central Highlands. Special
efforts are being made to encourage women to register, approaching
village leaders and the men and women themselves through focus group
discussions, community interaction and NGO meetings. The rural nature
and security concerns make registration difficult, so the United States
is funding a program of mobile vans to go directly to voters in their
villages. In Mazar-e-Sharif and Herat, where women have their own radio
programs, women are registering at twice the national average.
To support democracy, civil society, and the elections, $25 million
of a total $139.9 million in fiscal year 2004 funding is being used to
support women's participation in the democratic process. A portion of
these funds were used to provide technical assistance to the
Constitutional Commission and the Constitutional Loya Jirga, including
support for public education campaigns and consultations focused
specifically on ensuring that women's views were incorporated in the
constitutional process. These funds are also being used to ensure the
registration and participation of women in the national elections,
which are scheduled for September 2004. The United States funded a $1.2
million program in political party development and domestic election
monitoring and also funded a countrywide program on civic education,
particularly for women, to promote their acceptance of and familiarity
with democratic norms and civic responsibility in Afghanistan.
The United States also funded a project to promote women's
participation in the political process in central Afghanistan, offering
workshops and discussion groups to rural women and support to potential
female Constitutional Loya Jirga and parliamentary candidates. We have
set aside $10 million to develop a community empowerment initiative
that ensures women's participation in local governance, builds capacity
of women's community development councils, oversees women's block
grants issued by the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development,
and supports the coordination of multiple activities and services for
women at the community level. The program will also provide small
grants to the councils to develop community-owned centers that provide
a venue for women to participate in governance issues, have access to
services such as literacy, health education, early childhood
development, vocational training and micro credit, and where they can
develop cooperative enterprises. We are also providing $1 million to
help fund the Ministry of Women's Affairs and $2.5 million to fund
proposals form the new Office of Women's Internal Affairs and Human
Rights in the Afghan Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
millennium challenge account and core development accounts
Question. Funding for the MCA in fiscal year 2004 was far below the
level needed to meet the President's commitment, and the fiscal year
2005 budget request includes only $2.5 billion for the MCA. Moreover,
core development accounts are being depleted. This year's request is
$56 million below last year's enacted levels.
--How do you justify the reductions in the core development accounts?
--Do you expect to meet the President's commitment of $5 billion in
new funds for the Millennium Challenge Account without further
reductions on other development assistance?
Answer. These questions have been sent to MCC for response.
The Committee notes that no response was received.
Question. Over the past decade, 370 women have been brutally
murdered in a string of unresolved murders in the cities of Juarez and
Chihuahua, Mexico. Over 450 women have been abducted--of those, 30 are
Americans--and over 100 have shown signs of sexual assault, rape,
beating, torture and mutilation. Media reports have tied the killings
to drug running and have implicated state and local police. Mexico's
President, Vicente Fox, has been slow to act on this issue. Recently,
bending to international pressure, he has appointed a federal
commission to prevent and punish violence against women in Ciudad
Juarez and a special prosecutor to coordinate federal and state efforts
to punish assailants, but both efforts lack funding and teeth.
What are you doing to raise the profile of these murders and get
the Mexican Government to take effective action?
Answer. The murders of women in Ciudad Juarez are a matter of great
concern to the Department of State. The Department of State, with the
assistance of the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City and the U.S. Consulate
General in Ciudad Juarez, has closely followed the situation and the
inconclusive efforts of Chihuahua state law enforcement authorities to
resolve these murders. Department of State officials have met with
Mexican human rights organizations to discuss the latter's view that
these cases have been mismanaged by Mexican state and local law
enforcement. Department of State officials have also discussed the
matter with officials of the Mexican Government. I raised the issue
with my Mexican counterpart during the November 12, 2003, United
States-Mexico Binational Commission meeting, reiterating our concern
over this tragic situation.
As you know, President Fox has ordered the Federal Attorney
General's Office (PGR) to assist local authorities in bringing to
justice those responsible for these crimes. In June of last year, units
of the Federal Preventive Police were sent to Ciudad Juarez to
reinforce the local authorities. In August, a joint task force was
created between the PGR and the State Attorney General's office. In
October President Fox appointed a commissioner to coordinate the
Mexican Federal Government's participation in the case, and in January
of this year the PGR named a special prosecutor on the matter.
While we cannot independently verify the figures, we note the
Mexican Government claims that the recent appointments and coordination
efforts appear to have reduced the incidence of murders of women in the
city. The Mexican Government has also advised that, while overall the
investigations are still not advancing as fast as they wish, of 328
cases involving murders of women, 103 convictions have been obtained,
and arrest warrants have been issued in another 27 cases.
We note that Mexico has been open to outside expert evaluation of
the problem and has invited numerous entities, including the United
Nations Office on Drugs and Crime and the Inter-American Commission on
Human Rights Rapporteur on the Rights of Women, to visit Ciudad Juarez
to examine the situation.
Offers of technical assistance and training have been made to
Mexican law enforcement authorities by U.S. law enforcement authorities
and a working group has been formed with the Mexicans to facilitate the
provision of assistance. The U.S. Government funds and coordinates a
broad range of training programs as well as material and technical
assistance to Mexican federal law enforcement agencies to increase
their crime-fighting capacities, including their ability to render
assistance to Mexican state and local law enforcement. We have offered
to tailor technical or other assistance to the PGR or to state and
local police, if desired by the appropriate Mexican authorities, to
help them address the crimes in the Ciudad Juarez area.
Question. What revenues are being generated by Iraqi oil
production? How are these funds being accounted for? What percentage of
Iraq's reconstruction is being paid for from Iraqi oil revenues?
Answer. Iraq's 2004 first quarter oil revenues just surpassed the
$4 billion mark. Since the liberation of Iraq, over $9 billion has been
generated. The current budget projects 2004 revenues of $14.175
billion, but some current projections estimate that it will rise to at
least $14.5 billion.
The Iraqi Oil Ministry accounts for oil revenues with assistance
from the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad. Oil export
revenues, in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution
1483, are deposited directly in the Development Fund for Iraq. This
fund, as well as the export oil sales themselves, are subject to
external audit by an independent public accountant that reports both to
CPA and to the International Advisory and Monitoring Board (IAMB)
endorsed by the resolution. The IAMB includes representatives from the
International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the Arab Fund for Social
and Economic Development and the United Nations.
The United Nations and World Bank needs assessment for Iraq's
reconstruction from 2004 to 2007 totaled $56 billion. CPA currently
projects that oil revenues from 2004 to 2007 will finance $12.1 billion
of capital projects, or just under 22 percent of the total estimated
reconstruction cost of $56 billion.
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Questions Submitted by Senator Richard J. Durbin
Question. Would you support and work for a modification of the
MCC's eligibility criteria to provide a greater focus on women and to
include these additional indicators in the criteria in order to endure
that this half of the world's population is not left to suffer
discrimination and disparate treatment even as their countries move
toward greater development?
Answer. I strongly believe that the participation of women is vital
to the success of a country's long-term development strategy. The MCC
criteria already support this proposition. In the selection of eligible
countries, the Board is required by the legislation establishing the
MCC to, where appropriate, take into account and assess the treatment
of women and girls. Eligibility criteria already require ``political
pluralism, equality and rule of law,'' ``respect for human and civil
rights,'' and ``investments in the people of the country, particularly
women and children.'' The indicators used this past year reflect this
emphasis. Countries that did not provide suffrage or civil rights for
women were unlikely to score well on the indicators regarding political
rights, civil liberties, or voice and vote. Countries that did not
provide adequate education or health care for women did not score well
on indicators of primary education and inoculation rates. To provide a
check on these indicators, the Board was able to consider information
from the State Department Human Rights Report regarding the treatment
of women and girls and to consider both the level and trend of girl's
enrollment rates in primary school.
The eligibility criteria in the MCC's legislation already place a
clear and rightful emphasis on the role of women. No additional
legislative language is needed. I believe the MCC should evaluate its
methodology and indicators each year to make sure it is meeting the
criteria and be open to including new indicators that provide a better
measure of whether a country has, as the statute states, demonstrated a
commitment to ``just and democratic governance, economic freedom, and
investments in the peoples of such country, particularly women and
children.''
basic education funding and the g-8 summit
Question. Mr. Secretary, you and I agree that basic education is
important to our strategic and developmental interests around the
world. You have spoken eloquently on the subject many times, and our
National Security Strategy recognizes the link between poor education
and reduced security. Unfortunately, the Administration's budget
request would cut basic education support by $23 million under
Development Assistance.
Last December, 18 Senators and 63 Members of the House wrote to the
President urging him to use the G-8 Summit this June as a venue to
launch a significant U.S. Initiative on basic education and galvanize
the world community to achieve the goal of education for all by 2015.
Reports suggest the Administration is proposing that the Middle
East be a principal focus of this year's G-8 Summit. I understand that
priority. I do not think it is incompatible with a major initiative to
promote basic education.
--Please explain the proposed funding cut for basic education in the
Development Assistance account in light of our strategic
objectives.
--Please comment on the possibility that the Administration might
make this year's G-8 Summit the ``Basic Education Summit''.
Answer. Education is a priority issue for this Administration. It
is an important long-term investment in sustaining democracies,
improving health, increasing per capita income and conserving the
environment. Economic growth in developing countries requires creating
a skilled workforce. President Bush has helped to give education a
strong profile in the G-8 in recent years, and work is being carried
forward actively both multilaterally and bilaterally. We are working
internationally to support countries' efforts to improve the education
and to get measurable results on enrollment and educational
achievement.
Since the submission of the USAID fiscal year 2005 Congressional
Budget Justification, projections on basic education levels have
changed somewhat for both fiscal year 2004 and fiscal year 2005. While
there is a $22 million reduction in Basic Education funded by
Development Assistance (DA) from fiscal year 2004 to fiscal year 2005
(from $234 million to $212 million), the currently projected total for
basic education from all accounts for both fiscal year 2004 and fiscal
year 2005 is $334 million. The Administration intends to continue to
maintain its strong interests in this area. In fact, the United States
support for basic education from all accounts has more than doubled
from fiscal year 2001 to fiscal year 2004, in recognition of its
importance to giving people the tools to take part in free and
prosperous societies.
female genital cutting
Question. It is my understanding that USAID is developing a
strategy for eliminating female genital cutting around the world. I
would like to call to your attention the work of the group Tostan in
Senegal, which has impressed observers by inspiring the mass
abandonment of female genital cutting in more than 1,200 villages since
1997. This kind of extraordinary progress should be encouraged.
Please provide me with (a) a timetable for the timely completion of
USAID's strategy, (b) an indication of the likely role of multi-
dimensional programs such as Tostan in that strategy, and (c) your
sense of whether it might be possible to begin supporting effective
programs such as Tostan even before the strategy is completed.
Answer. (a) USAID will complete its Female Genital Cutting (FGC)
Abandonment Strategy and implementation plan by early summer.
(b) Multi-dimensional programs such as Tostan currently are
integral to USAID's work. Accordingly, USAID incorporated eradication
of FGC into its development agenda and adopted a policy on FGC in
September 2000. To integrated this policy into programs and strategies,
USAID:
--Supports efforts by indigenous NGOs, women's groups, community
leaders, and faith-based groups to develop eradication
activities that are culturally appropriate and that reach men
and boys as well as women and girls.
--Works in partnership with indigenous groups at the community level,
as well as with global and national policymakers, to reduce
demand by promoting broader education and disseminating
information on the harmful effects of FGC.
--Collaborates with other donors and activists to develop a framework
for research and advocacy and to coordinate efforts, share
lessons learned, and increase public understanding of FGC as a
health-damaging practice and a violation of human rights.
(c) USAID currently funds Tostan projects in Senegal, Guinea,
Burkina Faso, and Mali.
In addition to our work with Tostan, USAID is involved with other,
comparable organizations. For example, in Nigeria, USAID's local
partners include the Women's Lawyers Association and Women's
Journalists Association. These groups work with us in programs
involving community media and traditional media advocacy to change
social norms regarding FGC.
We have conducted an evaluation for Tostan approach. Recently, we
supported the dissemination of the findings and results at a symposium
in Dakar, Senegal attended by national and international
nongovernmental organizations as well as government ministries.
In Mali, we worked with an important women's Islamic group which
reversed a previous stance when they affirmed that female circumcision
is optional and that the practice is not mandatory under Islam.
Question. I would like to have clarification on the
Administration's position on contributions to the Global Fund for
fiscal year 2005. The President's budget provides on $200 million for
the Global Fund in fiscal year 2005. This is less than half of the $547
million Congress provided in 2004 and far less than the $1.2 billion
needed from the United States if we are to meet one-third of the Fund's
projected need for 2005. The Global Fund is a critical partner in the
14 countries that are part of PEPFAR (President's Emergency Plan for
AIDS Relief) and is needed, perhaps even more acutely, in all the other
countries that PEPFAR won't reach. (The Global Fund currently provides
grants in 122 countries.) The Global Fund is also currently the most
important new source of funding to fight TB and malaria globally.
--Why has the Administration proposed such severe cuts to the Global
Fund?
--How will the Global Fund be able to renew existing grant awards
from Rounds 1-3, fund Round 4, and award grants in Rounds 5 and
6 to the many countries that are equally needy yet left out of
the 14 country initiative, if the United States commitment to
the Global Fund is cut by more than half?
--How can we provide leadership to the Fund while providing only $200
million, which is only six percent of its budget and less than
one-third of what is needed to keep existing programs running?
--Will you support funding the Global Fund at a level of $1.2 billion
to meet its 2005 need?
Answer. The President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief made a $200
million per year commitment of pledges for the five-year period of
2004-2008. Our fiscal year 2005 request therefore remains the same as
our request in fiscal year 2004. We were the first donor to make such a
long-term pledge of support to the Global Fund, which together with our
previous donations to the Fund still represents nearly 40 percent of
all pledges and contributions through 2008.
The American people can be extremely proud of our record of support
for the Global Fund. Our support for the Global Fund is an integral
part of the President's Emergency Plan. As you note, we cannot make
every country a focus country, and there are other nations equally
needy. When the United States contributes to a project of the Global
Fund, it means that our dollars are leveraged in these grants by a
factor of two, since the United States thus far has provided one-third
of all Fund monies. So it is in our interests, as well as the interest
of all people struggling against HIV/AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis, to
see to it that the Global Fund is an effective partner in the fight
against these diseases.
The Fund nevertheless is a relatively new organization,
particularly in comparison to the 20 years of bilateral HIV/AIDS
programs carried out by the United States and other bilateral donors.
Like all new organizations, it is quite understandably undergoing some
growing pains. As of April 1, 2004, the Global Fund had disbursed
approximately $280 million since the Global Fund's Board approved its
first round of funding in January 2002. This compares to the first $350
million under the President's Emergency Plan sent to our focus
countries only three weeks after the program first received its
funding.
This is not to criticize the Global Fund for being slow--indeed,
the United States is one of the donors that has been urging the Global
Fund to move carefully to ensure accountability and avoid waste. It
does highlight, however, the potential effectiveness of bilateral
assistance where donors already have an in-country presence.
We need both multilateral and bilateral avenues of assistance;
neither the Global Fund nor bilateral donors can do it all. Other
bilateral donors also need to step up with greater technical assistance
to Global Fund projects, without which those projects will founder.
In addition, the United States believes that in order for funds to
be effectively and efficiently disbursed, Country Coordinating
Mechanisms (CCMs) and Local Fund Agents (LFAs) must be actively engaged
in overseeing the implementation of grant activities. The United States
would like to see in particular, a stronger representation of the
private sector, NGOs and people living with the diseases on CCMs, which
are largely chaired by government ministries. Engaging a broader
representation of various stakeholders will help reduce potential acts
of corruption and will allow for a wider distribution of funds so that
more individuals in need can be served.
The Global Fund has already announced, in advance of the June Board
meeting, that technically approved Round Four proposals will not exceed
the cash already on-hand; so that at least through this Round, no
funding gap exists. And we along with other donors believe that as a
new organization, it may be best for the Global Fund not to press its
current capacity too far, with Round Five not occurring until 2005 and
Round Six in the following year. Its first projects will not come up
for review and possible renewal until August 2004, and we will have a
better sense at that time of its performance record and future needs.
tuberculosis treatment
Question. Will you push to expand overall U.S. funding to fight
tuberculos to our fair share of the global effort--about $350 million--
including our fair share to the Global Fund? (The United States is
currently investing about $175 million in tuberculosis from all sources
including our contribution to the Global Fund.)
Answer. The fight against tuberculosis (TB) is a very high priority
for the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) and
the United States is the largest bilateral donor for international TB.
Over the last several years, our funding commitment to international TB
programs has increased dramatically--from $10 million in fiscal year
1998 to about $84 million in fiscal year 2004. TB is a key area in our
programs to address infectious diseases. We focus on strengthening TB
control at the country level by supporting programs to expand and
strengthen the World Health Organization recommended ``Directly
Observed Treatment Short Course (DOTS)'' strategy in 34 countries,
including activities in 16 of the 22 high-burden TB countries. We also
support research related to new and improved treatment regimens, new
diagnostics and approaches to improve the delivery of TB treatment to
patients co-infected with TB and HIV/AIDS. In the near future, we will
expand our research activities by initiating a new partnership with the
Global Alliance for TB Drug Development. We work in close partnership
with the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in the area of research,
and with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in
supporting DOTS programs throughout the developing world.
The U.S. Government also is the largest bilateral donor to the
Global Fund; it has made almost one-third of the contributions (almost
$1 billion) and more than one-third (almost $2 billion) of the pledges
to date. At its eighth board meeting in June in Geneva, the Global Fund
approved a fourth round of grants. The four rounds of grants will
provide more than $3 billion over two years and more than $8 billion
over five years to almost 130 countries. The two-year funding for the
four rounds includes 13 percent (almost $400 million) for TB grants, 3
percent (almost $100 million) for HIV/TB grants, and 1 percent (more
than $20 million) for integrated (HIV, TB, and malaria) grants.
The resources required to fight TB are considerable. While we have
to continue with our investments, we need to balance increased funding
to TB with other extremely important programs, such as malaria and
child and maternal health. USAID and the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention (CDC) are working actively with the Stop TB Partnership
and other donors to help meet those needs and to identify new resources
to support TB control worldwide.
Question. Will you ensure that the President's AIDS Initiative
makes it a priority to expand access to TB treatment for all HIV
patients with TB and links TB programs to voluntary counseling and
testing for HIV?
Answer. The Office of the U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator is committed
to the appropriate coordination and integration of tuberculosis and
HIV/AIDS services and programs. As you are aware, opportunistic
infections, such as TB and malaria, play a fundamental role in the
overall health of HIV infected individuals. TB is frequently the first
manifestation of HIV/AIDS disease and the reason many people first
present themselves for medical care.
Since both tuberculosis treatment and HIV/AIDS treatment require
longitudinal care and follow-up, successful TB programs may provide
excellent platforms upon which to build capacity for HIV/AIDS
treatment. The Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief will support TB treatment
for those who are HIV-infected and develop HIV treatment capacity in TB
programs. In addition, interventions that increase the number of
persons diagnosed and treated for HIV/AIDS will increase the need for
TB treatment and care services. Therefore, action is required to build
or maintain necessary tuberculosis treatment capacity. For example,
laboratories, clinical staff, community networks, and management
structures used for TB control can be upgraded to accommodate HIV/AIDS
treatment. Finally, because the prevalence of HIV infection is high
among persons with tuberculosis, TB programs will be important sites
for HIV testing in the focus countries as well as ensuring that TB
testing is available in HIV testing, treatment and care sites.
Question. Mr. Secretary, in September 2002, the National
Intelligence Council released a report that identified India, China,
Nigeria, Ethiopia and Russia, countries with large populations and of
strategic interest to the United States, as the ``next wave'' where HIV
is spreading rapidly. (India already carries one-third of the global TB
burden, and because AIDS fuels TB, TB rates will also skyrocket as AIDS
spreads.)
--Congress mandated a 15th country be included as a part of the
President's AIDS Initiative. The PEPFAR strategy report stated
that this 15th country will be named shortly. Do you know that
country this will be? If so, can you name the country?
--If not, what consideration is being given to include India as the
15th country, given the large number of HIV cases already
present, the growing HIV problem that is likely to become a
more generalized epidemic and India's strategic importance?
--India has a remarkable TB program that has expanded over 40 fold in
the last 5 years, treated 3 million patients, and trained
300,000 health workers. I would suggest that India's TB program
has important lessons for the scale-up of AIDS treatment
programs in India and globally and we should support it and use
it as a model in fighting HIV/AIDS. Will you support such an
effort?
Answer. Consultations regarding the selection of a 15th country
have been underway. As a first step, Ambassador Randall L. Tobias, the
U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator, has consulted with senior officials
within the Administration, including at the U.S. Agency for
International Development (USAID), the U.S. Department of Health and
Human Services (HHS), and the U.S. Department of State, about possible
candidate countries for the 15th focus country. From this consultative
process, the following list of 39 countries were identified by one or
more of the agencies named above as a potential candidate for the 15th
focus country.
emergency plan for aids relief
15th focus country--initial candidate countries
Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bolivia, Brazil,
Burma, Cambodia, China, Croatia, Egypt, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia,
Guatemala, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan,
Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mexico, Moldova, Nepal, Nicaragua, Peru,
Philippines, Romania, Russia, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkmenistan,
Ukraine, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam.
Currently, these countries are being considered in the context of
the ten standards listed below. These considerations provide a basis
for comparative analysis and discussion regarding the potential
candidates. It is important to note that these do not represent
weighted criteria against which countries will be quantitatively
evaluated. We do not expect that any one country will excel in all
areas; instead, each country is being evaluated for its collective
strengths and weaknesses.
--Severity and Magnitude of the Epidemic.--The prevalence rate, the
rate of increase in HIV infection, and the total number of
people living with HIV/AIDS.
--Commitment of Host-Country Government.--The basis of leadership's
willingness to address HIV/AIDS and stigma and its desire to
partner in an amplified response.
--Host-Country commitment of resource potential.--The degree to which
the host government has the capacity and the determination to
make trade-offs among national priorities and resources in
order to combat HIV/AIDS.
--Enabling Environment.--The level of corruption, stigma, free press,
state of government bureaucracies and the strength of bilateral
partnerships, all of which support effective use of Emergency
Plan resources.
--U.S. Government In-country Presence.--Whether the country has a
strong U.S. Government bilateral in-country presence by USAID
and/or HHS.
--Applicability of Emergency Plan Approaches.--Whether modes of
transmission of HIV/AIDS in the host country are receptive to
Emergency Plan interventions.
--Potential Impact of Emergency Plan Interventions.--How many people
can be reached and the effect of intervention on the trajectory
of disease.
--Gaps in Response.--Whether the U.S. Government's technical
expertise, training, development and strengthening of health
care systems and infrastructure would fill gaps in the current
response.
--Existence of Other Partners.--Whether non-governmental
organizations and other partners have a substantial in-country
presence and can facilitate rapid expansion of services and
efficient use of funds.
--U.S. Strategic Interests.--The Emergency Plan is ultimately a
humanitarian endeavor. At the same time, applicability of U.S.
strategic interests may further the sustainability of
programming, engender new sources of support, and offer
increased opportunities for partnerships.
With regard to India, it is among the potential candidates for the
15th focus country. As you know, India has the second largest
population of HIV-infected persons in the world, second only to South
Africa. Regardless of its selection as a 15th focus country, an
amplified response is necessary to stem the potential for a generalized
epidemic that would greatly increase India's HIV/AIDS burden. India has
a well-developed national strategic plan to address HIV/AIDS and a
comparatively large pool of health professionals to assist in its
implementation.
In addition, the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief
includes nearly $5 billion to support on-going bilateral HIV/AIDS
programs in approximately 100 countries worldwide, including in India.
The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) are highly engaged and
active in the HIV/AIDS response in India. India is a participating
country in HHS' Global AIDS Program through which HHS allocated $2.3
million for HIV/AIDS programs in India in fiscal year 2002, and $3.6
million in fiscal year 2003. USAID allocated $12.2 million to HIV/AIDS
prevention and care activities in India in fiscal year 2002, and $13.5
million in fiscal year 2003. Additionally, both the U.S. Departments of
Defense and Labor have HIV/AIDS programs underway in India. Numerous
other donors, including governments, the private sector, multilateral
organizations, and foundations, also fund HIV/AIDS programs in India.
With regard to using India's tuberculosis program as a model for
HIV/AIDS treatment, the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief is
focused on identifying and promoting evidence-based best practices in
combating HIV/AIDS. The Directly Observed Therapy-Short Course (DOTS)
treatment that has been so effective in India has served as a model for
HIV/AIDS treatment programs in Haiti and elsewhere. It is important to
note that unlike TB, HIV therapy is life-long and therefore DOTS will
likely require modification to be utilized on a large scale. One of the
most important lessons drawn from the DOTS program is its use of
community health workers to expand access to treatment. The network
model of treatment and care promoted by the President's Emergency Plan
implements this lesson by using community health workers to expand
access to HIV/AIDS treatment in rural areas where consistent access to
medical health professionals is limited.
The President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief also recognizes the
importance of local context in implementing effective HIV/AIDS
treatment programs. India's human resource capacity is significantly
greater than that of many focus countries of the President's Emergency
Plan, as is the reach of its health care infrastructure. These
advantages play a significant role in India's tuberculosis treatment
success, but represent limiting factors in access to treatment in the
focus countries. Thus, the Emergency Plan, while actively implementing
best practices identified from the success of DOTS therapy, focuses
significant resources in building human capacity and strengthening
health infrastructure in the focus countries to support expanded
treatment programs.
Question. The Administration has raised safety concerns about
generic drugs manufactured overseas. In some cases, these concerns are
legitimate and we would all agree on the importance of safety and
quality. For this reason the WHO carefully evaluates the safety and
effectiveness of drugs, whether manufactured overseas or in the United
States. Yet, you have questioned the WHO approval process because it is
not a regulatory body that requires clinical trials.
In the last week, the Global Fund, the World Bank, UNICEF, and the
Clinton Foundation negotiated an agreement that will significantly
expand the use of fixed dose combination drugs made in India and South
Africa. This will dramatically increase the number of AIDS patients
being treated.
--Given the urgent need of millions of AIDS victims, will you consent
to allowing the purchase and use of drugs prequalified by WHO
while you develop standards and a process to determine whether
WHO meets the bar?
--What is the timeline the Administration will use to put in place
and judge whether the generic drugs manufactured overseas are
safe and efficacious for purchase with bilateral dollars? How
are you going to deal with the variations in the procurement of
drugs? Will there be an collaboration with the coalition?
Answer. Our policy for the procurement of antiretroviral treatments
under the Emergency Plan is to provide drugs that are safe, effective,
and of high quality at the lowest cost regardless of origin or who
produces them to the extent permitted by law. This may include true
generics, copies or brand name products. A true generic drug is one
that has undergone review to ensure that it is comparable to an
innovator drug in dosage form, strength, route of administration,
quality, performance characteristics, and intended use. Drugs that have
not gone through such a process are more accurately described as
copies.
On March 29-30, 2004, in Gaborone, Botswana, an international
conference was held on fixed-dose combination (FDC) drug products. The
conference included representatives of 23 governments, drug regulatory
agencies, research-based and generic pharmaceutical industry, public
health leaders, health care providers, advocacy groups (including
persons living with HIV/AIDS), academia, and multilateral and non-
governmental organizations. We were very pleased with the broad
international support and participation that the conference generated,
including from the conference co-sponsors: the Joint United Nations
Program on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS), the World Health Organization (WHO), and
the Southern African Development Community (SADC).
The conference successfully completed a vital step forward in
developing commonly agreed-upon scientific and technical international
principles to evaluate the quality, safety, and efficacy of FDCs for
use in treating HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria. The conference
sponsors, representatives, and experts agreed that the final principles
are not intended to and should not impede access to safe, efficacious,
and high quality FDCs by people living with HIV/AIDS. The principles
are not intended to address specific quality issues, or to develop
clinical, therapeutic, or regulatory guidelines. Rather the document
will provide scientific and technical principles for considering,
developing, and evaluating FDCs for use in treatment. It is anticipated
that the principles will be of use to regulatory agencies around the
world, as well as to pharmaceutical companies and other organizations
involved in developing and evaluating FDCs. In this regard, the
principles will aid us in determining the standards we will expect
fixed-dose combination drugs to meet to qualify for our purchase and
expedite the process by which we can purchase lower-cost, non-patented
FDCs with confidence.
We have the highest respect for the WHO and its prequalification
pilot program. However, the WHO is not a regulatory authority. We must
be assured that the drugs we provide meet acceptable safety and
efficacy standards and are of high quality.
Under the Emergency Plan, we intend to support programs that will
have a sustainable positive impact on health. If the medications in
question have not been adequately evaluated or have had problems with
safety or cause resistance issues in the future, we will be
appropriately held accountable. We will continue to work with WHO and
the international community on this important area. The finalization
and adoption of the principles document for FDCs will be a major step
forward for all. The final statement of principles is expected to be
released during the second quarter of 2004.
microenterprise
Question. USAID has been a global leader in the area of
microenterprise, but we need to coordinate our efforts with other major
players--particularly the World Bank and the United Nations Development
Programme (UNDP). The Microenterprise for Self-Reliance Act of 2000
states that the Administrator of USAID and the Secretary of State
should ``seek to support and strengthen the effectiveness of
microfinance activities in the United Nations agencies, such as the
UNDP, which have provided key leadership in developing the
microenterprise sector.''
What steps have you taken to strengthen the effectiveness of
microfinance activities in the UNDP?
Answer. The United Nations Development Program (UNDP) and USAID are
both active members of the Consultative Group to Assist the Poor
(CGAP), the 28-donor coordinating body for microfinance. USAID played a
leading role in founding CGAP and the agency's financial and technical
support has strengthened donors, including UNDP, in a number of ways.
Over the past 18 months, for example, CGAP has coordinated a ``peer
review'' process to increase aid effectiveness in microfinance.
Seventeen donors, including USAID and UNDP, have been assessed through
this process. In each case, the peer review team has identified very
specific areas for improvement and has proposed steps to strengthen the
strategic clarity, staffing, instruments, knowledge management, and
accountability of the microfinance activities of the agency being
reviewed. The findings have been shared with other donors. UNDP has
taken a number of concrete steps to respond to the findings, and the
Administrator of the UNDP provides leadership to the microfinance peer
review initiative.
USAID has also worked with other CGAP members to develop stronger
donor practices, including the recent drafting of core principles for
microfinance that is in the process of being endorsed by all CGAP
members. At the last annual meeting, the CGAP member donors also
endorsed new requirements for membership, including comprehensive
reporting of microfinance activities and results. USAID has also used
CGAP to collaborate on developing new tools for microfinance donors,
such as common performance measures. USAID, UNDP and CGAP took the lead
in developing specialized microfinance training for donor staff, and
many staff from UNDP and other donors have benefited from the week-long
course.
USAID also takes responsibility for developing knowledge and ``how-
to'' materials in specific areas, such as post-conflict microfinance
and rural and agricultural finance. USAID invites participation from
other donors in this work. Last month, for example, we convened a donor
forum on recent innovations in rural finance and their implications for
the donor community. Finally, in the field, USAID is often involved
with UNDP in in-country donor coordination efforts in the microfinance
arena.
Question. I am concerned that the UNDP has not joined USAID's
efforts (which are required by Public Law 108-31) to develop cost-
effective poverty-assessment tools to identify the very poor and ensure
they receive microenterprise loans.
Will you work with Congress to ensure that UNDP expands its
microfinance efforts for the very poor and uses the poverty measurement
methods that USAID is developing so that we can be sure that these
funds are reaching the people who need them the most?
Answer. USAID has invited CGAP's technical and financial
collaboration in developing the poverty assessment tools, as a means to
ensure that the broader donor community is aware of and involved in
this important work. An ambitious work plan is underway to have the
tools designed, field-tested and ready for implementation by USAID in
October 2005. Over the coming year, USAID will be testing preliminary
tools in the field with diverse partners. This should begin to provide
evidence of the value and practicality of the USAID tools for other
donors, including UNDP. We hope that the tools will prove sufficiently
valuable and cost-effective to suggest ways for donors and
practitioners to better serve very poor clients.
Question. Last year, the Appropriations Committee included language
in the report that accompanied the Foreign Operations bill (S. Rept.
108-106) indicating that ``The majority of microenterprise development
resources should be used to support the direct provision of services to
poor microentrepreneurs through these networks. Funding for
administrative, procurement, research and other support activities not
directly related to the delivery and management of services should be
kept to a minimum.'' I am concerned to learn that by USAID's own
reporting, only 45 percent of microenterprise funding in 2002--the most
recent year for which detailed data are available--went to Private
Voluntary Organizations, NGOs, credit unions and cooperatives (the
groups that should be receiving the bulk of the monies) while the
balance went to consulting firms, other for-profit organizations,
business associations, research entities, and government agencies.
What are you doing, or what can you do, to ensure that a majority
of these funds will, in fact, reach the extremely poor women Congress
intended for them to reach?
Answer. USAID's microenterprise development support continues to
benefit the very poor in a variety of ways. Using the measures
established by the U.S. Congress, the portion of USAID's fiscal year
2002 microenterprise development funding that benefited the very poor
was 50 percent. The services provided to poor and very poor
entrepreneurs included ``poverty loans,'' other financial services such
as safe savings accounts, and other support including business
development services. The Microenterprise for Self-Reliance Act of 2000
defined poverty loan limits, by region, for purposes of assessing the
extent of service to very poor clients. Poverty loans comprised a
majority (63 percent) of all loans held by microfinance institutions
reporting data in 2002.
Just as women are disproportionately represented among the very
poor, so too are they disproportionately represented among clients of
USAID-supported microfinance institutions. Women clients constituted
more than two-thirds of the total clients of all microfinance
institutions in fiscal year 2002,\1\ and the trend is upward. The Near
East has seen the most dramatic change: the percentage of women clients
of USAID-supported microfinance institutions in the region has more
than doubled since 2000, rising from 27 percent to 55 percent.
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\1\ Excluding Bank Rakyat Indonesia (BRI). BRI's numbers are
typically excluded from analyses of USAID microenterprise development
funding because the Bank's client base is so large it would skew the
findings for the rest of the institutions that receive USAID support.
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USAID achieves these results in part through collaboration with
private voluntary organization (PVO) networks, which are the backbone
of U.S. assistance to the microenterprise development field. USAID has
long supported the development of PVO networks (including cooperative
development organizations). The share of USAID funding received
directly by U.S. PVOs, NGOs, cooperatives and credit unions for
services to poor entrepreneurs averaged around 46 percent in the 1997-
2003 period.
USAID works with other direct service providers as well, to ensure
that ever more poor clients receive microenterprise support from USAID-
assisted awardees. Banks, non-bank financial institutions, and business
associations complement the agency's traditional partners and provide
diverse financial and business services to poor microentrepreneurs. In
fiscal year 2003, direct service providers received an estimated 58
percent of total USAID microenterprise funding directly through grants,
cooperative agreements, and contracts. This figure understates the
extent of support to direct service providers. Of the funds awarded to
consulting firms, a significant portion (often more than 50 percent of
the contracted amount) is typically designated for direct service
providers, including PVOs, NGOs, cooperatives and credit unions. Thus
the actual share of USAID funding awarded to direct service providers
is consistently over two-thirds of the total.
USAID is a global leader in supporting innovations that benefit
very poor women entrepreneurs. The following examples from India
illustrate creative approaches to overcoming gender and socioeconomic
disadvantages:
--In India, the rural dairy initiative seeks to help 4,000 micro-
scale dairying households in the Himalayan state of Uttaranchal
move from subsistence to commercial production. With $750,000
from USAID, AT India (a local non-governmental organization) is
facilitating delivery of business development services and
credit, helping very poor women in remote areas integrate into
the economy and find profitable markets for their dairy
products. Financial services are delivered through small
producer networks called mutually aided cooperative societies;
microcredit allows easy access to services as producers move
from subsistence level to commercial scale of operations and
enter into competition with government-sponsored dairies.
Business services are supplied through private-sector providers
and include milk and milk products collection, distribution and
marketing businesses, as well as a range of veterinary,
nutritional and other livestock services.
--Also in India, SEWA (Self-Employed Women's Association) Bank has
used the tools USAID developed under the AIMS (Assessing Impact
of Microenterprise Services) project to develop a number of new
products and services for its clients. The SEWA Bank recently
introduced a one-day loan to meet the credit needs of vegetable
vendors. In addition, it now offers a special savings account
designed to pay for marriage expenses, and has started a
financial literacy program to help its members improve their
personal financial management. SEWA is also reviewing the
appropriateness of its products for each of the major
subsectors in which its members work. Future plans may include
a loan product to finance girls' education.
Question. I am concerned about signals that the State Department is
backing off of its commitment to microenterprise. First,
microenterprise is no longer mentioned in USAID's Congressional Budget
Justification (CBJ). The ``Pillars and Programs of Special Interest''
tables in the fiscal year 2002, fiscal year 2003, and fiscal year 2004
CBJs all include a separate line for microenterprise under the
``Economic Growth, Agriculture, and Trade'' category. In the fiscal
year 2005 CBJ, there is no reference to microenterprise in this table.
Second, microenterprise is not mentioned at any point in the USAID
Strategic Plan for 2004-2009. Finally, you made no mention of
microenterprise in your prepared testimony.
Are the State Department and USAID backing off their commitment to
microenterprise? Given that there is no specific reference to
microenterprise in this year's USAID CBJ, what level of microenterprise
funding do you believe is appropriate?
Answer. The State Department and USAID remain firmly committed to
support for microenterprise development and recognize its important
contribution to economic growth and poverty reduction. In fact, I wrote
in the February 2004 issue of the State Department publication Economic
Perspectives, ``I am proud of America's key role in promoting
microenterprise. U.S. objectives are threefold: to improve access to
financial services for the world's poor; to support access to business
services that specifically address constraints felt by poorer
entrepreneurs; and to improve the business climate through regulatory,
legal and policy reforms. Our efforts are global, from Mali in Africa
and Jordan in the Near East to Azerbaijan in Europe and Peru in Latin
America. Our successes will be universal, with the concerted efforts of
the international community.''
In fiscal year 2003, USAID substantially exceeded the $175 million
funding target set by Congress. In fiscal year 2004, the agency will
once again surpass the agreed upon target of $180 million. Despite the
very tight budget in fiscal year 2005, USAID considers a
microenterprise funding target of $180 million to be appropriate for
that year as well.
Question. In the May edition of Vanity Fair (page 230), there is an
article entitle ``The Path to War'' which states that one week prior to
your speech at the U.N. Security Council in New York on February 5, the
White House provided you with a lengthy document intended to serve as
the basis of your UNSC speech that ``was a laundry list of intelligence
gathered by the government about Iraq's weapons programs.'' According
to the article, this dossier was ``cobbled together in Vice President
Richard Cheney's office by a team led by Cheney's chief of staff, I.
Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby, and John Hannah, the Vice President's deputy
assistant for national security affairs.'' The article reports that you
and your State Department staff rejected the White House dossier--which
ultimately grew to over 90 pages--and started from scratch by drafting
a new speech based on CIA analysis at CIA Headquarters.
--Is this account accurate? If so:
--Why did you and your State Department staff reject the White
House-provided information as the basis for your Security
Council speech? What specifically did you find
objectionable in this material?
--Why did you rely on the CIA--rather than your own intelligence
analysts at the State Department's INR bureau--to draft
this speech? Do you find INR's analysis on Iraq matter in
any way deficient? Please elaborate. Why didn't you rely on
intelligence analysis provided by DOD to make your Security
Council speech.
--How skeptical were you prior to the recent Iraq war regarding the
quality of intelligence reporting provided by sources from
the Iraqi National Congress?
--If the account is not accurate, which parts are not accurate and
what are the facts?
Answer. Shortly after the President gave the State of Union speech
in January 2003, a small interagency team under State Department
leadership was sent to the CIA to work with Intelligence Community (IC)
analysts to prepare my presentation to the U.N. Security Council.
Working directly with DCI Tenet, the Deputy DCI, John McLaughlin, and
key CIA, DIA, NSA, and other analysts, the team carefully reviewed,
vetted and assessed a large volume of material from a variety of
sources. I urged the IC to conduct a careful sourcing review of all of
the intelligence information in my presentation. As a result, on a
number of occasions during the preparation process, we decided to omit
information from my presentation. It would not be appropriate for me to
comment further on intelligence matters and this deliberative process.
But I will say that I gave a draft of my proposed presentation to
Assistant Secretary for INR, Carl Ford, and he in turn provided me his
comments. Let me say also that INR's overall assessment of Iraq's BW
and CW programs paralleled the Intelligence Community's assessment of
those programs. Where the INR assessment of Iraq's WMD programs
differed from the IC was in the status of Iraq's nuclear program. I
reviewed that difference of views and decided to go with the view of
the majority of the IC.
The briefing I presented to the United Nations Security Council on
February 5, 2003, was based on the best intelligence information that
was available to us, available to the United Nations over a period of
years, and available to the foreign intelligence services whom we
worked with closely and for whose efforts we had great respect. We all
believed that Saddam Hussein had the capabilities and the intent to
produce WMD. We still believe that. At the time of my briefing, we also
believed that stockpiles of prohibited weapons were in Iraq, including
WMD. We were right about missiles and other conventional ordnance. But
we haven't found stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons, nor have
we found an active nuclear program.
Question. The May edition of Vanity Fair contains an article
entitled, ``The Path to War,'' and cites Sir Christopher Meyer, the
British Ambassador to the United States, as stating that President Bush
made clear in a White House meeting on September 20, 2001, with you,
Dr. Rice, Prime Minister Blair and Ambassador Meyer, that he was
determined to topple Saddam Hussein from power. According to the
article, Amb. Mayer stated that ``[r]umors were already flying that
Bush would use 9/11 as a pretext to attack Iraq . . . On the one hand,
Blair came with a very strong message--don't get distracted; the
priorities were al-Qaeda, Afghanistan, the Taliban. Bush said, ``I
agree with you, Tony. We must deal with this first. But when we have
dealt with Afghanistan, we must come back to Iraq.''
--Do you recall this conversation? Is this an accurate
characterization of that meeting? Please elaborate.
--Other former Bush Administration officials--Richard Clarke, former
Secretary O'Neill--have suggested that going to war with Saddam
was a high Administration priority immediately after Sept. 11,
or sooner. What is your recollection of specifically when the
Administration made invading Iraq a high priority? What
specific event or piece of intelligence was the catalyst for
the decision to go to war against Iraq?
Answer. After September 11, I spoke on numerous occasions with
Principals, the President, and other foreign leaders and officials, to
include PM Blair and Ambassador Meyer, regarding our response to the
September 11 attack. These and other conversations were part of a
process of careful and deliberate considerations that the President
undertook as he considered how to respond to the September 11 attacks.
It would not be appropriate for me to discuss specific, privileged,
pre-decisional conversations with the President. As we know, in
September 2001, the President directed the U.S. Government to respond
against those who perpetrated or facilitated the 9/11 attack--Al-Qaeda
and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan that provided al-Qaeda safehaven.
The United States' decision, more than a year later, to undertake
military operations against Iraq was based on Saddam Hussein's refusal
to comply with U.N. Security Council resolutions and his defiance of
the international community, his capabilities and intent to possess CW,
BW, and nuclear weapons--in the past he had used CW against the
Iranians and against his own people--and, as we believed then, his
possession of stockpiles of CW and BW weapons as well as an active
nuclear weapon development program. The Iraqi regime's failure to
comply with the U.N. resolutions and to continue to defy the
international community was made clear in the months after the Security
Council unanimously passed resolution 1441 and after U.N.-mandated
inspections resulted in reports to the Council that Iraq was not
providing the immediate, unconditional and active cooperation that had
been demanded by the Council.
Question. You were recently quoted in the press (e.g., in the April
3, 2004 editions of the Washington Post and The New York Times) as
stating that your characterization of mobile biological laboratories in
your presentation to the United Nations last year appears to have been
based on faulty intelligence sources. In your 2003 Security Council
speech, you cited information regarding mobile biowarfare labs, citing
eyewitness accounts and saying, ``[w]e have firsthand descriptions of
biological weapons factories on wheels and rails.''
--Please elaborate on the nature and extent of your concern with the
intelligence reporting on this issue--which at the time you
indicated was based on multiple sources. What have you since
found out about these apparently faulty intelligence sources,
and where within the Intelligence Community do you believe that
responsibility lies for not adequately vetting these sources?
--Do you believe the U.S. Intelligence Community should initiate a
reassessment of its vetting procedures for human source
reporting?
--Do you consider Intelligence Community reporting related to Iraq
any more reliable now than it was before the recent war with
Iraq?
Answer. My presentation at the U.N. Security Council on February 5,
2003 reflected the best and most rigorous intelligence, based on the
information at hand at the time. In the preparation for that
presentation at the United Nations, I had insisted on multiple sources
for all intelligence. For example, there were four separate sources for
the information I presented on the mobile biological labs. Recently,
the Director for Central Intelligence (DCI) acknowledged that the
Intelligence Community had previously had access to information that
called into question the credibility of one of the sources on these
labs. I understand that, because of this lapse, the DCI has publicly
stated the Intelligence Community's review process will be scrutinized
carefully and, where needed, adjusted. As for the other three sources,
I also understand that their previously solid credentials are now also
in question--but to go into this any further would cause my answer to
be classified, so I will stop here. At the end of the day, the
President, the Vice President, the other cabinet officers and I
continue to have confidence that the Intelligence Community presents us
and other senior U.S. officials with timely and credible information
and its best analysis, based on what is known at any given time.
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Questions Submitted by Senator Mary L. Landrieu
Question. How was the Administration so wildly off the mark on the
costs, difficulties and duration of our involvement in Iraq?
Answer. Many agencies worked to provide the best possible estimates
of the resources that would be required to free Iraq from the
repressive regime of Saddam Hussein and to ensure that Iraqis were able
to form an independent, united, prosperous and peaceful Iraq after the
conflict. The innumerable variables in making such calculations made
this very difficult.
I would refer you to my interagency colleagues for comment on their
remarks.
Question. Why were those working on post-war plans dismissed by
DOD/the Administration? Why weren't the State Department and the Army
War College listened to? Why hasn't CPA put to use the best practices
espoused by numerous government agencies, especially since CPA is
operating in fits and starts and cannot obligate the $18 billion in its
hands?
Answer. Our focus now is on supporting the reconstruction and
political transformation of Iraq and preparing for a transition on June
30 to Iraqi self-rule, the dissolution of CPA, and the establishment of
an American embassy, not on revisiting previous differences of opinion.
Our policy in Iraq has always been a fully cooperative, interagency
effort, directed by the President. Given the magnitude of the
undertaking, it should not be surprising that there were interagency
disagreements at times over personnel and planning. State did its best
to contribute constructively to the planning effort, and I am proud of
our contributions.
On your questions regarding CPA contracting policies, I would refer
you to my CPA and DOD colleagues.
Question. What happens to CPA Funds when CPA Disbands on June 30,
2004? Mr. Secretary, Congress appropriated $18.4 billion for Iraqi
reconstruction and humanitarian aid last October to the Coalition
Provisional Authority. In November, the Coalition Provisional Authority
established it would cease operations on June 30, 2004 and hand-over
the governance of Iraq to an interim government. A recent CPA Inspector
General Report states that the CPA has only obligated $900 million of
the $18.4 billion for reconstruction, or 5 percent. That fact, in and
of itself, is inconceivable, but I want to ask these questions.
What happens to the remaining $17+ billion of taxpayer money
allocated to the CPA when the CPA shuts its doors on June 30? Will it
transfer to State? DOD? Will Congress have to reallocate these funds?
What is State doing to fill the void left by CPA?
Answer. After June 30, the Secretary of State will have
responsibility for the continuous supervision and general direction of
all U.S. assistance for Iraq, including the $18.4 billion Iraq Relief
and Reconstruction Fund (IRRF). Each implementing agency (State,
Defense, USAID, HHS, and Treasury) will execute assistance programs
according to its own regulations under the overall guidance of U.S.
Mission in Baghdad. The Coalition Provisional Authority expects to have
obligated $5 billion of the $18.4 billion to programs in Iraq by June
30. OMB has thus far allocated about $11 billion to appropriate
implementing agencies, and not a single allocation to CPA or its
successor. In addition, $2.5 billion of 2003 Iraq reconstruction
assistance continues to fund thousands of projects as money is
obligated and disbursed to those projects. Funds are allocated
according to the spending plan described in the quarterly 2207 report
to Congress. The State Department is working to ensure a smooth
transition from CPA authorities to the U.S. Mission Baghdad. Program
Management Office (PMO) policy oversight and general oversight
functions will transfer to the Mission, while many of its projects,
particularly in the construction sector will continue to be supervised
by a temporary organization called the Project and Contracting Office.
Question. Mr. Secretary, on March 31, you pledged an additional $1
billion in U.S. funding to the reconstruction of Afghanistan. President
Karzai says Afghanistan requires at least $27 billion in foreign aid
over the next five years. The donor conference garnered a total of $4
billion for this year. I applaud the donors and the Administration's
pledge, but I have several questions.
When does the State Department anticipate sending the request for
an additional $1 billion to Congress: Fiscal year 2005? Fiscal year
2006? As a supplemental? How will the money be used? Is the State
Department committed to allocating at least 10 percent of this pledge
toward the plight of Afghan women? For how many years will the United
States continue to provide economic assistance to Afghanistan? How much
funding will be allocated during that time-frame?
Answer. In fiscal year 2004, the United States is providing $2.2
billion for Afghanistan's reconstruction, which includes the $1 billion
pledge announced in Berlin. In fiscal year 2005, we have requested an
additional $1.2 billion for Afghanistan. This money will be used for a
wide variety of programs and purposes, including security assistance
(building the Afghan National Army, training national police, counter-
narcotics, rule of law, etc.), reconstruction and development projects
(road construction, health clinics, education, power generation, etc.)
humanitarian relief (shelter construction, etc.), and economic growth
initiatives (capacity-building, domestic revenue generation, etc.).
Though no decisions have yet been made regarding the precise allocation
of future year funds, support for women and girls in Afghanistan
remains a high priority, and we will continue to allocate funds for
these initiatives.
Since fiscal year 2001, the United States has provided over $4
billion total for Afghan reconstruction, and as Secretary Powell has
stated on numerous occasions, we are committed to Afghanistan for the
long haul. We must ensure that Afghanistan never again reverts to a
sanctuary for terrorism, a challenge that will require significant
resources over a prolonged period of time. However, the progress made
to date has been substantial, and we are confident that with continued,
steady support, Afghanistan will ultimately re-join the community of
nations as a stable, democratic, and self-reliant partner.
Question. The Antiterrorism Assistance program (ATA) has been a
valuable tool to train international security forces and police forces
in antiterrorism methodologies and tactics. I am proud Louisiana has
played such an active role in ATA. I understand the State Department is
committed to providing such training overseas for programs in
Afghanistan and Iraq and for the establishment of regional training
centers closer to the home nations of the participants in ATA. It
certainly makes sense to conduct training in Afghanistan and Iraq, but
the other overseas training is certainly a deviation from the
commitments the State Department made to the State of Louisiana. At the
behest of the State Department, the State of Louisiana committed
resources to expand its training infrastructure to accommodate
increased training. If the State Department continues to move ATA funds
overseas, programs in Louisiana will be threatened.
Is the State Department committed to upholding the pledges it made
to Louisiana and other states to conduct ATA within the United States?
Will State continue to fund ATA within the United States at fiscal year
2002 levels?
Answer. We share your view that the Antiterrorism Assistance
program has been an extremely valuable tool in the United States
Government's effort to fight the war on terrorism. Many allied nations
have the will to combat terrorism, but ATA helps them develop and
maintain the skill they need in a variety of disciplines.
Louisiana State University and the Louisiana State Police Academy
have been valuable partners in antiterrorism training over the years,
as has New Mexico Tech in Socorro, NM, the Nonproliferation and
National Security Institute in Albuquerque, NM, the Federal Law
Enforcement Training Center in Brunswick Georgia, the Pacific Northwest
National Laboratory in Hanford, Washington, the ATF K-9 Training Center
in Front Royal, VA, the FBI Academy in Quantico, VA, Fort A.P. Hill in
Bowling Green, VA, the ATF laboratory in Beltsville, MD, the Armed
Forces Institute of Pathology in Rockville, MD, and a number of other
U.S. facilities and institutions.
Since September 11, 2001, ATA has also provided intensive in-
country training programs in key countries such as Pakistan, Indonesia,
Afghanistan, Colombia, and Iraq. The Department of State does not plan
to discontinue U.S.-based training in favor of overseas training.
Rather, the Coordinator for Counterterrorism, with my concurrence, has
tasked ATA with broadening its menu of training options to include in-
country programs, fly-away courses, emergency antiterrorism assistance
training teams, and customized consultations as well as standard
training at U.S. facilities.
We believe ATA has responded well to the demand for flexibility in
responding to shifting terrorist threats. The ATA budget for training
has increased in recent years, and the Louisiana institutions continue
to meet training requirements effectively. However, there is no way the
Department can guarantee specific levels, types and locations of
training into the future, as those decisions will depend upon as yet
undetermined requirements and funding levels. Please be assured that
the Department will continue to utilize all platforms that prove
effective in improving the counterterrorism capabilities of our partner
nations.
shortfall of arabic linguists
Question. Secretary Powell, I fully support your efforts to recruit
the next generation of diplomats through the DRI. Not only is
recruiting vital to our armed forces but it is also imperative for
State to recruit Foreign Service employees. Foreign language training
is critical to the success of our members of the Foreign Service. More
importantly these men and women must speak the right languages.
What efforts are being taken to ensure the State Department has
sufficient numbers of speakers of languages such as Arabic, Farsi, and
Pashtun?
Answer. The Department of State has developed and started to
implement a coherent, integrated strategic plan for meeting its
language proficiency goals. This plan involves close collaboration
among the Bureau of Human Resources, the Foreign Service Institute, and
the functional and regional bureaus and posts with foreign language
requirements. Our approach involves targeted recruitment, credit in the
hiring process for language proficiency, and incentives to acquire,
maintain, improve language skills to highly advanced levels, and to re-
use over a career the critical and difficult languages that are in high
demand as we build the language cadres needed. This strategic plan is
reinforced by the high priority value that the Department's corporate
culture places on language proficiency among our officer corps.
critical languages
New Policy on Hiring Preference.--To boost our language capability,
in December 2003 the State Department instituted special preference for
hiring into the Foreign Service, applicable to both generalists and
specialists. This preference is given to candidates who speak languages
for which our current needs are critical. These languages include
Arabic, Chinese (Cantonese or Standard/Mandarin), Indic languages (e.g.
Urdu, Hindi, Nepali, Bengali, Punjabi), Iranian languages (e.g. Farsi/
Persian, Dari, Tajiki, Pashto), Japanese, Korean, Russian, and Turkic
languages (e.g. Azerbaijani, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Turkish, Turkmen, Uzbek).
This list is a reflection of foreign policy objectives, language-
teaching considerations, and supply of speakers among current
employees, so it is subject to revision as needs evolve.
Specifically, candidates with a speaking score of 2 or higher on a
1 to 5 scale in a critical needs language get a 0.4 point increase on
the hiring registers, while 0.17 remains the increase for other
languages. Candidates who benefit from the new policy have already
passed the relevant Foreign Service entrance exams. As a result of this
policy, generalist candidates who have their scores adjusted upward are
moved up on the list of eligible hires, thereby increasing the chances
that they would be offered an appointment into the Foreign Service.
Language skills factor prominently in the assignments process,
affecting job opportunities for the Foreign Service, and the promotion
process. In addition, Language Incentive Pay provides financial
incentives for the acquisition, improvement and repeated use of
languages. This emphasis on languages throughout a career is balanced
and appropriate.
A priority has been to develop and expand our Arabic language
programs to support efforts in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and elsewhere
in the Middle East. Arabic language training has more than doubled
between fiscal year 1999 and fiscal year 2003.
FSI has recently published a ``Language Continuum'' that is
parallel to FSI's other career and training-related continua. A
collaborative effort with the personnel system and the operational
bureaus, this Continuum outlines for the Department and its employees a
way to meld the principles of strategic workforce planning and the
``Open Assignments'' system, by serving as a roadmap to weave language
proficiency development and use into a successful career progression.
The Language Continuum is designed to help Foreign Service personnel
plan a long-term integrated approach to language learning and use,
leading the motivated and talented more often to attain the advanced
language skills needed. In partnership with regional bureaus, posts,
and the Bureau of Human Resources, ``beyond S-3/R-3'' training
opportunities may be arranged at select educational institutions
overseas, at a FSI field school or at FSI/Washington. (``S-3/R-3''
represents a speaking/reading General Professional Proficiency.) This
targets the need to continuously build and expand the cadre of
sophisticated users of critical languages, who can better understand
the positions and assumptions of others and communicate our own
perspectives more cogently and persuasively in order to effectively
defend and advance the interests of the United States.
The Language Continuum provides a ``roadmap'' to systematically
guide employees at different stages in their careers through the
multiple training opportunities; outlines a strategic plan for
achieving the language competency needed for tenuring and for promotion
to the senior level; describes available resources beyond course
offerings, including such resources as home stays, guided self-study
and language learner counseling; addresses the language-training needs
of eligible family members; and provides learning tips to foster more
effective language proficiency, and use and improvement to advanced
levels.
girls' education
Background
Question. There are about 70 million girls not attending school in
the developing world. They make up three-fifths of the 115 million
children out of school. The 2003/04 EFA Global Monitoring Report found
that 70 countries are currently at risk of not achieving the Millennium
Development goal of gender parity (an equal number of girls and boys in
school) by 2005.
Research shows that improving girls' education is one of the most
effective development investments countries can make. Providing
education for girls:
--Boosts economic productivity
--Lowers maternal and infant mortality rates
--Reduces fertility rates
/--Increases life expectancy
--Protects against HIV/AIDS
--Improves educational prospects for the next generation
--Promotes better management of environmental resources
Encouraging girls' enrollment in school is a focus of basic
education funding. The Administration's request for basic education
under DA in fiscal year 2005 is $212 million, representing a $23
million cut from the fiscal year 2004 appropriation under DA.
Mr. Secretary, the effectiveness of educating girls is very well
documented.
Educating girls:
--Boosts economic productivity
--Lowers maternal and infant mortality rates
--Reduces life expectancy
--Protects against HIV/AIDS
--Improves educational prospects for the next generation
Getting more of the 70 million girls who are currently out of
school into classrooms is one of the primary goals of the basic
education program.
Given these benefits, I am very concerned by the Administration's
request for a $23 million reduction in basic education support under
Development Assistance.
Could you please comment on the rationale behind this?
Answer. I couldn't agree with you more on the value of girls'
education. Education can lead to improved lives and livelihoods not
only for girls but ultimately impacts entire families and communities.
In addition to the points you have made, I would add, that in these
troubled times around the world, literacy and learning are the
necessary foundation for both democracy and development. That is why
education is a strong priority for this Administration.
While there is a small decrease in the fiscal year 2005 Development
Assistance account for basic education, funding from all USAID-managed
accounts is currently projected to be the equivalent of fiscal year
2004, $334 million, which excludes funding from recent supplementals. I
would also like to note that total funding for basic education programs
has more than doubled since 2001.
coordinated education and hiv/aids strategy
Question. There is strong evidence that keeping children in
school--especially girls who are much more susceptible to the HIV/AIDS
virus--reduces the chance that they will become infected.
In Swaziland, UNAIDS found that 70 percent of high school age
adolescents attending school are not sexually active, while 70 percent
of out-of-school adolescents are sexually active.
A World Bank study called A Window of Hope reports that in
Zimbabwe, girls who received primary and some secondary education had
lower HIV infection rates--a trend that extended into early adulthood.
Despite this, the focus has been on using schools as a venue for
teaching about AIDS, rather than recognizing the protective nature of
education--that simply being educated helps protect people from
infection.
Given the value of education as the most effective vaccine against
AIDS that we currently have:
Doesn't basic education--and not just AIDS education--have to be
central to AIDS prevention activities?
Answer. Basic education is the foundation for success in the
majority of the Agency's development activities, including agriculture,
private sector development, and health. To be successful in the fight
against HIV/AIDS, it is essential that USAID continue working around
the world to promote completion of basic education for all and
integrate AIDS prevention messages into all of the other sectors,
including education.
coordinated education and hiv/aids strategy
Question. Should the United States have a coordinated strategy on
basic education and HIV/AIDS prevention?
Answer. The U.S. Agency for International Development has both
prevention and mitigation strategies that link basic education to
lessening the impacts of HIV/AIDS. At the primary level, USAID has
model curricula to raise learner awareness of the disease and self-
protection and parallel curricula for teacher training--increased
awareness and basic learning skills combined do contribute over time to
lowered rates of infection. USAID is also supporting a technical
position at UNESCO to advance basic education and HIV/AIDS strategies
at a global level, and through UNESCO, as a member of UNAIDS, with in-
country strategies.
At the mitigation level, USAID developed a model to project the
work force impacts of the disease. This model guides how the education
sector needs to respond to assure continued human resources necessary
for countries and sectors to avoid system and economic collapse, e.g.,
teachers and managers necessary to meet education sector demands. To
offset education work force losses in countries worldwide, a multi-
lingual Internet education portal has been built to train teachers and
provide resources they need.
Question. ``The worldwide advancement of women's issues is not only
keeping with the deeply held values of the American people; it is
strongly in our national interest. Women's issues affect not only
women; they have profound implications for all humankind. We, as a
world community cannot even begin to tackle the array of problems and
challenges confronting us without the full and equal participation in
all aspects of life.''----Sec. Powell, March 7, 2002
Mr. Secretary, your words before the United Nations in March 2002
imply that you and your administration understand the important role
advancing the rights of women has in the reconstruction of a nation,
particularly a nation where women's rights have been violently
oppressed for decades.
Yet, since that time, for whatever reason your administration has
seemingly chosen not to pursue an aggressive, long-term agenda directly
aimed at protecting and improving the lives of women in Afghanistan and
Iraq. Instead, we have employed a ``rising tide lifts all boats''
strategy based on a misperception that overall aid given by the United
States will inevitably benefit all members of the Afghan and Iraqi
population. In fact, in your 2003 report on the status of women and
children you state:
``Overall U.S. humanitarian and reconstruction assistance [in
Afghanistan] will be over $1 billion in fiscal year 2002 and 2003
combined. Most of these funds are intended to benefit the country and
Afghan families as a whole--men, women and children alike. Some aid is
targeted specifically toward Afghan women, children and refugees. This
combination means that it remains impossible to define a distinct
dollar amount devoted just to the three population groups feature in
this report.''
Making matters worse, while the entire report is about current
systemic barriers to reconstruction such as security, economic
development, health care, and education, there is almost no mention of
the unique barriers to women in these areas.
Mr. Secretary, in the words of Martin Luther King ``Peace is not
just the absence of conflict, it is the presence of justice.''
Particularly justice for those for whom justice has been denied. In
other words, the advancement of civil rights requires aggressive action
and targeted programs aimed at eliminating discrimination and promoting
equality. I know that you know this to be true. Why, then, do your
recent policies in this area continually fail to acknowledge this
reality?
Answer. The United States works proactively with women's issues in
Afghanistan and Iraq, and has done so from the inception of both
programs. A list of activities addressing women in Afghanistan and Iraq
is attached.
In Afghanistan, the United States Agency for International
Development (USAID) assists Afghan women through directed grants to
non-governmental organizations and integration into broad programs. We
are now combining all of our smaller women's activities into multi-year
programs. Early in its Afghanistan program, USAID used small grants to
help establish the Ministry of Women's Affairs, support women's NGOs,
and provide women with job opportunities. USAID has also ensured
support for women into humanitarian programs, such as food aid. The
current program intends to establish and fund seventeen women's
centers.
In Iraq, USAID bases its reconstruction programs on the belief that
women's consent and active participation matters in politics, economic
opportunity, and social settings. Since April 1, 2003, USAID has
focused on women's equality and empowerment through local government
and civil society organizations--two avenues that allowed the most
immediate and direct impact on their lives. USAID helped build the
social structures needed to support Iraq's women with increased school
enrollment for girls and health programs aimed at mothers.
Reaction to explicit changes in women's roles typically occurs
about a year after programs begin. This implies that civil society
organizations and female leaders will be challenged in 2004 even as
they move beyond their initial footholds. To support women in the
second year of reconstruction, USAID programs allow for a sustained
approach to women's equality. In governance, legal changes will include
codifying women's rights, solidifying the role of women in government,
and supporting women's civil society organizations. Economic programs
which target women and give them new opportunities are also being
developed.
Question. Mr. Secretary, as you know, the U.S. sponsored resolution
calls on nations to eliminate laws and regulations that discriminate
against women and prevent them from participating in society and the
political process. I understand that you and your administration have
been working with leaders in both Iraq and Afghanistan to ensure that
their constitutions recognize and protect the rights of women.
According to recent reports, your administration remains confident that
the Afghan and Iraqi Constitutions ``will make acceptable provisions on
the issue of women's rights.''
It is my understanding that both constitutions contain a provision
that states that when there is a conflict between the constitution and
the law of Islam, the law of Islam is supreme. While other Islamic
nations have established systems that recognize the sanctity of
religion and the importance of human rights, what assurances to you
have that religion will not be used as a means of discrimination
against women?
Answer. None of the world's major religions, including Islam,
discriminate against women. It is traditional practices and
interpretations of religious teachings that result in discrimination.
Governments that permit women to be made subservient to men can be
expected also to make men subservient to men, and are antithetical to
democracy. There are numerous instances, not only in Islamic countries,
where conservative elements in strongly patriarchal societies attempt
to limit a recent extension of civic and economic rights to women.
Afghanistan's constitution states that ``no law can be contrary to
sacred religion of Islam and the values of this constitution,'' which
includes guarantees for the rights of women. A reliance on Islamic
jurisprudence applies only to laws or provisions not covered by the
constitution. The United States, as an external influence in Iraq and
Afghanistan, can help blunt reactionary efforts against recent gains by
women through explicit inclusion of females in governance, economic and
social programs.
Question. Last Wednesday, at a donors' conference in Berlin,
President Karzai said his country would need $28 billion over the next
seven years to fully recover from decades of war. Experts say that
without this funding, most of which will have to come from
international donors, the reconstruction efforts will likely fail.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding that our total
contribution to non-military reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan
since 2002 has been a little over $2 billion. At the same time, in one
year alone, the United States has allocated $18.4 billion for similar
reconstruction in Iraq.
Mr. Secretary, no one on this committee would suggest that
reconstruction in either of these two countries is any more or less
important than the other but in terms of strategic planning and long
term goals, these disparate allocations don't make sense.
First, if one looks at the indicators of need for non-military
reconstruction it is clear that there is a greater need for efforts in
Afghanistan than our budget reflects.
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Iraq Afghanistan
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Literacy Rate (percent)....................... 40 36
Women (perecent).............................. 29 21
Infant Mortality Rate......................... 55/1,000 143/1,000
GDP (dollars in billions)..................... $58 $19
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Second, according to a recent IG report, of the $18.4 billion we
allocated, only $900 is under contract. In other words, we are not
spending 95 percent of the money we have allocated for reconstruction
in Iraq.
These disparities may lead some to suspect that there are ulterior
motive at hand here. Can you address this criticism?
Answer. USAID programmed approximately $1 billion in fiscal years
2002 and 2003 combined and an additional $1 billion in fiscal year
2004. The Administration's ``Accelerating Success'' initiative was
intended to significantly increase both the amount and the impact of
assistance. While this is a sizeable amount, and we thank Congress for
its generosity, the needs in Afghanistan will require a sustained
commitment for the next several years.
SUBCOMMITTEE RECESS
Senator McConnell. Thank you all very much. The
subcommittee will stand in recess to reconvene at 2:30 p.m. on
Wednesday, April 21, in room SD-124. At that time we will hear
testimony from the Honorable J. Cofer Black, Coordinator,
Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism and the
Honorable Andrew Natsios, Administrator, United States Agency
for International Development.
[Whereupon, at 4:30 p.m., Thursday, April 8, the
subcommittee was recessed, to reconvene at 2:30 p.m. Wednesday,
April 21.]