[Senate Hearing 107-899] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] S. Hrg. 107-899 HOSPITAL GROUP PURCHASING: LOWERING COSTS AT THE EXPENSE OF PATIENT HEALTH AND MEDICAL INNOVATIONS? ======================================================================= HEARING before the SUBCOMMITTEE ON ANTITRUST, BUSINESS RIGHTS, AND COMPETITION of the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED SEVENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION __________ APRIL 30, 2002 __________ Serial No. J-107-76 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary U. S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 85-986 WASHINGTON : 2003 ____________________________________________________________________________ For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402-0001 COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont, Chairman EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah JOSEPH R. BIDEN, Jr., Delaware STROM THURMOND, South Carolina HERBERT KOHL, Wisconsin CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa DIANNE FEINSTEIN, California ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin JON KYL, Arizona CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York MIKE DeWINE, Ohio RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois JEFF SESSIONS, Alabama MARIA CANTWELL, Washington SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas JOHN EDWARDS, North Carolina MITCH McCONNELL, Kentucky Bruce A. Cohen, Majority Chief Counsel and Staff Director Sharon Prost, Minority Chief Counsel Makan Delrahim, Minority Staff Director ------ Subcommittee on Antitrust, Business Rights, and Competition HERBERT KOHL, Wisconsin, Chairman PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont MIKE DeWINE, Ohio RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania MARIA CANTWELL, Washington STROM THURMOND, South Carolina JOHN EDWARDS, North Carolina SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas Victoria Bassetti, Majority Chief Counsel Peter Levitas, Minority Chief Counsel C O N T E N T S ---------- STATEMENTS OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS Page DeWine, Hon. Mike, a U.S. Senator from the State of Ohio......... 4 Hatch, Hon. Orrin G., a U.S. Senator from the State of Utah...... 68 Kohl, Hon. Herb, a U.S. Senator from the State of Wisconsin...... 1 Leahy, Hon. Patrick J., a U.S. Senator from the State of Vermont. 8 Schumer, Hon. Charles E., a U.S. Senator from the State of New York........................................................... 20 Thurmond, Hon. Strom, a U.S. Senator from the State of South Carolina....................................................... 69 WITNESSES Barrett, Trisha, BSN, Assistant Director, Materiel Services, Value Analysis Facilitator, University of California, San Francisco Medical Center, San Francisco, California............ 21 Detlor, Lynn R., Principal, GPO Concepts, Inc., San Diego, California..................................................... 40 Goldstein, Mitchell, M.D., Neonatologist, Citrus Valley Medical Center, West Covina, California................................ 27 Kiana, Joe E., President and Chief Executive Officer, Masimo Corporation, Irvine, California................................ 24 McKenna, Mark, President, Novation, LLC, Irving, Texas........... 11 Norling, Richard A., Chief Executive Officer, Premier, Inc., San Diego, California.............................................. 9 Weatherman, Elizabeth A., Vice Chair, Medical Group, National Venture Capital Association and Managing Director, Warburg Pincus, LLC, New York, New York................................ 42 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS Responses of Mark McKenna to questions submitted by: Senator DeWine............................................... 76 Senator Hatch................................................ 87 Senator Leahy................................................ 71 Responses of Richard A. Norling to questions submitted by: Senator Hatch................................................ 87 Senator Leahy................................................ 71 Responses of Joe E. Kiana to questions submitted by Senator Leahy 75 SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD Brown, Thomas V., Executive Vice President, Biotronik, Inc....... 95 Cohen, Gary, President, BD Medical Systems, Becton Dickinson and Company........................................................ 90 ECRI, Jeffrey C. Lerner, President and Chief Executive Office, Plymouth, PA................................................... 110 Emory University School of Medicine, Augusto Sola, MD, Professor of Pediatrics and Obstetrics and Gynecology, Director, Division of Neonatal-Perinatal Medicine, Atlanta, Georgia, letter....... 184 Engibous, Doris, President, Nellco Tyco Healthcare, Pleasenton, CA, letter..................................................... 163 Hazen, Paul, President and CEO, National Cooperative Business Association.................................................... 157 Hipps, Julia Naumhein, RN BS..................................... 135 Holden, Larry, President, Medical Device Manufacturers Association.................................................... 144 Muris, Hon. Timothy, Chairman, Federal Trade Commission and Hon. Charles James, Assistant Attorney General, Letter.............. 142 Pevco Systems International, Inc., Frederick M. Valerino, Jr., President...................................................... 169 Saint Vincent, Catholic Medical Centers, Daved J. Campbell, President, Chief Executive Officer............................. 183 Scanlon, William J., GAO, Director, Health Care Issues........... 112 Shaw, Thomas J., President & CEO, National Cooperative Business Association.................................................... 172 HOSPITAL GROUP PURCHASING: LOWERING COSTS AT THE EXPENSE OF PATIENT HEALTH AND MEDICAL INNOVATIONS? ---------- TUESDAY, APRIL 30, 2002 United States Senate, Subcommittee on Antitrust, Business Rights, and Competition, Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:54 p.m., in room SD-226, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Herb Kohl, chairman of the subcommittee, presiding. Present: Senators Kohl, Leahy, Schumer, and DeWine. OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HERB KOHL, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF WISCONSIN Chairman Kohl. This hearing will come to order. I held it for Senator DeWine, who is unavoidably detained for just a few minutes and he requested that we proceed. Today, this subcommittee turns its attention to an issue affecting the health and safety of every American who has ever or will ever need treatment at a hospital, in other words, every one of us. This issue is how hospitals form buying groups to purchase nearly everything used by hospitals, everything from pacemakers to thermometers, from surgical devices and CAT scanners to needles and band-aids, and how these groups affect the cost and quality of patient health and medical innovation throughout our country. These guying groups, known as group purchasing organizations, or GPOs, are at the nerve center of our health care system. Because they determine what products are in our hospitals, they directly affect patient health and safety. Because they control more than $34 billion in health care purchases, they impact the cost we all pay for our health system. Because they represent more than 75 percent of the nation's hospital beds, they are a powerful gatekeeper who can cut off competition and squeeze out innovation. Gaining a GPO contract is essential for any medical equipment supplier. GPOs determine which medical devices will be used to treat us when we are sick or injured, which manufacturers will survive and prosper, and, in fact, which ones will fail. It does not do any good to invent the next great pacemaker or safety needle if you cannot get it to patients because a GPO stands in your way. With that kind of power comes responsibility. But too often, it seems that GPOs have failed to serve as honest brokers seeking to serve the best interests of hospitals and patients. We are going to detail three major concerns. First, conflicts of interest raise the specter of critical health care decisions being influenced by financial ties to suppliers. We have heard startling allegations of scandal and conflicts of interest that have infected the GPOs. Premier's chief executive received millions of dollars worth of stock options from a company with a contract supplying pharmaceutical services to Premier hospitals. His response, that he recused himself from contracting decisions with respect to the company at issue and that his financial interests were disclosed and approved by Premier's board, is good, but not good enough. He should have severed all ties to the company when he joined Premier. On another occasion, Premier steered business to a pharmaceutical supply company and thereby helped turn its $100 investment into a stake worth $46 million last year. Novation today demands that medical suppliers it contracts with sell their products on a for-profit e-commerce site in which Novation has a substantial interest and in which many of Novation's senior executives hold personal stakes. These practices, in our judgment, are appalling and should not be tolerated. We cannot accept a situation where a decision on which medical device will be used to treat a critically ill patient could conceivably or even theoretically turn on the stock holdings of a GPO executive. Second, contracting practices may reduce competition and innovation in health care and narrow the ability of physicians to choose the best treatment for their patients. In one case we know of, a hospital denied a physician permission to use a vital pacemaker for a patient on the operating table, but not yet anesthetized, and all because there was no GPO contract for that particular pacemaker. The pacemaker that was on contract that the hospital required him to use was in the midst of an FDA investigation into its effectiveness and safety. Hospitals have failed to buy safety syringes which prevent accidental needle sticks because doing so would mean buying off the GPO contract. As a result, nurses have suffered easily preventable injuries and have developed HIV and hepatitis. GPO contracting policies have created a system that keeps many good products out of circulation while enabling large manufacturers to entrench their market position. Practices such as sole sourcing, high commitment levels, which require a hospital to purchase as much as 90 percent of a product from one company in order to get the maximum discount, and bundling, which gives hospitals extra discounts and bonuses for buying a group of products, can seriously damage the ability of doctors to choose the best products for their patients and for competitive manufacturers to survive and innovate. Third, the General Accounting Office today revealed that these buying groups, whose goal, after all, is to save money, do not always get the best deal. We all support the basic purpose of GPOs, to hold down health care costs with volume purchasing. But the GAO study raises serious doubts as to whether GPOs are doing a good enough job in achieving this goal. In many cases, hospitals can get a better deal if they go outside the GPO. It seems like sometimes GPOs may produce the worst of both worlds, little savings and fewer choices. We, therefore, call on the entire GPO industry to work with us to create a code of conduct that will address these ethical problems and contracting issues. The industry should clean up its own act, and we believe they want to, but without quick and effective self-regulation, we would have to consider Congressional action. In addition, Senator DeWine and I are today writing to the Justice Department and the Federal Trade Commission to request that they reexamine their guidelines that protect GPOs from Federal antitrust scrutiny in most cases. Our goal should be to ensure that the GPO system truly achieves cost savings in the cost of medical equipment and that these savings do not come at the expense of patient health and medical innovation. We thank our witnesses for coming here to testify and we look forward to hearing their views. [The prepared statement of Senator Kohl follows:] Statement of Hon. Herb Kohl, a U.S. Senator from the State of Wisconsin Today our subcommittee turns its attention to an issue affecting the health and safety of every American who has ever, or ever will, need treatment at a hospital--in other words, all of us. This issue is how hospitals form buying groups to purchase nearly everything used by hospitals--everything from pacemakers to thermometers, from surgical devices and CAT scanners to needles and Band-Aids--and how those groups affect the cost and quality of patient health and medical innovation. These buying groups--known as group purchasing organizations or GPOs--are at the nerve center of our health care system. Because they determine what products are in our hospitals, they directly affect patient health and safety. Because they control more than $34 billion in health care purchases, they impact the cost we all pay for our health system. Because they represent more than 75 percent of the nation's hospital beds, they are a powerful gatekeeper who can cutoff competition and squeeze out innovation. Gaining a GPO contract is essential for any medical equipment supplier. GPOs determine which medical devices will be used to treat us when we are sick or injured, which manufacturers will survive and prosper--and which ones will fail. It doesn't do any good to invent the next great pacemaker or safety needle if you can't get it to patients because the GPO stands in your way. With that kind of power comes responsibility. But too often it seems GPOs have failed to serve as honest brokers seeking to serve the best interests of hospitals and patients. We have three main concerns. First: conflicts of interests raise the specter of critical health decisions being influenced by financial ties to suppliers. We have heard startling allegations of scandal and conflicts of interests that have infected the GPOs. Premier's chief executive received millions of dollars worth of stock options from a company with a contract supplying pharmaceutical services to Premier hospitals. His response--that he recused himself from contracting decisions with respect to the company at issue and that his financial interests were disclosed, and approved by, Premier's Board--is good, but not good enough. He should have severed all ties to the company when he joined Premier. On another occasion, Premier steered business to a pharmaceutical supply company and thereby helped turn its initial $100 investment into a stake worth $46 million dollars last year. Novation today demands that medical suppliers it contracts with sell their products on a for-profit e- commerce site in which Novation has a substantial interest and in which many of Novation's senior executives hold personal stakes. These practices are appalling and cannot be tolerated. We cannot accept a situation where a decision on which medical device will be used to treat a critically ill patient could conceivably or even theoretically turn on the stock holdings of a GPO executive. Second: contracting practices may reduce competition and innovation in health care and narrow the ability of physicians to chose the best treatment for their patients. In one case we know of, a hospital denied a physician permission to use a vital pacemaker for a patient on the operating table but not yet anaesthetized--all because there was no GPO contract for that pacemaker. The pacemaker that was on contract--that the hospital required him to use--was in the midst of an FDA investigation into its effectiveness and safety. Hospitals have failed to buy safety syringes which prevent accidental needle sticks because doing so would mean buying off the GPO contract. As a result, nurses have suffered easily preventable injuries and have developed HIV and Hepatitis. GPO contracting policies have created a system that keeps many good products out of circulation while enabling large manufacturers to entrench their market position. Practices such as sole sourcing, high commitment--levels--requiring a hospital to purchase as much as 90 percent of a product from one company in order to get the maximum discount--and bundling--giving hospitals extra discounts and bonuses for buying a group of products--can seriously damage the ability of doctors to choose the best products for their patients and for competitive manufacturers to survive and innovate. Third: the General Accounting Office today revealed that these buying groups--whose goal is to save money--don't always get the best deal. We all support the basic purpose of GPOs--to hold down health care costs with volume purchasing. But the GAO study raises serious doubts as to whether GPOs are doing a satisfactory job achieving this goal. In many case, hospitals can get a better deal if they go outside the GPO. It seems like sometimes GPOs may produce the worst of both worlds--little savings and fewer choices. We therefore call on the entire GPO industry to work with us to create a code of conduct that will address these ethical problems and contracting issues. The industry should clean up its own house, and we believe they want to. But without quick and effective self-regulation, we would have to consider congressional action. In addition, Senator DeWine and I are today writing to the Justice Department and Federal Trade Commission to request that they re-examine their Guidelines that protect GPOs from Federal antitrust scrutiny in most cases. Our goal should be to ensure that the GPO system truly achieves cost savings in the cost of medical equipment, and that these savings do not come at the expense of patient health or medical innovation. We thank our witnesses for testifying today and look forward to hearing their views. Chairman Kohl. I call now on my colleague and the ranking member of this subcommittee, Senator Michael DeWine. STATEMENT OF HON. MIKE DEWINE, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF OHIO Senator DeWine. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much. Let me begin by saying that I am also quite disturbed by some of what we have learned in our investigation of group purchasing organizations. There is certainly some anecdotal evidence and some indication that GPOs in some cases have strayed from their original purpose of allowing hospitals to work together to limit costs. We clearly have some specific incidents that we need to explore today, and I know we will, and we need to decide how to prevent them in the future. In addition, we need to examine the enormous changes in the medical supply marketplace and the changes that have occurred in GPOs. As medical costs have skyrocketed, many hospitals struggle on a daily basis. They struggle to reduce costs while attempting to maintain high quality health care GPOs have become an increasingly important part of this effort to reduce costs. However, I think it is fair to say that due to consolidation and other changes in the GPO system, GPOs today look very different than the system that was originally planned and contemplated. Some reports indicate that hospitals channel as much as 70 to 80 percent of their non-labor expenditures through GPOs. Within that 70 to 80 percent of purchasing, two large GPOs, Premier and Novation, handle purchasing for over 60 percent of the nation's hospitals. This level of concentration gives these two firms a very important role in the medical device market, and their buying arrangements have a tremendous impact on the market. This importance is magnified by the fact that Premier and Novation will often have only one or two suppliers on contract for a given product or product category. For the one or two suppliers who are able to make a deal with them, they are virtually assured a very big market for their products. The others, however, will face real problems in gaining access to a large or significant segment of the market. As long as these contracting and purchasing decisions are based on a reasonable mix of quality and cost factors, these outcomes are not necessarily troubling, and we have been told that, often, health practitioners do play a significant role in determining which products are placed on GPO contracts, a role which helps to assure that product quality and patient care are part of the decision. However, there are some indications that other factors have sometimes been considered, factors that have more to do with the financial health of the GPO than the health of the patient. For example, information provided to this subcommittee demonstrates that executives of some GPOs have a financial interest in companies that have been granted GPO contracts. Obviously, it is completely unacceptable for private financial interests to play any role in contracting decisions. More broadly, I am concerned about the extensive range of businesses and programs run by GPOs and the manner in which they are funded. Approximately 15 years ago, Congress gave the GPOs an exemption from the anti-kickback laws in order to allow them to collect administrative fees from suppliers. But the result of that decision is a system in which some believe the GPOs have conflicting interest and mixed incentives. It is not always clear whether GPOs are serving the hospitals who own them or the suppliers who have in some ways become their clients. We need to explore this issue today. Furthermore, Mr. Chairman, we need to examine the competitive implications of the GPO system. It is critical that we maintain a competitive environment in which new and improved medical devices are able to gain a foothold in the marketplace. However, many have complained that the GPO structure is acting as an impediment to innovation by allowing incumbent suppliers to lock in large portions of the buying market for their products. That assessment seems to have some support among those in the investment community. In fact, we will hear testimony today that investors are increasingly unwilling to fund start-ups, the kind of companies that often provide technological improvements, because the odds are stacked too heavily in favor of incumbents on GPO contracts. This is a very troubling possibility. On balance, it does seem likely that GPOs have delivered savings to hospitals. Many of the hospitals in my home State of Ohio have reported that to me, although, as the recent GAO study indicates, GPOs do not necessarily always save money for hospitals. As I have noted, legitimate questions have been raised about what impact the current structure of the GPO market is having on innovation and health care. We cannot overlook the long-term costs that we will pay, both in dollars and in quality of care, if we allow our purchasing structure to impede innovation in medical devices. So, Mr. Chairman, I look forward to hearing from our witnesses. I will closely evaluate everything that we hear today. Certainly, we must remain focused, focused on making health care affordable to all Americans. It is equally important to ensure that the system operates in a way that will provide the best possible health care for patients. As an initial step, as Senator Kohl has already indicated, the chairman and I both agree that a code of conduct addressing a number of specific practices will help address our concerns. In the meantime, Senator Kohl and I have sent a letter to the Justice Department Antitrust Division and the Federal Trade Commission asking them to examine the competitive effects of the GPO system. If, after careful evaluation, we determine that further changes are, in fact, necessary, we will work closely with all interested parties as we seek a system that will provide our hospitals with the best products at competitive prices. Thank you, Mr. Chairman Chairman Kohl. Thank you, Senator DeWine. [The prepared statement of Senator DeWine follows:] Statement of Hon. Mike DeWine, a U.S. Senator from the State of Ohio Let me begin by saying that I am also quite disturbed by some of what we have learned in our investigation of group purchasing organizations. There is certainly some anecdotal evidence, and some indication that GPOs in some cases have strayed from their original purpose of allowing hospitals to work together to limit costs. We clearly have some specific incidents that we need to explore today, and we need to decide how to prevent them in the future. In addition, we need to examine the enormous changes in the medical supply marketplace, and the changes that have occurred in GPOs. As medical costs have skyrocketed, many hospitals struggle on a daily basis to reduce costs while attempting to maintain high-quality health care. GPOs have become an increasingly important part of this effort to reduce costs. However, I think it is fair to say that due to consolidation and other changes in the GPO system, GPOs today look very different than the system that was originally contemplated. Some reports indicate that hospitals channel as much as 70 to 80 percent of their nonlabor expenditures through GPOs. Within that 70 to 80 percent of purchasing, two large GPOs, Premier and Novation, handle purchasing for over 60 percent of the nation's hospitals. This level of concentration gives these two firms a very important role in the medical device market, and their buying arrangements have a tremendous impact on the market. This importance is magnified by the fact that Premier and Novation will often have only one or two suppliers on contract for a given product or product category. For the one or two suppliers who are able to make a deal with them, they are virtually assured a very big market for their products; the others will face real problems in gaining access to a large segment of the potential market. As long as these contracting and purchasing decisions are based on a reasonable mix of quality and cost factors, these outcomes are not necessarily troubling. We have been told that often health practitioners do play a significant role in determining which products are placed on GPO contracts, a role which helps to assure that product quality and patient care are part of the decision. However, there are some indications that other factors have sometimes been considered, factors that have more to do with the financial health of the GPO than the health of the patient. For example, information provided to the Subcommittee demonstrates that executives of some GPOs have a financial interest in companies that have been granted GPO contracts. Obviously, it is completely unacceptable for private financial interests to play any role in contracting decisions. More broadly, I am concerned about the extensive range of businesses and programs run by GPOs, and the manner in which they are funded. Approximately 15 years ago, Congress gave the GPOs an exemption from the anti-kickback laws in order to allow them to collect administrative fees from suppliers. But the result of that decision is a system in which some believe the GPOs have conflicting interests and mixed incentives. It is not always clear whether GPOs are serving the hospitals who own them or the suppliers, who in some ways, have become their clients. We need to explore this issue today. Furthermore, we need to examine the competitive implications of the GPO system. It is critical that we maintain a competitive environment in which new and improved medical devices are able to gain a foothold in the marketplace. However, many have complained that the GPO structure is acting as an impediment to innovation, by allowing incumbent suppliers to lock in large portions of the buying market for their products. That assessment seems to have some support among those in the investment community. In fact, we will hear testimony today that investors are increasingly unwilling to fund startups, the kind of companies that often provide technological improvements, because the odds are stacked too heavily in favor of incumbents on GPO contracts. This is a very troubling possibility. On balance, it does seem likely that GPOs have delivered savings to hospitals. Many of the hospitals in my home State of Ohio have reported as much to me, although, as the recent GAO study indicates, GPOs do not necessarily always save money for hospitals. As I have noted, legitimate questions have been raised about what impact the current structure of the GPO market is having on innovation and health care. We cannot overlook the long-term cost that we will pay, both in dollars and in quality of care, if we allow our purchasing structure to impede innovation in medical devices. I look forward to hearing from our witnesses, and I will closely evaluate everything we hear today. Certainly we must remain focused on making health care affordable to Americans. It is equally important to ensure that the system operates in a way that will provide the best possible health care for patients. As an initial step, I agree with Senator Kohl that a code of conduct, addressing a number of specific practices, will help address our concerns. In the meantime, Senator Kohl and I have sent a letter to the Justice Department Antitrust Division, and the Federal Trade Commission, asking there to examine the competitive effects of the GPO system. If, after careful evaluation, we determine that further changes are necessary, we will work closely with all interested parties as we seek a system that will provide our hospitals with the best products at competitive prices. Chairman Kohl. Now, to our witnesses. I will introduce the seven and then we will start with their testimony. Mr. Richard Norling is Chairman and CEO of Premier, Incorporated. He joined Premier in 1997, first as Chief Operating Officer. Before that, Mr. Norling was President and CEO of Fairview Hospital and Health Care System, headquartered in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota. We have with us Mr. Mark McKenna, President of Novation. He served on the management team that structured the joint venture between VHA and UHC, resulting in the creation of Novation. Prior to joining VHA in 1987, Mr. McKenna was Director of Marketing for IMED Corporation of San Diego. Ms. Trisha Barrett is a registered nurse and Assistant Director of Materiel Services and Value Analysis Facilitator at the University of California Medical Center in San Francisco. Ms. Barrett serves on the Novation Nursing and Clinical Practice Council. Mr. Joe Kiani is the co-founder and CEO of Masimo Corporation, a privately-held medical technology company. He is also an inventor on more than 30 patents related to signal processing sensors and patient monitoring. Dr. Mitch Goldstein is a physician at the Citrus Valley Medical Center and the University of California-Irvine Medical Center. He specializes in neonatal medicine. Ms. Elizabeth Weatherman is the Managing Director of Warburg Pincus, where she has been a member of the health care group since 1988. Ms. Weatherman also serves as the Vice Chair of the National Venture Capital Association Medical Group. Mr. Lynn Detlor is the Principal of GPO Concepts, Inc. He served as President of Premier Purchasing Partners from 1986 to 1999. Mr. Detlor joined Premier through a merger with the American Health Care Systems, where he served as President. We welcome you all here today. We request that you hold your statements to five minutes. Before we commence, I would like to ask the chairman of our committee, Senator Leahy, if he has an opening statement. STATEMENT OF HON. PATRICK J. LEAHY, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF VERMONT Chairman Leahy. Mr. Chairman, just hearing your comment about keeping it brief, I just want to compliment both you and Senator DeWine. As I have said on many occasions, the two of you, the subcommittee should be a model for the rest of the Senate in the way you handle it. One, we all agree that we worry about escalating health care costs, whether you are a legislator or a provider or you are a consumer or anything else. I am concerned on this one issue: Do the GPO's contracts and other practices with large established medical and pharmaceutical supply companies keep newer and smaller companies from bringing innovative items in? Do the fees paid by suppliers to the GPOs who act as go- betweens for the hospitals exceed statutory limits? Do some GPOs have officers and employees with inappropriate connections to large medical suppliers? Should they be funded by the suppliers at all, rather than by the member hospitals? So these are the issues. I will, because of our other hearing, I will leave most of these for the record, but I do want to compliment you, Mr. Chairman and Senator DeWine, and thank you for holding this hearing. If I could put my whole statement and my questions in the record. Chairman Kohl. It will be done and we thank you for your appearing here, Senator Leahy. [The prepared statement of Senator Leahy follows:] Statement of Hon. Patrick Leahy, a U.S. Senator from the State of Arizona Escalating health care costs are a source of concern to all of us, as legislators and as health care consumers. The struggle to keep health care costs as low as possible, while ensuring that the quality of care remains high, is the Herculean task confronting our nation's health care providers and hospital administrators. In recent years, the development of Group Purchasing Organizations, or GPOs, has been heralded as an effective tool to meet this pressing need. The New York Times reported today that the General Accounting Office has just released a study concluding that hospitals do not necessarily benefit from participating in GPOs. GPOs allow hospitals to aggregate their buying power in making purchases from suppliers of medical equipment, pharmaceuticals, and the many ordinary products necessary for the daily functions of any hospital. By purchasing in bulk, the hospitals ostensibly would save money, and because the GPOs handle much of the administrative burden of dealing with the suppliers, the hospitals would then be relieved of those tasks. However, recent media reports and industry commentaries suggest there are issues we need to address in the context of GPO purchasing. I see this hearing as an opportunity for the Judiciary Committee and for the public to learn more about how GPOs operate, how they benefit hospitals, and whether there are any changes that could improve their operations. Serious questions on several topics should be answered, including:Do the fees paid by suppliers to the GPOs who act as the go-betweens with the hospitals exceed the statutory limits? Do some GPOs have officers and employees with inappropriate connections to large medical suppliers? Should the GPOs be funded by the suppliers at all, rather than by their member hospitals? Do the GPOs' contracts and other practices with large, established medical and pharmaceutical supply companies keep newer and smaller companies from bringing innovative and high-quality products into our nation's hospitals? In light of the new GAO report, do GPOs actually save hospitals money? I look forward to exploring these questions with the panel today, and I thank Senators Kohl and DeWine for their laudable and bipartisan efforts to ensure that these questions--and other important antitrust issues--are considered in this forum. I commend the chairman and the ranking member of this subcommittee for their productive working relationship. This level of cooperation should be the rule and not the exception in the Senate. Another significant effort to improve the quality and lower health care costs is the Drug Competition Act of 2001, S. 754, which was reported out of this Committee unanimously last October. Drafted in the wake of several Federal Trade Commission suits against large brand name drug makers who paid off their generic rivals to keep their lower cost drugs off the market, that bill would require that such deals be filed with the antitrust enforcement agencies. The FTC and the Justice Department would then have the tools they need--tools they have asked us for--to combat these pernicious practices which keep prescription drug costs unnecessarily high by blocking generic entry into the marketplace. But that bill has been awaiting Senate action for 6 months, the victim of a partisan anonymous hold. Such politically motivated efforts only hurt consumers, and I would hope that this body could focus on the best interests of the American people, rather than on short-term political gain. I thank the witnesses for coming before us today and I look forward to hearing their testimony. Chairman Kohl. We start with your testimony first, Mr. Norling. STATEMENT OF RICHARD A. NORLING, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, PREMIER, INC., SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA Mr. Norling. Thank you, Chairman Kohl, Senator DeWine, and Senator Leahy. I am Richard Norling, Chairman and CEO of Premier. As a former hospital CEO who spent 28 years in not- for-profit health care, I know that hospitals are under enormous pressure from Medicare, Medicaid, and other payers to deliver high quality care at the best possible price for their patients, and hospitals need all the help they can get. Premier provides them with a very important tool, namely group purchasing services. I would like to talk to the subcommittee on specifically how that works. Premier is an alliance of some 1,600 not-for-profit hospitals and health care systems, from major medical centers to small rural community hospitals. To put it simply, our mission is to do everything we can to help our not-for-profit hospital members provide the best patient care at the best possible price. We are a performance improvement organization. One important part of what we do is negotiate contracts with suppliers for our hospitals, but we are not a middleman for hospital purchasing. In addition to our contracting program, we offer many other valuable services to our hospitals. For example, Premier is the most significant health care database available in America today to help hospitals share information and implement best clinical practices. We estimate that we save our member hospitals over $1.5 billion per year through all our programs. Premier is a driving force for innovation. Premier hospital systems, like Aurora Health Care in Wisconsin, Cleveland Clinic in Ohio, demand immediate access to the newest and most effective technology. We work closely with our hospitals to identify and evaluate promising new products and processes. We have staff dedicated to tracking key medical developments to identify the very best products. Our technology assessment team's primary job is to evaluate promising new technologies with an eye towards bringing those advances into our hospitals. Our contracts give us flexibility to add breakthrough technologies regardless of the existence of existing contracts. If I can, a couple of examples with regard to our record on innovation. We regularly examine the marketplace and move rapidly to evaluate new technologies and make available under group contracts those that are real breakthrough advances. In January, shortly after the cutting-edge given imaging camera pill was launched--I have an example of that right here--our staff recognized the potential of this pill-sized device, which, after being swallowed by the patient, provides the most advanced images of the small intestine available. It is a very, very exciting technology. Within 30 days of learning that, we had a group contract with this company, the only group purchasing organization at this time with a contract of this revolutionary new product. Second point, even when a contract is already in place, we can add breakthrough products to our portfolio. In early 1999, well before Congress passed the Needle Stick Safety Act, which I might note we very strongly supported, Premier reached out to the industry for new safety products in this arena. Through our Technology Breakthroughs Program, we added three new syringes and four blood-drawing devices with safety features to expand our portfolio, all but one of these from small manufacturers. Currently, we have 96 sharps safety products categories on contract with 772 individual products available to our members. These are manufactured by 15 different companies. The facts are clear. Our contracting process is open to all suppliers and we are always interested in and actively seek out more advanced and safer products. If this were not the case, there is no doubt our member hospitals would go elsewhere. Let me emphasize how we engage those hospitals. All product selections are made with substantial clinical input by committees of people who work at our hospitals. Once they, the committees, make their decisions, we negotiate the contracts. But Premier does not purchase products, hospitals do. Our group purchasing contracts do not require our hospitals to use a contract for all of their needs in any product category. Our members can and do buy items to meet their unique needs and preferences while still getting a negotiated discount for products under group contracts. Like all GPOs, we receive administrative fees in return for our services. Our fees average 2.1 percent, well within Federal guidelines. We have no fees in excess of 3 percent involving medical products or pharmaceuticals. We do not require up-front payments, and since 1997, 67.4 percent of all administrative fees we receive through group purchasing have been distributed as cash payments or credited to Premier hospitals as incremental equity in their retained earnings. After Premier's creation in late 1995 through a three-way merger, we inherited from our predecessor organizations some practices that have figured in recent criticisms of our organization. As Premier has matured and evolved, many of those practices have been discontinued. In conclusion, we are very proud of our accomplishments in pursuing excellence in health care. We are committed to operating openly, honestly, and transparently. We intend to cooperate with the subcommittee and the health care community to explore every avenue to make our work even more effective. If there is an opportunity to improve, Senators, we will take it, and may I say that I applaud you for your proposal on the idea of an industry-wide set of ethical practices and you have Premier's absolute full support in trying to seek that common ground that I think is so important. Thank you. Chairman Kohl. We thank you, Mr. Norling. Now from Novation, we have Mr. McKenna. STATEMENT OF MARK MCKENNA, PRESIDENT, NOVATION, LLC, IRVING, TEXAS Mr. McKenna. Good afternoon, Chairman Kohl, Ranking Member DeWine, and Senator Leahy. It is my pleasure to be with you today representing over 2,300 health care organizations. I am also compelled to relay this message from our members. The value, cost savings, and other benefits they receive through Novation are necessary and crucial to their survival and to their ability to provide quality patient care in their communities. Novation was formed in 1998 by combining the group purchasing programs of VHA and the University Health System Consortium, two national health care alliances with members in all 50 States. From major academic medical centers to rural 50- bed facilities, these hospitals share a common mission of community service, a vision of continually improving the quality of care, and an imperative to operate more efficiently. These hospitals rely on us and the collective strength of their membership. Group purchasing saves hospitals hundreds of millions of dollars annually. By our estimate, last year alone, we saved our members over $1 billion by aggregating their buying power and by consequently avoiding other costs. Many hospitals, especially those serving rural communities, could not realize these savings on their own. Here is just one result of how these savings can directly improve community health and why our members value what we do. In Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin, Community Memorial Hospital saved $1.5 million over the last 2 years through purchases made by Novation contracts, and they report that these savings have helped them fund a free clinic for indigent care patients in their community. The benefits enjoyed by Community Memorial reflect a sound business model. It is a cooperative model, similar to others outside the health care sector, such as agriculture and electronics. Now, I would like to take a moment to briefly comment on Novation's business practices. I am proud of our organization and what we accomplish every day on behalf of our members. We are member-driven and rely heavily on member input in determining the needs, identifying and evaluating products, and by helping individuals share ideas and best practices. Novation provides many ways for physicians and other clinical professionals from our member organizations to guide us in administering an objective and open bid process, resulting in the selection of high-quality, low-cost products. We use over 20 member advisory councils. Our councils include more than 450 individuals from 300 health care organizations. These represent both large and small hospitals. Our contract decisions are supported by a matrix evaluation that considers safety, quality, availability, support, customer service, education, and, of course, cost. Some suppliers may provide a single product. Others provide more. But each product is chosen on its own merits through this fair, objective, and inclusive process. In fact, all our bids are posted on our public website so they are all available to all suppliers. This methodology results in low best bid, which in our definition means providing our members the highest quality products at the lowest possible costs. I should point out that many suppliers can and do take advantage of opportunities to provide contracts through Novation. In fact, approximately 25 percent of our suppliers meet the Small Business Administration's definition of a small business. One example, Triad Disposables, a small Upper Midwest company that makes alcohol preps, which won a bid over much larger competitors, proves this out. Our contracts are also flexible, allowing us to continually seek and offer new and alternative products and the latest technology. For example, our members told us that Possis Medical had an innovative device to more effectively treat blood clots, and after receiving input from members on our advisory councils, we promptly added it to our portfolio. Finally, our members can freely choose whether or not to purchase through Novation contracts, and we believe that this voluntary approach has been key to our success and greatly enhances the satisfaction of our members. They retain the freedom to choose the products that best meet their specific needs. In the time allotted, I hope I have been able to give you a sense of how group purchasing benefits hospitals and how Novation adheres to a strong, fair, and ethical process in contracting. As you know, hospitals across the country are under severe budget constraints and desperately need ways in which to reduce their costs and serve their communities. Thank you for this opportunity to tell our story. [The prepared statement of Mr. McKenna follows:] Statement of Mark McKenna, President, Novation, LLC Chairman Kohl, Ranking Member DeWine, and distinguished members of the Subcommittee, thank you for this opportunity to tell our story and share with you examples of the value we believe Novation delivers to the nation's patients and hospitals. My name is Mark McKenna. I am the president of Novation, the supply chain management company for VHA Inc. and University HealthSystem Consortium (UHC), two alliances comprised of community-owned not-for-profit hospitals and academic health systems throughout the United States. Our focus at Novation is to help the hospital members of VHA and UHC realize efficiencies and cost savings in their purchasing functions. As I'm sure you know, the environment of health care has changed dramatically in the last 10 years--through the Balanced Budget Act of 1997, staffing shortages, advances in technology, aging populations and managed care. Our nation's hospitals are facing these pressures and the rising costs of supplies, as well. At the same time, reimbursements from HMOs and Medicare continue shrinking, while many more patients are uninsured and are unable to pay at all. Hospitals are caught in the middle. Novation, as an extension of its owner alliances, works to lessen this financial pressure by helping those it serves create a more cost-efficient supply chain, while keeping quality the top priority. For example, Community Memorial Hospital, a VHA member and not-for- profit health care organization in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin, employs almost 1,300 people and provided care to more than 60,000 patients last year, including many indigent patients. By choosing to purchase quality products through Novation contracts they realized tangible costs savings of well over $700,000 in 2001, in addition to significant cost- avoidance. These savings went directly to their bottom-line and helped them maintain their community outreach and indigent care services to their community, such as their free clinic. This hospital's story is only one of many around the country. At its very core, group purchasing benefits hospitals as well as the entire health care system. As it currently stands, group purchasing brings the most value to hospitals and maintains a fair market for suppliers. All of the hospitals Novation serves are under tight budget constraints. Thousands of free standing large, medium and small hospitals--especially smaller facilities in rural areas--would experience increased costs and struggle to survive if the system was changed. Health care group purchasing was created by groups of hospitals that came together to gain efficiencies. History traces the concept of group purchasing in the health care industry to as far back as the late 1800's. However, it really didn't take hold until the late 1970's, when health care costs, specifically supply costs, were escalating at an alarming rate. Not-for-profit and academic hospitals, hurting financially, sought a way to aggregate purchasing strength to lower supply costs and to better compete with the for-profit hospital chains. By pooling their efforts, they were able to achieve more together than they could alone. VHA and UHC are organized as cooperatives and as such, return 100 percent of their cooperative income to members in cash and equity. In 2001, VHA returned approximately 32 percent of its revenue to members in cash payments. UHC distributed almost 40 percent of its revenue to members in cash payments. Members indicate that the combination of VHA and UHC's cash and equity returns, pricing, and value beyond price for products and services are superior to other alternatives. These cooperative payments and the clinical services that the alliances offer help hospitals carry out their missions. Fees also fund other services of the alliances and are utilized in board-approved initiatives such as information technology resources, research, benchmarking, educational programs, and other efforts to improve health care--things that would be too costly for hospitals to do on their own. We continue this vision of slowing rising health care costs, helping hospitals fulfill their mission of healing and saving lives. Novation serves the purchasing needs of more than 2,300 health care organizations--the members of VHA and UHC. Our company was formed in January 1998 when these two alliances created a new joint venture firm that would efficiently serve the purchasing needs of both alliances. VHA, is a nationwide network of more than 2,200 leading community-owned health care organizations and their physicians. It comprises 26 percent of the nation's community hospitals. UHC, representing most of the academic medical centers in the United States, is an alliance of 87 academic medical centers and 110 associate members. In total, VHA and UHC represent health care organizations in all 50 states. Cooperative group purchasing, as well as Novation's overall approach, are commonly recognized business models. Novation's relationships with suppliers are similar to business-to-business relationships in other industries where agents broker services such as real estate, financial services, travel and hospitality and other buying agents in the electronics and food industries. Cooperatives have served this country well. They enable their members to reap the benefits of joint endeavors while still maintaining their independence. They allow the members to own and control the business and to operate it for their benefit. Our cooperative structure is similar to other cooperatives in the farming, building, hardware and restaurant industries. Supplier-paid fees are a means by which cooperatives operate. This is the most effective way to fund our operations, given the financial constraints that most hospitals operate under. Novation receives fees from suppliers just as other cooperatives do. The amount of the fee offered is generally based upon the value placed on Novation's services by the supplier and usually varies based upon the product category. Fees are paid based on a percentage of member purchases from the agreements accessed. Our average overall fee is 2.1 percent. Of those fees that are above 3 percent, the vast majority are for NOVAPLUS agreements--our private label brand owned by VHA and UHC members. These slightly higher fees involve trademark and licensing fees. Novation, VHA and UHC are fully accountable for the fees they collect from suppliers and manufacturers and disclose all fee information to the member hospitals. The Federal Government has previously reviewed the issue of administrative fees received by group purchasing organizations from suppliers and determined that based on the benefit of these organizations to the nation's health care system, the fees they generate on behalf of their memberships should be permitted. On April 17, 1985, Richard P. Kusserow, HHS Inspector General said: ``We [HHS OIG] believe the current practice of reimbursement by vendors to group purchasing agents should be permitted . . . The use of volume purchasing through group purchasing agents clearly reduces the cost of purchases by hospitals. Therefore, we would encourage use of such arrangements regardless of the reimbursement methodology.'' Novation works as an agent on behalf of VHA and UHC hospitals, ultimately answering to them. Whereas publicly held manufacturers ultimately answer to stockholders for their financial performance, we answer to hospitals for financial performance as well as by how well we help them fulfill their missions of healing. Member satisfaction is extremely important to Novation. Half of our yearly incentive plan for all employees is based on member satisfaction. As stewards of the members' finances, the other half is based on achieving operating income goals. With significant involvement from, and on behalf of, VHA and UHC members, Novation works with medical supply companies to offer contracts for products of the highest quality at the most cost- efficient price. When comparing Novation's product portfolio to member and prospective member hospitals' supply purchasing Novation has saved VHA and UHC member hospitals approximately $2.1 billion since its inception in 1998. Dennis Barry, President and CEO of Moses Cone Health System in Greensboro, NC and chairman-elect for the board of the American Hospital Association, probably sums it up best: ``[They] bring significant value to us as an organization: better pricing for consumables and equipment than we could arrange on our own; a range of other services . . . helpful to our organization; the ability to network with other similar sized organizations throughout the country on a whole range of questions or issues.'' You will hear many benefits and aspects of group purchasing and Novation mentioned today, but the primary one to remember can be summed up in our mission statement: In partnership with VHA and UHC, Novation will deliver industry-leading supply chain management solutions that assist community-based, not-for-profit and academic hospitals in improving financial, operational and clinical performance. Novation, and group purchasing as a whole, brings tremendous value to health care. In this regard, my testimony will focus on five topics: The philosophy and ethics of Novation's overall business practices The value created by Novation's competitive ``low best bid'' process The fair, open and competitive nature of Novation's bidding process for suppliers of all sizes The flexibility of participation in our product and program offerings The clinical & operational benefits beyond group purchasing of the VHA and UHC alliances Now, I would like to tell you about the way Novation delivers value to member hospitals: Novation's Overall Business Philosophy Our overall philosophy is to deliver the greatest possible value to hospitals, keeping both quality and cost squarely in focus. This is accomplished in large part through our open competitive bid process and through extensive member input. On a more practical level, our day-to-day purpose is to offer and manage contracts with a variety of companies that provide VHA and UHC hospitals with the ability to access high quality products in a cost- efficient manner. Much of what we contract for is commodity-oriented products. Our contracting objective is to provide members with the highest quality products at the lowest total delivered cost. Recognizing the diversity of the hospitals we serve, all participation in our product agreements is purely voluntary. We seek to provide additional value to hospitals based upon their purchasing volume, commitment and ability to drive purchasing efficiencies across their respective systems. To that end, considerable attention has been given to the following elements: Involvement of VHA and UHC member representatives in the process Development of a structured process with ``high integrity'' to accommodate the competitive bid requirements of public institutions Reliance upon the business acumen and facilitation skills of staff to guide the process Because of our eight-step contract process--what we believe to be the most extensive in the industry--hospitals can have confidence that Novation ensures consistent, high-value agreements. This process is used across all departments and program areas of the company to achieve a consistent, high-value outcome. Novation's contracting process includes the following steps: 1. Identifying VHA and UHC member contract needs 2. Conducting member and market research 3. Developing and analyzing bids with councils 4. Deciding awards 5. Resolving and clarifying contract issues 6. Finalizing the award 7. Launching the agreement 8. Retaining records To determine contracting priorities, Novation relies on member input and member purchasing behavior. Through the direction of member councils, made up of clinical and procurement professionals, as well as surveys and other research, we distribute Invitations to Bid for specific product categories. These include specific questions related to member-determined specifications. Additionally, we post and maintain a bid calendar of products that are up for bid on our public web site, inviting all suppliers, large and small, to request an invitation to bid. While many manufacturers offer multiple product lines, they must submit separate bids for each product category based upon the bid calendar. Novation's supplier agreements are generally 3-year agreements with two 1-year optional extension years, exercised at the discretion of Novation and the hospital members. Member councils also help determine if an agreement is sole (one supplier) or multi-sourced (multiple suppliers.) Generally, when there is little difference in the overall award decision criteria matrix results, a multi-source award is recommended to give members more choice. ``Low Best Bid'' Contracting Process Novation is proud of its innovative ``low best bid'' approach to contracting. In fact, it is one of the first things new Novation employees learn as they are oriented into the company. Understanding the low best bid process is the key to understanding Novation's overall strategy. The concept centers around the view that hospitals derive the most value from supply agreements when other qualitative (non- financial) factors are considered rather than just the lowest price. The product with the best value for hospital members is not necessarily the product with the lowest price. The low best bid takes into account both financial and non-financial criteria. All decision criteria are established by member councils and through research and vary from product category to product category. For example, non-financial requirements might include: patient and care provider safety, customer service, product quality, clinical knowledge of company representatives, educational offerings and cost in use. Financial criteria can include price, fees and other value measures such as free goods for trial, which are deducted from the cost of the product. These criteria are entered into a matrix--what we call a Decision Criteria Award Matrix--standardizing the way decisions are made. To calculate the low best bid, the financial scores are divided by the non-financial scores for each bidder. This fair and equitable process, created with significant member involvement, ensures a mix of both high quality and cost effectiveness. Our contracting process is thorough and exhaustive. The average contract decision takes 9 months, and some take as long as 1\1/2\ years from start to finish. In addition to member-based criteria and input, the decisions take into account such things as: interviews, field trials and published literature, as well as the opinions of multiple member clinicians. Imagine the time, resources and cost associated with these activities if more than 2,000 hospitals did them individually. The entire contracting process is member-driven. As the contracting arm for the members of VHA and UHC, Novation works with prestigious hospitals around the country that employ some of the most well- respected clinical professionals. Novation seeks member input in many ways including through surveys, councils, task forces and focus groups. In fact, Novation sponsors 23 standing member councils and several other ad hoc task forces, representing more than 300 hospitals, that help shape Novation's product portfolio. Novation keeps its member-centered focus throughout its award selection process. Physicians, nurses, pharmacists, directors of operating rooms, other clinicians and materials managers from around the country are included on councils. These member councils help decide the bid criteria before the invitations to bid are even sent to suppliers. It's also important to note that Novation's highly objective and fair contracting process makes the concept of ``inherent conflicts'' practically impossible. Fees are one small part of a host of quality, non-financial and pricing criteria, which is also set by members. Mathematically alone, fees alone never drive decisions. Quality plays too important a role--as it should. Working with Suppliers of all Sizes Novation's public competitive bid process allows all eligible suppliers to participate in a fair manner. Novation welcomes competition from manufacturers as it allows us to gain better value for the members we serve. The competitive bid process and our low best bid approach, provide a level playing field for manufacturers large and small. Our bid calendar is continuously posted on our public web site to ensure the bid is open to all interested parties and those interested in receiving a bid are encouraged to request one. Of the approximately 500 suppliers contracted with Novation, 25 percent of them are small businesses, as defined by the Small Business Administration. A shining example of Novation working with a small company is our relationship with Triad Disposables, a small business based in Wisconsin. Through the contracting process, they were awarded the contract for alcohol wipes, a low-tech but vital supply for all hospitals. During the contract process, they won over other larger suppliers, including one of the largest in health care, simply because they brought the most value to the members per the decision criteria established by the members. Innovative technology suppliers, in addition to small suppliers, are found throughout our portfolio of supplier contracts. One innovator, Possis Medical, is a leader in creating a significant new medical market for the mechanical removal of blood clots with a procedure known as ``rheolytic thrombectomy.'' Soon after the FDA approved this new technology, Novation placed it on contract in September 1999, following input from members. The members involved in the decision consisted of interventional radiologists, radiology technologists, interventional cardiologists and cardiovascular administrators and nurses. Additional input was obtained through market research studies to VHA and UHC members. It is important to note the distinction between ``new'' (something not available anywhere else) and ``different'' (something similar that accomplishes the same outcome) technology. Novation is committed to providing agreements containing the latest technology to members--the competitive bid process and provisions in our contracts ensure it. Novation strives to be sensitive to continually evolving health care technology, to remain relevant to those we serve. Through our contracting process, we ensure that we contract for the technology that is most acceptable to VHA and UHC hospitals at the time of the bid award. Should technology change during the term of the agreement and the current supply partner not provide the latest technology, Novation can add other suppliers or terminate the existing agreement and put out a bid for a new agreement if the members find the technology change so substantive to deem the current agreement's offerings outdated. All agreements contain termination clauses that allow Novation to terminate the agreement with the existing supplier with 90 days written notice when necessary. An example of a supplier with a new technology being added to the portfolio is Megadyne, a small company that makes an innovative product--reusable grounding pads--used to protect patients from electrical shock. Novation already had disposable grounding pads on contract with 3M and Valley Lab. Megadyne's reusable pads employed a new technology that VHA and UHC members wanted added to the portfolio. These reusable pads are and example of ``new'' technology. An example of technology that is simply ``different'' is in the field of pulse oximetry. The selection of Nellcor over Masimo is a good example of how Novation's bid process works fairly. During the contracting process, which took almost 18 months to complete, we used enormous amounts of clinical input from members, including the active involvement of five separate member councils made up of more than 40 hospital professionals as well as survey results involving more than 850 member hospitals. Regarding the non-financial criteria, our process revealed that Masimo's technology is based on ``rhythmic and repetitive'' patient motion while Nellcor's technology is based on ``random and chaotic'' patient motion. Masimo's product was deemed to be a different technology, but not a new technology. Our clinicians gave us input that random and chaotic patient motion is a more realistic measure, especially when the patients are children and babies. Overall, in the non-financial categories, Nellcor received higher marks from clinicians than any other competitor in every single category. In the end, the results were overwhelmingly in favor of Nellcor, far above all other bid participants. Ultimately, the member councils recommended the bid award go to Nellcor. Besides meeting member standards, suppliers with new technologies also face additional challenges. Some truly ``new'' technologies must wait for FDA approval. Others are available, but must wait long periods for reimbursement approval, making them cost-prohibitive to many health care institutions. Finally, many companies with ``new'' technologies are not always interested in contracts with group purchasing organizations, believing that with no competition they can command higher pricing for their product on their own. Possibly even more telling regarding clinical input in decisions, is the support of many clinicians at VHA and UHC member hospitals following bid awards. Because participation in our contracts is voluntary, hospitals often conduct their own clinical trials on some contracted products, even after the rigorous review the Novation contracting process gives to the products. By conducting their own clinical trials, members ensure they are choosing to access the products that best meet their needs. This not only underscores the clinical decision of our member councils, but also underscores the inherent freedom of choice that member hospitals enjoy in the Novation relationship. In addition to relying on member input to keep us updated on health care technology changes, Novation's contracting staff--with significant input from Novation's field-based service delivery team--is responsible for monitoring their respective product's markets for technological advances. These staff members typically have a high degree of experience, training and expertise related to their area of responsibility--often having direct experience in these areas at provider organizations. Should a Novation staff member learn of changes in product technology, the staff member can review the impact of the technology changes with one of Novation's member councils. As a member-driven organization, it is always in the members' best interest to make sure that our agreements meet the needs of the VHA and UHC members--clinically, financially and operationally. Flexibility of Member Participation Hospital participation in Novation agreements is totally voluntary. Novation strives to offer VHA and UHC hospitals the most competitive value on the highest quality products based upon members' purchase patterns and ability to deliver volume, commitment and purchasing efficiencies. However, we also recognize that each hospital's ability to commit varies. In response, Novation offers a portfolio of agreements and programs in which organizations can freely choose to participate in, without disadvantaging those that cannot. For example, Novation offers a committed purchasing program we call OPPORTUNITY. Novation's approach to commitment is a self-selecting philosophy in which members are free to choose whether they wish to participate. We believe the voluntary nature of OPPORTUNITY has helped make it the industry's leading and most successful committed purchasing program. In addition to offering best pricing, the program helps organizations focus their efforts on further improving efficiencies through standardization and utilization. OPPORTUNITY delivers cash rewards for commitment and the potential to increase VHA's and UHC's cooperative returns. OPPORTUNITY rewards VHA and UHC hospitals that voluntarily meet previously agreed-upon commitments in designated product categories. There are no Novation programs that require 100 percent participation. Our contracts offer product coverage of about 75 percent of the total supplies the average hospital uses. So, there is 25 percent we don't have on contract at all--these products could represent fast- changing technology areas, local or regional products or large capital expenditures. Of the 75 percent product coverage we offer, VHA and UHC hospitals typically use our contracts for about 55 percent of their purchases. So, overall, VHA and UHC hospitals use Novation's services to purchase about 40 percent or less of their product needs, all of which is accessed on a voluntary basis. Hospitals choose what works best for them. The significant involvement of the councils and hospitals as a whole, play an important role in the aggregated purchasing strength of the VHA and UHC facilities. We actually see ourselves as a champion for the small rural or community hospital that would have a difficult time providing these services on their own. Through our aggregated approach, small rural and community hospitals enjoy the buying strength of large health systems. More than 700 VHA and UHC member hospitals have fewer than 100 licensed beds. According to the March 2000 Muse & Associates study, The Role of Group Purchasing Organization in the U.S. Health Care System, without Novation to contract on their behalf, these small health institutions could be spending up to 15 percent more on hospital supplies. Additionally, of our 23 member councils and task forces, about 30 percent of the participants are representatives from small hospitals with 100 beds or less. To better illustrate this, if I may quote Susan Park, Purchasing Agent of VHA member Sarah D. Culbertson Memorial Hospital in Rushville, IL, she says, ``We have limited resources, as a 58-bed facility, and Novation is always willing to work with us to meet our needs. With Novation's help, we gain the benefits of a bigger hospital that we couldn't get on our own. Through Novation, we are not little, but mighty.'' Clinical & Operational Benefits of the VHA and UHC Alliances It's important to note that health care organizations affiliate with VHA and UHC and gain access to Novation's services for a number of benefits beyond simply supply chain management. These include: nationwide collaboration on clinical improvement initiatives; high- quality educational opportunities; groundbreaking research on emerging technologies; consulting services that improve operational efficiencies; research on consumer trends; advocacy on public policy issues; and innovative services provided by VHA and UHC that might not otherwise be affordable for individual organizations or available from other sources. Alliances represent the coming together of their member organizations in areas other than purchasing. More can be done to improve the country's health through collaboration and scales of efficiency. For example, VHA recently launched the nationwide program, Women's HeartAdvantage, as part of a national initiative to change how women are treated for heart disease and to educate women about their own risks for heart disease. VHA is collaborating with hospitals across the Nation to implement the first hospital-based program to address heart disease, which is the greatest health threat to women. To address this largely unrecognized health crisis, VHA conducted nationwide and market-specific benchmarking research on the attitudes and awareness among women about heart disease. Interval results from the Yale-New Haven Hospital demonstration program revealed that after 10 months of the Women's HeartAdvantage program, awareness significantly increased from 26 percent to 39 percent. In fact, already we know it's helped save at least one life. After experiencing chest pain, a patient mentioned to her doctor that she had read about Yale-New Haven's participation in Women's HeartAdvantage. The symptoms she read about reminded her of her own discomfort. She was sent to the hospital, where doctors performed an emergency balloon angioplasty, and she's doing fine. Likewise, UHC helps members identify standards of excellence among academic health centers and community providers so that members can achieve optimal quality and productivity. UHC's improvement and effectiveness services focus on enhancing practice management, improving members' clinical and operational performance, and providing the support and resources for effective clinical decisionmaking. UHC's benchmarking projects use data-driven processes to identify models of efficiency and best practice, share up- to-date information, and initiate effective, long-term clinical and operational improvements. A recent benchmarking study focused on ischemic strokes. Participating hospitals reported current patient care protocols for treating stroke victims. UHC compiled and reviewed the information and produced a report that identified best practices in patient care. The University of Utah Hospitals and Clinics was one of the stroke project participants. Using the findings from the UHC study, the hospital's staff formed a clinical ``brain attack team'' of physicians, nurses and pharmacists. The team reviewed the findings and modeled their response and treatment patterns on better performers' practices. Since implementing their new response protocols, they have experienced improved outcomes with many of their stroke patients. Attention to safety is also a vital initiative. Novation's comprehensive safety initiative promotes and enhances patient, care provider and environmental safety. Through this initiative, Novation increases member awareness of its safety-related contracted products; promotes and tracks supplier-sponsored safety initiatives; obtain member input on safety projects through councils; and incorporates safety specifications into the contract process. Our quality assurance/ regulatory affairs team ensures the delivery of safe and effective products by conducting manufacturing inspections and audits of supply partners, monitoring customer complaints and enforcing all regulatory guidelines. During 1999 and 2000, 25 VHA and UHC member organizations participated in the Novation Education in Anesthesia Techniques program. This program is an anesthesia clinical simulation training program offered by Novation's anesthesia business unit. The initiative was presented, reviewed and supported by the Novation Anesthesia Advisory Council which consists of clinicians such as nurses and pharmacists. This program allows organizations to receive a free, cutting-edge and accredited training program for anesthesiologists, nurses and pharmacists. Nine out of ten participants felt that their clinical staff gained enhanced clinical knowledge from the program. Multiple clinical participants wrote to us following the program. One letter from a physician and professor at the University of Minnesota said the program was ``tremendously successful educationally for medical students, residents, fellows, anesthetists and staff.'' Additionally a fourth-year medical student that attended the program wrote to us saying: ``I attended a training session on the identification and treatment of a tension pneumothorax. The very next morning, one of our patients developed a tension pneumothorax in the PACU. After the incident, when the resident began asking questions about how to treat this condition, I was able to answer correctly.'' Additionally, VHA and UHC, operational efficiency solutions are offered to hospitals through [email protected], Novation's Internet information solution containing a members-only Web site and e-commerce services for hospitals and suppliers. Hospitals can access contract and program information, publications and other Novation supply chain tools. In the late 1990s, VHA and UHC members strongly indicated a need and a desire for electronic health care procurement. VHA and UHC's strategic investment in Neoforma to build [email protected] ensures that members have easier access to innovative technologies and reduces members' development costs for these services. The health care industry is large, fragmented and surprisingly behind in the information arena. Easily accessible information available to all parties in the supply chain is non-existent. In 1995, the industry-wide study, ``Efficient Healthcare Consumer Response'' stated that by addressing current inefficiencies in the supply chain, $11 billion of additional savings could be realized by America's hospitals. Despite the industry's best efforts to try to address these issues, very little was accomplished. The evolution of the Internet and the 2001 study, ``The Value of e-Commerce in the Healthcare Supply Chain'' identified specific steps we can take to achieve potentially 2- 10 percent savings and help hospitals accelerate the technology timeline to reach supply chain efficiencies enjoyed by other industries. Those steps are the guiding development principles behind the [email protected] [email protected] is an evolution of our core competency of aggregating purchases to reduce supply costs. The Internet makes it possible to streamline the process, create new efficiencies and connect existing information systems to perform productive new activities. [email protected] will enable members to purchase virtually all their supplies through our e-commerce services. In fact, any supplier-- both those with and without Novation agreements--can post all of their product information on [email protected] just those products on contract--to allow greater visibility. These services will allow members and suppliers to automate current manual purchasing processes. It will reduce administrative costs by aggregating purchasing information across all health care organization sites. [email protected] is a logical extension of what we already do for VHA and UHC members--deliver value. As it grows and develops, [email protected] is proving to be successful. In just over a year since its first member hospital went online, [email protected] has seen dramatic increases in the transaction volume and rapid hospital and supplier adoption. Currently, more than 700 VHA and UHC hospitals and almost 240 supply and distribution companies have signed on to participate in [email protected] e-commerce services. This leading supply chain solution facilitates the efficient exchange of information with hospitals and their suppliers for the procurement of goods and services, resulting in streamlined processes, reductions in administrative costs and more efficient healthcare purchasing. Conclusion Safety, quality patient care and good stewardship of resources are the top priorities of the hospitals and health care professionals we serve. Their passion, commitment, and insight are transferred to us through their involvement in everything we do as a company. We are dedicated to helping hospitals around the country realize significant efficiencies and cost-savings--the underlying reason for the existence of group purchasing organizations. In today's health care environment of tight budgets, these savings are invaluable in allowing hospitals the breathing room to have resources for safe and quality patient care, providing indigent care, hiring practitioners, providing community outreach programs and offering the best services most effective to better the health of our nation. On behalf of Novation, VHA, UHC, their hospitals and their patients, I deeply appreciate the opportunity to share with you of the value and benefits we bring to public and community-owned hospitals around the United States. Chairman Kohl. Before we proceed further, I would like to ask Senator Schumer, who is on a very tight schedule, to make his always very brief and concise statement. [Laughter.] OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. CHARLES E. SCHUMER, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF NEW YORK Senator Schumer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to thank you for squeezing me in right now and, more importantly, for your leadership, and I thank Ranking Member DeWine, as well. What I want to do is just ask that my statement be added into the record, my whole statement, to make the point, of course, that health care costs are out of control. We have to find solutions to this. I think it is very important that all of us keep in mind that GPOs, in concept, are not all a bad thing. They perform a valuable service by permitting hospitals to buy supplies more effectively, and when hospitals can purchase quality equipment at cheaper prices, consumers save money. Now, health care bills are soaring. We know that. Savings cannot come at the cost of the quality of care. So the balance we need to strike at this hearing today is important. We have to not throw out the baby with the bathwater, look at the concept of GPOs and understand why they are needed, see if how business has been conducted works--there have been some serious allegations that it has not--and I look forward to, Mr. Chairman, not only to your hearing, but knowing your thoughtful diligence and persistence at these issues, to help you come up with whatever solutions might make things a little better. Chairman Kohl. Thank you, Senator Schumer. Senator Schumer. Thank you. I apologize. This committee always has a lot of things going and we have the bankruptcy conference, as well, but I wanted to come in here, so thank you. I appreciate it. Chairman Kohl. Thank you for coming. [The prepared statement of Senator Schumer follows:] Statement of Hon. Charles E. Schumer, a U.S. Senator from the State of New York Mr. Chairman, thank you for squeezing me in to make a few brief remarks. As you know because of all the work you've done on the bill, we're trying to work out the final details in the bankruptcy legislation that's in conference. But I did want to take a couple of moments out of that process to say a few words here. It's no secret that health care costs in this country are spiraling way out of control. An ever increasing percentage of Americans' monthly income is going to pay absurdly high health care bills. We need to find solutions to this problem that will only get more serious as the baby boomers move into their later years. One area that I've been looking at is prescription drugs. Senator McCain and I have a bill that would make generic drugs more broadly available and reduce patients' reliance on high-priced drugs from the big pharmaceutical companies. Passing that bill would be a start, but only a start. In the past few months there's been a lot of debate about the role of group purchasing organizations in the health care system. As you mentioned in your statement, the New York Times ran a front page article raising some serious questions about the practices of certain GPOs and I'm pleased to see that they're here today to give some answers to those questions. As we examine the problems, it's important for all of us to keep in mind that GPOs, in and of themselves, are not a bad thing. They perform a valuable service by permitting hospitals to buy supplies more affordably. When hospitals can purchase quality equipment at cheaper prices, consumers save money. Not to put too fine a point on it, but lower operating costs lead to lower-cost operations. With health care bills soaring through the roof, every dollar counts. But savings can't come at the cost of quality care. That's the balance we need to strike and this hearing today is important because it will examine both the problems with and the advantages of using GPOs. Government shouldn't jump in with fixes to problems that industry can clean up on its own. That's why I'm so pleased to hear that the GPOs have committed to creating their own code of conduct which, we trust, will resolve the concerns that have been raised about the ways GPOs operate. Mr. Chairman, I know that you share my view on that issue and I believe that holding this hearing, focusing attention on these issues, and taking a constructive approach to solving the problems you're highlighting here is just the kind of limited government intervention that serves our constituents well. I look forward to reading the testimony of everyone here and to reviewing your answers to the questions posed. I apologize for not being able to stay to participate, but duty on the bankruptcy bill calls. Chairman Kohl. Now, we proceed to Ms. Trisha Barrett. STATEMENT OF TRISHA BARRETT, BSN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MATERIEL SERVICES, VALUE ANALYSIS FACILITATOR, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN FRANCISCO MEDICAL CENTER, SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA Ms. Barrett. Chairman Kohl and Senator DeWine, it is a pleasure to be with you this afternoon to share my perception of how our hospital benefits from its association with Novation. My name is Trisha Barrett. I am the Value Analysis Facilitator for the University of California-San Francisco Medical Center, a member of UHC, where my responsibilities include the clinical coordination for product selection and standardization. I have been a nurse for 25 years. Previous to joining UCSF, I served in a similar capacity at a VHA facility. I have thus served on the Novation Nursing Council as both a VHA and a UHC member representative. I am proud to serve an organization like UCSF Medical Center, where our mission focuses on caring, healing, teaching, and discovering. UCSF Medical Center is a 500-bed academic hospital. Annually, we perform over 20,000 surgical procedures and provide literally tens of thousands of days of care. To meet this demand, we maintain a product and device inventory anywhere from 20,000 to 30,000 items. Recently, we were named one of the top ten hospitals by U.S. News and World Report. Beyond the daily challenges of providing care and saving lives, America's hospitals face nursing shortages, constraints imposed by managed care, and important patient and health care worker safety issues. Overshadowing these challenges is financial pressure due to ever-rising costs of pharamceuticals, supplies, devices, and equipment. While Medicare, Medicaid, and private payer reimbursements go down, the cost of health care continues to rise. Novation helps our organization remain financially viable, allowing us to place our energies where they belong, on patient care. We spend about $120 million each year for supplies, 50 percent of that through Novation contracts. The remaining 50 percent is spent on products that are not on contract or on products that may compete with Novation contracts, but our clinicians choose to use them. That is one of the good things about Novation. Use of their services and product contracts are voluntary. However, we do use Novation agreements whenever we can because they bring value to UCSF Medical Center. The Medical Center benefits from my participation in councils and task forces because it provides a forum where I am able to provide clinical expertise and product experience in the formation and analysis of Novation contracts. Clinicians like me from across the country gather and collaborate to share our experience, reach consensus, and advise Novation in structuring and awarding contracts that we know will best meet the needs of our patients and our staff. For example, I am currently working with fellow clinicians throughout the country to establish quality criteria for the upcoming IV catheter bid. We clinicians share our experiences and opinions to formulate catheter quality and supplier service criteria. For instance, many hospitals have lost on-site nurse educators, either to national nursing shortage or to financial constraints. Therefore, educational support will be a high priority for the supplier we choose, that the supplier will be able to provide 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week training during conversion from old product to new. These discussions lead to consensus and advice that make the final bid award a good one. It is important to note that as clinicians who actually use medical products to treat, heal, and save lives, we place a high priority on product quality and performance in our discussions and our decisions. I take my role as a health care professional very seriously, so when I was invited to participate on the Novation Nursing Council in 1999, I welcomed the opportunity. Being a council member is something I do above and beyond my day-to-day responsibilities at UCSF and often involves being away from my family. However, having the opportunity to assist Novation in contracting for the highest quality, most clinically acceptable products available on behalf of our patients makes it all worthwhile. More importantly, I can trust in other Novation contracts because I know there are hundreds of others like myself working on other member councils. I have the privilege of assisting some of the best doctors and nurses in the country at UCSF. With that privilege comes the moral and legal responsibility to invest the hospital's funds wisely. When selecting products, I ask my fellow clinicians to think of these funds as they would their own family budget. There has been a perception that member hospitals are a passive third party when these awards are made. Nothing could be further from the truth. At each individual facility, the hospital must evaluate Novation's offering, committed or not, on its clinical and financial merits. In closing, I would suggest that the members of the committee proceed very carefully in considering any new laws that could potentially place additional financial pressure on an already fragile health care system. Without companies like Novation, I am concerned that hospitals, and ultimately patients, would pay more for health care. In addition, we in hospitals would be forced to dedicate significant additional resources to contracting, diverting those precious resources away from care at the bedside. Thank you. Chairman Kohl. Thank you for your statement, Ms. Barrett. [The prepared statement of Ms. Barrett follows:] Statement of Trisha Barrett, Value Analysis Facilitator, University of California, San Francisco Medical Center Chairman Kohl, Senator DeWine, and distinguished members of the Subcommittee, it is a pleasure to be with you this afternoon to share my perspective of how our health care organization benefits from its association with Novation. My name is Trisha Barrett and I am the Value Analysis Facilitator for the University of California, San Francisco Medical Center--a member of University HealthSystem Consortium (UHC)--where my responsibilities include the clinical coordination for product selection and standardization. I have been a nurse for 25 years. Previous to joining UCSF, I served in similar capacity for Alta Bates Summit Medical Center in Berkeley and Oakland California, a member of VHA. I have thus served on the Novation Nursing and Clinical Practice Council as both a VHA and UHC member representative. I am proud to serve in an organization like UCSF Medical Center where our mission focuses on caring, healing, teaching and discovering. UCSF Medical Center is a 500-bed academic hospital, located in northern California that employs 5,500 health care professionals. Annually, we perform 20,000 surgical procedures, and provide tens of thousands of inpatient and outpatient days of care. To meet this demand, we maintain a product and device inventory of anywhere from 20,000 to 30,000 different items. Recently, we were named one of the top ten hospitals in the Nation by U.S. News and World Report. Beyond the daily challenges of providing care and saving lives, America's healthcare organizations face shortages of nurses, constraints imposed by managed care, patient and healthcare worker safety issues, the aging of the baby boomer generation and more. Overshadowing these challenges is financial pressure due to the ever- rising costs of pharmaceuticals, supplies, devices and equipment. While Medicare, Medicaid and private payer reimbursements go down, the cost of health care continues to rise. Novation helps our organization remain financially viable, allowing us to place our energies where they belong--on patient care. We spend about $120 million each year for supplies--50 percent of that through Novation contracts. We at UCSF choose to access just over 50 percent of the Novation contracts available to UHC hospitals. The remaining 50 percent is spent on products that are not on contract, or on products that may compete with Novation's contracts that our clinicians choose to use instead. That's one of the good things about Novation--use of their services and product contracts are voluntary. However, we do use Novation agreements whenever we can because they bring value to UCSF Medical Center. The Medical Center benefits from my participation on councils and task forces because it provides a forum where I am able to provide clinical expertise and experience in the formation and analysis of Novation contracts. Clinicians like me from hospitals across the country gather and collaborate to share our experience, reach consensus, and advise Novation in structuring and awarding contracts that we know will best meet the needs of our patients and staff. For example, I am currently working with fellow clinicians throughout the country to establish quality criteria for the IV catheters bid. Clinical council members share our experiences and opinions during meetings and conference calls where we discuss IV catheter quality criteria and supplier service criteria. We recently discussed the need for the supplier to support hospitals with education and training. Many hospitals have lost onsite nurse educators either to the national nursing shortage or to financial constraints. Educational support is a high priority for the supplier we choose--that they be able to provide training 24 hours a day 7 days a week during conversion from old product to new. These meetings and discussions lead to consensus and advice that makes the final bid a good one and also makes it satisfying to participate on the councils and task forces. It is important to note that as clinicians--who actually use medical products to treat, heal and save lives--we place a high priority on product quality and performance in our discussions and decisions. I take my role as a health care professional very seriously, so when I was invited to become a part of Novation's Nursing and Clinical Practice Council in 1999, I welcomed the opportunity. Being a member of a council is something I do above and beyond my current responsibilities at UCSF and involves being away from my family periodically. However, having the opportunity to assist Novation in contracting for the highest quality, most clinically acceptable products available on behalf of patients makes it all worth it. More importantly I can trust in other contracts because I know there are hundreds of others like myself working on the other member councils. I have the privilege of assisting some of the best doctors, nurses and other healthcare professionals in the country. With that privilege comes the moral and legal responsibility to invest the organization's funds wisely. I ask fellow clinicians to think of these funds as they would their own family budget. When possible, we use Novation contracts. Beyond that, we concentrate our own hospital resources at searching and bidding for those items our care providers need that are not on contracts or offered by suppliers who choose not to participate in Novation bids. In closing, I would suggest that the members of the committee proceed very carefully in considering any new laws that could potentially place additional financial pressure on an already fragile health care system. Without companies like Novation, I am concerned that health care organizations, and ultimately patients, would pay more for health care. In addition, we would be forced to dedicate significant additional resources toward contracting, diverting precious resources away from the delivery of care. Thank you. Chairman Kohl. Now, we are going to hear from Joe Kiani, who is a co-founder and CEO of a privately-held medical technology company. Thank you for being here. STATEMENT OF JOE E. KIANI, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, MASIMO CORPORATION, IRVINE, CALIFORNIA Mr. Kiani. Thank you, Chairman Kohl and Ranking Member DeWine. Good afternoon. We are happy to be here to testify. We thank you. Masimo is a typical American start-up company. Our goal was to make a contribution to humanity by improving care and reducing cost of care. We also wanted to become financially independent and reward investors who invested in our dream. Masimo actually started very humbly in our garage. I took a loan, a second loan on my home, and since then, $90 million has been invested in Masimo by some of the leading health care investors in this country. Masimo has developed the next-generation pulse oximetry. Pulse oximetry, in case you do not know--we have lived this for 14 years--is the non-invasive monitor to measure oxygen in the blood, and it is important, because if your blood oxygen drops below normal, within three minutes, you can get brain damage, and within five minutes, you can die. On neonates, there is an additional problem. If they get too much oxygen, they can get eye damage. Masimo is the innovator in the industry. The problems that were thought to be inherent limitations with pulse oximetry, we solved. These were problems of motion artifact, like you would see with babies moving or agitated patients in the intensive care unit or recovery room, and maybe just as importantly, very sick patients have very low perfusion, which means very low blood flow. In fact, there have been over 50 clinical studies over the last several years by independent researchers across the country that have proved that Masimo SET is indeed superior and it has improved care and reduced costs. But you gentlemen do not need to decide that here. We understand your role as policy makers is to not favor any company, but to foster a free market. We are not asking for special treatment. We are just asking for you to show oversight on this and help us compete in a free market. We believe there needs to be reform because there is a system here that precludes innovative devices to get to the hands of the clinicians who are the best to know what is best for the patients, and this is happening at the expense of not only manufacturers like ours, but expense of clinicians, patients, and payers. The fact that our primary competitor, who owns more than 90 percent of the pulse oximetry market, can pay group purchasing organizations to exclude Masimo from the market is dead wrong. It is not good for Masimo and it is not good for the society. The title of the hearing is, ``Hospital Group Purchasing: Lowering Costs at the Expense of Patient Health and Medical Improvements?'' I presume this title assumes that GPOs are saving money. I do not understand how they can save money when they exclude competition in most instances. My dad used to say to me, to keep your honest neighbors honest, lock your front door. Well, with very good intentions, Congress left the door open in 1986 and allowed kickbacks to be paid by suppliers to group purchasing organizations. I guess in a polite world, those are not called kickbacks, they are called administration fees, marketing fees, other types of fees. GPOs, and when I mean GPOs, I am talking about the most powerful group purchasing organizations like Novation and Premier, are using this policy to enrich themselves and a few companies by selling them exclusivity and market share, to these powerful companies. Their strategy is to maximize the group purchasing organizations' and these companies' revenues at the expense of vendors, hospitals, patients, and payers, and as you very well know, government is one of those payers and pays over 40 percent of health care expenditures. Why have we concluded this? For 4 years, we have had direct experience dealing with Premier and Novation, who we believe actually control over 70 percent of U.S. hospitals' purchasing. There has been a systematic pattern of exclusion of competition by sole-source contracting, by bundling, by questionable tactics, which include threatening manufacturers of Masimo-type devices, the same manufacturers that actually are current, or some of them are still current GPO contractees, with expulsion if they show Masimo technology to their member hospitals. We discovered the hard way that the breakthrough process, the breakthrough technology process, or the technology assessment process, is a sham. I have specific examples that I will be happy to share with you here today and I welcome your questions on that. Is this all sour grapes? There is an exhibit I would like to show you. I think it is important, if you will allow us, Chairman Kohl, to show it. Let us look at this exhibit. Masimo has 100 percent success rate in the free markets. In the magenta, you see the sole- source GPOs. In the yellow, you see the free markets. Last year, we did not lose one deal, we did not lose one opportunity at a hospital that was in a free market. AmeriNet is actually one GPO who has allowed Masimo in contract, and we are grateful of that. They are acting differently. They do believe members should have choice and voice and they do believe in bringing value. Then also, independent hospitals, zero. I did not expect to see the statistics, Chairman Kohl, but we lost zero. At the same time, we lost 48 contracts, 22 at Premier, 24 at Novation, and 22 at Consorta. These are all sole-source contractees with Tyco-Nellcor, who is the 90 percent market share competitor of ours. As you can see, in hospital-wide conversions, what that means, these are hospitals that chose that every one of their patients should have access to Masimo SET, in the free markets, over 50 percent of those hospitals chose to have every patient there be monitored with our technology. As you can see, the sole-source environment, in Novation, we did have some success, 10 percent, but those happen to be the most famous institutions, like Massachusetts General Hospital, where they are not easily bullied by such tactics. Thank you. We are not just an anecdote. I know some would like you to believe that, but Masimo's story is just one of many, just one example. Chairman Kohl, there are numerous other companies--I can go from A to Z, companies like Applied Medical, Biotronics, Retractable Technologies, St. Jude Medical, and Utah Medical-- that suffer the same problems that I am talking about today. The current system for group purchasing organizations like Premier and Novation sell markets and exclusivity to group selling organizations, these big companies I big call them, has a negative impact on health care. Many companies are exploiting the system to exclude competition. Competition and innovation is, therefore, stifled. Prices are artificially kept high. Patient care is being harmed. Today, it is the best pulse oximetry, the best pacemaker, the best safety needle, but tomorrow, it could be the best cancer treating medication that is kept out. We need a solution. The solution should restore free market. I have my own. I would be happy to share with you what my recommendations for those solutions are. But we believe competition is not only the key to innovation and improved health care, but as one hospital purchasing manager has put on his walls, he put, ``Competition is the mother of lower prices.'' So I would be happy to answer your questions and I thank you for this opportunity. Chairman Kohl. Thank you for your testimony today, Mr. Kiani. Now, we move on to Dr. Mitchell Goldstein, a physician at the Citrus Valley Medical Center at the University of California, Irvine Medical Center. He specializes in neonatal medicine. Dr. Goldstein. STATEMENT OF MITCHELL GOLDSTEIN, M.D., NEONATOL- OGIST, CITRUS VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER, WEST COVINA, CALIFORNIA Dr. Goldstein. Good afternoon. Thank you for inviting me to testify today. I am Dr. Mitchell Goldstein. I am a practicing neonatologist and clinical researcher in southern California. I am here because I have become concerned that products offering improved care and potentially decreased costs are being kept from reaching patients due to purchasing constraints. GPOs operate in the middle ground, selectively contracting with manufacturers and supposedly providing discounted pricing to hospitals. Pulse oximeters' incessant beeping and alarming were more of a distraction than a useful clinical tool when I started practice. During one outbreak of retinopathy prematurity, a disease caused by too much oxygen given to premature infants, an associate of mine went through the neonatal intensive care unit, shutting off every oximeter in the room. The devices were the cause of inappropriate oxygen administration. This was the beginning of my interest in improving this technology. Since 1994, I have conducted several studies on pulse oximetry. I found a 90 percent reduction in false alarms in neonatal patients using Masimo technology. Looking at the independent studies, Masimo SET has been shown to be overwhelmingly superior to its competition. Masimo SET has not been placed on the GPO's availability list. Those of us physicians who have tried to lobby for purchase of Masimo SET in GPO-dominated hospitals have dealt with the incessant smoke and mirrors techniques. One former associate of mine in an area children's hospital has indicated in a national neonatal forum that his hospital's GPO contract prevents them from acquiring more than a certain percentage of Masimo pulse oximeters. His hospital has also requested that he not speak publicly about these constraints. Several years ago, I was involved in the care of a newborn several weeks of age. The baby came to the emergency room in extreme condition. The skin was blue. Resuscitation was begun. The conventional monitors gave no indication of improvement. The pulse oximeter could not measure the infant's oxygen saturation. No amount of effort appeared to improve the situation. The nurses and respiratory therapists questioned the wisdom of continuing the resuscitation. I attached a novel new oximeter that we had only because of our research. We finally had a number to work with. If not for the presence of the Masimo pulse oximeter, life- sustaining efforts would have been discontinued. At this hospital, the same pulse oximeters that did not work are still in use. GPO-related incentives prevented the introduction of a better product. Another oximeter's failure nearly cost several small premature babies' lives. In one case, this device reported a near-perfect saturation when the baby had no oxygen in the blood at all. While these occurrences have been reported to the manufacturer and subsequently to the FDA, these oximeters are still in clinical use in this particular hospital. Why? Because despite the manufacturer's admission that the oximeter was not designed to work in this type of situation, a GPO-mandated contract stipulates that this hospital cannot engage in contracting to purchase another manufacturer's pulse oximeters. Bunnel Incorporated produces a state-of-the-art newborn ventilator that prevents chronic lung disease by delivering very fast but very small ventilator breaths. An innovative device with improved ventilation and better monitoring has been put on the shelf because of lack of funding. The reason? Venture capitalists will not advance the funds necessary to continue the development of the ventilator because the manufacturer does not have an existing relationship with any of the GPOs. Efforts to produce a ventilator for adults have met with similar outcome. The GPOs have not only restricted market access, but have discouraged and prevented research and development of newer innovative technologies. Another ventilator company, Infrasonics Corporation, with an innovative line of ventilators with promising clinical results, was unable to capture sufficient market share to remain viable due to GPO contracting. Utah Medical Products makes special newborn central line catheters designed to reduce complications. In some hospitals, these catheters are smuggled in or kept under lock and key because they are prohibited under the GPO contract. Physicians are discouraged from officially approaching the vendor for in- hospital competitive trials. Who is it, after all, that decides which equipment is covered by the GPO contracts? What criteria are used? What happens to the research and development process? If the proper equipment is not made available, how does the individual patient suffer? In my field, the answer is clear. Take away the incentive to develop newborn-appropriate devices, pulse oximeters, ventilators, catheters, and other equipment, develop only for the highly profitable product lines, cater to the lowest common denominator, and patient care will be compromised, the point that babies go blind from being exposed to inappropriate amounts of oxygen, flail helplessly while convulsing on ventilators designed principally for adults, and once again, lose their lives to the ravages of premature lung disease. As physicians, we weigh thoroughly our choices for care and medical therapeutics. Where medical care has become subservient to contracting demands, our ability to practice medicine is curtailed. Innovation deferred, health care denied. Give us the option, the freedom of choice to select the medical equipment that will most adequately meet our patients' needs at the best possible price. Thank you very much. Chairman Kohl. We thank you very much, Dr. Goldstein. [The prepared statement of Dr. Goldstein follows:] Statement of Mitchell Goldstein, M.D., Neonatologist, Citrus Valley Medical Center Patient care is dependent on the availability of equipment designed specifically to meet patient needs. The individual needs of patient care are often subservient to the contracting demands of institutions. Without doubt, the need to decrease cost is a powerful drive to achieving better access to health care. A better balance sheet allows a hospital to more efficiently meet its needs. Group Purchasing Organizations operate in the middle ground selectively contracting with manufacturers and supposedly providing discounted pricing to hospitals. However if the equipment available doesn't provide for the individual needs of the patient, at what price is cost savings achieved? During my training and early practice as a Neonatologist, pulse oximeters (devices designed to measure the amount of oxygen in the blood) had been more than a casual annoyance. The incessant beeping and alarming of the non-functional devices were more of a distraction than a useful clinical tool. During one outbreak of retinopathy of prematurity (blindness caused by too much oxygen given to premature infants) an associate of mine went through the neonatal intensive care unit, shutting off every oximeter in the room. These devices were the cause of inappropriate oxygen administration. Several weeks later I was discussing our frustration with a manufacturer of newborn hospital equipment and expressed my concern that no one in the field was working to enhance the State of the art. He gave me contact numbers for Masimo. This was the beginning of my interest in their technology. Since 1994, I have been involved in clinical studies with Masimo Signal Extraction Technology (SET) pulse oximeters. My early studies demonstrated the practicality of a ``Novel Pulse Oximeter Technology Resistant to Noise Artifact and Low Perfusion'' and that this technology was . . . ``Capable of Reliable Bradycardia (low heart rate) Monitoring in the Neonate''. Subsequently, I was able to demonstrate a 90 percent reduction in false alarms in neonatal patients using Masimo technology. I showed that ``Conventional Pulse Oximetry Can Give Spurious Data in a Neonatal Population at Risk for Retinopathy of Prematurity (ROP),'' demonstrated the feasibility of reliable pulse oximetry operation during neonatal transport, and revealed that Masimo SET reliably tracks neonatal heart rate variability. We investigated and concluded that ``Selective Inattention to Pulse Oximetry Alarms is Unsafe in Infants at Risk for Apnea of Prematurity''. In studying Nellcor alarm management technology, SatSeconds, we showed that in an effort to limit ``nuisance'' alarms, the Nellcor N-395 misses relevant desaturations and jeopardized the detection of the infant at risk for sudden infant death syndrome. Other groups have looked critically at the emerging pulse oximeter technologies. Dr. Barker has shown significantly fewer missed true events and false alarms using Masimo SET technology in adults. He has demonstrated that Masimo SET is on the top of the curve relative to performance when compared to other oximeter technologies using a model of motion and low perfusion. Dr. Torres's group has shown the failure rate of the Nellcor 395 to be four times that of Masimo SET. Dr. Brouillete has shown that Masimo SET is more accurate for monitoring breathing obstruction during sleep in children and that the Nellcor 395 is not adequate for a sleep laboratory setting. Dr. Hay has shown decreased false alarms, missed true events, and measurement failures by Masimo SET relative to other technologies. Dr. Sola has demonstrated a significant decrease in retinopathy of prematurity. Overall looking at major independent studies, Masimo SET has been shown to be overwhelmingly superior to its competition. Despite this plethora of evidence, Masimo SET has not been placed on the GPO's availability list. Those of us physicians who have tried to lobby for purchase of Masimo SET in GPO dominated hospitals have dealt with the incessant ``smoke and mirror'' techniques. One former associate of mine at an area Childrens Hospital has indicated in a national neonatal forum that his hospital's GPO contract prevents them from acquiring more than a certain percentage of the ``superior'' Masimo SET oximeters. His hospital has also requested that he not speak publicly about these constraints. Dr. Sola's experience, as reported in the New York Times article, caused him to question the entire buying process. ``In country with freedom of choice, this was the hardest thing for me to understand,'' said Dr. Sola. ``If the baby was choosing consciously, we know what the baby would choose.'' Several years ago, I was involved in the care of a newborn several weeks of age. The baby presented to the emergency room in extreme condition. The skin was poorly perfused and blue. The blood pressure was not measurable. The baby was brought to the newborn intensive care unit immediately. Artificial ventilation was provided, central lines were placed, and fluids and cardiac medications were given. The conventional monitors gave no indication of improvement. I had approached the parents about the seriousness of the situation after working on the baby for over a half hour. The nurses and respiratory therapists questioned the wisdom of continuing the resuscitation. The pulse oximeter could not measure the infant's oxygen saturation. The baby still appeared blue and poorly perfused. No amount of effort appeared to improve the situation. Out of desperation, I attached a novel new oximeter (which only available to me on a research protocol) designed to work through poor perfusion. Finally, we had a number to work with. Despite the fact that the other oximeter was attached, for the next several hours, until the blood pressure was in the normal range, there was no saturation readout. If not for the presence of the Masimo pulse oximeter, life-sustaining efforts would have been discontinued. The baby, who was subsequently diagnosed with a complex heart defect, would have died instead of receiving a life sustaining heart transplantation. At this hospital, the same pulse oximeters that failed to measure this baby's vital signs are still in use despite my years of research demonstrating the superiority of Masimo's technology. GPO related incentives prevented the introduction of a better product. Is this an isolated case? No, there are numerous other clinical examples of oximetry failure. Within the past several months at yet another hospital, I have had the displeasure to witness another device's failure nearly costing several small premature babies' lives. In one case, this device reported a near perfect saturation, when the baby had no oxygen in her blood. While these occurrences have been reported to the manufacturer and subsequently to the FDA, these oximeters are still in clinical use in this particular hospital. Why? Because despite the manufacturer's admission that the oximeter was not designed to work in this type of situation, a GPO mandated contract stipulates that this hospital cannot engage in contracting to purchase another manufacturer's pulse oximeters. There are additional examples. In the area of assisted ventilation, GPO mandated contracts have restricted innovation. Bunnel Incorporated has for many years produced a State of the art newborn ventilator that helps prevent chronic lung disease by delivering very fast but very small ventilator breaths. An innovative device under development that would have produced improved ventilation with better monitoring has been put on the shelf for lack of funding. The reason? Venture capitalists will not advance the funds necessary to continue the development of the ventilator because the manufacturer does not have a relationship with any of the GPO's. Efforts to produce a ventilator for adults have met with similar outcome. Because of predatory tactics, the GPO's have not only restricted market access to only a select few companies but have discouraged and prevented research and development of newer innovative technologies. Infrasonics Corporation manufactured one of the more popular neonatal and pediatric ventilators. The InfantStar and InfantStar 950 were in widespread use in neonatal units across the country. These ventilators distinguished themselves in being the ``workhorses'' of neonatal ventilation. With the rise of GPO related contracting, Infrasonics had decreased ability to sell to its market. Despite the fact that the 950+ was under development and provided many new and innovative modes of neonatal and pediatric ventilation, further sales and development of the product line were ultimately scuttled. These new ``market pressures'' decrease the number of options available to provide patient care. Utah Medical Products makes special newborn central line catheters designed to ease insertion, reduce the risk of perforating blood vessels, and prevent complications such as catheter breakage, clotting, or adhesion to the wall of these blood vessels. In some hospitals, these catheters are smuggled in or kept under lock and key so that they can be available for ``only the sickest'' patients. Physicians are discouraged from ``officially'' approaching the vendor for in hospital competitive trials. Hospitals are falsely led to believe that they can rely on a consistent pricing schedule offered through the GPO's to meet physician expectations for choice and quality. Hospital costs can increase secondary to related complications, and again patient care suffers. The argument that the GPO's offer for standardization of patient equipment across a hospital or across a hospital network is persuasive. Put the same equipment in numerous centers across the country, standardize the equipment in the hospital so that you decrease the cost of training nurses and respiratory therapists, achieve the efficiencies of being able to order in large quantities, and increase the amount of money supposedly available for research and to ``improve patient care''. But, there is a significant downside. Who is it after all that decides which equipment is carried by the GPO contract? What criteria are used? What happens to the research and development process? If the proper equipment is not made available, how does the individual patient suffer? In the case of my field, the answer is clear. Take away the incentive to develop newborn appropriate devices, pulse oximeters, ventilators, catheters, and other equipment, develop only for the highly profitable product lines, cater to the lowest common dominator; and patient care will be compromised to the point that babies go blind from being exposed to inappropriate amounts of oxygen, flail helplessly while convulsing on ventilators designed principally for adults, and once again lose their lives to the ravages of premature lung disease. As physicians, we learn to weigh thoroughly our choices for care and medical therapeutics. Where medical care has become subservient to contracting demands, our ability to practice medicine is curtailed. Give us the option, the freedom of choice, to select the medical equipment that will most adequately meet our patient's needs at the best possible price. [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairman Kohl. Now, we turn to Mr. Lynn Detlor. He is the principal of GPO Concepts, Inc. STATEMENT OF LYNN R. DETLOR, PRINCIPAL, GPO CONCEPTS, INC., SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA Mr. Detlor. Senator Kohl, thank you, Senator DeWine. My professional career in health care began in 1972. Group purchasing in health care at that time was in its infancy. Hospital medical supply costs averaged 6 to 7 percent of our annual expense budget, as compared to today in a hospital, where the expense for medical supplies could range anywhere between 23 to 28 percent, depending on the acuity of care delivered. The growth in new technology has helped to expand the growth in the supply cost arena. The political impact of Medicare legislation in the mid- 1970s on operating expenses had a direct impact on hospital executives targeting areas to lower expenses. Salary impact as a potential target caused adjustments in nurse staff-patient ratios, and supply cost reductions through materials management was the major targets. This drove the rapid growth of State and local group purchasing organizations. In 1974, I was hired by the Adventist Health System to organize and establish a collective purchasing program for 17 hospitals in the Western United States. This shortly led to the expansion of the program to all 84 Adventist institutions in North America. In 1986, I was hired by American Healthcare Systems to organize and develop a national group purchasing organization, which ultimately grew to 40 multi-hospital systems representing approximately 1,400 institutions. This growth and expansion was directly related to the continued pressure to lower operating costs. Also in response to competition from for-profit health systems in select markets throughout North America, American Healthcare Systems operated with approximately 60 employees and an annual operating budget of $10 to $12 million. Income was derived from annual dues from its members. Over time, dues were replaced by fees charged to a select group of manufacturers, at that time which we called corporate partners. Fees were not taken on all contracts. Instead, management time was spent on helping the select manufacturers reduce their costs of selling and passing it along to the hospitals. The elimination of dues was seen as an additional cost-cutting strategy. Other group purchasing organizations were already solely fee-funded from the medical manufacturing industry. Pricing of products was implied by medical manufacturers to be linked to the largest compliant customers. This, in turn, led to the consolidation of the marketplace. Local and State group purchasing organizations began to consolidate with larger national organizations in the quest for lower prices for their members. Today, less than a dozen group purchasing organizations represent the majority of the nation's hospitals. Two, Novation and Premier, represent over 60 percent of the nation's institutions. In 1995, American Healthcare Systems and Premier, a group purchasing organization out of Chicago, merged, and six months later, Sun Health merged to form what today is the new Premier. Novation was formed by the linking of the University Hospital Consortium and the Voluntary Hospitals of America. The outcome of mergers has led to large organizations with operating budgets in excess of $300 to $400 million. Diversity to be more than just a group purchasing organization has led to program expansions in e-commerce, data mining, business development, physician practice management, et cetera. Today, working as a consultant in GPO Concepts, we hear the same question from two sides of the marketplace, the medical manufacturers and the hospitals. The medical manufacturers are concerned about the value they receive from the fees paid. How much of it makes its way down to the hospitals is also a major concern. The hospitals are questioning where and how the fees are spent, and yet hospitals face even more pressure to continue to lower their costs. Probably the remaining question in today's marketplace, are hospitals not competing for the same dollars that today go to the GPOs? It is a question the committees and GPOs have to face in the future. The solution rests in their management and with the marketplace demands upon how they function and how they behave. Thank you. Chairman Kohl. We thank you, Mr. Detlor. [The prepared statement of Mr. Detlor follows:] Statement of Lynn R. Detlor, Principal, GPO Concepts, Inc. My professional career in health care began in 1972. Group purchasing in hospital health care was in its infancy. Hospital medical supply costs averaged 6 to 7 percent of annual expense budget as compared to today in a hospital where the expense for medical supplies could range anywhere between 23 to 28 percent depending on the acuity of care delivered. The growth in new technology has helped to expand the growth in supply costs. The political impact of Medicare legislation in the mid-70's on operating expenses had a direct impact on hospital executives targeting areas to lower expenses. Salary impact as a potential target caused adjustments in nurse-patient staffing ratios and supply costs reduction through material management were the major targets. This drove the rapid growth of State and local group purchasing organizations to emerge. In 1974 I was hired by Adventist Health System West to organize and establish a collective purchasing program for 17 Adventist hospitals in the Western United States. This shortly led to the expansion of the program to all 84 Adventists throughout North America. In 1986 I was hired by American Healthcare Systems to organize and develop a national group purchasing organization which ultimately grew to 40 multi- hospital systems representing approximately 1400 hospitals. This growth and expansion was directly related to the continued pressure to lower operating costs. Also in response to competition from the for-profit health systems in select markets through North America, American Healthcare Systems operated with approximately 60 employees and annual operating budget of 10-12 million dollars. Income was derived from dollars. Income was derived from annual dues. Over time dues were replaced by fees charged to select group of manufacturers called corporate partners. Fees were not taken on all contracts. Instead, management's time was spent on helping the selected manufacturers reduce their costs of selling and passing it along to the hospitals. The elimination of dues was seen as an additional cost cutting strategy. Other group purchasing organizations were already solely fee funded from the medical manufacture industry. Pricing of products was implied by medical manufacturers to be linked to the largest compliant customers. This in turn led to consolidation of the market place. Local and State group purchasing organizations began consolidating with larger national organizations in the quest for lower prices for their members. Today, less than a dozen group purchasing organizations represent the majority of the nations hospitals. Two, Novation and Premier represent over 60 percent of the nations hospitals. In 1995 American Healthcare Systems and Premier (A group purchasing organization out of Chicago) merged and 6 months later Sun Health merged to form what today is the new Premier. Novation was formed by a linking of the University Hospital Consortium and the Voluntary Hospitals of America. The outcome of the mergers has led to larger organizations with operating budgets in excess of $300-$400 million dollars. Diversity, to be more than just a group purchasing organization, has led to program expansions in e-commerce and data mining, business development, physician practice management, etc. Today, working as a consultant at ``GPO Concepts'' we hear the same questions from two sides of the market place, the medical manufacturers and the hospitals. The medical manufacturers are concerned about the value they receive from the fees paid. How much makes its way down to the hospitals is also a major concern. The hospitals are questioning where and how the fees are spent and yet hospitals face even more pressure to continue to lower costs. Are the hospitals now competing for the same dollars that today goes to the group purchasing organizations? Chairman Kohl. Finally, we come to Elizabeth Weatherman, who is the Managing Director of Warburg Pincus, where she has been a member of the health care group since 1988. STATEMENT OF ELIZABETH A. WEATHERMAN, VICE CHAIR, MEDICAL GROUP, NATIONAL VENTURE CAPITAL ASSOCIATION AND MANAGING DIRECTOR, WARBURG PINCUS, LLC, NEW YORK, NEW YORK Ms. Weatherman. Thank you, Senator Kohl, Senator DeWine. Yes, Warburg Pincus is one of the largest venture capital firms in the United States and, therefore, in the world, since the United States is the most vital community for venture capital. We have also been a leader in health care investing for over 30 years. I have been with the firm for 14 years, and for the last 13 of those have been actively investing in medical technology companies. I am also the Vice Chair of the medical group within the National Venture Capital Association and am here today on behalf of the more than 475 professional venture capital firms dedicated to stimulating the flow of equity capital to emerging growth and developing companies. Our members currently invest more than $36 billion per year in such companies and have invested nearly $210 billion in aggregate over the past 20 years, funding many of the most important technological and medical breakthroughs of that period across the fields of biotechnology, drug development, medical devices, and health care services. First, I would like to thank you, Senator Kohl, and your committee and your staff for bringing forth and taking the initiative to examine this very critical issue to the venture capital medical device industry and the medical community at large and patients and Americans at large. During the past 30 years, the venture community has financed over 1,300 innovative medical companies with more than $20 billion in start-up capital, including more than $4.2 billion last year alone. These companies now have sales of tens of billions of dollars and employ more than two million people, and most importantly, have revolutionized medical care for nearly all Americans. In fact, it is fair to say that virtually every U.S. citizen born during the last 30 years will benefit personally and significantly from one or more of the drugs or medical devices developed with venture capital. These include MR imaging, ultrasound, coronary angioplasty and stints, implantable cardiac defibrillators, spinal implants, pulse oximetry, and drugs for cancer, heart attacks, and anemia, to name a very few. Clearly, what these companies do is critically important to the well-being of the American public and the world at large. A second point is that bringing medical innovation to market is very hard. It entails taking enormous risks. These include refining and perfecting the technology itself, proving the safety and efficacy via well-conceived and executed human clinical trials, obtaining the FDA approval to market the technology, developing the means to assure high-quality manufacture of the technology, and obtaining an efficient means to sell and distribute it to the market. Like any market, it also entails for new entrants contending with established competitors who already have significant share with the customer base. Any one of these risks alone may lead to a venture-backed company's failure, and many companies focused on medical innovation actually do fail. Venture capitalists accept these legitimate risks every day, while traditional financial institutions and government-supported programs cannot. It is the function of the venture capital community to take risks like this. However, it is our view that the anti-competitive practices of the GPO community as currently configured disrupts the already highly fragile and risky process of bringing medical innovation to market. The new reality is that GPOs are now financed, and therefore too controlled by, large medical products companies rather than by the hospitals they are intended to represent. GPO practices such as long-term contract exclusivity, substantial fee structures, and product bundling, if allowed to continue, will so constrict potential markets that product segments where these practices are widely adopted will simply not be considered for venture capital backing. This investment drain will result in a stagnation of product innovation and stymie improved patient care in these product segments. It is hard enough for a small company to overcome the power of a large entrenched competitor even in an open and competitive marketplace. It is nearly impossible when monopolistic producers collude with monopsonistic buyers, such as GPOs to suppress competition. While the government would not tolerate such practices in any other sector of the economy, for it to tolerate or even encourage the situation in medicine is very disturbing, because one of the clear effects is to impede innovation, certainly not the government's intent. In medicine, as much if not more than any other sector, in contrast to any other sector, reduced innovation ultimately affects patients' lives and health, and there is no doubt that patients' health have suffered as a result of GPO activities. In light of this, the anti- competitive activities of the GPOs should be viewed with even more, not less, skepticism. Finally, the idea that GPOs save money for hospitals by extracting larger price discounts from manufacturers than manufacturers could achieve themselves is unprovable and most likely wrong, unprovable because no one knows what the real market price would be in a truly competitive market among producers in the absence of GPO gatekeeping. In fact, the product areas where GPOs collude with producers who already have virtual monopolies, the ``discounted'' price, quote- unquote, that the GPOs claim to achieve, is almost certainly well above what the market price would be in an open and competitive marketplace. In summary, the venture capital community believes there are enormous opportunities to continue to improve the health of the American public through the development and application of new technology. These efforts are already very expensive and risky. Despite this, my community is committed to further investments in U.S. health care technology. However, the increasing powers of GPOs and their collusive and anti- competitive activities with larger entrenched medical companies threatens to undermine the open and competitive markets that have served the American public well by stimulating fair prices and vast technological innovation. We would strongly encourage the committee to correct these abuses and again open these markets to fair and vigorous competition. Chairman Kohl. We thank you, Ms. Weatherman. [The prepared statement of Ms. Weatherman follows:] Statement of Elizabeth A. Weatherman, Vice Chair, Medical Group, National Venture Capital Association and Managing Director, Warburg Pincus, LLC Good Morning. My name is Bess Weatherman and I am Vice Chair of the Medical Group of the National Venture Capital Association. I am here today on behalf of the more than 475 professional venture capital and private equity firms dedicated to stimulating the flow of equity capital to emerging growth and developing companies. Our members currently invest more than $36 billion per year in such companies and have invested nearly $210 billion in aggregate over the past 20 years, funding nearly all of the most important technological breakthroughs of that period. A substantial number of these firms invest heavily in the life sciences field that includes biotechnology, drug development, medical devices and therapeutics and health care services. In 2001, the venture capital community invested more than $4.2 billion, or more than 10 percent of all venture investing last year, in these medical industries. Venture investment in the life sciences has given new hope to people who suffer maladies across virtually the entire spectrum of diseases and afflictions. In fact, without patient investment from venture capitalists, the biotechnology and medical technology industry, for example, would be virtually nonexistent. Almost every biotechnology product that has been approved for sale by the Food and Drug Administration has been financed by the venture capital community. The venture community also provided financing for many of the medical devices and therapeutics we take for granted today, including the entire interventional cardiology or stent industry. These now standard medical treatments allow patients to lead longer and healthier lives. The venture community's dedication to the medical technology industry exists despite heavy government regulation and the longer-term investing strategy required for successful development of new medical technology, even when compared to other emerging market investments. Few can argue that what these companies do is critically important to the well being of the American public and the world at large. However, the results of the debate we are holding today on reforming group purchasing organizations to ensure a competitive and open market for all medical industry producers will directly affect the future of emerging life science companies and in turn impact the availability of the important medical products these companies are developing. Let me be clear, companies subject to, or potentially subject to, anti-competitive practices by GPOs will not be funded by venture capital. As a result, many of these companies and their innovations will die, even if they offer a dramatic improvement over an existing solution. Permitting this innovation stifling practice is unnecessary and counter to what we believe should be a fundamental role of the government: enhancing health by making new or improved products widely available as quickly and efficiently as possible. the role of venture capital in improving america's health Venture capital plays an integral, often-unsung role in the development of medical technology. In fact, venture capital is the single most important source of early stage financing to new and emerging health-focused companies. During the past 30 years, the venture community financed 1,324 innovative medical companies with more than $20 billion in startup capital. These companies now have sales of tens of billions of dollars, employ more than 2 million people and most importantly, have revolutionized medical care for nearly all Americans. It is fair to say that virtually every U.S. citizen born during the last thirty years has benefited or will benefit, in his or her lifetime, personally and significantly from one or more of the drugs or medical devices developed with U.S. venture capital. These include MR imaging, ultrasound, angioplasty/stents, implantable defibrillators, spinal implants, pulse oximetry and drugs for cancer, heart attacks, and anemia, to name a very few. It is also important to note that the real medical impact of venture investments is also significantly greater than even these numbers would suggest, since our investments are normally focused only on ground breaking or revolutionary technology by the very nature of our investment selection process. Many of these companies' names are now synonymous with progressive medical technology including Guidant, Amgen, and Genentech. why medical device and biotechnology companies need venture capital Medical device and biotechnology companies need venture capital because their capital needs are so large, their time to market so long--due in large part to regulatory compliance--and their risks so high. There are enormous entrepreneurial risks in bringing medical products to market--risks that include proving product safety and efficacy, securing patent protection, securing a good distribution channel, facing entrenched competition, and possibly running out of money before the product can reach a significant portion of the market--to name just a few. Such characteristics make these young companies ineligible for bank financing or other sources of private capital. It is important to note that venture capitalists will accept these legitimate risks that traditional financial institutions and government supported programs cannot--it's part of our function. But, VCs do not, cannot, and will not accept unnecessary and unfair risks. We need to provide our investors with justification that substantial capital investment can result in successful product development and financial gain. Thus, we have no interest in products that can be blocked from fairly competing for a share of a market, even after a long, expensive and risky product development cycle. Simply put, venture capitalists will increasingly stay away from many investments in long-term, high- risk medical breakthroughs if the government continues to allow anticompetitive business practices to artificially limit access to medical market. standard business practices by group purchasing organizations affect venture capital investment emerging medical companies, and patient care GPO roadblocks have greatly diminished the attractiveness of medical device and biotechnology investments because they reduce the confidence of venture capitalists that they will have fair access to medical markets and thereby will achieve a return on very risky investments. To put this in perspective, between 1990 and 1994 at least 22 percent of all companies financed by venture capitalists were medical device or biotechnology companies, with medical device companies accounting for approximately 9 percent and biotechnology companies accounting for 13 percent of the 22 percent. By comparison, during the period 1999 to 2001 these companies made up only 8.9 percent of all companies receiving venture capital financing. Of this 8.9 percent, device companies received 5.0 percent and biotechnology companies receive 3.9 percent. These numbers dropped dramatically from 1999--2001 when 9.8 percent, 7.1 percent and 11 percent respectively of the companies funded were medical device or biotechnology companies. For these years, medical device companies dropped more, making up only 5.5 percent, 3.9 percent and 6.2 percent of the combined totals. One of the reasons for this relative decline new investment is a lack of market access brought about by the business practices and the increasing power of GPOs. GPO practices such as contract exclusivity, substantial fee structures, and product bundling, if allowed to continue, will so constrict potential markets that product segments where these practices are widely adopted will simply not be considered for venture capital backing. This investment drain will result in a stagnation of product innovation and stymie improved patient care across these product sectors. The arguments made by GPOs about the ``administrative'' savings they provide to members could be applied to every single sector of the economy and are virtually identical to the arguments made by the anticompetitive ``trusts'' of the early 1900's, which led to the landmark Sherman Antitrust laws. The idea that the GPOs ``save'' money for hospitals by extracting larger price discounts from producers than they could achieve by themselves, is unprovable and most likely wrong-- unprovable because no one knows what the ``real'' market price would be in a truly competitive market among producers (in the absence of GPO gatekeeping). In fact, in product areas where GPOs collude with producers who already have virtual monopolies, the ``discounted'' price that the GPOs claim to achieve is almost certainly well above what the market price would be in an open and competitive marketplace. The impact of the GPOs in healthcare is equally anticompetitive and stifling of innovation, and there is no special reason why the healthcare system should be the only sector of the economy where such practices are tolerated. The venture capital industry exists, in part, because the antitrust philosophy of the United States prevents entrenched, unmoveable competitors from abusing their market power to unfairly restrain competition. By their very nature, virtually every company we finance is a ``revolutionary'' and a threat to the established order. The technological innovations they develop, whether in computers, electronics, software, telecommunications or medicine, are inevitably threats to some existing larger competitor who will use all means at its disposal to defend itself. It is hard enough to overcome that kind of power in an open and competitive market place. It is nearly impossible when monopolistic producers collude with monopsonistic buyers such as GPO to suppress competition. This is precisely what is now happening in healthcare. As the GPOs become more powerful and add more technologically sophisticated products to their portfolios (instead of the more commodity-like products such as rubber gloves, syringes and cotton swabs that they originally focused on) the adverse impact on innovation will increase. There will be fewer and fewer areas in which venture capital will invest. The current trend is not encouraging. The venture capital community believes that collusion between GPOs and providers of medical products to limit market access to competitors is extremely anticompetitive and not justified by any peculiarities of the medical sector. On the contrary, while the government would not tolerate such practices in any other sector of the economy, for it to tolerate (and even encourage) this situation in medicine is disturbing, because one of the clear effects of these practices is to impede innovation. In medicine, in contrast to any other sector, reduced innovation ultimately affects patients' lives and health. There is no doubt that patients' lives have been lost and other harm done as a result of GPO's activities. In light of this, the special exemptions from the normal operation of the antitrust laws granted to the GPOs should be viewed with even greater, not less skepticism. Conclusion The venture capital community believes that there are enormous opportunities to continue to improve the health of the American public through the development and application of new technology. These efforts are already very time consuming, expensive and risky, particularly given recent increases and uncertainties in the U.S. regulatory environment. Despite this, the venture capital community is committed to further investment in U.S. healthcare technology. We welcome open and competitive marketplaces, and we believe that competition has served the American public well by stimulating fair prices and vast technological innovation. The increasing power of GPOs, and their collusive and anticompetitive activities with larger medical companies, threatens to undermine the open and competitive markets that have produced such obvious benefits for the American public, not only in healthcare, but also across the entire economy. We would strongly encourage the committee to consider legislation to correct these abuses and again open these markets to fair and vigorous competition. Thank you. [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairman Kohl. Before I begin my questioning, Senator DeWine, who has to leave for another unavoidable commitment, has asked to make a comment. Senator DeWine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do apologize to the panel and to you for having to leave. Our voting schedule has thrown off my schedule a little bit today, but I look forward to hearing your comments and reading your comments, and I will, Mr. Chairman, be submitting questions for the record for the different panelists. I have found, Mr. Chairman, that the testimony of Mr. Kiani, Dr. Goldstein, and Ms. Weatherman to be extremely troubling, and I am anxious for Mr. Norling and Mr. McKenna, to hear their answers, because each one of us has benefitted from technology, medical technology. There is not a person in this room who has not, and the older we get, the more we benefit, but we also see it in our children and our grandchildren. So I am always alarmed if there is any possibility that any kind of practice that this Congress is permitting, which we have with the law that we passed a few years ago, that might impede that kind of research, might impede people taking changes with their money, might impede smaller start-up businesses that have an idea from getting a fair hearing, and more importantly to get a fair hearing, to get the opportunity to make that sale. So, again, I apologize to you, Mr. Chairman and the members of the committee. I think the testimony has been very good and I will take a look at the answers to your questions and the rest of the hearing and I will be submitting questions for the record. Thank you. Chairman Kohl. We thank you very much, Senator DeWine. Ladies and gentlemen, it is good to have you here. We think there is some opportunity to accomplish some significant things, not just today, but tomorrow, next week, and next month, and this whole area of GPOs and their impact on health care in our country. I was interested and satisfied, very pleased to hear you, Mr. Norling, say that you were willing and more than willing to be part of a group that is put together to study how we can improve, if possible, improve the practices of GPOs. I assume, or I would like to hope, Mr. McKenna, that you would be equally willing to be part of a group that would include not only your two companies, but perhaps some manufacturers, device manufacturers from hospitals, a small group, but a representative group of this entire industry, to do what we can collectively do to improve something that you would like to improve yourself, if possible, is that correct? Mr. McKenna. That is more than a fair statement, Senator. In fact, if you looked at my chicken-scratched notes, it said to add something at the end to acknowledge that---- Chairman Kohl. Right. Mr. McKenna [continuing]. In the crush of the schedule, I did not do that. But I overwhelmingly would be in favor of principles of operation, things that would make us better. We always have room for improvement. Chairman Kohl. Mr. Norling. Mr. Norling. I reiterate my comments, Senator. Anything that is ultimately going to benefit patients, you are going to find us thoroughly supportive of. Chairman Kohl. So we will be able to discuss whatever the law permits us to discuss. I think that would be significant and I believe that that will result, and I say this not just optimistically, but I believe that it is your intention and your sincerity in wanting to run a business as well as you can, as clean as you can, and as efficiently and effectively as you can and you would be happy to discuss it. So I think that is a good start. Now, we would like to ask the two of you this question of financial interest in companies, either individually or corporately, that you do business with. I am sure you could understand how, at least on the surface if not far deeper, there is a concern on how, theoretically or in fact, you serve more than one master. So in advance of asking you to desist, we would like you to respond to our concern about financial interests, either as individuals or corporately, in companies with which you do business. Mr. McKenna, would you like to speak first, and then Mr. Norling? Mr. McKenna. Certainly, Senator. Thank you. We have a very specific conflict of interest policy and a code of ethics that we have provided and put into the testimony. So we have employees in our company that, like many companies, can own up to 1 percent of a public company. In regard to that matter, and what I personally own, as the only member of the senior management team that has individual stock holdings, I own at this point in time five stocks that would be medically related--actually, four medically related and one other, and the total holdings are 1,371 shares, with the highest holding being 249 shares. So what I would suggest in that regard, Senator, is that with good clinicians like Ms. Barrett next to me and the over 23 advisory councils that we have, they have no knowledge of my holdings nor would they have a need to. But they do not come into play relative to the decisions that our clinicians and others make relative to our contract process, which separates both the non-financial or quality criteria from the financial criteria. Chairman Kohl. Wait, wait, wait. You are saying you do hold stock in companies with which your company does business? Mr. McKenna. Yes, sir. Chairman Kohl. You are saying this is OK? Mr. McKenna. We have a code of conduct, an ethics policy for our company, and that policy allows for ownership in public companies of up to 1 percent. Chairman Kohl. Well, that may be your company's policy. That is what we are discussing. Mr. McKenna. Yes, sir. Chairman Kohl. I would like to hope you could understand how people like myself and others would be skeptical about such ownership. In fact, if you want to be as clean as clean can be, then you might consider having a policy--after all, there are many stocks to own in this world---- Mr. McKenna. Certainly. Chairman Kohl [continuing]. You could own a plethora of bad stocks or good stocks. Mr. McKenna. That is true. Chairman Kohl. So why not just say, look, it is a bad idea. Some people who are reputable consider it to be questionable, so I and all of those with whom I am associated in my company will not do business stock-wise with companies that we buy from, or who buy from us. Mr. McKenna. Certainly, Senator. I think it is worth a review. We are in the process of looking at our code of conduct. It has served us well, we believe, up to now. We do not believe there is any conflict of interest. Even our advisors are asked to abide by the same conflict of interest as they make decisions for us. But I think taking a look at it certainly would be in order. Chairman Kohl. OK. Mr. Norling. Mr. Norling. Senator, we also have a code of conduct/ conflict of interest policy. It speaks to individuals, and we also have a practice with regard to corporate conflict of interest. As regards individuals, first of all, to clarify that policy, in any cases where an individual is appointed by Premier to any kind of an outside board, it is against our policy for those individuals to financially benefit. Very specifically, the policy suggests that any income earned through that sort of process, be they director's options, director's fees, or anything else, would accrue to Premier and thus accrue to Premier's hospitals. So we are very specific on that. Cases have been reported in the media that suggest that practices have occurred otherwise. That dates back to the early history of the new Premier. There are no such cases at this time. Those cases that were reported are under investigation by our outside counsel. We are awaiting a comprehensive recommendation case-by-case as to what we ought to do in the four specifics that were noted. We have also been advised to maintain confidentiality of the individuals involved until we conclude our action. So specifically in that regard, as regards holdings by members of management in this area, our policy is clear. Some exceptions to that have been noticed. They are historic, but that does not mean that they are not significant. They are being dealt with in, I think, an appropriate way that once we learn about the conflict or the inconsistency of disclosure, we, in turn, pursue it. So with regard to that point, I think it is pretty clear. Regarding investments by employees in companies that we do business with or might do business with, our policy currently calls for disclosure, number one, and recusal, number two. I get a sense of where you are going here, and we are in the process of reviewing this policy. I can tell you that I personally, as regards employees in our company and having shares in companies we do business with, I am in personal support of a prohibition of that. So as we review our policies, we, indeed, will do that. Now, regarding board members, for example, who may have a relationship with a company in the medical area, our policy also calls for disclosure and recusal and I happen to believe that is appropriate. Board members serve a defined time period. More often than not, they come to the board with a set of experience, et cetera, and to say that to join this board, you must change your retirement account that might perhaps have X shares of some medical products company does not, to me, make sense. We think the policy of disclosure, and we do have a conflict of interest policy that requires full disclosure and the policy-related recusal should any issue come to the board regarding that, is an appropriate one, but as in all things, we are open to improving and we are open for dialogue in that arena. Chairman Kohl. Great. I think that is great. All right. Mr. Kiani, I am sure you would say, made some very strong testimony here today. He says he has an outstanding product. He says that he has sold that product to independent hospitals all across this country very successfully and the product is recognized as a legitimate, legitimate, very legitimate tool. Now, why would you not have him on your list? I mean, the man has tried to get on your list. He has clearly got a product that is on the list of many hospitals. He is not able to do business with you fellows. I would think that one of your sensitivities in your job is to recognize, as has been pointed out by people on this panel, how important innovation is, that one of your proclivities should be to bend over backwards to find ways to encourage innovation, which really means to get on your list. If they cannot get on your list, as they have pointed out, they are out of business. So here is one example of a man who has got a product which we would like you to comment on and perhaps tell us why, in your esteemed judgment, he doesn't belong on your list. Who wants to be first? [Laughter.] Mr. McKenna. In our case, Senator, Mr. Kiani's company did participate in our process. As I mentioned, it is open and fair and he went through the entire process along with two other companies that went through the bid process. This process involved an 18-month period where we utilized over 40 hospital professionals from five of our advisory councils and also got research returned to us from 850 of our member organizations. Utilizing the process that our members have helped us develop, which is called low best bid, we separate out the non- financial criteria, very important, things to do with quality, safety, availability, education, and service, from the cost factors, and taking the entire submissions through that process, our clinicians overwhelmingly endorsed the company that we made an award to. Now, I would point out that 30 percent of our portfolio is offered on a dual or a multi-source basis, and so directly to your question, in this case, we found that this technology was different from the other technology that we selected. We did not find it at the time to be new or innovative, and, therefore, we looked at what value would we put on the table relative to the decision process, and once again, the task force that drove this decision, over 40 individuals strong, overwhelmingly came in favor of the company that we selected. We would, if we have not already submitted it into the record, would be happy to give a detailed report to you, Senator Kohl and all of the committee members, to review our process of cost divided by quality resulting in low best bid. Chairman Kohl. Before we ask Mr. Kiani and maybe Mr. Goldstein to respond to you, Mr. Norling, would you like to respond? Mr. Norling. Yes, indeed. Thank you. First of all, I am not a clinician, so obviously I listen to a presentation both by Mr. Kiani and by Dr. Goldstein and it sounds very, very compelling. I will tell you very frankly, in the role I am in, I get the benefit of multiple inputs from multiple manufacturers, frankly, all of whom suggest their product is unique and differentiated and I am not one to make that determination. My role is to see that there is a fair and effective process, so let me speak to that. First of all, Premier facilities are free to choose Masimo's product. Now, I would acknowledge that we do have a contract. It has a target commitment percentage, but there is plenty of room for the use of Masimo's product, and if I could, Senator, I have a couple of letters from some very key institutions that speak directly to this and I wonder if I might be able to quote from those letters. Chairman Kohl. Sure. Go ahead. Mr. Norling. Thank you very much. First of all, from St. Vincent Catholic Medical Centers in downtown Manhattan, an organization that really distinguished itself during the 9/11 tragedy, David Campbell is the President and CEO of that organization. He writes in a letter to the editor of the New York Times in response to a New York Times article, he wanted to highlight the positive relationship he had with Premier. He indicated that they internally estimate that they have saved 7 to 10 percent through that relationship. He highlights, ``the flexibility within Premier's contracts also allow us to choose those products that physicians require, whether or not Premier has arranged a group contract. There are instances when we have chosen to use products not on contract, such as Masimo's pulse oximeter, to support our caregiver's preference with no penalty from Premier. We currently,'' as Mr. Campbell says, ``use Masimo's technology in our hospitals, although,'' and the rest speaks to the Times and their article. Likewise, I have a similar letter here from the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit, a large organization serving all of Southeast Michigan. I, frankly, could come up with additional letters, but there is certainly the opportunity for the Masimo product to enter Premier hospitals, and so I would take exception to the suggestions that that is not the case. I have two letters here and, frankly, could produce others over time. If you are willing, sir, I would submit these for your consideration in the record, and that is up to you, if you would like to do so. Chairman Kohl. All right. So now I would like to go to Mr. Kiani. I think I am hearing at least Mr. McKenna say that your product is not all that good in comparison to its competitor and that it does not belong on their list. Incidentally, Mr. McKenna, is the other product sole source? Mr. McKenna. In this case, it is a sole-source contract, Senator---- Chairman Kohl. Sole source, all right. Mr. McKenna [continuing]. It may have been as good, but just not--we did not find it to be--clinicians did not find it to be innovative, but just different technology. Chairman Kohl. Then the question that I would also like to keep on the table here is, recognizing your responsibility to be sensitive to innovation, I still wonder why the pulse oximeter, is that what it is? Mr. McKenna. Yes, sir. Chairman Kohl [continuing]. Should be a sole-source commodity, unless you can make the case, not only with respect to this product but many other products, that the alternative does not belong on anybody's list. Mr. McKenna. Not at all, Senator. Chairman Kohl. Then why sole source? Before I get to Mr. Kiani, why sole source? Mr. McKenna. In this case, the differential in value is such, offered both in pricing as well as, more importantly, non-financial criteria, the clinicians overwhelmingly endorsed this product and found the technologies to be different, but not new and innovative. So when looking at then making an award, we went through our low best bid process and the greater value accrued to our membership by the decision that we had made. Mr. Kiani has a fine product, and as Mr. Norling has stated, in our organization, our members are free to choose. We have members that use us to a great degree. We have members that use us very little. Of the 70 percent of the products that we cover that members use, that means 30 percent we do not have contracts for, we probably have in the vicinity of a little over 50 percent, 50 to 60 percent of their business. So about 60 percent is bought off-contract to begin with and 40 percent is bought on-contract, and then that level will vary. If I could, I sense Ms. Barrett has some information that could be helpful relative to---- Chairman Kohl. All right, and then we will hear from Mr. Kiani and Mr. Goldstein. Ms. Barrett. If I could, I would like to take Mr. McKenna off the hot seat a little bit in that we who participate on the panels often discuss that issue as we see a marketplace of items. I have to again ask the committee to consider the fact that we, as individual professionals who serve on these councils, take that duty to look at innovation, look at the marketplace, consider patient safety, very heavily in our deliberations. In many cases, we will be advising the Novation staff whether we think what we have seen and reviewed warrants a sole source or dual source or, in some cases, triple source. We as individual members have to realize that when we make that advice to Novation, we probably will be giving up on some financial value, but those are decisions that we, as clinicians on these panels and councils, take very seriously. Chairman Kohl. OK. Mr. Kiani, then Dr. Goldstein and Ms. Weatherman? Mr. Kiani. Senator Kohl, if you do not mind, I would like to just make a few points. Number one, we do not disagree with Ms. Trisha Barrett that the advisory group that Novation has put together does meet and does diligently try to come up with the best solution, but we have reasons to believe that the advisory groups, when the votes are taken, they are not listened to and they are taking another way or format where people really know what all the people on the advisory group really want to do. Now that I have made that point, because I do respect UCSF, I do respect the advisory groups and the members. I have met with a lot of them. They are very good people. It is just not being listened to. I would like to address both Premier and Novation, if I may, of what has happened in those particular situations. First of all, Premier's technology assessment team, which supposedly does technical evaluations for Premier and the hospitals, did come out with a report that said Masimo is a breakthrough and should be allowed and is necessary for certain types of patients. After completing this report, Premier stalled us for 2 years. In the meantime, Premier extended the sole-source contract with Tyco-Nellcor to 2007 without even asking us for a price. Now, I do not understand how they could be saving their members---- Chairman Kohl. Let me say this again, because I want to be sure. You are saying they came up with a conclusion that your product does represent a breakthrough technology? Mr. Kiani. Yes, sir. Chairman Kohl. Yet, at the same time, they extended the contract with their other supplier sole source? Mr. Kiani. Yes, sir. Chairman Kohl. To 2007? Mr. Kiani. To 2007. This contract has been in place since 1996 and it was extended to 2007 and not once did they even ask us, what is our competitive bid, so they could use that to hopefully get a better price from Tyco-Nellcor. In fact, I have a chart that is in the back of your book that I could also put up. That price has been constant since 1996. Chairman Kohl. You are talking about independent hospitals where you have made a sale. How many hospitals are there? I think you said 44 percent, but I did not get the number. Did I miss the number of independent hospitals where your pulse oximeter is---- Mr. Kiani. Yes. I do have the exact number. It is probably in the area of about 60 to 70 hospitals where we were able to make sales, and the testament that Premier and Novation hospitals wish to have our product is that they buy our product, but they stay below the 5 percent compliance level, or the 5 percent exclusion level that Novation has and the 10 percent level that Premier has. Chairman Kohl. OK. Mr. Kiani. But if I may just take you through the Premier process, once they renewed it, then later Premier pronounced that because Tyco-Nellcor had purportedly a competitive product, it would not further consider Masimo as a breakthrough technology. Now, I do not want to take you through 50 clinical studies. I have charts. I do not think it is your--you are not here to decide if we are better or not. They are not capable of deciding that. It should be clinicians that decide what is best for the patient. I also mentioned that they also said we can get into hospitals. We know the Premier hospitals continue to petition Premier for exemptions to permit them to purchase Masimo technology. To date, all of these have been denied or not responded to. During the same period, at least two of our licensees who manufacture patient monitors with our technology were threatened by Premier to not even show Masimo to Premier hospitals. In fact, one of them refused and, maybe coincidentally, their contract was not renewed. Now, Senator Kohl, over 40 companies, companies like GE Medical Systems, Dataskove, Zoehl, they did their own evaluation. They decided Masimo SET was a breakthrough and they made it their standard product, but they cannot sell it into Premier and Novation hospitals because of these impediments. I would like to just briefly tell you about the Novation experience. Novation initially said it was not going to grant a sole-source contract for pulse oximetry. They said they were going to do a dual source. Masimo was told that many of Novation's hospitals wanted our technology and had listed accuracy, motion performance, which is what we pioneered, and price as key to any decision. Now, not only did our product beat Tyco-Nellcor's, respectfully, even though Mr. McKenna says we are just different, on accuracy and motion performance by 2- to 10-fold to 20-fold to 30-fold, depending on which study you look at--independent studies, not ours--but we have since learned that our bid price to Novation was 30 percent lower than Tyco-Nellcor, who got the contract. Now, here is a group purchasing organization that granted a sole-source contract, so frankly, Senator Kohl, we assumed Nellcor must have given a better price, but we gave a price that was 30 percent lower, and I have a chart that I could show you if you would like me to. Chairman Kohl. All right. Mr. Kiani. One last thing. I am sorry. You asked a very important question. You asked, why was Masimo excluded? Chairman Kohl. Yes. Mr. Kiani. You asked why Masimo was excluded. We have been told that up until the sixth week of the 18-month process, this was going to be a dual source, and Tyco-Nellcor went in in the 11th hour and offered a kicker, more than $6 million more per year to Novation through an extra 10 percent fee for Novation to put their brand name on Nellcor-Tyco sensors and sell it. So if you ask why we get excluded, it is because of the payments that are being paid by these big suppliers who have learned how to manipulate the system to keep their competitors out. In fact, we actually believe they are paying between 12 to 23 percent kickbacks to Novation in order to get this exclusion, and if you would like, I even have letters from UCSF, I have letters from St. Francis Hospitals, and I would just like to read maybe even UCSF's letter. ``Dear Mr. Wilson.'' Mr. Wilson is one of our clinical specialists, ``We have evaluated the new Masimo Corporation pulse oximetry and found them superior to existing Nellcor monitors. I strongly recommend them for the pediatric intensive care unit as well as the operating room.'' This is by Dr. Mohan Reddy from UCSF, which Ms. Trisha Barrett is at. Another letter from UCSF, Dr. Scott Soifer, who is the Professor of Pediatrics and Vice Chair of Clinical Affairs. He writes, ``Dear Mr. Wilson, I would like to thank you'' and this is October 12, 2001. ``for the support Masimo provided during our evaluation of pulse oximetry and inquire about when we might be receiving new oximeters. After comparing the Masimo to the new Nellcor'' this is the device they say is as good as ours and we are just different ``and HP on dozens of patients, I am eager to see a Masimo at every bedside in the pediatric intensive care unit. I was impressed with the performance of your monitor on patients that presented challenges for the other monitors and feel that Masimo will help improve our ability to assess and treat our patients. Please provide me with an update on your progress toward supplying the pediatric intensive care unit at UCSF with Masimo monitors. If I can help the process, please tell me what is needed to move this along.'' Ms. Barrett. May I respond to that? I did not know that was going to be coming up today. As a result of some of the new technology coming our way, regardless of our contract situation, we invited both Nellcor and Masimo back into the institution just recently, as Mr. Kiani suggests. Both the pediatric intensivists as well as the adult intensivists as well as all of our respiratory therapists who have a stake in this hearing were invited to those presentations. There was about an hour-and-45-minutes allotted. Both manufacturers were provided the opportunity to make another presentation and come back for questions and answers. To that extent, that is still under consideration at our institution at this very moment. I think it speaks to the opportunity that we can make an individual decision. Should all of the stakeholders, not just the two that were mentioned, reach a consensus, we can do that, and if we choose to do that, we will take into account whatever value we are giving up in doing that, as well as I think one thing the committee has to consider in looking at what we are facing every single day in constrained costs, and that is considerable capital equipment to balance with rewiring the whole place. We had just instituted all new critical care units for the adult side. So that is not an inconsequential consideration for us as we move forward to try to standardize. I would also like to take this opportunity to make the point about standardization. A lot has been discussed here about innovation, and again, I am a health care provider who has worked in no other industry, waiting for new innovation every year of my nursing career, and so I am excited about innovation. I am worried about innovation and it getting to our patients for a lot of reasons. But I also have to consider the constant churn of new product and technology as it faces our clinicians, because with every new device, especially more complex devices, we face an enormous education, patient safety, and in some cases health care worker safety, and we have to make that balance. You, Senator Kohl, spoke very eloquently about some balance in decisions, and that is a balance that we are looking at continually as we meet that innovative part of our mission and discovery, as well as trying to standardize and make care for our providers as quick and efficient as possible, in the safest possible manner. Chairman Kohl. I want to just pose this question and maybe get some input from some of the other panelists, which hits on what we are talking about here. Why do we have so many GPO contracts that require hospitals to purchase the vast majority of their supplies in a product category from the manufacturer with the GPO contract in order to gain the GPO negotiated discount price? Sometimes this commitment, as you know, is as high as 90 percent. In fact, it may be in Mr. Kiani's case. Why not give the hospital a choice? I do not understand this sole source, unless there is so little innovation, so few products that compare to the one you choose. I do not understand this business of sole source unless it is very rare, it almost never occurs, it only occurs where there clearly is no alternative. We are very sensitive to innovation. We bend over backwards to encourage innovation. That is why sole source never occurs or rarely occurs. But that is not our understanding here, that sole source is not an extremely rare occurrence. You hear all the other people on the panel say you have got to have, they have got to have access to you fellows or they are out of business or they are not even in business. Recognizing that, what is with this sole source? Mr. McKenna. First of all, Senator, all of these gentlemen do have access. I just would comment, the last meeting I had with Mr. Kiani was on an invite to come in when he did not get the contract award. We sat down and reviewed the process. Since that time, I have not heard from Mr. Kiani, and so I would be always open-minded in our business practice to sit and meet with innovative companies. Seldom, if ever, do I ever get a call from a venture capitalist. I do not think my staff does, either. In regard to your direct question about sole source versus dual source, we have many multi source, which is more than two, and dual source arrangements where the value and the innovation, or the combination of both, is perceived, and, in fact, laid out by our clinicians and others that evaluate our products to bring them the best value. But in many of our contracts, after evaluation of the submitted bids on criteria that the clinician set prior to the bid going out and putting a weighting on it, in the evaluation coming back, looking at cost factors and quality factors and dividing cost by quality and looking at the differential that would be left, from one decision to standardize on a sole-source product that more than meets the clinical requirements, and going to two sources of supply, which would leave value on the table that would not be able to inure to people like Ms. Barrett and her organization, we go with a sole source. So we have a blend of both. Our members who we are here to serve and whose bidding that we do really drive those decisions. Chairman Kohl. Ms. Weatherman, do you want to make a comment? Ms. Weatherman. Yes, I would make a couple comments. I think it is very important, as I have highlighted here, and I think everyone in this room would agree that medical innovation is important. But I think it is also important that innovation for innovation's sake is not what we should be focused on. What we need to focus on is, is a new product or an existing product truly serving a clinical need? Is it delivering value to the marketplace? Maybe it is because it is cheaper. Maybe it is because it is better, it is more accurate, it is easier to use. I mean, there are a lot of criteria for value that hospitals would perceive in a new or existing product. I think it is important for the committee, and my suggestion would be to investigate or gather the information to try to understand what the total revenues are and the prices that Tyco-Mallinckrodt-Nellcor charge for their sensors, how significant is that market and how much of a share do they own, and really look at, regardless of whether Mr. Kiani's technology is the same or better--I think no one has said it is worse in terms of delivering or serving a clinical need--I think it is very important to look at the context of how big is Nellcor-Tyco's position and what are their total fees that they have been paying over the years to Premier and Novation. It is a very important fact that needs to be looked at. I would contrast that, if you also wanted to investigate the situation with the given technology that was also highlighted, that in that particular situation, there is no significant incumbent that is being threatened by the entrance of that new technology. In fact, I would even ask you to look at what the true market potential is for that product. Where are the clinicians out there crying out for that technology to solve an unmet clinical need? I do not think you are going to find nearly the outcry or the market potential that you will see that Nellcor's sensors currently enjoy in the U.S. market. Chairman Kohl. OK. Mr. Detlor. Mr. Detlor. Yes. One of the things that several parties have said here, and it is one of the things that is a challenge to a GPO in general, the first thing is that incumbent clinicians in the sense of their historical experience deal with adult products. The products in this pulse oximetry were not, to Dr. Goldstein's conversation, were not originally focused nor did they have the sensitivity or the capability to deal with the neonatal. So you have got a segmented market that has developed in the pulse oximetry issue. So the demands of what was used in an adult marketplace, there was very little product available that had any sense of accuracy in the neonatal arena. Masimo's product bridges that type of issue, the change in technology. So if you go and survey in committees, which we used to spend months and hours with, what you would normally get out of a committee's feedback, unless they are focused solely on new technology, is their historical experience with the existing market incumbents, their satisfaction, the shortcomings, the things they like, et cetera. It takes an extremely expensive proposition for a start-up company to put in a sales force that is going to equal what a Nellcor has established over decades, so to develop the same clinician exposure to new technology, which means somebody as a clinician has to stop what they are doing in patient care and spend a certain amount of time with new technology, it is a very difficult task in today's health care environment. So all things being equal, from a process perspective, it does not surprise me that you wind up with these types of scenarios. People who sit on committees donate their time, et cetera. So many days out of a given year is all they can put in, at best. A good portion of that is going to be the historical experience, not the issue on future technology. They have not seen a salesperson. The companies do not have the kind of resources to make that type of intro and, therefore, it is very hard to have that be a 50/50 proposition, an equal footing, and I think you heard Dr. Goldstein kind of refer to that. The changes that are going to have to take place is the fact that in the breakout, if there is a neonatal niche for this technology, which has an undefined market--who knows the size of it, I think that is still one of the issues in the marketplace--then that has to be treated separately than the issue of what we do with adult pulse oximetry. Right now, it is lumped into one contract, and historically, the GPOs would do that, not because they meant to do any harm to anybody, but because of the commission input they have had historically, based on what they have used over years in the past. It has a tendency to favor the incumbent manufacturers. It is a process adjustment that has to take place. It is an issue that if we are going to look at more and more future technology, everyone has to guard against, the management team that chairs those committees of clinicians, et cetera, has to constantly challenge them not to take the shortcut, not to talk about what they have historically done, but take a look at what is new and current on the marketplace. It is not the clinicians are not willing, but they are also competing for their own day- to-day jobs and time and what they can give to the GPO. So, hopefully, out of this process, maybe both GPOs, and I have heard the comments and the commitments, which is understandable, you know, you have to go back and reengineer your processes to make sure these things do not happen in the future as you move forward. Chairman Kohl. All right. Dr. Goldstein, do you want to make a comment? Dr. Goldstein. Thank you. I certain can appreciate cost and cost savings incentives and I understand what GPOs are all about and I can appreciate efforts involved to save money, but I would really at this point like to let some of the clinical studies talk. If you would not mind, I would like to bring out some of the placards that we have prepared. This first one shows a study that was done in an NICU looking at false alarms, missed true events, that is where the saturation, the amount of oxygen in the blood went down and the oximeter did not appreciate it, and measurement failures of the oximeter. As I mentioned, this took place in a neonatal intensive care unit, which is certainly my focus population. But you can see clearly the demonstrable improvement that Masimo SET has relative to its competition in these particular areas. The next example I would like to bring up specifically looks at one institution's experience with the Masimo SET oximeter with respect to retinopathy of prematurity, and in this, Dr. Sola, in a letter to Masimo, detailed his experiences with and without Masimo technology, looking at eye damage, that is, retinopathy of prematurity, as I alluded to in my statement, in this target presentation. As you can see, in the group that received pulse oximetry through Masimo SET, there was no evidence of retinopathy of prematurity, and this is a very significant finding. The next study I would like to refer to is one--the Barker study. This is a study that I performed, as well, in my institution, again looking at Masimo SET, specifically with respect to heart rate variability and heart rate changes. In this, we found that at no point, more than 1 percent of the time, Masimo had problems with respect to heart rate variability tracking. Now, granted, this is in a target population, neonates, where you have a great deal of heart rate variability and, in general, in adults, you do not see as much. But again, it points out my focus, that the target population here is being ignored. Looking at the objective studies that have been done heretofore, notwithstanding studies that have been supported outright by grants from either Nellcor or Masimo, overwhelmingly, Masimo SET is superior to its competition. To that, I would like to kind of ask, I mean, in terms of talking to people who make these decisions to the GPOs, which of you have been in an NICU for more than an hour within the past 5 years? Ms. Barrett. I have. Dr. Goldstein. You have? Ms. Barrett. Yes. Dr. Goldstein. Have either of you been in the NICU for more than an hour within the past 5 years? Mr. McKenna. The clinicians that make our decisions certainly have. Dr. Goldstein. Personally, I am asking if you have been in the NICU for more than an hour in the past 5 years. Mr. McKenna. No, I have not. Dr. Goldstein. You at the end, as well? Mr. Norling. I have not. Dr. Goldstein. OK. This is an important question, because in the interest of looking at cost and cost containment, we have to ask the question, what is the cost of a dead baby? What is the cost of a baby who has gone blind from retinopathy of prematurity? How do you explain this? What do you say to the parents in defense of this action? After all, we do have these overwhelming studies. Ms. Barrett. Could I take the opportunity here to make an observation and ask a question to capitalize on your expertise in the field. One is that the studies that I just now saw before us were published, I think, in the peer reviewed literature either late 2001 or one said 2002. So what we are aiming to do on many of the councils that I am involved with is look at evidence-based decision making, and in that, our best way of doing that is looking to the peer-reviewed literature database, which admittedly it takes a long time for the studies to work their way through, peer-reviewed studies, but we do try to have that guide us wherever that is possible and where we can. If I am not mistaken, the studies that are presented here may not have been available in a peer-reviewed manner at the time that this particular decision was made. I was not on that council. The other question that I have has to do with the fact that we were trying to relook at--many of your studies talk about a neonatal patient population. We also, in reconsidering this technology, wanted to see, was it applicable in adult population for the reasons that I am sure you are aware of. In hospitals, we do our best to standardize out of patient safety, because we have a cross-training that goes on for many of our physicians as well as our therapists, and having one standardized system they can use can become a patient safety issue. So my question is, to what extent do you think this technology is applicable to the adult ICUs, where it was also recently reconsidered by our adult therapists in that regard? Dr. Goldstein. With respect to the adult ICUs? Ms. Barrett. Yes. Dr. Goldstein. Again, I am a neonatologist and I do not profess to practice adult medicine. I am addressing a segment of the population that is often ignored and often not, I guess you could say, recognized in terms of the significance that newer technologies bring to care of these individual patients. Mr. Kiani. Senator Kohl, if I could say something, although as the CEO of Masimo and the person who founded it, I am enjoying all this conversation about Masimo pulse oximetry, how it is better, this is not what this meeting is about, of course. We have a systematic problem where large companies like Tyco-Nellcor have figured out how to use the, excuse the expression, almighty dollar to get large GPOs like Premier and Novation to exclude their competition. That is the problem, and we are just one example. There are adult examples right in the back of your hospitals you guys usually go to, unfortunately, where patients are being saved because of our technology and other stuff did not work, but that is not what it is about. I hope that there can be changes by the two groups sitting down and solving it, but I have to say that this is going to cause delay and delay means harm to patients and there needs to be something quick. It is not just about Masimo and this situation. Chairman Kohl. As you know, what we have concluded here this afternoon is that we are going to have an immediate forum composed of these two companies plus people like yourselves and we are going to get together on opening up this system, if we can, on eliminating all conflicts of interest, if we can, on trying to eliminate, if it is true, as you are suggesting, companies buying market share. They deny it, but if it is there, they are prepared to work on that problem, and getting this done in three months and reporting back in a public manner as to what we accomplish. So this, I hope, is not a hearing which, as so often on Capitol Hill hearings, there are hearings and then they vanish into history. I am very hopeful that this hearing will result in something that is a new and improved GPO system, and I do not find the principals who are here today, the two major principals in the industry, unwilling to engage in that process to see what improvements can be made. Mr. Norling. Senator, can I speak to the question you asked, as I believe it has not been answered yet. You were speaking about sole-source contracts, and I do have some data for you that might be useful. Chairman Kohl. All right. Mr. Norling. I would also like to, if I could, speak to a few of the other points that have been raised. Specifically, I think I mentioned earlier that Premier has contracts with about 450 different manufacturers and a total of 750 contracts. Of them, 377 are what you would call clinical. They essentially relate to products where there are a clinical use and, in effect, where physicians may have various degrees of preference. I think the issues we are talking about here are specifically in areas of high physician preference, where you do not have a commodity, in effect, you have got something where there are some of the agreements that, frankly, have surfaced here. So I think it is important to get at this issue, and I think Mr. Detlor, in some ways, was trying to get at that also, this issue of high clinical preference and what is to be done. Premier's data is as follows. Of 377 clinical contracts, we have 20 sole-source contracts. I can tell you that as we have looked at this process and as we have come to think about it more fully, and frankly, as the terms of some of our longer- term contracts have now reached the expiration dates, our conclusion is that in some of these areas, the idea of sole- source contracts in high clinical preference areas do not make a lot of sense. So in terms of a practice going forward from Premier, I expect what you will see in these areas is as existing in-force contracts reach their expiration date, and prior to that, as we begin to renegotiate them, and even prior to that, as successful applications of our breakthrough technology clause are pursued, what you are going to see is a movement away from any sole source in high clinical preference to dual source or, in some cases, not even a commitment target of any kind but a preferred contract. So that is a leaning in a direction that I think makes sense and is a good solid learning here. I would make a couple of points, and just for factual accuracy, Premier's Nellcor contract expires in December of 2004. I do not believe that is 7 years from now, nor was it 7 years from the time that was quoted. Premier's administrative fee with regard to this is 3 percent, no more. Very frankly, since there is some inference of decision making based on fees, we get greater administrative fees, because I do not believe the Nellcor 3 percent fee would change, if we contracted with Masimo, and if product flowed through that contract, we would actually get more administrative fees than we do now, and that is just a true economic fact of how this all works. Specific to the comment of being threatened by Premier members, I, frankly, have no knowledge of that. I have had no reports of that. If that were possibly true, I would agree that it was totally inappropriate. I seriously question whether it is true, but I will tell you that if, indeed, there is any inference of that, it would be totally inappropriate. I would also like to deal with this issue of the inference that Premier delayed the process for 2 years, and if I can, I would like to share with you a time line as I understand it. I have told you again, and I would acknowledge, Senator, that I have not been in a neonatal intensive care unit since I left active practicing as a hospital administrator about four-and-a- half years ago, but I used to spend quite a bit of time prior to that. The time line, as I understand it, is this. In 1999, Masimo approached Premier and our technology assessment group with regard to the technology that they had in place. As it has been explained to me, and again, this is secondary, but again, I think it is accurate, is that what they had then was an algorithm, a calculation, if you will, and the related software. They did not have a stand-alone product at that time. Our technology assessment group said that this was an exciting looking technology and actually encouraged them to work with other manufacturers who have stand-alone products and encourage them to make that technology available to them, and it sounds like Masimo has been very successful in doing that, not with Nellcor, but certainly with others. As regards the time frame, that was the interaction with our technology assessment group. In January 2000, Premier received and was made aware of the Nellcor 395 pulse oximeter and contracted in January 2000 for that item. As I said, the contract goes with a term through 2004. In March 2000, Nellcor approached Premier, indicating that they would--excuse me, Masimo approached Premier, indicating that they did have a product, a stand-alone product that they intended to bring to the market and data from Masimo suggests that product was first commercially available in August 2000. So in March 2000, we began the technology breakthrough process and the initial panel review suggested that this was worth further look, which is obviously you have to sort through all these requests to get to the absolute answer. We did bring together a panel, and at that time, based on the data that was available to our group and based on the comparison to the existing contract, namely the Nellcor 395, Premier made the distinction that this was not a significant breakthrough. Now, that does not mean that this is not a great product. I am sure it is. It does not mean that it is not particularly relevant in neonatology. Certainly, an expert here has suggested that it is. Our belief is that our contract leaves room for its use in that setting, and our other belief is, very frankly, that if, indeed, these additional studies suggest this kind of power as regards this particular product, particularly in neonatology, although I, indeed, want to explore its relevance elsewhere, that I would invite a resubmissions under the breakthrough technology program with that data, and I would tell Mr. Kiani that I personally will pay attention to this and make sure that process is expedited, because if, indeed, there is that kind of differential, there is no reason on earth that we would not want to have that kind of a product available for patients. Chairman Kohl. OK. We are going to wrap this up in a couple of minutes. I would like to just touch on two other areas. Is it true that some hospitals can go outside the GPO and get a better price on a particular commodity? Mr. Norling. That is a fairly complex question. The answer is, often, that is true. The question is whether they can do it consistently and sustained and create value. Chairman Kohl. So you have suppliers who will give a hospital of some size a better deal than they are giving you? Mr. Norling. In general, it would not be suppliers who work with us. It would be a situation where we would have a contract in place and a supplier who did not participate in that contract would come in and suggest that they would undercut the contract price. Chairman Kohl. So it---- Mr. Norling. That, frankly, is the marketplace at work in a very productive way. Chairman Kohl. It is not the same product? It is not the same commodity? Mr. Norling. It may be the same product, essentially, but it may be different manufacturers. Now, in some cases, you may get the same manufacturer doing some of that. It is pretty infrequent in our experience. But, in general, and specific to the GAO report, there are a number of other reports that I believe were much more thorough and comprehensive in what they cover, such as the recent Lewin study that was submitted as part of the Health Industry Purchasing Group Association submission, studies out of Arizona State University, a study by Mr. Muse that suggests pretty significant benefits from GPO contracting, to the tune of 10 percent. Senator, just to give you one good example of--again, I have been trying to stick to factual data here--we have a process we call portfolio analysis. We have a team of supply chain folks who go out into the hospitals and collaboratively with them ask them for a computer dump of everything they have bought for a year. Now, we do about 200 of these assessments every single year and we get a sense of, here is everything that ultimately was purchased. We go through them and particularly highlight purchases for items in areas where we have a contract but that were not purchased through our contracts. We look at those not to penalize but to suggest what the benefit might have been for using our contracts. When we itemize these routinely, and it is a very significant amount of money, we have found consistently over 2 years in more than 200 hospitals that they are leaving 9.5 percent on the table by using contracts, or by buying product outside of our contracts in areas where a comparable product is under contract. That tells me that the marketplace, in general out there, is certainly not as competitive as the group purchasing prices that we have in place, and it is a very large number of hospitals and it is a very large number of dollars. Chairman Kohl. You are estimating to the tune of maybe nine to ten percent? Mr. Norling. Yes, I am. Chairman Kohl. Again, I want to ask this question. Is it possible that some hospitals go outside of the GPO and buy the same product with the same label for less? Mr. Norling. My answer is sometimes. Chairman Kohl. So that can happen and probably does? How can it happen? Ms. Barrett. I could shed some light on that. You are speaking about price. What we are looking for is a contract that offers us not just price, but some other value and quality criteria. So it is quite possible that a vendor may come in and give us a very low price, and yet when we ask, will they provide some educational support, will they provide some conversion support, then the price alone is not the only feature. So it is, indeed, possible for them to undercut us on item-by-item pricing, but indeed, we as the individual department materiel services managers have to look at the whole package that they might be offering, where price alone may not be the only thing that we need to look at. Chairman Kohl. Well, I want it to be just raw in my question. I am going to take Johnson and Johnson band-aids, which I do not know if it is on your list, but maybe it is. Mr. Norling. Probably. Chairman Kohl. Is it possible for a hospital to get a better price on that item than is on your list? Mr. McKenna. I think it is possible. In our industry, there is a practice that we would call cherry-picking, maybe it is used in other industries, where, for the work that we do, and I think our numbers would be consistent with what Mr. Norling has pointed out for what is being left on the table, but if a member of one of our organizations chooses to leverage what we have already done and apply pressure on a supplier, there may be a supplier that will buckle and provide a better deal. But in the majority of instances, it is usually one of our members that perhaps would leverage our contract price and go with a company that did not get the contract award, which I think proves the point relative to it is an open system and the hospitals will make the decisions on their own. Chairman Kohl. OK, last question. In the past, we have been informed that GPOs return about 80 percent of their administrative fees to their member hospitals, keeping the remaining 20 percent to cover their expenses. Data that Premier has provided to our subcommittee shows that for Premier's most recent fiscal year, Premier retained 63 percent of the administrative fee, instead of what we had understood to be about 20. It retained about 63 percent of the fee it collected from medical equipment suppliers, which was over $213 million. So we understand that GPOs--we assume, we are presuming GPOs are supposed to be merely nonprofit buying agents for hospitals and that they are supposed to return to their member hospitals the fees paid by suppliers less expenses. So where did all that money go, Mr. Norling? Mr. Norling. Thank you for your question, Senator. I think that I will do my best to simplify this, because this has been sort of an ongoing dialogue, both with your staff and with the media. There are two sets of points that have been made. First of all, Premier is not just a GPO. We are an enterprise that is about a $500 million a year enterprise. About $300 million of that relates to GPO administrative fees. We are also in the business of comparative clinical data, which charges fees. We have a business of well over $100 million that repairs and maintains clinical equipment. We also have a business that helps underwrite excess layer professional liability, professional and general liability. So we have a series of other businesses that comprise Premier, the enterprise. That is the organization that I run. The piece of it called Premier Group Purchasing Services is actually run by this gentleman here, Howard Sanders, who is Senior Vice President of Premier for Group Purchasing. So to the degree that I may not have had all the exact clinical data, that is, in part, because I am running the larger aggregate enterprise. The numbers are as follows. We have returned, historically since Premier began, 80 percent of the net income of Premier back to our hospital owners. So 80 percent of the net income generated across all of those businesses cumulatively since Premier started has gone back to those hospitals. Now, if you will take the administrative fee portion of our revenues, which last year were about $300 million, and if you look at a combination of the dollars that we send back to all of our members, the dollars that go back to our hospitals and our affiliates and the incremental value of the equity, just the incremental value, not the in-place value, but the incremental value earned per year, we have returned last year 67.4 percent of the administrative fee dollar back to our members. So it is two different numbers. One is the percentage of net revenue in the aggregate and the other is a percentage of administrative fee revenue, which is a subset. I would be more than happy to document this clearly, to show you in our submissions to the committee exactly where those numbers come from, and those are, indeed, the numbers. Chairman Kohl. OK. Mr. McKenna? Mr. McKenna. Ours is a bit complex, but I will try to simplify it, Senator Kohl. We are owned by both VHA and UHC. After our expenses, everything that we have left goes to those organizations based on the way their members purchase, since they are set up as cooperatives. They, like as Mr. Norling has outlined, invest in other programs. There are benchmarking programs, clinical programs to assist local communities to reduce the risk of heart damage or stroke damage, and other services. After investing in those programs, which are board approved, they return--I am pretty sure this number is accurate for both alliances--100 percent of their net income. If you were to translate that into, going back to the GPO, I believe the numbers are, respectively, 32 cents and 40 cents on the dollar for both VHA and UHC, respectively. Chairman Kohl. OK. What I hope we have accomplished today is that we have seen on the part of the head of the two major GPOs a desire for a fairly extensive transparency with respect to your companies and how they function, a willingness to accept suggestions and comments from interested and sincere people who are here only to effect an improvement in the delivery of product and price and quality, and that we will get to work immediately on putting together this group of individuals, along with you all, who will work on achieving this end and expect to have a report with, hopefully, some positive results, inside of three months. If we can move forward on that, then I think we have achieved a lot and you will have demonstrated a sincere interest and willingness to work in the public interest, which is what this hearing was all about. So we thank you all for being here. You have made a real contribution. Before adjourning, I would like to insert in the record a number of documents. First, I would include statements from Senator Orrin Hatch and Senator Strom Thurmond. [The prepared statement of Senator Hatch follows:] Statement of Hon. Orrin Hatch, a U.S. Senator from the State of Utah Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I commend you and Senator DeWine for holding this hearing, as well as for your continuing efforts to get to the bottom of the important--and extremely complex--set of issues that we are addressing here today. I believe we need to examine how Group Purchasing Organizations--or ``GPOs''--affect the cost and quality of health care in America. Recent studies and media reports have called into question whether the GPO system has been effective in reducing costs without sacrificing the quality of products available to hospitals. However, GPOs, various academics, and certain industry participants continue to argue that GPOs offer high quality products at significant savings. I have received and considered numerous opinions from parties on both sides of the GPO debate, including health care specialists, academics, and industry participants both from my home State of Utah and around the nation. To say that there is widespread disagreement among the participants of this debate would be a considerable understatement. News sources, commentators, and industry analysts offer diverse opinions regarding whether the GPO system helps or harms hospitals, consumers, and competition. Well respected academics similarly disagree. Although I believe that the concerns raised by those who are critical of GPOs certainly warrant further analysis and consideration, I do not feel that we have sufficient information to reach any solid conclusions on the issues that have been raised. Despite the need for further investigation, I want to emphasize that--based on the information and analysis currently available--I have several serious concerns regarding certain actions and practices of specific GPOs, as well as the structure of the GPO system in general. Without going into detail, I would like to summarize some of these in the hope that we might address them as we go forward on this issue. I am deeply disturbed by allegations that GPOs may prevent superior technologies and products from being adopted by the hospitals they serve. These claims have arisen in several distinct sets of circumstances, all of which raise significant questions. I am concerned about recent press reports that senior executives have received or obtained stock or stock options from product suppliers, creating serious conflicts of interest that may have improperly affected GPOs' purchasing decisions. Similarly, reports that large GPOs have favored products produced or supplied by entities in which they have invested raise serious questions as to conflicts of interest. I am also concerned about certain practices that may limit competition among small medical device manufacturers, leading to decreased competition and innovation. Allegations that large suppliers have effectively ``bought'' access to GPOs warrant further investigation to ascertain how widespread such activities are. Similarly worrisome are assertions that the products of favored suppliers are included in ``bundled'' or ``sole source'' contracts that create strong disincentives for hospitals to purchase competing products, effectively shutting smaller competitors out of the market. Finally, I note that many--perhaps even most--of the alleged harms and abuses raised by GPO critics have pertained disproportionately to the nation's two largest GPOs: Novation and Premier. The market shares of these two ``super GPOs'' dwarf those of the next eight largest GPOs. In fact, excluding Premier, Novation's estimated market share is roughly equal to the combined market shares of its four largest competitors. With the obvious exception of Novation, Premier's market share is almost three times that of its largest competitor. The enormous relative purchasing power of these two ``super GPOs''-- especially when coupled with allegations that this power has been used anticompetitively--raises obvious concerns. At this point, although it is unclear whether and to what extent the market power possessed by Novation and Premier has enabled allegedly anticompetitive practices, this question warrants further consideration. I look forward to hearing from the witnesses testifying here today, and hope that they will address these important issues. I commend the members of this committee for their efforts to date, and hope that--in conjunction with the appropriate government agencies and with the help of industry participants--this committee will continue its attempt to get to the bottom of these important issues. [The prepared statement of Senator Thurmond follows:] Statement of Hon. Strom Thurmond, a U.S. Senator from the State of South Carolina Mr. Chairman: Thank you for holding this important hearing today on hospital group purchasing and its effects on patient health and medical innovation. In particular, this committee should carefully examine the role that Group Purchasing Organizations (GPOs) play in bringing medical products to market. GPOs deserve antitrust scrutiny for two significant reasons. First, the organizations themselves are the result of hospitals banding together in order to increase buying power. Second, GPOs have merged and consolidated the industry significantly. The result is that two large corporations, Premier and Novation, control purchasing for approximately 60 percent of the Nation's hospitals. With these two concerns in mind, we must determine whether the consumers of medical care, the patients, are being well-served by GPOs. The fundamental premise of a GPO is to allow hospitals to aggregate their purchases and thereby negotiate lower prices. GPOs are generally immune from antitrust scrutiny for an array of policy reasons. When hospitals band together, they are better able to counteract the significant market power of large manufacturers of medical supplies and equipment. Additionally, the lower prices procured by the hospitals enable them to maintain financial stability in the Medicare prospective payment system. This prospective payment system replaced fee for service plans and essentially resulted in caps on Medicare payments, limiting what the Federal Government would pay hospitals for medical services. In addition to the relaxed antitrust scrutiny, GPOs have another useful tool in procuring lower costs for hospitals. They are immune from anti-kickback laws. This allows the payments for services provided by the GPOs to be shifted from the hospitals, the buyers of the goods, to the manufacturers of the goods. Therefore, manufacturers of goods pay kickbacks, often called administrative fees, to the GPOs. Administrative fees are commonly 3 percent of the value of goods sold to the hospitals, and may be higher if disclosed in writing. These fees go the GPO itself, and portions are remitted to the hospitals. Due to this arrangement, hospitals realize lower costs. At first glance, the lower costs attributed to group purchasing power may appear to benefit patients. Indeed, group purchasing keeps prices low, and that is certainly desirable in the medical marketplace. However, a closer look at current policies reveals some disturbing consequences. Many smaller device manufacturers have voiced concerns that they cannot break into the marketplace due to the power of GPOs. For example, GPOs negotiate long term contracts, thereby making it more difficult to bring new and innovative products to market. Long-term contracts themselves would not generally be a cause for concern. Two business entities may enter into these contracts if they wish. However, due to the fact that hospitals have all joined together in the GPOs, large numbers of hospitals are committed to these long-term contracts. This scenario warrants antitrust scrutiny. Smaller manufacturers may also have a more difficult time paying the kickbacks, or administrative fees, required to sell their products to the GPOs. Furthermore, the anti-kickback exception invites the kind of abuse that anti-kickback laws were designed to stop. Larger manufacturers have an incentive to pay higher administrative fees in order to dissuade the GPOs from purchasing the products of smaller competitors. It is my hope that this committee will closely examine the antitrust immunity and anti-kickback exception that GPOs enjoy. We should not support policies that inhibit the abilities of smaller manufacturers to introduce innovative products into the marketplace. If patients are not benefiting from current practices, we should seek to implement reforms that free the marketplace to function unhindered by anti-competitive practices. Another concern associated with the GPO system is the consolidation of the industry. In many areas, one of the two dominant GPOs, Premier or Novation, serves all of the hospitals while the other is almost nonexistent. The result is a dominant buyer in the market, which has been referred to as a monopsony, or a buyer monopoly. For antitrust purposes, a monopsony may be just as troubling as a monopoly due to the distortions that it creates in the market. The buying power of the GPOs raises questions about the common practice of ``bundling'' in contracts with medical manufacturers. A bundled contract provides for numerous products to be purchased in one order, benefiting the seller, who can sell more products, and allowing the GPO to negotiate lower prices. While this practice may lower hospital costs, it may also have the effect of keeping other manufacturers out of the market. Because hospitals must usually purchase a high percentage of their products through the GPO to take advantage of discounts, there is less of an incentive for hospitals to bypass the GPOs and negotiate with the manufacturers directly. Additionally, recent media reports have indicated that Premier invested in medical supplier companies, and then made contracts with them to provide supplies to Premier hospitals. I am greatly concerned about these allegations, and this committee should thoroughly study these potential conflicts of interest. If Premier has engaged in such activity, it has leveraged its buyer monopoly to procure goods from a company in which it has an interest, effectively blocking out legitimate competitors. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate your work on this matter, and I hope that we will learn more today about the role of GPOs in the health care industry. While GPOs have almost certainly led to decreased costs for hospitals, we should carefully examine whether patients benefit from the current system of group purchasing. If innovative and crucial technology is not reaching our Nation's hospitals, we should consider reforming current practices. We should ask whether GPO immunity from general principles of antitrust law and anti-kickback law best serves those in need of medical care. I hope that our witnesses will address these important questions, and I look forward to hearing from them today. Chairman Kohl. I would like to insert the GAO report that has been referred to several times during this hearing, entitled ``Group Purchasing Organizations: Pilot Study Suggests Large Buying Groups Do Not Always Offer Hospitals Lower Prices.'' I would also like to insert a number of statements that have been submitted for the record. These are from Thomas J. Shaw, President and CEO of Retractable Technologies, Inc.; Larry Holden, President, Medical Device Manufacturers Association; Thomas V. Brown, Executive Vice President of Biotronik; Robert Betz, President and CEO of the Health Industry Group Purchasing Association; Paul Hazen, President and CEO of the National Cooperative Business Association; Einer Elhauge, Professor of Law at Harvard Law School; Jeffrey C. Lerner, President and Chief Executive Officer of ECRI; Dr. Augusto Sola, Professor of Pediatrics and Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Director, Division of Neonatal-Perinatal Medicine at Emory University School of Medicine; Frederick M. Valerino, Jr., President, Pevco Systems International, Inc.; and Julia Naunheim Hipps, a registered nurse from St. Louis, Missouri. This hearing is now adjourned. [Whereupon, at 5:00 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.] [Questions and Answers and Submissions for the record follow.] [Additional material is being retained in the Committee files.] [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]