[House Hearing, 106 Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]



 
                 DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR AND RELATED
                    AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 2001

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                                HEARINGS

                                BEFORE A

                           SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

                       COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

                         HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                       ONE HUNDRED SIXTH CONGRESS
                             SECOND SESSION
                                ________
   SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR AND RELATED AGENCIES
                      RALPH REGULA, Ohio, Chairman
 JIM KOLBE, Arizona                  NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
 JOE SKEEN, New Mexico               JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
 CHARLES H. TAYLOR, North Carolina   JAMES P. MORAN, Virginia
 GEORGE R. NETHERCUTT, Jr.,          ROBERT E. ``BUD'' CRAMER, Jr., 
Washington                           Alabama
 ZACH WAMP, Tennessee                MAURICE D. HINCHEY, New York   
 JACK KINGSTON, Georgia
 JOHN E. PETERSON, Pennsylvania     
                       
 NOTE: Under Committee Rules, Mr. Young, as Chairman of the Full 
Committee, and Mr. Obey, as Ranking Minority Member of the Full 
Committee, are authorized to sit as Members of all Subcommittees.
   Deborah Weatherly, Loretta Beaumont, Joel Kaplan, and Christopher 
                                 Topik,
                            Staff Assistants
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                                 PART 9
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 U.S. Forest Service..............................................    1
 Secretary of Energy..............................................  215
 Office of Fossil Energy..........................................  285
 Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.................  365
 Energy Information Administration................................  621

                              

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                        COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

                   C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida, Chairman

 RALPH REGULA, Ohio                  DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
 JERRY LEWIS, California             JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
 JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois        NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
 HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky             MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
 JOE SKEEN, New Mexico               JULIAN C. DIXON, California
 FRANK R. WOLF, Virginia             STENY H. HOYER, Maryland
 TOM DeLAY, Texas                    ALAN B. MOLLOHAN, West Virginia
 JIM KOLBE, Arizona                  MARCY KAPTUR, Ohio
 RON PACKARD, California             NANCY PELOSI, California
 SONNY CALLAHAN, Alabama             PETER J. VISCLOSKY, Indiana
 JAMES T. WALSH, New York            NITA M. LOWEY, New York
 CHARLES H. TAYLOR, North Carolina   JOSE E. SERRANO, New York
 DAVID L. HOBSON, Ohio               ROSA L. DeLAURO, Connecticut
 ERNEST J. ISTOOK, Jr., Oklahoma     JAMES P. MORAN, Virginia
 HENRY BONILLA, Texas                JOHN W. OLVER, Massachusetts
 JOE KNOLLENBERG, Michigan           ED PASTOR, Arizona
 DAN MILLER, Florida                 CARRIE P. MEEK, Florida
 JAY DICKEY, Arkansas                DAVID E. PRICE, North Carolina
 JACK KINGSTON, Georgia              MICHAEL P. FORBES, New York
 RODNEY P. FRELINGHUYSEN, New Jersey CHET EDWARDS, Texas
 ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi        ROBERT E. ``BUD'' CRAMER, Jr., 
 GEORGE R. NETHERCUTT, Jr.,          Alabama
Washington                           MAURICE D. HINCHEY, New York
 RANDY ``DUKE'' CUNNINGHAM,          LUCILLE ROYBAL-ALLARD, California
California                           SAM FARR, California
 TODD TIAHRT, Kansas                 JESSE L. JACKSON, Jr., Illinois
 ZACH WAMP, Tennessee                CAROLYN C. KILPATRICK, Michigan
 TOM LATHAM, Iowa                    ALLEN BOYD, Florida               
 ANNE M. NORTHUP, Kentucky
 ROBERT B. ADERHOLT, Alabama
 JO ANN EMERSON, Missouri
 JOHN E. SUNUNU, New Hampshire
 KAY GRANGER, Texas
 JOHN E. PETERSON, Pennsylvania
 VIRGIL H. GOODE, Jr., Virginia     

                 James W. Dyer, Clerk and Staff Director

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                           W I T N E S S E S

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Bostrom, C.O.....................................................   367
Dombeck, Mike....................................................     3
Gee, R.W.......................................................217, 287
Goerl, Vincette..................................................     3
Hakes, J.E.....................................................217, 623
Kripowicz, Robert..............................................217, 287
Lyons, James.....................................................     3
Neves, Carole....................................................   367
Newman, Thomas...................................................   367
Phillips, Randle.................................................     3
Reicher, Dan...................................................217, 367
Richardson, Hon. Bill............................................   217
Telson, M.L......................................................   217

 
                               I N D E X

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                             Forest Service

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Alabama Forest Products..........................................    32
Allegheny National Forest........................................    38
Authorizing Environment..........................................31, 38
Cultural Studies.................................................    49
Deferred Maintenance Backlog.....................................    40
Ethnographic Studies.............................................    48
Fiscal Accountability............................................    37
Forest Inventory and Analysis....................................    33
Forest Legacy....................................................    37
Initial Allocations..........................................32, 36, 39
Initiatives......................................................    32
Interior Columbia Basin Ecosystem Management Project.............    20
Land Acquisition.................................................    36
Lands Legacy Initiative..........................................    40
Mount Graham.....................................................    48
Opening Remarks:
    Mr. Dombeck..................................................     8
    Mr. Lyons....................................................    20
    Mr. Nethercutt...............................................    30
    Mr. Regula...................................................     3
Planning Regulations.............................................    32
President's Forest Plan for the Pacific Northwest................  3, 5
Questions for the Record:
    From Mr. Dicks...............................................   175
    From Mr. Kolbe...............................................   187
    From Mr. Nethercutt..........................................   209
    From Mr. Obey................................................   180
    From Mr. Skeen...............................................   191
    From Mr. Taylor..............................................   203
Radical Environmentalists........................................    36
Research and Development.........................................    40
Roads in Pacific Northwest.......................................    41
Roads Policy.....................................................    33
Rural America....................................................    39
Sabino Canyon....................................................    46
Shooting Range...................................................    47
Southern Pine Beetle.............................................    34
Students at the Hearing..........................................     7
Survey and Manage................................................  4, 6
Timber Salvage...................................................    37
Watershed Analysis...............................................    46

               Department of Energy--Secretary of Energy

Alaska Arctic Slope Oil Exploration..............................   256
Arctic National Wildlife Refuge......................243, 244, 253, 257
Bioenergy Bioproducts Initiative.................................   244
Biography of Secretary Richardson..............................232, 233
Carbon Control Through Separation and Sequestration Initiative...   223
Clean Coal Technology............................................   229
Coal and Power Systems...........................................   227
Department of Energy Labs........................................   256
Dependence on Foreign Oil........................................   255
Dismantle of Nuclear Weapons.....................................   239
Economic Regulation..............................................   231
Elk Hills School Lands Fund......................................   230
Energy Policy..................................................217, 234
Energy Grid Initiative...........................................   222
Energy Conservation..............................................   219
Energy Efficiency..............................................248, 251
Energy Efficiency Management Improvements........................   226
Energy Information Administration..............................220, 230
Enhanced Ultra Clean Transportation Fuel Cells...................   224
Environmental Protection Agency..................................   235
Federal Energy Management Program................................   226
Federal Energy Management Program................................   220
Fiscal Year 2001 Energy Initiatives..............................   222
Fossil Energy....................................................   218
Fossil Energy Research and Development...........................   227
FY 2001 Budget Request.........................................218, 225
Improved Efficiency for Buildings Technologies...................   226
Industrial Energy Technologies...................................   226
International Clean Energy Initiative............................   222
National Energy Technology Laboratory............................   230
Natural Gas......................................................   219
Natural Gas Technologies.........................................   228
Naval Petroleum Reserves and Oil Shales..........................   229
Opening Remarks of Secretary Richardson..........................   217
Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries..................236, 238
Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles.....................   220
Peak of Gasoline Prices..........................................   255
Petroleum........................................................   228
Prediction of Oil Costs..........................................   245
Prepared Statement of Secretary Richardson.......................   222
Refinery Capabilities............................................   237
Reservoir Class Revisit..........................................   219
State Matching Funds for Weatherization..........................   250
Strategic Petroleum Reserve..........................229, 236, 244, 253
Transportation Economies for the 21st Century....................   225
Weatherization...................................................   220
Additional Committee Questions:
    Contaminated Metals..........................................   271
    Disparity of Funding Between Fossil and Conservation Programs   266
    Enhanced Ultra Clean Fuels Initiative........................   263
    Hold on Congressionally Earmarked Projects...................   261
    International Clean Energy Initiative........................   268
    National Energy Technology Laboratory........................   264
    Oil Valuation Regulations....................................   270
    Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles.................   261
Questions Submitted by Congressman Kingston:
    Energy Efficiency Standards..................................   283
    Fuel Prices..................................................   275
    Weatherization Assistance....................................   282
    Wind Power...................................................   280
Questions Submitted by Congressman Nethercutt:
    Hanford......................................................   273
    PBA Subscription.............................................   272

             Department of Energy--Office of Fossil Energy

Biography of Mr. Robert Gee......................................   307
Carbon Sequestration...........................................294, 317
Clean Coal Technology.....................................306, 319, 321
Coal and Power Systems...........................................   292
Current Oil Situation............................................   324
Domestic Oil Production........................................316, 327
Domestic Oil Supply..............................................   312
Energy Research Efforts..........................................   311
Energy Use.......................................................   314
Environmental Impact of Oil and Gas Exploration..................   314
Enviornmental Protection Agency..................................   331
Extramural Grants................................................   323
Fissile Energy Budget in Detail..................................   291
Fuel Cells.......................................................   335
Hydrogen Research and Development................................   325
International Programs...........................................   309
International Projects...........................................   331
Methane Hydrates.................................................   300
National Laboratories............................................   335
Natural Gas Versus Coal..........................................   330
Natural Gas....................................................288, 298
Naval Petroleum and Oil Shales Reserves........................289, 305
Oil Prices.......................................................   310
Oil Use..........................................................   315
Oil Sonification.................................................   316
Oil Well Abandonment.............................................   317
Opening Remarks of Mr. Robert Gee................................   287
Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles.....................   312
Petroleum Research...............................................   323
Prepared Statement of Mr. Gee....................................   290
Sequestration Research and Development...........................   309
Strategic Petroleum Reserve..........................289, 304, 310, 325
Tomorrow's Gas Turbines..........................................   296
Tomorrow's Flue Cells............................................   297
Ultra Clean Fuels Initiative...................................288, 301
Vision 21.................................................288, 292, 322
Additional Committee Questions:
    Centers of Excellence........................................   348
    Central Systems..............................................   349
    Clean Coal Technology........................................   360
    Coal Mine Methane............................................   357
    Cooperative Research and Development.........................   359
    Gasification Systems Technology..............................   351
    High Performance Power Systems...............................   350
    Multi-Layer Ceramic Flue Cells...............................   353
    Natural Gas..................................................   354
    Naval Petroleum and Oil Shale Reserves.......................   362
    Offsets for Fossil Energy Research...........................   359
    Oil Technology...............................................   337
    PM 2.5 Monitoring and Control................................   358
    Program Direction............................................   359
    Sequestration Research.......................................   347
    Steelmaking Feedstock........................................   346
    Strategic Petroleum Reserve..................................   344
    Ultra Clean Fuels Initiative.................................   345

  Department of Energy--Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewal Energy

A Review of Management in the Office of Energy Efficiency and 
  Renewal Energy.................................................   381
Accountability...................................................   477
Advances in Alternative Fulled Buses.............................   502
Agriculture Vision...............................................   523
Alternative Fuels................................................   520
Automobile Industry Improvements.................................   495
Biography of Mr. Dan Reicher.....................................   516
Budget Development...............................................   368
Coordination of Energy Efficiency Sectors........................   501
Corporate Crosscutting Programs..................................   513
Cost Reporting...................................................   369
Cost Sharing.....................................................   478
Current Energy Situation.........................................   502
Discontinued Programs............................................   497
Distributed Energy Resources.....................................   496
Employee and Contractor Accountability...........................   497
Energy Efficiency Management Reforms.............................   480
Ethanol Storage in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve...............   520
Ethanol in the SPRO..............................................   520
Federal Energy Management Program................................   512
Fuel Cell Vehicles...............................................   539
Fuel Cell Research...............................................   538
FY 2001 Budget Request.........................................495, 507
FY 2001 Funding..................................................   517
Implementaton of NAPA Recommendations............................   522
Industry Associations............................................   474
Infrastructure for Alternative Fuels.............................   537
Multi-Year Funds.................................................   476
NAPA Findings..................................................367, 381
NAPA Report......................................................   381
Natural Gas Used In Vehicles.....................................   496
Northwest Alliance for Transportation Technologies...............   517
Office of Transportation Technologies............................   508
Office of Industrial Technologies................................   509
Office of building Technology, State and Community Programs......   510
Opening Remarks of Mr. Carl O. Bostrom...........................   367
Opening Remarks of Mr. Dan Reacher...............................   480
Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles.....................   499
Performance Measures.............................................   371
Prepared Statement of Mr. Carl O. Bostrom........................   373
Prepared Statement of Mr. Dan Reacher, FY 2001 Budget Request....   504
Prepared Statement of Mr. Dan Reacher, NAPA Review...............   484
Program Fragmentation.....................................368, 472, 475
Program and Project Management...................................   369
Relationship of Industry Partners................................   498
Responses to NAPA Concerns.......................................   481
Setting Priorities...............................................   473
Unobligated Balances.............................................   370
Additional Committee Questions:
    Buildings Program............................................   548
    Clean Cities.................................................   595
    Cooperative Research with States.............................   542
    Energy Efficiency Science Initiative.........................   540
    Heavy Vehicles...............................................   592
    Hybrid Lighting..............................................   555
    Industry Research Program....................................   579
    Measures of Residential Energy Consumption and Their 
      Relationships to DOE Policy................................   563
    Measuring Energy Consumption--Source v. Site.................   561
    National Laboratory Funding..................................   610
    National Energy Technology Laboratory........................   598
    Natural Gas Vehicle Research and Development.................   590
    Need for Improved Financial Management.......................   545
    Overview of the Budget Request...............................   540
    Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles.................   591
    Scientific Retention and Recruitment Initiative..............   597
    State Grant Funding with Program Elements....................   602
    Strategic Plan for Transportation Programs...................   593
    Transportation Research......................................   586
    Weatherization and State Grants..............................   556
Questions Submitted by Congressman Regula:
    Energy Efficiency and Renewal Energy.........................   614
Questions Submitted by Congressman Wamp:
    Energy Conservation's Financial Management and Contracting...   616
    Fiscal Year 2001 Budget......................................   617

        Department of Energy--Energy Information Administration

Biography of Mr. Jay E. Hakes....................................   637
Capital Investment in Electricity................................   641
Changes in Coal, Nuclear, Electricity and Alternative Fuels 
  Funding........................................................   650
Changes in CNEAF Funding.........................................   649
EIA Budget Decreases...........................................639, 647
EIA Program Functions............................................   625
Energy Data Systems..............................................   640
Energy Information Systems Enhancements..........................   648
Fuel Prices......................................................   644
FY 2001 Budget Request.........................................626, 640
Impact of OPEC Oil Production....................................   650
Lunberg Surveys..................................................   640
Maintaining EIA's Policy Neural Status...........................   649
Natural Gas Data.................................................   641
Natural Gas Restructuring........................................   649
Natural Gas Use in the Northeast.................................   652
Natural Gas Fueled Vehicles......................................   652
Oil Production...................................................   638
Oil Exchange.....................................................   645
OPEC Production Quota............................................   646
Performance Indicators...........................................   634
Prepared Statement of Mr. Jay E. Hakes...........................   624
Program Improvements.............................................   632
Program Accomplishments..........................................   629
State Oil and Propane Program....................................   647
The Importance of Energy Information.............................   624
Additional Committee Questions:
    Current Oil Prices...........................................   661
    Energy Use...................................................   658
    Other Options................................................   669
    Overview of the Budget Request...............................   654
    Strategic Petroleum Reserve..................................   668
Questions Submitted by Congressman Moran:
    Energy Use...................................................   670